Gloves, Gold and Otherwise
Yesterday, the American League Gold Gloves were announced. Oh, the winner of the Derek Jeter Glove was announced as well, and Derek Jeter won.
Of course, all the AL Gold Gloves taught us this year is just how stupid the award is. Again. 'Cause, you know, we didn't get the message the hundred or so times we've had it drilled into our skulls before. Most years the award for best defensive whatever just goes to the best offensive whatever, but even that wasn't good enough this time around. Apparently this year the voters all just went down the ballot until they recognised a dude who plays for the Yankees and they've heard of. Well, except Alex Rodriguez, of course, because that guy sucks.
Oh, well. No point in letting the stupidity of a group of voters ruin our days, right? You're damned right I'm right!
Anyway, the National League GG awards will be announced today, and the season is far enough in the rear view mirror now I feel fairly comfortable doing a bit of retrospecticising. We all know the Cardinal offense was a little, um, iffy in 2010. On the other hand, relatively little has really been said (or written), about whatever value the Cards derived from the defense. We all know Skip Schumaker was terrible, because writers like me won't stop quoting his UZR numbers, but just how did the Cardinals perform with the glove overall?
Well, to start off, let me say this: Albert Pujols and Brendan Ryan were both still pretty awesome on defense this year. Albert wasn't quite as brilliant as he had been the past few seasons, but he was still better than average, which in combination with the rest of the stuff he does is just, well, super. Brendan was outstanding, especially by +/-, which absolutely loves him. Let's put it this way: plus/minus wants to take Brendan behind the middle school and get him pregnant. Understand?
On the downside, Colby had a bad season, Skip was awful, and while David Freese was pretty much okay, his replacements were not. Here's some numbers:
| Player | Runs Saved UZR | Runs Saved +/- |
| Albert Pujols | 1.5 | 4 |
| Brendan Ryan | 11.5 | 24 |
| Matt Holliday | 8.2 | 8 |
| David Freese | -0.6 | -4 |
| Colby Rasmus | -6.5 | -4 |
| Ryan Ludwick | 1.2 | 7 |
| Skip Schumaker | -15.4 | -9 |
| Felipe Lopez | -2.1 | -2 |
| Jon Jay | -4.9 | 0 |
Note: the numbers used in each case are for the player's primary position. In Lopez's case I used third base; Jon Jay and Ludwick both go in as right fielders.
I could do some more, but I think that's probably enough. I mean, do you honestly want to know what sort of defensive value Pedro Feliz brought to the table? (Spoiler alert: no, you do not. I actually did look it up, and it ain't pretty.)
I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, but I sort of am all the same. Why? Because the defense on this team essentially looks like the offense. You have three really, really good players, one or two that are kind of meh, and then a bunch who are just godawful. In the case of the defense it's Albert, Holliday, and Brendan, whereas on offense the good players are Albert, Holliday, and Rasmus.
Speaking or Rasmus, both systems hate his defense in 2010, and I'm fairly willing to take that at almost face value. Colby did not have a good season with the glove this past year. I'm probably wishcasting psychology here, but it seemed to me he had a bit of a crisis of confidence. I could just be buying into some half-assed narrative, though, too. Still, watching the orange and white one night in and night out he looks more like the outstanding defender he was in 2009 than the below-average guy he was in 2010 to me. The truth is probably somewhere in between, but I personally am optimistic Colby is a much, much better fielder than he looked to be this year.
Skip really is bad. I know it seems like I'm always picking on the guy, but I swear it isn't my intent. Still, it's tough to ignore the fact he cost the team somewhere in the neighbourhood of one to one and a half wins just with the glove. And unlike Colby, who we have seen outstanding defense from and has the talent to do it again, I think this may be the absolute best we could reasonably hope for from Skip.
I should have put him in the table, but I didn't, and now I don't feel like going back and changing it, but Tyler Greene was a little less than a run below average by UZR and a run above average by +/-. For some reason there seems to be some angst about Tyler's defense, but I've been fairly happy with his work in the field, to be honest. (He was also a run better than average at second base by +/-, and half a run below by UZR. Just to throw another log on the "Tyler should be playing more" fire.)
The only other players of note who got enough playing time to be worth worrying about were Randy Winn and Aaron Miles, in my opinion, and neither one were very good. Miles was right around neutral, Winn was worse.
Now, please don't think I'm trying to make any statements about these players' abilities going forward based on this very limited sampling. Albert and Holliday are really the only players we have large enough samples of to judge their true talent level, and both are plus fielders. Still, just looking at the players, I think these numbers mostly jibe up pretty well with what we saw in 2010. Colby struggled to throw the ball and looked like he was thinking himself into knots out there. Brendan was so good you almost (almost, I said!), forgot about how lousy he was at the plate.
But what we can see here is that the 2010 Cardinals helped themselves, a little, overall. By either UZR or +/- the Cardinals were a little better than average, but they did it in much the same way the offense got to the middle of the pack: a couple players put up great performances that mostly carried along the rest of the squad. So while we're talking about a marked lack of depth in the offense and being top heavy, the defense is really cruising along in pretty much the same condition. Still, it could have been worse, I suppose.
So back to the awards which prompted me to put together a graph of defensive metrics in the first place: the Gold Gloves. I expect Molina to win one, and that's it. If they did the outfield in a sensible way, Holliday would have a pretty good chance in left, but that's not the way they do it. Pujols won't win one because, well, just because. He didn't win the last couple season, when he was flat-out amazing; I can't imagine he'll win one this year when he was a tick below his own ridiculous standards on both sides of the ball. Brendan won't win one because he doesn't hit much and plays in St. Louis. Just the way it is. And yes, it does suck.
Then again, maybe all the voters will remember they heard a lot about this Rasmus kid during the season, but they don't quite recall why, but hey, I know his name! So maybe he wins. Then other teams' fans can bitch for once while we try to justify our player winning an award he didn't deserve. That sounds kind of nice, actually.
The Baron's Playlist for the 10th of November, 2010
"Congratulations" - MGMT
"Be My Baby" - the Ronettes
"Babies" - Pulp
"Mother" - John Lennon
"Parents" - Descendents
"A Better Son/Daughter" - Rilo Kiley
"Suddenly Everything Has Changed" - the Flaming Lips
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Nope.
Can’t stand children, myself.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Nov 10, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
high five for this one
/is high five frowned upon nowadays?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
it's a bit childish.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Nov 10, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Possibly ... but a good bro fist is still fashionable.

by QuadCitiesCardsFan on Nov 10, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Nothin' beats a solid fisting.
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
That's what she said...
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
"A Better Son/Daughter" by Rilo Kiley is a wonderful song!
old too. nice playlist.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Execution of All Things
was the pinnacle of Jenny Lewis’s career. Everything since then has been a little worse than the thing before it.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Nov 10, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know, I have really liked all of Rilo's albums...
