Javier Vazquez: Rotation filler thins out
$7 million is a lot for a guy who lost two miles per hour off his fastball and a strikeout-and-a-half off his recent per-nine numbers, but I kind of like the Marlins' one-year deal for Javier Vazquez, coming as it does in an offseason that hasn't offered the massive Marlins fanbase a lot of good news. Vazquez was terrible in September, and mediocre all year, but he did pitch the entire season, which is more than can be said of fellow reclamation projects like Brandon Webb—apparently the Cubs are interested—Brad Penny, or Justin Duchscherer.
If that's more than can be said of those guys my hope as a Cardinals fan is that it's also more than can be paid to those guys—I'm still finding it difficult to deal with the prospect of the team coming into the 2011 season with Kyle Lohse and Lance Lynn heading up the fifth starter depth chart.
My pet option remains Koji Uehara, who could be a fine reliever in the event that Lohse tests out the positive side of the replacement level in 2011, and who wasn't even offered arbitration after making $5 million in a year in which he had a K:BB ratio of 11 in 44 relief innings. (He also played both roles in Japan.) Uehara's a serious fly-ball pitcher, so the Cardinals probably aren't interested, but he's old and he throws a splitter—I'm asking Dave Duncan to compromise a little, here, in the interest of bumping either the 92 bad innings Lohse threw or 50 of the innings Blake Hawksworth and Mike MacDougal soaked up in relief from the back of the roster.
I hesitate to say this, but I'd even be interested in checking on Brad Penny's demands for 2011 in a similar role. Penny's brief stint as Super-Pineiro is hard to even remember at this point, but it was tantalizing until he vanished from the Post-Dispatch's notes columns and reappeared, a-courting, on Karina Smirnoff fan pages. (Things I've learned from SB Nation St. Louis's referral logs: Karina Smirnoff is way more famous than Brad Penny. Her DanceF/X numbers have been dissected all over the internet.)
Of course, all this is dependent upon how the Cardinals fill their nebulous infield vacancy. That market remains completely still since the Dan Uggla trade; Miguel Tejada is drawing interest from the proverbial "multiple teams", and the Cardinals are almost certainly among them. Which is not exciting.
That's okay, though, because Phil Rogers has a better idea: Derek Jeter. As an attempt to "bring the Pujols negotiations to a head." In that way, I guess he's right: Calling Pujols up and saying, "If you don't sign with us long-term, we're going to offer Derek Jeter $20 million a year to play shortstop through his age-39 season" would probably be a good way to get things to a head.
Don't get me wrong, I think Derek Jeter is a great bounceback candidate for 2011. He's looked terrible before, and as recently as last year he was an outstanding hitter. If he were Derek Jeter of the Milwaukee Brewers, coming off the 16th season of a long career spent between the Expos, the Twins, and the expansion Devil Rays, the Cardinals would and should be taking a long look at him, probably at second base.
But because he is Derek Jeter, and is not only entrenched at shortstop for good but also so lauded to be mentioned in the same conversation with an Albert Pujols extension a year after putting up a .710 OPS and a stereotypically awful year on defense, it's a nonstarter. That might be a fair way to divide "old school" and "new school" sportswriting: Old-school sportswriters might say the Cardinals (I've also heard the Orioles) need to go after Derek Jeter because of his reputation as a winner and a clubhouse leader. I wish the Cardinals could go after Derek Jeter, but I know they shouldn't, because of his reputation as a winner and a clubhouse leader.
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Jeter as a Cardinal
Would require a few concessions from him, namely:
- a salary in the $10 AAV range for no more than 3 years (with significant bonus clauses),
- a willingness to learn 2B and/or 3B, and play there often, and
- to let Boog be the primary SS.
I do think Jeter is capable of continuing to help out a team like the Cardinals, but not at the expense of removing the one healthy, defensively-capable infielder west of 1B. The Cards also cannot afford much beyond that, even if he’s worth that or more.
Would he sign the contract if that were the situation presented to him? Of course not. He’s Derek Effing Jeter™, The Captain, winner of 5 Gold Gloves, and the man who’s completed 80% of the World Supermodel Taste Test. Why would he take a 60% pay cut to leave his adoring fans and go somewhere outside the known universe to play away from the position he plays so dreamy-ly?
There’s no way you could have Jeter at SS, playing as deep in the hole as he usually does, and have a sub-par defensive 2B. I could maybe see Boog as your 2B, swung way the hell up the middle, with Albert being his usual rangy self at first, but that’s pushing it significantly. Asking Jeter to change positions, especially after being awarded The Derek Jeter Award for a fifth time, would also introduce another pinch to the negotiations.
I don’t see any reason to explore in further detail a scenario I can’t ever see ever happening in the first place.
Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.
by Rejuvenile on Nov 29, 2010 9:13 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Derek Jeter is a world-class chap...
I’m sure he’d be thrilled to reduce his salary demands from $150 million to $30 million, move from New York to Missouri, and take his rightful place in the pecking order behind Brendan Ryan.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
by guayzimi on Nov 29, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Not Going to Happen....
…Signing Jeter takes moolah outta Pujols’ pocket, and that’s not a good thing. He’d be a decent addition at the right price as a second baseman, but not at his insanely, crack-smoking Yankee demands. He knows he can ask for the sun, the moon, and the stars because only the hated Yankees, and maybe the Sawks, have the money, the hutzpah, and the lack of vision to meet his demands. And I don’t see him wanting to become second banana behind Pujols (maybe even third banana, behind Holiday!), when he’s the bee’s knees in Moo York City. I wouldn’t waste precious internet speculation cells thinking on it…
:=8/
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
Regarding the Yankees...
as much as I despise the team, I’m quite proud of the way they’ve handled the negotiations for Jeter thus far. Offer him a more than fair (3/$45M) deal, and tell him to see if he can get a better offer elsewhere. Will a rival team make a ridiculous offer just so the Yanks HAVE to pay him over $20M for four years?
Jimmy Ballgame for 2011 RFer!!!
by cardzfanbub on Nov 29, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Just You Wait....
…their buckle to the intense media/fan pressure to bring back Jeeeetahhh at any price. Normally it would make me happy to see the Yanks over-pay for a mediocre player, but they toss mooolah around like Oprah at a Dove Bar sale and are never truly financially hamstrung by anyone…
:=8/
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
still if they end up at 4/75 or 3/60 it is way lower than it would have been if left to the Jeter fanboys
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
i kind of agree with you
if you ever do the polls on ESPN.com, the Derek Jeter questions make me sick…..
Is three years, $21 million a fair deal? 67% say yes (umm.. i don’t think so..)
What would be a worse outcome for the Yankees? 61% think its worse to not sign him than to overpay (ummm… i don’t think so)
Where would you rank Jeter among MLB SS? 39% say in Top 5 (umm… i don’t think so), 33% in Top 10, 21% in top half
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
+1, MooCow.
We should be focusing on the Mang. Helping Mo’ w/ideas on how to re-sign him. All this Jeter biz is fine for the ego-centric Yanks. I’m sure they love the attention. But they’ll not have mine. I put them on a time-out ’til ST 2011.
"Beckett’s retired 19 batters through Six and a third innings, he’s having a phenomonal night…" --Tim McCarver
no way jeter would be a cardinal.
he’s either going to have to accept the yankees offer or get no more than $10-12M a year from any other team.
and, apparently, the cards are interested in berkman.
Good to see their...
looking into replacements for Pujols in case he leaves. Mark Hamilton isn’t cutting it.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
opening day lineup
1. Schumaker lf
2. Berkman 1b
3. Pujols 2b
4. Holliday rf
5. Rasmus cf
6. Freese 3b
7. Molina c
8. Ryan ss
9. Lee P
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Nov 29, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
DRAT!
I was going to write in Cliff Lee as SS but I see you beat me to it (as pitcher)
;-)
by jealousblues on Nov 29, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
I remember when Albert said of 1c (within the collective)
it’s like having another ace.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Hmmm
Where have I heard this logic before?
Old-school sportswriters might say the Cardinals (I’ve also heard the Orioles) need to go after Derek Jeter because of his reputation as a winner and a clubhouse leader.
That’s right. With Tino Martinez! Jeter is not Tino. But, given his decline, he may devolve into Tino. It’s easy to be lush with intangibles when you’re winning and playing well and something else all together when your body starts to betray you and you’re no longer king of the hill, top of the heap.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 29, 2010 10:06 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I was waiting for the Tino Martinez reference
Jeter would be a far more expensive Tino redux. We’d be lucky to get one good season out of him then just have to suck on it to the tune of $20m per.
oh gawd no! no more over the hill Yankee's like Tino
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
that is some terrible logic for signing somebody
Let’s ignore that he’ll cost at least more than $15 million/year, is 37, and plays terrible defense…
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
right
i was just spitballing there to be honest
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 30, 2010 2:18 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sure it's been mentioned before...
Cardinals “Interested” In Berkman
Berkman is one of my favorite non-Cardinals (even though I hated that he seemed to rock us), I’m just not sure I would want him limping around RF for a large chunk of $$$. If only it were 2008.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
or you could read the link up above too...
sheesh, Monday.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
You know....
this could actually work if Holliday would move to RF. I would be much more comfortable with the idea of Berkman in LF and Holliday in RF.
My biggest reservation about it would be the fact that Berkman can’t hit lefties, and neither can anybody else on our team.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Lineup
1. Schumaker
2. Rasmus
3. Pujols
4. Holliday
5. Berkman
6. Freese?
7. Molina
8. Boog
Or we could move Freese to leadoff and Schumaker down in the order if Freese seems a better OBP bet. God, we’d be slow but we would mash.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
That lineup looks like it would somehow take 5 consecutive singles to grind out a run.
by dronemc on Nov 29, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Absent an extra-base hit,
That lineup looks like it would somehow take 5 consecutive singles to grind out a run.
They’re SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
Why is there an "absent an extra-base hit" qualifyer, though?
That’s dumb.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Most would probably get thrown out at the plate
I thought I told you to trim those sideburns!
by martimeryard on Nov 29, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
that baserunning had better be FIXED
by yesterday
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i wonder if colby would be traded
if we signed berkman
by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 29, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Don't start that again
Colby is going nowhere, even if TLR hates his guts with a fiery passion. The rest of the Cards bureaucracy isn’t that insane.
You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
by Aranathor on Nov 29, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You really don't like Colby, huh?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 29, 2010 11:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
i like colby
i just don’t want any tlr-colby fighting press during the season. i’m sick of tlr helping players get their way out the door (jimmy, rolen, etc)
fire joe strauss?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Nov 29, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
jimmy left to make room for colby
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
What the
How the hell are Berkman and Colby mutually exclusive!??
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Lance Berkman is no longer an outfielder.
1B is occupied and the NL doesn’t use the DH.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
Berkman strikes me as a good bounceback candidate.
But, he’s really only a first baseman nowadays. Why on earth would we need a first baseman?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
bounce...
ok, I’ll just stop that right there.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 29, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
they don't call him fat elvis for nothing
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I grew Up in the 70's....
..so the only Elvis I remember is the fat, drug-snorting, deep fried peanut butter and banana -scarfing, white overstuffed jumpsuit-wearing, sending old ladies into a fit of underwear-tossing, scraggly-ass sideburns-wearing, Howard Hughes/Michael Jackson-living-in-isolation-and-out-of-touch-with-reality slobbering hillbilly version. I’m guessing he was far cooler in the 50’s…
:=8/
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
tbh he was really only fat for like two years at the end
by jealousblues on Nov 29, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
...or DH.
Which is why, even tho he wants to stay in the NL, he’ll probably end up on an AL club. TEX would be a great fit for him, moreso if they don’t sign Vlad. TOR would also be a good fit need-wise. Don’t know how the proud Texan feels about playing north of the border, tho.
