The Best Shape of My Life Effect, or, the nearest alternate universe to our own is one in which David Freese can drive.
by DanUpBaby on Feb 15, 2010 6:04 AM EST
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PrintSt. Louis Post-Dispatch—February 26, 2009
CARDS PROSPECT DAVID FREESE NEARLY GETS INTO CAR ACCIDENT
"I've never felt better after nearly getting into a car accident," the third baseman told reporters. "That was close."
Cardinals prospect David Freese, widely expected to start at third base following Troy Glaus's uncertain bout with Troy Glaus's Disease, was nearly involved in a single-car accident sometime last month.
"It was no big deal," said Freese, in a phone interview about the near-miss granted exclusively to the Post-Dispatch. "I was just really excited about getting the chance to play third base for the Cardinals and I almost totaled my car. That would have been pretty terrible, right? Last week I almost shut my hand in a car door, too. And a month ago—oh, this was terrible—I had one of those things where, like, you slip on the ice, and you almost fall, and then you look around to see if anybody saw it, but nobody did, so you just walk around like nothing happened."
Cardinals manager Tony La Russa could not be reached for comment. In a prepared statement, General Manager John Mozeliak asked if this was really news, or was it just February again.
GLAUS: "I SHOULD START THROWING IN A FEW DAYS"
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St. Louis Post Dispatch—March 25, 2009
CARDINAL NATION POLL: WE LIKE THIS THURSTON KID
"This kid, he plays the right way," said your uncle, in a prepared statement. "Not like these other guys."
In a phone poll of St. Louis Cardinals fans aged 30-65 conducted on Tuesday, 88% of prospective t-shirt jersey buyers approved of surprise utilityman Joe Thurston's grit, hustle, and tenacity. An astonishing 35% of respondents already favor naming Thurston a "true Cardinal", although 8% abstained from voting until they saw what he did after being issued a walk or grounding out to the shortstop.
"It feels good," said Thurston, a long-time minor leaguer who hit .316 with AAA Pawtucket in 2008. "I just try to play the game the right way and make things happen, and I can't wait to do that in St. Louis. You know, if I'm not pushed too far, or relied on too frequently, I think I can do some positive things for this club. Of course, if something else should happen, all bets are off."
FREESE: "YEAH, I SHOULD BASICALLY BE AVERAGE."
The games haven't even been played yet, but in one Maryland basement baseball sabermetrician David Freese's 2009 stats are already common knowledge: .265, with 18 home runs and 75 RBI.
Baseball "sabermetrician" Dan Szymborski's ZiPS projections for the Cardinals, released recently on a baseball website with a picture of a monkey on it, have similar lines for every player of note on the 40-man roster, but for David Freese things stopped after he found himself right next to the "league average" line for third basemen.
"Yeah, I should basically be average," said David Freese, recently named the starting third baseman in a Jupiter, Fla., press conference. "I don't think Cardinals fans should expect much else. But when you think about it, average is pretty good. I mean, imagine how the guy who replaces the average guy would do—I'd say you'd lose... maybe two games in the deal."
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St. Louis Post-Dispatch—June 30, 2009
CARDINALS' JUNE SWOON WARMED BY DEEP FREESE
The Cardinals' lineup may have cooled off as summer heated up, but the cold snap is no problem for third baseman David Freese, who's hit .260 with a few home runs and some doubles for a third consecutive month since being installed as the starter following a brief spring skirmish with Joe Thurston and Brian Barden.
With the outfield in disarray and shortstop a mess, the Cardinals' stability at the infield corners has become a theme in trade talks. Cardinals GM John Mozeliak has found the current market to be a tough fit. "[Tony La Russa] has sent me a list of possible lineups in which he could fit Mark DeRosa, but right now we're standing pat."
In a prepared statement, Tony La Russa commented that it was at least fifteen lineups, and you wouldn't believe how cool they were.
YOUR UNCLE: "DID YOU SEE THE WAY THURSTON RAN TO FIRST AFTER THAT WALK?"
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St. Louis Post-Dispatch—July 24, 2009
OUT OF LEFT FIELD: MATT HOLLIDAY IS A CARDINAL
After a brief flirtation with St. Louis's favorite supersub, Joe Thurston, the Cardinals have settled on their new left fielder, trading top prospect Brett Wallace and others for outfielder Matt Holliday.
"We felt like this was important for timeline reasons," said Cardinals GM John Mozeliak, in what was described as an intentionally cryptic prepared statement.
TROY GLAUS: "OH, GOD, I FORGOT TO START THROWING."
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St. Louis Post-Dispatch—October 4, 2009
CARDINALS ENTER PLAYOFFS HUNGRY AT 94-68
Miss home field advantage by one game, in a coincidence fraught with portent.
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St. Louis Post-Dispatch—October 11, 2009
CARDINALS: THAT WAS OVER QUICK
"They're fine, thanks for asking," Matt Holliday says in prepared statement.
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Viva El Birdos—February 15, 2010
THE BEST SHAPE OF MY LIFE EFFECT
I was happy to see Jaime Garcia get the Goold treatment in today's Post-Dispatch, even though so much of the good news—he's a new pitcher, his mechanics are repeatable, he's added a cutter—is traditional February material, difficult to corroborate in the sea of exciting new careers that are about to take shape and then recede into the long season by April 15. I like Garcia, and I always have, and with Shelby Miller so far away he's the great hope of this weak system.
But I'm trying better, this year, to remind myself about how far February is from October, and how difficult it is to predict what will make the difference in the Cardinals' 2010 narrative eight months in advance. Last January we didn't know Joe Thurston would start much of the season at third base; last June we didn't know that it wouldn't matter, finally, that he did at all.
So who knows what it means for the 2010 Cardinals that Jaime Garcia is particularly convincing as the driven youngster in February. We have the projections, and these stories, and we can guess, but right now, with pitchers and catchers on the very edge of reporting, the main thing we can do is enjoy the early, quiet rhythms of the new baseball season. Jaime Garcia's "no longer just out there throwing." He's not in pain anymore. I can only hope it ends up meaning something in the end, but for now it's still good news.
