Understanding dFAWARP: A Primer
With the GM Meetings still quiet I want to spend a little more time on something I attempted to remove, yesterday, from my conception of Brendan Ryan's value. That is, that he's a fun player to watch, whereas watching Skip Schumaker does absolutely nothing for me. (If you're looking for more Hot Stove-y talk, SB Nation St. Louis is currently running a Top Five that could be relevant to your interests.)
A player's relative funness is a difficult concept to measure, in part because it's not a real concept but also because a team can accumulate fun-points—hereafter Fun-ness Above Wins Above A Replacement Player, or FAWARP—and still end up being a terrible team to watch. To a certain extent, as with Brendan Ryan, I'm willing to trade wins because I'm watching baseball to enjoy it, and he makes baseball more enjoyable to watch.
So long as the team maintains a balance of fun and time-in-contention—I call this the Major League zone—all that FAWARP is being put to good use. Brendan Ryan is a lot of fun on a team that's winning. But fall too far out of contention—I call this the Major League: Back to the Minors zone—and all that FAWARP will only make you angry. Brendan Ryan will be one Joe Mather Bro Talk away from jumping from the top of the team hotel.
With that caveat in mind, here are my own FAWARP calculations—you can call this dFAWARP; fFAWARP is more concerned with how much fun a player should be, given his peripherals—for the 2011 Cardinals as they exist now. Going around the horn:
C Yadier Molina: 1.5 dFAWARP. What's not to like about Yadier Molina? He seems really happy to be playing baseball about 95% of the time, and the other five percent of the time he is incredibly pissed off at Brandon Phillips, which is also good. He's the master of the pick-off play, one of the most exciting plays in baseball, he likes to steal bases despite being really slow, which is another positive, and he's defused the most common flaw of the ostensibly fun-to-watch catcher by also becoming a competent hitter.
His upside is limited by his propensity to hit into the double play, but he's definitely one of the most enjoyable catchers in the National League.
1B Albert Pujols: 6.0 dFAWARP. This is definitely a case where dFAWARP and fFAWARP diverge. fFAWARP sees a funny accent, which is a plus, as well as the fearless baserunning and his Musialian aura of good-guyness, but docks him for the angst-inducing injury concerns and the coming decline questions and contract negotiations. I understand all those, and once his peripherals even out Pujols might be in for a major FAWARP drop.
But for the moment, Albert Pujols is so fun to watch entirely because he's so good. When he declines he could go negative in a hurry, because nobody likes to watch as superstars turn into stars, or stars into regulars. If he leaves for New York or Boston, he might cause everybody's FAWARP to crater, and I'll have to quit here and start making Harry Potter references on a Harry Potter website, instead, which would be disorienting.
2B Skip Schumaker: -0.5 dFAWARP. I'm told his wFAWARP is much higher.
Schumaker peaked around 1.0 dFAWARP, when he made that novel transition from the outfield to second base, but as a second baseman who hit an empty .270 and couldn't really play defense he got unappealing in a hurry.
Schumaker's tlrFAWARP is extremely high, which showcases a fundamental difference in the way our systems handle grittiness and a can-do attitude. Analysts who value that kind of low-key, blue-collar heroism in players find Schumaker's move to be an inspiring case of doing the right thing, and while I admire the work he's put in... it's great that this dog has learned how to talk, but last year he wasn't very good at it.
I've noticed of late that his increasing tlrFAWARP has had negative effects on his vebFAWARP; more research is necessary.
3B David Freese: 0.0 dFAWARP. David Freese exemplifies what Dave and Bustermetricians call Funplacement Level. His star turn in those local Sonic commercials is balanced by the concern that his leg might explode at any moment.
SS Brendan Ryan: 2.0 dFAWARP. Definitely the top mortal in the Cardinals clubhouse, Brendan Ryan exemplifies all the qualities that can raise one's dFAWARP. He's instantly recognizable and unique on the field, having sported, variously, a mustache and high-socks and played Gold Glove defense in a way that's not only competent but especially exciting. He's starred in webisodes that weren't awkward and is always prepared to give an unexpectedly entertaining post-game interview.
There's always the concern, however, that the desire to maintain his dFAWARP might negatively impact it. When he struggles, and his interviews turn sullen and worried, his dFAWARP falls precipitously; when partner-in-webisodes Joe Mather is traded the team's collective Pythagorean Fun Differential is sapped in a way it wouldn't be if Brendan Ryan were just Adam Everett.
LF Matt Holliday: 0.5 dFAWARP. Researchers at the Post-Dispatch's Cards Talk forum drew our attention, last May, to what they understood to be massive amounts of negative-fun radiating from left field, but the sabermetric community has condemned these findings as insubstantial. The peer-reviewed Small Sample Size journal concluded that,
"Definitely a small sample size."
(I'd like to apologize to the Small Sample Size journal for reprinting the entirety of that article.) Holliday's positive dFAWARP stems from the way in which he is surprisingly good at everything. He's a surprisingly graceful baserunner; he's a surprisingly solid defensive outfielder, for the most part; and despite his vicious, almost unhinged swing he's a line-drive hitter, and not a swinger-for-the-fences.
CF Colby Rasmus: -0.5 dFAWARP. I love that Colby Rasmus is a member of the Cardinals, but at this moment there's so much uncertainty that the projections can't drawn an accurate picture of his likely fun-production. He's had vague and worrisome injury problems for a youngster, which are always a drag on enjoyability, and his status as the MacGuffin in a long-standing, team-threatening tug of war between the field management, the business management, and certain would-be muckrakers at the Post-Dispatch makes him, at times, exhausting to watch.
A number of fun coaches have suggested, in addition, that he learn to sell it; I would agree with their conclusions.
RF: Jon Jay (0.5 dFAWARP) and Allen Craig (1.0 dFAWARP). If I were a gambling man, and this were something people gambled on, I would sell high on Allen Craig's dFAWARP, as much as I plan to enjoy watching him as the short end of a platoon in right field. Craig is so exciting to watch precisely because it's taken so long for us to be able to watch him. Once he's off the milk carton—and provided he doesn't go off for yet another .900 OPS season at a new level—he's just a nice, cheap, unassuming hitter with defensive problems.
