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is derek jeter smoking crack?

[danup note: I found this lurking in the back-end. Suck it, SB Nation blog software. That Brad Penny pitchf/x post was nowhere to be found.]

preliminary matter: is derek jeter smoking crack? word is that the yankees are offering him a 3y/$45m contract, which seems on the generous side of just about right. at this point jeter is a 3 win shortstop, which is nothing to scoff at, but not something meriting . . . oh, 4 or 5 years at $23-24m.

derek did have an outstanding 7 win year in 2009, but that appears to be in large part due to a defensive metric anomaly: for the last eight seasons, derek jeter has been a negative value in the field. except in 2009, when he suddenly was worth a positive 6.4 runs in the field. this occurred at the same time he had a decent season with the bat. in 2010, he had a collossal dropoff, hitting only .320 in wOBA.

in fairness, that could just be bad luck; jeter has a .357 lifetime BABIP, yet had a .307 BABIP in 2010. going into a year 37 season, however, it's probably not time for clubs to just assume that he'll continue to pull in .360 or .370 wOBAs until he's 41 or 42. his diminished BABIP may be due in part to slowing down as he ages - thus beating out fewer groundballs. he also hit fewer line drives last year than ever (16.1%) and more grounders than ever (65.7%). the larger point is that jeter is right at the age when almost everybody begins to decline. if you review the top 500 seasons by war at B-R, you'll see very few entries from the 37and over category: barry bonds has a number of entries, cy young has two,phil niekro has one, ted williams has one, and dazzy vance, a righthanded pitcher for the brooklyn robins, in 1928 was worth 9.0 wins. the non-chemically enhanced category of 37+ year olds comprises just 1% of all top WAR seasons.

now, obviously, jeter doesn't have to be worth 8 wins to be worth a contract for $23m or $24m. the larger point was that the aging curve gets pretty steep right now. betting on a 37 year old to be better than average next year is chancy. betting on a 37 year old to be a 5 win player for the next three, four, five years is just stupid.

Star-divide

one of the things we're in the market for is a second left-handed reliever. there's lots of reason to think that we overvalue LOOGys. i think it would be a big waste to spend any major chunk of money there. needless to say, i think it's very likely that we will drop a chunk of money there.

it look that the dodgers are going to non-tender george sherrill. he had a vomit-inducing 2010 by most metrics -- he went from a 1.70 ERA in 2009 to a 6.69 ERA in 2010; a 3.21 FIP to a 5.20 FIP; a 4.16 xFIP to a 5.61. xFIP.

this should be a cautionary tale, first off, in relying on one season samples with relievers. relievers pitch so few innings one season is not enough time to reduce the luck factors to a meaningful level. it should also be an extra caution against trying to use single season traditional stats on relievers: sherrill's jump from 1.70 to 6.69 in ERA in a single season should show how unstable and non-predictive  the ERA stat is. while his more advanced stats showed greater stability, there was a big shift there as well.

the biggest change was that sherrill's walk rate went through the roof -- he allowed 5.94 BB/9. still, again, with the instability in single seasons for relievers. sherrill's career walk rate is 4.42. however, he's had three seasons of 5.50 BB/9 or worse. he's also had four seasons of 3.50 BB/9 or better. the kicker: he's only had seven seasons in the majors. i doubt the reason is that he's the jekyll/hyde of the loogy world.  i suspect that he's really pretty much the same pitcher from season to season; he just has huge swings from one year to another due to luck.

we love to have these big arching narratives in neat season-long packages for relievers, even though the season is not really a meaningful sample for them: brad lidge comes to mind here.

anyway, the original point i was getting at is i still wouldn't give sherrill more than $1m or so. the point i ended up at instead was that you should never just look at one season with a reliever to figure out what his talent level is.

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i would be all for signing george sherrill.

Please don't come back, TLR.
Please come back, DD.

by tehzachatak on Nov 27, 2010 8:38 PM EST reply actions  

yes, i would agree this would be a good idea

we could get him for dirt cheap

Fire John Mozeliak

by purple_haze on Nov 27, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

bahaha
That Brad Penny pitchf/x post was nowhere to be found

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 9:24 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

as did i

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

ditto

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 27, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

ditto marks

Stupid SBN wouldn’t let me put in real ditto marks there… asshats.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 28, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

RE: Jeter

It won’t happen, but I’d love it if what stlcards4 suggested yesterday happened. Cashman should just laugh when they present him with that suggestion.

by ArkansasTravs on Nov 27, 2010 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

thanks, danup! someday you'll have to show me that trick.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Nov 27, 2010 10:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

month or two ago

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

When the robot started it.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 27, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

even

automated it

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

weirdly enough, I think I might've done the first few (correct me if i'm wrong yadi2s)

I don’t think I like it very much, though. Like most memes it’s got a short shelf-life.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Nov 28, 2010 7:47 AM EST up reply actions  

*corrects you*

Using the phrase is not the same as starting the meme.

