National League Silver Slugger fails to provoke animosity in anybody
by DanUpBaby on Nov 12, 2010 6:01 AM EST
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PrintOkay, the Silver Slugger I can't get worked up about. We just know too much about evaluating hitters for the awards to do anything for me; let me know who had the highest OPS+ or most batting runs or whatever and allow me to get back to whining about the Gold Gloves, if it's all the same.
Nevertheless, it is an award, and awards exist so that we can be pissed off about them. So far as Albert Pujols goes, he finished 13 points short of Joey Votto for the NL OPS title but played nine more games (52 additional plate appearances), so I think he earned this one. The stats sites are pushing for a mistrial—Baseball-Reference has them at 64 and 61 runs above average, respectively, while Fangraphs calls it 59 to 57 in favor of Votto, presumably because wOBA finds intentional walks distasteful and opposing managers find intentionally walking Albert Pujols distinctly tasteful.
As dinged up as Pujols has seemed almost every moment of his career, he's now played at least 154 games eight seasons out of 10 in his career, which comes as quite a shock to me. (Random, nicely ordered Cardinal examples: Larry Walker did that zero times; Jim Edmonds once; Scott Rolen four times; Ozzie Smith seven times, counting the 110 games he played in 1981; Stan Musial eight times. Okay, okay, so the season was 154 games long.)
Matt Holliday also picked up a Silver Slugger award, his fourth, and it was well-deserved—only Carlos Gonzalez had a clearly better year among outfielders.
As a guy with a borderline Hall of Fame shot if he plays his cards right (really, really right) accumulating Silver Slugger awards might mean something for him, or at least give his voter base one more stat to rattle off at the appropriate part of the Keltner List. Albert Pujols's Silver Slugger awards will be used to ward off intruders, level shaky tables, stop doors, etc., until such time as A.J. Pujols is ready to swing them in high school ball.
Jayson Werth should have replaced Ryan Braun as the third outfielder, but there's little egregious to complain about on this list—no Derek Jeter, certainly. It seems increasingly clear to me that sportswriters, managers, coaches, and anybody else allowed to vote for an award on the basis of somebody's Innate Greatness or calm eyes or delicate grasp of the intangibles insofar as there are no numbers that can clearly and easily refute it. Shouldn't veteran presence show up just as much on offense as on defense?
Okay, okay, there's one additional more playing time-related controversy over which to overheat, if you're looking. Despite hitting .364/.375/.527 in 57 plate appearances before being traded, and getting more national press for his hitting since anybody this side of Mike Hampton, Dan Haren was unable to win the Willie McGee 1990-memorial Silver Slugger award. He lost out to Yovani Gallardo, who hit .254/.329/.508 in 72 plate appearances.
Like my favorite Hall of Fame debates, this comes down to how you like your Silver Slugger candidates to accumulate. Baseball-Reference gives Gallardo the narrow edge, 11 runs above a replacement-level hitting pitcher to 10. The catch: in his briefer stay Haren edged Gallardo 3 runs to 2 against an average hitter. There's something interesting in this debate—something seems wrong about giving a pitcher a hitting replacement-level, since that's not the reason for which they're typically replaced—but I say that as someone who would love to know more about punter metrics.
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but, ss is not the real news
which is that there will only be 50 dan and al games on tv this year, but 50 rick and al games instead. but, if rick leaves, does that mean 150 dan and al games? silver tongue award indeed!
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
I want a Goold and Coleman broadcast team.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Also, Vince could help DanUp develop punter metrics.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
VEB: Vince Employment Board
Everybody with me now.
GIVE VINCE A JOB! GIVE VINCE A JOB! GIVE VINCE A JOB!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I hear the color man spot
is open on the WWL… just sayin.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Can he have a special segment
called ‘this weeks fireworks target’?
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Maybe a tarp race in between innings
For prizes!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i think he is refering to
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
There's some hope yet!
But among the twists that could alter plans is that Horton has expressed some interest in the vacant TV analyst’s job with the Washington Nationals.
Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.
by The Continental on Nov 12, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
and brings Al with him.
Send us Carpenter.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
we should write them a bunch of letters of recommendation
and flood the Nats with them
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
by d-dee on Nov 12, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
The Nationals love our sloppy seconds...
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
what are you trying to say
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 12, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Believe in the power of the mute button.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
Oh... My... God
Please no… Please.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 12, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Dino de Laurentiis just died.
He’s with Crom now, laughing at your god from his mountain. Ha, ha!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Dino Di Horrendous!
You forget he won Oscars in his past, and revel in the crappy stinkers of the 70’s and 80’s. Conan was the 1 diamond in that stinky pile of coal. But hay, at least his loins eventually produce the immeasurably hot Giada Di Laurentiis!!!
:=8D
http://www.killahbeez.com/2009/02/24/latest-obsession-giada-de-laurentiis/
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
Ohhh, and also...
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
AND
she likes meat! Especially beef!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 12, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
Giada
I still don’t get it. You can have her. Give me Rachel Ray any day.
by WizardofOz1982 on Nov 15, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm
The guy produced Battle of the Bulge, Barbarella, Serpico, Death Wish, the remake of King Kong and its sequel, Flash Gordon, Ragtime, both Conan movies (obviously the first one is way, way better than the second one), Dune, Red Sonja, Blue Velvet, Evil Dead 2, Army of Darkness, U-571, Hannibal. I’m not sure he’s a living legend or anything, but he did some good stuff. Entertaining and memorable, anyway.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Red Sonja.... mmm.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 12, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Is that a good mmm or a bad mmm?
I only mentioned it because I enjoyed watching it as a kid. Interestingly, the score is by Sergio Leone, and it has Arnold, the woman Brigitte Nielsen who played the Russian lady in Rocky IV (who later dated Flava Flav) and it also has Conan’s girlfriend from the first movie as the villain. Oh, and Paul L. Smith, who shows up in Dune and Flash Gordon as well. Funny how filmmakers end up using the same actors over and over again.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Dreadful film...
:=8P
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
It's pretty bad
And that’s OK with me!
Actually it’s honestly hard to watch now, even with my nostalgia for it. Same thing with Conan the Destroyer, I just can’t pay as much attention to it.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I think Destroyer is better than Red Sonja, anyway.
New film versions of both Red Sonja and Conan are in the works.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Umm
I think you mean Ennio Morricone, who did the music for most of Sergio Leone’s films, did the score for Red Sonja.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 12, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely not a living legend anymore.
…
…
too soon?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 12, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
ARMY OF DARKNESS!!!!
Best flick on that list.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
First you wanna kill me, now you wanna kiss me. Blow.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 12, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Clatto... Verata... N-(coughcoughcough)!
Okay, that’s it!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Shop smart. Shop S Mart
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
....
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Well Hello Mr. Fancypants!
I’ve got news for you pal, you ain’t leadin’ but two things, right now: Jack and sh*t… and Jack left town.
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
This is my boomstick!
It really is one of the most quotable movies.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 12, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun.
Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.
by The Continental on Nov 12, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Sure I could've stayed in the past. Could've even been king.
But in my own way I am king…hail to the king baby.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Clatto Verata N... Necktie... Neckturn... Nickel... It's an "N" word, it's definitely an "N" word! Clatto... Verata... N- [coughs] There, I said it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QemcjQHJBmg
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
He also Produced....
