Black Friday Notes: It's better when there are good deals
by DanUpBaby on Nov 26, 2010 6:00 AM EST
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PrintIf you were awake while I was writing this you could get yourself a $50 laptop or a TV so thin it's invisible for $99, limit one per person, limit three per store. The Cardinals have no such luxury. Their doorbuster: Left-handed reliever Raul Valdes, who is only interesting compared to other left-handed relief pitchers, and only cheap compared to other Cuban defectors. He's a Black Sunday deal—where you go to Best Buy and there's still masking tape on the floor but the only TV still on sale is a 33" 1080g set manufactured in Myanmar.
He's probably not better than Trever Miller or Dennys Reyes, either. But he had a nice year as a longish-reliever for the Mets—after being out of organized baseball for two years, no less—and the strikeouts make him more interesting than the average potential-LOOGY fodder. (Small-sample-size half-empty: Lefties hit .330. Small-sample-size half-full: Lefties struck out 27 times against just three walks.)
Meanwhile, the first big free agent of the season is off the board—Victor Martinez, to the Tigers for four years, $50 million. That sounds about right to me, or just-about-right; Martinez is a bad bet to age well, but he's not a terrible bet to age well relative to other catchers, and he's had six excellent seasons out of seven. Considering the deal Jason Bay got last season—he's basically Victor Martinez, only a terrible defensive outfielder instead of a terrible defensive catcher—Martinez was a bargain.
Not quite Black Friday material—they're paying retail, maybe retail with a coupon—but still a solid move. It also means the Red Sox are about to overpay somebody for a catcher! I say Mozeliak leads with Bryan Anderson for Jed Lowrie, then offers to figure out what Matt Pagnozzi's doing right now if the Sox play hard-to-get.
Meanwhile, Kaz Matsui signed with the Rakuten Golden Eagles, just in time to serve as a cautionary tale for whichever team won the rights to Tsuyoshi Nishioka, set to be announced this very afternoon. The official danup position on Nishioka is already well-established—I think it would be cool, and I guess he'd be better than Skip Schumaker or Miguel Tejada—but keep in mind that teams are bidding for a career year in which he hit .346/.423/.482.
Matsui, 28 at the time, hit .332/.389/.617 and then .305/.365/.549 in back-to-back seasons before joining the Mets, with 36 and 33 home runs. Then he had that one nice season with Colorado and got the Houston Astros to do something they would later forget, for a career mark of .267/.321/.380 that actually understates just how much he struggled in the states.
Of course, whoever signs Nishioka would probably not be especially disappointed to see him put up Matsui's first season with the Mets—.272/.331/.396—over the course of his contract, depending on how his defense plays. Okay, okay, he'd basically be Skip Schumaker at that point, only we wouldn't know whether his defense was terrible yet. I said I thought it would be cool, not that it would be a great idea.
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As someone who just waited 9 hours for a cheaps black friday deal
by CodyG on Nov 26, 2010 6:42 AM EST via mobile reply actions
What did you get?
And WTH didn’t your Walmart start Black Friday at 12:01 this year like the one’s up here did?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
An ipod touch on the cheap
for some reason we have a sale where stuff begins at 12am and another sale that starts at 5am. I had to sit in line watching people go crazy over 3$ pajamas and 10$ off toy deals. Being first in line was my only accomplishment.
by CodyG on Nov 26, 2010 7:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
As someone who worked it for 5 consecutive years
I make it a point to not do bloody anything on this day. Lucky if I even leave the house. My thoughts to all of you sitting in the cold, waiting in lines, and dealing with jerks. And if you can, be nice to the person who’s ringing up your things – they’ve already seen 500 people today. =)
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
Black Friday Deals
are usually not the good stuff and that is exactly what this off-season reminds me of. There is so much talk about making upgrades at 2B and SS and even 3B but there is just nothing out there that would be much of an upgrade. Apparently the Cards are in a position whereby they have little to trade that other teams want and there is no good fit in the free agents. Even if there was a free agent fit I suspect that the money would not be there to make the signing.
I went to Best Buy to pick up some CDs.
A friend I went to high school with works there. He’s a really nice guy. So, we were chatting and he told me how he can’t wait until Black Friday, how he lives for Black Friday, and that he was scheduled to work from 4:00 a.m. until 4:00 p.m. I was dumbfounded. I kept saying, “You can’t be serious.” In response, he explained that he liked helping people pick out gifts and that the store was so busy it was the day of work each year that went by the fastest because the store is so busy.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I share your friend's opinions of today.
It always was the fastest day of the year, to the point that I would stick around after my shift because it was fun/crazy.
By Sunday, however, the holiday rush routine got old and the rest was a more hectic version of the normal grind.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
he lives for Black Friday
this makes me sad for your friend
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 26, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Sounds like that guy
from Opus Dei or whatever it was called in The DaVinci Code where he was flogging himself.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Roster Matrix
There’s a nice roster matrix in the Hotstove Thread (thanks FreeRedbird ). I have a couple questions.
Seems like a little creative work with Carp next year and Lohse’s contract falling off in 2012, they can basically afford Pujols without much pain on the rest of the roster. And assuming Shelby Miller comes on in 2013 to replace Lohse. Is that a fair assumption.
Cards seem to have quite a bit of room to add a one/two year impact bat. WM’s twin suggests Berkman in Left, Holliday in right — even at 2/16, seems like a good idea for next two years. I’d be much happier to live with Freese/Schu/Ryan if we had Berkman. Craig becomes the spot starter for tough lefthanders.
What does Yadi get on his renewal?
If this team is going to contend, we need a closer. Who is out there to fill that gap.?
Just win
fuentes at 2/10 w/ incentives?
infield wise it seems our best is to upgrade with hall, hardy, tejada, etc as
second line across the board back-ups
otoh, no point in keeping tg, though, if he isn’t our utility guy
just settle apu’s deal and then sort through the leftovers
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
I would not consider Tejada any sort of an upgrade.
Tejada will be 37 years-old for the 2011 season. Here are his walk rate for ’08, ’09, and ’10, respectively: 3.6%, 2.8%, and 4.4%. Here are his OBP for each of the last three seasons: .314, .340, and .312. (The odds of duplicating a season with a sub-5% walk rate and OBP over .320 are miniscule.) He had a .306 wOBA last year, a BABIP-inflated wOBA in ’09 of .340, a wOBA of .313 in ’08. He is also widely described as having the defensive range of a dead fish.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I really hope we don't sign Tejada....
Hopefully our “interest” in Tejada is just a means to improve negotiations with Uribe, who I’d still like on a two year deal to upgrade and replace Skip.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 26, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
What concerns me about the tone of the MIF upgrade talking points delivered by Mo & Co.
is that they are targeting Brendan Ryan. I would not mind Uribe on a two-year deal to replace Skip, but I don’t believe that, if we sign Uribe, he will replace Skip. I believe he will replace Ryan. And maybe that is okay. Maybe, despite his somewhat thickly physical appearance, Uribe is an above-average defensive shortstop and an above-average offensive shortstop, which would make signing him a win-win. What is certain, though, is that I would much rather have the 31 year-old than the 37 year-old.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Skip stays in the lineup to start the season.
Unless something really drastic happens. He has no trade value, being the worst 2B in the majors last year. So he is either our problem or our solution.
The GM has a vested interest in him, because of the contract he gave out. The manager has a vested interest in him because of the position switch he called for, and because Skip is one of his “core players.”
Ryan has none of that going for him. And, he sucks at hitting, which is easier to quantify than sucking at fielding.
Play ball!
by IL and StL Fan on Nov 26, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
the solution to skip is a dfa
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
signing Tejada would ruin the offseason
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
but do you think it is possible that jmo will be able to go into st with
ryan
skip
tg
freese
as the infield?
they wil pick up someone
only hope is they wait so long they would actually rather keep who we have
skip ain’t going anywhere, including the kennedy route
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
anyone but tejada
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
ok, i'll let jmo know
but he may have too much veteraniness for tlr to pass up
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
you're probably right
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 28, 2010 1:46 AM EST up reply actions
no thanks to fuentes or tejada
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be okay with Fuentes
on the cheap
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
mattyfrommo likes his loogys like he likes his women
cheap & able to preform quickly & often
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I just want to be clear.
We are paying Lohse over $12MM in both 2011 and 2012. We will be Lohse-less in 2013.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
At least Nishioka had a decent walk rate in that career year
I’m trying to keep the excitement alive here, people! I know we won’t end up signing him, and that it probably wouldn’t be prudent for us to sign him anyway. But it’s still fun to imagine the possibilities.
At this point I don’t have many off-season priorities left. Sign Albert. Don’t sign Miguel Tejada. Please please end up with something other than Skip as our primary second baseman. It would be cool to see a creative move like Holliday to right field and Berkman or Cust or somebody weird like that in left, but that might be under the Nishioka column, entitled (obviously) “won’t and probably shouldn’t happen”.