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Hope SPRINGS eternal
My troubles are behind me, I’m focusing on winning a starting job (Freese) I struggled with the long season last year, but I’ve put on muscle and am working on my diet to make it thorugh a long season (Colby). I’ve been pitching hurt since the fourth grade (Garcia). I’ll be better this year if Tony doesn’t try to make me the opening day closer (Motte). I miss Izzy, but I’m learning how to be a closer (Franklin), I’ve proven everything I have to prove in Memphis (Craig). I’ll do anything they ask me to stick with the big club even if that means moving to 2B (Jay). I’m wearing a cup at all times because youneverknow (Holliday), I can move my right arm again, who knows what kind of numbers I can put up with a fully functioning limb (Mang). My prospects are better than anyone thinks (Luhnow). Cards fans, we are actively pursuing several remaining free agents and have $7 million to spend (but won’t) (Mo)
Go Cards
Just win
by The Duke on Feb 15, 2010 6:54 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
ha
sounds about right
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Pitchers, Catchers, Ryan, and Freese
From Goold:
Set to also arrive in the next couple days are third baseman David Freese and shortstop Brendan Ryan. Injured players like Ryan are often required to report with the pitchers and catchers, and Ryan has been told by his agent that the Cardinals would like him to begin his rehab with their oversight as soon as possible. Freese is coming early to start his bid at being the every day third baseman. Both infielders figure to be in town by Tuesday.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Problem children.
It almost seems like the club wants the two of them under the club’s watch for as long as possible.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Hancock?
Or, did Wonder Brad have a drinking problem that I didn’t know about?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Kicking puppies and what not...
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
the whole animal abuse thing.
Yes I meant Hancock. And on a completely unrelated note I need some coffee.
I did used to confuse the two
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Feb 15, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
it's the doghouse
it’s okay. he has a bed there.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Feb 15, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
A bed??
They finally gave him the key and let him come and go as he pleases, didn’t they?
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
it's hanging around his neck?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Feb 15, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
among other things
i have this vision of tony tying brendan’s bat to his wrist before each at bat,
like a 2nd grader with his mittens.
- tom s.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Feb 15, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Seriously, why is Boog there already?
He isn’t playing. He should be resting his wrist. Proximity to a field will only lead to unhealthy temptations.
I don’t think he’s in that big of a doghouse. He may just be in the doghouse with Strauss, the likes of which could be easily demolished with a healthy fart.
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Feb 15, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
running joke
even when he does everything right, he’s in the doghouse
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yes
but I’m saying he shouldn’t be at camp yet. He should be far away from a baseball field until his wrist heals. He just got out of surgery six days ago and he’s already showing up to play?
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Feb 15, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
not showing up to play
the team wants to monitor/be in charge of his treatments
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Thanks. This makes sense
though I would’ve thought they could do that from StL.
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Feb 15, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
The quote I posted above
notes that the organization wants him rehabilitating with their staff, which is in Florida.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Lovely.
\returns to the corner
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Feb 15, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't even see what cardball had posted.
I understand your concern, though. Hopefully Ryan has better luck with his wrist than Cardinals past have had with shoulders.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
yeah, i think basically they just want to lock him down
lest he get bored and go skateboarding or something
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Not the only two.
Per the P-D, pparently all of the youngsters are reporting for what amounts to orientation…
Among the players who arrived for today’s workouts were Skip Schumaker, Yadier Molina, Allen Craig, Daryl Jones, Daniel Descalso and, making his first appearance of camp, ace Chris Carpenter. Carpenter played catch today and plans to throw off the mound tomorrow.
Obviously, Yadi, being a catcher, and Carp, being a pitcher, should be in Jupter this early for Pitchers & Catchers.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
and to break in the youngsters?
those lucky b*s on 101 are at ST. i should listen for interviews but my envy is too great.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Feb 15, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
for real, Tony frowns on hazing
hence, no drag
just pink backpacks
(Yadi and Carp are the hazing)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
funny that tony frowns on drag
i’ve always imagined that’s how he unwinds after games
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
it's called ballet
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
but why the tutu?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he has quite the t-shirt collection
I like the Citi Field interview one
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Brilliant.
I want to know the backstory behind the PD seeking and obtaining an exclusive to the non-story of Freese almost getting into a serious accent.
Did Freese make the offer? Or did the PD hunt out the story from a lack of publishable material?
Sounds like typical Spring Training headlines.
I am not sure what to make of this comment...
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Feb 15, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
[reads this with a British accent]
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Feb 15, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
STOP THAT AT ONCE
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Feb 15, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
...
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Feb 15, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X6VoFBCE9k
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Feb 15, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
what?
look at the title and the dates
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Feb 15, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
I get it.
My point was: under what circumstances would a paper think that an almost-accident was newsworthy? In real life.
Imagine reading: 183 Almost Killed Today During Non-Eventful Flight Take-Off.
If the Freese headline were the industry standard, the PD would have to run several hundred such stories every week.
It was a lame attempt at humor on my part. Made extra lame by the fact that it was already understood within the premise of DanUp’s post.
by arch support on Feb 16, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
this post made me want to make up a German term for what I am experiencing
well done, DanUp.
In other news, WWII is about to muck up baseball on Aldebaran. No spoiling!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
aldebaran?
I feel a great disturbance in the force. Like 50,000 fans cheering a easy flyball to left field, then suddenly silenced.
"It doesn't have to be terribly prolific! Just so that it isn't childish and silly." She reflected. "I prefer stories about squalor." J.D.S.
by tom s. on Feb 15, 2010 3:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
Must...rec...Star Wars reference.
My initial thought on seeing Aldebaran was Alderaan also
Is it Spring yet?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Feb 15, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Mulder Retiring
Passing along the report of a Milwaukee television station, MLBTR asks if the pitcher the Cardinals traded Haren to acquire may retire.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I would have preferred it without the ten million updates from Milwaukee...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Feb 15, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Mark Mulder undecided!
http://twitter.com/susanslusser/statuses/9152157800
Stay tuned for a dozen more updates per minute.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
New headline
“Mark Mulder close to retirement, minor league deal with Milwaukee”
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
do they have one of those auto-headline generators?
I swear I’ve read every variant since October.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Mark Mulder Pregnant With Two-Headed Bat Baby.
Is it Spring yet?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Feb 15, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Echolocation Whispers Suspected
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Mark Mulder decided?!?? ?!? ?! ? !? ...?!
Above headline remains unchanged, continue staying tuned.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
rumors of my reconciling myself with reality have been greatly exaggerated.
8:58pm: Mulder told Slusser that even though he is going to "shut [his arm] down from throwing . . . "
sensible, mark, i like the realistic turn this is taking . . . .
he is not calling it quits just yet.
doh!
you can continue to get yet another full year of doug melvin hearts mark mulder headlines.
"It doesn't have to be terribly prolific! Just so that it isn't childish and silly." She reflected. "I prefer stories about squalor." J.D.S.
