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ST. LOUIS - SEPTEMBER 16: Brendan Ryan #13 of the St. Louis Cardinals throws to first base against the San Diego Padres at Busch Stadium on September 16 2010 in St. Louis Missouri.  (Photo by Dilip Vishwanat/Getty Images)


Yesterday, the American League Gold Gloves were announced. Oh, the winner of the Derek Jeter Glove was announced as well, and Derek Jeter won.

Of course, all the AL Gold Gloves taught us this year is just how stupid the award is. Again. 'Cause, you know, we didn't get the message the hundred or so times we've had it drilled into our skulls before. Most years the award for best defensive whatever just goes to the best offensive whatever, but even that wasn't good enough this time around. Apparently this year the voters all just went down the ballot until they recognised a dude who plays for the Yankees and they've heard of. Well, except Alex Rodriguez, of course, because that guy sucks.

Oh, well. No point in letting the stupidity of a group of voters ruin our days, right? You're damned right I'm right!

Anyway, the National League GG awards will be announced today, and the season is far enough in the rear view mirror now I feel fairly comfortable doing a bit of retrospecticising. We all know the Cardinal offense was a little, um, iffy in 2010. On the other hand, relatively little has really been said (or written), about whatever value the Cards derived from the defense. We all know Skip Schumaker was terrible, because writers like me won't stop quoting his UZR numbers, but just how did the Cardinals perform with the glove overall?

Star-divide

Well, to start off, let me say this: Albert Pujols and Brendan Ryan were both still pretty awesome on defense this year. Albert wasn't quite as brilliant as he had been the past few seasons, but he was still better than average, which in combination with the rest of the stuff he does is just, well, super. Brendan was outstanding, especially by +/-, which absolutely loves him. Let's put it this way: plus/minus wants to take Brendan behind the middle school and get him pregnant. Understand?

On the downside, Colby had a bad season, Skip was awful, and while David Freese was pretty much okay, his replacements were not. Here's some numbers:

Player Runs Saved UZR Runs Saved +/-
Albert Pujols 1.5 4
Brendan Ryan 11.5 24
Matt Holliday 8.2 8
David Freese -0.6 -4
Colby Rasmus -6.5 -4
Ryan Ludwick 1.2 7
Skip Schumaker -15.4 -9
Felipe Lopez -2.1 -2
Jon Jay -4.9 0

Note: the numbers used in each case are for the player's primary position. In Lopez's case I used third base; Jon Jay and Ludwick both go in as right fielders. 

I could do some more, but I think that's probably enough. I mean, do you honestly want to know what sort of defensive value Pedro Feliz brought to the table? (Spoiler alert: no, you do not. I actually did look it up, and it ain't pretty.)

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, but I sort of am all the same. Why? Because the defense on this team essentially looks like the offense. You have three really, really good players, one or two that are kind of meh, and then a bunch who are just godawful. In the case of the defense it's Albert, Holliday, and Brendan, whereas on offense the good players are Albert, Holliday, and Rasmus.

Speaking or Rasmus, both systems hate his defense in 2010, and I'm fairly willing to take that at almost face value. Colby did not have a good season with the glove this past year. I'm probably wishcasting psychology here, but it seemed to me he had a bit of a crisis of confidence. I could just be buying into some half-assed narrative, though, too. Still, watching the orange and white one night in and night out he looks more like the outstanding defender he was in 2009 than the below-average guy he was in 2010 to me. The truth is probably somewhere in between, but I personally am optimistic Colby is a much, much better fielder than he looked to be this year.

Skip really is bad. I know it seems like I'm always picking on the guy, but I swear it isn't my intent. Still, it's tough to ignore the fact he cost the team somewhere in the neighbourhood of one to one and a half wins just with the glove. And unlike Colby, who we have seen outstanding defense from and has the talent to do it again, I think this may be the absolute best we could reasonably hope for from Skip.

I should have put him in the table, but I didn't, and now I don't feel like going back and changing it, but Tyler Greene was a little less than a run below average by UZR and a run above average by +/-. For some reason there seems to be some angst about Tyler's defense, but I've been fairly happy with his work in the field, to be honest. (He was also a run better than average at second base by +/-, and half a run below by UZR. Just to throw another log on the "Tyler should be playing more" fire.)

The only other players of note who got enough playing time to be worth worrying about were Randy Winn and Aaron Miles, in my opinion, and neither one were very good. Miles was right around neutral, Winn was worse.

Now, please don't think I'm trying to make any statements about these players' abilities going forward based on this very limited sampling. Albert and Holliday are really the only players we have large enough samples of to judge their true talent level, and both are plus fielders. Still, just looking at the players, I think these numbers mostly jibe up pretty well with what we saw in 2010. Colby struggled to throw the ball and looked like he was thinking himself into knots out there. Brendan was so good you almost (almost, I said!), forgot about how lousy he was at the plate.

But what we can see here is that the 2010 Cardinals helped themselves, a little, overall. By either UZR or +/- the Cardinals were a little better than average, but they did it in much the same way the offense got to the middle of the pack: a couple players put up great performances that mostly carried along the rest of the squad. So while we're talking about a marked lack of depth in the offense and being top heavy, the defense is really cruising along in pretty much the same condition. Still, it could have been worse, I suppose.

So back to the awards which prompted me to put together a graph of defensive metrics in the first place: the Gold Gloves. I expect Molina to win one, and that's it. If they did the outfield in a sensible way, Holliday would have a pretty good chance in left, but that's not the way they do it. Pujols won't win one because, well, just because. He didn't win the last couple season, when he was flat-out amazing; I can't imagine he'll win one this year when he was a tick below his own ridiculous standards on both sides of the ball. Brendan won't win one because he doesn't hit much and plays in St. Louis. Just the way it is. And yes, it does suck.

Then again, maybe all the voters will remember they heard a lot about this Rasmus kid during the season, but they don't quite recall why, but hey, I know his name! So maybe he wins. Then other teams' fans can bitch for once while we try to justify our player winning an award he didn't deserve. That sounds kind of nice, actually.

The Baron's Playlist for the 10th of November, 2010

"Congratulations" - MGMT

"Be My Baby" - the Ronettes

"Babies" - Pulp

"Mother" - John Lennon

"Parents" - Descendents

"A Better Son/Daughter" - Rilo Kiley

"Suddenly Everything Has Changed" - the Flaming Lips

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Nope.

Can’t stand children, myself.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Nov 10, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

high five for this one

/is high five frowned upon nowadays?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 10, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

it's a bit childish.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 10, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Nothin' beats a solid fisting.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

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by vexedtechie on Nov 11, 2010 5:47 AM EST up reply actions  

That's what she said...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Nov 11, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

"A Better Son/Daughter" by Rilo Kiley is a wonderful song!

old too. nice playlist.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 10, 2010 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

Execution of All Things

was the pinnacle of Jenny Lewis’s career. Everything since then has been a little worse than the thing before it.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Nov 10, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know, I have really liked all of Rilo's albums...

I haven’t heard enough of her solo stuff to have too much of an opinion.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 10, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

They're good, yes.

But.

Execution was perfect.

More Adventurous was a little worse than Execution.

Blacklight was a little worse than Adventurous.

Her first solo record was a little worse than Rilo Kiley.

Her second solo record was a little worse than the first.

And now this Jenny and Johnny thing is a little worse than all that other stuff.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Nov 10, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Respectable opinion. I totally understand what you're getting at.

