Christmas Eve Eve Thread
I'm going to be honest: I have nothing to say today. The closest I've come to the St. Louis Cardinals over the last two days is a little Christmas Break Baseball Mogul readdiction; the closest the Cardinals have come to doing something interesting over the last two days is—to be honest, I don't even have anything with which to balance this side of the sentence. They've done nothing interesting. The negotiations re: Albert Pujols's contract are being performed via legilimency. (Note: This is a fanon interpretation of legilimency, and also sports agents.)
It is the day before the day before Christmas, and holiday creep dictates that pretty soon we will celebrate it for some reason. As for baseball discussion, I'm pretty intrigued by the following ZiPS projections, since we haven't quite hit them square yet:
Daniel Descalso: .268/.330/.394. This strikes me as really high, and also kind of exciting. That's about what I was expecting out of Felipe Lopez last year, right down to the atrocious defense at shortstop, but without a platoon advantage to exploit I'm worried Descalso will have trouble finding time at second base behind Skip Schumaker (.276/.333/.365).
Bryan Anderson (.261/.319/.387) and Gerald Laird (.240/.302/.342).
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it really is the most boringest time of year
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Only 4 Those of U Without Santa Cows...
http://foodforthoughtediblebooks.blogspot.com/2010/12/santa-cows.html
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
Descalso struck me as kind of crazy high too
is there anyone who has watched the three play that would guess that over a season Stav. Freese, and Descalso would be the same hitter in 2010?
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
I had to look up the two made up words in this post
And I still don’t know what this means:
This is a fanon interpretation of legilimency, and also sports agents
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
Fanon is what fans add to a shows canon, based on their interpretation
This is what kept the show Lost afloat
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 23, 2010 7:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I got that
But I’m still confused about what the sentence means.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 23, 2010 7:12 AM EST up reply actions
My guess
is that he’s acknowledging that legilimency does not, canonically, mean telepathy, but he’s using the word in that sense because it’s cool. Vulgar writers like Shakespeare and Dickens often assert this privilege.
Syntactically, something may be missing in the second phrase: either “of” before “sports” to indicate that he is also advancing a fanon interpretation of “sports agents”, or an apostrophe after “agents” to indicate that this is the interpretation of “legilimency” employed by agents, too. If either of those means anything, you’re home free.
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
by alberich on Dec 23, 2010 8:15 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
im guessing you dont want me to get involved in this discussion!
:-)
Milt Thompson FTW!
Sports agent
yes, this made up word, well, actually, two words as one phrase, is a mythological beastie, one of the very few, along with Sasquatch and others, that originated in the U.S. It was first spotted on golf courses, then later tennis courts, and eventually migrated from those venues to the rest of the “sports” world, where, occasionally, it makes raids from its dark, dank lair into the bright lights of the media. Some say that it has its origin in the halls of law schools, while others claim that it escaped directly from Hell.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 23, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I hate larussa
This is all
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 23, 2010 7:04 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Have you done your airing of grievances yet?
by CodyG on Dec 23, 2010 7:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
There are none left to air
after the reactions to the Boog trade.
Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: The Riot 4, Rasmus 8, Pujols 3, Holliday 9, Berkman 7, Freese/Craig 5, Molina 2, pitcher, Greene 6
then on to the "feats of strength"
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
I don't wanna know what some VEB'ers are gonna do with the Festivus Pole
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
somehow I'm guessing they'll tell us anyway.
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
There's just a little too much latitude to work with there.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Well I'm going to stab someone with it.
by spants on Dec 23, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You're quite literally the most frightening person I know.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
you must not get around
oh, right. fiancee.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
unless you meant it .... figuratively...!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
you do know that spants does literally stab people
st louis’ crime stats have gotten worse for a reason
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
Yeah CodyG kind of pisses me off too
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
by TomCat009 on Dec 23, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
some call it crime, some call it justice
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
That's a cleaver.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
That oughta haunt Rui for a while.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Apparently, there are no 3 day waiting periods for knives around here.
Joined today @2:44, commented @ 2:46.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
do you want to tell that thing it isn't allowed here?
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
I think it's azru.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
waiting periods are for handguns only in Missouri
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
It's the offseason,
they’re needing body-count. I just didn’t think it would be literally.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
It's probably just quietly slipped right through.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
/bannedfromLL
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
does this mean we will have another new poster?
mysterui’s ghost? or will it be mysterui’s corpse?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
it's a mystery
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
yes yes yes a thousand times yes
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
spants' knife's possessive puncutation is wrong
you would think our mods would catch that before approving such a sn
/azru’d
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I'm doing a project
Calculating total career WAR of all cardinal draft picks between 1995-2005. Will take average total WAR per draft and compare to other orginization’s during same time period. I’ve looked around the interwebs to make sure I’m not reinventing the wheel. Haven’t found anything like it. Am I missing it? Has this been done? It’s pretty tedious work, do I’ll stop if it’s been done, but I really wanted to see results on statistical level
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 23, 2010 8:24 AM EST via mobile reply actions
we're all counting on you.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
wow, that one hasn't been used for awhile
it usually led to a Cardinals win, but I don’t know what it might lead to in the offseason
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
I was gonna use rally's for the WAR
More accessible on b-r?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 23, 2010 1:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah
click “draft”, sort by org and year, and it’ll add it all up for you. For instance, in 2001, the Cards drafted 7 guys who played in the majors and they have produced 30.1 WAR to date.
Although it seems to include guys we drafted but didn’t sign (IE, Kevin Correia, ian Kennedy, etc) so you’ll have to be vigilant.
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
Wow
That makes my life a lot easier
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 23, 2010 1:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yea
I realized that when it told me Colby only had 2.4WAR. gonna have to do some searching afterall
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 23, 2010 2:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
To me, as I said in FR
it’s OK for the value for non-signed people to be included. They still reflect the way the Cardinals are identifying talent, which is good to know.
StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
by StanTheManFan on Dec 23, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure about that
How do you separate scouting and developing?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
For my purposes
I’m just gonna look at those who actually played in our organization
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 23, 2010 2:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Question for a slow day
I’m going to go back and start buying BB card complete sets to fill out my collection. I stopped collecting many years ago. I’m going to try to get sets back to 1960. I’m not interested in the “investment” — just want to have sets I can look through for all the years. I know Fleer and donruss had sets in 90’s and that there are hundreds of special sets. I’m thinking of getting just the standard sets and the Traded sets. Are there any other specilaized sets I should consider? Any thoughts out there on what quality range I should be shooting for, how to store them, best way to buy them, etc. When I have a choice between Donruss, Fleer and Topps which ones are the best in each year?