You don't have to throw to pitch!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Feb 15, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
David Freese
I know a guy who played against him, and partied with him, in the minors and Freese is evidently a mess.
i mean he did go to lafayette
only natural.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 15, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
some good people have come out of lafayette
that being said i work out in wildwood and hate most of those rich kids who think they can do whatever the hell they want just because mommy and daddy have a shit ton of cash that they throw at their ungrateful spawn under the guise of parenting…
Didn't Ryan Howard go to Lafayette?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
aren't a lot of guys in the minors?
I’ve had friends who’ve worked for minor league teams and they’ve reported that a lot of them are raging hubristic douches who think they’re invulnerable and the rules don’t apply to them. Read: young and stupid. Hopefully now that Freese sees he has a defined role on a major league team, he wisens up.
i worked for a minor league team last summer
and i think that’s a spot-on analysis of a majority of minor leaguers
"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang
When I was in the minors,
we sprinkled cocaine on our Frosted Flakes.
Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.
by spants on Feb 15, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
to the extreme
Champagne and beer splashing.
Oh, yeah!
Not only are the Redbirds getting the hang of this, they’re downright enjoying this celebration and partying stuff.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
uh huh
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/images/2009/09/19/aiV5g6LQ.jpg
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
So basically they are mostly 18-25 year old males?
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Feb 15, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
TROY GLAUS: “OH, GOD, I FORGOT TO START THROWING.”
lolllll
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
ya, danups entire post had WIN all over it.
speaking of inet catch phrases/buzz words….what’s the updates to “win”, “fail” and “epic”? I need to update my nomenclature. I was reluctant to update BFF with Bestie but whatev LOL
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
He developed the Eephus over the offseason.
Or is it the Eliminator?
Is it Spring yet?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Feb 15, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Ah but does he throw a sinker?
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Feb 15, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Just got word,
Tim Wakefield has been mentoring him
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Rich Hill throws weird
Anybody care to comment on his funky mechanics/arm action/whatever it is?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I will comment
That ish be weird.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
It's not really all that "weird." Some people just naturally throw with their left arm.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 15, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Does that qualify as a disability?
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Feb 16, 2010 5:50 AM EST up reply actions
I've always hated how slow his tempo is
But his arm action and all that is pretty “normal”. He just has the vertical rock that adds some funk but not really too much more than say Pettitte IMO.
Not afraid to nitpick
I'm not a fan of Slow, Slow, Fast deliveries...
…and think it can create problems (e.g Matt Clement).
I mean maybe on the injury thing
I don’t like it because #1 it means you aren’t using your legs aggressively, #2 it’s simple that the faster your body is moving towards the plate, the faster the ball is also moving towards the plate……it’s literally free velocity.
Not afraid to nitpick
I'm not an expert
I used to be a coach and a pitching instructor a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, so I don’t really know what they teach now and what research says is the best these days… however I agree that Hill has an odd arm action. He also throws with a lot of shoulder tilt… a little bit is pretty typical but this a bit more than I would have been comfortable teaching back in my day. Of course, he’s a pro pitcher who has had some success and I’m sitting on my couch sick for the second time in a month. So take my observations with a massive grain of salt.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Feb 15, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
He's awfully slow to the plate.
Just from that clip, he was consistenty taking 2.6-2.9 seconds from first movement to release point, and that’s being generous. He’ll have to shave that down to under 2-flat if he wants the fifth starter job.
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Feb 15, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
motte was throwing about 1.7 pitches to boggs 1
not that motte is the best comparison as he works pretty fast, but i noticed it at least
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
It's February
They’re just loosening up their arms. This isn’t a tryout anymore.
Not afraid to nitpick
less. Tony's reported cut-off
La Russa’s rule that no pitcher who takes more than 1.4 seconds to deliver the ball to home plate will make his rotation
ESPN the mag, by the pic of a Piñeiro meet
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
reminds me of ubaldo jimenez when he locks his elbow sticking his arm straight back.
"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"
"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."
A.D.A.M...
You are a great pitcher and an even-better self-aware space cyborg. (rbn toots his own horn, never underestimate my ego!) BUT WHEN APPLE SAUCE IS PITCHING AND MITCH IS UNLEASHING THE FURY GET OUT OF THE WAY!!!
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by redbirdnation8206 on Feb 15, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
there's a pickoff move of Yadi's where A.D.A.M. has to hit the dirt
Yadi nearly took his head off.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Is it just me
Or does Boggs’ motion just look so smooth out there? I really like his delivery and the angle his pitches seem to come in at.
by Mulliganstew on Feb 15, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
i think he was Carp's pet project
some of the others consult with Wainer. I suspect they are now bored of destroying others, and now pit their apprentices against each other.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Feb 15, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Hawksworth and Waino are BFFs I believe.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Feb 16, 2010 5:53 AM EST up reply actions
moar fanshots!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
My God!! I was shocked that they were wearing shorts,
the winter has erased all my memories of heat.
Bummer.
I was hoping Houston would sign T-Virus.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
that is just a fine nickname from the Red Reporters
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I was, and still am, impressed by it.
That’s another reason I was hoping for him to sign with Houston, so I can use the nickname more often, due to the unbalanced schedule.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Seems pretty cool for $40
Lot of speakers I would be interested in listening too
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 15, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
ya, that's what I'm thinking
signing up right now.
by brackenthebox on Feb 15, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Strauss! talking about Springer (and several other things)
sorry if it’s been linked already…I couldn’t find it on here anywhere
(Russ Springer, 41, has told former teammates he would accept a marked-down contract to return to St. Louis.)
Is it Spring yet?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Feb 15, 2010 2:00 PM EST reply actions
$1m I'd definitely do it
guy is still kryptonite to right-handers. Just a bit unlucky on balls-in-play last year. I think he’d be a useful steadying influence to the pen. If they’re keen on KMac > rotation, we could probably find room for Springer AND Calero, actually…
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by Felonius_Monk on Feb 16, 2010 5:54 AM EST up reply actions
anybody know if there are colby rasmus
t-shirt jerseys available online? I’ve been unable to find any
"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang
did you just do a personalized one?
"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang
You have to, unless you buy from the team store
or one of those mall stores that carry them. They only carry Albert and Carp’s t-shirt jerseys in online shop, IIRC.
Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.
i'm in louisiana
so team store isn’t really an option
"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang
nah like
then click customize
then find colby in the dropdown under select a player
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Does it have the blue border around the last name?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
well
the colby shirt i have is a navy one. white letters with red border. i got a yadi tee with white letters and black border, but i bought it in a store, so can’t say for sure
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Call the Cards team store and see if they'll ship to you
if you don’t want one of the personalized ones.
Do the personalized ones look different?
I know sometimes the t-shirt jerseys have an obnoxious blue and white patterned outline to the numbers and letters, and sometimes it’s just a black outline.. I like the black outline.
Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.
Exactly.
This is why I was so frustrated about there being no Rasmus tees at the team store when I made my trip to St. Louis last year. It was only April, but I was still angry because, the prior year, they had Izturis jersey tees in early May. Izturis! He of the one-year deal and sub-.300 OBP!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
But, did they have Bort?
Is it Spring yet?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Feb 15, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Did you say my name?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Feb 15, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No, my son's name is also Bort.
Is it Spring yet?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Feb 15, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
not true of the colby shrit i got
arched name, white letters, red border
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Yeah but it's not red, so it doesn't count.
My Smoltz blue one was costume ordered, too and it has borders. The red t-s don’t, though.
Here's a thought
Presupposing that Carp, Waino, Penny, and Hill all make the rotation, will there be a rotation anywhere in baseball that even begins to compare in overall curveball quality?
I’d like to see a pitch f/x analysis of this — we all know Carp and Waino’s curves are sick, Hill’s curveball was a terror when he was with the Cubs, and I believe Penny has a pretty solid hammer, too. Plus Lohse throws one. And Jaime too, right?
2010, the year of the curveball?
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
Vivaelunclecharlies?
Is it Spring yet?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Feb 15, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Are you saying that you'd
like to see a Pitch F/X on Brad Penny?
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Feb 15, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
yeah
when he’s on, rich hill’s curveball can be just as devastating as our other guys. hope he makes it, although who knows with the injury and control problems, which hopefully are now cleared up
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 15, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Right
Garcia’s curve is a beautiful thing to see when he’s right. Now he just needs to be right.
by StanTheManFan on Feb 15, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm indeed.
Hmmm indeedy deed.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
2-seamers, curveballs
do we need anything else??
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by Felonius_Monk on Feb 16, 2010 7:46 AM EST up reply actions
I believe for the full Carp/Waino emulation
A cutter is necessary.
Jaime is on the right track.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
Wainer's is more of a slider, I'd say
although I guess it’s all just shades of grey (gray?). I think his comes in at about 81, 82, which is a pretty slow cutter…
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by Felonius_Monk on Feb 16, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
PIXIE DUST = PIE???
Never let Dave Duncan go — Ryan Franklin’s agent told us they took much less $$$ to play for #Cardinals instead of TOR in 07 bc of Dave
http://twitter.com/ShoelessBro/status/9116215678
…BEER PIE?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Anyone baseball fan named ShoelessBro is to be impaled by a pegacorn
seriously
"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~
by YesWeOquendo on Feb 15, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
I am patient
it is supposedly to be when least expected
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
unicorn-bane says Yadi is in the best shape of his life
I’m filled with trepidation.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
on the other hand, he also reports that Carp has a new tat
on his leg
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
^ not sure if this is some twitter-*erry, though.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
can't listen at the moment...
Boog and Mac
http://interact.stltoday.com/blogzone/bird-land/bird-land/2010/02/listen-in-as-mcgwire-works-with-cardinals-hitters/
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That's pretty neat.
I wish more teams had features like this. Maybe Duncan will do one next!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Duncan doesn't speak
He just stands there and watches. Glares, even. That’s enough motivation to get guys to improve.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
I remember Weaver saying if everything was right
he wouldn’t say anything.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
not during the playoffs
’06 savior
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Right....immediately after which he turned back
into a pumpkin.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I thought he left?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Well he turned into a pumpkin,
and was pulled away by a bunch of mice, IIRC.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Feb 15, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
do we tie this back into the tutu comment above
or is that just too cheesy?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
cheesy is fine with mice
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
that's pretty cool
big mac is still ripped. although he is out of breath a lot. liked what he said about continuing to make adjustments on hitting
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 15, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
"loveeeeee your body"
big mac sure is the flatterer.
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
Resident malcontented betamale
Mac got lost in his eyes. . .
Think; It's not illegal yet.
by azruavatar on Feb 15, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I really am looking forward to the day
When someone comes in saying they are in the worst shape of their life. They just sat around all winter drinking and eating.
That would be pretty funny.
Especially if it came from someone like Holliday or Schumaker.
Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.
I thought that's what VEB is for.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Wasn't that David Wells' offseason regimen?
Is it Spring yet?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Feb 15, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Ha, good catch.
Is it Spring yet?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Feb 15, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
ESPN Announcer: So Roy, where have you been for the last fifteen years?
Roy: Well, I uh, well, ya see, I uh… Drinking. Lot a drinking.
ESPN Announcer: I see. Well, are you still drinking?
Roy: No. I uh… I put… uh… Why, you buying?
by Mister Eff on Feb 15, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
d0000000000000d!
just made me spit on my monitor.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
he didn't start out that way...
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z296/dodgersrule7/reyesd.jpg
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Prince Fielder is offended.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
"Fries are still vegetables, right?"
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by Felonius_Monk on Feb 16, 2010 7:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Strawberry cheesecake has dairy and fruit
It’s good yeah!
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
think i'm about to have my mlb.tv PC built
for ~$50
maybe $60 once i get a PCI wireless card and a ~64mb PCI vid card
gig of ram, 2.4 P4. fine for what it’s for and pretty good for the price
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
if you're not already planning to
you should put boxee on there. Pretty nice 10 ft interface for mlb.tv and it brings along the same for hulu, netflix, and most other online video sites.
by brackenthebox on Feb 15, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Dunc ties it all together:
Duncan said. "Arm action was good. He’s got some life to his arm. … If I’m Rich Hill, competing for a job, I’m in the best shape I can be."
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
OT: Why doesn't allen craig get as much pub as brandon wood
They have similar minor league numbers. Wood’s defense has been ok in the minors and while the cards don’t see craig as a 3B, everything i have read and seen live makes me think craig is an ok fielder
question just hit me today when they were talking about craig on mlb radio
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
it's a poor baseball name
he should be like Jared and acquire a catchy nickname.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what's his number?
we could call him by his number in spanish – i’m sure nobody has ever done that before.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Looks like Craig's number is 66
So I shall now call him AC66.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
oh, i didn't realize we were talking about nicknames
now it doesn’t seem as seredipitous as it was
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I'm sold on calling him Slater.
