The Nephilim Are On The Earth in These Days: Cliff Lee and a Chat Thread
So the big news of the past few days is, of course, Cliff Lee spurning the hated East Coast superpower Yankees' offers of riches beyond counting to accept the hated East Coast superpower Phillies' offer of slightly less -- though still not easily countable -- riches. For my part, I suppose it's at least interesting to see a player finally go somewhere other than New York or Boston, but that's rather cold comfort when contemplating seeing Philadelphia six times in the regular season. Or, worse yet, in a playoff series. Oh, well. I suppose the Cardinals would have to actually make the playoffs before that becomes a concern, and I'm not at all confident in their ability to do that. So, cart before the horse and all that.
I haven't done a chat in what seems like forever; my schedule has simply been too full this autumn and early winter to allow it. This afternoon, however, I find myself with a couple free hours, so rather than hammer away at the keys, trying to draw sense from the resultant mass, I'm just going to sit here with my laptop and let you all generate the content for me. How does it feel being used? Ha ha! And just look how little I care!
Anyway, unpleasantness aside, I'll be here until about three-ish. Topics can include, well, pretty much whatever. You've seen how these things work before. So ask away, and I'll do my very best to dance at the end of your string.
The Baron's Playlist for the 15th of December, 2010 -- Three Pair
"Unchanging Window" - Broadcast
"The English Motorway System" - Black Box Recorder
"Here Come the Romans" - Cherry Ghost
"40 Day Dream" - Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeroes
"Take Off Your Sunglasses" - Ezra Furman and the Harpoons
"Goodbye Lorraine" - Frank Black and the Catholics
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Hey, RB
You said that you’re not confident in this club’s ability to make the playoffs. Why is that? I’m not sure I necessarily disagree with such an assessment, but I’m curious on the specifics of your reasoning behind that conclusion.
Because,
as much as I believe the Reds are in for some regression, and the Cardinals should be in for a positive bump, I look at this team and I still see a gaping hole of suck in the middle infield, a rotation with Chris Carpenter in his mid-30s and Jaime Garcia coming off an enormous innings jump, and an aging Lance Berkman playing in the outfield every day. If things go right for this team they should be quite good, but there’s a whoooollllle lot of pitfalls out there that could take them down, I believe.
Also, I’m just discouraged at the moment by the direction (or lack thereof), that I see things going, so there’s a bit of negativity running through my current team coverage.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Maybe I'm wrong.....
But I don’t see Berkman playing everyday. We have both Jay and Craig, and who knows what other AAA flavor of the year, that will be able to start some games in order to keep him healthy.
I would hope they didn't shell out $8M for a part time player.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
Hell of a bench!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
There is a lot of wiggle room
Between every day player, and part time player.
And in the games he starts, he’ll likely be a canidate for a defensive replacement late in games, saving him “some” innings of wear and tear.
Except I'm not the one that said he was a part-timer.
You were. I hope he starts 150 games.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
I do to.....
it means he is SUPER healthy, and hitting the ball really well.
Only problem with that is, we only had two players that even played in 150+ games last year, let alone started that many.
Given Berkman’s age, I just don’t see that possible. He’ll need a little time off. I’d be ecstatic with 125 starts, and probably pretty happy with 110-115.
He played in 122 games last year when he was injured, traded, and underperforming,
so I’d say 125 games/500 PAs is the bare minimum of what I’ll be satisfied with.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
Doesn't really matter-
I’m more interested in the 500 PA.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
he's only 34. i mean, that's not THAT old, is it?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Damn right it's not.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
In human years? No.
In athlete years? Maybe.
In knee surgery years? Yes.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Don't forget left fielder years.
(Excluding Reggie Sanders.)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Excuse me.
I forgot he’s playing right field.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I miss Reggie Sanders.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Nobody struck out with as much enthusiasm as Reggie did.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
how quickly you forget Glaus's epic Fbomb laden K's
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I miss Santa
I’m sure Theriot will bring the suck and thus many Fbomb laden K’s
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 15, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
But that will be by the fans.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
His weren't as much fun to watch though.
Reggie always looked like he was about to come out of his shoes.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
My personal favorite
Swing and miss K of all time:
Juan Encarnacion. In Wiffleball when I’d miss, I was always him.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 15, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
Those were funny. You could hear them on the radio
same with Edmonds popups!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
damn
I think I might be older than Lance Berkman
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
He's younger than Scott Rolen,
who looked broke for a while and then dropped 5 WAR on all your asses.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
He could be replaced in the late innings, yes.
However, how many times do you think he’ll be taken out if there’s a chance his last at-bat could affect the outcome of the game? Sure, it it’s out of reach one way or the other he’ll come out, but in close games? Hard to pull a guy with his track record when you know the game could come down to one pitch in the top of the eighth.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
maybe holliday and berkman could switch spots in late innings.
that would be pretty funny. how often does that happen?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Ooh, we could just do the whole season as sort of a
Mad Hatter’s Tea Party sort of arrangement, no? It would certainly fit with the image our manager cuts.
Before every inning when the fielders take the field he could just head out to the diamond and yell, “Change places!!!” Colby Rasmus shortstop for the win.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
the sad part is i have more faith in colby rasmus shortstop
than ryan theriot shortstop
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
*colby rasmus' bat at SS = Drool
Your team is incompetently run by baseball equivalent of the captain from the Caine Mutiny -DiscoJer
I remember going to a 20-some odd inning game back with my little league team in the 80's.
I think it was Tom Brunansky and, by virtue of the late innings, Jose DeLeon in the two corner OF spots. They switched positions BATTER BY BATTER, in what I guess was an attempt to account for the LH or RH-ness of particular batters.
Pray that TLR never, ever sees footage of that game.
You should read the Fungoes post on this.
It advocated treating Berkman similarly to the way the Yankees shifted Ruth.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Braintwin.
19 innings.
Oquendo pitches the last 4 innings.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
If I count correctly, 11 switches of DeLeon and Brunansky.
I remember watching that game on TBS. They loved the switches and applauded DeLeon’s one putout.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
I miss that positive imagination.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 15, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
Also note...
Ron Gant at 2B
Simba as a PH
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
Cris Carpenter
has been around a long time. Is he really only 35? I think we should check into his age.
by WizardofOz1982 on Dec 16, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree.
The Cardinals did not spend eight million dollars on a bench player. I’m not saying they don’t have enough depth to give him time off, I’m just not confident in our manager’s ability to not put a guy he loves so very, very much in the lineup each and every day.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Re: our manager’s ability...
See also: Yadier Molina 2010
See also: Skip Schumaker 2011 (ie if he could see past his ego, he would have kept Boog if only for competition.)
Very much my point.
The Molina point is especially well-made. We’ve seen Yadi play an absolutely absurd number of games several years in a row, despite a push each offseason to find a better backup, simply because TLR can’t help but put his favourite guys out there.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
and the clearly injured chris duncan
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
I didnt get that either
itsnot like LaRue was HORRIBLE or anything
by jealousblues on Dec 16, 2010 1:57 AM EST up reply actions
I sort of get a gut feeling that Berkman starts somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 games in right.
Finishes maybe 85-90 of them there. Becomes the primary weapon of the bench on the days he doesn’t start. Something like 450-500 PAs.
But that just a sense I get.
Berkman for 75 games
I hope Craig knocks Berkman out of the starting job with his hitting. Nothing against Lance, but I think Craig can do it. Berkman as DH against the AL and PH on a nightly basis would not be a bad deal.
by Remember Kenny B on Dec 15, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
no chance in hell that happens
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be surprised if that happened.
Tony prefers veterans.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 15, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
I dont think there is any chance that happens
I just dont think Craig is good enough
but what the hell
I HOPE he does
That would be fantastic
by jealousblues on Dec 16, 2010 1:58 AM EST up reply actions
somewhat agreed
I like how our starters (positional and pitching) look on paper, but we are once again sorely lacking in depth. if anyone gets hurt, we are in big trouble, again.
this is exactly how I feel
I’ll probably read a statement like the one I am about ready to make, a bit on down in the comments, but here goes:
I am actually to the point where I hope this team does not sign Albert Pujols to an extension. One year ago I would have never made this kind of comment, but I really do believe it is in the best interest of the team going forward. So I hope they don’t sign APu, the team gets off to a hot start, and they ride Albert’s greatest season into a World Series Championship. Or if they fade like usual, I hope they trade him for at least one great prospect, and at least a couple really good ones.
I think if Albert is traded, this will be Tony’s last season with the team, and if he is gone, this organisation might have a sense of direction that they can stick to.
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
whoa whoa whoa whoa, step back bro
Albert & his contract are not the problem. TLR’s assbackwards ways & Dewitt letting him do almost whatever he wants are the problem.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa
Lois, this is not my batman glass
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 15, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
tlr is the problem...now
i think albert’s contract will be the problem…later
i need to start drinking…now
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
it will only be a problem if DeWitt makes it one
i’ve said all along, they should have two totally separate payrolls. one for Albert, and one for the rest of the team. they can afford it, it’s just a matter of them wanting to afford it.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
there's still the wildcard of payroll though
I don’t think we can have a $100 million payroll, sign Albert, and not significantly endanger the long-term prospects of this team
Bump payroll to 110-120, though, and maybe we can. So it really all depends on where payroll goes.
Btw, I think you have to lock Albert up. Regardless of how you feel now, you WILL be regretting it when he goes into the Hall of Fame as maybe one of best 5 players ever, and not in a Birds uniform. Maybe we will suck for a few years at the tail end of the contract. Small price to pay imo to be able to tell people that you watched that great of a player 162 times a year.
payroll is practically at 110 now
and i think we’ll have to raise it at least another 10 to accommodate albert. so 120 at a minimum beyond this year
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
yeah, you're right
we will get a little relief in a couple years when we’re off the hook for Lohse (thank god) and Carp, but that will be mitigated a lot by Waino extension (please) and locking up Colby. Garcia and Lynn will hopefully be mainstays in the rotation though, so that will help a lot.
of course if we do extend Waino, you're probably looking
at 60+ for three guys (Waino, Pujols, Holliday)
that's something i will worry about in 2013
god Mo what a great fucking extension…
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
the will not invoke carp'soption
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Hey, RB good to have you back . . .
I share your tepid enthusiasm for the Cards’ outlook. Each of the starting pitchers has had significant injury down time in his career. Unrealistic not to expect DL for one if not several of them this year. Then it’s PJ to the unrescue and whatever Maroth-like creature Mo can scrape off the bottom of someone’s cleats.
At third it’s injured and brittle, at short it’s someone who should play second, at second it’s an outfielder who should not play at all, at first it’s the Mang and his uncontract. In center it’s someone who has at least twice wanted a trade and somewhere else it’s the Puma at dusk. Does not fill me with hope other than to hope that I am wrong. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I'm part excited for next year and partly going WTF is going on
more of the latter after the boog trade. I must say though, that a lineup with Pujols, Holliday, and Berkman is potentially extremely ridiculous.
but there are tons of question marks about the team yet again. I could see the bullpen going either way (although I think it will actually be a strength as long as Franklin remains effective). The starting pitching is formidable, but this is the era of the pitcher to some extent; and you have a lot of teams with formidable pitching staffs these days. as for the hitting, if it’s not better next year we will be screwed, since we downgraded so much on defense. this could be alleviated by giving schumaker a short leash. perhaps t. greene would be a better option.
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
worry worry worry
because birds only really have 4 “regular, everyday players”
apu, yadi, holly, and clobby
everyone else has significant risk and/or known flaws
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Yadi will have his playing time cut
unless they are just going to overuse him/early retirement
you’re right, though, there are a lot of ?’s
Freese?
Berkman?
Skip?
SS will be about the same production
and of course, pitching… 30% chance you’ll lose some playing time from any pitcher.
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
this is true
but we have four really fucking good everyday players to go with a really fucking good pitching rotation
and of the question marks, only Skip is truly a unmitigated disaster I’d say…
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
So much depends on Freese's ankles of ice. Team will be in trouble if it trots out the tired trio of Floppy, Miles and Happy Peter or some replacements who are just as sorry. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I'd like to see Sanchez get a shot in ST.
Salas should be in, no matter what.
The bench is a little tougher, but I think some combination of Craig/Tyler Greene/Descalso should be able to handle it just fine. I would not go out and sign some shitty veteran to fill in. However, I would be willing to bet that’s what happens.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
is life worth it anymore?
Boog is gone. Pujols reportedly wants A-rod money. The phillies are going to win 115 games at least. Skip is our second basemen. Berkman is our right fielder. I’m sad. What’s the point anymore?
by rumors on Dec 15, 2010 2:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
It is not.
I have no comfort for you.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Ah, Christmas
As we all know, Christmas is that mystical time of year when the ghost of Jesus rises from the grave to feast on the flesh of the living! So we all sing Christmas Carols to lull him back to sleep.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 15, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
and here i just thought it was the time of year
you have to buy a bunch of shit for people you don’t care about
and you get a lot of socks
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
i thought it was a time of year where you're forced to like all the people you hate every other day of the year
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
No offense meant in return
But I find this comment extremely distasteful.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 16, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
I think the Phillies' 2011 could look somewhat similar to the Cardinals' 2010.
Consistently excellent pitching, but the lineup betrays them. I guess the Phils do have that one extra ace, but I suspect Oswalt may miss some time.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
except I think the Phillies
will figure out what to do if this happens, and actually make trades to improve their offense. You know, instead of acquiring a Feliz or a Miles.
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
How dare you
Sully the name of the little engine that could!
