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Carl Crawford is very rich

So the Boston Red Sox—you remember them, the Cardinals were supposed to play them in that one World Series that got cancelled—just signed Carl Crawford to a deal that will pay him $142 million over seven years. That's a lot of money over a lot of years, and although Crawford, at 29, is really young for this kind of free agent—Boston can thank the late Devil Rays for deciding that he was ready to go in the Major Leagues for good after hitting .287/335/.456 over 83 AAA games as a 20-year-old—they're still paying a corner outfielder with a post-breakout career OPS+ of 113 until he's 36. 

I'm not especially worried about how he'll age, and i doubt the Red Sox are either; after all, they employ Bill James, the first writer of note to suggest players with stereotypical young player skills like batting average, speed, and defensive value age better than the Jack Custs of the world. (It's why Johnny Damon is fewer than 500 hits away from making Hall of Fame voters really uncomfortable!) 

What would worry me is just how good he is now. Crawford is the kind of player who, because of his uniqueness in a particular time, reminds people of better players. He's the active leader in triples; he's stolen fifty bases five times; he even hits some home runs. Very few players, especially now, offer value in that shape, which is why his Similar Players list is peppered with guys like Sam Crawford and Sherry Magee.

But he's not as good as the guys who used to do it. Tim Raines and Kenny Lofton walked twice as often; Ichiro's on-base percentage (again ignoring Crawford's apprentice years) is 30 points higher; even Marquis Grissom walked more often, before he inexplicably became a low-OBP slugger. Crawford is coming off his two best seasons, and the free agent market appears to be undergoing some serious inflation, so I don't think this is going to be a comical deal by any means five years from now. But he's no more a franchise player than Jayson Werth was. 

After the jump, a eulogy for dearly departed LOOGY Dennys Reyes, who apparently signed a $1.1 million deal with the Philadelphia Phillies last night. Godspeed, fair Diner—like your chromed-out trailer-hitched brethren we always knew you'd be hooked to a truck and towed away eventually. 

Star-divide

Like Ray King, the last LOOGY the Cardinals had who could fairly be christened with a food-related nickname, Reyes followed up a successful Cardinals debut with a vaguely disappointing second trip. Unlike King, it was impossible to ever feel quite comfortable groaning when Reyes would get up.

In 2010 Reyes faced the dreaded and inexplicable reverse split for the first time since 2004, and what was especially terrible about this was that Tony La Russa was utilizing him imperfectly at the same time. Over his career Reyes has been one of the LOOGYest left-handed relievers in baseball, with career OPSes-against of .669 and .801.

In 2009 La Russa picked his spots really well, giving Reyes 36 more plate appearances against left-handers, and he responded by having an excellent season—he held left-handers to a .207/.288/.228 line, compared to .276/.408/.466 against right-handers. In 2010 Reyes got just 13 more plate appearances against left-handers, and I want to be pissed about that!

Every time he brought Reyes out to pitch to some right-hander or switch-hitter I wanted to be pissed about it. But at the same time—even though Reyes struck out just five right-handers in 62 at-bats—he was having a catastrophic reverse-platoon-split event, thanks to a .190 BAbip against righties. So either by sheer luck or an over-confidence in an extremely small sample size La Russa managed to avert Reyes-related disaster, and I wasn't happy about that at all. 

The Phillies probably won't be disappointed, if they use him like they should; I doubt he'll allow a .396 BAbip to left-handers again next year. But if he does, I hope Charlie Manuel at least gives their fans a chance to complain about it.

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>20 mil/year for crawford? yeesh

thank goodness we managed to sign holli before this ridiculous overpricing of corner outfielders

I'm not trolling, just being sarcastic.

by hr on Dec 9, 2010 6:14 AM EST reply actions  

holliday is looking pretty good right now

you could probably flip him and get some prospects back if you needed to. He’s BELOW market now. Bosox are looking pretty good — if they sign Adrian Beltre as well, then they’ll have quite a team. Probably time for us to go dumpster diving in Boston to see if we can pick up another Lugo. Gotta love the Gonzalez deal for them – guy is going to light up Fenway.

Good lord, how much is Albert going to cost now?. I would like to see them buy Albert out of his 2011 deal as part of this new deal. If they have to go 7 years then I think it wold be prudent to make sure 2011 is one of the seven.

Just win

by The Duke on Dec 9, 2010 6:45 AM EST up reply actions  

the bosox

definitely wont be getting beltre, unless they trade someone. youk/adrian/ortiz/drew will split 1B/3B/RF/DH…also, they will get eaten up by the yanks if they get lee, with 5 lefties in the lineup

it seems weird, to have all that speed wasted in that tiny LF. but, the move was as much about keeping him from the yankees as it was about actually getting him

by zeruko on Dec 9, 2010 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

That's a good point...

in a zero sum situation, with two teams where money is no object, signing Crawford might be a 10 win swing.

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

@ overthemonster.com

they did some quick calculations based on what the Sox got from their LF in 09 vs what Crawford did in 09 and it came out to a 8 WIN swing. Pretty incredible how bad the Sox LFs were.

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by njnick on Dec 9, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

"If they have to go seven years"

The deal that Pujols gets is going blow everyone’s socks off. Eight years with the first being 2012 would be a huge coup for the Cards. Baseball is loaded with cash and obviously teams never considered big players like the Nationals are ready to spend. Our biggest competitors for his services, the Angels, are standing around looking for someone to give hundreds of millions of dollars to and no one seems to want their money. They are primed to make a monster offer to Pujols.

8/225 is the starting point (that’s $28M AAV) and it could go to 10/300. If we have to pay more than 8/225 we should back away. We should just admit it was a great run and we can’t have an underpaid inner-circle HOFer anymore. We’ve got Matt Holliday signed to a 6/103 – that’s a great deal – build around Holliday and Rasmus while keeping a flexible payroll. It’s still the NL Central – the most winnable division in baseball – and our main competitors are giving multiple years to Bronson Arroyo and Miguel Cairo.

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2010 9:15 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Albert Pujols is not on the FA market.

The Angels may be ready to throw hundreds of millions at Albert Pujols, but they can’t negotiate with him until he is a free agent. Right now, it is just the Cardinals and Pujols. It was always going to be an AAV in the mid- to upper-twenties. It was always going to be eight or more years. Pujols has always been singular. His contract was always going to be singular, too.

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by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Yabut...

if the Angels get completely shut out of the FA derby this year, won’t that make Lozano drive a harder bargain knowing they have the funds to get Pujols?

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by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

That potential leverage a year away

is mitigated by the risk taken, playing w/o an extension, that Pujols has a catastrophic injury this season and destroys his value.

Honestly, I think both sides are just looking at the situation as it exsits right now. If they have to deal with the 2011 offseason, then they’ll deal with it during the 2011 offseason.

by dronemc on Dec 9, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

This, I don't get

Who cares? He’s got $100m.

But I’m sure I think differently than player agents.

by sdrone on Dec 9, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I am not saying Pujols is like this

But it is not uncommon for players to be living paycheck to paycheck. Unbelievable – Yes, Uncommon – No

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by njnick on Dec 9, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly

and I know this isn’t going to be that popular, but I’m starting to move to the side of hoping we DON’T re-sign Pujols. Unless the fact that Bos and NYY are likely out of the race for a 1B (unless he’s extremely under-market-value) pushes down his value significantly, I just think he’s going to be wanting more than he’s worse. I think 8 years, $225m is going to be a big mistake, personally.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Dec 9, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think Boston is out of the race

Adrian is on a one year deal right now

Fire John Mozeliak

by purple_haze on Dec 9, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Rumor is it's a done deal

that won’t be announced till after January. I forget why there was a delay.

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by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they traded for him under the assumption/understanding that he would extend with them eventually

The Red Sox aren’t dumb enough to unload that many good prospects for a one-year rental.

by mojowo11 on Dec 9, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I still can't believe Cairo

got a two year deal. I don’t understand. Jocketty must really like his personality or ability to cook.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 9, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Really Interesting point Duke

It is obviously going to be a long term deal. Maybe it would be good for one of the years to be this year when they are actually likely to get the full value. If it is going to take an 8-10 year deal to re-sign him then it would be nice to start it in 2011 rather than 2012.

by OCCardsFan on Dec 9, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

hmm

Just last night I was arguing the opposite – that Albert’s a unique enough case that salary inflation won’t matter much; he’ll get basically the same dollars and years regardless of what Jayson Werth gets paid – and now I’m changing my mind. Carl Crawford is getting paid $20 million AAV??

So where I was once figuring on a do-able 7/225… I mean, christ, if he’s really going to get 10/300 somewhere (and he probably could, just a question if it’s a team he wants to play for) and he won’t cut the Cards a significant break in years, then I figure the best baseball move would be to let him walk. Sigh.

by Pegasus on Dec 9, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

The only teams who have the cash for a 10/300 contract

both have 1B/DH pretty much locked-up for the foreseeable future (assuming A-Gon is a long-termer in Boston).

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Dec 9, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

You don't think the Dodgers, Angels, or Seattle

would make room for him?

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Dec 9, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think Seattle's a fit

They’ve been trying to trim payroll, and they have a pretty massive rebuilding project

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by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

To say nothing of the effect SAFECO has on batting averages. AP surely notes such. . .

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by akaitori on Dec 9, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

the dodgers

may or may not have a have an clear owner this time next year

by zeruko on Dec 9, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think Albert would go to Seattle

And the Dodgers’ ownership situation is a fucking mess, so that might be a difficult thing for them to pull off.

The Angels, though…the Angels scare me.

by mojowo11 on Dec 9, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Cameron just suggested a 7/210 and he's pretty bullish on player salaries...

so maybe there’s hope.

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

What was Cameron projecting for Crawford, Werth, and Lee?

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by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Less than what they got...

point taken.

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

And that ain't hay!

;=8)

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by The MooCow on Dec 9, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Berkman's deal. . .

looks pretty fantastic too, if seen in that light.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 9, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed

the guy is two years removed from a .419 wOBA.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Dec 9, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Somehow it doesn't seem

Very prudent/fair to pay what may end up being their 4th best hitter that much money. I’m not sure if I’m more disgusted or jealous. Has anyone thought about that lineup?

Ellsbury
Crawford
Gonzalez
Youk
Ortiz
Pedroia
Drew
Scutari
Saltalamacchia.

Thank god they didn’t resign Martinez. Although salty is only a few years removed from being a duper prospect.

by callmesir on Dec 9, 2010 8:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Yeah, but you have to figure

he’s (probably) their second-best player overall. Visiting teams pretty much can’t get hits to left in Fenway anymore, other than grounders through the hole and doubles off the monster.

Still, screw these guys and their infinite money.

by Pegasus on Dec 9, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

One might argue that, because of the Green Monster,

Crawford’s defensive skills are less valuable to the Red Sox than pretty much any other team. Hits to left field that would find Crawford’s glove will bounce off the Monster.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

thats what i was just telling my roommate

who is from boston. but, it comes back to the sox having him and not anyone else. sure, the tigers or angels would have gotten more out his defensive abilities for the same money spent, but i dont think the sox feel bad if they only get 85% ROI compared to those other teams when those others teams cant get anything from him at all now.

by zeruko on Dec 9, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

How much of that can he recoup by playing crazy shallow?

Goes well beyond my ability to understand defensive stats, anyway. Intuitively I think you have to be right, but I don’t know how big the marginal loss of defensive value would really be.

Or if they move Ellsbury, Crawford’s probably an excellent CF.

by Pegasus on Dec 9, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I have no idea how good his arm is.

What else from being the league’s premier defensive LF doesn’t translate to being a great defensive CF?

I know he’s said he’s “uncomfortable” in center, but I don’t really buy that. He’d get comfortable.

by Pegasus on Dec 9, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

i agree he'll prolly play shallow

but i dont think he has the instincts for center. he has always struck me as having more physical ability than baseball ability, if that makes any sense

by zeruko on Dec 9, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if they won't end up swapping him and Drew

or even Ellsbury. He’s a better defender than both of those guys and, once he’s adjusted to the new position, it’ll probably benefit both him and the RedSox long-term.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Dec 9, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

This is true

Maybe he can play RF in Fenway, and LF for away games! (Or just switch to RF permanently.) (Or play CF.)

by mojowo11 on Dec 9, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

or DH against RHP and LF against RHP

or 3 innings in each field

or one inning at each of the eight positions plus a lottery pick for inning 9

the combinations are infinite!

Just win

by The Duke on Dec 9, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Somehow it doesn't seem

Very prudent/fair to pay what may end up being their 4th best hitter that much money. I’m not sure if I’m more disgusted or jealous. Has anyone thought about that lineup?

Ellsbury
Crawford
Gonzalez
Youk
Ortiz
Pedroia
Drew
Scutari
Saltalamacchia.

Thank god they didn’t resign Martinez. Although salty is only a few years removed from being a duper prospect.

by callmesir on Dec 9, 2010 8:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

That's a, um, decent lineup...

I didn’t realize Crawford walked so rarely… A little worrisome.

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2010 8:24 AM EST up reply actions  

im thinking

crawford
pedroia
gonzalez
youkilis
ortiz
drew
scutaro
salty
ellsbury

by zeruko on Dec 9, 2010 8:30 AM EST up reply actions  

But enough about the Sox... I'm thinking:

Dyson
Francouer
Gordon
Butler
Betamit
Kendall
Betancourt
Getz
Melky

Or maybe flip Frenchy and Betamit. What do you guys think?

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2010 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

We can laugh now

but in 2013 that team should be rocking.

1.14.10, the day I went green.

by njnick on Dec 9, 2010 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

That sounds

awfully familiar when referring to the royals

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by Dttl89 on Dec 9, 2010 9:36 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think the Pirates were supposed to be good by now, too.

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by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair

The Royals have amassed much more young talent than the Pirates or the Royals rebuilds of the past.

Still, if anyone could screw it up, it’d be the Royals.

by mojowo11 on Dec 9, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

This sounds like the type of terminology a particularly nerd-ish individual would deploy

against a bully in sixth grade in response to being the brunt of their jokes

“You can laugh at me now, but in three years, I will be two whole inches taller and will have watched three times as many Kung Fu films as I have at this stage in my life! "

“Also, Jeff Francouer will be my cleanup hitter! How are you going to deal with that?! HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DEAL WITH THAAAAAAAAAT?!?!?!”

*Said nerd (i.e., Royals) runs away sobbing and subsequently trips over his copy of Dayton Moore’s future book, “Why Be On Base When You Can Be Off” with a bright orange ‘clearance’ sticker on the cover

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

this

flip salty and scutaro probably?

