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Baseball's playoff envy

I do these the night before, so if John Mozeliak and Albert Pujols were up all night negotiating the terms of an especially byzantine contract—one year, $200 million, with nine team options at $400,000 a piece, adjusted for Zimbabwean inflation—I stand corrected, but it seems as though no Cardinals-related news has broken or threatened to break. (Directly Cardinals related but not really news: Carson Cistulli digs up the lost [this is a polite word for apocryphal] film careers of Brendan Ryan and David Eckstein.) 

A fine time to remind ourselves that the Hot Stove League is only hot relative to our desire to watch the sports currently in season. 

Speaking of which, I'm a little wary of baseball's latest attempt to become more like those sports.

Commissioner Bud Selig's plan to expand baseball's playoffs to 10 teams gained a sense of inevitability after little to no opposition emerged during meetings this week with owners and general managers.

Selig said his special 14-man committee will discuss adding two wild-card teams when it meets Dec. 7 during the winter meetings in nearby Lake Buena Vista.

"We will move ahead, and move ahead pretty quickly," Selig said Thursday after three days of meetings concluded.

Baseball has a ways to go before it becomes like the NBA, where more than half the teams in the league make the playoffs and the regular season is disrespected by fans and players alike, but I'm disappointed to see the fetishization of the playoffs continue to make inroads in the last sport to have avoided it (outside New York.) 

What's terrible about this, to me, isn't that the playoffs aren't exciting and fun, although I'm not a huge fan myself. It's that, as you'll recall, baseball has a regular season that is 162 games long. That's a lot of games, as a fan of any other sport will tell you, repeatedly. For the sake of money, presumably, and the sports-fan-at-large—who, if he's talking about how long the season is or how few teams make the playoffs, will never be of a mindset to offer baseball his grudging acceptance—Bud Selig is attempting to make the major feature of baseball, its extraordinarily long season, slightly less relevant. 

This strikes me as a bad idea. It's like

  • VIDEO GAME ANALOGY: Developing Leonardo's Workshop in Civilization II and then doing a mad-dash toward the Automobile tech, or building city walls and then trading all the other civilizations the technology for siege weapons. 
  • BASEBALL ANALOGY: Inheriting the Colorado Rockies circa 2000 and lobbying for balls hit into the stands to be ruled doubles. 

Baseball is a slow game that develops over a slow season. Runs aren't just scored, they accrete on the bases—we're made to watch them develop. Teams don't blow a season with a bad game, or win it with a good one; seasonal narratives develop over weeks and months. And the best teams don't emerge in a five or seven game series, let alone a one-game playoff. Its famous records and moments are a testament to this—60 home runs, 56 games, a .400 average. Basketball and football stars have big games; baseball stars have big seasons. 

Baseball is not well-suited for a playoff tournament or a short series. Its management can either recognize that, and play to its strengths, or look longingly at the cultural cachet of the Super Bowl or the NCAA Tournament and illustrate to a broader audience just how poorly suited baseball is. 

Star-divide

(DVD Bonus Material: Further danup go-to analogies:)

  • WEIRDLY DATED POP CULTURE ANALOGY: Like casting Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan in a movie together as murderous terrorists who don't even consider falling in love at the end. 
  • 19TH CENTURY BASEBALL ANALOGY: Like signing two-way player "Parisian Bob" Caruthers and putting him to work as a designated pinch-runner. 
  • LITERARY ANALOGY: Like commissioning Saul Bellow to fill out a Mad Lib.
  • ALTERNATE LITERARY ANALOGY: Like commissioning David Foster Wallace to write up a grant application.
  • META ANALOGY: Like putting an Orange slice in your Fresca.
  • META-META ANALOGY: Like commissioning [famous author] to fill out a [tightly restrictive word game].
  • HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS OPENING DAY COMMEMORATIVE ANALOGY: Like having the power to imbue objects with pieces of your immortal soul and then choosing to make one of those objects a snake that you then send directly at the heroes, increasingly vulnerable, to do your bidding.

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and baseball has always had the best playoff tournament. It is called the pennant race. It is anywhere from 4-6 weeks long and it is a thing of beauty. Adding more teams to the post season tournament will weaken the excitement of the race. If MLB wants to add to the post season simply make the first round a seven game series, but do not add teams.

by nybirdfan on Nov 19, 2010 7:40 AM EST reply actions   4 recs

if FOX & FESPN want expanded playoffs

and pony up, we’ll have expanded playoffs

It’s all about the Benjamins. . .

Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Jay/Craig 9, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, M Carpenter 5, Molina 2, T Greene 4, Ryan 6, pitcher

by gocards62 on Nov 19, 2010 7:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Stupid Benjamins Ruin Everything....

:=8/

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 19, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

This is true,

but at the same time I like the idea of a sudden death 1game drama day for the 4&5 seeds, which will not only be fun in itself, but will provide an advantage to the team that played the best of the course of a season as the opponent will have already spend the #1 starter.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Nov 19, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Does anyone know if cots service time figures are up to date?

And boog at SS with jj hardy at 2nd would be the best double play combo in the NL

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Nov 19, 2010 8:42 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

through 2009 only

Per note under team heading. double checked Holliday’s service time to confirm and it’s listed as 6.000

by ubeddie on Nov 19, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

thanks

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Nov 19, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha

Voldemort is so stupid. iPhone tried to auto-correct voldemort to goldsmith. Not this time iPhone, not this time

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Nov 19, 2010 8:57 AM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

wife bought me

the samsung captivate my heart had been desiring for several months as an early birthday present yesterday. Productivity has definitely dropped today.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Nov 19, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of this

I work for AT&T and I was just wondering if anyone has formed any opinions on the WP7 yet. Just wanted unbiased feedback to help me put the right people in one

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Nov 19, 2010 1:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

do you have any idea why at&t has obscenely large dead zones in unobstructed, populated areas of chicago?

