Good News and Bad News: Watching Zack Greinke All Year
by DanUpBaby on Dec 20, 2010 5:55 AM EST
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PrintI'll say this for the Brewers—I might not have traded Brett Lawrie to get Shaun Marcum, but Doug Melvin and company clearly know why their team failed in 2010, and they've made major and obvious efforts to upgrade in the right places. And unlike last year, where the solution involved throwing a lot of money at Randy Wolf, they've done an excellent job of making those upgrades. Marcum had good peripherals in 2007 and 2008 and excellent peripherals in 2009, although his home run rate seemed, at its worst, to prefigure Jose Bautista's. Zack Greinke is fascinating and also one year removed from one of the better pitching seasons of the last decade.
They're replacing, optimistically, David Bush and Manny Parra, who combined to throw about 300 innings, not to mention brief and awful stints by Doug Davis and our own Jeff Suppan. The Brewers' roster, with its impressive, soon-to-be-unsignable hitters, anonymous rotation, and agonizingly bad bullpen, had a lot of replacement-level-hanging fruit, and rather than addressing the structural problems by trading the hitters they've decided to pluck all the fruit and hope for the best.
Given the Reds and Cardinals' parochial concerns this offseason—the Reds had to lock up Jay Bruce (good) and Miguel Cairo (also a baseball player), while the Cardinals have concerned themselves with a gnostic, astrological shuffling of subpar middle infields—it's a move worth making. The Brewers don't spring to the front of the division, which is almost difficult to avoid after adding six wins or so to your rotation, but they're in the discussion, now, at least as much as the Reds and Cardinals.
And I might be alone in saying this, but all the pseudo-Ed-Hardy shirts in the world couldn't keep Zack Greinke from evening out Ryan Braun's negative dFAWARP contributions. Zack Greinke is like if Napoleon Dynamite were the best pitcher in baseball, and my Vote for Pedro t-shirt cool again.
Back to the gnostic middle infield shuffling: If you didn't see it, Dan Szymborski, creator of the ZiPS projection system and author of the greatest transaction analyses on the internet and prime responder to Viva El Birdos's oddly specific Szymborski Signal, dropped by with some middle infield projections you're not going to want to look at. (These a day or two before the Cardinals' ZiPS projections are delivered.)
Player RC/27 BA OBP SLG Tyler Greene 4.17 .238 .301 .373 Ryan Theriot 3.93 .269 .327 .324 Pete Kozma 3.60 .236 .294 .336 Donovan Solano 3.56 .259 .295 .327
Including the Kozma projection—worryingly similar to Theriot's for a player with a career AA OPS of .656—must be some kind of cruel joke on his part, because I am not ready for any world in which Pete Kozma and Donovan Solano are plausible Spring Training contenders for anything except "prospect I've most overrated for age relative to league."
I've confirmed I'll be able to visit Brendan Ryan at that huge farm they took him to, where he gets to run around all day and do impressions with all his friends, so I'm speaking strictly from a baseball sense here: The crucial mistake of the Cardinals' offseason is that they identified the middle infield as a major flaw and then completely failed to do anything substantive about it.
The Brewers have eviscerated their farm system, but after identifying their fatal flaw they've distinguished themselves by executing a clear-headed plan to solve it.
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They could have fixed it
Given how little the Braves gave up for Uggla, trying to foist Theriot on the fans is just insulting.
uggla i get
they decided not to spend the prospects and money/years and instead get berkman for 1 year, which makes sense in the Pujols-looming-free-agency world. and moving ryan for whatever reason is fine, there was obviously some issues where addition by subtraction comes into play. however, i agree that TRADING for theriot, rather than waiting until the non-tender deadline and seeing whats out there was dumb. really, it all goes back to the schumaker extension last year. im sure tony pushed that, which hamstrung Mo when he attempted to revamp the MI this year. Mo got steamrolled twice in this whole thing.
t.o. is ok, but with him and schu, we're just not any better
but i’m sure tlr is happier
i admire the brewers moves. like the cardinals, they can’t hold onto all the brauns and fielders they have, so they are casting the die while they can. they’ll get some nice picks when fielder et al walk. the cards feel that they should be the yankees and contend every year with inadequate payroll. they will have to draft/develop better than their competitors if they are going to succeed with the 10-15th best payroll. jeff, my boy, it is on you.
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
also
make the most of the resources we have. we need to maintain as much flexibility as we can since we can’t just throw money to fix mistakes every year. not to harp, but we are paying 2.7 mil to a player who otherwise would have been non-tendered. those are the kinds of things that are killing the mariners and pirates. i pray Mo does not hesitate to DFA skippy if he’s struggling early.
Your prayers will not be answered.
Skip will not be DFA’d while TLR is the manager of the St. Louis Cardinals. The only players that the Cardinals have cut bait on during TLR’s tenure have been so-called bad apples who don’t do the little things right or have a bad attitude. I’m thinking of Tino Martinez and Adam Kennedy. We’ve also traded Scott Rolen, Jim Edmonds, and JD Drew in the offseason because of disagreements with TLR about playing time or playing intensity. Lack of production does not get a TLR favorite DFA’d and, let’s face it, Mo isn’t going to act independently of and against TLR.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
We traded JD Drew because we got an awesome package back
for a player in his walk year. Would you really take that deal back in retrospect? Hell, if it was Wainwright straight up for Drew, we probably would have won that trade, in retrospect (I understand this is not how risk assessment works).
Jim Edmonds had mixed performance after leaving the Cardinals, and we got Freese, who looks at least somewhat promising out of him, while we had Rasmus already waiting in the wings to take his place.
Rolen we basically traded for the same player in the only questionable one of those moves you cited.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Was that an awesome package at the time?
It really pre-dates my rabid fanhood so I have no frame of reference for how that trade was received. It also pre-dates the really hardcore sabr explosion for evaluating trades. Not to mention that Adam Wainwright was never projected as more than a #3/4 starter.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
It was close to exactly what the Cardinals said they wanted
when they were shopping Drew. They got immediate rotation (at the time, Marquis looked like he had potential, and he did have arguably the best year of the starting five on that 100 win 2004 team) and bullpen help, and they got the Braves’ top pitching prospect (though you’re right that no one considered WW a future potential Cy winner).
The media buzz at the time centered around “You NEVER trade with the Braves FOR pitching” because apparently Leo Mazzone had magical scouting powers that would prevent him from surrendering awesome pitchers.
I think it horribly mischaracterizes that trade to say that they shipped Drew because of personality. they shipped him because they weren’t going to give him a multiyear $80M contract.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
That trade looked like a crap sandwich at the time...
I really had no way of knowing anything about Wainwright, but Marquis was wildly overvalued by DD and TLR if I remember correctly. JM was the key to the whole trade.
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
That's not what the FO said
They explicitly said that Wainwright was the key to the trade, and that the Braves were pushing for a lesser prospect.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Also, everyone was terrified of Boras
and the deal he would want for Drew, which was not unfounded, considering the contracts he got out of the Dodgers and the BoSox. Also, he was undervalued around the league. It’s crazy revisionist history to say that he was dumped for a song and that we lucked out.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
And this isn't to say that one can't be often very frustrated with TLR
note one of my very first <a href=“FP posts” for this site.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
link
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2006/9/27/11344/3834
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
I'm not saying it was a song...
the going rate for one year of a 6 war outfielder about to hit free agency is a top prospect and a couple other good prospects. Was AW a top prospect? I think he was top-50ish. And I could be wrong about the FO’s thinking… I knew they were excited about the pitch to contract potential of Marquis.
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
They got a very good prospect
a ML starter who threw a 95 mph sinkerball, in his cost controlled years, and two years removed from being above average, and pretty good Loogy. Could they have gotten more? Maybe. But Drew was quite overvalued then, and the Boras thing didn’t exactly raise his trade value.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Waino was the 29th pick of the 2000 draft
the Braves were very high on him to start but somewhat frustrated with his development by the time of the trade and reluctantly included Wainwright in the package. From Adam’s B-R page
Prospect Ratings by Baseball America:
Pre-2001: Rated #97 Prospect
Pre-2002: Rated #42 Prospect
Pre-2003: Rated #18 Prospect
Pre-2004: Rated #49 Prospect
thank you
I thought he was projected as better than a #3 or #4. He was a very good prospect from the Braves’ system.
Gammons called him a #2 to #3 guy, IIRC.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
if "pitch to contract" was intentional awesome work
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
This
I, too, recall that the Cards felt the trade a “win” due, mostly, to being able to include Waino (as opposed to some other, lesser pitching prospect). However, there was some of the personality issues in the trade. True, they didn’t want to meet Drew’s expected price in FA, but at least part of that seemed to be due to TLR not being a big fan of J.D.’s attitude. (In other words, if Drew had been grittier, they may have tried to re-sign him instead of making a trade.)
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 20, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
There were also personality issues with Eli Marrerro(sp)
who decided he no longer wanted to be a catcher but just an outfielder.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose and sometime it rains.
Can you imagine the unholy shitstorm that would erupt
if we had a player like JD Drew now and TLR pulled his BS on him? It would make Ryan and Reyes look like nothing. Drew was a 5+ war player in 100 games in 2001. His ouchies were annoying, but it didn’t warrant the treatment he got from La Russa.
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
And then we got back another teams' ML ready prospect?
It would be a mixed reaction, at worst.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
At the end of 2004, people were calling that trade a wash
and WW wasn’t in the majors yet, even.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
The trade would've gone down okay...
though we would’ve been pissed that Marquis was part of the return. It’s the four year TLR vs. JD saga that would’ve driven everyone nuts. The benchings and the back-and-forths, etc.
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
It did drive people nuts.
It’s just that people then were on TLR’s side.
On the hatred scale, Boras + Drew > TLR.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
I'm sorry, but that is incorrect
Marquis was a starting pitcher coming off of his Age 24 year who profiled as a 4/5 innings eating starter.
WW was a top 50 prospect in all of baseball who was one year removed from having been a top-20 prospect. He was a 21-yo who struck out 7.7 guys per nine while only walking 2.2 per nine in a pretty fast Southern League track.
King had just finished a relief season where LHB hit 200/260/263 against him, and righties weren’t much better of: 223/331/331.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 20, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
I'm just trying...
to remember what the FO trumpeted in the papers. I think Marquis was crap at the time, but all I remember reading about was the potential of Marquis.
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
they were very high on Wainwright
I think there was a quote of Jocketty basically saying that he would have come close to settling just for wainwright in that trade. I remember being befuddled that he valued this guy I had barely heard of so highly.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
and personality
lots of commentary about his “injury” history, which was mounting and his attitude, which many considered lackadaisical at the time
kind of reminds mr of clobby
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Reminds me a lot of Fire Burning
Whom seems to get treated the same way by TLR. But Mo doesn’t trade that well and I don’t want to see Colby gone so I hope Mo doesn’t try and fail to recreate this
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Dec 20, 2010 4:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Colby should outlast Tony
since he isn’t free agent eligible until after the 2014 season. Colby might even outlast Mo if this team fails to perform up to expectations again.
No.
We traded JD Drew because he and TLR didn’t necessarily see eye-to-eye and the indications from Boras were that he would test the FA market. (Very similar to Holliday, but TLR didn’t like Drew while he loves Holliday.) We happened to get a great package in return. I liked the trade at the time it was made and Wainwright was the second prospect after Ankiel that I followed through the minors. I don’t want folks to think that I’m saying the trade was bad. What I’m saying is that, for established veterans to be moved (let alone DFA’d), they must exhibit a bad attitude or have disagreement with TLR. It seems that Skip won’t ever have either of those problems, so he isn’t getting DFA’d.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
plus he's dreamy
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
I don't see Tino, or Kennedy as 'bad apples'
as much as I would like to, since I came to detest both. To me they were more in the Rolen category, in that they were under-performing. And while I don’t remember the details of the end game re Martinez, I feel Tony gave Kennedy (and Rolen) plenty of chances to re-bound. What’s common, for the three, in my mind, is that any ‘attitude’ problem stemmed from the semi-modern “I’m being disrespected” combined with them pressing and trying too hard.
I think ‘bad apple’ should be reserved for people like Floppy.
by the Tewk on Dec 20, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rolen and Kennedy's objections to being benched got them shipped out.
Kennedy was unhappy in a part-time role, so the Cards cut him loose. Rolen and TLR had the famous disagreement when TLR benched Rolen during the ’06 NLCS, seemingly buried the hatchet, and then had the hatchet rise from the grave in zombie form, resulting in the Glaus trade.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
We traded Jim Edmonds because of
Ankeil and Rasmus were going to take his place. It was a good trade too.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
It was a good trade.
I was okay with it. If I remember correctly, the Cards told Edmonds that he would have to accept a part-time role and Edmonds then requested a trade. The Cardinals accomodated him. It was not as dramatic as the Rolen situation, but it was nonetheless a situation where the club saw the player as something less than a full-time starter, the player did not see things that way, so the club traded him. At this point in time, no one has approached Skip about becoming a part-time player that I am aware of.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
IMO
Trading a guy to a place where he can start is a bit different than being run out of town. Miles, Eckstein, Duncan, and Suppan are some recent examples cords being cut with crappy players. Though two of those manage to come back later.
Grrrr… Just say no Mo! It’s like a drug addiction.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Miles, Eckstein, and Suppan
were all allowed to leave once their contracts expired. I was saying that Skip wasn’t going to be DFA’d or traded mid-contract.
I don’t know if we’ll ever know what happened with the Duncan situation.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Miles was non tendered twice
The Cards non tendered him after 2007 when he was in his Arb 2 year. They then signed him for 2008 for $1.4mm plus PA bonuses. Then non tendered him again after 2008 and the Cubs swooped in with a two year $4.9mm deal.
Right. After his '08 contract expired, the Cards let him go.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Edmonds
As a fan I hated to see Jimmy Ballgame leave but I thought it was rather classy of both sides in how it was handled. The team let Edmonds know he wasn’t going to be playing full time. He asked for a a trade the right way behind closed doors instead of through the media. They accommodated him with a trade that helped the Cardinals and showed respect to Jimmy by putting him in a position where he could receive playing time.
At least on face value it’s one of the few “classy/respectful” trades I can think of in recent baseball history.
by WizardofOz1982 on Dec 20, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yes
my most favorite pet peeve here is kmac staying in the bullpen. if, as dd predicts, he could be a successful starter it is a ludicrous financial decision to keep him in the pen
if he was as good as klohse, you are talking about being able to redirect 8-10M this year. just baffling.
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Redirect?
We owe Lohse guaranteed money this season and next. I’m not sure what you mean being able to redirect $8-$10 million this year.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
If Kmac
can put up numbers similar to Lohse, then the 8-10 mil we are paying Lohse can go to Pujols next year. We don’t have to resign a Lohse type pitcher since we already have one. Thats how I read it anyway.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
lohse is under contract for next year
unless you are assuming we do not exercise Carp’s option, we already have 5 starters signed for ’12.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
This is my point.
