Cliff Lee and Gerald Laird
by DanUpBaby on Dec 14, 2010 6:01 AM EST
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PrintThe Philadelphia Phillies are making it increasingly difficult for ostensibly mid-market teams to remain under the radar—at this rate their owners can expect yet another sternly worded e-mail from Bill DeWitt sometime in the next week, titled "RE: Re: Ryan Howard deal." Cliff Lee is the latest example of the Phillies' willingness to go over the top now that they've established their mini-dynasty. Here's a chart, adapted from Cot's Contracts, that will probably piss you off:
The assumption was that the Phillies would have to lower payroll this season, or hold it just about flat, but apparently the thought of being able to get Cliff Lee at an old-hometown-discount price was enough to drive the payroll even higher. (Those payroll jumps, if you're interested, are thanks mostly to imports early on—Jim Thome and Kevin Millwood, then Eric Milton and Billy Wagner to hit that 2004 spike. The payroll drops in 06 and 07 when Thome and Abreu leave, then spikes again when it comes time to pay Pat Burrell, Ryan Howard, Jimmy Rollins, Brad Lidge, etc.)
Here's a related one, for attendance.
The Phillies' situation over the last ten years reminds me of the Cardinals' in the ten years before that. I can't think of a better way to describe what existed at each moment in the team's fanbase than slack. The Cardinals were a subpar team with an indifferent ownership group that responded by refurbishing their ballpark, importing a high-powered manager, and trading for one of the biggest draws in baseball, and have been a perennial NL juggernaut ever since.
The Phillies were a bad team that began developing some good players; they spent a little money ahead of opening a new ballpark and since getting good they've spent a lot more money. Considering the Phillies led the National League in attendance last season I had assumed they were out of slack, but I guess they couldn't pass Lee up.
The Cardinals seem just about slackless, too—since 2000 they've contended almost every year, built a new ballpark, won two pennants, and brought up the best player in baseball, and attendance is a little better than flat (it's tough to compete with 2000, the last season of the everybody-watch-Mark-McGwire era.)
Nevertheless, the Cardinals' payroll is about to make a similarly graph-friendly jump if they do, in fact, sign Albert Pujols. I don't think anybody was prepared for the Phillies to make the leap into the Yankees/Red Sox stratosphere, but if they want to sign Albert Pujols and continue to compete at their accustomed level the Cardinals will necessarily be moving closer to what I thought was the Phillies stratosphere...
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Gerald Laird is a slightly better bet than Jason LaRue, which is good—like LaRue he was once a pretty good offensive catcher and hasn't been in two years, but Laird is four years younger than LaRue was at the time and does a little better on Total Zone's defensive metric. For all their revolutionary talk the Cardinals did change their routine, at least a little; Laird, 31, is their first backup catcher to begin his first season with the club younger than 34 since the great Einar Diaz, who was 32 in 2004.
But Laird's been miserable with the bat for the last two years, and his Bill James projection—.233/.297/.349—puts him about where LaRue was in 2009. Our best hope is that the Cardinals think he's enough of an upgrade that Yadier Molina ends the 2011 season ambulatory; I think Laird's age and the Cardinals' early talk of concentrating on the position is a clear indication that they hope to allow Molina to play less. But really, I would have settled for Bryan Anderson.
(At least Laird's a good clubhouse influence.)
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I am honestly scared of the Phillies' rotation now
Halladay, Lee, Oswalt, Hamels? Holy crap…
I'm not trolling, just being sarcastic.
The Phils have to pray they stay healthy.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
That would be the scary part. 3 of the 4 are on the back-side of 30.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 14, 2010 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
Well, if they play in Philly...
…then there is always the chance they will gain 40 lbs eating cheese steaks and soft pretzels, or get beaten up by Eagles fans, or run over by Rocky on the steps of the Mooseum of Art, or get clobbered by rowing boats on the Schuykill, or get accidentally sat on by Charles Barkley, or hip-checked by the Broad Street Bullies, or have their houses mistaken for a MOVE bunker and burned down. But udderwise, I expect they’ll be healthy…
:=8/
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
Just like every team in baseball. . .
well, maybe it doesn’t really matter for the Pirates or Royals, or other teams whose rotations are much closer to replacement level to start with.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 14, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
All this proves is that Albert Pujols beats everything.
Could Colby Rasmus hit a ball so hard that even he couldn't catch it?
by Cardinals645 on Dec 15, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
nah, we got this...
Waino, Carp, pray for tarp!
by StanTheMan6 on Dec 14, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
nah we got this
Waino, Carp, pray for tarp!
by StanTheMan6 on Dec 14, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
This will not help get Vince a job.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
stupid move signing laird. just stupid.
Fire John Mozeliak & Tony LaRussa! (Good luck in Seattle, Boog!)
SIGN BENGIE MOLINA.
by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 14, 2010 7:30 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
care to expand?
he’s 5 years younger than Bengie, a similarly-well-regarded defender, and his projected offense is only worth a few runs less over the likely 150-odd PAs he’ll be taking as a backup. Bengie was wanting starter money – i.e. $5m+. If we got Laird for <$2m, that leaves us a potential $3-4m difference that we can either allocate to the Pujols mega-deal or use to grab a bullpen guy or a backup 3B-type.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2010 8:01 AM EST up reply actions
mo talked about getting an 'offensive backup catcher'
which laird is not
posted a career low 263/304/567 last year, batted .207 last year and his career BA is .242.
Fire John Mozeliak & Tony LaRussa! (Good luck in Seattle, Boog!)
Sure, but Mo also talked about adding two 15-to-20 HR guys.
Then TLR informed Mo that Skip Schumaker would remain at 2B and we would import Theriot to play SS because they are both gritty.
In all seriousness, Laird is probably the best defensive catcher on the FA market. It fits the TLR/Duncan modus operandi to a “t.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i'm surprised at the moves mo's made this offseason
but many of them have been either strange (berkman, laird, etc.) or disappointing (boog, etc.). i’ve got a feeling this year could be either really good or really bad.
Fire John Mozeliak & Tony LaRussa! (Good luck in Seattle, Boog!)
The real question is...
How will Laird react to a Cueto cleat to the face?
"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.
"You can't hurt steel-
you can only scratch it."
real motivation for these moves
no doubt whatsoever that tlr values doing the “things the right way” over doing things well. he’d be dumping clobby if he could. this is in part because of how he is and in part because he puts no value on the future (ie, he doesn’t really have one). giving boog one more year to establish whether he could hit enough to be the starting ss for several years (at least till koz makes it, or doesn’t) has no bearing on managing a team that goes about their individual business the “right way”. i’m afraid bdw and tlr are both looking at this year as the year because apu will not be back and they know it.
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
there wasn't an "offensive backup catcher"
available except for Zaun and he’s 40. The reality is that it doesn’t really matter b/c they play so infrequently. He could’ve given the job to Anderson but La Russa wasn’t going to allow that so…
or if we wanted to go offense oriented
Steven Hill
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Russell Martin?
It’ll be interesting to see what the Yankees paid for him.
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
Martin is not signing on somewhere to take 150 PA a year
he’ll be a semi-regular catcher in New York. And, it’s New York. Some guys really want to play there.
There is an argument that Martin might be a better player than Yadi anyway (though it’s not one I would subscribe to). Seems a bit of a waste, spending money on two similar catchers.
As he was arb-3 eligible, I’m guessing he’s getting upwards of $5m. Maybe in the $7-10m range?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 16, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
$4M plus up to 1.375M in bonuses
based on “games played at C”, bonuses starting at 30 games.
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
That's thing, this costs the team a million bucks, and there's not even a clear upgrade from Anderson.
Could Colby Rasmus hit a ball so hard that even he couldn't catch it?
by Cardinals645 on Dec 15, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Anderson costs half a million bucks
$500k extra is absolutely nothing to a team with a $100m payroll. If Dave Duncan has a vague feeling that a more experienced, defensively superior catcher (and without some sort of solid evidence you’ll have a hard time convincing me that Laird is not a MUCH better defender than Anderson, although I think Anderson could be a slightly better hitter at this point) is going to benefit the pitching staff, so be it.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 16, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
But He's Not a Moolina...
:=8/
But he’s ok. He’s a veteran back-up catcher, not the sexiest breed of player. I doubt he helps or harms the team much beyond giving Yadi some mooch-needed time off. But it would have been kewler if we’d had an-udder Moolina.
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
i was on the bengie bandwagon
but i can understand that bengie wanted to start.
Fire John Mozeliak & Tony LaRussa! (Good luck in Seattle, Boog!)
by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 14, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
yeah
it’s too bad that after bengie turned the cardinals down that mo’ didn’t select from the glut of remaining backup catchers with lots of pop in their bat
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
100% agree
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions
As long as the Cardinals keep signing the Gerald Laird-types
I think we should expect to see B. Anderson moved soon or at some point in 2011. We have Steven Hill still. I don’t know the general consensus though with his (Hill’s) fielding or what TLR and Co. think of him.
I thought I told you to trim those sideburns!
he's not thought to be an MLB defender
now or in the future
we were musing last night about tony cruz taking the backup C role in 2012 if he has a decent showing in AAA
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Holy fucking shit.
Well, I guess we’re all pretty much playing for 2nd place in the NL now. There is a legitimate argument that Phillies rotation could be the actual, bona-fide best ever, but it’s certainly one of the top 2 or 3 rotations of the last 25 years or so. The Braves in the mid-90s in the only one I can think of that comes anywhere close.
That said, I think we could be the 2nd best in the NL, and our position players are comparable, so perhaps we’re only 5 WAR or so behind the Phils. I just don’t see how, if they keep all four guys fit, anyone is going to beat them in the post-season though. I’d personally say that Halladay and Lee are legitimately the two best pitchers in the game right now.
Still bitching to contact.
Americans:
“Fit” means “healthy” in Britain.
I agree on your assessment of the Phillies rotation. How important is Allen Craig’s development for any NLCS hopes the Cards may harbor? We’ll need a righthanded bat in LF against Lee and Hamels. Oh wait. Nevermind. TLR won’t sit Berkman vs. LHP.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I thought it meant highly attractive
and it meant healthy in American English…
hopefully someone can explain
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
ok, i'm experiencing full sbn fail
Can anyone find the link to the FAWAR front page post? I’m sure I’m Not Doin It Right, but can’t figure out how.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
"Eat Yerself Fitter"!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFCOt6wbm80
:=8D
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
you mean like the Presidential Counsell on Physical Fitness?
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
As for Laird...
so much for the idea of chasing a bat-first backup! As far as I can see DanUp’s right to compare him to LaRue – a once-capable hitter whose bat is now slowing down, but who isn’t going to let anyone down behind the plate. I was a lot more keen on Zaun, though, who I think (despite age and durability issues) has a similarly solid defensive rep and has the advantages of having a lefty swing and a better walkrate.
I wonder if the acquisition of a strong defender who (probably) can’t hit very well behind the dish is another example of the coaching staff (TLR/Duncan) having a more significant influence on the front office than is the case with most teams. Dunc’s gone on record time and again about the value of catcher defense; to be honest, for the most part, I’m inclined to go along with that. He’s had a lot of success with our pitching staff for a long time now, and the difficulty in quantifying catcher defense (and the presumably small difference in value between a .280-290 wOBA guy like Laird and a .300-320 wOBA guy like Zaun for, say, 150 PAs) means I’m probably inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt and give him what he wants.
Still bitching to contact.
as an aside
The Laird signing is reported on wikipedia but nothing on the PD website or fangraphs yet. Anyone got a link to the value? If it’s in the LaRue region (~$1m) I’d say it’s a reasonable acquisition.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2010 7:58 AM EST up reply actions
Matthew Leach tweeted that he is not saying it isn't happening, but that he has no official confirmation.
And, since he writes for stlcardinals.com, I imagine he’d be amongst the first with official confirmation of a FA signing.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
also
laird did just spend 2 years in that giant park in detroit. maybe we can expect somewhere between his decent numbers in tex and his last two years?
Dunno about that
his LD% was down the two years in Detroit, and he doesn’t look to have got absurdly unlucky on his HR/FB rate, except maybe in 2009.