I didn’t answer your question, i know. but just wondering.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 19, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

i'd assume it's due to lack of towers.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Nov 19, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

ok, then smartypants

there are plenty of tall buildings in chicago, put signal on top of the buildings, voila! Towers! AT&T has plenty of money to make Chicago not have dead zones at street level

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 19, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

stupid yes,

But it’s a freakin snake. Don’t tell me you wouldn’t do it.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Nov 19, 2010 8:59 AM EST reply actions  

i would

also…i’d have made hermione a horcrux…lets see harry kill her

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Nov 19, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

hermione wasn't arround when he was into the soul splitting thing.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Nov 19, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

yea she was

he made nagini into one while they were at hogwarts

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Nov 20, 2010 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

a freakin' BIG snake

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 19, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

...i'll just wait for it.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 19, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

in bed

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 19, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Typical Selig - mortgage the future for the present

Here’s a better idea – instead of expanding the playoffs, why not just go ahead and grant next year’s wild card spot to the Brewers and just get it over with. You hate to placate the biggest brat of the bunch, but I’d much rather keep things as they are than to further diminish the quality of play or the integrity of the game.

by peppermartin on Nov 19, 2010 9:03 AM EST reply actions  

I loved Leo's Workshop in Civ II

it was the crux of many a strategy of mine. Now I kinda feel like digging the game out and seeing how it stands up to IV and V.

Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM

by Choix003 on Nov 19, 2010 9:16 AM EST reply actions  

Civilization

As a fan of all five versions of the game (plus the original Colonization and Alpha Centauri), I definitely appreciate the reference. I might also try to find my CD for Civ II and give it a whirl for old times’ sake. (That’s the one with FMV advisors in various costumes, right?)

I have been playing the crap out of Civ V (probably 150-175 hours so far). Love the switch to hexagons and I can’t think of anything offhand that I miss from Civ IV that didn’t make the conversion. (Civ V definitely has a challenger right now for my gaming time with Fallout: New Vegas.)

I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson

by Solanus on Nov 19, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I lost a couple years of my life to civ 2. now, I am afraid

I can’t recall what either leonardo’s workshop or automobiles accomplishes.

Civ 5 sounds tempting but my marriage and continued employment probably preclude my indulgence.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Nov 19, 2010 11:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Just 2 years?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 19, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

this
Civ 5 sounds tempting but my marriage and continued employment probably preclude my indulgence.

goddamn responsibilities are always getting in the way of fun.

by _pistol_ on Nov 19, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Just ... one ... more ... turn

Yeah, it’s just as addicting as before. The only thing that kills the immersion for me is the program really likes to freeze up. I still slog my way through it.

A guy I used to work with was really, REALLY into trains, doing stuff like chasing trains from Chicago to Denver in his car, taking trains up to Hudson Bay in winter, etc. (He’s not married or has any other responsibilities.) I offered to give him my copy of Railroad Tycoon 2 a few years back and he told me, “Don’t you fucking dare – I will never see the sun again!”

I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson

by Solanus on Nov 19, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Love Civ IV: Beyond the Sword!!!

:=8D

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 19, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I was a big fan of Civ III

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 19, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

SMAC was the best game I've ever played

I gave up on Civ after III, but still play SMAC every now and then.

best thing with SMAC is that you can play a game from beginning to end on huge planet/transcend in one evening, if you focus on the goal (transcend by turn 100!), or you can have more fun and make a game last a month.

MOO2 was also a great game. I wish Civ had something like the Moo2 combat model.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Nov 19, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I loved playing civ II

but i really sucked at it…i would basically own everything by the end of a cycle….but i would always get a shitty score….i just didn’t understand the strategy i suppose

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Nov 19, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Not only does this stake the outcome of a 162 game season to even fewer games,

it also, once again, pushes the end date of the season further into handegg territory. While this further exposes the MLB to competition with more popular NFL games, and while it exasperates the problem of a huge season that turns based on a single game, it utterly fails to address the actual biggest problem of the playoffs: Some of the teams in them just shouldn’t be there. The best three teams in baseball have been in the AL East for almost half a decade now and that division routinely contains four of the top 10 teams.

"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy

by hazel on Nov 19, 2010 9:25 AM EST reply actions  

Regular Season

The regular season would have to be shortened if the playoffs are expanded. 154 games or possibly down to 140 is what I heard mentioned, but we’d have snow in the playoffs if they keep the 162 game season and add to the playoffs.

I’m against adding teams – the difficulty of making the playoffs is what’s great. You don’t even have to be .500 in the NBA to be the 8th seed in the East – it’s pitiful

by brafi on Nov 19, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

exacerbates

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 19, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

burn

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

sauce

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 19, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Bud Selig has the "Brown Touch"...

everything he touches turns to shit.
Is he like a Supreme Court Judge….lifetime appointment?
What the hell is wrong with this guy? He shows over and over that he’s not interested in what’s good for the game.

Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.

by Dave Pendleton on Nov 19, 2010 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

Baseball has done incredibly well since he's been the commish.

The guy seems like a dolt, but business wise they are thriving.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 19, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Baseball "The Business"...

may have done OK but Baseball “The Game” hasn’t.

Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.

by Dave Pendleton on Nov 19, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That has a lot more to do with scandal than the wild card

Hopefully guys like Strasburg and Heyward change that

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 19, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

false.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Nov 19, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess it depends on how you look at it.

 I think Selig could and should have been harder on steroid use in MLB. I always got the feeling that he winked at much of it. It sure took a long time to start putting a lid on it…after some government intervention.
 Was it Selig that came up with the idea of awarding home field advantage to the winner of the All Star game? And how about that All Star Tie game? How about the chance to overturn an obvious blown call to preserve a no hitter? Now he wants to extend the playoffs.
 From what I’ve seen of Bud Selig he seldom misses the chance to do the wrong thing.

Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.

by Dave Pendleton on Nov 21, 2010 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

One of the best things about the MLB network

is the ability to go back and watch the great games from the 70’s and 80’s.

After doing much of this, it’s clear- the average non-yankees/red sox baseball game today is more fun, and more exciting, than the “great games” from the 70’s and 80’s.

How much of that is due to Selig, and how much to Gold’s Gym, is debatable, and you may disagree with me about liking modern baseball more, but that’s my opinion.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Nov 22, 2010 2:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure what you mean by...
….non-yankees/red sox baseball game today is more fun, and more exciting, than the "great games" from the 70’s and 80’s.