Mandingo, the horrible King Kong remake, the even worse King Kong Lives (with the female Kong with the giant udder action), Orca, The Serpent’s Egg, Amityville II: the Possession, Cat’s Eye, Maximum Overdrive, Tai Pan (Moodonna), and Body of Evidence (moore Moodonna). He was definitely a mixed bag. Still, he was better then Golan-Globus…
:=8P
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
Army of Darkness is one of my favorite movies of all time
despite there being about 6 different versions of it
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
i have a theory about her
and subtle achondroplasia-like features. but, you’re correct – she is hot.
Smoking red hot!
Even though she sometimes looks plastic. I get over it quickly…
;=8)
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
Re: HOFer Holliday
I don’t think Matt has a chance unless he is a big part of the Cardinals making a few deep playoff runs. With his Current Resume of playoff games he is know being called safe on a slide where he was more than likely out and getting hit in the nuts.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Thank you for that ... colorful ... analogy.
StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
by StanTheManFan on Nov 12, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
Hey DanUp
you should apply for a part-time position at Fangraphs. Maybe earn some money, get some notoriety as a journalist, that kind of thing. I’d love to see your star rise in the blogging community and Fangraphs could use some help so….
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/want-to-write-for-fangraphs/
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
perhaps a picture?
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
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I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
i hear that Mattidome is a student of "Nutkwando"
his master “StrongDongSan” pleaded that he was not ready, but Matt went for the famed “Crotch Catch” anyways…
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
i'm gonna flag your ass for this
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Yeah, really.
What’s next, a montage featuring Suppan on the basepaths and the Coleman tarp?
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
I honestly thought they'd give the silver slugger to Votto
Anyway, I would assume the HRs and RBI are what swayed the voters, despite the more sabery arguments that Pujols pretty much equaled Votto this year (BABIP and park adjustments, etc.)
This sort of thing of makes really wonder if Pujols will pull out the MVP award after all. I have been assuming Votto will win it, and I would still bet on it. But who knows. Maybe they’ll split the “best first baseman who crushes the ball” vote and Carlos Gonzalez or Ryan Zimmerman or somebody else will sneak away with it
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I'm thinking this is consolation prize hardware for Pujols and Votto still gets the MVP.
Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.
by The Continental on Nov 12, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Very well could be, but not all the same people vote on these, right?
I’m just wondering if the same arguments for giving Albert those two awards might also sway some MVP voters.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I hope so...
but i do fear that Albert will be considered the best offensive and defensive first baseman in the league, but not the most valuable…sigh.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Well, I wouldn't really mind him winning or not winning the MVP this year
I am just kinda wondering aloud.
On a related note, I would almost feel kind of bad if he won. I would be tempted to take solace in the “there are awards he deserved but didn’t win, so it’s OK for him to win sometimes when he might not deserve it” argument, but ultimately that doesn’t really satisfy me.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I agree, I'm not sure he was the MVP this year.
But his argument is about as strong as anyone’s. If he doesn’t win this year, I won’t feel like he was screwed (like 2006, I mean seriously…).
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Gold Glove/Silver Slugger voting is done by managers and coaches; BBWAA vote for MVP
from mlb.com articles
Voting for the Gold Glove Awards is done by managers and coaches from all 30 teams who submitted their votes by the end of the regular season. Votes are cast for the best defensive player at each position in each league. In the outfield, the top three defensive players are selected regardless of whether they play left field, right or center. Managers and coaches can vote only for players in their own league and can’t vote for their own players.
Winners of the Silver Slugger award were determined by voting conducted among Major League managers and coaches, who were asked to name the players at each position in the National and American Leagues who put up the best seasons at the plate. Voters were forbidden from voting for players from their own clubs.
I couldn't remember if the gold glove and silver slugger voters were the same
Not sure why, now that I think of it. Anyway, I’m guessing that the BBWAA is going to have some of the same biases and thought processes as the coaches and managers. But the BBWAA has surprised in the past. Greinke, Lincecum, etc.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
prediction: Albert poised to win MVP by total votes, but Tom Haudricourt*
leaves him completely off his ballot. I then fly to Milwaukee and set his house on fire.
*Yeah, you Straussian asshat, I haven’t forgotten
Park-Adjusted wOBA
Pujols: .437
Votto: .426
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Right
But those arguments aren’t exactly the same thing as saying that he actually was better than Votto. They’re saying that maybe he should have done better than Votto. Which is different.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Not quite
The park-adjusted wOBA is saying that Pujols DID perform better RELATIVE to the hitting environment he played in.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
bgh disagrees.......
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yeah, it's clear he hit better on the road
But the park adjustments still hurt him and help Pujols. I’m not really sure what’s going on there, I wouldn’t have expected it to make such a difference.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
it could go either way
in my mind, they are about equal…. at least they are close enough to where if Pujols gets it I can justify it and if Votto gets it I won’t be mad cause he deserved it…
will be interesting…
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 12, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Ubaldo is at the back of that list he lost all the love when he went through
the rough patch in July
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
is this in order?
no possible way.
Pujols and Votto are assuredly #1 and #2, it just depends which is which.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
That still doesn’t mean he wasn’t aided by GAP, his home numbers were still likely inflated.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 13, 2010 2:50 AM EST up reply actions
they're giving it to Pujols because they will probably be giving the MVP to Votto
/baseball politics
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Goold's MVPag table - to be explained later today...
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
Some day
this boy will learn to do this stuff on a spreadsheet and use screen caps.
I hope not. I like the quaintness of it.
Like when I chronicled a 162 game season of Bases Loaded 2 on NES in a notebook when I was 12.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 12, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
he's a cartoonist, though.
it’s his oeuvre
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 12, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
but his penmanship is excellent
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
needs moar nickname
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 12, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
I think that says "Runs Saved", I believe.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 12, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
So the Silver Slugger is subjective
and does not simply go to the guy at the position with the highest average? Ok, I didn’t know that.
Friday's Pro Tip:
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
by TBender on Nov 12, 2010 10:04 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
ryan braun.....REALLY?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
yeah
wasnt werth tons better???
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
so... was this one of Albert's down years?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
unfortunately for all those that stand in his way. Yes.
also possibly unfortunate for the Cardinals’ budget.
“So, this was one of my client’s ‘down year’ and he won the GG and Silver Slugger award, he was in serious contention for MVP…”
But, I will take Albert’s down years for the rest of his career.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
ridiculous
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 12, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Pads GM is on record saying he will be tendered.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
okay someone explain the tendering term
because all i associate it with is marinade
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
It's the same. They take the player and soak him in a liquid of spices and other flavorings.
Short definition taken from here.
Major League clubs must offer contracts to players on its roster by December 12. In general, an offer may not be less than 80% of the player’s salary and performance bonuses the previous year or less than 70% of his salary and performance bonuses from two years earlier.
If a club has no interest in keeping a particular player, the club may choose to non-tender him, or to not offer him a contract. A player generally becomes a candidate to be non-tendered when he is arbitration-eligible and his club determines he is not worth the salary he might command in arbitration. A player who is non-tendered becomes a free agent and may sign with any of the 30 Major League clubs, including his former team, at any price.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
Date moved to Dec 2nd this year
as part of the whole acceleration of free agent business. Boog has three more weeks to sweat. Link to mlb.com Important Dates
Rookie of the Year on Nov 15th
NL Cy Young award on Nov 16th
NL MVP on Nov 22nd
tender meaning tender a contract
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 12, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
also, non-tender is the night
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 12, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
yes i stole that
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 12, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Padres payroll
for opening day 2010 was $37.8 mm. Then again, they only have $6.2MM committed to the one player under contract who isn’t either arb eligible or pre-arbitration.