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 15, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Randy Winn would look great coming off the Phils' bench in the 8th with the game on the line. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
and playing RF
with his back literally against the fence.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
just to make sure any deep flies
that come up short get a chance to make it over anyway
Kyle Lohse has a No-Trade Clause.
stop watching the cardinals
why would you follow something that makes you so unhappy? that goes for the majority of VEB right now
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
The same reason most fans follow teams...
they just do. About the only memory I have of my grandfather is listening to Cardinals games together on KMOX.
Do you throw away those memories just because your team is incompetently run by baseball equivalent of the captain from the Caine Mutiny?
I hate to say it, but it’s getting close. Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside.
(Seriously, can a freaking umpire just make him stay in the damn box? There’s nothing that says you have to give him a time out just so he can fiddle with his gloves)
by DiscoJer on Dec 15, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Can I get an "Amen"?
All that fiddling didn’t help him much, so get in there and hit already. If the gloves com lose and you haven’t even moved the bat then get another brand.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 15, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
i really need to make that my signature
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
i liked the old one better
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
i knew you would
don’t worry, i’m working on the pyre as we speak
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
i got a lighter
or a flamethrower
whatever
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
i thought you were going to use "your team is incompetently run by the captain from the Caine Mutiny"
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
i would have
but i usually wanna jump in the screen and kill skip when he does the batting glove nonsense
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
you're throwing away memories
by not continuing to watch the cardinals?
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
who says he wants a-rod money?
he’s worth more than a-rod money
but i sure do hope he wants to stay in st louis as badly as cliff lee wanted to go tho philly
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
Enjoy life - you're a cardinals fan
you could be a fan of a team like the pirates or orioles who consistenly suck but instead you are a fan of a team that has won 6 division titles in 10 years, won the pennant twice, and made the World Series once
not to mention we are going into the year with a potential 90 win team (and that one of your points hasn’t happened and was speculation and the other is actually a good thing)
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
Can I guess?
Cause at first glance it’s a line from Wilco’s “Theologians”.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
And I'm two seconds too slow.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
I've never even heard of this band.
Good?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Eh.
The song I listed is easily their best, I think. The rest of their output has been very uneven, and a little disappointing, to be honest. Still, worth a listen, y’know?
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
It's a Wilco reference.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
You're in charge of the P-D sports department for one day.
What changes do you make?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Remember the end of Shawshank Redemption?
That’s me and Goold.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
I'm Andy.
I’ll crawl through the river of shit. Goold can join me whenever the P-D finally lets him out.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
send Burwell back to New York...
…or wherever he is from.
I think he's from Washington area originally.
I won’t swear to it, though.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Fine,
send him back to the Beltway then.
he was definitely here (in DC) before he went to St. Louis
they used to have him on the Sports Reporters afternoon radio show every couple of weeks. He was gawdawful in that capacity too. I would literally cringe and/or change the station when he would start one of his rants.
youneverknow
Send Burwell to a race-relations workers' camp for re-education
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
by akaitori on Dec 15, 2010 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I thank you even in BB probably does not. . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
i don't think so
yadi is due to get hurt for a significant period of time. if that happens, i’m not comfortable handing the majority of the catching duty to him. if we were certain he were only going to be the backup all season, i’d be fine with it
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
Where do you fall in the Mo vs TLR roster culpability argument?
Yes, we can’t know everything, but this roster just seems to have TLR’s fingerprints all over it. Also, perhaps I am in denial about how dumb Mo is since I find him so likable.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
I think John Mozeliak has one of the toughest jobs in baseball.
The problem is this: ownership has made it clear La Russa stays as long as he wants. Ergo, there’s absolutely nothing you can do to him. Trying to force moves on Tony he doesn’t like only results in a pissing match the GM can’t possibly win. I hate hate hate lots of the moves Mozeliak has made, but I also feel (just from personal experience observing and interacting with him), that he’s working with at least one hand tied behind his back in terms of trying to shape a roster.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is the impression that I get as well.
I was initially going to ask for your opinion on the reasons behind the hate for Brendan Ryan and the love for Skip Schumaker, but we all know the reason is, because TLR.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
The Bosstones smile down on you
I never had to knock on wood
But I know someone who has
Which makes me wonder if I could
It makes me wonder if I…
They played at a pointfest that I attended a few years ago.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
And because Skip fucking sucks
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
I mean
He kind of does. Or at least did a lot, last year
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Skip and Boog are held to different standards, I see.
Skip has a bad season and he sucks. Boog has a bad (worse, actually) season, and everyone makes excuses: he was rehabbing his wrist, Big Mac ruined his swing, Boog’s ADHD meds weren’t working, TLR’s hates affliction T-shirts, whatever.
Seriously, they are both poor options, but one is loved and one is hated.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 15, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Boog was better than Skip last year
Boog was far better than Skip in 09. Boog is a better player than Skip.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
Boog had a higher WAR and is cheaper
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
to me though; all these things don't matter in the same way that boog's bad offense doesn't matter
to some people. I like watching Skippy play. Simple as that.
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
Well sure. I'll never knock anybody for subjectively liking a player
But objectively, Boog is the better player
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
First off
Boog is better than Skip, so justifiably he should be liked more.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
That's not true. Cardinals Nation has repeatedly shown that they grow fond of bad players who try hard
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
True dat.
I was reading Lookout Landing’s story about Ryan’s bat not being anything special.. or indeed anything at all. It can be hard to appreciate a good defensive, even when you know that empirically he IS a good player overall, when his bat is so woeful.
Also, watching Skip hit 34 doubles in 2009 was fun.
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
I don't think Ryan is getting
a fair shake yet offensively here. Most of the -Ryan seems to be because his bat sucked this year.
What about last year…the only other year here that’s close to being comparable? He was better than suck and everybody was thinking he’s a keeper. Nobody was complaining about his stick.
This year he and Shu both sucked with the stick and Ryan is now a bum? Ryan was worth more in the field than Ship and Vise versa at the plate. But Ryan was MUCH better in the field than Skip. So Ryan’s a bum?
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 15, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
Minor league numbers seem to show
that 2009 was a fluke. Also, i’ve got nothing against Ryan and i think he should have been kept around i just like Skippy, which puts me at odds with a lot of VEBers
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
I like Skip too.
I think Skip might be a little better than what we saw this year, Just like Boog. But I don’t think he’s the 2nd baseman we need. He might have more value as a bench player…but not much more.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 15, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
Minor league numbers seem to show
that 2009 was a fluke. Also, i’ve got nothing against Ryan and i think he should have been kept around i just like Skippy, which puts me at odds with a lot of VEBers
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
Major league seem to show
that a .250 season is in him.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 15, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
A fluke doesn't mean what you think it means
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure that Miles
actually tried hard, but he sucked and most folks here don’t like him.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 15, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
Relevent post
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/hustle-is-a-skill-some-ancient-notes-on-baseball/
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
He didn't stick out as much as he does now.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 15, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
i liked him before i got on this site
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
i feel betrayed
it’s like when that guy who was always nice to you is actually a pedophile and rapes you….
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
I liked him before I saw his face
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
I liked him a lot when he was with the Cubs.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 15, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
i thought he was a good hitter in 2008
but i was kind of passive in my following of baseball until ’09
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 16, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Larue yes, but I think less so with Miles and Winn. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
let me guess, you think Skip is more attractive than Boog
because watching Skip fail over and over again in infield doesn’t exactly make me like watching him play
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
watching Boog nearly fall down as he swung at outside sliders
didn’t exactly make watching him fun either.
(Now the transcendent defense DID make him fun to watch)
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
he's actually said he doesn't know what everybody sees in skip
it’s more because of he’s why he became a Cardinal fan in the first place thing I think
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
I'd say braintwin
except that your post was almost 2 hours older than mine.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 15, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Is this because you think
Boog is sorta funny-looking, and Skip is smokin’ hot?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 15, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Don't mention WAR to him
He’ll use the margin of error in defensive stats to completely dismiss your argument.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
actually there was only 0.5 bWAR between them
[/nitpicking]
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
i'm not a big fan of using total zone for valuing defense in the modern day.
its fine for historical purposes but I much prefer UZR and +/- nowadays.
Fire John Mozeliak
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Boog makes plays that Skippy can only dream about. Skip plays defense like he’s got a dogsled tied to his ass. That is the difference.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
bottom line, he shouldn't be in the infield
and we are paying him 6!! (six) league minimum salaries to be barely replacement level
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
I was referring to..
aah nevermind
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
franklin is smiling somewhere
knowing the veb heat is not going to be on him this year
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
by d-dee on Dec 15, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I would really like to see La Russa gone,
and Mozeliak with two years to put together a team without the manager hanging over decisions. Maybe the team looks the same, at which point I’m very, very sad, but I would be verrry interested to see if that’s the case.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
I like the Berkman move.
One of the most underrated ways to build a roster with a big star in his prime is to buy low on cheap ex-stars who are definitely not going to be in your 5 year plan but are really good bets in the short run.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
I do too, actually.
That doesn’t mean it doesn’t scare the hell out of me as well, but the thought of what a rebounding Berkman could offer to this lineup is enough to make this old baron giddy.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Berkman may be my favorite
non-Cardinal (well, now ex-non-Cardinal).
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 15, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
He did great things for me in a FB league a few years ago while he was still an OF and an MVP contender.
He and Roy O were guys I really liked from the Houston teams we clashed with in the early aughts.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
Works sometimes - Roger Maris, Ceasar Cedeno, Will Clark, sort of with Larry Walker
but I think that works best if the team has tremendous minor league players developing . . . I don’t see that with the Cards. . . They seem content to rotate once-upon-a-time lions inside spinning wheels more or less configured to accommodate their gerbil size. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
finish first
I think the cards will be in play for the title in the long run if people are healthy, the phillies have a problem with staying healthy throu out the year … to many freezes on their team…. interesting article on yahoo regarding the phillies and pitching…. pitching depends on being healthy also …. need carp and garcia all year long …. have a happy wednesday
I really can't decide.
I kind of feel like Albert is going to want that mega-contract commensurate with his status as the best in the game, in which case the Cardinals really can’t afford to sign him. At the moment, on the 15th of December, I’m going to say no, they don’t. I reserve the right to change my mind for absolutely no reason whatsoever, though.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
follow up:
if AP really does want that mega-contract, would it be worth it to give him the total amount he wants (say $280 mm) over a longer time (say ten years), or better to give him the same total amount over less years (something like 280/8)? on the one hand, you may be paying a lot of money to a player that is too old, but on the other hand, the more money you shell out per year, the more it cripples the team.
i suppose all this is assuming no deferment.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Higher AAV, shorter years.
If you’re going to cripple your franchise, at least cripple it for the shortest amount of time possible. Just my opinion, though.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
but if you're going to pay $280M anyway
You can release him after eight years if he’s no damn good and gain the benefit of having deferred $40M
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
That's not the way deferring salary works
This is not the NFL; you are still on the hook. It’s still a guaranteed contract.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 15, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, but you don't have to pay $40 M of that contract until after the 8 years are up
That makes it deferred.
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
Look
1. You’re willing to pay AP $35M/yr for 8 years.
2. If you write a contract for $28M/yr for 10 years, you bank $7M every year for 8 years, paying AP the rest. At the end of 8 years, you release him and pay him for the next two years out of the $56M you’ve banked
3. Profit! You get to KEEP the accumulated interest.
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
If AP were offered those choices. . .
why would he ever choose 2?
You present an unlikely choice.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 15, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
The question was:
“Would it be worth it to give him the total amount he wants (say $280 mm) over a longer time (say ten years), or better to give him the same total amount over less years (something like 280/8)?” (IHB)
The answer proposed was “Higher AAV, shorter years” so as not to cripple the team at the end of the contract. (RB)
My response was to point out that the longer contract did not cripple the team, but on the contrary benefited it.
So from the team’s point of view (not, as you correctly oberve, AP’s) the longer contract is superior.
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
it's basic time value of money
8 years at 35M/yr is worth $236M in present-year dollars, while 10 years at 28M/yr is worth $227M i present year dollars. Even though they both sum to 280M, the 10 year deal “saves” the team about $9M over the length of the contract.
(at 4 percent interest)
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
inflation, not interest.
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
in terms of cost
it really is interest (or investment income)
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Players have shown that they value stability over the best monetary deal
Why do you think so many contracts are backloaded and deferred?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
yeah
Deferring some money also allows an ego boost from a larger contract face value at the same or lower NPV.
I’m just trying to explain to Southside why deferring money is a good thing, from the club’s perspective.
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
I think the ego thing is important
And I would expect that AP will agree to defer money if the AAV is high enough.
I hope he defers like Arroya did...
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
alright then i stand by my previously unannounced viewpoint that the cardinals should worry more about the total and less about the years.
if what AP wants is a huge TOTAL amount, then they can give him that over the course of more years to ultimately save money for the team.
OTOH, if what AP wants is to be making a ridiculous amount of money PER YEAR, then we are screwed. but if its only that total amount that concerns him, i think we could actually pull that off.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I suspect he probably wants a contract with ARod AAV or slightly more
So one way to get there would be to defer a bunch of money. So in the papers it will be reported that Albert is getting 28 mil per year when in reality he will be getting something like $23 mil plus some payments far off in the future.
Has anyone calculated the attendant rise in ticket prices, parking, food and beverages that a $mega APU signing would bring?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I'm not sure it would him staying would raise attendance
but him leaving could certainly drive attendance down if the massive hole in our offense hearts isn’t filled by another player(s)
Which of these is most likely to be a Cardinal on opening day?
Aaron Miles, David Eckstein, Edgar Renteria.
Miles.
Both Renteria and Eckstein will probably stay where they are, I’ll bet.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
MLB Trade Rumors says Eck's not going back to the Padres.
So the Cards could end up with all three, and have five or six used-up shortstops. Yay!
by Archaeopteryx on Dec 15, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Eeshk.