Oh, by the way, you’re no longer our most favored Brit. or favoured. Your next deposit will reflect the paycut.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Who is, Aranathor?

He might be more juicy and inspire more wild and crazy subthreads, but I say we put this to a vote, the American way, before we make royal pronouncements from on high.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 28, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

When i first read that i was outraged,

cause i missed the comma in the subject line. Cursed grammer.

You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Nov 28, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

it's the economy, bobo!

should a poster surpass the other in awesomeness and frequency of posting, then they would generate the most page-views, influence, and VEB card points.

so it’s capitalism at work.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn...

You make a powerful argument.
While I won’t argue with your point per se, I am skeptical that you can provide me an accurate measurement of what the VEB market had decided, vis a vis picking the more “favo[u]red” Brit poster.
Also, I would think a popular vote would reflect basically the same result as such a measurement, since VEB posters are logical entities who make decisions which reflect their own priorities.
Your pronouncement earlier still amounts to a bureaucratic dictat since you’re just picking one without providing objective proof.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 28, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

SBN search does it.

also, if anyone can measure such arcane trends….. it’s probably me. [hangs head]

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

My favo[u]rite poster of a Brit

is this.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 28, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Kate Beckinsale

is ridiculously hot.

Just had to add that in there.

by WizardofOz1982 on Nov 29, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

do we have to have a favorite?

they bring two completely different things to the table that make them great posters…. its like asking whether you think Ovechkin or A-rod is a better player?

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 28, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I concur

I live my life and by extension my comments on VEB by the motto encapsulated in this song.

Just because i am greatly superior to Felonius Monk in everyway doesn’t mean we have to choose!

You can't spell 'Inebriated' without 'Aranathor'
Forsooth and Verily

by Aranathor on Nov 28, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

favorite doesn't mean anyone is banned

it’s like favorite in an economic sense

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

er, favored

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, there's scarcity to consider

The supply of Felonious Monk has been down lately. Is this a true change of the demand curve?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 28, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

scarcity just means you slowly fade away from the internet

it’s a 21st Century economy
in which facebook trademarks “face”
thus changing the complexion of VEB insults

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

This is heavy stuff

In a few years progressive universities will offer courses in “VEB-onomics”.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 28, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

rec

for linking to the real deal and not a Glee makeover

by ArkansasTravs on Nov 28, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

who do you take me for

I don’t mess with that nonsense
this **** is legit, yo

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

make.it.green.

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 27, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

All win.

Now I need a new keyboard.

by Riney on Dec 3, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm glad he was able to retrieve it

nice post tom s.

i’ll admit it’s hard for me to comprehend the swing in Sherrill’s numbers being mostly luck, but for a cool million I’d take the chance that he throws 70 very nice innings for the Cardinals.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Nov 28, 2010 3:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Here's how I see this panning out:

Jeter’s Agent: “I demand an even more absurd amount of money than you offered already!”
Yankees: “lol, no.”
Jeter’s Agent: “Then I’m going to start fielding offers from other teams!”
Yankees: “lol, okay.”

Two weeks later.

Jeter’s Agent: “Turns out the market isn’t great for a 36.5-year-old shortstop coming off the worst year of his career.”
Yankees: “lol, duh.”
Jeter’s Agent: “We’ll take the $15 million per year you offered.”
Yankees: “lol, good.”

by mojowo11 on Nov 27, 2010 11:00 PM EST reply actions   3 recs

lol, cash man

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that ending should be a bit different
Jeter’s Agent: "We’ll take the $15 million per year you offered."
Yankees: "lol, no, it’s now $12.5 million per year."

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 28, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

it should be

but I’d be surprised if they dropped their offer even though no one else is going to approach it.

After all HE’S JETERRRR!@!

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Nov 28, 2010 3:37 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, maybe, i don't know what he's smoking all i know is i want some

if only to date the Minka Kelly’s of the world like he does

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 27, 2010 11:43 PM EST reply actions  

ok, i'm flipping through channels

there’s a dude on … Chelsea Lately?
wearing a Cardinals t-shirt. a Springfield Cardinals t-shirt.

of course there are no nameplates, so I have no clue who he is.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 27, 2010 11:46 PM EST reply actions  

it's either

John Caparulo or Ryan Stout. I’m thinking it’s the former…. yeah, it’s the former.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 27, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah it's Cap...

he’s a funny guy. He rotates all kinds of various sports related t-shirts… I’m going to act like I don’t TiVo this show and watch the ones that have comedians I like on it to preserve a bit of street cred.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 28, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

they let you out on the street

?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep...