I'm not sure.
I would like to see Studwick back behind the BoB.
The Marlins have reportedly ended contract negotiations. I know it’s probably impossible financially, but would ya’ll go for Uggla?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
what type of money is he looking for?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
esp. if they'd offered an optional 5th year
I don’t think they did, but I don’t know for sure. Either way… awful lot of money left on the table there.
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
People should be grabbing security in this economy...
not banking on a return to “normal” which is what I think he’s doing.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
For Uggla, why not take the chance?
I mean, what’s his WORST case scenario in this offseason? Something like 3 years/$24 million? After taxes, agent fees/commissions, etc., that’s about $10 million in the bank. That’s likely to be more than he’ll ever spend, so I’m guessing Uggla (or his agent, at least) figures why not shoot for the moon?
It's not this offseason that he's a FA...
it’s after 2011. That’s part of the problem. He’ll earn $11 million or so this year, then get a deal based on his 2011 performance and the economy. His 2011 performance could completely suck (he’s a chunky 31 year old) and the economy could continue to tank.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
may be he really doesn't want to play in miami and lose ad infinitum in the ad infinitum heat
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
rumor is that's what the Players' Association is doing
apparently it’s speculated that they’re really pressuring Albert to take the highest deal possible regardless of the team it comes from – with the hopes that it results in higher paychecks for all players.
No article to link to… heard it on the radio – Fastlane on 101ESPN.
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
That's pretty much Standard Operating Procedure for the MLBPA, isn't it?
Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.
by The Continental on Nov 12, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Yup. Same thing the NFLPA is doing with Manning....
I have little doubt Albert is going to take the best financial deal, wherever it comes from.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 12, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
which is why this deal needs to get done
this offseason.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
It's an interesting question -
I think a deal this offseason will resort in an overpay to reduce the risk that Albert leaves.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 12, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
maybe
But I think if they wait until Next year, We won’t be overpaying Albert because he won’t be playing baseball for the BotB.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
I think this approach to the high-dollar players
ends up just screwing 90% of the MLBPA’s membership.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Is it because the teams balk at most of the other players
trying to maximize their own contracts?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Well, there is a finite amount of money to go toward players
If you make free agents absurdly expensive, then you basically guarantee that your averageish veteran players will either have to accept less money so that teams can afford their superstar A-Rod type, or that they get non-tendered.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Makes sense
It’s funny how the players associations would not consider that possibility.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Not sure we can afford what he's looking for
but if money weren’t an object, then hells yeah!
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
not at 5yrs/65MM....which is probably something like what he's looking for...
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 12, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
The Cards can't afford to do that at all.
And no one planning on playing him at second base for all five of those years should do that. It seems to me that a shift to third base is in Uggla’s future.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I guess I'll amend my statement slightly....
I’d be good with trading for Uggla for this year (depending on price of course), I just wouldn’t sign him long-term for what I think he’s going to ask for.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 12, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
That seems perfectly fair to me.
I’d rather have a full-season rental than a two- or three-month rental.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
He's my height
which means he’s actually an inch or two shorter, which means he’s too short to play 3b.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 12, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
I'd take that
.350 – .370 OBP in the number two slot in the order…. it would also give Tony his pop in the #2 slot he likes.
…
and most beneficially it might convince JMo to let us keep Boog at Short.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
They'd have to,
to cover the glaring hole at second.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
skip was -.2 dWAR, Uggla was -1.0dWAR
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
the question is
to what extent… does the range of Boog and Albert help to keep skips dWAR from being more negative…
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
good question.
we should probably acquire Uggla, make skip a MIF/OF supersub, and find out!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
i hate to do this, but eff it. its Friday!
OBP SLG
.359 .780 Jay
.360 .733 Freese
.426 1.050 Pujols
.388 .931 Holliday
.360 .859 Rasmus
.360 .733 Uggla
.327 .688 Molina
.314 .658 Ryan
would seem to be an adequate line up, no?
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
O think that OPS would be way low for Uggla
I assume the table is actually OBP and OPS?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
yeah sorry
like i said its friday
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
Uggla's OPS =.877
OBP = .369
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
don't know where i pulled the .733 from
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
it's that same you have for Freese
which is also incorrect.
Freese’s OBP-.361 OPS-.765
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
but i get the point.
“adequate” may be a bit modest.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Yeah, that's be a really nice lineup
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Who knows if Freese will develop a little more power
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
The Bill James projection at least
Expects him to add about 50 points of SLG. Though, I ignored Bill James projections for Rasmus and McCutchen in a fanpost not ten minutes ago, so that’s a bit inconsistent of me.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
or will ever play again.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Hey now. There's hope.
Monty Stratton played again.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
by the way, i google imaged "progressing nicely" just for fun.
this was one of the first pictures:
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
is that a chunky Cyndy Lauper?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Cindi Lauper
is a chunky Cindi Lauper.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
you know Time after Time
I told her to put down the pastry
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
mmmmmm, pastry....
;=8)
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
well
dWAR over the last two years…. -1.2 to -2.1 who is who?
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
Sounds like they're roughly comparable, defensively, then.
And hey, having an everyday 2nd baseman would definitely be a nice change from the past few seasons of the travelling merry-go-round of mediocre middle infielders.
Albert already covers that hole
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
IN BED
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
by IHeartBoog on Nov 12, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
you're not a lady anymore IHB, you've been compromised
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
..........I'm not saying it.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 12, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
not sure i ever was one.....
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
100% yes
even if all we can get is him for this last arb year. I’d make that trade ASAP (provided the requested prospects were reasonable of course).
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
that's the thing.
if the Marlins are looking to get something for him, they may take a more reasonable prospect load in response. Eh, maybe not.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
we have secretly switched Dan Uggla for Chase Utley...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 12, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Dan Uggla is really tempting
Take Skip Schumaker’s best case scenario. Add about 100 points of slugging percentage. Voila, you now have Dan Uggla.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Voila Uggla
the new Broadway sensation
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 12, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
The chorus line parts are breathtaking
All those stirrups and high socks kicking in perfect synchronization.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Saint Louis Cardinals Baseball
I don’t care if my boys win a WS in the immediate future…
I don’t care if we get some support up the middle…
damn… Ozzie was something special…
Albert is a Saint Louis Cardinal…
and that’s all there is to it.
Please go back in time and VORP me the magic of the lightning quick glove-to-hand slight of hand magic of Ozzie.
Albert must always be a Cardinal. Please argue otherwise…
PS- nice pic… he’s ours!
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
all right
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 12, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
He's the new Musial...
WITH POWER!
Seriously… he’s baseball.
Trade him?
I stuck along with the ’94 players strike, without hesitation.
If Albert goes… I’d think about it… that’s all I’m saying.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Nov 12, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
right on
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 12, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
My fan alliegance is to the Cardinals, not to Albert.
There will be a time when AP is no longer manning first base for the birds on the bat. Whether that time is April of 2012, April of 2022, or some indeterminate time in between, we can’t know.
While I think most, if not all, of us here would prefer to see Albert wear no uniform other than his Cardinals attire, I think most of us are generally also of the opinion that no one player, no matter how transcendent, is greater than the team. While Pujols is a ridiculously good player and he deserves ridiculous compensation, there comes a point when it’s simply not in the Cardinals best interest to sign him. We can disagree on where that point is, financially, but sooner or later, 28 or 30 or 35 or 40 million a year becomes better spent on finding a good replacement plus closing the other holes that would be opened in a lineup that includes Albert at that price. Yes, I want to see Albert stay, but I want to see the Cardinals win World Series. Should those two desires conflict, my priority goes with the team for which I’ve rooted for my years of baseball fandom.
