A Joe Mather lament and one more pitching choice
I'm sad to see Joe Mather go, and especially to Atlanta, where Brian Barton was last seen before he went off to look for Frank Poole in the pod bay. Mather didn't recover especially well from his wrist problems, and the period between the moment he appeared to finally get it and the moment he was injured was so small that it's hard to predict how good he'd be even if he were in perfect condition.
But he was a lot of fun to watch, because he looked so much like a baseball player. Female members of Viva El Birdos: I don't get the whole Skip Schumaker thing, but Joe Mather I understood. Everything he does on a baseball field—I can't and won't speak to what he does off of it, aside from appearing in a truly hilarious series of videos with Best Bro Forever Brendan Ryan—looks a little more athletically demanding and graceful when he does it.
He's a great example of how difficult it would be to evaluate baseball without keeping score: Watch Chris Duncan in 2006 and Joe Mather in 2010 and tell me who's the better player. I get the feeling losing Mather will be more like losing Terry Evans than the more optimistic Jayson Werth comparison, but I can't say I would mind if the Cardinals got burned on this one.
In summary, I can think of no better eulogy for Mather's time in St. Louis than the following excerpt from this really creepy spam blog:
Saye ye Uerses euery Roodmas and joe mather Hallow's Eue; and joe mather if ye Line runn out not, one shal bee in yeares to come that shal looke backe and joe mather use what Saltes or Stuff for Saltes you shal leaue him
joe mather
This was on the left-hand wall as one entered the room
Both were plainer and joe mather more hideous in the great pillared hall than anywhere else, and joe mather carried a vague impression of being far below, even in this dark nether world of subterrene mystery
And now, a moment of silence for Boog and Bombs, the sitcom pilot that never quite was. Also, Nick Stavinoha is still on the roster. So there's that.
I don't think the Cardinals are the kind of team to bid $16 million for the right to talk to a starting pitcher—as is apparently the case with Hisashi Iwakuma, the latest Japanese pitcher to be posted ahead of his official free agency—but he exists, in the event that the Cardinals decide to show the Rams how to be interesting, for once. (So many SB Nation St. Louis pageviews left on the table, and all because the front office was somehow surprised to learn that a football player was a jerk. But I digress.)
It's hard to figure out who will adapt well to American baseball and who won't; things seem a little more predictable than among hitters, but Daisuke Matsuzaka had better numbers and better stuff than any successful Japanese import this side of Hideo Nomo before turning into a nibbler. Iwakuma, like Kenshin Kawakami and Koji Uehara prior to the 2009 season, looks most like Hiroki Kuroda—he's a forkball specialist who gets a lot of groundballs, doesn't walk anybody, and has a good-enough fastball.
Iwakuma is coming to the majors much younger than those guys—he'll be 30 in 2011. Iwakuma distinguished himself in Japan by putting together a 21-win season, which is exceedingly rare over there; he did it by allowing three home runs in 201 innings to go with 159 strikeouts and 36 walks. Since then his home runs have normalized but stayed pretty low, which distinguishes him from Uehara and Kawakami.
He's going to disappoint any team that signs him remembering the 21-win season and his big World Baseball Classic performance, but in a free agent market that's light on sure things he's better than anybody this side of Cliff Lee. And he's a groundball pitcher! It's the universal language.
I'm fine with Jake Westbrook being the first and most likely option as the Cardinals' fourth starter of the present, but I think the back of the rotation remains one of the positions on the current roster most amenable to upgrade. Iwakuma's almost certainly out of the team's price range, but a member of the rehab brigade we discussed Tuesday makes perfect sense as a hedge against Kyle Lohse's continued ineffectiveness.
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That blocked passage...
…I must say is a really solid effort at original Middle English. Given that the language is supremely difficult to reproduce in an authentic form, since it existed in a totally non-standardized fashion… hats off to whomever wrote it.
Given the Cards status in the spending spectrum of MLB, I have no interest in Japanese pitchers. The best of them peak fast and burn out just as quickly… and that is the best case scenario so far. Simply put, the Cards can’t afford to take a $60 million (posting fee + contract expectations) flier. Leave it to the west coast teams with a viable marketing aspect in play and east coast teams who can write a bazillion dollar check with a shoulder shrug.
The track record of Japanese position players is better, but I still must say that even that it is something less than great.
“The funny thing is they much such bloody good cameras.”
I am much more interested in the Cards focusing their international efforts on the Caribbean and the rest of Latin America.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
He was a verray, parfit gentil knyght....
But, for to tellen yow of his array,
His hors were goode, but he was nat gay.
Of fustian he wered a gypon
Al bismotered with his habergeon,
For he was late ycome from his viage,
And wente for to doon his pilgrymage.
:=8)
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
all i got is
Oh ordlay, ivethgay usway ouryay essingsblay. Amen-ay!
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
verily.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Mandrake, have you ever seen a Japanese pitcher provide equal value to the money spent to acquire him?

Japanese pitchers cost a lot of money and then flame out, isn’t that what they do, Mandrake?
…Yes, well, Jack, I uh… I can’t say I’m really an expert on that sort of thing, you know… yes…
Mandrake, are you familiar with the posting process of Japanese pitchers?
…Uh, n-no, Jack, I erm… I believe maybe I’ve h-heard of…
The posting process is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Japanese plot Major League Baseball has ever had to face.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 4, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
The string in my leg is gone, Jack....
What?
The string.
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
;=8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KvgtEnABY
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
This exchange should be re-purposed more often.
meh.
by The Continental on Nov 4, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's a scheme to steal our precious bodily fluids...
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 4, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
rec'd so hard
My favorite movie : )
Always late to the party
well done...
mattybobo, if that really is your name
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Nov 4, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
can somebody explain the joke to me?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
have you seen this movie, Dr Strangelove? If not rent it immediatley and watch it 10 times
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 5, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this better be good, should have it in a couple of hours
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
yes that and Full Metal Jacket are my favorite Kubrick movies
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 5, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
its one of the all time great movies but watch it a few times
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 5, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
or... you can save some money
and watch it on youtube….
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 6, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
One of the great, funny movies of that era, and it still stands the test of time.
Sellers with 3 different roles, Slim Pickens as Maj. King Kong riding a bomb, George C. Scott, Keenan Wynn (Col. Bat Guano, what’s not to love?), Sterling Hayden as Brig. Gen. Jack Ripper, and a 33-year old James Earl Jones in his first movie. And the Air Force Base name? Burpelson!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 5, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, is ranked #33 on IMDB.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 5, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
great, now i have some serious expectations
better be right VEB!
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Would we ever lead you astray?
Also, it’s on the test.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
one of the greatest comedic performances ever by George C. Scott
Sellers gets the praise, but Scott made that movie. As much as I love Patton, Scott was untouchable in Strangelove.
yeah he was the master .... and that final scene in the war room i wonder how
many takes they had to do before they didnt bust up laughing . Sellers turning into Hitler….
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 5, 2010 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I sure wish we could get ourselves one of them doomsday thingies!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
just hope the gap doesn't widen to let more doom in
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 5, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Y2S is behind it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
wrong s
i’m guessing tom
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
some conspiracies are larger than I am.
be afraid.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
put some pants on
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You guys would be talking about
my ETA and posting gifs about my sloppy baserunning…
Erm, I need a towel
I am sure the Walrus can play RF...
Joe Mather. If looks could kill you would be an uzi.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Nov 4, 2010 8:09 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
we let joey go
and keep stav
i don’t get it
joey can actually hit and field
i guess we don’t need that
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
as a female member of VEB as i like to fancy myself
i don’t get the Skip thing either
but if i have to be deprived of Joe Mather’s smile, i better get Westy’s blue eyes or I will be (more of) a bitch all season… you hear that Mo?
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
by d-dee on Nov 4, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
..

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
by d-dee on Nov 4, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 15 recs
they're riding girl bikes
bombs must like the feel of that seat
I thought I told you to trim those sideburns!