Save Boog

by tehzachatak on Dec 9, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't believe that series got cancelled

We would’ve destroyed them.

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by Dttl89 on Dec 9, 2010 8:43 AM EST reply actions  

Stupid Hee Seop Choi

Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Holliday 9, Pujols 3, Berkman 7, Freese/Craig 5, Molina 2, Theriot 4, pitcher, Ryan 6

by gocards62 on Dec 9, 2010 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

CINTRON!

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Wrong year.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I have a long memory

and apparently an incorrect one at that

Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Holliday 9, Pujols 3, Berkman 7, Freese/Craig 5, Molina 2, Theriot 4, pitcher, Ryan 6

by gocards62 on Dec 9, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Cintron took out Rolen's shoulder in the 2002 playoffs

Choi did it a couple of years later.

Jesse Ventura believes both were working under orders from the Phillies.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

so apparently we are done with trying to do anything at the winter meetings

that could mean Boog stays
and should i get excited about that:

a Major League source said on Wednesday that Bengie Molina might very well be in play as an option to back up his younger brother, Yadier, in St. Louis.

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by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 8:59 AM EST reply actions  

that would be awesome.

on either/or/both. Yadi would get more rest then and we’d have better hitting backup and I’m betting Boog whoops The Riot’s ass in ST.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 9, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

As long as theriot also whips schu's ass

That would be acceptable

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by VolsnCards5 on Dec 9, 2010 9:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

If Theriot loses his glove arm and one foot, he should still beat out Skip.

Skip moves like he got a dogsled tied to his ass.

You're the fail to my win?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 9, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Boog didn't hit in ST last year.

If he wants to “whoop The Riot’s ass” he might want to get a hit or two.

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by Tackle Box on Dec 9, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

how much of a ST did he have last year?

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by scoot on Dec 9, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

couple of weeks, IIRC.

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by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

after wrist surgery.

Everybody conveniently leaves that part out.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 9, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Everybody also conveniently leaves out. . .

his career AAA line of 252/303/341.

Before wrist surgery.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 9, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thank you

Boog has always sucked at hitting. And yes, his wrist was messed up while he put up that minor league line, but I’m not really all that impressed by the post-surgery results.

That said, he should still be starting for us, given our staff’s ground ball mastery.

by mojowo11 on Dec 9, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

So much depends on who plays third. Pegankle Freese and Craig do not inspire gold-glove confidence.

Alas, I am sure Happy Pedro and Miles will be available. .

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by akaitori on Dec 9, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

You think he's not going to hit better than he did a year after the surgery?

Nobody, and I mean nobody, hits worth a damn coming off wrist surgery.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 9, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

it wasn't really wrist surgery

i mean, it was technically surgery and it was performed on the wrist, but ask dero or derrek lee if what boog had is really wrist surgery. boog was playing a month after he had it, maybe less.

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by prophetjohn on Dec 9, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

wut

surgery on your wrist= wrist surgery

yeah, there are tons of different things that could be operated on there, but its still wrist surgery

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by scoot on Dec 9, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

wat

no, Evan Longoria and Yadier Molina also had wrist surgeries. Checked Longoria’s numbers lately?

Wrist surgeries can involved the connective tissue around the wrist (as they seem to in Boog’s most recent case) they can involve the bones of the radius and ulna (Longoria’s case), or you can be screwed and they have to involve the carpals themselves either in adjusting and stabilizing, or if you’re really screwed, removal of one badly damaged carpal bone (I believe this happened to Mather).

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by hazel on Dec 9, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

point was

its still surgery on the wrist. Yes, I’m pretty well aware that there are different surgeries that can be performed on the wrist. And the knee. And the shoulder. And the elbow. And the ankle.

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by scoot on Dec 9, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

i can't get past

the thought that Yadi eating dinner with Bengie every night would be highly detrimental to his physique.

by _pistol_ on Dec 9, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Benjie has a thyroid problem?

/Just spitballing here.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 9, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

think about it this way:

Bengie eating dinner with Yadi every night might improve his physique

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by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

well, at least reyes is gone

so no way bengie would be able to eat with him

by zeruko on Dec 9, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

there i fixed it

so no way bengie would be able to eat with him

nah, i will be doing cartwheels if bengie signs with us, i don’t care who he eats with

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by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

haha

i was thinking that as i typed

by zeruko on Dec 9, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I still hope the uniforms read

A. Molina
B. Molina

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by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

is #11 available?

and can we get Jose too?
if i were GM and had some spare cash, i’d totally do that just for shits

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by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

of course, duh

i have a picture on 3B of Oquendo, Miles and Boog, how could i forget this…

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe just eat the table. . . . The King of Comida set high standards calorically speaking. . .

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Dec 9, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

can there be too much in the way of molinas?

seriously, though… that would be sweet.

hey Mo: theriot at 2B, boog at SS.
KEEP BRENDAN RYAN.

by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 9, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

98% caught stealing muahahaha

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

it also brings the possiblity

that Yadi and Benjie throw out the same guy during a series or better yet, the same game

by Hootie Who on Dec 9, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

the only bad thing about this is

that it won’t be theriot

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

If it is, we're doing something terribly wrong....or not.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 9, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

have bengie

throw it at theriot when skip is covering 2nd?

by zeruko on Dec 9, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

throw him out, knock him out cold

same difference, right

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Or even better

the same play!

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 9, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

PxP, future...

Yadier Molina moves from C to 1B.
Bengie Molina in at C.
With Carlos Pena batting, Kosuko Fukudome picked off of 1B, Bengie Molina to Yadier Molina.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

that would be priceless.

hey Mo: theriot at 2B, boog at SS.
KEEP BRENDAN RYAN.

by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 9, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking more along the lines of

Bengie’s behind the plate, and Juan Pierre tries to steal second….B Molina throws to second, while Yadier, taking the day off, decides to help older brother by also throwing to second….from the dugout! Both balls arrive before Pierre, and the ump calls him out twice.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 9, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I've seen this rumour a few times

I can’t believe someone somewhere doesn’t need a starting C? Surely Bengie, even after his ugly 2010, isn’t better than a few teams’ starting backstop? He does have a good defensive rep, even if his bat is showing signs of serious decline.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Dec 9, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

The problem is more that Bengie is considering retirement

So he’s going to need to be convinced to play anywhere, and probably won’t want to play for some shitty team with a terrible catcher that’s not going to win any games either way.

by mojowo11 on Dec 9, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

brotherly competition!

boog at shortstop makes the starting pitching a lot better

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 9, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

...and the pendulum of AL hate

swings away from the Yankees, back towards the Sox.

by mattyp on Dec 9, 2010 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

I think 2004

and that non series really solidified my hate for the Red Sox more. They just so happened to sign one of my favorite rays…who is now dead to me

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by Dttl89 on Dec 9, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, the lack of 2004 World Series

caused a deep, black, pit of despair in my sports soul for about 6 months.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Dec 9, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

As someone who is friends with multiple Boston sports fans...

my hate is firmly for the Red Sox.

Also, Fever Pitch.

How dare the Farrelly brothers make a bastardized American version of an above-average film/book originally about the Gunners. Obviously Hornby authorized it, but I would still enjoy seeing Liam Brady punch Jimmy Fallon in the face.

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

This

Even drawing a comparison between the bosox and my gunners is sacrilege. The red sox are so obviously the equivalent of the scousers from Liverpool

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Dec 9, 2010 9:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

So much so they bought the club.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I was about to post this.

Had a good laugh over it when I first read the news.

The only thing more appropriate would have been for Henry to try to strike a deal with Tottenham.

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Heh.

Get you crazy guys, getting emotionally attached to sports franchises from far away countries that you have no real ties to.

Oh, wait….

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Dec 9, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

haha yeah

crazy americans!

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Real ties?

Charlie George knocked up my mother!

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was mysterui's mother.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I had a gf rent Fever Pitch to watch together

I got pretty close to breaking up with her. She didn’t understand why I was so mad.

by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 9, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Unless a girl already likes baseball

I don’t try to convert her. And even if she does, she’ll probably find my sabermetric appreciation of the game overbearing.

Life is hard in mom’s basement. Nobody understands us baseball nerds!

by mojowo11 on Dec 9, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

An ex-girlfriend of mine got me Fever PItch.

This was long before she knew anything about baseball, just that I liked it. My response was, “You know it ends with them beating the Cardinals, right?”

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

faaaail

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah, so a piece of fiction

since the ‘04 series never happened. (I’ve never seen this….so-called movie)

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 9, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Reading this whole sub-thread has made me very sad again

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Dec 9, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Mine is Forever Stuck.....

…on the Yankees – I HATE the Yankees!!!!

:=8P

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 9, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

wut

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 9, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

The Bitter Milk of Disappointment.....

:=8P

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 9, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet Boras is really wishing Holliday was a FA this offseason

These corner outfield numbers are ridiculous.

Keep Boog!

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Dec 9, 2010 9:37 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

im kinda surprise

i fully expected the yanks to give the crawford contract to holliday last year. when they acted disinterested, everyone was saying it was because they were holding out for crawford. i guess the breakout of gardner had a lot to do with the (perceived) change in desire

by zeruko on Dec 9, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

If Holliday was a FA

Would the contracts be as ridiculous? Food for thinking about.

by mojowo11 on Dec 9, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

wat?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

food for thounting

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twatter

by prophetjohn on Dec 9, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Cliff Lee, 7 year offer by the Yankees

I wouldn’t want him by the fourth year.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

Olney reported it this morning.

Rangers could very well match it, though.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Seven Years

Per Heyman

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

"It's only right, Lee is the best player on the market"

“hes not afraid of nyc”
“i wonder who the ace will be, lee or cc”
“good move by #yankees to up offer to lee.”

What are the chances Braunecker and others are directly putting cash in this guys bank account?

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Very good.

Boras, too.

I like how Heyman doesn’t distinguish between coming into town as a visiting starter in the World Series and having to live with the New York media spotlight 24/7. Randy Johnson wasn’t scared of NYC, either, but he sure didn’t take to the NYC media very well. I’m not saying that Lee and Johnson have similar personalities or that Lee will have a similar reaction to the NY media, just that having playoff success in Yankee Stadium doesn’t mean one will do well under the media glare of playing for the Yankees.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

How does someone only give up 18 BBs in 212.1 innings??!?!?!?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 9, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

they throw strikes

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

They're both red asses

though I doubt Cliff Lee is as temperamental as the unit when he’s not pitching.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you saying that The Big Unit and Cliff Lee are communists?

NO POLITICS!

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I was under the impression that he was calling them baboons

who are possibly Communists.

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

We've got a baboon gap?

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I R Cliff Lee?

I Am C.C.!

Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.

by Rejuvenile on Dec 10, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

correction

I Am Big Unit!

Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.

by Rejuvenile on Dec 10, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

With the Yankees having potentially three southpaws in their rotation...

if Pettitte comes back, I would have to give them the edge over the Red Sox lefty-heavy line-up.

I was pulling for the Rangers in that bidding war, but I’m assuming Lee signs that shiny new contract before the day is over.

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Splits

Cliff Lee Career
vs. R: 3.82 FIP
vs. L: 3.60 FIP

CC Sabbatha Career
vs. R: 3.69 FIP
vs. L: 2.92 FIP

Andy Pettitte Career
vs. R: 3.79
vs. L: 3.18

What’s scary is that even though the Yankees have multiple lefties, they aren’t necessarily susceptible to a R heavy lineup. When you acquire the best pitchers in the game, they’re just really freaking good regardless.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Screw the AL east

Well just Bos and NY

but still

if they get Agonz, Lee and Crawford
ffs

by jealousblues on Dec 9, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

sadly

I could see him actually sticking in that roster, either as #5 starter or swingman. Oh well, he’s probably only going to be replacement-level anyhow.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Dec 9, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

he really looks like brad thompson, part deux.

he has like a 4.5 k/9 rate, never walks anybody. his groundball numbers are good but not good enough to keep him going into the majors. he’s 24 and just completed his first real tour of AA.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Dec 9, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Another Luis Perdomo loss and find. . .

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Dec 9, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn't the draft over?

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Truthfully, he's always out there.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

wait. we passed

Damn you Cardinals!

Fire John Mozeliak

by purple_haze on Dec 9, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know why...

they wouldn’t give Smith a chance. Our third base depth is: 1) Reconstructed Ankle; 2) Trade Bait; 3) Right Fielder.

I think I might pay $25,000 for another option in ST.

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps they feel

that Carpenter is better insurance.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

who knows.

but why don’t they feel the same about 3B as we do? it’s obvious to everyone BUT the front office that 3B is an issue.

hey Mo: theriot at 2B, boog at SS.
KEEP BRENDAN RYAN.

by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 9, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

no! he's progressing nicely ahead of schedule

we’re set

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

i don't think 3B is an obvious issue

David Freese, Tyler Greene, and perhaps Allen Craig is a pretty good combination to bet on

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 9, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess that would be okay...

he’s probably equivalent or better than Smith.

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I HATE when we pass

Im not sure why, but I love the rule V draft

at least its something to talk about

by jealousblues on Dec 9, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Thounts on the Rule 5 this year...

1) we didn’t take Marquez Smith
2) No one took Marquez Smith
3) We lost Brian Boderick… eh
4) We took Jean Mijares in the AAA phase (another lefty)

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I think you mean

wishful thounting.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 9, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

rrgh

typos… =)

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the laugh.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 9, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

lolol

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Dec 9, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

The guy Ks 12/9...

and weighs 149 pounds. Impressive.

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

wishful thinking: Boog stays?

Orioles acquire JJ Hardy

Padres acquire J. Bartlett

Pirates select SS w/ 1st pick in Rule 5

and these were said to be the suitors for B. Ryan. Perhaps Minnesota would come into play as insurance if they speak nihongo about as well as Billy Beane/A’s. Maybe Colorado plans on putting Fowler and Cargo in the OF and five infielders… To be honest, I’m not seeing very many matches out there right now.

Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!

by timmycardinals on Dec 9, 2010 10:03 AM EST reply actions  

boog for 3B?

i know that boog hasn’t played much 3rd base, but if the cards feel confident w/ skip at 2nd and theriot at SS, would boog at 3B be a decent option?

/preparing for backlash

hey Mo: theriot at 2B, boog at SS.
KEEP BRENDAN RYAN.

by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 9, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Not at all

that would be a disaster, have you seen Boog hit?

Fire John Mozeliak

by purple_haze on Dec 9, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Has ANYONE seen Feliz or Miles hit?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Dec 9, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Not in the last two years.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Worst offensive infield ecer

And that’s with pujols at first

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Keep Boog!

by VolsnCards5 on Dec 9, 2010 10:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Coles, Hemond, Cromer, Cooper

/justsayin’

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Cooper, Draper, Sterling, Price?