That said, I don’t see why payroll couldn’t increase to the 105-110 million range, and make all this dancing a little easier.
by dronemc on Nov 12, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So who is being shopped by Atlanta for Clobby?
because if it is not Prado or Heyward we should not be listening
thank you
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 12, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Really?
Colby 3.5 WAR vs Prado 3.9 WAR, AND a need in MIF?
Prado only 27? What is it that I am missing?
Prado has three years left until FA...
while Rasmus has four. That one pre-arb year really makes a big difference when you tally up their value. That’s why I suggested Hanson…
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
that may be true
But we would have Prado through his prime. It’s different then trading for a guy at the end of his prime.
We might still lose Colby during his prime to FA.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
or trade him for someone talented that will by that time will be
8 years younger than Prado
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Matt Holliday got a younger faster version of himself
a Closer and a 5th starter type in return, and I am sure everyone here knows what kind of return J.D. Drew got
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Beane really is a genius
other than Cargo and Ethier he has done really well
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
It's a question of cielings and control.
As mentioned above, Colby’s got one more year to team control before Free Agency. Also, while Colby and Prado may have been comparable this year, my impression is that we tend to think Colby’s got more potential to be better, and Prado’s looking like he’s about at his maximum.
In terms of ceilings
It’s worth noting that Colby is 24 and Prado is 27. Both still young enough to be productive players, but Colby’s age suggests more improvement before peaking.
Filling one hole by creating another
is my take. The Cards would back fill Colby with Jay (or Schumaker as suggested by a certain unicorn) and suffer the drop off which would offset the gain by having Prado replace Schumaker at 2B.
And then, to roughly quote WMT.....
This whole fucking place will get blown up.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Exactly.
Who will be filling the role of the 3rd best hitter on the team? Maybe Prado can do that, but he already isn’t as good as Colby.
I HAVE AN IDEA
LET’S JUST NOT TRADE COLBY RASMUS
If it weren’t for Strauss’ rumor-mongering, we wouldn’t even be toying with the concept. The idea would be totally laughable. And yet here we are.
by mojowo11 on Nov 12, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't really know why I posted this in response to you, spants
Didn’t mean to suggest that I was disagreeing with you or anything.
yeah. Damn Strauss
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
I will take our slap hitting, defensive wizardry of a SS
every day of the week with this pitching staff, thank you very much.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
According to Goold's BirdLand page on Facebook,
Matt Carpenter is Cardinals minor league player of year and Shelby Miller is the minor league pitcher of the year. Story forthcoming.
shocker
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Nov 12, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
"Carpenter habitually swings from a standstill and the Cardinals have talked to him about some changes he could make to pull and drive the ball."
Where’s the Pain Guy?
;=8)
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
Well...
I think this…
Carpenter habitually swings from a standstill and the Cardinals have talked to him about some changes he could make to pull and drive the ball.
…is a pretty bogus criticism.
Yes, he swing is quiet (Mauer-ian to a degree, but is that bad?), but it’s not like he goes from flat feet or a standstill.
Perhaps this criticism comes from someone who likes, advocates, or teaches the lunging that you see in the swings of Craig, Kozma, and others?
I also didn’t see him showing any Yadi-esque tendencies toward slapping the ball.
seriously could you fix Garret Atkins?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Holliday and him are really tight
there are a few guys here who could get a hold of him mostly third hand from me though
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
that guy fell off a cliff
considering how Iannetta, Hawpe, Atkins, Smith, and Barmes all fell off of cliffs in Colorado over the last few years I do wonder if there is a problem with our coaches
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Hmmm...
I don’t know much about what Don Baylor teaches, but I would be surprised if things get better given that Carney Lansford is now the HC.
During the 2009 season, when Torres was in a slump Lansford would get all involved with him and try to fix him. The problem was that his advice was uniformly terrible. Torres knew enough about my stuff to know to question what Lansford was teaching him. He’d call me and say, “My coaches are trying to fix me and are telling me to do this, but that isn’t what I see in your clips of Pujols. I shouldn’t listen to them, right?”
That isn’t to say that Lansford is uniformly terrible, but I know he believes some really problematic stuff.
Oh, and this...
The problem for all three hitters has been a loopy swing. All three are hitting too many popups because they are dropping their back shoulder before driving the ball.
…which sounds like it might have come from Baylor, is drivel.
It’s pretty much what Mattingly teaches and I wouldn’t be surprised if Baylor was influenced by Mattingly. The problem is that Mattingly doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about.
It is a bit like
asking Richard Petty to design engines, isn’t it?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Iannetta is the one that gets me
a 306/.412/.524 MiLB slash line and a 264/.390/.505 in what amounts to his first full season has been essentially pushed into a back up role as a 27 year old
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Generally, the better the hitter the worse the coach
Hitting is very intuitive.
Generally, great hitters don’t know what they did, they just did it. When it comes to hitting they just spew the same crap that everyone teaches, because they don’t have a clue what worked for them or why.
Hatteberg mentions in MoneyBall
Jim Rice threatening to get him benched for being too patient, that Rice being a genetic freak wanted everyone to hit like he did
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
I just talked to Crystl Bustos
One of the greatest fast pitch softball players of all time. She tried to hit anything she could reach and teaches her hitters to do that, but not everyone can.
thats why your Posts about Miles and Gagnozzi
did not surprise me they seem like guys who get the most they can out of limited physical gifts
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Since he's lanky and doesn't use gloves to bat
he reminds me of Jorge Posada. Off the top of my head I can’t remember at all if they are mechanically similar either than both being left-handed.
There is something appealingly old school about not wearing batting gloves. I’ve heard Matt Carpenter described as a “throw back” kind of player, and I don’t really know what people mean by that other than the grittiness.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I like his swing....
…it seems compact and tight, and I like that he seems to have full extension and follow-through. He seems to pivot his hips into the ball and he keeps his head down on the ball. Maybe his swing isn’t cowsistant from at bat to at bat??
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
Minors news
no surprises here
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
why is FSNMW trying to set up Boog too
what’s with the fuckin headline??
Ryan not surprised by Gold Glove snub
BJ RAINS YOU ARE A MOTHERFUCKIN MOOOOOOORON
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
damn i hope his offense recovers
and he is a member of the Cardinals when it happens.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
why is the headline a problem?
was anyone surprised he got snubbed?
by YesWeOquendo on Nov 12, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
he didn't get snubbed, it wasn't his this year for him to get snubbed
but the headline makes it sound like he thought it should have been him
and that just isn’t true
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
that's about the 3rd article bj has done on boog that does the same thing
it would be backhanded if he weren’t such a moron.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he's quickly closing in on
landing on my list next to strauss
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
there's only one consolation
BJ Rains is not a middle manager. which is not the face of Evil, but is surely the sphincter.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
all of this Boog talk is reminding me a little bit of something
that seems like some foreshadowing.
After working with a hitting instructor during the offseason, Smith failed to record a base hit in his first 32 at bats of the 1979 season.28 Among players with enough at-bats to qualify for the 1979 National League Triple Crown, Smith finished the season last in batting average (.211), home runs (0), and RBI (27).