I haven’t heard enough of her solo stuff to have too much of an opinion.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
They're good, yes.
But.
Execution was perfect.
More Adventurous was a little worse than Execution.
Blacklight was a little worse than Adventurous.
Her first solo record was a little worse than Rilo Kiley.
Her second solo record was a little worse than the first.
And now this Jenny and Johnny thing is a little worse than all that other stuff.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Nov 10, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Respectable opinion. I totally understand what you're getting at.
I’m not sure if I totally agree, but that is inconsequential.
It’s nice that someone besides me knows more than a few songs of Rilo (and it’s alum).
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Well...
Jenny and Johnny maybe a little worse than all that other stuff, but it is still better than all of the other stuff I hear on every radio station not 88.1…
"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.
Considered it.
However, I already had a song titled Mother, and I like the Lennon one better. Also considered Mammy, but thought it might be in bad taste, and Chocolate Genius’s My Mom, but didn’t feel like crying.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Nov 10, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
ever heard of rings?
they have a song called “mom dance” that i dig
by YesWeOquendo on Nov 10, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
there's a lennon triute album for amnesty which is a fearful confection of really great and really awful covers.
christina aguilera singing “mother” is surprisingly non-awful. averil lavigne singing “imagine” should be grounds for execution of her and whoever let her sing that song. regina spektor sings “real love” and is amazing. there’s a great “watching the wheels” cover and a decent postal service cover of “god bless our love.”
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
Regina Spektor is always amazing
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
there are better covers out there, though
not strictly beatles, but lennon nonetheless. Fiona Apple does a great cover of across the universe, and pearl jam does a respectable you’ve got to hide your love away. No one, can ever, ever touch lennon’s “Mother,” though.
speaking of covers
Levi’s commissioned something called the pioneer sessions, which contain some really badass covers. Check out passion pit’s “tonight, tonight” or the dirty projector’s “I dreamed I saw St. Augustine” or the Kills “Pale Blue Eyes.”
Mother is such a deeply personal song to Lennon that yeah, I don't think any cover can do it justice
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
come to think of it
I don’t even care if it was halfway respectable, someone should punch and divorce Aguilera for covering it….oh, somebody already did?
This was probably an inappropriate response
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I like Tyler Greene.
Hope he makes the team as either a utility guy or the starting 2Bman. He can’t be worse than Skip and he has more power.
by spants on Nov 10, 2010 1:33 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Me too
Greene needs to be on the roster coming out of ST.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
either he is or he's gone
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twatter
One option remaining
Greene was added to the 40 man roster on 11/20/2008. First option burned in 2009, second option burned last year. He can still enjoy the Memphis shuttle. Stavinoha on the other hand ran out of options last season. Hawksworth has to stay with the big club too.
hmm,
i thought i had read otherwise
where does stav stand on this? ‘10 was his last option year wasn’t it?
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twatter
i think ubeddie is right
but i’ve seen articles that have said differently
also Stav is done with options
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 10, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
And we won't be spending $$$ on O Hudson
Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Jay/Craig 9, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, M Carpenter 5, Molina 2, T Greene 4, Ryan 6, pitcher
the shadow of albert's extension is so threatening
i hope there’s some resolution soon. it’s going to be difficult to move forward when nobody knows what kind of resources are available
by YesWeOquendo on Nov 10, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Like the Bulldog Hoverboard.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I really wouldn't mind this
a keystone combo of Ryan and Greene would make for some great defense, I believe.
Of course… who then bats lead-off? Jay maybe, if he’s playing RF that day? Do they give it to Brendan full time, or perhaps only when Craig is in RF? I mean, I know it will be a different lineup everyday because Tony is the manager, but… really – we need someone to get on base fairly consistently in the 1 and 2 spots.
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
boog cannot bat leadoff
please no more. we need someone with .350+ OBP up there, which is the best reason to get someone like hudson. or maybe pull a trade for the helmet masher
Check the sig
Of course… who then bats lead-off?
Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Jay/Craig 9, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, M Carpenter 5, Molina 2, T Greene 4, Ryan 6, pitcher
That team would make Jeff Gordon have a stroke.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
That lineup makes me reach for the towel.
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
really? we pretty much saw what that lineup could do last year
but now, swap in someone who’s never played above AA as our #5 hitter? really?
majority of 3B starts last year
were by the Lopez/Feliz combo with Freese only getting 64 starts before breaking down and being carted away by the equine ambulance. Skip had 73% of the starts at 2B with Miles and Lopez covering 22%. His lineup is missing Ludwick’s bat from last year.
sorry, i should've been clearer
I basically equated Freese/Lopez/Feliz with Carpenter, Skip/Miles/Lopez/Greene with Greene, and Ludwick/Jay/Winn/Craig with Jay/Craig… I don’t see the changes being marked improvements.
Freese v Lopez/Feliz
Freese in 270 PA’s
.296/.361/.404/.765
Lopez/Feliz in 372 PA’s (while playing 3B for Lopez)
.240/.295/.307/.602
M Carpenter
should get the opportunity to start at 3b for Memphis this year. I think the FO still sold/hoping on Freese being healthy.
Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!
Where have you been?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 10, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
let me guess, you stabbed someone
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
i think that's a shiv
the verb is shank
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ol' Stabby McStaberson strikes again
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 10, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
silly of me
i should have known you were hardcore
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
It was smuggled in via a pie.
By a man wearing cheap shoes…
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
in bed
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 10, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
you not a pie man er girl ?
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 10, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
just a few .... im really tired , my bad
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 10, 2010 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
i don't mind
im just confused out of my mind
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 11, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
Is that a Three Musketeers reference?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Technically it would be a "Twenty Years After" reference.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
btw, this is on the test
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Greinke and Lincecum win Cy's one year,
and then we go back to the stone age the next.
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
To be fair
The managers vote on the GG, while the BBWAA votes on those other awards. I wouldn’t say we are back in the stone age until Sabathia wins this year’s AL Cy Young Award.
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
Sabathia over Hernandez is at least defensible.
Sabathia is one of the top 3 pitchers if not the top. Jeter is among the worst shortstops in the league.
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
you mean..
Liriano/Lee/Price…right?….right?!
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Nov 10, 2010 5:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
lee > felix > verlander
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twatter
by what metric?
not WAR, FIP, xFIP, tERA, K/BB or ERA
he’s not even a top-5 pitcher in any of those categories
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twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
rWAR
RA adjusted for defense, ballpark and quality of opposition.
It still amazes me that saber minded people compare CC’s and Felix’s unadjusted stats considering the defense and ballparks that each guy pitches under.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 10, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
then, xFIP
felix – 3.26 (3rd AL, 7th MLB)
cc – 3.78 (10th AL, 25th MLB)
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twatter
and rWAR still has felix over cc
by a non-negligible amount
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twatter
by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you are easily amazed
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 11, 2010 3:16 AM EST up reply actions
top-5 AL, of course
throw in NL pitchers and i gotta start scrolling down to find his name
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twatter
Colby actually had a very average season
with an incredibly bad four week-ish stretch in May that killed his overall numbers.