For 2011 and 2012, the Cards must pay Lohse a bit over $12MM. In 2013, that money could be redirected, but then K-Mac would be approaching the end of club control. (If someone wants to look up the K-Mac salary and arbitration situation, it would be great.)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
yes
he should have been a real chance at starting 2 years ago
he can always go back to the pen
this is a situation where it looks like dd is not getting the say, and it kind of puzzles me because of the economics
ie, we would not have had to jump on klohse as hard as they did (or penny etc.) just doesn’t seem they are maximizing their resources by keeping him from taking a run at starting
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
After '07, K-Mac was not going to transition to starting.
And the Cards jumped on Lohse because his price was incredibly low. It was one of Mo’s best moves as GM. The problem, then, was signing Lohse to a 4-year, $40+MM deal after ‘08 rather than opting for more one-year, Penny-type fill-ins., or, shifting K-Mac to the rotation. I still don’t think he would be especially effective as a starter. He strikes out too few and walks to many as a reliever for me to project him as a decent starter.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i meant klohse 2
the signing of 2008
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
KMac is in his first Arb year
so he is under team control through 2013, though will cost a bit more money each season, especially with some of the recent salaries being thrown at set up relievers.
pretty sure you can't assume we'll take the option
seeing how his ‘10 season played out and his age, right now it’s a smart decision business wise to let him go
but this all depends on the ’11 season IMO
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 20, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
I think more of solving "black holes" in the lineup
vs. solving a middle infield problem. We had 3 of ‘em last year, as long as Wynn wasn’t in the lineup: 3rd, short, and 2nd. Obviously, that’s too many. How many black holes can you afford in a N.L. lineup (and I"m not counting pitcher)? I don’t know for sure.
We eliminated one of ’em with the trade.
We did?
We are still going to field a lineup with schumaker, Theriot and who knows who will be at 3rd? The bigger problem is they replaced a great defensive shortstop with a bad one, not a good recipe for success in the Dave Duncan pitch to contact model.
I’m not mad they traded Ryan, I understood the addition by subtraction thing, but they jumped the gun on Theriot for no reason at all when they could have waited a bit to see what they could get after the non tender deadline.
by lopey986 on Dec 20, 2010 9:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
very true
much like they got their panties in a bunch with floppy
all they had to do was send him home
not cut him and lose the pick which they had paid for by paying him 99.9% of the year
more tlr i’m sure
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Theriot persay given his history is not really a black hole
and any combination of Freese, Craig, and Greene will also not likely be a black hole…
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 20, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
If we can get some form of Jimmy Wynn into the lineup I vote yes
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
He's a little rusty and doesn't move as well as he once did
judging by his FSHouston TV appearances from last season.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
Berkman RF Wynn CF what could go wrong?
The Big Puma and The Toy Cannon
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
uh
not really
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Because we have Kyle Lohse.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Many royals fans are furious about this trade.
When I provide them with a simple analysis of the trade. They are more comfortable with it.
I don’t know if I’d feel if I were a Brewer’s fan. They look improved in 2011, but it doesn’t seem like Prince will stay after this season. Even if he does, will they be able to afford him and Greinke, and still field anyone else, in 2012. If not, they could be bad for a nice, long while.
I think there would be much VEB hand wringing if we made a similar trade. Although, mostly because our new insane rotation would mean that Brendan Ryan should not have been traded.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
the most recent lunacy always holds sway
until the next eclipse (tonight no less)
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Which, if this overcast holds, I'll have no chance of seeing.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yep, it's not looking good.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 20, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Royals fans I have talked too are upset most because
their sons just lost their favorite player. Granted I can’t feel too much sympathy—they did raise them as royals fans—but nevertheless, I hope Cardinals fans aren’t having to have this same type of conversation with their children next year.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Isn't it some kind of Royal fan induction ceremony to lose your favorite player?
That’s pretty much par for the course for them over the last 2 decades.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
Seems like a bad trade...
it puts them into contention for 2011, but they’re still (arguably) 3rd best in the NL Central. Then when they get to the playoffs there are other better teams waiting for them.
2012 doesn’t look particularly rosy. They’ll lose Weeks and Fielder – the only thing worse than losing these two is signing them to huge deals and not losing them. They’ve got Gamel, but he won’t replace Fielder’s production. I don’t know what they have in mind for second. There won’t be a lot of money freed up – probably about $22M if you guess $12M for Fielder, $6M for Weeks, and $4M for Latroy Hawkins. Raises to Braun, Gallardo, Hart, Gomez, and Macghee will eat up half that.
2013 they lose Marcum, Greinke, and Wolf. $30M comes off the books, but another $10M is eaten up by the above listed players. They’ll have a huge draft haul from the June 2011 draft, but those guys won’t be ready until ’14 or ’15 at the earliest.
I think we’ll see a massive fire sale if either the Reds or Cardinals are more than 6 games up on them next July.
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
Oh, oh!
I don’t know what they have in mind for second
I know! They’ll sign Skippy to a 3yr/$14M contract after he declares for FA.
No?…… well then shucks!
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 20, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
The Brewers looked at their situation.
They have two dominant offensive talents in Braun and Fielder and some nice complimentary pieces in Weeks and Hart (if he continues to hit). Their pitching was terrible. Their window is closing, so they doubled down on 2011. I feel like they went through a similar self-critique when they acquired Sabathia. This is one last shot at the playoffs while they still have Prince Fielder at a reasonable salary, not unlike the Cardinals going for it with Berkman during Pujols’s last low-cost season.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Yeah
Around 2003/4/5 you looked at Milwaukee as a team that had a window on the horizon with Fielder, Weeks, et al. Now, b/c of shitty pitching staffs, that window is closing and had only one playoff appearance in it. They have a very real possibility of turning back into an also-ran and needed to do something. This guts their upper farm system, so either it works or it goes down in flames and a lot of people lose their jobs. With Prince’s right foot out the door I’m not sure they had any other options.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Dec 20, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
I think they had 2 playoff appearance
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
or did they just have that one wild card season
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
They just had the one appearance in 2008
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 20, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
or did they just have that one wild card season
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
They just had the one appearance in 2008
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 20, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
or did they just have that one wild card season
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
They just had the one appearance in 2008
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 20, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
They Should Trade Prince....
….for a corner OF and a possible closer and moove Braun to first…
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
yes
it’s a great trade from the Brewers perspective. They can’t re-sign Fielder and can’t trade him for more than what he could provide for the team this year, so they’re going for it in 2011. It’s exactly the right move. Then they can take the 2 draft picks from Fielder and either extend Greinke, trade him, or keep him for another year and take 2 more for him. Great move by Melvin. They’re right in there w/ the Cards and Reds, and maybe the Cubs if things break right for them, in the Central.
I could see 4 85-90 win teams in the division this season.
Look at the number of awesome players that have come and gone from KC
and I can understand why they’re pissed off. Though their only real hope is to do the Florida ‘trade superstars to build a farm system that peaks all at the same time, add a few FAs, and then blow it up’ strategy, and then maybe hope to get a fan base again.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
yeah the hatred of the trade
is basically a knee-jerk reaction to trading away their superstar. They quickly mention Damon, Dye, Beltran, etc…
One frustrating thing for KC fans is that the Royals, though a “small market” team, could probably have a bigger payroll. And their default reaction to any trade is “here we go again, more unnecessary years of cheap-minded suckitude”
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
they got a lot more back for grienke than they did for Dye, and Damon
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
that is what I have to tell them.
this is not one of “those trades”
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
and they tossed Ellis into the Damon trade when he was 22
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
Brewers
were going to suck in ‘12 anyway. Might as well go all in. And if it doesn’t work out, they can start trading those big boopers for some of the young guys anyway.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
I am a Cardinal fan in Milwaukee
so I get to see the Brewers alot. Adding Greinke is indeed a major upgrade for their rotation but the question is how much that upgrade is countered by how weak they now are up the middle. Watching Escobar last year I thought he was really mishandled be Ken Macha. Macha jerked him around the line up a lot and I don’t know if he ever really got a chance to get going with the bat. I thought Escobar was quite good with the glove but I am not sure if the stats back this observation up. He was certainly flashy. I was really impressed with Lorenzo Cain in his short time up and thought the Brewers were going to be really strong up the middle when you add weeks’ bat to the mix. Carlos Gomez is a serious downgrade as far as I’m concerned. To be honest I think the guy is terrible. His one asset is his speed but I feel his body is always going faster than his brain. Neither he nor Dickerson should be starting. Just my 2 cents.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose and sometime it rains.
/Sobs in to blanket
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
what's wrong there
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
those zips projections
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
ah
a little reply fail too
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
no reply fail on my part
it was my reaction to the main post
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
oh
so no zip projections. I am still not that worried about the brewers, although they will be a much bigger pain in the ass for the rest of the division. I’m thinking there will be a monster regression coming for the Reds. they’re fans were just too obnoxious, and the GOB will want to teach them a lesson.
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Using the same "formula" from last year
since we’ll be playing against more competitive teams within our division, should we expect to see the Cardinals’ A game on a more consistent basis?
what does zips say about that?
I thought I told you to trim those sideburns!
by martimeryard on Dec 20, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
???
Really? Why?
There have been much worse times to be a St. Louis sports fan.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 20, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
please explain
Rams are not good but in a good position to make the playoffs, Cardinals will compete to win the division and have the best player in baseball, and Blues, well, they know how to skate and that should count for something. Seriously though, Blues are going to be tough if they can get healthy.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Rams are also improving
They have a young QB. The WR Corp that looked bad will look much better next year with the return of Avery. Defensive picks are starting to pay off and are not yet in their primer. Plus, they might make the playoffs while still having a good draft position.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
if they make the playoffs
they don’t get the high draft position. Playoff teams draft starting at 21st pick.
I didn’t want to make them sound too good because I’m a 49ers fan, not a Rams fan.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
oh well
still okay with making it. Does it go by how well you do in the playoffs? Or will they be the 21st pick. 21 out of 32 isn’t bad given the hit or miss in the NFL draft.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
I believe it goes by performance in the playoffs
when Arizona was runner up they had the next to last pick IIRC.
So, if they make the playoffs and lose in round 1, they’d get the 21st pick based on record and playoff position.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
ok. Seems fair
Win win if they make it. I’d rather them win a few games than have a high pick.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
too bad they're going to end up tied
with the niners and we’re going to get in based on within division record ;)
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
just have to win out and hope TB takes care of business
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
HAHA
i’m scared shitless of Alex Smith
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 20, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
sunday will tell
you should beat us since our best offensive player is out for the year, our 2 best o-linemen are out for the year, and our 2 starting middle linebackers are playing one handed.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
and we are at home
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 20, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
yeah that worked out real well for you this weekend
sorry, had to get that jab in.
thing that ticks me off about this season is, we had the falcons beat. Clements picked off Ryan and tried to run it back. If he had just taken a knee, we could have run the clock out. Instead, Roddy White ran him down, stripped him, they drove down and kicked a last second FG to win it.
Could have went to OT with the saints too, but gave up a last second FG to lose that one. Oh, and we would have beaten Carolina if the Alex Smith you think sucks hadn’t gotten hurt late in the game and replaced with David Carr. Seriously, I hope Alex signs in Indianapolis this off season to be Manning’s backup. He is built for that kind of a system, not the awful system that Singletary has tried to force down everyones throat for the last 2 seasons.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Chiefs > 49ers
plus the rams fucked up some major oppurtunities early that effectively let the chiefs run away with it
I’m just going by the stats – they say he is slightly worse than Bradford and he’s in his fifth year? Plus his career CP is 57% (this year he has improved it to 60% at least)… he is an average QB i’ll give you that
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 20, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
I just think he's been undermined
by poor coaching and ridiculously frequent OC changes. I’m not saying he’s great, but he’s definitely not the reason we aren’t playing as well as we were expected to.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
i know exactly what you are going through though
I used to be a staunch Bulger defender who everyone blamed for our failures – well it’s clear he sucked, but it’s also clear that the rest of the team did as well
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 20, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
The two Super Bowl teams get the last two picks
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Dec 20, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
thats what I was saying
the teams that are eliminated in the playoffs pick relevant to their record and the round that they are eliminated in. So, the four teams eliminated in the wild card round pick 21-24, 2nd round 25-28, etc.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Yeah, explain
I’m ticked about the Boog trade but honestly it’s not going to make the Cardinals the Pirates or anything. Even if they lose Pujols they still have some damn good pieces to build around.
The Rams are showing signs of being a good team in the near future and may back into the playoffs. Bradford is probably going to be a star.
Sure, the Brewers just got better for 2011 but what’s wrong with a little competition? They still have a bad bullpen and are not a very strong team defensively. The Cubs stink. The Reds seemingly caught lightning in a bottle and while they’ll still be a contender I wouldn’t be shocked if they slipped a little bit last year.
It could be a lot worse… and if you’ve been an STL fan as long as I have, they HAVE been worse!
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Dec 20, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
I live near DC
…and have not one iota of sympathy for you. Even the Caps are sucking right now.
youneverknow
by floodOfLove on Dec 20, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
You are not remembering the 90's very well, are you?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 20, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, the early 90s.
The Cardinals put up their first last-place finish since WW I, plus a string of seasons in the middle of the pack.
The Blues were in the middle of their streak of playoff-appearances-with-nothing-to-show-for-it (sans one President’s Cup)
The Gridbirds had changed into the Desert Rats and the Rams were still being ignored in LA-LA Land.
What fun.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 20, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but Tom Cochrane's "Life is a Highway" made up for all of that.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
buck up there, buddy
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
well this is a wonderful time to be a St. Louis fan...
Cardinals’ immediate future looks bright (to me), the Rams long-term future looks REALLY bright, the Blues – they are young, I don’t really care for hockey, and it’s not crazy to expect yearly trips to NCAA tourney for Mizzou anymore along with 10 win seasons in football
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 20, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
I just saw the re-draft on si.com...
how teams would do the 2010 draft if it were held today – the Rams OT the got in the second round would be a top 5 pick… that is just huge.
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
they had a great draft
from the last two drafts, they’ve gotten a QB of the future, a Pro Bowl caliber MLB, their starting LT and RTs, their best CB (Fletcher IMO > Bartell) among a few other minor parts
That fits pretty much all of the cornerstone positions in the NFL except for RB which is covered for now – no question, they have gotten best 2nd round picks in each of the last two years and strangely i wanted someone else each time (Maulaga and to trade down)
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 20, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
WHY CAN'T ZACK GREINKE WEAR HIS HAT RIGHT??
Is something wrong with the shape of his head? It’s like the Royals gave everybody else 5950’s, and he gets the hats made at San Quentin by dudes making $.19/hr.
"The Mollusk" makes me want to rail LSD crystals off my friends' sternum. Rage."
by ICEYhawtSTUNNAZ on Dec 20, 2010 11:07 AM EST reply actions
go vote for year motto
Current leader: Ridiculously Resilient Redbird Rampage
We cannot allow this! I voted for “2011 Cardinals: Character Welcome. Characters Aren’t”
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
are we shipping out Wainwright?
