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A Giants Blogger Post-World Series

Grant, the blog-king of McCovey Chronicles, was kind enough to answer a few questions from me during the week. The Giants were never my favorite team in the post season and I'm not sure they had the best roster for a 162 game season, but, much like the 2006 Cardinals, they were the best team in the post season and that's something that can never be taken away from them.  Congrats to the San Francisco Giants on winning the World Series and thanks to Grant for taking the time to answer my questions.

Star-divide

 

1) I find that I recall each of the Cardinals recent post-season appearances as being encapsulated by a single event. 2004 had the baserunning blunder of Jeff Suppan. 2006 had Adam Wainwright striking out Carlos Beltran and 2009 had the misplay by Matt Holliday in LF. Was there a moment during the three series that encapsulated the Giants post-season?

Jonathan Sanchez getting yanked in the third inning of Game Six of the NLCS is the one that sticks out to me. Sanchez was melting into a puddle of goo in front of a national audience, and Bruce Bochy made the decision to pull him. With two runners on and no outs, Jeremy Affeldt got three straight outs without allowing a runner to score. The Giants didn't give up a run for the rest of the game.

It was one of only two iffy starts in the entire postseason run, and the bullpen came in and completely shut the door for the remaining seven innings. The Giants asked for a Band-Aid, and they received some sort of advanced stem cell treatment. Or if that's not a good enough analogy, you can put that Jeremy Affeldt rubbed his hands together in a Miyagi-like fashion and healed the Giants enough to where they could kick more Cobra Kai in the face.

Wait, let me start over.

2) For years, the criticism of Brian Sabean has been similar to the criticism Cardinals fans have leveled at our GM and manager: a disproportionate preference for veteran players. Is this characterization accurate and how did the 2010 roster construction play out in this regard?

Sabean prefers veterans to an uncomfortable degree. Bruce Bochy prefers them to an irrational degree. I sincerely doubt that Bochy was the one clamoring for Bengie Molina to be traded.

But, heck, it led to a World Series. There was a piece in The Hardball Times years ago explaining that veterans might be an undervalued commodity, and when the Giants made the playoffs on the strength of Pat Burrell and won three rounds of playoffs with the contributions of Cody Ross -- both of whom were just given away -- it's easy to agree.

When you give Bochy an unambiguous lineup, he's a fantastic manager. When you allow him to create a lineup based on who he thinks are good hitters, he'll do things like play Jose Guillen over Cody Ross. Once Guillen was left off the postseason roster, Bochy didn't have a lot of ways to futz up the lineup -- the veterans he had deserved to play over their younger counterparts. Hopefully Sabean recognizes this and removes the temptations of Randy Winn-type players in the future.

3) The Giants graduated Buster Posey and Madison Bumgarner to the majors this year and both were a rousing success and an important part of the postseason. Who is the next big prospect that the Giants have in their system?

Brandon Belt is a first baseman who just pummeled the California and Eastern Leagues. He was a fifth-round pick, the Giants tweaked his swing, and now he's Rod Carew, but, like, a billion times better. The poet in me likes to think a coach walked up and said something like, "Say, Brandon, did you ever think about not closing your eyes when you swing?"

Belt might be ready next year, or he might not, but his presence makes this offseason a little weird. Should the Giants commit to Aubrey Huff with Belt around? If so, for how long? One year? Two? It's an interesting predicament.

4) Edgar Renteria won the World Series MVP this year. In 2006, David Eckstein won for the Cardinals to the consternation of some parts of the fanbase. Without taking away anything from Renteria, would he have been your MVP for the series?

It's tough to choose between him and Lincecum, but I think Edgar was the right call. He untied two of the four Series wins with completely unexpected home runs, and his defense was sound.

5) What's the single biggest decision facing the Giants this offseason?

How best to roll around in a puddle of our own self-satisfaction. Mmmmmm.

Also, they need to figure out what's going on with Pablo Sandoval. He was the great organizational hope last offseason, and this offseason the Giants almost have to pretend that they aren't going to get anything from him next year. There has to be a way to monitor his diet and workout regiment over the winter.  They've already told him he could be riding buses in Fresno next year -- if that doesn't motivate a guy, who knows what will?

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i still can't believe Los Gigantes won the damn World Series

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 7, 2010 1:09 AM EDT reply actions  

they won, on pitching and "clutch" hitting

or if it was lucky, it was quite great timing

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 7, 2010 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

their defense was also timely

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 7, 2010 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

me either, and the matchup was even more amazing

who would have pictured the rangers against the giants in the world series before the season started? not only that, but those two teams beat the favorites (the yanks and phils, respectively) to get there.

by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 7, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks for interviewing for VEB, grant.

Really good info here. Congrats to you and everybody in SF and at MCC for a great championship. The series was a lot of fun to watch.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Nov 7, 2010 1:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Breeder's Cup: Awesome

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 7, 2010 1:47 AM EDT reply actions  

i hate horse racing

and im glad to say that i have no idea what happened…

personally, horse racing is like a more boring version of NASCAR except in that case the competitors are racing willfully

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 7, 2010 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, horseracing is uberlame

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 7, 2010 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Horse Racing is slightly more interesting than NASCAR

but only because they have the betting windows at the track. With a a few dollars on a horse I actually have some interest in who wins, unlike NASCAR.

by NCSaluki on Nov 7, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I love to watch horse racing...

it’s just nice to watch the horses run… granted I’m also the person that if I’m flipping channels and see horse jumping will watch that til the end…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 7, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

on edge much?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 7, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

i have bit my tongue for months, there's only so much stupidity i can take

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 7, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't pay much attention to horse racing

but I do enjoy watching it. Live is even better. The Zenyatta race was pretty intense. All the build up. The terrible start. The INSANE push at the finish. It got me out of my seat cheering.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 7, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I love horse racing

but missed the Breeder’s Cup this year. Damn. Spent the spring of my high school senior year going to Pimlico (where they run the Preakness) almost every day with a group of my friends. Fell in love with horse racing when I was 15, watching Secretariat destroy the fields in the Triple Crown races, then Ruffian in ’75, Seattle Slew in ’77, Affirmed and Alydar in ’78. Spent most of the summer of ’75 going to Cahokia Downs when I came back to St. Louis to work, and my old school friends dragged me there 2-3 times a week. Did not come home that summer with much left in my pocket.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 7, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

bullpen's are underrated

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 7, 2010 2:06 AM EDT reply actions  

thanks to daylight savings (at least on my timezone)

you posted 41 minutes earlier than mysterui yet come after him on the comment sections

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 7, 2010 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's how we do it, dammit

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 7, 2010 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

bored so i'm looking at Stan Musial's b-ref page

the question isn’t what has stan musial led the league in, its how many times has he led the league – he’s led the league in:

GP (5), PA (2), AB, Rs (5), hits (6), 2B (8), 3B (8), RBI (2), BB (1), BA (7), OBP (6), SLUG (6), OPS (7), OPS+ (6), TB (6), HBP (1), and IBB (2)

he hasn’t led the league in HRs, Ks, GIDP, or SBs (2 of those are negative)

And if Albert wants to stop being called the Man like Musial then he has to stop being so damn similar – both have an OPS+ of 172 through their age 30 seasons

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 7, 2010 3:03 AM EDT reply actions  

the ego and/or body of Pu

leads me to conclude (objectively) he will never pass Musial, at least statistically. I can’t see Albert playing that long, especially not three consecutive years of hitting below .300, and allow himself to be basically a platoon player in his twilight years.
In short, Albert will quit (ego) or be forced to retire (body) before he would put up annual lines like Musial did four of his last five seasons. (Twice Stash finished with .255, the injury-plagued ‘59 campaign and his swansong year, ’63)
At my age, I have a foot in both doors, and I adore both players. I will even concede that Pujols is a better player than Stan was, as incredible as that sounds and continues to overwhelm me. My only point is he won’t have the longevity; partly the ‘different era’ thing, but also, I reason, the ego/body aspect.
Lastly, re Musial’s increasingly gotten ‘criticism’ for hitting few home runs: he currently stands 28th all-time, and of those 27 ahead of him 14 player AFTER he did (era), nine were roughly contemporaries, and four played before him, Not too shabby..

by the Tewk on Nov 7, 2010 9:05 AM EST reply actions  

bye bye westy

so, who do we want, garland?

