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Roy Halladay pitches a no-hitter; Evan MacLane pitched for the Cardinals

So, Roy Halladay. What's scary about Roy Halladay is he set or matched career highs in a lot of categories this season—strikeout rate, walk rate, shutouts, complete games, the usual Roy Halladay categories—and he's been so good for so long that, before today, media coverage made it pretty easy to think he was having a down year. 

Now, of course, it will be as though we all watched his brilliant season with awe from Opening Day. Is he a Hall of Famer? Pragmatically I think last night's performance was more important to his eventual induction than his likely second Cy Young Award will be. Those two injury-shortened seasons after his breakout 2003 hurt the look of his career; what should be an incredible, extended peak is split in two.

But for peak voters it'll be hard to pass up four innings titles, three 20-win seasons, and, most bluntly, the 151-69 record, the 3.04 ERA, the 1961 innings he's thrown in the years since he came back from a 2000 season that nearly put him out of baseball. How good has he been? Since 2002 he's spent much of two years on the disabled list, missing 29 or 30 starts in the process, and still averaged 218 innings per season, which would have been good for seventh in the National League this year, just ahead of Ubaldo Jimenez

What I like about the possibility of his eventual Hall induction is that it gives me the opportunity to mention Happy Jack Chesbro. Happy Jack, inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1946 because someone looked at his 1904 season in the encyclopedia and thought to themselves, "41? That's a lot of wins...", is, as far as a cursory Play Index search can tell, the only Hall of Fame pitcher to flame out quite as spectacularly as Halladay did in 2000. At the end of his career, in an abbreviated 1909 season, the spitballer went 0-5 with an ERA of 6.14. It was the height of the dead ball era; the league ERA was 2.47. 

Hall of Fame pitchers have had bad years before, and will again, but when you get as far below replacement level as Halladay did it takes most of them an entire terrible season to manage it. That Halladay pitched as badly as a worn-out spitballer when he 23, and has since turned himself into the most consistent pitcher of his era, is remarkable, and if it takes a playoff no-hitter to put his 2297 excellent regular season innings more firmly into public consciousness, all the better. 

Meanwhile, I was trying to come up with a picture of the least-memorable Cardinal of 2010, and came to the conclusion that there weren't any especially unmemorable players this year. Sorry, Evan MacLane—Steve Hill at least homered.

Star-divide

I could be wrong, but it seems like we usually get at least one minor league free agent wild-card on the roster for a few days. 2009 had Blaine Boyer, but he's not quite anonymous enough, either; he inspired some minor blog ire because he was traded for the delightful Brian Barton, who's currently hitting .346 with 19 home runs in the Atlantic League and should consider hiring a better agent. 

We have to go all the way back to 2008 to find players that meet my exacting specifications, but once we get there you'll find some fine examples. Josh Phelps, former Baseball Prospectus cover-boy, hit 31 home runs for Memphis that year and got a completely unmemorable 19 game call-up. Uncle Rico Washington broke camp with the big club after years in minor league obscurity and lasted just long enough to play four positions. 

But the winner of the prize for 2008, far more deserving than poor Evan MacLane, is third catcher Mark Johnson, whose very name dooms him aptronymically to obscurity. A long-tenured former White Sox backup, Johnson hadn't received regular Major League playing time since 2002 by the time he played 10 games for the Cardinals in September, 2008. According to Google he was mentioned 24 times on Viva El Birdos, to Evan MacLane's 115. 

This is maybe the least beneficial of all the results of building a deep farm system, but there's something heartening about the Cardinals being able to provide their own fifth-stringers. Even Ruben Gotay, the best of the minor league free agents, couldn't reach the big leagues with his .410 AAA OBP; last year he would have competed with Brian Barden and Joe Thurston for the job at third base. 

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MacLane'd!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 8:25 AM EDT reply actions  

These goggles they do nothing...

Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 7, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Who could forget his memorable childhood work

Mein bratwurst has a first name,
It’s F-R-I-T-Z,
Mein bratwurst has a second name,
It’s S-C-H-N-A-C-K-E-N-P-F-E-F-F-E-R-H-A-U-S-E-N.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

i'm very annoyed

That i had to miss halladay’s little piece of history.

by sdrone on Oct 7, 2010 9:10 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

The only thing I'd disagree with

is that MacLane wasn’t merely anonymous; he was toxic, but fortunately, in small doses. Simply put, he wasn’t very good, whether in his brief major-league “career” or at Memphis. MacLane apologists can argue that he wasn’t given a chance to succeed in the Show. But why is a journeyman minor-league pitcher who was putting up a 4.45 ERA at Memphis — and yeah, the PCL is generally hard on pitchers, but Memphis far less than most — perceived as meriting that chance, except in a “break-glass-in-emergency” kind of way?

Make no mistake: I envy him what he did, and sincerely wish him well in the future. However, if the farm system doesn’t improve to the point that MacLane emergency appearances are no longer needed, somebody isn’t doing their job.

StanTheManFan
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He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.

by StanTheManFan on Oct 7, 2010 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Apparently he has siblings?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 8, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I still can't believe Orlando Cabrera and the reds fans saying they got screwed by the ump last night....

and we are the whining bitches! Hahaha…..seriously though, that was awesome. The only thing that would have made it better is if Carpenter was the one that threw the no no against them.

by hockeyno93 on Oct 7, 2010 9:12 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

In the decisive game of the NLCS.

StanTheManFan
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He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.

by StanTheManFan on Oct 7, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'd vote for the next three games

I’d like to see this trend carry over into next season.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 7, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah.

I want Phillips to hit a HR in the next two as Philly beats them 4-1 and 6-1. Just so we’ll hear him talk about how he’s the guy who makes thing happen.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

i mean...how hilarious really....

your post season game in 15 years….fans are excited, their stomachs are churning all day, butterflies are flying…..and after all that waiting….nothing, nil, zilch, notta….

The Reds haven’t been no hit since 1971, and the pick their first playoff game to do so…unbelieveable.

by hockeyno93 on Oct 7, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

er...typos.....

you first post season game……1971, and they pick their first….

PS….Carlos Ruiz sounds a lot like the Mang with his “gangs, mangs, etc”

by hockeyno93 on Oct 7, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

at least Chris Carpenter kicked your ass and THEN

told you your balls were slick

Halladay was lights out yesterday and prophetjohn posted the spray chart link and it’s clear one ball was called a strike and four strikes were called balls. so who got screwed here?
tip your fuckin cap and deal with it idiots

here’s to two more shutouts from little Roy and Hamels

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

looks like at least the first one could happen

Roy Oswalt is 9-0 in 10 career starts at the Bank with a 2.10 ERA. Combine that with his career 23-3 record against the Reds with a 2.83 ERA, and you’ve got the makings of a deep hole to dig out of headed back to GABP this weekend.

“So long, farewell, Auf wiedersehen, good night,
I hate to go and leave this pretty sight.
So long, farewell, Auf wiedersehen, adieu,
Adieu, adieu, to yieu and yieu and yieu!”

by hockeyno93 on Oct 7, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i personally enjoyed

When carpenter said to an extent that he couldn’t be held liable for what happened….reminds me of Shakespeare’s Henry v when he tells the town of harfleur he’s not responsible for what happens when he lets his soldiers loose.

by TheWagonMakerCometh on Oct 7, 2010 10:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's unfortunate

That they didn’t just maintain a quiet dignity about their historic defeat. You can think there are bad calls and be correct, there are bad/missed calls in every game. But in this situation, just take your lumps, congratulate the guy and get ready for the next game.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

you're asking a lot

Humility and dignity is a big no-no for them.

by TheWagonMakerCometh on Oct 7, 2010 10:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Can you imagine if Carp no-hit them and Cabrera said such things?

It would be like a Samsonite store in their locker room! SO MUCH LUGGAGE!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

carp would probably say

Something along the lines of: I don’t give a fuck about Orlando Cabrera’s opinion.

by TheWagonMakerCometh on Oct 7, 2010 10:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You're doing it wrong.

It’s CDGAFAOCO. Carp goes into third person narrative when make a statement like that.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Humility and Dignity is

quite scarce in the NL Central now that I think about it. With the whole Untucking Brewers, Century Cubs and Bitching Reds we are in a division of scumbags…

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 7, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

In their defense,

the other clubs might claim that “screaming Carpenter” and “glaring Pujols” suggest a certain arrogance is possessed by the Cardinals.

by dronemc on Oct 7, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Heh

at least screaming Motte has the decency to do it inside his glove… But you’re right

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 7, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Motte gets a pass.