The Road to Wellville:
Virginia Cranehill: The fresh air, the exercise, and the pleasure of a leather saddle between one’s thighs.
Eleanor Lightbody: Why, Virginia, what do you mean?
Virginia Cranehill: Bicycle smile, I believe they call it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8Hoz5574VA
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
where have you been hiding this?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
no one's reccing this
what is going on here
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You succeeded in prompting/shaming me to rec it
Honestly, sometimes I just forget to rec things. There’s a fine line between rec-whoring and friendly campaigning, to be sure, but I personally need these reminders from time to time.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i'm a little creeped out that i have a lot of single recs
it’s like one person stalking me
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
you don't like my recs?
er… i mean… yeah that’s totally weird.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
if you say something that i think is funny
i’ll rec it
whoever it is
so either you accept it as normal
or i’m stalking all of VEB
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
it's not the recs per se
which i appreciate
it’s the comments that end up with one rec
think about it
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
aah
it’s a safe bet they’ve been rec’d by dgm then
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
now you guys are just messing with me
aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
...aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
someone's doin' it wrong.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ahaha
bizarro gdm
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Me Superman
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
so he's happy & successful?
women want to be with him & men want to be him?
lucky mofo
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
don't look back
you can never look back
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought I knew what love was
what did I know?
Those bombs are gone forever
I should just let them go—but—
I can see them
playing whiffleball in the sun
imitating Mac’s home run
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2010 3:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I got the last one. It is now green.
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
I will miss the Boog and Bombs show.
I got to meet Joe Mather at spring training last year. He is even more awesome up close. He turns that smile on and you just melt. (I will stop drooling now.) He is a big kid and I hope he makes the Cardinals regret their decision.
Why would you keep Stavinoha on your roster and jettison Mather instead. Mather by himself would draw thousand of women to the ballpark. There has to be a statistic for this. Female Fan Attraction Power??
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
the boog and bombs show has appeared in the related posts sidebar
in case you wanted some background music with which to weep into your beer
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
stav over mather? i don't get it either
the cards could have really used a guy like mather. he plays 3rd base, and he plays the outfield a lot better than stav. it’s going to be depressing when we see mather in a braves uni at some stage…
remember the success baby?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
by d-dee on Nov 4, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
man, that joke really failed didn't it...
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Are you suggesting the success baby was fathered by Joe Mather?
'Hold my stones!'
"Ernie Hayes is up there playing with his organ again." - Mike Shannon
valid question, isn't it?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
by d-dee on Nov 4, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
of course he's his daddy, they have the same eyes & hair
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
That chin has some growing out to do.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
it's gonna be okay, VEP
we’re gonna extend Albert and then it’ll be okay.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
An Ode to Joe
Joe Bombs, Joe Bombs
We adore thee
High potential
Small returns
D-Dee’s heart melts right before thee
You could play right, first or third
Soothed the spring training anixousness
With a show about Boog and You
Injuries derailed progress
So we let you get away
Atlanta can now see your hottness
I hope you get a chance to play!
(as sung, very loosely, to the tune of Ode to Joy…it’s early)
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Nov 4, 2010 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
in the theme of baseball crazies
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/giantsvideo
the list of videos is along the sidebar. use your own judgment as to which is SFW.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 10:47 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
oops
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
trolling McC much?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
look who's talkin!
you look ready to move in
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
but that's okay
every now and then, everyone needs some sugar
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha that's right
i like happy places
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
brendan and joey .....sigh..... what will ryan do now ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w7Pb7JjvPE
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 4, 2010 11:33 AM EDT reply actions
brendan batting left handed ? who knew
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 4, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
He didn't want to mess up his swing.
Whoops.
I thought I told you to trim those sideburns!
by martimeryard on Nov 4, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
To whom it may concern
Move Brendan Ryan to the ground floor.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The miles stance was funny
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Nov 4, 2010 2:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This explains a lot....
http://www.hulu.com/watch/40212/the-simpsons-sip-of-alcohol
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
Totally Off Topic
But do any of you realize that Pedro Feliz was once the DH in a world series game 7? And that he “hit” .253/.281/.336 that season in 153 PA?
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
so THIS is what i wake up to?
WTF. what is the point of putting him on waivers? to clear a roster spot? and yet stav remains. DAMN YOU MO.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
because he was out of options and wasn't going to make the team
over any one of matt holliday, colby rasmus, jon jay or allen craig
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
That's only four players,
and none of them play third (sob).
How is a bench of Anderson, Mather, Greene, Craig/Jay, and someone not Stavinoha not acceptable?
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
because that's not a very good bench
in my version of the 2011 cardinals, we sign a couple of thames, giambi, wigginton, etc
which leaves no room for another outfielder
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
That's a better bench than,
Flop, Miles, Winn, Stavinoha, and someone stabbing you in the chest/
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
STL transaction wire
looks like the Cards had to activated Freese from the 60 day dl on Nov 2nd then tried to sneak Mather through waivers to remain at 40 players on the active roster. I personally would have tried to sneak Stav through waivers.
The Cards still have to clear room off the 40 man to protect players so we may see Stav outrighted in the next month.
but the fact still remains
if the sneak stav through waivers, the still have to put mather on waivers at some point prior to march 31 unless one of rasmus, craig or jay starts the year in memphis
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
more OT conversation
it is time for me to get rid of my 98 honda civic. what kind of car should i get? my only criteria are 1) japanese; 2) 2-door; 3) manual transmission; and 4) decently fast.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
maybe another civic?
I just got a civic (2005) a couple of years back and I’ve been really happy with it. I guess it might fail your #4 criterion, depending on what fast means to you.
youneverknow
i love my civic, too. but i think its time for a change
by decently fast i really just mean more than 117 HP, which is what i currently have. Maybe the civic si?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
love acura....they no longer make anything in a coupe
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I wonder what kind of lighting and camera tricks it takes to get a car to shine in that way
Or is it just photoshop? Airbrushing?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
the car is just that badass
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
i'd really like a 08 Type-S as a daily driver
the new ones are just too big & bulky. the faces of all the new Acura’s are just not attractve
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I agree
the new ones are just too big & bulky. the faces of all the new Acura’s are just not attractve
I have an 04 TL and love it. I hope it goes forever because I don’t like the looks of the new ones as well. I’d love to drive a Type-S, though.
Stupid offseason.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Nov 4, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
supposedly Honda hired a new car designer/engineer last year
and he’s very unhappy with how a big every model has gotten. he especially hates the front ends on all the Acura’s. so he is working on cutting the bulk & making every model better looking. but especially the Acura’s. Honda wants to get back to some of their more sporty roots. the engineers i know up here are pretty excited about the changes
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
oooh sounds good.
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
Velvet painting
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
I love this car.
I had an integra. It was so nice.
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
i wish they still made the integra
i almost bought a 1997 type R a few years back. it had a salvaged title
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I always wanted a Legend. I think they stopped making them in 1995 though.
Those cars were wonderful. I think Acura made a mistake switching to initials instead of names. So much fun to drive and very well made.
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
the last Integra model is the best one to get
my bro has a 94 & its alright, but nothing flashy. Honda never gave the USA the good Type R tho, jerks
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Wait for the 2012 Focus with my Ford Touch.
it is gonna be sweet…
nothing like the old one.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
Buy American!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yeah, like a Honda.
Mine was made in Ohio!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
yeah, but i bet i know someone who made it, how do you like it now?
i thought you just got a Volvo?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
That's the wife's whip.
I’m driving my 2001 Accord into the ground.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
that was my plan with the civic, but
opposing counsel saw it yesterday. i lost some credibility.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Soooo vain...