Just win
I used to collect as a kid
I always went Topps for some reason (I’m not really sure why) – have the complete sets from ’87 to ’93.
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
that being said
I always thought Fleer cards were pretty cool, probably because of the glossy finish they put on the cards.
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
My days were
raided by Upper Deck, but I couldn’t afford them, so I bought Topps. 1987 Topps with the wood-grain finish was my all-time favorite. Steve Garvey looked like a complete badass.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
1983 Topps
were the bomb IMHO. Two pictures: the normal in-action one, and a smaller head-shot in the lower corner.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 23, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
I have a couple of Michael Jordans from the Upper Deck series
from 1991; wide variation in what these are going for online. Anywhere from $3.98 up to $75; redickulous.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 23, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
This is a mess but fun
Honestly. I used to do the same thing. Ebay really drove prices up. That said, I’d concentrate on 1 brand that has been there the whole time OR simply choose the brand that looks the best that year. After all, if you’re collecting them to look at, who wants ugly cards?
Craigslist is your friend. Check it often, and maybe even try nearby cities if you think you might get people to ship stuff. once in a while you find a divorcee or ex girlfriend who’s dumping the man’s stuff, or you find a broker who is selling stuff for people. I drop in the day they post the ad and make it clear I’m paying cash and I’m reliable.
I don’t think the Traded sets offer much value UNLESS you know there’s a rookie in that set that you want. Case in point: years and years ago, I thought “I should protect my Pujols rookie card.” I’d been buying sets each year up through like 2003 or 2004. Guess what? Pujols was in the Traded set that year. That basically convinced me to stop buying sets. heh.
Basic Topps sadly is the only year by year set that maintained any sort of consistency
If you are just going for one brand from every year I’d go for Topps. If you want to save money on eBay go for hand-collated sets instead of the factory set. Factory sets get premium prices because collectors know that the cards are in mint (or near mint) condition. Since you aren’t interested in the investment factor, I wouldn’t worry too much about condition, since most sellers on eBay keep their cards in pretty good condition. Unless you really enjoy “the chase” I would also avoid unopened packs and wax boxes, since these tend to be over priced, plus it is just really difficult to get a complete set only through opening packs.
If you like full-bleed cards, i.e. no full border around the card, then there are the Upper Deck sets from 1994-2009. These cards generally were produced and/or sold in lower quantities than Topps cards, therefore can be more difficult to find now.
I terms of other card sets to recommend, there are plenty of baseball card blogs that will give you a better idea of what is out there. I’d recommend Night Owl Cards, Cardboard Junkie, and Stale Gum to start learning more about the hobby.
In terms of storage, if you want to look at your cards, I’d recommend using the 9-card plastic sheets. Individual boxes of 100 sheets run $10-15. If you really plan on this route, I’d get a case of sheets with 10 boxes that can be had for less than $100 if you are patient. The advantages of sheets are, you can easily look at through the pages and easily tell what, if any, cards you are missing.
The other option is to use standard card storage boxes, these are a fraction of the cost and take up much less space than the plastic sheets. However, if you acquire your sets in a piecemeal fashion, you would have to go through your sets by hand to determine what you are missing, or maintain a separate “want list” that can be rather time consuming to put together.
if you are building sets
it’s a good idea to make an excel spreadsheet where you can cross off 792 numbers/names so you can just pull up a file and see which cards you are missing.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
If it were me
I would go only Topps and get the main 792 card sets, the traded sets, and try to find the tiffany and tiffany traded sets too. Topps Tiffany cards are where it’s at.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
the cards are now diamonds.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
that's a hoot
things have changed since I last was paying attention. I especially like the instructions for opening a psa slab — I don’t know what a psa slab is, but it sounds like an Ocean’s 11 operation
Just win
i'm assuming he's referring to trying to take a graded card out of it's "slab"
Sometimes professional grading can actually bring down the value of a card if it’s not graded well.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Tiffany sets
were extremely glossy versions of the main and traded sets They looked the exact same, but just glossier and were numbered the same as teh regular set just with at TT at the beginning. They were only printed as factory sets and are pretty rare. Most have been divided up as some contain pretty valuable cards. I have the ‘89 Tiffany Randy Johnson RC. It’s a beauty.
wiki link
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
nevermind about the TT thing
apparently they have the same numbers as the main set
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
that laird/anderson comp is sickening
what the hell are we gonna do with the kid? if he’s not good enough to be our backup catcher, he isn’t much use as trade bait. i get that backup catcher is a low impact spot and that Anderson is unlikely to be a star, but i think you should use good asset management on a consistent basis throughout your system. properly leveraging multiple marginal prospects can still produce not-insignificant returns down the road.
/end rant
OK, I'll jump in. . .
to bat this about:
1) Projections are not gospel.
2) There is still no metric which even pretends to accurately capture catcher defense.
3) It is probably better for BAnderson’s development to play every day in AAA rather than twice a month in the Lou. He still is just young after all, just turning 24yo a week ago today, and it’s not like he tore up AAA last year (270/341/448).
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 23, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
I'm struggling
as to why Anderson for a full year at AAA is a bad thing. Yadi is likely to play 120-140 games. What good does it do to have a young catcher in the Laird role. Are we really saying that the million or so that we save is worth that. If his ZIPS are really that good, let’s see the guy rip up AAA and see where we end up.
I’d like to go into 2012 with a young catcher ready to step in and start — maybe Molina becomes trade bait. I would think catcher is one of those positions where erring on the side of too much minor league experience is a good thing.
Just win
Anderson has been in AAA since 2008.
He’s never got a full season of PAs because the club picks shitty players over him (see Pagnozzi, Matt). What more is he going to learn after three years in AAA? How is it not better for him to be exposed to the major league pitchers (both offensively and defensively), understudy Yadier Molina and get acclimated to the next level?
The team is better with Anderson in a MLB backup role in 2011. They are then better situated for 2012 and beyond.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
I''ll play. . .
>> What more is he going to learn after three years in AAA?
You said it yourself, he has yet to get a full season in PAs in AAA. Playing everyday at a high level is (at least theoretically) wholly different from being a part-time player. He’s just barely 24; it’s not like he’s going to over-ripen. And he hasn’t exactly torn AAA up with the bat, either. And to the extent that he has room to grow defensively, wouldn’t you rather he be making his mistakes in AAA, and away from the critical eye of TLR?
>> How is it not better for him to be exposed to the major league pitchers (both offensively and defensively), understudy Yadier Molina and get acclimated to the next level?