Okay, until David Freese's leg explodes.
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Where’s Big Sweat fall on the list?
Can we get an analysis of board members?
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
went through the roof when he donned the lucha mask
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
picture
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so then I might be contributing to fun as well?
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
to VEB's FAWARP?
that is likely. to the Cardinals? not even you can help them.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
The way Chambers is lighting up the AFL
with all his leadoff type offense should give him a pretty high FAWARP.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
we should work on his NAR
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Adron Prospect
and the Chambers of League Splits.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
nice...
it really rolls off the tounge.
by the time the announcer is doen the at bat will be over.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
How in the hell have I never seen this before???
I can’t help feel as though I’ve failed myself somehow.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
you have.
there’s also a manip with Cardinals colors.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Yup, you're welcome.

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 17, 2010 6:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Too awesome for words.
Well, other than the word “awesome”.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
oh, I forgot
when he batted for himself, and was revealed as a right-handed batter
it was the game that was forgettable.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Seems all pretty WARPed to me...
:=8/
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
Fun post.
What would the FAWARP look like for Scott Spiezio?
by vinniefromjersey on Nov 16, 2010 6:32 AM EST reply actions
...

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Nov 16, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
he's clean now, right?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
That's the word.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
naturally I disagree on Yadi's dFAWARP
- too low.
- Colby should have a higher fFAWARP, right? he’s smooth and all. however, I think his interviews are slowly inching up his dFAWARP, though I may be in the minority here.
- and you could always make baseball references on a Harry Potter website. hurry before Emma Watson becomes… oh. never mind.
- 2009’s FAWARP was through the roof. it ruined projections going forward, but it also wiped out recollections of 2007 and 2008.
- due to general insanity, bullpens may need an adjusted stat for FAWARP, but it may go the way of UZR in perceived efficacy — how do you measure a cooler scooter vs. an out-of-control goat beard? and then there’s Jason Motte.
- sometimes it’s better to stick to FAWARP that’s adjusted to park factors. off-the-field is just… yeah.
- Adam Wainwright is clearly the secret FAWARP booster of the entire team. the only
- new-to-VEBers should also check out the DAR stat. we’re frickin innovators, we are.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
^ the only man who can make fun of Chris Carpenter to his face, and live.
during starts, no less.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
This!
To me, Yadi is the player with the most dFAWARP. Next is Boog. Next is Motte.
I am sure the Walrus can play RF...
Motte is a lot like Brian Wilson
but instead of being “quirky, television-personality” crazy, he’s just regular old batshit insane.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
Yeah Motte has that...
I don’t want to say the wrong thing because he’ll scream obscenities at people/gloves type crazy.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
that's it, if you want our FARWARP to sky-rocket
get rid of the FARWARP black holes in Miles (who single-handedly negates Albert’s dFARWARP), and Stav. Franklin must also be in the negative overall although 2010 boosted his stat a bit and sign Brian Wilson, sit him next to Motte and watch the bullpen fireworks
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
^-R damn americans and your abbreviations
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
you want me to say FACT, don't you
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
engage the FarWarp drive!
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Also, we once talked about
Nickname-ability Above Replacement, or NAR
I am sure the Walrus can play RF...
Nickname Potential & Nickname Prowess
is an important part of Sheckie’s FAWARP measurement.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Prowess? players have no control over their nicknames
once they put it in play, it’s all luck and manstew.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
You don't think Hollidome has carefully cultivated/sculpted his lego shaped head...
solely to up his NAR? So naive…
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
that's not the head we're talking about
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
wait
what
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
also, glossary.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
(I’d like to apologize to the Small Sample Size journal for reprinting the entirety of that article.)
love this joke
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Nov 16, 2010 8:36 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
He's on our team factor(hootf)
Carp demonstrates that the stat needs to be refined to reflect the fact that he is on our team, and not another team. His dFAWAWP (or whatever) is high because he is a Cardinal, and if he were on another team, he would tie Phillips.
Colby once again has his rating lowered by the presence of a parent.
by Remember Kenny B on Nov 16, 2010 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
sometimes you just can't leave your kid and his FAWARP unattended
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
this needs a babydaddy punchline
right? i’m running low on coffee
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
i would have scored holliday a little higher
if nothing more than for the surprising revelation that i actually like watching him play
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
his score took a nice jump at the end of the season
when i saw him hustlin’ his giant noggin off, even after we were out of contention
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Early on his, dFAWARP took a beating when he came up with RISP.
It took a while to overcome that.
OTOH, his NAR is stratospheric.
Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.
by The Continental on Nov 16, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, he's good
and he’s hit home runs the last two cardinal games I’ve been too, this boosts him in my book
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
OT: dipping tagalongs into coffee isn't the breakfast of champions.
But it is freakin delicious.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
i had a hot phenomenal ham-egg-cheddar bagel for breakfast
and i never have breakfast
now all i want is to eat breakfast all the time – i’ll be 600 lbs in no time
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
I prefer Somoas as my girl scout cookie of choice
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
by azruavatar on Nov 16, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ummm...
I never heard of a ham-egg-cheddar bagel girl scout cookie before…
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
we should make it happen
and if it sells, maybe VEB can sign Boog and donate him to the Cardinals
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
i prefer the thinmints.
These were given to me and were sitting at my desk when the thought entered my head. Between that and the soda I need to run an extra mile tomorrow.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Thinmints in the freezer
Best. Snack. Ever.
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
by avs18fan on Nov 16, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I disagree....
thin mints crumbled on vanilla ice cream with Hershey’s syrup.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Never tried that...
but WOW does that sound delicious.
dammit.
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
I'm pretty sure it's not healthy,
but I’m going to die anyway, so what the hell.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Nov 16, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Chips Ahoy with Heath Bar Toffee Chips...
I swear they are crack in cookie form…
:=8.
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
^ This is correct.
Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.
by The Continental on Nov 16, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
rec'd. but its samoa.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Keebler is selling a similar cookie at the grocery store right now.