When even my post-season wishlist is this boring, I need to escape into illusions like signing exotic Japanese players.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
did the luddite get a contract offer?
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Also, Szyzyzymborschtsky's ZiPS projections are rolling out currently
Find them at Baseball Think Factory. Dunno when the Cardinals projection will be released, but man it will be nice to have something to look at projection-wise other than the tantalizingly optimistic Bill James. Self-deception is fun and all, but it can also be dangerous.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Bill James does not believe in this conventional wisdom that his projections system is overly optimistic,
according to this wonderful little Q&A with CBS:
If someone has studied the data and can demonstrate that our projections are over-optimistic, of course we’d look at it. If someone speculates that this is true, I’m not really too interested.
Intuitively, I doubt that that is true. Our projection for Jason Heyward last year was extremely accurate — a few points high on batting average, but an extremely good projection. For Buster Posey, we projected .270 with 11 homers, 54 RBI. He actually hit .305 with 18 homers, 67 RBI. We had projected Jose Tabata at .273. He hit .299. We had projected Tyler Colvin for 4 homers, 17 RBI; he had 20 homers and drove in 56. We had projected Michael Stanton for .228 with 9 homers, 22 RBI; he hit .259 with 22 homers and 59 RBI.
As part of the process of producing the Handbook, we look at every projection that we made the previous year, and compare it to what the player actually did. I study those charts every year, looking for any systematic problems. I would be surprised if anyone else actually looks at them as closely as I do after the fact, comparing what the hitters actually did to what we had projected for them, and I would be surprised if we were systematically optimistic on young hitters.
Other than playing time.
We do systematically use high-end projections on playing time for young players, but that’s a choice, and I think it is the only reasonable choice, honestly. If a player MIGHT bat 300 times, we project that he will bat 300 times; if he might bat 500 times, we project that he will bat 500 times. For this reason: that what the reader wants to know is, if this player plays, what kind of player will he be?
We don’t have any way of knowing, in October, 2010, how much playing time Domonic Brown will get in 2011. Nobody does, and everybody with any sense knows that. Therefore, trying to guess how much playing time he WILL get is a fool’s errand. The question that you SHOULD ask yourself is, “If he does get playing time, how will he play?” If he doesn’t get playing time, there’s nothing we can do about it.
The whole Q&A is really worth a read, as it is interesting and covers a wide range of topics for its length.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
It really bothers me that his first line of defense in anecdotal.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
by azruavatar on Nov 26, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This thread has some data
http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/bill_james_speaks/
I’m sure there are others out there too…
by stevesommer05 on Nov 26, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
I just quickly perused the comments.
Shouldn’t folks factor in the projected PA totals for the Bill James system, as well? I’m not even sure how I would do this.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
depends on the goal of the projection I'd say
If the focus if fantasy, then yeah clearly playing time matters. If the focus is determining a player’s true talent, then who cares about playing time. When I did the 5 year projections for BtB I got around this by assuming the projections were “if this player starts”. In that context all that matters is projecting rate stats…. dunno I’m just rambling at this point
by stevesommer05 on Nov 26, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with this.
It a projection system is attempting to project true talent, comparing it to what a player actually did in even 150 PAs seems unfair to the projection system to me.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
That is a problem,
but I believe it is as much a problem of the format (a short Q&A) as the defense. Now, that being said, Bill James Online should do a comprehensive study on this, so that he can link to it in such interviews, which are presumably done via email.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
It would help if Bill James actually read other people's work now and then
by vivaelpujols on Nov 26, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not imagining that somebody did a comparative analysis
And found CHONE to be the best projection, am I?bill james was much worse than most.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Nov 26, 2010 4:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
but Bill James is not a Colby Rasmus fan in the least.
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Nov 26, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
thats a pretty healthy drop from the heights of this season
I was sort of hoping Colby was trending up, not down. I guess his batted ball profile this year was a bit uncharacteristic.
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Nov 26, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
the projection has a ~50 pt drop in BABIP… valid? dunno, but that more than explains the drop in wOBA.
by stevesommer05 on Nov 26, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
right
that’s what I was gonna hit on. I think you could question that based on your opinion of his raw strength but the BABIP looks lucky from last year.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
reality is probably somewhere in between.. but closer to the projection I'd say.
by stevesommer05 on Nov 26, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if the aging curve is agressive enough for someone his age
Will be interesting to see it compared to ZiPS or CHONE.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
this was my main thing
the aging curve should cancel out a bit more of the babip difference. But, as I said, Bill James isn’t a fan of Colby.
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Nov 26, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
"Bill James isn't a fan of Colby."
In my head, this conjures up some intern bringing a computer printout on 1980’s computer paper (for some reason) to Bill James with Colby Rasmus’s projection on it, James reading it, getting angry, crumpling it up and throwing it at the intern before yelling, “How many times must I tell you! I am NOT a fan of Colby Rasmus! Now lower his projection 13.7% to reflect my disdain!”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 26, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
in your version of Bill James
does he work in a vast factory, where an endless array of smokestacks billow thick pollutants and hundreds of thousands of gears, levers and pulleys grind away to pump out projections. On the outside, “Bill James Industries” is printed in thick black lettering along the top of one brick wall, barely readable through the smog.
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Nov 26, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Bill James steampunk?
I’ll rec it.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 26, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yes.
And he has one of the 1940’s offices that is in the middle of the floor with windows all around, so that he can watch over his underlings.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i am tempted to make a Bill James fanfiction
this is truly the lowest point in my entire life.
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Nov 26, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
what, are you going to ship anybody?
just leave out the vampires and you’ll still be able to show your face in public
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
no, nothing like that
i was just hoping to make an alternate universe that was like some kind of 1930s-40s world with modern baseball dynamics.
Fire John Mozeliak
you should probably write it before DanUp does
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Don't forget the zombies
1940’s-style zombies playing baseball would be….well, maybe not interesting, but different, at least.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 26, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
He's somewhat past the most aggressive part
still on the upswing, but past the inflection point (math-ese for a Friday morning).
That said, his statcorner wOBAr was 0.355 (in theory taking back some of the BABIP luck) so starting from there and aging that I’d say maybe ~0.360 or so…
by stevesommer05 on Nov 26, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's fair.
Going from a .282 to a .354 BABIP is quite a jump. Falling back down to .306 might be a bit much, but I find it reasonable to expect a 2011 BABIP closer to .306 than .354.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
His HR/FB ratio is probably gonna drop from 14.8 % also
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Nov 26, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Which would likely mean more batted ball outs.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I don't think so
HR/FB is much more a skill for hitters than pitchers – 14.8% is actually on the low side for a player with Rasmus’ raw power.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 26, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
if you say his name, doesn't he appear
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 26, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know if this iteration of his name,
is close enough to set off the google alarms.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i hear he has tripwires everywhere
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
BOOSH!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Hm
I was being kind of over-simplistic for fun, hope I didn’t come off too snarky.
Anyway, isn’t it just better to have more projections no matter what? Shouldn’t we feel like James’ projections alone are insufficient? Thats what I meant.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Victor Martinez
Morosi tweets that, on a conference call today, Dave Dombrowki said that he estimates Martinez will catch about 60 games, DH the rest, and that Avila will remain the “no. 1 catcher.” $12.5MM per year for a part-time catching, full-time DH seems high to me.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
A simple wOBA marcel has him at .353 wOBA next year
Apply some aging and say we call it .345. You have to give him some kind of a bump when he’s not catching as studies have shown (I think it was tango) that catchers hit better when they aren’t catchers.
Offense as catcher (2/5 of 600PAs) = 3 runs
Offense as DH (3/5 of 600PAs) = 7 runs
Positional adjustment = [4 runs]
Replacement level = 23 runs
Defense = [1-3 runs]
2.0-2.5 WAR
It’s a bit of an overpay but I’m making a lot of assumptions and I think there’s an argument that it’s near market value.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
It's very comparable to the Ortiz contract, which paid Ortiz to be only a DH.
I guess I look at Thome (.437 wOBA for $1.5MM), Vlad (.360 wOBA for $5.5MM), or Matsui (.356 wOBA for $6MM), and think that giving someone a 4-year contract to primarily be your DH at an annual salary of $12.5MM doesn’t make much sense. That being said, I imagine that Thome and Vlad are due for raises, but that doesn’t mean that players similar to them aren’t available. Heck, give Jermaine Dye a call, or Jack Cust. There are skilled offensive players who cannot really play the field available for a lesser contract and roughly comparable production. That was my impression.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
not to mention positional scarcity, and the flexibility of someone
who can bring an above average bat to three positions (C, 1B, DH)
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
DH doesn't count as a position
because you get zero fielding runs from it…. anybody can play DH so its not a skill to be able to play it
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 26, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
it is a skill to hit better than the league average DH and VMart can do that
if Avila develops into an elite hitting catcher Martinez can still be in the lineup every day. Skip or Boog could both technically DH but not in a way that would be helpful to a team
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
but you're only looking at year 1
considering the fact that he’ll age and, likely, play even fewer games at C in subsequent years, it seems to be a much greater overpay after year 1.