It might be better for his grab-ass playing skills, or his sunflower seed spitting skills, but there is no way, barring an injury to YMolina, that either BAnderson or GLaird gets more than 125 PAs. Getting 5 PAs a week in the majors is no way to develop a player who would be on the younger side of AAA.
>> The team is better with Anderson in a MLB backup role in 2011. They are then better situated for 2012 and beyond.
I might agree with the first sentence, although it’s by no means a no-brainer, and in any event the difference is likely to be small, given the PAs that Cards’ back-up catchers get behind YMolina. The second sentence is unlikely to be true. I’d rather have a 25yo catcher who has just put up a 300/360/430 line in AAA in a full season’s worth of PAs than a 25yo catcher who has just put up a 261/319/387 line in 125 PAs in the majors. The first is an asset, the latter is, well, a back-up catcher.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 23, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
I think all of the other catchers on the roster
got 145 PA total, with The Catcher Formerly Known As PornStache getting the most at 63. I could see the total moving closer to 175 PA or so, but unless we have only one player sub in for Yadi, it will be hard for any one back-up to get to 125.
Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.
Yes, but. . .
YMolina was hurt and shut down after the Cards were eliminated last season, hence my “barring an injury to YMolina” qualifier.
If YMolina gets hurt, you have to assume that if BAnderson is performing well in AAA, he would get called up, and probably be given the chance to be the starter, unless GLaird is tearing it up.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 23, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
. . .
YMolina was hurt and shut down after the Cards were eliminated last season,
This is the reason Anderson makes sense. He could play more often, giving Molina more rest.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
true
but one of the teams stated goals for this offseason was to find a backup catcher who could add some offense and take the load off of Yadi. I’d have to think that TLR would be involved in making that a priority.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
It'll be a priority as soon as Tony retires.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
you're cornfused
jmo wanted a more offensive catcher, not the team (ie, tlr)
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
It's pretty common
For minor league Catchers to only catch ~50% of the games. Anderson had the lion share of Innings Caught for the Redbirds last year.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Let's accept that premise.
What is the goal of keeping him in AAA? I think Bryan Anderson is what he is at this point. An offensive oriented player who is likely not much more than a backup catcher/platoon partner for a right handed catcher. He’s an ideal match to keep Molina fresh. Laird isn’t regarded as a defensive wizard. It’s nonsensical.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
well there's your problem....
You’re expecting the Cardinals roster machinations to make sense.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
It's a common affliction.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
If that is your opinion of. . .
BAnderson, then I would agree with you that Laird doesn’t make any sense.
I think it is reasonable, however, to believe that BAnderson has not yet reached his ceiling, either offensively or defensively.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 23, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
he can't reach that ceiling unless he's given a chance
staying in the AAA OPS’ing .800 isn’t going to help him reach it either
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 23, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
How much better is the team
With Anderson for 125 ABs with his defense versus Laird and his defense? Seems neglible to me.
If we had a weak starter I’d be happy to give him a shot, but no one in the organization thinks his defense is ready yet — it’s really not even close — has there been one person who has said that he’s ready defensively. I don’t think this is TLR — I think the whole organization thinks he’s not ready.
I’d rather take the view that he comes up and starts if Molina goes down, assuming he is playing well in AAA. Gotta think catching 600-800 innings and 400 ABs is the best thing for him.
Just win
plus if Laird bounces back and Anderson starts hot
the LAD might be willing to part with a B prospect to get laird at the deadline, especially if they are 7 or so back
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
terrible rationalization - we did this last year for every move
and we turned a 90ish win team into an 86 win team thanks to acquisitions of Feliz Miles, Winn, LaRue…..
we need to end this crap NOW
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 23, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
but we have ended the crap
our bench as of today is laird, greene, descalso, craig and jay. How can that be a downgrade? Anderson replacing Laird doesn’t add any value.
Just win
I'll be convinced of that in August.
Last year we started with Craig and Mather. That lasted about a month.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
it's a downgrade
because it’s not an upgrade.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 23, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
that's what we thought last year
if you will notice, everyone I mentioned with the exception of LaRue (who is comparable to Laird), was signed midseason.
and our original bench was young and gradually replaced by has-beens – or in miles case never-was.
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 23, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
But it wasn't that they were replaced.
You are completely neglecting injury to Freese, trade of Ludwick and whatever it is that happened to Lopez. Injuries etc left the bench shorthanded and miscast forcing moves in my opinion. The problem was the parts brought in were just not that good. Except for the Miles promotion, which was befuddling, all the signings happened at times we needed to add a player. As I already stated, the problem was Winn and Feliz were terrible.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose and sometime it rains.
that is not the cardinal way
unless you recognize that tlr defines asset classes, not jmo et al
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
I don't think anyone has argued that Anderson wouldn't likely be
an offensive upgrade to Laird. The point is that DD (and possibly/likely the pitchers themselves) don’t think Anderson is ready defensively. Since the comp doesn’t address at all the reason why the team prefers Laird to Anderson, why is it “sickening”?
Moreover, how many other 24y/o offense-first catchers do you see performing backup catching duties across the majors? Not too many.
I’d be fine with Anderson – though I doubt DD or the pitchers would be — but if he spends the year in AAA, it really doesn’t matter.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 23, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
sickening because
he seems to be getting jerked around, then when his performance understandably struggles, it is used as further evidence of his un-readiness…being a part-timer in AAA isnt going to get him any closer to the big club, or raise his prospect stock.
How is he getting "jerked around"?
Anderson is a 24 y/o catcher who hasn’t impressed the major league staff with his defensive catching prowess and hasn’t lit up AAA offensively either. How does sending him to AAA jerk him around? Did he OPS .900 last year in Memphis and I missed it?
What has been said about his “unreadiness” by anyone in the org – like DD — other than they don’t think he’s ready defensively? Moreover, what evidence is there that he is ready defensively? Telling a just-turned 24 y/o catcher that does not have a good defensive reputation that he is not yet ready to handle a DD-coached staff in the major leagues is not jerking someone around. It’s giving him something to work on.
To your comment that Anderson continuing to work on being a better baseball player in AAA “isn’t going to get him any closer to the big club or raise his prospect stock” — basis?
Why wouldn’t working to become a better defensive catcher “get him closer to the big club”? And one could easily argue that his prospect stock could be raised by lighting up AAA next year as a 24y/o (i.e., above the .750 OPS he’s managed to cobble together there so far).
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 23, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
being a part timer doesnt help
if he isnt gonna be the starter in memphis, he might as well sit on the bench and watch/learn from yadi in STL. you get better at defense at practice, so he can work on it anywhere.
think if we write a letter to tony...