It’s not a 100% copy in flavor. More like 98%. I wish I’d never seen them.
and i wish you had never told me this.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Is it possible to have a high rating...
and be a negative player? (see Marvelous Marvin).
There was some real entertainment!
What kind of rating would Bo Hart have or Rex Hudler?
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
Well, right off the bat
Hurricane has a positive NAR.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 16, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
How about Manny?
Some people think he’s fun. I’m not one of them but they’re out there.
I wonder if the ratings would vary among regions.
How much fun would Boog be in pinstripes?
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Nov 16, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
.................is he replacing Derek Jeter?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
The Yankees PR department
would never allow an actual defensively competent player to immediately follow The Captain onto the field, because it would completely undermine their efforts to make Jeter appear to be the most awesome SS in, like, American League history!
Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.
Rex Hudler was pure entertainment
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
and not a bad player either.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
you bet!
We could use the Wonder Dog now.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Nov 16, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
No way.
He had one decent season for us. He was terrible the other two seasons. Terrible. Those two seasons make Aaron Miles’s OBP look good.
I mean for the fun.
He’s more fun than Miles.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on Nov 16, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
gosh, you're right.
Those teams just sucked sooo bad I guess I didn’t notice. Seriously, I was left rooting for Jose DeLeon and Felix Jose.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
we can't really discuss 2010 FAWARP
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 9:26 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
If you blow up those pics of Freese and Lego really big,
you can see what d-dee looks like, reflected in their eyes. Of course, she has a camera in front of her face….
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 16, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
d-dee's fanpost
has an incredibly high FAWARP
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
speaking of fun...
the best thing about this picture is it’s not photoshopped
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Repainting for the Northwestern-Illinois game?
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
yup
apparently they’ve never heard of vinyl decals.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
are they made of money?
who can spend so much to make something so tacky?
I guess it’s true. the cubs don’t understand bunting.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Maybe they're hoping this injures the stadium
so the state has to give them the money for renovations OR builds them a new stadium.
(They can’t threaten to move to Tampa like the White Sox did.)
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
they're going to get some anyway, to "preserve" Wrigley
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Wrigley
Can’t stand the team that plays there but seeing that done to Wrigley Field is almost painful.
by WizardofOz1982 on Nov 17, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
FAWARP could have been
just FARP, but I guess if you wanted to introduce a Fun-ness Above Replacement Team measure, things could have gotten a little awkward…
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
by d-dee on Nov 16, 2010 9:43 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Great post!
Really enjoyed this one. Excellent work. I would increase Yadi’s fun value (maybe due to a “post season hero factor” that you could add which is why So Taguchiand Speizio were still somewhat fun to watch after the ’06 season), and decrease Holliday to neutral (I just have some sort of irrational indifference to that guy).
Any chance you rate the Pitchers on FAWARP too?
i think Skip's wFAWARP is an illusion
since it seems to be directly correlated to his lack of shirt
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
he does
keep his shirt on. it’s not his fault it keeps wanting to come off.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
ended up in bed with a girl last night, which was wierd.
highly surreal experience, i had no idea wtf i was doing
VEB's only queer since '09
to stay on-topic, you must post your FAWARP.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
what was her FAWARP?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
me neither
so did she know what to do
and more importantly, is this likely to be revisited by you?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
We didn't DO alot
but she knew what she was doing.
I’m still more of a man’s man though… if you know what i mean
VEB's only queer since '09
man's man?
Like a switch hitter?
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
i think in theory every thing still works
If she seems to like something, keep doing it. If she doesn’t, don’t do that. The plumbing is different so you have to use different techniques… But the concept is fairly similar. (i think, I only bat from the right side, not the left.)
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
After reading your sig
I do.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
a missed that
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
I look forward to gdm reading this thread.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 16, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
I didn't want to say anything
that was my first thought
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
how can you be sure your tagline is accurate
especially as a limey you ought to be sensitive to the myriad of ways one might be called a queer fellow
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Tagline is defintely not accurate.
I’ve been around for a while… just not so much lately.
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
Still barking up the wrong tree, I see.
by spants on Nov 16, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
the nice thing about playing offense
and defense is that every tree deserves at least a sniff
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
by TomCat009 on Nov 16, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it was everything you imagined & so much more
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Well it confuses me
Did he kill the other ones?
by sdrone on Nov 16, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HIGHLANDER
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
After his experiences last night
He may have to adjust his queerness-over-straight numbers to account for the bedroom environment.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
It's not the size of the sample that counts.
It’s how you project it.
HEY-OHHHH!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 16, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 11 recs
i get it
i like guys too
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
by d-dee on Nov 16, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
as somebody with thirty years experience being one,
I don’t get it
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Nobody does.
I find it’s alot like NASCAR. Just keep turning left.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
completely untrue
Damn basement dwellers.
Anyway, it takes practice, take notes and study.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
In bed.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
by TBender on Nov 16, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that is an excellent in bed reference and i will rec it damn it
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
I thought "in bed"
was applied in this situation.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Yeah. I thought it was assumed
that is why i was talking about NASCAR!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Implied?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 16, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
yes. Implied
applied also works. As in, the note taking and studying was to be applied in bed.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Girl-on-girl
alright!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 16, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
wait...
you’re a girl? See! It ain’t easy pleasing women!
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
see, that's what I thought
but then you went with ISawGodInGibby’sRightArm started threw the girl-on-girl curve and I was completely out in front.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
sarchasm
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
yes
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 16, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Mixed metaphors
your crossing the international punchline
VEB's only queer since '09
by Aranathor on Nov 16, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
btw, were you arond when i got taken apart here
for calling sth gay?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
In gibby's defense several gay friends refer to each other as ladies or girls
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
You get me!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 16, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
so this has to be asked:
how does a gay man in (ireland?) become a st. louis cardinals fan?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
theres a fanpost about this!
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Nov 16, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
people just don't use that search function
tsk
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
how could i have possibly known that there would be a fan post about how a gay eurpoean becomes a cardinals fan
is there a fan post for EVERYTHING?
is there a fanpost for how you keep up with all the tweets despite having no twitter account?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
your just not ahead of the curve like the rest of us
but thats a very good question about Y2S…
VEB's only queer since '09
i explained it
ON VEB.