Seems like having the ability...
to run out their best offensive lineup (ie with Martinez catching) in high leverage games against division foes and rest him against really crappy teams should be factored in to the value calculation.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
I don't think that the flexibility they have gained with Martinez
is necessarily worth $6MM to $10MM, which is what they would save signing a DH-only player. One aspect of this is that most scouts and metrics agree that Martinez is a very poor defensive catcher.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
they don't like his arm, but he isn't Mike Piazza
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Whoa
Yankees fans (or at least Pinstripe Alley commenters) aren’t… you know… smart.
http://www.pinstripealley.com/2010/11/12/1811169/my-list-of-uswless-stats-uzr-is-on-top
Fire John Mozeliak
Here's just a great quote
Any statistical measure which says that Tex, Cano and Jeter are all below par defenders is simply useless and needs to be both ignored and banned from discussion amoung serious baseball fans
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Nov 26, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Sounds like they're debating it out...
amongst themselves. No shame in that. It took me awhile to get over the idea that RBIs were really unimportant after I spent the first 15 years of my life memorizing thousands of basball cards.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
okay, less advanced than almost all SBN baseball sites then
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Nov 26, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Have you been to BCB?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
yes
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
but mainly the cubs.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
BCB has a sabermetrician on the payroll...
I think his name is Sean something…
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
Ya, I think he startted posting last year,
don’t know if he’s gained much traction.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Banning from discussion a contrarian view or system
is something that should never happen amongst any group of people that is serious about any subject.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Here's another useless stat for them: World Series Championships
Any statistical measure which says that Tex, Cano, and Jeter weren’t world champions last year needs to be both ignored and banned from discussion amoung [sic] serious baseball fans.
I mean, there have been over 100 World Series, but according to the “stats” the greatest team of all time has only won 25% of them? GET OUTTA HERE!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
hopefully they are right
and those stats are ignored while working out Jeter’s contract.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Any word on what flavor
the koolaid is over there? Must be mighty tasty for anyone to agree with that nonsense.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
heh
All those stupid new stats suck balls.
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by Gangsta Yanksta on Nov 13, 2010 12:40 AM CST reply actions
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by prophetjohn on Nov 26, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
THE NEW YORK MEDIA
thinks newfangled statistics sucks balls.
by mattyp on Nov 26, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Tragically, he's also a moron.
http://www.pinstripealley.com/2010/11/12/1811169/my-list-of-uswless-stats-uzr-is-on-top#52061557
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
I hate to harp on this point but...
Cause a stat can’t tell you how an allstar west coast warm weather player can handle the pressure of New York and cold Octobers.
I don’ think this guy understands how Park Factor works either.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
WHAT THE FUCK
where is your monkey avatar. I didn’t know who was talking.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
It wasn't a monkey...
it was God… well at least the South Park version of it. I changed it last month. Decided it was time.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
CONFUSION
Must memorize new avatar. [Processing] [find ‘ducttape pointer’] [reassociate ‘pointy hat with flag on top’ image] [deactivate KILL mode]
So be it.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
The flag was just a good angle
by the person taking the picture… not part of the hat.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
You're slacking.....
he even apologized to you and everything.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I've been busy lately.
Otherwise i would have freaked out then too.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
New stat:
Temperature performance. Get out the Farmer’s Almanacs and let’s see how these fellows can play in different temperatures and wind chills!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
This is a fanbase that really hasn't needed to go through the exercise of
getting the most value out of a given payroll. That they’re collectively a bit behind the curve on statistical analysis isn’t too much of a surprise.
Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.
by The Continental on Nov 26, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
www.wikipedia.org/confirmation_bias
Enjoy that $60M Derek Jeter contract, morans.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
by hazel on Nov 26, 2010 1:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
60 million
Hah, Jeter laughs in the face of that.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 26, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Saw it reported that the Twins won the Nishioka bidding.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 26, 2010 11:47 AM EST reply actions
$5.3MM??
We couldn’t beat that?
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Nov 26, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
We're saving that money to pay Jason Bartlett's salary.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
weep.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 26, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
why do we want to?
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by prophetjohn on Nov 26, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
a million here, a million there, pretty soon you have some real money...
and can then give it to Pujols.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 26, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
did you read that Kaz Matsui had 33+ home runs in Japan
even if he was good to very good in 07-08 he was a vast overpay
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
One example doesn't mean anything
Ichiro Susuki became one of the best hitters in the league when he switched.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 26, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
One example doesn't mean anything
Tsuyoshi Shinjo, So Taguchi, Tadahito Iguchi, Norihiro Nakamura, and Akinori Iwamura never slugged .450 in a season. So Hideki, Ichiro, Fukudome, and Johjima had decent to great MLB numbers but none of those guys are MI
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
So 5 players slugged as much as in Japan, and 4 hit for as much or more
That seems to be the definition of “craphshoot”, doesn’t it?
Anyway, it’s been systematically studied and Japan is supposed to be in between AA and AAA in terms of difficulty. So you’d adjust like you would minor league stats – which still have whatever his name is looking good.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 27, 2010 2:13 AM EST up reply actions
right but since I don't remember any SS prospects
having 33+ home run seasons in AA/AAA only to top out at 8 in the majors I would be mighty suspicious of their power numbers Ichiro had a 25HR season Hideki Matsui had three 40+ HR Seasons and was coming off of a 50HR season when he came here and hit 16 in 120 more ABs. I am not saying the japanese numbers are worthless, I just don’t see them as predictive.
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Well I just flat out disagree
Would you say that AAA numbers aren’t predictive (after being adjusted down)?
by vivaelpujols on Nov 27, 2010 2:54 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe I phrased that wrong
since there have been only 42 Japanese players who have first played in Japan, as opposed to the thousands of players who have played in AA/AAA on their way to MLB I am suspicious of a claim that we can use Japanese League numbers to predict MLB numbers
I also think that the MiLB numbers are not as predictive as we would like to think, so players like Matt Holliday never hit well in the high minors, others like Brandon Wood, or Chris Iannetta destroy MiLB pitching but seem to struggle against MLB staffs
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
right but since I don’t remember any SS prospects having 33+ home run seasons in AA/AAA only to top out at 8 in the majors
Brandon Wood? You don’t remember them but that really isn’t evidence that they don’t exist.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
right but Wood can't hit anything it isn't a power outage it
is the inability to hit MLB pitchers. Kaz Matsui hit 290+ for two seasons in two of the most home run friendly environments in ML with almost no power. I am not saying the numbers are useless I am saying that I am skeptical of their predictive ability
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
sure the numbers are predictive
i just don’t think we have a very good handle on how to interpret them. or rather, we just don’t know what they’re indicative of considering that these players keep pulling ridiculous cash to come play in the states and you’ve got 20 fukudomes and kaz matsuis to every ichiro
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by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
precisely I see it as a bad gamble when the same money
could be spent on developing Latin talent with a much higher return.
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
yeah
i’d be happy to learn that mo’ didn’t even bid on whatever the latest big japanese name is who’s gonna come over here and be 1-2 WAR before being released by 3 or 4 teams
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by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously since 04
the Dominican Republic has produced Hanley Ramirez, Jose Reyes, Starlin Castro, Robinson Cano, Jose Bautista, Ubaldo Jimenez, Francisco Liriano, Fausto Carmona, Neftali Feliz, and Johnny Cueto to name a few and that is one tiny half of an Island and all of there signing bonuses don’t add up to what the posting fee on Hu Darvish would be
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
and some dude named Jose Alberto
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Nov 27, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
he was in 01
but yeah you get the point teams like the Rockies have made themselves contenders and vastly strengthened their farm by latin investment.
Ubaldo, Chachin, Herrera, Corpas, Esmil Rodgers and Franklin Morales all came up through their system and obviously some dude they got in trade is Latin as well
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
true but he was born there and learned his
work ethic there. It really is amazing how much talent comes from a place with half the population of Los Angeles
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Indeed.
I guess I just felt the distinction was important because he wasn’t scouted there. The money to scout him was domestic.
or to not scout him
in the case of the team playing in the same town he went to high school/junior college
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
i heard he even roomed with someone employed by the royals
still nothin’.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
well apparently balding guys
with the baseball body equivalent of Lebron James who show up and obliterate first local high school pitchers, then JUCO pitchers the same way leave some feeling suspicious
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
my buddy Steve was egg bald at 18
as a junior he had a fro, by late senior year it was gone. He was a great athlete too, but had a hard time getting dates in his early 20’s
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
albert is like an example of confusing old-school with old
there was a whisper somewhere else that his sudden leap into fatherhood also brought up suspicions
which… not to get too political, that’s kind of sad that doing the responsible thing is unusual
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
well their has long been a reason
to be suspicious of people from latin countries using false identities to cash in on the system, I could see how a person looking at a 19 year old Albert Pujols with his life story, build, girlfriend, and accomplishments and be skeptical.