I think his struggles were part ballpark, part decline, but probably mostly BABIP-driven. Even with the low LD rate and terrible footspeed, .258 and .243 BABIPs the last two years look tough. I’d expect a bit of a bounceback because of that, but his career rate is only .286 so he probably won’t exceed a .250 BA or a .300 OBP, which is light-hitting however you frame it.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2010 8:16 AM EST up reply actions
Laird's park-adjusted and batted-ball-adjusted wOBA for '09 and '10
per Statcorner:
.301 (actual .296)
.308 (actual .255)
So, rather than hitting like Brendan Ryan, Laird may bounce back and hit like Ryan Theriot.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
That's fine for a backup catcher, IMO
LaRue, especially last year, was closer to a pitcher, in terms of his hitting. I really can’t imagine there’s too many backup catchers who can do a decent defensive job and wOBA over .300. Most of the guys in MLB who can do that have starting jobs somewhere….
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 16, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
is it ironic?
that our pitching coach, who is a former catcher, places a huge amount of value on catchers defense? While our manager, who was allegedly a scrappy aaron miles type, places too much value on (s)crappyness?
/i’m really asking because VEB has me confused on the proper usage of irony
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
You're stealing my Fanpost-in-the-making thunder.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
ignore my comment
its just a blank space
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
what comment?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
It's no irony because it doesn't concern opposites
It’s actually just predictable.
If Tony loved talented guys who were bad in the clubhouse and Duncan didn’t care at all about catchers, that would be ironic.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I meant "not irony"
though I think technically “no irony” might have worked.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Where can I find a fucking knife, with all these damn spoons in the way???
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 16, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
this move to me
just means Molina is going to get worn down yet again this year
by jealousblues on Dec 14, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
laird caught over 600 innings last year
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
its not that I dont think he CAN do it physically
just he wont be good enough to do it very often
by jealousblues on Dec 14, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
as you said re: Ryan
much as we might all have a soft-spot for him, I’m not sure Anderson has a great deal of value. Laird looks like a sideways step as much as anything, but if catcher defense is as important as Duncan likes to think, I’m not sure it’s a huge loss. I can’t see Anderson being a long-term fit here and I don’t think he’s got much trade value so I wouldn’t lose that much sleep over it. If anything, I think Ryan (who is a proven mlb 1-2 WAR player) was of greater value to the team.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2010 8:19 AM EST up reply actions
Anderson is a perfect match for Yadi
platoon wise and playing time wise. They match up great. Laird is more of the same — old, washed up backup catchers. They’re like barnacles; if you don’t scrape them off, they’ll stick forever.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
gotta feel for him personally
this move was the equivalent of being told, “you’re not good enough,” when signs point to his actually being good enough.
I wonder. . .
how aware of these things guys like Anderson are.
Do you think he’s at home right now, cursing every pitch that he got fooled on last season, and every passed ball, really thinking that he’s “not good enough”?
or
Is he aware enough of the foibles of the Cards’ organization to say, that $ TLR and Dunc, I’m never going to get a chance as long as he/they are around.
I am honestly curious as to how self-aware these guys are.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 14, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, trust me.
They’re definitely aware of it.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 14, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Considering that Mike Matheny is an advocate....
…I seriously doubt that Anderson’s thinking “not good enough”; more like “not good enough yet.” The guy’s going to be 24 this coming season, and there always have been questions about his defense. Matheny’s been working with him since last season, and Anderson got the call-up this past season because of Matheny’s recommendation. But “improved” doesn’t mean “ready for a full-time role”—especially when that role will require getting Molina off the workhorse before he breaks.
Anderson won the job in Memphis this year, got the late season callup, and the Cardinals cut loose Pagnozzi. While it’s apparent the Cardinals don’t feel confident that Anderson can handle a full-time major league role right, it’s also obvious that he’s still in the mix. So, he’s on the Posada developmental track. Given the holes in his game, that’s probably to be expected.
Sometimes, it just a conspiracy theory and overthinking by fans born out of frustration.
In fairness. . .
the Cards’ roster machinations make it more than just a conspiracy theory. That being said, I tend to agree with you. And i think there’s something to be said for preferring veterans over youngsters in part-time roles. I think TLR overplays that hand to an extreme, but it doesn’t mean that the theory doesn’t have some merit.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 14, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
so, why not just keep pags
and save some bucks?
anderson or not, i still don’t get laird
except he is a tlr “used to was good”, so that’s better than “might be good”
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Because Pags was awful
Seriously, Pags would project to be the worst hitter in MLB, several degrees worse than Gerald Laird.
Don’t discount “used to be good”, especially as compared to “never been good, not even in the minors” Juan Uribe used to be good. . . and then he wasn’t. . . and then he was at least serviceable.
Anderson will develop more in AAA then he will getting two starts a month in STL, so from that perspective, it’s the right move (whether or not that’s the motivation), unless you are the only person on earth that believes that Anderson is a finished product,
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 15, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
I had a conversation with a friend the other day...
What if Yadi does get hurt and we haven’t signed a decent catcher? Then we roll with Anderson as our starter and who backs up?
Let’s face it, Yadi’s knees are starting to fall apart and he’s gonna go down to injury eventually, at least for a while.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Now that the Phillie's attendance has picked up
maybe now they at least won’t be recieving revenue sharing money anymore…
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
My favorite quote on the Lee signing
comes from the piece on ESPN.com by Jayson Stark:
“That’s amazing,” said the same official quoted earlier. “This just proves that nobody [in the media, presumably] really knows anything. Everybody figured this guy was going to go where the dough was — and they couldn’t possibly have been more wrong.”
I love how Stark adds “[in the media presumably]”, basically admitting that he and his peers were way out of touch.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 14, 2010 9:21 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
I like Stark
my favorite ESPN guy I think.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
tigers in 3!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
no, that was some guy in usa today.
Fire John Mozeliak & Tony LaRussa! (Good luck in Seattle, Boog!)
I believe that was Bob Nightengale, not Stark.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 14, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
i guess I misremembered
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Lee
The Phillies signing Lee is stunning, in a lot of respects. But one potential aspect I haven’t seen considered is its impact on the Pujols talks. As bad as the effect of the Phillies signing Howard to that huge deal last year and the negative numbers Washington laid out there for another (ex) Phillie were for the Cardinals, the Lee signing is a huge positive. Here is an example of a very Big Time player turning down the money and hooking up with his heart. Lee left anywhere from 35 to 60 million on the table to go where he wanted to be. Assuming Albert wants to be St. Louis, this is an example, and there haven’t been many, that he might take a serious look at.
The MLPA may see it differently, but this looks good to me.
Pujols is Pujols.
His contract and its negotiations are and will be singular.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
As opposed to plural?
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
The definition of "singular,"
according to dicitonary.com, sheds some light on what I meant in my comment.
sin·gu·lar
/ˈsɪŋgyələr/
[sing-gyuh-ler]
–adjective
****
3. being the only one of its kind; distinctive; unique: a singular example.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Actually,
of all the things now found electronically, isn’t the dictionary one of the most obvious to convert? The physical format is cumbersome. The internet version is much easier to use.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i still prefer the phyiscal format of books
But the internet dictionary is an awesome source. Since a lot goes into a dictionary and drive space is cheap.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
VEB
Where typos can get you killed.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
by Evilfrog on Dec 14, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I thought it was where Grammar comes to die?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
lol
if you watch A&E there is a commercial that goes “in this neighborhood, where walking on the wrong side of the street or wearing the wrong color can get you killed…”
“on VEB where using RBI or having an typing error…”
by jealousblues on Dec 14, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
or using the wrong indefinite article!!!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Yeah but you could at least spell it correctly.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
The Ilini suck.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
False.
Except in football. Then it is true.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Except when they play at Wrigley.
They’re like the anti-Cubs at Wrigley.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
No. It is true. If they suck at all, then his statement is true. If you qualify it to make it more specific,
well, really they just suck ENTIRELY! So, no need to qualify.
you can qualify my balls.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Well, their basketball team is
- right now and looks pretty stout and their golf team is one of the best in the country.
Football is getting better, and I have no idea about their baseball team.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Come to Houston for the Texas Bowl
Texas Bowl motto: Plenty of good seats available.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
he would take pujols at $135 Mil over 6 years
I mean, who wouldn’t. $22.5 Mil a year for six years is less than what Howard is getting. And will lock him up with Holliday.
But he would rather we sign pujols to 7 or 8 years.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
wait..
wat?
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
*cackling*
I guess I could live with that, if someone were to twist my arm really, really hard.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 14, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
agreed
I expect him to be in the 25-30MM range. Any discount would be welcomed, but I’m fully in the “Sign Albert at any cost” camp. I would go up to 300/10.
Good job it's not your money....
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 16, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
I am pretty shocked by the Lee signing
I would of thought after they traded him for Halladay he would never come back. Seems like a slap in the face to me.
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 14, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe they gave him enough money to take the sting out of it.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 14, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
I hought they traded him because he wouldnt sign an extention or something
by jealousblues on Dec 14, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Seattle trade
I thought the trade floored Lee because he was expecting to work out an extension, not the other way around.
by WizardofOz1982 on Dec 14, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
its possible
but that was my “vague uninformed from the gut” memory of it
by jealousblues on Dec 14, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
i'm not surprised
lee loved philly and talked about that openly. he mentioned that after he got dealt to seattle. now, their starting rotation is going to be stacked, and they will be a legit threat again (even though they already were)
Fire John Mozeliak & Tony LaRussa! (Good luck in Seattle, Boog!)
by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 14, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
sign pujols already
before we compare every fucking signing to his potential signing
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow late night VEB. Good show
700+ comments?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
gerald freakin' laird!
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Since I didn't read all of that last night, I will assume the glut of comments were due to
Laird’s great personality, his ability to grow a mustache while rotating, and his announced ST video series “Laird and Lard”, cohosted by Lance Berkman.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
Ford, it was all about Ford
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Apologies for insulting Joe Pos...
That obit he wrote for the Cards organization was just silly. Still non-sense spewing jerkwad was too much…
Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.
Yeah, you non-sense spewing jerkwad
Kidding!!!
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Dec 14, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
thinking about baseball right now makes me want to vomit
getting a message by an enthusiastic phillies fan citing their rotation to break the cliff lee news to me doesn’t make this any better..
baseball used to be fun and have mustaches and wick’s and smiles, wtf happened to that??
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
because TLR
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Dec 14, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't worry
The Wick’s couldn’t stay healthy. The mustaches couldn’t hit a beachball.
There will still be smiles. There will always be smiles with Cardinals baseball. Just wait until early April for Waino’s first elaborate handshake, Albert’s first bomb, Lego’s big leg kick, Colby’s dingdangolfirstinterview, Carpenter luggaging an entire team. You’ll smile.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I started a new franchise on MLB The Show yesterday
simulated the 2010 season so I could set the roster for 2011 to be our current one. Instead, La Russa retired after 2010, I hired Oquendo as the manager, signed Rolen to play 3rd (since TLR was gone and the Reds had not extended him in this universe), kept Boog (ditto about TLR), extended Pujols for 5/150, DFAed Skip (the Tigers picked him up), signed Berkman, and traded prospects and Chone Figgens to play 2B.
How come I can figure it out, Mo?!?!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Your universe is pissing me off.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 14, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
wow, this is like therapy
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
fritz for gm!
Fire John Mozeliak & Tony LaRussa! (Good luck in Seattle, Boog!)
by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 14, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
I would consider you for GM
but you haven’t done shit since I voted for you last election…
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
Yeah, I have a Twitter...big whoop...wanna fight about it?
I'M DOING THE PEOPLE'S WORK
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Fritz for GM!
or his non-union Mexican equivalent!
by mattyp on Dec 14, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Pujols for 5/150?
Yes please
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 14, 2010 3:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm Playing RTTS
And the 25 man roster includes TLR favorites:
Aaron Miles
David Eckstein
As well as
Nick Stavi
Adam Kennedy
Russel Branyan
Paul Konerko
Boog
etc.
No Albert Pujols
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 14, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
I started a new franchise on MLB2003 on PS1.
I traded Matty Mo for Berkman and now I am really excited about that trade. I hope Berkman can perform at 2001 levels.
Sadly MLB2003 doesn’t have Yadi, Holliday or Jason Motte.
Mark Twain Said:
“Nothing that grieves us can be called little: by the eternal laws of proportion a child’s loss of a doll and a king’s loss of a crown are events of the same size”.
So its ok to still be bummed about Boog.
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
by The MooCow on Dec 14, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
someone asked me about this yesterday and my heart sank
i don’t think i’ll be ready to talk about this for a long while
what kills me more is that i now know for sure we have morons running this franchise
fuck it, let’s just sell our souls to the gob to win it all this year so larussa can retire
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
I think that's the attitude I'm taking.
