The Serious Starter
by azruavatar on Dec 31, 2010 10:06 AM EST
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PrintI continue to look at the ZiPS projections on a daily basis. The most recent item on my mind from watching has been the "sixth" starter role. The Cardinals rotation is filled with players who have a rough injury history and there's likely at some point going to be a need for someone from AAA to step up and fill in. Chris Carpenter has had shoulder/elbow surgeries, Jake Westbrook and Jaime Garcia are both Tommy John patients and Kyle Lohse had the suckitis in his forearm, which has allegedly been excised now.
Needless to say, it's a group that has a tenuous health record. So who steps up in case of an injury during 2011?
| Player | IP | K | BB | HR | ERA | FIP* |
| Bryan Augenstein | 124 | 82 | 37 | 11 | 4.35 | 3.92 |
The first name to appear on the ZiPS projection is Augenstein and that is not particularly inspiring. The Cardinals grabbed Augenstein from the Diamondbacks after he threw 120 innings last year in AAA. His minor league statistics are surprisingly good (FIPs averaging below 3.50 during 2009 & 2010 in AA/AAA) as a player who is short on stuff but has very good command. Augenstein may be fine as a depth pitcher but there's a fear of the unknown for me with him. His inclusion in ZiPS as our next best option is worrisome. His inclusion in ZiPS as a better option than Lohse is perhaps more worrisome.
| Player |
IP |
K |
BB |
HR |
ERA |
FIP* |
| Lance Lynn |
157 |
106 |
75 |
18 |
4.87 |
4.77 |
Lance Lynn would be the first name I'd expect to here from VEB if I ran a poll. He was drafted in 2008 as a fast mover. He's certainly climbed the system rapidly pitching in AAA the year after he was drafted and then spending an entire season there again last year. His performance in AAA last year was uninspiring as he was bitten by a HR bug and struggled through the early part of the season with his command. Lynn's supporters will point towards the latter half of the year as an indication that he figured things out and is capable of being a back of the rotation kind of starter. I've watch several games of video of Lynn and remain unimpressed by his stuff. The main qualm I had, however, was with his two seam fastball and if there's one thing this org should be able to fix, it's that. ZiPS projects Lynn to be about 1 wins above replacement over 100 innings.
| Player |
IP |
K |
BB |
HR |
ERA |
FIP* |
| PJ Walters |
139.2 |
107 |
59 |
17 |
4.90 |
4.52 |
We've seen Walters in the majors for two years running now. He got three starts in 2010 and pitched in four more games as a reliever. His numbers were a little better than in 2009 but he's never seemed to be able to hold it together for a full start in my estimation. His stuff is always the primary complaint since he has an fringe average fastball, some average breaking pitches, a plus changeup and average command. He struggles to put away hitters and I'm not sure I see that ever changing. I've always likened him to Yusmeiro Petit whose minor league pedigree and stuff never translated to the majors in a substantial kind of way.
ZiPS also has some other minor leaguers on their projections:
- Adam Ottavino clocks in next with a 5.28 ERA. The 2006 first round draft pick struggled with some shoulder problems last year and never seemed fully in control of the game when he was on the mound. While I've got a soft spot for his fastball/slider combo, I'd rather see it in the pen moving forward.
- Brandon Dickson is underrated in my estimation relative to his peers in these groups. He's not a common name among Cardinals fans despite better than Lance Lynn in 2010 and just a shade worse in 2009. ZiPS has him as a 5.28 ERA pitcher as well. My opinion of him changes frequently -- his stuff is thoroughly average but his minor league stats are very good with a strong groundball percentage.
- David Kopp is projected for a 5.54 ERA. Plagued by injuries despite being regarded by many as having clean mechanics, Kopp pitched through some minor aches in 2010 to spend his first full season on the mound. He's been described to me as a contact pitcher but he's got a strikeout pitcher's fastball. His stuff is ahead of his feel for the game in my opinion and he's likely slated to begin 2011 in Memphis. If he shows up in the bigs, he's either performed very well or things have gone horribly wrong for the organization.
After going through the list, I can't say I feel great about our depth at starting pitcher. Augenstein, Lynn and Walters have all spent plenty of time in AAA and the majors but none of them inspire confidence in me. Ottavino's injuries, Dickson's tepid repertoire and Kopp's inexperience are worrisome as well. I'd like to see the Cardinals add another pitcher from the free agent pool for depth.
Jeff Francis,Justin Duchsherer and Brian Bannister all appear available and decent stop gaps should the need arise. Bannister is the weakest candidate of those three but he's a very cerebral pitcher and there's a part of me that thinks he'd be a good fit with Duncan and his super secret starting pitcher recipe. Brad Penny also remains available and might be an interesting candidate to switch between the bullpen and the rotation. Though if we're going to have that conversation, I might as well pen the Post-Dispatch's yearly "Kyle McClellan: Starter or Reliever?" article now. (They can run that article on Feb. 17th one day after they run the article on how Lance Berkman is in the best shape of his life.)