Talented…but the numbers don’t match the talent

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by Dttl89 on Dec 9, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

No, no, no!!!

If Boog is in the lineup he sure as HELL better be at SS. It makes no sense whatsoever to play him anywhere else!!

Jimmy Ballgame for 2011 RFer!!!

by cardzfanbub on Dec 9, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Are the Rays planning to stick with Brignac?

If not, I would still consider them a potential trade partner. I know they’re predominantly looking for bullpen help, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Friedman takes a look at Boog as an alternative at SS.

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

i do believe so

thats why they were so willing to trade bartlett. i guess he can field, cus he didnt hit much last year

by zeruko on Dec 9, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

so, brignac is their version of boog....

sometimes, i just don’t get you guys. you’re all on the ‘keep boog’ bandwagon like i am, but when 3B is an option, you guys shoot that down.

hey Mo: theriot at 2B, boog at SS.
KEEP BRENDAN RYAN.

by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 9, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

He doesn't hit enough for third

And we have options at third. And his defensive skill set would be under-utilized at 3rd. Just to name a few reasonss. If we are going to keep him, we need to use him appropriately, otherwise it’s pointless

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Keep Boog!

by VolsnCards5 on Dec 9, 2010 12:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Because SS's who glove it up but don't hit won't kill your offense

No-bat third basemen on the other hand…

Besides, Boog is valuable precisely because he’s an ace SS. SS and 3rd are different beasts and that D may not transfer.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Dec 9, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

i think he hit more than bartlett

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twatter

by prophetjohn on Dec 9, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

i see him coming to ST with the cardinals

if he doesn’t win his job back, he’s traded by the deadline

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Dec 9, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you really just suggest

that Crawford isn’t as good as Kenny Lofton or Marquis Grissom? And was your analysis really limited to the number of walks each received during their respective careers? Lofton never once had a 6 WAR year; Crawford’s already had 2. And Crawford right now has more career WAR than Grissom. If Crawford is able to play as long as Lofton did, Crawford will easily have the better career and will, in all likelihood, be worth his contract. The comparison right now w/ Grissom is way off. Crawford is far and away better than Grissom ever was.

by chuckb on Dec 9, 2010 10:08 AM EST reply actions  

I think he said...

CC isn’t as good as Lofton or Raines and doesn’t walk as much as Grissom. All of those statements seem true. According to FG Lofton had a couple seven win seasons another sixer and a 5.9.

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

no, I didn't suggest that carl crawford was worse than marquis grissom

I suggested he walked less than marquis grissom. I realize the “even” is doing a lot of work, but give me the benefit of the doubt, here, I know where to look on baseball-reference as much as anybody else.

yes, I did suggest that kenny lofton, who had two 7 WAR seasons per bWAR, was better than carl crawford. lofton seems pretty easy to eyeball here, even without the omnibus stats—from 1992 to 1999 he had an OBP-heavy OPS+ of 114 and was a gold glove center fielder, while crawford post-devil-rays-internship has a slugging-heavier OPS+ of 113 and is a gold glove left fielder. lofton was an even better baserunner, too, it’s not very close between the two of them.

by DanUpBaby on Dec 9, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok

I’m ok w/ Lofton being better. I didn’t see the 7 win seasons.

The focus on his walks vis-a-vis Grissom is still baffling considering we are just talking about 1 element of their respective games.

by chuckb on Dec 9, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I was suggesting why he might be worse than the players he evokes

it’s because his walk rate is not very good at all. that’s an answer.

by DanUpBaby on Dec 9, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Lofton in his prime>crawford

Though I do thinks it’s close. Grissom was always fun to watch

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Keep Boog!

by VolsnCards5 on Dec 9, 2010 10:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm surprised no one bothered to compare him to

Rickey (not Branch). Some power, a lot of speed…he plays in the OF…..hunh, hunh? I mean, I know he doesn’t steal like Rickey (no one does, anymore), and I don’t think he talks about himself in the third person…

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 9, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

rickey

walked a ton…more than he struck out

by zeruko on Dec 9, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Rickey was dominant

Has he become underrated? I think so.

1.14.10, the day I went green.

by njnick on Dec 9, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely

He has the label “best leadoff hitter of all time,” but lots of people just think that means a scrappy dude with speed who hit for a high average. He was much better than just being a good player in that mold.

by mojowo11 on Dec 9, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

One of my favorite (paraphrased) quotes from Bill James:

“Someone asked me whether I thought that Rickey Henderson was a Hall of Famer. I said, if you could somehow split him into two people, you’d have two Hall of Famers.”

Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.

by Rejuvenile on Dec 10, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Stan was the same way

but his K/BB ratio was redonkulis…. .435! Rickey’s was .774.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 9, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm a supporter

He had a very impressive first half of a career, and a pretty effective second half. Very few years where wasn’t at least average.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Dec 9, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

The nomadic journey he took from 2002 onward...

probably caused many fans to forget just how fantastic he was during the 90’s with some good Cleveland teams.

He’s like a mildly poor man’s Rickey Henderson, which I feel is the best compliment I can bestow on a leadoff man.

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Theres a link to the right that says "Steve Phillips' Fix My Team: Cardinals"

it could be entertainment, but i’m scared to click.

Fire John Mozeliak

by purple_haze on Dec 9, 2010 10:16 AM EST reply actions  

oh wait

he said absolutely nothing. Which, I guess, is better than the alternative.

Fire John Mozeliak

by purple_haze on Dec 9, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Which would be signing Mo Vaughn.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 10, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

hehe

he pronounced Mozeliak “Moziliok”

Sometimes I think LaRussa is sharin his booze stash with Mo...

by white088 on Dec 9, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

awesome

boog at shortstop makes the starting pitching a lot better

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 9, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

captain obvious strikes again

Pujols likely won’t negotiate during season
well no shit Sherlock

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 10:19 AM EST reply actions  

Every time I read that name...

it reminds me of Chubby Rain from ‘Bowfinger’.

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Eddie Murphy, Steve Martin

Think of this as an errand. Your errand is to run across the freeway until I yell, “Cut!”

‘Chubby Rain’ was the name of the film Steve Martin was trying to get produced.

Not a particularly great movie, which is probably a description that some would use to characterize BJ Rains’ reporting skills.

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

BJ ReadAndImmediateNauseaStrikes

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Ironically, Pujols has stated just that in the past.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

WHY DO I HAVE ALL THESE SPOONS!

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 9, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

i want to understand the joke!

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

...

Link

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Is possessing 10,000 spoons common in Canada?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Obviously.

Lots of ice and snow = lots of snowcones.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

WHY CAN'T I HOLD ALL THESE LIMES

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Dec 9, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

is this joke explained by an alanis morissette song too?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

This isn't a shakesbeer blog...

leave irony out of it.

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

But I have

irony-poor tired blood

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 9, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

HOW IS HE A SPORTS WRITER?!?!?!?!

BJRains: Cardinals lost Broderick in Rule 5 Draft this morning. Read about him and the Minor Leaguer they selected here: http://bit.ly/fNDSX5

Dustin_Mattison: @BJRains In the minor league phase of the Rule 5, a player does not have to stay at a certain level.

BJRains: @Dustin_Mattison oh thanks. Wasn’t clean on that. (2 minutes ago from web in reply to Dustin_Mattison).

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Clear case of nepotism.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

HOLY SHIT

Carp’s getting more Ink RIGHT NOW

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 10:38 AM EST reply actions  

src FSNMW

fb
i love technology

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

..

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

so weird...

Carp doesn’t strike me as the tattoo type, but he has a sleeve on his leg?

by longhornscardinals on Dec 9, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

you're kidding, right?

look at this
/shameless linking to myself

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

He wasn't until he suddenly was.

I think most people get tattoos before their thirties. Carp came to the game late, but just like with baseball, his goal is to dominate.

by spants on Dec 9, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

They emerged around the same time as his anger management issues.

He was once such a nice young boy.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

He looks like a serial killer there

i’m kinda glad he’s ANGRY, gives you some warning

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

He looks as if he's just seen breasts for the first time.

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's a few:

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

;=8)

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 9, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

ew

that’s not how they’re supposed to look

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Dec 9, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

oh, cow breasts

carry on

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Dec 9, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That's one large cow

Enough ribs to feed an army.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

You give a coupla gallons of moo juice every day...

….and see cow perky yer udders are after a while…

:=8/

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 9, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Now u guys know why I stock up on Udder Balm....

;=8)

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 9, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

you're a girl cow?

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Dec 10, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

No, but....

…the udders come with the physiology, can’t be helped.

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 10, 2010 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Kind of like that cartoon

“Barnyard”? The main character is a male bovine with full udder/teats who walks on his hind legs.

by ArkansasTravs on Dec 10, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

There is no warning

for The Spanish Inquisition!

NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!!!

by The Spanish Inquisition on Dec 9, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

This was unexpected.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

just had a lecture on the Spanish Inquistion today

apparently they were quite expected.
But still, nice try Y2S

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I told my son,

that at first mention of the Spanish Inquisition in World History, he’s to stand up and say “NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!” My wife wasn’t pleased, because we both know the little smart ass is going to do it.

NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!!!

by The Spanish Inquisition on Dec 9, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i hurd jennifer and ben broke up~

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Dec 9, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

ooes noes.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

who and what now?

idgaf

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

This seems like the fastest winter in regards to signing

Everyone is signing before Christmas. Last couple years it has been getting dragged out

by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 9, 2010 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

By design, wasn't it?

This was the first year the period of time a team had to sign their players who would be free agents was shortened to 5 days (from 15) or something like that – I thought the reasoning was so that there would be more action at the winter meetings.

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, what's up with that?

boog at shortstop makes the starting pitching a lot better

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 9, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

in bed.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Dec 9, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Hard On

tee-hee

Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.

by Rejuvenile on Dec 10, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Geez,

I remember thinking he was awesome when I was a kid, but I didn’t realize exactly how awesome Rock Raines was.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Dec 9, 2010 10:51 AM EST reply actions  

And he did it all while hopped up on goofballs!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Well this isn't one of Bernie's better columns...

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bernie-miklasz/article_42b939e7-298f-5119-88c0-83b4d3923952.html

I get that LaRussa has one – that’s obvious. But there doesn’t seem to be any acknowledgment of the role that Luhnow’s prospects played in delivering the 2009 division title, and the complete debacle of 2010 when La Russa was calling the shots.

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2010 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

He seemed to make the argument

that having Aaron Miles and Randy Winn on the team were good things last year (neither were truly awful, but their complete mediocrity easily could have been filled by young players). And no mention of acquiring literally the worst offensive player in baseball to play an offensive-oriented position?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

This is an analysis that requires something more than a column.

But, I don’t think anyone here can disagree with this statement:

And Mozeliak has juice, too. Mozeliak rearranged the structure and reduced Luhnow’s clout. La Russa and Mozeliak have partnered in a close working relationship, with the GM securing the players preferred by TLR. If La Russa wants Lance Berkman, then Mozeliak signs Berkman. If La Russa wants Ryan Theriot, then the Cardinals obtain Theriot.

As you point out, Bernie leaves out. “If TLR wants Aaron Miles, then Mozeliak signs Miles. If TLR wants Randy Winn, then Mozeliak signs Winn. If TLR wants Mike MacDougall, then Mozeliak signs MacDougall. If TLR wants Pedro Feliz, Mozeliak signs Feliz. If TLR wants Mark DeRosa for three months, then Mozeliak trades for him.”

Also, what Bernie leaves out is the fact that there won’t be many Berkman-type signings if Pujols is making $28MM. Bernie also seems to have missed the changing philosophy in MLB. A club has to give up a lot more prospects to get a top-tier player via trade. Nowadays, clubs must give up prospects to acquire a top player via trade.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I was talking to a Rangers fan last week

he mentioned how upset he was when the traded Tex and how he wished he could go back in time and tell himself to shut up.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

speaking of rangers

whats this michael young talk all about? i imagine we would have to get tex to eat a ton of money in a potential deal

by zeruko on Dec 9, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Not happening

He’s just too expensive.

by mojowo11 on Dec 9, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

And old.

And horrid defensively, Jeter-esque GG notwithstanding.

And his bat is very much a product of his home ballpark.

And his 2009 season is an outlier among the last 5 years.

Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.

by Rejuvenile on Dec 10, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

The Pujols conundrum

Another thing that this brings to light, for me anyway, is how the organization looks at the Pujols deal. The way that the Cardinals have now changed their messaging approach to working out a deal points to after the 2011 season instead of before Spring training. To me, it sounds like that they might be taking their last shot with Pujols on the team for 2011 and gathering as many veterans to make a push to win. Spending money now, knowing that they will not be able to sign him after this year, then start the rebuild. Or maybe if things fall apart before the trade deadline, they trade him to the Angels. Perhaps they shared this with TLR, getting him to come back for the last year of AP before TLR retires. This is getting a little too conspiracy theory for me now, so that is all.

by dralexp on Dec 9, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

I believe 2011 could very well be TLR and Pujols’s last season with the Cardinals.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

That's an awesome shirt.

But, alas, no larges left.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously

Who runs out of larges? Did you want to sell shirts or not?

by mojowo11 on Dec 9, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

As someone who once worked in a screen-printer's shop,

I can tell you that folks usually order a ton of larges, and for good reason. Perhaps this print is on sale because they sold out of larges.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Unless they've go XXL, I won't go near them.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 9, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I once printed a XXXXXXL.

I’m not joking. I was terrified I wasn’t getting the screen centered on the shirt, so I went to my boss and told him of my worries. He said, “I’ll let you in a on a trade secret. On shirts this large, no one can tell if it’s centered or not, so just get it pretty close.”

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahahahahahahahaha

That was a large individual. and what your boss said was priceless. When you have a 52 inch chest, it’s hard to get wear anything other than XXL comfortably.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 9, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

there's a script ohio one, WTF

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I keep being messaged by middle-aged NKOTB fans.

Apparently there is someone out there called spants5 and they keep leaving the 5 off. Only 9 year old spants would want to discuss NKOTB.

I just keep blocking them individually.

by spants on Dec 9, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

go private

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Astros finally land a fish...

unfortunately he stinks.

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2010 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

As do Bud Norris and Brian Moehler

but, apparently, the Cardinals are unaware of this.

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't worry.