I had hoped he’d have a defensive surge (like the soda) to bring his numbers back to average, but he just plaid super average defense the rest of the year.
YOU’RE ON NOTICE, COLBY RASMUS.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Is anyone else having a problem with Z-ing to new comments?
For instance, a post will have 5 new comments. It will let me Z to none, or maybe one or two. Then it stops working. It’s done this on several posts, including this one which has very few comments. I’m set to auto-refresh and I’ve never had this problem before.
Working fine for me this morning.
I’ve had issues in the past, though.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Nov 10, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Huh?
I thought you were all gung-ho on Chrome?
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Nov 10, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
When I switched to Ubuntu I started using Firefox again.
Now I’m pretty much only using Windows 7 and have stayed with Firefox.
have you tried IE 9 at all?
I’m weirdly curious about it, but the computers in the school lab are all IE 8.
They decided not to implement a spell-checker again
You know, that really, really important feature that has been in Firefox since 2006 and in Chrome since its release. Yeah, they couldn’t be bothered with that for IE9.
i for one am shocked SHOCKED
that they finally decided to support html 5 and more css3
it’s like microsoft finally hired someone competent by mistake
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
who didn't put in spell check.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
cause he can spell
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Are you running Beta?
it’s been a bit wonky for me the last few days. Z’ing is working fine though.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
did skip really have a worse 2nd year defensively?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
No, about the same.
It felt worse, though, if only because we saw improvement the first season and watched him stall out this year.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Nov 10, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Since I'm too lazy to do it
does anyone have the similar defensive ratings for the AL gold glovers? Just how bad was Jeter this past year?
He was
4.7 runs below average according to UZR, and — wait for it — 13 runs below average by plus/minus.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Nov 10, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
That's about what I would have thought.
enough below average to make it hard to argue that the defensive metrics undervalued him for some reason. Maybe not Skip Schumacher, but definitely NOT Matt Holliday, even. Managers and coaches vote for GG, corrrect? One would think they would have a better idea of who is a good fielder and who isn’t. Do they also vote for Silver Slugger? If not, maybe they should, and make the ballots simultaneous so it is clear to them that one is an offensive award, the other defensive.
by ArkansasTravs on Nov 10, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Rejuvenile
had a good post on it yesterday.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
All the Yankee winners were below average...
all the non-Yankee winners above average.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
Nice to see Descendents on your playlist...
…even tho it’s misspelled. (Common mistake.) Didn’t know anyone else here listened to the punk-a rock-a.
Ah, crap.
You’re right. Damn it. Now I have to go fix it.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Nov 10, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
I'm Not a Loser...
…still my favorite Descendents song…
:=8)
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
Bernie via radio...
says that Cardinals GG winners are Yadi and THA MACHING.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
poor BOOG.
And I must say I’m shocked they gave it to Albert.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
They're not official until 2:30 CDT
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Why not give it to Gonzalez again?
What’s different this year compared to last, other than Pujols seems gimpier every year.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
Pujols won't win MVP this year.
so…they’ll give him a GG.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
That's a good point...
it’s kind of why I thought Tulo was the likely winner at SS.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
unofficial
it’s just what several different sources have been telling him since round about saturday
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
instant carnage is gonna get you...
Since we’re onto a new thread, I’ll re-post this and hope I’ve not violated some holy VEB blog rule:
Uuuuurrribe!!!????…….
Three of six MLBTR writers predict Uribe to land with STL.
Anyone else see this? Thoughts? Is this like sportscasters predicting the weather? I see the Batman likes the idea. I’m not too keen on it for a variety of reasons – mainly $ and a gawd-awful OBP. The same group of writers also unanimously predicted Westbrook signing with us.
Have to admit, I’m at a loss when it comes to solving MI depth. My guess is Mo will take care of this via trade rather than FA. I’d like to see Sean Rodriguez here, but the Rays probably would not go for that.
*
Juan Uribe. . .
is spanglish for Aaron Miles, maybe?
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 10, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
With about the same terrible BABIP as Brendan Ryan's last year....
Uribe fWAR = 3.2
Ryan fWAR = 1.0
Both at SS.
Juan Uribe would be an upgrade anywhere in our MI. Depending on the price (as always), I would gladly install him at 2B next year. Plus, he can play 2B, SS, or 3B if needed.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 10, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
So would he be best as the starting 2B,
or as the infield super-sub spelling all the usual starters as needed?
My guess would be that his contract would most likely be such as to be rather expensive as a sub, super or otherwise.
by ArkansasTravs on Nov 10, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
I don't get the MGMT thing, boring band
anyways, Tyler Greene for keystone duties!
Albert might get a GG as a makeup award for the last couple of seasons.
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:08 PM EST reply actions
What is the most popular band you do like?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
this is pretty boring but, it's probably Radiohead
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
I figured it'd be something I'd never heard of.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
if you're not kidding, i'm never talking to you again
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twatter
Poor wording on my behalf.
Radiohead is one of my favorite bands ever.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I think it's impossible not to like Radiohead
They are gods among men.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 10, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
the two sentences are redundant
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I was merely discounting his opinion based on the other shitty music he listens to.
If he disliked Radiohead but still liked good music, that would be another thing entirely.
I'm going to start using that as a pickup line at bars
Hi, I’m mojowo11. I’m another thing entirely.
do you just not like the vocals, or what?
I could see them having a Rush-like characteristic, where people don’t like certain vocal phrasings. the music though is top notch
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 11, 2010 3:18 AM EST up reply actions
I like some stuff of their I've heard
Other stuff made me start to fall asleep while driving and I had to make my friend turn it off.
I dunno, I feel like Radiohead has taken on this perception with their fans that anybody who doesn’t like them must be crazy, like they’re the Beatles or Mozart or something. I don’t think any musician is so good that people can’t reasonably not love them.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i liked them until they put down the guitars
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
you privvy to future records or something?
or are you talking about when they stop exclusively using guitars?
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twatter
yeah, thats pretty much insane
when Radiohead put down their guitars, that’s when they became legends.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Nov 11, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
I'm going to see Marnie Stern tonight
she’s sort of popular
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
There it is!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
you've never heard of Marnie Stern??
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
oh well, that's a good thing since I'm buying my ticket at the door
don’t want it to sell out!
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Nope.
I imagine it’s some sort of hedge fund?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
she's probably the best female guitar player to ever live
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I did not know Mellisa Ethridge changed her name.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
wtf
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Marnie Stern has 3 albums out that have all had some press on mainstream sites and mags
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
I think this is akin
to asking a casual Mariners fan in Vancouver what they think of Brendan Ryan’s +/-.