I think it’s clear to even casual observers that there’s a better than 50% chance that he’s clinicaly insane.

by dronemc on Oct 7, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

i saw the dude do a cartwheel

he’s normal

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

video

truth

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's not a cartwheel

you’re just pimpin’ your fanshot

in other news, i like to sing-a. about the sun-a and the moon-a and the spring-a. i like to sing-a

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

i actually had a shot at the cartwheel

and then some dude walked right in front of me
i curse the day he was born
/or something else engry

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

that son of a gun

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

i never said it was a cartwheel

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was implied

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or if you can't manage that, just keep your mouth shut.

"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.

by The Continental on Oct 7, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

However, I do get the feeling that Halladay, as his career goes on, is achieving such a reputation for being a control artist that he’s getting an almost Glavine/Maddux-esque zone from some umpires. That PG he threw earlier this year was ridiculous; he should’ve walked about 3 or 4 batters with a fair zone.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 7, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think i mentioned Mark Johnson all 24 times

usually in response to someone calling for a Bryan Anderson appearance.

“They signed MJ specifically to be the third catcher…”

by adiueordie on Oct 7, 2010 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

memes do make liars of us all

or something.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Beautiful game last night

It was a treat to be able to witness history. I believe Doc would have outpitched anyone that night and I can’t believe Orlando Cabrera’s comments.

I can believe the majority of rr defending Cabrera though. I have a few questions for the veterans of this forum:

Why is the general consensus over at rr that we are all a bunch of inbred hicks? Is this what fanboyism has come to?

Why do they believe there’s some sort of rivalry between the two clubs? Personally I believe it takes a lot to overtake the cubs.

by TheWagonMakerCometh on Oct 7, 2010 10:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Wait... you weren't inbred?

My mom/sis and uncle/dad have a lot of explaining to do.

I would say the rivalry started this year. Usually the Reds are too irrelevant to be a rival. I’m pretty sure most teams in the NL Central look at the Cards as a rival, since we’ve had the most sustained success the past decade or so.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

true

Who knows it could be the pirates (doubtful) next year. What I don’t understand is why it can’t be friendly like the astros in 04-05 and to a certain extent today.

I’d feel comfortable going to a cards game in Houston, not so much in Cincinnati.

by TheWagonMakerCometh on Oct 7, 2010 10:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

uhhhh it quickly became unfriendly with the Astros

though I have a feeling Berkman and Pujols were mostly amused by it all.

search for dugout-clearing, and the ’Stros were on the list. and yes: they still boo Albert Pujols.

nothing to this extent, though. mostly because of the bodily harm, and the lack of remorse. you’re probably fine in Cinci. it’s not like there’ll be much of a mob.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's unfriendly with the Houston fans for certain.

But most of those fans don’t show up at the games. Well, really, not a lot of Astros fans of any type show up at the games in MMP.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

someone was saying cubs-cards isn’t a rivalry, but I was thinking: at least cubs fans show up for it. (though they’ve been ebbing lately, it’s been disappointing.)

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just laugh when fans boo opposing players for being good.

One could make the argument that it’s a good-natured “we respect your skills and booing you is a way of saying we know that you are good at beating us, which we do not want to happen” but that’s quite an assumption to make for thousands of individual people at the same time, and even if that doesn’t occur it is certainly not a majority of the time.
I guess booing is just fun for a lot of fans and they can’t resist. I try to only boo when there is very good reason to.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like when Aaron Miles enters a game.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 7, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had a nice conversation with a Rockies Fan

At the Stand for Stan game. He was joking to his friends about the fact that someone let Aaron Miles play, and I mentioned to him that Aaron Miles has more worth as a pitcher than a position player….we both laughed and he bought me a beer.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 7, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, instead of booing that calls for some German term

Probably comes from Heidegger or Nietzsche.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

What have you heard about Immanuel Kant?

Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students

by TomCat009 on Oct 7, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard he was a real pissant

who was very rarely stable.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 8, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

no way

that mob of fans dressed as empty seats has a mean side

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like everyone else has said

I wouldn’t call the Astros a “friendly” rival. Perhaps it’s best to classify it as “non-caveman” behavior towards one another.

I find it’s best not to look at RR, because you’re more than likely to become upset by the total lack of human decency that is found there in regards to most members.

However, I have looked there a few times to see a couple of sensible people who prefer to talk baseball instead of having “my dick is bigger than yours” fights.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 7, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

brandon backe

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

BTW CarpIsMyManCrush...

my dick is bigger than yours…bring it.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

They haven't mattered in 15 years.

They have a pretty good club and could compete for several years. Until they put together a few winning campaigns, I’ll consider them a decent team that got lucky one year.

If they want to be a rival, they’ll need to get into the pennant race more than once every couple of decades.

Also, I’m my own grandpa.

"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.

by The Continental on Oct 7, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

why can't you believe that?

these are the same people that defend johnny cueto
i personally had no beef with RR until I heard some of the arguments in support of the ninja bullshit. makes me question the general amount of sound reasoning on your blog
as an outsider you can’t have a civil discussion on RR – very quickly someone’s always calling for a banhammer and insulting you for the mere reason you affiliate with another team

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

^on their blog

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

so they wouldn't take kindly to being eel bombed?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 7, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

would we have to explain it to them?

we really should thank the snake pit for that one… or the sympathizers in the snake pit.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

we should ask battlemoses politely

to test the grounds before we do it

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

i said

I could believe they defended hin

by TheWagonMakerCometh on Oct 7, 2010 11:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Didn't someone post the pitch chart over there?

This would indicate that Cabrera is completely wrong.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

you're assuming one r in rr stands for rational

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

My bad.

I forgot they dislike evidence which shatters their version of reality.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

And after perusing their morning thread...

I’m gonna admonish myself.

The current subthread over there is moving against Cabrera’s whining.

Pitch(fx) tells a different story
though what Cabrera said corroborates what I saw on TV. Halladay got some help, but he didn’t really need it. Anything that doesn’t own up to the fact that they didn’t get good wood on the ball all night is deflecting.
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Oct 7, 2010 9:37 AM CDT

I’m not gonna go into their gamethread to see what they said last night. I’ve already showered today.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

like the pitch chart from last night?

or this chart showing that St. Louis has a distinct advantage in educated inhabitants over Cincinnati, yet somehow we’re the stupid hicks?

by mattyp on Oct 7, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heh.

Yeah, Cincinnati claiming St. Louis is a hicktown is really ironic. Must be the fact they share a timezone with NYC that makes them feel superior.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

the term is morans!

iiiiiimmmbeciles

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

I thoroughly loved the “go to a tractor-pull” and “oh yeah well at least we’re playing baseball” comments.

I’m actually waiting for them to win one game against the Phillies so they can say
“Oh yeah, well we got further than you did last year,” so someone can remind them when we went further in 06, 05, 04….etc.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 7, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

as someone who currently lives in texas

i don’t think it’s that inaccurate to say that non-st louis and non-kc missouri is pretty redneck

let’s not forget derbies. that’s a strictly midwest, if not strictly missouri phenomenon

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

derbies?

as in demolition derbies?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 7, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess

in my former neck of the woods, it’s just called a derby. driving cars into other cars and such

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya....that's definately not just a midwest thing.....

They are all over up here.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 7, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

steers n qu. . .

nevermind

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 7, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure that they have tractor pulls in Ohio as well.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes. yes they do

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're not an inbred hick?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say to your question about rivalry

that success does breed some animosity. We’re the most successful club in the NLC for the last decade, by some distance, and I’d imagine that every club in the division probably views us as their number one rivals, and perhaps most hated opponents. Us or the Cubs, at least.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 7, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

why the fuck does anyone care about what those assholes think about us?

or any other assholes for that matter? i really couldn’t give a flying fuck what other fans think about me. especially fans of a team who’s been dog shit for the better part of 20years.

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

this...

is intense. but i dig it.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

CAN YOU DIG IT? WE CAN DIG IT! CAN Y'ALL DIG IT? WE CAN DIG IT! CAN YOU DIG IT? WE CAN DIG IT! CAN Y'ALL DIG IT? WE CAN DIG IT!