Win 130+ regular season games and the WS so Tony can retire “on top,” then pray that something resembling sound reasoning goes into team management and construction decisions going forward.
if that would retire him, i agree to not even celebrate the title or gloat or anything
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
um...
if we win 130+ regular seasons games, I’m going to use sound logic and believe that the FO will use sound reasoning in team management and construction decisions by not changing a signal thing that got them 130+ wins.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
I'm worried more about the TLR retirement part.
If the team sets the record for victories in a single season, I think I’ll give the roster construction a pass for whatever they want to do the next season.
so you're saying we really can't win either way.. bugger
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
I'm saying that if we manage to lose TLR without rancor, bile (public) wailing and gnashing of teeth (played out in the media)
that I’ll be so ecstatic that I likely won’t notice that Miles is somehow back and we’ve extended Westy for 6-128.
if we win 130 games
we win.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
you'll have a lot of fun watching gerald laird hit weak grounders
oh wait…
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions
Cliff Lee just really likes laser pointers...
And watching dumbasses get tased…
'Hold my stones!'
"Ernie Hayes is up there playing with his organ again." - Mike Shannon
thats sooooo summer 2010 moocow
'Hold my stones!'
"Ernie Hayes is up there playing with his organ again." - Mike Shannon
HFS
I thought this was just a speculation post, then I read the comments and realize it actually happened. HFS. I mean seriously, HFS!
Also, on the prospect list danup posted yesterday, Niko Vasquez was #9. Bwahahahaha
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 14, 2010 11:03 AM EST via mobile reply actions
The Phils and Cards seem very similar...
The offenses revolve around two players with everyone else in support. The Phillies offense is more balanced, but their third and fourth best hitters aren’t as good as Rasmus and Berkman. The closers are kind of shaky in their own way. If we had two Wainwrights instead of one the teams would be identical.
Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.
their rotation beats ours.
granted that waino-carp-garcia-westbrook is solid, it doesn’t beat lee-halladay-oswalt-hamels.
Fire John Mozeliak & Tony LaRussa! (Good luck in Seattle, Boog!)
by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 14, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
losing Werth will definitely impact their offense
but all I remember from last year about the Phillies was the constant complaining about their inability to score runs…
Just looked it up, they scored the second most runs in the NL. By the way, the Reds scored the most. No F&%$^g way that happens again.
the reds have pretty much the same team as last year
i don’t think they’ll be as good, but they’ll be a threat for the central again. unfortunately. bitches.
Fire John Mozeliak & Tony LaRussa! (Good luck in Seattle, Boog!)
by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 14, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I was talking about this on Redreporter the other day...
the Reds’ position players led the majors in WAR. You compare their 2010 production with their zips projection and they are looking at massive regression all over the place. Getting a better left fielder has to happen for them.
Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.
You mean this guy can't handle LF?
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Dec 14, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Follow up
The things you do when you’re stuck at home sick. Friggin’ winter.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Dec 14, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
they weren't far from having an .800 team OPS
I haven’t even looked their players’ projections yet, but that just can’t happen again. It better not happen again, at least.
but the same two catchers who posted a .243/.334/.326 in 09
had a .292/.369/.424 for a difference of 1.4 to 5.1 WAR
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
If rasmus can put the 5 WAR that I am cautiously optimistic about
Then the cards are a better offensive team than the phils
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 14, 2010 11:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The Phils aren't that great offensively
especially with Werth gone. Their rotation is…well…you know…
The main advantage that the Phillies had offensively,
when viewed from a (B-R) WAR standpoint, was that all of the guys that were pulling in significant at-bats for them performed well. They had 9 guys with at least 300 PA, and the lowest WAR number of the group was 1.0 in 636 PA (Ibanez); everyone else had at least 1.7 WAR. The Cardinals also had 9 guys with at least 300 PA, and they had a 0.9 WAR in 486 PA (Boog), 0.8 in 323 (Jay), 0.4 in 529 (Skip), and a -0.1 in 425 (Lopez); balancing that was the 12.7 WAR in 1,375 PA from TheMang and Lego Man combined (top two for Phils: 9.6 in 1,085 by Werth/Ruiz). Total WAR for those 9 on each team: Phils 25.7 WAR in 4,859 PA vs. Cards 22.9 WAR in 4,507 PA.
The Cardinals lost Ludwick (2.2 in 314) and Lopez; they will see less from Jay (fewer PA); they will gain Berkman (insert latest prediction here, both for WAR and PA); and they swap Boog for Theriot. Maybe Freese gets some of Lopez’s PAs and does well with them (1.7 in 270). There’s also a fair bit of dead weight heading out the door (Winn, Miles, Stavinoha).
The Phillies lost Werth (5.2 in 652); they will swap some PAs from Valdez to Rollins (both 1.7 in 364/393 respectively); and they will hand off PA to Brown (-0.6 in 70) and Francisco (0.8 in 197).
The Phillies have a lot to replace with the loss of Werth, without anybody of consequence lined up to do so. The Cardinals at least have Berkman coming in for Luddy, and a fair amount of “addition by subtraction”, assuming they can get replacement-level production from those that take over the PAs. Evaluate as you will.
Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.
Dominic Brown is set to replace Werth
Maybe not all the way, but he’s really good.
Not afraid to nitpick
yeah.
from what I saw of him, he’s REALLY good. I imagine he’ll be outperforming Werth in a couple years.
Kick ass in Seattle, Boog.
I dunno;
Phils Offense:
1B: Very good
2B: Excellent
SS: Above-average (probably)
3B: Average, at a push
C: Probably about average
LF: Hard to predict, but I’m guessing a notch above average
CF: Above average
RF: Hard to predict, but a .400+ wOBA in AA and AAA says probably above average.
Their star hitters aren’t as good as ours but they have much more depth and may have legitimately average or above average hitters in every position.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 16, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Their rotation and bullpen are both well ahead of ours (the rotation more so)
Probably a good 5-6 wins difference overall, I’d have thought.
I also reckon they’re arguably better in terms of position players – I think there’s a fair chance they’re above-average in every spot but LF this year, if Dominic Brown turns out to be halfway good. Conversely, we’re highly unlikely to be above-average at 2B or SS, and I’d say 3B is a stretch right now. I guess Pujols/Holliday is better than Utley/Howard, which balances it out a bit.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 16, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
did this get brought up yesterday?
Article from Gordon on the mothership.
In short – grit = good, chemistry can’t be quantified with stats, and TLR is “old school”
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
Wasn't there a veiled shot in there at "bloggers" or something like that?
I remember getting a distinct “I’m a sportswriter and you’re just nobodies, I’m right you’re wrong!” vibe when I read it.
I think you mean this part...
But the game isn’t played on paper. It’s played on the field by interacting humans. Team chemistry matters in baseball, whether fans choose to believe it or not.
New school statistical analysis gives fans plenty to discuss, but old-school player qualities still go a long way in Our National Pastime.
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
He also mentions fans in the chat rooms
(the “C” word is “chemsitry”)
Many fans dismiss the "C" word. They will keep La Russa under relentless chat room/message board assault until the ’11 Cards begin playing for real.
Some fans will demand La Russa’s firing even if the retooled team succeeds, given Ryan’s popularity.
Tony can live with that. What La Russa can’t live with is relying on players he doesn’t believe in, especially at critical positions.
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
avsfan, meet bgh. bgh, avsfan.
Fire John Mozeliak & Tony LaRussa! (Good luck in Seattle, Boog!)
by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 14, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
these posting boxes could really use a spell-check button
dagnabbit
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
I already use firefox
so, sadly, it’s pretty much error on my part.
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
gordon can kiss my ass
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
He Can?
That would be taking liberties, would it not? He may be married, in which case his wife might not like the idea of him smooching random parts of VEB posters’ bodies, particularly in the nether regions. To my twisted way of thinking, “kissing ass” is moore of a symbolic effrontery – I mean, let’s face it, I can think of moore than a few females for whom this would not be cowsidered a chore on my part. But then I have neither dignity, honor, or good manners, so I guess its all relative.
All in all, I might say something like “Gordon can wipe my hooves”, or “Gordon can balm my udder rash”, or something of the like o get the desired effect. Or have I spent too much time thinking about this?
Drat.
:=8/
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
you can kiss my ass too
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
by d-dee on Dec 14, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Chore
I’m thinking that Moo just said he would gladly kiss your ass d-dee. He just has no interest in kissing Gordon’s.
by WizardofOz1982 on Dec 14, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
I Would Love to Wander Around the Streets...
….going up to people at random and shout “Balm my udder rash!”, just to see what they do…
;=8)
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
Probably report you to DHS
because they’d think you were talking about “udder bomb”.
Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.
Baseball is the team sport most based on individual accomplishment.
No one has to interact with a team member to get a hit. The interaction between the catcher and pitcher or defenders is far less than in basketball, football, or hockey. I think the notion of “interacting humans” is way overstated in baseball.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
My view is...
…that if guys in the clubhouse hate each other so much that they can’t play well, then they’re a bunch of unprofessional losers. I’ve played a lot of ball in my day, all the way up to the college level, and talent trumps buddy buddy all the time. We played a team once that fought in their dugout. I got on first and asked the first baseman what that was all about… he said that these two guys hated each other and pretty much no one on the team got along. They were also close to the best team in our conference. This is argument by anecdote, but I think the point still stands. Go out there and play and to hell with that other garbage.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Dec 14, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
amen
last year our “good” players still played good
and our sucky players played sucky
we just had too many sucky guys
by jealousblues on Dec 14, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
well that, and its just completely fallacious
argumentation to imply that stat-heads don’t believe in intangibles. Of course they do. If I’m miserable at work my performance is probably going to suffer. Why should it be any different for baseball players? It’s just that the statistically inclined realize such things are unquantifiable, so with millions of dollars and a team’s success on the line, better to go with the guy who statistically projects better than the gritty, veterany, clubhouse guy who sucks.
They're just kind of waltzing through the offseason assuming 2010 will repeat itself...
Meanwhile 2011 zips ops+ – 2010 ops+
Votto -23
Rolen -19
Phillips -3
Bruce -4
Hernandez -22
Gomes -4
Stubbs -16
Hanigan -32
Cairo -28
Janish -18
Heisey -7
There’s not a single guy that projects to improve… except maybe Alonso. Their pitching could be a bit better, but that offense will almost certainly be a lot worse.
Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.
as much as I approve of non-sequitur posts that show how the Reds will suck
i can’t really tell what this is in response to.
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Dec 14, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
my earlier post about the Reds not being able to repeat
their offensive performance from last year. Thanks guayzami, this is one of the most encouragng things I’ve seen this off-season.
non-sequitur posts that show how the Reds will suck
should be a meme here
by jealousblues on Dec 14, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Phallacious
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Dec 14, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey; I'll rec a cock joke!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 16, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
I’ve never liked Gordon much but that quote sums up how I feel about baseball pretty well.
by WizardofOz1982 on Dec 14, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder what he means by "go a long way"
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
One thing that jumped off the page at me,
Why the hell would you put Skip in RF as a defensive move with JJ on the bench? Pretty sure you’d like you OF to be able to get to the ball, and speed ain’t Skippy’s game. Not real sure what Skippy’s game is at this point, but pretty sure speed ain’t it.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 14, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
i haven't read that asshat in 3 years, i thought everyone else did too
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Goold has a contest on his facebook page.
Slogan for 2011 Cardinals. A VEBer should probably win this.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
and it should be "Fuck you, Nerds"
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Dec 14, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
This could work, really...
It rolls off the tounge quite nicely.
(100 internet dollars to the one who can reference rui’s mom with the above =) )
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
most "likes" gets a copy of his book (i think)
right now “Pay Like a Philly” is winning (with 2 “likes”)
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
How about "The 2011 Cardinals - we had it all planned out on paper..."
“…but the dog ate it. So this is Plan B.”
Alas, I’m (quite possibly the only person in the world) not on facebook.
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
i fought it for years
gave up last year
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
2011 Cardinals
Revenge of Tony LaRussa?
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Dec 14, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
What about "The Final Act"?
It works for TLR and for Pujols.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
considering both may not be back next year, you're right.
although, in the sense of TLR, it sounds like glory. in the sense of albert, a big sad.
Fire John Mozeliak & Tony LaRussa! (Good luck in Seattle, Boog!)
by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 14, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
How about "The Curtain Call"
It leaves a nice sense of impending doom hanging in the air
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
i think i've can point out two that are VEBers already.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
i'm bitter so i'll keep posting shit
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
Yeah, i've noticed that. Haha!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
lots of english fails today.