"Beckett’s retired 19 batters through Six and a third innings, he’s having a phenomonal night…" --Tim McCarver
Saw that. Got a good laugh out of it. Ah, the off-season.
"Beckett’s retired 19 batters through Six and a third innings, he’s having a phenomonal night…" --Tim McCarver
Of all the players the Cards' have been linked with this offseason
I sinceirly hope the FO signs… none of them.
With the exception of the ludicriously hypothetical Jose Reyes trade, which won’t happen because the Mets have suddenly acquired a brain and he’s still under a relativley friendly contract for the 2011 season.
You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
Whaccha got...
against Uribe? I’d love to have him as a SUPER utility player. He can play all infield positions at above average, and has some serious POP in his bat. He’d have to hit in the 6 spot or so, but with any luck he could be our everyday 2B by June!!!
Jimmy Ballgame for 2011 RFer!!!
by cardzfanbub on Nov 29, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
My only problem with Uribe is
That he is sure to get over paid
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 29, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Uribe has a career .307 OBP.
That’s decidedly not the type of offensive player this team which this team needs.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Well, it appears that Uribe will be taking his .307 OBP talents to Venice Beach.
http://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/statuses/9299859953684480
(Granted, this is being reported from WWL-goon and Pujols/Howard trade conspirator, Olney)
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Nov 29, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Dodger Stadium is nowhere near Venice
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I know.
It was the best I could do with a half-assed, outdated LeBron James meme reference in under 30 seconds of preparation.
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Nov 29, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Perhaps you meant Vero Beach?
Which is no longer Dodgertown.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
Acutally, it's even worse
according to B-R, it’s only .300, although the last 2 years in SF, he’s averaged .318. Maybe he’s learned something? His career SLG is .431, but in SF it’s been .464. That’s 56 points better than what he did his 3 years with the Rockies. Guess it would help to look at his home/road splits.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 29, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
you are so right
most of them are pure crap it seems
by jealousblues on Nov 29, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
berkman would be ok
except TLR would probably play him too often in bad spots
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
CAn we stop worrying about Lohse?
We’ve got 4 good pitchers in the first 4 slots, and we owe the 5th guy a load of cash. We’ve got far larger problems to solve.
Paying $12.18MM to a bad No. 5 starter is a pretty large problem.
That being said, it may not be a solvable problem..
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I don't think
he’ll be a bad no. 5 starter. Contract aside, he is perfectly capable of doing what a no. 5 starter needs to do.
by WyoCardsFan on Nov 29, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Disagree that Lohse is an above-replacement-level pitcher
but I do agree that you have an awesome avatar – Go Team Venture! (just got done with Season 1 on DVD)
Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.
ah then you have 3 more glorious seasons to enjoy
The season 4 finale aired 8 days ago and rocked my world.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Nov 29, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
but I think Lohse is better than his busted arm
allowed him to be last year. I expect him to contribute nicely to what (assuming health for 1-4 spots in rotation) will be the best rotation in the NL
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Nov 29, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, Lohse theoretically should be a lot better next year
unless he has been in Europe racing motorcycles again
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
I bet
Kyle will be a pleasant surprise this coming year
by jealousblues on Nov 29, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
That's the point
it’s (pretty much) a insolvable problem. We more or less have to hope that Lohse reverts to 2008 form.
by ArkansasTravs on Nov 29, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
At this rate, I'd be content with him in 2007 form.
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Nov 29, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
I'm more worried about his ability to eat innings.
If he hits the DL yet again, then we really have only Lynn to replace him. Then what happens if one or more of Carp, Westbrook, or Garcia goes on the DL? Augenstein may be an option, but we’ve yet to see if Duncan can fix his sinker. We need either a starter on a minor league deal or a “long reliever” who can step in and start when needed.
Padres' RFL for GG!
To be fair
“what if two of our to starters go on the DL” is a pretty tough contingency for which to prepare. As some point, you’re just fucked no matter what.
Unless you actually have highly promising arms at the top of your minor league system
Which we never seem to do.
Since we draft 'innings eaters' instead of talented SPs
(Save Shelby)
We always seem to have an endless supply of AAAA SPs who throw in the low 90’s, and pitch to contact. Guys like:
- Hawksworth
- Lynn (I’ll eat my words if he’s more than a 4th SP)
- Ottavino
- Lambert
- Reyes (doesn’t fit this profile originally, but does now)
Glad we’re now bucking that trend. But one thing we can count on is Cardinals drafting the last 10 years is:
- Hard throwing RH relievers (great, except they really aren’t that rare)
- Players with low power, who supposedly will develop power and can’t stick at their position: (Cox, Walrus, Barton)
- Low ceiling, durable, 4th or 5th top end RH SPs.
I’d love it if they would draft more CFs, LHP and players with upside.
Like Rasmus & Miller and less like Wallace and Ottavino, but I’m not a scout.
/rant
by creativereason on Nov 29, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ottavino
does not fit your mold (prior to injury). He sat at 94 and regularly touched the upper 90s. Neither does Reyes. I get your point but check out our minor league system pitching top to bottom come next season. Motte and Boggs came up through our system. Sanchez and Reifer are at AAA, both throw in the upper 90s. Shelby Miller should make it to AA by the end of next season. Matias (or whether his name his name now is) will be pitching in the USA, said to throw in the upper 90s. Then there is Jenkins, young kid with a big arm (2010 draftee).
The problem is major league ready starters. All we have is Lynn. I’m personally high on him given how he ended 2010. The question is what Lynn shows up at spring training in 2011? The guy who turned the corner his last 10 starts in 2010 or the guy who struggled in 2009 and the first half of 2010? We have plenty of major league ready depth in the pen @ AAA from the right side. It’s loogy that troubles me. Hope Freeman bounces back quickly from surgery. It will be interesting but I have a much less pessimistic view of our organizational pitching.
I like Lynn
But he’s going to have to prove to me that he’s better than PJ Walters, because they sound like fairly similar types of pitchers, generally speaking.
a lot of this is selection bias...
the majority of all pitchers are RH, throw in the low nineties, and come up as 4th/5th starters or bullpen types. You’ve just described every team, not just the Cards.
It’d be great if we could draft more LH, power hitting CF’ers who break Bo Jackson’s high school baseball records and high school fireballers who throw 97 with great curveballs. But those guys are really rare.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 29, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
I think signing a starter to a minor league deal is something that Mo...
will handle in due time (presumably around late February/March as per the usual).
As for a long reliever able to step in and start when needed. We already possess one of those in Kyle McClellan. His spot in the bullpen could be covered by the likes of Fernando Salas, Eduardo Sanchez, or even Josh Kinney (limited exposure, of course) rather adequately in a temporary scenario.
I think the front office should focus their attention on AP and the middle infield at the moment.
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Nov 29, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Which is also why I find it wasteful to throw above average money at an injury prone, 35-year old Koji Uehara et al.
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Nov 29, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
kmac
ridiculous not to give him a long look at sp
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
if Kmac can keep all his RP stats the same as a starter fine...
Just that it’s probably not going to happen.
Now mitchell boggs on the otherhand…
Reality Used to be a Friend of Mine
Also, in another post KO thinks Jeter would be a upgrade over Boog, Skip, Decalso and Greene. I don’t think he taking the dollars into account.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
From that second article:
The Jeter market, then, is Baltimore, San Francisco and maybe St. Louis.
Please Santa Claus, don’t bring me this gift.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
Yeah Garth Brooks would be right in this instance.
Although, I don’t see any reason why Jeter won’t take more money to stay in New York.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Peter Angelos offers more
because, well, he’s Peter Angelos.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
I've been thinking about applying to his law firm.
as the first step in an elaborate plan to become a baseball GM.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Berkman and Jeter
Both of them have high demands.
Berkman thinks he can roam the OF, and still hit. The town where he is adored(h-town) has already said thanks but no thanks. If he doesnt realize he’s got something to prove, like he can still play he may end up in baseball pergetory(BAL) I say cards offer him a ST invite. Chance to play for a winner maybe as a ph or back up but thats all I’d do.
Jeter I think in the end he ends up a Yankee. If he’s as smart as everyone says he is he’ll reconsider his Demands. Or maybe he’s a bit more arrogant than people think.
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
owners
and this is a chance for the owners to help baseball, dont over price a contract for two guys who are winding up careers. I have heard thats what the yanks are doing since for years Jeter used the Market against them, they are now returning the favor
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
by punchinjudy on Nov 29, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
So me and my buddy went out last night
We stopped by our by our friend Ken’s house to pick him up. We were waiting outside so I told my buddy to text him. He texted him “come out”. Unfortunately, He sent the text to the wrong “Ken”. Now the person that received this sms, as luck would have it, is a guy we have all suspected to be gay for a long time.
He got a reply back saying “what would be the purpose and why would you say that”, which didn’t make immediately sense to us. He replied “because I am waiting for you”.
He got the following reply back “why have you never said anything? I have always liked you very much. Want to go have a drink and talk about it?” So basically, He got other “Ken” out of his closet and have NO idea how to break the news to him that it was a misunderstanding…
I was dieing of laughter
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 29, 2010 11:33 AM EST reply actions 10 recs
hfs
™
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
HFS that's funny.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
It looks to me as though
you may owe IHeartBoog some moolah, infringing on her so-called trademark.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 29, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
She didn't
™ it, she’s just covering her ass for infringement. I don’t care about copyright law.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
^ or TM law, for that matter.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Ouch
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 29, 2010 1:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Typical for flim...
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i still rec'd it, but i feel dirty
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
To be fair, he never explicitily claimed it was his.
You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
the blockquote thing is there for a reason
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
For me
Anything used in comical reference I don’t quote.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 29, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
so you're fundamentally unfunny?
or… there is no “I”
I think the latter is more likely
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
but... before this takes off into memeing
not citing is technically against the rules. I think it’s SBN rules, not VEB rules. which means DanUp might be knocked down to display case wiper.
yes, even if you find it on the internetz and there’s no authorship attached to it.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
No, that is not true
And the dumbest thing I have read all day. This is not a book report that I am turning in. This is a joke I heard off the internet.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 30, 2010 2:29 AM EST up reply actions
which you pass off as your own,
which is cool, cause then I can go onto reddit, and say, “I know this dude”
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
When looked in a comical reference
It is so much funnier when it happened to someone you know or at least a friend of someone you know. Than random person never talked to before told me a story on the internet. That is why jokes are told in the first person.
This story seems highly unlikely to be true. It involves 2 different Ken’s. Who know’s 1 Ken? Let alone 2
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 30, 2010 2:40 AM EST up reply actions
i know a Ken, nice guy, son of a preacher man, sells real estate
his brother in law is also named Ken. he’s a professor at Wake Forrest. guess i know two Ken’s
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i don't have the professor's number
but i’d put money on him being the one in the closet. he was always very effeminate
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
That is kind of creepy
Calling out your brothers name during sex. This is why I don’t date girls with the same first name as my sister.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 30, 2010 2:55 AM EST up reply actions
also on reddit.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
no it's not, i swear i know two Ken's
flim i not only couldn’t date anyone with my sisters name, i couldn’t date anyone with the same name as any of my female relatives. it’s very creepy.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
good for you
copyright is copyright. it doesn’t care if it’s funny or not.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
actually, SBN's rules are a lot stiffer than that
http://www.sbnation.com/guide/terms
scoff on it all you want, but don’t say it’s not true.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The cardinals signing Derek Jeter I'd literally the most nonsensical idea I've ever heard
In fact, that his name is mentioned on this blog – not in the context of his historically terrible defense and doucheyankeeness – is an attack on my very sensibilities.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 11:35 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Jeter reminds me too much of
overrated
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
it would be nice to have him just long enough
to get luggaged.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 29, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Except somewhat less suckage....
:=8P
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
I think we should spend whatever it takes to get him...