I’m not sure if I totally agree, but that is inconsequential.

It’s nice that someone besides me knows more than a few songs of Rilo (and it’s alum).

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 10, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Well...

Jenny and Johnny maybe a little worse than all that other stuff, but it is still better than all of the other stuff I hear on every radio station not 88.1…

"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.

by pattimagee on Nov 10, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Considered it.

However, I already had a song titled Mother, and I like the Lennon one better. Also considered Mammy, but thought it might be in bad taste, and Chocolate Genius’s My Mom, but didn’t feel like crying.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Nov 10, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

floyd?

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by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

there's a lennon triute album for amnesty which is a fearful confection of really great and really awful covers.

christina aguilera singing “mother” is surprisingly non-awful. averil lavigne singing “imagine” should be grounds for execution of her and whoever let her sing that song. regina spektor sings “real love” and is amazing. there’s a great “watching the wheels” cover and a decent postal service cover of “god bless our love.”

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Nov 10, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Regina Spektor is always amazing

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 11, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

there are better covers out there, though

not strictly beatles, but lennon nonetheless. Fiona Apple does a great cover of across the universe, and pearl jam does a respectable you’ve got to hide your love away. No one, can ever, ever touch lennon’s “Mother,” though.

by mattyp on Nov 11, 2010 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

speaking of covers

Levi’s commissioned something called the pioneer sessions, which contain some really badass covers. Check out passion pit’s “tonight, tonight” or the dirty projector’s “I dreamed I saw St. Augustine” or the Kills “Pale Blue Eyes.”

by mattyp on Nov 11, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

come to think of it

I don’t even care if it was halfway respectable, someone should punch and divorce Aguilera for covering it….oh, somebody already did?

by mattyp on Nov 11, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

This was probably an inappropriate response

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 11, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I like Tyler Greene.

Hope he makes the team as either a utility guy or the starting 2Bman. He can’t be worse than Skip and he has more power.

by spants on Nov 10, 2010 1:33 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Me too

Greene needs to be on the roster coming out of ST.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Nov 10, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

either he is or he's gone

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by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

One option remaining

Greene was added to the 40 man roster on 11/20/2008. First option burned in 2009, second option burned last year. He can still enjoy the Memphis shuttle. Stavinoha on the other hand ran out of options last season. Hawksworth has to stay with the big club too.

by ubeddie on Nov 10, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm,

i thought i had read otherwise

where does stav stand on this? ‘10 was his last option year wasn’t it?

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by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

i think ubeddie is right

but i’ve seen articles that have said differently

also Stav is done with options

by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 10, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

And we won't be spending $$$ on O Hudson

Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Jay/Craig 9, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, M Carpenter 5, Molina 2, T Greene 4, Ryan 6, pitcher

by gocards62 on Nov 10, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed.

I really don’t think Hudson will be worth the money.

by spants on Nov 10, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

the shadow of albert's extension is so threatening

i hope there’s some resolution soon. it’s going to be difficult to move forward when nobody knows what kind of resources are available

by YesWeOquendo on Nov 10, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Like the Bulldog Hoverboard.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I really wouldn't mind this

a keystone combo of Ryan and Greene would make for some great defense, I believe.

Of course… who then bats lead-off? Jay maybe, if he’s playing RF that day? Do they give it to Brendan full time, or perhaps only when Craig is in RF? I mean, I know it will be a different lineup everyday because Tony is the manager, but… really – we need someone to get on base fairly consistently in the 1 and 2 spots.

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Nov 10, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

boog cannot bat leadoff

please no more. we need someone with .350+ OBP up there, which is the best reason to get someone like hudson. or maybe pull a trade for the helmet masher

by mikey_mac on Nov 10, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Check the sig
Of course… who then bats lead-off?

Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Jay/Craig 9, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, M Carpenter 5, Molina 2, T Greene 4, Ryan 6, pitcher

by gocards62 on Nov 10, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

That team would make Jeff Gordon have a stroke.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

that lineup

makes me have a stroke. it’s not good.

by mikey_mac on Nov 10, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

That lineup makes me reach for the towel.

"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy

by hazel on Nov 10, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

really? we pretty much saw what that lineup could do last year

but now, swap in someone who’s never played above AA as our #5 hitter? really?

by mikey_mac on Nov 10, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

majority of 3B starts last year

were by the Lopez/Feliz combo with Freese only getting 64 starts before breaking down and being carted away by the equine ambulance. Skip had 73% of the starts at 2B with Miles and Lopez covering 22%. His lineup is missing Ludwick’s bat from last year.

by ubeddie on Nov 10, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry, i should've been clearer

I basically equated Freese/Lopez/Feliz with Carpenter, Skip/Miles/Lopez/Greene with Greene, and Ludwick/Jay/Winn/Craig with Jay/Craig… I don’t see the changes being marked improvements.

by mikey_mac on Nov 10, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Freese v Lopez/Feliz

Freese in 270 PA’s
.296/.361/.404/.765

Lopez/Feliz in 372 PA’s (while playing 3B for Lopez)
.240/.295/.307/.602

by ubeddie on Nov 10, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

yes

but is Freese/Lopez/Feliz markedly better than Carpenter?

by mikey_mac on Nov 10, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

M Carpenter

should get the opportunity to start at 3b for Memphis this year. I think the FO still sold/hoping on Freese being healthy.

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Nov 10, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Where have you been?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 10, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

let me guess, you stabbed someone

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 10, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

i think that's a shiv

the verb is shank

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Ol' Stabby McStaberson strikes again

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 10, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

silly of me

i should have known you were hardcore

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It was smuggled in via a pie.

By a man wearing cheap shoes…

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 10, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

in bed

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"

Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."

by riftraftredbird on Nov 10, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

you not a pie man er girl ?

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"

Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."

by riftraftredbird on Nov 10, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

just a few .... im really tired , my bad

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"

Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."

by riftraftredbird on Nov 10, 2010 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that a Three Musketeers reference?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 11, 2010 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Technically it would be a "Twenty Years After" reference.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 11, 2010 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

btw, this is on the test

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Greinke and Lincecum win Cy's one year,

and then we go back to the stone age the next.

"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy

by hazel on Nov 10, 2010 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

To be fair

The managers vote on the GG, while the BBWAA votes on those other awards. I wouldn’t say we are back in the stone age until Sabathia wins this year’s AL Cy Young Award.

Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM

by Choix003 on Nov 10, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Sabathia over Hernandez is at least defensible.

Sabathia is one of the top 3 pitchers if not the top. Jeter is among the worst shortstops in the league.

"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy

by hazel on Nov 10, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

you mean..

Liriano/Lee/Price…right?….right?!

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt

by tgreenfield on Nov 10, 2010 5:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

lee > felix > verlander

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by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

by what metric?

not WAR, FIP, xFIP, tERA, K/BB or ERA

he’s not even a top-5 pitcher in any of those categories

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by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

rWAR

RA adjusted for defense, ballpark and quality of opposition.

It still amazes me that saber minded people compare CC’s and Felix’s unadjusted stats considering the defense and ballparks that each guy pitches under.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 10, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

then, xFIP

felix – 3.26 (3rd AL, 7th MLB)
cc – 3.78 (10th AL, 25th MLB)

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by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

and rWAR still has felix over cc

by a non-negligible amount

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by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

you are easily amazed

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 11, 2010 3:16 AM EST up reply actions  

top-5 AL, of course

throw in NL pitchers and i gotta start scrolling down to find his name

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by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Colby actually had a very average season

with an incredibly bad four week-ish stretch in May that killed his overall numbers.