It’s a matter of personal taste, possibly. I don’t find today’s game (or the Selig era games) particularly more exciting than those of other eras…in fact, I find the Selig era to be more suspicious if anything.
I can’t hang everything on Selig but as far as commissioners go I can’t rank him as a good one, personally.
 The original idea of a commissioner was suppose to be someone who looked after the game, someone who didn’t have to bow to either owners or players (not to say that former commish’s did get swayed).
 That concept ended with the appointment of Selig and I think it was a bad move in general. He was an owner. He was inserted for a reason, by the other owners, and owners, throughout the history of baseball, usually look out for what’s in the best interest of the owners, even when it’s not that great for baseball.
 In general, there haven’t been that many great commish’s and all of them have made both good and bad moves, but I prefer the idea of an independent over one of “the good ole’ boys”. That alone puts me at odds with Selig.
 The players like him (in general) but so would I if I were taking steroids and he wasn’t doing much about it.
 As far as today’s game vs. 70’s or 80’s…or 50’s or 60’s….again, it’s a matter of taste for me. I like stolen bases as a part of the game, for example. But you don’t need to steal bases as much when there are so many guys capable of hitting home runs. If and when steroids are eliminated maybe stolen bases will make a comeback, I don’t know.
 Inter-league play is something that some people like and some people don’t.
I don’t (as part of the schedule and as games that count in the standings).
The designated hitter thing…….I can’t even begin to describe how much I hate it. It’s like playing chess with an extra queen…totally against the way the game is supposed to be played. It’s suppose to make the game more exciting…generate more offense. But there are lot’s of fans that just despise it.
The All Star game doesn’t even resemble what the original idea was. And now Selig has made it even worse by making it “count” for something.
Now he wants to water down the regular season by adding more playoff’s.
Sure, some fans are going to like it because their team can still have a chance later into the season. It will put more butts in the seats for a longer period of time. But at what expense to the game…and what expense to the World Series? It just waters it down more than it already is.
 I know that I’m in the minority in my thinking because I’m so much older than most folks here. I see things differently than most here. I can actually remember when the two teams with the best records met in the World Series, every season. I don’t know how many people here can say that, maybe a few. But it made the World Series more definitive and for me that was better than what we have today…but it’s just my view of it. Most folks here don’t remember a time with no playoffs, no designated hitter, no steroids and real All Stars.
The more the game gets tinkered with the less I like it. It’s not all Selig’s fault but he’s done his share of tinkering.

Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.

by Dave Pendleton on Nov 22, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, he expanded the playoffs to the current format

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 22, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you

Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.

by Dave Pendleton on Nov 22, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't particularly like the guy

but his results haven’t been shit. in fact, it’s much easier to argue the opposite position.

by _pistol_ on Nov 19, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't really get how he has lasted so long, either

other than he’s made a lot of money for the owners. Then again, that’s pretty much enough.

That and he’s basically Wormtongue from Lord Of The Rings.

by peppermartin on Nov 19, 2010 9:36 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Sort of.

Except I know own a house and my daughter lives in our basement (from time to time).

by bobcat80 on Nov 19, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

p.s. I am kidding, While my parents never had a basement...i grew up in FL

I used to be that way…now my wife won’t let me and my Kids like to take buttons off my keyboard so I can never be online or playing games, etc at home.

by ADMDrayson on Nov 19, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan movies are geeky?

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 19, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

If well-implemented, an extra playoff team per League could be fine.

I just doubt MLB’s ability to implement anything well. Also, the transparency of this idea’s motive is nearly insulting. Many innovations, which could improve the presented product (instant replay…) face harsh obstacles, using the “sanctity of the game” as an excuse. Yet, an opportunity to increase revenue, despite the effects on the “sanctity of the game”, are passed through quickly and clumsily.

David Foster Wallace (RIP) would create an epic grant application. He was an incredibly versatile writer. And a surprisingly great sports writer. If you don’t like tennis, Wallace could possibly turn you with this article. This is a major reason why Federer is one of my favorite athletes.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 19, 2010 10:09 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

The instant replay thing is infuriating

You would think the blown perfect game would be enough to change that for the 2011 season.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 19, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed...

MLB has a way of actively avoiding real issues (steroids, instant replay, etc) that matter and go for years without changing, yet looking for ways to modify the league (playoffs) that doesn’t seem to have a logical root. Oh, wait. In this scenario, “logical root” = money, so yes, it makes perfect sense…

I’m not above changes, but the changes made should enhance the BASEBALL experience, not the BUSINESS experience. The owners all make money, the players all make money. Expanded playoffs are just a new way to make MORE money.

Honestly, if you’re an owner, you’d want it because it gives you a great opportunity to make the post season and (re: 2006 Cardinals and 2010 Giants) win a World Series. If you’re a player, it gives you a great opportunity to make the post season and win a World Series.

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

by p_lampe on Nov 19, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

the longer the playoffs, the less of a wash it is, though

so fewer teams like the ’06 cards and ’10 giants

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 19, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

'10 Giants are for real though

Best pitching staff in the Majors.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Nov 19, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

for real indeed

2010 giants won the west
2006 cardinals won the central

wild card has nothing to do with either

by YesWeOquendo on Nov 19, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

they're a good team

but so were the ’06 cardinals

i’d still say that the yankees, rays, twin, phillies, rangers and maybe braces were better than the giants

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 19, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't know about the braces

but the retainers definitely have them beat

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 19, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The 1960 Pirates would like a word with you. . .

And the ’87 Twins and Cardinals.

And the ’85 Royals.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 19, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

EFF OFF SBN!!!!!

I have to wait a day to comment, because I just joined the “main” SBN, apparently all my other memberships aren’t enough to verify I’m not a bot.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 19, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I had that same problem.

They should give me a tv just for all this effort.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 19, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

this gif from that page is incredible

I’ve never seen this

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 19, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Epic cup check.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 19, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

was the ump telling him to take a base?!?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Nov 19, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

i think he's saying that he went around

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 19, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

bahaha

he decided two sundays before that pitch that he was gonna swing

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 19, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

And

it wasn’t even an accidental swing to try to avoid the pitch or anything…it was an actual swing

by saladdays on Nov 19, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

no commish has done more to both hurt & help the sport than good ole bud

i really can’t wait for the days when we are no longer held hostage by him

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 19, 2010 11:01 AM EST reply actions  

GDM... it has been alleged that you and are the same person.

Is this true?

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 19, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

sense this makes how?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 19, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm having an existential crisis...

I can’t even type the “I” in “you and i”

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 19, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I can’t even type the "I" in "you and i"

But you just did type it, so problem solved, or we’re all stuck in some strange continuous loop.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Nov 19, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Confused by my own inconsistencies!

I can’t stand it… making way towards basement…more confusion!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 19, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

The Horror!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Nov 19, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps you are not only not the same person as gdm

you are also not the same person as SheckieZx.

So who are you, if anybody?