We can get skip to go play on a girls softball team.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
i'll take him on my team!
but he will have to play RCF.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Cardinals to be toasted
TLR to be roasted. It’s entirely too bad that it won’t be on a spit and over a fire.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 10:28 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
damn it, I was consolidating my comment.
couldn’t you wait a millisecond
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 23, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
Hey, it's not often I get to scoop you on one.
I’ll get back in line now.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
actually I was delayed
by finding out Matt Carpenter has no tag. this was confusing and saddening.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 23, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
I knew there had to be a reason.
I was genuinely surprise you hadn’t gotten that one up yet.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
i kept...typing and typing his name... over and over again... wondering if it's a horrible sbning... then it would bring up the other Carpenter
I need another cup of coffee.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 23, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
What the hell kind of award is Bourn getting?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
I suspect it's Houston's DK award. i *think* there's one for each team.
but can’t Houston have their own party? did it all end when Fat Elvis left the building?
tweet goold and demand answers
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 23, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
I'll have to FB him.
I can’t bring myself to tweet.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
get the collective to do it
where is our army of tweeters?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 23, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Apparently somebody named Gene Starks just asked that question.
Are you Gene Starks?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
I don't have a twitter.
[cue outcry and alarm]
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 23, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
This is on FB.
cue laughter and incessant giggling
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
i'm gonna get that flask now
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 23, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
The answer is:
/ drum roll
He won the Lou Brock Award. Apparently Lou likes to give it in person.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
HOW IN THE WORLD DO YOU NOT HAVE A TWITTER
there, feel better?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
i bet you all wish i didn't
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
fang? Is that you?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I guess I shouldn't tell you that I haven't had any caffiene yet today.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
so you're saying I should break out the alcohol?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 23, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Not yet.
But if somebody as out of touch as me can beat ya, you may need something extra in your coffee.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
to the flask, then...
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 23, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
disclaimer
VEB does not actually advocate excessive use of alcohol. It may not look like it, but we’re professionals. Don’t try this at home.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HSGFPmoJaE
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 23, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Nothing like a wide awake drunk in the middle of the day.
F’in kids only think they invented it with their Jager and Red Bull.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
we may be professionals, but we still don't get paid
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
well, probably my bad. my legilimency sucks.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 23, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
oh, now ony wants to have a sense of humor about things. Hah. I bet he takes a roast about as well as George Bluth.
I hope Kline flips him off again.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
That would almost be worth the $150
That was one of the first thoughts that came into my head when I saw Kline on the guest list.
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 23, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
I think that was a universal thought.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
fanshot
and what is this?? it’s SBN’s sign-in page. http://cdn2.sbnation.com/images/accounts/accounts-sbnguy.vbbb03bd.jpg
how does bcb make it on but not the Eye?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
in other news, that means Matthew is a Real Cardinal now.
either that, or they were glad the presence of his kids killed the mix tapes
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 23, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
Your Thursday morning Christmas win:

by RollBirdsRoll on Dec 23, 2010 10:44 AM EST reply actions 9 recs
I lol'ed!
So did my wife.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 23, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
and greeenage
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
speaking of twitter, an Abbamondi follow-up which I missed
dgoold: Abbamondi will be a VP with #Padres. Second front office member to leave #stlcards this winter.
about 19 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
barton1d: @dgoold any idea on a replacement?
about 14 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to dgoold
dgoold: @barton1d I’m told @bjrains has applied.
about 13 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to barton1d
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 23, 2010 10:49 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
That is really funny and completely terrifying at the same time.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
i recced
for goold, not you. Oh wait, thats right, you are goold.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Actually, he's a conundrum.
Y2S told me to ask DG what award Bourn was getting and DG knew the answer……wait, you don’t think Y2S is messing with me, do ya?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
just trying to cover for himself
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
But, damn does he twitter.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 23, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
But seriously this is really really really good for me
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Especially this!
Mozeliak, who was assistant general manager before being promoted to his current position, said he plans to take some time to evaluate candidates for the position, and that his intent is to look internally first.
Please be Sig Mejdal please be Sig Mejdal
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I'll fight you for an internship
First one to get something with the Cardinals gets to force a sig change.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 23, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not trying to get an internship
So suck it
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
What are you trying to get a fucking job?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 23, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
oh
good luck
(/snickers)
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 23, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
prick.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
what was your major? and are you looking in STL?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Economics and I'm looking at either STL/KC so I can be reasonably close to my fiancee
The Cardinals are easily the better shot though, both in the departures and that I already have a connection
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
you should probably go to grad school.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Probably will if a job in baseball doesn't work out
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
oh i was thinking you'd have a better chance of getting a baseball job if you had a masters degree
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I honestly just want to find a low-level job and work my way up from there
I don’t think having more education is going to help my cause
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
And because KC probably doesn't have a real front office...
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 23, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
I was looking through their front office personnel
They’re almost all old school scouting types, with MAYBE one “stats” guy (…and I’m only assuming that because he’s Asian)
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
You mean Jin Wong?
Yeah I was told to talk to him last year. Never emailed me back (or I never emailed him in the first place).
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 23, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah... I emailed him yesterday, no answer
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Jin was a player in the Atlanta org.
From what I remember. Met him a couple times when I was trying to get a job in their front office. No dice. Got a law degree thinking that would help me but it really just saddles you with debt and limits the options on the kind of job you can take due to the low salary. I gave up after I graduated. Good luck to you though.
Official sponsor of Fat Jesus.
Wash U has a great Econ department
although you are probably a Krugman type
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
I have absolutely no desire to study Econ in grad school
If I go, it’d be to get an MBA or something
Though honestly, I’d rather my parents just give me the money they would spend on grad school and let me go on an entrepreneurial endeavor that’s been circling my mind the last few weeks
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I imagine as busy as your mom has been
she should have plenty socked away
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
by TomCat009 on Dec 23, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
look it is obligitory at this point
without giving up the plan, what is the general biz idea?
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
Taking advantage of an underutilized market in my hometown
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
male mud wrestling?
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
sorry GDM is already opening a shop
in your hometown with all three under one roof. He got a grant from something called “Project Bootstrap”
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
how the hell did you find out about this?
sonofabiatch you can’t keep anything a secret these days
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
So your finally putting your mom on the corner, then?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
gimp mask production?
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
distributor caps for 95 toyota corollas?