I like music, I just don’t have time to obsess over it anymore.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
yeah, I actually research this shit
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
I'm better at that than at sabermetrics ;)
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
I used to and would like to again.
I need a secretary.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I can keep namedropping bands here if you like
I’m serious about that Tame Impala rec… especially for mysterui, since he like the Beatles a lot (the vox remind me of Beatles stuff).
also, it’s nice only having to work part time!
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
yooooou will never come close to how i feeeeeel
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
yup!
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Facebook updates
Cards Fan in Chitown links to so many offbeat music videos and whatnot he’s pushing all the important Facebook updates off the front page … wait, how did this morph into a Fan Post rant?
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
there are important facebook updates?
the people you know must be a lot different than the people I know.
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
The sarcasm started at that point
I was trying to think of the best way to put it and the “yelled out suggestion from the studio audience” (ADHD can be a bitch) was that little bit, which has been used to blast people who publish unworthy Fan Posts on here.
Yeah, there is a lot of useless drek on Facebook (no, I don’t want to know what European city you’d be) … but not your stuff.
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
I used to post on there much more than I do now
people were getting pissed off, so I cut back the output.
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
did you listen to their second album, Chitown
Congratulations is right up your alley, I would think.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
I'd be surprised if I like it
that band has the half of DFA79 that I don’t like as much. I guess it’s worth a try, but every time I hear one of their songs I go meh
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
its completely different type of music
its pure psych rock, a lot like Tame Impala, actually.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
since I don't plan on spending much time trying to like a band that I don't like, give me one song to check out that you think I'd like
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
my favorite song is "It's Working"
but the lead single, “Flash Delirium” is just filled with rapidfire left turns. It’s like a fourteen minute prog rock epic on fast forward.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
hmm
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
this is contingent upon how different it is from the stuff I heard
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
what is contingent?
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
I dunno, I haven't heard the new album I guess, but what I've heard of the band is pretty lame
if the next album sounds a lot different from what I’ve heard, then yeah I might like it.. that’s all.
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
wow, that sounds awful
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wait
is it actually a 14-minute prog rock song, or a 14-minute prog rock song condensed to a tolerable length?
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its 4 minutes long
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
great
if there’s anything i hate more than prog rock, it’s 14-minute prog rock. i don’t really like MGMT, though
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twatter
yeah, I'm not gonna check them out unless I get a link or something
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 11, 2010 3:18 AM EST up reply actions
btw
have you heard the new Oceansize album? pretty good, lots of variety of music genres on there.
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
i have not.
i’ll give it a shot
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
it's nothing too amazing
but you might like it, who knows. it was rated really high for 2010 albums
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Chitown, have you ever heard of band called Mew?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
heard of, not heard yet
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
they're worth checking out.
they might be a bit poppy for you, although, I can’t put a finger on your tastes yet.
I’d try “Introducing Palace Players” first.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
my tastes are very random and subject like anyone else's
I tend to like somewhat experimental stuff that focuses on timbre and texture. also, I’m really hard on lyrics so I tend to like instrumental stuff.
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
meant to say subjective
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, I would say that
cmon now
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
if you don't like jazz or heavy metal, or experimental music, chances are you aren't going to like what's on my mp3 player
also, itunes sucks.
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
you wouldn't like them
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my music pick is a band called Tame Impala
check ‘em out, they’re an australian psychedlic rock band with a lot of pop sensibilities. every once in a while I enjoy a nice lighthearted pop album (that still rocks of course)
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:09 PM EST reply actions
I love those guys
Like Dungen, but in english.
by cloistermaximus on Nov 10, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
got to see Dungen live once
twas great
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
I like that song Expectation a lot
now listening
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
I think the Cards still need to work on defense
I’m still perplexed by the defensive ratings on Rasmus and Freese. both those guys looked above average to me. also, Jon Jay looked better than 0
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:13 PM EST reply actions
The ball seemed to get over Colby's head a few more times this year
which was likely just a problem of positioning for the most part.
yeah
never trust a defensive metric
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
also, it's got to be at least 3 years old
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
I bet Albert wins a GG
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
+1
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
lesson for the youngsters
don’t let your wisdom teeth come in, they will just cause problems further down the line
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:25 PM EST reply actions
i'm already screwed
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
my first problem which was years ago, was that one of my wisdom teeth cracked the molar that was ahead of it
now I am having the problem of one of the wisdom teeth cracking. it hurts!
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
my dentist gave me the ok for them to grow in...
said that I had enough room, and that was pretty lucky/rare. I haven’t had any problems thus far.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
nice
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Mine came in just fine, but...
it was because I had to have four molars removed when I was 12 or so. My mouth didn’t have room for all my teeth, which made them come in a little funny (especially my right front tooth on the top, it was at probably a 30 degree angle). So they yanked out those four, gave me braces, then a retainer (until I stopped wearing it, does anybody wear that damn things as long as they’re supposed to wear them?) and my wisdom teeth had plenty of room.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Mine are gone
was perhaps the easiest surgery of my life thus far,and the recovery time was really fast.
Yadi and Albert
It’s official!
What did Adam do to lose his?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
ummm... not make the playoffs?
who knows…
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
2010 National League Rawlings Gold Glove Award winners:
Bronson Arroyo, Yadier Molina, Albert Pujols, Brandon Phillips, Scott Rolen, Troy Tulowitzki, Michael Bourn, Shane Victorino and Carlos Gonzalez.
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Can't argue with any of these really.
I’d would have liked to see WW repeat, but Arroyo is deserving as well.
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
dude gets no respect
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Take my wife... please!
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by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 10, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
wrong dead comedian.
Take my wife, please = Henny Youngman
No Respect = Rodney
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I know... It was a The Office joke
Probably a bit too specialized now that I look it… Michael got ’em mixed up in the episode “Did I Stutter?”
And now, just b/c this image entertains me…
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by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 10, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
My bad.........
I don’t watch the office, not because I don’t think it’s not good, just because I had missed so much of it I can’t catch up without multiple box sets.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
btw, how did the canon photo weekend go?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
good, but I can honestly say I'm lost with that thing.....
plan for right now is, set to auto, take pictures. What a piece of equipment.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
yeah, it's overwhelming at first
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
that's what netflix is for
plus, the first five seasons are on immediate download
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 10, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting...
…Guy was one-tenth behind (drumroll) Chase “It’s HEADLEY” in 3B UZR. Interesting.
Rolen wasn’t a bad choice (a bad choice would’ve been David Wright), but he wasn’t the best one. This really is based on reputation and WAGing.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 10, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
In UZR/150, you mean.
There was a greater difference in just UZR. At least Zimmerman got the GG last year.
Yeah I meant that...
I tend to look at those charts too quickly sometimes on FG.com. I’m now self-flagellating to as punishment.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 10, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
Then so would Ryan
It’s not as bad as Jeter winning at SS though.