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Nov 19, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm in a glass case of emotion!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 19, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Or here's a thought

You are not the same person as somebody else entirely

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Nov 19, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought he was CodyG, myself.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 19, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Both... have been alleged.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 19, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm all seriousness

How did you fail this epically? (epicly?) You misspelled “I”

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Nov 19, 2010 1:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Now you know the seriousness of my dilemma!

and it’s “epically” Mr. Dictionary.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 19, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I know because i looked it up in a dictionary...

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 19, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

ya, no, we are not the same

i don’t know who you pissed off to be accused of that but i’m sorry

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 19, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

OSU going to whip you're Hawkeye's ass tomorrow

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 19, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I will have to agree with you

they were awful against Northwestern last week.

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Nov 19, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

ya but OSU could take them for granted like they did the badgers

and get run off the field & embarrassed

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 19, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

very true

and the Hawkeye’s seem to only care about beating good teams.

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Nov 19, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

sounds familiar.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 19, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

i knew this was somehow all Cody's faut

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 19, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

this is surreal

the two better versions of myself arguing about their perennially overrated football teams!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 19, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

i will take a lot of shit around here

but if there’s one thing i won’t take is having OSU referred to “my” team. no way, no how. i simply live here, i do not pull for or root for OSU to win. the only reason i like them to win is because everyone around here is just a little but less of a jackass when they do. i was simply giving Cody shit because he’s a student at Iowa & hates OSU almost as much as i hate everything about my life.

also you’re not me & i’m not you. i don’t know how that started but it needs to stop.

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 19, 2010 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

i was just...you know... joking around man

i think it started due to a self-deprecating remark.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 19, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

its cool, just trying to drop some knowledge

i know you’re relatively new so you might not know all the what’s what & who’s who

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 19, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

CIVILIZATION ANALOGY!!!!!! :=8D

My fuzzy heart is aflutter!
:=8D

I play Civ IV: Beyond the Sword pretty mooch every day!

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 19, 2010 11:43 AM EST reply actions  

Civ V rocks!

Of course, if you have a particular mod for Civ IV that you like (Fall From Heaven or Planetfall, perhaps), you can probably wait on the new version. The mod makers have not swung into full gear yet and the pickings are kinda slim.

I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson

by Solanus on Nov 19, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I herd....

…that they got rid of religions and espionage!
:=8O

but I like the idea of no unit stacking and hexes instead of squares. I also herd that u have to pay for extra civilizations!

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 19, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Why the hell do they keep on insisting on this?

The way it used to be, the playoffs were MORE exciting, not less—you waited for the last two weeks of the season for this matchup that got built up and ever-clearer.

Now, you have no idea what the playoff matchups will be until the last couple of days of the season, and you care less because the teams aren’t as good, because they’re are more of them. And then when the best team in the league is eliminated in a five game series, you’re stuck with a stupid WS matchup as often as not. I really wish we could just go back to the two-round, four team playoffs.

That said, I actually don’t mind this one-game playoff scheme. It’ll at least make the top two teams in a division fight for the title, rather than just knowing that one of them will be a wildcard.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 19, 2010 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

I didn't know that in 1993, the Giants didn't make the playoffs

despite a 103-59 record. That is wild!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 19, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember that year those were two very good teams

Swift and Van Landingham didn’t quite match up with the ATL staff

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 19, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Tommy Lasorda gave an impassioned speech to the Dodgers going into the last game.

Reminded the team about their rivalry and that their goal was to keep the Giants out of the playoffs. Dodgers won the game in a blowout and Atlanta won the division (after being 9 GB in early August).

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 19, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Neither did the 103 win '54 NYY

in a 154 game season.

That’s what makes baseball a great game.

Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Jay/Craig 9, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, M Carpenter 5, Molina 2, T Greene 4, Ryan 6, pitcher

by gocards62 on Nov 19, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Money.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Nov 19, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

You're losing more money when you depress the ratings of the WS

and making the game less appealing to fans.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 20, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

dear bud selig

stop toying around with the game. realize that baseball postseason should be 7 game series (none of this ridiculous 5 game wild card BS). If you want to tinker, make each round 7 games and shorten the season a bit (which would further confuse the record books but hey, 162 games is a bit much imo). and oh yeah, baseball was not meant to be played in November, ever.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 12:43 PM EST reply actions  

162 games is not too much!!!

more games!!! more double headers!!! shorter off-season!!!

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Nov 19, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess they could turn spring training into real games

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

hell yah

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a recipe for having players go down with injuries

It’d be way harder to convince managers to pull Linsecum after 3 innings in a game that counted.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 20, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

In the spirit of Thanksgiving

if these were pilgrim times, I’d be totally down with giving Selig a tar-and-feathering

by peppermartin on Nov 19, 2010 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

A witch!!!!

What do we do to witches?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 19, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Trial by Ordeal

Its gods will after all.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Nov 19, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

do they float?

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Its funnier when they sink. lol

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Nov 19, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

whoops

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

If you want life-sized representations of what they did to witches...

or how they housed the insane throughout history…as well as artwork completed by those with various mental illnesses, including a schizophrenic that stitched out the thoughts in her head…as well as a mosaic created by the 1446 items removed from the stomach of a “chronic swallower”, who died during the crude surgery performed… GO TO MY HOMETOWN!!!

It’s #5 on the list, and in all honesty it is much more mundane than cracked.com makes it out to be.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 19, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

history is messed up

look at what they did to smart people like Hypatia

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha

History is awesome, I just wouldn’t want to live there.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Nov 19, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

History is a perpetual experiment in how to cause more agony for others...

but hell, it is interesting.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 19, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm looking forward to the future myself.

Some good future fashioned Warhammer 40k.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Nov 19, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Welcome

Your Orky overlords.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Nov 19, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Orkney?

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 19, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

More references to computer games from 15 years ago

There was a great game that came out for the PC back in ’96 (it was on console a little earlier than that) called Space Hulk. It was based in the Warhammer 40K universe and was a squad-based strategy game where you took a group of Space Marines and had them navigate through maps of respawning bad guys. You could give your guys orders (via map system) or switch to a particular soldier to get through tricky spots. Good times, good times.

I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson

by Solanus on Nov 19, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

good times

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 19, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Well said

I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson

by Solanus on Nov 19, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Space Hulk was good.

Anyone here ever play XCOM?