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Electric Company?
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
man
my roommate said that one of our outlets in our apartment blew out, and sparks were shooting out of the wall for a bit. luckily he was home because some magazines could have caught on fire! smelled like electricity in here for like an hour
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 15, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know, but it tastes like burning.
Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.
by spants on Feb 15, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's like Porn
You’ll know it when you smell it. (or see it in porn’s case.)
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
no smell works too
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
by TomCat009 on Feb 15, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The ozone smell tastes a
bit like copper
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
like baby spine.
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by Felonius_Monk on Feb 16, 2010 7:50 AM EST up reply actions
GUYS
talk about stuff. i still have a little over an hour left at work
thank gob games are starting in two weeks
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
It's pretty funny.
I somehow knew nothing about it, so I was kind of surprised by the story line.
Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.
Josh hadn't seen it either.
I think we were probably the last two Americans in our generation to watch it.
Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.
i don't think i've seen
though i don’t know if i qualify as your generation
(no offense?)
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Feb 15, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
never seen it.
"It doesn't have to be terribly prolific! Just so that it isn't childish and silly." She reflected. "I prefer stories about squalor." J.D.S.
It isn't too bad
but enjoying Will Ferrel’s style of comedy will greatly influence your enjoyment of the movie
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
essentially 25
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Feb 15, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
We're 4 years apart.
Clearly not in the same generation.
Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.
oooh
look at the X’er coming down on the Y
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Where does Gen X end and Y begin?
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
I am 30
I have been told I was both
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
It's debatable.
I’ve had sure-fire X-ers say I’m too young to be an X-er, and now you’re saying I’m too old to be a Y.
Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.
You're a generational mutt
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Feb 15, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Wiki says
with earliest birth dates used by researchers ranging from 1961 to the latest 1981.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Wiki Wiki Wiki
isn’t that what the Ferret from the old Bud Light commercials said?
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
wild wild west
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by Felonius_Monk on Feb 16, 2010 7:51 AM EST up reply actions
But wiki also says the following about Gen Y
commentators have used birth dates ranging somewhere from the mid 1970s to the early 2000s
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Feb 15, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think you can have generational "dead periods"
You almost have to overlap, unless you can find a specific date/event to draw the line.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Feb 15, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Your generation is lost!! Lost I tell you!
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Nope everyone who could argue
is dead, Its not like Gertie Stein is going to come back just to sue me
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
more importantly, after generation z, where do we go?
did the people naming generations have the foresight to know the world would end in 2012?
Generation AA?
I might just live to see Generation DD awesome
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Who cares
They’re going to be douchebags. If you are 10 years old, you can’t understand that everyone is laughing at the Jersey Shore people. I foresee serious issues resulting from kids watching reality TV too early.
Not afraid to nitpick
Every generation thinks the next one is
a bunch of douchebags, unsurprisingly they are usually right.
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
They are usually right
But I’m saying the next generation is going to be unusually bad. Media has never been as available nor as destructive.
Not afraid to nitpick
The phrase Going to Hell in a Handbasket
has always highlighted the generational thing for me, every generation thinks the next one is the worst ever. When was the last time you used the word handbasket, even the ghost of Christy Mathewson thinks that laguage is archaic
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
or language Whichever
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Right
And they are always right. The next generation is worse. But I think there’s going to be a bigger jump this time. These kids are being raised where media is in their face 24 hours a day and a lot of that media consists of people being stupid in order to get on TV.
Not afraid to nitpick
yeah but they no longer
accept information at face value like former generations do, they don’t accept racial bias, cultural supremacy, or the value of a W/L record for pitchers so on many levels they are better than the generations that came before
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
by TomCat009 on Feb 15, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In terms of doucheism!
Not intelligence. You can’t tell me a spreading of the the Jersey Shore haircut is not worse than any hairstyle…….ever.
Not afraid to nitpick
Mullets? Feathered Hair?
The Fade? Vanilla Ice?
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
This seems like as good a place as any to put this
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Feb 15, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
We haven't seen Blowback like that
since the Muhajidin
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
1980.
Sorry youngin. I should’ve said that we were less than 5 years apart.
Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.
Dude
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Feb 15, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
I'm an 81-er too
maybe that’s why i’m so confused about my identity.
Or it could be the transvestitism.
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by Felonius_Monk on Feb 16, 2010 7:52 AM EST up reply actions
i don't know if you're being sassy or not
but i thought you were older than that
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Feb 16, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Age is strictly a case of mind over matter.
If you don’t mind, it doesn’t matter.
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
well, i mean
i thought i saw you say somewhere that you were early 30s
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I was under that impression too, for some reason.
I was surprised to find I was the same age as Spants.
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by Felonius_Monk on Feb 16, 2010 7:53 AM EST up reply actions
True love is hard to find
Sometimes you think you have true love and then you catch the early flight home from San Diego and a couple of nude people jump out of your bathroom blindfolded like a goddamn magic show ready to double team your girlfriend
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Feb 15, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
We're adopting a dog that's at least part pit bull.
She’s one of the sweetest dogs I’ve ever been around, though.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Feb 15, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Here she is. She’s a doll.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Feb 15, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
good job
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
haha
this is a rational reply
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Feb 15, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
They are amazing dogs
and several friends have them, that said I would never get one if I had small children around
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Pit bulls are supposed to be naturally very sweet dogs.
Their build makes them ideal for fighting so they are raised and tortured to be mean.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
This is what I'm finding out.
I hadn’t really considered one before, so I’ve been trying to get up to speed a bit. She’s really well behaved. Goes a little bonkers when she sees another dog out the front window, but terrific otherwise.
She’s definitely had some training and she’s smart as a whip.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Feb 15, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Whenever I get settled enough, I'm going to get a dog
Probably a mutt of some sort, they tend to be great dogs. Maybe something with some rottweiler or hound dog in it.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Feb 15, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
German Shepheards own
So ridiculously trainable and loyal. We taught ours at home to close the door after being let out. If he had thumbs we wouldn’t even have to let him out to begin with.
Not afraid to nitpick
Ever owned a husky?
They’re crazed puppies until they’re about 8 years old.
Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.
I loved my dog, and I'd like another Husky,
but I’m not sure I can keep up with that level of energy anymore. I barely could as a kid.
Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.
This is my first dog since we
had to put my last (a mutt that was the best dog I’ve had) down 3 years ago. I forgot the attention a puppy demanded, and I’m learning that labs are attention whores.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Or very well-exercised.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Feb 15, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
But in dogs like Huskies and Border Collies (I think to a lesser extent)
exercise will calm them down a lot.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Feb 15, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
I agree.