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Nov 7, 2010 10:45 AM EST reply actions  

say what?

last i saw, the Cards were optimistic about signing him.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 7, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

they have had weeks to do something, and didn't

now its open season on FAs

will anyone pay him more than jmo/bdw
i suspect so

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Nov 7, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Jake Westbrook: Cards optimistic about retaining Westbrook
Although GM John Mozeliak said no deal was “imminent,” the Cardinals are increasingly optimistic about retaining free agent Jake Westbrook.
The deal reportedly would be for two years with an option for a third year. Westbrook pitched well down the stretch for the Cardinals this past season, and staying in the National League and under the tutelage of Dave Duncan is ideal for him. It’s a good fit for both teams, and it sounds as though the likelihood of something getting worked out is high. Nov. 7 – 8:40 am et

Rotoworld link, P-D source

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 7, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I say we lock up Westy very early

then have him talk his old buddy Cliff Lee into coming to the Cards…on the cheap.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 7, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

so we can put Lee in the bullpen

cause no room in the rotation

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 7, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

the point is that it's not gonna happen

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 7, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, the van broke down

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Shouldn't have went with the 1984 Dodge Caravan...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 7, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

closer lee

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 7, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

he'll be closing the last three innings every other night

i like it

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 7, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

do you really

blocks brian wilson

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

(sigh)

sadly, there’s no room for a personality like that on our roster

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 7, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

sure there is

The Cat probably lies awake at night wishing he could interview him every day

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

there is no way in hell

Wilson will fit in a clubhouse with alphas like Carpenter, Pujols and LaRussa without a major clash. Also, the Cat won’t be able to handle him

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 7, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

he doesn't have to fit into the clubhouse

just the bullpen

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

It’s why the ’pen is actually fenced in and far away from the rest of the team.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 7, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

is it to keep the crazy out... or keep the crazy in!!!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

and that's how Jim Hayes likes it.

didn’t you know

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually feel like Wilson would be ok with such alphas...

I’m not too sure why, but CDGAFAB

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 7, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

someone described him as like Stephen Colbert

a nice guy, but also almost always playing “Stephen Colbert”

I have a feeling he and Boog would be BFFs.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Watching NFL Countdown makes me long for Sunday day games...

hustle back Cardinals.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 7, 2010 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

cue my sig

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 7, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Az, why didn't you ask Grant

if we can have Brian Wilson?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 7, 2010 12:19 PM EST reply actions  

Adios, Pags Lite.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Nov 7, 2010 1:06 PM EST reply actions   4 recs

I saw it on Twitter but can't find a link

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 7, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

In the link above

Strauss P-D article

The Cardinals on Friday tipped their hand about their plans for a backup catcher when they waived longtime organizational staple Matt Pagnozzi, who will now become a minor-league free agent.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 7, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Also:
Pagnozzi drew praise in September for his ability to handle a veteran staff, previously considered enough for the team’s backup catcher. This winter the club intends to seek more from the role after Jason La Rue announced he would retire following three years in the role. Left unsaid is a desire for the next backup to take on more of the catching load; Yadier Molina has ended the last three seasons with knee issues.


“I think we may change our model there,” Mozeliak said. “I don’t think we can look at the backup from solely a catch-and-throw standpoint. We need to consider offense, too.”

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 7, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Amusing that Strauss can actually report when he isn't grinding his axes.

Also, P-D comments are fun!

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 7, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Dear Mo,

DUH! You’re backup catcher isn’t a place holder. He’s an actual baseball player who has to hit and play baseball well sometimes, just not as much as the starter. Obviously he won’t be an offensive beast and a defensive machine or else he’d be a starter… but having some guy like Jason LaRue and Matt Pagnozzi isn’t a good way to go either because then, just win games, Molina has to play a TON! The backup simply cannot be an incompetent bat.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 7, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Poop

Your fail…. damn.

VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009

by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 7, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I've had this thought many times

and this is a good example. Maybe this is the beginning of his plan to put Anderson onto the roster?

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Nov 7, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

if he felt so strongly about it

he could have just not called him up.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Nov 7, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

i know he's gone

but why the fuck do terrible hitting catchers automatically get credit for standing behind home plate and catching the ball?

what the fuck does handling the pitching staff even mean? i’m so glad i don’t have to listen to this crap at the beginning of spring training anymore

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 7, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

calling the game means

maximizing the pitchers strengths against the batters weakness so the pitcher doesn’t have to think about what to throw. Just throw whatever the catcher calls where he calls it.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Nov 7, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm not ready to type 'balls of steel' yet

but i remain hopeful

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

it seems to be past 'Balls of Silly Putty'

that’s a start

Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)

by mattyfrommo on Nov 7, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm...

I wonder if Stephen Hill is going to get a serious look in camp next spring. He just finished AA ball, but the “offense” is there, methinks.

by JWO on Nov 7, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

veb flashback

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/8/15/1624298/game-116-open-thread-lohse-returns#44465006

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes...

He did get his cup of coffee. But does Cardinals management see him as the answer for the backup catcher spot next year?

by JWO on Nov 7, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

uuuuuhhhhh his beard is awesome?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

You can't fool me

You scooped Strauss and you’re holding out on us. Let me guess, you’ll post a tweet at midnight announcing the latest. ;-)

by JWO on Nov 7, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

the end of daylight savings has effed me up

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I want this to happen!

so I can get a Hill cardinals t-shersey. Either that or for us to trade for Aaron Hill, even though I’m pretty sure he’s under team control and wont happen.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 7, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

....so the Hills can fight to the pain?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

mainly just so I can get a Hill cardinals jersey without having to custom make one.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 7, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Princess Bride reference?

Why?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 8, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

why not

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

i can't think of a reason why not

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Nov 8, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

awesome!

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 7, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

it's like christmas in november!

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Nov 7, 2010 1:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

sounds like Mozeliak has his work cut out for him

rotoworld sidebar:

- Cardinals want to have a platoon of Jay and Craig in RF

- they want to retain Jake Westbrook

- they want a middle infield upgrade

- they want to sign a plus offense backup catcher (wat?)

- they want to sign a left-handed reliever

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 7, 2010 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

http://www.prorumors.com/2010/11/rumors/cardinals-working-on-two-year-deal-with-jake-westbrook

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 7, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

their window exclusive ended last night

now we clearly have to outbid others, which seems unlikely

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Nov 7, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

also

- they want to cure cancer and aids by christmas
- they want to save the world
- they want world peace
- they want clean water and no more hunger in africa
- they want to lower taxes
- they want romeo and juliet to live happily ever after

i am guessing a lot of what they want has nothing to do with that is really going to happen

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 7, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

the only thing they really want is lower taxes, the rest is just PR

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 7, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Nice.

"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy

by hazel on Nov 7, 2010 10:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

no politics?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 7, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm... plus offensive catcher...

where can i possibly find a plus offensive catcher…. hmmm…. let’s see….

BRYANANDERSONBRYANANDERSONBRYANANDERSON

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 7, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

it's like he's hiding in plain sight.

mo has checked behind the couch, under the table, and in that nook below the staircase, and meanwhile bryan anderson has been standing next to him the whole time.

"When all's been said and done, I can say that all has been said and done."
-Steve "Lips" Kudlow, of Anvil

by redbird brain on Nov 7, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

unexpected anderson is unexpected?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Mentioned it above as well

Stephen Hill on the Springfield Cardinals might warrant a look-see.

by JWO on Nov 7, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

you forgot

-albert wants an extension signed before the season starts

by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 7, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I will eat my laptop if Tony allows someone who started at AA last season

to be the backup catcher

Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)

by mattyfrommo on Nov 7, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't see him accepting Anderson either.

Mo has his work cut out for him.

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Nov 7, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

and obviously this was supposed to be a reply to JWO

Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)

by mattyfrommo on Nov 7, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the idea of Steven Hill

he’s old enough that he needs to be in the majors and back-up catcher sounds like exactly what he’s made to do.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 7, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

My only concern

Is whether he needs another year of seasoning in Memphis. But given the Cardinals needs this winter, I think the low-cost option makes the most sense. I would be a happy camper if Hill goes into ST at least as the proverbial favorite for backup.

by JWO on Nov 7, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I've been in Louisiana for the last 10 days

Few in New Orleans, a few out on the bayou . But I did not have internet access. Miss any cardinals news?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Nov 7, 2010 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

joey bombs to atlanta

gagz bye bye
still no signing of westy
joe strauss is an asshat
that’s pretty much it

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 7, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Poor Bombs

Poor Boog. oh well. Hopefully his wrist will be healed this year and he can crack a roster.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Nov 7, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

the way this is going

Boog may be on his way out too

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 7, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe they'll keep him as a defensive replacement if they sign a shortstop

I hope they sign a 2b though

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 7, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Second this.

Nothing so far portends either a bad offseason OR a Boog departure.

Boog’s own quotes are typical Boog.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 7, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah whoa hold the phone wat

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Response to d-dee

This quote from 11/3:

"There are some things that need to change and that’s probably going to be offensively," Ryan said. "There’s no guarantee that I’ll be back. I don’t know. I really hope I am. I understand it’s a business and I’m going into arbitration here so things could happen but I just don’t know.

FSMW link

That reads like Boog being Boog.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 7, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

i must've been drunk that day

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

It was a BJ Rains report

You might have made some assumptions…

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 7, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

i usually read his

because some players haven’t figured out how to get rid of him from under their doormats
he has one skill: transcribing quotes

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

the most recent tv interview Mo did with FSNMW

indicated that there’s absolutely no guarantee that they won’t sign a bat a short
and pretty much anything in the MI (but 1B) is up for grabs

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 7, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Has anyone used the cliche

“Bombs Away” yet? If not, I got dibs.

by JWO on Nov 7, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

i believe the actual article breaking the news did

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 7, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

note to self

no one reads fanshots

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Forte!