They even let me tell people how to build them. It’s a scary thought.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 28, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Fuck my school

Drinky time

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 27, 2010 11:51 PM EST reply actions  

just so you all know even though i have a job now, i'm still the same old GDM

at 1130 a girl texts me that we should go out get plastered & make bad/good decisions together. of course i agree & we go back & forth for a few minutes about where to meet. then she says she changed her mind & it’s too late & she’s tired & she’s going to bed.

one day they will make a movie about my life, only no one would ever believe any of it actually happened so they won’t be able to say “the following events are true, only the names & places have been changed to protect the innocent.”

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 12:24 AM EST reply actions  

Didn't they do this already?

Forrest Gump

I thought I told you to trim those sideburns!

by martimeryard on Nov 28, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

but the other day I learned gdm hates running

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

and i wasn't alive in the 60's

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

You hate running?!

WHY?

Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.

by mtzxc on Nov 28, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

bad knees, i hurt them in high school

left one on the basketball court, right one on home plate

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Run on grass or all weather track instead of concrete or a tread mill.

Less impact shock.

Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.

by mtzxc on Nov 28, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

i've switched to the bike & it's more of a work out than the treadmill ever was

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

we don't need a remake

that’s all i’m sayin

I thought I told you to trim those sideburns!

by martimeryard on Nov 28, 2010 6:55 AM EST up reply actions  

it wouldn't be a remake because it would blow Forrest out of the water

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

You got a job I hate having to read veb on my f***ing phone.

F*** you internet company that caught me torrenting a movie.

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Nov 28, 2010 3:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

last time it happened to me

they disconnected my internet. but all i had to do was call to get it turned back o9n

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 28, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Dazzy Vance

also pitched for the Cardinals. He was traded to them from the Brooklyn Dodgers in February of 1933, and then was claimed off waivers by the Reds in June of 1934, so he didn’t make it to the World Series with the Gashouse Gang that year. He pitched in 9 games in 1915, when he was 24, then 2 games in 1918, and finally made it as a regular in 1922, at the age of 31. He won the first NL League award (precursor to the MVP) in 1924, with a record of 28-6, 262 Ks in 308+ innings, a league-low 2.16 ERA and an ERA+ of 174. In the season noted above, 1928, when he was 37, he went 22-10 with a league-low 2.09, struck out 200 in 280+ innings, and had an ERA+ of 192. He made it into the HOF in 1955, 20 years after he retired.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 28, 2010 1:01 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Notably in 1924

He beat Hornsby for the NL league award despite the Rajah’s .424 average (which stands as the record under modern rules).

The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!

by Zubin on Nov 28, 2010 1:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I just bought the gas house gang book written by heindry

Found in my mailbox last night after getting back from a party at 2am and i’ve already read most of it(like 80% finished)…
Funny thing is i bought it to read for winter break which is in 3 weeks still. Now i must find something else to read.

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Nov 28, 2010 3:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Have you read Halberstam's

October 1964, yet? Or Glory Fades Away: The Nineteenth-Century World Series Rediscovered, by Jerry Lansche? Or The Bullpen Gospels, by Dirk Hayhurst (haven’t finished this one yet, but it gets great reviews)?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 28, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

A Second Rec

for October 1964. Great book but I haven’t read a bad one by Halberstam yet. He’s definitely one of my favorite sports authors.

by WizardofOz1982 on Nov 29, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

262 Strikeouts

The guy who finished third in the league in strikeouts had 86. That’s right, kids, he had at least three times as many strikeouts as any other player in the NL, save one (teammate Burleigh Grimes K’d 135). He had a 2:1 edge in pitcher bWAR over second place (9.1 to 4.5). It was a thoroughly dominating season as a pitcher.

That said, Hornsby posted a 13.0 bWAR, a single-season mark bested only by Babe Ruth, Walter Johnson, and a bunch of 19th-century hurlers (Old Hoss Radbourn 1884 – 20.3!). The Rajah didn’t win the award because Vance was so dominating compared to other pitchers and, more importantly for the era, the Cardinals sucked and the Robins (as they were known at the time) fell just short of the pennant, 1.5 games back. From Bill James – "[The award] became a controversial selection, much like the 1947 AL Award, when it was learned that one voter, Jack Ryder of Cincinnati, had left Hornsby off his ten-man ballot. Hornsby, said Ryder, had hit .424 not for his team but for himself, and his performance had failed to lift the Cardinals above 65 wins. This logic outraged the St. Louis fans, and a round of name-calling followed, during which, as often happens, a key fact was overlooked. Even if Ryder had voted for Hornsby, even if he had listed him first, Vance would still have won the Award …"

I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson

by Solanus on Nov 28, 2010 8:13 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Jeter

My guess is that he too egotistical to accept the Yankee’s multiple-year offer and instead goes to arbitration. He will get more money for 1 year and he thinks he can bounce back to his younger self.