I suspect CodyG just uses it as an excuse to hang around my basement window (I SEE YOU, CODY. [EYEBALL SIGN])
so my point on searching stands. also this Doubt of VEB is troubling. very troubling.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
He used to be a Cubs fan
But even the Irish eventually get tired of drinking that much.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 16, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oh snap
y’all dun it now
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 16, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Psh, I dunno
I just went with it. It was funny in my head!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
if you really wanted to get him going
you would have said “irish, scottish, british? wazza diffrance!”
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 16, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
I'm having trouble getting this out of my head...
ironic?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Yeah, they all talk funny and have a Queen (well, not the Irish, whatever dood!)
Amirite???//
Actually I find I’m pretty decent at separating accents, at least by nationality. Don’t ask me if a Scottish person is from Glasgow or Edinburgh or something like that.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
England has some pretty serious regional accents going on
Broad yorkshire =/= scouse
VEB's only queer since '09
Yeah, I won't even pretend to say I know them
I imagine it’s something like the regional accents in the U.S., only intensified and crammed into a smaller area. With slang that makes it almost unintelligible for outsiders.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
everybody forgets the welsh
VEB's only queer since '09
by Aranathor on Nov 16, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, apparently red dragons aren't awesome enough to remember them
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Also, out of curiosity
I did a Google Image search of “Welsh” hoping to find some pictures of the Welsh alphabet. I mostly got pictures of corgis, the flag, and some delicious looking cheesy thing which turned out to be Welsh rarebit. I had heard of it before but knew nothing about it. Now I wanna try some.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Go to the scottish arms
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanfairpwllgwyngyll
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 16, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
that is considered an easily pronounceable welsh word
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
of course
llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch is part of my daily vocabulary
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 16, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
and in fairness the locals call it
Llan..aw fuck it
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
also Catherine Zed Jones
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Uh oh...
And you thought Cards-Cubs was a rivalry…
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
Yeah, I maybe had inadvertently sparked an diplomatic crisis.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Toons!!!!!!!!!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
In my own personal FAWARP
David Freese has a high level. But only because I played this prior to every AB and after he made any sort of above-normal play.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
And let's be honest...
any time he made a normal play, anytime his sonic commericals came on. And anytime on VEB that he was mentioned…
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
this is veb-inflated.
one has to factor in the distortion of the numbers. gifs alone…
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
David Freese is bolstered highly by Arnold.
Joel Schumacher is finally good for something.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Psh, Joel Schumacher is a replacement filmmaker!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
he's probably a below replacement filmmaker
he’s like the Pagz Lite of major filmmaking
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
That's a bit generous, don't you think?
The whole “Nipples on the batsuit” fiasco should push him into the negatives in my opinion. Not even Alicia Silverstone’s batgirl costume could make up for that.
I object to anyone in a batman mask being "funplacement."
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Nov 16, 2010 11:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Per mlbtraderumors.com
This has a good amount of YUCK, and some GOOD to it. But mostly yuck.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
theres no new info here
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Nov 16, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
i know, i know.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
creepy unicorns...
always getting in my VEB….
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
Strauss has a souce
who believes Pujols “is unlikely to revisit the matter once the 2011 season opens.”
I wonder who that source could be?
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
i know right, i thought the exact same thing
Albert Pujols: “World, I don’t do contract talk during the season”
Joe Strauss: “I have a super secret source that talks only to me who says Albert is unlikely to revisit..” argh fuck you Strauss
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Couldn't this just be Strauss really wanting to be right and banking on AP resiging to make that happen?
I mean, if Albert resigns, then they wouldn’t have any cause to revisit contract negotiations during the season.
Also, rumblings are that Colby will play baseball next season, either for or not for the Cardinals.
We can do uninformed speculation here, too.
you are talking about the same strauss
that said a week ago that chances were less than fifty percent that albert resigns with us, right?
you realize what kind of a person strauss is? he just wants his name out there at whatever price
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
I'm just making a sad attempt to be clever, really.
Though I wouldn’t put it past Strauss to claim some sort of prophetic victory if AP is resigned, using the above rationale.
Also, the momentum has totally run out for a Westbrook deal
Oh wait, now it looks like it’s back.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Or maybe that was Rosenthal...
Whatevs.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
mlbtraderumors is re-tweeting Strauss.
there goes that resource. delete. cue the unicorn.
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
My Dan Uggla trade proposal
Bryan Anderson + Lance Lynn + maybe a reliever like Motte if necessary.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
Id prefer to give up Boggs than Motte
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
me too.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
keep Boggs
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
okay, Boggs then
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Nov 16, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
I'd rather hold on to Motte by virtue of the very statistic created by DanUp in this topic.
I don’t see any scenario in which Boggs is more fun to watch than Motte. Even if Motte’s bad, he’s mercurially bad, in a can’t-look-away sort of way. Boggs is just dull.
it's Hawksworth
that has the hot sister right?
by WyoCardsFan on Nov 16, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Erin Hawsworth, everyone (sorry for the obvious photoshopping)

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Nov 16, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
what
she doesn’t naturally emit celestial light?
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 16, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
after some deliberation, I used the subject line.
link-to. something about that is rather wrong.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
As photoshopping goes, this is pretty innocuous
I mean, at least she hasn’t herself been altered to look like some sort of creepy Barbie doll. Her arms actually look like they are made of human flesh, and you can see a couple moles on her face.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
but she looks like some creepy Barbie doll.
and if that’s not photoshopped… I dunno.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
you could photoshop in my bed...
that’d be alright.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
I meant...
her in my bed…
not that my bed could be used for photoshop projects…
everything gets all screwe up speaking through this mask.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
by Red Blazer on Nov 16, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i didn't think she was that hot this morning
i’ve since had a day of classes and i still don’t think she’s all that hot
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
Now if Skip had a sister, Spants might think about taking a trip
in to Berkman territory
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Victor Martinez? Aaron Miles?
Chipper Jones? Mickey Mantle? Carlos Beltran?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
i don't get it either
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
SWITCH HITTERS...