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Hmmm... What could we get for Wainwright?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
He's been running this contest since last week.
I submitted a couple:
‘2011 Cardinals: Please don’t hit it to 2B, SS, or RF.’
‘2011 Cardinals: At least we take our jobs seriously.’
I’d welcome any “Liking” you might bestow upon my humble submissions.
done
but you’ve got a lot of ground to make up.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
mine was something like just win it all so tlr will retire
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Anyone else interested in. . .
the flyball tendencies of the new! IMPROVED! Brewers pitching staff?
Grienke and Marcum are both flyball pitchers, and Grienke, in particular, is coming from a park that is a bit tougher for HR hitters. Neither are likely to turn out as bad as the Randy Wolf signing did, certainly, but both of those guys lose more effectiveness from goign to Milwaukee than would say, Jake Westbrook. Of course, if Yuniesky Betancourt truly is going to be your everyday SS, maybe Mr. Melvin is onto something.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 20, 2010 12:01 PM EST reply actions
Greinke and Marcum
add at least 7 wins to that team over what they ran out there last year, fly ball tendencies or not.
Greinke’s as good as Wainwright, and maybe better. He’s in the conversation to be one of the top 5 pitchers in baseball.
On the pitching side, sure. . .
and that may even be conservative by a win (although looking at the rest of Marcum’s career, 2010 looks a bit fluky to my eye). . . or more if Grienke can turn in another year like 2009.
But they are costing themselves on the position player side of the ledger, perhaps to the tune of 2-3 wins.
Escobar (2.0) and Cain (1.2) were worth 3.2 fWAR last season, and given their youth and profiles, they are a better bet to turn in more than that this season. No one would be shocked if both were 3 fWAR players, for instance. Yuniesky Betancourt, OTOH, turned in a 0.6 as a full-time player, and he ain’t gettng any better.
Granted, the Brewers have seen the Carlos Gomez show before, and he has his uses (and is more important on a team with flyball pitchers, to be sure), but this looks to me like a 3-5 WAR upgrade, with a pretty high MOE given the upside of Greinke for the Brewers and Cain/Escobar for the Royals.
The more I look at this, the more I like the trade for the Royals from a pure baseball perspective. That’s not to say that they couldn’t have gotten more on July 31 from a contender, but you also risk Grienke getting hit by a line drive or blowing out an elbow and getting nothing.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 20, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
worse than nothing paying 26 million for him to rehab and about the time he is healthy
he hits FA
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
When you have Carlos Gomez in center, and Prince and Betancourt on the infield
Being a flyball team isn’t a bad thing.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
gnostic? No epicurean.
>> the Cardinals have concerned themselves with a gnostic, astrological shuffling of subpar middle infields<<
But the gnostics strive to escape the cruelty of this world by knowing oneself. If the Cardinals had embarked on a mystical inner journey then I am sure they would have come to peace and harmony with Brendan Ryan. No, I would label the Cardinal infield shuffle as epicurean (only because there is not a LaRussaian religion to my knowledge). Epicureans believe the greatest good comes from seeking modest pleasures in order to attain a state of tranquility. B. Ryan upset clubhouse tranquility. Theriot and Fat Elvis are thought to provide stability and, perhaps, modest pleasure. I suspect the pleasure Mr. LaRussa shall derive from Theriot and Fat Elvis (and probably Miles as well) shall led to great pain and despair in September for Cardinal nation.
by jjray on Dec 20, 2010 12:26 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I was born just a tad too late
to be a 60’s hippie and greatly regret it.
that is...
and always will be your biggest failing in life.
If only the flagellum which powered the early gestational days of your life had a greater sense of urgency.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
That's a very good put down
I’m may file it away and recycle it one day.
not intended to be a put down at all...
just a lose morbid joke… apologies if it was taken as anything more or less.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
yup, we were born too late
I would to have loved partying in the late 60s and early 70s
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
My old man was 21 in 1969,
and he pissed it all away. No epic concerts, and a huge stick in the mud.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
mine was 23...
and listening to the viet cong’s radio operators from saigon, and missed out on most of the fun to his dismay.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
Mine never had his number pulled,
so he missed out on that excitement.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Mine never had his number pulled either...
My grandpa just happened to be very good childhood friends with a guy that had an army base named after him… who sat in a very high seat and was privy to what pools of numbers were getting pulled. He warned him that if he didn’t want to be a marine he better make a decision of which branch he preferred and make a date at the local enlistment office.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
Air Force?
That woulda been my choice in that situation.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 20, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
nah...
grandpa was an army man, so he went to the army knowing that with his college education and a voluntary enlistment at the height of the war that he would be able to pretty much select his M.O.S. and wound up selecting military intel. spent a few months in Saigon before ending up in Okinawa.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
mine was 12
i have no idea what he was doing then
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
Mine had been in the Navy during Korea.
He was 38 and busy worrying about 6 kids to feed. Didn’t really give a damn about hippies.lol
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 20, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
my sister was kind of a hippie
but not really, she just dressed like one and played an acoustic guitar. my dad was far too controlling and she didn’t have a car, so it would have been hard to be a hippie. I’m not sure what she did at Illinois State though heh.
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Whippersnappers!
my dad turned 53 in 1969 and was trying to find a new career after government regulations put his family-owned business out of business. I was certainly aware of ‘Nam, had a brother-in-law over there, and was very glad it was over long before I was old enough to worry about it. (In fact, I’m in that small group, I can’t remember how many years it lasted, that never had to register w/ selective service).
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 20, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Me too.
Vietnam ended when I was 16, and Ford terminated the requirement in ’75. When Carter re-established it in 1980, all males between the ages of 18-26 born on or after 1/1/1960 had to register; those of us born between 3/29/57 and 12/31/59 were exempt.
My dad was 48 in ’69, I was 11. He had been a POW during WWII, after his bomber was shot down over southern Germany, and they bailed out over Czechoslovakia. He hardly ever talked about it, and he died in ’71, before my interest in our family history had been piqued.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 20, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
my dad said he was real lucky because he had a real high draft number
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
So did my two oldest brothers.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 20, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
the area in southern ohio where my mom grew up wasn't so lucky
they had a lot of boys die in Vietnam. per capita i think it was the largest numbers of boys lost in the USA.
my dad lost a couple friends who weren’t so lucky. my grandpa, his father in law always gave him a hard time for never serving because he was drafted in WWII. my dad would have gone if he was drafted, but he really felt lucky his number was so high
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Who wasn't drafted in WWII. Seriously, practically anybody that could walk
and make complete sentences was drafted then. Vietnam was whole different deal.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 21, 2010 3:04 AM EST up reply actions
(damn tab key) ... I didn't know the gap was that small
My dad never served. He was 25 in ‘41. His two younger brothers volunteered right off the bat and his parents (mostly his mom, I think) begged him not to join so all three wouldn’t be in the service. His draft number finally came up in ’45, but right before he was to report to the induction center, the war ended.
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 20, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
I've always thought that the gnostics were very interesting
William Blake was a gnostic. also it was a part of early Christianity that was co-opted by many other forces that are probably too political AND religious to go into here. another interesting thing is that it is the only thing that parallels eastern thought in the western religions and philosophies. also, the Matrix was loosely based on gnosticism
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
gnosticism isn't really just an ancient thing either
it still exists today just under different monikers
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
right
if you have ever read any of Philip K Dick’s philosophy, it is almost identical to gnosticism
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
to what i've heard scientology or christian science are basically gnosticism too
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
nah
not really
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
No
Gnosticism is pretty radical to modern ears—Jesus was an incarnation of the snake from the garden of eden, freeing people from the harsh punishment of the God of the Old Testament
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
yeah i know that part
i was referring to the knowledge = eternal life part
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
it's more like knowledge is hidden or obscured by the god that has usurped the original god
from what I understand. but I’m no expert, I just find it interesting
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
The gnostic god
is unknowable and ineffable, neither male nor female, not only lacking vengeance but completely detached from active participation in the lives of man … in a sense. In another sense, all things are god. See Gospel of Thomas, Saying 77.
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gosthom.html
sounds about right
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
It's a mystical tradition
You see that argument made in Hinduism and Buddhism a lot, too.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
yeah, that's the main part about religion
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
"probably too political AND religious to go into here"
It’s December. Now is the time in the baseball calendar for extraneous conversations. Have at it. Gnosticism is something of a hobby of mine.
Ancient gnosticsm
… not the newer incarnations using the label.
what book would be a good place to start?
it’s always intrigued me since I found out about it. I think mainly through reading about William Blake and Philip K Dick, and to a lesser extent the Matrix. the topic seems to pop up nearly everywhere though
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
The Gnostic Scriptures by Bentley Layton
would be my suggestion. It contains the source texts with a very concise explanation the gnostic foundation myth. It’s not an easy read though. Elaine Pagels’ “The Gnostic Gospels” might be a more accessible starting point. It’s commentary but focused more on the relation between gnosticism and Christianity.
I've heard the Gnostic Bible is a good one to read
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
well, I plan on reading more up on it at some point
if nothing else, you can say you know the opposite of agnostic
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
I believe Saint Augustine was a Gnostic at one point.
He was probably something like an Epicurian too, actually.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
how august of him
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 21, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
He also once practised Zoroastrian-derived manicheanism.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
gnostic in the sense of possessing a hidden knowledge
that is completely inscrutable to us outsiders.
The world was created by a demon...
…the demiurge, and material things are evil – the only good can come from within. That’s the gnostic schtick. Interesting in a metaphorical way, but obtuse and leads to such ‘heresies’ as Manicheanism and Zoroastrianism. Which is kewl if yer name happens to be Mani or Zoro…
;=8)
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
I Should Create MooCowMooism!!!
:=8D
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
by The MooCow on Dec 20, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So
do people keep referring to Suppan because he hasn’t signed with anyone yet, and they’re afraid he might get offered a minor league deal here, or are they just being Debbie Downers, or what? Because it’s my impression that he is a free agent, and is not on the 40-man roster.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 20, 2010 12:42 PM EST reply actions
People believe the inevitable
because TLR.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
Suppan was added after two starters went on DL
and he cost the team the pro rated league minimum. The only role open to Suppan would be long relief, similar to Hawksworth ‘10, Thompson ’09, Reyes ’08. I don’t see that happening especially if Suppan wants more than league minimum.
Miles on the other hand is still a valid concern.
it's called the reverse jinx
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
STL zips projections out:
Westbrook and Garcia will provide 220 innings combined. Skip will give us that 700 ops we need. Berk and Rasmus will slightly disappoint…
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
I would take their bet that Stav would significantly outhit Matt Carpenter at the MLB Level
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
Geez, why so few innings for Westbrook?
He pitched 200 last year with no injury problems I remember, and he’s another year removed from surgery. At least zips doesn’t think 36-year-old Carp is going to have a big decline.
by BTown Birds fan on Dec 20, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Mark Prior’s another year removed from surgery too.
Seriously, pitchers are big risks as it is and we’re talking about a guy who before 2010, last had a full healthy season in 2006.
by D.Szymborski on Dec 20, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
I get your point,
but I don’t think Prior is a good comparison for Westbrook. Westbrook underwent Tommy John Surgery, which I would wager has a better recovery rate than shoulder surgery. Chien-Ming Wang, Mark Prior, and Johan Santana have all undergone similar procedures. I will ignorantly stab in the dark that the ZiPS model takes into account past season IP totals to project 2011 and that, therefore, ZiPS will project more IP from Santana than from Westbrook, even though Santana is coming off a very tricky shoulder procedure that will likely require 25-30 weeks of rehabilitation and Westbrook is coming off a 2008 Tommy John procedure.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Yeah what bgh said...
plus the Cardinal medical staff looked him over, so what could possibly go wrong?
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
Let'
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 20, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
Let's hope Greg Hauck does a better job
than Barry Weinberg.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 20, 2010 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
Am I missing something here?
Why is Suppan projected? Or Reyes? Or MacFeedMe?
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
That's just how it's organized...
I suppose that way szym doesn’t have to follow all the FA movement.
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
Most recent team. Guys looking for jobs gotta go somewhere after all!
by D.Szymborski on Dec 20, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Got it. Thanks.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
The Szymborski symbol works again.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Oh, you'll fit right in here
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
what of bacon?
is it a satisfactory beckoning symbol?
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
preferably to a retirement home
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 20, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
It would
He had Tommy John surgery, that’s not the type that pops back up, especially when a year removed from it.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
He's a 33 year old pitcher
Expecting him to throw 200 innings again may be a pipe dream.
We should be happy if he gets to 180 and content w/ 162.
100 is too low of a projection
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
But I agree
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
are those prjections intended as medians or means?
Becasue if you average over a probability he won’t pitch at all, or get hurt in April… then that makes more sense.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Still doesn't make sense
If he suffers a serious injury, he misses half the season. I don’t think that missing the entire season is a serious risk (maybe 10%). I think a more reasonable weighted means projection is 150 innings or so.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
He's also a back-of-the-rotation starter,
so something closer to 160 is probably more realistic just in terms of the number of starts he will make.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
He's a 4th starter on a team lacking depth
Barring injury, he’ll pitch 220 innings.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Don't you mean,
“with an injury to Wainwright, Carpenter, or Garcia, he’ll pitch 220 innings”? Why would we expect Westbrook to pitch as many innings as Wainwright?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Because Westbrook, barring injury, will make 33-35 starts
Just like any other full time rotation member. He’s clearly better than any of our other 4th and 5th options, and good enough that we wouldn’t skip him in the rotation to start Jaime or Carp.
Wainwright pitched like 240 innings last year IIRC.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
162 divided by 5 equals 32.4.
I wouldn’t anticipate Westbrook starting more than his fair share of games if he isn’t injured. After all, if we’re skipping the no. 5 slot, it will likely be for Wainwright and Carpenter. Also, depending on the standings, TLR will absolutely skip Westbrook in favor of Wainwright or Carpenter. I think you’re also discounting TLR’s propensity to go to his bullpen early in favor of platoon match-ups. I can’t think of a St. Louis Cardinals team in recent memory—even the ’04 or ’05 teams—that has had anyone lower than the no. 3 starter amass more than 200 IP.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Alright fair enough on the math
I would still think that Westbrook would get 30+ starts if he was healthy the entire season.
In 2008, Looper and Wellemeyer each got 30+ starts as the 3rd/4th starters. Now that’s partially because Waino went down, but that would have happened anyway IMO.
In 2005, all five starters got over 30 starts and 190 innings pitched. In 2004, four starters got over 30 starts, and Carp got 28 (I assume he was injured).
I would have Westbrook at least 30 starts if healthy and pitching deep into games given his groundball tendencies and the fact that our pen sucks.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
Jamie had 28
and was shut down with 20 games (or 4 more starts) to go. 163.1 IP if you were interested.