The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!

by Zubin on Nov 28, 2010 1:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Jeter wasn't offered arbitration.

linky

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 28, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

no curly fries, yep.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Beer people

2 New Belgium glasses for $6 – Free Shipping

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 28, 2010 3:54 AM EST reply actions  

my personal favourite glass

I like the goose island tulip one too, the one i’ve got must, I guess, be something of a rarity because there ain’t a picture of it that I can find anywhere.

The ridiculous Kwak one with the wooden stand is kinda cool as well, in a horribly tacky over-the-top way. Not so keen on the beer, though.

Anyhow, those looks like nice glasses.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Nov 28, 2010 7:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I like how that photo is all ethereal and misty

Ooh ooh dreamweaver!
I believe I can drink me through the ni-ight!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 28, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Biznitch

http://www.truebeer.com/Westmalle-Beer-Glass_p_42.html

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 28, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

hey, that beer is overflowing

someone needs to get a towel

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 28, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

These are my faves...

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 28, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

i wish they would have shopped out the rest of that logo

Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)

by mattyfrommo on Nov 28, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey I have this

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 28, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

This sounds like made up bullshit.

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Nov 28, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It is not.....

you should see the bubbles from the nucleation sight…..It’s pretty wild. A constant cylinder of bubbles rolls to the top.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 28, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Even the terminology makes it sound like some crank invented it,

and is making up words to try to make it sound sciency and authentic. Nucleation site? Come on now.

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Nov 28, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

haters gonna hate

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Has anyone out there tried any of the canned beers from Oskar Blues Brewery in

Longmont, Colorado? Just tried their Mama’s Little Yella Pils, thought it was yummy. They also have Old Chub Scotch Ale, Dale’s Pale Ale, Gordon Ale (an imperial red/double IPA), Ten Fidy (an imperial stout), Gubna Imperial IPA, and a bunch of other specialty on tap beers)

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 28, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I've heard it's really good, have yet to try their brews

was hoping to go there when I vacationed in Denver, but didn’t get around to it.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 28, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes!!!

Love Mama’s Little Yella Pils. Probably one of my top 5. I’ve only come across it twice though. The Dale’s Pale Ale is good too.

by cdc81 on Nov 29, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Everyone can chill in this thread today.

The cough I had has grown to flu-ish symptoms and the porcelain god beckons me to worship on him bended knee.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Nov 28, 2010 11:05 AM EST reply actions  

That sucks

Get well soon.
I’m pretty much the only person here anyway.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 28, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Ugh. i think I got sick at the USC game last night

This feels terrible

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 28, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

My entire family is sick, tis only a matter fo time till I succumb to it.

But yeah, Notre Dame beating USC for the first time in forever cheers me up. (Even though they should have lost, 2 touchdowns were dropped by the receivers in the final drive)

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Nov 28, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. If Barkley were in, we would've won by 20. Mustain is just that terrible

At least your backup is better than the two guys he replaced…

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 28, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

:P

Backups ftw!

Barkley is such a beast, ND got lucky.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Nov 28, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, a rare good week for Notre Dame

the football program managed to beat USC and not be involved in killing anyone.

by mattyp on Nov 28, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Do I hear a rimshot? I believe I do!

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Nov 28, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Talking to god on the big white telephone, eh?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 28, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

In bed.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 28, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

family

or I just ate something bad. Amazing how much better you feel after throwing up a couple times and then sleeping for the afternoon.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Nov 28, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

hope you feel better soon man

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

i took a three hour nap and now i feel worse

i hope this isn’t something worse coming on. i have a final tomorrow at noon

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 28, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

A little less than an hour until "bloody hour"

I can only assume this means that it is appropriate to drink a bloody mary on Sunday at 11 AM Central. It’s a good bet my parents don’t wait that long.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 28, 2010 11:07 AM EST reply actions  

It's Time!!!!

and apparently it’s just some shitty marketing campaign that coincides with NFL kickoff, which I can only assume was designed to mock me and the entire day of studying and writing I have ahead of me. Dear people involved in marketing, Bill Hicks has some advice for you.

by mattyp on Nov 28, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm ahead of the game...

I just walked the dog with a glass of wine upon waking up and have a nice sunday buzz!

You fit into me
like a hook into an eye

a fish hook
an open eye

by Red Blazer on Nov 28, 2010 12:29 PM EST reply actions  

Living the dream, good sir

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 28, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

wake up, start drinking. heck yeah

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 28, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

You can't drink all day,

unless you start first thing in the morning.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 28, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Wait, so are you into all American sports?

How did this happen?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 28, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

ARSENAL GUNNERS

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 28, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

HOLYFIELD HARPIES

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Nov 28, 2010 8:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

it has been quite nice

packers lost, bears won, and my second favorite team, the Chargers, will win

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 28, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

nice

I might as well make them my #3. the redskins, cardinals, and browns aren’t really doing anything, and I like underdog teams

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 28, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I like to have several teams to root for since the bears usually don't do too much

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 28, 2010 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

left 4 dead 2 is $5 on steam right now

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 28, 2010 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

dang it

please make this line available for ps3!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Nov 28, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I need to be at least 30 years younger to understand this post

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 28, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

The older one gets, the less one understands ...

and the happier one is for it.