I'll take the Cardinals starting five over any other rotation in the NL Central. I'll take our top three against the Brewers top three as well. What I won't take is our pitchers to stay healthy for the full year and then I think the Cardinals rotation could get ugly in a hurry.
*Note: The FIPs are lower than they otherwise would be as I did not try to include HBP or differentiate between IBB & BB. 5.50 is a decent starting place for replacement level FIP among starting pitchers but I'd adjust that down in this instance to something closer to 5.25.
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but Bannister already optimizes his brain
Duncan might be a better fit for a dumber pitcher, like Kip Wells
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 31, 2010 10:19 AM EST reply actions
Wells and Marquis were known as dumb (for different reasons- Marquis as an incorrigibly stubborn pitcher, Wells simply as a spaced-out guy who just lost himself in games)
and both of them failed under Duncan. Smoltz, Carp, Westbrook and other more mild mannered and intelligent pitchers have done well with DD.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
Sarcasm meter looks broken
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Dec 31, 2010 5:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Can someone give me some more info on Augenstein?
Based on the projections above, I’m not sure why I shouldn’t at least be excited to see what he can do. Wouldn’t that projection be pretty awesome for a back of the rotation starter? Is it his health or something?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
luhnow alluded to the fact
that they have yet to approach the scrap heap starters but will do so shortly and sign a former major leaguer to a minor league contract — short of that he said lance lynn is number 6 starter.
Just win
/Jeff Suppan steps forward.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
and jumps up and down
and raises his hand and thumbs through a word of the day calendar so that he has a new word for Rick Horton.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 31, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
more on luhnow
I thought the most interesting thing he said was that he mentioned that Skip may be the reserve outfielder and platoon 2B although “right now he’s the starter at 2b”. He also talked very highly of Greene. Sounds like the plan is to give Skip one more chance and if he can’t show improvement we’ll see Greene/Theriot/SKip platoon which sounds great to me. Also said Greene was almost as good as Ryan defensively so it sounds like they think Greene will get more ABs at SS and Theriot would then be Skip’s platoon buddy.
Just win
Greene T. is the "other" 15-20 HR guy
Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: The Riot 4, Rasmus 8, Pujols 3, Holliday 9, Berkman 7, Freese/Craig 5, Molina 2, pitcher, Greene 6
Tyler is your 2011 NL MVP
Book it
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 31, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
me too.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 31, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
I like that scenario
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
he said Greene was as good as Ryan defensively?
surely he meant Ryan Theriot
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
I thought it said nearly as good
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
both
I think people too much remember those couple of games where Greene, at SS, pulled a Dan Uggla, and yes it WAS ugleee. But (as one who has already predicted that he will get 400+ ABs this year) I also remember him turning in some sparklers that, yes, WERE in the Boog category. Whether HIS head problems, which seem to be the opposite of B Ryan’s will allow him to bump Theriot to 2b, is a question.
I think it more likely that most of those 400 ABs I predict he will get will come as a second baseman; and Skip becomes a rich man’s Aaron Miles.
I don’t have a sufficient mental picture of Theriot (defense) except I seem to remember that at one time Sweet Lou was very high on him and is the mgr that gave him a chance. Theriot is probably an average SS, but such vision I do have of him is that he is not a solidly avg second baseman.
The logic is probably going to be that even tho Greene is better at SS than Theriot, he is more better at 2b than is the Riot.
we should lobotomize him
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
I remember lots of people being very high on Greene's defense at one point
So I was kind of surprised when I suddenly wasn’t hearing that anymore.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Ditto.
He seemed to go pretty quickly from a guy who was expected to be +5-10 in the majors to a guy we were praying to see average from.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
People don't like errors
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 31, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
does UZR take errors into account?
they are not that important or should be weighted heavily, but they should at least have some effect
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
Erm.
Really?
Of course they take errors into account. How could you have a fielding metric that didn’t record a fielder throwing the ball into the stands as bad?
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
Yes
But errors generally don’t matter at all. The difference between the most sure-handed and not sure-handed players is like 10 runs a season.
And I was talking about people’s perception of Greene. IIRC he made a lot of errors when he came up, and that tends to fuck with peoples opinions of his defense.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 31, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
But errors generally don’t matter at all.
That’s a rather dumb statement. I don’t think you really meant that. Maybe “people over-estimate the importance of errors”?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 2, 2011 4:31 AM EST up reply actions
he said generally
perhaps he meant they don’t matter if no ones on base or something
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 2, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
he's better at playing second base than he is at playing shortstop
at least, that’s my impression
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
the riot, that is
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Banny
I say no to Brian Bannister. I’ve watched him completely fall apart here in KC for the last couple of years. It has gotten UGLY. No thanks!