Only once in TLR's tenure have we had even 3 SPs with
at least 200 innings; that was in ‘05, with Carpenter, Marquis and Mulder making it to that mystical number. Herzog’s teams did it twice, in ‘85 and ’86, with Danny Cox and John Tudor both times, Joaquin Andujar in ’85, and Bob Forsch in ’86. The last time a Cardinals team had 4 starters get to 200 innings was in ’79, under Ken Boyer’s managerial hand…Pete Vukovich, Forsch, Silvio Martinez and John Denny. Looking at these years scroll by as I was scanning for this stat, I was taken aback by a name that I not only had forgotten, but I’m not sure I ever even knew. Who can name, without looking, the #4 starter on the ’85 team that won (damn Denkinger!), err, lost the I-70 WS?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 20, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
had to look it up.
The opposite of a long career. And was left off the post season roster in 1985, ala Marquis.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Same. I remember the name, but that's about it.
51 career appearances isn’t going to leave much of an impression ~25 years on.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 20, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
I think I have his 86 Topps
the name does sound familiar.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
i don't want to look it up
and i don’t think anybody is going to guess
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
In fact,
I do, and I remember only b/c the picture is so terrible.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
(why are they doing pull ups in the dug out?)
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Mike Laga has a legacy that he needs to establish
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Although...
I sadly found out that Laga wasn’t a cardinal until 1986
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
lol goggle burn
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
its like he's laughing at himself.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I haven't looked, but it wasn't Kepshire, was it?
or did he flame out before 85?
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
Yeah
Kurt Kepshire.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 21, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
230.1 innings for Wagonmaker
233 in ‘09. He’s a horse….tick, tick, tick.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 20, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
And is this a good sign?
Greene’s ODDIBE COmp3 = Bo Hart.
He has some GRIT, but is it enough?
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
It has Colby backtracking, not continuing to develop. I don't know
Craig’s ZIPs looks pretty good though. I’d be quite pleased with that from him.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I was thinking the same thing.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I wonder ZiPS projected as IP totals for Carpenter, Garcia, and Westbrook last year.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
two thoughts:
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
sigh...fuck you sbn...
anyway,
1) i love those craig projections, especially the 500+ ABs
2) there must be some mistake caused by the fact that Westbrook only pitched 1/2 the year for the Cardinals in 2010 – causing the 103 IP projection. otherwise, that makes no sense.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
The projection formula probably gives more weight to the most recent seasons.
Westbrook’s MLB IP totals:
2010: 202
2009: 9 (AA)
2008: 34.2 (MLB), 9.2 (MiLB)
2007: 152 (MLB), 12.2 (MiLB)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Eh, the innings pitched projections are generally crap
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Rasmus, Holliday and Berkman are a bit too low
Nick Stavinoha is way to high.
I also find it interesting that all three of out youngish players who got decent playing time last year (Craig, Jay, Freese) are projected to be around league average overall. I bet that one of them has a breakout and one of them flops.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
is that what the fans are saying?
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
Mehh....
might as well bang a gong, howl at the moon, and fung shui yer living room while yer at it…
:=8P
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
you could also gang a bong.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
pete kozma has a 1% chance to hit 30+hr
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 20, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
bwahahaha
look at jason larues 30+ SB chances
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 20, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
Holliday has a 48% to have a .375 OBP
his career OBP is .388
wat
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 20, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I tend to think the aging and regression curves start to work less on superstars
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
does this factor heavily into MiLB numbers as well?
it has Stavinoha having a 15% of batting .300 yet Schumaker – who’s done it twice – is only at 16% (i’m not really disputing this but Schumaker has a MUCH better chance of getting to .300 than Stavinoha)
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 20, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, well STavinoha is most likely much worse than his minor league numbers suggest
This is just based on watching him hit – he obviously has no idea what he’s doing. So if you buy that, projections are going to overrate him.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
Craig may spend a lot of the year at 3B
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
they are going to get him innings there in spring training.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
am i the only one really rooting for a healthy freese? i miss him.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
boo-yah
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
There it is.
Gonna hear that a lot up until ST. That’s about all we got for news now.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 20, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
Damn!
I had the Dec 22 in the pool
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
It actually has "progressing" in the headline.
Uh-oh.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
His doctor in Colorado
is at the Steadman Clinic, where my wife had microfracture surgery on her knee done by Steadman.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 20, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
didn't Tiger have his knee fixed there too?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Yep
and I believe this is where Kobe was when all that stuff re: alleged rape went down.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 21, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
i thought that was denver?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Nope.
Vail, Eagle County.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 21, 2010 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
Rob Johnson got his hips done by him last year.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
so?
that’s pretty much how it works most of the time
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 20, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
ankiel with Natinals
per Heyman tweet – ankiel signs with #nationals. $1.5 mil, plus $1.25 mil in performance bonuses. Mid April return to Busch III for Rick.
You've got an excellent case of SBN
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
yeah, the work computer doesn't like coming to this site but I still direct it here
I’m always getting weird errors and other hindrances.
also, I didn’t know that Willingham got traded. looks like Rick is competing with some dude I’ve never heard of for the LF starter’s role in ’11
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
8/26/10 vs Nationals, Cards leading by 2
HR: R Bernadina (9, off R Franklin; 9th inn, 1 on, 1 out to Deep RF).
Now do you remember Roger?
bold prediction
Greinke and Carpenter will scream at each other before July.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I think Carp loses his sanity at some point this season
Probably after Theriot boots a ball.
[/ducks]
During an ESPN game, and they catch him on the dugout phone
ripping Boog for it.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
by TBender on Dec 20, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Theriot is not a bad defender
It isn’t like he is Aaron Miles out there.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Maybe hold off till August
Brewers – Cards have 12 games from August 1 – Sept 7th so things might not heat up in the two series before the dog days of Summer.
i knew there was a reason it was bold
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I can't get to personal e-mail or twitter at work
so this is for Dan Szymborski to find with whatever creepy internet crawling script he’s written:
“Dan,
Why do you hate the Cardinals? I think you must be a Cubs fan. I’m sure your computer is covered in cubs stickers (that are likely stained by a recent liquid spill) and you burn a Tony LaRussa effigy daily because you hate my team. Blah blah blah. hate you hate you Blah blah blah.
Die horribly,
azruavatar"
Did I do that right? Faux internet anger isn’t my strong suit.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
by azruavatar on Dec 20, 2010 1:42 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
You need to include more exclamation marks
more poor spelling, more uses of the word ‘scum’ and incinuations that you find his mother distasteful. But its a good start.
call him a fartdemon
nobody likes being called a fartdemon.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
One minor correction
“I’m sure your computer is covered in cubs stickers… that is if you owned a computer. Since you’re a blogger I assume you live with your mother and have to use the computer at your shitty community college computer lab. While your busy nerding it up in the lab, i bet the baseball players (who really know the game) are enjoying sticking it to that girl you don’t have the courage to talk to.” …etc
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
That's just fucking mean, fritz.
/He says as he’s laughing his ass off.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 20, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, since I visit Mom from Thanksgiving through New Years every year (and also I’m there a lot because I’m slowly relocating to the midwest for the gf’s job), a good portion of my work over the last month has in fact been done in my mom’s basement.
by D.Szymborski on Dec 20, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
see that is like Mysterui having a math based major
get it together and stop reinforcing stereotypes people
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
I do, however, have a gf and I look more like a drunken brawler than a Revenge of the Nerds guy.
by D.Szymborski on Dec 20, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
your "girlfriend" probably lives in Canada.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
But I'm good at sports!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
you can''t drive worth a shit though
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
That's not true at all
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
maybe i was thinking of your mom, you all look the same to me
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Everybody hates the Cardinals.
We’re the NL version of the Yankees, so pretty much everybody that isn’t a dyed-in-the-wool Cards fan hates us.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 20, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i've gotten at least 5 emails
from MLB in the last week titled “Home Run for the Holidays.”
i’ve gotten 2 since i unsubscribed. stop sending me the same email, MLB!
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
They contain pretty good ticket prices...
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Road trip?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
A dude that I work with somehow knocked our boss' laptop off his desk. Breaking it.
Boss is at lunch. I’m going to guess that he will not be the most pleased when he returns.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
can you go take a late lunch now?
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
the one responsible just took his lunch. poor dude.
it’s none of my business, I will remain silent.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
He's probably not eating.
He’s already job hunting.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 20, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think he will get fired or anything.
we’re a small office, and he’s been working here for about a year. But I’m not sure how he will be forced to compensate Big Boss Man though.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Have I spent too much time on SBN if when I hear
the phrase “It is easy to go green” in my mind I think “depends on what blog you are on”?
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
by TomCat009 on Dec 20, 2010 3:18 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Only when someone says something that you agree with
and you stand slightly to the right and below them and say; “this”.
by Aranathor on Dec 20, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
I like to yell "flagged!" and throw a flag at people I disagree with
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Dec 20, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
what do you use to weight the flag down
for a proper toss?
I’ve been given some pretty serious frowns for using rocks.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 20, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Lawn Darts FTW
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 20, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
you know the NFL refs used to use a half roll of nickels inside their flags to help them fly
until one of them destroyed Orlando “Zeus” Brown’s left eye with one
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
Wiki says it was filled with BBs
and Brown’s eventual settlement with the NFL was about $25 mil. He got arrested in ’09 for burglary and destruction of property.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 20, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
$25 mil just doesn't go very far these days
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
i could spend that in a week just on cars, easily
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
you should come to the chicago auto show in feb
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i've always wanted to, also go to detroits & LA
but i could never get anyone to go with me
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i've already got my ticket
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
there's a groupon for a 6 dollar ticket (reg $11)
but it only has about 50 mins left
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
you like cars? man i wish i could go
i used to go to the cbus one here every year. but its just basically all the dealers get together & bring a few cars. there’s hardly ever any concepts or anything cool.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
what red-blooded american male doesn't
I wouldn’t call it a hobby of mine. I know next to nothing about mechanics, but I do enjoy walking around, looking at prices, sitting in cars i will never own, and seeing all the cool exhibits they have. Last year they had a camp jeep ride through thing. It was amazing what those things are built to do.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i'm a terrible mechanic, only because i've never tried
or been shown how. i’ve always wanted to work on cars though & have my own tuner shop & dealership. i’m great with their stats & prices. kind of like baseball but actually i’m really good with them, whereas here i’m just kind of winging it
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
are you sure you aren't my college volleyball coach?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
yes, i'm not allowed near volleyball courts anymore
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Ahh yeah it was Elway that got hit with the Nickels during The Drive
rang his bell a bit
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
Oliver Forecasts are out
http://www.hardballtimes.com/forecasts/
Cardinals projected 1 game back of the Reds.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
Read about em here
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/its-time-for-tht-forecasts/
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
phillies are 4th place with 83-79
wat
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
Yeah, that's ridiculous
I’d like to see the full projections for them.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
It involves a sniper at the all star game.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Or, it involves Utley on the wrong side of 30,
Ibanez on the wrong side of 35, Rollins on the wrong side of 30, and Polanco on the wrong side of 30…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
But the aging should be offset by Cliff Lee
I can’t imagine that they are less then a 90 win team.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
He's on the wrong side of 30, too!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
They also have bullpen questions marks,
which they have attempted to cover up by signing Dennys Reyes and having stand in front of them while they are all in the bullpen.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Except that the signing of Reyes has fallen through.
Maybe he went on a diet, and now weighs in at a svelte 245? Rotoworld lists him at 250…no way that’s accurate, at least, not by the end of this past season.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 20, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I can't take this too seriously
With the Phillies in 4th, 4 games over .500. Unless they’re expecting 2/5 of their rotation to die in spring training…
Well as bgh said above, basically every one of the Phillies is past their prime
So their could very well be a lot of injuries and sudden drop offs in performance. I tend to think that projection is a bit low, but it’s more realistic than projection 95 wins.
The Giants projection is the only one that doesn’t make sense. But they are also a very young team with a lot of breakout potential.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
JFC San Francisco
is winning 98 games? Is that because of weak NL West competition or what?
I'm not sure
I emailed the guys in charge of the projections.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
These forecasts are crap
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
by guayzimi on Dec 20, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
suck it
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
so, basically
we should just gear ourselves for a hell of a battle in the nl central this year? i’m ready.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 20, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Fielding primer
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/printarticle/getting-defensive/
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
This primer is crap
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
by guayzimi on Dec 20, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
suck it
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Time to Celebrate!
I just finished my PhD applications. Now the waiting game begins.
I’m not too worried about actually getting into the schools… funding, on the other hand, is the question.
Do you all think that, as a future ethicist, I could write and publish an ethics paper justifying players not signing with the Yankees in exchange for Cliff Lee paying for my doctorate?
If one of your arguments is
Cliff Lee tottally got shafted in the 2010 CY voting, then you might be in with a shout.
Also don’t mention that his top B-R comp is Mark Mulder, that is something you mustn’t ever do, talk about how Cliff Lee could turn into Mulder at any moment, that, without warning BAM his shoulder could explode and his career could be over and the Phillies be forever indebted to a guy who has to learn to write with his right hand.
Sorry, went off on a small tangent there.
Not a lot of market there
, given that Mr. Lee seems to have justified himself perfectly adequately without your paper.
The Yankees, on the other hand, might have a use for a paper demonstrating that only signing with the Yankees satisfies the categorical imperative.
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
A phd in ethics is crap
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
by guayzimi on Dec 20, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
suck it
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No but seriously...
is there any way those projected standings are not the result of some error?
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
I emailed the guy
The system is generally good and comprehensive (probably about as good as ZIPS), and the playing time allocations are done by team bloggers (IE, better than a weighted average of past playing time).
So I suspect there is a glitch, or the playing time allocations are unfinished.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Also the playing time estimates are just guessed at this point
It could be that the Phllies blogger didn’t even fill out his projection yet, and he penciled in Halladay for 0 starts. When the season starts they should be much better because then playing time is more apparent.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm...
Guayzimi thinks the formal study of ethics is crap.
Rockstark5 despises fiction.
We’re getting a lot of hate on Western Civilization lately.
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
Too be fair
Guayzimi thinks everything is crap; therefore he has an inherent bias and this conclusion is flawed.
despises everything that isn't in a skirt or roller skates
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
and vep encourages sucking
youneverknow
by floodOfLove on Dec 21, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Well my specialization is in ethics
Technically my PhD will be in Philosophy and/or Religious Studies, depending on the program.
Well if the brown coating fits...
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Dec 20, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Start reading for your diss NOW, even if it's just sitting down with Rawls
and finally getting along to reading a Critique of Pure reason or whatever. Build up a nice bibliography while you do it. Keep an annotated bibliography from the beginning. It will save you a TON of time later.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
That's the big difference, I guess.
In my day you just bought the books and put your annotations in the margin.
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
So many of the sources in my diss were journal articles
that would have ended up taking a large percentage of my apartment. A giant BibTeX file was much easier.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
That's a matter of discipline I guess.