…
Herzog flew to San Diego to meet with Smith and Gottlieb over the Christmas holiday.44 Smith later recalled that, “Whitey told me that with me playing shortstop for the St. Louis Cardinals, we could win the pennant. He made me feel wanted, which was a feeling I was quickly losing from the Padres. The mere fact that Whitey would come all the way out there to talk to us was more than enough to convince me that St. Louis was the place I wanted to be.”
Not to say that Boog is the reincarnation of The Wizard, but I see many. many parallels here, and I really really hope we don’t live to regret this off-season the way that the padres have regretted the 81/82 off-season. There is something really truly special about the way that Brendan plays defense (which should be highly valuable to this pitching staff and organizational pitching philosophy). JMoz… just please remember that BOOG needs to stay… go ahead and chalk up his numbers this season to a wrist injury and a lack of spring training… make him spend the winter with MAC again… and tell MAC that he has one batting stance and no video to watch.
Please, Please, Please don’t do something stupid. We will regret it.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
this
it’s not that he’s a fan favorite. it’s the danger that his flukes are interpreted as trends. HIS DEFENSE IS NOT A FLUKE.
we could put that on the Rally to Restore Boog.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
actually, i don't think he's a fan favorite
he’s just our favorite
a lot of people are yelling for his head and have been doing so for a long while
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
They're the same asshats
cheering for Miles and doing the wave.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
OOOOOOHHHHHHH
is there going to be a march, I love marches. Signs and everything. Let’s do this.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I motion
we take over the Musial statue this weekend and chain ourselves to it until they decide to keep BOOG around.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
I was thinking more of a Kiener Plaza rally
there’s more room for barbecue pits.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'll Second it
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
if someone can rent a projector, just run his highlights nonstop
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i could maybe steal the office projector for the weekend
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
You know, that wouldn't be a horrendous thing to organize, logistically.
Really, you’d just need to get a permit to have a gathering in Kiener, have someone bring the projector and screen, make sure we get access to an electrical hookup. The hardest part would be picking a time and hoping the weather holds out. We’d probably even draw press coverage if we got enough people out there.
add a charity element, just to make it legit
Brendan wears that cancer awareness bracelet all the time, doesn’t he? does anyone know if he’s attached to a specific charity?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the pujols family foundation could be it...
it might help to endear Boog to the MACHING
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
Have Pappy's do the food,
Waino would show up.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
VEB should do what it does best
make t-shirts.
but again — do it for charity. otherwise Albert will be all like, where’s my pie.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I almost guarantee...
that we would be able to get Goold and / or Miklasz to show up for it.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
Which raises the issue of "how the smurf are we going to pay for this in the first place?"
Pappys will, presumably, want to get paid at least in part up front. If we’re going to have tables set up, that’ll be a rental cost. Unless someone has a projector and screen, that’ll be a rental.
And how do I guarantee that, if I set this all up, nobody shows and it’s just me sititng there talking to Strauss for an hour while he silently mocks me.
we can talk to shannan
you know he would provide the booze too and he could use it as a tax deduction for his restaurant if we were able to accept donations and divert them to a charity of Boog’s choice.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
Maybe Boog would give us some of his gift certificates?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I think...
If we were serious about this… and gave it the right lead time…. You talk to the charity and suggest that you are interested in doing a public fund-raiser / awareness event and obtain their permission / blessing. Use them as a legitimate non-profit agency which is capable of soliciting and accepting donations in exchange for tax write-offs.
use that avenue to solicit donations from places like Shannan’s, Club f15fteen, Pappy’s etc…
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
Ok, since I'm crazy and underemployed...
…if we actually really want to do this, I’ll be happy to speadhead getting everything set up.
I just need to know whether we’re talking for real, or not.
it's the future of America, yo
ok, i just thought of a problem. doesn’t MLB own the highlights? would we have to get express written consent and all that shit?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
are we trying to use them to generate a profit?
any money we got from it… would go to charity correct? IHB…. where are you?
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
they may just say charities require a different limb.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
drone has it covered...
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
We'd still need to get their permission to use them, even w/o the profit aspect.
It’s a matter of right to control the distribution of their property, etc, etc.
I’m in St. Louis. Specifically, Creve Coeur, for work.
Now that I think about it, that would present some copyright issues.
Fortunately, I’m an attorney who handles a bit of IP, so I could at least sound like I know what I’m talking about if I contact them to ask about permission to use them.
I wonder how much trouble they would give...
this would bring (good) publicity. MLB could use it as a way to show that communities will get together around teams/players for good causes. And it would help a charity.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
also you have to consign part of your soul to Bud Selig
to keep him alive.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
good point. VEB might have to make a sacrifice of a member.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
F'in zoomzoo...
…I mean, hey zoomzoom, we’ve all got an idea….
by dronemc on Nov 12, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
And what are the odds that we get this all set up...
…and two days before the event, the Cards non-tender/trade/release/execute Boog?
Man, that’d put a whole different tone on the event. Wouldn’t it?
it only means we should've done it faster?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Look, with the expansion of scope we're seeing here,
this isn’t looking like something that can be organized for this weekend or next….
it's just brainstorming
we can pare it down
and for the record, this was suggested back on Nov 1. so VEB has only itself to blame.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
there are other things that are free and easy to set up
a quick lecture on BABIP and why Boog should care about it.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
do you know the name of the charity?
that is the tantamount issue which is most pressing… also someone needs to enlist Goold, so that he can plant the bug in JMoz’s ear that this is going down and that he better not eff it up.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
I've been looking for "Brendan Ryan Charity" on google while we've been doing this.
Not figured it out yet.
ditto
someone get on twitter and ask Goold.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
sent him an e-mail at the post
don’t have twitter.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
and I can't get to FB
from behind this firewall
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
that's the Rains' thing.
that’s where the quote below came from. they basically co-opted a bunch of ballplayers to come to their event.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
ok, here's the thing
there’s a huge cancer center in L.A. that was legit enough for Fox Sports to sponsor last year.
but… should we stick to a St. Louis-based charity? it’s not like there’s a lack of medical research in-town.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
or there's this
but either way, someone needs to come up with confirmation on the charity he actually supports.
http://www.bladdercancersupport.org/
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
aah haha, I should have known
it’s Siteman
http://www.siteman.wustl.edu/contentpage.aspx?id=677
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
contact
http://www.siteman.wustl.edu/ContentPage.aspx?id=4616&content=97
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Goold thinks... Prostate Cancer
Says he will check
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
if it is, then Siteman is probably the best bet
they also have contact info (above) for third party fundraisers
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Plenty of local charities to do this for.
Makes more sense that way, esp. with the scale we’ll be operating on and with the local “Save Brendan Ryan” nature of the substance of the event.
nest problem
Is $375 aside….
An insurance certificate of property damage in the amount of $50,000 and personal liability insurance in the amount of not less than $100,000 for injury to one person and not less than $300,000 to two or more persons in each accident is required. The certificate must be an original copy. The following wording must appear on the certificate or the certificate will not be acceptable:
"The City of St. Louis and its employees and agents are additional insureds, and also the Board of Police Commissioners for the City of St. Louis and its employees and agents acting within the scope and course of their employment are additional insureds.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
though I assume we would be able to
procure that through the sponsorship of say siteman
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
this looks less and less feasible, haha
it’s probably not the dollar cost, it’s the time crunch.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
where there is a will...
there is a way.
perhaps we could also solicit logistics support from 101ESPN…. What time frame would we seriously be talking about.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
Hey Streamman,
Sounds like you’ve done things like this before, whereas I’ve got an idea of the concepts of what to do, but haven’t actually taken the steps before.