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
Yeah, I have a Twitter...big whoop...wanna fight about it?
but see, that's not the first thing that comes to mind
when you think of Lance Berkman
and his territory.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I know I was just tired of reading this thread
so I though I would help out…
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
Yeah, I have a Twitter...big whoop...wanna fight about it?
i'm gonna leave before the topic turns to his territory
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
if you google search her
i lost my train of thought…. now what was i saying?
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 16, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
I would say she is attractive and I would guess high maintenance
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Yes
Boggs misses surprisingly few bats. His FB plays up well out of the pen but his breaker does not. Motte, one pitch specialist though he is, misses muchos batos.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 16, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
we need both Boggs and Motte
tricky, that.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Anderson + Lynn + Samuel (he's the S dude least likely to pan out, right?)
I’d really try to avoid giving up Boggs or Motte
it goes
Sanchez > Salas > Samuel
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Nov 16, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Can I please use that as my tag line
so I won’t forget?
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
go ahead, sir
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
No way they get much for Samuel
His ghastly BB/9 isn’t going to get it done.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 16, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
that would be a trade, not a sign
and Uggla’s value exceeds Reynolds
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Nov 16, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Hmmm...
Three MLB-ish players for one year of awesome offensive output and poor defense at 2B… But, we’d get a pick back for the 2012 draft. I don’t mind losing Motte (except on a personal level) as I think his on the field performance can be replicated. I’d rather not lose Anderson, but wouldn’t lose sleep over it, I guess (unless that makes them re-sign Pagz). And I’d hate to lose Lynn, but the extra pick Uggla will give us in 2012 can replace Shelby Miller and Shelby Miller replaces Lance Lynn in the “closet to MLB ready SP contest.”
In the end, I greenlight this.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
we get AT LEAST a pick
maybe two
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Nov 16, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Yea, a little bit on the "too rich for me" side
but the pick(s) in the 2012 draft would help. Anderson I’d have no real problem with as they don’t seem to be ready to make him backup. I’d hate to see either of Motte or Boggs go, especially Motte.
Has there been any discussion of what Florida is looking for in return? Do they need pitching (who doesn’t), OF, IF, ?? Any chance they would take Skip in return (we might have to eat some salary).
by ArkansasTravs on Nov 16, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
I think it was mentioned yesterday?
Catcher, Pitcher, MIF?
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
Ok, time for more coffee, and/or a new contact lens prescription.
I read that as “Catcher, Pitcher, MILF?”
i basically always read MIL as MILF. stupid american pie.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Middle Infielder who Looks Fine?
The ladies of VEB seem to agree that Skip qualifies.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i hope you're joking
but if not, wait for a suitable period of computer-freeness and look it up.
(I know VEB threads spontaneously generate themes in a mathematically random way, but this one is odd.)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, Yadi2Second
I should hope that I had enough sarcasm cred built up that my knowledge of such an acronym wouldn’t be in doubt.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I have no perception of such things
I have catcher-in-the-rye syndrome when it comes to newbs stumbling blindly through the pseudo English language.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I getcha
Anyway, I have my share of sarcasm miscues and misreadings. I was just joshin’ ya, dooder.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
what you just call me!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i would like to be excluded
oh wait you said ladies
nevermind then
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
they're looking for a catcher and pitching.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Ok, so
Anderson, Boggs, and Skip and we pick up some of Skip’s contract. That would be a costly, money-wise, trade adding, say, $9M to next year’s payroll (7-8 for Uggla in arby and another 1-1.5 from Skip’s contract), but it wouldn’t cost us much (mostly just Boggs) in talent. We would have to find a 2B for 2012, but between Descalso, Greene, and Cox, surely we could make that year work.
Of course the Marlins could want (and possibly get) better than this.
by ArkansasTravs on Nov 16, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
IMO
If they can get Uggla without losing Motte, it’s a good move. If Boggs gets it done they have to pull the trigger.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 16, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Not that it means all that much
But Motte’s name was next to the number at the top of a column of numbers under the title WAR/IP, even higher than Waino. Whether that means he was our most effective pitcher entirely, or just out of the bullpen, or just that my Excel program has a weird sorting routine, I don’t know. But the sorting came out saying that Motte had the biggest number, followed closely by Waino and McClellan, then Garcia, and Penny, Carp, and Franklin following after.
Boggs was much further down the list, even in his (I think) more effective role in the bullpen. The only way I think that he is more valuable to the Cardinals on the field is if he somehow gets back into the rotation mix, and maintains his effectiveness while doing so. I think the possibility of him being a starter, when he hasn’t shown anything so far to prove that he would be decent at it, is the main reason he would be more valuable as a trading chip than Motte, in addition to being less valuable were we to keep him.
Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.
no boggs starting nooooo
mentally he goes off the deep end as a starter. this is one case of the bullpen saving a dude’s life.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, but maybe only Cardinals fans know this
And we could convince some other team that he’s worth more to them because they are capable of finally turning him into an effective starter.
BTW, the full sorted list of WAR/100 IP (easier to read the numbers):
Motte 2.88
Wainwright 2.65
McClellan 2.53
Garcia 1.78
Penny 1.27
Carpenter 1.23
Franklin 1.23
Westbrook 1.07
Reyes 1.05
Suppan 0.57
Boggs 0.45
Salas 0.33
Miller 0.28
Hawksworth -1.44
Walters -2.00
Lohse -3.15
Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.
by Rejuvenile on Nov 16, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd do it, except i wouldn't send Motte
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
so the NL Cy Young gets announced today...
where are we in the mix, anyone want to guess?