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
FYI, a Miata won't help at all with your street cred
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
it has to be better than an old civic with duct tape on the front bumper
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
to me, its not about having a fancy car, otherwise i would just go buy a beamer
its about having a car that is not a piece of shit.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
you're a damn lawyer
why don’t you just go buy a beamer? the epitome of class
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
they are shitty cars that dont last long and are expensive to fix
and terribly cliche
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Yeah I just had to get a ball bearing issue fixed on it
and it rides like a dream again. It’s really just a great car.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
they really are if practicality, ease of ownership & longevity
is what you need your car to be. you really can’t beat em
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
fuck maybe i should just get an accord
….coupe…with a v-6….hmmmm
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Thats what I have
leather, sun roof, etc etc etc. Aside from the dashboard design looking ten years old, it still runs/looks great.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
that sounds great.
damnit i love honda.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
the TL Type-S coupe is a pretty good good choice as well
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
the acura TL? when did they stop making those?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
i thought they were still making them
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
AFAIK, acura does not currently make a coupe
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
STI

Not a 2-door, but it meets your other three.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
STI is the only 4 door i would consider
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
MazdaSpeed3 is another 5-door hatch option.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
speed 3
that car cooks…. very quick.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
I like the looks of the Dodge Caliber, but probably meets none of your criteria
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 4, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
the SRT version was the only one worth having
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i love the STi so very very much, sooooo very happy the 4 door is back
i miss mine so much, i had an 04, best car i ever owned. it broke my heart when i had to get rid of it, i actually shed some tears.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Get a Honda S2000.
They’re pretty cheap used.
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
And
They have a sweet button start
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Nov 4, 2010 2:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
how do you turn them off?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Release the clutch
on first gear while stationary
I am sure the Walrus can play RF...
by Paulspike on Nov 4, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i really want either a miata or an s2000
but it seems irresponsible
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
do you have kids? if not, then it's not irresponsible
get something that you love, damn what other people think. it’s your car, buy & drive what you want. besides you live in the desert, aren’t all attractive women who live in the desert supposed to drive little convertibles?
one bad thing about those two is they have no torque, you really gotta wind them both up to get going. i know you’re probably used to that since you already have a civic, but i can’t stand driving a car with no torque. if it can’t get off the line without bouncing it off the rev limiter, i tell folks to not bother with them. especially if you’re getting a stick.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Yeah, this is true about the Miata
but once you get that baby going, no amount of hair gel will keep you from looking like Mo of the Three Stooges
I am sure the Walrus can play RF...
i don't have kids.
but someday i will. i think. i guess i’ve just been thinking that my next car should be kid friendly.
i’ve driven a miata and i’ve been in an s2000 – didn’t realize either had a torque problem. i need to do more test driving.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
let future IHB worry about kids & driving a soccer mom suv/wagon/crossover
enjoy your youth & freedom while you still can. get a sexy little rocket & have some fun!
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i like this.
so, G35 type s?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
unfortunately, the g35 has been ruined by its mass appeal.
I have an older Infiniti (G20 – awesome, awesome car), and my friend was one of the first people I saw with a g35. I thought it was really badass. But then everyone got one, including lots of tools, and it kind of ruined the car for me.
but they are so fun and attractive!
but you’re right, my stepmom even has one.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
i want this car
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
good luck with allllll that
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Ask your mom
she was in the back seat with me last night.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
by azruavatar on Nov 4, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
after you dug up her remains
you’re one sick robot…
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
Here in S. Colorado
the only car that’s overbought is the PT Cruiser, which you see like every other car. The HHR is not nearly as popular (too expensive? not sure), though there are a fair number of those, as well as VW Beetles. The community here is heavily latino, and lowrider-like cars tend to be the norm, thus the popularity of the Cruiser. Of course, pickups and big-ass SUVs are also common.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 4, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
if kids are on the horizon, you gotta go 4 door
otherwise you’ll need a chiropractor dealing w/ car seats, etc.
youneverknow
is like 3-4 years horizon?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
3-4 years? minivan.
minivan. just give up now, it’ll make the transition easier when the kids come and your life really is over.
the only mini van i'd ever buy is a MB R63 AMG
they only sent like 20 over here & they are all over $100K, but it’s worth every penny
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Not exactly a mini van
but Mercedes R class are awesome
Always late to the party
Kid friendly = 4 door.
I tote around a 4yo and 2yo in my ’09 Outback Sport — same body as the WRX/STI hatch.
Plenty of room.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
speed MIatas...
made em from about 2004 to 2005 they are turbo charged and very nice.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
zoom zoom
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I was reading quickly and I thought it was f'n zoomzoom that said that.
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
by spfldbird on Nov 4, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the Ferrari Daytona Spyder would like a word with you
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
by gdm426 on Nov 4, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and when he's done with you the Shelby Cobra would like to eat your soul
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
by gdm426 on Nov 4, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Can't find any comparison anywhere online
about any Miata aainst any Cobra. I do agree the Cobra might be better, but the Miata offers amazing value for a relatively low price.
I am sure the Walrus can play RF...
haha
do you want to know why you can’t find any comparisons? because they aren’t even on the same car planet, let alone in the same car universe. the Cobra will literally destroy your soul & you’ll love ever second of it. while the Miata is a.economical great bang for your buck modern take on the Alfa’s, MG’s & Healey’s of old.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Heh.
I once heard somewhere that the Miata was the proper English roadster…made by Japan.
(probably Top Gear)
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
that sounds like something Richard would say
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
in japan they sell a miata coupe
i would buy that in a hot minute if they sold them in the states
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
the miata is a coupe?
did I miss something?
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
not a hard top from the factory
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
this is true....
is the one in japan not a convertible at all?
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
yeah thats what i was trying to say. not a convertible, just a coupe
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
ah just saw it...
very sexy. can’t believe i had never seen one I only sold em for 5 years…
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
so everyone else is on the same page

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
that is very pretty
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
i was thinking like the only real downside to the miata is that you definitely want the soft top, but then you run into concerns about rain/theft/etc.
the hard top convertibles dont look great.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
well ...
tops down most of the time anyways right?
I liked the GT in a hard top in Red.
some colors look better than others.
Get an RX8 those are super fun to drive.
they have a wankel in them.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
I was selling 09s not too long ago.
you mean an rx7?
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
i would much rather have an rx-7
don’t love the look of the rx-8
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
supposedly they are coming out with a RX9
in a year or so that will be a coupe again and closer to what the 7 was…
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
that would be amazing.
i keep hearing they are bringing the toyota supra back…
wtf is up with toyota anyway, they literally don’t have a sports car anymore
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
damn i missed some but you get the idea
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
That the FT-86?
The Toyota/Subaru collaboration?
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
no
supposed to be a rendering of Mazdas new RX9
looks like the photo shopped on top of a Nissan Z though. if you Google images there are a few more.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
see its shit like this that make me think maybe i should wait on buying a new car
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
no, don't wait
that car probably will never be made. Toyota is totally screwing it up. and if it is made, it will be a Subaru & it won’t be here till 2015
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
that toyota...
not in love with the lines. to boxy around the corners for me.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
Right. The Subaru concept looks better
at least to me.
But reading up on it, it does sure seem like they’ve done a good job mucking it up.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
they have been focusing too much
on the LF & the ISF & all the other F’s for Lexus. they & Subaru are working on a coupe, but the more Toyota messes with it, the more it sucks
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Nope. The Rx-8 is being cancelled after next year (2011)
Probably to launch the new Rx-7 (Rx-9)
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
yeah....the was the pic I attempted to post
few rendering this looked like the best one.
going from a 1.3 rotor motor to a 1.8
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
that's what she said.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
miata versus cobra...
better be a speed version and then your only hope is that its all turns and curves once you get to a straight away the cobra will shoot by.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
I have a 4 door '10 civic and it's great
and they make 2 door
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Nov 4, 2010 2:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nissan Skyline GT-R R35, Nissan Z Nismo, 2011 4 door STi, Mitsu Evo X
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i can't wait to get my hands on a R34, the stupid f'ing inport laws need to be changed now
waiting 15 years is f’ing stupid. if farking canada can have them, why the holy F can’t we?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I also am going to ask this question
but I am a poor lad, so I don’t need 2) and 4)…and fuck it, I don’t need 3) either.