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Nov 28, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

how many people here are like me and have been a Cardinals fan ever since they got out of the womb?

or at the least became Cards fan, not virtue of choice, but by household and don’t even remember the day you became a fan?

what scares me is that I could see myself being a Cubs fan still if my family rooted for the Cubs and my rationalization would be how good of a fan I was after all the years they’ve sucked (shudders)

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 28, 2010 1:51 PM EST reply actions  

i was young

but i came to the cardinals of my own accord. i would guess i was about 10. i grandfather was a cardinals fan, but he did when i was pretty young. other than that, none of my family were into sports before i became a cardinals fan

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 28, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

let us know if you begin to zombify

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

none here

or are you fallen ill as well

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

i don’t know what my life would be without sports to be honest… then i would have to talk about… politics? Yeh no thanks….

wait are you from st. louis? I just wonder if you are how your family manages to not be Cardinals fans? It seems hard to do that…. Of course again I lived in a household that watched the Cardinals obssessively

and the more i read your post the more typos/mistakes I find… which is hilarious

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 28, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

not st louis

mid-mo

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twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 28, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Similar story here

no big baseball fans in my family, only handegg. I had actually rooted for the Tigers in ’67. One of my friends from Sunday School was a Cards fan and he got me hooked. By the ’68 Series, I was a Cards fan. Got my mom hooked and have brought up both my girls to know they must never marry a Cubs or Yankees fan.

by ArkansasTravs on Nov 28, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

born a fan, I suppose

I shudder to think of an alternate reality where Musial and Brock weren’t household names. And let’s face it, of all the badasses ever to flaunt their badassery on the mound, Bob Gibson was the badassest. I’m one lucky sob that I get to call him one of my own.

by mattyp on Nov 28, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I become a Cardinal fan when I was around 7

Every time my parents would have sex they would sit me in front of the tv and turn on the Cardinals game to keep me busy

by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 28, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions   4 recs

this explains a lot

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 28, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

shudder

that story would make more sense as an explanation of why you are NOT a Cardinals fan.

by mattyp on Nov 28, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

although, at least they had a healthy relationship

from what I’ve heard of married life, 162 times a year is a lot

by mattyp on Nov 28, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

this seems like a misunderstanding of home plate

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

[Joke about performance enhancing substances]

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 28, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

every time you say something, Flim

i imagine a wacky theme song plays and then an announcer goes “Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaats FlimtotheFlam!”

Fire John Mozeliak

by purple_haze on Nov 28, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

"his. name. is flimtotheflammmm"

doesn’t have the same ring to it

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

does flim have large man boobs?

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 28, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

then the fight club reference doesn't work

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 28, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

i might've put emphasis on the wrong syllable

maybe it should be flimmmmmmtotheflam
or fliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimtotheflam

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i was very little

maybe three or four. i don’t remember at all. i was completely ushered into Cards fandom, probably before I even fully knew english.

Fire John Mozeliak

by purple_haze on Nov 28, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

As long as I can remember

which includes going to a ballgame in ‘63 to watch Stan the Man in his final season. I was 5, and although I apparently went to other games that year, that’s the only one I remember from that season.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 28, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

you're the same age as my parents

/factoid

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 28, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Prophet

I am your father.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 28, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

is that some kind of flick show from the 40s?

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 28, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

this puts a new angle on your mom jokes

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I am a foreigner (from Alabama)

and therefore a Cardinals fan by choice, not historical accident.

Well, married to a St. Louis ex-sportswriter, but that had nothing to do with it.

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Nov 28, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

What did she write for?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 28, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Suburban Journals for ten years.

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Nov 28, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

i thought that used to be Cardinals territory

historically

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Historically it was football territory.

Real football, not that weenie paid-above-the-table thing.

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Nov 28, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Born and raised in St. Louis, so I'm a Cardinals fan by destiny

I’m also really, really glad I am a Cardinals fan. I really can’t think of a baseball franchise that I’d rather be a fan of, when I do my best to compare them objectively. Best combo of likeability, history, fanbase, success, etc.
Also, Albert Pujols. Part of the joy I experienced and continue to experience in becoming a serious baseball fan with heavy education from the saber-inclined internet was learning to appreciate just how awesome Albert is. And it’s happening while he’s playing, rather than after the fact.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 28, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

the home run chase & my dad being a cards fan

i was 6 when the home run chase was going on, and i became a mark mcgwire fan before i knew that my dad was a cards fan. so, from that, it was an easy choice.

by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 28, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I was young.