You know I was suprised we didn't see Rich Hill last year
Considering the problems the Cards had with that 5th starter position last season.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Did he ever find his left arm?
I thought it fell off.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Iknow he had struggled some, but I thought he eventually got healthy.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
he was allowed to leave
when it became apparent the Cardinals didn’t care for Rich. I think the Red Sox swooped in to lick his wounds
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 31, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
He threw 4 inning with Boston last year,
but that was it as far as the majors.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i.e., more innings than floppy!!
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
"Cerebral pitcher"
that’s a major red flag. That’s like hiring a college professor based on his athleticism.
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
"Don't think, Meat. Just throw."
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 31, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
not here.
WTF is up with tornados in DEC/Jan anyway.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
it's in the 60's!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
-10 when I came to work this morning.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i am personally willing to risk a tornado for 68 degree weather in Dec
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 31, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
As would I.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
It's freaking my wife out a little bit.
She’s from Maine. They rarely see a tornado anywhere near Maine in warm weather, let alone Dec 31.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 31, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
it's like Californians and earthquakes
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Pretty much.
Just went to my basement. But only because Josh made me. I’m just not scared of tornadoes, I guess.
You're an adrenaline junkie, aren't ya?
/totally kidding….don’t wanna get stabbed before the new year.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 31, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
haha, not really.
I just have always loved the odd beauty of this weather. Even as a kid. Grandma would make us go to the basement with a battery-powered radio and I would always find an excuse to go back upstairs and peek outside.
i've a lot of friends who love thunderstorms
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I love storms
until property damage is involved.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 31, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
OK....so I have another storm story.....
About 3 years ago, the Budweiser distributor in town got the Clydesdales to come in for the fouth of JUly, IIRC. He wanted the handlers to be able to experience MT, and knowing myself and my friend (same roommate from above), asked us if we would take them on a float trip down the Big Hole River.
So, we load up rafts, and a lot of beer, and load these guys up and head to the river. We’re doing a relatively short float, about 5 miles. A mile into it, storms hit. And we’re talking St. Louis rain storm in the MT mountains. No big deal, none of us are going to melt. Then the lightning starts. It’s a ways away from us to begin with, but when we finally decided to bail off the river, it was striking trees within 100’ of us. These poor handlers from CA were mostly scared shitless.
I ended up walking / running the last 2 miles or so to get a vehicle, while they tried to decide if it was better under a tree or in the middle of the field. The good news was that no one was hurt, but that was the most surreal storm I had ever been in.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Oh, I get it. I'm the same way.
Just had to say it though.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 31, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
completely agree
green skies… progression from mild gusts to heavy winds with everything in a green haze. I used to always try to stay outside as long as possible before being forced downstairs.
by RasmustheRipper on Dec 31, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Well
it is an acquired taste. Living in Manila 93-08, we went through a lot of serious typhoons. You get to know them. I went out once to a store to make a last run, and the air was dead, meaning, we were just about to get hit. Got my supply (probably of more beer), and got home in time before the 150 km winds hit. We watched out the windows, awed by the eery power of the storm. Luckily, not that much rain in that one. The typhoons (hurricanes) are devastating, especially in the province, where the poorer folk live in palm huts, and the typhoon rips the coconut plantations down. That particular storm devastated Manila with the winds, trees down everywhere. We were without power for 36 hours, and there were a lot of fatalities. Tin roofs fly through the air and hit people. The typhoons in Philippines and Bangladesh often swamp ferries, even huge ones in the Philippines, with tragic results. Not trying to spoil new year’s eve, but the US is better equipped to deal with mother nature than elsewhere.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Dec 31, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
150km? this is America, we don't do the metric system
glad you were safe. it’s sad most 3rd world countries can’t handle typhoons & hurricanes.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
conversion
is 100+mph, because the winds were over 150 km actually.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Dec 31, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
With my slightly blurred vision (left my glasses in my car)
your ’tornadoes" looked like tomatoes, and I wondered why anyone would be scared of tomatoes.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 31, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
First tornado I was ever near,
It was around 96 or 97, and I lived off of 270 in Hazelwood. I was at a friends house and the sky turned green, and sirens went off, and I’m thinking, WTF. Friends say it’s a tornado, and I’m thinking sure, by why is the sky green? I then make the comment, that if I was at my apartment, the roommate (also from MT) and I would probably be out on the balcony, drinking a beer, thinking WTF>
So I head home and pull up to the apartment, and my roommate’s on the balcony, beer in hand, he looks down at me and says “what the fuck is going on.”