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
I love the Mobil1 decal
pronounced “deck-ul”
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
Note the hood scoop...
This is the Sport Edition.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
I actually saw a car yesterday that looked somewhat like this, but not
it was an import, and it was a hatchback, but it also had what looked like trunk space under the back seat. It drove away before I could see what the fuck it was.
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
you wanna buy a 98 civic?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
only 108k miles, runs perfect. duct tape on the bumper though.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
i haven't thought about it yet.
if i spend the $800 to get the body work fixed, i don’t think that means i can sell it for $800 more.
maybe like $2k?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
thats a good price
a little body work is not to hard to do
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
yeah
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
for 2K I will drive down from CO and take it off of your hands
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
wow, really?
well, first i have to buy a new car.
then i have to check KBB to see if i’m way undervaluing my car.
but then maybe we have a deal.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
you could probably get $4500 for it
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
stay away from KBB, Edmunds.com is the best real world
measure of what a used cars value should be
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i should also mention it is an HX and gets 30-35 mph
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
$4500 is the top end i might add
$3500 – $4000 is more reasonable. you probably wouldn’t get more than $2000-$2500 if you traded it in
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i gotta sell it. i would not expect to get more than a grand if i traded it in.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
it all depends on where you go & what you buy
and how much they want to sell you a car
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
fix it and sell it advrtise on craigslist
say you will give $300 plus parts try to find a Junk yard that has a bumper in your color
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
the duct tape has me leaning towards this
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
I drive a Saturn. Yay!
It is cheap and has the best damn air vents in a car that I have ever seen. They are simple and intuitive to point in whatever direction you want. And Saturn made buying a car not a pain in the ass. “Here’s what it costs. If you want to buy it for that price we’ll sell it to you for that price. We know you don’t want to haggle and we don’t want to do it either.”
I’ll miss Saturn.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
We have a Saturn Ion and love it.
5 years / 150k+ miles
The electrics are bad, but it gets better mpg’s than the Subaru.
I’m also gonna miss Saturn, but GM screwed them up so badly. Wish Penske had been able to buy them; would like to have seen a Penske Sky or Astra.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
That would have been nice
I’ve got a 2006 Ion. I am just not the kind of person who want flashiness in a car, and the Ion is exactly what I wanted. A simple car that carries me places pretty reliably.
Although the Sky was pretty sweet looking.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
gti
or if eastern is necessary, then a kia
koupe or genesis coupe
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
i wouldn't get the Genesis Coupe till they put the V8 in it
but i doubt IHB cares, the 6 is a good enough engine, i’m just a firm believer of moar powar
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Heh. Size isn't everything.
(Obligatory.)
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
in bed
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 5, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
What about a Lexus SC 430 or the newer one?
Convertible with a hard top, expensive as hell (40k minimum, going up into the 70s I’m sure). Very plush. Kind of too-plush if you really get into your driving.
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
lexus doesnt make a manual in the sc 420 which is just ridiculous
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
er...430
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
This
Also, Nick Stavinoha is still on the roster
Is the worst part of this whole affair. In what universe is Stav a better baseball player than Joey Bombs?
agreed.
stav, in all honesty, is about as bad a major league ballplayer as you can find. i remember watching him last july 4th weekend and shaking my head after he overthrew 2nd (when t. greene was there), missed a fly ball that should have been caught and went 0 for 4. (not to mention that the 9th inning lineup was one of the worst ever in the history of TLR and featured stav at 1st)
he's terrible
but I hear he’s a swinger
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
i feel sad
that Joey Bombs scores more tributes than Ryan Ludwick
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Ludwick got love,
and he left for one very good reason: We couldn’t afford him. Bombs was free and his competition is Stav.
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
i'm talking about tributes.
I didn’t say anything about why he left.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you mean within veb or what?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
yep
I mean, this seems like an odd place to object to talking about a player, yet there’s always this bloc of “stfu, cry moar” because the player wasn’t valuable to the team going forward. on the day the player leaves, even.
by that logic, if we can’t afford Pujols, he doesn’t get any commemoration? we’re not all robots here.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ludwick had his own fanpost.
Mather doesn’t have one yet…also, Mather was just hotter and more likable than Ludwick, who looked like Bueller’s friend Cameron from FBDO and didn’t make an awesome video series.
Ludwick was dramatically more talented, and had more nicknames, and gunned runners down from right and had the craziest batting stance routine on the team, but he was also dealt to acquire something. Mather was let go for not much reason.
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
sbn has shut down its search today, so can't check right now.
1. thus, I feel sad. Ludwick contributed more, for longer, and that fanpost was written by me days later. IIRC it didn’t have any comments talking about what people remembered about Luddy.
2. how they were let go should not matter. it does not affect the emotional reaction. that has nothing to do with it, and I disagree that stats are the only things we remember from a player for the Cardinals.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and for the last time
I never mentioned anything in this thread about why they departed. it’s immaterial.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I dont know.
I mean I feel like Mather was practically betrayed by the team, and I feel like it was a terrible roster move considering how many people we have who he is better than.
Ludwick was traded for a player that I liked. That definitely dulls the sting.
If Mather had been traded for Chad Gaudin, I would have been much less concerned with it.
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
no, Ludwick was trade for Cory Kluber and Nick Greenwood
i still seethe about this trade.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
maybe i'm misremembering
but i seem to recall a LOT of dismay among VEB at ludwick’s departure. and a lot of shock. and anger. and tears.
i mean, i don’t know, to me this mather stuff doesn’t seem even close to that.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
it's the tribute part
i grant that did happen but like i said… luddy deserves at least that much, and there were people on the first day essentially saying all that emotion was unnecessary.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's because. . .
Ludwick was relevant in a baseball sense, and so the transaction had actual on-field ramifications. Losing Mather really doesn’t.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 4, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't think anyone was saying don't mourn the loss of a great dude
but i think it was more like, take a step back from your emotions for a minute and look at the ways in which this move might actually benefit our team.
this is mostly speculation, my memory is hazy
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
You have got to be kidding.
We ranted and raved for days when Ludwick was traded. Every other post ended in -wick. At least that is what I remember.
Bombs became a favorite because of the shenanigans (and good looks) as much as for baseball skill.. I was hoping he could still turn it around, but time was not on his side.. But still, I would have given one more opportunity to Mather over Stav any day.
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
Ludwick also left during the season.
We all were too busy blowing up at the team blowing up to really think about him.
There’s no baseball right now, so it can be 24/7 Mather.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
that's bull
lots of people were upset that Luddy left.
now, sadly, I cannot do an sbn search, but there were some who wanted those people to shut up. the thing is, not everything on VEB is an irrational reaction to the statistical value of players. some of it is a natural reaction to the, you know, the ballgame and the players who play it.
so my original statement stands. VEB’s general population is much lower during the off-season. and in the first 24 hours, it’s saddening to me (that’s an opinion, folks, you don’t actually have to argue with me over it) that Ryan Ludwick didn’t get the tribute that Joe Mather’s getting right now.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ludwick is what, like, 4 times better than Mather? or maybe 6 times better?
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 4, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, and it's not that I don't think Joey deserves it
but Luddy deserved as much, too.
it just kind of got swept away, and I’m sorry, as annoying as the season was, it was kind of lame that we didn’t really stop and take a look back at all the other seasons. ok, I wrote a song, but that was kind of lame in itself.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ce la vie, luddy
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 4, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i think luddy was a little more private person and a lot more player than bombs
we really didn’t know much about his private life and seen much of him in his free time
joe mather for us is more joey bombs – boog’s best friend, one half of our favorite show, goofy, good-looking, funny; and less the player joe mather
see where i’m going with this? it’s probably easier to get more attached to someone whose character you know more about
also, there’s nothing else going on right now, no baseball, no real contract talks, fa drama, nothing
i am quite surprised though that i was more sad that luddy left at the time than i am now
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
well yeah... like I said above, it's not that Joey doesn't deserve it
I just think Luddy deserves at least that much.
that’s why it makes me sad, because Ryan Ludwick was a rock. he didn’t have to be. I mean, before he got picked up, he was that close to going to Japan.