I had hoped he’d have a defensive surge (like the soda) to bring his numbers back to average, but he just plaid super average defense the rest of the year.

YOU’RE ON NOTICE, COLBY RASMUS.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 1:43 PM EST reply actions  

Is anyone else having a problem with Z-ing to new comments?

For instance, a post will have 5 new comments. It will let me Z to none, or maybe one or two. Then it stops working. It’s done this on several posts, including this one which has very few comments. I’m set to auto-refresh and I’ve never had this problem before.

by spants on Nov 10, 2010 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

Working fine for me this morning.

I’ve had issues in the past, though.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Nov 10, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Huh?

I thought you were all gung-ho on Chrome?

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Nov 10, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

When I switched to Ubuntu I started using Firefox again.

Now I’m pretty much only using Windows 7 and have stayed with Firefox.

by spants on Nov 10, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I see.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Nov 10, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

have you tried IE 9 at all?

I’m weirdly curious about it, but the computers in the school lab are all IE 8.

by DanUpBaby on Nov 10, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

They decided not to implement a spell-checker again

You know, that really, really important feature that has been in Firefox since 2006 and in Chrome since its release. Yeah, they couldn’t be bothered with that for IE9.

by mojowo11 on Nov 10, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

i for one am shocked SHOCKED

that they finally decided to support html 5 and more css3
it’s like microsoft finally hired someone competent by mistake

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 10, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

who didn't put in spell check.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 10, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

cause he can spell

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 10, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you running Beta?

it’s been a bit wonky for me the last few days. Z’ing is working fine though.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 10, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

did skip really have a worse 2nd year defensively?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

No, about the same.

It felt worse, though, if only because we saw improvement the first season and watched him stall out this year.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Nov 10, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Since I'm too lazy to do it

does anyone have the similar defensive ratings for the AL gold glovers? Just how bad was Jeter this past year?

by ArkansasTravs on Nov 10, 2010 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

He was

4.7 runs below average according to UZR, and — wait for it — 13 runs below average by plus/minus.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Nov 10, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

That's about what I would have thought.

enough below average to make it hard to argue that the defensive metrics undervalued him for some reason. Maybe not Skip Schumacher, but definitely NOT Matt Holliday, even. Managers and coaches vote for GG, corrrect? One would think they would have a better idea of who is a good fielder and who isn’t. Do they also vote for Silver Slugger? If not, maybe they should, and make the ballots simultaneous so it is clear to them that one is an offensive award, the other defensive.

by ArkansasTravs on Nov 10, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Rejuvenile

had a good post on it yesterday.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 10, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

All the Yankee winners were below average...

all the non-Yankee winners above average.

Screw you, you freakin stats nerd

by guayzimi on Nov 10, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice to see Descendents on your playlist...

…even tho it’s misspelled. (Common mistake.) Didn’t know anyone else here listened to the punk-a rock-a.

by Matt Bug on Nov 10, 2010 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

Ah, crap.

You’re right. Damn it. Now I have to go fix it.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Nov 10, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm Not a Loser...

…still my favorite Descendents song…
:=8)

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 10, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

love 'Merican myself

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 10, 2010 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Bernie via radio...

says that Cardinals GG winners are Yadi and THA MACHING.

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Nov 10, 2010 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

poor BOOG.

And I must say I’m shocked they gave it to Albert.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 10, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

They're not official until 2:30 CDT

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Why not give it to Gonzalez again?

What’s different this year compared to last, other than Pujols seems gimpier every year.

Screw you, you freakin stats nerd

by guayzimi on Nov 10, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Pujols won't win MVP this year.

so…they’ll give him a GG.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 10, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a good point...

it’s kind of why I thought Tulo was the likely winner at SS.

Screw you, you freakin stats nerd

by guayzimi on Nov 10, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

unofficial

it’s just what several different sources have been telling him since round about saturday

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Nov 10, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

instant carnage is gonna get you...

Since we’re onto a new thread, I’ll re-post this and hope I’ve not violated some holy VEB blog rule:

Uuuuurrribe!!!????…….

Three of six MLBTR writers predict Uribe to land with STL.

http://tinyurl.com/324tkb8

Anyone else see this? Thoughts? Is this like sportscasters predicting the weather? I see the Batman likes the idea. I’m not too keen on it for a variety of reasons – mainly $ and a gawd-awful OBP. The same group of writers also unanimously predicted Westbrook signing with us.

Have to admit, I’m at a loss when it comes to solving MI depth. My guess is Mo will take care of this via trade rather than FA. I’d like to see Sean Rodriguez here, but the Rays probably would not go for that.
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by Matt Bug on Nov 10, 2010 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

Juan Uribe. . .

is spanglish for Aaron Miles, maybe?

by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 10, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

With about the same terrible BABIP as Brendan Ryan's last year....

Uribe fWAR = 3.2
Ryan fWAR = 1.0

Both at SS.

Juan Uribe would be an upgrade anywhere in our MI. Depending on the price (as always), I would gladly install him at 2B next year. Plus, he can play 2B, SS, or 3B if needed.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 10, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

So would he be best as the starting 2B,

or as the infield super-sub spelling all the usual starters as needed?

My guess would be that his contract would most likely be such as to be rather expensive as a sub, super or otherwise.

by ArkansasTravs on Nov 10, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't get the MGMT thing, boring band

anyways, Tyler Greene for keystone duties!

Albert might get a GG as a makeup award for the last couple of seasons.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

What is the most popular band you do like?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

this is pretty boring but, it's probably Radiohead

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I figured it'd be something I'd never heard of.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

if you're not kidding, i'm never talking to you again

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Poor wording on my behalf.

Radiohead is one of my favorite bands ever.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

good man

i’m glad we can continue communicating

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

My husband dislikes them.

Of course, he has notoriously shitty taste in music.

by spants on Nov 10, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

the two sentences are redundant

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twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't like them

And I resent the implication of spants’ comment above.

by mojowo11 on Nov 10, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

do you just not like the vocals, or what?

I could see them having a Rush-like characteristic, where people don’t like certain vocal phrasings. the music though is top notch

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 11, 2010 3:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I like some stuff of their I've heard

Other stuff made me start to fall asleep while driving and I had to make my friend turn it off.
I dunno, I feel like Radiohead has taken on this perception with their fans that anybody who doesn’t like them must be crazy, like they’re the Beatles or Mozart or something. I don’t think any musician is so good that people can’t reasonably not love them.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 11, 2010 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

i liked them until they put down the guitars

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Nov 10, 2010 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

you privvy to future records or something?

or are you talking about when they stop exclusively using guitars?

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Just guessing

But he probably (by that I mean obviously) meant the latter.

by mojowo11 on Nov 10, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, thats pretty much insane

when Radiohead put down their guitars, that’s when they became legends.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 11, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm going to see Marnie Stern tonight

she’s sort of popular

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

There it is!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

you've never heard of Marnie Stern??

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

oh well, that's a good thing since I'm buying my ticket at the door

don’t want it to sell out!

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope.

I imagine it’s some sort of hedge fund?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

she's probably the best female guitar player to ever live

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I did not know Mellisa Ethridge changed her name.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

wtf

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Marnie Stern has 3 albums out that have all had some press on mainstream sites and mags

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I think this is akin

to asking a casual Mariners fan in Vancouver what they think of Brendan Ryan’s +/-.