Would you mind emailing me at
sonicdeathmonkey57(at)hotmail(dot)com (that’s my spam filter addy, btw.)
maybe with a few suggestions on how I should get going if we’re going to make this happen?
Jesus, matty, are out tastes EXACTLY the same?
You get Final Fantasy and DBZ references, you’re a Card’s fan, you got the High Fidelity reference….
GET OUT OF MY HEAD!
whoa, I just like HF. don't rope me into that other
stuff. That was one of the other 8 mattys, I think.
OHHHH you know what we need? a special guest speaker.
Joe Mather.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and we need to play wiffleball in boogs honor
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
if worse comes to worst
buying in for a wiffleball game would generate some dollars. let’s say they get to keep the photographs…..
also, here’s the stinking business guys, should we need a few porta’s.
http://www.randrportabletoilets.com/
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
also: contact rinawear and see if they want in.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I like the idea of
buying in for a chance to play wiffleball, if only we could get some folks like boog and / or bombs to actually show up for it
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
let's add that garage basketball game
that would make it perfect
so even if any t-shirts/stuff/food falls through, there’ll be something to do and something that’ll make some money for the charity. also a good photo op.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
(or fake mustaches)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and hackysack
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
YES.
there you go. three events. that’ll be more than enough. set up in three different spots around Keiner, and it’s go time.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
prize for longest hackysack
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Next order of business...
date (should have been first o.o.b.)
obviously at this scale this weekend is out….
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
you need to promote it, son
make posters, go be a street team, maybe get Goold to plug it in an article or twitter or something
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
I almost think that we're looking at January, given the scale we seem to be contemplating.
And then, we’re competing with the Winter Warm up.
aim for before Thanksgiving
if you guys use all local businesses and name-drop the Cardinals
the wheels will be greased.
remove all the extraneous stuff, seriously. it’s brainstorming.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
If we want to do before Thanksgiving,
it’s going to have to be a hell of a lot more impromptu than we’ve been discussing thus far.
Like "50 random VEBers show up and stage a round robin wiffle ball tournament at Kiener with a big “SAVE BOOG” banner" and hope strauss shows up before the Stl. Police run us off.
I mean
list the expenses you absolutely have to have, (and more importantly, who’s going to physically be in charge of them… three events = how many people running them, etc), secure those, then build up from there.
work on the permits first. and keep in mind when the sun sets / lunch hours / school out or in.
and impromptu is fine. as long as what you’re doing is organized and your checklists are squared off, it does not have to be a huge event. all you need is for it to be big enough for one tv camera to show up. one.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the next step after you've secured the basics
is use the internets to your advantage. twitter is quite powerful.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I appreciate your enthusiasm, Yadi.
And I share your eagerness to share with the world the greatness that is Boog’s defense. But I just that that if we try to get things going quickly, it’ll come off as haphazard and scattershot, if it comes off at all.
If we’re gonna do this, I think the better way to go is to take the lead time we need and get things going the right way, and have the rally sometime in early-mid January.
people who do this professionally have even less lead time.
and people who round up large groups of people over the internet do even less organizing than you think. I’m tellin ya, if done correctly, a little people-skills goes a long way. especially if you tell them it’s for charity. plan out the logistics and delegate. (it’ll look great on your resume…)
the only real barrier is if the City of St. Louis is an administrative morass.
and hi… mid-January. who knows what the weather will be like. you’ve only got so much Indian summer left. and who knows what the Hot Stove will do to the team. it might be completely pointless by then.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the main thing is, don't think like an organizer with $1000s of dollars.
freedom of assembly is not that hard, these days.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Fair enough, Yadi.
I will concede that what you propse can be done.
At this point, however, all I can say is that such a thing can’t be done by me. I don’t have a twitter account, a facebook page, or even text-capability on my cell phone. If I’m gonna do this, I need lead time and to approach it a different, more traditional way.
I’m not trying to ward anyone off from doing something if they want to – just saying that I can’t achieve the goal is the idea is to have something arranged that quickly.
i mean, y'know
tell people to bring their own cameras and upload the event to youtube. tell ‘em to bring their own whiffleballs, and provide the bats. tell ’em to bring their own hackysacks. their own signs. get someone to sell fake mustaches for a dollar. we have pretty good access to the media, so it’s not like it’ll kill us to get 30 seconds on 101.1.
make sure there are permits and some portapotty’s, and there’s a designated person watching the money, and it won’t be terrible.
if anything, it’s good practice.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
If I come up with a plan, we'll need to use someone else's social media outlets to promote it.
As I mentioned, I’ve got no twitter, facebook, etc.
yeah, pretty much
like I said… don’t think like a big organizer. think of the bare bones, think of the stuff that you can take care of —
then make like a VEBer looking for car repair advice. the internet is great for getting Someone Else to do it.
I’d help you if my travel schedule weren’t so f’d for the next few weeks.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what you guys need besides the Force of the Bored and Underemployed
is the Power of the Bored and Underachieving College Student. they can probably drum up organizers and networking. and then when you tell them it’ll look good on their resume, well.
find out when T-giving break is for all the locals.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Y2S
has a valid point here Drone… when it comes down to it…. weather and the hotstove season are a big problem here… plus if we do make food available it will take a food permit from the department of health. It might be better to float a little more under the radar and try to see if we can’t get some additional support out of some of the more friendly local media types and from twitter
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
I guarantee you if the only advertising was an e-mail forward for a timed hackysack contest
the turnout would be good.
if the permit for food won’t fly, then drop the food. or call a local restaurant and see if they have leeway with the city on short notice, and let them donate independently.
like I said, prioritize the bare bones and then add on.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
..........................nothing to see here.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it appears they are trying to organize a Rally to Restore Boog
I must say, I approve heartily.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
note... we may have to call it Rally to Restore Ryan
even though the wounds of ’wick are fresh….
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
BRING BOOG BACK BARBECUE
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
i mean, 'The Boog' is still an in-joke
it won’t translate.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
BRING BACK BRENDAN BARBECUE
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
it's not really imperative that Boog understands
we’re not protesting him… we’re protesting for him. or something.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 12, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Subversive, basebolitical activities.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
An attempt to hasten the arrival of 3/31/2011.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
The GREATEST TOY EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :=8D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oqnSSCHXWY
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
speaking of Boog
here’s the G-D blurb from the charity event he and Skip and Colby attended. which we ignored because it was after a horrible loss.
http://www.globe-democrat.com/news/2010/jun/30/ryan-rasmus-and-schumaker-put-smiles-kids-faces-ch/
Dear Brendan Ryan, You may not remember me, but you helped me once, now it’s my turn to help you. I met you when you were in the minor leagues in Memphis and I was going to have a surgery at St. Jude’s. You told me not to give up. I noticed your batting average was not so good this year so I wanted to help you by giving you that same advice – don’t give up.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 12, 2010 2:21 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
chills creep down my spine, eyes getting misty.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
ya, that wasn't fair.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
this brought tears to my eyes
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
unfortunately google also produced this
the thing is, that kind of underscores how much his anxiety plays into things. he needs to know, man. he needs to know!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
a few minutes later, Ryan received a hug from bullpen catcher Jeff Murphy, whom La Russa had enlisted to ease Ryan’s anxiety
every time LaRussa seems like an okay dude…
“I’m going to quit playing you if you keep playing bad, but I’m not going to quit playing you because you don’t play in the golf tournament.”