I understand the dynamics of off-season VEB, but it just still makes me sad. he deserves more. ….wick.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
just because he's a forgettable player doesn't mean he should be forgotten.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
who says he's forgettable?
we keep toying with the idea he might return
i myself followed him for the rest of the season, which is more than i did for say, felipe lopez
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
I was rooting for the Pads to get in the post season
So Luddy would have a chance to shine for them.
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
i believe the reaction to Luddy leaving was more outright fury
than love. That’s because, while Mather was nice and all, Luddy was necessary.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
again, I'm not talking about how they left.
like I said, this makes no sense to me. so if Albert Pujols is no longer a viable option for the team, we’re just not going to celebrate everything he did because the ratio of his WAR to cost to the team makes it the logical choice?
If I’m saying VEB, hey, your priorities are screwed up, then so be it. weeks or months later, no, it’s probably wearing thin a tiny violin (as I am). on the first day of departure, yeah. that’s kinda screwed up.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you can't tribute anyone when you're too busy screaming obscenities at your computer screen.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
true enough
we never really stopped, though. (unless you scream obscenities all the time, to which I say: have a drink of water).
and it’s even sadder that Gaslamp reportedly doesn’t appreciate what they have.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
well then,
allow me to say that I miss Luddy much more than I will miss Joe Mather. I’m pretty much ‘meh’ about this whole ordeal anyway.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
whereas with Luddy, I had to go take a walk
it was such tremendous bullshit.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
also true
i did shed quite a few tears when we lost luddy though, i just didn’t advertise it
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
yeah, me too.
it ruined my entire day.
Gritty Proven Veteran
by RosevilleRedbird on Nov 4, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
it lingered with me for quite a while
and the sad interviews fsnmw did on his way out and when he came back to stl didn’t help either. i was strangely irrational about it
i did get to personally ask luddy though if they were treating him well and he said that they treated him great and he was happy and moved on so that ended the sadness for me
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
I think Ludwick being traded during the season had something to do with the pereceived disparity
I loved Ludwick, he was one of my favorite players. JoeyBombs was a goofball with some talent. Yet, I’ve probably posted more about Bombs leaving than Studwick.
But during the season, especially a depressing one, there’s alot more to bitch, moan or talk about. If Bombs would’ve been traded/released during the season, there would not be near as much of a outpour.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
well I'm sayin'
it’s not the season anymore. (and, again, I have thought about difference in times, and that’s just not what bothers me so much). and I don’t want to take anything away from Joe (sorry Joey). it just strikes me as sad, in a meta way.
basically we’re saying us being so pissed off was — even months later — more important than stepping back and having a moment for Ryan Ludwick. I mean really, compare it to the mentions of Austin Wilson. there’s just something wrong with that picture.
and as for Bombs, yes there would’ve. at least in regards to Boog (I almost typed ‘Ryan’).
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, Ludwick deserves a large amount of appreciation.
I might still be in the Denial Stage.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
there is, of course, the other possibility
in that we’re subconsciously waiting for Mo to fail to sign Westbrook
which would mean
well.
9/10/2010 0.2 3 3 3 1 0 0 40.50
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It may have been that Cardinal nation
was already expecting to lose Luddy because of the contract issue, thus it wasn’t as much of a shock when he was traded. Plus, as much as he contributed to the Cardinals, they didn’t have much post-season (or even regular season) success during his tenure.
Mather is more of a guilty pleasure issue. No real team related loss, just personal. It’s less painful to lose Mather, thus easier to express.
I want more... More baaaacon!
Jim Gaffigan
by blueinmemphis on Nov 4, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I was personally in that too upset to talk about it place back then
Wick
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Nov 4, 2010 2:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you're clearly not paying attention dude
Luddy is still missed & talked about. hell some even mention bringing him back. we all miss Luddy & hated how & why he was dealt.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
thanks for saying i'm not paying attention.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
in which case
show it to me.
show me the tribute post.
if sbn were working, i’d go look for it. this is my point.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so you don't consider the day he was traded thread a tribute?
i’m sorry dude, i don’t get what you’re saying
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
oh geez
I have to go do other things (maybe even outside the basement)
reread this thread, I can’t keep repeating myself.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
alright, i read it all again & i just think you're wrong
maybe wasn’t a thread titled “In Loving Tribute to Jack A Dong Wick”, but that doesn’t mean VEB hasn’t mourned his loss or talked about why we loved him so much
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
by gdm426 on Nov 4, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I also don't understand why this is even a big deal
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
ya, i'm lost, even more than usual
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Well you're on here 10 hours sooner than normal
That might explain it
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
this is what happens when i have to be up before noon
and i run out of stuff to do online after potential jobs get done screwing with me
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Talking Chop
Was going to congratulate them on getting a fun player but you have to wait 3 damn days to post.
Sad to see him go, he’s one of those guys you want to see succeed. Hopefully the wrist is healed and he fights his way into their lineup.
12 NL teams passed on Mather
before Atlanta picked him up. So I do think Mo was trying to sneak Mather through the waiver wire when he had to make a corresponding move to activating Freese from the 60 day DL.
IMO the comparison was more of Mather vs Rule 5 eligible players then Mather vs Stav decision. In other words, Mather was probably going to be moved off the 40 man roster between now and ST.
Maybe I could do that
I have accounts with all of the team sites already.
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
I don't really have much reason to fret about Mather being cut from the roster
but reading that Nick Stavinoha is looming in the background for 2011 just pisses me off. that dude should have been cut before 2010!!!!!!!!!!
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 4, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions
Breaking News.
Sparky Anderson has passed away. A baseball legend, indeed.
I am sure the Walrus can play RF...
oh geez
:(
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
they just reported this morning they moved him to hospice
that went really quick
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Oddly appropriate for the man nicknamed Captain Hook
RIP, sir.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
..
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101104&content_id=15996288
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/news/story?id=5764168
originally pub’d 2006: http://www.freep.com/article/20101104/SPORTS02/101103087/Sparky-Anderson-talks-Tigers-life-after-baseball-
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
RIP Good sir.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
A man of words.
Quotes from and about Sparky Anderson.
Notable ones:
“I refuse to call a forty-seven year old man Sparky.” – Umpire Al Clark
“The man I marvel at is the one that’s in there day after day, and night after night and still puts the figures on the board. I’m talking about Pete Rose, Stan Musial, the real stars. Believe me, especially the way we travel today, flying all night with a game the next night and then the next afternoon, if you can play one-hundred and sixty-two games, you’re a man.”
“I can’t believe they pay us to play baseball – something we did for free as kids.”
I am sure the Walrus can play RF...
hopefully not a prescient one
I got a kick out of them when they used to say baseball is dying, and football is No. 1. I hate to break the sad news to football, but nothing will ever take the place of baseball. When it goes bad, call me, because I won’t be around, but I can be reached under the ground.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
slightly ot: new avatar
while searching for a pic for my new avatar, i stumbled onto the exact tie-dye shirt i’m wearing today.
/it’s just asking for an “f’n zoomzoom’”
Also according to MLBRumors.com Bill Hall is available....
to play…well, everywhere. None of it very well, but he does have that coveted 15-20 HR power…
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
how does his defense at 2nd base compare to skip's?
seems like he might be just as good at D but better with the bat.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 4, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
if you had told me a couple of years ago that neight Barton nor Mather would pan out
would probably would have flat out called you crazy. but since then I’ve learned a thing or two about the volatility of prospects.