My dad is a huge Yankees fan (because of Mantle) and his dad is a huge Cardinals fan (being from southern “Missour-ah”). I remember listening to my grandpa’s LP’s of great moments in Cardinals history. But, more than any family member, Ozzie Smith is the reason I’m a Cardinals fan.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Nov 28, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Ozzie Smith

Ozzie is the reason I became a Cardinals fanatic. He’s also the reason I spent a year playing SS in Little League diving at every ball hit between second and third. I often think this is probably why I was moved to catcher after that year and started collecting Ted Simmons baseball cards but I digress.

by WizardofOz1982 on Nov 29, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep. Born into it. Attended my first game in 1977 before I was 1.

Although my first game memory is of Boston at Kansas City in Yaz’s last year. Tudor started for the Sawx.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 28, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

my household was an odd combination of both cardinal and cub fans

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 28, 2010 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

and I found out my mom was a Yankees fan when she was younger

 the oddest part was that my dad was a fan of the cards and the cubs. probably because he did business trips to both cities I guess

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 28, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Born and raised Cards fan.

My father was in attendance for Stan’s final game along with 3 different WS games (67,82,85). I briefly became a Pirate fan after the Cards traded Andy Van Slyke, but was quick to come back to my senses. Had I not grown up an hour south of St. Louis, I’d still like to think I would have become a Cardinal fan.

by cdc81 on Nov 29, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd like to think so to

but i don’t think I would be a cardinals fan… or at least this big of one…

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 1:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Since the womb

I’m pretty sure my first onesie had the BotB on it.

I know my first baby baseball cap did because I still have it to pass on when I have a son. If I have a daughter first she’ll get a visor I guess lol.

I’ve never known anything other than watching the Cardinals play. Mon and Dad are fans. Grandpa was a fan. My grandmother is probably the biggest fan of all but I never knew it till I lived with her for a while to help take care of her. She still calls me during just about every game during the season to gripe about LaRussa and whatever dumb thing he did that game.

by WizardofOz1982 on Nov 29, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

marlins signed javier vazquez

over under 5th place for 2011 cy young?

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 28, 2010 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

hard to see why vazquez jumped so quickly

this had to be the lowest possible outcome for him. Good catch for the Marlins

Just win

by The Duke on Nov 28, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

He has a home in Sunny Isles, Flordia,

according to Heyman.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Nov 28, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

$7m and they can't offer him arb.

Decent deal.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Nov 28, 2010 5:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Also, a full no-trade clause.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Nov 28, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

HFS

Andre Johnson vs Cortland Finnegan

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 28, 2010 4:00 PM EST reply actions  

If only I got fantasy points for punches landed...

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Nov 28, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

i was there

and was so amazed the fight went in waves…those two then everyone else…first i was like this is great then i was like hope someone doesnt get hurt especially the ref…finnegan comes out to where we were taunting fans..funny

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on Nov 28, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

they tried their best not to

that’s the only game I’ve gotten to see on TV, living in fort collins.

by DanUpBaby on Nov 28, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

but you live in fort collins, you're not supposed to be sitting inside watching tv are you?

haven’t they taught you how to kill a elk with your bare hands yet?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I am taking so little advantage of being in colorado

I don’t drink microbrews, I don’t hike in the mountains, I can’t ski, and I have not yet killed even a single elk, not even with my car.

by DanUpBaby on Nov 28, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

elk's are huge man, i wouldn't want to hit one with a car

you really should try & get out more if you’re schedule allows it. i hear colorado is one of the best states to live in

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

My step son got his first on Friday......

They cut it today. I’ve got two tenderloin roasts for next weekend.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 28, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

i've always wanted to try elk but i've never had the chance, does it taste like venison?

and did he kill it with his bare hands?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

same texture as venison, but less gamey.

and no, he used a rifle. Like a Boss.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 28, 2010 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

i haven't had venison in years, that & bison are really underrated

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Damnit I knew I should have waited for fourth season

3rd season was Elkless

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 28, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

speaking of elk

have you heard that they are planning to re-populate Carter and a couple other counties around your old stomping grounds with elk?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Nov 28, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

no i did not, you'd think my family would have told me

people always get a laugh when i tell them that i’m from a country named after me

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

i've heard different numbers

around 100-200. I give them about 2 years to be completely eradicated by poachers.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Nov 28, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

two years? heck they'll be lucky to last six months

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

haha yep

and the seahawks lost…. and tomorrow’s monday night game is – lol cardinals vs. 49ers (biggest Monday night joke in a while I’d say)

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

#stllambs

lol rams

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Nov 28, 2010 7:39 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

at the risk of sounding like your coworkers

the rams are 5-6. it’s a hell of a lot better than 1-15. rams fans have a right to be excited.

follow me on twitter @nickg105

by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 28, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

for a while I thought I might be an emma watson fanboy, then I realized I was just a hermione fanboy

I would say that I don’t know whether that’s better or worse, except I do know, and it’s much better.

by DanUpBaby on Nov 29, 2010 2:08 AM EST up reply actions  

nah, books six and seven are in direct conflict with my otp

I’ll see this one, though, because I’m told they fixed a lot of the problems with deathly-hallows-the-book. just in muggle clothes.

by DanUpBaby on Nov 29, 2010 2:11 AM EST up reply actions  

otp?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 2:21 AM EST up reply actions  

DanUp's a Harry+Hermione kinda guy

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 2:30 AM EST up reply actions  

well in the movies

ron and hermoine came out really awkward and doesn’t seem to fit… whereas there seems to be sexual tension between harry and hermoine

with ron? nothing….