In mine, journal articles didn’t count for much, unless they’d been collected in a Book.
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
Also, teaching yourself TeX, LaTex, or CONText will save you a lot of time
if you’re going to end up doing a bunch of logic stuff. It may save you a lot of time with bibliographies and cross-referencing anyway.
</unsolicited advice from a bitter jackass who just finished his degree (in physics, though)>
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Good advice!
I’m a continentalist by trade, so that means I avoid most of the analytic/logic stuff. The anno bib stuff is great though – I started that years ago, and it has served me well. Even just the general continental philosophy stuff is 10 times as long as analytic stuff. There is just so much to read!
Technically, of course,
all Ph.D.’s are Doctorates of Philosophy.
But I just say that ’cause students are always saying “You got your degree in Philosophy?” when they see my diploma. I always patiently explain that “Ph.D.” is a catch-all and everyone majors in some particular subject.
BTW, good luck!
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 20, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
I can't have sex with your personality. And I can't stick my penis is your PhD.
And I can’t shove my fist in your childhood dreams. So why are you sharing all this information with me?
Sorry a little (modified) Jon Lajoie for ya.
Congratulations on finishing the apps. Best of luck with the entire process!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
E=MC^(VEB)
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Mysterui's mom has been keeping him busy.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Dec 20, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
The man has 10+ comments GDM where have you been?
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
In the existential, vocational, personal or sports-fandom sense of the question?
Seriously though, I’ve mostly just been a lurker on VEB for a couple of years. I enjoy the baseball (and ok, let’s be honest, mostly non-baseball) ramblings that go on here, I just rarely have valuable things to say.
Finishing all of these apps was such an epic process, I just felt like celebrating with every community I’m a part of – even as a lurker. ;)
Fair enough
But seriously; nothing valuble to say? Have you read most of the BS that get chatted here? Although ‘nothing’ is more valubable than most of CodyG’s pics…
this suspicion of lurkers is really unbecoming
I appreciate and welcome our lurker comrades. they drink beer too, you know.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
What in tarnation! I will not stand for this poppycock!
But seriously; i was trying to be welcoming and i’m not suspicious of them in the slightles, well no more than of anyone else on VEB (i know it was you who killed JFK, Y2S, you should stop hiding).
one has to counteract gdm's energy sometimes
it must be a strange and frightening place for lurkers
…..or they’re laughing at us
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Probably the latter.
Reckon they’ve got their own site where they sit around and laugh at us all day?
but telepathically
because they’re lurkers
it would be quite meta, though, for VEB to have a gossip site
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so wait, i have bad energy?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
it's like yin and yang
ain’t no binary dichotomy
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yin & yang, like those black & white necklesses that were popular in the 90's?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
....sure. if you're into that kind of metaphor
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
finishing my mfa applications last year made me feel the same way
except I wasn’t at all sure I’d get in anywhere, so I spent the next two months semi-catatonic. congratulations
You've done the hard part.
The rest is a piece of cake: visit the library once a week to read up current pubs so you can sneer at the faculty for not having read the current pubs; lounge down to comps, scribble forty or fifty pages demonstrating that the guys who wrote the questions are thirty years out of date because they haven’t read anything since graduate school; hack out a dissertation demonstrating that the current pubs are out of date and patronize your examining committee for being incapable of understanding your dissertation. Collect your degree.
Of course you’re then at risk of getting a job in which you spend the rest of your life taking the same shit off the next generation.
But it beats working for a living.
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
by alberich on Dec 20, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not depressing at all.
Once you’re tenured you can do anything you want for the rest of your life. And your solid grounding in ethics guarantees that it will be worth doing.
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
You are more optimistic about my future job chances than I am.
The job market in academia is so glutted, I’m pretty sure the odds are astronomical that I’ll ever have tenure. But hey, in that light, I’ll take your comment as a compliment.
Go for the community colleges.
The students are there to learn something (even if they don’t know what it is) and many of them are actually grownups.
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
Kind of goes against the tenure dream though, huh?
But a lot of what you said about the students is probably correct in some locations. In others, it’s more just the high school kids who didn’t get good enough scholarships or parents can’t put them in four year schools.
Around here, the community college jobs pay quite a bit less and have much heavier courseloads. Is that the norm in places, Cali for example although it may not be a good, national, example, that have extensive community college systems?
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 20, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
some CC's have a tenure system
but yes, they do expect you to teach a bit more, research less, and pay you less.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Well, the kids whose parents *can* put them in four-year schools
are at least as likely to be there only in order to graduate, and more likely to think they deserve to graduate just for being there.
And courseload’s no hu-hu; it’s course prep, which you’re mostly done with after four or five years.
As for pay level: who the hell takes a PhD in ethics expecting to make as much as your even Christian?
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
Re: entitlement
yea, you do see some of that, more of it the last few years, but it’s not too bad here, yet. Lots of our students are still first generation college and I think that keeps the entitlement feelings down some. Hopefully it stays that way.
I do enjoy being at a smaller school so that teaching is the primary job. We have the benefits of the tenure system, better pay and lower course load than the CC folks, but fairly minimal (compared to the research universities) research demands.
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 20, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I think a CC would be a good fit for me in the end.
Although, personally, I think I’ll be happiest if they address the problems in most adjunct positions. If most universities actually stopped treating adjuncts like crap, I think I could be happy as an adjunct – my primary goal is to teach anyway. Research is only a strong second.
not happening
we will move ever closer to the european system as budgets shrink and demand for access grows. no way out
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
got it, congrats & don't worry about not having anything valuable
mattyfrommo doesn’t & he’s still here
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
the ginger knows what he is talking about
there went your chance with my sister, though…ya sonofabitch
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
that's fine, i've moved on to your girls sisters
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
she's an only child
she had some imaginary friends, though. maybe she can set you up with one of them
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
creepy
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 20, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
but they're the only friends who love me!
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
jon heyman is losing respect points by the minute.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 20, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Is it possible to have negative respect points?
Or, is it possible for that asshat to have ever had respect points?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
i was going to say the same thing.
but felt classier than that.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 20, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
yes. me.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 20, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
I just looked at your twitter page
let me know when you get a job and can’t tweet every two minutes so i can follow you.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Dec 20, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you never responded to my response to you.
jerk.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 20, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
But I appreciated it!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
well, thanks.
you’re welcome to follow me at any time. but i’m sort of liable to excessively tweet at any time. especially on days like today, as i have nothing better to do. you’ll find some decent tweets through the bullcrap though. maybe.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 20, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
i like your avatar
she’s pretty.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I mean damn
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
she's ridiculously gorgeous
most people accuse me of selling out, however.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 20, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
oh, and she's my girlfriend.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 20, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
selling out?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
that's what i've been told.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 20, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
what does that even mean?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
don't know.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 20, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
why the hell did you ever respect him?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I am going to punch that man in the face
Bert Blyleven won 287 games in his 22-year career but made just two All-Star teams.
Also, that is the worst article ever
Don’t set out in your introduction to explain why you did something and then
a) berate the people who disagree with you
b) give an overly simple non-explanation. You utter Meff.
and also...
Mattingly over Bagwell?
449 to 222 in HRs
2150 to 1785 in games
297/408/540 to 307/358/471 career line
202 to 14 SBs
If Bagwell isn’t a HOFer they should just demolish the building and not have a HOF.
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
I would make this small revision:
“If Bagwell isn’t a first-ballot HOFer they should just demolish the building and not have a HOF.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
HFS
i never realized Bagwell was that good
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 20, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
He was basically Pujols...
for a shorter run with better defense and 30 steals a year.
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
yeah he was absolutely amazing.
that it’s even questionable that he is a Hall of Famer is ridiculous.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Jack Morris when ahead .245 .304 .377
Jack Morris when behind .248 .322 .392
Jack Morris when tied .249 .319 .373
Jack Morris when within 1 R .244 .313 .371
Jack Morris within 4 R .247 .314 .379
If he pitched to the score, he sure didn’t do it very often.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Dec 20, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You shoud email this to Heyman...
I’m sure his mind is wide open on the subject.
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
heck I'll tweet it to him if you won't joker
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
he's replied to me before when i insulted him, heh
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
So did BJ Rains
But… yeah
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
that's true too
haha, he’s such an adorable little writer, yes he is.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
you spelled annoying & sucktastic wrong
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
done
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
so what happened
(why do I care?)
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:05 AM EST up reply actions
no reply yet
it spawned a few leach tweets though. He’s on our side.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
He's such a moron
6. Don Mattingly. I switched to "yes’’ a few years ago because because he 1) was one of the best players in the game for a five-year period (and presumably would have continued along those lines had it not been for a bad back), 2) has career stats very similar to Hall of Famer Kirby Puckett, who was a no-brainer for me, and 3) is one of the very best defensive first basemen of alltime.
emphasis mine
How can Blyleven be such an obvious “no” but Puckett be a no-brainer?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
If Jeff Bagwell..
played for the Yankees the conventional wisdom would be that he was the greatest since Lou Gehrig and a no doubt, no discussion first ballot. How can people like Heyman not understand this?
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
apparently he doesn't have enough
“memorable moments” to be a HOFer
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
my reporter friend told me Bagwell will have a hard time getting in
because there is wide spectulation he along with Caminitti did a lot of PEDs. why Biggio doesn’t get lumped in with that i’ll never understand. he wasn’t exactly small for a keystoner
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
that smaller guys don't get as much scrutiny is silly.
PED’s don’t necessarily make you bigger.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
pitchers are huge & they probably did as many PED's at the Bonds & McGwire's of the world
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
yep.
now Brady Anderson was obviously clean.
And how come Luis Gonzalez seems to get a free pass. I know there was some questioning, but I never thought enough.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
But, you see, they didn't break any pitching records
except for Clemens, I guess, and he got plenty questioned.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Plus Gagne and Pedro
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
martinez? i've never heard anything about him
Gagne ya, i’ve heard lots of rumors.
also i meant to say “most pitchers aren’t huge” instead of are. f me
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
pedro -- who I LOVE -- is just another guy
who was one of the greatest performers in the history of the sport, is of a body type, and from an organization that I think you have to suspect him first, as fucked up as that sounds.
(Of course, I suspect guys like Cal Ripken and everyone else that played from 90-05 used ’em)
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Cal Ripken?
Isn’t injury prone-ness one of the side effects?
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
for some. Like the ones that aren't smart enough to cycle correctly.
But when the biggest SS in baseball history also sets records for being the most resilient during the steroid era.. It gets me wondering.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
brings a whole meaning to the term "Oriole Way"
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
the sawx do have a history, guess i just never put two & two together
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
so did his Expos team
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
really? so Larry Walker & Randy Johnson are suspect too?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Both were gone by the time Pedro made it there from LA
but, honestly, sure.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
i can see Alou, Floyd & Wil Cordero doing PED's
Rondell White & Marquis too. heck even Wetteland & Fessero. but i just don’t want to believe Larry & RJ were involved in that.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Segui got busted, no?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
i thought he had a prescription?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Really,
pretty much every player is suspect. There’s no evidence and what evidence there is is mostly speculation. We just know it was a lot of them.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
(and wow, Grudzy played w/ pedro on the Expos way back in '95.)
(I’m old.)
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
That was an awesome Expos team
I guess I shoudl say, the awesome Expos team.
Adieu, Youppi
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
if they had just gotten to the playoffs in 1994
the Nats would still be in Canada
so thank you bud?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I suspect this is why Heyman needs more time to evaluate Bagwell.
(That is, needs to wait and see if any PED dirt comes to light.)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i guess some MLB reporters know but there isn't a paper trail like with Bonds
or a rat like with Canseco to make it public knowledge. basically it’s all hearsay & no reporter wants to be the guy to bring it up without proof because both guys are so beloved down in Htown & MLB
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
the whole fucking league was corrupted
so just let them in because this era of cheaters for the most part cheated and it was fair competition because most of the league was cheating
not to mention the history of the MLB is not exactly… uh… clean
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 20, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
Let's not be ridiculous here, gdm
You don’t have friends
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
He's got at reast one friend
with benifits!
REAVE MY SON ARONE
by mysterui's mom on Dec 20, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 14 recs
now that's funny
and i have two friends! sure i never see them & we only talk via twitter, text & email. but we’re still friends! honest i swear
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i rec'd it as soon as i saw it and it already had 6
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i must have been right after you i was 7
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
thats the fastest i've ever seen a comment go green
You win Mysterui’s Mom!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
it was almost instantaneous
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Can you believe he needed that many words
to essentially say “I’m Dumb”?
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
by TomCat009 on Dec 20, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Jon Heyman is an asshat.
I particularly liked this bit:
I did promote Felix Hernandez for the Cy Young, but I still see winning as the ultimate goal in each game, and Blyleven didn’t win all that many more games than he lost.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
YOU SUCK
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I love how he has Tino Martinez and Carlos Baerga as close calls
especially Baerga:
He looked like he was on his way in the early ’90s when he strung together three seasons with at least 20 home runs, 200 hits, 100 RBIs and a .300 batting average. But he slipped after that and though he hung around for a long while he peaked very early.
So three “pretty good” seasons followed by a bunch of mediocrity gets you in the same boat as Blylevin in Heyman’s mind
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
Willie McGee HOF!!!!!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Dec 20, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
except when he playing baseball
Then he was beautiful to watch.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 20, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
except when he was swinging and missing
Man, he looked soooo bad on those swings.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
Can't argue that.
But I prefer to remember him flying around the OF and around the bases.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 20, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
And in his UFO.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Willie McGee cookies!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Dec 20, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Why is this the first time i'm seeing these?
do they still make them? please tell me they still make them?!
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
no, but the weird antique stores at the corner of vandeventer and shaw
have some 25 year old cookies if you want them.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
i can't believe i never heard of Willie's Cookies
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Hall of Shame*
* two guys who are a yes on their accomplishments but proven steroid users)
yes because everyone in the Hall of Fame is a great guy and has never cheated before… JHgdhsdjahdsjdgasdj
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 20, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Though I'd love a Ty Cobb wing of the hall of fame
where you put giant jackasses who were great at baseball
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
they'd have to rename it the barry bonds wing when he comes up for election
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Eh
Barry bonds was nowhere near the jackass that Ty Cobb was.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
or punch someone of another race for being "uppity"
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
well he couldn't exactly do that now, could he.