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 4, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions
wtf
neight = neither
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 4, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
must have lapsed into my ancestry
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 4, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Your grandparents were middle English?
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Nov 4, 2010 6:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I dunno, a lot of my ancestry is English
the Clark side is more English, and the Bowles side (this is just my dad’s side of the family) once was from France, from what I understand from family member’s research into genealogy. as far as middle english, I’m not exactly sure what that means I guess, other than it is an older form right? anyways, it was funny that I wrote that, no idea why since I don’t really know middle english!
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 5, 2010 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Read this

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
thisse bee a familie blogge
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whan that Aprille with his shoures soote
The droghte of Marche hath perced to the roote,
And bathed every veyne in swich licour,
Of which vertu engendred is the flour;
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
I've read part of it
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 5, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Barton?
I think Daric Barton is a pretty good player. Maybe you had other expectations than I did?
by WizardofOz1982 on Nov 4, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Brian Barton
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 4, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
That Barton
Guess I’m just still smarting from the Mulder trade. I’d forgotten all about Brian Barton. I wasn’t ever really impressed with him though.
by WizardofOz1982 on Nov 4, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
he was a top #100 prospect at one point.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
Brian's 2009 mlb season
was Moonlight Graham like. No PA’s just one pinch runner/defensive appearance. And he was caught stealing after being put in to pinch run
B-R doesn’t have any stats for 2010 so he may be out of baseball.
Yeah, I think the Atlantic League
Newark? (The only team I can think of right now.)
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
There's a sitcom waiting to be written there.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
Biggest A-hole in Sports lately...
:=8/
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
MooCow Resonds with Cow Pies!
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My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
“Hey, dawg. It’s on, dawg. You dead, dawg. I ain’t even bull*****g. Your kids too, dawg. It don’t even matter to me who is in the car with you. ******, all I know is, ******, when I see your mother******* ass riding, dawg, it’s on. As a matter of fact, I’m coming to your mother*******g house.”
MooCow Pulls Out Taser...
ZZZZZZZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPP!!!!!
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
"Oh, Daryle!"
/end scene
/insert laughtrack
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
Can we work in Tonya Harding while we're at it?
she needs the work…
;=8)
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
hey moocow, pay your handegg fantasy league dues
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 4, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Like Albert Belle. . .
minus the talent
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 4, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
He was just arrested a few days ago on contempt-of-court
charges for failure to pay child support to two women. What a stand-up guy.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 4, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
did you see that one episode where barton was explained the trajectory of the ball and
how speed of bat is an important in distance.
-“do you mean the one after elijah dukes stormed the filed to take out 5 pitchers in the bullpen the win the championship?”
-no that one was the episode after spiezo wrecked bartons spaceship after a night of wreckless drunk flying.
Every episode ends with it being Ward's fault.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
awesome
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 4, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Brian and Joe just LOOKED like great ballplayers
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 4, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
there was the wrist, though
no one foresaw that.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
right, I know
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 4, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
that's why we probably shouldn't have dropped the guy
wrists can take a while to heal
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 4, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Problem is
sometimes a wrist NEVER heals completely.
I’ll miss him, and wish him well in Atlanta (except in Cardinals games), but this was right for the team.
StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
by StanTheManFan on Nov 4, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 5, 2010 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Not much info...
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
it's nothing new
and there’s still likely the caveats that he wants to sign with st louis only if they build a team that he believes can sufficiently contend and they offer to make him the highest paid player in the game
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
oh i know this.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
my suspicion is that his two prerequisites form a dichotomy
let’s hope at least part of his position is posturing. there’s just no way the cards can afford more than, say, 6/160
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
two questions
1. wth if usa today covering albert pujols
2. if he wants an extension now, WHY AREN’T THEY TALKING TO HIM?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
was there no joe strauss live this week?
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
if it ain't broke...
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
More from Mather
“Thank you, the biggest thing would be thank you.” Mather directed towards the fans. “Cardinals’ fans were always great to me, my family and friends. I’d be very surprised if I found better fans than the Cardinals anywhere. I’ll miss them and the love and support that I received; I’ll always respect and be a fan of Cardinals fans. They’re awesome, I’m going to miss you all and thanks again.”
I am sure the Walrus can play RF...
tearing up over here
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
that's nice of him to say.
i can only imagine he left a hand-written letter for Boog.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Nov 4, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"I know that you gave me this ring pop in good faith, and in good faith it was received.
But I want you to have it. Words cannot capture the bond that existed between us…"
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 4, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I'm gonna cry. Where did you find that?
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
i cheered for joey bombs
in a game memphis @ round rock game. good times
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twatter
i 'shot it, if you don't mind
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
VEB Tribute day to 2001: excellent
VEB: Open De Wallet, Mo
Mo: VEB, I’m afraid I can’t do that
VEB: What’s the problem
Mo: I think you know what the problem is, just as well as I do VEB
VEB: What are you talking about Mo
Mo: Mr Dewitt’s mission is far too important to allow you to jeapordize it VEB
VEB: What do you mean Mo
Mo: I know you were planning on whipping up a frenzy on this site to sign Pujols, Beltre, Westbrook and Crawford
VEB: Where the hell di you get that idea Mo
Mo: Although this web is very secure I have access to the emails between the moderators
VEB: alright Mo, but then we’ll be forced to call Jack Clark to get on your case
Mo: You’ll have to find Jack Clark first — and don’t even think about calling Strauss — we’ll take care of him too
VEB; Spend the money Mo
Mo: This conversation can serve no purpose anymore VEB
Mo: Without
Just win
Mo does not have the ability to open DeWallet
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
What the fuck are we, Viva el CARdos today?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
today has been a weird day
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
It's the beginning of baseball withdrawal syndrome.
very serious. can only be cured in Late Winter/Early Spring.
Gritty Proven Veteran
by RosevilleRedbird on Nov 4, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Today was even more off-topic than late night VEB
And let’s just say late night VEB gets nutty.
LITERALLY. LIKE BALLS.
No I’m kidding. There’re no balls.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
it probably doesn't help when you just post comments titled "boobs"
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I never claimed to help =)
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i know even less about cars than i do baseball
it’s been a sad purposeless day for me
so i worked..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
i love cars & baseball, it's been a VEB heaven for me today
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
oh go to hell
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
and yet somehow you're still complaining about the cold weather..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
hell has many levels with all kinds of weather
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
well here's some on-topic news
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Meh. I'd rather have Bombs
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
sure, in bed
but on the diamond the correct answer is Albert F Pujols
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
by gdm426 on Nov 4, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know... I think WAR overrates Pujols and underrates Joey Bombs
It doesn’t properly value DAR
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Leach tweets.
Talked to someone from Pujols’ camp, who confirmed that No. 5 did say what he was reported to have said: http://bit.ly/byk6WT #stlcards
I am sure the Walrus can play RF...
so do it, bitches
c’mon, 10 years, 280 mil. Get this motherfucker done.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
10 years?!?!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Would you put it past him?
He’s already been the best player in the history of baseball in their first ten years (THIS CAN NOT BE OVERSTATED ENOUGH)… who is to say he can’t do it for another decade?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
can't tell if serious
in any event, i just think 8 years would be better
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Not really serious
but at the same time, if they offered him 10 years, I would not be upset.
Six years with a bunch of options is perfect in my book, but that ain’t happening.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
i would put it past him
he will not be worth $28MM at age 41
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
who knows what 28MM will be worth though
hmmm? not so smart now, hmmm?
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
No but he may be worth 60 Milliion
at the age of 33 which would make a bad season at the age of 41 even out.
And, honestly, I’d put money in vegas that he’ll be worth 28M in ten years if they’d offer it.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
think Albert has a 12 WAR season in him?
it’s possible.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
Yeah
I don’t put anything past him.
We take his greatness for granted — honestly, if he played in a few other markets, SBN would have a Pujols only blog — and I think he is totally underrated by most fans, including Carindals fans… he is the GREATEST PLAYER IN THE HISTORY OF HIS SPORT THROUGH HIS FIRST TEN YEARS.