W H double O M P as I flow

To the fly shit from the school of old

Hardcore keep the folk lore wreck

Three to the two and one mic check

Mad skill flow ill on the mesh of steel

That’s the grill of the microphone I just killed

Party people it’s your party Tag Team is through

Whoomp there it is I thought you knew

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I only know how to kick it.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

gdm, you're pretty fly for an old guy

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

and all the girlies say he's pretty fly,,,, for a white guy

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goold going there
One interesting route the Cardinals could take is a family reunion for Yadier Molina. Older brother Bengie Molina, who had three hits while catching Lee for Texas on Wednesday, is a free agent, and Jose Molina has a $1.2-million option with Toronto.

linki

MWAHAHAHAHA. MWAHAHAHAHA. MWAAAcoughhackgaackseesig

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

David Eckstein? really?

oh boy, Goold.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh god

the grit… the grit… it’s endless…

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

you know it'll be two-for-one

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since they're both half a person, does that only count for one roster spot?

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Oct 7, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

CBA requires teams to round up in all such cases.

It’s Donald Fehr’s fault.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It won't keep Miles off the roster.

All it will do is guarantee we field a Miles-Eck middle infield combo at some point.

I’ll let you pick which fields which position, ‘case I promise you whatever the setup, it won’t be pretty.

by dronemc on Oct 7, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

....

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

I wouldn’t mind Eck at 2nd, it’s not ideal, but it doesn’t make me want to kick a bunch of puppies.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 7, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no universe. . .

in which Eck would be a better bet at 2B than Skippy. Well, I suppose a universe in which gravity is exponentially increased so that no ball hit ever leaves the ground or something, but short of that, no.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Oct 7, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

horrible thing is...

With the way games went this season, we’d probaly win that game with Eck and Miles up the middle… shoot – Soup could pitch, and Feliz could play third… puke – we’d probably crush em… Oh the humanity!!!

"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.

by pattimagee on Oct 7, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've been calling for another molina for half the season now

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bengie's clutch but

there’ve been too many reports of him being way too alpha dog. to the point where it’s a clubhouse problem. in a clubhouse where little brother is THE alpha dog, I’m not sure that’s going to work. Mama might cry before the season’s out….

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's a grownup

i’m sure he responds to reason
you can’t expect to go to a new club and automatically be the alpha
especially with a carp, an albert and another molina in the house
he’ll get it right

btw, i doubt mama molina will cry. i think she’s more likely to pack a big iron skillet and fly over to straighten the boys up if need be

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

while crying

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

but just for appearances

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

CLAAAANNGGGGG

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

MOOOOLLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSS!

ahem…. sorry, needed to get that out of my system.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

i've got bad news

they never get out of your system

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

you're right...

If another Molina is on this team, I will probably enjoy 2011, no matter what.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

give those two a camera too

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

This!

A spanish version of Boog and Bombs

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 7, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

if the team as a whole doesn't improve on the basepaths

you’ll be enjoying ’em GIDPs

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm guessing a record will be set.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like herpes?

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Oct 7, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cue The Moo Cow...

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Moooo - linas!

;=8)

Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 7, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad you picked up what I was laying down

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

U can Cownt on me...

;=8)

Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 7, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jose would be fine as a backup, though

From what little of him I’ve seen I’d say he’s arguably as good as his little bro behind the plate. Can’t hit for shit, but then which backup catcher can?

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 7, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vomits

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 7, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Towel?

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 7, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

just put a little girl in front of him

oh wait, we’re not in Philly

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad Goold, Bad!

I would rather leave Brendan at SS and look agressively for a 2B. Uribe or Hudson would be a nice fit there if an appropriate deal can be made. Or via the trade if it is one that doesn’t hurt our farm any further.

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 7, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bengie

ain’t signing to be a back-up anywhere, I suspect. Jose, OTOH, might, but why would you?

by SouthsideCardsFan on Oct 7, 2010 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

consolidate babysitting, of course

Jose’s got two rings. he’s got nothing to prove.

I agree about Bengie.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

We need to sign Bengie AND Jose.

Then, I can rework the lyrics of the Boss’ “The Marlenas” into “Three Molinas.”

This needs to happen.

by dronemc on Oct 7, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zito snub?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

I still am kinda sad Brian Barton basically went nowhere in the majors.

In 179 PAs he was worth 1 WAR. UZR really liked his fielding. He seems like a right-handed Jon Jay to me. All of this was small sample size of course, and I also seem to remember that his being a rule 5 draft guy hurt the club’s flexibility with him (right?). But he really looked like a potential cheap, useful player. Those don’t grow on trees.
Letting him go for 16 utterly forgetting innings of Blaine Boyer was sad.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Cardinaut's in the CAA

Newark.
poor Cardinaut. I suspect he ran afoul of the La Russa system.

the only news hit for Enunciate is this post.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I liked what I saw of Barton as well

seemed to have a reasonable approach at the plate and just enough pop that pitchers couldn’t just throw fastballs down the middle. He’s probably a pretty fungible type of player but dumping him for Boyer, and then cutting bait on Boyer so quickly was weird. Just one of the many baffling decisions the club’s made in the last couple of years – probably amounts to very little either way, but it’s an indication of a muddled mindset in the FO IMO.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 7, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

He also had a great walkup song...

Change gonna come…

"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.

by pattimagee on Oct 7, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was actually one of the few things I didn't like about him

It’s a fine enough song and all but I felt like it didn’t really fit as a baseball walk-up song.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what's a fair return for Rasmus?

Obviously, Heyward and Upton are off limits… I wonder if we could pry away Hanson or Ian Kennedy.

Fire La Russa!

by guayzimi on Oct 7, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Not sure.....

But I hope the Cardinals at least listen. If somebody is willing to overpay, and we can fix problems at 2-3 other positions, WHILE getting back at least one cost controlled player, I think we have to at least listen.

Not saying I’m for or against moving him, just that he is not off limits.

by Stanley1 on Oct 7, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

They have to move him...

mgmt. chose the wrong side in The Great Feud of 2010 and now the team is screwed. Best option: reprise the 2010 Giants. Hope someone other than Pujols and Holliday can bring a league average bat and roll out of 15 game streaks of allowing 3 runs or less.

Fire La Russa!

by guayzimi on Oct 7, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd prefer they keep Rasmus,

but sure, if the right package comes along, you pull the trigger.

The questions, however are 1) what is “the right package,” and 2) do we trust Mozielak to actually be able to acquire said package? As we all know, Colby is IMMENSELY valuable owing to his offensive upside and controlled cost at a premium defensive position. I’m not sure other clubs would be willing to part with what should be fair value for him, and I’m not sure I’d want Mo to take 75 cents on the dollar just to “apppease” TLR, if such a thing is even required.

by dronemc on Oct 7, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I really don't see why it should be required

I think even Tony can get past some elbow-rubbing with a young player, and Colby doesn’t seem to be holding some kind of grudge. I don’t expect him to be traded at all.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

fwiw...

Cecil, Hanson and Kennedy have an extra year of cost-controlled-ness over Rasmus…

Fire La Russa!

by guayzimi on Oct 7, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Help me out...

…as I’m not as well versed on the other teams farm systems/young players as I should be.

Cecil, Hanson and Kennedy are…..?

by dronemc on Oct 7, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

hanson at least is not a farm hand

he’s one of my pet non-cardinals and he’s a Pretty Good Pitcher named tommy hanson

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hanson = Taylor Hanson

of “Mmmbop” fame. He has developed into a hell of a ballplayer…right?

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

She was HOT!!

Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students

by TomCat009 on Oct 7, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Brett Cecil - 2007 1st rounder, 23 y.o., 4 fip in 200 innings in the AL East

Tommy Hanson – 2005 draftee, 23 y.o, 3.3 fip two years running with Atlanta
Ian Kennedy – 2006 1st rounder, 25 y.o., 4.3 fip in a breakout year with Arizona

These three teams were said to be hot on Rasmus, so I just mentioned players that seemed interesting and available. I don’t think the Cards would take a pack of minor leaguers as that would sink the 2011 campaign.

Fire La Russa!

by guayzimi on Oct 7, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trade with ATL

1) Rasmus and Skip for Kimbrel, Prado, and another cost-controlled prospect.
2) Pick up Ankiel when Atlanta declines his $6M option and buys it out for $.5M instead
3) …..
4) Profit!