I like music, I just don’t have time to obsess over it anymore.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I actually research this shit

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm better at that than at sabermetrics ;)

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I used to and would like to again.

I need a secretary.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I can keep namedropping bands here if you like

I’m serious about that Tame Impala rec… especially for mysterui, since he like the Beatles a lot (the vox remind me of Beatles stuff).

also, it’s nice only having to work part time!

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

yooooou will never come close to how i feeeeeel

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 10, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

yup!

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Facebook updates

Cards Fan in Chitown links to so many offbeat music videos and whatnot he’s pushing all the important Facebook updates off the front page … wait, how did this morph into a Fan Post rant?

I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson

by Solanus on Nov 10, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

there are important facebook updates?

the people you know must be a lot different than the people I know.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

The sarcasm started at that point

I was trying to think of the best way to put it and the “yelled out suggestion from the studio audience” (ADHD can be a bitch) was that little bit, which has been used to blast people who publish unworthy Fan Posts on here.

Yeah, there is a lot of useless drek on Facebook (no, I don’t want to know what European city you’d be) … but not your stuff.

I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson

by Solanus on Nov 10, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I used to post on there much more than I do now

people were getting pissed off, so I cut back the output.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

did you listen to their second album, Chitown

Congratulations is right up your alley, I would think.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 10, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd be surprised if I like it

that band has the half of DFA79 that I don’t like as much. I guess it’s worth a try, but every time I hear one of their songs I go meh

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

its completely different type of music

its pure psych rock, a lot like Tame Impala, actually.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 10, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

since I don't plan on spending much time trying to like a band that I don't like, give me one song to check out that you think I'd like

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

my favorite song is "It's Working"

but the lead single, “Flash Delirium” is just filled with rapidfire left turns. It’s like a fourteen minute prog rock epic on fast forward.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 10, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

this is contingent upon how different it is from the stuff I heard

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

what is contingent?

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 10, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno, I haven't heard the new album I guess, but what I've heard of the band is pretty lame

if the next album sounds a lot different from what I’ve heard, then yeah I might like it.. that’s all.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

wow, that sounds awful

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

wait

is it actually a 14-minute prog rock song, or a 14-minute prog rock song condensed to a tolerable length?

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twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

its 4 minutes long

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 10, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

great

if there’s anything i hate more than prog rock, it’s 14-minute prog rock. i don’t really like MGMT, though

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I'm not gonna check them out unless I get a link or something

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 11, 2010 3:18 AM EST up reply actions  

btw

have you heard the new Oceansize album? pretty good, lots of variety of music genres on there.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

i have not.

i’ll give it a shot

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 10, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

it's nothing too amazing

but you might like it, who knows. it was rated really high for 2010 albums

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Chitown, have you ever heard of band called Mew?

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 10, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

heard of, not heard yet

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

they're worth checking out.

they might be a bit poppy for you, although, I can’t put a finger on your tastes yet.

I’d try “Introducing Palace Players” first.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 10, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

my tastes are very random and subject like anyone else's

I tend to like somewhat experimental stuff that focuses on timbre and texture. also, I’m really hard on lyrics so I tend to like instrumental stuff.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

meant to say subjective

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I would say that

cmon now

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

if you don't like jazz or heavy metal, or experimental music, chances are you aren't going to like what's on my mp3 player

also, itunes sucks.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

you wouldn't like them

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

my music pick is a band called Tame Impala

check ‘em out, they’re an australian psychedlic rock band with a lot of pop sensibilities. every once in a while I enjoy a nice lighthearted pop album (that still rocks of course)

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

got to see Dungen live once

twas great

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I like that song Expectation a lot

now listening

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the Cards still need to work on defense

I’m still perplexed by the defensive ratings on Rasmus and Freese. both those guys looked above average to me. also, Jon Jay looked better than 0

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

The ball seemed to get over Colby's head a few more times this year

which was likely just a problem of positioning for the most part.

by mattyp on Nov 10, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

never trust a defensive metric

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

also, it's got to be at least 3 years old

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet Albert wins a GG

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 10, 2010 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

+1

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

lesson for the youngsters

don’t let your wisdom teeth come in, they will just cause problems further down the line

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

i'm already screwed

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Nov 10, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

my first problem which was years ago, was that one of my wisdom teeth cracked the molar that was ahead of it

now I am having the problem of one of the wisdom teeth cracking. it hurts!

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

my dentist gave me the ok for them to grow in...

said that I had enough room, and that was pretty lucky/rare. I haven’t had any problems thus far.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 10, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

nice

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Mine came in just fine, but...

it was because I had to have four molars removed when I was 12 or so. My mouth didn’t have room for all my teeth, which made them come in a little funny (especially my right front tooth on the top, it was at probably a 30 degree angle). So they yanked out those four, gave me braces, then a retainer (until I stopped wearing it, does anybody wear that damn things as long as they’re supposed to wear them?) and my wisdom teeth had plenty of room.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 10, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Mine are gone

was perhaps the easiest surgery of my life thus far,and the recovery time was really fast.

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Nov 10, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yadi and Albert

It’s official!

What did Adam do to lose his?

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by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

ummm... not make the playoffs?

who knows…

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 10, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

2010 National League Rawlings Gold Glove Award winners:

Bronson Arroyo, Yadier Molina, Albert Pujols, Brandon Phillips, Scott Rolen, Troy Tulowitzki, Michael Bourn, Shane Victorino and Carlos Gonzalez.

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 10, 2010 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

Can't argue with any of these really.

I’d would have liked to see WW repeat, but Arroyo is deserving as well.

Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.

by mtzxc on Nov 10, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

dude gets no respect

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Take my wife... please!

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by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 10, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

wrong dead comedian.

Take my wife, please = Henny Youngman
No Respect = Rodney

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 10, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I know... It was a The Office joke

Probably a bit too specialized now that I look it… Michael got ’em mixed up in the episode “Did I Stutter?”

And now, just b/c this image entertains me…

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by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 10, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

My bad.........

I don’t watch the office, not because I don’t think it’s not good, just because I had missed so much of it I can’t catch up without multiple box sets.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 10, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

btw, how did the canon photo weekend go?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 10, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

good, but I can honestly say I'm lost with that thing.....

plan for right now is, set to auto, take pictures. What a piece of equipment.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 10, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, it's overwhelming at first

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 10, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

this!

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Nov 10, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

that's what netflix is for

plus, the first five seasons are on immediate download

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 10, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting...

…Guy was one-tenth behind (drumroll) Chase “It’s HEADLEY” in 3B UZR. Interesting.

Rolen wasn’t a bad choice (a bad choice would’ve been David Wright), but he wasn’t the best one. This really is based on reputation and WAGing.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 10, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

In UZR/150, you mean.

There was a greater difference in just UZR. At least Zimmerman got the GG last year.

by spants on Nov 10, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I meant that...

I tend to look at those charts too quickly sometimes on FG.com. I’m now self-flagellating to as punishment.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 10, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Then so would Ryan

It’s not as bad as Jeter winning at SS though.

Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.

by mtzxc on Nov 10, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

carlos gonzalez is not a top-3 OF defender in the NL

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

no Rockie ever is UZR hates Rockies OF

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 10, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah...

cause they aren’t good defenders.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 11, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

could be but I doubt that Dexter Fowler and Carlos Gonzalez are bad defenders

UZR is too inconsistent as a person who watched both Gonzalez and Holliday play OF there is no doubt in my mind who the better defender is.