Fire John Mozeliak & Tony LaRussa! (Good luck in Seattle, Boog!)
by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 14, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
I finally came up with a good comparison for Ryan
None of us know for sure, but I picture Ryan as being a lot like Big Baby and Nate Rob of the Boston Celtics.
Those guys are clowns, and cut up all the time. They are much younger than the core of the team, which is made up of vets that has won a lot of ball games in their careers.
Where the difference is, IMO, is that BB and NR have figured out how to interact with the vets. When to joke around. When to take things seriously. When to “stay out of the way”, so to speak. I’m just not sure Ryan ever learned that. And, from the sounds of things, it really rubbed a large percentage of the roster the wrong way.
Nothing more, nothing less.
have they been diagnosed as ADHD too?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
so boog = clown
got it. you’re an amazing genius! or perhaps, you have insider knowledge.
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
dang
I’m a staple at this live blog. I wonder what a world without CFIC would be like.
but yeah, sorry, I didn’t like your analogy. it was kind of a gut reaction, sorry for gut reactions everywhere.
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
I'm toning it down
taking it elsewhere.
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
you're two towels
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Dec 14, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
I have plenty of towels for everyone
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
two out if every three towels prefers CFIC.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 14, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
somethimes you should use your inside voice
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
boog will be showing his true colors in Seattle?
full face paint?
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure he and Bradley will get on like a house on fire
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
he also plays basketball I've heard
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
i try to resist comparing him to matthew from newsradio.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Dec 14, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
think he will still be hanging around the clubhouse?
now that he has been fired?
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
I am not ruling out seeing him on pitchers and catchers
Report day.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Dec 15, 2010 2:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
one problem, Boog's 29, only a year younger than Albert
he’s not a kid & i think that’s what pissed off TLR & some vets. they think only a kid should act that way not a guy who they believed should have been a leader & a good example to younger players
frankly that’s BS. just because you’re a certain age doesn’t mean you have to act a certain way. they are in the wrong here for expecting & demanding Boog be someone he’s not.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Did you go out and get busy burning stuff and tossing rocks?
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
No, i collapsed from exhaustion after 24hrs of not sleeping.
Also, is that a euphemism?
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
This time, nope.
And, nice.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
too busy twatting his desk for all that
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
I think I figured out the whole Laird thing
giving the whole NBA game link above
he was brought in as Cueto/Phillips control
(as he the guy who had his leg broke by Pujols?)
the Phillies, at least, won't have the high octane offense
of years past… but with that kind of pitching, it probably doesn’t matter.
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 1:53 PM EST reply actions
z
so whats the thought on what we do for RF next year when Berkman is retired and we (hopefully) have spent a lot of money on Pujols?
if TLR is gone, maybe. otherwise, no.
Fire John Mozeliak & Tony LaRussa! (Good luck in Seattle, Boog!)
if MO is gone
since you know, every-time Mo put him on the roster TLR used him.
And Mo is signed for 3 more years!
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
sorry
I know you’re on board with the “fire Mo Movement”; which is not the movement I’m on. Just a credit thing.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
so if oquendo is our manager next year
you still think mo will pull the tlr-like moves?
Fire John Mozeliak & Tony LaRussa! (Good luck in Seattle, Boog!)
I'd really doubt it
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
i see no evidence that he would
Randy Winn Played 238.1 Innings in the outfield
Allen Craig played 203.2 Innings in the outfield
Jon Jay played 601.2 Innings in the outfield
Nick Stavionha stood in the outfield for 129.2 innings.
Randy Winn and Stavionha were on the roster longer than Craig and Jay. Signs points to Tony preferring to play Craig/Jay over Winn/Stavinoha.
Mo was the one who stated at the start of Spring Training that there isn’t a spot in Memphis for Stavinoha last year.
Also, Oquendo might also prefer TLR type players.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
actually
what he said is that stav has nothing left to prove in AAA. good thing that TLR outrighted stav off the roster to protect us from john mozeliak, eh?
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
he may have said that
but don’t be surprised when he is left off the memphis rosters when they break camp as well.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
i don't know what you're getting at
i don’t really care where stav is if it isn’t the 25-man roster
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
post lud and hitting 400 does a lot for your playing time
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
it seems like our system doesn't have nearly as many outfielders as it used to
I guess Jay or Craig might end up playing there. it’s too far away though. what if Berkman does well and doesn’t retire.
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
and what if Craig ends up doing ok in the infield
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
I don't have high hopes for him playing third
But it would be great if it works out.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
I mean what are the odds that the Reds get 5.1 WAR out of their catchers next year
what is the over under on their .292/.369/.424 from those two guys this season
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
I fully support this attempt to continue a meme, even if no one else acknowledges it.
Bully for you, TomCat.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 14, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
i don't get it
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
You cannot acknowledge such a thing this early
Lest you stunt its development. Let the meme grow naturally and we will be that much prouder of it when it happens.
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
You think?
Hmm. I was afraid with no nurturing it would just wither and die. Perhaps you’re right, and I’ve done more harm than good with my smothering affection.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 14, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
They are hardy things
I think it is much worse to force a meme upon the community than to just let it happen.
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
is he any better than Jon Jay?
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's generally thought he has more potential than a Jon Jay type
but it was always a question whether he’d turn the tools into skills.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
This may be a repeat, but
I’m not going to read through all 10,000 comments from the weekend to see. 590 The Fan has a copy of Mo’s original press release announcing the Boog trade
Also, the Big Ten’s names for the newly created divisions? Legends and Leaders
View the poll here to vote on your picks. I had to go with the SEC reference ones, but I did like Windy and Cold as division names.
Time to take advantage of Yankee Desperation
I brought this up a few weeks ago, and it looks like the conditions have been met. Is it time to consider a Chris Carpenter trade? Since the Phillies have become almost unstoppable for this year, maybe we use this chance to get younger and build long-term. Start any deal with Eduardo Nunez, and add two live arms. What do you guys think?
I'd do that in a heartbeat
Sorry, Carp. If you can summon the mercy required from your dark warrior’s heart, I’d like the luggaging to avoid my face so my casket can be open at the wake.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
You fail to understand
We have Skip.
As someone remarked a few years ago, Utley couldn’t displace him from 2B on this team.
Too much of LaRussa’s ego is tied up in the situation.
Play ball!
by IL and StL Fan on Dec 14, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
wrong
Skip Schumaker is looks awesome
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Skip Schumaker isn't as attractive as some would have you believe
But he is awesome.
Need i link to that fan post again?
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
It's not his face.
He steps out of the clubhouse in this video and he is SHREDDED in the abdominal region.
i cannot wait for the spring
i miss baseball
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
me too
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
especially since it's like 5 degrees right now
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
oh, boo fucking hoo.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
lemme guess, it's -15 where you are?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
actually, it's about 40.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i thought you all just had a blizzard?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
naw, it rained today....
which make all the streets just fucking pleasant.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i'd rather drive in rain than snow & ice
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
rain @ 31 degrees is like a fucking zamboni on the streets.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
yes, yes it is
but you said it was 40, so which is it? 31 or 40?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
31 in the morning....
It’s montana…it’ll probably go between the two three times tomorrow.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
gotcha, didn't realize there was
that big of a swing this time of year out there. i assumed it was just cold & snowy from now till april
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
who is the guy with the steroids chest at 1:40?
is that Stavinoha?
Also, I like how they caught B-R showing up at 0:36 in street clothes, looking sheepish, while everyone else is dressed out. Doh!
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
isn't he the weight coach?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
man I've been there
that is an awful feeling. . . or being dressed out in the wrong clothes.
/dingdangoleturdinapunchbowl
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
given the right return,
I would be completely open to a Chris Carpenter trade. I don’t even know that we should pick up his option in ‘12, and we really shouldn’t be extending him unless its very team favorable in terms of years and $.
Gerald Laird??
Gerald F*ing Laird???
GERald Laird????
Gerald LAIRD?
Are you f*ing KIDDING ME???
Hunh. Gerald Laird. Well, whadya know?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2010 2:39 PM EST reply actions
how about
a winn, laird, feliz, miles, boog, stav, pags lineup? sub 600 team OPS?
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
good news is
Only Laird is on the 40 man,
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
sadly everyone else shared the september roster
why did this team fade down the stretch again?
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
we went 9-2 down the stretch!
Oh you mean that late august – early september thing.
Aaron Miles.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
milesnova happy pete black hole of suck
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
because brendan ryan's antics rubbed people the wrong way
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
yea i worried for a while that they'd keep him
just because he was the best we had
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
That's just a bat-shit crazy suggestion.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 14, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Gerald Laird
the definition of “adequataquaticism”.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Heyman says
1yr/$1mil + $300k in performance incentives
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
for Laird of course
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
not bad
he was probably the best available catcher who hadn’t already rejected a backup role or a backup salary. got him cheap, too
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
i'm curious what the performance incentives are for
batting .250/.310/.350???
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i didn't think performance incentives were allowed
probably incentives for innings caught or PAs
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
you're right i think
Heyman said “performance bonuses” though. seriously what kind of extra performance can they expect from a backup? maybe it’s so if Yadi gets hurt and all of a sudden he has a huge work load, he gets paid more
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Take out the trash in Tony's office after the games.
Make coffee in the morning.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I'll give him a bonus if he puts something in tony's coffee to make him function rationally
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
All star game appearances
MVP awards ect…
;-)
by jealousblues on Dec 14, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yankee's will be paying Posada
$13.1 Million in 2011 to be a backup catcher.
I feel better about the world now.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
up to $1M more than anderson
for how many at bats/innings?
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
stupid
you a million dollars could get us 1/4th of the way to O-Dog.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
I stand to be corrected
but I’m not sure O-Dog, with no type-A, won’t make more than 4m.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 16, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
I have a sad story.
I pulled up mlb.tv opening day 2010 just to have something playing in the background in the office and it shows Brendan in a Mariners cap in the lineup tracker deal. But then Albert hit a HR in his first AB, so that made me a little less sad.
so i'm watching dr strangelove...
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
Peter Sellers rulz
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
best comedy ever
and i’ll fight anyone who disagrees. verbally of course.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
Sellers is always remembered as the genius of that film
but George C. Scott steals the show imo (not to say that Sellers wasn’t great)
i dunno
scott was great of course, but sellers was simply amazing. all three of his characters were just superb.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
Man I wish we had one of them Doomsday thingies!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Oh man. I just had a horrible thought
Now that whipping boy Ryan is gone. Think of the consent lashing that Al will be giving Colby all year.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Well, as long as it's a consent lashing,
I think that’s probably okay. I mean, it’s not my thing, but as long as Colby says it’s alright I can live with it.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Dec 14, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
spell check can't fix stupid
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
yknow
if you’re into that kinda thing
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
i just went to a scary visual place.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
As Y2S would say,
never visualize anything on VEB.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 14, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
longshot: Does anyone know anything about UPS ?
My UPS package has been stuck on Arrival Scan for days?
I ordered a new water bed mattress and its been at Earth City (part of St. Louis where I am. Typically it hits there first, then to another st. louis facility)
since Friday, it is now Tuesday and there is no change. Still stuck on arrival scan.
It had a scheduled delivery date for yesterday, but that passed and still nothing new (though it no longer says “in transit on time” it just says “in transit” now)
To make things worse I had a bass shipped to me on sat that got to me on mon.
Any idea whats up?
IM sick of sleeping on a futon while its been like 30 mins away for 4-5 days now
can I call and pick the thing up?
(my drivers license doesnt have my current address on it though so I dont know if they would let me :-/)
I did call their 1800 number and it didnt help much
basically an answering machine (lol at when I tried to track it there to see if I got different results it just said something like “your package is on its way to you” what the hell is that?)
worse yet is I had a bass sent to me via UPS, it was sent out on Sat and I got it Mon.
I ordered it through Amazon, I wonder if thats part of it?
you could call UPS
I’ve seen them miss a scan before. Which will cause all other scans to not show up. But it would still show up on the scheduled delivery date on-time. Earth city should also be the last stop. So more than likely they are just using it to take naps during break time.
Kinda like the USPS did with my lemoncello and olive oil I had sent from Sicily last year. But they did deliver the shipping label a few months later.
Jerks.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
the good news is it should
be all pressed together is a small box not labeled “waterbed mattress”
(that story didnt really happen did it?)
by jealousblues on Dec 14, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
I couldnt
get an actual person when calling UPS
by jealousblues on Dec 14, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Did you call 800-377-4877?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
yeah
is that the preferred customer line or whatever?