"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy

by hazel on Nov 19, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

(pushes taped BCG's back along nose)

Akshually, I believe the proper title of the American releash of UFO: Enemy Unknown, ish X-COM: UFO Defensh, with a hyphen. The new production, XCOM, ish a very different take on the franchishe, being a firsht-pershon shooter, shet in the 1950’s.
(End nerd rage)

LOVE X-COM, love it, love it, love it! The new game does look mighty tasty, regardless of it being a departure from the squad-based tactical gaming. It’s just that hardly anybody has come close to matching the pacing and tone of that series. If I was home right now (vs. getting ready for hibachi dinner out, followed by Mr Potter Goes To Hogwarts), I’d go into far more detail on the subject.

Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.

by Rejuvenile on Nov 19, 2010 5:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Went to a midnight showing last night with the wife and kids

have to say, they did a very good job with Part 1. And I had really only enjoyed the first in this series, until last night. Hope part 2 is just as good. BTW, my daughter recorded the Late Night from the other night when Emma Watson was on. Have to say, Roger Ebert was right about her. She is a hot hottie, even with short hair.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 19, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

BTW, for those with no military experience

BCG’s are the glasses given to Basic Trainees to wear instead of their flimsy, expensive, and decent-looking spectacles. BCG of course stands for Birth Control Glasses, because no one would copulate with anyone wearing the hideous things.

Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.

by Rejuvenile on Nov 19, 2010 8:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Those are BCG's

to this Senior Airman (separated), and to my Petty Officer 3rd Class brother (separated) and my Chief Petty Officer sister (acitve).

Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.

by Rejuvenile on Nov 22, 2010 9:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yes.

X-COM really blows anything else with a similar engine (even stuff that came out a decade layer) out of the water because the game was just so damn well made. It’s atmospheric as hell, especially the early battles and the slow discovery of different sorts of enemy types and technologies.

"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy

by hazel on Nov 19, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I really cn't believe that the Yankees and Red Sox are okay with this extra team nonsense

it just gives other teams a little more of a chance at keeping those two franchises from their rightful places in the ALCS and WS

Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)

by mattyfrommo on Nov 19, 2010 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

reasoning?

I cant figure out why he wants to add more playoffs. Fox doesnt even bother to show the first round, and only bothers to pick up 1 of the 2 Championship Series. Its not more lucrative than an episode of House. I guess he just wants to keep as many teams in it as long as possible, and always, always have both NY & Bos in the playoffs.

by bikestl on Nov 19, 2010 1:36 PM EST reply actions  

did halladay win NL cy young?

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Nov 19, 2010 1:50 PM EST reply actions  

yessirree

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

unanimously

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 19, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

keep your political views to yourself

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 19, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

DanUp for president!

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 19, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

you have to be older than 12 to run for POTUS

Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)

by mattyfrommo on Nov 19, 2010 4:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Playoffs

You guys will have to read the fine print. In this new playoff scenario, the Yankees and Red Sox will be allowed to switch divisions if that would help them make the playoffs…and eventually, they want to switch to a format that allows the Red Sox to represent the National League in the World Series so that they could play the Yankees during the regular season AND the World Series…pure genius!!!

How about handin' me another helpin' of those mashed taters...thank you very much!

by Elvis on Nov 19, 2010 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

Actually the new system will be like the PBA

Yanks and Bosox will be seeded, i.e. always in the playoffs.

Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Jay/Craig 9, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, M Carpenter 5, Molina 2, T Greene 4, Ryan 6, pitcher

by gocards62 on Nov 19, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Halladay

I think Halladay deserved the Cy Young award this year, however, I was surprised that it was unanimous. He was the best, but not by a wide margin. His and Wainwrights seasons were nearly identical and Jimenez not too terribly far behind.

They got it right, but was anyone else surprised some whacko didn’t vote for somebody else? I mean one idiot put Wainwright 5th. (That person should never be allowed to vote for anything ever again.) There is always some moron that puts Pujols 8th for MVP or leaves Carp completely off his ballot for Cy Young in 2009, or votes for Jeter for a gold glove.

How about handin' me another helpin' of those mashed taters...thank you very much!

by Elvis on Nov 19, 2010 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

The Perfect Game sealed for him

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 19, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Bud Selig

the man who hated baseball

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

Strauss sighting

Strauss twitted last night – “Hearing some interesting deletions from Cards’ 40-man looming.” Didn’t see any mention of it in yesterday’s evening thread.

Could this be the end of Stavinoha? Or are the Cards gonna cut Boog two weeks early in order to keep Kozma on the 40 man?

by ubeddie on Nov 19, 2010 2:16 PM EST reply actions  

The HPGF tag implies minors.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 19, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

have a bad feeling about boog

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Surprising but not unwaranted:

Stavinoha, Hawk, Kozma could all be chopped with a clear conscience.

"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy

by hazel on Nov 19, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

i would like to see Hawk in the pen next year

the guy has stuff and has shown the ability to be a useful longman

Fire John Mozeliak

by purple_haze on Nov 19, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

It seems like Hawk was a pretty useful piece

by OCCardsFan on Nov 19, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Disagree.

His fastball is a workable pitch, but his changeup really isn’t particularly good, and his breaking ball just Suppan-esque.

A useful longman, yeah sure. Hawk looks like he could be a decent Brad Thompson type, but he really hasn’t shown himself to be a ML quality reliever or starter.

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by hazel on Nov 19, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

must be rid of stav

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Why would they add Koz 2 days ago, then cut him?

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by RiverRat on Nov 19, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

supposed to protect him from the Rule V draft

I don’t get the big deal unless there was someone else who deserved the spot. I suppose they can remove him from the 40-man later on, no?

Koz, in all likely, would have been playing in AAA for another organization if selected.

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by martimeryard on Nov 19, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

must pass through waivers

to be dropped from the 40 man and then anyone can claim him (ala Mather) or he can choose to become a minor league free agent (ala Pags)

by ubeddie on Nov 19, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

don't they have to be out of options

to be able to elect free agency?

pags was released

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by prophetjohn on Nov 19, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Confused right now

Mather was outrighted and picked up by Atlanta. The Cards transaction page says Pags was outrighted not released. The MiLB transaction page says Pags then declared free agency.

Cot’s has this on outright assignments.

A player assigned outright to the minor leagues for the first time in his career must accept the assignment. Thereafter, a player has the choice of 1) rejecting the assignment and becoming a free agent immediately, or 2) accepting the assignment and become a free agent at the end of the season if he has not been returned to the 40-man roster.

by ubeddie on Nov 19, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

i think i'm thinking of

a player with no options being removed from the 25-man roster

but still, this would have been the first time that pags was outrighted off the 40-man roster, right?