Though #1 might be a stretch… =)

by avs18fan on Oct 7, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Given that Ankiel was reportedly. . .

one of the main clubhouse problems with which Rasmus had to deal last year, I suspect that #2 will probably not happen.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Oct 7, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it only has a chance of happening

If they trade Rasmus. If they don’t, then no, they won’t pick him up.

Honestly, as much as I’d love to have Kimbrel or Prado, I rather have Rasmus producing for us for years to come. I doubt any of it happens. Just having fun.

by avs18fan on Oct 7, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we'd need something sizeable alongside Kennedy

a middling pitcher with only a couple of cost-controlled years likely isn’t getting it done and, in any case, the D’Backs seem to be in semi-rebuild mode so it’d have to be something from the major league team. Stephen Drew, perhaps? Still, an average SP and an average SS doesn’t seem a fantastic return for a guy with star potential, but I guess I’d consider that deal.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 7, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh...

Drew only has two years left and he’s going year-to-year with Boras. I don’t see much value there. Better would be Mark Reynolds, who the D-Backs apparently want to unload. That would be a decent deal for the Cards – we could pass on Westbrook, then use the Penny-Westy money to relieve the M’s of Chone Figgins.

Our rotation would be Carp/Waino/Garcia/Kennedy/Lohse + FA signing and the lineup would be Figgins-Jay-Pujols-Holliday-Reynolds-Craig-Molina-Ryan, with a bench of Schumaker, Freese, Greene, and an outfielder.

That’s a team I could be excited about.

Fire La Russa!

by guayzimi on Oct 7, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

No thanks on Reynolds. . .

I love the guy and his TTO ilk, but he is not a good fit for the Cards. He’s a minus defensively at 3B, and while his power isn’t exactly a mirage, he’s a much better hitter in the Snakepit (249/345/507) than he is away from it (235/323/461). High K guys tend to age poorly, too. Adam Dunn is an exception rather than the rule.

And what is your defensive alignment in the OF with that crew? Figgins/Jay/Craig? Ugh.

Pass.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Oct 7, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

in bed

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Oct 7, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Reynolds is like 26, I doubt he'll start to age rapidly while he's still under team control

Is there any objective reason to pass on a guy like Reynolds besides the fact that you don’t like him? His home/road split is very typical (and I would think that argument has been shown to be crap now with Holliday).

by vivaelpujols on Oct 7, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

and his power might be enough

to convince Tony to hit Holliday 2nd.

OTOH, his power means he’ll be overpaid in arbitration…

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Oct 7, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at what they do to Dunn

Howard and Dunn have similar production but Howard was given a huge arbi and Dunn no where close

Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students

by TomCat009 on Oct 7, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

dunn never went to arbitration

he always agreed to terms, meaning he probably left money on the table.

Howard’s first arb was also 3 years after Dunn’s first settlement, even though they are the same age, so he had a big inflation benefit (and it’s certainly not clear that he should have won his arb case).

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Oct 7, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am talking about how a guy with a similar skillset has

gotten diddly on the open market

Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students

by TomCat009 on Oct 7, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

also, Howard is better than Dunn

both offensively and defensively.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Oct 7, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree Howard has one Offensive season that jumps out

with a 167 OPS+ beyond that he has two 140 OPS+ seasons, one 130 OPS+ season and two 120 OPS+ seasons.
Dunn has three 140+ seasons five 130+ seasons two 120+ seasons and two 114+ seasons. As far as Defense goes who knows if Dunnkey can become a decent 1B he has only been there for a year and a half and Howard is no APu around first.

Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students

by TomCat009 on Oct 7, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I demand a recount ;)

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Oct 8, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just saying that Dunn has a higher career OBP

despite hitting 20 points lower on BA and while he doesn’t have the slugging numbers he hasn’t played in CBP his whole career.

Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students

by TomCat009 on Oct 8, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reading comprehension is important

I like him, nay, indeed, my post said that I love him (to be clear, as a baseball player, in a very hetero way). My concerns, that I believe were very clearly stated in my post, are twofold:

1) By the metrics, he is a poor defensive 3B; I believe that makes him a poor fit for the Birds.

2) Low BA, High K sluggers generally have short careers as plus-offensive players. Adam Dunn is the exception. For every Adam Dunn, there are a dozen Dean Palmers. Ha, I typed Dean Palmer before I even looked at Reynolds B-R page. He has a pretty scary set of comparables, according to similarity scores:

Similar Batters
Morgan Ensberg (935)
Jose Bautista (926)
Edwin Encarnacion (924)
Leo Gomez (916)
Russ Davis (916)
Jonny Gomes (910)
Chris Young (910)
Carlos Quentin (910)
Marcus Thames (908)
Willie Greene (906)

Similar Batters through 26
Mike Schmidt (947) *
Dean Palmer (946)
Ron Gant (926)
Matt Williams (926)
Bill Melton (923)
Pat Burrell (916)
Cory Snyder (915)
Edwin Encarnacion (912)
Chris Young (910)
Pete Incaviglia (908)

Maybe he’s got a 5% chance of being Mike Schmidt, but the safer bet is that he’ll be Willie Greene or Edwin Encarnacion or Cory Snyder.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Oct 8, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's 26 right not or something

We don’t care how good he’ll be in 10 years. It doesn’t really matter how bad his defense is in isolation, his overall value is high.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 8, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to MLB Trade Rumours....

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

Keven Kouzamanoff looks to be non-tendered. I’d snap him up in one swish of a cow’s tail to back up Tastee, and maybe Pujols as well. Or maybe traded for. He’s yer ’15-20 HR guy" without the best OB%, who annually generates close to 3 WAR, and who shows very good D UZR/150. I say we get him!

:=8)

Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 8, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting...

Fangraphs does inded have him at almost 3 WAR per year… surprising given his lack of on base skills. I guess his D really is pretty good, which I didn’t know.
Interestingly, B-Ref’s WAR likes him a lot less, about 1 WAR per year less actually. The differences between the two can be pretty huge sometimes.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 8, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, in either case he is a definite pickup.

"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy

by hazel on Oct 8, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

kouzmanaut

go for it

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 8, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Halladay has been transcendent in flashes this year

and just damn good the rest of the time.

How can a management team smart enough to trade for Lee and Halladay in back to back seasons be dumb enough to trade Lee for a middling return, or sign a guy with a sub 900 OPS and declining skillset too a 150 million dollar extension?

Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students

by TomCat009 on Oct 7, 2010 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

because Halladay requested the trade.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Amaro's just been somewhat lucky

I think most of the signs point to him being a pretty bad GM. He’s had an amazing core to build with, plenty of money, and hasn’t made too many terrible moves, but overall I think he’s shown a tenuous grasp of player valuation, despite driving a decent bargain in trades.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 7, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

lee wasn't going to accept an extension

H did. IIRC that was the crux of the matter.

There’s no rationale defense of the Howard deal, unless they somehow calculated that having him on the team sold enough jerseys/tickets etc to make the disparity between payroll and WAR irrelevant.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Oct 7, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or if they figured that this was their extended window of opportunity to become a dynasty

and they wouldn’t mind overpaying for Howard in the long run if it kept the team together in the short one.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 7, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

not really

he was already on contract through the end of next year. His big extension doesn’t even start until 2012.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Oct 7, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't know about that part though...

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, as much as I think the move is dumb on paper

It does make some sense when you look at it that way. If they decide they have the ability to overpay in order to keep the band together, I can kinda see why they did it. It’s not like there is another sure-thing NL powerhouse in the next couple of years that will definitely challenge them.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

but who were they bidding against???

what Howard wouldn’t have taken 20 million a year?

Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students

by TomCat009 on Oct 7, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

depends on the script

Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students

by TomCat009 on Oct 8, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

except for the fact that $25 million was probably THE most he was getting paid

and there was a good chance it wasn’t even going to be that much with the market of 1B….

plus its really dumb to overpay on an extension…. especially one that kicks in two years

by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 7, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

but they had Halladay and Lee

so what if lee wouldn’t extend why not keep both then take the picks?

Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students

by TomCat009 on Oct 7, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I wasn't able to actually pay attention to most of the Halladay game

I caught the first three innings or so and thought it would just be a pleasant drubbing of the Reds. Halladay was having a great start, retiring the first nine batters in order. Volquez lifted from the game after the Phillies scored four runs in only a couple innings.
It would have been cool if I were able to actually watch the whole thing instead of catching snippets of the first few innings on tv and radio before I had to do other stuff. But, it was also really cool suddenly seeing these headlines like “Halladay’s no-hitter in playoffs only second in history” and going “Holy Crap did that really happen???”