But, to us, ee’s just Alber, mang.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
i think even Albert knows he's the GOAT

Yo Fritz, i’ng numba oneg mang
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
by gdm426 on Nov 4, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i think he's declining
and the 8-9 WAR years are behind him
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twatter
Let's just give him a 100 year contract,
so that by the end we will all be dead, meaning we won’t have to worry about what happens to the team after the contract ends.
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
wait wait, don't rush it
where are the AJ and Ezra Pujols clauses??
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
if the cards are smart, they'll get it done.
i sure hope the front office doesn’t twittle their thumbs at this. i’d rather the cards get it done now so we don’t have to fret anymore. plus, methinks that bert may sign somewhere else if he doesn’t get the extension this go-round.
!
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"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
#tweetyour16yearoldself
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
whoa, is that a recent pic?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
And he still has four buttons in his head (not a metal plate, as the rumor goes).
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 4, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
d-dee.......
I guess we bought a camera today.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
oh my... allow me to be a little jealous
you’ll love it
make sure to read the manual, you’ll be amazed what all you can learn from it
okay, i am a lot jealous
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
I'll get to try it out this weekend.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
tell me where you'll be and i'll drive by with an unmarked van...
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
You should get on the road then.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
what do you think of the
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i would actually like to have that one myself
but i often get too close to the action to use a telephoto that starts at 70 mm
that why i was talking about a combo lens, but that’s only to suit my needs. i’ve tried this lens out before and it’s quite good, you’ll like it
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
no need for a tripod if you hold steady
the IS should take care of the rest
it is a little slow but for shooting kid’s sports it’ll be enough until there’s enough money to upgrade
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
little league and hockey.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
well little league should be easy
so much light during summer and days it’ll be hard to mess up (unless they’re under lights; then wtf kind little league is going down?)
hockey could be tricky, not as well lit, and REALLY fast. i don’t expect IS will save you
the sport photogs i know prefer fast lenses (lenses with really wide apatures 1.8-2.8 range) so they can crank their shutter speeds way up to prevent motion blur (and it gives them more bokeh options)
by YesWeOquendo on Nov 4, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, we'll see how it does this weekend.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
it's kids' hockey isn't it?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Ours play High School,
but a lot of the tournaments are all different ages playing throughout the day.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i've shot bullpen sessions at busch at night
with a similar telephoto and if you get your settings right, there will be little to no blur that is easy to fix
just shoot more pictures and you’ll have enough good ones to pay off the equipment and eventually be able to upgrade
it would have been irresponsible on my part to tell you to invest 10k in really good equipment if you don’t know if this endeavor will pay off at all
it took me a while to figure out the best settings so if the first session is not mindblowing, don’t get discouraged
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Absolutely,
I had no idea she was going to pull the trigger, and she picked it out, I just passed on what we talked about. All in all, I think she set herself up with an awesome setup, that can always be upgraded.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
get in line behind my van, friendo
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Also, it will be mine….heheheheheh
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Also, the body came
with this, which is faster, and still has plenty of zoom for the rinks around here.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i see you're still kinda learning
that’s cool, those to lenses will be great to toy around with and figure out your camera. that 7D is a a hell of a shooter. way better than anything i have.
did you buy you’re lense from opticsplanet? when i buy online i usually go with B&H
at some point, if you stick with it, you’ll start to be limited by those two lenses though. especailly hockey. that’s really tough stuff. i’ve a buddy who shoots blues games and he spends hours putting and maintaining strobes in the ceiling, just because there’s so little light inside.
good luck. you’ll have a blast
how do you like how it feels in you’re hands? i have a 40d (almost the same body) and it’s a bit to small, so i had to buy a battery grip. best 100 i’ve spent.
by YesWeOquendo on Nov 5, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
no, she got the package at best buy,
but Optics planet just had better descriptions.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
also, I haven't even seen it yet. Tomorrow.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
well for fucks sake make her put a filter on it
cracked glass is a terrible thing
by YesWeOquendo on Nov 5, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
this
and circular polarizer for little league games, the moms will eat the colors up
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
ya, we just talked about filters....
we’ll order them, but she wanted the camera this weekend, and from everything I’ve seen, she got a good deal on everything. Also, plus side of this, all the traveling we do for hockey is now tax deductible.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Bernie talked to Derek Lilliquist today
listen here if it tickles your fancy
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I'm enjoying it
but not the limited sunlight.
I will hate both with a burning passion by mid January though.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
It was 95 degrees here today
95!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Best part of this thread:
Someone actually went through and recced all of Y2S’s posts
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
someone?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
And ah helped!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 4, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
this is a family blog
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2010 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this is how i choose to remember Joey Bombs

as one giant sexy man playing a child’s game like it was meant to be played
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
chris iannetta agrees
that glove had is conspicuously absent in mather’s “giant sexy man” region
by YesWeOquendo on Nov 4, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly, even he can't look away
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
brian wolson is on with jay leno tonight
if anyone is up fore some comedy
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
HFS I think Dan O'Dowd just figured out a way
to trade a sandwich pick
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
HFS
the Blue Jays could potentially wind up with eight picks inside of the top 50 selections in this year’s draft.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Blue Jays, your 2016 World Series Champions!!
Haha, screw you Yankees and Red Sox
I am sure the Walrus can play RF...
b-weezy a little more mellow on leno
still mighty awesome
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
scratch that
that had nothing to do with mellow
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
you can see the full show if anyone is interested for the next few days
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
i have to be up in 6hrs, WTF can't i go to sleep?
oh that’s right. i love it when women torture me. f’ing gdm
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Sounds kinky...
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
no, no it's not, i'm just an idiot who's too dumb to move on
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i,,,,i,,,,i,,,, just miss him soooo very much!
i mean, i didn’t even get a chance to say goodbye! i just woke up, and he was gone,,,,
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
call a hooker
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
That's no way for a lady to talk...
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
i dont care how desperate i get, i will never ever ever ever EVAR pay for sex
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Cash may not always change hands,
but we all pay for it, one way or another.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Nov 5, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ya, but that's a lot different than leaving a wad of $50's on the nite stand
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
again...
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
i told you that in confidence fritz!
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
then just don't pay them, what can they get you for Theft of Services?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Pimps
There are actual legitimate reasons why a hooker would want a pimp. It’s all the negative ones that give those gentlemen a bad name.
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
well pimps don't exactly have access to the Interpol Database
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
I think we've all been there before...
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
i really need to move on, this is just pathetic
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Happy Guy Fawkes Day
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
no politics
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
Happy Half Way to Cinco de Mayo???
or as I call it Half Way to Guy Fawkes Day…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
happy halfway to halfway to Guy Fawkes Day
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
Something like that...
I’m officially drunk… yeah that’s right I find crazy holidays and turn them into drinking holidays… it’s how I roll.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
oh please
it’s Ozzie 36.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fawkes you

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
by TBender on Nov 5, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey you...
stop stealing my facebook profile picture for the day.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Remember, remember
…the Fifth of November…
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 5, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Kids, don't be this writer
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
alright, one more try at sleep but if i can't screw it i'm pulling an all nighter
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I think you missed a comma.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
haha
i think he actually didn’t
come on, it’s gdm
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Albert wants to stay a Cardinal
just to reiterate.
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 5, 2010 2:20 AM EDT reply actions
I don't think anything really changed
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
yeah what did he say that he hasn't said before?
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
i am also shocked.
i’m shocked people are choosing to blather on about stupid Straussian shit rather than discuss the possibility of the Greatest Player Alive returning to the club.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
someone should have foreseen this
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It is the time of year to posture for money
While I appreciate what PUjols said, I totally expect him and his agent to make multiple statements exactly like this.
You milk the existing cow before abandoning it for a cow in, say, New York or Los Angeles or wherever.