But sometimes it does nothing. Depends on the dog. Mine never had enough exercise no matter how much she ran or played.
Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.
Yeah.
Some of them may get more of the running/need to be doing something gene than others and I don’t think they can be exercised enough especially in a domestic environment.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Feb 15, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
sidebar
your sig seems out of character CG
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
1000 internet dollars to the person who can tell tomcat who said that.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Feb 15, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
charlie chan?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
No.
Now you owe me 1000 internet dollars.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Feb 15, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
i thought it was a contest
not a bet.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I knew you'd get it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Feb 15, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
yeah but you probably thought
Richard Grieco was hot
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Had you pegged as a Peter DeLuise girl
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
I haven't looked up Richard Grieco yet
but Johnny Depp is way hot.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Feb 15, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
WAYYY before your time kid
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
that was pre Crybaby Walker
Johnny Depp
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Like Mickey Rourke
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
what I loved about Booker
is that he is supposed to be the star of that show but ends up being the least famous of that cast. Holly Robinson Peete is still on television, Peter and Michael Deluise go on to semi-stardom, and Dustin Nguyen is on OZ and Law and Order
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
He's cute too.
I still like Johnny better.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Feb 15, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
Ahh a bit of a tribute?
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Not really.
It has a lot to do with being an Indians and Clemson fan. Heartbreakers.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Feb 15, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
We have a husky here at school
She’s lazy as can be but flips out for a few hours at a time every once in awhile. Probably helps that our friends a few houses down bought her brother so they get to play a lot.
Not afraid to nitpick
Huskys are not housedogs they
are like thoroughbred horses they are bred to run. I was in Fairbanks Alaska a few years ago and help hold the sled teams at the start of the Yukon Quest dog race, those dogs teams are so strong and so fast.
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
my aunt had a dog years ago
don’t remember what breed it was, but she taught him to walk himself around the block. he would stop at all the neighbors’ houses to say hi. they all knew him. pretty awesome. he’d be gone for like an hour, visiting everyone, without ever crossing any street.
I have heard they are nearly impossible to live with
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Albino Hemophiliacs. huh?
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Probably something about Kentucky, or at least Appalachia
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Uhh
Tuppence?
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Source?
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Kidding it was that or a 2p or not 2p joke
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
fine 2p or not 2p whether it is nobler to hold it or go beyond yon tree
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
see not funnier
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
tuppence is obscure slang for vagina.
so…. make of that what you will.
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by Felonius_Monk on Feb 16, 2010 8:01 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder where he puts his chimney broom
while he is typing
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
I sure he will have suggestions for where
I can put it we he chimes in
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
I am struggling to type, actually
with these damn inbred fingers…
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by Felonius_Monk on Feb 16, 2010 7:59 AM EST up reply actions
All thumbs?
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
I had two dalmatians
Not the smartest of dogs, but the first one was a male, extremely loyal, very easy to put up with, very sweet. The second one was a bit of a runt female, but ran circles around the male, used to make us laugh whenever she would go and sit on the male. A little too smart for her own good…which is weird, considering what I said at the beginning. But, if she had been dumber, she wouldn’t have run off, with our dumb Weimaraner in tow.
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 16, 2010 2:41 AM EST up reply actions
Both mutts and hounds
have crazy energy they must burn off daily don’t get one unless you plan on getting them a LOT of running in.
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Nah
We own two mutts now, both like to have a little exercise, but neither are crazy about it. One is mostly a lay-about, the other is older, more attentive to what’s going on outside, but easier on the whole to deal with. Both might have some Chow in them (black on the tongue, though that’s not thought to be indicative, anymore), the older one may also have some Shar pei, while the younger one is at least a quarter lab.
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 16, 2010 2:51 AM EST up reply actions
Mutts are good
problem with purebreeds is that they’ve got a TON of genetic problems (in a lot of cases) due to excessive inbreeding. Bones issues, kidney problems, heart problems, you name it…
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by Felonius_Monk on Feb 16, 2010 7:56 AM EST up reply actions
. . . inexplicable tendencies to wear hairpieces
by brackenthebox on Feb 16, 2010 7:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it's all his own!
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by Felonius_Monk on Feb 16, 2010 8:01 AM EST up reply actions
Any unusual breeding?
No, mostly doggy style
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Feb 15, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We had a bulldog that we mated with a Shit-tzu
we called it a Bull/Shih-t
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
I once went to a zoo with only a single dog in it.
It was a shit-tzu.
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by Felonius_Monk on Feb 16, 2010 8:02 AM EST up reply actions
Just when I think you can't be any dumber
you go and do something like this… AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!!!! I will always rec a good Dumb and Dumber reference.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Your mom gets sabrmetric overload
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Feb 15, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Your SABR is FUBAR
I mean xFip? wOBA.? WTF?
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Jamie Garcia's mechanics scare me.
Someone tell me it’s going to be okay.
"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"
"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."
didn't you read the february article?
they’re brand new and repeatable! they’re in the best shape of his life!
This is too big there is no way he is going to blow it.
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Almost as good as Rich Hill
Who has life in his arm.
It’s always a good sign when your pitchers’ arms are alive.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
We only need his body to hold up for about 3-4 years
after that, whatev.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
whatev = Brewers staff?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Feb 16, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Can somebody read this John Sickels article and summarize for me?
I think I’m reading it with too biased of eyes to get a clear sense of what he is saying.
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/2/15/1311393/get-off-my-lawn
Pretty much sums up the process of calcification
the process which lead mark twain to say “The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out, the conservative adopts them” or as Albert Camus said “Every revolutionary ends up either by becoming an oppressor or a heretic” The revolutionary Sabrmetricians will be annoyed by each new tool that supplants something they trust
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
He's saying that sabermetrics
are getting so finely detailed and specialized, which he thinks makes it harder to see the big picture and saps his enjoyment of the academic process. He also thinks there’s a high level of redundancy, especially with regards to hitting metrics. He’s interested in the prospects, so little of the sabermetric efforts are paying off for him b/c once you have enough data to pay attention, the player is no longer a prospect.
Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.
what she said
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Were those your impressions?
Or were yours much more hostile?
Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.