That said I would have sent an few scouts to take a look at any kid at any level tearing the cover off of the ball.
The Braves scout that got them to take Heyward hid in the trees of Heywards OF just so no-one would know how interested he was
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
creeeeeeepyyy
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yeah he had met JHey in middle school
and was really excited about him, his game, his makeup, and his commitment to baseball. But didn’t want word getting out(he also scouted McCann, Chipper, ect) so he literally acted disinterested to throw the other scouts
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
I have often though of Manny Ramirez as the
best RH bat of my lifetime, but Pujols has 120 less 2Bs, 143 less home runs, 600 less RBI, and 400 less BB in 8 less years in MLB amazing
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
we'd still have to pay Nishioka on top of that
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
i'll pass
thank god that ship has sailed (for me anyway)
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 26, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
almost completely convinced hardy will have more value in 2011.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Nov 26, 2010 3:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I highly reccommend this site for book reivews
http://matthilliard.wordpress.com/
Each review is essentially a novella but I think it’s my favorite reviewer I’ve found. The reviews tend toward fantasy/scifi books though I’ve seen other fiction.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
From "Metropolitan":
I don’t read novels. I prefer good literary criticism. That way you get both the novelists’ ideas as well as the critics’ thinking. With fiction I can never forget that none of it really happened, that it’s all just made up by the author.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
...
You’re a snob, a sexist, totally obnoxious, and tiresome. And lately, you’ve gotten just weird. Why should we believe anything you say?
I’m not tiresome.
I actually enjoy Whit Stillman’s films. Barcelona is one of my faves.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 26, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
I read the link name as Mathew Lilliard
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
+1
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 26, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
This is very good.
Also, i really agree with his opinions of orson Scott card. Ender’s Game was a good book but after reading Shadow Puppets second it seems obvious that Card has absolutely no idea what made it good since he failed to replicate any of the successes from his earlier stuff and his only novel that approaches Ender in quality is Speaker for the Dead, a novel that is utterly different in every respect. Shadow Puppets and the others in it’s arc might as well have been ghost-written theyre so pulpy and vague and awful.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
by hazel on Nov 26, 2010 2:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Does anyone have Verizon MiFi?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
parents do
it works ok, really hard to get other computers set up on it imo. just have the one computer that they have, my brother’s and my computer aren’t on it though, can’t figure out how to set it up. basically I’m saying that it’s pretty underwhelming. luckily one of the neighbors out here has an unsecured connection
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
not their Mifi
we do have several locations running completely on a verizon 3g though, by far the best network. My parents have a sprint hot spot with no issues, but only 4 devices can connect to it.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
I do
I have the new FiveSpot modem. I had some issues with connecting at first because I’m an idiot that doesn’t read directions but once I admitted defeat and went to the manual everything went smoothly. It’s nice getting DSL speeds on a cellular network after being with AT&T and being stuck on Edge the last 3 years.
by WizardofOz1982 on Nov 29, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Should have put this in the first
I run it through my normal wireless router most of the time for range but it does work well just as the MiFi hotspot too.
by WizardofOz1982 on Nov 29, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, Thanksgiving time...
sister and stepdad playing 2006 Cardinals Monopoloy… Tony LaRussa is Park Place…
Fire John Mozeliak
that is Monopoly, of course.
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Nov 26, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Aaron Miles?
StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
by StanTheManFan on Nov 26, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
rotowire says the Phillies are interested in Dennys Reyes
which is fine with me, if they can toss us a semi-interesting piece in return.
Fire John Mozeliak
Dennys is a free agent.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
The Diner is a FA.....
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
whaaaat?
can’t believe I didn’t notice this. I guess Dennys Reyes is just barely a blip on my radar screen. Which makes me wonder how big a normal-sized player of his caliber would appear on my radar screen amirite???
Fire John Mozeliak
Restarauteurs in the greater STL area are still weeping.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
He won't know what to do with himself in Philly...
Pork Chop is out, Cheese Steak is in.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
Barely a blip? How is that possible?
Reyes is a known anomaly to the USGS and Old Country Buffett!
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
I have tried everything but can't seem to get it to work
I for some reason can’t pick up PBS on my antenna. Even though I am only a couple miles away from it
new pledge drive consequences?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Get 'er done, Mo!
It also means the Red Sox are about to overpay somebody for a catcher! I say Mozeliak leads with Bryan Anderson for Jed Lowrie
Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Jay/Craig 9, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, M Carpenter 5, Molina 2, T Greene 4, Ryan 6, pitcher
sorry it would have to be scutaro
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
From your posts on Wednesday....
you’d go for a lot of things.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yay that days of Cloud Computing are upon us
we may need to take a few steps encryption-wise before we make the shift completely
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
So what in the name of god happened to James Loney
I remember him being good, and then he got bad. And if he’s non tendered would he be an interesting buy low candidate.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Outfield.
Like every other first baseman in the Cardinals’ organization since 2004.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
duh
third base
its just like a mirror image of 1b anyway…
and its MUCH less catching involved
;-)
by jealousblues on Nov 26, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
He's already a better outfielder than Adam Dunn ever was. lol
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
And MiniDunc
for that matter.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
so i'm at a hotel in champaign
and it has fsn midwest. it’s not the same since it’s not baseball season… i has a sad.
/michigander
Blues hockey rerun perhaps?
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
Head to the Blind Pig...
lots of tasty beers.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Joe Posnanski
on setup men and closers. Here is an interesting snippet:
…The league average of games won with a team going into the ninth with a lead was 95.5%.
Top six winning percentages with leads entering the ninth inning:
1. Tampa Bay .988 (81-1)
2. San Diego .987 (77-1)
3. St. Louis .987 (74-1)
4. Oakland .986 (73-1)
5. Detroit .986 (70-1)
6. Kansas City .981 (53-1)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I was trying to think of the game we lost.
Wasn’t it the collapse against the Rockies?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
what is this "rockies"
I do not acknowledge this reality
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
clearly Tony wouldn't read this article
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Isn't he the founding father of the modern day bullpen?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
That's the rumor.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Then, obviously he would scoff at the idea that his bullpen machinations or the pitcher batting eighth don't win games.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Garland to sign with Dodgers
Good move for them?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Depends.
Here are the career bests from last season: K rate, LOB%, BABIP, & GB rate.
He also had his worst walk rate.
I don’t know the dollars involved, but I don’t know how much I would trust that 3.47 ERA. But, he’s being signed to be a no. 5 starter…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I didnt see the contract details unfortunately
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Apparently,
it is for 1-year with a $5MM base plus incentives with a vesting option on IP. Strikes me as pretty fair, even if he falls back to earth outside of PetCo next year.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Everytime I see a contract like that
It makes me hate the Lohse deal more, and more.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
this is a nice nice deal
that Dodgers rotation is shaping up nicely with Billingsly, Kershaw, Kuroda and Garland. It’s not as good as our rotation but still.
Fire John Mozeliak
He has signed, as of 3:54 CST.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 26, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
is MO even going to try & call Cliff Lee?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
No, he's used up all of his minutes talking to Pujols's agent.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
if month does anything, I would emphasize the "try" part.
If you were his agent, why would you even field mo’s calls? The only two scenarios in which the cards are in the bidding are a) we decided not to sign pujols and all the money we were going to give pujols we’ll give to lee or b). we decided to raise payroll $25m.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Nov 26, 2010 4:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
*mo
"Smart"phones
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Nov 26, 2010 4:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
they really should raise the payroll, whether they go after him or not
if they let the Albert, Lego & the other bigger contracts handcuff them they aren’t being very wise. the last few years should show them what happens when they put all their eggs in one basket.
i think Lee would want his agent to at least talk to the Cards if they called. LR is close to the STL not as close as Dallas but still closer than the other teams reportedly interested in him. now is it likely MO calls? no, but i at least think he should. i mean, youreallydoneverknow
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
So,
since the last few years have shown what happens when a franchise puts all of its eggs in a basket, they should handcuff themselves further by spending over $20MM on a starting pitcher? I’m confused. Wouldn’t that further handcuff them and make fielding a competitive team even more difficult because it would leave less money to fill other roster spots?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i'm not saying they should sign, i'm saying they should just touch base
at least pick up the phone & say “hi, we can’t pay you $20Mil per but we can promise you you’ll win a hell of a lot of games” and see what happens
i would hope they’d at least do the same with Beltre. this is really a bad FA class, there isn’t much out there that the team needs or can afford. lots of older players, lots of OF’s & 1st, Lee & Beltre are the only two i want at this point.
they need raise the payroll no matter what they do so they can have a much better bench & back ups. enough of the AAAA players.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
How about we sign Beltre, and move Freese to 2b?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 26, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
i have no faith in his glass ankles holding up, i doubt he can play 2nd
even though everyone can play 2nd
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Sollution: transplant Shumaker's ankles to Freese.