I laughed.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
IIRC it tore up an apartment building and a ware house off of the Rock Rd.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
We had one come right over the farm one night.
It peeled the whole roof off one barn in one piece and layed it over the top of the other barn next to it. Damnedest thing I ever saw. If I can find the pics I’ll try to get them up. It was from 98 though, may be looking a while.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 31, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
i've never seen the sky go green, it's never green out here in the summer
it’s jet black. i was in a tornado once down in Hot Springs that destroyed half of the city. we were fine sitting in the KMart parking lot, lots of rain & we couldn’t see the sky or the twister. it went right over us.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
SE Michigan
had a lot of tornado warnings in June, including an F2 about 10 miles south of where I live. Never seen it so active around here (usually, there’s just 1 or 2 a year)
that's tornado weather.
greater the difference in temperature… the worse it could be. KC is in the 30s, so.
tornado is on the ground, apparently. 141 … dangit, don’t talk so fast when you’re reporting that! I think it’s Jefferson cty
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
these cells look like srs bznz, yo
they’re moving fast and they look pretty good for producing cells. rotation is reported.
they’re about to hit the main STL area.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 31, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
fortunately we're all in our parents' basement
except those of us in mysterui’s mom’s basement
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 31, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Body count should save some of you, at least.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 31, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, the radar pictures are getting that magenta purplish color that they almost never get
I was actually at Busch for that huge storm in 2006. Reminds me of that.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
It's a weird day here.
We’re getting a bunch of windows and doors replaced today. On New Year’s Eve. With 60 degree weather. With tornado warnings going off. But just in time for the energy tax thing.
Just weird.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 31, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Got myself about $1000 in deductions as well, this year.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
hitting us right now.
that was fast.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that *was* fast.
crossing the river now.
Robertsville is where one touched down.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
tornado down nw of Waterloo
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
tornado down around Greene, IL
wind damage ’round Kingshighway and Chippewa
brief touchdowns around Potosi and Baldwin; Rolla and Cuba also hard-hit.
….wait, Greene? is this a sign??
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Fenton had some roofs off
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
they're talking and i'm not watching
so I assume so
transcribing is not a strong suit…
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
showing some nasty damage
in Sunset Hills on channel 4
by Merry CRasmus on Dec 31, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like there's a second wave coming through.
Was quiet, but the skies are getting darker and thunder is a-rumblin’.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 31, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
AP reports a death in SE Mo, though they won't say where
Sunset Hills looks messed up
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
phone call: "Mom, we see a tornado!"
kids survive their adventure in natural selection…
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
updside down car on ksdk
i think it’s a beetle, but it’s upside down so not sure
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Springfield MO fatality
they’re not sure if it’s the same death as the Dent Co report, but probably is
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Sunset Hills' mayor is leading NPR's hourly news now.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 31, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Lot of houses completely wiped out
Only minor injuries reported there so far thankfully.
by Merry CRasmus on Dec 31, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
deaths reported in Dent Co / Springfield, and in the Rolla area
spotter saw touchdown in North St Louis. they’re speculating it was the same one that got Sunset Hills
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
oh, and state of emergency in MO.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
attention
you’re not supposed to loot.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
to listen for the weather warnings?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I heard on the radio about tornadoes in Arkansas and southern Missouri this morning as well
The one in Arkansas killed several people. Meanwhile here in Fort Collins it’s 10 degrees with about 6 inches of snow on the ground, and the low tonight is supposed to be -8. This has truly been a screwed up weather year, and it’s apparently determined to go out on a high note.
by BTown Birds fan on Dec 31, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
this guy in that AK town
got sucked out of his bedroom, and lived.
…by the tornado.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
sorry
Arkansas
my cold has graduated to the sinuses, so i’m kind of out of it. too bad, it’ll make alcohol redundant.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
It's mail-order handlers like you
That botch up all our deliveries to the great AK. I wonder how much of our state’s mail ends up in Arkansas and Alabama?
it has gotten real quiet over here
apparantly that’s a prelude to a tornado so my parents are making me go downstairs…
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 31, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Is there a reason you weren't already in your mother's basement?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
yes
a comfortable bed and a trashed basement…
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 31, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
this is no excuse.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
ksdk has footage from rolla
sounds like a war zone, though it looks deceptively clear
“oh shit”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
oh, by the way...
say goodbye to that nice warm weather. cold front ain’t frontin’.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
my cousins were freaked out in rolla & fort leonard wood
they saw it hit the ground & they ran to the basement. thankfully they are OK. lots of damage down there though. the family in Springfield didn’t see or hear anything.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
weird, I just had a dream before I woke up at noon that had a lot of tornadoes
hardly ever remember my dreams but this reminded me. they were attacking a city! crazy
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
do you dream about middle infields?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yes
It was a dream about a terrible riot. There was a slight tremor that made records skip. Eventually the damage went on for miles.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Dec 31, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
there was an under 4 earthquake in Indiana recently
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
earthquake activity has been hopped up all winter long
along the midwest
I haven’t checked lately, been busy.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yeah it seems they are slowly increasing in frequency
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
fuckin' 2012 man.....