Please don’t say things like that. I just ate a sandwich.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
you know the kind of thought that grows on a banana tree
a bannable offense, even.
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
dumbest question ever,
cuz we all know it’s aaron miles.
Fire John Mozeliak & Tony LaRussa! (Good luck in Seattle, Boog!)
Is it time to seriously consider trading Carp?
I believe he’s got 10 and 5 rights, if I correctly understand how that works.
Do we pursue it at this year’s trade deadline, if we’re already out of it?
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
I would certainly listen to offers.
There’s been some talk of trying to flip him to the Yankees since they missed out on Lee. I wouldn’t rush to move the guy just to move him, but if Cashman happens to call I wouldn’t hang up. Just make them give you more than they should.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Wainwright vs. Halladay
Carpenter vs. Lee
Garcia vs. Hamels
Westbrook vs. Oswalt
We got this, right???
Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.
Assuming health
any combo of Giants, Phillies, and Cardinals would be an awesome NLCS.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
We do not.
It’s amazing how well the two rotations stack up against each other, but every single one of those the Phillies’ guy is just thiiis much better.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Pujols vs. Howard
Holliday vs. Utley
Rasmus vs. Rollins
Berkman vs. Ibanez
We got this, right???
Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.
Now that one I'll say yes to.
The Utley/Holliday one is the only matchup in favour of the Phightin’s, and looking strictly from an offensive standpoint it’s pretty much a wash. (Taking out the positional aspect.) However, the Phillies’ margin players are significantly stronger. We don’t have a Victorino to add to that list, nor a Domonic Brown. (Who I’m very high on.)
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
what if it's
Pujols vs. Utley
Holliday vs. Howard
Rasmus vs. Rollins
Berkman vs. Ibanez
Kyle Lohse has a No-Trade Clause.
They're so much deeper than us that Rollins is probably their 8th best hitter.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
Wait til you see Rollins in his walk year...
162 games played, 300/360/480.
Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.
and then pujols doesn't sign,
so we use the extra money to pick up rollins to fortify our MIF….
FFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Kyle Lohse has a No-Trade Clause.
Pitching being what it is. . .
chances are that 3 or more of those 8 guys will either be hurt or have off-years.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 15, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
if we are healthy
Its a fair pitching match up. But their offense over powers ours. I don’t want to see them in the playoffs.
by rumors on Dec 15, 2010 2:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Their offense suffered from the same malaise ours did last year.
Their problems were just not as prolonged over the course of the season. In a short series, anybodys’ bats can go dry at the wrong time. I’d think the Cards wouldn’t be automatically counted out of any potential playoff pairing against the Phils.
Let me clarify right now before someone jumps down my throat.
By “suffered the same malaise” I meant their had a stretch where their offense just shut down for a stretch of about 15 games – Hallady lost a few in a row something like 1-0. I’m well aware they scored the second most runs in the NL last season.
Disagree.
Cards are > the Phillies on offense without Werth.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
Pujols vs. Utley
Holliday vs. Howard
Berkman vs. Polanco
Rasmus vs. Victorino
Craig/Freese vs. Ruiz
Yadi vs. Ibanez
Skip vs. Brown
Theriot vs. Rollins
We start out so far ahead but god damn we crash hard.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
Yeah.
That’s not so good, huh?
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Actually not that much of a mismatch
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
They are probably 1-2 WAR better in each spot
Obviously that adds up, but in individual games we’re not to far off.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
Who's going to have the better defense behind them?
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 15, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
yep
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 15, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
I think the pitching matchups are close enough that random variation will have more of an outcome on the game than skill
They’d probably win 55-57 games out of 100 or something like that. Which means in a 7 game series, basically anything could happen
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
You don't need to remind me.
I watched the 2006 NLCS in all its glory.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i wonder if the cardinals get any points for playing in a supposedly weaker division.
and in a pticher’s park, rather than the band box in philly.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
what are you talking about?
everybody i talk to is basically giving them the championship… also i am surprised how well we match up to phillies
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
They're the best bet for the championship, yes
But, c’mon. Let’s be real.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
no, i agree with you
i’m just getting sick of people awarding them the championship already
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
boston has that offense
i’d hand the pennant to the phillies, but not the world series
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 16, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
Pitching Comparison
Of all those I think that Wainwright and Halladay are the only two that match up as even. The Phillies have the edge by just a touch in all the others.
by WizardofOz1982 on Dec 16, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
opening day roster?
Lineup
Theriot SS
Rasmus CF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Berkman RF
Freese 3B
Molina C
Skip 2B
Rotation
Wainwright
Carp
Garcia
Westbrook
Loshe
Bullpen
Boggs
Miller
Salas
McClellan
Motte
Tallet
Franklin
Bench
Greene
Descalso
Jay
Craig
Laird
Is that the 25 guys we can expect to break camp? Did I miss a bullpen guy?
by rumors on Dec 15, 2010 2:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't think Descalso makes the team out of spring training.....
I think we’ll sign either a verteran MI, or a true backup for 3B.
Not technically - you got the 25-man roster count right.
But TLR loves his 13-man pitching staff, so I’d subtract one of Greene or Descalso to allow for an extra bullpen arm.
definitely Descalsco
i don’t know how they would justify cutting Greene over Descalsco…
the guy isn’t that good….
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
No
Theriot
Freese
P-man
Holliday
Berkman (oh god)
Raztafarian
Molina
P
Skipjke
The rotation and bullpen is as you say
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Dec 16, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
What are you going to do about the blight of fake accounts impersonating people's mothers
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Hmm.
I suppose we could institute a ban on all mothers using VEB. That way VEB could just go back to using the mothers. (One in particular, from what I’ve been hearing…)
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
But then how would we see the pictures that MomUp takes of the Cardinals?
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
Ah. This is true.
How about an exemption for legitimate mothers? We’ll just ban the ones whose email address on the account is IPFreely@dong.com.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Wow.
Didn’t realise the site would auto-link that email address.
Everyone should totally email that fake address. It’s going to be great.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
RB... why are you giving out my business email address?
and telling “everone” to email it?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Shhhh.
I’m totally trying to drum up some business for you, dude. You’re going to queer the deal!
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you.
dong.com is not hurting for business, but can always use more.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I know I'm a daily visitor.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Had to try it
I had to try dong.com domain (curiosity killed a cat or something…)
it’s just what I expected…. DOORBELLS for sale!
but the domain IS for sale.
"There's only one way to play baseball, "the Cardinals' way." - George Kissell 1920-2008
Odds of this year's Lohse being back to the point he was before we re-signed him?
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
Decent.
I think he could be okay this season if healthy. Not good enough to mitigate in any way, shape, or form the disaster of his contract, but it might not be another awful year for Lohse.
Don’t hold your breath, though.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
k-lo will dominate 2011
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
Lohse '11 = Pinata '09
hope so anyway
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
i operate under the assumption 2011 lohse will be awesome
until proven otherwise
or i will lose my mind
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
he should be at least a good to very good 5th starter
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
fuck yeah!
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 16, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
I'm going to say Lohse for fewest,
simply because he’s the easy choice. And most starts beyond those five? Wow, that’s a tough one. I don’t believe in Walters, Lynn is right there but not quite ready, Ottavino had his shot and may not get another. Hmm. I’m going to say this is the year we see Kyle McClellan make some starts.
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by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Bold prediction on Lynn
he dominates in AAA in April and early May before being called up to the big club where he acts as a long man in the rotation. By June, he’s splitting starts with Lohse in the back end of the rotation.
Fire John Mozeliak
keeping kmac in the pen f'n dumb
not to mention uneconomic
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
i'd take hudson over westbrook this year
but westbrook will be nice to have around next year, unless carp is extended. i don’t see the option being picked up
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 16, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
i will say garcia.
He didn’t look healthy at the end of the year. He made a huge jump in innings last year. I think tallet gets some starts.
by rumors on Dec 15, 2010 3:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
when would he start?
i don’t know what this guy’s statement is based off of
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
rumors
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i hope im wrong to.
But he is the only guy that’s already going to be in our big league bullpen that has started in the majors recently. And talk was that we were looking for a bullpen/6th starter with experience in both. Though he fits the bill. He wasn’t the guy I wanted.
by rumors on Dec 15, 2010 11:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Who hits the DL first this year?
And what month does it occur?
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
Freese, in March, in the kitchen, with a candlestick.
I think he has a setback in spring and begins the year on the DL.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Will we have gotten a FA backup for 3rd by then?
Or will we be counting on Craig? Or is it dependent upon how Craig performs at 3rd in ST?
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
I think they'll give third an open competition situation.
Remember, we saw Descalso playing over there last season, even though he isn’t well suited for it, and the manager was impressed. Greene can play third, and Craig will obviously get first crack. If there’s a veteran pickup it’ll be more of the MI/utility role, and any significant time at third will probably go to one of the young guys. Hopefully, anyway. I think that would be a really good use of available resources.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
At this point, should we just have young, upcoming guys play at a new position in AAA
to show they’re willing “to do whatever it takes” or “have that hustle and work ethics” or whatever it is that TLR likes?
Possibly.
This organisation seems to value versatility an awful lot (and occasionally to the detriment of stability), so maybe just trying to turn everyone into utility players before they get here is the way to go.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure it's been explained somewhere along the way
but why do you write things with British spellings? Honour, organisation. colour, etc.
To my knowledge you aren’t British.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Just an old habit.
I picked up back when I was much younger and never broke myself of it. I do my level best to use Z’s and kick out all the extra U’s over at the RFT, but plenty still slip through.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
I find your colloquialisms to be very unique too
They are from another era it seems. “Do my level best” or “queer the deal”. Has anyone ever told you that before?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Yes. Many, many times.
I actually used the word pensioner a couple months back. No idea where the hell it came from . It’s like I’m channeling effete dead people.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Between you're archaic idioms and dan
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
SBN
…and dan’s vocabulary we’re bound to become the most literate SBN blog.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I would have to think so.
I’ve only visited a few here and there in passing, but my short-term impression is that the actual writing talent here is better than most others. Always interesting and useful analysis at most of them, but from a strictly literary quality standpoint I think we’ve got it.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
wouldn't surprise me
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
just old british movies in french
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Because thats how those words are spelt.
Duh.
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
spelt
i rest my case
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
obviously you never learnt how to spell properly
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
No, he really likes wheat.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
OT: Opinions on this product?
Looking at getting a laptop for an upcoming work project, mostly because I don’t trust that they’ll get me one that’s good and I don’t want to turn it back in and leave a trace of how much time I spend here during the work day. I like the price point, and won’t need it to be doing any heavy lifting, processor-wise.
Look good, or no?
Yeah, that doesn't look too bad
if it’s going to be used for fairly basic stuff. I’ve never owned a Compaq, so I can’t help you there, but for the money it looks like a pretty decent deal. The hard drive is a little small for my tastes, though. (That’s what she said.)
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by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Compaq is the same build as HP
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Ah.
Well that should be fine then. I’ve had good luck with HP. They have the worse, most oversized bloatware package of any manufacturer, I think, but the units themselves are fairly well-designed.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
If you're just looking for basic computing needs you can probably find an acer aspire for cheaper
Sounds like you’re just looking for a somewhat “disposable” computer to last you a year or maybe two. I’ve had good experience with my aspire, but i know that’s not a popular opinion here.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i'm currently typing on my acer aspire.
it’s going on three years and i’ve had absolutely zero issues.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
wow. do you transport it a lot or just mainly leave it in one place
3 years is the longest i’ve ever heard of one not having problems.
I have had mine for just over a year now.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i mean
i take it to class, study room, library, etc. occasionally (maybe 4-5 times a month), but it does basically stay in one place. i’ve had two chargers break (got stripped, but that was my fault) and i had to replace the keyboard (again, my fault), but seriously nothing other than that.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty mobile with mine. I take it to class almost every day
but I’m very careful with it and hibernate it before every transport unlike noobs who let their HD spin as they throw it in their backpack.
My only “problem” is the speakers freaked out on two separate occasions and wouldn’t stop making this incessant clicking noise, regardless of volume control, unless i shut the machine down.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
yeah...
in all honesty the speakers are kind of a piece of trash anyway. i almost always use headphones or external speakers.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
same
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
but for $220 if the whole thing died tomorrow
i honestly couldn’t really complain
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
mine was a graduation gift
i think it was about $600 in march 2008.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
i got mine from woot
so it was a lot cheaper than the norm for late 2009
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Almost all computer speakers suck.
I admit I’m an horrible snob when it comes to audio anything, but it’s just the nature of laptop design. The Beats Audio units from HP are a little better, but the midrange is still virtually nonexistent. Asus has a new laptop coming out I’m very, very interested to hear, designed by the same guy who does a lot of work for Bang and Olufsen.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
If I may be so frank
they’re pretty awful lap tops. I bought one b/c the price was right and I figured it could handle simple stuff. Twas wrong.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Really?
Wow, that sucks. From the look of it those would seem to be just fine. I would certainly defer to someone with hands-on experience, though.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
What do you mean by "simple stuff"?
I ask only because people use terms in very, very different ways. Anything other than multiple-brower-window net surfing and word processing will probably be EXTREMELY rare activities for this particular computer.
this would be much better
link. Looks like its out of stock right now, but might want to check a few times today to see if any become available
Surfing, all office processes, photoshop, stuff like that
Truthfully, it runs that awful windows OS that made me buy a mac (vista? was that it?) so that may have been the issue. But once I bought the mac, I gave the presario to my wife — who does the least amount of “advanced” computing processes ever — and she can not stand it. In fact, she gets her new thinkpad to replace it later this month (thanks santa! and my work for having a refurbished laptop lottery… only $65!)
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Wow. That's brilliant.
Thinkpads are fantastic.