Berkman’s going to tell us all their secrets. TIME’S UP NORRIS! RULES CHANGE, BITCH!

by dronemc on Dec 9, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Good bye, Broderick

I thought he was an incredibly underrated cardinal prospect. I guess the Nationals didn’t…

Sometimes I think LaRussa is sharin his booze stash with Mo...

by white088 on Dec 9, 2010 11:47 AM EST reply actions  

LOOK UP

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yuck

link

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 9, 2010 12:11 PM EST reply actions  

Ya, that's a BS article.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

ahahaaaa yeah right

bahahaaa

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

My understanding is the Cubs couldn't afford a Pujols contract anytime soon

They just got turned down on a request for 200mil for stadium improvements. Apparently the Rickets can’t afford to make the improvements themselves. And they have some bad contracts in Ramirez, Soriano, and Zambrano clogging the cash flow. Although Z looked to me like he figured something out at the end of last season.

The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series

by Walking Underwear on Dec 9, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

they can afford it

but they want someone else to pay for it

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Ramirez is off the books after the 2011 season.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

probably old news, but

i was just comparing holliday’s and crawford’s numbers and realized that holliday’s CAREER OBP is nearly .390. HFS™ why isn’t he batting in front of albert???

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 9, 2010 12:21 PM EST reply actions  

we've established the because TLR..

remember those few games when he did hit before Albert?
or those few games that had the same lineup four days in a row?
those are anomalies

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Berkman's career .409 OBP should warrant the spot before Albert next season at least.

Which is why he will be batting 5th instead.

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, between berky and holliday someone should be batting second.

i like holliday because he’s a better baserunner, but either way.

theriot
berkman
pujols
holliday
colby
freese
yadi
pitcher
schu

that actually looks pretty damn good. if its not MH or LB, who hits second? colby?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 9, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

my mind read

colby
cheese

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 9, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

probably old news, but

i was just comparing holliday’s and crawford’s numbers and realized that holliday’s CAREER OBP is nearly .390. HFS™ why isn’t he batting in front of albert???

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 9, 2010 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

Ya, you just said this,

making it old news.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

DAMNIT

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 9, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

how the hell...

can he protect pujols if he’s in front of him ?!?!?!

by zeruko on Dec 9, 2010 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

Can't tell if serious?

The only way to protect Pujols, is to have runners on base when he comes up.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

And snipers.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

And a Pujolsmobile

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That'd do it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

we can clone stuff right?

he should probably be retired by the time he starts to fall apart (ala Dolly the Sheep)

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Dec 9, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

If he is, in fact, a maching....

then surely Luhnow has more at an underground bunker some place in the Dominican?

….

Right?

….

Tune in for this and more on next week’s installment of Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

We've got Monk on this already.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

how about

Berkman 2nd
Holliday 3rd
Pujols 4th ???

You fit into me
like a hook into an eye

a fish hook
an open eye

by Red Blazer on Dec 9, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Then who would protect the 2nd Pujols?

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Dec 9, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Pujols

duh

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

By getting on base.

Makes walking Pujols riskier because that would increase the number of runners on base.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

No Zaun

Cards reportedly not fans of Rush

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

i saw something on mlbtr

that the cards were looking for pitching depth. i thought we had that covered already?

/obligatory linky

hey Mo: theriot at 2B, boog at SS.
KEEP BRENDAN RYAN.

by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 9, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Pitching depth is a mirage.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

You can never have enough pitching depth...

especially with Jaime coming off 163 IP after TJ surgery and Kyle Lohse’s Sidney Ponson-esque career arc and European motocross injuries.

Also, these two excellent seasons from Carp should not allow us to forget his history entirely.

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

With TLR

Pitching depth would equal 41-man pitcher roster. Never enough…

Sent from my iPad.

by Yadi4 on Dec 9, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

That Zucks.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

This gives me the feeling that they're going to "go in hard" (as Tim Dierkes would say)...

for Bengie.

My prediction is that, if he does play in 2011, it will be with the Cardinals.

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe but

It Zucks that he’s not Werth it.

Sent from my iPad.

by Yadi4 on Dec 9, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

damn

boog at shortstop makes the starting pitching a lot better

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 9, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

a pessimistic view.

Oh dear Lance
On you we took a chance.
Your knees broke
Now our lineup’s a joke.

Note: Sheckie doesn’t share this view.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Dec 9, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Your best work

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Ode to Chris Carpenter
There once was a pitcher named Chris
Who sometimes got hitters to miss
But more often, I’d say
They put balls in play
And Boog threw them out with much bliss.

 
Ode to Jason Marquis
Jason Marquis will soon be a Nat
After once wearing the birds on the bat
His teams make the post-season
But then for some reason
They don’t let him pitch during that

 
Ode to Yadi2
There’s a VEB’er named Yadi2
Who keeps track of everything we do
He helps set the themes
With his glossary of memes
For all of us to refer to.

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Dec 9, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait... how is meme pronounced?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Meem

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I've always though "Mah-May!"

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait... No I had not... I thought "Meh-May!"

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

That's weird

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I like it better, so it's here to stay.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

maim

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 9, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

this was what I originally thought

and someone told me “mem”
looking back now, I wonder if that was his idea of a hilarious joke.

by clank on Dec 9, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

i thought so too

until i heard meme on a youtube video… i still say Meh-May when reading meme though… old habits die hard

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 9, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

i knew someone who pronoucned it mee-mee

never had any idea what he was on about

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought the same thing

wikipedia says it rhymes with “cream”

by clank on Dec 9, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

How the hell have you been pronouncing it?

Me-me?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

yes

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

What the hell is wrong with you people

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

we are old?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 9, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

i'll admit that when i wrote the yadi2 limerick i had to google "how to pronounce meme"

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 9, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I learned phonetics?

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Stupid phonetics

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

It's derived from gene

just wondering how you pronounce that one

by brackenthebox on Dec 9, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

mi mi

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 9, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Memé

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

the m is silent

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Dec 9, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

This is as confusing as trying to tell people that Treme was a good show.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

how many are there?

jason marquis remains my favorite

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 9, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

wow.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 9, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

it's been about a year since your first one

maybe you could make a fanpost of them all. (i would rec it)

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Dec 9, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

that sounds like an excellent idea.

i will try to do this over christmas break. maybe i will add a BRAND NEW NEVER BEFORE SEEN LIMERICK! to entice viewers.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 9, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

You have a Christmas break at your firm?

I should submit this idea to our partners.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHahahahahhhhaaahh

no.

but I don’t plan to work on Christmas. and Christmas Eve is “a firm holiday” in theory.

i really just meant i will be at my dad’s house and my bf won’t be there, so i will probably need something to do.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 9, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I was going to say,

that would be awesome. Sometimes I wish I had become a teacher so my entire life would be spent on the semester schedule, including Christmas Break.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

fixed

so my entire life would be spent on the semester schedule welfare

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 9, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

We have a lot of teachers on here

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Not surprising

As a community, we are nothing if not pedantic.

by mojowo11 on Dec 9, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm just kidding. my best friend is a teacher.

she works her ass off – almost as much as i do. i have a ton of respect for her, and i always wanted to be a teacher growing up. but she has a second job and still lives paycheck to paycheck. its a tough road.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 9, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, the old "my best friend is ____" defense.

You’re an anti-teachite, admit it!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

no bf & looking for something to do you say?

haaaavvvvveee you met GDM?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Shameless

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

if you fail to try, you try to fail

or something

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

are you hitting on him?

you’re showing your level of blood alcohol content and it’s hilarious

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 10, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

oh feck you

i’ll hit on whomever i damn well like

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

We know.

We read about what happened last week.

Greedy bastard.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 10, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I genuninely can't / don't want to remember

do tell…

(runs and cowers)

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe it was the week before.

Your female friend. Long single.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 10, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

oh right

yeah… awkward.

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

go ahead

it’s funny as hell

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 10, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

haaaaaaave you met gdm?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

i'm way less pathetic irl

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

That remains to be seen

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

you'll see!

you’ll allllll seee!

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

When you...

TAKE OVER ZE VORLD!!!!?!!?!!?!??!!!!?

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

i don't really want to take over the world

i’d settle for a hottie, a car, some B’s & a job that doesn’t make me want to kill myself

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

are you a wizard?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

forgive me

what are “Bs”

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 10, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

bacon, brownies, bourbon

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

that all sounds fantastic

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 10, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

it is, it really, really is

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

in bed

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

i'll have to take your word for it

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, c'mon

They don’t lie.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 10, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

i'll admit to wanting to rule the world

in the past, but now that i’m older & life’s brought my dreams down a peg or 50, i no longer wish to rule the world

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

i love you

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Have to say, given that Diner signed for $1.1m

and George Sherrill just signed for the Braves for $1.2m, I’m pretty disappointed we weren’t in on Sherrill. He’s only a touch more expensive than Brian Tallet, and he’s pretty clearly a much better lefty specialist than Tallet, with a 3.01 career xFIP, a 2.40 FIP and a 4.2K/BB rate against left-handers.

Of course, because of his “proven closer” history I have zero confidence that TLR would use him properly (as a LOOGY, and not, say, a general set-up guy for all eventualities) and we’d end up seeing him pitching to right-handers in high-leverage situations but still, he’s one of the two best LOOGYs on the FA market this year and signed for F all. We should’ve been in on that.

As for Crawford, I’d say it’s an overpay, but not an egregious one. My one concern is that he’s not really suited to LF in Boston (where the Monster might kind of negate his extreme speed advantage), so they might need to put him in CF or RF to get the best value out of the guy. All that said, I’d say 29-year-old Crawford is no better a player than 29-year old Matt Holliday was, and probably no more likely to age gracefully, so perhaps the Holliday deal is looking better every day.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Dec 9, 2010 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

I'm glad we didn't get him

Like you said, because since he was once a “proven closer,” Tony wouldn’t be able to help pitching him against all kinds of righty batters. I think Tallet will do fine.

by mojowo11 on Dec 9, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

We're #1!

MLB TV ratings for 2010

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 2:07 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Apparently, the Reds fans all watch from home.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

so we have great ratings for TV, great stadium attendance

why can’t we have a massive payroll?

Fire John Mozeliak

by purple_haze on Dec 9, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

well for starters

Advertisers don’t pay that much until after you have ratings. This should mean the team may see a bump in advertising income in the next few years. But I doubt if the Cardinals are pulling in that much bank from the Ted Drewes, Sonic, helitech, and John Biel commercials that FSN are currently running.

On top of that, we have great stadium attendance, but only mid level prices.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Disagree....

Cards were well above the median. Ninth overall.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you honestly believe

That they are bringing in a lot of money for those cheese commercials? Have of them have broadcasters in them, or they are advertising the Cardinals or FSN.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

That's not the part I was disagreeing with.

I was talking about the ticket prices. This gets brought up with some regularity, and I believe it’s due to the Cardinals referring to themselves as a mid-level team. In many ways, they ARE a mid-level team. But ticket prices isn’t one of those ways, with the exception of premium tickets. Those are a damn steal in St. Louis.

As far as the advertising revenue goes, I think they’re probably doing okayish. They’ll do even better when they move back to KMOX.

by spants on Dec 9, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Whenever we delve into just what type of franchise the Cardinals are,

I feel obliged to bring up the $16MM in annual debt payments for Busch III, just for perspective.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

How much of the money is going towards paying for the stadium?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

:shrug:

the public has paid less on the Cardinal’s stadium than any other major sports venue besides PNC over the last decade. But I do not know what percentage of their gross income goes towards paying for the stadium.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

upper mid-level

lower-upper level. 72 percentile. Their payroll is in line with those teams around them.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

i mean, if we can keep up these kinds of numbers in a recession

i don’t see why we can’t field 110 MM in

Fire John Mozeliak

by purple_haze on Dec 9, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I had no idea the Angels ratings were so bad.

Wow.

Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.

by The Continental on Dec 9, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

#3 in radio ratings too

That should go up, when they get off of the little 550 this year

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

And the Nationals got the money to pay Jayson Werth where?

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Dec 9, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh that?

They sold their souls… the market for that is huge right now.

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

selling your soul

isn’t that a requirement to work in washington?

by Hootie Who on Dec 9, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Their owners are estimated to be worth between $3 & $5 billion.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I understand that.

But I don’t understand why they didn’t spend the money on someone younger and for such length. I guess I am not grasping the concept of the lack of allure the Nationals possess, but why didn’t they throw this at Holliday for instance?

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Dec 9, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

they had a 149 percent increase

and are in 28th place… WOW

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 9, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

once a cardinal fan, always a cardinal fan!

boog at shortstop makes the starting pitching a lot better

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 9, 2010 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

That was officially the #1 VEB exchange of all-time.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Dec 9, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

At least since I've been reading it.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 9, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

weird

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Your tellin' me

how the f’ did they get… brain fails at maths… ALOT of rec’s between them

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Us*

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

says the drunk man

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not...

wait, yes, yes i am.

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

a man? or drunk?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

both

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

are you sure?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

That enough for ya?

;=8)

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 9, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

tunes.

think Eye of the Tiger, only not Eye of the Tiger.

by clank on Dec 9, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Final Cuntdown?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions   5 recs

whoopsie daisy

forgot an O there.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah "forgot"

i know your game

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I accidently type "clear cunters" on a router at least once a week

seems to be a theme.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

our singer

once sang “when its cold out side, ive got the cunth of May”
during My Girl once

by jealousblues on Dec 9, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmmmm

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that the one with Jenna Jameson as a super sexy fighter pilot?

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Laughing.Really.Hard.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 9, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

"Whisper in the Night" by Death Medicine.

Might be hard to find, but you should be able to do it.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Dec 9, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

You're so creepy

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Youtube video of the day

Girl freaks out over pizza

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

not that funny and honestly look staged

at least the first part… why the fuck would you be recording a woman texting?

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 9, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

OT Major League News

Willie Mays Hayes won’t be stealing bases for awhile.
And hopefully never be in another movie.

by swmofan on Dec 9, 2010 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

they are pixie dust

covered veggie-vampires now. You’re cool.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

bah - minimum security...

He’ll probably be allowed some sort of work-release.

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

sushi, champagne...

free hookers…

the funny part is, he’s in there for tax evasion, and now he’s living off the taxpayer’s dime.

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

OH THE IRONY

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Irony?

or Master Plan?

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Like rain?

Have we come full circle now?

Stupid offseason.

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Dec 9, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Roads are paid for by Gasolines Taxes

Schools are paid for by property taxes, this guy hates entitlement programs, and the defense budget

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Dec 10, 2010 2:19 AM EST up reply actions  

#6org

Link

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2010 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

$3.5 million a year for our cleanup hitter?!