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 7, 2010 2:51 PM EST reply actions  

MCC
I answered a few questions for Viva el Birdos, and not one of them referenced Candy Maldonado’s flying burrito. I regret that now.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

wtf is he talking about?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 7, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

1988 brawl ...

Maldonado batting, Will Clark tried to take out Jose Oquendo at 2nd with a nasty slide, Ozzie bitch-slapped Clark, Maldonado leaped at Ozzie – a move known to wrestlilng aficionados as a “flying burrito”

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Nov 7, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

When i read this

I read Jose Canseco not Oquendo, when led me to assume Ozzie Canseco slapped clark. Made for a very confusing story.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 7, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Went looking for video (a long shot) and found nothing.

But did find this book link covers the 1988 brawl and this quote from Red, regarding Chili “They’re a Cowtown” Davis:

He’s so dumb, he thinks milk comes from ants.

Red Freakin’ Schoendienst.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 7, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

is there video of this somewhere?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 7, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

they drag it up on FSM every couple seasons

Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)

by mattyfrommo on Nov 7, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

It really was a bitch slap. Clark and Ozzie.

There was no danger of anyone getting hurt. hehehe Caused a lot of hard feelings for a while, but when Clark came to town, all was forgiven.

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Nov 7, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

It was on youtube last August.

Link got pulled by MLB, though. Way to understand marketing, Major League Baseball.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 7, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I love that name.

Such a great baseball name.

by spants on Nov 7, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

ok i actually knew about the brawl...

and knew about the “flying burrito” reference. But both were from my deep childhood and i wasn’t sure why either were familiar. Weird.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 7, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

when do we start betting on how long this marriage will last?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 7, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe she just likes collecting big engagement rings

not her first
i guess we bought 9 starts and a who-knows-how-many-carats diamond for 7.5 mil ….
(sigh)

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 7, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

make it green

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 7, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

a non-star with a non-pitcher, hence my non-interest

other than the cards probably paid for that damm ring. Maybe they could start their own reality tv show. How to make money while not working. Or Life On the DL.

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Nov 7, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

lulz @ Life On the DL

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 7, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

"Yo yo, what up its Marky Mulder, you 'bout to get an inside look at how we do it up on the DL"

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 7, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Hey I just heard on NPR that the "Miner Boog "

ran the NYC marathon today. He finished with ice packs strapped to his knees and trained for it while trapped underground for all those days.

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"

Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."

by riftraftredbird on Nov 7, 2010 5:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

i thought miner boog was the second guy out

elvis guy (that guy) came out later…

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Idk I'm too busy selling beer and avocados

I heard " charasmaric" and thought it be booooog yo. My bad

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"

Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."

by riftraftredbird on Nov 7, 2010 6:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

i think medic miner is the same as cheatin' miner

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy Crap

I just watched an advance screening of “Tangled,” Disney’s new movie based on Rapunzel

1) If you have kids, take them to go see it
2) If you don’t have kids, take a member of the opposite sex to go see it
3) If you have no member of the opposite sex to go see it with, eat bacon and drink bourbon
4) You HAVE HAVE HAVE to see it in 3D. Best usage of the technology since Avatar. I was honestly in awe the entire movie on how beautiful it is

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 7, 2010 5:15 PM EST reply actions  

I'm glad it wasn't screwed up

I really liked the teaser images but the trailer seemed a little too Hip and With-It for my tastes.

by DanUpBaby on Nov 7, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean, it was a little bit formulaic as a Disney Princess Movie

But it was very, very funny

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 7, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

can't wait for Tron

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 7, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

#3 it is then

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 7, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

who's gonna pay for that bacon and bourbon?

do you have to go whore yourself out to blind chicks again?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 7, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

chicks?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 7, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

do i need to explain the concept?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 7, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

you wait until *after* to...

never mind

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

speaking of Disney movies

the Disney version of the World Series
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/11/6/1797368/what-is-this-i-dont-even

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

how far back in the archives are you already, 2008?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 7, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

why, are you ahead?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

i had no intention of hanging out there past the parade

did you buy a giants hat already?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 7, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm still on the parade

just looking for more shots

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

besides, if I didn't dig through there, I'd miss gems like this:

because it’s in the handegg section

…I enjoyed this e-mail from a Cubbies fan named Sal in San Rafael: “Here in World Series-Drought Saloon, it’s always bittersweet watching one of the regulars stream out the door in a giddy flurry. First it was Red Sox Guy, then White Sox Guy, and now … congrats, Giants Guy, we’ll miss you. Savor the moment. And Indians Guy, get out your wallet, we need to buy Rangers Guy another shot. It’s starting to get depressing in here. Cheers.”

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That is fantastic.

Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.

by The Continental on Nov 7, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

It's nice to see there are Cub fans who realize how pathetic their situation truly is.

Good Luck Sal. Have you thought about changing teams. The Cardinals can always use more fans.

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Nov 8, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I live with a walking 2yo disney princess

So, not much chance of me missing it. Looks good though.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Nov 7, 2010 7:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I have to say that the best implemented 3D was "Jackass 3D"

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 7, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, that was pretty amazing

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 7, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

It's the only 3D movie I ever plan on seeing...

but it seemed like they only used it when they needed it, and didn’t get too overboard making everything in 3D.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 7, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

You guys are what's wrong with America

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 7, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Supporting hilarious movies...

I know… such gall…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 7, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

i believe mysterui supports the idea of high art enriching culture

he will now post the comment “boobs”

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Eccentrica Gallumbits was the best 3D ever.

Full. Circle.

Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.

by The Continental on Nov 7, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

My life is ruled by coincidence.

I’ve been watching the new Sherlock Holmes on PBS this evening with my family. I knew that the actor that plays Watson, Martin Freeman, was in Love Actually, but I had totally forgotten that he was Arthur Dent in the ‘05 version of Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, until I went googling Eccentrica Gallumbits. My life…co-inkiedinks. I’d say S/He is trying to tell me something, but I’m an atheist, so I’m deaf.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 8, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Fuck high art

I never claimed to be a fan of high art

I just wish that there was some correlation between quality of work and commercial success. I don’t care if Jackass does well at the box office, really. I care that it did better than “Nowhere Boy.”

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 7, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Stuff that appeals

to the lowest common denominator will always succeed. Hence the term lowest common denominator… I mean Justin Beiber is selling how many albums and that stuff is the dreck of the lowest order…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 7, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Well duh

That’s what I’m bitching about

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 7, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm basically attempting to say

you can’t fix stupid… but in a really crappy way… I’m still trying to recover from having the Illinois football team rip my heart out and take a dump on it again yesterday…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I came to USC at the exactly wrong time

I know about football heartbreak, sir

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

You don't know football heartbreak...

You haven’t gone through two 0-11 seasons… I dont’ want to hear it… That said I’d rather have 0-11 cause I can just write off the team as awful and not care about it so much… yesterday when I was hoarse from yelling so much that I had to start holding my larynx so I could yell more without it cracking and ended the day sounding like I smoked a carton only to have the team take such a huge dump on defense… that’s something I can’t deal with… the illusion of good teams only to rip my heart out again…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

0-11 isn't heartbreak... your team just sucks

Losing to Stanford when you’re 42 point favorites and when you’re on the road to the national championship is heartbreak.

Repeat x2

And then the bowl ban

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I never said it was heartbreak...

At least you have good times to remember… I’ve had two years where we’ve been rewarded with a home bowl game for the other team… it’s been fantastic.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

False

This

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Nah the first one was 1000 times better...

we should have tried that for the 3OT 2-pt play… Michigan’s defense was bad enough that’d totally have worked.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I personally don't mind Jackass

It’s an excuse to get drunk and laugh your ass off for 2 hours without having to think about anything.

What I HATE is crap like Inception and The Town – boring action movies which portend to be something better and and require your full attention with no payoff. That’s what’s really wrong with America – the fact that the “high art” has now been degraded to pretty much close the least common denominator.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 7, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

You hate Inception and The Town more than Saw 3D? Which also did well, by the way

What is a movie that you’ve seen lately, that was hyped up, that you liked?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 7, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Shutter Island,

Scott Pilgrim, A Serious Man.

Those are the three movies (out of like 8) that I’ve liked in the past year. I’m not sure how hyped up they were.

Saw 3D is terrible (I’m sure, I haven’t seen it), but again, it’s not trying to be an intelligent or quality movie. Inception was – people were fucking comparing Nolan to Kubrick because of it.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 8, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Scott Pilgrim was badass

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Scott Pilgrim and Red

there was another but I can’t remember at this hour…

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I disagree

the “middlebrow” in American culture is increasingly receding into the background, and I think that’s something to be very concerned about. There aren’t enough movies like Inception.

People on the “lowbrow” side have stopped valuing that which pretends to be something better and people on the “highbrow” side have decided their fellows are worthy of contempt. I worry as a writer that literary fiction is going to go the way of poetry, into incestuous self-congratulation and away from the desire to reach people who aren’t themselves poets/writers/filmmakers.