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 11, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Wille Taveras has two below average years of defense in his career

the two years he was a Rockie. If Carlos Gonzalez can play a legit CF in Oakland I am comfortable with his ability to play LF in Colorado

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 11, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Rolen won his 8th.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Nov 10, 2010 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

Official GG's

Molina
Pujols
Phillips
Tulo
Rolen
Carlos Gonzalez
Victorino
Bourn
Arroyo

Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.

by mtzxc on Nov 10, 2010 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

Ryan is not a Gold Glover

despite superior stats. What a suprise… This year’s SS choices are abysmal

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Nov 10, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Tulo is a fine choice

i mean, defensible at least.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 10, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a defense award

Ryan’s defense > Tulo’s defense.
Hence, a poor choice.

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Nov 10, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

While true

the voters see it as a “who is solid on defense and is a big enough name with a decent offensive season to win it?” award.

Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.

by mtzxc on Nov 10, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

There's a distinction though btwn. a bad choice and a wrong one

A bad choice is picking someone who’s demonstrably terrible. Jeter, for example…

A wrong choice is someone who’s a good fielder, but didn’t have as good a season as someone else. Tulo is a wrong choice… Jose Reyes (-5.7 UZR) would be a bad choice.

And ftr… Boog should have won if you go by UZR. Being a bad hitter, prone to fugly errors, and being merely Brenden Ryan put him out of the running in all likelihood.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 10, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I didn't think it was that bad, although boog is clearly way better at defense

they just need to change the definition of the award if they keep snubbing the defensive wizards

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

GG Philosophical Question

Should a player be in a certain number of games before he is considered for the Gold Glove. I respect Tulowitski and freely acknowledge he’s got talent. But he only played in 117 games this year. At what point do we stop and say “sample size is too small”?

by JWO on Nov 10, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Minor correction

He was in 122 games. But argument still stands.

by JWO on Nov 10, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

that's about the number of games Colby was in

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah I know

/useless trivia

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

123

then Boog would have qualified with 124 starts. Seriously, going on the DL with a fractured wrist probably gives Tulo a pass while Boog was starting about 75% of the games until Freese went down.

by ubeddie on Nov 10, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

It's worth noting

Boog had more attempts than any other shortstop in the NL, even though he wasn’t a full-time starter all year.

by mojowo11 on Nov 10, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

i weep for the future

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Alcohol sales are going to sky rocket this off season, methinks.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 10, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Obviously this answer is 28.

See Palmeiro, Rafael in 1999.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 10, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

precisely

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 10, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

the voters see 17 errors and give it to the bitch that cries the loudest

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 10, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

17 errors is a lot

i mean, fielding percentage isn’t the best stat. But it is a stat. And not all of those errors were on players that other shortstops wouldn’t have got too.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Nov 10, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

his UZR was the best though

Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.

by mtzxc on Nov 10, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

boog isn't well known

which is likely a part of the problem.

by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 10, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

he's not that well known but they're aware of him

boog’s problem (in terms of gg) is that he’s not derek jeter

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 10, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Totally irrelevant fact

Tulo had an OPS of .949. As a shortstop. That’s about 100 points better than Hanley Ramirez.
Stop and digest that.

by JWO on Nov 10, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, Tulo's season was ridic

However, who knows if he would have sustained that OPS. It was basically a 3/4 season, right?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 10, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

except he only got better as his wrist healed

his first half was by far his best ever go take a look at his 2009 splits from June on he posted a 1000+ ops for four straight monthes

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 10, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm

Interesting, I didn’t realize that.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 11, 2010 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Tulowitzki isn't a bad choice.

He and Ryan were the best at the position this year.
B-R link

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 10, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

there's 25 runs between boog and jeter

one got a gg, the other did not

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 10, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh...Jeter's not last in MLB

B-R’s MLB fielding for SS (Total Zone as used yesterday in their critique…)

114 – Ian Desmond
115 – Jeter
116 – H-Ram
117 – Angel Sanchez
118 – Starlin Castro

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 10, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd Give it to Boog anyway...

…he has a really nice hair cut…

:=8)

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 10, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

plus he's the most rangey shortstop out there

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

U'd think the shoulder-lick would buy him an extra point or two...

My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 10, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Boog has unatural range that robbery of Adam Kennedy would have sealed it for

me, however, the Fielding Bible did give it to Tulo this year as well so that is one point in his favor

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 10, 2010 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

this means that Votto won MVP

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

in case you missed my fanshot, Boog is 41st all time in TZR in basically 2 seasons worth of games

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:49 PM EST reply actions  

What percentage of American would know that sentence was about baseball?

Over/Under: 15%

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by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

way under

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Nov 10, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Under your under.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 10, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

keep it clean

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Under, definitely

I’d say the percentage of baseball fans that would know it was about baseball is also under 15%.

by ArkansasTravs on Nov 10, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

.034%

under

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 10, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Gawd....

Strauss on the fast lane… says he “sees some internal preference for making a move at short as compared to 2nd”….

not block-quoted because I am paraphrasing… BUT my hate for him won’t even be improved by a unicorn.

FEARMONGER!

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Nov 10, 2010 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

GRRRR
Atticus Finch: Surfs up chatmeister, love the chats. My question is this: Will Mo be weary of looking for any long term solution at 2B with Zach Cox on the horizon? Does the team still project him as a second baseman? Who does your gut tell you will be our starting second baseman next season. Thanks.
Joe Strauss: Cox will not be next year’s second baseman, though he will be seen in major-league camp. Schumaker still enjoys the public support of the manager and front office. There appears more an inclination to make a change at shortstop. However, the situation may change if the right player becomes available via trade. Very fluid.

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Nov 10, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

He doesn't know scat.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, "very fluid" is the most annoying phrase a "reporter" can use.

It’s essentially saying “hell, who the shit knows.”

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I really want to become GM of the Cardinals some day just so I can ban Joe Strauss from everything

Yes, that is the only reason I would want to be a GM

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 10, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

So...

Schumaker’s bosses like him so they won’t change. Probably. But they might if the right player is available. Possibly.

Joe… Joe… Who’s that right player? Any idea?

ten minutes later…

No??? Okay then…

Why do people who are literally incapable of saying anything meaningful paid writers? I don’t get it.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 10, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

because they don't get paid enough

for anyone half-way competent to want to do the job.

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by SleepyCA on Nov 12, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

If this is true

then FUCK.
But it’s Strauss, so who knows.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 10, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

as full of shit as strauss is, it does kind of pass the smell test

schu is still under contract for 2m and not really moveable. if we get a 2B we’ll eat the contract.

boog is valuable, cheap, and under no commitments.

by YesWeOquendo on Nov 10, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

i need more liquor

at least could the Braves pick him up
so he and Bombs can make their show together

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Boog is first year arb eligible

so he won’t be that cheap in 2011. Schu has the distinct possibility of being waived next off season instead of being offered arbitration.

by ubeddie on Nov 10, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure the 2 year deal bought out his remaining arby years.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 10, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Nyet

Skip only has 4 + years of service time. Here is his salary history per Cot’s
- 2 years/$4.7M (2010-11), re-signed by St. Louis 2/8/10
  avoided arbitration, $2.75M-$1.45M), 10:$2M, 11:$2.7M
- 1 year/$0.43M (2009), re-signed by St. Louis 2/28/09
- 1 year/$0.396M (2008), re-signed by St. Louis 3/4/08
- 1 year/$0.382M (2007), re-signed by St. Louis 2/07
- 1 year/$0.329M (2006), re-signed by St. Louis 2/06
-1 year (2005), contract purchased by St. Louis 6/05

by ubeddie on Nov 10, 2010 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

fair nuff....