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
hey hey, that's my market.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Maybe your mom could call in some favors.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
saw that coming
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
oddly enough,
so did mysterui’s mom.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I was lead to believe she only gave out favors
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
is that extra?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
OT: Cleveland finally found out how to make a visit to the ballpark fun.
Maybe we could throw snowballs at Tony
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 11:10 AM EST reply actions
uh, you'd think i'd have heard about this, that looks cool
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Road flares are always handy.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
not only handy,
but necessary when starting a bon-fire in the snow.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
excellent point
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Some or all of the items in
the zombie apocalypse survival kit.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 23, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
free overnight shipping???
damn i feel like buying more presents just because
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Oh hey look I'm a lawyer and I have money to spend
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
excellent last minute gift idea: 2011 calendars.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Matching toilet seat cover, toilet rug, and bath mat
plus coordinating shower curtain and hand towels.
Does that scream “romantic Christmas” or wut?
Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.
I am currently using Booze as filler gifts
I got 2 bottle of Bourbon and 6 bottles of wine in my car right now
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 23, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Sure
last minute … “gifts”
Hey why is this one open and a third empty already?
Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.
Couldn't give ya a gift that wasn't up to standards.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing says Happy Holidays like a gift from the liquor department at Walgreens.
/actual tag line from a commercial several years ago.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 23, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
screw you
Didn’t Walgreen’s just start reselling liquor recently?
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 23, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
i read this as
didn’t walgreeen’s screw you?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
amazon needs to worry about
getting the package that was supposed to be delivered on tuesday to me. for three days, the latest event has been a departure scan in houston.
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 23, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Well if it makes you feel any better
I ordered a Bowflex in Sept for a Christmas present and I still haven’t got it
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 23, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
but my estimated delivery date was the 21st
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 23, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
join the club
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
just talked to a friend
who bought his son a set of airsoft guns for christmas. He was checking the delivery status and it said something like, “Returned, Item Damaged.” He called the company that he ordered them from, sat on hold for almost 2 hours, finally got to speak to a human and she told him that the overnight truck was leaving in 2 minutes and there was no time to go into the wearhouse to package the items and get them on the truck. She also said if he had called about an hour earlier it wouldn’t have been a problem.
So, his son is going to get to open a package to find pictures of airsoft guns.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
That blows.
But I’ve had friends that have done the same thing.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
for real?
i’ll have to look into that
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
I just keep getting Prime Trial's than cancel
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 23, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
how long do you have to wait between trials?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
that makes sense.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
How to do it
Add How to train your dragon to your cart
To join, click “Add to Cart with FREE Two-Day Shipping” and confirm your Amazon Prime Free Trial sign-up during checkout.
Than just take the movie out of the cart
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 23, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
...and they all moved away
from him on the Group W bench.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 23, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
hey guys my secretary got me a cardinals shirt for christmas. how awesome is that?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
by IHeartBoog on Dec 23, 2010 12:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
give that secratary a raise.
DO IT!!!!!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
unfortunately, i lack the authority to do that.
but, i got a raise yesterday, so maybe she did too.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Lucky you.
Our Christmas present was to be told we won’t be getting a raise this year … or for TWO years.
Merry Christmas to Department of Energy people.
StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
by StanTheManFan on Dec 23, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
hey, at least you still have a job.
you probably get to enjoy other things, too, like nights and weekends.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
If anyone has experience in restaurant management
the Cape Girardeau Cracker Barrel is short 2 managers right now.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Did they run to sign up early with the new casino?
Or were they busted for selling crack after hours?
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
Is your secretary the male equivalent of Joan from MadMen?
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
yeah I could see IHB as the one saying
“thanks for the coffee sweetheart, say why don’t you have your tailor take those slacks in a bit”
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
If they have to be tight, then he doesn't have much.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Says the brit without one piece of cotton clothing in his closet
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
IHB "say sugar, you know momma just dropped her pen over there, be a doll and grab that for me"
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
I think that she is like the harassy version of Penelope
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
An amusing idea for a stocking stuffer for the Cardinals:
Micah Owings.
StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
it would help fill out our bench
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 23, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Looking like it'll be a white Christmas in St Louis this year.
Sorry snow-haters.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 23, 2010 12:49 PM EST reply actions
its gonna be 55 in south carolina saturday
and it was 70 yesterday. i keep forgetting its supposed to be winter.
It could be worse

Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 23, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
what this tells me about the Cardinals
is that defense is not important unless it’s behind the plate
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 23, 2010 1:26 PM EST reply actions
then they prefer the catcher not to be able to hit
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 23, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
happy holidays everyone!
enjoy your day off
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 23, 2010 1:28 PM EST reply actions
Saturday?
I normally have Saturdays off, but instead I get hosed out of two paid days off this year, and next year.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
well, I get friday off luckily
it’s my birthday, so I’d probably take it off anyway
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 23, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Do you get double presents?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
yes
I give presents to everyone, and then they give me 2
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 23, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Everything's comin' up Chitown!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I'm most excited to see what my sister does when she opens mad men season 3
and she told everyone not to buy her anything since she’s been unemployed for a while. she has the first 2 seasons, hasn’t seen 3 yet.
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 23, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
That's the best part of doing it all.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Well, Happy early B'day, Chitown.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
my boss and I were both saying happy birthday because he is born on christmas
he brought in a bunch of treats too, and we got out early. good day.
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 23, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
ditto.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Tell Rob to watch out for Pujols comin' towards him...
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
ya....I'll pass it on.
His parents are going to his place in AZ for Christmas this year, so I probably won’t see him till the season starts. My parents and his are planning on going in May to see them in Denver, which is two weeks before I was planning on going down for the Cards series. Not sure if I can pull off both weekends. My chances have increased significantly for my Ryan Fucking Ludwick signed ball, however.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yes, happy Chitown Eve.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
this rec is for your birthday and christmas!
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
thanks!
Merry Christmas to yall, I have to pack up the computer for travel
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 23, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
you were born on christmas?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
what are phrases rui's mom screams every night for a 1000 Alex
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Mine too.
StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
by StanTheManFan on Dec 23, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
if you're bored,
sporcle has name all the 200+ hit seasons from 1989 to 2010.
I got 54/100. there were some surprises in there.
also, without looking, how many seasons has pujols had 200+ hits?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
One, in 2003.
Amazing he hasn’t had any more.
by mattisnotfrench on Dec 23, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
walks too much
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 23, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
i know. i was really surprised by that.
its all those walks, probably.
there was also someone who NEVER had a 200 hit season from 1989 to present that i was SHOCKED about.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Juan Pierre, Ichiro?