He is one of the most polished, grittiest players in baseball.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
a Miles/Jeter MIF
do it! NOW!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
How the fuck can you be polished and gritty
/sarcasm
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 29, 2010 12:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
are poor metaphors not made from rich words?
You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
by Aranathor on Nov 29, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Are they not like the fragrant aroma of fine, fine diamonds?
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
look again
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Derek Jetah's on a horse?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
With a glass of Courvoisier apparently.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
it's a centaur........
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Derek Jeter demands 10Y/250M contract,
contract proposal includes clause that he may ride ARod like a horse up to five times per year. No details on the possible inclusion of family rides.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
by hazel on Nov 29, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Although I think ARod would appreciate Minka riding him
by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
she's far to feminine for his tastes
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Felipe Lopez
The guy just makes too much sense not to have on our team. I mean he plays every position nitty and gritty and he umm… he has some nice tattoos.
He also fills in for
his “reputation as a winner and good clubhouse leader”
No?
No
I thought I told you to trim those sideburns!
by martimeryard on Nov 29, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Because
- type b FA so he can decline arb in advance.
- he made like 1M last year, how much of a raise can he get with his performance
- the redsox are rich
by CodyG on Nov 29, 2010 1:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They're rich?
But they can’t compete with the Yankees! So they are just like every other team!
I know this because their ownership and fan base tells me so.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
I'd like to see a social experiment
where they give the rays like 50 mil more in payroll for 3 years and just see what happens. They’d still be payin half as much as the yanks and would be trouncing them game in, game out. Granted, the Rays had a better regular season anyway, but food for thought.
why wouldn't they offer him arby?
theres a slim chance he’ll take it, anyway. its a thin market, he should be able to get something. either way, he’s basically free anyway and they can get their compensation pick. I’m surprised we didn’t keep him to offer him arb.
Fire John Mozeliak
Did Floppy actually
play on par with his “cheap” contract? …as in did we get our money’s worth?
I thought I told you to trim those sideburns!
by martimeryard on Nov 29, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
no he was not...
he was 0.1 WAR which is not quite worth $1 million… still it wasn’t that bad of a loss….
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
I know he has a reputation as a clubhouse cancer and all
but i really feel that that if he only had a change of scenery and playing in a winning atmosphere he would be good here
maybe we can sweeten the deal by giving him a contract with some incentives for plate appearances…?
(It would be hilarious if Mo offered him a contract with lots of appearances clauses just to see how he would react)
by jealousblues on Nov 29, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
that wasn't just reputation
the report was just… bizarre behavior. it wasn’t just coming on time.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
im just being silly today
Though I wish I knew what really went on with that guy in the locker room
by jealousblues on Nov 29, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Holy crap
Reading this thread with people mentioning B.Ryan at SS, I just remembered I had a dream in which he was not on the team, let alone starting. Ugh..did I say dream? I meant nightmare.
i have a sick feeling the Cardinals are going to look the same as last season ...... sigh
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 29, 2010 1:24 PM EST reply actions
Would that be so horribly bad?
Boog, Skip, Yadi and Pujols could all be expected to be better, to varying degrees. Holliday was right on par with his career averages and I think the board is fairly bullish on Colby’s improvement potential. We don’t think Craig/Jay is going to be an unmitigated black hole of suck, so all we need is some insurance for third base if we’re going with the same starting 8.
The bench, oh god dear god, the bench. LaRue is gone, hopefully Mo has put down the anti-Miles pellets, meaning Stav and Aaron will be gone, too. So the Cards need a backup catcher, a left-handed bench bat, and someone who can play middle infield. Yeah, this looks ugly, but acceptable bench bats aren’t that hard to come by, are they?
Rotation is Waino-Carp-Garcia-Westy-Lohse, which offers quality on the front end and certainty, if not quality, on the back end.
Pen is largely the same as last season – Frankie, Motte, Boggs, K-Mac, Miller, missing only LOOGY #2 and a long man, which is generally a pretty fungible commodity.
Sure, it wouldn’t be the platonic ideal of my perfect team, but “largely the same as last season” is far from apocalyptic.
that's what I thought when I waited for a stronger bench
last year.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
not a terribly bad thing
except we’re pinning our hopes to a good deal of upwards regression. Contrast that with, say, signing Uggla (although it was never gonna happen imo), which would have given us an argument for being the best in the NL.
The Cards aren't trying to be "best in the NL" though.
They’re going for “likely the best in the NL Central,” which is an entirely different standard. As they’re constituted right now, they’re probably the favorite in the division, even with the obvious roster questions.
well they have the same team as last year, for the most part
when going for “likely the best in the NL central” got them a distant second-place finish (if not for a mini-streak at the end) marked by a series of losses to the most pathetic and perennially hapless NL teams.
That's on the on-the-field personnel, matty, not the front office.
There’s no way the Cards should have lost all those games to crappy teams last season. Sometimes crazy shit happens, but they Cards had the talent to do a hell of a lot better than they did against the Pirates, Nats, etc.
and yet
lost to them
and won against better teams
sounds pretty on-the-field there.
but again, I think it really is the bench, which is an org project
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and no, that doesn't seem to make any sense
but i’m sure someone will expand on it
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
TLR micro manager and nerve shattering factor tonic was served
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 29, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
this too
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 29, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Not to be confused with Ankiel shattering...
Sigh.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
So?
This is such a fallacious argument.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 4:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
There is nothing wrong with "pining our hopes with regression"
Regression is the default position, not something you hope for.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, it's not like they are old players either
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
mostly i'm thinking of 3rd base and what if Freese isnt able to play ? and Miles if i have to
watch that fucker all season hit weak ass ground balls in clutch situations i will cry .
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 29, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Friendly reminder:
Aaron Miles is not on the roster.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
oh thank you, i feel better already
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 29, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
I was waiting for that.
VEB is slipping, it took an hour.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
*hurls*
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
That's what Tejada's for.
You can cry as he flails helplessly at breaking balls, or pops weakly into shallow right, instead.
this would be a very good thing if we don't sign Tejada
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
tbh
IF they went into the season not much different than last year
Id think they woudl be better
with westbook here for a full year and underperforming guys likely playing a bit better
(garcia could revert a little though)
by jealousblues on Nov 29, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
Oh god...
That could get ugly quickly
You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
Wow.
I’m extremely grateful that we avoided that marriage. /McCourt’d
I shall harp on this once more…
Bill Hall for a one year deal, anyone?
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Nov 29, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
This from Rotoworld
Tim Brown of Yahoo! Sports reports that “8 teams” are in the running for free agent utilityman Bill Hall.
Hall did just about everything for the Red Sox this year, and it did it all really well. Now it looks like he’s going to cash in. The Yankees are know to be interested, but they won’t be alone in wanting to add a versatile and productive infielder-outfielder. He posted a 772 OPS with 18 home runs, 46 RBI and nine stolen bases over 344 at-bats in 2010.
The grammatical mistakes are the writer’s.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 29, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
why is eight teams in quotes?
and in journalism i believe that if its less than 10, you spell out the word….
“it did it all really well” – even if you change it to he that is some poor writing….
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
"8 teams"
is actually respectable: makes it clear that Brown said “eight teams”, not that he named the eight teams and the writer added them up.
ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss
oh i see what he did there
i’ve always been taught to not paraphrase as well and you should only use quotes when followed by he/she said… and when you have according to (which is nearly the same as Tim Brown reports) you don’t use quotes
but there is still a lot wrong with that rotoworld’s paragraph and i’m wondering how he has a job
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
Newspapers have a lot of odd house rules.
They’re mostly bad prescriptions designed not to foster good writing but to prevent bad writing.
And lots of reporters can’t handle the mechanics; that’s why in the old days they had editors who actually edited. My college roommate was a reporter, couldn’t spell or punctuate worth a damn – because he never had to. But he was a hell of a writer.
ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss
I think Brown's report came via Twitter
which may explain the poor writing. It may also help explain the eventual decline of language as we know it.
/rant
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 29, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Also, as with the EMT/Paramedic fields
any words stated by someone else should be in quotes. Instead of always adding in the he said or she said verbage, it’s more precise and efficient just to use the patients exact words in quotes when writing up reports and run sheets.
Example: Patient felt “nauseated and weak” upon arrival.
Just a way to keep someone’s words separate from yours.
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
I'd be interested
Still not a very good OBP guy though. Which is one of Uribe’s problems.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
the same Dodgers that traded Carlos Santana to avoid paying an extra 3.5 million right?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
It was the cost of all the guitars, though.
Those upped the price tag considerably once they were factored in.
you're right, esp. since they all PRS's and have the birds inlay on the fretboards
too far?
youneverknow
PRS' are spensive
and the Santana models have that South American Rosewood thats hard to get these days
by jealousblues on Nov 29, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Uribe appears to be signing with the Dodgers...
therefore, I present to you a presumably cheaper and more versatile option for our middle infield.
Bill Hall
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hallbi03.shtml
…and if you would like to compare him to Uribe.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/u/uribeju01.shtml
He’s coming off of a nice little rebound season in Boston where he played six different positions and posted an OPS that was 23 points higher than Uribe’s.
Any interest?
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
I'd be interested in Hall or Hardy.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
JJ Hardy would look mighty fine at 2nd
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I hear he's a slow guy though
gets a lot of his range by playing deep and having the arm.
/or am i confusing him with someone else?
but he was badass.
someone post the picture.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
...

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Nov 29, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he looks like spud from trainspotting
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
this is not the picture, but okay.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Will this do?

"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Nov 29, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
it would be nice
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
Good thanks.
Didn’t see him as a good fit for us.
Wouldn’t mind taking a flyer on Hall. His K rate is quite high, but he does have versatility, power and a little patience. How is his defense these days?
"Beckett’s retired 19 batters through Six and a third innings, he’s having a phenomonal night…" --Tim McCarver
plus
he hit the 1st home run ever at Busch III
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
In the way of merit badges...
he also won the “Brewers Good Guy Award” for 2006.
Resume filler? Perhaps – But at least it’s more favorable than having won the “Brewers Douche Of The Year Award”, which was preemptively bestowed upon Ryan Braun despite him playing in Huntsville and not having a single ML at-bat to his name at the time of the announcement.
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Nov 29, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
He pitched an inning last year?
Now that is a TLR-style team player. Sign him up! ;)
"Beckett’s retired 19 batters through Six and a third innings, he’s having a phenomonal night…" --Tim McCarver
sigh....an infield of Boog, Schumaker, and oft-injured Freese
portends another very frustrating and probably depressing year, I’m afraid. And I’m not convinced there are a lot of viable options out there to substantially ameliorate that.
Makes you miss the Renteria, Vina, Rolen years doesn't it.
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
I hate Derek Jeter
it’s dumb that people are talking about signing him. with Uribe about to be out of the conversation, Hudson remains an interesting choice, barring overpayment. Berkman could be a nice bat off the bench, but he will cost more than that would make sense to pay for, probably.
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 1:51 PM EST reply actions
Jeter's just negotiating, that's all
why hold it against him? Every dollar he gives up is another dollar in the coffers of the Yankees, or in the owners’ pockets. So if someone had to be enriched and it’s not gonna be me, I guess I’d rather see it be Jeter.
Only if
the only three parties that can be involved in the conversation are you, the Yankees, and The Captain. Virtually anyone else, short of terrorist financiers and their peers, would also get my vote over the Yankees and Jeter. Hell, I’d even give it to the Cubs – something about the holiday season makes me generous toward bums, although you’re better off buying them a meal than letting them buy something foolish with it, like Juan Pierre.
Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.
by Rejuvenile on Nov 29, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I just think that he is not that good
and I don’t like the Yankees.