I thought last year was his second arb year, not first.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 10, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

There's no way Rolen is better than Zimmerman...

and there’s no reason to give it to Pujols, who’s gimpier than ever. Oh well, I was 5 for 9.

Screw you, you freakin stats nerd

by guayzimi on Nov 10, 2010 3:59 PM EST reply actions  

Adrian Gonzalez was robbed

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Nov 10, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

boohoo

everyone gets robbed by the GG. its not a real award. it’s like a grammy.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Nov 10, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yadi didn't get robbed....

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Nov 10, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

It was almost Jeterian.

Gonzalez = 6 (1)
Pujols = -2 (77)

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 10, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

not even close

Josh Wilson = 12
Derek Jeter = – 10

That is 22 runs worse. Pujols is only 8 runs worse. But it’s still a little bit of robbing going on.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Nov 10, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

It could be a real award...

if they stop taking into account offense. What they should do is simply award negative votes based on ops – the higher the ops, the more negative votes the player is awarded. This will solve the problem of bias toward good hitters.

Screw you, you freakin stats nerd

by guayzimi on Nov 10, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

but then you have Pujol's 2007

When his Rtot was 25 (next closes was Helton’s 13) and his OPS .997

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Nov 10, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

VEB could be put in charge...

of granting dispensations to certain players.

Screw you, you freakin stats nerd

by guayzimi on Nov 10, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

that bias will never be eliminated

for the simple reason that they don’t have to justify their votes
the only way awards based on performance will be better is if they assigned weight to every relevant stat, put the data in a spreadsheet and let it spit out the best guys
and while we’re at it, bring on the robot umps

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 10, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

And awards would be calculated and compiled within 30 minutes of the final regular season game and we’d have nothing to talk about in November. Though I wanted Boog to win just because I think he’s a good guy who needed the morale boost (and, of course, deserved it).

But hey, something has to make the offseason interesting, since we can’t spend much on free agents this year. Maybe Quaker State will announce a TLR & Miles Grits campaign. That’d be fanshot worthy.

by JStymie on Nov 10, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

It's kinda like a Grammy

Except some people actually still care about the Gold Glove award.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 10, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

almost every national broadcast lists Gold Glove winners when they put up their lineups.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

how's everyone's work day going?

I’m participating in the toxic cocktail of making revenue adjustments, entering invoices into our local system and our international system, and posting check and wire payments. woohoo!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

I just upgraded a circuit from 5M to 9M

ROCK AND ROLL WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

awh yeah

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

damn

I was hoping it was after 4pm by now

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

website sprint kickoff

and user experience hours estimates for said sprint. booooyaw, agile environment! huzzah, iterative development!

by mikey_mac on Nov 10, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I've always like the word agile

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

be sure to obey!

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks for clearing that up lol

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

just in case "they" are watching

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

they're always watching

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I have attended one class

Got lunch with buddies, and am currently sitting in my room in my boxers

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 10, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

how dare you steal my day from me!`

aside from a nice nap after the lunch you stole my day.

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Nov 10, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I am working on an annual report

about anadromous fish and a large water project… my eyes are bleeding…

Gritty Proven Veteran

by RosevilleRedbird on Nov 10, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

what watershed are we talking?

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Nov 10, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

i get paid to be here till 4:30

i’ll be here till 10
nuff said, regadless of the snoozefest i’m working on right now, this day is already hell

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 10, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

My pseudo-work day is going pretty normal

Since I’m a stay-at-home parent right now, I’m not sure if I should start my “work day” when my two year old wakes up or when I start making breakfast for my wife so she can get to work on time. So, as it is about 4:10 I’ve either been working for 10 to 10and a half hours already. Yay!
Caveat: my main client takes a nap everyday for about an hour and a half, so I can good off at will for that time, unless I’m doing laundry or dishes.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 10, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

good off = goof off

My typing skills have deteriorated, don’t tell my boss.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 10, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

what?

lol

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Juss playin'!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 10, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't hear anything about you goofin off

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

By goof off I mean check websites without having to worry about anything

And by “main client” I mean my very energetic almost-two-year-old.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 10, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I was going for the I ain't rattin you out approach

what are you talking about? I am not familiar

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 11, 2010 3:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Blah, sorry

I just got confused. Let’s pretend this never happened, and I’m still clever and awesome.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 11, 2010 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I followed you.

You were making stay-at-home-dad jokes.

by spants on Nov 11, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah!

But I better figure out when it’s time to quite so I don’t become type-cast.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 11, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Ahem

“quite” should be “quit”.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 11, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I've met both my classes,

finished grading a test, registered 5 of my students for spring, and entered overrides for half a dozen others.

Actually, now that I think about it, a fairly productive day. If I can just keep up the momentum tomorrow!

by ArkansasTravs on Nov 10, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

a) momentum is overrated

b) … i have no b
you teach english or writing, right?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 10, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope

about as far from that as you can get, mechanical engineering with an occasional nuclear course thrown in.

by ArkansasTravs on Nov 11, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

ohh the easy stuff

you must get a lot of student athletes in your courses.

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 11, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha

actually, we’ve had quite a few athletes over the years. And almost all of them have been good students. Most have been in football but quite a few baseball players too. We’ve had just about every sport represented except basketball and cross-country.

by ArkansasTravs on Nov 11, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Can someone write a firefox add on

that gives me a pop up warning whenever I accidentally click on Jeff Gordon’s “columns.” Those sneak P-D Headline writers got me again.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 4:20 PM EST reply actions  

GET TO WORK, PEOPLE.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I have only one thing to say about the NL GG at SS

And that is this. I feel that it conveys my opinion of the results on several levels.

by mojowo11 on Nov 10, 2010 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

outside of us, no one knows who boog is.

all that would have happened is a lot of ‘who???’

by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 10, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

they should just put him on webgems like every other game, eventually people will figure it out

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

typical boog luck:

one time he made a stupid, stupid good play, it was a Friday. FESPN does not-top-ten on Fridays.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with your statement.

And you said it so well, from 6 feet out in the grass…

Gritty Proven Veteran

by RosevilleRedbird on Nov 10, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

The baserunner

The thing that really sells that whole play is the fact that it was Tulowitzki running down the line.

I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson

by Solanus on Nov 10, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't believe how fast he went from catch to release

Especially given that he was sliding. Such an athletic play.

by mojowo11 on Nov 10, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

being Brendan Ryan

must be depressing. it’s Dangerfieldian levels of depressing.

well, at least we believe in him.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

we should have a confidence poll for him.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

gdm levels of depressing?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 10, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

uh, yes

actually.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

first floor apartment, Brendan

look into it.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

If he ever starts (and finishes) 150 games

-especially if the Cardinals are in first for most of the season - I think he’ll have a shot.

Not justifying it, but it’s pretty unlikely a coach/manager/whomever would ever vote for a guy that is barely even a full time starter.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

DAMN YOU STRIKE-THROUGH

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

also

SIGN NICK PUNTO + ADAM EVERETT!!!