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
skip schumaker is the ultimate team player
by DanUpBaby on Nov 26, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
TLR would then help Skippy build his statue next to Stan's during the winter
they’d do their own version of the scene from the movie Ghost. Buzz would then write a book about it called 3 Months In Winter, The Story of the Ultimate Team Player & his Grit, Scrappyness, Sacrifice & Sexness and the manager who loved him.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
you are a little too into this visualization
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
but i left out the part where they make snow angels on the infield
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i'm hoping no one is picturing this
but you had to, right? to type this?
how long have you been holding on to this sepia soft-focus scene?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
would you believe it just came to me as i was writing it?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
does tlr still have mcewing's cleats?
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
that might have been one of the things he took home
he boxed up a lot of stuff & took it back with him on his drive west
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Sounds like something out of Gattica
Or a Bizarro World Face Off
Play ball!
by IL and StL Fan on Nov 26, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
more like dumbphones mirite
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
he'll send Frankie down to invite him to a hunting trip
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the entire pen should take him hunting. IZZY & Matheny too
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
did he win millions of dollars?
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
i don't know, but i heard he stayed at a Holliday Inn Express last night
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Are you kidding this is a storybook season
Make it to the national championship. Lose 100-50. And then get it all wiped away by the NCAA. Livin the dream
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Nov 26, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
who are they gonna face in SEC championship game?
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 26, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
South Carolina
That is, if my fantasy doesn’t come true. Auburn took care of ‘Bama yesterday, so now Arkansas has to beat LSU today then the NCAA has to rule Newton ineligible on Monday causing Auburn to vacate and then Arkansas goes to the SEC game.
(never going to happen, NCAA doesn’t work that fast, ever)
Barring that, I have to root for Auburn (yuck!) to win the SEC Championship game to give Arkansas a chance at the Sugar Bowl (assuming they beat LSU which isn’t a sure thing by a long shot).
by ArkansasTravs on Nov 27, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
i know what you mean
root for whoever you have to to make sure your team gets in the best possible situation….
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 27, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah sorry to Oregon.
Alabama should have put up at least 11 points considering the drop and the Ingram fumble. Oregon’s offense is way better than any team Auburn has faced this year.
South Carolina is the SEC East team for the SEC Championship game.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Nov 26, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
god this championship game could suck
Oregon is so overrated… they have destroyed… so many mediocre to terrible teams
Terrible: New Mexico (1-10), Tennessee (2-6 in SEC), Portland State (FCS), Arizona State (2-5 in Pac-10), Washington State (2-9 OVERALL), UCLA (2-6 in Pac-10) – beat those teams by a combined 254 points
Mediocre: USC (7-4), Washington (4-6), Cal (5-6)
Stanford at home is their only legitimate win and they face Arizona at home tonight… i will not be surprised if they win tonight and then lose to Oregon State next week because they have faced ZERO legitimately good road teams… beside USC…
i honestly don’t know what makes their schedule so much better than Boise State and TCUs…
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 26, 2010 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
I wish Boise TCU could go at it in the big game
then the BCS would end
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
That'll never happen...
the pollsters have an in case of emergency break glass set of plans to keep any non Big 6 team out of that game.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
I wouldn't call New Mexico "terrible."
“Abominable,” maybe. Or “atrocious.” “Putrid.” “Hideous.”
Just “terrible” doesn’t do them justice. They lost to New Mexico freakin’ STATE, repeat winners of the “worst team in college football” award.
StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
by StanTheManFan on Nov 26, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
One of the greatest comebacks of all time
To be wiped from the history books in approximately 5 months.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Nov 26, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
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All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
WTF. holliday's and pujols' facebook statuses link to a story about jeter leaving NY, and then say
The Cardinals, out of these four teams, would be his best bet. If Jeter joins forces with Albert Pujols, Matt Holliday, and their dominant rotation, the Cardinals should be able to win the NL Central and make a run in the playoffs behind "The Captain’s" veteran leadership
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
i'd take Jeter at second, it'll never happen
if the Yankees won’t pay him what he wants, i don’t know why he’d think the Cardinals would
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
facebook will be trademarking "face", right?
will they take “your face” from us?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
this is dumb on like 5 levels: jeter would never get the money
He wants in stl. Jeter is not good enough anymore to be a big upgrade for the cards. Also, grabbing the cliche about veteran leadership is gagworthy.
Not because intangibles don’t exist (lest I be criticized), but because they are used too often to cloak ridiculous assertions like this in some impenetrable garb of intangible truthiness.
Also, negative style points for “join forces.” It sounds like they’re going to form voltron.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Nov 26, 2010 9:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
but he's with the Mets....
isn’t he?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
wouldn't Voltron play for the Cardinals?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
it's an AA joke
think on it…..
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
thinking,,,,thinking,,,,thinking,,,,thinking,,,,
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
or just look for it on AA
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 26, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
think of the most awesome recent moment vs the mutts
and the nickname is not far away
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 27, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
just another case of a big name star
using the Cards to bargain
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
yeah its their "fan" pages.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
i just can't see a scenario where Derek Jeter leaves New York
I like him to put up better numbers than last year, but New York is still gonna way overpay for him (and do so knowingly, probably).
Fire John Mozeliak
yeah, I posted "Jeter sucks" on Holliday's facebook post
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
You stay classy.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
classy really doesn't apply to me
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
and also
Jeter does suck (compared to what he gets paid)
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
I'm drinking bourbon
and I hate class systems
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
DEY TUK IR JERBS?!?!?
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
if you're saying I'm from a dysfunctional family
you’d be absolutely correct. but those jobs, I don’t care about
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
Ok I'm confused now
I’m just breaking the wrist and walking away. Breaking the wrist and walking away.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Nov 26, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
anyone watching this arizona-oregon game?
arizona is getting hosed by the refs
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
you can't hit a guy on the head like that
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i agree, but he obviously didn't do it on purpose
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
obviously, but you still can't do that
you all just got a BS pass interference call
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i just really, really, really want this win.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
understandable, but i really want Oregon to play Boise State for the National Championship
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Bad day for you then...
they should just disqualify Auburn now. They will just have to give the hardware back in a year or two.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
no kidding, if not Oregon v Boise State i want TCU v Boise State
i’m for the most entertaining game & whatever game kills the BCS
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Oregon has been looking pretty pedestrian lately...
I bet they will either lose tonight or in the championship game.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
ya their D is getting over exposed & their O is getting predictable
i hate to root for the old ball coach but i really hope somehow his gamecocks upset Auburn next week. the whole newton thing is just so wrong & bad for the sport
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Every once in awhile
I just think “The Cardinals have Albert Pujols. Albert Fucking Pujols.” And somehow, everything seems a little better.
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Nov 26, 2010 9:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
black friday
I waltzed into best buy around 11am and got the last $400 Vaio laptop with 3 gigs of ram. finally got windows 7 instead of vista!
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 9:50 PM EST reply actions
yeah, I kinda find it hard to believe it happened
they were out of the $350 Toshibas, so I figured that was my best and I would just get a wii instead. but I ended up going up to the customer service desk and ask them for the sony one. they told me they had one left, and I had to wait 5 minutes. when I went up, they were about to give me a sony desktop that was nearly half price, and they misunderstood what I asked for. they then told me they were out of the laptops. so I was just standing there, didn’t know what to do (actually contemplated going to wal mart for a second, ewh). anyways, all the sudden the one guy went, “found one!”. it had the geek squad stuff installed on it, and I told them I didn’t want that. so they didn’t charge me the extra $50 for that, and I still had it installed (I think basically most of it is making the machine usable out of the box, even has flash installed). totally made my day
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, I missed the intense crowds and still got the deal
saweeeet
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
my other computer had I/O device errors, my brother told me that the motherboard is probably messed up from overheating
but it still kinda works, so I have 2 laptops now w00t
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
this Oregon game just got a lot more fun
sorry IHB
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i turned it off at the start of the 4th quarter.
trying not to drink tonight, so staying away from the triggers
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I can relate...
I finally instituted a policy of not drinking when I’m angry… that’s the only way I’m still alive after the Illinois – Michigan game this year.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
I hear JHamilton never carries more than $50
on him anymore, so he won’t be tempted to buy drugs. I guess telling himself not to use drugs when he’s (insert appropriate emotion) doesn’t work. ducttape16>JHamilton.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 27, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
Pretty much...
I’m able to control my shit… hence why they say I don’t have a problem… boy do I have them fooled… wait I mean no damnit YES I’M AWESOME!!!
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 27, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Man, I miss that game!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 27, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, that was a good one
also, bard’s tale, zork, ad&d: pool of radiance, etc
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 27, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Get out of my mind!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 27, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
But you didn't mention Necromancer.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 27, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
but now you did
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 27, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
I'm trying to remember the one with lord brittania...