Waino ends up… second… third?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
second
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Nov 16, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
In a bizzare turn of events,
Wainwright is left completely off the NL Cy Young ballot by all votes, but somehow wins the AL Cy Young.
that's pretty close to what my Ballot would look like
you could argue that Johnson should be ahead of Ubaldo, but considering how much better Ubaldo was than any pitcher in the 18 years the Rockies have been playing I would argue he should be at least 3
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Coors field now and then...
seem like two completely different animals. I mean, if Aaron Cook can succeed there… I think Johnson is more worthy than Ubaldo or Wainwright. He only pitched 40 fewer innings and was MUCH better.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
40 innings is like six starts
and IIRC, the reason johnson has so fewer innings is his inability to go deep into ball games.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Aaron Cook has a career high ERA+ of 118 for a whole season
Ubaldo had a 161+ over 220 innings Tracy wore him out in the first half but even with that he had a great August and a solid September
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
correct
you win the prize of being able to think the like BBWA
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
Jason Johnson will be very sad to hear this
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
I think it depends on the audience
In most fun environments it will add, but the more old-fogey fun environments it could be a negative. After all, selling it can easily be seen as unnecessary “flash” when a more humble, workmanlike fielder wouldn’t make such a show of himself.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Thought I'd share what I woke up to today.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
You got drunk and slept in a used car lot last night?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 16, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
he's already shoveled his sidewalk
in his sleep.
you woke up in a snowy parking lot?
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 16, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Well, I took the picture when I got into work, asshats.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Don't expect too much in the walk up business department today
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
whisky
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Ah uisce beatha the water of life
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Jameson!!!!
:=8D
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
76 and sunny here today. it is finally that time of year when i get to gloat!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
high of 70 here
currently a little cold. low-60s
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 16, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
I must be the luckiest guy around
as far as travel goes. I spent 10 days in London & Paris two summers ago. It rained for about three hours one morning in Paris. The complete five day in London (it was June, but still) it was sunny and mild.
The other time I went to Europe (Germany, Austria and Hungary) it was in September and, other than one rainy day in Vienna, it was gorgeous weather the whole trip.
by ArkansasTravs on Nov 16, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
hell no
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
okay i'm driving to chicago by myself on friday
this better not happen or i will end up in a ditch on I-55 somewhere
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Driving to Chicago in general
is ALWAYS a bad idea. Always. Always.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
i dun get it
i drove there from columbia once and it was all right besides being like 8 hours long
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
Because quite frankly I sincerely hope the entire city slides off into Lake Michigan.
Their sports teams suck, their people are rude, and Cook county lords over the rest of the state like a drunken despot.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
i thought it was a pretty awesome city
onr of my favorites of the cities i’ve visited
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
I hereby bequeath it to you in its entirety.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
at this rate, VEB will need an "I hate [region]" fanshot
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
And not to talk politics, but
our new governor won 3 freaking counties in the whole state. Can you guess which 3?
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Duh...
the three that voted for him.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
by Red Blazer on Nov 16, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
So you need to implement an electoral college in Illinois
so the less populous counties can outweigh Cook Co.
by ArkansasTravs on Nov 16, 2010 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
if it's illinois
it’s probably the three counties with the most dead people voting.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
Vote early, vote often, vote posthumously.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i don't know, i've been in chicago um... twice
once for work and i didn’t really leave the hotel
and the second time to the airport
now i’m driving there alone
you need to understand, europeans don’t drive much, don’t usually drive places if it’s more than a couple of hours drive and we’re usually polite drivers – use blinkers, observe right of way and all that. i’m afraid that chicago drivers will eat me alive. and as a female alone, in a big new place, i’m a bit uneasy.. maybe i should take one of the dogs
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Take the train?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
will bring a lot back otherwise i would
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Oh they will.
I’m from the other end of the state. We generally don’t speed, and we wave each other through 4-way stops.
Not true up there. They just drive through red lights till they get cut off, they speed, and they are generally kind of obnoxious people. Now there exceptions to every rule, but the nice, laid back person is a rare person there.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
megabus it
or try to stay with the pack when you’re driving, it’s probably easier than just cruising on the expressway (although, be sure to stay right if you are going slower).
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
No, keep that stuff out of here!!!
Snow sucks.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 16, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Dan, I was gonna say that you're underrating Molina's FAWARP
Then I noticed he only trails Ryan and Pujols on our list. I just wan’t grasping the scale quite yet. Clearly, a 1.5 FAWARP is nothing to scoff at. Albert’s rather Pujolsian gap between him and the next highest FAWARP on the list makes it harder to appreciate Yadi and Brendan’s achievements.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
the Cards clearly need to work on their FAWARP for '11
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
What would Tony's FAWARP be?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
-4
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
What about Dave Duncan?
I find his (perceived) ol’ curmudgeon appearance entertaining. I also enjoy making jokes to my friends about him and viagra.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Dunc's is actually pretty high
he doesn’t mess around, and when he trots out there, he doesn’t go at Lou-speed, and all he seems to say is “get your fucking head out of your ass”. then he goes back.
I mean, it’s entertaining enough for Yadi to always want to be present to watch.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I love how he usually seems pretty calm...
but appears to never be f*cking around, AND using a large amount of obscenities…maybe that is just my own imagination taking over.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
he always seems to be around, imo
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
he's like the glue
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
sigh...
but he don’t f*ck around. If he’s on the mound, he ain’t f*ckin’ around.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
1.5
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Now that is a trade I would consider making
even if Miller’s name came up
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
which one is he...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the one with power and a team friendly contract
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
in bed.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
hmm?
seems like you’re just posting in bed to random sentences… unless im missing something and they make sense…
(shrugs)…
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 16, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
He posted a .388 wOBA as a 22yr old RF in 09 took an injured step back in 10
here is his contract
- 6 years/$51.25M (2010-15)
* signed extension with Arizona 3/3/10
* $1.25M signing bonus
* 10:$0.5M, 11:$4.25M, 12:$6.75M, 13:$9.75M, 14:$14.25M, 15:$14.5M
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Obligatory comment about how VEB never talks baseball.
(Just thought I’d get that out of the way.)
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
by azruavatar on Nov 16, 2010 1:31 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
I came here to do two things:
Drink beer and talk about homosexual european’s sexual identity bending misadventures. And I’m almost out of beer.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 16, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
THAT'S THREE GREENS IN ONE THREAD, PEOPLE
remember this day forever.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
You haven't responded to my post About Justin Upton being on the block
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
You robots designed
the TSA guidelines didn’t you
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
sorry, I had one comment about the weather and all the sudden I never talk about baseball!