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

so apparently Boras is talking about Werth getting Holliday pay

Seriously? I mean, I know they were comparable THIS year.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 7, 2010 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Meh, it's Boras.

At this point, I just assume he’s playing a character like Christopher Walken’s from the SNL cowbell skit.

by dronemc on Oct 7, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

MOAR COWBELL!!!

:=8D

Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 7, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

"He has more hair than Matt Holliday, and look what he gets."

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

and holliday was supposed to get teixeira pay

boras is moving in the wrong direction

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

It could be plausible...

except Werth is two years older. That has to mean he’ll get five years max. Plus no one likes that kind of a guy.

Fire La Russa!

by guayzimi on Oct 7, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Werth has been among the best outfielders the last 3 seasons

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

not holliday good, though

plus, he’s older

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's been just as good as Holliday

but yeah, he’s not going to get that long of a contract

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

almost as good

over the last three seasons, holliday has been around .400 wOBA and werth around .385 on average

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Werth wOBA

2007 .385
2008 .382
2009 .382
2010 .397

you guys are right, Holliday is more like a .400 wOBA guy or more

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

if the cardinals become certain that they can't retain pujols

do you go after werth?

best outfield in the world?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm down

he’d probably come at less or at most as much as we paid him this year

maybe this was part of the master plan

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mo is in an office with an unnecessarily

huge chair going MWUAHAHAHA

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 7, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yup

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

fwiw

I was already theorizing this last night.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

And use Jay/Craig as trade bait for a 2B?

The other one becomes backup OF

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 7, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just have this feeling

that if we trade Craig, we are going to watch a very good major league player for the next 7 years or so play for another team.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 7, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

somehow I could see this happening

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

in bed

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Oct 7, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

no

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 9, 2010 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

If possible, I like this.

I loved Studwick. If we can bring him back for somewhat cheap, I would dig it just fine.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

sign luddy and trade jay/craig

for 2nd base or someone to replace McClelland. Cause that would mean we wouldn’t be signing Westbook.

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the idea of trading for a 2B

But why wouldn’t you sign W’book. He would come at eual to or less than the money coming off Penny’s contract and provides a solid 4th guy. McClellan can start if Lohse struggles or anyone goes down for an injury

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 7, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking there wouldn't be enough money after signing Luddy

My preference would be to have both, of course

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think not signing Westy is a mistake.

The guy would be just great for what we need him to do. Luddy’s is going to be fairly expensive for a not young OF with a track record of injury problems.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will be very very surprised if we don't sign Westbrook

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be very surprised if Dave Duncan isn't at his house right now

making sure he makes no sudden moves…

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Westy needs to be signed (if reasonable)

I know we should bring Luddy back only if a miraculous drop in price happens. But I think mostly in terms of emotional-connection with a player, and nickname potential.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

VEB laboratories are working on it

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The formula for that stat

has to include references to historical characters.
As in Jay, Jon
And approximation to other words
As in Freese, David

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 7, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is so RBI

what about gif percentage? the typeability index? the movement on portmanteaus? nickname value has to be generalized across different schemes.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're forgetting wVtCR

That’s “weighted vowel to consonant ratio.”

by dronemc on Oct 7, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

This made me laugh

 in the middle of class…

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 7, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I said include, not limited to.

Also, easy pronuntiation-ability when hammered, bilingual versatility and proneness to change according to present circumstances

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 7, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

that first one

may be the most important factor

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

and alliteration

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 7, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey!

who’re you sayin’ can’t read???

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 7, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

ummmmmm?

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 7, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

There can be multiple stats

NAR (Nicknames Above Replacement)
AINAR (Alcohol-Independent Nicknames Above Replacement)
FNP (Future Nickname Potential)
CN (Combo Nicknames – a team stat, Boog/Bombs are usually near the top)

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

FNP is a little shaky

and who’s going to test AINAR? yikes.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The AA?

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 7, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

so, VEB?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Indeed.

We do need to lay off the Franklins…

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 7, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

we were all on the road to recovery

then they signed Aaron Miles.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

you speak for your self.

I’m not an alcoholic, I’m a hobbyist.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 7, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i call myself a bottle collector

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm part of the "I like beer." club

If there is a problem with my drinking beer, it’s somebody else’s problem.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well it depends mostly on my level of intoxication during games.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think anything can come close to -wick

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colby.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

NAR (Nicknames Above Replacement)

Studwick:
2009-8.7
2010- 9.2
2011 (projected) – 8.6

Colby
2009-6.7
2010 – 8.8
2011 (projected) – 9.1

Though Colby hasn’t quite reached Lud’s level, he projects better next year.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

that reminds me

did we ever get a reading on Westbrook’s DAR?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dunno

nothing will easily top ludriguez

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

too bad it was so late

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of nicknames

The local sports guy here on channel 3 is older than dirt, doesn’t follow baseball much and tries to act like he’s the expert.

The other day he referred to LaRussa as TLR. I roared.

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure Ludwick

is due to decline. He has shown nothing that points out to a decline in his Nickname contribution

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 7, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is true...

Can you imagine if he somehow created a LudWick-Roll video? His NAR would jump to legendary status.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

ludwick is transwickian

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 7, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

not that there's anything wrong with that

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

When I played

I also threw left and batted right.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm the opposite.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something like 3/18 might get it done, i think

for a guy with his injury history. Pretty good low-risk signing if they can agree to something like that.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 7, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Taking him back for $9 million...

should only be a last resort for a team that’s going for it in 2011.

Fire La Russa!

by guayzimi on Oct 7, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking Luddy could be

a little more lenient towards signing with the Cards. I mean, many players in the team saw him as a real clubhouse prescence and friend

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 7, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

He misses us-wick

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to kill the buzz

but this tweet and MLBTR page basically say Ludwick is staying in SD… I has a sad

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 7, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

he likes SD, i'm glad he gets to stay if he feels good there

although i am sad-wick too

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would

he’s one of the only people that could even come anywhere close to replacing him… except, don’t you have to go after an Adrian Gonzalez type if Albert is not retainable?

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

so does Strauss just hate Rasmus?

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Strauss hates anyone

That doesn’t like unicorns, and shit rainbows like he does

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 7, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's just trying to stir up controversy

I bet Larussa hates the dude

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

his credentials need to be pulled

indefinitely

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

exile Strauss! send him to Australia!

or better yet, Alaska!

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I vote for him to be on the next shuttle to Pluto.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

not a planet

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

doesn't matter

it’s still very far away.

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Works even better then.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe

but it’s not on the 8-planet roster

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't be so sure

If Tony comes back he’ll probably make sure we keep it, and he’ll keep putting Pluto in at leadoff planet to our horror.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Strauss just likes stirring up shit.

I think he knows that this an area where he can get a little friction. The guy just breathes controversy. “let’s see what we can do to get the sheep unsettled and increase my readership.” He needs to be kicked in the nuts.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

yin-yang

light side of The Force- Dark side of The Force. Sherlock Holmes-Professor Moriarty.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Hummel.

At least he doesn’t do the sensationalism crap that Strauss lives off of.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Commish has lost his fastball, he needs to retire

Goold has already taken over as the best writer at the PD anyway. i dont know what the Commish brings to the table anymore. i haven’t read an interesting article from him since probably 04-05

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'd rather read Strauss?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

hellz naw, i see no point for either one of them to be working for the PD

Goold & Bernie are all they need

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm game

Hell, I’ll dress up in an orange wig and sunglasses and do it for free.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 7, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should pass the hat just in case.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's like Howard Stern, except he is more lame

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

you'd think if he is a fan of the Cardinals he would just STFU

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt he even likes the Lou, let alone the Crads.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

he doesn't even like baseball

who is this guy

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah let's get him!

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Geraldo Rivera of Cardinals Nation.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's the Adam Dunn of baseball journalism

He’s a lock for 40 BS stories every single year.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

And, he hates America.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

we should start a joe strauss hall of shame fanpost

and keep updating it
but don’t want to give that asshat more publicity than he already has (don’t even know why)

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I need a good dose of unicorn

SBDLTTRT

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Star 24 year old CFer being paid the league minimum is desired by other teams

That’s some heavy hitting reporting. It’s almost like teams want good players!