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 27, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
mwahahahaha
http://www.virtualapple.org/oregontraildisk.html
http://www.virtualnes.com/
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 27, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
awh damn, they got rbi baseball
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 27, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
But I thought we all agreed
that RBIs are stupid and pointless…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
dude, you use the z button to swing
I just hit a home run off of nolan ryan. I’m up 4-0 in half an inning after not having played it for 20 years or something
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 27, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
...mwahahaha.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 27, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
holy shit
i can’t wait to find out if this is blocked at work
you may have just killed my productivity
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
mwahaha.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 27, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
Are you talking about the Ultima games? With Lord British?
Because I had #3-7, I believe.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 27, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
yes!
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 27, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
heh
used to have a screen like that on the apple IIe
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 27, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
You? You had an Apple IIe?
I thought you was a young’un.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 27, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
hell no
nearly 35, I’ve said this numerous times lol
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 27, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry, that's still young.
I bought my IIe in 1984, when I was 26. No hard drive, though I bought an external one later (I think it was 128KB) that was literally the size of a breadbox.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 27, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
well then, I shall enjoy my remaining youth, thank you
our uncle gave us the machine when he upgraded
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 27, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
we now take you to the next installment of "prophet john seeks fashion advice from VEB"
pea coats on men?
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
i need a girlfriend
for this, among other, reasons
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 26, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
function over form is my motto
comfort trumps though
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
it is warm and it is comfortable
but part of the function of my clothes is helping me attract women
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 26, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
that's always been a mystery to me
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure
if you’re relying solely on clothes to attract the ladies you are doing something seriously wrong.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
yep
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Clothes can make a huge difference with women.
People who don’t put any thought into their clothes are failing to take advantage of a really easy way to attract the type of women they want and make the type that they are not interested in leave them alone.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
they certainly are easy to distract
think of clothes as being the human equivalent of a peacocks tail, or a deers antlers
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
by TomCat009 on Nov 27, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If you look like a slob,
it gives people license to think that you are one. I’m not exactly a fashionista, but I often get the feeling that (especially being younger and working with older and more distinguished people) I get more respect (and attention from girls) when I’m dressed well.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
First step: smell decent.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 27, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
yep smell decent, and get into some semblance of shape
and remember understated and classic is better than what is hot right now. A peacoat is a good example, so is the full length cashmere
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
some people look for signs of ironing
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 27, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
I knew a girl who was blown away at how shiny a guys shoes
were, she viewed it as a signed that he had it together that he had taken the time to shine them before the date
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
What about the woman who are attracted to men who don't care about their appearance?
Are their any of those?
by vivaelpujols on Nov 27, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
the blind ones,
of course the smell thing will still matter
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Those are called gold diggers.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
they are liars
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 28, 2010 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
that's totally what my post says isn't it
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by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
pea coats are excellent
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Nov 26, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
Um,
yeah for like the last decade.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
this kind of stuff is not obvious to me
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by prophetjohn on Nov 26, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
what's odd, though,
is that i generally think i’m pretty good with fashion, except when it comes to coats or shoes
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by prophetjohn on Nov 26, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, it's not really that radical
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
my concern was whether or not it was considered metro
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by prophetjohn on Nov 26, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
You sound way too up in your head about this shit...
if it’s a coat that keeps you warm and you live somewhere that’s cold wear the damn thing.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
this is probably a good way to look at it
but where i live, it’s cold for like 2 weeks a year
even less reason to be concerned about a coat, i guess
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by prophetjohn on Nov 26, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
From that explanation
I now think less of you as a person…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
i don't even know what you're talking about
either way, i’m most concerned about what you (and other people) think of my fashion than other things
being well dressed goes a long way innit
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by prophetjohn on Nov 26, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
This is fairly true
But I tend to shy away from being over fashionable. Peacoat is in that territory for me
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I really love completely random crap like this
that I run into on here.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
what
you came here to discuss the valdez signing or some such nonsense?
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by prophetjohn on Nov 26, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Nah...
I just like where things move organically. Nite time is always more fun on VEB.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
it's also worth mentioning
that it’s a $150 coat and i got it for $50
speaking of ridiculous deals, i got my (upgraded) rental car for $5 (! (not a typo)) per day
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by prophetjohn on Nov 26, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
awesome
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Is it navy blue or black
if it is, wear it. If not, donate it Goodwill, and claim the $150 on your taxes.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 27, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
it's black
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by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
so you almost have the same coat as I do now
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 27, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
this is it
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by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
that has the classic pea coat look
I got sort of a modernized version that is shorter and has a zipper. same material anyway
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 27, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
It looks fine
I still prefer leather to boiled wool, but the pea coat is a good look on big guys (check out Nicholson’s The Last Detail, or look here
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 27, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
to
to Goodwill.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 27, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
really ? a peacoat yo
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 26, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
but now i am imagining tom cruise in top gun wearing a peacoat.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
well, considering the volleyball scene...
not as much as you’d think.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
by IHeartBoog on Nov 27, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I've bought and returned 3 different coats so far this month.
Can’t find a single Navy coat that I like. Haven’t found one since I phased out my old brown wool coat. Need something other than me black pea coat
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
It depends on where you are.
On basically any college campus or medium sized city, the peacoat is a common item. As Chiton said, it’s not a radical statement.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
just say no.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
okay i guess i'm in the minority here
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
No, you just don't like/are a girly man
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i'm not a girly man?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
That's why the "like" was there
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i'm still not sure that sentence is english
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by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
Fuck you guys
You know what I meant
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i actually didn't work it out until after i posted that
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by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
ladies seem to really like Carhartt , just sayin
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 27, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
ugh
somewhere between peacoats and carhartt overalls, please
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
not overalls , nice coats , they've upgraded alot
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 27, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
I wear a 6-year old leather heavy leather jacket
from the Territory Ahead. I must be a man, ’cause I smoke the same cigarettes as Mick Jagger.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 27, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
yeah
thing is, i don’t own a massive truck and i haven’t been in a tree stand in several years
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by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
shit
i don’t even know how to field dress a deer nor do i drink busch lite. i just don’t think i could pull it off
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by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Is there an REI store near you ? nice coats there but $$
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 27, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
i dunno
i’m not gonna spend a bunch of money on a coat when i live in texas, though
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by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
i don't even OWN a coat.
well, i do. i keep it at my dad’s house in oregon for when i visit.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Welcome to Montana.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Language asshole!
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
granted you're one of like 3 opinions
that he should actually be concerned with as he’s stated he’s trying to impress the ladies with the coat… or at least not scare the ladies off.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
well,
you’re 50% of the woman vote
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by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Has ClemsonGirl left for good?
Or will she be back for ST?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 27, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
VEB was too seedy
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 27, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
I know I tried as hard as I could
to be a bad influence… well as much as someone can be a bad influence over the webertubes.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
good work
it’s a dirty job, but someone’s gotta do it
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 27, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
you should be proud, you did your best
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i don't think she's gone for good
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
so she's sort of like arnold schwarzenegger?
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 27, 2010 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
the only peas i know anything about are green & black eyed
i don’t even know what a pea coat is, that should tell you all you need to know about my fashion sense
and i should have known the reason for 100+ new comments had little to do with baseball
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
no
go cashsmere overcoat if you can pull it off. you need to be taller than average
pea coats make men look tiny
by YesWeOquendo on Nov 27, 2010 2:42 AM EST up reply actions
If you want to look like you're attempting to be metro, go for this.
Pinstriped cashmere overcoat? Come on now, how are you going to match things with that?
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
I think full blown peacoats look kinda stupid
i was pretty seriously considering something like that
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by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
honestly any dark wool coat looks pretty sharp
the full length I would recommend if you wear a lot of suits/ties otherwise go 3/4 or shorter
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
define full length
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by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
even to the knee is considered full length
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
yeah
mine is like mid-thigh
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by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Those are actually more edgy fashion statements than peacoats.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
that's kinda like my coat
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 28, 2010 1:50 AM EST up reply actions
no comment
adult swim card:
Research shows that basketball teams
that touch each other more
win more games.
Every butt slap and crotch grab
nonverbally communicates solidarity.
