Carpenter to the Yankees?

Which I don’t think would be that much

aside from Carp, currently your rotation consist of:
- an Adam Wainwright who hopefully won’t need fixing any time soon,
- a rookie not too far removed from TJ surgery,
- a Kyle Lohse
- and ???

whatever you can get back for a mid 30s, multiple-times-broken-could-break-again-any-minute Chris Carpenter who commands a whole lot of money and now everyone thinks has a temper issue will not even begin to make up for the suitcase shaped crater you’ll create

also, out SS really doesn’t need upgrade, he needs to get his swing figured out

i wish you’d have picked a more descriptive title for this post, my heart sank when i saw it

that is the usual mode of operation, I didn’t read this

his salary is getting big and the chances of being worth it are terrifyingly slim. However, he is still considered an Ace and would fetch a good return (maybe not great). We get the benefit of added salary space and a good prospect. I would shop him.

Hughes for carp would be shockingly hilarious. And Chad Tracy is not someone you trade for. He’s someone you wait for the other team to drop. He’s a veteran, not a prospect.

what exactly are you suggesting? Carp for who?
Although my confidence in Carp remaining an Ace or #1 starter is waning, I don’t think I’d be dealing him away.
His stock is still high and he could bring something decent our way but good starters are harder to find than four leaf clovers and 2nd basemen, not to mention all the time and money the Cardinals already have invested in Carp.
 Who would you suggest to fill Carp’s slot?
The Cards have holes for sure but they also have baggage. (Lohse, for one).
I’d rather try to package Lohse and Skip, and maybe a box lunch for a decent 2nd baseman.
 And since the Cards like to experiment (see Skip), why not see if Craig has what it takes to play a little hot corner in a pinch? With a little luck (well, maybe a lot of luck), he could at least suffice and still be a threat with the stick.
 With the “Albert Contract” thing being the factor that it is, it seems reasonable to expect the Cardinals to be weak somewhere….more than likely it’ll be around the horn and right field. There are too many to fix all at once while being on a tight budget.
 At least there’s hope that Freeze will be reliable next season, and hope that Ryan will see a shrink or a hypnotist or something and be convinced that it’s really 2009.
 But Skip and Miles just won’t cut it at 2nd. That’s just too weak.
With Freeze and Ryan playing the way they should, the left side of the infield looks great to me. I wouldn’t mind concentrating on 2nd base as a top priority and using Franklin, Lohse, Craig / Jay, Pagnozi and Stavanoha as a means of fixing it.
 Backup catcher might develop into a weakness, or cause Yadi to fall over, but Anderson may do ok.
All in all, it might be the best time to trade Carp or the worst time, depending on your outlook. Me? I’d keep him…..and I’d keep him from the Yankees.

I am not sure how I feel about this, but first of all I gotta say kudos for at least being imaginative with this “trade possibility” fanpost.
The Yankees do seem like one of few teams that might be willing to take on a player like Carpenter, with his pedigree, age, and contract. I will admit they have a few interesting pieces that might plug some holes, but as other posters have said I am not sure what to make of our rotation right now without Carp in 2011. Miller and Martinez are just too far away. We could sign Westbrook, hope Garcia continues his success, and hope Lohse bounces back a little, and then we’re still left wondering what to do about a fifth starter. So, it could possibly provide some stability, but it could also destabilize our rotation significantly. Maybe acquiring Joba would help, I dunno.
Thought-provoking, though! I like this kind of fanpost.

While the need to fill our middle infield would most likely be satisfied by the trade, our rotation would suffer that much more. Then you’d have Waino-Garcia-Lohse and two unknowns. One unknown is bad enough.

I will now read the fan post.

just as that awful contract he signed becomes reasonable?? Sheesh… Carp for prospects would guarantee a ticket out of town for the mang.

• would we get a fair enough return?
• would we use the money that is now off the books on a FA (probably not Lee, but perhaps Kuroda would be a good replacement)

So what would constitute a good return IMO?

• IF prospect
• pitching prospect
• pitching prospect

The Cards have gotten lucky with Carp’s health for the last 2 years. I am worried about testing our luck one more time. Hughes/Nunez/and another B-B+ prospect would work for me. Hughes would be going to the inferior league plus he is cost controlled and will hopefully continue to develop. Nunez can replace Ryan and actually provide offense at the shortstop position.

for those not in favor of a trade what kind of performance do you see carp having the next few years?
considering age/injury risk and salary cost what kind of surplus do you see carp providing over other players who could be signed during FA?
How long do you think carp has before he declines into an average/ below average pitcher? and would you really be ok with having him once he is being overpaid?

Done.

:D

A man can dream right?

:=8O

I like the idea of giving Chad Tracy a minor league deal with a ST invite.

A move like this would trigger a massive yard sale/bookburning to be held in my front yard. Why not just trade Yadi to the Cubs for a few prospects? Blasphemy!!!!!!!!