For the teams that wouldn’t be interested, I got the Rangers…..and that’s it. I thought maybe TB, but Upton has had his own spats.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 7, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

O M G

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seattle...Colby hits way to well for that team.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 7, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Dang, did coach just give me the take sign on 0-2?"

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Oct 7, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bernie and his Karate man....

I like Bernie, I really do…but when he goes on his rants, it can sometimes be a bit obnoxious….not Kevin Slaten obnoxious, but obnoxious never the less

by hockeyno93 on Oct 7, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Kevin Slaten is a whole other class of obnoxious

Things that are really really obnoxious should be referred to as “Slaten-esque”.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i really can't believe that dude has a job

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Over at RR

They were actually being somewhat level headed about what happened last and Cabrerra’s comments. Color me surprised.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

the proof is in the p f/x

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

As I have learned

you can’t fight the numbers.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

So

What’s the general consensus regarding TLR and a possible return? Like it, hate it, or god-forbid, love it?

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 7, 2010 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

For me, it's "Accepted it as an unpleasant truth."

For all his quirks, crankiness and incomprehensible attachment to older, lesser, potentially useless players, TLR has been one of the best managers in baseball. His performance last season was questionable, but I think he still has the potential to be a net positive if he’s able to maintain a working relationship with Colby.

From everything I’ve read, the veterans seem to still be on board with Tony’s philosophy so the FO wasn’t going to cashier him.

by dronemc on Oct 7, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I've gone from being on the fence about TLR

to thinking he’s one of the weaker managers in the league these days. I don’t think managers have a great impact on the game, FWIW, so it’s probably not going to cost us too many games no matter who’s in the skipper’s chair, but I think I’d rather try someone else.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 7, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

+1

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 7, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a TV cop.

LaRussa, get back in here!!! Sit your ass down, I’m not ready to let you quit yet! Now you and me might hate each other’s guts… I might not like your methods or your attitude… I might not like having to explain your reckless double switches, your asinine bullpen shenanigans, and your harebrained lineup decisions to the press… but damn it, you’re the best manager I’ve got! Now put that uniform back on before I bury my foot straight up your ass, and go find that kidnapped little girl win this city a championship!!!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He needs a good dose of this.

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Later character development eventually will reveal

that his alcohol problems are his way of coping with the loss of his former assistant coach at the hands of the Mascarpone gang!
He used to be as straight-laced as they come, always going by the book… but when Bobby was gunned down he decided that he had to bend the rules in order for justice to truly be served… or sometimes right new ones!
… in blood!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 8, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

unfortunately, he will probably be back heh

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is not helping my day out.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

tlr, unfortunately in some ways, will be back.

there are too many unknowns if tony doesn’t come back. what would happen with albert? who’s our next skipper?

i’m sick of all his antics like the rest of us, but he’s been very successful despite it. i’m starting to get a little weary of him and the clubhouse, because it sounds like things implode if they get bad – and it’s happened many times before (rolen, edmonds, colby, etc.)

by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 7, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we formally offered him the job

Per Leach a couple days back. Hang on….here it is: link.

I suspect he won’t turn it down.

by lightbulb on Oct 7, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am still on the fence on TLR

But since he is a known quantity, I think I would like to see him back. This year was awful, and criticism of him was warranted. Hell, he even turned my dad (a strong “managers don’t mean anything in baseball”-type of dude) against him. That being said, I think he took more criticism than he should have, AND who would replace him?

And it seems like the players are loyal to him. I know, I’ve said this before, and it is pretty much impossible to get a true gauge on this team’s players’ thoughts about him. If the players accept his quirks, and have faith in him…well, then that’s (just a bit) more important than what I think. Plus, Albert seems to love him, and if TLR says “This is my last run, one more season, this is it…” I can see our team going on a nice little “let’s send him out in style” run.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll bet plenty of players would be thrilled by a new manager, but they aren't going to say

that until TLR leaves, which might be years from now, but almost definitely isn’t going to be this offseason

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 7, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

so when does Amaury Marti finally get in the conversation?

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

he was in the conversation but our time-sense is not attuned to it

I dunno, Luhnow seemed high on him. he said he wasn’t sure why he didn’t get a shot.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard he was going back to other dimension

It’s just too easy for him here. He’s looking for a challenge.

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm seeing an episode of Fringe here.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Galaxians were threatening his home world.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

HFS. Utley has been worth 7.7 WAR, 8.1 WAR, and 7.7 WAR from 07-09

5.1 this year, which was cut short b/c of the injury. is it safe to say he is THE most underrated player in baseball?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 7, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

this was albert's worst WAR since 2002. second worst of his career, which has still never been below 5.7

unbelievable.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 7, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hence the sig

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert is so ridiculous.

This definitely seemed like a down year for him. He was still one of the best 4-5 players in the ENTIRE LEAGUE… In-goddamn-credible.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fangraphs says he was worth over 7 WAR

And the league and batted ball adjustments say he was pretty unlucky this year. The man is simple amazing at baseball. It’s like he needed a challenge to give him even more drive for next year.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

his off year could be chalked up to better pitching league-wide

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed!

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what you're saying is.............

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whether or not it's the Cardinals, the dude deserves to be paid.

I just hope he stays a Cardinal for his career, and at a hefty discount at that.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

who?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never heard of 'im

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Oct 7, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cud we Play Miles at first?

;=8)

Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 7, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably not

but it’s not unreasonable to say he might be the best, and is certainly one of the most underrated. Beltre’s had a pretty raw deal in the mainstream press for a while, considering he consistently puts up 4+ WAR years most of his career and yet has somehow been considered a disappointment until this year.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 7, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

2004 really ruined peoples' perception of him I think.

Spending all that time in Seattle was clearly not good for his hitting.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fixed

Spending all that time in Seattle was clearly not good for his hitting reproductive skills.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Oct 7, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 7, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

testicle smash

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 7, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shudder

I forgot about that.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beltre had a "groin" injury

where the ball went straight where the sun don’t shine as he was fielding it. Lost 6-8 weeks on the injury. Ohh the pain….

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Oct 8, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Albert is about the only player I'd rather have on my team than Utley

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

barring SPs of course

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I'd say Hanley

and possibly Halladay would be in the conversation too. I always think of Hanley, Albert and Utley as the three best in baseball (for the last 2-3 years anyhow) and I’d say, fanboyism aside, they’re probably close enough to be almost interchangeable.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 7, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

if by sick you mean stoned, then yeah

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think a team with Albert, Hanley, and Chase would be a far bigger deal than the Miami Heat trio

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

screw that

Halladay
Carpenter
Lee

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I said BARRING starting pitchers

you people

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

ain't no people here!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

robots!

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I have a heart.

You can’t say I’m not people, too.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just playin

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like the way your mind works

all they need is longoria at third and yadi behind the plate and damn the outfielders.

by adiueordie on Oct 7, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd prefer Zim over Longoria, but yeah

that would be INSANE

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

good point

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

too much hair for this team

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pujols, Utley, Tulowitzki, Zimmerman

Infield of dreams. Offense and defense. That would truly be a sight to behold.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

if that team didn't go to the world series, that would mean they would have horrible pitching

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

truly awful pitching

and the worst outlfielders. that team should WIN the world series without much difficulty

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

You could surround those 4 with replacement players

and the team would still be close to .500. Impressive.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 8, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

NL FTW

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've always said

that Felix is quite underrated

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 7, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

MVC

Most Valuable Cuckold

Fire La Russa!

by guayzimi on Oct 7, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shin Soo Choo is undeniably the most underrated player in baseball

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 7, 2010 2:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I might have to agree with you after this season.

I think a lot of people finally understand how good Utley is. Choo is doing some amazing things, and for such a bad team.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder why people haven't talked more about how horrible a time he's had

He was so damn good. It’s like he retired or something. He did get some chatter at the beginning of the year as a bounce back candidate. I think I even drafted him for my fantasy team. Then poof.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

he must have Clevelanditis

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's in Cleveland.

Look at how much press Choo gets.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

What they really need

is for a greedy owner-ess to assemble a rag tag group of has-beens and misfits to justify selling the team after they flounder in last place. See, she’d go too far and inspire them to put something magical together just to spite her.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

someone should make a movie about this

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

have you heard of the alternate ending?

where she admits it was all to motivate the team and such… it would make NO sense with the rest of the movie.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

For realz?