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
no they both did.
although i completely forgot pierre played for the cubs.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
81/100
Some of those are REALLY obscure. Ellis Burks? Really? I also forgot how awesome Holliday was in 2007.
by mattisnotfrench on Dec 23, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
I was kidding Ichiro has never not had 200 hits
Pierre’s 200 hit seasons are really the basis of his continual employment
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
I was shocked about: Chipper Jones.
It seems like that guy does nothing but hit.
by mattisnotfrench on Dec 23, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
77/100
missed on pujols, pedroia, and aurilia.
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
The last two I couldn't remember how to spell first I thought I had entered
I tried typing Renteria four times still can’t believe Edgar never had 200
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
same here.
also surprised barry bonds and manny ramirez didnt
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Bagwell, Helton and APu did it at least once
even with the walks those two surprise me a bit
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
Looking at Barry Bonds' career stats just blew my mind again
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Oh come on a 600 OBP isn't that great
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
Psh, do you even know what OBP IS?!
/vep
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Order of the British Prick?
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
heh
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Bagwell never did it
I couldn’t believe Bret Boone (among others)…forgot about the steriod issue surrounding him.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 23, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
Ahh you are right I typed in Biggio and Bagwell back to back
you know the Rocks damn near got Biggio to replace EY back in 95 he ended up re-upping for less money with Houston
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
77/100,
thanks to the random typing of common last names that got me Lance Johnson and Shannon Stewart. Also, Julio Franco? Jose F. Vidro?? These are players who I only remember as mediocre so it’s odd to think of them as leading the league in something other than AB’s that should have gone to someone more productive.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
Vidro was a hot player right before Montreal moved to DC
Then his skills vanished.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
.02 GPA points away from graduating magna cum laude =(
CURSE YOU A- GRADING SYSTEM
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
YOUR MOTHER MAGNA CUM LAUDE LAST NIGHT!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Dec 23, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
You're just embarassing yourself at this point, RiverRat
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Dec 23, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm completely ok with that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
...i laughed.
i blame the flask.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
still at it I see
well done, sir
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
Gee, there went you're shot at a good job.
At least you graduated. In ten years it won’t mean a thing.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
*your
Fuck me the interwebs has absolutely ruined my word usage.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
at least it hasn't sunk to the Ur level yet
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
There are days...
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
I think VEB needs to adopt the fierce anti-textspeak policy that Lookout Landing does so well.
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
I wonder how that works?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
And capitalization is a must, so tom s. is outta here
Oh, and no using hyperbole in debates
Oh, and you have to use perfect grammar
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I think that leaves only Alberich as a VEB poster.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
Sorry, I write a foreign language
I’m not fluent in VEBish.
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
Hey!
I try, most of the time at least.
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 23, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
I thought we enforced the perfect grammar quite well already
hence the reams of subthreads about it.
Gee, that sounds like a helluva lot of fun.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
You have to have perfect grammar?
I don’t think “Oh, and” is a way to start a sentence correctly. You need periods in your whole post.
Get the fuck out.
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 23, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Nah
That would make gamethreads pretty dull.
As opposed to: GET UP BABY GET UP GET UP.
you’d have to write: What a superb swing of the bat by Albert, my i’m sure glad we resigned him to that extension, my we would have had egg on our faces indeed otherwise.
I really want to see the LOLs and the like to die
i’d be okay with those surviving, if we could totally stop the use of “u” instead of you. oh, and people that use “ur” just irrationally piss me off.
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
don't we have seattle for interleague?
it would be fun to adopt txtspk just for that series
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
I don't think so
That was last year
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I'm enough of an asshole to discard my principles for a good, evil laugh
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
GET UP BABY GET UP GET UP
no textspeak – check
(imperative vocative imperative) impeccable grammar – check
plenty of capitalization – check
A formalist might regret the absence of commas, but I punctuate rhetorically and see no problem. I give this posting full marks.
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
by alberich on Dec 23, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
heh heh heh
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Not necessary
We got it the first time.
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
anything that avoids VEB becoming anything like that place I am in favor
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
recced for how laude it was
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
Christmas Eve Eve, possibly the second greatest day of the year?
Shopping done. feelings of regret from tuesday night fading and its almost CHRISTMAS!!!
I don't know why, but I'm not feeling particularly Christmas-y this year
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I'm not, but that's because all the lawn crews are out today mowing the neighborhood
Texas: Where yard mowing is a 12 month schedule.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
I'll trade mowing for shoveling any day.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I know what you mean
Just listen to Fairlytale of New York over and over again; makes me feel Christmassy.
I'm going out to a pub (an actual public house!) with some old friends tonight, and then watching Love Actually
So hopefully that’ll do the trick
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
You know Pet Shop Boys kept FTONY out of #1 with Always On My Mind
you people have so much to answer for
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
The kind of people responsible for continuing existence of Lily Allen
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
I hate that evil, talentless, tuneless harpy.
never mention her in my presence again. Lest i will send a dozen warships to your face.
I thought you were proud to be british?
You can’t be bragging up Spotted Dick one minute, only to deny the dark side of Britania.
Lily Allen is as english as cheesy beans on toast, and you can’t escape your portion of the blame
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
I'm not that proud to be british, at least when i'm sober.
I still don’t see why i have to shoulder the blame for Lilly Allen, how about some lesser evil? Like the invasion of Iraq?
Iraq might be in the top two hundred invasions by the BE
but only barely
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
If I remember correctly
the Mesopotamian campaign was a humiliating failure, though not as costly as Gallipoli.
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
yeah but that didn't cost real lives those were mostly colonials
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
oh, well played, sir
[applauds tepidly]
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
When did the British invade Iraq?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 23, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
that Shah was pissed
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
The best part was when the Ottoman commander
told Stamboul “We don’t need no stinkin German generals”
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
The Irish and Scots did a lot of dying to try and make sandy places English
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
I think it was mostly Indians who died in Mesopotamia
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
the Sepoy!
that was what surprised me about Africa is how many Indians live there as a legacy of the Sepoy Army. My friend Tariq who now lives in Calgary is descended from that group. His parents are from Kenya
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
If you ever watch The Ghost and The Darkness,
most all of the railroad workers were Indian. That was a true story, not sure how much they deviated for the movie though.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 24, 2010 3:34 AM EST up reply actions
They built our railways too.
And our canals. And dug our coal.
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
Drill ye terriers, drill.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
Far Away Boys and Navigator are two of my faves
on the subject, although Ronnie Drew singing Macalpines Fusiliers is pretty damn good too
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
Aha...I guess I still considered it to be
the Ottoman Empire (not “Iraq”) back then….though I think there was a rather minor war between England and Iraq in the 40’s, post-Faisal.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 23, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
It was a piece of the Ottoman Empire
just as, say, Hungary was a piece of the Austrian Empire.