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Nov 10, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

fuck yeah

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Savings on bat costs!

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Nov 10, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

who's the third? jay/craig?

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

well

pitcher
boog
everett
Punto

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Nov 10, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

oh yeah, the 8th batter

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking of adding Yadi

but decided against it, citing last year as a fluke.

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Nov 10, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, hopefully he will be more yadi-like next season

put some weight back on

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Further proof these things are a joke and why we shouldn't care about them.

Year | Everett’s UZR/150 | Winner’s UZR/150

2003 | 9.3 | 6.1
2004 | 18.9 | 14.8
2005 | 14.3 | 6.5
2006 | 25.8 | 10.5
2007 | 19.9 | 2.4 (mind you the previous year’s winner, Omar V, had a 23.2 this season!)
2008 | 11.9 | -4.2 (Michael Young won a Gold Glove?)
2009 | 8.8 | 8.0 (JETER!!!)
2010 | 4.4 | -5.4 (jeter….)

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 10, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

so it's Tony La Russa's fault, I see....

it’s crazy that Elvis didn’t have a shot either

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Fielding bible

not perfect…but about as good as there is right now.

1B- Pujols led for NL
2B- Utley should have got, Phillips was 2nd and a d-bag
3B- Zimmerman deserved it, Rolen close
SS- Tulo highest, ryan second (two 1st place votes)
OF- They go by LF,CF,RF and Bourn led in CF, victorino and cargo barely made the list…with many players beating them out including Young, Pagan, Torres, Tabata, Holiday, bruce, and heyward.
C- Yadi was the first ever to get all 1st place votes in the feilding bible
P- Arroyo led the NL with westbrook, carpenter, and waino all in the top 5

Overall mostly defensable besides victorino and cargo, with zimmerman and utley getting screwed. How is utley still underated?

http://www.billjamesonline.net/fieldingbible/complete-votetally.asp

by I miss Jack Buck on Nov 10, 2010 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

who's utley

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

never heard of the guy.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 10, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

i smell something

i think it’s hair gel

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

though... it was bizarre how he turned into Dan Uggla for a couple of innings

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Must not be all that great then

I guess if the Phillies wanna dump his contract I wouldn’t mind if the Cards picked him up. Say, Stavinoha and Ottavino for Utley?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 10, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I still want Skip Schumaker off my team

Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)

by mattyfrommo on Nov 10, 2010 5:31 PM EST reply actions  

two more years

sigh

Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)

by mattyfrommo on Nov 10, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

and...

if Edmonds can sign with the Yankees, and somehow replaces their CF after a freak injury, and goes on to win a GG, will it solidify his place in the HOF?

Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)

by mattyfrommo on Nov 10, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you hit enter about 15 times?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 10, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

when it does that,

preview, then post.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 10, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

i wonder what codyg's opinion of this is

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

thank you

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Re-did the numbers sort from yesterday

This time I used the Rdrs shown on BR, rather than the Rtot

This time, rating/games if less than typical for starter, and I’ve included all teams for traded players and all OF numbers for those positions.

American League
P Buehrle +8, Romero +10, Cahill +9
C Mauer +3, J.Molina +6/56, Pierzynski +6
1B Teixiera -1, Barton +20, Morneau +9/77
2B Cano +7, Hudson +17, Rodriguez +17/92
3B Longoria +13, Lopez +15, Kouzmanoff +13
SS Jeter -13, Ramirez +16, Gonzalez +16
LF Crawford +14, Gardner +16, Crisp +9/73 (in CF, but hardly any decent LF’ers)
CF Guttierrez +14, Jackson +21, Bourjos +15/51 (not a typo, 10 A in 51 G)
RF Suzuki +12, Choo +11, Cruz +11/101

Overall: P, 3B, and 1-2 OF spots are completely valid; C, 2B, and 1-2 OF spots are questionable; and they completely boned both 1B and SS (really? Jeter?)

National League
P Arroyo +6, Garland +6, Hudson +6
C Molina +12, Olivo +14, Torrealba +7/92
1B Pujols +0, Davis +13, Huff +6/100
2B Phillips +0, Utley +14, Eckstein +3 (Little Buddy?)
3B Rolen +2, Headley +21, Zimmerman +20
SS Tulowitzki +16, Ryan +27, Escobar +19
LF Gonzalez -2, Parra +20/113, Torres +12
CF Bourn +16, Byrd +11, Gwynn +11/105
RF Victorino +11 (in CF), Bruce +17, Stanton +17/98

Overall: P, C, and one OF spot are completely valid; SS (3rd at pos, but way behind ML Rdrs leader, BOOG!) and one OF spot are questionable; and 1B, 2B, 3B, and last OF spot are way off line from stats.

Again, this is just a review of essentially one stat on the Baseball-Reference page, and I’m just sorting the tables and such. So forgive me my sacrilege against The Mang.

Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.

by Rejuvenile on Nov 10, 2010 5:33 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

he's already in the Hall of Fame though

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

no one made an inane comment about his engagement

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

he's ready to go

just don’t hit any more grand slams, Brad

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

obviously they sap his lifeforce

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

how do you go from

out for the rest of the year, can’t even pitch in late september/early october
to best shape of his fuckin life a month later?
9 starts! nine. i hope his fiance enjoys the ring we bought her

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Nov 10, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

i know i'm despondent and all but it has to be said

Yadier Molina is badass.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 5:58 PM EST reply actions  

Wise words

from Doc Halladay.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 10, 2010 7:05 PM EST reply actions  

heh
One last word of advice: For young people who have torn or ruptured rotator cuffs, I’m really sorry.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 10, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish Darren Oliver had approached me when I was four

And told me to start throwing left-handed.

“Seriously, you won’t even have to be that good to have a 15+ year career.”

by mojowo11 on Nov 10, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

That Bus Campbell is mentioned in The Onion is so cool

that old man was like thepainguy, Crash Davis and Mr. Miyagi all rolled into one

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 10, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

no, seriously, can we have a confidence poll for Brendan Ryan?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

our confidence in him

it’s not like anyone has to guess at his confidence level

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

he has my confidence

go forth and rock, boog

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 11, 2010 3:21 AM EST up reply actions  

who was recing GG picks

i nailed the whole outfield

only ones i missed were halladay, utley and wright

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 7:35 PM EST reply actions  

Simba for the Hall

How many think he will get in? should get in?

I wasn’t a simmons advocate early-on but I’ve been won over — I think he should go in.