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
it's some sport that takes place about 1000 years from now
stupid winter
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
goddamnitwhereisbaseballifeellikeimstuckinanantidepressantmedicationcommercial!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
This is a baseball blog? I thought this was where we came to
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Nov 16, 2010 3:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
...bitch about unfair tickets
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Nov 16, 2010 3:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah, lots of z-ing today
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
Waino is number two
congrats to Roy
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
And Waino's extension just kicked in.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Wainwright now signed through 2013
$9M in 2012, $12M in 2013.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
wow Mo
you really suck at being the GM
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 16, 2010 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
it's ADAM WAINWRIGHT.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 16, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
+10^6
A.D.A.M. is worth $12M now, we’re getting a bargain in ’13 (assuming continued…..you know)
by ArkansasTravs on Nov 16, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
i should have written that in blue or something
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 17, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
I think I'm 0-for-3 in the last twenty four hours
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The right choice.
Waino will get his.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
It's wierd to think all those times I walked pasted the A-West practice that
there was future Cy Young award winner out there, of course if I had known I would have made my buddy Bret hang out with him more
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
called it
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
A.D.A.M. via Leach
loves the pie. family loves the pie. trying to sell the pie to Jake, but Jake has a poker face.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
sounds like he loves the BBQ
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
that video of him driving to the stadium
he talks about his insatiable love of food. “more than date nights”, he says his wife jokes.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Hey Chitown and other Chicagoans.....
thought this might interest you.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
danke
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
if you are in Chicago, that place the Beer Bistro is pretty freaking great
plus tonight they have $2 burgers! amazing beer selection ftw
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
nfl homepage on fespn
powerankings are listed on front page and has pictures of manning, brady, matt ryan….and…..sam bradford!
who woulda thought the rams are actually talked about now
by guillermozeliak on Nov 16, 2010 2:32 PM EST reply actions
talked about without being ridiculed for once
that’s nice
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
usually when I'm talked about...I'm ridiculed
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
see what i mean
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Yeah, but he's the ZX model of Sheckie.
You know like the Ford Escort ZX coupe….
Oh wait…..
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
ewh, the Pats are ranked #1
wow, the Saints have an easy schedule coming up. looking forward to watching that Giants vs Eagles game, should be interesting.
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
what are you reading?
the falcons are #1 here
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 17, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
hopefully the rams
will have a breakout game from sam and get a big win at home…they lose the easy game and now might win the tough game
by guillermozeliak on Nov 17, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
NFL
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 17, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/11/16/nfl-power-rankings-week-11-patriots-eagles-rise-again/
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 17, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sort of scratching my head
should the Chiefs really be ranked ahead of the Bears and the Chargers at this point?
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 17, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
So, this is good news.
AD movie should be out this time next year.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Do you spend alot of time on HollyWoodLife.com?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
no, none at all.
Found the link elsewhere.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Riggggghhhhttt!!!!
in Bill Cosby’s Noah voice
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
I'm more of a Perez type for my Hollywood gossip.
/it hurt to type that out. Fuck I hate everything about the whole “Hollywood” what are the stars doing crap out there.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I think most movies suck lately
and a lot of the stars are just annoying, not that much talent
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Scott Pilgrim against the World
it is awesome.
that is all.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
Red
Helen Mirren is talent, yo.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Okay ...
I feel really stupid…
I don’t remember that broad from the movie…
Is she connected or are you just blurting?
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
Dame Helen Mirren?
Forty year acting career? One Oscar, four SAGs, four BAFTAs? Dame Commander of the Order of the British Empire?
(it must be Insult the British Day….)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
She was in Caligula for gods sake!
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
Yeah, I have a Twitter...big whoop...wanna fight about it?
three, count them, three different British queens
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
oh wait... wait...
she was never in Harry Potter, so maybe no one knows who she is.
she’s not Dame Judi Dench, though it’s forgivable to confuse the two. Judi Dench has the really short hair.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
here is a related article.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I never watched or read any harry potter
I have problems identifying
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
it's a quickie guide to every British actor
except those listed in that article above
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
cool
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
that said
this is the heyday of cable television serials. good stuff
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
well that was tiresome to read through.
follow me on twitter @nickg105, @Rams_Fan_Voice
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 16, 2010 3:35 PM EST reply actions
So's your face
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Nov 16, 2010 3:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed, his face is incredibly tiresome.
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
nice.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
wake up!
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
dip some tagalongs in some coffee and stop bitching
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
by d-dee on Nov 16, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Some doofus actually thought Bronson Arroyo was the fifth best pitcher in the NL this year
I guess every postseason award has to have at least one inexplicably stupid ballot.
by BTown Birds fan on Nov 16, 2010 3:41 PM EST reply actions
that guy is one of the 8 owners of Bronson's album
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Baseball Reference already has the 2010 NL Cy results incorporated
Wainwright is now 43rd in career Cy shares, just based on the last two years.
Pujols has a decent shot of passing Mays and Williams for 3rd in career MVP shares, right behind Stan the Man.
by BTown Birds fan on Nov 16, 2010 3:50 PM EST reply actions
look at that,
Chris Carpenter third among active pitchers (behind Johan and Halladay) and 20th overall.
Hmmmm
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
GMs are about to say stuff to people who report stuff.
apparently. (I’m not sure I’ve got the outlets right now to find out what.)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'm guessing they will speak in generalizations.
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
i'm actually not following all the twit chitchat
i dearly want to, though. all’s I got is that Prince Fielder is there with agent bees man.
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
speaking of twitter
cj beatty might have located david freese’s second job
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it really is.
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Uggla traded to Braves for
Omar Infante and a lefty reliever.
Wow, that doesn’t seem like much to give up.
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If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
John Mozeliak
YOU FUCKING FAIL.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
seriously I am sick of your indecisive, misguided shit and I am considering bringing back the Fire John Mozeliak sig
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
no, can you explain it to me.
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Its very simple.
We could acquire a top of the line second baseman for pennies on a short term deal that would bring back prospect(s) at the end.
We do it. Then its done.
Fire John Mozeliak
and then there's no money for anything else
likely including albert pujols
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wrong.
albert’s new deal starts in 2011, when Uggla will be a free agent.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 16, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
what if that doesn't cut it?
you’re gonna gamble albert pujols for a year of dan uggla?