Certainly it bothers me when something that aspires to be high art isn’t, and other people disagree with my own judgment on it, but as much as Avatar‘s misanthropy-disguised-as-message made me want to throw up I think there’s a need for something to fill that role.

by DanUpBaby on Nov 8, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Wherein DanUp argues a point much more poignantly than mysterui

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

what's his name doesn't believe in animation

despite all his work standing on the shoulders of a century of American animation. link

somthing, sure, but I like it when culture doesn’t try to eat itself.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

oh, I don't like avatar anyway

but I couldn’t fit my distaste for james cameron into my argument

by DanUpBaby on Nov 8, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

That article, to me, seemed to be making a big deal about a difference in definitions

Some think “animated” means a cartoon. Some have a broader definition

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

it's a big deal.

animation is NOT a genre. Americans just believe it is. every other country in the world has all-ages animation, and it’s a huge problem for animators trying to find work in this country if there’s only one “acceptable” format.

which is a fucking shame given that animation was pioneered in the U.S.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Seth McFarlane aside, given that he does 3 frames for an entire scene.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

There's a decent amount of animation that's not kid related...

Just doesn’t seem to run for very long…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Simpsons?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Stuff that's had a good long run...

Simpsons, Family Guy, King of the Hill, sure I’m forgetting some.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Stuff that was good but had a short run

Clone High, Undergrads

Crap forgot about Daria for having a decent run… loved that show.

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by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

do the math on how long ago Daria was.

and that’s your cultural growth right there….

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

It ran til like 03 right?

The funny thing is how good of a show Daria was on the same network that now runs all kinds of shows about 15 year olds who got knocked up… I’m really starting to worry that Idiocracy was a spot on prediction rather than satire…

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by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

they only run those shows because parents don't talk about it otherwise

we can’t discuss anything unless it’s shown on tv

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Granted I'm not a parent

or anywhere close so I may be speaking out of turn here… but if I don’t have enough time to talk to my daughter about not getting knocked up in high school I’ve done an awful job as a parent and should probably do jail time for turning a crappy citizen loose on society.

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by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

On the other hand

If you had a teenage son you probably wouldn’t appreciate parents telling their daughters not to get knocked up in high school.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 8, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

There's a difference

between not getting knocked up and not getting laid…

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by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

True dat

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

There was a QC guy in the field

I was talking to and he said about how some of the people his daughter’s age got knocked up… and his comment to her was “They don’t know how to have sex”

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by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I will let xkcd do the talking for me

but since it doesn’t fit so well, i’m going to link to it instead.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
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by purple_haze on Nov 8, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

fair enough

I just get tired of being surrounded by idiots…

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by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe theyre tired of being surrounded by you

FATTY.

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Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 8, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Nice

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

If I wouldn't get so winded walking up the stairs

out of my parent’s basement I’d totally kick your ass for that comment.

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by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I loved king of the hill

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Really?

I thought it was boring as hell, although I haven’t seen it in like 4 years.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 8, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

People I respect seem to like the show very much

I have the same opinion as you, though I suspect it’s because you a show you actually need to WATCH

KotH and Family Guy are on at the same times, and with Family Guy, I’m usually drunk and/or deliriously tired at 1:00 AM and it tells me exactly when I should find things funny and when to laugh

I’m guessing KotH is more subtle

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I always felt

that King of the Hill probably did well with people who grew up in small towns and we could pick out people we know in the characters… where as people who grew up in the city or suburbs probably didn’t know those guys and couldn’t relate.
 Kinda like my buddy who grew up in Evanston doesn’t really get Dazed and Confused and my buddy who grew up in Rural Indiana and I who grew up in cornfields myself love it.

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by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

it wasn't as funny as, say, the simpsons at its best

but I loved the empathetic way it had with its characters.

by DanUpBaby on Nov 8, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Wasn't Colby Rasmus on that show?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

i note you said decent amount, not decent

even the simplest in-betweener jobs are sent overseas. then you watch the 1950s studio shorts, and realize that was all hand-drawn and no computers were involved.

animation now is the equivalent of MS Paint.

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

it's the equivalent of an entire generation of pitchers being unable to throw a curve ball.

two or three generations, really. there’s a great deal of skills-loss, and some of it is irreplaceable. and again, the saddest part is it was all developed in this country.

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I just watched the Behind the Scenes

of Aladdin last night. It was really interesting hearing them talk about how they were just starting to use CGI in animation then. The Flying carpet was actually part CGI. I had no clue. The design on the carpet was CGI, but the movement of the rug was hand-drawn.
It was also kind of sad to hear them talk about how they were so excited then to use the computer for it, while i’m watching it knowing that they all probably don’t have jobs now because of it.

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1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

there was so much potential when CGI came along

and there were some spurts of progress.

but lots of it got gobbled up. most guys have moved over to the all-CG houses ….. but only because the jobs are there.

the trouble is the backsliding came from using the CG to program movement. most of the movement you see is pre-programmed. walk command, run command, etc. so again, a lot of the skills from hand-drawn were lost.

CG’s not necessarily bad — it’s using it to make sloppy short-cuts that really did it. so now really cool programming is lauded, and I go see and it’s sloppy, stilted motion.

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

actually that isn't really true

those commands you’re refering to really only exist in video games, all computer animation, be it pixar movies or special effects, are most definitely done by “hand.” programs just aren’t able to create the subtle necessary to fool the eye.

there’s way more jobs in animation today than, say 15 years ago. the only thing that sucks is now there is a technical requirement to get into the business. as the industry shifted, it lost an entire generation of animators who couldn’t make the transition.

and i promise you contemporary animators haven’t lost their hand drawing skills =)

by YesWeOquendo on Nov 8, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm talking about the whole industry, not just the handful of houses doing well.

and there are still uncanny valley moments in the best CG movies. I suppose I’m oversimplifying it for the sake of explanation, but programming the wire-frames still means messing around with it till it works, instead of composing a shot. lord, the shot composition in media that’s supposed to give the creator 100% control? there’s no way everything transitioned through. it looks poor, and most critics don’t even know the difference anymore.

there’s hand-drawing skills, and there’s hand-drawing skills. fluidity of motion. crisp comic timing. those are the ones I’m talking about. i’m not saying they’re not artists, I’m saying the judgment calls — the art — are terribly inconsistent and lacking in direction.

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you work in the film industry?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

and more jobs doesn't mean more job stability

last I checked, Cartoon Network doesn’t believe in animation anymore, either.

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah it's funny how some money in the coffers

will change the basis of a network… see music channels…

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by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

it's like everything else...

if the studios can pay someone 14 cents an hour versus 30 bucks and hour they’ll make that decision 900 times out of 100

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by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

unpaid overtime is a favorite, I hear.

there is a potential for underground work by individual artists, thanks to the internets. but that’s far, far removed from the heyday of large teams churning out good quality pieces.

unless it’s overseas.

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I see the same thing going on in my work

as a civil engineer we do all of our plans in CAD now… the result is that if anyone has to sketch anything by hand it looks like deep fried hell. I remember when I was telling someone older that I was a civil engineer and she said how she loves to read civil engineer’s hand writing… mine is awful since I never had to learn to write in draft script…

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by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I suppose a better analogy

were if they decided to play baseball with spreadsheets after all.

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Some of us in here would totally be all-stars if that happened

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by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd still be left out.

I’m ill-prepared for the mother’s-basement revolution as it’s currently composed.

by DanUpBaby on Nov 8, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

then you become a producer....?

j/k

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

if we'd had this revolution in 2003

and I only had to know how to calculate OBP and that win shares were cool, right? I’d be set. But now I’m at the “Those who can’t teach, teach gym” part of the Woody Allen joke.

by DanUpBaby on Nov 8, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

oh hey, you could be the bench coach

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

As long as I can be bullpen coach...

I’m fine with this plan… Does the bullpen coach do anything other than tell who to get up and start warming up?

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by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

apparently not

they guys were pretty upset when marty mason got let go

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1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I can only assume

he tells good jokes in innings 1-5… They’re afraid that the new guy won’t have any good jokes.

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by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

....warm up the computers?

you may have to defrag every now and then, I guess

oh, and you have to wait for the e-mail from the manager.

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

and you can't use google alerts

you actually have to wait for the e-mail.

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

you spend the offseason combing the strat-o-matic cards

for players with awesome lefty or righty splits in really small sample sizes.

by DanUpBaby on Nov 8, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

There was a great SSS joke

on Down Goes Brown a few weeks back. If you like hockey feel free to check his stuff out.

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by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

i think that game would pass you by

but you wouldn’t be able to let go, and you would be force into a managerial role. overtime, you would project onto your team of spreadsheeters your “glory” days by placing gritty veteran writers with an affection for history and context.

spreadsheet fans would hate you, but the owner you work for and stltoday.com commentors, and fans with “midwestern” sensibilities would worship you.

by YesWeOquendo on Nov 8, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

does danup at least get a baseball movie out of it?

a highbrow one, even?

(full circle!!!)

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

not a movie, but a play

it would be written by his daughters. he will be awkwardly forced into the role of a levitating grim reaper bunny

by YesWeOquendo on Nov 8, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

this thread has taken a dark turn

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

It was only a matter of time.

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by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Good points

I see where you are coming from, I think you missed my position. My point is not that Inception or Avatar tried to be highbrow movies and failed, it’s that they were never even close to highbrow in the first place – they weren’t even trying.