[punchline]
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I feel like that deserves a
that’s what she said somewhere in there…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
i just watched the CMA awards that i missed a couple weeks ago
and they actually said “that’s what she said” on the air, after someone said “it is so big and beautiful.”
i was pretty surprised by that.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Like the joke...
not sure how I feel about you watching the CMA awards… that’s a slippery slope.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
country women are damn sexy
and women love the male country singers
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I can only listen to so much twang
before I’m tempted to start crushing skulls… that said I have no problem with classic country. And I’m currently digging hardcore style on Lucero.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
i tried real hard to like lucero
that shit is just a little too yeehaw for me. it really seems like something i would like, though
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by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
I've always been one
to like it when you get crazy shit in a band… hence the use of the steel guitar is right up my alley. That and I’m fully convinced I can sing the songs as well if not better than their singer and I can’t sing to save my life.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
my singing ability
is directly proportionate to the volume of the music i’m listening to
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by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
I have been known
to belt out a lil falsetto duet with a buddy of A Favor House Atlantic… mostly whilst intoxicated.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Also...
say what you will about Lucero, but they make some damn good drinkin music.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
i do not listen to a lot of country
especially the new pop/country mix crap. but i was raised on the classics from the 30’s-80’s & the older i get the more i like it.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
meh, most of them are not attractive
and they are bald under those hats. but i like the music. mostly the older stuff.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
^referring to the men
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
We all know Minnie Pearl
was bald as a cue ball under that price tag hat…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
i anyone paying attention to the jeter negotiations?
it’s kind of hilarious. they offer the man (.310-ish wOBA, 36-years-old) 3/$45, a clear overpay and the man demands at least $80MM more. yankees laugh and dare him to go get a better offer elsewhere
you can’t make this shit up
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They're a victim of their own
you get a 100 million dollar contract, and you get a 100 million dollar contract, and you… ways
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
yeah
and this kind of player would be hard pressed to get more than 1/$5MM if his last name were anything other than jeter
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by prophetjohn on Nov 26, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
what a douche
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
that's fantastic
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 26, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
To be fair, Jeter was pretty amazing in 2009
And he’s definitely higher than a .310 wOBA – he’s never been that bad in his career. He’s probably about .350 going forward.
But yeah, it’s hilarious.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 27, 2010 2:17 AM EST up reply actions
i don't think he's .350 going forward
i would expect over the course of a three year contract he would be more like .340, .330, .320
also, holy shit, look at his career BABIP. he was probably a little unlicky last year
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by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
.350 would be a touch optimistic
At shortstop, that would be like a 4 WAR player. I think the aging will only bring him back up to .340 with ever deteriorating defense.
Fire John Mozeliak
by purple_haze on Nov 27, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, most sabers agree that he's on the order of -25 runs on defense per season
So with a .350 wOBA he would still be below average.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 27, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
probably not gonna happen
but i hope that the cashman, upon hearing he rejected 3/45.. calls up his agent and says
“I changed my mind… (pauses so the agent smiles)… I have lowered by offer to 3/36 and that’s my final offer”
“Not gonna work”
“Well then fuck off cause you’re wasting my time… go ahead… test the market see what you get”
and then Jeter signs a 2/16 million deal.. totally unrealistic… well actually completely realistic if the yankees give a big fuck you to Jeter for trying to screw us
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 27, 2010 3:09 AM EST up reply actions
goold spells it out for those outraged by the cards exposing jones and ottavino
they were already exposed on waivers when they were outrighted, with less risk to the claiming team, and no one took them. seems they will not be claimed in the rule V draft
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which is not a big surprise that they weren't claimed
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 27, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
uh, I mean, it will be no big surprise
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 27, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
but doesn't explain
letting joey go
seems particularly unnecessary now
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
question: michael clayton is on TNT
i have never seen it. is this one of those movies that will be terrible with all the swearing taken out?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
motherhumper
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 27, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
I think you'll still be able to get the jist of it.
Won’t be “This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!” bad I imagine.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
so far i am intrigued
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I once saw Pulp Fiction in AMC
They literally cut out half of the movie.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 27, 2010 2:18 AM EST up reply actions
i have weird memories of you
wearing long red socks and red shoes, i have weird memories
i have weird memories of you, pissing in the sink, i think, i have weird memories of you…
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i'm a birthday candle in a circle of black girls
god is on my side
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by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
oh, come, come be my waitress and serve me tonight
serve me the sky with a big slice of lemon
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by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
"That must have been what the cubs saw when they drafted him."
re: handegg player
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
apparently it's friday
and i’ll probably go to bed earlier than i have since the last time i was in missouri…
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yeah, boredom is putting me to sleep
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 27, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
OT:
have I mentioned that I bowl in a league with this guy? We bowled against his team on Wednesday, but he and his wife were gone, probably for the holiday. Man, can’t believe I’m telling you guys that I bowl in a senior league (I’m the youngest guy in the league, and I don’t even qualify for some of the post-season prizes because I’m not 55 yet).
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 27, 2010 12:54 AM EST reply actions
I bowled in a senior league once
basically they were a senior league, but they changed the format. so there were a ton of older people and very few younger people in it. anyways, it’s really cool that you bowl with an old baseball player!
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 27, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
now I need to find an old card of his, or one of my old baseballs for him to sign. Curse you, Atlas Van Lines, for losing (or stealing) my baseball with Lou Brock’s and Stan Musial’s signature on it! 1973 will live in infamy in my memory forever!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 27, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
wow, that's terrible!
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 27, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions
angrifying to be sure
lost my dad’s ball with
slaughter
marion
hornsby
etc
to f’in carpet people
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Man...if I'd had a ball with those guys on it
I’d have gone postal, and hunted those guys down.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 27, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
Not nearly as big of a loss
but I had lots of late ’60’s, early ’70’s cards with some that, undoubtedly, would now be quite valuable. I left them in a box under my bed when I went to college college. My mom threw them out. I’ve thought about replacing some of them (Gibby, Lou, Julian Javier, etc.) but I don’t feel like paying for them.
by ArkansasTravs on Nov 27, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
y'all turn on the WWL right now, the Boise State v Nevada game just got really good
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
no likey college games
night night
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 27, 2010 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
dude you're missing a heck of a finish
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
what is something a woman has never said about GDM in bed
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
jebus
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That catch?
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
YOU CAN'T SAY I DIDN'T TELL YOU
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Let's use our indoor voice.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
you can't say i didn't tell you
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Thank you
and wow!
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
unbefuckinglievable
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Someone needs to change his name
to Shankopotomas.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
I can't believe I missed that
I watched the 1st half (while putting up the wrong Christmas tree at daughter’s house, then having to take it back down) and didn’t even bother to check the score when I got home.
by ArkansasTravs on Nov 27, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly...
if you’re watching Boise State – Nevada I think you know college football overtime rules…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
don't screw it up....
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
didn't you hear me
yips
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that kid's gonna be a wreck
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I don't envy his lot in life at the moment.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
he'll never live this down
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
hopefully he won't end up in a trailer park
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSr4QnwOePQ
accent’s a bit thick… starts with “he likes to relive the game”
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
hehe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KvOXs1YfwQ
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i actually understood them, what does that say about me?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
nike hid this one but good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcWwTLMGttE
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i will never understand the world wide popularity of soccer
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
It's a cheap game to play...
don’t discount that fact.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
you can't use your hands!
how can it be a real sport if you can’t use your hands?!?!
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
That's what she said?
It’s a fun game to play, and a good game to watch if it’s broadcast properly.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
i've played it before & it was no fun
it’s just a bunch of running around. i hate running
that was a cool commercial though
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
can't say im totally dissapointed
Boise wasn’t getting in anyway….. that was probably going to TCU if one of the top two teams faltered…
But if they stayed there...
it would have made it harder for the pollsters to pull some voodoo to keep TCU out.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
well as long as Auburn and Oregon are undefeated
neither TCU or Boise is getting in the game… how does Boise losing affect TCU besides making them the essential front-runner if Auburn or Oregon loses?
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 27, 2010 2:00 AM EST up reply actions
My point is
that if one of those two teams loses… I can see a way the pollsters pull some voodoo to keep one of the “Little Sisters of the Poor” out of the game. If both TCU and Boise were there though it would be near impossible to have LSU jump both teams to move into the number 2 spot.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
oh... well if they are gonna pass TCU with LSU when Oregon loses to Oregon State
(mark it down!)…. then i guess i share the opinion that they would have passed both Boise State and TCU with LSU anyway…
but i can totally see where you’re coming from… be interesting to see what happens
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 27, 2010 2:05 AM EST up reply actions
TCU is legit though if they play Oregon 5 time I bet they win 3
don’t think I could say that about Boise
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
i agree
but then again i think Oregon is overrated anyway….
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 27, 2010 2:10 AM EST up reply actions
I agree but it is easy to get to being overrated in one of the BCS
conferences, TCU has a lot of NFL level defenders
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
My whole feeling is
that the worst thing the BCS could ever do is let one of “Little Sisters” into the National Championship game. If that happens then they’ll almost have to let all the conferences in and the Big 6 stop making money hand over fist.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
wait...
are you for or against TCU getting in… cause this comment makes me think you oppose them getting in…
personally im that offended or pissed if some of the Big Six teams make a little bit less money then they already are
and the bowl system is weird – if you’ve read the SI article last week, it says that the bowls make all the money and the teams barely make any profit the way its set up
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 27, 2010 2:14 AM EST up reply actions
I'm all for them getting in...