They were a little more hostile at first
But that was mainly because I read THT’s take(s) on it before reading the actual article. I’m still not exactly sure what he was driving at with the Pitch f/x part, and whether it was related to his first part, so I’ve asked for clarification.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 16, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
I saw it as another version of the
typical OW OW OW you get but instead it relates to that dread we all have when we have to do something rather than getting to
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
The OW OW OW is the
response of people who don’t understand statistics as you begin to talk about regression analysis the numbers and arguments can be a bit difficult to follow for some
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AAaaaand the English language weeps....
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by Felonius_Monk on Feb 16, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
In all fairness it was a Haitian architech that
designed that sentence for me
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
I think he was just using it as an example of
how some of these advances are irrelevant to his work. I think that questioning their value for that reason is kind of silly. Just ignore it if it isn’t useful to you.
Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.
Is this
a thinly veiled attempt to avoid the our copper coated friend’s pitch f/x post?
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
i've only read the beginning
but so far he doesn’t seem to have a degree in baseball knowlegde. i’ll stick to baseball fans that love baseball giving me my baseball information before i worry about some idiot who has a deadline and a vendetta.
viva el birdos!
I actually thought it was a pretty measured piece for two reasons
(1) It was presented almost entirely as a personal thing. The ending line sounded like a genuine question to me, more than a rhetorical dig.
So am I just entering my dotage prematurely? Or is advanced sabermetric analysis becoming so specialized that no one but physics and math majors can understand it, leaving us humanities majors behind, let alone the average fan
(2) The main point of the article is really, really important:
how do we find ways to disseminate the new knowledge and make it comprehensible for the non-math folks among us?Whenever I’m working on a presentation or a paper on my esoteric little corner of research, I try to start by answering the following question (first posed to me by my advisor): “How would I explain this research to my family at Thanksgiving dinner?” Particularly as the field continues to mature and the marginal gains get smaller and smaller, it’s going to become increasingly important to be able to explain new work in a way that is meaningful separate from a 10% decrease in RMSE.
In contrast to the article itself, the comments were just awful. Feel free to get angry at them.
by brackenthebox on Feb 16, 2010 7:55 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, some commenters saw this as a free for all to rip against the esotericism and arrogance of some parts of sabermetrics
Which I don’t think was what John intended to invoke.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 16, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
I'm late to this party
but it’s a very disjointed article for me. Pitch f/x is very new and I also tend to think that it’s lauded for a lot of things it a) can’t do yet and b) may never be able to do. I’ve got significant qualms with the way most of that data is presented and portrayed.
I also think that, to some extent, I agree with him on the # of statistics. The SIERA release reminds me of this alot. People rush to use a metric because it’s “new” and purportedly better than what is existing. Often times this is done before there’s any evidence supporting whether the metric is actually better than the status quo or not. Baseball Prospectus is really as much of a problem as they are a solution anymore.
They cling to antiquated systems (WARP, VORP) and conflate topics by using their proprietary metrics. I get that they’re a business but I also understand why this causes a lot of people confusion. It’s also part of the reason why I prefer Fangraphs — for me, they’ve adopted the current “best practices” of metrics. wOBA, FIP, UZR and some interesting supporting peripherals are all I really want to see.
Which brings me back to John’s article – “though I’m incorporating some of the other metrics such as FIP into my analysis now that I’ve seen how they work.” – this sentiment seems like it’s a year or two late and shows a reticence beyond waiting for evidence of how they work. FIP has been around and prominent for 3-4 years now. John’s well behind the learning curve in this regard.
After wading through the comments, I tend to think the article was also a sub-conscious request for external confirmation. That blog tends to be a bit of an echo chamber w/r/t prospects and evaluation techniques. The comments rapidly devolve into a “old school” mentality that’s tiresome.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
Pitch f/x has contributed more our knowledge of baseball
Over three years than anything else over the past 50. I know you dislike the movement graphs, but that is a very, very tiny part of Pitch f/x work.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 16, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Hyperbole much?
This is one of the most inflammatory statements I’ve read from you (and you’ve come up with some doozies) and there’s really no way for me to even respond with it beyond saying I categorically disagree. I’ll put up linear weights for offense or regression models for projection systems up against anything Pitch f/x has shown in the public domain so far. It’s a fun descriptive tool but the informative aspect is, thus far, lacking.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
and defensive metrics
seem to have greatly influenced the game, as far as who is valued, and who is not (aging sluggers like dye)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Linear weights was first invented 50 years ago
And the basic formulation has not changed much. Base Runs is the only real advancement in that category, and that is a very slight improvement over basic linear weights. Projection systems are so advanced that the best ones are slightly better than Marcels.
DIPS might be the only thing, as it was immediately actionable and, well, correct for the most part. However, I would argue that Pitch f/x is breaking down some of the assumptions in DIPS as well:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/confessions-of-a-dips-apostate/
Defense metrics I’ll agree are probably more accionable than Pitch f/x, however, there haven’t been any advancements in that category since UZR was first created 15 some odd years ago.
Pitch f/x has shown as that the velocity of a fastball doesn’t matter when it’s thrown in the low outside corner. It’s shown us that a pitcher’s pitch outcomes are a range of distributions from a given pitch, and not a homogeneous thing. It has shown us that “pitching backwards” (fastball after offspeed pitch) is an ineffective strategy. It has shown us that a pitches value is not improved when following a high inside fastball. It has shown us that umpires have vastly different strike zones depending on the count. Ned I go on?
My statement may have been hyperbolic, but I take offense to your suggestion that Pitch f/x is merely a toy to create pretty graphs. It is a serious research outlet that has contributed much to our understanding of the game. Why do you think so many Pitch f/x writers have been hired by teams?
by vivaelpujols on Feb 16, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Not buying it.
First of all, I was very specific in that the public domain research has shown far less fruit that what a people want to purport. I’m comfortable in saying that the clubs have made far better use of it internally.
Second, I think it’s verified some aspects of the game but I’m not sure claims that it’s “contributed more to our knowledge of baseball” aren’t simply false. There’s a diminishing return to the kind of work that “pitching backwards doesn’t work” can provide when compared to a good projection system and/or linear weights.
Third, this 50 year line in the sand that you draw doesn’t seem nearly so clear cut to me as you make it out to be. Maybe you have a more detailed history of when sabermetric breakthroughs occurred than I do but statements like “linear weights was first invented 50 years ago” seem like semantic tiptoeing rather than addressing the spirit of the subject.
Lastly, your indignation gets old. You’re real quick lately to take personal offense when people discuss subjects. I don’t really give a rat’s ass if I hurt your feelings. Validate your statements without trying to draw me (or others) into this emotional tit for tat. I know you’re a pitch f/x proponent. You know I’m not. Trying to label my position as “it’s a toy” cheapens the whole discussion.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
You said it was a fun descriptive tool
I categorically disagree with that, as I have seen all of the insights that have resulted from Pitch f/x analysis.