I might as well walk off the job now and start drinking.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Dec 31, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
what do you have to worry about
you have kegs and missile silos
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
My grandfather made a good living
building those silos, now they’re just emptying them out and giving up on them. No respect for the hard work of my ancestors.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
how much to purchase one
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I don't know, but that would be a cool pick up line......
Hey there, want to come back to my missile silo?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
they look pretty cool
http://weburbanist.com/2010/07/25/nuclear-family-housing-life-in-a-missile-silo-home/
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
there's a nearly naked Chinese dude at the bottom of that post.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Also, step one to becoming a supervillan.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 31, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
it's really been localized in three areas
there’s the OK ones, the usual New Madrid ones, and this poor town in AK that gets it once or twice a week.
it struck me as unusual since late autumn, it’s usually more random.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
there was one in chicago
very light though
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
it was in central indiana though right?
my family is convinced new madrid is about to blow & destroy memphis & st louis.
i thought scientist said they think the reason the town in central arkansas is having so many is because of all the natural gas drilling & exploration going on?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Did they unwittingly awaken a foul creature
which lay dormant deep within the bowels of the darkness below us?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i've been to afraid to ask
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
nah, I'm talking about one that was over a year ago
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 1, 2011 4:35 AM EST up reply actions
I'm going to setup a second account
so I can rec and flag the same post.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 31, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
...went on for miles.
You take that back! Right now!
Scarier than the sky turning greene, huh?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
And then you saw the star of O'Ryan fading away
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 31, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
the dream involved being stuck inside of some coffee shop chain
like dunkin donuts or starbucks or something. it was at the edge of the city so the countryside was involved as well. there was also someone I hung out with but no one I know.
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
I had to lock the doors at Starbucks one day because of a tornado.
Customers were required to leave or join the employees in the women’s restroom until we got the all-clear to come out. It was weird.
especially once the porn music started playing.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Dec 31, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
BOOM CHICKA WOW WOW!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
read in the context of your old sig
this could potentially be a slasher movie.
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
too easy for spants
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
that's weird
I thought all public restrooms had a floor drain
making note of that…
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i guess the architect assumed
women had better aim..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
It was just half-assed.
The back room didn’t have a floor drain either. Which was great fun when the mop-sink drain backed up. Also, the front-of-house floor drains were higher than the floor.
it is fun
to watch the meteorologists get their geek on
“It’s OUR station now! MWAHAHAHA.”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
they're now in the We Save Lives portion.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I didn't check earlier, but they've reached the We Haven't Eaten or Slept or Bathed portion.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Mike Roberts caps his "can't finish sentences" schtick with dissing sports fans
the call for charity and help ends with “we measure our strength as a community in funny ways… we’re all great Cardinals fans, and Rams fans, and Blues fans, and we support them when they’re struggling, but there are more important ways to show” that we are awesome. /paraphrased
where will their megalomania end?? /tongue-in-cheek
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and they wrap it up with a Shout Out portion
also known as “It Was My Day Off”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Weather doesn't take a vacation Cindy
They should have taught you that in the 100 level classes.
by Merry CRasmus on Dec 31, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
like a horror movie, they're back.
to tell us there are no warnings.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'm ok with covering it
I’m just like you about all the backpatting though. Don’t tell me how much you sacrificed and how much of a public servant you are.
It’s like giving to charity. It’s a great thing to do. Once you start telling everybody about it repeatedly, you’ve just become an asshole.
by Merry CRasmus on Dec 31, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
i think they're just punchy
roberts got rambly, though. he’s gotta work on that.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Awww
It was supposed to be Cindy’s vacation day.
by Merry CRasmus on Dec 31, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Chris Carpenter will be 36 in April
Only 1 starter who was 36 or older in 2010 threw more than 140 innings — Derek Lowe. He was worth 2.7 fWAR and 1.7 rWAR. His age and productivity have to be a major concern for the 2011 season. Additionally, Jake Westbrook is 33. Only 15 starters in the majors who were 33 or older last season qualified for the ERA title (162+ innings). The lack of depth in our rotation has to be considered a major concern. Lohse hasn’t been healthy in 2 years and has stunk when he has pitched and it’s very likely that 1 or more of Carp and Westbrook will fail to pitch 162 innings. Who’s going to fill in? McClellan should be given the first crack but we all know that he won’t be b/c “he’s too valuable in the pen.”