/i’m not racist
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Pedro Gomez can be plenty uppity.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
kevin neghandi?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
jeff kent is a huge asshole & he punched him more than once
he’s also white as the dickens
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Better than Theriot
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
that's debatable
and you’d probably lose the debate
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
even Cubs fans are going up to me and saying
why the hell would you go with Theriot over Brendan Ryan
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
theriot's offensive projection is actually better
and i imagine he’s a better defender
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
probably not
And he’s not a better hitter. Hall was an above average hitter in the AL East last year, and has several 4 WAR seasons under his belt.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
his slightly above average season
followed two absolutely terrible seasons. and he hasn’t seen significant time at SS since ‘06. i’d rather have theriot
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twatter
seems perfect for our FO logic
remember, we signed Berkman to play RF
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
it is a matter of some debate
which second baseman you’d rather have playing ss for your team
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
playing on the same team
as starlin castro and rafael furcal does not make one a SS
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twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 21, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
derp second baseman
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twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 21, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
these fucking Frenchman already discovered Globalization in the 1800s.I'm just trying to get some goddamn cannon units and these motherfuckers are already forming the WTO and shit
fuck the French
Fire John Mozeliak
Cheat, nuke them back to the stone age
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
*right click, drag down*
“goodbye cheese eating surrender monkeys”
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
by TomCat009 on Dec 20, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
mmmmm
monkeys
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
mmmmmm
liberty
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
i am honored i made your sig
it makes me wonder what you’ll do once you read my comment in purple haze’s prediction fanshot
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
thanks; i do love the use of the word fabulous, it isn't used enough.
but sadly that season ends in epic fail as well. while at a party in the Castro District one day after a game in SF, FE accidentally goes into the wrong club where our very own Aranathor & his new BFF’s mistake him for the nights "entertainment". he’ll spend the next 4 months in the hospital where he’ll eventually have to get a full rectal transplant. the flubs never recover & as usual go into a spiral & end up 20 games back of the Cards & miss the playoffs. after he’s healed FE will then retire & move to Vermont where he & Aranathor will open a lovely B&B & live happily ever after.
this however is terrifying, seriously; Vermont? Come on, you’d have though i’d be a bit classier than that, frankly i’m disgusted!
Vermont is awesome, they have the best johnny cakes & maple syrup
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i was wondering if anyone would pick that up
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
this is turning into a carry on film faster than you can say
‘are you free?’
‘i’m free’
yes i know thats from ‘are you being served’ but whatever
Fabulous
is my daughter’s favorite word to describe many of her gay friends (and she has a lot of them, being in theater and all).
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 20, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
why is everyone so hostile to the French surrender
when the Austrians signed their country away with the stroke of a pen? The French at least had an army mobilized against them.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
mobilized, yes
actually ready to fight? Not so much. One of my favorite quotes from a Paris newspaper after France declared war against Germany is (paraphrasing): “Six weeks into the war and it appears the only people not aware we are at war is the French Army.”
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Still, compare that to the Austrians
The French government thought themselves safe behind the invincible Maginot line. Which turned out to be very stupid, yes. But you know, at least they were invaded. Rather than given the hint that they might be invaded, and then followed that with “please let us just be absorbed by you”
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
to be fair, Hitler was Austian
I’m sure they thought they were getting a great deal! He threw in undercoating!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I hate people from north texas
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
prophetjohn = hitler
full circle!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
austin isn't north texas
and i’m from central missouri
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by prophetjohn on Dec 21, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
I didn't say anything about north texas.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
i have confuse
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by prophetjohn on Dec 21, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
i corrected it
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
The land of now "Austria" was part of the German Confederation back in the day
Along with Hungary and Czech/Slovakia and a lot of Poland. At the time (1860s), a lot of people wanted a “Großdeutschland” (unification of the whole German Confederation). Unfortunately, Prussia basically took control of just Germany after the Franco-Prussian War. They probably could have taken the rest but didn’t want to fight the Austrian Empire AND Russians. But the desire to have a fully united “German people” (Austria speaks German, the whole area did then) still existed.
Austria after WWI wanted to become a part of Germany almost unanimously (it was called German Austria FFS) but France didn’t think that was a good idea because……they are France. So of course Austria still wanted to be part of Germany since no one seemed to know how nuts Hitler was—-despite WRITING A FUCKING BOOK detailing what he was gonna do. Honestly Hitler’s first moves weren’t all that random, it was seen as just trying to go back to uniting the German Confederation. Everyone figured he’d stop there…
Bottom line, silly Europeans.
Not afraid to nitpick
Yea,
Hitler’s initial focus/argument was that all the people in the Sudetenland were, really, Germans and he was re-joining them. Same with the other areas he occupied. Austria was a logical extension to this and, iirc, many Austrians did welcome the Anschuss. Others, not so much.
I’m not sure about Austria’s capacity to resist the takeover at that time. My impression is they didn’t have a very large armed forces but I really don’t know. Curiously enough, at least according to The Sound of Music, they did have a navy. (For the Danube perhaps?)
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 21, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
WW2 is basically the reason "appeasment" will never again be a succesfull diplomatic strategy
“Oh, we gave them what they want! They’re good now! Trust them!”
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Yep, but that lesson keeps getting forgotten
again and again.
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 21, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
No, we opt for preemptive wars with no victory strategy now
or even better, proxy wars in areas taht we forget about a month later.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
I was referring more to individuals
but you have a valid point too. To bad that whole “United Nations” idea hasn’t worked so great, huh? (to be honest, it has done some good but preventing wars? not so much.)
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 21, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
The UN eliminated smallpox
it’s saved more lives through that one act than any organization in the history of humankind. U Thant was also pretty pivotal in preventing the Cuban missile crisis from turning South.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Yea the Cuban Missle Crisis was probably it's finest hour
in regards to helping nations avoid armed conflict. Like I said, it’s done some good, quite a bit, actually, in humanitarian aid and efforts (like smallpox, as you mentioned).
In fact, I’m probably way off base here because there’s no telling how many more conflicts there might have been without some of those humanitarian efforts. I’m definitely not one of those anti-UN, they’re going to take over the world types.
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 21, 2010 1:45 AM EST up reply actions
As of WWI, they had Mediterranean access
The Austo-Hungarian empire included much of the former Yugoslavia.
And the Anschluss was very definitely carred out under threat of invasion. The PM of Austria was not eager to sign his position over, but the Austrian Nazi party and Hitler at the gates pretty much made it a fait accompli. But a braver leader could have said no, or fled the country and set up a government in exile.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Ah, I had forgotten that
(the access to the Med).
I’m not arguing that they couldn’t have resisted. It would have been futile, but the government did capitulate. Still, I think it was a very different situation than that of France (and I don’t by any means think the French were cowards, they were simply not prepared and overwhelmed.)
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 21, 2010 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
I really love this blog
only at VEB could The Sound of Music get used as a credible historical reference.
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
French women, however
are awesome
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
what game?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I would assume Civilization, something between 1-5.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
C'est dommage que tu n'aimes pas la France.
Tant pis pour toi! La France est belle, les francaises sont belles et la nourriture est excellente.
by mattisnotfrench on Dec 20, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, but I don't remember who.
Actually, I think she was on the High School side getting kids into college.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
That works too
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
she hasn't been around for awhile.
and, judging by her FB page, she is still mourning boog.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
i knew you & her would take this hardest
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Boy it would sure be great is she came around
AndiK. DAR. Other keywords.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
send her a tweet.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'm not admissions,
but I do some little recruiting. What’s your question?
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 20, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
my wife is senior ambassador for admissions
she’s worked in the admissions office for 4 years
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
alright, alright, we get it, you married an amazing gal, you don't have to keep rubbing it in
nobody likes a braggart
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
she got a real job last week too!
she’s way more smart than me. If I didn’t brag about her, I’d have nothing to brag about
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
like i said, you totally outkicked the coverage
congrats on the real job beedubs
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
of course the straussycorn thinks Greinke won't be good for the brew crew
no, seriously he does, he told Bernie as much on his show today
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Perhaps he likes to remain tucked?
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
Because going from the AL to the NL won't help Grienke,
nor will going from a division with one below-average offensive team (Cleveland) to a division with three below-average offensive teams (Pittsburgh, Houston, and Chicago).
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
he's taking shots at his depression, which is a new low for the straussycorn
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Wow.
Obviously, I am not listening. I try to have as little to do with him as possible. I hope he isn’t suggesting that Greinke is mentally tough enough to pitch in a division race because of his depression.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
that's exactly what he said
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i'd say that's the reason why players are scared of revealing their depression
fucks like strauss who use it as an excuse for why he can’t come through when it counts
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 20, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
hell i'm not an rich athlete & i don't even want to talk about it
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
or maybe he should get on the front office for not having proper medical support for the players.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 20, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
this is correct
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 20, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Hardly surprising
From the guy that derides whatever he doesn’t understand.
by Merry CRasmus on Dec 20, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
I hate to talk Bear handegg on here
but that game tonight is rather weird, is it not?
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 7:28 PM EST reply actions
It's awesome.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Brett Favre will be comfortable in Wrangler in the lockerroom.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
players are complaining about the conditions and Favre doesn't even know what state he's in
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
He's actually starting, ESPN just said.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
it's chaos I tell ya
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
wrong field. check.
winter solstice. check.
bears somehow staying ahead of the packers. probably check.
frozen solid field. check.
bears playing in bad weather again. check.
no adrian peterson. check.
ok I’ll shut up now
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
you forgot the 8 feet of snow
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
they cleared it all
that doesn’t count the snow that’s falling now, though
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That's not snow
that’s scraps of the Metrodome roof
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
oh, believe me
that’s snow.
these are the people who build ice palaces for fun
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Don't post that
The NFL might want to move the game to there
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
they are playing at a college stadium
the nfl fans will be mad that they can’t drink
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
three-fourths full
and damn it, SBN! these scripts are destroyng my computer. it’s probably loading spyware in, too.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
sounds like they've got the viking horn okay
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I love how the punter is complaining about the field being "unplayable"
grow a pair kluwe!
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
yeah, he's the main person complaining about it
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
I tuned in a while ago
found out some guy in a ski mask had hijacked Monday Night Handegg
and found out someone made Jim Hayes into a tree-topper
The Cat says he’s also a “great stocking stuffer”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The Cat is so naughty.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Did he say he is one? Or that he has one?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 20, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
i hate Brett Favre
Go Bears!
Why haven’t the Bears and Rams developed a rivalry like other sports? Better yet, why are they in different divisions? (And yes this is the main cause for my first question)
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 20, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
Because LA Rams
(And Minnesota, Green Bay, and Detroit.)
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
well that makes sense
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 20, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Plus any shift would require Dallas to move West
And Jerry Jones isn’t having any of that.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
Haha!
“There’s gotta be some painkillers involved…”
Steve Young talking about Brett Favre
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
He does look stoned
Wait, nevermind, he’s actually frozen.
(I think.)
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
The Brewers are now fringe contenders
And sacrificed being anything resembling good once all these players are impossible to re-sign the next few years.
Dear god this is terrifying... terrifyingly hilarious!!!
by Aranathor on Dec 20, 2010 8:45 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
she could do this, and be celebrated for it.
the dancing at the end is awesome.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
greatest pic you'll see all day, probably all week, maybe even all year
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
by gdm426 on Dec 20, 2010 9:42 PM EST reply actions 16 recs
rec'd
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Also, pic of Gussie.
Sigh.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
It kinda looks like they're all taking a leak on a couch
by BTown Birds fan on Dec 20, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
is Strauss on the couch?
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
by mattyfrommo on Dec 20, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I always suspected he was into that
by BTown Birds fan on Dec 20, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
haha, and it's not even past midnight
nice
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I exist *inside* of Amaury Marti Cazana
by BTown Birds fan on Dec 20, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
err...in a completely non-sexual way...
That was somewhat awkwardly worded; I’m glad my wife doesn’t read this blog.
by BTown Birds fan on Dec 20, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
...it's not that much past midnight.
unless you’re saying he’s actually a blue police box
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 20, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
it's past midnight if you haven't been to sleep yet
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
by mattyfrommo on Dec 20, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
yeah that's what I thought, too
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 21, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
that's been around before, right?
and green
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
oh man if so i'm sorry, rains dad tweeted it this afternoon & i had never seen it
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i thought i saw it in the paper, gameday, or somwhere else
it’s always great to see that picture
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
i assumed it was from the stan day late in the season
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
it was
I knew I had seen it. Page 37 of the Stan Gameday issue. Now ya gotta dig up the front view, its awesome as well.
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
by mattyfrommo on Dec 20, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
aren't those only sold at the park?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
you can subscribe to it
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
by mattyfrommo on Dec 20, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
7 issues for $35bucks seems like a lot of money
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i did not know the price, it was a gift
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
by mattyfrommo on Dec 20, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
just looking at it online & there are no pics like that one
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
tell Rains to get on the ball!
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
by mattyfrommo on Dec 20, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
no one follows me on twitter so they don't listen to me
although the Hawks beautiful sister started following me today which is awesome
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
But you get two free tics
( my daughter gave me a subscription this year, we weren’t ever able to use the tic coupons, however)
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 20, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
that's worth it right there then depending on where the seats are
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Yea, I don't remember the particulars/limits
But she bought the sub on our annual trip to StL and we never had time to make a return trip this past summer. They weren’t standing room, I do remember that.
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 20, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
I think the seats were pavillion seats
I don’t know for sure, but I think they were weekday game tickets. I didn’t use em, I gave em to my dad.
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
Doesn't matter.
Great pic, gdm. Thanks for the share.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 20, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed
I just thought maybe I was losing it
then i wondered if i took those pictures
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
by mattyfrommo on Dec 20, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
when you start losing it, trust me, i'll let you know bro
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
you're welcome, glad you all like it
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
nice, but don't you ever get tired of riding my coat tails?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
codyg also likes to pat himself on the back
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Brian Barton signs with Reds
Brian Barton sighting: The OF batted .346 with 19 HR, 18 SB in Atlantic League this year and got signed by #Reds.
http://bit.ly/idUXeS Atlantic League info
He's gonna be a 3 WAR player for them
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 20, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking about him the other day actually.
The outcry of boog being traded reminded me of the mood of VEB when crabman was traded
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
remember how he was traded for nothing?
there’s been a lot of that going around lately over the last few years
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
As I said before,
I’m going to do a serious happy dance when TLR and Mo have moved on.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 20, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
I think Mo deserves a chance to GM without TLR also there
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I think I'm going to have a serious bias against the guy for the remainder of his stay.
Can’t help it, it’s in my programming.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 21, 2010 3:38 AM EST up reply actions
i'm getting there too, but right now i am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
seems to be a theme
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
You're seriously undervaluing
those 40 days that Blaine Boyer held together the bullpen.
by Merry CRasmus on Dec 20, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
no, that's *with* him being Adam Wainwright's best bud
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 20, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
i know right
what a loss considering all his major league contributions recently. how did we not get a blue chip prospect in return?
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 21, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
fixed
what a loss considering all his major league contributions recently. how did we not get ablue chipactual prospect in return?
Fire John Mozeliak
the answer
is because rival GMs don’t evaluate players based on how cool they are. we got about as much value out of the trade as the braves did
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
value of average major league shortstop for league minimum =/= value of fringy A ball relief prospect
Fire John Mozeliak
oops, my Brendan Ryan tick went off
it happens.
Blaine Boyer == don’t give a fuck.