That’s what we call a steal

Also: Links that don’t open in a new tab make mysterui something something

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

go crazy?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

DON'T MIND IF I DO

DLKJLSKJGLASJGALKJDKLAJGLADSJGLKSAJGKADGLASDKGDALSGJGAS

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I've not clicked a link in years.

Right click. open in a new tab.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

middle button

cut out the middle man

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

indeed

the best way to go about it.

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Dec 9, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

or apple+click

for us mac people

"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial

by Shi on Dec 9, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

my life is changed forever

I can’t believe I did not know this.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

it's just a firmware update.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

aaaand... done. Firmware updated.

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh jesus

Ive been living life all wrong!

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Dec 9, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Also: mouse gestures

Seriously, people, mouse gestures will change the way your browse the interwebs.

by mojowo11 on Dec 9, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

That decreases efficiency by 100%!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

me too

but here at work, my browser is old and doesn’t have tabs. Since I work for the government, I cant download an update myself and instead have to kill 7 trees just to get someone to update it for me.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 9, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

NO HE CAN NOT

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sorry

I guess he cannot because fritz said so.

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Dec 9, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, what Fritz said

Flash drives are not approved for use in government institutions. Thats how things like wiki leaks happen, or something like that.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 9, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Curse Julian Assange

and his massive network of flash drives

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

why not this?

“No sir, that’s not a flash drive. It’s my Limited Edition Chewbacca the Wookie mascot.”

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Bam!

linky (safe to just click on it. I got your back)

Sensitive computers should not have usb ports.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

works on so many levels...

a) it’s rather discreet – moreso than a giant wookie sticking out the side of your laptop
b) it’s got multiple functionalities – Alton Brown would approve
& c) it’s borderline secret agent-ish, perfect for the government employee on your Christmas shopping list.

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

wait... government worker is spending his work time on VEB...

it’s all making so much more sense now…

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

while working

its amazing what multi-tasking can do for you. Could be worse, I could be playing on facebook

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 9, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

This is true.

Worked with a lady who got dinged for watching videos on Hulu and playing Farmville all the time.

She claimed it wasn’t her fault… that those sites weren’t blocked by our Internet Police guys. (and before you ask, yes, she called them “internet police guys”)

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

stuff like this is what makes me block sites like that

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

i thought you were a physical therapist?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

(whistles)

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

of course n...

oh….

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Or private employees contracted to the government.

Watching scoot’s web surfing.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

talk about wasteful government spending

I’m not nearly exciting enough for that

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 9, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I thankfully do not do any monitoring anymore

God was that a never-ending, taskless job.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe I am the one monitoring you now

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 9, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

dun-dun-dunnnnn

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Firefox mobile.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

yes

and the fact that you can do this is why it’s generally considered ’bad practice" for designers to force links in a new window (that and the fact that it “breaks” the back button).

by brackenthebox on Dec 9, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

This is why the Adam Dunn contract made no sense to me.

The White Sox could have had Cust or Thome for much, much less to DH to then invested their money in other positions.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn.

Nix to M’s

The only reason I bring this up is because I’m slightly disappointed the Nats didn’t sign him so that they could feature Laynce Nix in LF and Jayson Werth in RF – creating the most extraneous usage of the letter Y in first name OF combo in Major League history.

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 3:36 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

OH JACK Z

YOU SO CRAZY

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

OT: Maybe Tolkien was on to something

Hobbits were here.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 9, 2010 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

Only 1 Guy to Call About That....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5KeUMxyAwM

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 9, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

The Lord of the Rings: The Origin of Aaron Miles

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

bigger animals ate smaller animals that couldn't properly defend themselves

WTF scientists? When did they start outsourcing research to BJ Rains & Co.?

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I was just thinking..

how in the hell did the hobbits survive so long in Middle Earth with so many dangerous creatures 30x their size running/flying around?

Gandalf?

'Hold my stones!'
"Ernie Hayes is up there playing with his organ again." - Mike Shannon

by Heisenberg on Dec 9, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

isolation

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta love the Pogues

it finally feels like christmas

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

ah, "Fairytale of New York" is a great Christmas song

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Dec 9, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I figured all of those cockney chimney sweeps would signal the season.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Films have lied

they don’t burst into song half as much as you might expect.

And theres that whole ‘child exploitation’ thing…

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, good.

Don’t be so awesome and hit all those dingers, Colby. Suck more.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

wow...

same time and everything

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Same time...

except axlfitz was firts

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm sure it's an alphabetical order thing =)

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh keep telling yourself that...

the content of that post makes me ill. They should’ve sent La Russa to the Reds with his buddy Jock.

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

You know... a couple years back I used to really like LaRussa

Now, I agree totally.

Looks like Colby in the 2-spot followed by a 3-4-5 of Pujols, Holliday, and Puma… Holliday needs a good nickname that starts with “P.”

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Getting really old..

just exacerbates one’s worst traits and diminishes the filter that moderates behavior.

People should be fired the day they turn 65 except for Wal-Mart greeters.

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

we could have and alphabetical order

boog
colby
holliday
pujols
puma
molina
mr freeze
theriot
waino

by Hootie Who on Dec 9, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

OLDHULKRADBORN SMASH

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Skip should be more like Colby, not the other way around.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

NEEDZ MOAR GRIT

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Fortunately for you there's only 20 some odd days left

So the chances of news becoming even worse is fairly slim.

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

6'2, 200lbs, proven ability to hit it 450 ft, iso of 200+ at age 23...

let’s change something!

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Beware fathers bearing comments.

I really don’t trust what Tony Rasmus is saying. And neither does another commenter over there.

HBTexas says:
December 2, 2010 at 4:19 pm
I’m not questioning anyone’s candor, just the interpretation. I absolutely believe they want Colby to learn how to take the outside pitch to LF. I’m just skeptical that it’s the ONLY thing they want him to do. I’m sure they don’t want to lose his RBI/HR production… I do believe they want him to be a better situational hitter, want him to make better use of his speed, hit for a higher average AND do the things he did before as well.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point

Dad has a way of being hyperbolic

by Merry CRasmus on Dec 9, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Tony Rasmus should shut his mouth.

This type of squawking doesn’t help anyone or anything. In fact, it likely hurts Rasmus’s standing with TLR.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

With the entire organization.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of commentors

I always enjoy those made by WestCoastBirdWatcher

How come he doesn’t come around here anymore?

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

heh

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

heh

boog at shortstop makes the starting pitching a lot better

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 9, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

thank you TBender

this is the only thing that makes sense.

I know people hate TLR around here and love to jump on him at any opportunity (obviously many are valid)
but this just seems like someone was told to work on something and someone is going out of their way to passive aggressively act like thats the ONLY thing they should do.
Either that or this thing is pure bs

by jealousblues on Dec 9, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

80% to left field

is a number I can believe in practice if they are working on hitting the other way.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

this does seem a bit hard to believe.

we shall see, though.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Dec 9, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

what the fuck

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Dec 9, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

This is surely a joke.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

oh my god
I actually went and watched him yeterday and he reminds me of David Eckstein. He is choked up on the bat and just throwing the hands.

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Dec 9, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

The thing is the people actually teach this shit

It’s what Torres was taught, for instance.

I’m not sure this is just irony or joking.

by thepainguy on Dec 9, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Guys on the fast lane were having a field day with this.

Referred to it as

Complete Bullshit
.

1.) Who hits balls 80% to left field? Anyone?
2.) Boog was not working on a onehanded swing last year. He was attempting to hit for more power.

3.) Can we get rid of Tony Rasmus and keep Colby?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

er...

80% the other way i should have said, not “to left field”

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

4th: Why stop lifting the weights?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yadi, but that's no excuse

Boog was trying to hit for more power, but going about it completely wrong (the backspin crap).

by thepainguy on Dec 9, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

ok
Boog was trying to hit for more power, but going about it completely wrong (the backspin crap).

So if this is the case; which it is; does it make any sense for T. Rasmus to say that Colby is now working on that same swing to reduce power?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

It does if the teacher doesn't know what a good swing looks like

I don’t have any trouble believing that Colby is being taught exactly what his dad says he is being taught, which is why it’s so scary.

This makes even more sense given that Colby’s a lefty.

Again, this is exactly what Torres was taught.

by thepainguy on Dec 9, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

i have a problem with it

As Goold pointed out, TLR is known for taking power hitters and turning them into slap hitters.

His dad does have a history of stirring the pot as well.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe we could just ban anyone named "Tony" from ever being in touch with the organization.

Or, alternatively, just sew both their mouts shut and their hands closed into fists.

by dronemc on Dec 9, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

mouts. Is that anything like "youts"?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 9, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

SHIT!

Not that Rasmus couldn’t benefit by learning to take the occasional outside pitch and drive it out the backside gap, but whenever I here of any power hitter trying to slap the ball I get sick.

Tony… and Tony (I’ll let y’all figure which one I’m addressing first)… This will make him a less dangerous hitter in all likelihood. He’s a power hitter everyone. Ya know, a Jim Edmonds type? Edmonds was able to drive the ball the opposite way sometimes, what’s wrong with Rasmus being a primarily pull guy who can keep pitchers honest outside? Singles the other way… so what?

VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009

by redbirdnation8206 on Dec 9, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

younger Edmonds

had great power the other way.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

BS that I can address

“running five miles a day to get quicker”

Jogging builds slow twitch muscle. If anything, he would lose agility from this training approach.

Also, “working just abs” goes along the lines of where people who know nothing about training think that by workin there abdominal muscles they will selectively burn fat around their midline. Doesn’t happen that way.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 9, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I took it as in

the running: just trying to burn calories

ab work: thats the only weight work he’s doing, trying to not build upper body strength.

Though I’m thinking it was all BS now, anyway.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

yes but

by training slow twitch muscle, you increase recruitment of slow twitch muscle thus decreasing recruitment of fast twitch muscle. Lighter, maybe, but less able to recruit fast twitch does not equal quicker.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 9, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

did it say that?

all i read was “running 5 miles a day”

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 9, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he means that suicides and intervals are what he needs to be doing.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 9, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

thats what I was thinking

but wasn’t sure

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 9, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I took from it that he was just trying to drop LBs, so just lighter

which is retarded so much, that I now think it’s too retarded to believe.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

also

does that blog have any credibility?? Who here thinks that Rasmus should hit 6th or 7th??

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 9, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

@JoeStrauss: I can confirm it is Dad Raz’. I can also confirm it’s a hoax.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

more

Uh, yeah. Stand down. RT @bkertz: @JoeStrauss So It was his dad but what his dad was quoted as saying is not true?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 9, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Meanwhile, a second-tier website appreciates the traffic.

What an ass.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, at least VEB held together and didn't completely freak out.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Some, but not a full fledged one...

Only one fanshot and no sigs were changed to state undying love support to Colby.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

i want to see him rank sports writers

including himself

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

He isn't talking about VEB

Never hung out at thecardinalnationblog.com; but publishing this stuff without checking sources is pretty second-tier. And if it is Colby’s dad, to bad you can’t choose your parents.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

It is definitely his dad,

unless someone hacked his account.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah it's his dad

he’s just an ass and I assume thought this would be funny. Sometimes I wonder if Colby is in on the “joke” (re: his dad being a rabblerouser) or if it annoys him. Either way, the kids to scared to answer that question honestly, so it’s rather moot.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

well he should be less of an asshat

reading some of his replies it’s clear he isn’t completely serious. Also being spiteful. No need to make comments like that about Jay, Ryan, Miles and Skip.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I've met 11 year olds more mature than Tony Rasmus

HONEST TO GOD ELEVEN YEAR OLDS.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Azru's banhammer.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

same thing that draws west coast bird watcher

we’ll argue, and we may be wrong, but logic normally wins out.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

and the band hammer comes out when someone is trolling

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Logic

or the best joke about rui’s mom. Either way.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

meme > logic

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm just trying to think

what could he possibly be trying to accomplished by such a stunt?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Spread rumors that the team doesn't know what they are doing?

Even if it’s not true, some folks will use it to further their own doubts.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

i guess

I don’t see how that helps Colby though.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

He's bordering on sociopath.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Marinovich

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

You? Probably nothing.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

rec for you

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

greeeeen

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

why do you think they keep me around?

i’m good for stuff other than jpg, gif & the B’s. i keep certain assholes away

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I was tempted to write "our journalistic integrity"

But I couldn’t not laugh while doing so.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Dec 10, 2010 12:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Why is this reference ringing a bell?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

you know what

you are right, what a dick

this cant help Colby in the clubhouse (well, maybe no one will hear)

by jealousblues on Dec 9, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

i know it's been mentioned, but i can't believe some of you believed this crap with statements such as

1. “What they’re telling me is Colby most likely won’t hit 10 jacks this year but will be more consistent.”
2. Be more like Skip and Brendan and John Jay – two of them suck [at hitting] and one of them was BABIP-dependent

also the comment about Carew is weird since Carew had a .429 career slugging percentage and a .370 wOBA, both of which are far better than slap hitters (thus that he wasn’t really a slap hitter)

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 9, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

don't believe it

it’s not true….

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 10, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Just relax. It's a hoax.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 10, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

thanks

i like heroin - prophetjohn

by vivaelpujols on Dec 10, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

you didn't actually believe that the cardinals were trying to fix his swing

and as a result colby would hit less than 10 homers and look at it as a positive upgrade did you?

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 10, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

you're underselling the cardinals on that one

i feel bad for you though because i may have had a heart attack if i thought this was true

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 10, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Considering what has been said about Rasmus by some in the org in the past, they got me.

I should have better considered the source, though.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Has anyone else seen this?

Cards changing Colby’s physical makeup along with approach at the plate…

Beware, quotes from Colby’s dad follow the clicking of this link.

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

thats fucking moronic.

oh good, more brandan ryan, less jim edmonds. fanfuckingtastic

by zeruko on Dec 9, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh hell
Colby has been working on spraying the ball around the field this offseason via the Big Mac approach. Hasn’t been lifting since the plan is to be a slap hitter so there is no need for the added muscle. The goal I hear is to hit .300 and hit more ground balls and line drives the other way.

Guys, the way to get hits is to try to hit the ball hard. That way it’s harder to make a play on the ball and it’s more likely to get through gaps and to the wall.

I don’t mean trying to hit home runs, but trying to hit doubles worked pretty damn well for Torres.

On the bright side, Colby’s starting to look like a nice pick-up for someone once he’s fully ruined by Big Mac.

Its what Tony (La Russa) has wanted him to do evidently for the last few years. Stop trying to pull the ball and be more like Skip with the other way stuff and working on hitting more ground balls. It is interesting to hear him say he is supposed to inside out everything and hit 80 % of all balls to the left side. Its the one handed swing that Brendan (Ryan) was working on last year. I haven’t watched him hit he has just been telling me about it.