The rotation, ostensibly, is a position of strength for the 2011 Cardinals but there could end up being some huge holes that could end up crippling the team.
by chuckb on Dec 31, 2010 12:41 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Well Happy Fucking New Year to you too, Chuck.
But seriously, Happy New Year.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Dec 31, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I remain unreasonable concerned that they're going to extend Carpenter
I’d like to see them let him walk at the end of the year and buyout his option.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
yep
but really, of all the options mentioned, i’d take souperman on an milb deal
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
i will choke all of you!!
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
please no
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 31, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I think that would be the best bet
but as long as Tony is the manager, do you really think there is a chance that happens?
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
I agree.
I would absolutely be thrilled if we signed Jeff Francis.
That being said, one of the 15 starters aged 33 or older who qualified for the ERA title was Chris Carpenter. Also, the Bill James projection on Carpenter is sick! Sick!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I could live with that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
me too
but if Carp throws another 235 innings this year, I really hope they don’t try to extend his contract
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
Francis or Duchscherer would be interesting.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I am a big Duchshchshchchshschhcshsshchshcerrrer fan
However, I’m just not certain some of these guys (Francis, Duke, even Penny) are going to sign on with a team where they’ll be the 6th starter/bullpen guy (although I’d be OK with Penny for a couple of mill, good risk I think as he looked genuinely excellent last year when he was healthy) – there are plenty of other teams where they could sign and be guaranteed to start. I think the only guys you can sign on minor league deals or as 6th starters are completely washed-up types like Rich Hill or never-has-beens.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 2, 2011 4:39 AM EST up reply actions
For instance....
Francis put up a sub-4.00 FIP last year in 100+ innings, and he’s not 30 yet. He’s been an above-average innings eater pretty much his entire career. I just don’t see him signing somewhere he’s not guaranteed to start.
Duchscherer is maybe an option, though. I’ve always liked him and he’s much more likely to sign as a bullpen guy, as that’s what he’s been most of his career.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 2, 2011 4:42 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, I completely agree that it's not realistic
And really, we couldn’t guarantee them a spot in the rotation, ever. Lohse is going to continue to start whether we like it or not, because of his contract. At this point I wouldn’t want Francis or Duchscherer taking a spot from any of the remaining four anyway. But it would be cool to see.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Yeah, I could live with that projection too.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
The Fans projection is pretty awesome too
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Also, the Cairo projections are out.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i was thinking about this while driving today
and the money we spent on Berkman, Theriot, and Westbrook. Basically the 3 of them combined = Cliff Lee, right? That would have made for an awesome rotation.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
apparently he digs the joys of Philly.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yeah, I can't help but wonder
if we would have been in line for the same type of discount since he is from AR.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
yeah, but there are some people from the midwest who no longer want to live there.
we can just get it over with and blame Cleveland.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ctown is not the midwest! look at a fucking map people!
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
but the longest either of them is signed is for 2 years
cliff lee got 7
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
Actually, he was signed for 5
with a vesting option for a sixth.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 1, 2011 2:48 AM EST up reply actions
This has
been my constant worry too, especially Chris’s age. I don’t James’ 2011 predictions with me just now, but I remember them, and worry that he might not even reach that level (mainly because he seems to be declining somewhat every year, including injury effects). The post in general, showing the lack of depth, is as good reason as any for my new year’s spree tonight.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Dec 31, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
way to bring everyone down chuck, damn that's depressing
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I started a fanpost series about 4 options at third base from the Cardinals
first one is about David Freese
read, people: http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/12/30/1904814/the-hot-corner-2011-player-profiles-david-freese
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 1:33 PM EST reply actions
I really hope they sign Penny or someone that would agree to go between rotation and bullpen if needed
although Augenstein looks encouraging to me. his projected for a FIP around 4, so even if he doesn’t live up to the projection, he may not be that bad. but as you say, he’s an unknown in the majors, maybe not the best 6th starter option. hopefully Lynn would not be too bad either.
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 1:38 PM EST reply actions
Penny can suck it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
yeah
who else though? hopefully not the Sup man
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
duh
we should sign dream weaver
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Jeff Francis
If the market is really that weak for him, I’d like to take a chance with an incentive loaded 1 year deal. I would normally stay away from shoulder issues, but at least you know he pitched last year. Had great control too, which is a good sign. Guessing someone like the Pirates can offer him a more certain role though.
by Merry CRasmus on Dec 31, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutely.
We should sign Francis, and quickly. 3.88 FIP last season. And he appears to be undervalued on the market. I think it could be a great, low-cost signing to deepen the rotation. I hope Mo signs him.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Chris Young
he hasn’t signed with anyone yet, has he? I think I like him a bit more than Francis, but I’d be happy if they signed either one of the two.