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i highly doubt
that whether the structure of Pujols’2012 salary would be an impediment to an extension on either side.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 16, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
we don't have 10 mil to spend on a second baseman
when we already have close to a third of that committed to that position
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
WTF!!!
That’s the price for an “in-division” trade?!?! Why on earth did we not contend with that?
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
because he will cost $10MM
but don’t let me get in the way of all the irrationality that’s about to spew
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And he's also not really a fit for this team... We don't really need another slugger
We need somebody to lead off
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i wouldn't have said no
but the money situation just doesn’t fit with what the cardinals have to work with
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HEY HEY HEY
here’s my new sig:
KILL purple_haze!!
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
by d-dee on Nov 16, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It makes so much sense to trade Carp its ridiculous
we would be almost guaranteed to get back more marginal value than he is worth going forward.
Fire John Mozeliak
he seems a pretty good bet to be at least 4 WAR
where else we gonna get that?
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no way
he’s on the downside. He played all year this year and didn’t make it to 4. IF he stays healthy, the aging curve is still gonna knock him down.
Fire John Mozeliak
Why would anyone want him?
He’s got a serious nerve condition that will end his career if it flares up. The Cardinals are not the only team that know that.
Besides, who slides into the rotation then?
because he's been an Ace with a capital A for two years straight
thats worth something on the market.
Fire John Mozeliak
disagree
Adam is the ace now. not even 1A. Carp had spates of mechanics problems all season long.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that said, Carp has to stay to wring out value on his contract.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and who is going to fill that giant hole in the rotation?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Oh, I would've been excited about the move, no doubt
But I really think we’re gonna get 20-25 HR from Craig, so I don’t think another slugger brings that much to the table. We need a guy that can get on base at higher than a 35% clip, and the money only gives further reason not to trade for Uggla
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Uggla's OBP last year was .369.
Higher than Skip’s OBP ever.
by spants on Nov 16, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
20-25 hr from Craig would be amazing
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
120 games would be amazing.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'd say he gets about 70 - 80 unless he grabs TLR's attention away from Jay
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
and that's optimistic
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
I gotta say I'm an idiot......
I read Craig, but was thinking of Freese for some reason.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
???
How is a crappy-fielding 2B with a career 837 OPS (and an 877 OPS in 2010) with one-year left before free agency not a good fit for a team with a crappy-fielding 2B who hit a 667 OPS last season not a good fit?
Granted, we don’t have anyone remotely resembling Omar Infante, if that was indeed central to the deal, but value-wise we have to have been able to beat that deal.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 16, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
we don't have anybody who's had one good year and been marginally better than replacement value for the rest of his career?
after 2800 PA’s, infante has amassed a whopping 6.9 WAR.
skip schumaker after 1900 PAs — 3.7 WAR.
brendan ryan after 1300 PAs – 5.0 WAR.
brendan would be an upgrade over infante.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
You forgot to calculate in All-Star appearances!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
We probably can't take on $10 million for a position..
player no matter what the Marlins were asking. That said, Omar Infante is a crappy return. Better off with the picks.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
to be fair
every other team in baseball is saying the same thing
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
who's the braves manager now btw?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
before ST we should have a 'who's the manager' quiz
turnover’s crazy around the league
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if I knew how to work it, yah. that was my thought.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
"all star" omar infante
but yeah, that’s a pretty weak trade. we could’ve gotten uggla for something like that.
I'm lost on whether this is sarcasm or not
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
wow
I’m surprised it happened already and for that return.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Nov 16, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, makes me go WAT
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, Bill James really hates Colby next year
.261/.343/.468 with only 468 PAs
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
I highly doubt...
Jon Jay’s backup is going to amass anything close to 468 PAs… but I could be wrong.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
well they're probably assuming
Jay misses some time.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Nov 16, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
dayum
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 16, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
.811 OPS seems reasonable from a projection system
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No, that's only for players we don't like
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Nov 16, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Well done danup
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
so
how much outrage is there going to be around here when cliff lee inevitably signs with someone else? will there be threatening to burn down busch?
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probably not much
No one expects the Cardinals to make a play for him.
And I’m not outraged that we didn’t get the expensive slugging “second baseman”…ultimately I’m a little stunned that the Marlins settled for this return.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Nov 16, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I really only expect Lee to sign with the Rangers or Yankees.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
WESTBROOK
Cardinals sign Westbrook to two-year deal with option. #stlcards
PER GOOLD
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Awesome.
Any word on player or club option?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Mutual option, it looks like
Bueno
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
THE STOVE IS SO FREAKING HOT
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Nov 16, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
FIRE BURNING
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
in westbrook's sparkling sapphire blue eyes.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Nov 16, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i guess we should wait for the picspam?
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he's got brilliant blue eyes
but he’s also a bad ass that will strike motherfuckers out
welcome back to the Cardinals Westy!! yeeey!

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
FUCK YOU JOHN MOZELIAK
YOU NEVER DO ANYTHING WHAAAAAAA
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by prophetjohn on Nov 16, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wish this was sarcastic
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Nov 16, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
mah pappy used to tell me
wish in one hand, shit in the other. see which one fills up faster
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the shit hand will fill up faster
because a wish doesn’t have mass
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Nov 16, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
I thought so too
but I’m just trying to help, with science.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Nov 16, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
Bill Nye just phoned in.
On behalf of a one Mr. Science, he apologizes for the good sir’s benign oversight, as he meant to advise volume, and not mass.
where is the one that we used to get confused with clank?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
He came to my school today to give a talk
…he fainted at the end of it
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
remind me not to shake hands with your dad, if that's the kind of experiment he runs.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Nov 16, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
what do we think? new thread in honor of the trade? who says aye?
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
IN HONOR OF WESTBROOK
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I want to post this link first
didn’t you have a resolution of some sort, tom s.?
http://twitter.com/BJRains/status/4670966655352832
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it is a wonder of its species.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
oh now it's on.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
trade?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
signing, trade. whatever.
new main post is up.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
jumpers
step back
main post / hot stove thread
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