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by prophetjohn on Nov 19, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes first time outrighted

I think Pags fell under the six years in the minors rule, which allows him to file for free agency. He was drafted and signed back in 2003.

by ubeddie on Nov 19, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

nice work

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by prophetjohn on Nov 19, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Wrigley can't pull off a real

football game.

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by RiverRat on Nov 19, 2010 2:25 PM EST reply actions  

i'm going to the game

and it’s now officially a joke

by _pistol_ on Nov 19, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

bestow pictures upon us?

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by Yadi2Second on Nov 19, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

sure thing

now i have to decide if should risk bringing my nicer camera

by _pistol_ on Nov 19, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah sounds like a circus

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1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
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by albrtfn on Nov 19, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

would you expect anything other than epic fail from that place?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 19, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Random Ruben Amaro Jr. Quote
Phillies GM Ruben Amaro Jr. suggested that Raul Ibanez and Jayson Werth are comparable hitters, according to David Murphy of the Philadelphia Daily News. That’s probably not the first comparison agent Scott Boras would make about Werth.

In unrelated news, Amaro Jr. was later admitted to an asylum for the clinically insane

I need a witty tagline

by Aranathor on Nov 19, 2010 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

yeah, I saw that posted somewhere earlier, I was just like, wuhhhh?

and what are they suggesting, that Ibanez can play two outfield positions or what? still need to replace werth

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe it's all PR...

they give Werth an offer that he can refuse. now they’re trying to show confidence that they don’t need Werth.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 19, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he's been sippin' up that Purple Drank.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 19, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

he's definitely on somethin

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

he loves Ibanez

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't they just sign someone else?

werth is probably going to be one of the most expensive players right now

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

why don't

/hangover

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Domonic Brown

I read his first name as Demonic the first time I looked at it.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Nov 19, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Now we must trade for him.

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by hazel on Nov 19, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

"It's What I like to See: LITTLE THINGS HITTING EACH OTHER!!!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0q-kqvA-Ho

;=8)

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by The MooCow on Nov 19, 2010 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

leach article on why pujols should win mvp

here.

pretty good article, IMO.

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by IHeartBoog on Nov 19, 2010 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

when is mvp announced?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

monday 1:00

I thought I told you to trim those sideburns!

by martimeryard on Nov 19, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

CT

I thought I told you to trim those sideburns!

by martimeryard on Nov 19, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

it will be super hilarious if they give it to Pujols

Reds fans would go red in the face and say a whole lot of stupid shit.

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd be shocked if it does happen

Not that Pujols doesn’t have a good case for himself.

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by martimeryard on Nov 19, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

me too

I’m thinking the gold glove he got is a nod to Votto getting it (it’s Pujols consolation prize)

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

but there are completely different voter for those awards, right?

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by IHeartBoog on Nov 19, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Baseball writers for MVP & CY

Managers for GG and SS

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by martimeryard on Nov 19, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

there goes that idea

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

he does make a decently compelling argument for Pujols.

I doubt he wins, and he won’t be cheated if he doesn’t (ala 2006…), but he has as strong of argument as any player. Leach does a good job at pointing out specific reasons why.

If he doesn’t win, he’ll just have more motivation to bounce back after his “down” year…ludicrous.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 19, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I think if you just look at the home runs and runs scored

and then up the home run number on Pujols since he plays at Busch, and there you go

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

i'd say he was cheated in '06...

Howard – .436 wOBA, 58 HRs, 6.5 fWAR, 5.6 bWAR
Pujols – .448 wOBA, 49 HRs, 8.3 fWAR, 7.0 bWAR

Citizens Bank is also a huge hitter’s park…. Pujols was the better hitter without adding in the parks and a better defender (+ for Pujols, – for Howard)….

he got absolutely fucked – Howard had better HRs, RBIs and that I think was it… granted Howard had a great season but Pujols had a better one

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 19, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

That one still hurts a little.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 19, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Felix won the Cy

so I guess I/we shouldn’t be that surprised if Pujols does win.

I thought I told you to trim those sideburns!

by martimeryard on Nov 19, 2010 3:39 PM EST reply actions  

reply fail

I thought I told you to trim those sideburns!

by martimeryard on Nov 19, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Breaking News!!!

Ok, not really.

Drayton McLane is selling the Astros.

Link to CrawfishBoxes

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Nov 19, 2010 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

saw that

let’s buy them, and make them even worse

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think it's possible to do a worse job.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 19, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

We could make them our AAAA farm club

That’s legal, right? It’d make all NL divisions 5 teams each….

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Nov 19, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

sure, we could send them Stav and crew

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

the poster mentions

how their post about the barmes trade reached over 100 comments. Our tuesday post went over 1000.

Poor astros fans.

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Nov 19, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

The question is,

did we have 100 baseball related comments in that thread?

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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 19, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

touche, sir!

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Nov 19, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

not that ther's anything wrong with that.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 19, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

lord, now we're back to the airport scanners.

stupid lack of an accented “e”

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Nov 19, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you looking for

this guy – é? Cause you can get that by holding ALT then typing 0233. Most of those accented characters are gotten from ALT + 4digit code, and I used that one in French class a lot, so I remember it.

Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM

by Choix003 on Nov 19, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Accent Grave?

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 19, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

The posted is accent aigu, I believe

or acute accent, as it’s usually called these days.

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 19, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

What do we do with bud norris?

He has no future in a non-cardinals competition world.

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Nov 19, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

ship him to asia

so we never have to face him again

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by scoot on Nov 19, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

he could be a Ham Fighter.

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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 19, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Why fight the ham,

when you can be a ham lover?

"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy

by hazel on Nov 19, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it crazy to anyone else that Upton and Grienke are

both being shopped? They are the faces of their franchise or at least their best players and are signed to under market deals.

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 19, 2010 5:35 PM EST reply actions  

nothing the d-backs do surprises me anymore.

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by IHeartBoog on Nov 19, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

well, the Cards were rumored to be shopping Rasmus

but then again, there’s a very special journalist out there.

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Release the unicorns...

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Nov 19, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Excellent...

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by The MooCow on Nov 19, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I really thought the outrighting of Stav would be big news here

I’m disappointed VEB

Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)

by mattyfrommo on Nov 19, 2010 6:02 PM EST reply actions  

they all must be out partying

time to break out the good Scotch

Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)

by mattyfrommo on Nov 19, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Addition by subtraction.

Profit! (Amidoinitrite?)

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 19, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

being off the 40 is baby steps enough for me

Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)

by mattyfrommo on Nov 19, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

he has to pass through waivers

and may be able to elect free agency

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twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 19, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

don't try to ruin this for me dammit!