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
carlos gonzalez is not a top-3 OF defender in the NL
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no Rockie ever is UZR hates Rockies OF
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
yeah...
cause they aren’t good defenders.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 11, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
could be but I doubt that Dexter Fowler and Carlos Gonzalez are bad defenders
UZR is too inconsistent as a person who watched both Gonzalez and Holliday play OF there is no doubt in my mind who the better defender is.
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Wille Taveras has two below average years of defense in his career
the two years he was a Rockie. If Carlos Gonzalez can play a legit CF in Oakland I am comfortable with his ability to play LF in Colorado
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Rolen won his 8th.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Official GG's
Molina
Pujols
Phillips
Tulo
Rolen
Carlos Gonzalez
Victorino
Bourn
Arroyo
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
Ryan is not a Gold Glover
despite superior stats. What a suprise… This year’s SS choices are abysmal
I am sure the Walrus can play RF...
Tulo is a fine choice
i mean, defensible at least.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
This is a defense award
Ryan’s defense > Tulo’s defense.
Hence, a poor choice.
I am sure the Walrus can play RF...
While true
the voters see it as a “who is solid on defense and is a big enough name with a decent offensive season to win it?” award.
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
There's a distinction though btwn. a bad choice and a wrong one
A bad choice is picking someone who’s demonstrably terrible. Jeter, for example…
A wrong choice is someone who’s a good fielder, but didn’t have as good a season as someone else. Tulo is a wrong choice… Jose Reyes (-5.7 UZR) would be a bad choice.
And ftr… Boog should have won if you go by UZR. Being a bad hitter, prone to fugly errors, and being merely Brenden Ryan put him out of the running in all likelihood.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 10, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, I didn't think it was that bad, although boog is clearly way better at defense
they just need to change the definition of the award if they keep snubbing the defensive wizards
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
GG Philosophical Question
Should a player be in a certain number of games before he is considered for the Gold Glove. I respect Tulowitski and freely acknowledge he’s got talent. But he only played in 117 games this year. At what point do we stop and say “sample size is too small”?
that's about the number of games Colby was in
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
yeah I know
/useless trivia
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
123
then Boog would have qualified with 124 starts. Seriously, going on the DL with a fractured wrist probably gives Tulo a pass while Boog was starting about 75% of the games until Freese went down.
It's worth noting
Boog had more attempts than any other shortstop in the NL, even though he wasn’t a full-time starter all year.
i weep for the future
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Alcohol sales are going to sky rocket this off season, methinks.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Obviously this answer is 28.
See Palmeiro, Rafael in 1999.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
the voters see 17 errors and give it to the bitch that cries the loudest
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
17 errors is a lot
i mean, fielding percentage isn’t the best stat. But it is a stat. And not all of those errors were on players that other shortstops wouldn’t have got too.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
his UZR was the best though
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
he's not that well known but they're aware of him
boog’s problem (in terms of gg) is that he’s not derek jeter
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Totally irrelevant fact
Tulo had an OPS of .949. As a shortstop. That’s about 100 points better than Hanley Ramirez.
Stop and digest that.
Yeah, Tulo's season was ridic
However, who knows if he would have sustained that OPS. It was basically a 3/4 season, right?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
except he only got better as his wrist healed
his first half was by far his best ever go take a look at his 2009 splits from June on he posted a 1000+ ops for four straight monthes
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Tulowitzki isn't a bad choice.
He and Ryan were the best at the position this year.
B-R link
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
there's 25 runs between boog and jeter
one got a gg, the other did not
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Heh...Jeter's not last in MLB
B-R’s MLB fielding for SS (Total Zone as used yesterday in their critique…)
114 – Ian Desmond
115 – Jeter
116 – H-Ram
117 – Angel Sanchez
118 – Starlin Castro
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
I'd Give it to Boog anyway...
…he has a really nice hair cut…
:=8)
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
plus he's the most rangey shortstop out there
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
U'd think the shoulder-lick would buy him an extra point or two...
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
Boog has unatural range that robbery of Adam Kennedy would have sealed it for
me, however, the Fielding Bible did give it to Tulo this year as well so that is one point in his favor
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
this means that Votto won MVP
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
in case you missed my fanshot, Boog is 41st all time in TZR in basically 2 seasons worth of games
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 3:49 PM EST reply actions
What percentage of American would know that sentence was about baseball?
Over/Under: 15%
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Under your under.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
by TBender on Nov 10, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Under, definitely
I’d say the percentage of baseball fans that would know it was about baseball is also under 15%.
by ArkansasTravs on Nov 10, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Gawd....
Strauss on the fast lane… says he “sees some internal preference for making a move at short as compared to 2nd”….
not block-quoted because I am paraphrasing… BUT my hate for him won’t even be improved by a unicorn.
FEARMONGER!
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
GRRRR
Atticus Finch: Surfs up chatmeister, love the chats. My question is this: Will Mo be weary of looking for any long term solution at 2B with Zach Cox on the horizon? Does the team still project him as a second baseman? Who does your gut tell you will be our starting second baseman next season. Thanks.
Joe Strauss: Cox will not be next year’s second baseman, though he will be seen in major-league camp. Schumaker still enjoys the public support of the manager and front office. There appears more an inclination to make a change at shortstop. However, the situation may change if the right player becomes available via trade. Very fluid.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
He doesn't know scat.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Also, "very fluid" is the most annoying phrase a "reporter" can use.
It’s essentially saying “hell, who the shit knows.”
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I really want to become GM of the Cardinals some day just so I can ban Joe Strauss from everything
Yes, that is the only reason I would want to be a GM
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
And public support could mean something said last spring...
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
So...
Schumaker’s bosses like him so they won’t change. Probably. But they might if the right player is available. Possibly.
Joe… Joe… Who’s that right player? Any idea?
ten minutes later…
No??? Okay then…
Why do people who are literally incapable of saying anything meaningful paid writers? I don’t get it.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 10, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
because they don't get paid enough
for anyone half-way competent to want to do the job.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
If this is true
then FUCK.
But it’s Strauss, so who knows.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
as full of shit as strauss is, it does kind of pass the smell test
schu is still under contract for 2m and not really moveable. if we get a 2B we’ll eat the contract.
boog is valuable, cheap, and under no commitments.
by YesWeOquendo on Nov 10, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
i need more liquor
at least could the Braves pick him up
so he and Bombs can make their show together
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Boog is first year arb eligible
so he won’t be that cheap in 2011. Schu has the distinct possibility of being waived next off season instead of being offered arbitration.
I'm pretty sure the 2 year deal bought out his remaining arby years.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Nyet
Skip only has 4 + years of service time. Here is his salary history per Cot’s
- 2 years/$4.7M (2010-11), re-signed by St. Louis 2/8/10
avoided arbitration, $2.75M-$1.45M), 10:$2M, 11:$2.7M
- 1 year/$0.43M (2009), re-signed by St. Louis 2/28/09
- 1 year/$0.396M (2008), re-signed by St. Louis 3/4/08
- 1 year/$0.382M (2007), re-signed by St. Louis 2/07
- 1 year/$0.329M (2006), re-signed by St. Louis 2/06
-1 year (2005), contract purchased by St. Louis 6/05
fair nuff....