I want to blow this whole thing up and go back to the old Bowl Alliance… I like Pac 10 – Big Ten in the Rose Bowl… It makes me feel nice and warm. Plus it was more fun when you could hear people come up with completely crazy scenarios for teams backing in to national championships.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
ah here it is
read this article – its a great article basically showing how fucked up the BCS is….
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 27, 2010 2:17 AM EST up reply actions
I just get angry with everyone
saying a playoff will solve every problem that currently faces mankind. I really don’t think single elimination tournaments are the best way to find the best team. How many years have the NCAAs produced the team you honestly felt was the best team over the course of the year?
I know that has nothing to do with the bowl games, but I agree the bowl system is all about people making money and the NCAA further allowing the exploitation of the athletes so they can light cigars off rare 1934 Series $500 bills.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
also it doesn't show it on the vault
but here’s how the proposed system would work (i would go for eight teams personally but this would give every conference their fair shake)
1) Oregon vs. 16) Sun Belt champion (basically the worst conference – also i would have auburn but that’s me…)
2) Auburn vs. 15) MAC champion
3) TCU vs. 14) C-USA champion
4) Boise State vs. 13) Big East champion (HA!)
5) LSU vs. 12) ACC champion (HA!)
6) Stanford vs. 11) at-large
7) Wisconsin vs. 10) at-large
8) Nebraska vs 9) at-large
so that’s 11 conference champions and 5 at-large bids…. again i would just use the top 8 teams regardless of conference
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 27, 2010 2:28 AM EST up reply actions
I think 13% of the teams making the playoffs
is a good number. I see no reason to keep it to 8 because then you’re not being fair to all conferences. At least the NCAAs let all conferences in (play-in games not withstanding) I’m not a fan of the play-in game but that’s a different bitch for a different day.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
what's crazy is that this is doable
the last week of regularly scheduled games is December 4 and Army-Navy play the 11th for some reason… anyway you would have to have no rest
1st round – 12/10
2nd round – 12/17
Semis – 12/25 (if you’re against playing on Christmas, make it on Friday or Saturday
Finals – 1/8 (giving them a one week break like the Super Bowl…
how hard is that?
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 27, 2010 2:41 AM EST up reply actions
my dates are off one day
12/11 then 12/18 then 12/26 then 1/9 but my point stands
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 27, 2010 2:42 AM EST up reply actions
But Finals think of the finals
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
uhhh...
can we move the playoffs back a few weeks then and keep the finals sytem?
i’ve always thought the finals argument was bullshit since they have like four weeks in between their last game and their bowl game (that is if you have a January bowl game)
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 27, 2010 2:47 AM EST up reply actions
Right the 4 weeks between allows plenty of time to take all your finals
they have to keep up the illusion they give a rat’s ass about these kids getting an education.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
are you quoting that dude?
you’re quoting that dude.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
F'ing Boise State just made sure the BCS lives on
jerks
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
there's no way TCU plays Oregon or Auburn
one of the power conference 1 loss teams will. the BCS will lie, cheat & steal to keep that from happening
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
well at the very least....
it will give more ammunition and evidence to the BCS haters (pretty much everybody not making money from it…) there is hardly any argument AT ALL to keep TCU out of it besides the Big Six…. and that will create CHAOS if TCU is left out…
and that’s what we all want, amirite?
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 27, 2010 2:21 AM EST up reply actions
Which is why I wanted Boise to win...
cause jumping both of them would have caused all kinds of problems they could never have bounced back from. You know they’d do it too… look at last year… two of the little sisters go in and they played each other cause that was what America wanted to see… or so I’ve been told to think.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
America wants the BCS to die in a fire
chaos isn’t enough, we’ve had chaos before & the damn thing is still alive. we need a playoff system & the only way we’re going to get it is if there’s a massive realignment of the conferences, or some non power conference schools like Boise & TCU go undefeated & don’t play for the title or in BCS bowls vs the power conferences. we need to shove a stake through the heart of the BCS & kill it for good
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Uh we had that situation last year...
both teams were undefeated if I recall correctly and met in the Fiesta Bowl. I don’t think playoffs are the answer to the problem but I’m fighting a losing battle on that front.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
ya Boise & TCU played in the fiesta i think
which was a joke, they just put the small schools in the same game instead of letting them play a big school
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Ah the Fiesta Bowl...
the red headed step child of the BCS… why the Cotton Bowl isn’t a BCS bowl I’ll never understand.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
because the BCS hates America
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Something like that.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
also, what the fuck happened to cardball?
the guy was on this site 24/7 every day and then just dissappears for three months not even logging in….
which made me wonder if he died…. cause he said he had a ton of life experiences which means he was older….
which of course made me wonder if someone on this blog died, then we wouldn’t really have a way of finding out (unless you KNOW the person)… and in cardball’s case, he lives in NO…. so if he did die, we wouldn’t have any way of knowing….
THIS is what I think about when I have time on my hands… i need a girlfriend or SOMETHING…
could have gotten busy or reincarnated himself as a gay teenager from England
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
yeh the former is likely
my mind wanders off sometimes…. that second part needs to be a television show….
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 27, 2010 2:36 AM EST up reply actions
you mean ClemsonGirl/Cardball/Aranathor
CodyG and his many incarnations?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
In fairness I kinda disappeared this summer
when I had one of those job things…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
CodyG seems to have a lot of time on his hands
for all we know him and cardball’s conversations were him just entertaining himself…. by talking to himself… ironically, cardball stopped a little before CodyG went into college (beginning of August)
whoa.. the plot thickens…
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 27, 2010 2:45 AM EST up reply actions
he called azru a russian scientist and took off
that guy was weird
by YesWeOquendo on Nov 27, 2010 2:51 AM EST up reply actions
yep he also said that David Eckstein was a better bet the rest of the season on June 16
on June 16 Eckstein had a .280/.333/.362/.693 line and Schumacher had a Schumaker had a .249/.312/.362/.632 line
cardball said Eckstein was better going forward and nearly everyone disagreed with him… so PJ and VEP all argued with him about it… so…
from June 17-end of season Eckstein batted .251/.309/.281/.590 and Schumaker batted .286/.349/.365/.713…
anyway i thought that was interesting… i don’t know how i remembered that but it turns out… cardball was wrong
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 27, 2010 3:00 AM EST up reply actions
he didn't say just that
he also said eck was the best defensive 2B in baseball
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
I thought he seemed like an okay dude
I did think it odd that whenever people got to talking about a specific locale, he’d butt in and start talking about all the grand times he had living there. By my unofficial tally, he lived in New Orleans, NYC, San Diego, ten other cities, a dozen foreign nations, two U.S. protectorates, and a slew of unincorporated islands in the mid-Pacific.
so that narrows down our search............
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 27, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
it would be interesting to go fanfic
with cardball: international art thief.
but in the real world, that’s probably libel.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 27, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
I thought he was fine
he had good tastes in art. maybe not the most enlightened baseball fan, but he wasn’t stupid by any means
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 28, 2010 1:53 AM EST up reply actions
i thought he was banned because he was actually WCBW
that’s the word on the street
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
someone said they knew it wasn't true
besides, he posts at that other site, and he sounds the same. cardball was sideways in a different way.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 27, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
i wasn't around for him,
but the claim seemed unfounded. cardball wasn’t strictly a troll. just really set in his (sometimes really ridiculous) opinions
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twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Is cardball Circle Change on FanGraphs?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
no idea
i don’t post on fangraphs
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twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 27, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
he seems very similar in opinions to Cardball
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Your life most be so great
That a .350 wOBA would make him
by vivaelpujols on Nov 27, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
That's what I was thinking
But they have slightly different posting styles (if not similar opinions).
by vivaelpujols on Nov 27, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
that's total BS
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 28, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions
one of the most epic choke jobs i've ever seen
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Quick pile on the 22 year old...
Sounds reasonable.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
kind of like what many of us did to Dick 10 years ago?
in all seriousness i feel bad for the kid, he has no idea what’s about to be brought down upon him
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I've always made it a point not to get angry
over an athlete losing their shit. I know they are so far above my level that I don’t have room to be throwing stones in my glass house.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
i don't get upset at college kids, but i think it's OK to get mad at pro's if the screw up
even though they are better than me & i can’t even dream about doing what they do
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Well as much fun as the talk of
coat styles and BCS nonsense is I think it’s time to wander off.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
yep, might be time to mosey on outta here
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Is it baseball season yet?
I will ask this every day from here on out, let’s see how long it takes to get old
just went through security at lambert
no scan, no pat down. it looks to me like they’re only doing pat downs and they’re only doing it to the elderly. i guess the elderly are less likely to throw a fit. keep us safe, TSA
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
Never trust anyone over 65, man!!!
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
there's like 40 MPH wind where i'm sitting in the airport
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
ProphetJohnInChitown
chicago is on the way to austin from st louis?
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twatter
I used to get sent to vegas on the flight from SLC to Denver always struck me as odd
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