HE’S FUCKING GONE!

HE’S FUCKING GONE!


HE’S FUCKING GONE!

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 19, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

doesn't look like the moves were reported here
Ottavino, S. Hill, Stavinhoha and Daryl Jones outrighted off Cards’ 40-man. Bad day for #hpgf. Blake King, Tony Cruz on. Cards set at 36.

http://twitter.com/#!/JoeStrauss/status/5754839111827456

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by prophetjohn on Nov 19, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

i thought he was referring to Jones when he dropped the #hpgf

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by gdm426 on Nov 19, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

F YOU ENTER BUTTON

here’s the tweet i was talking about

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 19, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

eh-hem.....excuse me.....

Joe Strauss is an asshat.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 19, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

how could i forget to mention

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by prophetjohn on Nov 19, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

follow up twit from Strauss
King would have been vulnerable to Rule 5 if not added. Expect to see Cards’ add player to assume Stavy role

link
Can’t wait for the Matt Stairs signing.

by ubeddie on Nov 19, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

matt stairs?

i was expecting a signing more like this

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by prophetjohn on Nov 19, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

theoretically allen craig can fulfill this role 90% of the time

pragmatically mark hamilton is a better hitter than stav who could also suck as an outfielder, if called upon to do so.

by DanUpBaby on Nov 19, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Can't Hill basically do that as well?

Not sure what the point of booting him was since, at 36, there aren’t really 4 more players more useful than Hill that are exposed.

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by hazel on Nov 19, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Hill surprises me.....

so we have 1 catcher between AA and AAA now?

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Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 19, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

only if someone claims hill

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twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 19, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

can he elect free agency?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 19, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

i think he would have to be out of options

if he’s out of options, he can either go to the minors or elect free agency

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twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 19, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

cots' definition - outright assignments
A player assigned outright to the minor leagues for the first time in his career must accept the assignment. Thereafter, a player has the choice of 1) rejecting the assignment and becoming a free agent immediately, or 2) accepting the assignment and become a free agent at the end of the season if he has not been returned to the 40-man roster.

A player who’s had six years with the organization can file for minor league free agency – Pags, Kinney

by ubeddie on Nov 19, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

me too

back up catcher is both hide-able and necessary

i’m expecting him to get picked up by someone

by YesWeOquendo on Nov 19, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Glad they added Cruz

DJ sure fell fast from being in the Futures game just 18 months ago

by ubeddie on Nov 19, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

because

they don’t expect anyone to claim him in the rule V draft and keep him on their 25-man roster all season

i would think it’s possible, though

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twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 19, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Just saw it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 19, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Stavinoha

now set up the anti-stav wards on the roster

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

good riddance!

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

my family is currently blaring xmas music

this must be what a level of Dante’s Inferno feels like

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 19, 2010 6:19 PM EST reply actions  

i never went to college

i had quasi good news today too & then i get home & they let into me about $$$$ & shit. i can’t believe how much they hate me. it’s shocking considering everything i’ve done for them.

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 19, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

i think i have a solution to your problem....just hear me out.

find a rich woman and marry her. problem solved.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Nov 19, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

yay! drunk IHB is back!

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 19, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

not around here it's not

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 19, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i am drinking some tea

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 19, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Stav outrighter

FOR GREAT JUSTICE

Fire John Mozeliak

by purple_haze on Nov 19, 2010 7:18 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

We'll Always Have that From-The-Knees HR...

:=8)

We should cowpile a list of greatest mooments from seldom used, released Cards as a moomorial to the small things they did to help the team – even if they were really small.

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 19, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

i was at that game, sitting behind home plate!

its actually a decent story, I had tickets to the game and I was taking a train in from Chicago. I was cutting it close, and was going to arrive just barely in time for the game but the train got stopped for hours due to a murder investigation going on on the train tracks. I ended up missing most of the game and arriving only in the ninth, to find us down with Nick Stavinoha on deck. I remember yelling “Where the fuck is Allen Craig?”. You all know what happened next though…

Fire John Mozeliak

by purple_haze on Nov 19, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

SSS

"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy

by hazel on Nov 19, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a stereotype.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 19, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

one might even say racist

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 19, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I still Wanna Keep Jones...

:=8(

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 19, 2010 8:34 PM EST reply actions  

we still have jones

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twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 19, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone will take him and I will get a sad...

:=8(

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 19, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

you think he's gonna last on a big league roster all year?

rule V requires the player to stay with the claiming team all year on the 25-man roster. if they want to demote him, they have to offer him back to the team that claimed him first

for instance, we claimed that lefty from the reds last season, but he didn’t make the team out of spring, so he went back

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 19, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Have u Seen the Astros Outfield???

:=8/

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 19, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

is jones gonna replace lee, bourn or pence?

they’ve got a pretty okay outfield

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 19, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

the dude put up a .324 wOBA in AA last year

i don’t think he’s getting claimed

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 19, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

The Mets?

The Royals? The Indians? The Mariners?

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 19, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Can any 1 even name who plays for Seattle in Left??

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 19, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

KC starts GREGOR BLANCO & MITCH MAIER!

MITCH MAIER!!!!!!!

:=8O

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 19, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Saunders?

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 20, 2010 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Michael Saunders

And I did not cheat thank you very much!

Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.

by mtzxc on Nov 20, 2010 1:48 AM EST up reply actions  

so, why did we not get a shot at perdomo?

i thought he went to waivers is why

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Nov 19, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Such Promise...so Many Tools...

….Look! He still sparkles, you just have to dust him off a bit..see?? SEE??? Don’t toss him away NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
:=8O

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 19, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Awwww.....

He was gonna be my Bernard Gilkey 2.0 Now With Moar Toolsiness…

:=8(

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 19, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I would not be shocked if a team picked him up

But unless he gets red hot in spring I don’t see how any team is gonna put him on their roster to start the year. Like PJ said, dude has been awful in AA. Although, he’s still only what? 23? And he’s got plenty of talent. If no one picks him up or he gets returned to us, what are the chances he plays in Memphis this year? Or have the Cardinals pretty much given up on him at this point?

by mick311 on Nov 19, 2010 9:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

they won't release him

for awhile anyways

Fire John Mozeliak

by purple_haze on Nov 19, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

it's looking pretty bad for Daryl Jones, cow

please don’t be sad if he never makes it to the majors.