And yes, Vista was the devil’s own handiwork
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Nice unit.
(Door open)
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
i admire your collective restraint, VEB
Stupid offseason.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Dec 15, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Too easy.
Like someone’s mother.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Dec 15, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey guys
What’s up?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Dec 15, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
GET OUT
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, didn't you see the sock on the door?!?
Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.
Has this ever happened to you?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
With your ... no, I can't further damage your fragile psyche, mysterui.
I do have some concerns about my girlfriend’s kids come wandering in mid-activity, but haven’t walked in or been walked in upon.
Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.
vista on it. And it is one wonky sonofabitch, I need to figure out if it is worth it/possible to put Windows
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
7 on it
and motherfucker! there ya go! screwy laptop!
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
that makes sense
i don’t think most people would put photoshop in “simple processes”
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
horrible horrible processor
low range
you’d be overpaying immensely for what you’re truly getting
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
RB, I noticed your article about Penny wasn't online,
and Mr. Penny directed a few tweets at you. Whats the deal? Did Brad release the hounds on you?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I have no idea.
Honestly, after I wrote that I had only checked Penny’s Twitter account a couple times. Nor was I told anything about the article being removed. Could be, though. Did he take offense at something I wrote or something?
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like its back up.
The link was dead for a couple of days. He wanted you to know he uses a bow, not a rifle.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Ah, I see.
That actually makes me like him a little bit more. I’m not a hunter of any sort, but there’s an elegance to bow-hunting that just doesn’t seem present with the gun. Perhaps a follow-up article is in order.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
And as for broken links,
maybe you haven’t noticed, but we don’t exactly have a world-class website.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
heh...it was just the timing of it.....
went to read the article, and the link was broken, then I found the tweet, and thought that maybe he (or the Cards) got a little pissy with the RFT.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
That's funny.
It wouldn’t be the first time, obviously. (See: our press credentials 2009.)
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
I kept that All Star game instert that got you guys in trouble.
Still have old man hrabosky’s address. Just in… case…
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Hahahaha!
I’ve got a paper bag and a lighter if you’ve got the dog.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Get to work Yadi!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I've got 5 dogs.
If you need…materials…just let me know. I’ve got more than my wife and I can manage.
Awesome.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
and i complain i have to constantly jump over dogs in the house
only got two
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
It's still online.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Seriously?
That’s shocking.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
link to flip book
and the article that explains how they got the addresses, and the link to the city site that they pulled the addresses from, which still worked last time I checked.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Friggin' sweet.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Arigato.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
who you taking going forward?
bradford or manning.
and if you’re not into football: who you taking going forward? holliday or howard.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 3:23 PM EST reply actions
Bradford, based solely on the age.
In fact, I’m not sure there’s a quarterback in the league I would take over Bradford right now, to be honest. His combination of poise, upside, and youth is tough to beat. Get him a more productive receiving corps (a healthy Hoomanawanui would help in that regard, as well as a DX not still in the kid glove phase), and he should be one of the top QBs in the league as early as next year, I would think.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
ryan and flacco are the only ones i would even start to consider.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
True.
Both are strong choices, but I like Bradford’s accuracy deep more than Ryan, and Flacco looks brilliant now but watching him I just get the feeling he’s always going to be prone to bouts of inconsistency.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
QB
It would be a toss up for me between Bradford and Matt Ryan. That’s hard to say as a Sooner fan who knows Sam. Ryan is 2 years older than Bradford (same age as Flacco) but I’d definitely take him over Flacco. I share the opinion that Flacco is going to struggle with inconsistency his whole career.
by WizardofOz1982 on Dec 16, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
And I'll take Holliday.
‘Cause he’s our guy.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
and cause you
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
WTF.
and ‘cause you’re not an idiot.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
That may be the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me.
Thank you. Thank you so, so much.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
(Quiet sounds of weeping)
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
idiot.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Manning please
There is absolutely no Indiana bias in this post whatsoever (I think Peyton has skills that will carry on until he’s Favre’s Age)
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
WOW
really?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
i think he's from indiana
and that Indiana comment was sarcastic….
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Well done.
Nothing against Bradford, he has a bright future, but Peyton is…well…..Peyton.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
oh from a purely future standpoint, I gotta take Bradford
there is absolutely no St. Louis bias in the post… the second part is hard to say considering Peyton has Reggie Wayne and little else to work with
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 16, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
OT: And this is tottally unrelated to any particular VEB-ers upcoming weddings... at all
But is it illegal to gatecrash a wedding? Preferably through the skylight having jumped out of a helicopter.
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
I believe it is.
Just going could be illegal, I suppose, but I can’t imagine it would get you anything but asked to leave. Making a scene, though, well, that’s going to turn out poorly.
Do you have a wedding you need to go all Graduate on coming up?
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
make sure you land in the cake
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
I don't think I've seen you weigh in on the Boog situation much RB
do you think it was:
A) a failure in the org to recognize talent and run prevention (considering the groundball pitching staff I kind of see this as being probably not an option unless they are just dumb)
B) there were some players that have a lot of clout that wanted Brendan gone
C) they have thrown defense out the window and want the most offensive upside possible
D) Larussa requested him off the team
E) he was actually so distracting people were losing their minds, he had to go, no one liked him
F) Theriot will be an upgrade, had to start the riot
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 3:43 PM EST reply actions
I'm going to say
A, B, and D, with a little of C thrown in. Although on A I would argue it was not an organisational failing to recognise the talent, but rather field management’s bias somewhat clouding their perception. So maybe B and D mostly, with A kind of coming as a result rather than a cause, if that makes any sense.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
or
G) they promised Skip that if he converted to second, he would start there for 2 seasons, and they are being hindered by sticking to their word. and they had a perceived need to change the MIF, so they had to do something, but 2B was off limits.
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
He's started for 2 years now, right?
I think it’s the contract, too. Mo would have to admit he blew it. LaRussa would have to admit the position change was a bad idea, too. And, I imagine Skip is a much easier player to work with.
Play ball!
by IL and StL Fan on Dec 15, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
the position change is a bad idea?
you think he’s more valuable as a mediocre defensive outfielder than a below average defensive 2B? to this team?
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
B, D, and
G) Brendan Ryan is really, really bad at hitting a baseball, and is likely to always be really, really bad at hitting a baseball.
If Boog had hit, I dunno, 300/380/410, he would be your 2010 Opening Day SS despite his tics. This isn’t really rocket science.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 15, 2010 3:47 PM EST reply actions
darn it?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
he'd also be just about the best SS in baseball
just a ~340 OBP and he’s extremely valuable.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
how many times do I have to bring up his 2009 LOL
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
how many times do i have to bring up
the rest of his professional baseball “hitting” LOL
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 15, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
well
you mean the other 60%? seems like that is splitting his abilities nearly in half to me
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
It's actually the other 70%. . .
if you just count major league stats, and far more than that if you count his time in AAA (252/303/341 in 479 AAA PAs).
Seriously, if you looked at the stats, you would expect Boog to be far below replacement level with the bat. Granted, 2010 is probably the floor, if just because major league baseball players don’t give such black holes of offense playing time no matter how good their defense.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 15, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
see the "anyways" post below
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
and I am also a southside Cards fan!
woooooo
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
Southsiders represent
(although I am on the Southside of a different city)
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 15, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
ah
southsiiiiiide
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
what would Matt Holliday or Hanley Ramirez's minor league stats tell you about them?
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
Minor League Stats
Holliday is an average at best defensive outfielder with an average bat. Ramirez is destined to be a slap hitting speedster with a great glove. Oh wait…..
by WizardofOz1982 on Dec 16, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
anyways
time will tell. if he hits pretty good in the AL and Theriot sucks at defense, then I can say I was right (although it appears his defense won’t be as valuable, since they are said to be starting him at 2B, WTF). if Theriot makes some amazing plays (although we all know he won’t make nearly as many) while hitting better than Boog, than you can say that you are right. Right now, who knows.
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
so you expect a .790 OPS out of your high defense shortstop
pretty damn high expectations there (which Theriot will not even come close to)
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
what's an AHHPSE?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
of course not
and you’re right, xxx/340/xxxx and he still has value, but I’m not willing to give TLR or the clubhouse that much credit. He’d still probably have gotten run out of twon on a rail.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 15, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
You realize that there is like 6 players in the history of the game who have provided average offense with gold glove defense at short (slight hyperbole)
But seriously, if Boog was an average hitter, he’d be one of the best players in the game.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you!
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 15, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
And if your aunt had. . .
oh, never mind.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 15, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
don't get
But seriously, you’re wrong about Boog. With his career offensive performance he’s roughly an average player overall.
So either the Cardinals kicked him off because they can’t properly evaluate the relative importance of defense and offense. Or Tony doesn’t like him and campaigned to have him off the roster. Take your pick.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
he was going to say
if your aunt had balls, she’d be your uncle, I believe.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
oh, haven't heard that one before
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
nice
I hope I can remember it.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 15, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
poop poop poop poop poop
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Rocket science not needed.
Brendan Ryan is really, really bad at hitting a baseball, and is likely to always be really, really bad at hitting a baseball.
What do you base this on?
If Boog had hit, I dunno, 300/380/410, he would be your 2010 Opening Day SS despite his tics.
He should be the starting SS if he hits .250
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 15, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
If he had a .380 OBP he would be a five WAR player, this is ridiculous
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
I agree again!
Ain’t it grand?
To me it’s like black and white. Boog’s upside is being slightly undervalued, I believe. Maybe this isn’t the right team for him but on my team he starts at ss, especially with the pitching staff we have. Waino came close to winning 2 Cy Young’s with Ryan mostly at SS. He WON despite what Ryan contributed offensively for him. If I’m a pitcher I want Ryan behind me and I’d let the rest of the team know that it’s up to them to score for me. If Ryan just happen to drive in the game winner I’d rib the rest of them.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 15, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
aren't most .380 OBP guys
5 WAR players?
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
No
A .380/.450 player with average defense would be about a 4 WAR player. So actually, if Boog did that he would be like a 6 WAR player.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
only 4 out of the 20 people in the majros
who had OBP of .380 were not 5 WAR players.
If skip had a OBP of 420 i’m sure he’d be a 5-6 WAR guy too.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
I'm just giving you the math
I didn’t say anything about Skip, I was directly responding to the other’s guys response that if Ryan was a .380 wOBA he would be on the team.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
I will not be used for original content
So I let a unicorn pick hard hitting questions for me to ask you.
Who is the team to beat in the NL Central? Did Cincinnati overachieve or should be expect another tight race this season?
Looking over the current 40 man roster and seeing some unfamiliar names could you give us some insight into which minor leaguers should be most impressive this spring?
Considering the way Tyler Greene struggled on defense last season, why do the Cardinals hold him in such high esteem? His offense wasn’t anything to brag about either… though he was slightly better than Ryan in this area.
Are there any prospects in the Cards system who could have immediate and notable impact for next year? Any Jaime Garcias out there?
I still am not sold on having Theriot play SS. Though the “cybermetric” folks say that he plays average defense at SS, his range and arm strength are far below Brendon Ryan’s. It sure doesn’t seem that the team got a fair return for Ryan when they traded him for a high A pitcher who can throw hard but walks almost as many as he strikes out. In your opinion, does this pitcher display real potential as a major league closer in 2 years or did the Cardinals basically unload Ryan for peanuts?!?
In the most recent issue of the Cardinals Gameday magazine, there is a photo of Skip Schumaker talking to a reporter, who I believe is you, and visible on his left bicep is a tattoo of a large shamrock with the name FITZ written on it. Do you know the story of this tattoo?
[Skippy is a very nice looking young man, but give me a man who knows grammar and what to do with a pen and notepad].
And don’t cheat by clicking on the link for the REAL answers, I want yours.
"There are three things the average man thinks he can do better than anybody else: build a fire, run a hotel and manage a baseball team."- Rocky Bridges
by That's a Winner on Dec 15, 2010 3:47 PM EST reply actions
I can respect your stance.
Cardinals are the team to beat right now, I think. Cincy is in for a fair amount of regression, and with just ordinary run distribution (I know, we can argue there were causes all day long, etc., but in a general sense), the Cards should gain a few wins at least with the exact same performance. I would peg the Cards at ~88 wins right now and Cincy at ~85.
I won’t answer the second one because I’m going to do my annual Spring Surprises post sometime in January and don’t want to give away my thoughts now.
Too small a sample size to judge anything on defense yet with Tyler. His scouting reports have always been good, and that’s much more useful when you’re dealing with such a dearth of actual data here. Plus, I feel he pressed, badly, at the major league level; understandable considering he was looking over his shoulder constantly. Also, I would argue that, taking into account how much he’s been shuttled around the past couple seasons, the Cardinals don’t hold him quite so high esteem as the questioner believes.
The impact prospects in 2011 are likely to all be relievers, if anything. Allen Craig could breakout with the bat, but I would put my money on a guy like Eduardo Sanchez having an impact.
One, anyone using the term cybermetric doesn’t deserve to have any questions answered and should be beaten mercilessly. That being said, I think they got as good a return for Ryan as could possibly have been expected given his struggles and the personality conflict between he and certain unnamed entities. Now, whether his value was higher with the Cardinals or in a trade is a different matter altogether, but that’s not what was asked. As for Cleto himself, the stuff is good enough he could certainly make it to the majors and be a useful reliever. Closer? Meh. I don’t know he has the control.
And I don’t know anything about any Fitz tattoos. Good rootbeer, but not good enough to put it on my arm.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
strauss is in rare form today
Contradicts himself repeatedly, attacks STL fans, mocks HPGF, hates on brendan ryan, etc. Oh, and we learn that Colby has asked to be traded, not once, but twice.