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Jeter asked for 150 million from a team that already made him a generous offer
He’s a piece of shit.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 4:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah, he's still better than miguel
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
I'll only agree to this if we also ALSO sign David Eckstein
for that is the only semi-tautological way for this team to win the division.
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Nov 29, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
super leadership grittiness
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
david eckstein sucks....
and i do realize that you aren’t serious….
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
Eckstein at second wouldn't suck as bad as putting him back at short though.
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
I know George Sherrill has been mentioned as a LOOGY
what about BJ Ryan?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
not very Rich Hill was decent for Boston in SSSS last year
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
so you are saying you would not have given him 47 million over 5 years?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
if they could they should
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
dude is right handed yet throws left handed
I really wish he would start as a RHP and Close as a LHP…the magic of Billy Wager.
I watched him a bit with the Mariners this year
He just looked terrible… I liked the signing at the time, but like everything with the Mariners last year, it bombed
I would say no, unless it’s a minor league deal
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
yeah, the marlins made another stupid move
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Not terrible
Even with permanent velocity loss, he should still be an above average pitcher.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, I guess it wasn't that bad, but it was a curious move
I’d have waited to sign a guy like that til the last minute. since he’s a gamble, it wouldn’t be a big loss to not sign him
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Imagine that GB staff
Westbrook career 59% GB
Webb 64% career GB
Jaime 56% career GB
Carp 52% career GB
Waino 49%
and we could have
skip at 2nd
Tejada at ss
and Lopez (back inexplicably) at 3b
;-)
by jealousblues on Nov 29, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
if that happens, the last remnants of my sanity will be gone
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
sign Penny for closer MO!!!!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
holding. . .
current time: 15 minutes and counting
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
can't wait for Lohse to rebound next season
or at least, give Jake some competition as to who is the #4. hell, for all we know both of those guys will be better than Garcia (probably not though)
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 3:45 PM EST reply actions
He's had his motocross surgery now though...
you never know
You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
totally called it with uribe
he’d be nice to have, but who wants him at 3/$21MM?
you can have him, dodgers
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Uribe overpay
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
assuming ryan theriot is non-tendered
give me a reason why we shouldn’t pick him up
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other than cub cooties, of course
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Theriot has a similar body to Miles.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
miles is stockier
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Ummmm. . . .
Click on this link. . . .
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/theriry01.shtml
And scroll down to see who’s number 1 on his similarity score list.
Go ahead, I’ll wait,
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 29, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
without looking I'm going to guess Miles
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Yeah, but. . .
guys like Miles and Theriot tend to age poorly.
My own theory is that once the league learns that you can’t hit it out of the park or even into the gap, they start challenging your pop gun bat more, leading to a decrease in walk rate.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 29, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
theriot will be 32
miles 35
also, theriot is free
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At 32. . .
Miles hit 185/224/242 and got released. By the Cubs.
I wouldn’t mind signing Theriot, I’m mostly just funnin’, but he’s a far inferior SS to Boog (at least in the field), and his offense is in free fall.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 29, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
are you saying that all 32-year-olds will have that line?
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Of course not. . .
but slappy hitting middle-fielders with middling walk rates with the same profile that Miles and Theriot had/have at age 31 are more likely to have that line than Albert Pujols or Matt Holliday.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 29, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
I'm will to bet that
slappy hitting middle-fielders with middling walk rates with the same profile that Miles and Theriot had/have at age 31
are likely to have a line much better than .185/.224/.242
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
because really
highschool softball players would have a better line than .185/.224/.242. I’m not suggesting we pick up Theriot.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Ryan or Skippy at second?
same player if you ask me except ryan can steal a base(if need be) and still has a glove the last i checked.
he's free
and was 3 and 2 WAR in ’08 and ’09
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Aaron Miles was free in 2010. . .
and we saw how well that worked out.
Actually, Miles didn’t kill htis team, but you get my drift.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 29, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
I remain convinced that being on the same team as Miles killed the spirit of many Cardinal players in 2010.
What the hell kind of argument is this?
Theriot is a lot better than Miles.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 4:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Now, sure. . .
but when both were 31, they were very similar players. You could even have argued that Miles was better at age 31 than Theriot is now (at age 31).
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 29, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
It's easy, actually
Miles at 31: 317/355/398 in 408 PAs
Theriot at 30: 270/321/312 in 640 PAs
Miles fell off a cliff soon thereafter.
Career until that point:
Miles: 289/329/364
Theriot: 284/348/356
Not a lot of difference there, tbh.
I would prefer Theriot myself, but it’s not like he’s Derek Jeter or anything.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 29, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
No!
Miles had one good season. For his career he was replacement level. Theriot has had several good seasons and is well above replacement for his career.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 4:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No one's mentioned the 2nd guy on that list?
One Jason Bartlett who’s going to come in and save the day for us?
Bartlett has had some good years, however, so hopefully, if we do obtain him, 2011 will be a bounce back year for him.
by ArkansasTravs on Nov 30, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
A couple of reasons
Potential “The Riot” puns…
EX: Johnny Cueto has incited The Riot.
Also, is adding another “gritty” singles hitter to our middle infield really needed at this point?
I don’t think he’s necessarily another Miles, but I think there are still better options available.
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Nov 29, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
who are the better options?
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Bill Hall, J.J. Hardy
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Nov 29, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
yeah but Theriot is really cheap
I like this idea mucho
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Hall or Hardy
would provide more extra base-hits and consistent gap power in general – which is a valuable asset from the middle infielders that we lacked last season.
At some point, you’re going to have to spend a little bit of money. If we simply avoid pulling what the Dodgers did with Uribe, we’ll be likely to come out pleased with the production at 2B and/or SS.
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Nov 29, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not opposed to either really
but isn’t it pretty complicated to get Hardy? and Hall’s defense isn’t much better than Skip’s
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
OR...
we could get 6-7 Miles/Theriot types!
by jealousblues on Nov 29, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Though a 6'7 Miles/Theriot type would be pretty fucking intimidating
Also hilarious to watch play
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i'd like hardy
i’m not sure hall is much of an upgrade
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tweet
hen Lance Berkman was asked which teams have contacted him this winter, he mentioned the Cardinals first.
wtf. to play WHERE?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
i'm the one who hasn't been to 3rd in forever! i should go first!
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
by gdm426 on Nov 29, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 11 recs
That comment is full of win.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
begging will never get you to third.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i'm not begging, i'm just stating the facts
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
We already have a guy at first.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 29, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
i was talking about 3rd, who's on first?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
just give me a shot
work has sucked SO BAD today.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
yeah... i'll take my liquor in bed.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
he could be a very defensively poor sub
give Albert days off (if he gets any), perhaps move Albert to second every once in a while, start him in RF sometimes, he’d also be tons better than stav as our power bat off the bench…. just not sure how much money he’ll command, possibly could be a steal though
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
he played there once
I’m sure he could do it every once in a while
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
you for, like, an inning
when they ran out of players. they way his arm is, i wouldn’t want him making those throws.
yeah
I dunno, berkman in the outfield should be limited unless he is raking
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
How much would Big Puma cost us?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
5-10 games when he plays LF
/rimshot
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
by TBender on Nov 29, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good point.
Here, take your choice…
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
My ringtone... All 5 seconds of it.
by CodyG on Nov 29, 2010 5:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
if they do sign Puma
it would be interesting to see what happens. Which of Albert’s arm has the elbow problems?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
awesome
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'm a big fan of Berkman in left and Holliday in right
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
seems reasonable
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
2B, of course
What could possibly go wrong?
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 29, 2010 4:00 PM EST reply actions
so, um, well, humph, this is embarrassing but totally expected
there are some issues with me getting security clearance & i may not be able to accept the job i was offered last week. thankfully i still have interviews lined up this week in case something like this did happen. they all pay a lot better & i have already done the type of work so i would be more comfortable with them right off the bat. nothing is certain yet & i still will probably get cleared, but i wouldn’t be able to start on monday because of the delay & instead would have to wait till next year, which i just can’t afford to do.
there’s always something with me, nothing is ever easy or as it seems. i’m trying to stay positive & have faith. but i’m worried. everything happens for a reason, here’s hoping i find out what the reason is rather quickly.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
life is not easy
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
it's really f'ing aggravating & stupid
because there’s this huge normal employment gap on my resume i made up a name for a company for when i was taking care of my dad. i made it clear to this place it wasn’t a real company, i just put it on there because no one would even talk to me when i had something like "volunteer for 8yrs’ on there to explain what i’ve been doing since 2002. the company was really cool about it & said they’d clear it with FedEx & UPS & it would not be a problem.
well FedEx & UPS aren’t happy they can’t call this company, or two of the other companies on my resume. yes, three of the 4 companies on my resume are no longer in business or fake. now you all can see one reason why this job search has been so hard. so today i get a call from the background/security clearance arms of FedEx & UPS & the lady was yelling at me for lying & pretty much said she’ll never approve my security clearance. so i called the woman i interviewed with & she was really pissed off that i was yelled at & said that should never happen. she said she’d take care of it & call me back today before 5. when i didn’t hear back from her by 5 i called at 530 & was told she had left for the day. so it looks like the job search continues. happy happy joy joy
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
is your name George?
You should apply with the Yankees!
(I kid, and I hope all works out well for you)
by jealousblues on Nov 29, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
maybe I will
heh
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
my friends called me george, homer, AL & charlie brown in high school
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I really hate resumes and most of the hiring process
it’s usually inaccurate, like you said places go out of business or you get out of touch with old contacts. there’s gotta be a better way of hiring people. stay optimistic, and realize that if this opportunity passes you by, there might be a better one coming up. having a really shitty job that you don’t like is just as bad as having no job, because it will stress you out. also, everyone lies on their resume, they are just being lame about it.
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
especially now that people switch jobs so often
by jealousblues on Nov 29, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
i'm really hopeful about the interviews i have lined up this week
both aren’t sitting in cubicle all day, both have more freedom & let me do my own thing & both pay a lot more.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Were I you, I'd remove the fake company from your resume,
and just explain in the interview what exactly you’ve been doing the past 8 years. Only, don’t call it volunteer, call it caregiver, or something similar.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 29, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
gdm inc.
Home caregiving with one client.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
you're pretty close
it’s independent care givers inc.
for the longest time i just had volunteering on there & no one would call me or even take my application seriously. only till i faked it did i actually start getting somewhere
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Broski, I think what you did is MUCH more impressive
I’d write down caregiving as well
Wait
Caregiving and caretaking are the same thing, right?
FUUUUUUUUUUU
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Other than the fact that you caretake things and not people, I suppose...
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Wait you can caretake people
FUUUUUUUUUU
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
caregiving sounds less selfish
fu
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by prophetjohn on Nov 30, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
Also, The tax year isn't over.
You can make this legit, probably easily.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
FYI, falsifying a resume is very bad juju
Technically, you’ve forged a legal document and could go to jail for perjury. Doubt if the employer would spend the money to prosecute, but you would certainly be fired for cause if you get “found out”, which you probably will.
Better to say something like “self-employed” or “abducted by aliens” or something. At least that shows that you have “intangibles”.
Can't he just write "Caretaker to father?"
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Sorta like "stay at home mom."
Even though it can be incredibly taxing work and a full-time job (and in GDM’s case I KNOW that it was), employers just aren’t impressed with that. It sucks.
It at least explains the 8 year gap, though
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
you wouldn't believe how many ppl asked if i just got out of jail
last year, that’s another reason why i changed it
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
It's illegal for them to ask that.
Sue their asses.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
which is exactly another reason why i changed it
i did have one job call me last year & when i told them what i did the guy laughed. i promptly told him off & hung up the phone
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
doesn't do much in the resume itself
but yes, that is good information for the cover letter.