There is no way that you could make a movie like Inception (which was 90% action + exposition) with the intent of trying to highlight fine art or send a message or whatever. The only thing psuedo-intellegent about that movie was the science fiction garble and the convoluted storyline. The fact that that movie was held up (and advertised) as an example of a real intelligent movie that was original and engrossing or whatever, is what I think sucks.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 8, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

so... films should be good films, and movies should be good movies

and a movie shouldn’t pretend to be a film

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, well in more shades of gray, but that's basically the point

Christopher Nolan pulling a fast one on America makes us dumber.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 8, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree that Inception sucks and is bad and should feel bad.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 8, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

the movie itself

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 8, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

i feel bad for the movie

the flick was fine. it was an action adventure with a few psychological mystery moments. i don’t see any problem with that.

by YesWeOquendo on Nov 8, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I wrote a fair sized criticism of the movie some daythread or another a few months ago

It has so many problems. Not least of which the fact that almost all the characters don’t seem to have any strong motivation at all. They’re all there to serve the development of DiCaprio’s character, who isn’t really much of a compelling character anyways. And what about that chase scene in, like, Africa or somewhere toward the beginning? What was that all about? It was like The Room, it just opened a plot thread and never addressed it again, or did so in some unclear fashion.

All the while, people are going “Ooooh, crazy new universe with crazy rules” and yet they do nothing to actually flesh out the universe besides exposition sequence after exposition sequence explaining how the dream entering works. There appears to be nothing more to this world other than the fact that people can enter dreams and furthermore, there isn’t really any reflection on how important or widespread dream invasion is to this universe. All we see is how a few well-dressed individuals engage in this activity.

Damnit, here I go again. There’s just so much wrong with the movie. I think people forget what good sci-fi is supposed to look like. Watch Bladerunner sometime (or watchi it again, if you have already). See how well it shows the world it resides in? You can imagine what an everyday person in that world would be like. It feels like a universe, not just some long-winded yet two-dimensional explanation of a crazy idea Christopher Nolan had.

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Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 8, 2010 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I think you could write another 1,000 words criticizing Inception

The only way it could possibly have worked as a movie would be if the whole thing was an exercise in showing how people can fool you into thinking a different reality, and having that realization being foisted upon DiCaprio.

I think Nolan kinda half heartedly went there, but the whole thing was so consumed with action and exposition that it completely failed.

At b best, it’s is a shitty Shutter Island.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 8, 2010 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

dude, it's a summer blockbuster

it’s the same genre as transformers

i think it’s unfair to compare it to alien and bladerunner

by YesWeOquendo on Nov 8, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

But that's the whole point I was trying to make

It was marketed as “an intelligent movie” and Nolan was being compared to guys like Kubrick and Hitchcock.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 8, 2010 1:48 AM EST up reply actions  

it's self aware??

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Too much

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

sbn'd

too much “I hope they serve beer in hell” and “I hope they condemn Tucker Max to hell” and not enough “CDGAFATM”

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the country as a whole is going that way...

you have to move to one extreme or the other… there’s no room for middle ground because it doesn’t make for a good story.

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by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

oh please

the Hollywood industry does everything in its power to kill creativity. if you knew half the crap they do for “cost-cutting” and “marketability”, your soul would spontaneously shrivel.

it’s the same with baseball. Fox thinks if it’s not “marketable”, it’s not entertaining. so it spends a good decade throttling the postseason into submission just to turn it into a product, when it should be doing the work of providing the entertainment.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with the killing ideas thing...

I was referring more to a broad statement of basically if it bleeds it leads in day to day content… but I agree that Hollywood doesn’t like taking risks… hence why they just keep remaking movies that already made money once… I’m sick and tired of that crap which is why unless it’s superbly compelling I refuse to watch remakes…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

some remakes work, to be fair.

but only if they truly appreciate the source material.

like the shot-by-shot Psycho. one of the most basic things I learned was that Hitch never showed the food because it detracted from the scene, which was mostly framed so the background bird could be stabbing her head. then I see it in color, with food being shoved in, and I just couldn’t watch it.

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Well yeah some are going to work

like I said… if it’s compelling for some reason I’ll check it out… but if it’s clearly just a money grab to see hot actor du jour make a movie from the past I’ll let it pass unless I hear it’s well done.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

sometimes they remake movies that didn't make money

The Hitcher being one that comes to mind. the 2007 remake was superb for what it was meant to be. It had a lot of great scene by scene remakes in it. I’d recommend watching the original (1986) then watching the remake.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow. A pretty lengthy discussion about america's entertainment culture.

Loosely prompted by a comment regarding a movie with 3D dildo cannons.

I dig it.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 8, 2010 4:50 AM EST up reply actions  

this

is VEB

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

OT- behind the times?

I just noticed the Colts are wearing helmets with the iconic horseshoe on the back instead of on the sides. How long has that been going on?

by the Tewk on Nov 7, 2010 6:10 PM EST reply actions  

just this game i believe

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by jacksonian on Nov 7, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

it looks very strange

perhaps because the helmets are blue instead of white.
Can you imagine the Cardinals wearing unis with the birds on the bat somewhere else besides across the chest?

by the Tewk on Nov 7, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

they very rarely wear the throwbacks

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 7, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

let's not mention the rams throwbacks, then

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

God I love those

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 7, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Which ones?

I like the helmets with the white horns, myself.

Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.

by The Continental on Nov 7, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

The blue and yellow ones

Though I do remember playing with the white horns on Madden, once…

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 7, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

White horns > Yellow horns > Crap they have now.

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by Alxfritz on Nov 7, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The worst was last nite

the Red Wings were playing the Canucks in Vancouver… and the Canucks wore throw back unis… in white… seriously NHL pick a god damn home and away color system… I don’t care what it is as long as you keep it consistent… I shouldn’t have to think that hard to figure out where the game is being played.

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by ducttape16 on Nov 7, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Incredibly OT

Canadian Handegg Awesomeness

Also, the official burger of the CFL is the Baconator. VEB should consider adopting a team for the Grey Cup playoffs.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 7, 2010 6:50 PM EST reply actions  

what the wat?

I always thought CFL was similar to the NFL but that was weird

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 7, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Basically...

Long FG attempt by Montreal = Montreal hugely favored to win regardless make or miss.
Make = 3 points
Miss = If Toronto tackled in endzone or ball is kicked through the endzone, then Montreal gets a rouge (1 point).

Toronto’s options: Return it (~15-20 yards to get it out of the endzone) OR Kick it back out and stop Montreal from scoring a touchdown (or apparently, punting it back into the endzone).

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 7, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly i didn't even know all of that!

I just thought they had 20 yard endzones. I’m definitely intrigued now. That sounds like a heck of a lot of fun to watch.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

thats crazy

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"

Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."

by riftraftredbird on Nov 7, 2010 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

its like handegg hockey

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"

Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."

by riftraftredbird on Nov 7, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I think, given the chance, I'd prefer Canadian-Rules football to the NFL's brand

I like how wide open the offense is. Also that punters can score points.

by DanUpBaby on Nov 7, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

If you like wide open offense...

get in your time machine and head to Ann Arbor yesterday… still super pissed about that game…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 7, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Superbly OT

IT’S TREEHOUSE OF HORROR DAY!!!!

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 7, 2010 7:06 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Not at all.

Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.

by The Continental on Nov 7, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

can't say I "hate it"

but it doesn’t exactly make sense.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Nov 7, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

the world series

got in the way

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Nov 7, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

It's been getting in the way for a long time now.

You’d think they’d run it on an off-night during the series.

Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.

by The Continental on Nov 7, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

They'd lose the people

who have been watching the Simpsons at 7pm local time Central for years… No reason to sacrifice all those viewers when they will be at that time slot the next weekend…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 7, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm saying run Treehouse of Horror as a special. As much as it's promoted, people would find it.

They’d run a regular episode in its accustomed slot.

Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.

by The Continental on Nov 7, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they'd have to promote it a lot more

if they wanted to do a stand alone episode on a different nite.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 7, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Chiba Lotte Marines,

your 2010 Climax Series/Nippon Series/Japan Series/NPB Champions!

The Marines finished third in the Central League.

2010 Nippon Series Schedule
Game 1 	30 October	5 – 2		W
Game 2 	31 October	1 – 12		L
Game 3 	2 November	7 – 1		W
Game 4 	3 November	3 – 4 (11)	L
Game 5 	4 November	10 – 4		W
Game 6 	6 November	2 – 2		T
Game 7 	7 November	8 – 7 (12)	W

You’ll notice a tie for Game 6. In the NPB, games are limited to 12 innings (15 in the playoffs). If the Dragons had won game 7, they would have played a Game 8 today with no innings limit.

The Marines now go on to face the SK Wyverns of the KBO for the Japan – Korea Championship.

Also, the non-DL league won again!

Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.

by The Continental on Nov 7, 2010 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

is Hee Sop involved?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

No, he was on the Kia Tigers.

Kelvin Jiménez also misses out, on the Doosan Bears.

Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.

by The Continental on Nov 7, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

rec for the accent

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

is that a barrel of sake?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

it's the Climax Series

and it’s in Japan. What else would it be, but warm sake?