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
we've known that.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
the Colby thing
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
when was the other one?
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
2009
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
his dad was also complaining about the Cardinals Organization
Way back in 08. Who knows, maybe even before that. It’s why you can’t take any slap hitting references that seriously.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
I forgot, he does his chats on Wednesdays too, doesn't he?
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
you should require people
to make comments about tidal waves before answering any questions. or at least a surfing reference.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Totally.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
it's catching on
Radical.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Tubular
right?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Not right.
Righteous
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
Wicked.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
i don't think people surf in boston
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Hmm. Interesting.
Actually, perhaps I should come up with my own natural-disaster-related schtick. From now on, everyone must reference mudslides when speaking to me!
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
RB
Long time reader, first time rider of the hershey highway, What role will Tyler Greene play have on the team when they break camp next spring?
Am I doing it right?
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Ooh, the hershey highway! I like that!
Something about that phrase just makes me feel all warm and gooey inside! Kudos!
Also, if anyone else needs any suggestions, I’m thinking Master of the Muddy Movement, Monsieur Mudslide, or the Brown Baron.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Also, Dirt Diggler.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
I figured there'd be a ten year moratorium on "tsunami" references
After one killed A HUNDRED TIMES MORE PEOPLE than the WTC attacks… but, nope, there’s Strausbag. Nothing funny about natural disasters… Well, except The Natural Disasters.
Those guys sure were fat!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
That is odd.
I’ve never made a tidal wave joke and had someone say, “Dude, too soon,” but I’m CONSTANTLY hearing that about my child abduction jokes. It’s a sick world, man.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
post some links or quotes or sth, will ya?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
if anyone were dumb enough to "cheat" off strauss's answers to this or any other test, they deserve to fail.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
this is funny to me
Considering the way Tyler Greene struggled on defense last season, why do the Cardinals hold him in such high esteem?
cause last year suggested the exact opposite… we can’t just assume Greene will take over because the org. has failed to do common sense things in the past
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
You might appreciate this.
I went to a Free Energy show a couple weeks back. It was a lot of fun. But, their lead singer had a 1987 Minnesota Twins t-shirt on. Most of you know that I really, really dislike the Giants and Twins because, as a child, that was the first year my parents allowed me to stay up and watch the playoff games in their entirety. So I start yelling out the names of members of the 1987 Minnesota Twins. Little did I know that the band is actually from Minnesota, so the lead singer joins in, and then says, “But we could do this all night. How about another song?” And they played a song. All in all, one of my better concert interactions with a band mid-show.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Not drunk at all.
But whenever I have a chance to yell out “Kent Hrbeck,” “Tom Brunansky,” et al., I feel I should do so.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
That is rather nice.
You should have demanded they write you a song on the spot about Tom Brunansky to atone for his sins in a Cardinal uni.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
Whoa, two Brunansky mentions in a single daily post.
This is probably the most Brusky’s been mentioned in St. Louis since the mid-90’s.
Nah.
I did a Baseball Card of the Week post on him a couple years ago. His name was in it at least four times, I think. (Putting us one ahead of today’s pace following your third mention of his name. Which I will not speak in order to avoid equaling said total of four.)
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 15, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Ladies and gentlemen,
my time here is up. It was, as always, loads of fun. Have a nice week, and I’ll see you all again next Wednesday.
I will drop back in here later on to read the rest of the comments, so if you have something you didn’t get in while I was here leave it and I’ll try to answer ’em later.
Baron out. (drops microphone)
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
Are you taking a dirt nap?
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
So, I'm supposed to be driving back to Missouri tomorrow
Instead, my subleaser flakes out on me and I’m scrambling. Since I paid December rent already, I’m considering just staying an extra week or two and finding another one
FUCK
Hey VEP you need a place to live for a semester?!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
fuck subleasers.
i’ve heard nightmare story after nightmare story about subleasers.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Can I turn it into a comprehensive pot room?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
I don't care what the fuck you do
I need someone to take over this lease
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
craig's list.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Well, I'm going to
I was just really forward to seeing my fiancee… but instead, I have to stay here an extra week or so and hope somebody’s interested
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
you will find someone in like a day.
i live in phx and my bf got three respondents in less than an hour. but he also had a really nice place. i imagine your place is probably tacky.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
by IHeartBoog on Dec 15, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
insert burnsauce.gif
here.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
so's your face.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
WHY CAN'T I JUST GET SOME SYMPATHY
WHYYYYYYYY
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
WHAT IS THIS PLACE SOME SORT OF BLOG HELL?!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
hey, i gave you very valuable legal advice once
that would have cost you upwards of $200 at market value.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I guess
But I promised you a future job at some point
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
AHA! QUID PRO QUO
One of you is going to jail, or at least Celebrity Apprentice.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
actually, i think you expressly disclaimed any potential job opportunities and told me to talk to my friend who actually works there.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
DENIED
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/8/13/1612798/dave-duncan-the-fascist#44325096
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Yes, that is an excellent article
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
i am sympathetic to your plight
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Dec 15, 2010 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
no
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Dec 15, 2010 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
apparently
i am no longer sympathetic to your plight.
enjoy your extra time in helLA
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Dec 15, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I've always relied on the kindness of scooters
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Here's your sympathy....
You just graduated USC, you’re young and you have the world by the balls. Quit whining, drink a beer and man the fuck up.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yeah, I'm actually fine
I’m going out to dinner with some lady friends in 20 minutes
But uh, drinking is out of the picture too night. I’ve done nothing but drink for the last week and a half
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I WILL BUY YOUR DOMICILE FOR A SHILLING AND THREEPENCE
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Dec 15, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
due to the rising value of the pound v. the dollar, i believe that's not worth like $175,000.
say yes, mysterui!
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
*now
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
I know your tricks
Typos are legally binding!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Aaron Miles will not be the backup MIF, correct?
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z5-P9v3F8w
Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.
I appreciate the Frank Black plug
What do you think of his new album, NonStopErotik? I personally like his earlier solo stuff much better than his new Black Francis stuff. He’s gotten progressively more structured in his songs over the years.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
Damnit I'm too late
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
I hope you have Doolittle by the Pixies.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Of course
The Pixies are probably my favorite band ever.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
Good to hear.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I have no idea who those guys are
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
I'm in class, I listen later
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
I just learned something
The Statler Brothers are much older than I realized.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
I thought it was the Beatles
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
EAGLES?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
My enjoyment of the Pixies was prematurely stunted...
during my angsty preteen years, where I loved Nirvana. When I heard that Kurt Cobain was a huge Pixies fan, I asked my older brother about them. He told me that they were a gay band that only did songs about Lord of the Rings.
I believed him for much too long.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Haha
Sounds more like Led Zeppelin to me.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
Who is on 1st!
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 15, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
This reminded me that I hadn't listened to them in awhile, so I just went through three of their albums
Holy fucking shit.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
yw
Your team is incompetently run by baseball equivalent of the captain from the Caine Mutiny -DiscoJer
Your Time is Gonna Come is such an amazing song
I used to not like it, but holy shit.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
One of my
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
They're so just surreal
Nearly every single one of their songs are interesting. What are you favorite songs by them?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
Well, "Hey" used to be my favorite song of all time
until it got displaced.
But I don’t even know where to start, besides that. “No. 13 Baby” “Elevate Me Later” “Nimrod’s Son”…. I don’t know… is every song a good answer?
Fire John Mozeliak
I suppose
But there are a couple of songs they do that I can just listen to like 10 times in a row: The Happening and Wave of Mutilation (UK Surf version on the complete B-Sides – way better than the original).
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
er, the song is called "Elevate Me"
I always get the name mixed up with “Elevate Me Later” by Pavement.
Fire John Mozeliak
SO, i've just about finished packing up my stuff for the christmas break
feelin melancholy about leavin for 3 weeks, going home is going to be tough. On the plus side i’m going to drink less, eat better and see family and on the down side i’m going to drink less, eat better and see family…
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
OH HEY YOU BRAGGART FUCK
LUCKY YOU GET TO GO HOME BLAH BLAH BLAH
WHILE I HAVE TO STAY HERE AND NOT SEE MY FIANCEE AND GET THIS SUBLEASE SHIT FIGURED OUT
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
YEAH WELL
AT LEAST YOU GET INVITED TO YOUR WEDDING. WHAT ABOUT MY FEELINGS MAN. YOU NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT DID YOU?!?!?
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
but seriously
that sucks, hope you get shit sorted as soon as humanly possible
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
Thanks. It's just that I thought I was graduated and done, y'know?
And now I have be here alone for another week. Roomies are gone, friends are gone
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
enjoy it, that will be your last time to yourself
since you’re getting married and all
make the best of it, but a bottle of something and savor the quiet
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
The thing is, I don't WANT to be by myself anymore
We’ve done long distance for 3.5 years now… that’s half of our relationship
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
you'll come around, don't worry
just out of curiosity, in those 3.5 years, how much time total have you spent together? ballpark..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
i've got the double-edged sword too
on the bright side, i get to go home & see family. bad news – physical therapy for most of break. weeeeee.
Fire John Mozeliak & Tony LaRussa! (Good luck in Seattle, Boog!)
more expensive, less fast
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
come to kirksville and take my last two finals for me, bitch.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
book it.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
I would
but Kirksville looks like the most boring place in the known universe.
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
by Aranathor on Dec 15, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
one of these days
i’ll be able to talk about kirksville without the jokes that precede it.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
Is there something to say about kirksville without &c?
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
i'd never even heard of it until i looked on google maps
does that place even have clubs?
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
clubs and billhooks
all the appurtenances of a revolting peasantry
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
we've got 3-4 bars....
a movie theater, plenty of shops, a ruby tuesday’s, a wal mart, some local restaurants, and all the fast food you could imagine. that’s about it.
oh, and a hyvee.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
but only one catholic one...
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds... fun?
no sorry, not fun, i mean exciting, no wait not that either, thrilling! No, no… wait i’ve got it; dull as pigshit, yeah thats it/
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
asshole.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
why would anyone go to kirksville?
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
hey now
we’ve got TWO pizza huts and TWO mcdonalds.
and we did just get a colton’s steakhouse. anyone been there before? fucking awesome.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
damn it fang
i actually have a soft spot in my heart for kirksville, and you’re making me regret it!
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
why is that?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
i have old friends that used to live there
they GTFO, though
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
Right, i've got to pack up my computer
so i’ll catch you mofo’s later.
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
Late night VEB won't be the same without drunk aranathor.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
phillies already worried about their rotation
still talking to Pedro Martinez about coming back.
I assume they are dep in discussions with Steve Carlton as well to round out a spotty rotation
Just win
god i hate the fucking phillies.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
me too. and when i see another "PH"
used for an “F” i am gonna phucking vomit.
even seeing that makes me mad.
goddamn i hate that so much.
GHOD I HAIGHT THE PHUCKING FILLIES
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Dec 15, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
their fuckin fans won't stop talking about their fuckin rotation either
you got money to spend, we get it, shut the fuck up
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
Ahhhhh I'm not even aware of what I'm putting into this paper it is going to be utter nonsense why the fuckity am I on VEB when my head feels like is being sucked out of itself into an elephant's trunk and
Fire John Mozeliak
LOOK AT ME IM A GODDAMNCAPSLOCKNINJA
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Dec 15, 2010 7:34 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
So does your mother.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Dec 15, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
VEB: VEB loves mysterui's mom, and mysterui's mom loves VEB
Fire John Mozeliak & Tony LaRussa! (Good luck in Seattle, Boog!)
Mysterui's mom is cheating on me?
WITH VEB????
Eh…can’t blame her.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
As you kick out the jams...
YOU BEST DANCE MOTHERFUCKER DANCE!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
what now?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Oh, just the sublease thing
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
woman troubles
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
well his mom certainly seems fine this evening.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Dec 15, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Something you've never had
BECAUSE YOU’VE NEVER KNOWN THE SOFT TOUCH OF A WOMAN HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
cue mysterui's mom....
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
nah, i'm done now
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
nice, my turn!
awwwwwww, damn gdm got ahead of me. good for him.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
you're wrong, even she has standards
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Can anyone tell me what numbers
Berkman and Theriot have selected as Cardinals?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 15, 2010 9:30 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
$8m & $4m
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Dec 15, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Amazingly funny!
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 16, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
This is the first time I've noticed you're signature
You get a rec.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
Your team is incompetently run by baseball equivalent of the captain from the Caine Mutiny -DiscoJer
12 has been tainted.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
these work better if in reply to someone
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, this one works.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
disaronno on the rocks
its better than you would think.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
of course it is
damn newbie drinkers
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
i hope you aren't suggesting that i am a newbie drinker
i’m an old drinker looking for new tricks.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
mysterui's mom?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Dec 15, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
and scoot wins the thread.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
oh no..i'm not getting involved in this.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
i should have remembered that
from the veb after dark
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
by mattyfrommo on Dec 15, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
smirnoff green apple with lime crush right now
nom nom nom
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
hate all of you.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Strong IPA served at 35 degrees.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I think I just poured myself a triple of Maker's
Not sure how that happened.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
when life gives you Makers...
i wonder why the fuck it gave me lemons…
Your team is incompetently run by baseball equivalent of the captain from the Caine Mutiny -DiscoJer
when life hands you lemons
find someone whose life has handed them vodka, and throw a party!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
by IHeartBoog on Dec 15, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
fuck i totally said that wrong
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
when life gives you a party
take it somebody’s pants
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
by mattyfrommo on Dec 15, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
to*
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
by mattyfrommo on Dec 15, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
..