I searched the internet and saw two numbers people suggested to call
one was the 800 ship it (or whatever) number
and one was the preferred customer number, but when I called that one it asked for some customer number (not tracking) that I dont have before it would let me continue :-/
by jealousblues on Dec 14, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
I've always used
1-800-PICK-UPS (742-5877); and managed to get to a person. Though we switch to fedex a few years ago at work. So I haven’t had to call them in a while.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Seriously...just say operator at every prompt, and you will get to a person
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I've heard swearing at the automation works the same as saying operator
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I keep increasing the tone
of operator, I will try incessant cussing next time though.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
one time my mother was very frustrated by an automation system
We told her cussing works. So naturally my sister, my dad and I are all standing around my mother, who doesn’t cuss, waiting anxiously for what cuss words she’ll come up with.
“Slut! Whore! Piss!”
We all start rolling with laughter.
“What???”
We’re still laughing. Is that the worst think she can think of??
“GIve me a F*cking real person you dumb*ss B*tch machine!”
Then the laughter really started coming. It was so funny to hear my own mother cuss like that. By the time it was all over we were so sore and tired from laughing so hard.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I had a similar thing happen to me w/ their st louis location
Could get a hold of anyone, so I just drove over there. we got it straightened out and delivered that afternoon.
So, that’s my suggestion.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
When you call them,
keep saying operator at their prompts. It will at least get you to a live person, who in turn probably won’t be of much help.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
seriously why does everyone assume that a team that went from 14.6 batter WAR to 33.6WAR
won’t regress at least a few wins?
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
by TomCat009 on Dec 14, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
UPS is going to regress in their batter WAR from last year?
Do you have spreadsheets to back this up? I mean, I realize that FedEx just got a great pitcher added to their rotation and all, but why do you have to be so down on UPS?
Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.
by Rejuvenile on Dec 14, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well I saw
FedEx’s Projected UZR was a +20. For now I’m waiting to see what UPS’d FO will do before spring training. Sign the LOOGY from Puerto Rico!
Good-bye Boog, we hardly knew thee.
Keep those socks high, the stache long, and the shoulder wet.
bass as in fish, or bass as in guitar?
And if it is, in fact, bass as in fish, will it be swimming inside said water bed?
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
saddly its the guitar
because that second option actually sounds kinda cool
like the platforms with the goldfish
by jealousblues on Dec 14, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
Braintwin
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Welp, bye bye college
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
congrats dude
i must say i’m a bit jealous
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Congrats,
your mother says she’s proud of you.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
like wise
I’m proud of your mother.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Well done
in unrelated news; i haven’t got that wedding invite yet
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
Have you seen the latest FIFA asshat comment about Qatar?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Nothing that guy says will ever surprise me
But yeah, i’ve read it
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
You trying to tell me i'm not invited?
It ok, i get it, your worried i’ll distract you from your wife-to-be. Its fine. I never loved you anyway!!!
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
you parents are going to get drunk every night with the money they'll be saving
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
Yeah, that's one of the biggest reasons I'm graduating early
…and the whole “I actually get to spend time with my fiancee” thing
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
"I actually get to spend time with my fiancee
just to find out i hate her guts" haha
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
Why are you the way that you are?
Every time I try to some thing fun, or exciting, you make it not that way
I hate so much about the things that you choose to be
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Dec 14, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it's a good thing you're not marrying me then
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
Wow!
I think I’ve discovered a VEB secret! mysterui’s fiance is actually d-dee. They pull this “I hate you” schtick on here to throw us all off!
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 14, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
So, uh, I'll pick you up at work later?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
yeah, we can do that thing we talked about at that place, you know
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
You mean the thing my mom taught you?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Dec 14, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
soooo awkward
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
He did say rural Missouri
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
only if you promise not to tell me your mom does it better
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
by d-dee on Dec 14, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
you're talking about making meatloaf right?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
...you could say that
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Dec 14, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you know i told everyone i "graduated early" too
in my case, i just flunked out and printed a snazzy-looking degree.
Not saying you did that or anything…
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Congratulations!
Good luck on your job search.
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 14, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
good luck, we're all counting on you
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
....
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
this was more fun
when you posted the appropriate pic, instead of relying on me us to do your dirty work, and you bailing out on some “my wings are clipped” piss poor fucking excuse.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
is it apparent that I've
been drinking 9.5% beer for the last four hours?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
done cured HIV
http://www.aidsmap.com/page/1577949/?r=1
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
is it fair to call Mozeliak a patsy?
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 4:02 PM EST reply actions
seems about right
Main Entry: patsy
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: fall guy
Synonyms: boob*, chump, doormat, dupe, easy mark, fool, goat, gull, pigeon, pushover, sap*, scapegoat, schmuck, sitting duck, stooge, sucker, victim, weakling
* = informal/non-formal usage
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
no
a patsy doesn’t have any idea that he’s taking the fall/blame until he finds himself suddenly arrested/in jail.
I think Mo has a pretty fair idea what’s going on.
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
i'd say when he signed on to be GM
he had no idea his hand would be forced so much. His jail is his office.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
(I'm going to keep working backwards from now on. That was fun.)
Remember when Matt Holliday said on twitter he liked Creed or Nickleback or some other terrible band then got made fun of a bunch? I think that officially got him to quit twitter.
[Apropos of: I was going to write: “Sounds like he created his (/sunglasses) own prison…” and then comment on how Creed sucks.]
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Hey now
My Own Prison wasn’t actually that bad of an album. They sounded totally different then. Less distortion, Tremonti actually played riffs then instead of power chord after power chord, and Stapp could actually sing then too—compared to what he does now.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Oh boy
I think you’re about to start something here….hope you know what you’re doing!
by Merry CRasmus on Dec 14, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
I actually agree wholeheartedly the next album was a fall off of a cliff
but my own prison was solid. Holliday is my age so he would have been around 16-17 when it came out, I could see having an attachment to them.
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
I could get on board with that analogy
started with a strong effort, fell off of the cliff
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
he just re-upped
a few months ago. I think it’s good with what’s going on
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
ah
good point
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
As in
TLR: I want Berkman here, and I want Boog gone.
MO: How soon?
TLR: Like, yesterday.
MO: Done.
TLR: MO, you’re such a tool.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
if not incompetent
then he most definitely is a pussy
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions
so prices for autographs were released for the winter warmup
link
lohse – $5 ouch
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
it does seem kinda steep
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
by Evilfrog on Dec 14, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
zing
I thought I told you to trim those sideburns!
by martimeryard on Dec 14, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Also, give Vince $25!
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
i probably have a dozen Steve Kline autographs
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I'll pay $10 for an autographed copy of my Lohse cartoon.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Dec 14, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I'll pay $10 to stand next you as you ask him for it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Dec 14, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
So need to sell about 4 million
of em’ to afford the buyout?
by Merry CRasmus on Dec 14, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
FREE...
FORMER PLAYERS
Glenn Brummer
John Costello
Ken Dayley
Chuck Diering
Neil Fiala
Phil Gagliano
Rich Hacker
Tom Henke
Rick Horton
Rex Hudler
Charlie James
Mike Jorgensen
Jeff Lahti
Tom Lawless
Eli Marrero
T.J. Matthews
Ed Mickelson
Mark Petkovsek
Jesse Rogers
Ted Savage
Ted Sizemore
DeMorris Smith
Sam Taylor
Scott Terry
Mike Tyson
Bill Virdon
Mark Whiten
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
Looking to flip it for something else?
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
by TBender on Dec 14, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
veb needs to put someone in front of a mic
for questions with Mo and ask why it makes baseball sense for Theriot to be the starting SS and for boog to be given away for a redundant bullpen prospect
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
and if he replies "Because TLR"?
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
by TomCat009 on Dec 14, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He'd probably reply. . .
when given a chance to be a full-time starter at SS, he put up an OPS of .573, good for an OPS+ of 57.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 14, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
as opposed to the .633 OPS and vastly inferior defense
that the guy we’re replacing him put up…
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHcjXlS7Cnk&feature=related
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
With a rehabbing wrist
and a swing the Cardinals forced him to retool. Why isn’t anyone talking about this?
by WizardofOz1982 on Dec 15, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe because Boog. . .
has a body of offensive work that includes alternating 90ish OPS+s with 50ish OPS+s. The 50ish OPS+ are about what you would expect from someone with a 644 OPS in AAA. At this point in his career, the 50ish OPS look a lot more to be the rule rather than the exception.
I know, I know, defense, blah, blah, blah. Everyone likes to compare him to Ozzie Smith. Even granting that they are defensive equals, which is a stretch IMHO, but granting that for the sake of argument, Ozzie only had one comparably abysmal season, an age 24 season with an OPS+ of 48. By the time Ozzie was Boog’s age, his past two seasons had been an 84 OPS+ and a 82 OPS+ in significantly more PAs than Boog.
The funny thing is, after Ozzie’s only other comparable season (a 62 OPS+ at age 26 in 1981, not as bad as Boog’s 2010, but at least in the same neighborhood), he got traded, with off-the-field issues also being prominently cited as part of the reason.
I bet a million internet dollars that Boog won’t even turn in 1 season with an OPS+ of 95 or greater. Ozzie turned in 8 after he turned 28.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 15, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Ozzie Smith
Ozzie is my favorite player of all time and yes Boog’s defense does at least make Ozzie come to mind but I’m well aware that Boog isn’t the offensive player that Ozzie was. Wow that’s a weird sentence I never thought I’d say while defending someone.
However Boog has had the wrist injury since high school, finally got it taken care of, and then posted a horrible season. I just think they shold have at least given him another year to see how the wrist heals. He won’t ever be Jayson Werth but even Werth got DFA’d following wrist surgery. Think the Dodgers regret that move?
by WizardofOz1982 on Dec 16, 2010 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
Rather than looking at isolated seasons
shouldn’t we look at boog’s whole career?
Of the .294 wOBA and 81 wRC+? His career OPS is .658 with a .292 BABIP which, if anything, seems a little unlucky.
I don’t think he’s a .700 OPS hitter but he’s probably as good as his overall career numbers which, if he’s a +10 defender at SS (I said IF) makes him basically an average player at a position of need.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 16, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Can I just throw my shoes at him?
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Dec 14, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, really, who throws a shoe?
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
A horse?
Not saying anything…..just sayin.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
after the contract, I think he can afford it...
oh, wait…
thats what WE pay for it…?
by jealousblues on Dec 14, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
too bad about Bengie
oh well
I hope Yadi gets more off days next year. That 20 inning effort followed by the turnaround the next day still gives me chills.
Yeah, Yadi is durable. Everybody everywhere is durable until they’re not.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
so is Laird actually a confirmed signing yet?
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
MLBTR has the terms... of endearment
maybe that Strauss link does as well… don’t know
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Dec 14, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Sperms of Endearment
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
ride him until he drops
i don’ think the long innings do that much damage - I think it’s old age that does the trick - get as much as you can while he is young.
Just win
TWSS
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
quick everyone: Top 5 songs of 2010!
Heres mine:
5. Chinatown – Destroyer
4. Collector – Here We Go Magic
3. Sprawl II (Mountains Beyond Mountains) – Arcade Fire
2. Shutterbug – Big Boi
1. Celestica – Crystal Castles
Fire John Mozeliak
they had a reunion show this last year I think
by jealousblues on Dec 14, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
it was at the pageant
I would have went but I think I had a gig or something
by jealousblues on Dec 14, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Flagged for no Miranda Lambert
or Taylor Swift
/only partial sarcasm
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 14, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
I like Miranda Lambert alright
but there were a lot of songs made in 2010, and a lot of good ones got left off.