Also, if the “volunteer work” was with a reputable organization, you can list that as work. Same with community college classes, etc.
looks like i need to rewrite it
here’s the kicker, my cousin last year was looking for a new job & he & his wife help me put it together based on what got him a really good job.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
As someone trying to get into college
I can sort of feel your pain.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, colleges love money
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
I have like 50 stressful things up in the air right now.
All you can do is what is in front of you. We can’t control the outcome for most things, so I just try to remember to breathe and stay in the moment.
Good luck, GDM.
very good advise, i'm trying that & trying to stay positive
i’m not really that upset, i’m embarrassed more than anything. everyone was so cool & very nice last week & i feel like i let all of you down.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Dude, we have fang up in here
There’s nothing you can do to let us down more than that guy
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
to be fair, his whore of a mother is also to blame
you have no idea how hard it’s been trying to undo the damage she’s done
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
BAH; all the guys in my flat are gettin pumped for a big night out
i feel like a massive loser for not going… but i’m falling asleep just standing up.
You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
That's dangerous.
You should really fall asleep lying down.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
by azruavatar on Nov 29, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
in bed
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Nov 29, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
that is the most unsuggestive
‘in bed’ in the whole history of ‘in bed’ jokes.
good show.
You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
I do try
but there are many things on my bed. Also alcohol.
You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
i thought you had the advantage of being able to sleep with many kinds of things?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
by TomCat009 on Nov 29, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not when they're inanimate
and clothes-shaped.
but still, most poingant, good sir.
You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
ohh look who is getting all choosy
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
i know
first i refuse to bang my own clothes… next its people!!
What is the world coming to?
You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
according to Monty Python you can slip in your sock
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
So THATS why i'm not allowed in 17 states!
It all makes so much sense…
You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
Hey you're allowed
Just not to be happy
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
"Shake it once
anymore than that and it constitutes pleasure and, in the marines, we are not in the business of pleasure"
You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
HFS Jeter news!!!
Giants kick tires on Jeter, somehow this is newsworthy
You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
easy- jeter's agent asks
One, who needs a shortstop?
Two, who has gobs of money?
Three, who is so dumb he would give jeter more than 3y/$45m?
Ed Wade is holding on line 2
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Nov 29, 2010 7:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I have a test on Hamlet tomorrow
Who wants to share an interesting opinion about the book (specifically the psychology behind it)?
Sparknotes' analysis is either really basic, or wrong
Besides, I’d rather here from random unemployed people on a baseball blog.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
I'm unemployed!
Hamlet… is that the one with the balcony and the “where for art though”…? and Baz Luhrrman
You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
you should believe him
he’s British
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yeah, me and Shakespeare are like THAT
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You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
poor Colby.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
ahem!
some of us work for our mothers cleaning the basement we inhabit…
FFS!
by jealousblues on Nov 29, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
Well,
a) It’s not a book. Shakespeare did not write books. He wrote scripts.
b) Polonius is a lot brighter than he plays himself. Claudius is a lot dimmer, but not so dim as Gertrude.
c) Hamlet’s basic problem is the Actor’s Problem (or Writer’s), videlicet, he doesn’t want to do what he’s called upon to do because it’s something he’s never done before; so he does everything else he can think of that looks like it’s what he’s called upon to do instead. Once he gets past his Actor’s block and just takes things as they come he does just fine and Heroic. Of course he dies, but it doesn’t matter because the play is over and Hamlet is happy. And the terrifically unselfconscious Fortinbras takes over and there’s no question but he will do all sorts of things he’s never done before.
At least that’s the way it was when I directed it.
ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss
videlicet
damn, my edumecation is either failing me, or my mind is going.
or both.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
You can spell it viz. if you'd rather
but you get more points for knowing what viz. abbreviates. “To wit:”
Either way it should be italicized, but that’s too much work here.
ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss
Thanks
That’s pretty much my take on Hamlet’s delay – it’s something that I can relate to in many instances as well. So obviously you think he’s faking the madness?
by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
W e l l . . .
Not so much faking it as indulging in it. It’s an Actor thing, again: fun, flashy, and requires technique but not commitment. Polonius hands him a Big Part on a silver platter.
There’s probably some in-house joking at Dickie Burbage’s expense there, too.
ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss
Ok, so what do you think about the Ghost?
Is it really speaking to him or is it a projection of his subconcious?
by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Common-or-garden-variety ghost
Pretty tame as ghosts go.
Of course it’s a real ghost. Horatio sees it, Barnardo sees it, Marcellus sees it – does Hamlet’s subconscious project onto their brainpans?
ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss
Tradition has it
that the Ghost was played by one of the company’s lesser histrionic lights – a chubby fellow from Warwickshire – so not a technical stretch.
ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss
i thought the Ghost was one of the few characters shakespeare was known to have played himself?
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
(but "known" is stretching it:
… that story first pops up in 1708.)
ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss
I've read some very compelling argument's re:
Shakespeare’s plays actually being written by Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford. Not that I believe it, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 29, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
It's not out of the realm of possibility
that Babe Ruth’s home runs were hit by Ty Cobb under a pseudonym.
Or at least no further out.
ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss
To be fair, I just finished reading Joyce
So I’m used to realism, with any aberration from that usually being psychosomatic.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Start by not calling it a book
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 29, 2010 8:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
this is why no one wants to help you
oh so funny
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
dude
just a joke…assjerk
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 29, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
that's what hamlet said
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
verily
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
forsooth

You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
by Aranathor on Nov 29, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
oh the shades remind me of another meme
it’s slightly political, but worth the time of waiting for it.
via MCC, yeah i know.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 29, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
the slow frame rate does it.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 29, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
so you had a sex dream
and woke up and you were like “damn… im in school?” – very drastic change
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
were you making "noises"?
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while you were sleeping
Matt Pagnozzi signed a MiL deal with Rox.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
JAIME GARCIA
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that counts for something right?
You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
other two rooks were Strasfest and Feliz
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
mine still has turkey on it
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
....the gravy helping?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
here is 27 year old Gagnozzi's
MiLB line ’
.214/.292/.294 in 1946 PA
here is 25 year old Michael McKenrys MiLB line
.265/.357/.455 in 2048 PA
That should be our back up catcher
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Good Lord how did he ever make it from A to A+ let alone to MLB
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
well it is a consistent swing
he hits AAA pitchers just as poorly as he hits Rookie League pitchers
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
He's like a robot with a singular purpose
To play only just barely well enough to not get kicked out of professional baseball.
Unfortunately, it does not involve his arms.
"Beckett’s retired 19 batters through Six and a third innings, he’s having a phenomonal night…" --Tim McCarver
by kallawaykid on Nov 30, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
So, the Hardball Times had a piece recently about Reggie Smith
Here’s my question: Is Reggie Smith a Hall of Famer?
I can’t help but be pretty damn impressed by the guy’s career. His Fangraphs page looks like “average HOF guy” to me. He’s similar to Jim Edmonds. Less power, probably better defense. Smith’s peak didn’t reach the same height of Edmonds, but he maintained a longer period of ~6 WAR type years (at least I think, I haven’t done a thorough comparison). They even have very similar totals, Smith with 71 WAR after 17 years, and Edmonds with 68 after the same amount of seasons.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
if he was as anything but a Smith he would already be in
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
I always kind of assumed the "Reggie" part hurt him more.
Who wants to be the “other Reggie” of the 70s?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
it's funny that Theriot's career wOBA is higher than Uribe's, and he's only played half the games that Uribe has
Bill James is projecting Uribe to be better than Theriot next near, but Theriot is projected to have quite a bit better on base percentage. I think Theriot might actually be the better player next year, depending on their defense. of course, having either of them at shortstop would be a waste of time. and I’m not sure they are willing to upgrade at second.
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 29, 2010 8:26 PM EST reply actions
I hope we're able to pull some better than Theriot out of this offseason
for our MIF Perhaps it is the stench of Cub, but Theriot hasn’t shown me anything that makes me prefer him to Ryan, and I think Schumaker is a good bet to outhit him next year.
How much better is Theriot on defense than Skip?
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Nov 30, 2010 2:37 AM EST up reply actions
at second, theriot is really pretty good
at short, not so much
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 30, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
Monday Night Football...
Go Cardinals! And what the fuck are they wearing? I’m seeing black jerseys here….
Would Matt Leinart...
really have been worse than what they ran out there this year?
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
and speaking of handegg...
what do you have to do to get suspended?
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
haha
im happy with the result, but i love andre johnson so I’m biased… and cortland finnegan is a huge bitch and cheap shot artist (which I’m sure played into the decision)
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
i doubt it
Derek Anderson is the worst QB in the world – 53.7% CP this and a 53.1% CP for his career
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Remember when he was good for one year? Yeah, me neither.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
god chris berman sucks....
my ears are bleeding…and off.. now i’m better
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
haha
1st place…. that’s all that matters right now….
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
uh huh
keep telling yourself that. Why don’t they just blow that thing up, let us have bradford and watch us dominate?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
umm...
well sure if we gave you bradford, you’d dominate… but that’s because you have some quarterback issues….
whereas the rams… do not…
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Haha
Just watched 3 of my flatmates stumble home. 2 of them tottally off their respective faces. Uni kicks ass.
You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
Anyone want to come over and help perfatape?
Free Beer!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
If you pay for the flights
i am so there.
You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
while tempting...
not possible.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
its only a few thousand dollars...
plus the price of the beers obviously.
You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily
If I paid for your tickets,
I would only buy you piss water Bud Light.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Who knows this old joke (no googling!)
Why is drinking American beers like making love in a canoe?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 29, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Bravo.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 29, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
...
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Dan is on my tv
doin’ a voiceover
claiming that We are Cardinal Nation.
he’s selling La Russa packs.
I wonder if Red knows they’re using him in the montage.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what the
ctrl+f bartlett ding ding ding
he’s close to being moved according to MLBTR. i would like it if the cardinals is the team he’s being moved to. they say the rays are seeking MLB relief arms in return. we gots dat
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Is Bartlett better than Theriot?
Q2: Is Bartlett better than Theriot plus whatever we buy with $5M?
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
depends on what we buy with $5M
if we get a bartlett or a theriot, we aren’t really left with any gaping holes
i guess we could get theriot and spend the $5MM on a backup catcher, but that’s the only spot left to upgrade once we get a MIF
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by prophetjohn on Nov 29, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
you are assuming bartlett will play 2B?
we’d still have a black hole at 2B when TLR plays Bartlett instead of Boog….
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
i'm assuming bartlett will primarily all three infield positions
i don’t think there’s any chance someone is picked up as the every day 2B. best case scenario is who we get plays the felipe lopez role
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by prophetjohn on Nov 29, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
alright... that is something i can handle
however I don’t really want Bartlett all that much…
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
Considering Bartlett's career at non-2B positions
amounts to 7 games in the minors and 1 inning in the majors, that is a big assumption.
Boog becomes the all glove / no hit super-sub.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
that may also be the case
but i don’t think your point proves anything on a TLR team. how many games had descalso played at 3B in his MiLB career before TLR thrusted him into the position in his MLB debut?
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by prophetjohn on Nov 29, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
47
Plus the 9 games for St. Louis.
Or roughly 7 times more appearances than Bartlett.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
Random Baseball Question
What would it take to get Reid Brignac from the Rays, and would they trade him? Seeking opinions…
i think they're trying to move bartlett
so that brignac can take over for him
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It would talk a lot
Bartlett is the old busted, Brignac is the new hotness.
by mojowo11 on Nov 30, 2010 1:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well there goes my pipedream of a tulowitzki for Bryan Anderson trade
Rox about to sign TT to a 10 year extension, per mlbtraderumors.