“I believe that if life gives you lemons, you should make lemonade, then, try to find a person whose life has given them vodka, and have a party” – Ron White
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
that's the one.
love me some ron white
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
IHB
your sig reminds me of the move Insignificance.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 15, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
I love the scene where The Ballplayer (Joe Dimaggio)
says to The Professor (Albert Einstein) “Between you and me, let me tell you somethin’. Don’t ever put a woman up on a pedestal. Cuz it’ll just give her a chance to kick your teeth right down your throat.”
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 15, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
i don't know that movie, but it sounds awesome
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
damn, I thought I drank a lot
at VEB though I’m pretty much your average drinker (even though I’m guessing I could probably drink most of the population under the table)
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
I blanked out while pouring.
Longest two count ever. Oh well, party time.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
Also, I literally cut my teeth on Maker's
Doctor’s orders to my mom.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
God I miss the good old days......
a parent does that now, and someone will call CPS on them.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i can drink all day, so long as i have a giant plate of nachos at some point
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
fang 'likes' this comment.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
nachos are my favorite food in the whole world
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
That's sad.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
wat
a good plate of nachos is soooo delicious. but i agree there is a time and place for them.
how about my favorite food under $20 is nachos
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
ok...I can live with that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
yeah cause i just remembered this steak i had at this famous steak house in DC when i was a summer associate and had free range to spend $$
it was a filet with lump crab meat on top and some bernaise sauce…..HFS that was the best meal i ever had.
i also had disaronno on the rocks with dessert.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
ah...steak oscar....
very good.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
you do live in arizona.
and you also haven’t tweeted at all recently. get on that.
and you need to change your name.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
i can't bring myself to change my name.
FUCK I AM PISSED THEY TRADED BOOG
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
by IHeartBoog on Dec 15, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i'm going to remind you every day.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
More Disaronno
Less Rocks
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
once Greene breaks out, you might change your mind
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
go back to facebook.....
also, get off my lawn.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
go buy me a cardinals ticket.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
that's too cold for an IPA!
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
by mattyfrommo on Dec 15, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
I know, I should raise the temp a bit on the 'rator,
but I do like a cold beer.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Absolut Raspberi and a dash of sprite on the rocks
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i was really into raspberry stoli and sprite until i puked from it once.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
thats sucks
Never tried the raspberry stoli, the raspberry smirnoff suuuuucks.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i can imagine
you know what is really good is absolute pear. you can drink that shit straight up.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
absolut is the best $ for $ vodka i think
I was surprised that smirnoff’s rasp is so bad, i think their TD is actually pretty good
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
my holiday party is tomorrow
which hopefully results in bars afterward. I must fast before tomorrow
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
just got a bottle of Absolut Raspberri tonight
it’s even better than i remember
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
so Bubbles said today on the radio the players didn't like Boog because he wasn't serious enough
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
it's a serious clubhouse
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
i think you spelled load of shit wrong
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
but they're really serious
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
i know, and they shouldn't be, it's a load of crap that couldn't make room for Boog
baseball is supposed to be fun, but they want everyone to walk around with the same stick up their asses TLR & Albert have. and that’s bullshit
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
yeah, it would be in their best interest to lighten up and have fun and win at the same time
I don’t think anyone is going to sit there and tell you that the Giants weren’t having fun that season last year, despite all the drama they had. it’s pretty aggravating that everyone has to play ball Tony Larussa’s Way. last time that it was really successful was in 2006, and that team was not exactly a juggernaut.
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 16, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
ya & look at that awesome month of October, who & what led the way?
the young kids having a blast & Wagonmaker’s curve ball no one could hit.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
oh yeah...
well, I’m not sure that tony not liking young players is a totally cut and dry topic. he certainly seems like he prefers veterans, but he’s managed plenty of young players that end up being successful. the problem is he’s getting worse as a manager overall.
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 16, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
no, it's not cut & dry. he likes young guys if they fit his mold.
if they don’t he has no use for them.
you’re right, the older he gets the worse he gets. why DeWitt can’t see that i’ll never understand
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I think his patients
with young players is getting thinner and thinner. I think he wants to go out on a winning season and trusts the veterans more, and it’s less work to manage seasoned veterans.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 16, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
you guys do know
that you don’t actually know brendan ryan and these guys do. isn’t not possible that he really didn’t take his job seriously enough?
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 16, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
is it* not possible
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 16, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
that is very possible, but listen to the interview
Bubbles says he took his job seriously & he tried really hard. it’s just when he goofed off & tried to have fun the no fun police in the clubhouse got all butt hurt over it & they ran him out of town. not TLR or MO. also listen to this one, the host explains he’s been told by the players it wasn’t TLR who got rid of Boog, it was the players. you’ll have to fast forward a few minutes to get the part where he’s talking about what he’s been told.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
what i heard out of lohse
was that he definitely cares, but he was never able to calm down and be serious
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 16, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
at least calm down enough for the stick up their asses no fun police
i get the feeling he was picked on a lot, i could be wrong, but it seems to me like his hyper activeness wasn’t tolerated at all.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I want to see the Ichiro, Milton and Boog show
now that would be a fun sitcom
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 16, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
face it Albert and possibly Yadi wanted him out
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
probably, which sucks they couldn't be better team mates
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
It is conjecture on my part
but I imagine Carp/Waino probably enjoyed his defense enough to not try and get rid of him, and nobody else on the team has been a card long enough to demand anything
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
the Mafia seemed to think he was okay
who knows. the longer it goes on, the more I think this team is obsessed with pecking order. except Carp, even though he’s on top. he only seems to care if someone shows up and works. /conspiracy theory
hah, I just remembered when he pretended to eat a moth. sure seemed like he hated Boog’s guts about then.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'd be really surprised if it wasn't Albert leading the way
and everyone but the pitchers followed him. he may be the GOAT, but he’s got a long way to go towards being a good teammate
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
mmm, I suspect so too.
but I’m not saying anything till there’s a contract. just in case.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
ya, i don't wanna wake up next to a bloody Cardinals head
i should probably keep quiet
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
you'd probably roll over it
they’re not that big
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i still don't want to wake up to one
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
waah waah waaaaah
let’s not read all the publicly available information, then call everyone else biased and delusional. I’ve heard this one before. who’s cooking up a narrative, again?
there’s more info — including piles and piles of direct quotes from multiple sources — from the past two years and change on Ryan than the average player. it probably takes about 20 minutes reading time; the only reason it takes longer is it’s scattered around and archived. it would be nice if someone refuted it with something other than “you’re just making that up, you freaks.”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
who cares what the barber thinks?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
why don't i get this reference?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
ahh, that happened in a game thread, that's why i didn't get it
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
and Ludwick's. and... several other players, IIRC.
amazingly he managed not to develop any injuries from that.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i can't get it to play
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 16, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
that works
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 16, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
also i want to see this movie
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
he's basically just playing Eric
that’s not a bad thing at all though, in fact rather awesome I’d say
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Your team is incompetently run by baseball equivalent of the captain from the Caine Mutiny -DiscoJer
RIP, Rapid Robert.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
Very sad to see him go...
If no one has ever read my sig….let’s just say I’ve worked with him numerous times. Great man who treated a lot of fans right and loved the game of baseball. R.I.P Sir.
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
when & where did you work with him?
that’s funny you should say that he treated fans right. that’s the exact opposite of what i’ve been told by some folks in the media & who used to work for the indians. heck that article said he wasn’t that great to fans. of course it could just be a generation gap thing.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I run autograph sessions for MLB during the All Star Game Fan Fest.
He was always great with the kids and true baseball fans……but whenever a money driven collector would ask him for numerous ones or try to take advantage of him, he’d give him a good piece of his mind.
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
that's awesome
i was told he hated doing singings where people paid for stuff. i guess it makes sense then he got mad at folks there. when i saw him at the Jake once i was going to ask for an autograph, but my buddy who worked for the indians told me not too because i was in my 20’s & he wouldn’t give autographs to guys in their 20’s.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Oh probably did.
But FanFest was more family oriented and not just about autographs. So instead of 100% of the people being collectors it was more 60-70% families, 20% casual fans, and 10% money seekers.
Plus it was the All Star Game FanFest…..it’s basically MLB’s version of a convention/state fair/expo/giant inside game.
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
i got his autograph at Fanfest actually
was literally the last in line
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 16, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
LA or STL?
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
STL
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 16, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
Remember a guy in a blue polo and khaki shorts with a headset on
running the lines?
And this was at the minor league hat stage too wasn’t it….
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
correction: running the stages*
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
oh shit i don't remember sorry
but i was with my friends… we were all in high school and of course my dad made me buy a good ball, but all my friends rushed out and got these crappy balls
bob feller laughed at them… it was great.. ever since we have been treating bob feller like chuck norris
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 16, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
Sounds just like him hahaha.
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
And I remember this...
pissed off everyone else who I didn’t let in. Hahahahaha. They all were watching and where like “Hey! They can get out of line and come back and he’ll wait for them, but I can’t get one?!” Thanks hahaha.
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
VEB LATE NITE RANDOM DISCUSSION
What’s the longest running magazine/periodical subscription you’ve had in your lifetime?? I bet there are some weird mags you people read
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
ESPN: 1 month
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
sports illustrated
my dad has read Time for as long as I can remember though
yeah neither of those are weird sorry man
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
I had SI for a year
also had TENNIS magazine for a couple years though but it was a quarterly
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
sports illustrated.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Esquire for 10 years or so.
Fine Woodworking for about the same.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 15, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
that's the kinda thing i'm looking for
do you have a wood shop?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
motor trend, car & driver for 10 years
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I would expect that
how long did you sell cars?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
only a year, but due to my dad's job i've been around dealers my entire life
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
ah i see
Do you have a make of choice?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
my long time favorite car is a Firebird, of course they don't make them any more
which breaks my heart. i’ve always wanted one & never been able to get one. i cried in 02 when the last one came off the line because i knew my dream of ordering a new one was officially dead. i was always a GM guy because of the Firebird & Corvette. but i’m also partial to Mopar’s because that’s primarily who my dad & grandpa worked for. i love the Dodge Challenger & Charger. i love Cadillac, Audi, Lamborghini, but my favorite company has to be Mercedes-Benz. there is nothing they don’t make & make well. they have daily drivers, SUV’s & muscle cars. and they are all fantastic. they really are the best company right now & have been for a while.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
When I lived in Korea, the car of choice was the "Duke City" a box-like brute that churned up the road and pedestrians with unabashed fury.
Sadly, no more Duke Cities either. . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
never heard of them, but that doesn't surprise me they are gone
there’s a lot of great car’s & companies no longer around. they say it’s progress. i say it’s sadness.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
you fancyspants
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
That'd be a funny novelty account.
by spants on Dec 16, 2010 12:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Do you ever look at the online archive?
It’s pretty cool to see old issues as they looked back then.
by spants on Dec 16, 2010 12:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I haven't, but I'll check them out
My parents have had a subscription my whole life – I used to collect all the covers. I was going to paper a wall with them at some point, but I think they got lost in a move.
Do you know how much current content is online? I’m trying to decide whether to cancel my print subscription.
by peach concrete on Dec 16, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
This is not going to help my straight credibility
but I think it’s been Details magazine. I also get several IEEE magazines, ESPN and I used to get GQ. I think I got Men’s Health at one point too. I like to read on the way to work. I read a lot in general but I like fluff first thing in the morning.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
i got maxim free for three years
i don’t think i ever read one issue all the way through.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
apparantly my friend doesn't want to go to school
IF WE HAVE SKOOL TOMORROW..WEN I FINALLY GET TO SKOOL IM GOING DROP KICK THE SHIT OUTTA MY PRINCIPAL!
also, am i wrong that this is a really good song – link – granted, he’s a friend of mine and I may be biased, but it’s got pretty good lyrics I think
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
Fuuuuck why do I hate everybody younger than me?
What does this mean?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Stop pretending to be Alex
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
it's just how he types
trust me i’m not a fan either… he literally capatilizes every status and talks like this for example… i’ll translate
SKOOL – school
WEN – when
OUTTA – out of
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 16, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You should log off of VEB,
go find this guy, and slap the stupid out of him.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
he could kick my ass though
he is a black football player…
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 16, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sorry for you,
but it must be done.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
two days late, but this should have been green!
Every time Skip adjusts his gloves while batting, I die a little inside. -DJ 12-15-10
You misspelled "apparently."
Now get off my lawn.
by spants on Dec 16, 2010 12:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
veb late night sucks without rui and aranathor
:’(
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I've got a break til i have to turn something in on saturday
and it’s time to relax
I guess I’ll go play catan online against other nerds
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i'm watching man v food & ddd, so i''m only half paying attention
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
It's not late night yet
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
even though it's 11 in STL
but late night doesn’t get going until 1… i know this because that’s when i’m about to go to bed and then i’m sucked in by late night VEB
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Usually by this time Aranathor has stumbled in and is well pissed
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
what is it 7 over there now or somdthing
i guess it caught up to him…
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 16, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Obliteration by Black Flag is a cool song
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 16, 2010 12:08 AM EST reply actions
MLBTR says Cubs are close to a deal with Kerry Wood
that would be weird to see him back as a cub
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
yeah, fo realz
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 16, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Any Christmas music fans?
This Nettwerk Records sampler at Amazon is pretty good.
Both the Sixpence None The Richer tracks are good and I really like fun.’s Believe In Me.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 16, 2010 12:09 AM EST reply actions
This will be a nice change to the stupid rockin around the christmas tree crap
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I saw some vinyl by Peanut Butter Wolf at Reckless Records downtown
it was supposedly a compilation of his record label’s hiphop Christmas songs. didn’t really sound like something I wanted to buy, but he is a very very good DJ so it might be worth checking out. I did get my mom the new Neil Young album from 2010 though. she loves that guy.