I thought last year was his second arb year, not first.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
There's no way Rolen is better than Zimmerman...
and there’s no reason to give it to Pujols, who’s gimpier than ever. Oh well, I was 5 for 9.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
Adrian Gonzalez was robbed
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
boohoo
everyone gets robbed by the GG. its not a real award. it’s like a grammy.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
Yadi didn't get robbed....
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
It was almost Jeterian.
Gonzalez = 6 (1)
Pujols = -2 (77)
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
not even close
Josh Wilson = 12
Derek Jeter = – 10
That is 22 runs worse. Pujols is only 8 runs worse. But it’s still a little bit of robbing going on.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
It could be a real award...
if they stop taking into account offense. What they should do is simply award negative votes based on ops – the higher the ops, the more negative votes the player is awarded. This will solve the problem of bias toward good hitters.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
but then you have Pujol's 2007
When his Rtot was 25 (next closes was Helton’s 13) and his OPS .997
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
VEB could be put in charge...
of granting dispensations to certain players.
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd
that bias will never be eliminated
for the simple reason that they don’t have to justify their votes
the only way awards based on performance will be better is if they assigned weight to every relevant stat, put the data in a spreadsheet and let it spit out the best guys
and while we’re at it, bring on the robot umps
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
And awards would be calculated and compiled within 30 minutes of the final regular season game and we’d have nothing to talk about in November. Though I wanted Boog to win just because I think he’s a good guy who needed the morale boost (and, of course, deserved it).
But hey, something has to make the offseason interesting, since we can’t spend much on free agents this year. Maybe Quaker State will announce a TLR & Miles Grits campaign. That’d be fanshot worthy.
It's kinda like a Grammy
Except some people actually still care about the Gold Glove award.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
almost every national broadcast lists Gold Glove winners when they put up their lineups.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
they do what now?
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
put a little gold glove next to their name
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 10, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
inexplicable
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
they do what now?
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
put a little gold glove next to their name
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 10, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
inexplicable
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
how's everyone's work day going?
I’m participating in the toxic cocktail of making revenue adjustments, entering invoices into our local system and our international system, and posting check and wire payments. woohoo!
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:14 PM EST reply actions
I just upgraded a circuit from 5M to 9M
ROCK AND ROLL WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
awh yeah
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
damn
I was hoping it was after 4pm by now
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
website sprint kickoff
and user experience hours estimates for said sprint. booooyaw, agile environment! huzzah, iterative development!
I've always like the word agile
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
be sure to obey!
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
thanks for clearing that up lol
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
just in case "they" are watching
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
they're always watching
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I have attended one class
Got lunch with buddies, and am currently sitting in my room in my boxers
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
College is tough, eh?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I am working on an annual report
about anadromous fish and a large water project… my eyes are bleeding…
Gritty Proven Veteran
by RosevilleRedbird on Nov 10, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
what watershed are we talking?
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
i get paid to be here till 4:30
i’ll be here till 10
nuff said, regadless of the snoozefest i’m working on right now, this day is already hell
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
My pseudo-work day is going pretty normal
Since I’m a stay-at-home parent right now, I’m not sure if I should start my “work day” when my two year old wakes up or when I start making breakfast for my wife so she can get to work on time. So, as it is about 4:10 I’ve either been working for 10 to 10and a half hours already. Yay!
Caveat: my main client takes a nap everyday for about an hour and a half, so I can good off at will for that time, unless I’m doing laundry or dishes.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
good off = goof off
My typing skills have deteriorated, don’t tell my boss.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
what?
lol
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't hear anything about you goofin off
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
By goof off I mean check websites without having to worry about anything
And by “main client” I mean my very energetic almost-two-year-old.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I was going for the I ain't rattin you out approach
what are you talking about? I am not familiar
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 11, 2010 3:20 AM EST up reply actions
Blah, sorry
I just got confused. Let’s pretend this never happened, and I’m still clever and awesome.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Yeah!
But I better figure out when it’s time to quite so I don’t become type-cast.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I've met both my classes,
finished grading a test, registered 5 of my students for spring, and entered overrides for half a dozen others.
Actually, now that I think about it, a fairly productive day. If I can just keep up the momentum tomorrow!
by ArkansasTravs on Nov 10, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
a) momentum is overrated
b) … i have no b
you teach english or writing, right?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Nope
about as far from that as you can get, mechanical engineering with an occasional nuclear course thrown in.
by ArkansasTravs on Nov 11, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
ohh the easy stuff
you must get a lot of student athletes in your courses.
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Haha
actually, we’ve had quite a few athletes over the years. And almost all of them have been good students. Most have been in football but quite a few baseball players too. We’ve had just about every sport represented except basketball and cross-country.
by ArkansasTravs on Nov 11, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Can someone write a firefox add on
that gives me a pop up warning whenever I accidentally click on Jeff Gordon’s “columns.” Those sneak P-D Headline writers got me again.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
after that will someone write me one that will tell me how many new comments are on the thread in my tab.
GET TO WORK, PEOPLE.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I have only one thing to say about the NL GG at SS
And that is this. I feel that it conveys my opinion of the results on several levels.
they should just put him on webgems like every other game, eventually people will figure it out
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
typical boog luck:
one time he made a stupid, stupid good play, it was a Friday. FESPN does not-top-ten on Fridays.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I agree with your statement.
And you said it so well, from 6 feet out in the grass…
Gritty Proven Veteran
by RosevilleRedbird on Nov 10, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
I knew which play that was
before I clicked on it. Amazing.
by ArkansasTravs on Nov 10, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
The baserunner
The thing that really sells that whole play is the fact that it was Tulowitzki running down the line.
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
I can't believe how fast he went from catch to release
Especially given that he was sliding. Such an athletic play.
being Brendan Ryan
must be depressing. it’s Dangerfieldian levels of depressing.
well, at least we believe in him.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
we should have a confidence poll for him.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
gdm levels of depressing?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
uh, yes
actually.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
first floor apartment, Brendan
look into it.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
If he ever starts (and finishes) 150 games
-especially if the Cardinals are in first for most of the season - I think he’ll have a shot.
Not justifying it, but it’s pretty unlikely a coach/manager/whomever would ever vote for a guy that is barely even a full time starter.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
DAMN YOU STRIKE-THROUGH
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Adam Everett borrows bats and helmets from the starting pitchers.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
fuck yeah
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
who's the third? jay/craig?
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
oh yeah, the 8th batter
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, hopefully he will be more yadi-like next season
put some weight back on
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Further proof these things are a joke and why we shouldn't care about them.