Fire John Mozeliak
you are the reason we signed Gerald Laird
because apparantly Taylor Swift has a Top 5 song of 2010… you are either hilarious or deaf
if that sounded harsh, it’s because i’m pissed right now so sorry ahead of time
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 1:35 AM EST up reply actions
off the top of my head
Film School – Nothing’s Mine
Jesu – Aureated Skin
Intronaut – Core Relations
Tame Impala – Runway, Houses, City, Clouds
Immolation – The Rapture of Ghosts
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
crap, I forgot Autechre - qplay
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
they just put out TWO albums this year
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
*raises hand*
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
quick and dirty cause really it's easier to do it by album but I think these songs are pretty sweet
6. Sleigh Bells-Rill Rill
5. Deerhunter-Helicopter
4. National-Lemonworld
3. Wolf Parade-Ghost Pressure
2. The Pomegranantes-Anywhere You Go
1. Menomena-Queen Black Acid
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 14, 2010 5:17 PM EST reply actions
agreed on helicopter
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
trufax
“The story is not an issue to us,” Lee’s agent Darek Braunecker told ESPNNewYork.com in late October. “Her experience in New York is certainly a non-issue. She enjoys New York as much as anyone enjoys New York.”
this comes from a story wondering whether Lee’s wife was so turned off by NYers that she asked him not to accept the yanks offer. “she” is Lee’s wife.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
"she enjoys NY as much as anyone enjoys NY"
That’s the takeaway quote.
Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.
That said...
if my goal in life was to get spit on, I’d buy a plane ticket to Philadelphia and attend a sporting event.
Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.
you aim for spit
but you might achieve vomit
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 14, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
I went to Veteran's Stadium once with my grandpa...
that was the single most disgusting place I’ve ever been. It looked like they just gave up cleaning the place years earlier.
Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.
Being an Arkansas girl, Lee's wife is what we like to call a
Real American. As such, she does not care for NY.
Lohse has a no-trade clause. Please tell your friends.
it helps that he married John Rocker's sister
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
Sweet I won the Cards Twitter giveaway!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I'm assuming the prize is that Laird will come by and clean your garage
and maybe rough up your sister.
I hope you have a garage and that your sister is tucked away safely.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 14, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
I thought he was going to rough up the garage
and clean up his sister.
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
not sure they said they would mail me my "prize pack"
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
that would be quite ironic
/correct usage
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i hope it's not something really stupid like a 30% off coupon from mlb shop
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
didn't someone else win it?
I think they posted pictures.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
vexed took second and got a hat or something, IIRC.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
The Yankees couldn't get Lee so they got
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i though he played college football
oh wait.
prior needs to follow mulder into the afterlife.
Kyle Lohse has a No-Trade Clause.
Prior will win 300 games
going the Jamie Moyer route
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
Junkballing lefty?
He’d probably have better luck with that route, come to think of it. That right arm is mostly jello and twist ties at this point.
I figured out why Cliff Lee chose Philly
it must’ve been CHOOCH
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the Yankees will be okay.
they just signed Mark Prior.
minor league contract.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
we're up here
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/12/14/1875225/cliff-lee-and-gerald-laird#54478564
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
are they going to attempt a Duncan reclamation project?
good luck, you don’t have Dave!
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm trolling my roommate so hard right now
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Dec 14, 2010 8:16 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
My son is the gay?!?!?!?
REAVE MY SON ARONE
by mysterui's mom on Dec 14, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 17 recs
wow. this is gonna be good. ahahaha
Fire John Mozeliak & Tony LaRussa! (Good luck in Seattle, Boog!)
is it common knowledge
who is doing this? if so, dont tell me. its funnier this way.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
Mom! What'd I tell you about being on VEB?!
And no I’m not gay, I’m just playing a prank on my roommate!
God you’re so embarassing
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Dec 14, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
3 comments, 26 recs.
That’s a rate hard to keep, Mrs. Mysterui.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
She's an expert on all things hard.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 14, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
oh my fuck who are you?
I’m guessing Aranthor.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
It's you
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
nope...not that one.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I think it's mysterui on the long troll.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
fuck off, you pissy, british, grammar prick ;
I don’t correct you, when you’re drunk. *
- I almost missed a comma.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Oh fuck you too then RR
i mean just cause i ask people to spell my name right… gawd. How’d you like it if i called you RoverRot?
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
What's a rot?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I really hope you took that as the joke it was meant to be.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i did take it as a joke
lucky for you i’m pissed off my face
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
I think it's funny that in this exchange
RiverRat seems pretty drunk
Aranathor seems bloody normal
I guess that says a lot about my baseline for your two personalities
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
me too?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
you're welcome?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Indeed?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Verily?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'm just waiting for you two to break into a Monty Python skit song.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
We’re Knights of the Round Table.
We dance whene’er we’re able.
We do routines and chorus scenes
With footwork impeccable.
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
by Aranathor on Dec 15, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We dine well here in Camelot,
We eat ham and jam and spam a lot.
We’re Knights of the Round Table,
Our shows are formidable, But many times, we’re given rhymes
That are quite unsingable.
We’re Opera mad in Camelot,
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Dec 15, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wait!!!!
What’s going on here?
NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!!!
by The Spanish Inquisition on Dec 15, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bravo! Bravo!
You beautifully hilarious bastards are cracking me up right now.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
Have a seat over here.
NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!!!
by The Spanish Inquisition on Dec 15, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
No! NooOOOooOOO!!!
Anything but the COMFY CHAIR!!!!
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
Didn't someone, sort of, claim responsibility?
I ain’t sayin’, but it looked like someone was, more or less, claiming it in another thread.
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 15, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
i didn't see that
I used my mind overlord reading (M.O.D.) powers to find out who it was.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
I love math rock
math rock 101: http://darkforcesswing.blogspot.com/2010/12/math-rock-dfsbp-mixtape.html
this is one of the best examples of music writing I’ve ever read. also includes mixes
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2010 8:34 PM EST reply actions
right, well that was an interesting night out
f’n hell
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
some of us just broke up a fight between people
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
GOD DAMN IT
THE FIRST RULE IS TO NOT FUCKING TALK ABOUT IT
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Only when its in fight club
this was in a regular club…
AND IT RUINED MY CHANCES with a cute guy. i am NOT f’n happy.
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
I will never understand gays.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
it was a (straight) friend of mine vs. 6 other guys
also, it was in a straight club. We managed to get him home without too much incident; but still this guy (my mate) is f’n pissed (both pissed off and very drunk). Its gonna take alot to get him to bed tonight… fuck.
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
you should've twatted them in the face
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
LMAO
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 14, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
I was taking a leak
they waited until he was on his own. Also, i wouldn’t have twatted them because i don’t like getting hit.
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
Must've been some real tuff-guys.
Wait until it’s 6-1 before you start something? That’s the definition of wussy where I’m from.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 14, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
uh huh. I know.
these guys were trying to start something all night. Apparently they got their asses handed to them by the bouncers after we left.
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
"I don't know how many it was gonna take, but I knew how many they were gonna use."
- Ron White
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
So you'r trying to seduce your straight friend?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
the above paragraph?
doesn’t “mate” mean freind?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
still confused
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Why?
While out with his straight friend, Aranathor was making a play on a different guy.
He goes to take a piss and these 6 Johnny Cuetos jump the straight friend.
They have to leave (or get their asses kicked by the Cuetos or the bouncers) and his friend is still adrenaline/alcohol raging and it’s gonna take awhile for him to calm down.
Because of all of this, Aranathor loses his cute guy.
(This is how I read it. Apologies if incorrect.)
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
Yay. I can translate English into
English.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
tell me about biscuits
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
now translate it back
your system is now broken!
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
I jus had an elglish muffin with a fried egg and HP Sauce
I may have just out Britished thee British.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
should've been brown sauce
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
how dare you make me hungry like that!
the only thing to make that better would be an IRNBRU
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
and black pudding
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
The cookies are now diamonds!
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
by hazel on Dec 15, 2010 1:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
We should try
translating it into Japanese, then back again. Thus, Capitalist Lion Tamer becomes Macho Business Donkey Wrestler.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
I'll give you a taste
BJ Rains is a very poor sportswriter…. turns into
You may sports writer is not, BJ Rains are very poor.
Kick ass in Seattle, Boog.
does jimmy have fear? a thousand times no!
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Dec 15, 2010 1:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
what did you mean by the sentence
“pet my scales donkey, donkey, donkey”?
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
I think the quote is
feel my skills donkey donkey donkey donkey
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 15, 2010 8:42 AM EST up reply actions
Is the mate the cute guy you ruined your chances with?
I need an english to american translator.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Bender got it for me!
I was wondering why you got in early!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
You mean he didn't appreciate the strong, take charge, peace-maker persona?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 14, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
No he buggered off before i could put my moves on him
also, i may have slightly wussed out a bit.
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
there are many times
that I think men would be easier thatn women…….FUCK ME.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Obie Gone Kenobi ?
to my continuing distress, I read in my local paper that Ken Oberkfell is finally being elevated to the Bigs. But not by the Cardinals.
As bench coach, apparently, for the (gak) Mets, whose AAA team he has been managing.
It means, I think, another blow to my two or three year on-going dream that Oberkfell manage the Cards (with Matheny as pitching coach). I already dislike Mets’ stain on any of my people, and this makes it worse
Where are you when I need you late night VEB?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
teh fuck it is.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I have platinum gold and silver.
Danup, I demand a refund.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
the monocle makes it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I want whichever version that lets me catch a wild Boog
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Dec 15, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
you're looking for lookout landing
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Actually, saphires are more rare than rubies.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
I was just screwing with ya.
Rubies are red saphires.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
Is it wrong that what I'm most looking forward to in baseball
is seeing how our prospects do? i really really badly wanna see how Carlos Matias/Martinez performs in the US.
Fire John Mozeliak
Me too.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
no, i don't think that's wrong
i’m looking for wins, flags & rings personally. actually i just want to watch the games again. i missed baseball so much this year, i really hope i can afford EI this summer. i just hope i can enjoy them again in a few years too. i didn’t really enjoy 07-09 as much as i should have & i don’t think i’ll enjoy 2011 at all. i just want to set down, watch some games, watch some wins & not be pissed off at the moves the manager & FO makes. is that too much to ask?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I'm thinking of ditching EI,
and going online. We can split it if you want.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
my plan is to have my own place by may & a big ass tv
but if that falls through i might go online. i’ll need a new computer though, i tried watching some free games this summer & i couldn’t have anything else open but that window.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
My mother went off and bought herself a 19 inch HP laptop for under 500 dollars.
I went over there the other day and she broke it out to show it off.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
your mother must have a really strong lap
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I guess, technically, it's a desktop that she can carry around with her.
She’s also 78 and had 7 kids, so that’s not the worst thing she’s ever had to work with.lol It’s actually a really nice computer, 4G with a 300G harddrive. It’s more than she’ll ever use.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 1:51 AM EST up reply actions
i hope to one day be able to afford a mac, i'm really sick of all the crashing & locking up
these dells do. every other day it’s something else with them.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
My MacBook Pro was expensive, but worth every penny since I don't have to deal with Windows ever again.
by RollBirdsRoll on Dec 15, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
I considered that, but Photoshop wouldn't run worth a damn in Linux
I got a great deal on my MacBook , even though with that, it was still well more expensive than a comparable PC.
But I haven’t had one iota of trouble out of it, and it’s as fast and trouble free now as it was two years ago.
I may start fiddling with Linux…I’ve got a nice desktop at home that needs an OS. Any recommendations?
by RollBirdsRoll on Dec 15, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
you want a fairly easy/hassle-free version?
Ubuntu is the most user-friendly of Linux builds.
Fire John Mozeliak
Linux
I prefer Kubuntu for the look but that’s preference.
by WizardofOz1982 on Dec 16, 2010 8:46 AM EST up reply actions
me too
i’ve always had a soft spot for DSL prospects who end up changing their name
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
where's miller gonna start the year?
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
Springfield?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Just two months until Spring Training!!!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
So I go out tonight,
with my SO knowing that I’m doing so….(backstory, we live 60 miles apart and see each other on weekends)…..I went to the brewery with a friend and bribed him to go ( I’d buy beers in exchange for the right to the two bottles of what I posted last night.) Anyway, we were talking with a gal from Austin, (seriously, has anything good ever come out of Austin?) and she was lamenting that she wouldn’t be able to bring a bottle home, as she had to fly out in the morning, and god forbid you carry a liquid on the plane. She asked the brewery if they would ship, they said no, and I volunteered, being in a business that ships products every day, and she gave me one of her bottles in exchange.
On my way home, I told my SO this exact story, excited that I got an extra bottle of beer, and she was pissed that I left the bar with a woman’s address.
What did I do? I’d have been better off not saying a thing.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
that sounds completely innocent to me
how mad is she? like she doesn’t want to see you mad? or mad that maybe she didn’t understand what really happened?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
mad that she thinks I'm picking up on the Texas chick,
which makes me pissed in that she doesn’t trust me.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
OK, that would piss me off too, how long have you all been together?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
5 years.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
ya, i'd be really pissed, she should trust you by now unless you've given her reasons not to
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
It's just a little bit of insecurity.