This is some of the stupidest drivel I’ve ever heard.

Guys, you do want to hit the ball where it’s pitched, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to hit the ball hard if you get a mistake inside.

See Pujols, Albert.

The example I was given was they want him to be loose like Rod Carew used to be with the hands and slap those singles past the third baseman. He was joking yesterday that it was gonna be a learning experience this year, hopefully not as painful as was Skip and Brendan’s was last year when they tried the Big Mac hitting style.

Slap? Really?

Sheer and utter drivel.

All hope is lost.

by thepainguy on Dec 9, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously?
Gonna try to be a Brett Gardner slap it and run.

The Rangers tried to do this with Torres and ruined him, and Torres had plus plus to plus plus plus speed.

I’m going to be sick.

by thepainguy on Dec 9, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

you have any video

of this new “one-handed swing” That Ryan was using and Tony Rasmus hasn’t seen his son use?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure what they are talking about

Unless they are talking about extending and poking the ball the other way.

That “works,” but it’[s impossible to hit for power that way.

by thepainguy on Dec 9, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

That's my point

Ryan wasn’t working on a one-handed swing last year, because it would be impossible.

Its the one handed swing that Brendan (Ryan) was working on last year. I haven’t watched him hit he has just been telling me about it.

So why is T. Rasmus sighting it as an example?

I was also just curios if you have a video of Ryan doing this. I don’t recall him using a one-handed swing. I also don’t think the Cardinals are going to try and model a new swing for Rasmus after their worse hitter.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm sorry

I thought you said “i’m not sure what YOU” are talking about. Not “they”

darn interweb

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

A one-handed swing is basically a poke the other way

It’s not literally a one-handed swing, but that’s what it looks like if done “correctly.”

Also, they could believe that Boog just wasn’t doing it right.

But, of course it’s actually impossible to do it right.

by thepainguy on Dec 9, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I call it Milesing.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if this is a precursor to an eventual Rasmus trade

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Tony-logic at it's finest

He can’t do what I want him to do.

But it’s not his natural…

HE CAN"T DO IT.

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

It worked to perfection with Reyes.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Dec 9, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

sounds like a strategy for Tony Rasmus

to get him traded to me.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

this seems like a bit of fear mongering.

let’s not overreact people.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Dec 9, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, when they get to ST and he starts slapping the ball the other way

then you can freak out.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 9, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

BE LIKE SKIP?????????

FUCK!

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by redbirdnation8206 on Dec 9, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

do you honestly think

that unnamed sources in the Cardinal’s Organization is telling Tony Rasmus they want his son to “Be like skip.”?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

No

But after what Boog was taught, I don’t know.

by thepainguy on Dec 9, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

He explains it in the video I’ve linked to multiple times.

It’s standard Mattingly crap.

by thepainguy on Dec 9, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

What does Tony Rasmus teach?

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

dingdangoleheredity

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

not sex ed?

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Dec 9, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Not sure

I’ve looked around but can’t find anything definitive.

I assume it’s probably rotational; trying to hit the ball hard (but not always for dingers).

Listen, I get the whole power/average trade-off thing. Torres AVG fell apart in September due in part to his appendectomy and due in part to his pressing and trying to get to 30 dingers. He hit MUCH better when he was just trying to hit doubles and the odd home run.

However, you can take this too far, and I’m concerned the Cardinals may be.

by thepainguy on Dec 9, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Example
Torres AVG fell apart in September due in part to his appendectomy and due in part to his pressing and trying to get to 30 dingers.

His average fell because his BABIP dropped to .200 despite the fact that there was no significant change in his batted ball profile. In fact, his batted ball profile in July was similar to the one in September but he hit .361 on BIP that month. You can’t state with any degree of surety that his average fell because he was pressing to get to 30 HRs.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2010 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

There's certainly some bad luck involved

All I know is that…

1. When we met in August, he was fixated on getting to 30 HRs and was pressing me for ideas. That concerned me, so we really didn’t talk swing mechanics much.

2. He didn’t hit well in the NLDS and the start of the NLCS, to the point where he got pull crazy and started chasing balls. After I talked to him about laying off the stuff outside and just trying to hit the stuff over the plate for doubles, he got red hot and finished at .350 for the NLCS and .318 for the WS.

by thepainguy on Dec 9, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Let me do you a favorH

Here’s Don Mattingly talking hitting…

- Don Mattingly on the Swing

This doesn’t reflect how he actually swung the bat.

This is just standard linear nonsense that Mac apparently taught Boog.

by thepainguy on Dec 9, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes I did

can you please tell me where he says he was taught that? He discusses what his new swing is going to be. What he’s made changes to (and I agree that the hands first philosophy is terrible) but he never says that he was taught that or coached it or anything.

I think it’s a big leap to derive the hitting philosophy from one player (who is a notorious tinkerer) talking about adjustments he’s made to his swing. I’m not at all convinced that there’s a one-size fits all approach to hitting either.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I have multiple quotes from McGwire...

…that make it clear that he teaches Mattingly’s stuff.

I wish Mac would just teach his swing (or Mattingly’s swing).

by thepainguy on Dec 9, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

We've been down this path before

and it’s not productive. I’ll simply leave it at the point that I don’t agree with what your conclusions are.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure why this is so hard to believe or accept

This is standard Mattingly crap with a little bit of Gwynn mixed in for good measure…

The Cardinals hitters are learning McGwire’s philosophy to take the shortest path to the baseball with their hands before hitting through the ball and eliminating the loops in their swings and other extraneous movements. Hitting through the ball creates backspin, which allows the ball to carry…Radar was the first to convince McGwire that less movement meant less room for error. That’s when McGwire tamed his leg kick and lowered his arms and started taking a straight-line approach to the ball.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/marlins/2010-mlb-preview-first-year-cardinals-hitting-coach-518125.html

I vomit every time I read this, but I do it for the team.

by thepainguy on Dec 9, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

You don't have to agree with my conclusions

Just read McGwire’s words and match them up to what Boog does and says.

by thepainguy on Dec 9, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh good, today is negative VEB day.

Let’s all overreact to some quotes from Tony Rasmus about Colby! He’s a fair and trustworthy source regarding the club’s handling of his son!

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 5:07 PM EST reply actions   4 recs

March 31st cannot get here soon enough.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Papa Rasmus has an axe to grind with the organization.

One week he’s not speaking with Colby the next he knows all the intimate details of his life. This is a pageview grab by the author publishing some spurious reports.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I can ignore the stuff about hitting approach, but if he is down to 180 lbs?

That is a skinny Colby. 175 lbs. and 6-2". Come on. That is just stupid. Not reasonable.

Blessed are they who are pleasant to blog with....

by spfldbird on Dec 9, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

also not true

half that crap he wrote, Tony fucking La Russa would scratch his head at…. less than 10 homers? HOW DID ANYBODY BELIEVE THIS STATEMENT!

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 9, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

well even if that is true, colby doesn’t bat second anyway (most of the time)

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 9, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

that was a blue font thing^

buuuuuut
I believe colby will bat 2nd this year
(since they want Berkman to bat 5th)

though I guess they will mix it up

unless they are going to go skip, theriot, pujols :-/

by jealousblues on Dec 9, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

i knew that - i tried to get that through with the "haha"

and colby batting second would be a great idea – something tony doesn’t normally do though so i’m not counting on it

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 10, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Colby for 5th

hitting behind Holliday instead of in front of Albert will allow the Cards to use some of his base running speed. If Colby hits #2 and is on first, he is limited to using his speed after the ball is hit.

by ubeddie on Dec 10, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

omg, how am i sick again

i was only not sick for like 2 days. this is bullshit

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Dec 9, 2010 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

change your toothbrush

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Dec 9, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

put some clothes on

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2010 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

clothes are overrated

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Some more light-hearted fare

Mugshots…that are funny…and not celebrities

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Dec 9, 2010 5:29 PM EST reply actions  

"LADIES LOVE IT"

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

that tat stache

should be a right of passage for all boys that enter into puberty.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Dec 9, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Bartolo Colon's 2011 player photo after the Pirates ink him to a one-year deal.

(Photographer note: Unable to locate Pittsburgh cap capable of fitting Colon’s head – will photoshop later.)

I didn't know that chivalry still existed in your semi-savage country.

Kozmaaaaa!!

by The Classical on Dec 9, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions   4 recs

rec'd

Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.

by mtzxc on Dec 9, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

They signed the clown!

who has the Colon clown picture?

Just win

by The Duke on Dec 9, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

that was jd's sig right?

too bad he is busy watching auburn dominate get lucky….

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 9, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

checking in

hey guys what’d I— actually, no. don’t tell me what I missed.

  • You must now go back and find all the “meme” puns you missed the first time.
  • mysterui, it’s your own fault for admitting you have a mother.
  • Yadi4, see sig. There is a Molina4MVP, and e’s just spoiling our numbering system. What shall we call him? 1005?
  • dgoold tweets to follow.
  • Poll: What will happen first?
    1. Carp signs a multi-year contract with the Cardinals.
    2. Carp signs a one-year contract [no team specified.]
    3. Carp gets a neck tattoo.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 9, 2010 6:17 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

as to the poll question

2, but a team-financed 3 will be part of the contract

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Dec 9, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I can see him getting one with eyes

on the first base side.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 9, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be so freaking cool.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 9, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

dgooooooold
  1. Word around the media room is that it may have been @JoeStrauss that caused the lockdown at Orlando airport. Contraband Mickey ears. about 3 hours ago via web
    sic840: @dgoold I heard his huge ego wouldn’t fit through nude scanner. about 3 hours ago via Twitter for Android in reply to dgoold
    @sic840 why hurt Twitter with that visualize. about 2 hours ago via web in reply to sic840
  2. @gordoszone Because it’s very much like Tony La Russa to take a guy with power and say, hey, hit fewer home runs. Please. For me. about 1 hour ago via web in reply to gordoszone
    gordo1, gordo2, gordo3
  3. @stlhensley It does sound like Duncan encouraging Wainwright to work on a knuckleball this winter to, you know, prolong his career. about 1 hour ago via web in reply to stlhensley
    MattSebek: @dgoold My people are hearing Fredbird told Skip Schumaker to hustle a little less. Has shown to prolong the career. about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck in reply to dgoold
    stlhensley: @MattSebek Me thinks Fredbird gave same advice to Yadi. about 1 hour ago via web in reply to MattSebek
    @MattSebek It’s odd that Brendan Ryan has been told to swing for the fences more. Big Paul Bunyan hacks. Couldn’t hurt. about 1 hour ago via web in reply to MattSebek

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 9, 2010 6:27 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

FIRE FREDBIRD!

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Leach gives us a picture

of the Rule 5 Draft

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 9, 2010 6:32 PM EST reply actions  

Cardinal's prospect discussion day

over a minorleagueball….pretty lame discussion so far

check out VEB on facebook...just search groups for Viva El Birdos

by Dttl89 on Dec 9, 2010 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

don't show this stat to Jeff Gordon:

Colby Rasmus hit .340 on ground balls last year. I left it out of my SB Nation post on the subject because I didn’t want to think about it falling into the wrong hands…

by DanUpBaby on Dec 9, 2010 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

maybe it already has

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 9, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

goddammit, danup, you're like the julian assange of batted ball info.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Dec 9, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Stay out of Sweden!

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

the cards should look into a more expensive version of this..

On July 13, Ichiro signed a contract extension with the Seattle Mariners for an additional five years, a contract lasting until 2012.13 The deal is reported to be worth $90 million, consisting of a $17 million annual salary and $5 million signing bonus, although part of Ichiro’s annual salary will be deferred with interest.14 The Associated Press reported the contract extension Ichiro signed will defer $25 million of the $90 million and the team will not have to fully pay him until at least 2032.

 The deal will pay Ichiro $12 million salary each year and will defer $5.5 million per season at 5.5 percent. The deferred money will be paid to Ichiro in annual installments, every January 30, beginning the year after he retires. Because of the deferred money, Ichiro’s contract will be discounted to $16.1 million. Other provisions in Ichiro’s contract include a $32,000 yearly housing allowance that will rise by $1,000 each year and four first-class round trip tickets to Japan each year for his family. He will also be provided with either a new Jeep or Mercedes SUV by the team, as well as a personal trainer and interpreter.

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on Dec 9, 2010 8:50 PM EST reply actions  

too bad they

havent made wise moves after that..

Miguel Batista, Trading Jones.. Chone..

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on Dec 9, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd gladly take Figgins if his contract were somewhat paid for.

He’d be preferable to Schumaker or Theriot anyway, whichever will end up playing 2nd.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Dec 9, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Jeep or Mercedes

WTF.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Ap wont need an interpreter either

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on Dec 9, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

How do you pronounce Daimlerchrysler?

Daimler – the Chrysler is silent.
( Badumpump. Detroit joke, circa 1998.)

by peach concrete on Dec 9, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

the SRT's & AMG's are freaking awesome

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I just think it's a big gap between a 40K jeep

and an 80K benz.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 10, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

80k?

Try 183k.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 10, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

that's a slick looking car

if there wasn’t a giant benz symbol on the front i’d of never guessed it twas a mercedes

by YesWeOquendo on Dec 10, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

The gullwing doors would have tipped you off.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 10, 2010 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

By the way, I was watching Sportscenter, and I noticed something that made me think the apocalypse was coming.

ESPN used WAR to evaluate Cliff Lee compared to other starting pitchers. When the hell did ESPN actually use somewhat useful stats?

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Dec 9, 2010 9:07 PM EST reply actions  

They've been introducing it more and more

I think they had their first use of BABIP like a month ago

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I knew it was real!

I saw them use WAR to compare some other players recently. I thought maybe it was a dream, or a mirage, or perhaps it was a daemon sent to tempt me with illusions and false promises. But it’s real, I tell you. Repent!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Dec 9, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

mysterui

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 10:01 PM EST reply actions  

Awesome, thanks

Also: 2 finals down, 2 finals to go

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

when are your next 2?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Both are next Tuesday

Which means drinky drinky tonight

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, I'm watching

these right now. Damn you.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 9, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd just like to thank all of you, from the bottom of my heart

4 hour Federal Income Tax exam tomorrow at 9 AM and I know jack shit, partly because I spend way too much time browsing and commenting here. Couldn’t have done it without you! Never ask me for tax advice! Good night.

by mattyp on Dec 9, 2010 10:25 PM EST reply actions  

ha. i took that final once. BY HAND. it was awful. good luck to you!