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 16, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
YO LET'S GET THIS SHIT KICKED OFF
I literally do not remember 90% of Saturday night. I apparently ate Panda Express at some point, and stole a roll of raffle tickets from the basement of a school building that we broke into
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Weird
That’s exactly what happened to me on Saturday night, except for the breaking into the school part.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Did you apply to USC or UCLA?
Or do you really wanna get out of here?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
No the closest I applied was Oregon
I’m hoping to get into Wash U in St. Louis. I might get in if I play up the baseball writing.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
I think U of O would be more fun for you
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Really?
I would love to live in St. Louis. How far is the university from the the cardinals?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
See that sounds cool
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions
obviously you've never been on the metrolink
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Is it worse than a normal public bus?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions
i wouldn't ride it if they paid me
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i don't think its bad
Your team is incompetently run by baseball equivalent of the captain from the Caine Mutiny -DiscoJer
the only time i was ever going to ride it was in the summer
and as we were getting on in one corner a guy was peeing & in another a guy was puking. this was in the middle of the day in june mind you. i turned around & never looked back.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
ya, but that's disgusting
i’m not the only one who’s seen that stuff on the metorlink either. i don’ t know how people ride it every day
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
well i guess my only response can be:
SSS
Your team is incompetently run by baseball equivalent of the captain from the Caine Mutiny -DiscoJer
yes, yes it was
i’m not a big mass transit guy. i don’t like bus’s & trains so i’m biased against them already. but that just pushed me over the edge. i had never seen anything like that out in the open. sure at frat houses, but never out in public
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
ya i think i'd have been turned away
if i saw all that my first time on it (anywhere, really). but it’s so convenient and beats the hell out of parking downtown
Your team is incompetently run by baseball equivalent of the captain from the Caine Mutiny -DiscoJer
ive ridden the trains in dc, virgina & out west before
so it wasn’t my first time, but it was my first time in the STL. my family & old friends there have had similar experiences riding it & they don’t like them either.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
hmmm
i had never seen anything like that out in the open.
Don’t get out much?
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 16, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
no, no i do not
i’ve lead a very sheltered life
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
crazy talk!
i ride it all the time – love it
by peach concrete on Dec 16, 2010 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
when did you leave nashville?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I'm still in nashville
but I’m from St. Louis and spend most breaks there.
by peach concrete on Dec 16, 2010 1:44 AM EST up reply actions
i knew you were from there, i should have assumed
you go back as often as you could. f’ing GDM
how’s the weather down there tonight? are you getting any snow or is it rain?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
there was some rain earlier
right now it’s just being cold
by peach concrete on Dec 16, 2010 1:48 AM EST up reply actions
reason i ask is i follow some nascar folk on twitters
and they are talking about ice & sleet in nashville & charlotte & the roads being bad earlier
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I haven't left the house in hours, so I couldn't say.
But Nashville drivers are the WORST in snow, so tomorrow morning should be fun.
by peach concrete on Dec 16, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions
y'all don't get a lot of snow down there right?
we’re supposed to get 1-4 inches by noon, which is going to be fun. i hate driving in the snow, even though i’ve done it my entire driving life i still hate it
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
What's wrong with Metrolink?
We take it to games all the time.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 16, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions
the metrolink is awesome.
took it to give or take 10-12 games this summer.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 16, 2010 1:42 AM EST up reply actions
i'm old & don't like people
therefore i don’ t like the trains
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
it is VERY crowded after the game
usually standing in the aisle in my buddy’s shirt.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 16, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions
i remember seeing the lines after games in the 80's
sure i hated waiting an hour to get out of the parking garage, but at least i was in a car & not being crushed by people i didn’t know
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
it's also a long ride back out to the 'burbs
27 minutes from busch to my station, then another 10 minute ride home. it definitely added time to my commute. cardinal games became a 5:30-11:30 type of thing instead of a 6:30-10:30 thing. not that i cared.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 16, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
We usually walk up to the 8th & Pine station
and get on ahead of the crush.
It’s also nice to take a side trip through CityGarden, which is right along the way.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 16, 2010 2:07 AM EST up reply actions
I've done that too
but on at least a couple of occasions, there have been police there keeping folks from going down on the west bound side.
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 16, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Well I take that to school most days, so could care less
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
Isn't any public transpo system better than LA's?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I don't know
The bus is fine. There’s a bike rack, only 10-15 minutes between stops, it goes pretty much everywhere, it doesn’t smell bad if you sit up front.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 1:44 AM EST up reply actions
It took me 1.5 hours to get from USC to the Grove on the buses my freshman year when I didn't have a car
There was also a homeless guy giggling at Hentai next to us
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I went to a school with a huge football program (RIP), and I LOVED the campus culture of it
I feel like Oregon’s the same
I can’t speak positively or negatively about WashU’s culture
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Oregon also has hotter women
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
also
MIZZOU!
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 16, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
My friends going there, are you?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
probably
i still have one more visit to solidify it, but more likely than not i’m going
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 16, 2010 1:35 AM EST up reply actions
Cool
My friend also wants to be a journalism major. He’s a huge Royals fan. You guys will probably be friends.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 1:36 AM EST up reply actions
i had no idea Niagara Falls ran dry
but it did, in the summer 69
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
odd...
that’s when I got my first real six string.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Dec 16, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I got a band, and we tried so fucking hard
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Do you really have a band?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
i want to watch jaime garcia's pitches
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
Holy shit
Check out this Mario Brothers movie trailer
Note: Not an actual movie trailer.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
But seriously. Imagine Michael Bay all up on this shit
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Michael Bay hmmm... is he the guy who made Inception?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
No. He did, like, Transformers
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
lolololololol good one
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
just found out they're making another transformers movie
i haven’t seen the other two, but surely a third is unnecessary
by peach concrete on Dec 16, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
The first one was good in a "Oh I didn't think it was be this entertaining" kind of way
I did not watch the second, but heard there were ethnic robots
I have no desire to see a third. No Megan Fox!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
the second one blows
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 16, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions
just terrible
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
i loved the first, haven't seen the second yet
did you all know they made another Fast & Furious?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i just saw that trailer as well
Also the trailer for Thor, which is hilarious.
by peach concrete on Dec 16, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions
thor? i hadn't heard they were remaking that one
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Thor's hammer makes a cameo at the end of Iron Man 2.
They’re all converging for an Avengers movie.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 16, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
i haven't seen Iron Man 2 either
sometimes i wonder if i’m even really alive
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I just read a Philly fan say this, so it's definitely official or anything but.....
“Lee is being paid $11M this year and then $21.5M then $25M for the last 3 years and the 6th year is rumored to be valued at $27.5 or have a buy out of a guaranteed $12M.”
If anything, shouldn't this be frontloaded? So there's less overlap with Howard's albatross?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
maybe they're really, really stupid?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Well I know the Ibanez contract ends after this year.
And Blanton and Oswalt will be up after 2012, so maybe this is just designed to keep payroll about even. Plus I doubt the front office sees the Howard contract as that burdensome. We’re not that far from the actual signing of it, and I doubt they’ve wisened up.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Dec 16, 2010 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
my semester is 14 hours away from being over with.
i’m a little pumped. in case anyone cared. and i realize you don’t so thanks for reading this.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 16, 2010 1:35 AM EST reply actions
i have one more full today tomorrow
then i get 2 exams, one hour each on Friday (get out of there about 11) and then Monday I come in for one exam and then I’m done
so i’m pumped too
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 16, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions
yay high school!
if i wasn’t done this week i’d be pissed.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 16, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
meh
i’m like the only person who doesn’t have to take a science or history exam (i didn’t either for this year so I’m like fuck it – give me study hall and film appreciation)
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 16, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions
someone tell me if im out of line
Am I wrong to question the Cards philosophy of “competing to win the division”
when its pretty clean year after year we are one of the worst division.
What happened to hoping for excellence?
I know its not my money so its easy to say
but this team doesnt say “we want to be the best team in baseball, we want to win the world series”
its “we want to compete to win the division”
Is it just another version of the “one game at a time cliche?”
LIke thinking about the world series is something you should think of AFTER winning your division first
or do they really think being as good as cinci is all that they need?
I never understood that
like if a business went out and said, we want to be better than average but we arnt going to strive for the best
I dont know if that would cut it
We win the division: We're in the playoffs
Playoffs: Crapshoot
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i'm not sure it means what you think it means
i think this ownership has tried to maintain the air of excellence. but i also think they know because the division sucks & the NL has a whole isn’t as good as the AL they don’t have to try as hard as they once did
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Women of VEB: "Twat" as a euphemism for vagina
Funny or offensive?
…or both?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Hey man this is important stuff
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
What makes it important?
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 16, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
my opinion? either.
It’s never about the word, it’s about how the word is used.
by peach concrete on Dec 16, 2010 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
as prefix for waffle?
Your team is incompetently run by baseball equivalent of the captain from the Caine Mutiny -DiscoJer
yo...
i’ve got two finals tomorrow. i’m not studying. i’m waking up in six hours. i don’t need motivation to study, i need motivation to go to bed.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 16, 2010 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
GO TO SLEEP!
None of that studying is going to pay off if you’re too tired to think. So don’t be a dumbass. Close the browser now and shut down the computer.
Did that help?
by peach concrete on Dec 16, 2010 1:50 AM EST up reply actions
agreed.
i do way better on finals by just getting rest instead of pulling an all-nighter
Your team is incompetently run by baseball equivalent of the captain from the Caine Mutiny -DiscoJer
i've always known that.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 16, 2010 1:55 AM EST up reply actions
ouch.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 16, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions
PC is my motivator
i’m liable at any time to ask her to motivate me.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 16, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions
Anything I can do to help.
And why exactly are you still here? Sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep, young one.
by peach concrete on Dec 16, 2010 1:55 AM EST up reply actions
i'm workin' on it!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 16, 2010 1:57 AM EST up reply actions
Just be confident in the fact that the people who wrote the test are not as smart as you
And that there is an answer to each question. Then go to sleep, wake up tomorrow and have a good breakfast and listen to some music before you take the test.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 1:56 AM EST up reply actions
music is a good recommendation.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 16, 2010 1:58 AM EST up reply actions
okay...
so i used “twat” at one point this semester (as i always had in the appropriate situations) and my roommate’s girlfriend took huge, HUGE offense to it. so i’ve sort of stopped using it since, but still think it’s an acceptable word in the right context.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 16, 2010 1:48 AM EST up reply actions
if the alternative is *unt
then go for twat (see, i’m so conditioned not to use that word that i’m not even sure if VEB would take offense or not!)
Your team is incompetently run by baseball equivalent of the captain from the Caine Mutiny -DiscoJer
I would never use that word
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
"cunt" is a horrible, horrible word.
i will never, ever call anyone that.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 16, 2010 1:55 AM EST up reply actions
OMG
no that’s not the word i was implying! that is a terrible word, why would you ever say such a thing?!? i meant Runt! Runt, fool!
/kidding
Your team is incompetently run by baseball equivalent of the captain from the Caine Mutiny -DiscoJer
You know what's a HORRIBLE word?
Bunt.
Bunts suck.
by peach concrete on Dec 16, 2010 2:00 AM EST up reply actions
o jeez. the worst.
Your team is incompetently run by baseball equivalent of the captain from the Caine Mutiny -DiscoJer
And bunt cake yuuuuuck
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 2:01 AM EST up reply actions
sorry, I don't go to colleg
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 2:03 AM EST up reply actions
but mysterui's mom does
Your team is incompetently run by baseball equivalent of the captain from the Caine Mutiny -DiscoJer
Napoleon Dynamite reference?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
did your mom ever make the chocolate one with pudding in it?
back in the 80’s it seemed like bundt cakes were really popular & when my mom would make a cake she used to make that one. and it was awesome. it’s my second favorite kind of cake
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
us good God fearing baptist weren't allowed to partake in the demon rum
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Poor deprived Baptist
What’s the difference between a Methodist and a Baptist?
A Methodist will say hi to you in the liquor store.
by WizardofOz1982 on Dec 16, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
make sure you always take two baptist with you when you go fishing
if you only take one he’ll drink all you’re beer
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
aaron miles is good at them!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 16, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
then aaron miles is good at things that suck,
and self-defense
Your team is incompetently run by baseball equivalent of the captain from the Caine Mutiny -DiscoJer
aaron miles wants you to stay up and chat online
chris carpenter wants you to go to sleep and ace your finals
who ya gonna choose?
by peach concrete on Dec 16, 2010 2:03 AM EST up reply actions
what does Wagonmaker want? or Albert? or Lego?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
They all want him to sleep.
Even Yadi, who matters most.
by peach concrete on Dec 16, 2010 2:07 AM EST up reply actions
Yadi matters most? does Adam know about this?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I'm pretty sure Adam would agree with me.
He lurves Yadi.
by peach concrete on Dec 16, 2010 2:10 AM EST up reply actions
well sure, everyone lurves Yadi
but i’m not sure he matters more than Adam
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
they say "stop having fun, school is serious."
Your team is incompetently run by baseball equivalent of the captain from the Caine Mutiny -DiscoJer
just like baseball, there is no time for fun in baseball
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
aaaaaaaaaaand goodnight.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 16, 2010 2:08 AM EST up reply actions
apparently
munt actually is bad too
Your team is incompetently run by baseball equivalent of the captain from the Caine Mutiny -DiscoJer
I am sad that Aranathor was not here to chime in on this subthread.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I hate to even enter this conversation...
but why not just use “muff”?