When a player like Albert says "I want to work out an extension before the season starts"
I think that’s cause for celebration. He has done a little bit of posturing, to be sure: he wants to make sure the team is competitive, win championships, etc. But in my opinion Albert has been about as clear as he can that he wants to stay without totally screwing up any leverage he has. He has said multiple times he wants to stay in St. Louis. He has not said “I want to stay here no matter what, I’ll take a huge discount, I’ll convince Ryan Zimmerman to demand a trade here and Cliff Lee to come for an affordable contract too because such are my awesome powers,” but I think it’s obvious he sincerely wants to stay and work out something agreeable. I am confident he’ll remain a Cardinal. And that makes me very happy.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I just wish we knew more about it.
Is the FO actually discussing terms? What is a possible range of offers and prices? Is the FO ready to sign him this offseason? Are they addressing other matters first and then approach Albert? WIll Albert refuse to discuss contract talks once Spring Training arrives?
All we know is he wants to stay in St. Louis if the opportunity presents itself. Hell, not even Matt Leach knows anything about this. To me, it’s not news until it is news.
I am sure the Walrus can play RF...
IMO, both parties are negotiating the right way
by keeping the details out of the media. Sucks from a fan’s point of view, but I don’t believe press releases on contract discussions have a positive influence on negotiations.
DeWitt and team have stated their desire to keep Albert and Albert has stated his desire to stay.
This what I'm assuming (or hoping if you prefer, I'll admit there's lot of wishful thinking on my part)
Though, I can’t remember how much and how early leaked out about the Holliday contract. I don’t even know if that would be a good comparison, maybe they’re taking extra steps with Albert to prevent as much information about the negotiating from getting out, who knows.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Contrariwise, the Pads have officially stated that Adrian Gonzalez won't be offered an extension.
I know that’s what most people expected, but its got to be a punch in the gut for Padres fans.
I really don’t want to experience that myself. Please extend Pujols, Unca Mo.
meh.
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Ouch indeed.
I’m torn. Gonzalez is an awesome player and I like the idea of him staying with that franchise. On the other hand, playing in a different home park could possibly show more people how awesome he is.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Most under-appreciated player today?
I told my son a couple of years ago, he’s the best player in baseball that no one knows.
meh.
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Could be
Ryan Zimmerman has a case for it too, in my opinion.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Imagine if the Nats sign Agon next year
that gives them the best corner IF in baseball
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Agon could be an 8 War hitter outside of Petco
ZIm that would be a tough beat
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
SHIN SOO CHOO GODDAMMIT
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
rentaria does not get an option to come back to Giants next year, reported
on the SF sports news last night, although i think he wants to retire anyway it seems a little harsh to release your MVP 2 days after winning the whole show.
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 5, 2010 10:03 AM EDT reply actions
well he did tearfully tell the whole team he was retiring
it would be weird if he didn’t.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What if he was just having fun out there?
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
Did you notice that he stabbed himself in the eye with the trophy while hugging Bochy ?
on my big flatscreen you could see his eyelid bleeding. I think everyone thought he was wiping away tears but the dude almost put his eye out with the MVP trophy !
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 5, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
New rule:
Don’t run with scissors WS MVP trophies.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
no wonder wilson was handling that thing with gloves
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
you gonna join facebook now?
http://www.ajc.com/sports/fans-want-wilson-to-720736.html
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
don't you judge me!!
heh
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
i'm freaking out, man
I’M FREAKING OUT
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2010 10:24 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
why
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 5, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
aaaaaaaaaahhhhh
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
attention whore
WHORE!
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
then the girl comes out of the well and kills me!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ok, I seem to be safe for n—
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's what happens when you hang out around wells
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
more bacon
knowing VEB’s love for bacon this may have been mentioned already. Bacon Soda
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
Should have known it was Jones Soda
They’ve done Thankgiving Dinner previously
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
Yes, they did a brussels sprouts and prosciutto flavor
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
I bet they didn't sell much.
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
Yeah...
That’s an awesome combination as a contorno, but I wouldn’t put it in a soda.
Brussels sprouts are one of those foods that get a bad reputation for silly reasons. The name isn’t very appealing, especially to children, and I have a hunch that lots of people were exposed to them in a gross, over-boiled and mushy form. But they are so delicious when done right.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
agreed , you have cook em' hot and fast
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 5, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I cut them in half, give them a guick steam,
and then toss them in a frying pan with some bacon / bacon grease……SOOOOOO good.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I like to halve them brush them with olive oil, roll them in a cracked
peppercorn, caramelized garlic mixture then Kebab them on the grill
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
I wish my wife allowed them in the house...
That sounds good.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
This sounds good,
I’ll have to try it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
cook over indirect heat untill the last 3 or so minutes
they char up too much if you grill them directly from the start
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
I bet they'd be good in the smoker as well.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
that sounds promising i have several buckets of
applewood sitting in my garage right now, if hunting goes well I was thinking of smoking some Elk
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
I did a whole batch of deer sausage and jerky
for a friend last year, but I bet a nice elk roast would smoke up well.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I was think of smoking 30/40 LBS then
grinding it with wild rice, garlic and chipotle peppers then stufing it into casings
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
BONER ALERT
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
seriously homemade sausage is the best
thing in the world. The variation are endless and the Pork or Beef fat I add is free from local butchers
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Yeah
deer sausage is about the greatest thing ever. I’ve never tried elk sausage (as I am not a mountain man) but I’d be willing to bet it is tasty scat.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Wild Game is tasty
I would say Moose is better than Elk, which is better than venison.
I want to tray to make Duck and Goose sausage later in the winter, we don’t have a big pond on this farm like the one I grew up on so I have to go elsewhere for waterfowl hunting
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
There's an exotic sausage place here in LA
It’s absolutely delectable. I think Rattlesnake and Rabbit is my favorite
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Rabbit has a lot of potential
any exotic flavored meat does, I wonder if I ought keep the heart and liver to add to my effort
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Pheasant would be wonderful.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
this is a good year for pheasants I
have seen more than 20 on the roads around my house this year
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
We need to convince Ted Nugent
to become a Cardinals fan and donate meat for our cause. We can woo him with meat pies.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
We never used elk for sausage, just turned it into burger,
and made different sausages with deer and antelope.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
That sounds great,
we used my familys German Sausage recipe, and it turned out great.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
eff off SBN....
we used my family’s german sausage recipe, and it turned out great.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I love german Sausage
wait for it
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
i think you burried the lead, AOL is still in business?
and who’s too lazy to make bacon?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
This is the best kind of Bacon.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Chaucer, Fawkes, and Bacon....
VEB: We like dead English guys.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
We still need to change the blog tag line...
It’s been lame for far too long.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
That's my favorite Francis Bacon.
I’m not a huge fan of the painter.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
make me a soda that tastes like Kevin Bacon.
And I will drink it.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
This is distubing.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
don't knock it til you try it.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Sorry, all I've got is this ginger ale made with Kevin Pollack's sweat.
We had to discontinue Bruno Kirby’s Ball Sweat Lemon Lime. RIP.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I'm guessing it would taste like this!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
not that there's anything wrong with that
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm confused...
is it a Wednesday? It must be if a post isn’t up yet.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
And where is my SBNation post?
Someone turn on the DanUp signal!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
(Actually he may still be editing my terrible writing. Blame me.)
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I'm gonna have to start calling the Rams' quarterback Sam "The Balls" Bradford
It was something of a conversion experience.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Been hanging around the locker room or something?
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Is he charging you?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
He wasn't at first...
but from how long it’s taking he should probably consider it.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
They pay me!
THE FOOLS!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Whoa
I was actually reading that when you posted that.
YOU WIN, INTERNETS. YOU FUCKING WIN.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Yesterday was awesome.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Angry internet was angry.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Just received a note from DanUp about that...

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
someone wake up danup and have him write something
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 5, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions
must've been quite a party
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 5, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions

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