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
Rich Harden signed for 1.5 mil
damn you Lohse
He's a pre-med major.
Needs the cadaver.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
by TBender on Dec 23, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
He says he would be willing to pitch out of the bullpen
He could step into the rotation when Lohse get hurt/is ineffective
by Redbird99_98 on Dec 23, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know if there are any hip hop fans here
But a local Seattle rapper named Macklemore just wrote a song about Dave Niehaus… it’s actually really, really good
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
MLBPA loves this...
A-Gon to Red Sox: I’m not gonna want a deal like Pujols is gonna get.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
understandable given that 7 years, $100 million is way below market value for him
oh wait…
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 23, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
things i despise
1. patients not showing up for their appointments.
2. patients not showing up for their appointments when it has been announced that I can leave if I don’t have any patients.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
where do you work?
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
and
So you are running out of patients?
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
I work for a VA
Not even close to running out of patients. I’m running out of patience with non-compliant patients. I have a backlog of over 100 trying to get in but I have people who don’t show up or cancel half the time.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
My wife is an optometrist
she can’t believe how many people either show up late or not at all
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
it's extremely annoying
especially in private practice where it costs you money. Here, I get paid the same no matter what. So basically they are wasting taxpayers money when they don’t show up.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Fuck no shows
And fuck your 4 o’clock showing up at 415 as you are walking out the door
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 23, 2010 6:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Does anyone know how I tell my ISP to only connect through Firefox?
Itunes, and most downloads seem to use IE
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
Whenever this game tries to teach me the lesson:
Don’t mine stuff in the middle of a lake of lava, because it will not end well. I don’t listen.
Unsurprisingly, it didn’t end well this time either.
the family is gone visiting old friends, i didn't want to go instead i'm staying in & baking cookies
so i got the house to myself & i get some peace & quiet & a break from all the hate & yelling. i’ve found cooking/baking relaxes me. i think i made the right choice.
i know you shouldn’t be alone during the holidays, but it beats being embarrassed that i’ve epically failed at life by seeing old friends & hearing about how successful & happy they are. it’s probably for the best.
now if only i had something to drink
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
don't forget to put the bacon in.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Maybe it's time to look for a job in the baking/cooking line?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 23, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
this
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
i got my bro in law asking around, he's in the food biz
i didn’t put bacon in them this time, i didn’t have any or i would have tried a batch with some. but i still think they turned out awesomely. i make some amazing triple chocolate chunk cookies
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
come on over, there's plenty, i always make a lot more than i can ever eat
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Dude,
You’re my hero. I woulda had them gone before they got cold.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
i haven't eaten today or i'd eat more than the two i already shoveled down
as good as they are i’m wondering if i splurged & used some higher end ingredients if they’d taste better? i just used generic wal-mart & giant eagle (local grocery store) flour, sugar, butter, coco, chips & chunks
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
The only thing that I've ever noticed that makes a diff is the type of coco and chocolate chips.
The cheaper versions of those tend to taste that way.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
i used toll house chips & coco, they were the same prices as the store brands
actually they didn’t have any generic coco. i was going to go check out whole foods & see what kind of coco they had there. i think that’s the only place around that would have higher end products
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Tollhouse has never done bad as far as I'm concerned.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
ditto, i used their baking coco instead of Hershey's since i used their chips
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
how do you get them to be so tall
everytime I try to make cookies they get super flat. They still taste good, but don’t look as pretty
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i think it's the baking coco because when i make regular chocolate chip they areflat as pancakes
i hate flat cookies, i know what you mean & i like them to look good too. i like them fluffy, chewy & big. so i under cook these by two minutes to make sure they aren’t too done on the inside. it’s actually a combo recipe that’s on the back of the nestle chip bag & a brownie recipe i found online last year. all purpose flour might have something to do with it to, but i’m not 100% sure about that.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I like relatively drier cookies
so that they soak up lots of milk when i dunk them
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Brownie Cookies
1 Pillsbury Fudge Brownie Mix
1/3 cup oil
2 eggs
1 pkg. white chocolate chips*
Heat oven to 350* Combine brownie mix, oil, and eggs until well blended. Fold in white chocolate chips. Drop dough by rounded spoonfuls 2 inches apart onto ungreased cookie sheets. Bake for 9 – 13 minutes or until set, Enjoy!
*Really you can mix in any item you want. Simple, quick, delicious and they’ll rise well.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
is that the recipe for brownies just w/o the water?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i'm embarrassed to admit i've never had gooey butter cake
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
so fucking good
i’m going downstairs now to eat a home-made one
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 24, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
I'd drink for you gdm
but i decided to lay off the booze for a few days after the debacle that was tuesday night; i still can’t really remember what happened but i don’t think i’m very popular with alot of people.
that sucks dude, i'd probably stay away from the demon rum if i was you too
i feel a lot better after baking. it’s really amazing how relaxing that is
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I like cooking in general
Me and my brother are going to prepare christmas dinner tomorrow, should be fun.
And yeah, i’ve forgiven people for worse than what i remember doing. And too be honest i think (well hope) it was just general obnoxious drunkard-ness. I’ve just had this sense of nagging regret for the last couple of days, which makes me think it was something much worse.
i love to cook, ever since i was a kid i would always stay in the kitchen with my grandma's
rather than going out into the fields or woods with my grandpa’s. i was actually going to be a chef right out of high school but my bro in law, who graduated one year before i did even though were the same age, decided to marry my sister instead of going to MIT. so he went to the chef’s school here. i was really mad because i really wanted to do that. but i didn’t because i didn’t want people to think i was coping him or following him, we did not get along at all back then, loooong story. so instead of doing the mechanic thing like i should have i went to work out at the Honda Civic plant. the rest as they is history.
most of us have been there were we had way to much to drink and were huge aholes to everyone. the best thing is to just apologize to everyone you might have offended, blame it on the booze & a girl guy, and ask for forgiveness. unless you killed their puppy or something they should forgive you.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
cooking doesn't relax me
I enjoy it because of the opposite reason. When I cook, I love to have a busy kitchen with a half a dozen things going at once. It’s kind of a workout, both physically and mentally. Keeping everything straight in my head is a challenge that I enjoy.