Like, that was an actual possible ending for the movie?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

So i've heard...

I haven’t seen it, but I think it has been released as some sort of DVD extra or something…

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hilarious

I hope to see that some day

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if evaporated

is the right term to describe micro fracture surgery:

It was the worst-case scenario for the Indians, who knew they were going to lose their center fielder for at least six-to-eight weeks following knee surgery on Friday. Grady Sizemore, though, required a microfracture procedure on his left knee, ending his season and possibly sidelining him to begin spring training 2011.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 7, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, but I don't even remember him playing at all this year.

Seemed like there was no buzz at all about him coming back from last year.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

He had about 100 PA's

before they realized his knee was fucked.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 7, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

CGirly has been inconsolable ever since

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

the reds have churned out quality people over the years...

i mean, they gave us pete rose and joe morgan. should we be surprised that they’re blaming umps for their troubles?

by adiueordie on Oct 7, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

they think their team is one of destiny

of course they will blame the umps.

which is ridiculous, considering they were no hit and needed 4 runs just to tie the other team. babies.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a major component of Dustyball. The Blame Game.

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

it’s not a question of if they will lose in the 1st round or not… it’s if they will be able to win just one game in the series.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

NL Central: 1 playoff game win since 2006

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Oct 7, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought there were zero?

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Milwaukee won a game in 2008

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah

I wasn’t counting wild card heh

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it is the Comedt Central after all.

Frankly I doubt we’d have fared any better than the Reds.

by RollBirdsRoll on Oct 7, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

are record against the other play off teams begs to differ

however; anyone can get swept in a out of a 5 game series

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 7, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

True that.

Don’t like the 5 gamers myself…I don’t know if anyone could’ve solved Doc last night. He was dealing.

by RollBirdsRoll on Oct 7, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

well.

If they couldn’t solve wainwright it would have been up to the bullpen. Though Halladay looked like he could have pitched 11 innings that night.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 7, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah

it was the ump really
doc got all the calls

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

And how many more games have we played in the last ten years than they have?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rocco Baldelli out; Willie Aybar in.

injury replacement for Rays is a go.

that’s probably legit. poor Rocco.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

can we petition rotor world to use the phrase

“Joe Strauss says” in lieu of “Joe Strauss Reports”?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 7, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

'insinuates'

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Oct 7, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

"pulls out of his ass"

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

or pulls out of ass.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 7, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ass of out pulls

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

here the ST live streams

if anyone is interested link

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

tbs is talking about halladay's no-no

and ruiz making halladay shake him off on purpose to mess with the hitter even though he wasn’t putting down any signs
i didn’t even notice that last night – that’s pretty cool

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Ruiz might be the best catcher in baseball for 2010

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

is that counting the postseason or regular season only?

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

162/163rds regular season

or something like that

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

.366 wOBA and good defense at catcher is quite nice

I meant to say in the NL though, obviously Mauer is better.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

when do the giants start today?

any other games?

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

9:30 et

yanks at 6 eastern

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

thnx

work comp is pretty slow

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you could make a good case for him to be rookie of the year

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

your mom

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 9, 2010 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

nothing earth shattering there

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 7, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

evan maclane...

/facepalm

congrats to doc, and hopefully philly continues to dominate cincy in the series.

by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 7, 2010 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

they've been stockpiling old Cardinals

REVENGE!!!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's Misty May's husband!

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I find athlete couples cool

Especially because it gets boring seeing all these athletes with models and actresses.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Misty May is hardly chopped liver. . .

on the actress / model / athlete continuum.

Just sayin’

by SouthsideCardsFan on Oct 7, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of my favorite sports figures.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see what you did there.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big Brother....is that you?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Won't argue with you there.

Agassi and Graf is another interesting couple, especially because Andre used to be the kind of guy who dated models and actresses. Apparently she really helped him come back after he bottomed out.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another one is Laird Hamilton and Gabby Reece.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Misty Mundae!!!!

:=8D

Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 8, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

tex leads 1-0 over tb

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

James Shields with a new twist on the Detroit maneuver.

Bad throw on a pickoff leads to a run.

1-0 Texas, top 3rd.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

a detrioter

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 7, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tiger'd

No this has nothing to do with Sagat from SF2

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Oct 7, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aw...


YOGA FLAME

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chad Qualls

does NOT come through.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Top 5

Rangers up 5-0 after a 3 run shot by young This was after an appeal to first was denied on a 2-2 count.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Aha. Did he go?

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

umm...it sure looked like it.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah, TB got screwed big time

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crowd is chanting "Replay!"

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

can you blame them

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope. but I can see how the 1B ump saw it too.

Young didn’t really break that much.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

like hell he didn't

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just backed up and watched it again. twice

It wasn’t that much.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bat didn't go but the wrists broke a bit.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

and what's the offical rule on that?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 7, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

ump's call

did the batter look like he intended to hit

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

what she said.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

alright

so it’s completely up to what the umpire thinks. How is replay going to reverse that?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 7, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

take a better look, mull it over

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't most of what umpiring is, what the ump thinks?

If it weren’t then the umps wouldn’t ever get a ball-strike call wrong.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

well there is no rule defining what a check swing is

so it doesn’t matter if the bat crosses the plate, of the the player wrist breaks. It’s just if the umpire thinks he swung.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 7, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

you got me there.

But it’s things like that that will get Joe Sportsfan to demanding replay. They may have to come up with a solid definition then.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Robot umpires?

anyone?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Won't help this situation.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tell that to AZ

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

but it will give az something productive to do

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a hard enough time with english.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

And TB is out of the inning. 6-0

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

All 17 of them?

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Oct 7, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oddly enough, it's the post season and people are showing up.

Probably Rangers fans.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Red Sox fans with nothing better to do

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Oct 7, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well, that is the retirement capital of the country.

And I’d want the hell out of New England in the winter.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Michael Young 3-R HR

5-0 Texas, top 5.

And anyone know why Maddon got tossed?

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

yep

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

argued

as he went to visit the mound with his team

wow i just turned this on and get to see the madness…..i havent even read up on the pena stuff yet last game

i cant believe an umpire wouldnt even signal though….thats pretty rare in itself

by guillermozeliak on Oct 7, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

am i the only one who remembers the umpiring being really awful last postseason?

seems like the trend is continuing. last nights “trap” call too.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 7, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

no, last postseason's umpiring was absolutely abysmal

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

that trap call was REALLY bad. Not even close.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

throw me a link please

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

here

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?tcid=mm_mlb_vid

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 7, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

watching it live, it was tough to call. but replay clearly shows a catch

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 7, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

ooh, that one

i haven’t been able to catch up yet
thanks

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

from my comfy couch, with an HD TV

it looked pretty obvious…

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't know how anyone could forget the blow far/foul call in the bronx last year

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

the mauer non-double right?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 7, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

or the ludwick non double

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 7, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya, it's weird how video of that just vanished

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

And they missed a balk call against Rivera last night too.

He never came set on the last pitch of the 8th inning.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

gob it will be depressing to see Tampa out after the first round

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 7, 2010 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

this

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least if there's one team that can come back from a 2-0 deficit it's the rays

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think

they should have best of 7 series all around

by guillermozeliak on Oct 7, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

absolutely

it’s the only way to be fair, 5 game postseason series is a travesty, unless every series is 5 games

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

no way

they’d have to cut games out of the season or start in mid March to finish the playoffs by Halloween

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or...go back to playing doubleheaders.

/crazytalk

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn that would be nice.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

we could really use two molinas then

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

We'd need all three...

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

wasnt it the union who get doubleheaders off the schedule?

i highly doubt they’ll want them back on unless the owners give up something big to the players

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like a union move.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's true.

But who pushed for it? Was it more ownership, the union, or MLB FO? The clubs get a shit-ton of TV money. The players wouldn’t want to work more than they have to. And MLB wants their cut of the whole pie.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

To hell with them all!

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry,

I worked in union plant when I was much younger and got a good look at how unions work, conversely I know how companies think as well. The whole thing is a sticky wicket. I’ll just say it was one more way that they all converged to fuck up a beautiful part of the game. Isn’t it Ernie Banks that Shannon quotes as saying, “It’s a beautiful day, not a cloud in the sky. Let’s play two.”?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya but you should always be careful when quoting a north side loser

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was an appropriate usage though.