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Dec 16, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
i don't think you're allowed to say that unless you're British
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
idgaf
as far as i’m concerned, anyone can use any language they choose to
if someone calls me a stupid twat i might take little offense to stupid, not the rest
it’s just words
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
I twatted my knee on the table.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
did you all read RB's other column today at the RFT?
like most things RB writes it’s pretty excellent.
i especially like this part
I thought winning would be enticing and exciting, like the small of your first girlfriend’s back. Sure, it’s something so ordinary it shouldn’t make an impact at all, but it’s also different somehow. There’s something impossibly seductive about that smoothness that stays with you forever. I thought building a winner would be a little like that, smooth and delicious and secret and electric.
i’m a huge fan of the small of a woman’s back. big big fan
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
So are you just chilling at your apartment now with absolutely nothing to do for the next two weeks?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 2:43 AM EST up reply actions
I'm only staying one week
…and yes
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
So what are you gonna do?
That honestly sounds like paradise to me. I’m surprised you’re in such a rush to get to your fiancee.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 2:55 AM EST up reply actions
I honestly have no fucking idea
Read a little, hopefully
But I really just want to see her. Maybe I actually, like, like like her, and stuff. This is weird
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Man you're old
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 3:08 AM EST up reply actions
What else can I do?
Literally all my friends are gone
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Do anything that you've really wanted to do, but have always been busy or bothered by people
For me it would be waking up early in the morning, having a nice small breakfast. Then setting up the speakers in my room and spend basically the next 4 hours smoking in my room, doing a little bit every 10 minutes to try to get a perfect high while listening to great music really loudly.
Then when I start to come down, I do some activities that I otherwise would be too lazy to do. Like yoga or art or something. Then when I get bored with that, I would go to the store and get some ingredients to make the perfect burger – make it then watch some Simpsons.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 3:14 AM EST up reply actions
or he could dance, dance like no one is watching
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
oh so he likes Dance, Dance just because he is Azn?
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
no he likes karaoke & is a bad driver because he's asian
he’s also really smart & can turn a watch into a calculator
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
See, I'd rather be banging
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
But you can bang anytime...
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 3:16 AM EST up reply actions
Not for the last 3.5 years I haven't been
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
So what's another couple of days?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 3:17 AM EST up reply actions
write a business plan and a skelleton resume
two business plans even. one for potential investors and the other for social needs/nonprofit/communal purposes
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 16, 2010 3:31 AM EST up reply actions
do we explain it to VEP, or....?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
ya, why would he want to be with a hottie who wants him?
gee, that sure is a head scratcher
damn kids
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
So last night I stayed up all night studying for my final today
My final was at 1pm so I set my alarm for 11:30 just in case I dozed off. I was laying around zing through comments, looked at the clock…11:23. Ok, I’ve got a few minutes before I have to start getting ready to leave.
Next thing I know I wake up and it’s 1pm!
I can’t believe it. I fell asleep with less than 7 minutes before i was supposed to start getting ready and my alarm didn’t go off.
I couldn’t believe it. I was so pissed and in shock really about what was happening.
So the only thing I can think to do is email my prof explaining what happened and beg him to let me take the exam later.
Luckily he’s a really nice guy and let me come in tonight and take my exam with no penalty.
Waking up at 1pm after staying up all night studying was probably the worst feeling I’ve had in my life. Glad it’s over. What a crazy day.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
This is all VEB's fault isn't it
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I'm blaming RB's late thread
if it was up earlier I would have been paying attn more to the frequent comments
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
That happens to me a lot
Of course the consequence of that is that I just show up late to school and no one really cares.
Maybe this was god sending you a sign that you should be out in nature instead of taking finals?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 2:36 AM EST up reply actions
It was probably God telling me i need to sleep when normal people sleep and study in the day time
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
that's the worst thing you've ever done? really?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
not the worst thing i've ever done
the worst feeling i’ve had, like i was eternally and irreparably screwed
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
ohh worst feeling, i read that wrong, my bad
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
that happened to me once
the worst thing was during future finals weeks, i could never sleep well out of fear. terrible nightmares of oversleeping and other similar awful situations.
i’ve had three anxiety attacks in my life. two are finals related.
what a fucked up system
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 16, 2010 3:34 AM EST up reply actions
i used to stress out about finals in high school, i am terrible at taking tests
i can know the material frontwards, backwards & sideways but come time to sit down & take the test i just go blank. i tried everything to fix it, i pulled all nighters, i did meditation, but nothing helped. then my senior year i pulled a all nighter for the winter final & actually fell asleep sitting up at the table. i woke up & said screw it & didn’t study anymore. it was the first time in a long time i got a good grade on a test. from that moment on i didn’t study & got pretty good grades from there on out. if i had figured that out 4 years earlier, i would have gone to college & done something with my life.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i've got a history of those too
luckily haven’t had one in over a year
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Sounds like a prof I had for my Educational Psychology class
Missed the final because of snow and when I went to his office to see about making it up he told he didn’t give it, wasn’t giving it, and because he was retiring and the dean of education had pissed him off we were all getting A’s.
by WizardofOz1982 on Dec 16, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
z
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"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
it's after
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
what?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
after Midnight
JJ Cale song, covered by E. Clapton
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Dec 16, 2010 4:09 AM EST up reply actions
How's the yak business?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
This must be a joke
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2010/12/14/1877361/super-early-team-record-fan-poll#54537894
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
I mean damn
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 2:57 AM EST up reply actions
so I take it they don't eel-bomb?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
actually
after an afternoon of true crime stuff running in the background
what
uh
…what happens when that kind of control freak snaps?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
do they say he's quiet and never bothered anyone?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
And he was surprised at
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Here's referencing me
More examples
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
did he start LL or does he just run it?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Jeff Sullivan is their main author, he's the secondary
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I read their rules Fanpost, a bigger bunch of self important twaddle
I have never seen.
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
Yeah it's pretty incredible
But Jeff Sullivan is such an amazing writer, and a seemingly nice guy, that the blog works well. And Matthew and Graham are really smart.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 3:17 AM EST up reply actions
I know a lot of smart people, some of them are dickheads
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
yeah about the smart thing...
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
by TomCat009 on Dec 16, 2010 3:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I like Jeff a lot
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I think Danup, and Grant from McC are my two SBN
Faves
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
i don't really read any other SBN's anymore
they all pissed me off
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
just read the royals and mariners blogs
Those teams are both terrible and the authors and nice and self depreciating.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 3:23 AM EST up reply actions
i've read a lot of football ones
and a lot of baseball ones, and they all just pissed me off after a while. they weren’t as good as VEB, they didn’t feel like home the way VEB does. so i stopped reading them
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
that makes sense
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 3:40 AM EST up reply actions
yeah
about the home part. the only blogs I really comment that much anymore are on VEB and BtB, because they feel right.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 3:48 AM EST up reply actions
did you clear me crashing in your basement with your folks?
it’s 10 degrees out here dude. i need some sunshine & worm temps. and SoCal girls. don’t forget the SoCal girls
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
well my dads out of town for another week, so I mean you could come over whenever you want
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 3:54 AM EST up reply actions
score, now i just need to get out there
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i hear rui needs a subleaser
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
he lives in a bad part of town though
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Meh. It's okay.
Lot of USC coeds up in here
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i like coeds, i thought USC was in the hood?
like close to compton & the really bad parts of LA?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I mean, it's not REALLY bad
But it’s close to USC, and we have security prowling everywhere within a 10 block radius
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
private security or lapd & chp?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I've come to learn
bad parts of town are only bad to those that don’t live there. And there’s always a neighborhood that’s worse than yours.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
well i've lived in suburbs & low crime
areas my entire life. never really lived in the city. so anything not like that is out of my comfort zone
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i can understand that then
just know it’s really not as bad as they say usually.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
we should have an end of the year vote
maybe SBN will think it’s a nice promotional campaign…. until it’s too late….
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i dig grant's style too
i secretly wish grant would go on mccoven sabbatical and write for VEB
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 16, 2010 3:36 AM EST up reply actions
Danup
posted the charts yesterday of Phillies-Cards attendance, and salary load. Great stuff. The point to me is, can we afford Albert as a StL icon like Stan (what is the value of that), versus several lesser mortals who collectively contribute more (WAR(? This is to me the vexing question crazing me.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Dec 16, 2010 3:10 AM EST up reply actions
at this point, I'm more concerned with the economic health of the city
than the baseball itself. but the outcome will no doubt affect it, though who knows by how much.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i honestly don't think they can afford not to keep him
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
WHY?
I am only thinking Phillies can afford Lee and all the rest annually for about $140m or so, and Cards are about at $105m? How do we keep Albert and the rest of the cast with $105? Or, how do we go Phillie style?
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Dec 16, 2010 3:20 AM EST up reply actions
if the Cards wanted, they could have a $150Mil+ payroll easily
they just don’t want to. and that’s perfectly fine, it’s their money & they can do with it what they will. but yes, i think they should raise the payroll to at least $120
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Really?
But I love the question, how much can we or anyone afford to pay? How do SABR people answer the question? Phillies have trumped everyone in baseball. On what basis did they do it, and how did theyndo it?
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Dec 16, 2010 4:16 AM EST up reply actions
By spending 160 million dollars per year
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 4:19 AM EST up reply actions
So I had a dream the other night
That was so trippy that I’m writing a short story about it.
So the dream starts out with me and a friend breaking into an abandoned church on a beautiful summer afternoon, and have a very nice time. We play some games, he pulls out a bottle of whiskey, we get a little buzzed, chill in the nice summer afternoon having a good time. It gets dark, and we hear sirens – thinking that someone called the cops because we had broken into the church we scram.
Then I wake up from that dream, but I’m still dreaming (inception!). When I wake up from the first dream the entire mood changes. I get a text message from the kid I was with in the church saying “i’m sorry dude, I showed them your picture”. Confused I log onto VEB, and gdm starts yelling at me accusing me of doing all of these incredibly terrible things (think murder and child rape).
The cops come and talk to me later, and they accuse me of all of those same things. They say that I was with my friend in the church for a week and we used it as a veritable torture house, killing and raping and torturing people. I get accosted by some of the victims, and all of that terrible stuff.
So I’m there in my dream thinking that I actually committed all of those crimes, because I had already woken up from my previous dream in that dream. The effect was so powerful that when I woke up for real in a cold sweat, I still believed that I had done all of those terrible things. Then I took a piss and I was fine.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
wow, i wouldn't yell at you for murder, so you can rest easy knowing that
it’d be total hypocrisy on my part if i did. wait,, i mean, err, um,,, you’re still dreaming, you’re still dreaming
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i bet you didn't yell at him
i bet it was in gifs with giant white letters
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Too dark for VEB?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 3:15 AM EST up reply actions
there's a pot joke somewhere, but it's way too late (early) for me to parse it
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
night terrors are nasty business, and easy to blow out of proportion
the worst thing is when you wake up.
still feel the fear from the dream, but also feel like an idiot for not realizing what was happening mid-dream
keep a solid perspective. they happen to everyone, you’ll be fine
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 16, 2010 3:42 AM EST up reply actions
Haha, I'm not worried at all
I thought it was really cool. It was the first really powerful dream I’ve had in awhile.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 3:43 AM EST up reply actions
I had a bad one about my sister dying
I woke up TERRIFIED that it was real
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
That sucks
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 3:49 AM EST up reply actions
i used to have dreams about my dad right after he died where he was
having something really bad happening to him medically & i couldn’t fix it. i didn’t realize when he was alive how scarred i was something would happen to him & i couldn’t help him. those eventually stopped. now if he pops up in my dreams he’s pissed off at me or he’s alive & normal.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
man i'm so glad i haven't had night terrors since i was a kid
during those lovely puberty years i had them a lot. Changing hormones and whatnot i suppose. I would appear to be fully awake but would still be in my dream. My parents would try to calm me down but i was asleep. there was nothing they could do. Anything they said just made things worse. I dont’ miss those at all.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i have intense sinus alleges problems
and they’re very manageable, but the medication gives me the most lucid and believable dreams. powerful dreams are kind of cool, but they’re also kind of a double edged sword. i know michael crichton had intense dream states (the basis of sphere) which he described as crippling
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 16, 2010 4:02 AM EST up reply actions
I really want to read Sphere
I should over the break.
It seems like if you welcome the full potential of your imagination for academic purposes than nothing can scare you, at least that’s my opinion. I’ve always wanted to try and induce a really insane dream state. My thinking is I could stay up for like 30 hour straight, then when I’m dead tired and about to fall asleep I would do some psychedelic drug, play some music on a loop and fall asleep. That would crazy.
What’s the coolest dream you’ve had?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 16, 2010 4:06 AM EST up reply actions
my MIL takes ambien
and has crazy hallucinations. She’s seen 7 foot tall grasshoppers
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I know I'm late to comment on this, but since I got pregnant I've been having very vivid dreams.
Some of them have been night terrors. Josh said I screamed out “MOM!” in my sleep one night.
I’ve had lots of zombie nightmares. In one of them, I was babysitting three little boys who somehow got infected. In another dream I was living with Josh in a big farmhouse in the middle of nowhere. A wave of zombies found us. I scrambled to the third story of the house, and eventually up onto the roof. I was clinging to the weather vane in the noon sun thinking that if the zombies didn’t get me I was surely going to get sun poisoning.
The other night, I had a dream a woman was trying to punch me in the uterus. I found a Jeep and started driving away, but like a bad horror movie, she somehow clung to the Jeep. No matter how crazy I drove, I couldn’t shake her. Finally, I started intentionally hitting things. I ran her head into mailboxes, signposts and walls until it exploded.
GOOD TIMES.
I didn't know you were pregnant.
Congrats.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
neither did I that is so awesome, you are going to be amazed at how awesome the little squib is
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
Pregnant
Awesome. Where do we send the Cardinals bibs?
by WizardofOz1982 on Dec 16, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
night night VEB
catch ya tomorrow for more late night action
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
night night VEB
catch ya tomorrow for more late night action
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

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