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 9, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Good Luck

Remember, the answer always involves the person owing more.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

go into sales, not law.

(still at the office writing 30 page brief)

by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 9, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

you're welcome & good luck, we're all counting on you

also i don’t pay taxes, but i may ask you to help get rid of a body

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Oi, Rui

guess who’s drunk, drunk again, drunk is back, tell a friend…

in other news, mariners attempt to improve dismal offensive production inculdes attempt to sign Lance Nix. Any thoughts?

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

i love you so much its barely platonic anymore

unless your actually a guy…

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry buddy. all chick here.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 9, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

GODDAMNIT

we can still be friends right?

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

the gays love me. is that offensive? kathy griffin says it all the time.

tell me you heart kathy griffin.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 9, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

*model

(seriously, my spelling/typing has deteriorated in the last few days.)

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

cause i was really trying to figure out what you meant.

and yeah, obviously if kathy griffin says it, it must be okay.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 9, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't wait until it's revealed that you're a straight black man from Virginia.

And the most elaborate prank VEB has ever seen is announced. Oh, what a Pranksgiving it will be!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

haha!

Maybe your right fritz….maybe your right…

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

get in line

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Aw man, you remember those Pujols/Rolen fanfics?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

i still have nightmares.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 9, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

tis now green.

hey Mo: theriot at 2B, boog at SS.
KEEP BRENDAN RYAN.

by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 9, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

wierd...

first couple words, i thought this was just a “parody” of Created A Monster (which btw is a fucking awesome song that Madden players will have heard of)

if you listen to the song, you’ll see why i thought it

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 9, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck

it’s a drunk Aranathor.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 10, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

but you'll quack like one if the price is right

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Niceeeeeeeeee

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

awwww

i was going to go with “his butt hole’s not tight enough”

by YesWeOquendo on Dec 10, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

i find that insinuation offensive

and as such

I CHALLENGE YOU TO A DUEL

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

oh you'd just love it if we had a little slap & tickle time wouldn't you?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

So what if i would?

it’d only be awkward for one of us.

also are you actually coming to england or what?

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

i would love to come to england, but unless i win the lotto

i’m afraid it won’t be any time soon

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

whats the worst that could happen?

abandon your old life and come live here! It’ll be… actually quite wierd come to think of it

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

if i had the $$ i'd move to Fuji or Australia

i am part Irish, so moving to the emerald isle to find my roots wouldn’t be all that weird. would it?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

You must really not get along with your liver

Let’s just say: They just signed Miguel Olivo, and he might be their 3rd best hitter

Signing basically anybody is an upgrade over last year

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm getting read to check out for the night.

Does anyone want a Late Night thread or you all staying here?

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2010 11:02 PM EST reply actions  

Will it involve a picture of Mario Lopez?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Him checking out, or the Late Night thread?

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm not sure but I am sure I don't like whatever he's insinuating.

That’s a rule to live by though. Even if you aren’t sure of what Fritz says, be sure that you don’t like it.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2010 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Duly noted.

Perhaps add that to the community guidelines.

“Never believe Fritz. Ever.”

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

what?

My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with the girl who saw azruavatar pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it’s pretty serious.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 11:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Right, and Aranathor is gay.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

It can ... I guess.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

and...

I’m out

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Dec 9, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Mexcellent.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Not necessarily. It depends

on whether he’s a Mexican… or a Mexican’t.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Dec 9, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I know a Mexican't.

I’m more fluent in Spanish than he is.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Robots don't age.

But based on your comments thus far, yes.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

All right. Based on lack of enthusiasm

I’m gonna let this thread stand on it’s own.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

what lack of enthusiasm?

You want entusiasm!

AWOOGA AWWOOGA A WAH A WAH AWOOGA AWOOGA A WAH

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Soooo.....

I was thinking of chaning my avatar to this, considering the massive anti-skip backlash

any thoughts?

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 11:07 PM EST reply actions   3 recs

It's subtle.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

...

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 9, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

i lol'd

you’d be surprised how often i have to say this

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Fabulous

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

mysterui's mom was last night!

/waiting & watching

hey Mo: theriot at 2B, boog at SS.
KEEP BRENDAN RYAN.

by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 9, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

in bed.

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

But seriously Azru

We need an overflow… PLEASE,OH DEAR GOD DO YOU HAVE NO MERCY

…. OH LORD MY SPLEEN

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

ohh sooo sick but you guys are making me laugh .......thanks

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Dec 9, 2010 11:32 PM EST reply actions  

don't worry about it

what exactly are you sick with?

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

WTF?

Left field comment…

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

yes, ignore it

no comment that calls Latino “almost white” warrants attention

by peach concrete on Dec 9, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed.

I glossed over it and didn’t even see that part.

by spants on Dec 9, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

stomach flu..... my path to the bathroom is marked with landing lights at night

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Dec 9, 2010 11:38 PM EST reply actions  

heh, gutted

i expect to be buggered tomorrow morning, massive volumes of aclohol + kebab = terror

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

oh i love the new avatar its so you Aranathor...... do you think Brendan might be gay ?

maybe thats why they’re so frantic to be rid of him , it seems so cruel the way Mo and TLR speak about ridding the team of him ….. just a thought and probably a stupid one , i blame the fever .

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Dec 9, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Why thank you!!! (jesus, i'm almost going camp...)

On boog, google reveals very little info, though it is certainly a possibility given the desire to be rid of him held by TLR et. al. but i think it would be unfair to rush to any conclusive judgement.

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 9, 2010 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

its probably cause i watched the Glen Burke story today...... the dodgers treated him

like the Cards are treating Boog , a rush to rid the team of him even though he was a great player in his prime .

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Dec 9, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't describe Boog as a 'great player'

But anyway; the way Glenn Burke was treated (considering i’ve only this minute read about him) sounds like a crock of shit, and is pretty nasty even during the 70’s/80’s

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

FWIW, the Good Stalker mentioned an ex-gf

that was a few years ago
it’s the only instance of public bitterness I’ve ever read from Boog, and it was two words

either way, I’m guessing Joe Mather is cool with it

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

have you seen all the Boog and Bombs films?

the silent movie one was quite evocative. someone should write a paper on its symbolism.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

aha, I found it.

http://www.flipflopflyin.com/flipflopflyball/info-homosexuality.html

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

i was lookin for that the other day actually

i must read up on this Glenn Burke fellow.

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

speaking of AIDs, i'm watching philadelphia in my Christ and Faith class

Denzel, Tom Hanks, and Antonio Banderas in the same cast! Wow!

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 10, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow, that class sounds like a barrel of laughs.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ah yes

talking to god on the big white telephone….Man, I hate that.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 10, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Reds have signed Jay Bruce to 5 years, $61 million, per Jerry Crasnick

I’d definitely take that for Razzums

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2010 11:43 PM EST reply actions  

Reds are locking in some salary

now all they have to do is attract some fans

by ubeddie on Dec 9, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

what the fuck?

why is there so much going on right now? And why has none of it involved the words Pujols, signs, and contract? (

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 9, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

January 15th, 2011.

Also, Pujols and the team want to keep it as quiet as possible.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

you misunderstand me (what's with the date?)

they SHOULD keep it quiet… I want to hear the deal signed already though – that’s my problem

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 9, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Strauss believes a deal will be announced by that date.

And yeah, I misread you. I blame the Gentleman Jack.

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 9, 2010 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

so strauss is recanting on his "less than 50/50 chance of signing" theory

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 10, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

JUST LIKE YOUR MOM

heh heh heh

You are now the Blitz

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

that's not how it works Blitz

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

notice how i've stayed out of the "your mom" thread

you can’t do that to me.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 10, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't trust anybody on this site anymore

You all have destroyed my innocence. I hope you know that

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh god I shouldn't have typed that either

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

i don't think it really matters what you type...

someone will find a way to insult your mom one way or the other

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 10, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

i for one am sure your mother

is a classy dame. A faithful wife and loving mother…



in…


real life.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 10, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh thank you

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually, in the Wednesday chat,

he said he still stood by his “30-40% chance” statement. It seemed odd to me to predict a date, then say there’s still a less than 50% chance of it happening, but it is Strauss, so…

by ArkansasTravs on Dec 10, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm seeing 6 year $51 million.

Option for 7th year could make contract worth $63 million.

by spants on Dec 9, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

6 years at $51M looks pretty damn good to me for a future Rasmus contract.

by spants on Dec 9, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Whatever screw you guys

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

GODDAJLKJSDL:DGJLSKDGJSLKDJG:LSKJGKL:SJGLSDJGLKJLEI

LKSDJGLDKSJGKLSJDGOWIGJLSJDLKSDGSDGKJSLKJ:VIEJVLWJEGLKSDJGLDKSJGKLSJDGOWIGJLSJDLKSDGSDGKJSLKJ:VIEJVLWJEGLKSDJGLDKSJGKLSJDGOWIGJLSJDLKSDGSDGKJSLKJ:VIEJVLWJEGLKSDJGLDKSJGKLSJDGOWIGJLSJDLKSDGSDGKJSLKJ:VIEJVLWJEGLKSDJGLDKSJGKLSJDGOWIGJLSJDLKSDGSDGKJSLKJ:VIEJVLWJEGLKSDJGLDKSJGKLSJDGOWIGJLSJDLKSDGSDGKJSLKJ:VIEJVLWJEGLKSDJGLDKSJGKLSJDGOWIGJLSJDLKSDGSDGKJSLKJ:VIEJVLWJEGLKSDJGLDKSJGKLSJDGOWIGJLSJDLKSDGSDGKJSLKJ:VIEJVLWJEGLKSDJGLDKSJGKLSJDGOWIGJLSJDLKSDGSDGKJSLKJ:VIEJVLWJEG

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Okay, bri

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

but seriously, you shouldn't let these ' yo momma' jokes stress you out so

i know shit just got real wit yo wedding n’ all but yo jus’ feedin’ da trolls

also, jus’ cos yo mamma is hot enough to straighten me out don’t mean she gots to be tha subject o’ comedy.

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

No seriously I don't care about them

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Are there even black people in England?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Clearly sarcastic, brah

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Like Chhhaaaa

i mean, like i tottally don’t need to be told that, at all.

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

-Rui's mom to Jay Bruce after a night of hot sex on her got a little too rough.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Now you're just embarassing yourself

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

-rui to his mom after... oh, you're right.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

HEY EVERYONE RUI'S MOM IS SUCKING DICK BEHIND THE DUMPSTERS AT BLEED CUBBIE BLUE!!!

YOU DON’T TELL ME WHEN I’M EMBARRASSING MYSELF. I CAN DO THAT ON MY FUCKING OWN!!!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Tore my family apart =(

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Ohhhh man I should not have used those words

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

in bed?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 10, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

My god you're a good sport

if you weren;’ Asian, I’d think you were a Mormon.

*Note: If Asian Mormons exist, I’ll eat my hat.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

There are apparently 24 in the world

You owe me pictorial evidence

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2999070124

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Have the gay send me some HP sauce and we will make this happen.

(I love this politically incorrect thread!)

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Oi!!!!

unless you send me some Beef Jerky, no deal

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Ew

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

and by beef jerky he mean's cock

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

That was tottally uncalled for.

i f’n love beef jerky.

….and cock, but those things are tottally un related.

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I see you have not tasted the above 70 years old flavor of the raimbow yet.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

you may have ruined beef jerky for me...

i’ll give it a few days before i can say that’s true

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 10, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah, so you're a

Jewish English gay

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 10, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Jewish?

dude, not cool.

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

not that there's anything wrong with that

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

No, you don't understand

you threw out an “Oi™”, which is what we Jews says, and as you can say, we have it trademarked. So, you’re Jewish, or there will be a JDL member at your door later today :)

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 10, 2010 1:45 AM EST up reply actions  

No, YOU don't understand

‘oi’ is a yorkshire expression for mild to moderate annoyance (anything greater is usually a ‘watch it you stupid bugger’) usually in a pub setting or similair.

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Ugh

*see

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 10, 2010 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought that was "Oy."

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 10, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't matter how it's spelled

it’s the sound that counts. Yorkshire has been put on notice:)

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 10, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

So has Australia...

Aussie Aussie Aussie
Oi Oi Oi

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 10, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

your mom to you

Now you’re just embarassing yourself… i’ve told you this a hundred times… KNOCK THE FUCKING DOOR

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 10, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

well done

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

clearly the Mariners are teaching you their ways

i mean how else to explain the Carlos Silva contract?

“4 years, $28 million?… Shit, I’ll take that. Sweet. Go ahead report it to the press.”

(Two hours later)

“The Mariners have signed Silva to a 4 year, $48 million contract…” (fades off in the distance)

“Oh shit, not again…”

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 10, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh mine was wrong... it's actually 6 years $51M

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

wat

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I fucked up

It’s 6/51

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

the only reason everyone was giving you shit just a few minutes ago

was because you put down the wrong contract and you just now figured out that you messed up

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 10, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

...I know. I was just making sure he knew

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Good move, Jock.

Wow, that sounds weird to say.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

wut?

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

JJ Hardy and Brendan Ryan
A number of deals moved forward today. The Orioles officially acquired J.J. Hardy and Brendan Ryan from the Twins,

They meant Brendan Harris I think

by ubeddie on Dec 10, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

IN THE YEAAAAAAARRRRRR 200000000000

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I can haz Thread Recap PLZ?

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Dec 10, 2010 12:39 AM EST reply actions  

And do it to the tune of Fairtale of New York

for the season’s sake.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

mysterui's mom is busy

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

i mean

uh, no.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

and while you're at it, can you find the origins of the "seattle, dave duncan, big z" meme?

albrtfn has no idea what it is & i can’t find it

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

It was from DD's mysterious day off.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 10, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, this.

if you know it’s when Zambrano pitched, Dave Duncan took a day off, and …. wait, who went to Seattle?

see, I don’t even remember.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

They were three seperate memes

that covered a span of months. While seemingly all the same now, they all happened organically.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

no, it wasn't months

the original three were within weeks. possibly days. otherwise it wouldn’t have caught on at all.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

gdm also had a little "man went to the moon" gif action, though that faded off.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

i swear it all happened on the same day

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

ditto

Seattle came earlier, but they all should’ve been within days.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree. And it started in a main thread,

not a game thread.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 10, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

July was Dunc (shortly after Chris' trade) , Mid Aug was Big Z ( i was in DC at the time), Seattle was TBD

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I also remember that because

that’s when Shelby Miller threw a bullpen, and everyone watched him. including AJ.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

RiverRat seems to be its current keeper

but the day is easy to triangulate, if you know the original three.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

THAT WAS WAY LATE INTO THE MEME FEST

the first Big Z one was in August, Dunc was in July, and I don’t recall Seattle for sure… it was just a random ? where four people answered simultaneously “Seattle” and it went from there.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

was that was the day someone was rec'ing all of my comments?

it kind of looks like it

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

holy crap, was it that long ago?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

That can;t be right

by 8/25 i was already being ironic.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

this is why I really hate SBN not getting its archives together.

multiply that by dozens of glossary memes….