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 2:34 AM EST up reply actions  

correct.

vep’s lack of innate acronym understanding makes me wonder about his stathead credentials

by DanUpBaby on Nov 29, 2010 2:36 AM EST up reply actions  

So are you also a Bella + Jacob kind of guy?

Taylor Swift or Gaga

Tell me: Do you prefer pads or tampons?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 2:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Gaga's actually a legitimate musician though

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 2:47 AM EST up reply actions  

She plays the piano VERY well

She can’t be accused of lip syncing

She sings well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0bo9gck3cg#t=03m45s

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 2:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Huh, what do you know

I’ll admit I have avoided listening to her songs at all costs, so I just assumed…

by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 2:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Cover of Stand By Me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITYMX4x_MCY#t=01m15s

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 2:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Basically I'm saying is that while her pop stuff sucks balls

She’s a real musician

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 2:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Because she probably has a different definition of good music

Here’s her when she was still in college. I think this is actually my favorite Gaga clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_hHc7TZjyY

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 3:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Is it wrong that I lost a little respect for you

For automatically assuming how you feel about a certain artist without exploring how musically talented they actually are?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 3:03 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

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Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 3:03 AM EST up reply actions  

alright...

but if they don’t put out good music (regardless of what she thinks is good or bad), then i will not even try to explore if she is a good musician (which i’m still having trouble calling her)

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 3:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Whoa

Seems like there could be a good story here.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 3:03 AM EST up reply actions  

they're both trained musicians, compared to the average pop star

gaga might have more critical street cred but I find her music and her whole act really wearying and nihilistic.

I don’t think I’ve ever heard a taylor swift song all the way through but if I’m consuming lightweight pop music I’d rather have bubbly earnestness than lady gaga’s schtick.

by DanUpBaby on Nov 29, 2010 2:51 AM EST up reply actions  

i've literally had to listen to over 100 taylor swift songs

to the end…. (my friend is a taylor swift fan if you missed a different thread…)

i envy you right now…

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 2:53 AM EST up reply actions  

speaking of gaga..

i recently read the worst album review ever… its of kesha’s new album… here

Her total commitment to the deliberately stupid script “Animal” provides (one that she and her mother, who co-wrote several songs, helped devise) makes it work.

so basically she deserves praise because she purposefully had stupid lyrics…

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 2:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Well you're lack of a costume to a Harry Potter movie

makes me wonder about your mid 20’s guy who likes a children’s book credentials.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 2:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Me?

Also, it’s not like the books are particularly hard to get through.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 2:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I was 13 when goblet of fire came out

I tried to pace myself but ended up staying up all night to finish it.

by DanUpBaby on Nov 29, 2010 2:48 AM EST up reply actions  

pretty much the same

except i was 10 and it took me longer…

but on the later books, it took me hours….

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 2:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Same here

Goblet of Fire was badass

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 2:54 AM EST up reply actions  

3-4-5 is the peak

Azkaban is a better book, construction-wise, but I like so much about Goblet of Fire, as ridiculously overstuffed as it is. I couldn’t pick one.

by DanUpBaby on Nov 29, 2010 3:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Cedric Diggory is literally the only redeeming thing the House of Hufflepuff has ever done

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 3:02 AM EST up reply actions  

all this discussion, yet my "holyfield harpies" shout out gets nothing upthread.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Nov 29, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I noted it

but the first three responses had something to do with women’s professional sports, and I deemed them unworthy of your all-caps.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 29, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

wait what?

i know one of the hottest my favorite actresses milas kunis was just in a “lesbian” movie – and no it was not a dream

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 2:27 AM EST up reply actions  

oh wow i totally forgot about another one

After Sex which is not very good, but her whole part in the movie is here (NSFW i’m pretty sure) and i haven’t seen the newer movie black swan which needless to say… i’m dying to see

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 2:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah I saw this

Zoe Saldana + Mila Kunis = yummy yummy yummy

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 2:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I find Zoe more physically attractive than Natalie

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 2:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, that move at the end does, indeed, work on the ladies

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 2:37 AM EST up reply actions  

You should probably watch "Black Swan"

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 2:31 AM EST up reply actions  

that's what i was talking about

i want to see it so bad you don’t even know… on the plus side, i heard the movie was good too

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 2:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I usually like Aranofsky movies, so I'm hopeful

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 2:34 AM EST up reply actions  

recarooneydooney

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

give me something to do for 2 hours VEB before The Walking Dead comes on

i’m hella bored out of my mind

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 7:52 PM EST reply actions  

no, not feeling the gif's

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Here

http://www.officegamespot.com/gunblood.htm

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 28, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

i keep dying!