…he goes and F’s it all up the very next second. Those were your words of encouragement to “ease” his “anxiety.” Really?
'I cannot feel this emotion. I can delegate this task to the bullpen catcher.'
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
no context
the second quote sounds more like him talking to reports that Boog.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Speaking of Al Hrabosky
he sold his — tool shed — restaurant and they are bulldozing that bitch down.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
maybe he noticed Joe Morgan got fired
and realized the purge of the bad broadcasters was coming, and is getting out while he still can
Kyle Lohse has a No-Trade Clause.
was over at the AZ Snakepit
and came across the mother of all trade fanposts, talking about possible returns for Mark Reynolds.
Their suggestion (that they would hope to turn down) is Freese, Jay, and one of Motte, Boggs, and KMac. Would you do it?
Kyle Lohse has a No-Trade Clause.
FUCK NO.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
that'll be a no
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
I mean, seriiously, are they high?
what is that, abot 10 years of cost controlled talent that’s already in the majors, for 300 strikeout, mendoza hitting, Mark F. Reynolds.
I’m gonna go post an eel as a reply.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
EEL THEM
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and then take a screenshot.
you’ll be banned in no time.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
done, and done.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Nov 12, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
heh.....it's green.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I greatly appreciate that it has more rec's there than here.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
heh...and it's gone.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
that's real bullshit
there was no reason to take it down
it was awesome
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
3 hours?
About two hours longer than I expected.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
+1
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 12, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
rec'd on both sites.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
that pic somehow sums up the 2010 season pretty well
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
That seems like a pretty decent trade...
FOR ME TO POOP ON!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Good god
Does anyone even comprehend how many strikeouts this guy has? And his OBP doesn’t make up for that?
strikeouts are irrelevent towards his value
but yeah, he’s not worth all that.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 12, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
At some point strikeouts do become a problem...
not because ground outs are better, but because such a high and climbing rate indicates a deeper problem. Dude is popping up 15% of the time, hitting line drives 13% of the time, and K-ing 43% of the time. Collectively, there’s a big problem there.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
okay yeah, but if he struck out nearly as much last year and was a fantastic hitter
If he hits for a .370 wOBA I could care less how many times he ks.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 13, 2010 3:59 AM EST up reply actions
HELL TO THE
— wait for it . .
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
FUCK THE HECK?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
It would be fun...
to have a 55% TTO guy on the team… La Russa would spontaneously combust by Memorial day.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
well I'm all for it if this actually happens
especially so if it happens on screen
I’ve never seen a person spontaneously combust
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
One thing I liked from the post
they mentioned how TLR would like Reynolds, despite his historic K rate, because of his gritty-ness. Well played Snakepit.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
did I miss anything?
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 4:16 PM EST reply actions
YES....
We’re starting a rally for Boog in Kiener Plaza, and eel bombing the Snake Pit for stupid trade ideas.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Bring Back Brendan BBQ Poster?
I think so…
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Yes
Yes, you did
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
it appears that it is a very commenty day
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
you should make sure...
that you are well informed on the Bring Back Brendan BBQ Rally in Keiner. We will need all legitimate (and illegitimate) support.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
you have my full backing of my large internet dollars accounts
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
woah now.......
I thought you were saving that for Viva El Bar.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
you can have
Viva El Bar at Boog’s Rally dagnammit
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
hmmm
this is a good suggestion too
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
comment redacted.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Boog's BBQ is better
plus the Viva El Bar talks have lost traction
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
you guys are wierd but very funny.
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
New VEB tagline.
Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.
by The Continental on Nov 12, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
It'll never happen.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
New Bleed Cubbie Blue tagline.
Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.
by The Continental on Nov 12, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
nats are interested in miles
i hope they act fast
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 12, 2010 5:05 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
I hope he hits 50 dingers and we can never afford him again.
by CodyG on Nov 12, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that or we make the man the
very first grit coach
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
rec'd
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
go figure...
Cairo and Miles… I hope they get both
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
I think I'd rather have Welley than Sup
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
No, I don't think you would.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'll just have you think for me then
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
and the world will be a better place.
/on to conquer more minions
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
awesome
I have been getting caught up on Southpark lately. the Nascar episode was genius, and the jersey shore one as well. have yet to see the second part of the two parter, mysterion or whatever it’s called.
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
why do we have to choose
just say fuck you to both….
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 12, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
GOGOGOGOGOGO Nats!
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Nov 12, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that sounds dirty
and i’ll rec it
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
please, save us Natinals!
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
first kennedy now miles can Stav be far behind?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
oh man
I will be a happy guy once Stav is off the roster
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
I think a Willingham for Stav deal is now imminent
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
sounds reasonable
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
can we get them to throw in Zimmerman(n) as well.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I think we'd have to throw in Skip as well
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
maybe shankles too
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
I will have to laugh if the Nats actually bring back the Kennedy-Miles Dream Team of Fail
They must not be aware of how well that worked out for the Cardinals.
you know what is a true accomplishment?
Miguel Cairo has been playing Major League Baseball for 15 years and has only managed to acquire 5.5 WAR. His continued employment is an unsolvable mystery.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
heh....11 years .1 bWAR. ouch.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Dan O'Dowd got a 27 year old Jermaine Dye straight up for him
then let Billy Beane pick his pocket for two crap prospects
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
THIS.
Is why the Royals only have -one- ZERO World Series titles.
(well and many other “deals” such as this)
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
You know...
…the Royals swapped Jermaine Dye for Neifi Perez. That is not a missprint.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 12, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
Actually you do know that...
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 12, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
yeah and a 28 year old Neifi making 4+million
and Dye had just had the best year of his career
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Rentaria wants to finish his career as a Cardinal!
Or as a Marlin, whichever.
It’s based on a translation from Spanish, so, take it for what it’s worth I guess.
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
I wouldn't mind seeing him riding the bench as a Cardinal
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
unless he wants to play second base...
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
that could possibly be a nice-enough platoon at 2B (Skiparia)
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I guess he could fill in a little at short as well (unless brendan turns it around at the plate, I think he can)
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
To interrupt basebolitical organizing and dreams of a Milesian capital:
Justin Morneau wants fences moved in. Also, 4 strikes per plate appearance.
(Ok, the last part might be unfair, but really Morneau? Best home record in the AL and you want to make it easier for everybody?)
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
This just in,
Jonathan Sanchez wants walks to be banned. If you can’t hit his pitches you should go play another sport.
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
Why do hitters always seem to ignore the fact
That these kinds of things benefit their team’s pitchers as much as it hurts their team’s hitters?
Sure, maybe it’s hard to hit the ball out to right-center in Target Field. I wonder how Scott Baker and his 35.6% GB rate feels about that. Probably not quite as annoyed about it as you, Mr. Morneau.
Alright! now there is hope that CodyG
doesn’t end up sponging off of the taxpayers
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
New Nats unis
The big W is OK for an alt jersey, but they need at least one variant to say Nationals or even Natinals. The star-spangled W is awful. No more DC caps, either. Over all grade: D.
Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.
by The Continental on Nov 12, 2010 6:14 PM EST reply actions
How many uni's does a team need?
But the most important thing:Think of how good would Miles look in those.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I would love for Horton to let all Nationals fans know how good Miles looks in one.
Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.
by The Continental on Nov 12, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
I like the second from the left best
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
The Star Spangled W is America...
…You don’t trifle with America.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 12, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure if basebolitical rally talk serious...