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
And with Pujols as a teammate he would probably avoid getting destroyed by him again.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
His fly ball tendency
Could limit our interest, though I’m not sure how much that matters anymore.
by Merry CRasmus on Dec 31, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
i'd take him over almost anyone, but it looks like the pond scum are signing him
he should fit right in at citi field if he’s healthy
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I read on Rotoworld that the Mutts
would prefer to trade rather than go after a “Chris Young” type, whose value apparently is “heating up”.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 1, 2011 2:53 AM EST up reply actions
HE'S ON FIIIIIRE!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 2, 2011 4:44 AM EST up reply actions
I read
somewhere recently, but can’t remember where, that somehow Penny used his injury as an excuse or something to that effect, and Cardinal management was not amused, and would not consider him again under any circumstances.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Dec 31, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
wtf
i managed to cut open my hand. without noticing it.
VEB is dangerous!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
VEB: Beware of sharp edges
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 31, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
i keep the keyboard under the main table top
must’ve pulled out too quickly.
[…waits for it.]
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
myterui's mom has a sad.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
spant's knife giggles in the corner
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
damn, you'd think by 2011 i'd be good at grammar & stuff
how about, spants’s knife evilly laughs in the corner?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i don't know what that is
therefore it is stupid!
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
Well, guys and gals, this will be my last comment of 2010.
Barring unforseen disaster.
Here’s to the Cards of 2011, all the drunken shenanigans to come and all the hangovers that have passed, to Viva El Birdos and all you brilliant people.
Happy New Year team, have a good one.
Now lets get f’n wasted!
Starting a bit late, aren't you?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
what is
late? It is only 5:21. Lots of time yet!
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Dec 31, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
Laclede Cab (314) 652-TAXI
St. Louis County / Yellow Cab 314-993-TAXI
Ask your bartender to call a cab if you can’t.
Don’t Fucking Drink And Drive.
Thank you.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 31, 2010 2:08 PM EST reply actions
... please don't post that jumbo picture of Dan, though.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 31, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think it might be a long wait for me.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
But by the time they get there, you'll be sober.
Mission: Accomplished.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 31, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
This is very true.
Have a gameplan for not drinking and driving tonight, whether it’s a DD or having the cab number ready.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
mine involves the CTA
bus me around, yo
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
blue line too
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
free fare tonight!
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
mine involves staying in the basement
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Look familiar?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 1, 2011 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
it's like looking in a mirror. a sad, sad mirror
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
just invite me
i am always the d-dee
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
by d-dee on Dec 31, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
bad pun.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
but it's true..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
Are the St. Louis County cabs still red and white?
I used to take one every once in awhile when I was a kid, to get home from school.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 31, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, they still run both the StL Co red & white
and the Yellow Cab liveries.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 31, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
okay so google was down for a few minutes and now it's really slow
anyone having the same issues?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
for some reason I thought that was a picture of Wellemeyer, not Walters
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 2:53 PM EST reply actions
Still having nightmares, I see.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
yeah, I was still a little rattled by the multiple tornadoes in my dream last night
and that ominous sky…
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
actually, this morning
I was still sleeping
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
writing a blog in which you disagree with literally everyone else on the subject has to be tiring
I’m not surprised he can’t keep it going.
I assume this means he is replacing Joe Morgan.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
I hope that any VEBers in South Co. are okay
I just saw on the news that the severe weather/tornadoes hit that area fairly hard. Some houses looked pretty much obliterated. Rough way to end the year. I just hope that everyone’s okay.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Dec 31, 2010 3:53 PM EST reply actions
I'm good
Which part of Soco has been hit? Over at Affton, everything seems fine from the basement… (of course I have neither checked the news nor been outside)
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 31, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Sunset Hills
Some in Fenton and Ballwin. Also in north St. Louis.
by Merry CRasmus on Dec 31, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
What Merry CRasmus said...
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Dec 31, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Parts of Crestwood had some t-storm damage, too.
Which makes sense since it’s right next to Sunset Hills.
And if there is a god, he/she hates north St. Louis.
Dumpster Dives
As Dan noted there are several dumpster dive-type pitchers out there. Francis looks interesting, though the history of a disintegrating left-shoulder is very troubling. He threw 104 innings at a FIP clip of 3.88, with an outstanding walk rate (1.98). Like I said though, I’d be worried the Cardinals were just adding another walking injury to the rotation of once-seriously-injured pitchers.
Oh… so this is interesting… I was poking around at MLB Trade Rumors and Braden Looper is listed as a FA. He didn’t pitch at all last year. I’m certainly not advocating the acquisition of Mr. Looper, I just think it’s interesting that not a single team thought “Ah, what the hell.” Then again he wasn’t all that good in 2009. Anyway, interesting.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Dec 31, 2010 4:05 PM EST reply actions
I'm still amazed at how well Looper did for the Cardinals
it seemed like he was always getting out of some tight jam with alarming regularity. I just don’t think he’ll have that kind of luck anymore.