Year | Everett’s UZR/150 | Winner’s UZR/150
2003 | 9.3 | 6.1
2004 | 18.9 | 14.8
2005 | 14.3 | 6.5
2006 | 25.8 | 10.5
2007 | 19.9 | 2.4 (mind you the previous year’s winner, Omar V, had a 23.2 this season!)
2008 | 11.9 | -4.2 (Michael Young won a Gold Glove?)
2009 | 8.8 | 8.0 (JETER!!!)
2010 | 4.4 | -5.4 (jeter….)
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
so it's Tony La Russa's fault, I see....
it’s crazy that Elvis didn’t have a shot either
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Posted without comment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqDGK_UjfFI&feature=player_embedded
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
That's no naked grandma....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YAOAAZA4Tg
THAT’S a naked grandma!!!
;=8)
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
Fielding bible
not perfect…but about as good as there is right now.
1B- Pujols led for NL
2B- Utley should have got, Phillips was 2nd and a d-bag
3B- Zimmerman deserved it, Rolen close
SS- Tulo highest, ryan second (two 1st place votes)
OF- They go by LF,CF,RF and Bourn led in CF, victorino and cargo barely made the list…with many players beating them out including Young, Pagan, Torres, Tabata, Holiday, bruce, and heyward.
C- Yadi was the first ever to get all 1st place votes in the feilding bible
P- Arroyo led the NL with westbrook, carpenter, and waino all in the top 5
Overall mostly defensable besides victorino and cargo, with zimmerman and utley getting screwed. How is utley still underated?
http://www.billjamesonline.net/fieldingbible/complete-votetally.asp
by I miss Jack Buck on Nov 10, 2010 5:17 PM EST reply actions
who's utley
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
never heard of the guy.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i smell something
i think it’s hair gel
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 10, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
though... it was bizarre how he turned into Dan Uggla for a couple of innings
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Must not be all that great then
I guess if the Phillies wanna dump his contract I wouldn’t mind if the Cards picked him up. Say, Stavinoha and Ottavino for Utley?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 10, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I still want Skip Schumaker off my team
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
and...
if Edmonds can sign with the Yankees, and somehow replaces their CF after a freak injury, and goes on to win a GG, will it solidify his place in the HOF?
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
Did you hit enter about 15 times?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
when it does that,
preview, then post.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i wonder what codyg's opinion of this is
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by prophetjohn on Nov 10, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
thank you
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Re-did the numbers sort from yesterday
This time I used the Rdrs shown on BR, rather than the Rtot…
This time, rating/games if less than typical for starter, and I’ve included all teams for traded players and all OF numbers for those positions.
American League
P Buehrle +8, Romero +10, Cahill +9
C Mauer +3, J.Molina +6/56, Pierzynski +6
1B Teixiera -1, Barton +20, Morneau +9/77
2B Cano +7, Hudson +17, Rodriguez +17/92
3B Longoria +13, Lopez +15, Kouzmanoff +13
SS Jeter -13, Ramirez +16, Gonzalez +16
LF Crawford +14, Gardner +16, Crisp +9/73 (in CF, but hardly any decent LF’ers)
CF Guttierrez +14, Jackson +21, Bourjos +15/51 (not a typo, 10 A in 51 G)
RF Suzuki +12, Choo +11, Cruz +11/101
Overall: P, 3B, and 1-2 OF spots are completely valid; C, 2B, and 1-2 OF spots are questionable; and they completely boned both 1B and SS (really? Jeter?)
National League
P Arroyo +6, Garland +6, Hudson +6
C Molina +12, Olivo +14, Torrealba +7/92
1B Pujols +0, Davis +13, Huff +6/100
2B Phillips +0, Utley +14, Eckstein +3 (Little Buddy?)
3B Rolen +2, Headley +21, Zimmerman +20
SS Tulowitzki +16, Ryan +27, Escobar +19
LF Gonzalez -2, Parra +20/113, Torres +12
CF Bourn +16, Byrd +11, Gwynn +11/105
RF Victorino +11 (in CF), Bruce +17, Stanton +17/98
Overall: P, C, and one OF spot are completely valid; SS (3rd at pos, but way behind ML Rdrs leader, BOOG!) and one OF spot are questionable; and 1B, 2B, 3B, and last OF spot are way off line from stats.
Again, this is just a review of essentially one stat on the Baseball-Reference page, and I’m just sorting the tables and such. So forgive me my sacrilege against The Mang.
Ms Bitters (Invader Zim): Children, your performance was miserable. Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.
by Rejuvenile on Nov 10, 2010 5:33 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
he's already in the Hall of Fame though
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
no one made an inane comment about his engagement
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he's ready to go
just don’t hit any more grand slams, Brad
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
obviously they sap his lifeforce
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 10, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
how do you go from
out for the rest of the year, can’t even pitch in late september/early october
to best shape of his fuckin life a month later?
9 starts! nine. i hope his fiance enjoys the ring we bought her
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
i know i'm despondent and all but it has to be said
Yadier Molina is badass.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Wise words
from Doc Halladay.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
heh
One last word of advice: For young people who have torn or ruptured rotator cuffs, I’m really sorry.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I wish Darren Oliver had approached me when I was four
And told me to start throwing left-handed.
“Seriously, you won’t even have to be that good to have a 15+ year career.”
That Bus Campbell is mentioned in The Onion is so cool
that old man was like thepainguy, Crash Davis and Mr. Miyagi all rolled into one
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
no, seriously, can we have a confidence poll for Brendan Ryan?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
For our confidence in him, or for our guess as to his confidence level?
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
our confidence in him
it’s not like anyone has to guess at his confidence level
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he has my confidence
go forth and rock, boog
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 11, 2010 3:21 AM EST up reply actions
who was recing GG picks
i nailed the whole outfield
only ones i missed were halladay, utley and wright
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Simba for the Hall
How many think he will get in? should get in?
I wasn’t a simmons advocate early-on but I’ve been won over — I think he should go in.