10 years 160+ is being bandied about. What does that due for a potential Albert extension?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 29, 2010 10:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
twitters blowing up over this, the Rocks are f'ing stupid
hell most GM’s this off season are
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
...
hell most GM’s this off season are
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
Why would any team...
extend someone that’s already signed through 2014? And they’re not getting any kind of a discount for shelling out huge money so far in advance.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
Besides, the world ends in 2 years
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 29, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
apocalypse clause
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 29, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing, completely different situations
by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
other than the possible length of deals they really are totally different
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
the tulo deal picks up at the 2014 Option with a 6 year extension
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
so Tulowitzki from 2010-20 for 140 million not too bad
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
meh at the end of the contract he is 2 years younger than lego will be at the end of his
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
but they already have 4 years of control
we ahd to sign holliday through that age for him to play for us last season. no such condition exists with tulo
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by prophetjohn on Nov 29, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
right but if Tulo goes to free agency at 29 there is no way the rockies keep him
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
exactly, and while it is a gamble, I like it from the Rockies perspective
So long as injury doesn’t dismantle him they’ve got him for less than it would have taken once his current deal ends, and once he gets close to Free Agency it would be hard to resist being the number 1 free agent of an offseason.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Nov 30, 2010 2:42 AM EST up reply actions
If Tulo had just signed a 10/159 FA deal would everyone be crapping
their pants? I doubt it, not when Mauer just signed a 23 million a year deal
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
and it looks like we got De la Rosa back
this almost makes up for signing Gagnozzi
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
we?
you’re a rockies fan? the rockies signed pagnozzi?
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by prophetjohn on Nov 29, 2010 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
obligations
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by prophetjohn on Nov 29, 2010 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
yes on both fronts I was Cards fan before Denver had MLB
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Why is everyone on purplerow so f*ckin...
dumb? They spent a gazillion dollars and added absolutely nothing to an 83 win team and they’re acting like they just won the WS.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
that 83 win team just extended the franchise player, why wouldn't they be happy
the best SS in the league will now be here until he is one of the better 3B in MLB.
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
i don't see the point
he’s already signed through 2014. a lot can happen between now and then. history says it’s more likely to be something that reduces his value between 2015 and 2020
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by prophetjohn on Nov 29, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
They had him signed to a four year/$38 million contract...
I like that a lot more than 10/$160 million, especially when the team’s payroll hovers in the $70-90 million range.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
They're basically signing him...
to a 6/120 for his age 30-35 seasons. If one accepts that he’s worth 6.5, 6, 6, 5.5, 5, 4.5 war for those six seasons (33.5 war) and that the going rate for wins in the late 20teens will be around $5 million, they are getting some value.
However, there are all kinds of risks – economy risk, salary deflation risk, injury risk, ineffectiveness risk – plus they have three more offseasons after this to negotiate with him. Considering his 2010 performance, I’m not sure I would have picked this particular offseason to extend.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
maybe but if he is the hitter they think he is that is keeping the
face of the franchise at well below market. I don’t understand why this is getting the Ryan Howard treatment.
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
No I'm fine with this contract
But there’s a possibility it becomes an albatross
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
This is not nearly as bad as the Howard contract...
Tulo is actually a good player. Just seems odd to throw money at 2015-2020 in 2010.
Maybe they think Tulo is going to be the team’s first HOFer and that he’ll get a statue and give the organization some tradition and all that… and they want to make sure he’s a Rockie for life. Problem is he’s more likely to underperform than be an all-time great.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
You could be right but you could have said the same about
the Pujols contract when he signed it. Consider what the Dodgers will be paying the combination of Uribe and Furcal 19Million a year for the next two years through their age 33 and 36 seasons
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
wow that was a terrible comparison
first, his deal was 7 years with a team option and he also signed the deal to avoid arbitration not 4 years before he had to sign it
not to mention previous to the deal Tulo had 18.4 fWAR in four seasons and Pujols had 22.3 fWAR in THREE seasons
Pujols was 24 and would be 31 at the end of the deal and Tulo is 26 and will be 36 at the end of the deal…
besides the fact that they both signed long-term extensions to stay with their team and their contracts are similar, these two signings are wayy different
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 30, 2010 2:11 AM EST up reply actions
Tulo was hurt for a year in 08
but I accept your point, would you have offered Albert an extension at 26 that payed him 16 million on average through his age 36 year?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Yes,
but Tulo is not Albert.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
true but Tulo is a power hitter entering his prime
at a premium defensive position, would you object to Hanley or Utley getting a contract extension at age 29 of 6/120?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
yes
mostly because he was worth over 7.0 fWAR per season and at 16 million, that is a hell of a bargain….
for Tulo, he was worth an average of over 4.0 fWAR (by the way, he had over 400 plate appearances in ’08 so his 0.9 WAR was not insignificant) which is worth the contract but could get bad if he declines faster than you would predict (and since he will be 36, this is possible)
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 30, 2010 2:21 AM EST up reply actions
right but his quad was torn, he gutted it out but he was
a shell of himself
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
These are the same folks who refused to admit that Jimenez was getting lucky when he had a sub .220 BABIP earlier in the year
by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
BEST SEASON IN THE HISTORY OF THE WARLD
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by prophetjohn on Nov 29, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
you do realize that his 2.88 ERA is the best season in the 15 years of Rockies history
by like .75 points which was his record he set last year, it isn’t like they have a lot of dominant oerformers to compare it to
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
at the time,
he had like an 0.80 ERA or something and no one was willing to admit that he was benefiting from luck
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by prophetjohn on Nov 29, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
like you don't ever do
“you argumentative fuck”
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by TomCat009 on Nov 29, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
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Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It really should be green.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
also, I watched all 10:25 of this.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i did too
great compiled video of a great show
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 30, 2010 2:12 AM EST up reply actions
?
I’m a Rox fan and uber-Ubaldo fan. I don’t know of anyone, Rockies fans included, who realistically believed he would continue to post those absurdly dominant numbers throughout the season.
"Beckett’s retired 19 batters through Six and a third innings, he’s having a phenomonal night…" --Tim McCarver
by kallawaykid on Nov 29, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
Well than you and I know different Rockies fans
by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
they didn't say he would be an .80 pitcher for the rest of the season
they argued with your assertion that he wasn’t that good, and that Livan Hernandez was having a similar run
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
E-guayzimi
No, taken as a whole Rockies fans are not as informed as Cardinal fans. (Tall task for Rockies fans. Cardinal fans have 100+ years of history/success on their side.) But “fucking dumb” is a harsh description. And it’s not as if Cardinal nation doesn’t have its share of idiots. I’ve sat next to plenty of them at games. Aim your barb at Cubs fans. They truly deserve it.
"Beckett’s retired 19 batters through Six and a third innings, he’s having a phenomonal night…" --Tim McCarver
by kallawaykid on Nov 29, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
To be fair
He only meant Rockies fans at PurpleRow
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
and just the ones posting about this extension...
there wasn’t one comment out of hundreds that didn’t LOVE LOVE LOVE this deal… and they’ve been suffocating under Helton’s deal, which is really similar. You’d think someone would connect the two.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
Thanx for the clarification.
Qualifiers make a difference. I will correct my scorecard.
"Beckett’s retired 19 batters through Six and a third innings, he’s having a phenomonal night…" --Tim McCarver
by kallawaykid on Nov 30, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
I always get a little tingle of satisfaction when a dispute is resolved peacefully on the internet
Tis a rare sight indeed.
the funny thing is
looking at fWAR, Helton’s deal may actually end up with positive marginal value over the life of the deal. He signed the extension in 2003, and has been worth 31.8 fWAR (31.7 rWAR) against just $118M in salary so far.
Even if they hadn’t adjusted the 2011 salary ($19.1M + $4.6M 2012 buyout) they’d still be up just a bit (+$1.6M). But they added cheap deals for 12-13 in the restructuring, which gives them a chance to come out way ahead if he produces anything at all in the next three years.
Of course, there’s opportunity cost, but the Rox pretty much nailed Helton’s future value in 2003.
and his back injury in 05 derailed what was a sure shot HOF career
not that injuries don’t often happen but considering that the original Pujols extension could have had the same things said about it it surprises me about the backlash here
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
backlash.......
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Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Nov 30, 2010 1:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I love that episode
the argument seems to be “paying 20 million a year from 30-35 is a risk” which is of course true but so is letting the 29 year old face of the franchise hit free agency
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Pujols wasn't near as much of a risk as Tulo is
Pujols wasn’t under contract when we signed him unlike Tulo, he was also two years younger, much better, and the contract was technically three years shorter (can’t count option year cause if he flopped, we’re off the hook…)
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 30, 2010 2:15 AM EST up reply actions
True what about this next contract?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
i don't think i see your point
you act like Tulo will be consistently at 5.0+ WAR for the remainder of his contract by comparing him to Pujols….
also the fact that we signed a 24-year-old to an 8 year contract was incredible enough… i’m not sure we could have gotten him for more and quite frankly, if we did, there was a huge risk involved (hindsight is 20/20)
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 30, 2010 2:24 AM EST up reply actions
if Pujols signs for 8 years where are you on that?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
i would probably oppose it
because he would be close to 40… and probably with an AAV of over $25 million which would cripple the Cardinals in 2016 and beyond….
if he would accept like an 8 year, $20 million contract…. then I might be more accepting but there is no way in hell that is happening
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 30, 2010 2:28 AM EST up reply actions
you and Jeff Passan agree
about Tulo so congratulations on that
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AjVlmPXQG8GcqcJzj5MXVQERvLYF?slug=jp-tulowitzkiextension112910
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
aww man...
you gotta go and make me look like an ass now don’t you?
disclaimer: me and Jeff Passan rarely agree on topics…
im legitimately bummed that we agree….
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 30, 2010 2:34 AM EST up reply actions
nope you are now firmly in the passan corner
defending the position that Tulo should have chased championships in a bigger market
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
hey! i never stated what i thought about Tulo
i completely disagree… he said he could have gotten more money and more championships?
both are debatable since he’s getting $20 million after 2014… does he really think Tulo would get that much more cause I sure don’t….
that article was dumb and could have been so much better analzyed
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 30, 2010 2:39 AM EST up reply actions
of course that article was dumb, Passan wrote it
dumb is his best work, when he really digs deep
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
AHEM.......
JEFF PASSAN IS AN ASSHAT.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
and now stlcardsfan4 has to defend him
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
i disagreed with what he said
somehow he managed to defend a solid point completely wrong.. i guess that’s passan for ya…
bad contract… for tulo… wait what fuck?
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 30, 2010 2:43 AM EST up reply actions
ive got a great "impossible" jpg that would be awesome here
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I DO NOT SUPPORT PASSAN
or that article…
but let’s see the jpg anyway cause it would be impossible for me to defend that article…
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 30, 2010 2:45 AM EST up reply actions
that's mean, you know my wings have been clipped
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
bullshit.....you're a wuss.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i wouldn't say wussy
i wish you all knew me before 2002, i was a totally different person back then
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
unsuprisingly
the top 3 google responses for ‘passan asshat’ are from VEB. I’m guessing the other 3 are vebbers posting at other sites.
I've accepted 10 at this point.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
A post that perhaps only Aranathor will care about...
My 5th grade boys are in the City/County soccer championships (post-season tourney).
I’m shitting a brick. It’s much less stressful to do this as an assistant, not that anything will really change.
FYI, your advice on playing my best player at striker has paid off. It’s allowed me to hide my worst players at right forward but not give up too much or get back on my heels.
I’m basically playing 10 on 11 in every game, because I have 4 guys who are really weak, but the rest of my guys are playing well enough that we’ve upset some teams.
Oh, and I'm playing a 4-3-3
Which is effectively a 4-3-2 (my weak guys literally just stand around on the field) but we have enough threat up top that we get lots of breakways.
It also surprises people that we attack from the left, which most people can’t do.
I really like the 4-3-3, as well
The diamond defense is very effective, especially with groups that are not dominant (younger kids, etc.), and especially if you have a good sweeper and stoppper.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 29, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty much everyone plays the defensive diamond in grade school
It causes less confusion and makes you stronger up the middle.