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Nov 7, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

)avoids making cheap bukkake joke(

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Nov 8, 2010 12:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

this is America

we do beerkakke

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Typical Japanese efficiency.

Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.

by The Continental on Nov 7, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

aren't the stadiums wrapped in plastic too

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Helps the acoustics for the drums.

Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.

by The Continental on Nov 7, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

you really have to work for it in Japan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBPGY3jo56c
and that’s just the walkup

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

it's videos like this that make me think

one day far in the future, Brendan Ryan needs to play in Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miDy_tnazdc

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Even TBBFIA would fail at that.

And Steve in Florida would die 5-6 games in.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 7, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

someone has to

can we wrap strauss in something air tight for a minute
maybe then he gets the idea..

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 7, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like a ridiculous way to end a game

Wait I take that back… the skills competition the NHL uses wins that battle.

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by ducttape16 on Nov 7, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, did Suh attempt a PAT?

Did I hear that correctly?

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 7, 2010 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

yes you did

hit the upright

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Nov 7, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I know he was super expensive and all,

but c’mon Detroit, he’ll pay off without having to find new ways for him to get your money’s worth.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 7, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Video

Watch before the NFL pulls the video.

He’s smaller than Janikowski.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 7, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Topical

I like how the first question had a Jeff Suppan reference and Grant’s answer had a mention of stem cell research. Somebody’s been keeping up or doing their homework.

I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson

by Solanus on Nov 7, 2010 8:49 PM EST reply actions  

Wow

I would be pretty impressed if that were an intentional reference. I wouldn’t think our quaint little fly over political squabbles would make headlines over Californi-way.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 7, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

shouldn't be surprising

they can jack into the Matrix in every cafe and some street corners

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

well, only for medicinal matrices

the world domination stuff keeps losing in the referendums. But you can marry your agent, if you want to jack beneath the line.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Nov 7, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

What did you guys think of A Serious Man?

I thought it was amazing – funny and surreal will always do it for me. Plus it had a 13 year old smoking 4 joints before his bar mitzvah and jeffeson aiplnane. It reminded me of metamorphosis a little bit.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 7, 2010 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

it's ok

was hoping for more I guess

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 7, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I loved it

The Coen Brothers are spectacular film makers.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Nov 7, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm watching Intolerable Cruelty right now

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 7, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought that one was terribly underrated.

Also, the ladykillers. For whatever reason, their comedies don’t do as well. Critics yawn and say “needs more torture-murder.”

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Nov 8, 2010 12:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

it's not a bad motto

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I thought it was pretty good

they are good at lots of different types of movies. I’ll have to check out the ladykillers

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 8, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

check out 'Blood Simple " their first if you havent already

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"

Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."

by riftraftredbird on Nov 8, 2010 2:57 AM EST up reply actions  

brilliant and spot on i lived in Hopkins ,minnesota in 63-65 same age as joel. brilliant

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"

Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."

by riftraftredbird on Nov 8, 2010 2:36 AM EST up reply actions  

OT: I'd like to apologize to azru

for all the recent avatar changes… I think this one should be the final change for awhile… had to get in some Guy Fawkes avatar action on Guy Fawkes Day though… and got this picture from the weekend and like it better than what I had.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 7, 2010 10:44 PM EST reply actions  

my friends' band

I’ve seen them at least 4 or 5 times, amazing band http://mauricechicago.bandcamp.com/

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 7, 2010 10:58 PM EST reply actions  

it's really good

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 8, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

It is good

Thank you

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

sweet

good paper-writin music

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I really like the beginning of Put me in your pocket

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

reminds me a little bit of Tortoise

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 8, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed

I know the drummer and keyboardist for years… most of the guys in this band studied music in college. the drummer’s a music teacher now, and the keyboardist is actually a composer, teaches also.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 8, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

laptops should not be that.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6A70G720101108

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 7, 2010 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

hehehehe

overheated scrotum… yes I’m 11 I know…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 7, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

How is this any different than me posting "Boobs"!?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

you'll take that back when someone finds out what reading VEB for hours has done to him

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

if you're taking a break debating the state of American culture

did the Mariners really get posting rights to Hisashi Iwakuma?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:04 AM EST reply actions  

I haven't seen anything confirming that

But I think that they’re the favorites

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

what do you think the posting money will be of that

and now I gotta go see his agent’s twitter, which reportedly has Japanese smiley faces

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I literally have no clue

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

ahahaha he's *addicted* to the smilies

http://twitter.com/donnomura

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Fun with Google translate
Good evening!! Sports days today!! Went for a walk!! With Yamanote Line! Starting at 7:15 am Shimbashi, Shinagawa, Ikebukuro coffee and lunch at around Harajuku Shibuya Shimbashi 5 pm arrival, quickly walked nine times, I want feet, but happy with a sense of accomplishment. Fun (’▽ `) Bruno

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm still trying to figure out if his favorite smiley is a penguin or something

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm seeing a snowman

Kyle Lohse has a No-Trade Clause.

by BVHeck on Nov 8, 2010 3:22 AM EST up reply actions  

So McNamara never emailed me back about getting lunch

He’s in town from the 5th-11th… I emailed him on the 4th to ask him about getting lunch (which he had said twice previously he would love to do)

It’s not uncouth to call him tomorrow, right?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 12:09 AM EST reply actions  

he probably googled "mcnamara mysterui" and found VEB

ans was like, uh, ok.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Nov 8, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

How I've missed

the late nite spin off conversations we get into on here… nice to be back…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:47 AM EST reply actions  

I was just thinking the same thing haha

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I love not doing my homework because of VEB and Jazz

And then starting it at 12:00 and thus not getting any sleep.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 8, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

homework...

oh how I don’t miss that…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't worry

when the homework stops, you just get a different set of problems that conspire against you.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

ME TOO!

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

America?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Trig is the last math I found useful

everything else came across to me as “hey look what we can do with numbers” it should also be noted I do roadway work and nothing that actually requires real math.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Statistics is the only useful math I've ever experienced

And my school doesn’t even require it.

I’m gonna go on a mini-rant here… of the time that I have spent awake in the my math classes thus far, 95% has been learning the mechanics of “solving the equation” and maybe 5% critical thinking. There may have been a time when you actually had to do things by hand, but obviously not now with the fucking supercomputers. If you were working for a multimillion dollar company there is no way in hell they would want you to do your math by hand. Meanwhile, the statistical literacy of people is continually going down (properly interpreting numbers being far more important than solving isolated equations). I am a far dumber person for having ever taken math.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 8, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

statistics should be required of all majors

or at least have stats classes for the math/science majors, and for the general student body

and I don’t even like math.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm a civil engineer

the last time I used stats was for the FE test… I’m sure it’s very useful to some people, but not for me. Not sure if you should make it a campus wide requirement…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

it's a life skill in any large community

especially with media spouting severely stupid statistics, then saying they don’t tell us anything. well, duh. ‘cause they’re not presenting them correctly. it affects decision-making on every level of adult life.

I meant there should be split courses — technical prereqs and the non-math ones for general reqs.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

really, "critical thinking" is the real-life skill

statistics is a tool used to inform the thinking. very rarely is statistics useful in a mechanics-related field.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Nov 8, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

In fairness I go old school with stuff like that

if something sound completely wrong I just assume it is and go about my life.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

that's how the dark side wins

so carry on….

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

My point is...

I don’t have time to fact check everything… but I have a finely tuned BS meter that I employ. It’s seemed to work pretty well for me so far…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

my point is

there are a lot of people who are very, very good at turning your BS meter against you.

and fact-checking everything is pretty easy these days. you don’t even have to check twitter or anything.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Well if it helps

I more just go through life not worrying about things I can’t change… so a lot of this stuff is moot.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

easy to manipulate into inaction

check

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm a professional at apathy...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, stats are pretty useless for real-world engineers

it’s funny that it’s so poignant for baseball. Things like variance matter very little when dealing with aircraft structures.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Nov 8, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

is anyone else bothered by that fespn commercial with the nerds/jocks switch

because I’m pretty sure Lincecum’s home/away splits 1) make no sense in context, 2) are too close to have actual significance. it makes no sense.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

They don’t even reference if those are his numbers for 1 season or his career.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

it would be a good premise

but instead it makes me violent

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

It's incredibly important for politics and policy issues

You have no idea how people get duped by phony statistics, or who don’t understand basic things like bias and sample size.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 8, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I think i have a prett ygood idea.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Nov 8, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Three types of lies...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

you know, someone sent me this game

it’s BBC-sponsored content for primary schoolers
http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/ks2bitesize/games/questionaut/play_popup.shtml
wondering how many u.s. college students would get through it without any mistakes

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

click the hat.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

well, that answers the question

i guess

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

lol... the questions are randomized

first one

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

level 6 is cool

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I've gotten two questions wrong and i think the answer they had was wrong

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

which was it

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

(some of them are British-compatible, granted)

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

it asked...

how the pitch changes as you fill a bottle of water if you tap on it. It said the pitch gets lower as you fill it up.
Then the questions about words in the English Language. no way there are 25000 words in english.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 2:08 AM EST up reply actions  

oops

it does need a bit of a walkthrough

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

i managed without it

the colors one took me awhile tho

Kyle Lohse has a No-Trade Clause.

by BVHeck on Nov 8, 2010 4:10 AM EST up reply actions  

i keep getting stuck on ecology

even after playing it a couple of times

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Eh the doing in by hand

is kinda like doing proofs… if you can figure it all out you should at least in theory know how it all works. And it’s much easier to teach solving equations than to teach critical thinking hence why you see that more often.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:16 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

exactly.