Reassure her in the fashion of your choosing. Bam. Problem solved.
This is one time to definitely listen to the woman's perspective.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, a 20 minute phone call seemed to do the trick.
It’s just frustrating assuming that I know, that she knows, I have no interest in others. I guess she thinks I’m such a catch, that all other women will want me, which is kind of flattering.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
exactly, we've had this convo before....
she trusts no woman, and knows that most men are too weak to turn it down, ( Broad generalization). She’s said before, I trust you, I just don’t trust any women around you.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Not just women either...
[/needless flirtation]
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
keep it in your pants playboy
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i would never dream of getting your motor started
that’s just mean
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i'm starting to have serious doubts about your ostensible 'straightnes'
sure yu don’t want to talk in private?
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
no, i'm good
my mom’s gay cousin told me a few years ago i will never have to worry about gay guy’s thinking i was gay because of the way i dress. apparently you all don’t go for the jeans/shorts & t shirt type
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
right, because everyone is naked on the internets
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
don't you have a graduation party to attend to?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
wut?
your getting me confused with Rui. i know we’re both unreasonably attractive and all, but come on.
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
See, I thought you'd make the logical jump that you'd be at rui's party,
but I guess British humour only goes so far.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
would you be upset if your husband did something similar?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
No.
But there have been other things that have raised insecurities in me.
The key is to talk about that stuff without being accusatory. And for both to give the other partner the benefit of the doubt. If you’re honest about your fears and thoughts in a way that is respectful, these problems never really become problems at all.
My wife tripped out on me for being friends with some girls on FB that I dated in HS, 20+ years ago.
She calmed down when she realized that if anything was going to happen, it would have a long time ago. Just gotta talk that stuff out.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions
I actually got hit on by a guy at a bar one night.
We talked for an hour before I caught on to what he was doing. That was a helluva revelation when that hit home. I was a very sociable drunk back then, and thought everybody else was, too.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
same thing happened to a friend of mine a couple of months ago.
He’ll never wear that sweater again.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I have been hit on by way too many men, considering how unattractive I am
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
I had to work with this really rude jerky guy
turns out he was gay. Once I started casually turning on my charm he was much easier to get along with.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
yet another reason i avoid fb like the plague
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
You dated in HS?
What the fuck happened to you?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
it's long, long tragic story
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
mmm... i have a family friend that just left his wife of over 30 years
to be with his HS girlfriend, who he reconnected with on facebook. she also left her husband. it was really messed up.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
That minister in New Jersey was right. Facebook breaks up marriages. Burn it with fire.
by WizardofOz1982 on Dec 16, 2010 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
i understand why women don't trust other women
but i don’t get why they don’t trust their guy. i’ve had a gf in the past who was so distrustful of me, there was nothing i could do to convince her i had never, nor would i never cheat. i hated to end it because she was pretty awesome, but i had to. she just would never trust me.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
No different than anyone who has a hard time trusting anyone for any particular reason:
You or someone close to you has been burned that way before.
in her case she had issues with her dad & his friends abusing her & her siblings
and a few of her x’s cheating. so yes, she was burned big time.
i’ve always tried to do what you said, be open, honest, approach it without accusing. that always worked except with her.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
thankfully she did, at least thats what some friends told me
a few years ago. i felt so bad for her, she really was a great person, she just had so much baggage & problems. it never would have worked
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Had one like that once.
Better off to walk away, you can’t help them. And don’t look back, it doesn’t help.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 1:36 AM EST up reply actions
Tell her that if you were doing anything really wrong, then you wouldn't have told her anything
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
well, yeah
What did I do? I’d have been better off not saying a thing.
Also, Austin is a very cool town.
OTOH, definite danger sign if she is that sensitive to something like that.
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
That was a direct dig at PJ, which he's ignored.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i assumed you meant austin, minnesota
you do live in minnesota, right?
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
minnesota is full of, how would Aranathor say it....
wankers. So, no, I’m not from there.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
doesn't everybody know everybody up there anyway?
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
Probably, They all come from Norway and Sweden anyway.
Probably came over on the fucking boat together.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions
scandinavians.
The other white race.
/totally kidding.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
they're like white on salted cod
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I gotta remember that one.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions
it just came to me, at first i thought you said rice instead of race
and then i was like, that doesn’t really work here, they like wild venison & cod. and the rest, as they say, is history
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Technically
cause i’ve never been to minnesota. I have no idea what its full of.
But i approve of the word’wankers’
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
I wasn't saying that you had anything against Minnesota, just stealing your word.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
10,000 lakes
and one dome badly in need of some viagra
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
also,
“where introverts stare at their shoes and extroverts stare at yours”
- Tim Bedore
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 15, 2010 1:35 AM EST up reply actions
Isn't that the definition of "engineer"?
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
by SleepyCA on Dec 15, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Racist!
no….. wait…… Careerist!
(but if it’s true, is it prejudice?)
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 15, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
yes in fact it is
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
mostly viking-americans.
Which is kind of cool. If Minnesota had nuclear weapons, and they revolted against America, Canada would totally fear them.
Also, Wisconsin, the Dakotas, Iowa, and possibly Illinois.
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
If Montana seceded,
we’d be the third largest nuclear power in the world. That is, if they let us keep the missiles.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
If you seceded, then fuck em.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 1:52 AM EST up reply actions
ya wouldn't you keep everything already in the state?
i don’t know what side i’d take if we had another civil war. i’d imagine the south or the western states would win.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
them & alaska are too far away to be involved
this is simply a lower 48 war
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
we'll be f*'d if Alaska ever mobilized.
don’t underestimate
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
you ain't kidding, have you see palin's alaska?
or deadliest catch? those mofo’s are some tough sob’s
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
well, seeing as 90% + of the nuclear
arsenal of the US is in MT, WY. ND, SD, I know which side I’d want to be on.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
really? i guess that makes sense
they are the closest to russia
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
The problem is,
they have the missiles. I don’t think they (the fed) want to give tham to us (the state)…STATES RIGHTS!!!!!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I was just at the National Air and Space museum
a couple weeks ago. Holy hell those minuteman missiles are badass. I mean, one day things like that will probably be responsible for the end of humanity, but HFS they’re cool.
(oh, and I’d still go with Missouri over Montana. We got the nukes and the mobility with the B2 stealth base.
Missouri's always been a border state
at least, that’s what the arch told me.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I've been in 3 silos. Pretty awesome.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'd rather have the silos than the missiles.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
best man-cave ever
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
If you ever get a chance, you need to see them toss the cover off of a silo.
20 tons of concrete catapulted off the top in prep for launch. Pretty cool.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I was in CAP as a kid
kind of a military boy scouts. It was in our back yard and the Air Force was more than willing to give any Joe Schmoe a tour back in those days.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
One of my supervisors when i was working a automotive plant
used to work on nuclear warheads. Said it was the most boring fucking job he’d ever had. Said there were seven guys there checking an rechecking everything that happened. About drove him nuts.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
yeah
but it was for a very good reason. Google “2007 B-52 Wynne Moseley” for details- when you have weapons that can destroy cities, you can’t afford mistakes. And if there are mistakes, the guy at the VERY top gets fired.
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
(unless his name is Mozeliak)
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
good point.
I had never heard of that guy- very interesting story. Thanks for the link!
SAF could also NOT get fired, but instead, watch all of the civilized world die in a massive series of nuclear events. And then watch the rest of the world die a year later due to the nuclear winter. That would suck. Hence, 7 people looking over other guy’s shoulder.
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
i've heard that story before
have you all heard the story about james blunt ignoring nato’s orders to attack russian solider’s in kosovo in 99?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
no, but can you draw it out and make it really interesting
so I have something to read in the morning. I can’t count on RB being early two weeks in a row.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
is that where he got the inspiration for "Beautiful"
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
no, he actually got the inspiration for
“Same Mistake” from his time in the military
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Since Wesley Clark was, for some reason, once a legit candidate for public office
And may, someday, for some reason, again be considered, this is getting dangerously close to the “politics” thingamagig.
i’d rather think about pasties. Or baseball. Erm.
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
Other than bombs in storage,
Whiteman doesn’t have nuclear capability anymore. When I got there in 1993, they had already pulled all the warheads off the Minuteman missles; when I left in 1997, I think all of the missles were gone, and a good number of the silos had been imploded (explosively collapsed and left uncovered for Russian spy sattelites to verify).
Started off with the 351st Operations Support Sqdn, helping schedule the missileers to man the launch control centers (less critical with nothing really to launch, just monitor the alarms). Got some training to lead tours through the Oscar LCC (the only LCC on an actual CONUS base).
Was there when the first B-2 arrived – fucking Batwing. A weird four years, but worth my time while I was there.
Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.
yeah
that’s actually a Heinlein quote from the 50’s, IIRC.
Problem is, the guys with the keys to the missile silos probably wouldn’t just hand them over. It could be done, but it would be much more complicated than the typical banana republic coup.
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
door into summer, 1956.
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
Ya, it's old and just a joke at this point.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
You're forgetting the UP.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 1:53 AM EST up reply actions
i could use a fresh pasty about now...
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Dude, there's 3 places in the world to get pastys.
Wales, the UP, and my home town (Butte, MT). All of them are underground mining havens.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
also, Colorado Springs
and most cities in California, where you can’t “serve alcohol and have fully nude women” in the same room. Blows my mind.
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
really... I didn't know that.....
I’ve always been asked what’s a pasty anywhere I went. I had no idea they were around CA. Colorado I could see, as it was huge on the underground mining, as well.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Sooooo fucking good.
It appears this is taken from Nancy’s pastys in Butte, my personal favorite.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
although that looks especially delicious,
that is not an almost naked woman. YMMV, of course.
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
oh, you were thinking of pasties.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
pasty (disambiguation)
Definitely wasn’t thinking of a “dry mouth due to a lack of saliva”.
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
I'm confused are you guys talking about
food or that thing janet jackson was wearing at the Super Bowl?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
you can't do that in ohio either
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
there are ways around it, i've had coworkers tell me about
BYOB strip clubs they’ve gone to. i only know where two strip clubs are around here & they are right next to each other. one is full nude & does not serve alcohol & the one next door does serve alcohol so i guess they don’t get naked. they are owned by the same people & the one none nude one opened up after they passed the no alcohol law in the late 90’s.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I thought you were smarter than that,
even when drunk.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
ya, me too.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
HFS
Ken Griffey Jr. was worth 3.2 dWAR in 1996. HFS…
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
and he was (-) over 90 runs on defense
from 2003-2007. Wow.
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
Big Unit's chillin, his landscape's thrillin'.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Mo'fuckers got dealin' and ma bro's got healin'
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
wow, what happened to futureredbids?
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
oh
for some reason mobile theme is stuck in the “on” position
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
mobile theme is actually iOS theme?
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
i haven't been there since Az said they wouldn't have new content up for a few months
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
there were two new posts today
two the last two days
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
well don't i feel like a moran
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
We're back to daily posting
although some of the standard link pages are in desperate need of updating. I might get to that tonight. I’ve said that for the last 2 months though.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
I am the most drunk cardinals fan in the universe
right now
Skip Schumaker is not a scapegoat.
Forsooth and Verily
I'll fight you.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
You'd like that.
I won’t give you the pleasure.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
the only dick I like is my own,
if that makes me a homophobe, so be it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
im pretty pissed right now
Mo YOU HAVE BRYAN FUCKING ANDERSON ON YOUR ROSTER… USE HIS ASS OR TRADE HIM….
meanwhile we get another fucking horrible piece of shit catcher that will probably sink to LaRue levels… actually for reference
LaRue – .196/.274/.321
Laird – .207/.263/.304
Oh, ok that’s cool… I’m going to go get an offensive catcher… Oh wait veteran grittiness is making my penis rise so i must sign a worse hitter even though that means I will have completely lied to the fanbase… no big deal… nothing I haven’t done before… let’s ignore the fact that our starter is already a world-class defender and also right-handed… making an offensive left-handed catcher perfect… but no let’s fuck that up too… why not?
I need a drink
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
perhaps they don't want to rely on Anderson to be the only back up for Yadi
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
dumb strategy
nobody will ever get a chance to play using that except when injuries hit
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
they are worried that he will suck at defense
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
OR
TONY FUCKING LARUSSA is like i don’t want this 23 year old, give me this vet bitch…
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions
from what I understand Bryan Anderson has some defense liabilities
but then again, so does Skip. go figure
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 1:51 AM EST up reply actions
Tony Cruz!!!
obviously Duncan doesn’t like Anderson’s catching ability, but Cruz has really good fielding stats at Catcher from what I can tell.