Of, and now I’m doubly concerned because I just found out that my starting outside right defender won’t be able to make Wednesday’s game because she doesn’t want him to stay up that late on a school night.
This may be his only chance to play in a city/county game, but noooooo…
Moms, man.
So where would you hide your weakest player (or 4)?
I’m hiding them at right forward.
Normally, I would hide them at left forward, but I am blessed with a lot of left feet and I’m hoping I will be able to surprise them by attacking from what is normally the weak side.
same strategy I use for picking up women...
get them drunk and hit em from the weak side.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I take it black
Like my men
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Probably exactly what you're doing
also, I tend to wait until the game begins, assess which side my opponent’s attack is stronger, and then put a weaker player defending the other side.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2010 1:58 AM EST up reply actions
we as in the rockies, yes
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by prophetjohn on Nov 29, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
don't worry, i almost shat myself also
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by prophetjohn on Nov 29, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
Ya know what's funny?
Troy Tulowitzki’s amazing September – when he had like 15 home runs – he had a 190 wRC+ (park adjusted wOBA compared to league average).
Please disregard half-comment
meant to compare to Pujols, but then I realized that he never had that high (but he’s had 189).
by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHA
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by prophetjohn on Nov 29, 2010 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
right and in 09 he had 4 straight monthes of 1000+ OPS but never mind
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
OK late night VEB....
I have a full beer and an hour to kill……amuse me.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
How do you feel about peacoats and gay Brits and pre-nups?
First separately and then all of them at once
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i'll have you know
i started the pea coat discussion on another message board that i frequent and the discussion was still going as of today and had gotten quite hostile at points.
controversial stuff
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by prophetjohn on Nov 30, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
See, I don't mind peacoats per se
But if I got a peacoat, I’d have to upgrade the rest of my wardrobe because you can’t have a nice coat and shitty undergarments
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
the whole mixed attire thing is kind of my thing
i like to wear button up shirts with shorts and flip flops. that kind of thing
i’m still not sure how well i pull off the pea coat, though. i guess i’ll only have to worry about it 10 days or so a year
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by prophetjohn on Nov 30, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
I'm proud to say I only have a vague sense of what a pea coat is
by thepainguy on Nov 30, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i'm new to knowing what it is
i had to look it up so that i could buy one
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by prophetjohn on Nov 30, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
It's something wankers wear.
Or (worse yet) wannabe wankers. ;-)
"Beckett’s retired 19 batters through Six and a third innings, he’s having a phenomonal night…" --Tim McCarver
by kallawaykid on Nov 30, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
what, no car repair?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 30, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
So you're older and apparently more manly than me
What are 5 skills that I should know for the real world
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Easy
1. How to use a skill saw.
2. Weld something.
3. Learn to cook. Well.
4. Kill something and eat it.
5. Grow something and eat it / smoke it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Well that's a solid 1/5 for me
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
WHAT HAVE I DONE WITH MY LIFE
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
seriously....
watch the Apocalypse PA show on history. What would you do if the power grid shut down.
Not to get all conspiracy theory or anything, but could you take care of yourself? Kind of some serious shit to think about.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
+1
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 30, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
If the power grid shut down?
I dunno, I guess I’d have to leave my mom’s basement?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I'm some what serious......
But I guess when I think about this stuff, I’m glad I grew up where I did. I have a fighting chance against all you city folk when the Zombies show up.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Ever read "The Road"?
Good story, but a real downer. More than just a power grid fail in that. Mother Earth fail.
"Beckett’s retired 19 batters through Six and a third innings, he’s having a phenomonal night…" --Tim McCarver
by kallawaykid on Nov 30, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
Honestly? I'd get a group of my closest friends who I can trust and set up a small community
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
then you'd eat each other.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 30, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
in a related note, if you're not watching The Walking Dead
you’re missing out on the best new show on TV
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Downloading as we speak
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
OH GOD HE JUST SHOT A LITTLE GIRL
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
WHY ARE THEY ALL SO INACCURATE WITH GUNS
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
it's about to get really, really F'ED UP
and i don’t know why they can’t shoot because later you’ll see they all suddenly can
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
WHERE IS EVERYBODY
ISNT THIS DUDE IN LOVE ACTUALLY
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
OH MY GOD SHE WAS DEAD
AND HOW
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
they still haven't answered where the F
everyone was at
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
OH GOD THE ZOMBIES STILL MOVING
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I SHOULD PROBABLY NOT HAVE WATCHED THIS BEFORE BED
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
naw, you'll be fine
it’s not even the worst episode. just remember, Zombies aren’t real dude
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
so you've never been to NY, huh?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
no, there's zombies in NYC?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
pretty much.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
wouldn't the crocks in the sewers eat them?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Upbringing
Growing up in the country does have it’s advantages.
I learned everything on that list by 14. I will survive the zombie apocalypse.
by WizardofOz1982 on Nov 30, 2010 8:36 AM EST up reply actions
Migrate to a spot that had power(?)
I don’t have a gun, tank, or a Stealth bomber, so I’d probably be screwed w/o power.
"Beckett’s retired 19 batters through Six and a third innings, he’s having a phenomonal night…" --Tim McCarver
by kallawaykid on Nov 30, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
well, I only have one of those three myself.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Is it a tank? We have a tank in my hometown...
…at the armory. If only I knew how to get it moving, I’d be set!
"Beckett’s retired 19 batters through Six and a third innings, he’s having a phenomonal night…" --Tim McCarver
by kallawaykid on Nov 30, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
Nope, I got the bomber.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Impressive.
We should hang out more. I have this one neighbor… Reeeeeally annoying. Perhaps you could take care of him for me. ;-)
"Beckett’s retired 19 batters through Six and a third innings, he’s having a phenomonal night…" --Tim McCarver
by kallawaykid on Nov 30, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
i've done all of those things
except the cooking well part
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by prophetjohn on Nov 30, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
Really?
Most of the stuff I cook is cooked well(done).
/rimshot
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
6. How to use a spinning reel
Hint: The reel goes UNDER the rod, not over it.
I had 2 friends go charter fishing once and, when we got a fish on, not know how to hold the freakin’ rod.
They didn’t look too good.
in bed
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by prophetjohn on Nov 30, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
you spelled funny wrong
/imsuchachild
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
FTFY...
6. How to use a spinning reel fly rod.
You can make a simple fly out of thread.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
You and I are gonna go on a 3-month journey so that I can find myself
No homo
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Graduate, come to MT for a summer.
I’ll hook you up.
No Aran.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
No Brokeback?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
hey! you were going to help me rebuild my truck!
i can’t believe you’re cheating on me!
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Is your truck even in Ohio?
I’m not sure you have the inner constitution to restore a truck. You seem to give up too easily.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i will never give up on that truck
and no, it’s still in Arkansas, if my sis & bro in law go there for xmas i’m going to have them drive my truck down there & haul it back up here so i can at least start tearing it down
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Definitely impresses people, but maybe over the top
I bring one to our cub scout outings and it never fails to impress people that I know how to use one well.
Then people are impressed with how many fish I catch.1
1 My son and I once caught 57 fish (mostly bluegill but some greenies and some bass) in 2 hours on fly rods, and then I was hooked. I have something like 8 fly rods. One 3, one 4, a bunch of 5s and 6s, one 8, and one 10.
that last sentence means exactly nothing to me
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by prophetjohn on Nov 30, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
Wweights of fly rods.
They are balanced for action, and fly line used. The higher the number, the larger the tackle used / fish caught are.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
sweet...I have four, all of which I wrapped myself.
4,5,6,8. If you ever want a custom, let me know. We can exchange services.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
great...
now dig through your junk emails and tell me why I can tell my boys coach he’s on crack.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
The basic gist
is that they want them to start the swing with the elbow tucked, not raised. Their theory is that the elbow ends up tucked against the chest during the swing. My point is that it doesn’t give the swing a chance to load vs starting with the back elbow level with the shoulder as I had always been taught.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
...chest during the swing
Thus by starting it there, it shortens the swing.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
is what that was supposed to say.
I’m drunk, piece it together.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Elbow down
Can increase quickness but at the cost of power, due to the loading thing you describe.
And AVG is tied to power, so a power problem can lead to other problems.
Wait
Can you elaborate on that second sentence? There might be some correlation between average and power, but I don’t think it’s much
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
The harder you hit ball, even on the ground
The harder it is for a player to make a play on it. It also increases the likelihood that a ball hit into the outfield will get through a gap and to the wall.
That was a key to Torres’ improvement; he simply tried to hit the ball harder, which led to improvements in his AVG and SLG.
Yeah I don't know what I was thinking
I’m sick and working on a paper
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
All I know is, when I took him to the cage,
raised his elbow, he started crakning balls. With the elbow in, he slapped everything.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
he's not a "whispy" kid,
if you know what I mean. He’s a 13 yo Adam Dunn. That catches.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
He's unlikely to have a problem with bat drag...
…which is what lowering the back elbow can help, so I would keep his back elbow up as long as it’s working.
Also, if you lower the elbow, you can screw up a kid’s timing and cause him to hit the ball out front (because he’s faster to contact), which can lead to power problems.
I'll tell you what though.....
you ought to see the “best” player on the team…At twelve he threw 85 and hit at least three that I saw that were over 350’. Kid’s a natural and doesn’t even like to play.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I had one kid like that
His swing was ruined (robbed of power) by an idiot coach, who also happens to be one of the top hitting guys in St. Louis.
he had more homers than singles.
Kid tears up a LL field.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Parents don't have to have a reason to do that
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
WHAT ARE THOSE RANDOM "1"S
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
But they don't link to anything
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
that's what you think.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I guess 2 each is a bunch?
Or you have more than 8.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2010 2:04 AM EST up reply actions
Oh I do that twice a week
I’m good on that front
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Yes, I do.
On my steak as well.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Nov 30, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Best steak evar.....
kosher salt, cracked pepper, gran garlic, Worceschestershire sauce and rub in. Grill or broil at about 600^ for 2 minutes on each side.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
My favorite was discovered at random
It’s so good I wrote it down, but it’s a bummer that I can’t always find the spices.
Pepper herb
Tex Mex fiesta
Smokey mesquite
Discovered at random but it’s awesome.
P.S. I need to learn how to broil.
Oh god now I want steak
Is Ralph’s open?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
you need a cast iron pan......
put it in the oven at the hottest setting for 20 minutes,
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
e the steak is coated in EVOO,
throw in some butter. Put steak in pan, and more butter on steak…..cook for 2 minutes. flip steak, add more butter, cook for 2 minutes. Remove from pan, let rest for 5 min, perfect rare broiled steak.
Also, lots of smoke. It’s the price you pay.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
^ e is supposed to be "coat"
and also, switch the oven to broil and remove pan was omitted.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Might want to try swapping out the EVOO for peanut or safflower oil.
Those should have a bit higher smoke point.
Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.
by The Continental on Nov 30, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions
I agree, but when you're going that hot,
they’re all gonna smoke. It’s just lubrication at that point.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
am I supposed to say 'oh snap'
i never get that right
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
proper nomenclature is
BURN!!!!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I was actually expecting a VEP / weed tie-in.
Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.
by The Continental on Nov 30, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
coffee, coco & bacon fat will make a steak that will put hair on your chest
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I don't even know how to answer this
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
There are many but here goes
1. Develop your golf game, most of the truly powerful enjoy the game it is an excellent opportunity to interact with people you would otherwise never meet
2. Cultivate a taste for single malt scotch or whisky then except no substitutes.
3. Buy a set of tools, including a ratcheting end wrench set, a chalk box, a reciprocating saw, a 100ft tape, a framing hammer, an air compressor, a router, a cordless power tool kit, and a pipe wrench…then learn to use them
4. Invest 8% of your earnings yearly in something your personally chose
5. Restore something a car, a house, or even a piece of furniture the experience is irreplaceable
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
by TomCat009 on Nov 30, 2010 1:47 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
^ accept
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
sorry I have been breaking my own advice drinking Monapolowa white russians
all night, that and of course homemade Kahlua make for a Lebowski night
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Home made Kahlua is wonderful
I hope it’s base is ever clear. I’m googling the Monapolowa part.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
ok......