And the fun thing about “statistics” is that you don’t even teach the derivation- students are expected to memorize formulas. I’ve never seen a “first-principles”-oriented stats class, and that is unfortunate.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Nov 8, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I never had to memorize formulas

They tried to teach us the basis of what we were doing… Which mostly fell on deaf ears as we were all engineers and just wanted to know what we needed to know to get from Question A to Answer B… but they at least tried.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

now if they needed statistics to get through Saw

they’d learn it real fast

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

i take statistics and your class must be different than mine

cause the only thing i need to know in that class is the formula… i can ignore everything the teacher says in the class as long as i find out what the formula is…

if i know the formula, then all i have to do is enter it into my TI-83 calculator (which does pretty much everything…) and it gives me the answer….

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 8, 2010 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

uhhh

you kinda just proved his point that nobody thinks anymore

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

true

but he said his stat class was useful… which i disagree with unless he learns something else

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 8, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with him, and

If you thought in your stats class you would probably learn something too

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

oh i've learned some things in that class

just saying what i could do in that class easily and not having my grade suffer at all… it’s actually one of my favorite classes (although it has to do with the teacher moreso than the material)

i think i laughed in my head when one class he said in this case the sample size doesn’t matter….

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 8, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Well your school is doing it rong

I mean it’s high school, so who gives a crap really, but the whole point of school should be to encourage thinking, which seems to be the opposite of school these days.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 8, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

WATCH "WAITING FOR SUPERMAN" GODDAMMIT

EVERYONE

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

we can't discuss anything without seeing a movie first

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions  

unless it involves bacon.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Nov 8, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

exactly

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

It's good once you get more advanced

Hypothesis tests, confidence intervals, regression analysis

We’re doing instrument variable analysis in Forecasting right now, and it’s really interesting. Though I don’t understand it fullly yet…

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

i know they don't correlate perfectly

but you have a C- in Trig and you know baseball stats that haven’t been created yet and the math behind it…

clearly you are not applying yourself to the material (or doing homework – full circle)

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 8, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I have a problem with mindlessly copying down equations

And I don’t understand the technical math behind baseball stats, simply the theoretical. I have no idea how to calculate regressions or K-Means clusters manually, but I know what they mean and how to use them.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 8, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

If you're good with the theory stuff

I could see how you may have trouble with trig… my experience has always been people can either be good and theoretical stuff or applied stuff, but rarely both.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

The encouraging thing is

that once you figure out which one you are, you can learn calc by either method.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Unless you're me...

I sucked at calc… saw no reason I’d ever need it and couldn’t force myself to care.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

it took about a month for calc to click

then after that it was pretty easy for me.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I had awful people teaching it to me...

and didn’t care enough to teach it to myself.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

As an adult with a well paying job

I’d just like to point out that the only math course I took in college was statistics and, all in all, math is fucking useless in the real world.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 8, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I MEAN, JUST GOOGLE THAT SHIT

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 8, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Would I be a better economist...

simply by employing the eye-test model at least for that case?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Ummm

I’m not sure what that means… nor do I know if I like what you are implying… if I could figure out what you are implying…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

he must have his laptop on his lap

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

hehehe

overheated scrotum is still funny.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

well, it is why they're outside the body

it would get too hot and kill them all off

in my quest to make everything on-topic… it’s like why they put the bullpen all the way out there

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

So the Cubs are sterile?

I don’t follow.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

i swear they're losing because wrigley is leaking poison gases into their clubhouse

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Or old concrete

onto their heads… I hope Wrigley isn’t leaking too much poison… I’m close enough I might get caught in the fall out.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

there are more tangible things to worry about if you live in that neighborhood

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Eh I'm close enough to walk to the stadium if I want

but far enough away I don’t have to deal with Wrigleyville nonsense. It’s a pretty sweet set up.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

it's the enclosed spaces

part of my theory is that it reduces coordination and increases aggression

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

From Lookout Landing
Opposing pitchers threw 1453.1 innings against the Mariners and posted a 2.92 ERA. Pedro Martinez’s career ERA was 2.93.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 8, 2010 12:55 AM EST reply actions  

Maybe they should open their eyes

and swing at a strike or two… or open their eyes whilst swinging…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

wow

that definitely puts our “poor” season in perspective

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

methinks ours was disappointing

not poor

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

yep

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Random OT:

I somehow got a bottle of peppermint schnapps pawned off on me from this weekend… anyone know anything I can use that with to make it disappear?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:33 AM EST reply actions  

magic

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Is it cold there?

Because if so, hot chocolate

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

My favorite drink. It’s not gay at all.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 8, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Hot apple cider + butterscotch schnaps is also a good choice

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

That doesn't solve my peppermint schnapps problem though...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah yeah yeah got that...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm currently debating if I get an early jump

on Maker’s Monday…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:45 AM EST up reply actions  

It's really your only option,

other than straight.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 8, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

It's Chicago...

so it will be soon enough… and I keep hearing something with chocolate… so I’ll have to figure out some Hot Chocolate to drink soon to make it disappear. Either that or find a pretty lady to pawn it off on.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually on an aside, my fiancee left a bottle of peach schnaps here

What do I do with that?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

vodka and orange juice

fuzzy navel you can catch a buzz off of. At least we would do that in college…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

fuzzy navel is with Malibu Rum,

not vodka. I’m not sure what you would call that concoction other than awful.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 8, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

??

Fuzzy navel is orange juice + peach schnapps… and that’s it.

Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.

by The Continental on Nov 8, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I've always added MRum.....

pretty tastee,and it sneeks more alcohol into the ladies drinks…..

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 8, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

don't drink it

possibly the worst night of my life involves a bottle of peppermint schnapps. And trying to remember when to breathe. Pretty much in that order.

I mean, you can drink it, just don’t do it all at once.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Nov 8, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

the crack of booze?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

even had a "fucking giants" reference

nice.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Nov 8, 2010 1:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I will now ruin your respective nights

Whose Line

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

A-SS-HO-LE

EVERYBODY!!!

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

and it's funny, cuz p.s. isn't even that bad for you

but it’s very easy to overdo it, if you are not used to hard alcohol.

Just be careful…

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Nov 8, 2010 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I drink bourbon...

I know how to handle it…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

but bourbon burns.

Vodka burns. Gin tastes like fucking poison. etc.

Schnapps is usually pretty delicious. It’s like most liquors- you can kill yourself drinking 40-pf grand marnier, cuz it doesn’t feel intoxicating until it’s too late- you keep getting drunk for hours after you stop drinking. harder to do that with bad whiskey from kentucky, cuz it tastes bad. Easier with good scotch. Really easy with a flavored beverage like P.S.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Nov 8, 2010 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I drink bourbon and coke

It’s poured to a nice level of strong, but where I you can’t taste the booze…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

that'll do it.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Nov 8, 2010 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

ignore the typos...

I’m not drinking I promise…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

speaking of

drinking

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

chocolate syrup

pour in mouth, do a shot.
repeat.

:)

Kyle Lohse has a No-Trade Clause.

by BVHeck on Nov 8, 2010 4:17 AM EST up reply actions  

apples are a waste

you end up soaking your weed. Roll really thin J’s. You would be surprised how efficient these are.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 8, 2010 1:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it may just be time

to put it off til tomorrow with problems arising left and right.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe this is why you have a C- in trig...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

a C-?

you’re supposed to be all mathy

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 8, 2010 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

hell

i have a 94 average in my discrete math class. aced one exam what

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twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 8, 2010 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

no, 97

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twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 8, 2010 2:07 AM EST up reply actions  

i mean

freakin’ cosine. what’s not to get. unit circle and shit

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 8, 2010 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I'm with you

VEP is clearly smart enough to be able to ace trig.

Smoke pot once you get to college. It’s much more fun there

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I was sucking at math way before i started smoking

My GPA has remained a steady 3.1 throughout my entire high school career.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 8, 2010 2:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Eh the best advice I ever heard

was wait until the concrete of your noodle dries before you start fucking with it…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

You really only need to know one...

you are supposed to be able to figure everything else out from that in theory…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 2:12 AM EST up reply actions  

i kinda hated that, too

but there’s only a few different ones to learn from there and they’re pretty essential throughout upper level math

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 8, 2010 2:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah learn them now or you'll be playing catch up

for however long you have to do math from here on out.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

oh lord, do you need some diagrams?

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 8, 2010 1:56 AM EST up reply actions  

your basic elements

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 8, 2010 2:04 AM EST up reply actions  

wouldn't using a bottle pretty much cause cancer?

actually, i don’t care. I have another question, what’s the best way to make a stem and “socket”?

by vivaelpujols on Nov 8, 2010 2:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I never thought I would see

schematics for a MacGyver bong on VEB… Guess I was wrong…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 2:13 AM EST up reply actions  

stem: break a pen

you have a socket wrench?