I like baking, but I find it kind of boring because you have to follow recipes a lot closer or things can get effed up pretty bad. Cooking is more creative i think, but I’m sure if I was a better baker I would be able to get creative with it.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i don't use exact measurements at all
i just wing dude, like tonight i went off script & used 3 of everything, 3 cups of flour, sticks of butter, cups of sugar & brown sugar, tsp of vanilla, eggs & they are probably the best cookies i’ve ever made. i didn’t need 3 cups of baking coco because you really don’t need that much, i used about 1 1/2 cups of that.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
also i remember you saying you liked a busy kitchen
i think that’s why i’d probably enjoy owning a bakery/pie/cookie/brownie/doughnut shop rather than running a restaurant kitchen. i like to cook like a dinner for a few friends at most. cooking for a lot of people & cooking a lot of different dishes all day isn’t really something i’m interested in doing.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Reds Lost Rhodes...
http://twitter.com/MLBFanHouse/status/18072721690730496
That’s kind of a big deal; Chapman hasn’t proven himself yet. I wish we got him instead of …umm, that udder guy we got…
:=8/
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
Seems like this increases...
the likelihood that Chapman comes out of the pen all year. Big win for Cards and Brewers.
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
Just saw Jaime Garcia on MLB Network
He was taller than I expected. Or maybe the guys on MLBN are just shorter than I thought. Anyway, it was cool.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
of course it was. it was JAIME GARCIA.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
shy, but dreamy
HR is still a tool, i wish he would have thrown a ball at his head
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Twas the Night Before a Cardinal Christmas
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
by albrtfn on Dec 23, 2010 8:42 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
trust me you'll want to hear this
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
listen to this man! any locals know when Jack did that? i was thinking 93-94?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
That was pretty cool.
It couldn’t have been any later than then. I wouldn’t think anyway.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
i've heard it here before, but i can't remember when who posted it or when they say it was recorded
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I would guess sometime between 90 and 95.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
yes since those were the years that torre managed the cards
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i know i haven't been around much lately
but is it just me, or does it not feel like christmas is in 2 days? maybe it’s because i’m getting older (19 in two weeks), but this x-mas doesn’t have the usual ‘feel’ to it.
and, when it comes to cards non-news, i’m not surprised. it’s been rather boring on all fronts as of late.
Fire John Mozeliak & Tony LaRussa! (Good luck in Seattle, Boog!)
f'n zoomzoom
but seriously; i know what you mean. It’s cause your getting older though man, just wait until your 19th, birthdays SUCK after your 18, well, the getting wasted is fun, but the actual ‘birthday-ness- isn’t the same.
Oh wait, you guys have the age limit at 21 for buying booze? Bad example in that case.
SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
In the end Kevin Spacey is the guy that Kevin Spacey was talking about!
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
So Bob wakes up from a dream
and it turns out he’s back with Suzanne Pleshette, who was his wife from his previous sitcom, and the whole entire show was actually a dream, which explains why it was so wacky! I mean, two brothers, both named Darryl??? That’s just wacky.
But anyway, he agreed not to eat so much Japanese food right before bed anymore.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Dec 23, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
it was a snowglobe
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 23, 2010 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
THEY ALL DIE!
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
my autistic nephew was holding a snow globe last week
and i made a joke about st elsewhere. yep, i’m a horrible person
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
by gdm426 on Dec 23, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I remember that.
I laughed my ass off over that.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
i did too, i also remember a lot of other people being pissed
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I loved it, and The Bob Newhart Show is probably my favorite.sitcom. ever.
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
by mattyfrommo on Dec 24, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Newhart is probably the most underrated comic actor
all of his shows have been good. I really enjoyed the above ending. ‘Course, folks who didn’t remember/like/watch the earlier show wouldn’t get the joke but….
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 25, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
duuude, no spoilers!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
the ship sinks
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 23, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
amidoinitrite?

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
and you are????
no, it does not seem like christmas, it probably won’t till saturday or sunday
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I'm not as bothered by the Laird/Anderson projection comparison
But the Skip one does bother me. How does Descalso project to be better than Skip next year? I guess his minor league hitting is a little better overall, but not by much.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
ok VEB... don't fail me now
I seem to have caught the Christmas spirits
so which channel is showing Die Hard?
………….tell me one of em’s showing Die Hard.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I don't see it until 1/1 on Spike.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
my mistake.....
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
hah
…wait. not till New Year’s???
I thought this was AMERICA.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 23, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
According to Directtv, not till New Years.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i can't find it on Dish at all
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
you know what this means
the larcenists win
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 23, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
they can take my life, but they can never take my Die Hard!!!!!!!!!
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
modern technology?
put this link – http://www.megavideo.com/?v=A07CI5I4 – into this
unless that ruins the fun?
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 24, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
Pryor gets suspended for first five games of 2011 season
But he gets to play in Sugar Bowl. The best part is that Mark May is saying the SEC gets unfavorable treatment. That if it was someone in the SEC and not in the Big Ten, that that person gets suspended for the bowl game. His evidence was AJ Green which is bullshit since it’s apples to oranges in terms of when they got invicted.
I’m still laughing. The SEC is unfairly targeted. I can’t get over it that the SEC gets unfavorable treatment. Get the fuck out with that shit man.
And sorry for going OT with handegg, but I can’t believe what I just heard.
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
I noticed the Sugar Bowl folks were pleased
I imagine they would have not appreciated five OSU starters/stars being out. I guess the guilty parties were all undergraduates since the suspension is for next year. I wonder if, say, Pryor, was a senior if they would have let him play?
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 25, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
that is a great question
I guess we’ll never know. My guess is that they would be forced to suspend them due to the fact that they have to do SOMETHING. And if they were seniors, that would be the last chance.
Of course the Sugar Bowl folks were pleased. Pryor being in the game makes it more marketable, therefore they get more money from viewership. When it’s all said and done, the bowl system is all about money. Pryor playing gives them more money so they are happy.
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 26, 2010 2:01 AM EST up reply actions
A Christmas Message to the VEB Community:
Next couple of days are a bit hectic to me so I might as well do it on Christmas Eve Eve. I just want to wish you all a fantastic Christmas day. Let it be a time of sharing and bonding with your families and a day in which we can all come out of our closets to forget about the mishaps and misfortunes in order to spend some quality time with those which we love so dearly. I said it in Thanksgiving but may I say it again, the VEB community has a very special place in my life and I sincerely hope the best to each and every one of you in these special days. So, even if it sounds cliche and overused, a hug all the way from Guatemala and a Very Merry Christmas to you all.
Sincerely,
the cheesy Paulspike
I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff
by Paulspike on Dec 24, 2010 1:41 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Merry Christmas to you too!
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 24, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions

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