Monapolowa is a Vodka. I’m not much of a vodka guy. Screw drivers before 8. That’s me.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
I like the potato vodka white russians not that their is huge difference
but at least mentally I feel I can taste it
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
You use vanilla beans?
My wife always uses vanilla beans in her homemade Kahlua, it tastes wunderbar.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2010 2:12 AM EST up reply actions
that part of the process I leave to my friend Don
who is a master i must say, my own attempts have fallen short of his but I’ll ask him when I see him next
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
also,
all of these would be in my top 15.
I was shooting from the hip.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I like this
I guess by default I’m already doing #4
But yeah, the rest of these are on my to-do list. I like whiskey, just don’t have the money to buy GOOD whiskey
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
You're in college.
how are you earning anything? Oh, that’s right, you’re Asian.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
... No that was the joke. 8% of my earnings ARE going into investments because 8% of 0 is 0
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Also I have no idea what you meant by that
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
...

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
when you are old and fat like me you will understand the difference
between Whisky and Whiskey
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Middleton's
That is all.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
if you are buying a bottle with two d's on it
someone is making a rare profit off of you
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
I've been drinking for 4 hours......
I’m sounding it out at this point.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I say as long as most of the syllables are there they should serve you still
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Great story....
First time I had Midelton’s my friend and I are in a Schwaggy hotel in SLC….bartender is treating us like crap…..My buddy notices Midelton’s and say’s “I have to buy you one of these, it’s amazing.” Bartender rings it up, and voids it out twice, then looks up at us and says, it’s $30 a shot. My buddy calmly looks at him and says, “yes, I know.” Best go fuck yourself moment ever after the way the snobby bartender treated us.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
was it the Marriot downtown?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Grand America
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
You've definitely told this story before
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Not to Tom...
just you fucks.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
...

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
isn't that a complement in your culture?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Nope still don't get it
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
it's probably not as funny as i thought it was
still probably just as raciest though
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I can't relate anything said to my culture haha
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
that is the thing about asians they
aren’t very good at racist jokes
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
by TomCat009 on Nov 30, 2010 3:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yessssssss this is how it's done
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
but they can pronounce it so well.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
just don't let their women drive
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
DWA is a serious disease.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
say lacist out loud.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
sounds like an official postion
at the tatting club
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
3.5 hours and 5 beers later,
Fuck me.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
do i have to? because no offense, you're really not my first choice
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
sorry, no, but you're in the top 20, so you've got that going for you, which is nice right?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I have to work in 5.5 hrs
else I may join you.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
tiers...
god tier : Pre nups
Good tier : gay Brits
Bad tier : pea coats
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
and fail.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
On a lighter note:
Did anyone else catch the “Future of Sports” panel discussion at Wash U tonight?
"Beckett’s retired 19 batters through Six and a third innings, he’s having a phenomonal night…" --Tim McCarver
Here's somewhat of a livetweet of it
http://twitter.com/#!/indakind
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I was there. Wondered what others thought of it.
I was glad Bill James was there. He wasn’t the most lucid speaker, but I thought he was the most entertaining. He offered the most opposition to others’ opinions – mainly Costas. Which also added to the entertainment value.
"Beckett’s retired 19 batters through Six and a third innings, he’s having a phenomonal night…" --Tim McCarver
Bill James could use the reply button.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yeah, I'm no Bill James.
He also knows how to make the WNBA successful. And how to shorten MLB games to 90min.
"Beckett’s retired 19 batters through Six and a third innings, he’s having a phenomonal night…" --Tim McCarver
by kallawaykid on Nov 30, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
I'm also a prick, so there's that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
mysterui's youtube videos of the day, no Lady Gaga edition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypPVpqDlLe8
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Derp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXHafOK75v0
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Billy Mays orders at McDonalds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtYdDK1uTDI
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
BEST YOUTUBE VIDEO OF ALL TIME
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx4UEe98EkY
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
That really wasn't that funny.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
OH WELL NEITHER IS YOUR FACE SO TAKE THAT RIVERRAT
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
So I'm writing a 6 page paper on a 1 page short story
…about Chinese literature
THIS IS THE WORST
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Nov 30, 2010 12:31 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
That's like having a bunch of spoons
but needing a knife, and being to dumb to flip the spoon over to spread the butter.
/odd fact, spell check doesn’t have flip for an option for hlip.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Nov 30, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
that has never occured to me. i usually just spread the butter with the bottom of the spoon getting pretty poor results
quality of life: significantly improved
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 30, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Are you
What is this I don’t even
wat
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Nov 30, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The fact that it was shouted out
as a revelation is what makes the comment.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Nov 30, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
seriously
this changes everything
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 30, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
...I honestly have no idea what you mean by this
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Nov 30, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's what I was going for.
but PJ’s comment made it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Nov 30, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
...

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i know i'm ten minutes early
but i’m about to go to bed early. being sick is kind of exhausting
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 30, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
So I'm watching a show on the Remington 700 rifle
It has a problem with inadvertent firings.
When I was a kid (13ish), a 14YO accidentally shot his sister with what I believe was a similar gun (bolt action high powered rifle).
I wonder if this was related to that.
I had a problem with inadvertent firings when I was 13 too
OH COME ON THAT WAS TOO EASY
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Your Girl friend told me last night, that you still had that problem.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
If it was a 700, yes.
Rem has been fixing the old models of the 700 for years for free. It’s not a flat out recall, but it’s a problem. From what I remember, it had a tendency to let off when ejecting a shell. Accurate fucking rifle though. Drawback, you might kill someone unintentionally.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
I have no idea what happened
I always assumed he pulled the trigger, but now I wonder.
Of course, who the hell keeps a round the chamber at home?
The accidents happen up here walking back to the truck.
It was never uncommon to walk in the field with a round in the chamber and the gun on safe. Getting back to the truck and ejecting a round is where I’ve heard about a lot of accidents happening.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I never jack a shell in untill something is in range
as long as you are slow and careful it shouldn’t be hard to avoid alerting an animal
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Pheasant hunt much?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
but I agree.
You also have to admit that it’s common practice.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
true enough and with my Beretta AL3901 I have
been guilty of being cocked and locked on Pheasants at least, that is more a case of line of sight and knowing where the other hunters are. Obviously with my over/under there is no option
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Well, When we're pushing a thick of timber,
I guarantee I’ve had one jammed with my thumb on the safety. If you haven’t, I would postulate you haven’t been hunting.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I hunt in Colorado where it is either 300+ yards or 15 feet
not a whole lot in between when I am brush popping I use a lever action or my Beretta 12ga were all it takes is a button push to jack one in, not judging just overly cautious.
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
big difference between quickly jacking a lever or working a bolt.
If I was getting on to game, or even after dropping it, I had a live round in the chamber. That’s the only point I’m trying to make in this. Live round in chamber…go to unload gun ….gun go boom.
Bad things happen.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I remember the first day I had my SKS I put it back
together after cleaning all of the cosmoline off of it, and used a live round to check the action. It got jammed and I took it outside to try and work it loose and blew a 5 inch crater in my grass
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
and also, no I don't use an 06 for birds, but I do for deer or elk.
Theory is the same. I’ve been on many a stalk where I would load a round, put the gun on safe and stalk the game. Many times, you will finish a stalk with nothing happening, thus having to unload.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
yeah, wasn't questioning the tactic
just thought the idea of hunting really small birds with a really big rifle was humorous.
Anyway, regardless, when you unload the weapon, it should be pointed somewhere safe, cuz shit happens.
Agreed, and probably one reason I've never killed anyone.
Yet.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
my brother shot a woodpecker at about 15 feet with a 30-06
on the wing… that will teach the little bastards to put holes in the hunting cabin
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
I use a highly inaccurate pump pellet gun
to kill the damn flickers attacking my house and trees. Gawd, I hate those things.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2010 2:30 AM EST up reply actions
all we foud of that one was a bloody wing
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
or points a gun at his sister while ejecting a shell
unless the dude was in the basement and shot her through the floor, or something, but even that implies a darwin factor.
OTOH, Remington’s “”http://www.remington700.tv/#/remingtonsafety">official response" is hilarious, from a critical thinking perspective. The narrator for the first 2 minutes was probably drunk, and the response never really answered the allegation.
Apparently, I need to watch this.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Round in the chamber at home
I do.
There’s a round in the chamber of my 1911 and a full clip in the nightstand next to my bed. My 7 mag is usually loaded but not chambered. The .22 in the closet by the door is always loaded though not chambered. I don’t have any kids and my wife is as gun savvy or more than I am. We’re probably the exception to the rule.
I’d actually think we’re probably safer even with loaded guns in the house like we have them than most of the dumbass deer hunters we have around here.
by WizardofOz1982 on Nov 30, 2010 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
Ah, so THAT explains Cheney.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2010 2:20 AM EST up reply actions
my dad's only brother died at 14 in some sort of accident involving a deer rifle
I wonder what model it was?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZBbtk47vZw&feature=related
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by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2010 1:19 AM EST reply actions
Not funny whatsoever
Now this, on the other hand…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQlgA68z_L4&feature=related
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
the two links posted above are two of the funnier videos out there.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions
Mother of ass, my keg just ran out.
I’ve got another, but it’s not as good.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Sam Adams WL
for the backup. I’ve got a bitter at the brewery I’ll pick up tomorrow.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
Good stuff
Prefer Old Fezziwig though
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I keep one Sam ADAMS, The IPA from
my local brewery, and usually one other from them on tap at all times. My Bitter was ready to be picked up last week, and I just ran out of IPA. I don’t like to run out of IPA. That’s my Bud Light.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
linki
Give them clicks, since you can’t buy their beer.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
Winter lager is my favorite sam adams
I can’t drink the fezziwig stuff. Just not into lambics.
The holiday porter is also pretty good, but you can never get it except as part of the “seasonal” thingy, which means you have to drink 3 lambics to get 3 holiday porters. Boo.
ya, I always look forward to this time of year from them.
I love their Oktoberfest and WL, Spring is ok, and you can take or leave Summer afaic. I’m just glad that there’s some great locals to fill the gap. It’s $10 cheaper for a 1/6 barrel from the brewery vs. Sams.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
WTF are there 200 new comments?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Way OT:
why don’t we get this Ronald?!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2010 2:24 AM EST reply actions
I have an urge to purchase McNuggets.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
because Japan is a country of horny freaks
not like American horny freaks mind you. those freaks are really freaking freaky.
also we had standards & practices that keep a lid on what is & what is not decent. f’ing lawyers
(IHB excluded of course)
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
So does Larry Walker get 5% of the vote to stay on the HOF Ballot?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Probably not, but maybe.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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I think he should be in...
Along with Alomar and Larkin.
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
Scratch that.
I think he should be in…
Along with Alomar, Larkin Bagwell, and Blyleven
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
Larkin
Do you think he’s unworthy or just not as worthy as Bagwell and Blyleven?
Larkin should be in the Hall of Fame regardless of who else is on the ballot this year. If there are 5 people worthy then I wish they’d just elect all 5. I get sick of playing the “We can only have 2 electees so we’ll wait till next year on player x” game.
For what it’s worth I’m not sure about Walker’s candidacy. Alomar, Larkin, Bagwell, and Blyleven all deserve it.
by WizardofOz1982 on Nov 30, 2010 8:56 AM EST up reply actions

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