Also
I just don’t care the slightest bit how good of a hitter a backup catcher is. He won’t pinch hit ever!
nor will he ever bat cleanup
Tony saves that spot for the pitchers
by mattyp on Dec 15, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ok....I'm gonna let you off this time,
but this is late night VEB, and baseball is strictly verboten. Bring your music suggestions, women problems, fan fic,etc, but this is no place for baseball.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
women problems is pretty short
there is a general lack of it…
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well shut up and read,
and you might make it out of the basement sometime soon.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i love talking about baseball on VEB lately
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
what's your opinion of the signing
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions
i think it's a contract for a backup catcher
considering that and considering the other options, i think it’s fine
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck you and all of your boats.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Dec 15, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
sorry, your membership level does not allow you any meme cancellation privileges
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
dude, they tricked you
that’s a pokemon.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
then start singing, CodyG
START SINGING.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
on a related note...
this is pretty awesome
Fire John Mozeliak & Tony LaRussa! (Good luck in Seattle, Boog!)
by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 15, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
i will kick you
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 1:50 AM EST up reply actions
I like depth
even if it’s at the position we’re least likely to need it. As long as we got the moneys, I don’t see a problem with Laird. Plus it’s not like the difference between Laird and Anderson is really all that big, and it’s likely to be minimized by playing time patterns.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" -Isaac Asimov
this is probably not ironic, but here it is
Brendan Ryan will likely be the starting second baseman.
The Wilsons are first up for shortstop.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
6th best org,
can’t even realize when one wilson is done, and the other isn’t as good as the Boog.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
oh come on
with a face like that
?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so is this good or bad for him?
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 15, 2010 1:46 AM EST up reply actions
I have no idea.
we’ll find out when Ichiro takes what he has learned, and puts him in a headlock for the tickle-fight.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i just hope they let him run free & play & spin & jump & run & be the best Boog he can be
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Fuck the Mariners.
Yeah, I said it. They’re on my shitlist right now.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yes, Seattle is dead to me.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
but RR
what about dave duncan?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Chicago!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
you have injected more sadness
into a sad situation
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I could have said Cincinnati.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
thanks to oilspill
that means many other things.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
skyline is some pretty shitty chili
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
did anyone see the A Team movie? was it any good?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
No, I haven't, but I'm guessing, no.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'd rather watch the show.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
why aren't you watching all the movies you admit you haven't seen yet
?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i've been seeing commercials for it all weekend which is why i asked
the previews looked good & AOTS said the DVD was a must buy today.
and i don’t know why i’m not watching them. lack of money probably has something to do with it
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
the previews looked good?!
slaughtering the key tagline cannot be covered up with bad techno.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the one they ran all weekend was totally different than the one they ran in the summer
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
how does slaughtering the tagline change?
that’s dialogue.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i don't remember that happening, what tagline are you talking about?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
back up
have you seen the tv show?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
um, ya, everything i know about life i learned from on 80's & 90's television
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
do you have cable with on demand?
just order it, you never have to pay for those. On an unrelated note, I have to call the cable company tomorrow. They’ve been outrageously overcharging me recently.
no, just dish network for now
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
yes and kinda
it’s a fun action movie but don’t go see it for the script/acting
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
I enjoyed it and more importantly my wife did!
Go see it, should be at the cheap theaters by now.
FYI, there's a bacon/pork special on the cooking channel right now
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
if i ever get another gift, i hope it's a lifetime membership to the bacon of the month club
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I did what I could.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
and don't think i'm not appreciative, i am forever in your debt
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Anybody read this book?
The Emperor of Maladies….kind of morbid, but incredibly fascinating topic. I think I’m gonna get it for my next read.
i guess there's no late night VEB tonight
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
sorry, finals has my attn
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
you gotta have your priorities right man
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
studying is for people who don't know stuff
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 15, 2010 3:11 AM EST up reply actions
i know stuff, kind of, probably, i think, maybe
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
the only thing i can teach is what not to do in this game we call life
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
move to san francisco
become a life coach
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 15, 2010 3:27 AM EST up reply actions
not a bad idea, we do have some SanFran VEB'ers
i’m sure they’d let me crash on their couch till i got settled in
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
true enough
but I really want to learn this stuff, insider trading regs and such. Can’t get around ‘em if you don’t know ‘em. They’re not gonna do me like Martha Stewart (un-fun fact: Martha Stewart would have gotten off scot-free - or at least with merely civil liability - on the insider trading charges but she lied to federal investigators, which is a federal crime under 18 USC 1001. Lessons:
1. Don’t lie to the SEC or US Attorney’s office
2. Martha Stewart is a dumb bitch
here here
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i meant hear hear
dang it. i’m blaming it on finals
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
yes, it is
I can’t decide if the fact that I can’t separate the main character from Tim Watley makes the show better or worse. Probably better.
well bryan craston was just walking around a supermaker naked as an alibi
and i can’t stop laughing
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 15, 2010 3:18 AM EST up reply actions
cranston is awesome first they didn't want him on Malcolm because he was viewed
as a serious actor, then they questioned him being on BB because they said he couldn’t escape the Malcolms dad role
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
i've never seen it, AMC is showing the entire series starting from the beginning on wednesdays
but i missed the first couple weeks of it. i’ve heard it’s a really good show
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I've been using Merlin's Portal to find
content. Not the best, but very easy to navigate. So once you’re set up with a newsgroup (or whatever…hell if I know the terminology) it’s pretty easy.
They cancelled Terriers
I hope you’re all happy. Bet you watched Two and a Half Men or some bullshit instead.
(weeps)
Fire John Mozeliak
Community is the only show I watch
regularly anymore. And Dexter, but the finale was a big letdown. Don’t have time for much else (I type as I casually browse the internet at 3:30 AM)
boardwalk empire was kind of weak too
maybe i’ll just watch the wire again
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 15, 2010 3:31 AM EST up reply actions
really? i thought it was pretty good
sure not Soprano’s good, but for it’s first season i thought it was very good
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
what are they? dea, docks, politics, schools, newspaper?
i’d go with season 2. it got kind of unbelievable when they introduced the no enforcement zones
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 15, 2010 3:38 AM EST up reply actions
nah, Hamsterdam was season 3
and Bunny Colvin is one of the best written television characters I’ve ever seen
i ignore nothing and remember everyhing
bunny colvin was the saving grace of season 3 as far as i’m concerned
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 15, 2010 3:44 AM EST up reply actions
4>1>2>3>>5
My second favorite show of all-time behind Breaking Bad.
I just read through the entire comment section. I’m not really sure if this is an accomplishment. I love Christmas break.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Dec 15, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
my break begins Friday at noon, right after my last exam
have $100 set aside to blow at the bar right after, a 6-pack of Anchor Christmas ale, a six-pack of Anchor porter, 24 case of Harpoon winter, and a handle of Maker’s. Yes, it will be a good break (unless I accidentally drink myself to death, I guess)
I'm past the celebrating phase of being done with finals.
And to the point where no one is in town except those with jobs. VEB, Simpsons DVD’s, and alcohol are the only company I have until at least 5.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Dec 15, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
not a mad men, sons of anarchy, entourage, or weeds fan?
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
entourage - hell no, highest concentration of douchiness on TV
mad men – could bepersuaded, but I don’t want to play catch-up
Sons of Anarchy – heard good things. Distinct possibility
Weeds – Mary-Louis Parker is all kinds of hot. Not enough reason to watch the show though
Kevin Nealon
I just want Flight of the Conchords back
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
I would say the Shield but actually I just love Vic Mackey the rest was filler
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
haven't seen much of anything lately but Perlman is awesome
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
this season wasn't as good as 1 & 2
but that’s because Sutter wanted to do a big back story in Ireland. he says it’s setting up the next 4 or 5 seasons & they’ll be like 1&2.
it’s still the best show on TV
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
it's so formulaic though
they need to bring back tom arnold
that was awesome
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 15, 2010 3:45 AM EST up reply actions
he was great, didn't they kill him off?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
nope. He skipped the country after killing Otto's old lady
that Bobby was banging whilst Otto’s locked up in prison. How could you not like that storyline?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
the SAMCRO thing is awesome
I like Ryan Hurst a lot have enjoyed what I have seen
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
i love Opie, Tig is my favorite character though
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I'm just going to rewatch LOST on a loop until I die
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
maybe by the end of your life you could figure out a better ending to it
"as long as it agrees with my argument, yes" vivaelpujols
I'm enjoying watching it the second time due to the fact
that I know the ending. I think knowing the ending helps me to appreciated the plot development more and in turn appreciated the ending more. Almost every episode has some random easter egg or a line or two that foreshadows 3-4 seasons down the road. It’s actually jaw dropping to think they had a general storyboard for the whole series from the beginning
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i don't get why everyone dying at the end helps the show
of course i stopped watching pretty early on in the series because it got really confusing & there were other shows on at the same time i’d rather watch
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
the important thing to remember when watching lost
is that the mysteries of the island matter much less than the characters. This will help you enjoy the show much more
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
it was just so confusing, i ddn't get 90% of it
i thought it was just about surviving a plane crash & getting back to society, not a supernatural island with smoke monsters & time travel
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
yeah i can understand that
That’s why I think I’m enjoying it so much more the second time around, cause I know all the answers to the weird mysteries and I can focus more on the mythology and quasi-religious subjects in the show.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Game of Thrones
FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 15, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
really!?! i was under the impression that was going to be years away
i am pleasantly surprised
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 15, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Starts in January.
As does season 2 of Archer on FX which I cannot recommend highly enough.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
i'm embarrassed to say i had forgotten about archer
i can’t think of a more underrated entertainer than h. jon benjamin
he’s like zach galifianakis but 6 years ago
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 15, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
He's voicing the titular character to the new FOX animated comedy
Bob’s Burgers. I will likely watch that show a few times given that it’s going to follow Family Guy.
PS – Is The Cleveland Show the most racist show on TV today? I absolutely cannot get past the blatant stereotyping on that show.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
Boondocks is awesome
racist as hell, but awesome
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I think they're trying to garner the KotH crowd
the comedy lines are very similar, or at least much closer than other McFarlane shows
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
can't freakin wait!
I will subscribe to cable just to see this show!
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
welcome to last week dude
i don’t know why people didn’t watch that, it wasn’t the greatest show, but it had a lot of heart & was very interesting. i can’t believe only 750K watched it every week.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
no its coming back i think next month
on hiatus while amy poehler had her baby
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
she's a baby momma for real now!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
...did you sleep last night?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
paging mysterui's mom
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
nope
you?
well, i slept from 7pm to 10pm last night so not a total all nighter
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
oh nvm
you’re all graduated and stuff
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Uhhh well I passed out drunkenly from 9:30 to 11:30. Then stayed up until like 4:00 watching Modern Family
Then slept until 6:30 to drive my friend to the airport.
Going back to sleep…….. now
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
alright VEB, i need you're help
i’m looking for a short film where it’s Lego’s fighting in one big epic battle. it kind of looks like there are scenes from the matrix & other movies, tv shows & video games. there’s lots of guns, bombs & blood. there’s a lot on youtube, but not the one i’m looking for. there’s no voices, it’s just a bunch of lego’s killing each other & at the end the last lego standing kills himself.
i’ve looked everywhere for it & i can’t find it. if there’s one thing i’ve learned, VEB can find anything
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
where'd you see it?
is it from the animation show? sounds mike judge-y
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 15, 2010 3:42 AM EST up reply actions
saw it on red eye, they showed clips of it & it was awesome but they didn't say where it was from
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Ok...Google hearts VEB.
When I type “lego baseball cardinals” into a Google Video search 5 of the first 10 results are Matt Holliday highlights.
Brendan Ryan is no longer a St. Louis Cardinal.
Fortunately, Aaron Miles isn't either.
CJ Beatty is substitute teaching today
Oh, to be a fly on the wall.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
DUDE KIDS YOU GUYS NEED TO LEARN ABOUT HOW AWESOM THA MCGIRDDLES IS
SRSLY……. PUT AWAY YOUR TEXTBOOKS, WE GOIN TO MCDS
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Dec 15, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you forgot the "LMBO"
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Mariners trying to trade Aardsma
couldn’t we have just traded boog for him?
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 16, 2010 1:41 AM EST reply actions
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