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
I'm actually surprised nobody grabbed him
and moved him back to the pen. I mean, the Cards transitioned him more as a “we need starters” move rather than a “you can’t throw in the pen anymore” type of move. He’d probably be a decent long man.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Interesting
He wasn’t all that good of a starter or a reliever, but in the ’pen he could throw pretty hard at least. Still, a lot worse things have happened to people than being a serviceable major league reliever and starter.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Dec 31, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
blech...
our 6th pitcher should be the bullpen. Have PJ Walters pitch every inning we’re either up by 5 or behind by 5, if we’re carrying 13 in the pen, eight relievers should be able to throw 20 innings or so per five games.
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
Weird
Kind of crazy that he was able to have two almost-average years as as starting pittcher. He struck out, what, less than five per nine innings I think. He wasn’t exactly a ground ball specialist if I remember. Actually, now that I actually look it up Fangraphs says it was in the 40’s in groundball %. Don’t know how high that is comparatively since they don’t have the “show averages” button for all the stats.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Perhaps the most awesome gif ever.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Dec 31, 2010 4:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Is that from a rabbit with a camcorder?
by BTown Birds fan on Dec 31, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
No idea, but it's cool.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
whoops, make that jesses
trained bird
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Baseball-Reference.com subscription
Because I received checks for Christmas this year from family instead of gifts, I’m indulging myself by subscribing to baseball statistics websites. I wanted to ask for the community’s opinion on any suggestions. I’ve heard good things about the baseball-reference.com subscription. If anyone has it, could you give me some insight? Also, that goes for any other sites. I would very much appreciate it.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
you going to sponsor anyone?
someone said the price was steep, though.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That's an interesting proposition.
I wonder who I could sponsor. I’m pretty picky. If sponsor $35 in pages, I get a subscription reductions…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
aight yo
Tomorrow is Ozzie 93 in Albertofstan, and one day closer to the days of Albert.
TURN IT UP TO ELEVEN
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
11
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 31, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this
I might as well pen the Post-Dispatch’s yearly “Kyle McClellan: Starter or Reliever?” article now. (They can run that article on Feb. 17th one day after they run the article on how Lance Berkman is in the best shape of his life.)
is not cool
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Huge portions of Sunset Hills are without power
including all the traffic lights. Watson is going to be a mess come 1am.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 31, 2010 7:50 PM EST reply actions
Happy New Year's!
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 31, 2010 8:36 PM EST reply actions
Dear St. Louis Children's Hospital
You suck.
My wife got called in for other people being sick more than any other resident the entire year, in the span of one week. She was supposed to be on call tonight (working overnight at the hospital on New Year’s Eve, which wouldn’t be awesome in itself) but then you made her sick with a nasty G.I. bug from all your damn germs, and she had to come home. So now she feels like crap and we are spending our New Years watching boring bowl games. She would much rather work New Years Eve than be this sick.
If you ever ask me for money later in life, I am going to write back and say that actually, you owe me, for stealing my wife away for several years.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Everything I learned about doctors and hospitals
I learned by watching Scurbs
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 31, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
is that what they're calling residents these days?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
well Happy New Year VEB, here's hoping 2011 brings us many wins, a flag & a big ring in October
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
by gdm426 on Dec 31, 2010 10:19 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Happy New Year, everybody!
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 1, 2011 1:03 AM EST reply actions
damn, I'm pretty drunk
cta got me home, despite the weird train ride
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 1, 2011 4:38 AM EST reply actions
Congrats on getting home.
Do tell about the train ride. If it’s anything like your last dream, it oughta be a good one.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 1, 2011 5:10 AM EST up reply actions
the train ride and the bus ride were kinda weird
very drunk girl with her top barely staying on rambling about who knows what (I can’t remember what she was saying but her boyfriend (presumably) was at least holding her up. the train was stalled at one point for like 10 minutes, was trying to talk to my friend across the aisle but the train was super crowded and I couldn’t see him even though he was really close. wasn’t that weird, but in my very drunken state it seemed awkward. wish I could remember what they were talking about, but I remember looking at other passengers and seeing their faces goin like wat??
the bus had some odd looking creature, I’m not sure if it was a man or woman. tight body suit, chubby, blonde died hair with colored spots. lots of drunkeness everywhere. I didn’t have to spend money on the CTA at all last night and the bus pulled up as we got to the bus stop, so it was a success
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 1, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
I imagine that was an interesting time.
Being drunk can always make mundane things take on a whole new light.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 1, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
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