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
of course it's serious......
we’re looking for organizing volunteers as we speak.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Okay but really,
make a fanpost if it is, because I think I’m in but I can’t tell what the hell is going on and who said what when in the subthread above.
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
I came here to see if VEB was freaking out about this
Only to find it hasn’t been posted yet.
Changing course from a recent statement that he would prefer to return to the Giants, Renteria told reporters in his hometown of Barranquilla, Colombia yesterday that he would like to retire playing either for the Cardinals or the Marlins.
[…]
“God sent me a message through the MVP, and I don’t know if he did it so that I would retire or so that I would keep going,” Renteria said. “In any case, I spoke with important baseball people like Tony La Russa, Bobby Cox, and Manny Mota, and they suggested that I continue, and I’m motivated.”
Thoughts? From a purely emotional standpoint, I’d love to see Edgar back in a Cardinals uniform one more time.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
this would explain that
Rentaria
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
hey you know what?
i think its inevitable that tony will get an old utility middle infielder… better it be Edgar than Miles so im for it…
my only caveat is that TGreene will get shafted again…..
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 12, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
I would put money on Edgar Renteria being a Cardinal next year.
Cash.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
Paper
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
Seriously, I will set up a Paypal and do this shit.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
so maybe not paper... more like...
wire
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
I think they should
I guess boog could be a defensive replacement, unless he somehow lights the world on fire with offense (90% chance that won’t happen though)
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
how many veteran Cardinals must block Boog, seriously
it’s the story of his career
his biography will be “Blocked — While Spinning”
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 12, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, it would be fitting for Renteria to return in this respect
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 12, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
i weep for the future
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 13, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
yeah
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 13, 2010 1:16 AM EST up reply actions
...
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/11/11/1807401/brendan-ryan-gold-gloves-tsuyoshi-nishioka#51712004
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 13, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
beeeeeeeer news.
- Anheuser-Busch Sues MLB
- Meanwhile, craft beers take over St. Louis.
- Ernie Hays got out just in time.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
shouldn't that headline be In-Bev sues MLB?
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
pretty much
it’s the headline.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Secret weapon is interviewing for the Mets' open manager spot
Just say no, Mets! We need him!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 12, 2010 8:51 PM EST reply actions
I hope he gets it.
LaRussa’s desiccated corpse, animated by sheer force of grit and driven by his never ending quest to assemble every line-up possible is going to be Cardinals manager for the entire 21st century.
I just hope Jose is getting more than a “fulfill our minority quota” interview.
Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.
by The Continental on Nov 12, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Someone needs to remind Oquendo that the Mets traded him.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
Yes, we do.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 13, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not if we have position players playing their actual positions.
Of course, the likelihood of that happening…
Okay. You’re probably right.
BOOM
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 13, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
so i went and saw this new movie "Skyline" tonight...
please take my word for it – Do NOT NOT NOT waste your time with that bullshit
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
I saw the commercials and thought
“Oh, I’ve seen this. Only it was fourteen years ago and it was called Independence Day.”
And then I felt really old.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
oh no, you don't understand
i wish it were independence day
started out promising, and then POOP
independence day would have still been good, this shit was horrible
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Sad
It seems like fighting alien invasions should always at least be entertaining if not good. But you make it sound like there is no redeeming quality to it.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
no plot
a bunch of obvious mistakes
and the ending…
just… just don’t watch it
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
you should really watch Godzilla then
the one with Matthew Broderick
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 12, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
oh my god, no, no, don't do that, i'm totally joking.
i’m not that cruel… really…
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 12, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
i've seen it several times
at least there was dialogue. primitive as it might have been
but Skyline – this movie is just indescribably, inexplicably bad with the worst ending in the history of … motherfuckin everything
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
was it sponsored by apple?
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
it sure looked like it
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
"TODAY, WE CELEBRATE OUR... ummm... line???"
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 12, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
By the way, for those who recommended Avatar the Last Airbender
I just watched the first episode, not bad. Interesting set up. I will watch some more tonight.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
get to the third one
I think it’s the third one.
I’ve never seen it in big chunks, except for parts of Earth Kingdom. my experience was very much serialized.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 12, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Third episode? Third season?
I need to know, man!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
third episode
sorry, i thought i mentioned it earlier. or something.
i’ve probably got too many tabs.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 12, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe you did, I dunno
That subthread got pretty big. I couldn’t remember it all.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
mojo's body is found months later in a moldy fridge
at the bottom of Lake DeWitt
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 12, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
I would just like to say
Fuck the mobile veb…….and I want my z button on my droid. Also how cool is it that swype picks up fuck.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
http://lifehacker.com/5547037/change-the-user-agent-on-an-android-phone
Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 13, 2010 1:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh sweet fuck you're awesome.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Good news
suck it strauss
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
WCBW's comment there is... well, typically incongruent, I guess.
Also, staydangolsafeouthereshootinvarmitscolby
Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.
by The Continental on Nov 13, 2010 1:45 AM EST up reply actions
the link to the original post
by colby’s dad has……….some…………..really good ones…
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
nice
what are the odds that strauss reports colby has recently bought a house?
by YesWeOquendo on Nov 13, 2010 2:40 AM EST up reply actions
My first thought when I originally read that he was selling a house
was “gee, I wonder if he’s buying a new house. He is a professional baseball player with a kid. Maybe he wants to use his fortune to find a better home for him and his family.”
Crazy, I know! But sometimes our wacky predictions come true.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I think he will ignore that fact for the sake of his narrative
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 13, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
I bet TLR didn't go on the hunting trip too
Just saying.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 13, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Fucking California
My ticket was only $20, which I was happy about
Apparently in this state, however, you also have to pay a “penalty fine” of 6x your base fine + your base fine + taxes and shit. So I paid $175
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
If I would've plead not guilty, I would've had to pay $100 bail anyways, and then pay for a plane ticket back to CA for the court date because I'd have already graduated
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
You could just keep requesting push backs of the trial date
That’s what my (lawyer) dad does when he wants to get out of tickets. They won’t care about it enough to fight you.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 13, 2010 3:24 AM EST up reply actions
Well, then you should factor how much you actually want to go back to CA
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
damn
i thought you were cute?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Aren't people and businesses moving out of California because of this sort of thing?
/lolitics
Does that really count as politics? It’s more like economics. Anyway, this is an old thread so I feel comfortable saying something like that without worrying about my fellow VEBers freaking out.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Well, you could argue that its also just absurd rents
and workday commutes. People really weren’t meant to live in the desert in large numbers. Once environmental impact stars getting priced properly, there are going to be a lot of people in Phoenix, LA and Las Vegas that are going to have issues making ends meet.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Mad Max!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 13, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Oh man it's gonna be so sweet!
WHO RUN BARTER TOWN???
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Thank god you didn't get a $100 ticket
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
I just got a $205 ticket dismissed,
so VEB came out ahead $30.
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
Take that, establishment!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 13, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
DanUp, tom, rb – hit the breadline. Congrats, Azru and I welcome our new robotic sportswriter overlords.
Too stupid and sissy-like to say that you want out.
You make the eyes of a million girls and think you'll make them shout.
by The Continental on Nov 13, 2010 12:55 PM EST reply actions
they get *breadlines*?
lucky
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i probably am late on this
but edgar wants to retire a cardinal or marlin. i think he burnt the cardinal bridge by signing with boston after the 04 WS, but maybe that’s just me…
Stupid people wanting to make more money
what a jerk!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
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