Just win
lolno
Mufasa’s career adjusted MAR (Majesty Above Replacement) and MBWR (Mane To Body Weigh Ratio) are both way higher than Simba’s and he’s still not in. Sure, Simba leads him in MAP (Movies As Protagonist), but that’s a counting stat, so you can’t just look at that and make snap judgments about ability without considering the rate stats.
by mojowo11 on Nov 10, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, I have to agree
Especially about the counting stats. I mean, by that logic both Fox and Hound have a better HOF case. Aladdin is a first ballot HOFer, dude had two sequels!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Counting stats
HOW TED SIMMONS RATES WITH HALL OF FAME CATCHERS
RUNS
Carlton Fisk 1,276
Yogi Berra 1,175
Buck Ewing 1,118
Johnny Bench 1,091
Ted Simmons 1,074
Mickey Cochrane 1,041
Bill Dickey 930
Gabby Hartnett 867
Rick Ferrell 687
Roger Bresnahan 684
Roy Campanella 627
Ernie Lombardi 601
Ray Schalk 579
HITS
Ted Simmons 2,472
Carlton Fisk 2,356
Yogi Berra 2,150
Johnny Bench 2,048
Bill Dickey 1,969
Gabby Hartnett 1,912
Ernie Lombardi 1,792
Rick Ferrell 1,692
Buck Ewing 1,663
Mickey Cochrane 1,652
Ray Schalk 1,345
Roger Bresnahan 1,251
Roy Campanella 1,161
DOUBLES
Ted Simmons 483
Carlton Fisk 421
Gabby Hartnett 396
Johnny Bench 381
Bill Dickey 343
Mickey Cochrane 333
Rick Ferrell 324
Yogi Berra 321
Ernie Lombardi 277
Buck Ewing 237
Roger Bresnahan 222
Ray Schalk 199
Roy Companella 178
HOME RUNS
Johnny Bench 389
Carlton Fisk 376
Yogi Berra 358
Ted Simmons 248
Roy Campanella 242
Gabby Hartnett 236
Bill Dickey 202
Ernie Lombardi 190
Mickey Cochrane 119
Buck Ewing 66
Rick Ferrell 28
Roger Bresnahan 26
Ray Schalk 12
RBI
Yogi Berra 1,430
Ted Simmons 1,389
Carlton Fisk 1,386
Johnny Bench 1,376
Bill Dickey 1,209
Gabby Hartnett 1,179
Ernie Lombardi 990
Buck Ewing 883
Roy Campanella 856
Mickey Cochrane 832
Rick Ferrell 734
Ray Schalk 596
Roger Bresnahan 531
BATTING AVERAGE
Mickey Cochrane .320
Bill Dickey .313
Ernie Lombardi .306
Buck Ewing .303
Gabby Hartnett .297
Ted Simmons .285
Yogi Berra .285
Rick Ferrell .281
Roger Bresnahan .279
Roy Campanella .276
Carlton Fisk .269
Johnny Bench .267
Ray Schalk .253
GAMES CAUGHT
Carlton Fisk 2,226
Rick Ferrell 1,806
Gabby Hartnett 1,793
Ted Simmons 1,771
Johnny Bench 1,742
Ray Schalk 1,727
Bill Dickey 1,708
Yogi Berra 1,699
Ernie Lombardi 1,544
Mickey Cochrane 1,451
Roy Campanella 1,183
Roger Bresnahan 974
Buck Ewing 636
Just win
By actual counting stats, it's actually kind of surprising that he isn't in the HOF
But by Disney movie stats I totally understand.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
He played in the 1970's for a bad team.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
I think we established yesterday that someone is taking care of that already.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
but, just in case he needs some help
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
nah
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 11, 2010 3:21 AM EST up reply actions
what you are too good for Herpes?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
Brian Bannister cleared waivers and is now a free agent.
I wish he was better because I really like that he embraces sabermetrics.
classifications are kind of arbitrary
i guess kind a free/hard bop hybrid of sorts
are you looking for jazz?
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Yeah
I have most of the standard stuff – Thelonious and Davis, etc., but I’m looking for something more downbeat and depressing, like the Radiohead song, and most of the stuff I have is upbeat.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 10, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
i don't really know how avant garde you're looking to go,
so i don’t know how well your tastes are going to sync up with mine, but here’s a few that i consider essential that might be up your alley. but if you’re going into this looking for something that sounds like radiohead, you’re probably going to be disappointed
coltrane – a love supreme
coltrane – om
pharoah sanders – the creator has a master plan
albert ayler – spiritual unity
charles mingus – the black saint and the sinner lady
ornette coleman – the shape of jazz to come
sun ra – lanquidity
lanquidity or om is probably what i would recommend you pick up first. and neither of those coltrane albums are my favorites, but they’re certainly more accessible to someone just getting into jazz than interstellar space or ascension. feel free to check either of those out, though, if you like this kind of stuff
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greatest artist to ever live?
probably. he covered so many styles and he covered them all excellently
amazes me that someone can put out something like blue train and then later something like interstellar space and both be amazing
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Coltrane's life story is nothing less than uplifting
he pretty much lived it all
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 11, 2010 3:23 AM EST up reply actions
Lanquidity is a really great album
I think mainly Mingus, Coltrane, and Charlie Parker are what sold me on jazz at first. Sun Ra as well, but he’s even more of an acquired taste.
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 11, 2010 3:22 AM EST up reply actions
i'm so depressed, i probably shouldn't drink
is there anything on the hot stove that’s not filled with Dread?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
but he could sign with someone else
that’s dreadful
unless i’m not caught up on the news
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
alcohol is probably your only option.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
well
fuck
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Mouth fiest?

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
fiesta!!!!
sonovabitch
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
yeah, the Rox seem interested in ol' westie
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 11, 2010 3:23 AM EST up reply actions
yeah i watched some of that
loosing 3 of your top 6 defenders is a really bad thing
by YesWeOquendo on Nov 10, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
albert want to end his career as a cardinal
hopefully not in the near future
by YesWeOquendo on Nov 10, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
depression:
I have the espn scorecenter app on my phone. I have the cardinals set up as a favorite team, so every time I check any score on my favorites I see an empty Cardinals score staring back at me. 3/31/2011. Cards v. Padres. 4:15. Seems so far away…
mysterui's favorite jpeg of the day

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Nov 10, 2010 9:33 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
COME ON THIS IS COMEDIC GOLD
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
this is my not impressed face

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by prophetjohn on Nov 11, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
where's Motte
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I love schnauzers
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 12, 2010 3:00 AM EST up reply actions
comcast sport net bay area is showing the Glen Burke story tonight ......just sayin
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.I don't know what you're talking about,"
Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
by riftraftredbird on Nov 10, 2010 10:38 PM EST reply actions
I come back from practice and only 27 new comments?
Late night VEB you’ve failed me again
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
lboros sent out an email
Told us not to post so you’d be bored when you got back.
by mojowo11 on Nov 11, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
that'll learn 'em
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I like the number 27, that is all.
'Hold my stones!'
"Ernie Hayes is up there playing with his organ again." - Mike Shannon
cannot bring myself to reply to latest fanpost
going to go to bed and hope i fall out during the night
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
strauss said in his chat (yeah, yeah)
that there may be momentum for a deal for stephen drew going down before the winter meetings.
he made $3.4MM last year. his final 2 arb years may be able to be bought out for around $12-14MM at which point he walks as a free agent and we get picks. i like the idea, i think
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I think the rumor he came up with was Boog, Jay, and a bullpen arm for Drew
Which I would do in a second
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
a chathead proposed that
and strauss said the cards would want another player in return. i would imagine he mines a minor league non-prospect type. but yeah, i’d do that deal
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one way or another
i think selling high on jay is the best way to go
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trading jay is addition by subtraction...
since it unleashes craig…
Screw you, you freakin stats nerd

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