Just win

by The Duke on Nov 10, 2010 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

lolno

Mufasa’s career adjusted MAR (Majesty Above Replacement) and MBWR (Mane To Body Weigh Ratio) are both way higher than Simba’s and he’s still not in. Sure, Simba leads him in MAP (Movies As Protagonist), but that’s a counting stat, so you can’t just look at that and make snap judgments about ability without considering the rate stats.

by mojowo11 on Nov 10, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Yeah, I have to agree

Especially about the counting stats. I mean, by that logic both Fox and Hound have a better HOF case. Aladdin is a first ballot HOFer, dude had two sequels!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 10, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Counting stats

HOW TED SIMMONS RATES WITH HALL OF FAME CATCHERS

RUNS

Carlton Fisk 1,276
Yogi Berra 1,175
Buck Ewing 1,118
Johnny Bench 1,091
Ted Simmons 1,074
Mickey Cochrane 1,041
Bill Dickey 930
Gabby Hartnett 867
Rick Ferrell 687
Roger Bresnahan 684
Roy Campanella 627
Ernie Lombardi 601
Ray Schalk 579

HITS

Ted Simmons 2,472
Carlton Fisk 2,356
Yogi Berra 2,150
Johnny Bench 2,048
Bill Dickey 1,969
Gabby Hartnett 1,912
Ernie Lombardi 1,792
Rick Ferrell 1,692
Buck Ewing 1,663
Mickey Cochrane 1,652
Ray Schalk 1,345
Roger Bresnahan 1,251
Roy Campanella 1,161

DOUBLES

Ted Simmons 483
Carlton Fisk 421
Gabby Hartnett 396
Johnny Bench 381
Bill Dickey 343
Mickey Cochrane 333
Rick Ferrell 324
Yogi Berra 321
Ernie Lombardi 277
Buck Ewing 237
Roger Bresnahan 222
Ray Schalk 199
Roy Companella 178

HOME RUNS

Johnny Bench 389
Carlton Fisk 376
Yogi Berra 358
Ted Simmons 248
Roy Campanella 242
Gabby Hartnett 236
Bill Dickey 202
Ernie Lombardi 190
Mickey Cochrane 119
Buck Ewing 66
Rick Ferrell 28
Roger Bresnahan 26
Ray Schalk 12

RBI

Yogi Berra 1,430
Ted Simmons 1,389
Carlton Fisk 1,386
Johnny Bench 1,376
Bill Dickey 1,209
Gabby Hartnett 1,179
Ernie Lombardi 990
Buck Ewing 883
Roy Campanella 856
Mickey Cochrane 832
Rick Ferrell 734
Ray Schalk 596
Roger Bresnahan 531

BATTING AVERAGE

Mickey Cochrane .320
Bill Dickey .313
Ernie Lombardi .306
Buck Ewing .303
Gabby Hartnett .297
Ted Simmons .285
Yogi Berra .285
Rick Ferrell .281
Roger Bresnahan .279
Roy Campanella .276
Carlton Fisk .269
Johnny Bench .267
Ray Schalk .253

GAMES CAUGHT

Carlton Fisk 2,226
Rick Ferrell 1,806
Gabby Hartnett 1,793
Ted Simmons 1,771
Johnny Bench 1,742
Ray Schalk 1,727
Bill Dickey 1,708
Yogi Berra 1,699
Ernie Lombardi 1,544
Mickey Cochrane 1,451
Roy Campanella 1,183
Roger Bresnahan 974
Buck Ewing 636

Just win

by The Duke on Nov 10, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

By actual counting stats, it's actually kind of surprising that he isn't in the HOF

But by Disney movie stats I totally understand.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 10, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

nah

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 11, 2010 3:21 AM EST up reply actions  

what you are too good for Herpes?

Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908

by TomCat009 on Nov 11, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

classifications are kind of arbitrary

i guess kind a free/hard bop hybrid of sorts

are you looking for jazz?

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by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I have most of the standard stuff – Thelonious and Davis, etc., but I’m looking for something more downbeat and depressing, like the Radiohead song, and most of the stuff I have is upbeat.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 10, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't really know how avant garde you're looking to go,

so i don’t know how well your tastes are going to sync up with mine, but here’s a few that i consider essential that might be up your alley. but if you’re going into this looking for something that sounds like radiohead, you’re probably going to be disappointed

coltrane – a love supreme
coltrane – om
pharoah sanders – the creator has a master plan
albert ayler – spiritual unity
charles mingus – the black saint and the sinner lady
ornette coleman – the shape of jazz to come
sun ra – lanquidity

lanquidity or om is probably what i would recommend you pick up first. and neither of those coltrane albums are my favorites, but they’re certainly more accessible to someone just getting into jazz than interstellar space or ascension. feel free to check either of those out, though, if you like this kind of stuff

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by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

greatest artist to ever live?

probably. he covered so many styles and he covered them all excellently

amazes me that someone can put out something like blue train and then later something like interstellar space and both be amazing

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by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Coltrane's life story is nothing less than uplifting

he pretty much lived it all

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 11, 2010 3:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Lanquidity is a really great album

I think mainly Mingus, Coltrane, and Charlie Parker are what sold me on jazz at first. Sun Ra as well, but he’s even more of an acquired taste.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 11, 2010 3:22 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm so depressed, i probably shouldn't drink

is there anything on the hot stove that’s not filled with Dread?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 8:45 PM EST reply actions  

Does Westy fill you with dread?

Because that’s the only good news right now.

by spants on Nov 10, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

but he could sign with someone else

that’s dreadful
unless i’m not caught up on the news

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

alcohol is probably your only option.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Nov 10, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

well

fuck

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Mouth fiest?

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 10, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

fiesta!!!!

sonovabitch

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Nov 10, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, the Rox seem interested in ol' westie

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 11, 2010 3:23 AM EST up reply actions  

depression:

I have the espn scorecenter app on my phone. I have the cardinals set up as a favorite team, so every time I check any score on my favorites I see an empty Cardinals score staring back at me. 3/31/2011. Cards v. Padres. 4:15. Seems so far away…

by mattyp on Nov 11, 2010 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

mysterui's favorite jpeg of the day

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 10, 2010 9:33 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

COME ON THIS IS COMEDIC GOLD

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 11, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

this is my not impressed face

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by prophetjohn on Nov 11, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

where's Motte

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 11, 2010 1:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I love schnauzers

VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009

by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 12, 2010 3:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Holy balls, this is glorious

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 11, 2010 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

comcast sport net bay area is showing the Glen Burke story tonight ......just sayin

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"

Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."

by riftraftredbird on Nov 10, 2010 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

I come back from practice and only 27 new comments?

Late night VEB you’ve failed me again

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 11, 2010 1:01 AM EST reply actions  

lboros sent out an email

Told us not to post so you’d be bored when you got back.

by mojowo11 on Nov 11, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

that'll learn 'em

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 11, 2010 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I like the number 27, that is all.

'Hold my stones!'
"Ernie Hayes is up there playing with his organ again." - Mike Shannon

by Heisenberg on Nov 11, 2010 2:17 AM EST up reply actions  

cannot bring myself to reply to latest fanpost

going to go to bed and hope i fall out during the night

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 11, 2010 1:56 AM EST reply actions  

strauss said in his chat (yeah, yeah)

that there may be momentum for a deal for stephen drew going down before the winter meetings.

he made $3.4MM last year. his final 2 arb years may be able to be bought out for around $12-14MM at which point he walks as a free agent and we get picks. i like the idea, i think

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by prophetjohn on Nov 11, 2010 2:34 AM EST reply actions  

I think the rumor he came up with was Boog, Jay, and a bullpen arm for Drew

Which I would do in a second

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 11, 2010 2:38 AM EST up reply actions  

a chathead proposed that

and strauss said the cards would want another player in return. i would imagine he mines a minor league non-prospect type. but yeah, i’d do that deal

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by prophetjohn on Nov 11, 2010 2:41 AM EST up reply actions  

one way or another

i think selling high on jay is the best way to go

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by prophetjohn on Nov 11, 2010 2:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Tangent:

Would you put Craig in left and Holliday in right?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Nov 11, 2010 2:43 AM EST up reply actions  

trading jay is addition by subtraction...

since it unleashes craig…

Screw you, you freakin stats nerd

by guayzimi on Nov 12, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

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