Brian Barton == coolest walk-up song (it was A Change Gonna Come by Sam Cooke)
Fire John Mozeliak
Or was it the Seal version?!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Oh sadly no, but you can hear such great hits as
Cupid and Bring It On Home To Me
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Dec 21, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
i'm glad to see him get another shot at MLB
but i don’t care for seeing him join those derelicts in Cincinnati.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 20, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Possible platoon partner for Bruce?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
well one thing's for sure
he’ll have a tough time stealing Miguel Cairo’s roster spot.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 20, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
dammit
that sucks
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 20, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
it *is* kind of cool seeing them throw the snow in Minne again
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Do we have to wait for the ZiPS projections on the Mariners for Brendan Ryan's projection?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
just throw up the Szymborski sign
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
252/306/334, 73 OPS+ in STL, 242/298/323, 71 OPS+ in SEA, +8 defensive runs.
by D.Szymborski on Dec 21, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
he's the hero we deserve.
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Dec 21, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
when you need some projections, who you gonna call?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Wait
Is he batman or Peter Venkman?
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
That's good for about 1.5 WAR
Is the +8 per 150 games?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the conversion
I was wondering. So, that’s a slight uptick from 2010, correct (wasn’t he right at 1 WAR?)
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 21, 2010 1:50 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
And I think that Szym is regressing his defense too hard. Boog looks like the best defender in baseball.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:06 AM EST up reply actions
Bissinger on the Twitter
Has Buzz Bissinger lost his mind? I don’t even know what this tweet means. Is it haiku?
Cardinals—Carp on downslide, Westbrook slightly better than Tomko, Garcia flash, Wainwright real deal. Forget hitting.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
buzz is off his meds & has lost his f'ing mind, i had to unfollow him a while ago
he’s really unstable
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
he's a caricature of himself.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
do you think it's on purpose?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
maybe
but I honestly think it’s a better chance that he’s actually insane.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
uh, did anyone else see him with Leitch
on that Bob Costas show. Dude is definitely insane. Oh, and Buzz: I’ve read hundreds of books and seen hundreds of movies, and Friday Night Lights is the only movie I can definitively say was better than the book. So take that! or something…
and the TV show blows both of them out of the water
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
he had a mind?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
There are certainly good reasons to be worried about the 2011 Birds,
(and the Carp thing is a legitimate worry IMO), but most of what he said is just stupid.
by BTown Birds fan on Dec 20, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
Jaime was on MLB Network
this evening. Unfortunately I was listening to the simulcast on XM so I didn’t see it. He was showing the change in his arm slot from pre and post surgery. Talked about his four pitches and got lots for props from Mitch Williams, Harold and some other host.
Using ZiPS projections, Waino's #s from last season, and Baseball Musings Lineup Analysis
Your 2011 Cardinals Optimum lineup
5.039 rpg
Lance Berkman
Albert Pujols
Yadier Molina
Colby Rasmus
Matt Holliday
David Freese
Skip Schumaker
Adam Wainwright
Ryan Theriot
linky
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Of course, the pitcher would hit 8th...
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
If TLR had any knowledge of how to use OPS to fillout a lineup card
this would be a good lineup
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Predicted opening day lineup:
Schumaker
Theriot
Pujols
Holliday
Berkman
Freese
Rasmus
Molina
Wainwright
Eyes will role…
Then two games into the season after the poet proves he can’t hit worth a damn it will be:
Schumaker
Berkman
Pujols
Holliday
Freese
Molina
Rasmus
Westbrook
T.H. Eriot
Then after we get swept by the Padres it will be:
Schumaker
Jay
Pujols
Holliday
Berkman
Molina
Freese
Lohse
T.H. Eriot
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
I will punch somebody in the face if
Theriot bats 2nd on opening day
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
ugh. I don't think this team is going to be good.
I’d be surprised if we win 86 games again.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
why isn't Lego hitting 2nd? i thought he should always hit 2nd?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
it's basically the same if you switch Albert and Lego
a difference of .005 rpg
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
correction
that’s if you move albert to 4th, colby to 5th, and lego to 2nd
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
WHATUP LATE NIGHT VEB
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
hello young man.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
havent slept a wink
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
you failed your beatles class, I assume.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Oh. That.
I actually missed the White Album day in class >_>
Also I’m delirious right now. I think I’m gonna go buy beer.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I actually think that the White Album is the weakest of their later albums
I wish they would’ve just kept it as the standard 14 songs
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
as an overall Album, yes
although I would quibble and ay Magical Mystery Tour. But the highlights on it are so GD damn that the White Album is impossible to ignore. I’m so Tired, Rocky Raccoon (yes, I’m an unabashed lover of it), the George Harrison Contributions (While my Guitar.., and Long, Long, Long). I even think “I will” is an incredible song.
It's not Abbey Road
but it’s one of the better double disc albums ever (RIP Use Your Illusions 1 & 2).
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
There's also a few songs on the White Album that I NEVER listen to, though.
Also, Rocky Raccoon is one of my Top-5 favorite Beatles songs, and I feel like Long, Long, Long is just beautiful sandwiched between two hard songs in Helter Skelter and Revolution 1 (…in before mom jokes)
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
get some bourbon, it will put some hair on your chest
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
See, it's funny b/c asians don't have chest hair.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I have a mustache though
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I'm sure it's awesome...
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Fuck yeah it is
Okay enough chitchat
Time to journey to find some food and alcohol
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Oh, speaking of the Beatles
Apparently their discography is exactly the length of the drive from LA to Albuquerque
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Cards 2011 schedule
After the opening six game homestand, the Cards go on a 10 game West Coast roadtrip sandwich by off days. The Cards get to see the Giants get their rings, then play AZ for 3 and LA for 4. Could be a tough April unlike the last three years.
two thoughts:
1. I’m glad to get the west coast trip out of the way early, and I think LA and AZ will stink, so that will help
2. I normally take a few days off during the club’s west coast swing in mid summer as a quick vacay at home, so I guess I’ll miss that, which kind of stinks.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Interleague just isn't fair this year
St. Louis
6 vs. KC
3 vs. BAL
3 vs. TOR
3 vs. TB
Milwaukee
6 vs. MIN
3 vs. BOS
3 vs. NYY
3 vs TB
Cincinnati
6 vs. CLE
3 vs. NYY
3 vs TB
3 vs. BAL
3 vs. TOR
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
WHAT THE FUCK
WE AREN’T PLAYING DETROIT!?!??!?!??!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
(we play Detroit seemingly every year.)
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I remember excessive games against the Indians
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
i'll take it
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 20, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
With all the analysis of who the favorite is in the NL Central...
no one mentions we have +3 games on the Brewers just because of interleague stupidity.
Sign Carl Pavano!!!
that's a brutal interleague schedule
it’s possible the Brewers could go anywhere from 0-15 to 5-10 in interleague.
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
maybe we'll beat bad teams this year....
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 20, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
damnit, I love when the Cards play the BoSox/Yankees
I’m weird like that. I also like it when we face off against aces.
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Dec 20, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
does it?
i mean, his FIP was around Jaime Garcia level last year.
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Dec 21, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
I'd just like to point out
i believe this is the latest we’ve still been talking about baseball for about the past month
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i wasn't on that night so it doesn't count
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Aranathor's fabulousness isn't here, that's why
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Ugh
Andres Galaraaga sucked for us.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
he was no puma
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 21, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
Look at that OPS trend!
that could only happen from 1985-2004 w/ the roid era in there plus Colorado… we just had him for the worst year possible in all of it.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
except he did the exact same thing his first year in ATL
the talent pool dilution was a pretty big part of that jump
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
Every once in a while, I still feel a random twinge of fury directed at Ron Gant
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Honestly living through those random bad 90's teams
and players like Felix Jose that I cherish like 20 year olds do now Reggie Sanders make me happy to be a Cardinals fan through some lean years. I was so excited for a Brian Jordan Ray Lankford Bernard Gilkey outfield when I was 12! And I still have all of their autographs!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
for some reason I always think of you as being much older than me, when that is not exactly the case
I think it’s the marines thing
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I'm 30.
But I pretend I live in 1962.
Without the racism, of course.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
just to rui
I mean, he’s majoring in MATH!?!?!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I'm sure you're not good at math...
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Well
I am
But goddammit I’m a good driver and I’m good at sports and I’m not awkward around girls
I’m engaged! What kind of nerdy Asian dude gets engaged!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
How did 16 Candles end?
Was Long Duck Dong engaged?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
No clue. I was too busy not-watching-the-movie the last time I watched that movie
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
As a nerdy asian-american, this is offensive to your culutre.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
He wasn't engaged.
But the Donga was in selious need of swreep.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 21, 2010 3:44 AM EST up reply actions
i deduced that from the 1992 outfield +12 yrs old
I’m 21, so i guess you’re a little older, but I remember the tail end of the gilkey/lankford/jordan OF
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
IT WAS A GLORIOUS, MEDIOCRE TIME!!!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
heh
it was a pretty cool team, even though they weren’t that great
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 21, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Jordan was a freaking beast
i don’t care if he wasn’t that good, he was a beast
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i had so much hope for the Big Cat & he really sucked
then he goes to the Rockies goes nuts
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yeah
that sucked
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 21, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
replacing Jack poopy Clark was tough
Bob Horner, Petey Guerroro, Big Cat, Zeile, Jeffries, Mabry, and finally McGwire (with a Will Clark cameo) before Tino and El Hombre.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
on the other hand
Will Clark went absolutely apeshit for the Cardinals, even destroyed pitching in the playoffs
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 21, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
I was always a huge Clark fan
(my uncle lived in SF during the late 80’s and he always sent me giants gear so when I wasn’t cheering for the cards, I was cheering for the giants), so when we picked him up in 2000 I was ecstatic. That was a really fun august – october.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
i loved Clark too, i don't know why, i should have hated the guy but i didn't
he has just a beautiful swing.
and i swear if painguy puts up a gif & says he really didn’t i’ll fight him. and by fight him i mean call him names from 400miles away
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
yep
his swing seemed similar to colby’s swing
very smooth. when he squared it the ball just jumped off his bat
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 21, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
I did hate that guy
but he won me over on the cardinals right before he retired
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 21, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
i kind of liked some athletes who were aholeish back in the day
i had a huge chip on my shoulder back then & really liked players who were considered jerks
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
you were a big Canseco fan?
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 21, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
i actually was till he went to texas
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i remember carl everett had a bit of a reputation
I remember on a Fox Saturday game of the week he got tossed by the home plate ump for standing too close to the plate and arguing about it.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i had lost the chip by that time
that was 03 wasn’t it?
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he was on the redsox at the time
so it was either ’00 or ’01
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
it was the same year, maybe even the same game
Pedro threw Zimmer to the ground wasn’t it?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
no
that was in the late 00s
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
it was ARod's first season in NYC right?
that was 04 wasn’t it?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
idk not sure
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
it was 2004
guess crazy carl was a few years earlier. the 00’s really are just a blur to me
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I hated Everett's take on the dinosaurs
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 21, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
que?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
He doesn't believe that dinosaurs existed
And that fossils are only here to test our faith in God or something like that
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
ok
that’s a pretty common creation theory held by christians that the earth was created with age,
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
most christians believe in dinosaurs though
at least the ones i’ve been around
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
yeah most believe they walked around the garden
with adam and eve too, and that just doesn’t make a lick of sense
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
The katest version of the bible i read
said civilization was cool until Shawn Michaels superkicked Marty Janetty though Brutus Beefcake’s Barbershop Window. It was all down hill from there.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
gdm meet sue the T-rex
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i don't follow
are you saying sue would have eaten adam & eve of she was in the garden?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
OK, i get it
i can’t go any further without breaking the religion law so i’ll just stop.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
jesus would have protected them
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
can i say what i was taught?
would that offend anyone?
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I don't think there are really rules in late night VEB
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter is an inferior medium for this type of discussion
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Yeah but nobody uses it
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
well if y'all want to know
i was taught that before Adam & Eve ate the apple in the garden there was no sin & therefore no blood was shed. so all the animals & Adam & Eve were vegetarians. it was only after they ate the apple that blood was shed & the animals turned on each other & men began to eat meat.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
so all the dinosaurs were dead by then?
if not, that still doesn’t explain it
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twatter
no they weren't dead, they were vegetarians
i’m not really sure what killed the dinosaurs. if you believe the story of the flood then there were at least two of every kind of dinosaur on Noah’s Ark. so they would have survived the flood. i never really did a lot of research into what happened to them.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
it wasn't until after the flood
that man began to eat meat
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Exodus 9:1-4
[9:1] And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth. 2 The fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth and upon every bird of the heavens, upon everything that creeps on the ground and all the fish of the sea. Into your hand they are delivered. 3 Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything. 4 But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
hmm, i'm going to have to do some research
tomorrow, i was sure in genesis there was something very similar
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i meant genesis
that is genesis 9 right after Noah and his family get off the ark
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
then we're probably thinking the same thing
only i got my time line wrong. really the last time i got into this was high school. i’m a terrible christian
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
created with age?
meaning it was billions of years old when it was created?
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 21, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
that's the theory
Adam was created with age, plants, other animals, even the earth was created with sedimentary layers including fossils. Not saying i agree, that’s just a theory some hold.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
You hit the nail on the head regarding Everett and dinosaur fossils.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Can we rob the Royals of Alex Gordon in some way?
Please? Pretty please?
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
why do you think we have vans?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
that van is useless
it never goes anywhere. i think it runs on leaded gas or sumpin
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
I'm watching Black Swan right now
Shit is nuts
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
holy shit
that umm…scene… between mila and portman… ummmm… HOLY SHIT
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Haven't gotten to that yet! Stoppit!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
how are you watching it?
you aren’t on mobile and i’m assuming you didn’t bring your computer to the theatre…
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 21, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
Well there's this thing called the internet
And you can download stuff…
A good quality DVDRip’s already leaked
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
what site did you get it from?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
A private one. They download stuff then upload it onto megaupload with a private password so only the community can use them
It’s nice
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
just email me the link already, you know i won't share
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Remind me to do it tomorrow
I’m using my iPhone’s internet, which doesn’t let me onto https:// sites, as opposed to http:// sites
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
don't act like i know how to steal movies off the internet from theatres
that’s why i asked you! to see how i could get it!
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 21, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
Rui might
“hey guys look I’m blogging!”
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 1:58 AM EST up reply actions
Just watch this and call it a night
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
or like to be employed.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
wow
ahem thanks a lots….
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 21, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
And fang thought he didn't have plans tonight...
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
about that...
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 21, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
Holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:01 AM EST up reply actions
I'm like 10 minutes in and the tone of the movie already has me wigging out
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
OH GOD NATALIE PORTMAN IS MASTURBATING
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
OH MY GOD
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 21, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
WHERE
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 21, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
I am 3 months away from last having had sex
And 1 full day’s drive from having it again
Don’t take this from me
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i'm actually embarrassed at how long my streak is
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
meh
I’ve gotten over it, I guess, resigned myself to my lot in life. ‘Course you’re quite a bit younger than me so there’s still hope for you.