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Alright so 8/25 def marks the "How did Big Z do?" meme starting

and I guess the “Where is Dunc” too, but I swear I remember that being closer to when Chris was traded - OH NOW I REMEMBER — It wasn’t when he was traded it was when he was cut from AAA and moved back in with his parents. MAKES TOTAL SENSE.

Good luck finding the date on that Seattle meme, though!

Yadi2… this is why there’s a glossary!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm relying on RiverRat for that particular meme

there’s a lot more, like Lohse’s NTC and stuff.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll see if I can dig up the Seattle part tomorrow.

rui’s mom is waiting.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 10, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

sept 4th 09

looks like the Seattle date. Link

totally unrelated to Big Z and Duncan though

by ubeddie on Dec 10, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Seattle was so epic and so spontaneous

it’s one of those weird memes that probably shouldn’t have shelf life, but it just does. combination of necessity and serendipity.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

8 subject lines

all timestamped the same. I believe it built from there the next time Big Z pitched. Off to BR to cross reference.

by ubeddie on Dec 10, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

whoa, and I decided NOT to put it in the glossary

HFS ®
by Yadi2Second on Sep 9, 2009 2:50 AM CDT on An Abridged VEB Glossary
…t back in manually. anyway, updates. 09/09/09 Added: nexdef’d. Did not add: Zambrano, Duncan, Seattle.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

8:36!

it got related soon after that. they all meant the same thing — repeating an obvious answer is obvious, and it all happened around the same time.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

8? they all say 9 to me

it was organic & serendipitous, so why can’t we remember it?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I won't say who said that.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

who said what?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

and September 4 is when Seattle took off

I’m trying to see if that’s connected to akaitori being in the area.

the player it’s about is just slipping my mind

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

it has to be Jack Wilson.

so whenever Dave Duncan took a day off (same as Shelby’s bullpen), Jack Wilson was traded to Seattle, and Zambrano… moved to the bullpen? or was it back to starter?

so, yeah, basically within a week.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Z to the pen was this year,

I think he just blew up, and it’s possible that PJ went over to BCB and dropped the how’s Big Z doing after he lasted an inning.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 10, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

i seem to remember it was this spontaneous "how is the game going on, over there"

the cubs game was definitely going on at the same time. i think people were waiting with the flag. I think.

but i also seem to remember him being away for a while. maybe injury.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

this has been a very good memesplanation

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Dec 10, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

it's not that good.

we should’ve had an answer for you by now.

and expanded on the rest of the meme. the litany is much longer now.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

you're the single-reccer, aren't you

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

you are green in that thread

so he is probably one of the ones who rec’d it

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 10, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

last time I checked

there are two more single-recs o’ mine on this page.

[looks at YWO suspiciously]

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

oh i get it

Y2S gets a single rec from someone in random threads and he suspects it’s you…

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 10, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Carp's new ink

IHB’s new limericks

aranathor’s still drunk

ru’s mom’s still giving it away

Coby’s dad is a ahole who punked us all

that’s all i’ve got

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno

Were Santana or Uggla in the minor league portion?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

SCOTT PODSEDNIK

so no need to get too excited about Jean Mijares…

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 10, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Truth.

It wasn’t what the rule 5 is as we know it know, but he essentially should have been a Dodger if not for unsubtle racism.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

he get prevented from the big club because he was black i'm guessing

despite extremely good numbers?

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 10, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Nope, toiled in AAA for a bit b/c he didnt speak english, essentially

Dodgers didn’t think they needed a non-Murican so they exposed him to the at the time “rookie draft” (it’s essentially a combo of the the Majors & the minors rule 5 now), and while he experienced plenty of frustrations over his color and language while in Pittsburgh, he went on to become one of the greatest hitters ever and the greatest social advocate in the history of sports with the Pirates.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

My all-time favorite non-Cardinal

He was so fun to watch. He had a bazooka for an arm, even better than Vlad in his prime.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 10, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

dost this Manuscript meane some sorte off Prophecy??!

http://www.flipflopflyin.com/flipflopflyball/info-littlepretty.html

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 12:43 AM EST reply actions  

I'd do anything for a 24 hour restaurant within walking distance that make me one of these:

pulled pork and bacon on a warm glazed donut with guac and spicy mustard:

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 10, 2010 12:55 AM EST reply actions  

where do you live?

if some rich bastard would front me the cash i’d put it on the bars menu

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

up a damn dirt road miles from anywhere...

but I dream living in the the central west end once again.

Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.

by guayzimi on Dec 10, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

sound like my childhood

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

what the....???

no, that doesn’t even look good. individually, maybe, or even without the guac.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 10, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

i would do it without the guac

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh no you don't wanna mix donuts with avacado and spicy mustard

I tried exactly this at home awhile ago:

Fried donut buns
Burger
Avacado
Bacon
Cheddar cheese
Spicy mustard

It was pretty bad. Maybe substituting pulled pork for burger will help, but I don’t know.

i like heroin - prophetjohn

by vivaelpujols on Dec 10, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

a rec for you for the work

awesome thanks Aranthor!

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Dec 10, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Dude

where did the 2nd ‘a’ go?

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

What's the origin of this anyways?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Go onnnnnnnnnnn

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, like your mom?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

BOOM

Revenge

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

ok then

in Pokémon Silver, when you train a Nidoran♂ up to Nidoking (using a moonstone if i remeber correctly) and you use him in battle it makes a noise sorta like ‘AAARRR AAAA AAHHHH OOOORRRRR’. I refined this 16bit gameboy generated noise into the name ‘Aranathor’ which i have used a screen name ever since (this was in like… some years ago) and for various comics and stories i wrote/drew as a kid.

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That's such a obscure reference

Did you collect Pokemon cards?!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, also Yu-Gi-Oh cards

… is it any wonder i turned out to be a bender?

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh god I had those too

Am I gay?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

just nerdy.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

that depends, is your fiancee a dude?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Not that I'm aware of

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

then you're not gay

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

it's french

he’d be a fiance, in that case.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

i don't speak spanish

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

yes you are, sorry Rui

it tottally unrelated news, what are you doin’ later?

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I dunno, probably gonna be in a public shower or something

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions  

shower you say...

would you be naked during this….?

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Probably, yeah

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

all too easy

[/darth vader voice]

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

i hope your soaps on a rope

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey now, wait a minute...

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 10, 2010 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Its much more interesting than your name's origin, i must admit

This isn’t a critiscism though!!!! please don’t ban me oh glorious and most holy leader of the VEB empire

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait, only Pokemon Silver?

Does this not apply to Blue/Red as well?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

i have no idea what you just said

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm sorry, so, so sorry.

but, your old.

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I was going to say you're on his lawn

but that might be taken the wrong way

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

so very old

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll be that guy

and admit that I know where to find this particular pokemon cry. I’m not sure I hear it.

by DanUpBaby on Dec 10, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

wow, i guess you guys are about old enough to have played with pokemon

damn i really am old .sheeet

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

...you wrote Pokemon fanfiction, didn't you?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

....dialog for that seems overly challenging.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

PIKACHU: "Pi! Pika-pi!"

NIDOKING: “Aranathor!”
LOHSE: “That’s so cool! Do my name next!!”

by DanUpBaby on Dec 10, 2010 1:35 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

the fandom never appealed to me

I was strictly earthbound and harry potter.

Now, I might have read Pokemon fanfiction.

by DanUpBaby on Dec 10, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I may or may not have been into A Knight's Tale fanfiction

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

i take it all back

its actually the cry for a feraligator

sorry guys.

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:41 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

damn it, aranathor

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

i said i was sorry!

I’ve honestly thought it was a nidoking for all these year… ALL THESE YEARS!!!

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

hahahaha

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

New trick....

you can right click on a video now and select copy video url at current time.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 10, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

oh, uh, well i guess thats ok then

please ignore my previous post accusing azru of being evil.

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:48 AM EST up reply actions  

oh c'mon Dan please!

its 6:45am have some sympathy for god’s sake… FOR GOD’S SAKE DO YOU HAVE NO MERCY MAN!! Has your heart been conquered by the evil forces of azruavatar for the evil machine empire…??!?!??!?!??!?! Cause thats what he’s planning you know, i know you think that he’s just a docile machine with an ineplicable passion for cardinal’s baseball, but he’s not, he’s an evil machine, you know the worst part? Even he himself doesn’t know it. thats right, he thinks it all a game and doesn’t know the truth and refuses to acknowledge it, he’s been programmed that way… don’t trust him, don’t trust anyone AAAAAHHHHH!!!!

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

you need to keep drinking son

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm just reminding you & encouraging you to not stop

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

awww man, its gettin to 7 am.... again

and i’ve got to be in Uni for 3pm for a debate (its assessed, can’t not go)… so gonna hit the sack soonish

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Is that a euphemism

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm on a couch

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm in a lazy boy

and no, it’s not the same that aranathro’s in

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

are you insinuating that i'm makin' sweet lovin' to a

particularly lazy person right now?

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe he's just tired

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 2:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey I do that all the time

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 2:01 AM EST up reply actions  

vain mofo

you should be ashamed

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 2:03 AM EST up reply actions  

not possible

you capitalized ‘Rui’
so you’re typing with both hands

……unless………..

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 2:01 AM EST up reply actions  

you don't know how tempted i was ti type the words

“FOOT WANK”

in capital letters just then

oh shi….

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

oh just flaunt it for everyone to see, then

not everyone here is young and flexible

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 2:04 AM EST up reply actions  

He's assssssian. Doesn't it just sound assssssiannnnn?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

My name is Rui. It is pronounced "ree"

In third grade, my teacher referred to me as “Mister Rui”

I liked the pun

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I knew this.....

your mom told me last night.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 10, 2010 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

btw my mental voice is glad you explained this a few days ago

Now I can say “mystery” and not “Mister RoooEE”

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Dec 10, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll second that.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Dec 10, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Uh

the second “a” is there. It’s the third one that i forgot

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Dec 10, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Ever since "Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Don't Spell Correctly" passed, I assume.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

need i remind you?

Alcohol > Spelling

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Incorrect

Internet > Spelling

Brendan Ryan is still a St. Louis Cardinal.
Aaron Miles is not.

by TBender on Dec 10, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

as much as i love late nite VEB, its bed time.

’night all. play nice.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 10, 2010 1:05 AM EST reply actions  

aha, now that the last girl has gone

time for some super hot homosexual action

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey you'll appreciate this I think

Cuz, you know, you are a gay

http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2010/1/18/1258759/felix-thread-2#29114286

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

89 recs?

HOLYFUCKINGSHIT.

even you heteros can appreciate that

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

It's 10:00!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

its 11 in arizona now.

and also i have been working this entire time.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Dec 10, 2010 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

its 6 f'n am in england

stay up biznatch

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

You people and your stupid time zones.

Holy shit it’s past midnight!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

my word its gettin late for you

i’m surprised the nurses havent put you to bed yet

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

THE CALLOUT

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 10, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Actaully I do need to leave

I’m getting donuts for me team in the morn and our gates closed at 08000CST.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

MORN, NOT MOM

DAMN YOU RUI’S SEXY MOTHER> ALL I CANS THINK ABOUT NOW!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Dec 10, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

doesn't it say morn?

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Dec 10, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

lies! it's all lies i tells ya!

if this were true, GDM wouldn’t go to sleep alone every damn night

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 1:40 AM EST reply actions  

hhahaha

I love the technical definition of ‘binge drinking’ – more than 5 drinks in a night. If that’s the standard, I don’t think there’s a drinking occasion when I’m NOT binge drinking. Then again, girls have shitty tolerance (while simultaneously being obsessed with telling everyone they can hold their alcohol)

by mattyp on Dec 10, 2010 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh women

ahahahaaa

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 2:01 AM EST up reply actions  

don't knock em till you try em

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

haha, no offense, but i just don't understand how a guy can be attracted to another guy

the female body is the most beautiful piece of art ever created. women are just gorgeous creatures who have no equal

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 2:19 AM EST up reply actions  

except when they aren't

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Dec 10, 2010 2:19 AM EST up reply actions  

oooh, TomCat's here

quick, say something insightful!

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 2:24 AM EST up reply actions  

obviously beauty is in the eye of the beholder

maybe i’m naive, but i really believe every woman is beautiful in her own way

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 2:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I was going to post various images of:

Stuart Broad, Cristiano Ronaldo, David Beckham et. al.

But i fear it would be pointless

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 2:22 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm sure the ladies would love you even more if you did

but you put them next to a woman & i won’t even know they’re there

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 2:26 AM EST up reply actions  

meh, ok then.

and because you asked for a woman…

ok, thats a little harsh…

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 2:37 AM EST up reply actions  

also

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 2:39 AM EST up reply actions  

i don't know who any of those guy are, that ones guys david beckman right?

that’s susan boyle right? i’m sure she’s a lovely person & i bet she’s some blokes dream woman

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 2:48 AM EST up reply actions  

dreams come in many aspects

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Dec 10, 2010 2:49 AM EST up reply actions  

yes they do

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Dec 10, 2010 2:56 AM EST up reply actions  

this guy's really into his pixels.

http://www.flipflopflyin.com/flipflopflyball/flopps.html

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 10, 2010 1:45 AM EST reply actions  

Unless anyone has anything interesting to say

i’m goin to bed and will attempt to get some sleep… if i can stop thinking about Rui’s awesome naked body pounding against equally… no i think i’ve freaked out the guy’s checking this thread in the morning for actually relevant content. Good Bye.

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 2:17 AM EST reply actions  

oooookkkkk

considering one of my flat mates has just WOKEN UP in order to go to uni… i think its about time i got some sleep. An all-nighter isn’t exactly on my list of things to do.

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 2:32 AM EST up reply actions  

oooookkkkk

considering one of my flat mates has just WOKEN UP in order to go to uni… i think its about time i got some sleep. An all-nighter isn’t exactly on my list of things to do.

Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Dec 10, 2010 2:33 AM EST up reply actions  

by technicality though, i think you did pull an all-nighter

as you stayed awake throughout the night and into the next day (7 am right?)

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

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