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 8, 2010 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

any tampons left in your hovel the paper from the wrapper works....just sayin'

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"

Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."

by riftraftredbird on Nov 8, 2010 2:48 AM EST up reply actions  

come up here and we will smoke out of my giant blue bong

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 8, 2010 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

far away from everyone else ever.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 8, 2010 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

In a pinch, I've seen water bottles and apples used

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 1:45 AM EST up reply actions  

what does VEB think of these shoes?

link

mainly the one labeled grey but i think it’s brown

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 8, 2010 1:46 AM EST reply actions  

Meh. Get Tom's

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

i don't really know what that is

is that a brand?

i’ve found shoes to be a very polarizing subject on the internet

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twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 8, 2010 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

...

Link

You get nice and shit shoes

And you’re being charitable!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Where the fuck did that "and shit" come from?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I just saw a toms ad on the main page

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 3:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I like the gray/brown

but keep in mind that I’m boring

by DanUpBaby on Nov 8, 2010 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

they pretty much look bad with anything

you won’t ever impress girls, because you will always be underdressed. Sometimes you might impress your friends, but only if they are oafs. if you are planning on showing your underwear to people on the subway, those are probably the shoes for you.

Also, get off my lawn.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Nov 8, 2010 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

"Thirty-four dollars!?"

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

just put them in a box in your closet

so you can sell them on ebay in ~30 years for $$$$$.

Please, don’t wear them.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Nov 8, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

im not very good at shoes

i don’t really pay attention to shoes

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 8, 2010 2:08 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm getting a little old for skate shoes

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by prophetjohn on Nov 8, 2010 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

i kinda want something halfway nice

but apparently those up there are bum shoes

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by prophetjohn on Nov 8, 2010 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

steve madden!

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

who is that

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by prophetjohn on Nov 8, 2010 2:13 AM EST up reply actions  

most comfy casual shoe designer

link

Only don’t buy them from steve madden, buy them from dsw, famous, or some other rack store where they’re rarely more than $50

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 2:16 AM EST up reply actions  

...bunch of dudes

sittin around… talkin shoes… nothin to see here…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 2:18 AM EST up reply actions  

it's like one of those skechers commercials

only we aren’t saying the word skechers enough.

by DanUpBaby on Nov 8, 2010 2:19 AM EST up reply actions  

shoes and math

that’s what i talk about at 1:19 on a monday morning

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by prophetjohn on Nov 8, 2010 2:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Inferior time zones lololololol

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 2:21 AM EST up reply actions  

is there a way to customize the time stamp time on comments

i’m getting tired of trying to figure out what time somebody posted

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 2:22 AM EST up reply actions  

wat

All timestamps are PST for me

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 2:25 AM EST up reply actions  

pretty stupid time am i right

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by prophetjohn on Nov 8, 2010 2:26 AM EST up reply actions  

There's an "Edit Settings" on your profile page

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 2:26 AM EST up reply actions  

thanks

i’ve been livin with pst ever since i signed up for sbn

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 2:28 AM EST up reply actions  

but when i'm rolling my ass out of bed at 10:30

you’ve proabaly been up and it’s 8:30

plus, the hippies

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by prophetjohn on Nov 8, 2010 2:25 AM EST up reply actions  

My first class is at 4:00 tomorrow

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 2:27 AM EST up reply actions  

i just told you

the hippies

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by prophetjohn on Nov 8, 2010 2:28 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm pretty sure

there are, like, three unattractive girls at texas state. there’s like 40k students

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by prophetjohn on Nov 8, 2010 2:29 AM EST up reply actions  

that's not true at bible colleges

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 2:30 AM EST up reply actions  

just don't go in my closet please

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 2:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I like comfy designer shoes

there I said it.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 2:36 AM EST up reply actions  

My pot roast is turning out poorly

But on the bright side, my mustache is growing in nicely

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 2:06 AM EST reply actions  

Well between the shoes

and the MacGyver bongs there’s nothing for me anymore… Have a nice nite all.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 2:22 AM EST reply actions  

....

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 8, 2010 2:33 AM EST reply actions  

gif fail?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 2:34 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, i don't see anything

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by prophetjohn on Nov 8, 2010 2:35 AM EST up reply actions  

can you still not see it?

it’s robert gibbs walking in on an obama press conference & then turning around & walking right out. when i was reading this before shutting it down last night i realized i didn’t belong in the thread anymore so i thought this would be funny. guess not.

oh well, they all can’t be winners

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 8, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

polar bears are funny

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 2:38 AM EST up reply actions  

One of the most successful late-night VEBs in awhile

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 2:57 AM EST reply actions  

i miss the summer ones

where the kids didn’t have school, and aranathor (sp?) and iheartboog go on drunken outbursts

also i just finished watching scott pilgrim for the first time. i’m pleasantly surprised. i didn’t expect all the fighting and decent music

by YesWeOquendo on Nov 8, 2010 3:02 AM EST up reply actions  

It did terribly at the box office, which is a shame

Such an entertaining movie

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 3:03 AM EST up reply actions  

i just got finished with season one of Breaking Bad i know nothing about meth

and have no way of knowing if its at all accurate but if it is, holy shit

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"

Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."

by riftraftredbird on Nov 8, 2010 3:07 AM EST reply actions  

They're coming up on Season 4

Whenever they decide to actually run it. I know they are delaying it… I guess they decided 4 Emmys in a row for Cranston was too much…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually know a little about meth

from my Controversey in America class. What are they saying about it?

by vivaelpujols on Nov 8, 2010 3:21 AM EST up reply actions  

i dont know if you know the storyline but its about a Chem teacher w/cancer that has to

figure a way of supporting his family ,on the sly , because his brother in law is a DEA agent and his wife is hot and explosive and cold all at the same time . He hooks up with a former student and they start cookin the shit and then its so good that the really badass meth people get agitated and shit goes down . thats all i can say without a spoiler. i give it an A

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"

Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."

by riftraftredbird on Nov 8, 2010 3:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like Weeds

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 3:26 AM EST up reply actions  

better weeds is too annoying

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"

Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."

by riftraftredbird on Nov 8, 2010 3:27 AM EST up reply actions  

much better

but the women are less attractive

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by prophetjohn on Nov 8, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Weeds fell out of favor for me

after season 2. Although Mary Louise-Parker is still uber hot, IMO.

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Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 8, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

she’s pretty much the only reason to watch the show. unless you’re like 15, then you can watch it because, “lol, pot, hehe”

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by prophetjohn on Nov 8, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think season two is released to netflix and they're on season three . its shockingly good

after watching The Wire it was hard to find something as good , this seems to fit

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"

Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."

by riftraftredbird on Nov 8, 2010 3:14 AM EST reply actions  

Classic riftraft

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 3:15 AM EST up reply actions  

if you explain, will i weep, a few beers on board

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"

Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."

by riftraftredbird on Nov 8, 2010 3:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha, just noting how you missed a reply again =)

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 3:21 AM EST up reply actions  

oh that yeah i try but damn its confusing

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"

Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."

by riftraftredbird on Nov 8, 2010 3:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Beatles nerds

The difference between stereo and mono

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 3:14 AM EST reply actions  

mono seems weirdly better ?

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"

Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."

by riftraftredbird on Nov 8, 2010 3:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Mono does sound better

cool

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 8, 2010 3:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Stereo was new tech during the 60s

Mono was more “polished,” I believe

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 4:25 AM EST up reply actions  

The Beatles and George Martin tweaked each mono mix personally, while many stereo mixes were done by others in the studio.

Stereo just wasn’t as big a deal in England at the time and they didn’t put the same care into those mixes.

Personally, I picked up the stereo boxed set. It’s more complete and has more extra stuff. I’m not a big enough fan to get both.

Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.

by The Continental on Nov 8, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

i leave you with this , my apologies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hVxpcoJSJk

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"

Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."

by riftraftredbird on Nov 8, 2010 3:46 AM EST reply actions  

Those things are delicious...

especially if you’re a stoner…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 8, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

It's A Shame About Ray was a solid album.

Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.

by The Continental on Nov 8, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

handegg alert:

genius play: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UIdI8khMkw

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 8, 2010 4:34 AM EST reply actions  

Welcome to the middle of the thread

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 8, 2010 4:36 AM EST up reply actions  

oh.

figures

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 8, 2010 4:45 AM EST up reply actions  

so if you were reading this whole thread hoping there was a trade or contract or something

ha HA

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 8, 2010 10:03 AM EST reply actions  

Damn you VEB.

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by TBender on Nov 8, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Ya, I went to bed @ 10

my time, and woke up to 400 unread comments. Well done LN VEB.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 8, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder how the Giants blogger feels.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 8, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

What is the fuss all about? The Francisco giants is a great team who rightfully deserved that win and yes, horse racing is much fun and it can and will never be close to NASCAR, it is just too boring with no fun!

Michael Jordan in his prime

by rfreddreka on Nov 8, 2010 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

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