Fire John Mozeliak

by purple_haze on Nov 19, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

He'll always be (one of) the one(s) who got away.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 19, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he just needs to be pushed moore....

…I say start him in Memphis and see cow he does – can’t hurt….

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 22, 2010 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

i always have to look up Andy or Adam

to remember which one sucks more.

…its definitely Andy.

Fire John Mozeliak

by purple_haze on Nov 19, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I had the same problem for a long time.

I was kind of interested in Andy when we were apparently looking at him after Freese’s ankles collapsed.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 19, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Andy Laroche is kind of like a TV show everyone likes

but I watch it and think it’s ok but it’s just ok. If I never watch this again I’ll be ok.

That being said I wouldn’t mind a ML deal just to see.

by Harknights on Nov 19, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

who likes Andy LaRoche?

He fluked his way into one decent season and has been sub-replacement level the rest of his career.

Fire John Mozeliak

by purple_haze on Nov 19, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

i must really be subconsciously missing baseball & david eckstein

i’m home for thanksgiving break (yay for having all of next week off!) and brought home some extra clothes for the week. the majority of those shirts? various redbirds wear. heck, i even played mvp 2005 for a while today.

would anyone be interested in bringing eck back? he played 2B for the padres last year…

by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 19, 2010 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

if the price is right

better spare than the grit

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Nov 20, 2010 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

that would not be overly odd for me

my fashion sense is basically Cards/De Smet/Mizzou shirt with gym shorts (away from school)

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 20, 2010 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

same

except rockhurst stuff for mizzou stuff.

Kyle Lohse has a No-Trade Clause.

by BVHeck on Nov 20, 2010 5:06 AM EST up reply actions  

wait.

for = replacing

Kyle Lohse has a No-Trade Clause.

by BVHeck on Nov 20, 2010 5:07 AM EST up reply actions  

It's probably too late for a reminder, but Scouting For Food is tomorrow.

Well, today I guess. If you can, set out a few thing for the little ankle biters to schlep.

Here’s what the STL BSA calls “The Perfect Bag”
2 cans of hearty soup, stew or chili: Supplies many nutrients.
2 cans of tuna, chicken, salmon or luncheon meat (e.g., Spam): Contains protein and iron. Canned salmon is a source of calcium and omega-3 fatty acids.
1 can of fruit: Supplies vitamins A and C, folate, potassium, fiber and other healthy substances.
1 can of 100 percent pure fruit juice: Contains vitamin C and often beta carotene.
1 can of vegetables: Supplies beta carotene, vitamin C, folate, complex carbohydrates, fiber and potassium.
1 can of tomato or pasta sauce: Contains lycopene, a healthy substance that is more available to your body in canned and cooked tomatoes than in fresh.
1 canned meal: Offers a variety of ingredients and nutrients.
1 can of beans: Contains plenty of protein, complex carbohydrates and fiber.
1 can of evaporated milk: Makes an excellent source of calcium and protein.

But whatever you can spare would be appreciated, I’m sure.

Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.

by The Continental on Nov 20, 2010 1:40 AM EST reply actions  

used to be in the Scouts and let me just say

running around to people’s houses grabbing canned foods in cold weather wasn’t fun… that wasn’t why i quit … moreso from just being super lazy and with no motivation to get eagle…

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 20, 2010 2:16 AM EST up reply actions  

it was ok

i felt like nothing was accomplished at the end tho

Kyle Lohse has a No-Trade Clause.

by BVHeck on Nov 20, 2010 5:09 AM EST up reply actions  

It's not a documentary, it's fiction.

Mark Zuckerburg wasn’t anti-social.

I thought this was a good account of why the movie (while entertaining) wasn’t realisitic in a lot of ways, including its portrait of Harvard.

http://www.slate.com/id/2269308/

by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 20, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

if itd come cheap

y not take a flyer for backup

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on Nov 20, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

incase freese ankles fall off?

I mean, he’s better than feliz right?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Nov 20, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

He's at least younger than Feliz.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 20, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

feliz hasn't posted a 94 OPS + since Jeff Kent was hitting in front of him in 04

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 20, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

was joking.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 20, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

that shit doesn't fly around here, sir

this is serious business!!

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 20, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

How serious can it be when they keep letting gdm in here?

/j/k gdm

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 20, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

not so 6 obvy

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Nov 20, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

You should theft proofed your car by putting a belly pan on it.

Totally kidding. Sorry to hear about that, Flim. One more reason I’ll stay where I am. I have five dogs that would chew their arms off before they got near it.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 20, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I have a pit bull and was in a bank parking lot

I also have a .45 cal gun. I was thinking of buying a Cat Lock for it. I have 2 security camera’s but of course one not on my car at the time. Setting up another one.

by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 20, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

That's impressive that they were that ballsy.

Can you just biometric your car so that anybody else that touches it gets the crap shocked out of them?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 20, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

that is illegal I looked into back in 2000 when I had my 4 radio stolen

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 20, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

That's entirely too bad.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 20, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

what?

who steals a catalytic converter?

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 20, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

They contain platinum and can be sold to scrappers for a good few bucks.

Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.

by The Continental on Nov 20, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

There's a ring running around up here.....

they have cordless sawzalls and hit the dealerships and fleet lots. $100 a cat X 100 cars, makes for a profitable evening.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 21, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

don’t understand or like the other moves though

by redbirds34 on Nov 20, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

actually

no one will take Stavinoha in the rule V draft, so we’ll probably still have him. dammit

by redbirds34 on Nov 20, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe someone will be fooled by his 300 AAA batting av

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 20, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

best birthday present

the cards have ever given me!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Nov 20, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

no

they’ve never won a world series on my birthday

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Nov 20, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

They traded Duncan on mine.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 21, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Julio Lugo: Best present ever.

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 21, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Stavinoha

Hill, And Ottavino have been outridged to Memphis and are exposed to the the Rule 5 Draft.

Please someone, grab Stavinoha.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Nov 20, 2010 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101119&content_id=16163248&vkey=news_stl&c_id=stl

And Daryl Jones, and Steve Hill.

Tony Cruz and Blake King were added.

Remove 4 to add 2? Especially Ottavino, who I think would be the most likely to be taken in the draft.

by redbirds34 on Nov 20, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Please someone, grab Stavinoha.

They better lift with their legs.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 20, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

For you cards fans who remember the pre veb days

Steve Lombardozzi’s son drove in one of the Rockies prospects last night in the AFL championship game

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 20, 2010 5:34 PM EST reply actions  

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