I would say there is a far diminishing return to projection systems and linear weights than Pitch f/x. The best projection systems are .048 points of correlation better at predicting player OPS than the most basic possible one. The best run estimators are .16 RMSE better than the worst (including OPS). There is simply put, very little advancements that have been made in those areas. Linear weights was invented 50 years ago by Pete Palmer. Tango, and BBR explicitly use Pete Palmer’s formula for figuring out linear weights. I can email him for clarification if you’d like.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 16, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Right
It is a fun descriptive tool. It’s nice to describe things but I care far less about backward looking information than I do forward looking information.
Also, when I read things like this: ‘It has shown us that "pitching backwards" (fastball after offspeed pitch) is an ineffective strategy.’ I have to wonder why fangraphs shows individual pitch linear weights. If what you say is true, than it flies in the face of sequence independent pitch values. The consensus on these topics doesn’t seem to have arrived yet.
I’ll still take the first robust projection tool (even if it is the “most basic”) over pitch f/x in its current incarnation. The most informative stuff I’ve seen thus far (and this applies to my personal view) has been the location graphs based on linear weights: i.e. a curveball down low is a plus but the same pitch located high in the zone is a negative based on results. Even that is problematic as it removes the pitch sequencing involved in the at bat.
Will pitch f/x do great things for our understanding of baseball? Maybe. I’m still waiting for something from it to revolutionize the way I look at baseball the same way PECOTA/Marcel, wOBA, FIP etc have.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
what about MLEs?
That would be my pick for biggest sabermetric innovation of the last fifty years, if I had to narrow it down to one acronym.
Hmmm... I would disagree with you, but I don't really know a lot about MLE's
I would say in the last 20 years it’s fielding metrics #1, DIPS #2, Pitch f/x, hit f/x and hittracker #3, batted ball reports #4, projection systems #5. MLE’s probably fit between 3 and 4, but, like I said, I don’t know a ton about them.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 16, 2010 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
I think its a really good article
and most of the salient “I think that….” points are ones that I’d say I agree with:
My personal opinion is that the many of the newest metrics (at least in regards to hitting and pitching) are just more complicated ways to say the same basic truths.
That’s probably reasonably fair – the extra amounts of data that stats like TRA and even SIERRA include still end up in 90% of cases producing a final “value” for a pitcher that’s pretty much the same as their FIP. Obviously there are cases at the edges (extreme groundballers, people with excellent timing and the ability to leave men on base, if you subscribe to the belief that those are skills) that may deviate somewhat, but these deviations are usually only slight, and do not alter the overall picture that simple FIP builds up for a pitcher. The use of more advanced metrics is obviously a game of diminishing returns in that respect.
I think the same is true of wOBA – use of linear weights and inclusion of baserunning info pretty much “solves” hitting, as far as I can see; I guess in future we may see a fielding-and-luck-independent stat of some sort that perhaps somehow incorporates HitFX categories of “ball in play” that are more elaborate than just “GB/FB/LD/IFFB”, in a kinda reverse version of TRA, but ultimately all that will probably do is enable us to slightly reduce the “luck” constituent of hitting, something which a significant sample size and some sensible regression can do just as well anyway. As with pitching, the only other area we can incorporate (timing/clutch) is debatable as an actual “skill” anyway.
I agree that the new data generated by Pitch F/X promises a revolution in our understanding of the game. However, (putting on my historian’s hat here), we are very early in this process. We still need to see which paths are blind alleys and which ones will lead to actual results. Revolutions seldom turn out the way you expect them to.
I think that’s very fair, to be honest. I get the feeling we’re at a very unscientific stage in the use of pitchFX and it is fair to treat it merely as another tool – digital scouting, if you will, that produces answers which are 100% subjective. Exactly how to interpret this info in what remains that very subjective fashion remains nebulous, and I get the feeling that a large percentage of the pitchFX stuff I’ve read is simply based on noise and dubious interpretations of the data, often taken out of context or subject to personal biases.
But there’s a good chance that things like Pitch F/X will never be available for minor league players in regular season action, which means it isn’t likely to have much of an impact on my own personal work in prospect analysis. By the time we have sufficient major league data on a guy for the newest stuff to mean anything, he usually isn’t a prospect any more and I can safely ignore him. The minor leagues are my niche. At this point, the F/X stuff hasn’t impacted my main work, though I’m incorporating some of the other metrics such as FIP into my analysis now that I’ve seen how they work.
I think that’s fair enough – simply due to the small sample sizes at work, and due to the lack of availability of batted ball data & things like pitchFX at those levels, I suppose scouting has to be the main tool used to evaluate players. That seems largely uncontroversial to me…
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by Felonius_Monk on Feb 16, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
I just wrote the
Final paper of Undergrad w00t
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
As you can probably tell writing
was never my strong point. Oh well a couple of years and I will start grad school and have to write every week again.
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
BS in Marketing/Business Admin
I want to make money but I don’t want to do math
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
marketing BS is big business, i hear.
"It doesn't have to be terribly prolific! Just so that it isn't childish and silly." She reflected. "I prefer stories about squalor." J.D.S.
when I told an engineer friend of mine that a Marketing degree was a BS just like his
He told me that damn right it is a B.S. degree
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by TomCat009 on Feb 16, 2010 6:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
engineer?
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
ohh the easy kind
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
I'm confused
I typed electrical but you seem to have read civil.
I’ll give props to nuclear and petroleum engineers but will battle other disciplines for superiority.
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Econ FTW
I never have to write papers. Ever.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Really?
I have a friend who is working on her doctorate and all she’s ever done is write about economics, even back during undergrad.
Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.
That was my experience in Econ as well
I saw this last bubble coming in 03 and all my Prof said was “interesting”
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Shows what they know.
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Feb 16, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
of course I was pretty Chicken Little in that
paper predicting Stagflation and a Horde `o Locusts oer the land
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Ladybugs, actually.
But so close!
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Feb 16, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
Seriously!
I’ve had an insane amount of ladybugs at my place. Even this winter!
Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.
my house had an infection of Japanese beetles
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 16, 2010 1:56 AM EST up reply actions
probably an infestation
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Nice.
Turn that baby in and be done with it.
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Feb 16, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
No S
at this point I don’t give a Flying Flip if it is awful
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effin a man!
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