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 21, 2010 1:55 AM EST up reply actions
2 years, bitch.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 21, 2010 1:56 AM EST up reply actions
Like my brother always says:
There’s two kinds of liars. Those that say they never have, and those that say they’ve quit.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 21, 2010 3:54 AM EST up reply actions
OH GOD SHES DOING IT AGAIN
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
OH MAN THAT DID NOT TURN OUT HOW I THOUGHT IT WOULD
THIS MOVIE IS FREAKING ME THE FUCK OUT
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I'm by myself in a strange town in a hotel room. By myself.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
If it was Guayzimi's grandma I wouldn't be complaining
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:03 AM EST up reply actions
Do you have a good HD link to this?
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
To the full movie?
No. DVDRip, which has been plenty good for me
HD won’t be out until the Blu-Ray is released, I’m guessing
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
What's DVDRip?
And I mean high quality, cause megavideo and shit usually suck.
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:07 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it's pretty good quality.
It’s not a Cam or anything
http://faq.programmerworld.net/misc/all-about-movie-tags.html
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
DO YOU HAVE A LINK TO WHERE I CAN WATCH THIS MOVIE
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:11 AM EST up reply actions
HIS EAGERNESS DESCRIBES MINE AS WELL
to get a link
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 21, 2010 2:11 AM EST up reply actions
I'm afraid I hyped it up too much tonight
It truly is a very very good movie, but I’m also drunk
VEP I’m worried about you especially because you’re not a fan of Chris Nolan, and Aranofsky can be pretty similar
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I like psychological movies
And I liked Nolan up until Inception. And I like Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis. I mean I don’t think this can go wrong.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:16 AM EST up reply actions
How do you feel about lesbian sex scenes?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
that scene wasn't that good
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
It was decent
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:18 AM EST up reply actions
...name one better lesbian sex scene in a mainstream movie
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Ever see Henry and June?
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:19 AM EST up reply actions
And it's not like you can specifically remember the sex scenes from movies
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:19 AM EST up reply actions
I remember the one from 300
But there are reasons I remember that scene
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i don't remember anything like that in 300
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Mysterui thinks that gay scenes qualify as lesbian ones
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:23 AM EST up reply actions
Not the lesbian scene
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i'm telling you, i've seen 300 twice
and there was no lesbian scene
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I knowwwww
I mean the regular sex scene
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i don't even remember that
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
yes I am over 18
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:53 AM EST up reply actions
No one does love scenes
the way Angie Cepeda does. Check out Pantaleon y las visitadoras, or Oculto. She is hot,
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 21, 2010 3:12 AM EST up reply actions
it was pretty graphic for a mainstream movie
but i honestly can’t remember any other scenes
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
oh ya the chick from big love & moore
that was about the same as the one fritz posted
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
uh yeah
less attractive girls though
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 22, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
Meh that scene seemed so awkward to me
Portman especially is a few sandwiches short of hot IMO
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
I DO BUT I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO UNTIL TOMORROW
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I can get the link where I downloaded it from
But I can’t get to it until tomorrow
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
That doesn't make sense
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:14 AM EST up reply actions
It's on a website that I'm a member of
That website is prefaced by https://
I’m using my iPhone’s internet, using PDANet, which can only go to http:// sites
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
are there other movies there?
because there’s a ton of stuff i want to see but haven’t yet
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
This site has everything. Literally everything.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
what is it called?
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:23 AM EST up reply actions
The current site is
endoftheinter.net
It’s more commonly known as Luelinks
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
can I have your username and password?
or how do you get one?
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:26 AM EST up reply actions
See the post two posts down
It logs me out every time someone else logs in with my account (my best friend from Missouri)
Which is a bitch when I need something… so I don’t think I can give you my username/password
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I once had 5 different friends using my account
And I could never actually use the site when I needed to. I made them all buy their own accounts (except one, obviously)
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i'd be interested that site too,
is it better than bit torrent
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
They're all privately hosted on megaupload, so download speeds are pretty constant
At school I get 1.00 MB/S most of the time
The site is private though, and though they open invitations occasionally, they’re $20 (I think)
I’d be more than happy to invite you all if invitations are open and you PayPal me the money, though
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
hmmm
prolly not, who pays to download stuff these days anyway?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
not me, I just don't wanna have to spend 20 minutes searching for a high quality movie
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:29 AM EST up reply actions
there are lots of dvd screeners up on demonoid
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I mean, I understand. It was free for me to join, so it's been all gravy
I’ve invited a bunch of my friends though, who say it’s really worth it. It’s instant access with a reliable source
It’s really tough to torrent old movies, but this site keeps all the downloads in an easily searchable database
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
but it costs money?
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 21, 2010 2:31 AM EST up reply actions
One time $20 to join the site, yes
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
yeah im a cheap bastard
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 21, 2010 2:38 AM EST up reply actions
That's fine
I neither gain nor lose anything by you guys joining
It’s an incredible site with every program/album/movie available
The offer’s always on the table
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
final fantasy six slash three!
i spent a lot of time playing this today. not having school is fun
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twatter
Is that the Terra one?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
yeah
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by prophetjohn on Dec 21, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
Great game. Only FF I've ever played, but I liked it a lot
But Chronotrigger/Secret of Mana are where it’s at
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
you should probably play 7
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by prophetjohn on Dec 21, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
theough 12 to be for real
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by prophetjohn on Dec 21, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
To reinforce a stereotype
I actually stopped playing RPGs when I started dating my fiancee
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
6 is my fave
wtf is the “slash three” jazz??
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 21, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
it's really final fantasy three
but the name was changed to six or something
The game was known as Final Fantasy III when it was first released in North America, as the original Final Fantasy III had not been released outside of Japan at the time. However, later localizations used the original title.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VI
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by prophetjohn on Dec 21, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
yep! that's the one
kefka is amongst my favorite characters in any genre in any medium
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 21, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
sup VEB?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 21, 2010 12:58 AM EST reply actions
hey guy.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
ugh.
you’re still a member of the site? and still out of bed?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 21, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
you would want me to still be in bed.
you and aranthor.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
no son of mine will be a dandy dan! so sir! not on my watch!
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
so you don't bug the shit out of me.
please retire old man. it’s past your bedtime.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 21, 2010 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
the fact that you speak ill about retirement and going to bed
says enough about your character. Those are the two things people live for.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
...and then promptly die
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Dec 21, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i meant retire to your bed
retirement will be fucking awesome.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 21, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
25-30 more years
then I’m living the high life!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
45!!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 21, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, good luck with all that...
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
hey thanks.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 21, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
when i was a teen, i was so sure i'd retire by the time i turned 30
with millions, maybe even billions of dollars in my bank account. i had no idea how i was going to get that money, but i was sure i was. i was a really stupid mofo
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
still am..
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
at least now i've learned to keep a majority of my stupidity to myself
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Yet you keep blogging about some of it here...
which implies there’s a whole lot more going on than you’re telling us. Give it up, GDM! Curious minds want to know!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 21, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
just talking 90's baseball, PED's, pirated movies, a little religion & various other things
Aranathor’s fabulousness isn’t here though
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
religion?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 21, 2010 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
well technically history
viewed by various religious
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 21, 2010 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
Carl Everett doesn't believe in dinosaurs
because they’re not in the Bible. And something to do with Gnostics and Epicureans, the Matrix and Philip K. Dick.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 21, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions
sunday school about ha;fway up the thread
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
sounds blasphemous.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 21, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
i have a confession to make
i really like the Target song for their Christmas commercials
i know, i know, i don’t even know who i am anymore
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
BTW, all you latenighters,
if you’ve got clear skies, the lunar eclipse should be starting about now. We’re pretty much overcast here, so I guess I’m out of luck.
sorry...
but i just really don’t give a shit. i just honestly don’t see the big deal.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 21, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
Well, I have a 10 year old son
who loves to stay up as late as possible, so he’ll take any excuse. Plus, astronomy rulez!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 21, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
Well, I like astronomy
and this one is historic in nature (coincidence based that it is). I checked and, luckily, the clouds are thin enough to catch a good look every few seconds. (or, unluckily since this means that I will now stay up for another hour +, geez I dread the alarm going off in the morning!)
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 21, 2010 1:57 AM EST up reply actions
cloudy in chicago, bummer
I was looking forward to it too
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
yeah
i was looking forward to it too
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
the weather guy i watch out here said it was the 1st time in 584ys this happened
i don’t know if i believe that or not, but he’s the best weather guy out here
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
first time that a full lunar eclipse has occured on the winter solstice
since then
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
and we missed it because of snow!!
i think that’s irony or something
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
no, it would be irony if we missed it because of snow on the summer solstice
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
fitting
to be expected, normalcy
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
some forms of normalcy sucks
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Sky is clear here in southern CO.
nothing yet. It’s about 30°, and it’s supposed to start here at 11:33.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 21, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
It's definitely started now
unfortunately, clouds have thickened up and I’m not seeing much of it.
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 21, 2010 2:03 AM EST up reply actions
lots of clouds & snow so we're SOL
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Anyone here like independent foreign films?
I mean, actually like, not pretend.
If so, I highly recommend Dogtooth. Don’t google it, just get it and watch it. It’s better if you go in cold.
Fire John Mozeliak
I watch them when I get a chance
Does Nora’s Will or Nowhere Boy count?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I'll have to check it out
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
if only Aranathor was here to hold you
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
this is awesome.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 21, 2010 1:56 AM EST up reply actions
THIS SHIT IS FUCKED UP MAN
I’VE SEEN THINGS
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Training for the future?
Now you’ll be a better lover?
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 21, 2010 1:58 AM EST up reply actions
IS YOUR MIND GETTING FUCKED?!
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 21, 2010 1:59 AM EST up reply actions
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Ohhhhh man that was good
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
has anybody heard of the On the Rocks?
it’s a Oregon U acapella group that I’ve discovered tonight and it’s amazing – like their cover of White Christmas – it sounds almost exactly like the original except sometimes the background “music” overwhelms the singer
i’m not kidding, everytime i listen to one of their songs, i feel like my ears are getting massaged
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
sounds like they're trying to copy Straight No Chaser
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
probably
but i have liked every cover they have sung so far
Kyrie, Stacey’s Mom are good….
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 21, 2010 2:22 AM EST up reply actions
horny teenagers are horny
it’s quite simple actually
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 21, 2010 2:22 AM EST up reply actions
Also, fun and games with facebook status'e
1) “three days later still thinking about Black Swan” – guy A
“perfect” – guy B
2) “Snuggled in bed with homemade hot chocolate and The Social Network. I looooove Winter Break” – girl A
“that is flawless” – girl B
Also have I mentioned how much I hate the word “mindfuck”?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:26 AM EST up reply actions
thanks for sharing
hey i heard that black swan was a mindfuck – can someone confirm this?
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 21, 2010 2:28 AM EST up reply actions
Mysterui is your mind being fucked right now?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:29 AM EST up reply actions
I finished the movie. And yes.
Also, The Social Network was absolutely incredible
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I liked it too
Did you like No Country for Old Men? I just watched that tonight…
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:34 AM EST up reply actions
It's been on my to-watch list FOREVER
But no, I haven’t
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
watch it
it’s my favorite
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I feel like I should watch it before I watch True Grit
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
have you ever read any mccarthy?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I'm gonna be honest with you
Have literally zero idea of who that is
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Guy who wrote the book to the movie we were just talking about
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:44 AM EST up reply actions
cormac mccarthy
author of the book that No Country was adapted from
other adapted screenplays: The Road(pulitzer prize), Blood Meridian (2011)
Also wrote All the Pretty Horses.
Fantastic author if you like really violent westerns
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I saw the Road the other day
That was fucking depressing.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2010 2:48 AM EST up reply actions
you should read blood meridian
super gory book, movie comes out next spring i think
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I would have given Up the oscar
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
So
off brand pizza rolls suuuuuck
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Now that was cool
moon turned orange
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 21, 2010 2:44 AM EST reply actions
this X1000
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
ok,
i really can’t see much, it’s not moving
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
lunar eclipse via web stream sucks
theres just something about viewing it with your own eyes, the way ancients viewed it.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
wat
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
ah that changes things a bit
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
frickin ads
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
y'all want an overflow?
my pos dell isn’t happy that we’re over a 1000 comments
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i think we're the only two still up, therefore i don't think we need one
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i'm here!
but my compy is fine with this thread
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Well, I'm here
but I’m checking out. Damn clouds, stayed up till 2:00 for nothing (well, except that I can’t see the moon now while I could earlier, but no orange show for me) Good night everybody.
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 21, 2010 3:05 AM EST up reply actions
i'm sad
on the flip side I just started following Jesus Christ on twitter
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
is that Jesus? Jesus Christ our Lord?
no, it’s just Rush
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
haha
i’m glad you can make that distinction, so many people cannot
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
that's from Bevis & Butthead circa 1994
but yeah, i do know the difference
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
this one
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
it's funny that he doesn't follow anybody
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I didn't even click on it until I saw this....
Great movie…..effin kids probably have no idea what a schooner is.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Reported
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 21, 2010 3:29 AM EST up reply actions
where did you come from?
VEB late night lurker
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I'm always here
I’m never gone
I’m blogging from inside your house
from the attic
in the trunk
the one with the ventriloquist dummy
the dummy from
HELL!!!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 21, 2010 3:33 AM EST up reply actions
dang
that sounds creepier than black swan
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Trust me
it isn’t. It’s sort of dark and dank in here, and the dummy smells sorta musty, like Satan hasn’t used him in a long, long time. Plus, I think the battery on my ’puter is dying. Could you bring up a really long extension cord?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 21, 2010 3:39 AM EST up reply actions
you're in the attic
i thought creepy dummies from hell were always kept in the basement?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Nah
too close to the furnace, reminds them too much of Hell, so they tend to migrate to the attic…..in the middle of the night.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 21, 2010 3:42 AM EST up reply actions
i don't have an attic though
just an old lady that lives in the apt above me
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
in the middle of the niiiight, i go walking in my sleep,
from the mountains of faith, to a river so deeeeep
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
oh wow
i didn’t expect that
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
youneverknow when the piano man will show up
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
or the spanish inquisition
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
well now i'm expecting him
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
nah
he’s in bed i’m sure
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
speaking of, i should probably mosey on over there
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
to Y2S's bed
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Sorry we're late, the Szymborski Signal was in the way.
NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!!!
by The Spanish Inquisition on Dec 21, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
it's fine, we weren't expecting you anyway
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
uh that was so VEB morning
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i just had sex!
not really, but these guys did & it’s pretty funny
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i literally just watched that
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Is this the Lonely Island video
from yesterday’s post?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 21, 2010 3:34 AM EST up reply actions
are you sure? i checked & didn't see it
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
ya, my bad, i just saw the youtube link
i was looking for Hulu links which is why i didn’t see it. i couldn’t find the original on youtube so i didn’t think it was there yet
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
it's going to take a lot to beat I'm On A Boat, that's so awesome
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
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