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

you have to push your mouse up as if you are drawing.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 28, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

i know, i still keep getting killed, guess i'm not fast enough

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

i didn't make it passed the 3rd dude, i quit to watch chargers v colts

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Woot.

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Nov 28, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

did leslie nielsen really die or is this a fake twitter death?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 9:01 PM EST reply actions  

Alive?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 28, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

scratch that

dead.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 28, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

surely you jest.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

No, and don't call me Shirley.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 28, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Ahhhh I just watched that movie for the first time last night

I feel as if somehow this is my fault

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 28, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

i hope you're happy with yourself young man

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

damn.

this is one of those celebrity deaths that for some reason kind of stings more than you expect it to. I’ve loved his movies since I was little…

Fire John Mozeliak

by purple_haze on Nov 28, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I loved Police Squad more than any other single piece of work

but they were all awesome in their way

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 29, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

i may post a fanshot

watch out world

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 10:33 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Wouldn't you get more views by just posting it here, rather than as a fanshot?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 28, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

because it wouldn't be tagged

duh
it’s like you don’t know me anymore

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, i guess you want it even easier

link

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm pretty sure tylenol is at least 15% magic

take 4 of them bitches and you feel like a new man

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 28, 2010 10:39 PM EST reply actions  

in bed.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

shirley you mean tylenol with codeine right?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 28, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

that's not what i meant

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 28, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

just regular old tylenol? really?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 29, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't call me Shirley

RIP

I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson

by Solanus on Nov 28, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

RIP indeed

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 29, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Sherrill was fine against lefties this year...

… he had wicked splits, and Torre pitched him like an 8th-inning face-everybody shut-down set-up man like he was in 2009. If he was a LOOGY for the Cards he’d probably be fine. and cheap.

by kindred on Nov 28, 2010 10:58 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

i saw him pitch about 5 times & every time he shut the lefty's down

but the righty’s teed off on him, his delivery looked different than when he was in BMore. maybe that was his problem

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 29, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

actually, as a counter-charge, the last panel shows something that irritates me.

“Grande” means “large.” It does not mean medium. Starbucks sizes are peculiar. “Tall” means “small”; “grande (large)” means “medium.” “Venti (twenty – as in 20 oz.)” Means large. That makes no sense.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Nov 29, 2010 2:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Oh hey did we get transported back to 2001 or something

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 2:22 AM EST up reply actions  

They used to have three sizes:

Short , Tall, Grande. Fatty-fat Americans kept requesting a larger size. So, rather than move the size names, they created Venti for the 20 oz cup.

by spants on Nov 29, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Peyton Manning is Albert Pujols?

they haven’t said it, but the metaphor is there

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

"you can't ask a man to be perfect all the time"

somewhere, peyton’s going all hulk MUST BE PERFECT PEYTON SMASH

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 28, 2010 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Sigh, Jim Caldwell is not a good coach :P

Bring back Dungy

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Nov 28, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

he kind of is, but his wide receivers didn't throw all those INT's

even if they do drop way too many balls

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 29, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

De-fault

The two sweetest words in the English language

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

i've enjoyed some simpsons this year

i still find myself rolling eyes at some gags, which never happened during the glory years, but of course that’s an impossibly high standard to hold to show to.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Nov 29, 2010 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

i can't shake this feeling of happiness, i don't know what to do

is this how normal people feel all the time?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 29, 2010 2:18 AM EST reply actions  

I think you might just be sober

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 2:22 AM EST up reply actions  

shhhh, don't tell anyone, but i've been sober for months

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 29, 2010 2:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know who you are anymore.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 29, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

this is what happens when you run out of $$$$

no booze, no bacons & no brownies

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 29, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd have sent you some bourbon.....

I’ve got half a bottle that hasn’t been touched in months. It’s aged.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 29, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

sounds delicious

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 30, 2010 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

No, most people feel like crap the majority of the time

Your just happy because your situation right now is so much better compared to where it was. Don’t worry, it’ll pass.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 29, 2010 2:27 AM EST up reply actions  

son of a bitch

i have to wake up in four hours for school….

the school may or may not have my full attention during my classes tomorrow

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 2:58 AM EST reply actions  

I have class at 4:00pm

Which is not as cool as one might think

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 29, 2010 2:59 AM EST up reply actions  

definitely better than having to wake up at 6:00 am....

anything that involves me sleeping in right now is a huge win (i’d say 9:00 or later…)

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 29, 2010 3:00 AM EST up reply actions  

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