I promise, I didn’t do it lightly.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ernie Banks was pretty bad ass

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was a victim of the Cubs being contemptible

not a cause.

StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.

by StanTheManFan on Oct 7, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very true.

But I’m still cautious with anything to do with the Cubs.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt.

I have no idea which side pushed to stop them. As you pointed out, all three sides have reasons for it.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, poor babies

money shouldn’t dictate everything (unfortunately it does)

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm all for the 160 game season

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

doubleheader ws!

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

so u think mlb playoffs are fair?

i think they need tweaking…of all the professional sports mlb plays the most games…with the least amount of playoffs

then u can have 3 man rotations…its a different game

lots more luck involved in this system versus the nfl/nba determining a champ imo

by guillermozeliak on Oct 7, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think there's a lot more luck involved in the NFL

few blown calls or few mistakes the game is over and you go home. No matter what happens. In MLB even if you get No hit the first game you can still comeback.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 7, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

other than the stupid all star game deciding home field advantage yes i think they're fair

there used to be only 4 teams playing in October, now that wasn’t fair.

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

re: luddy

even if he is non-tendered, it doesn’t mean he won’t sign with san diego which he claims to love

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

has anyone in the history of world ever NOT loved san diego

other than nazis and commies, of course.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 7, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 7, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

San Diego is nothing but a whale's vagina.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 7, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mom joke, etc. etc. etc.

I’m so tired ;_;

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 7, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like they're gonna offer him arb.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 7, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hope he goes somewhere & get paid

dude is already on the wrong side of 30 & with his injury history i doubt he wants to accept the 1 year guaranteed arb & chance another freak injury or a minor one like his calf that hurt his numbers last year. sure he may love SD but PetCo sucks, no one can love hitting there.

if i’m him i tell my agent to get me a 3-5yr deal for as much as he can.

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Playing in SD would be hell on an aging OF too.

Petco is the Grand Canyon.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I worry about his knees on the astro turf though

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

tampa & toronto are the only fake felds left right?

as long as he stays out of the AL east he should be fine

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn...that's right.

Wow, the turf has disappeared.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

I thought for sure petco still had turf.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

San Diego has never had turf.

Not at Petco or at Jack Murphy.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

why did you think they had turf in a place where it almost never rains?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna give him an out...

He confused Petco with Safeco.

(Though, Safeco never had turf either.)

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's why.

It would save a ton on watering.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

sort of not an issue anymore.

The problem w/ turf was never the turf. It’s that they threw turf down right on concrete. Modern turf applications usually have some medium between the turf and the concrete.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Oct 7, 2010 10:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

AL games take SOOO LONG!!!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

i want to drop a TWSS here, but i don't think it'd be a good one

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

They just keep going! and grinding!

(see what i did there)

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

gotta grind it out

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

mutant league is slow

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

now imagine if we were in the AL

and had to endure 5 hrs of dan and al every time

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

And had Jeff Suppan pitch a game

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Oct 7, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

death

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

gummy bears

shit tear:
haribo gummy frogs

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

The Rangers bullpen is like Bewitched!

Too many Darrens!

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I kinda miss Darren Oliver

liked that guy

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

is

there a stream for today’s games anywhere?

by adiueordie on Oct 7, 2010 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

http://www.atdhe.net

postseason games on cable is a travesty

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

SMOLTZI sighting!!

come back smoltzi….

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

looks like one more year of Larussa

http://www.prorumors.com/2010/10/rumors/tony-la-russa-only-wants-one-year-deal-to-manage

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

i was just wondering how tlr would do

if he managed the yankees

and of course he’ll be back

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 7, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

if anybody thinks he's not coming back they are fooling themselves

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

one of the best articles I've ever read

http://www.cracked.com/article_18777_5-scientific-reasons-powerful-people-will-always-suck.html

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

well now I know for sure I have no power

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

tied...suck it yankees

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 7, 2010 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

buster posey looks 12

seriously did anyone else see him taking BP… he looks like he could fit right in if he attended a high school

by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 7, 2010 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

him or heyward for rookie of the year?

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i doubt it will be close really

heyward:
18 HR 72 RBI 11 SB 393 OBP 456 SLG 376 WOBA 4.9 WAR

posey:
18 HR 67 RBI 0 SB 357 OBP 505 SLG 368 WOBA 3.9 WAR

posey is a catcher and has played in 34 less games (142-108) i bet he wins by a landslide

by YesWeOquendo on Oct 7, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

He should win by a landslide

But Heyward is the darling of the year. Right or not, I would be surprised if heyward doesn’t get it.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are arguing that playing less is an argument FOR Posey

And you even cited WAR numbers for me… Heyward was more valuable this year than Posey

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 7, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow that came off more KLawish than I intended

Sorry

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 7, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

no worries

heyward has been more productive.

we’re clearly not a baseball writers. expect posey

baseball awards are stupid. it seems an excuse for sports j’s to talk about nothing. firejoemorgan, where are you?

by YesWeOquendo on Oct 7, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

god I hate the yankees.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Oct 7, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

so much for free coffee

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Twins got Jeted

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

the Yankees offense this year is rigoddamndiculous

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Big Puma

killing non-Cardinals teams is nice to see

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 7, 2010 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

who's the pitcher for the twins?

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

that guy was pretty good

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

thnx

I think we should sign him btw

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

that was a ball

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 7, 2010 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

so the Rays

are they getting avocado’d?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I honestly still don't understand this meme

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 7, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

you and me both

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 7, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

really? it's a year old

why didn’t you ask earlier
they showed constant Haas avocado commercials during the NLDS. you know. that NLDS that never happened.
it’s since been conflated with the nutshot. that one that never happened.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know its old

and I remember the events that didn’t happen. Just doesn’t make much sense to me. Maybe its because I never watch commercials and didn’t get irritated with haas

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 7, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's just a euphemism

synecdoche, even.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

how can you not watch commercials?

do you turn the tv off or run out of the room when they come on?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

my brain turns off

usually because I’m looking at the computer, or flipping to another program for the 3 minutes they cut away

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 7, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

mines usually off too but i still catch parts of them

the haas ones really do suck.

and i’m starting to hate Conan

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have you ever held an Avocado?

Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students

by TomCat009 on Oct 7, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Robin Williams for the L'Orange

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

that's redundant.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, they'll play tomorrow right?

This means the blaze orange in October.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

omar infante

all star

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Some say he's versatile.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

in bed.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Oct 7, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Bobby Cox, true class gentleman of the game.

Who holds the record for most ejections…

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

in bed

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Oct 7, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

You're on a roll

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

we used to read fortune cookies and at the end say "between the sheets"

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

XKCD's use of "except in bed" actually is my fave

Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students

by TomCat009 on Oct 7, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You set em up but azru never knocked em down

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Oct 8, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'll rec em every time

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 8, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ank pops up

wow.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Fake Walkapotamoose.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 7, 2010 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

so he's Skip?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I know no one's said it yet

errah

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

Posey has the confidence to go and talk to someone like lincecum on the mound

what the fuck? am i missing something here or is this fairly average… its like how eckstein was credited with taking routes to the ball at 2B….

also, to strengthen my point… he better have the confidence to talk to Lincecum and others (who’s like the same age as him)

by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 7, 2010 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

He's a young Severus Snape.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would watch a sitcom road trip

with Greinke, Lincecum, and Wainwright

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

this senior circuit series doesn't look very senior

i like it

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

oh i hate bob brenly so very, very much

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 7, 2010 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

me too

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

catcher just stole a base

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

that's kind of an awesome slide

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

-4

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 7, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm... interesting decision

Sandoval: .314 wOBA, 1.9 WAR
Ross: .324 wOBA, 2.2 WAR

genius! let’s put more men on base!

by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 7, 2010 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

he got a hit because he looks hitterish...

i’ve never heard of that, apparantly guys say that when a guy is hitting well, he is looking hitterish…

god these announcers….

by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 7, 2010 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

hitterine

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

pujolsian

amidoinitrite?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 7, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

no one but albert is

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reductio ad hitterum

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

As an online conversation continues

the probability of a comparison to Albert Pujols approaches 1.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

is this Matty's Law?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually it only applies to conversations about baseball

because I’m an idiot and ruined the joke. Ah well.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're thinking of godwin's law anyway

reductio ad hitlerum is just comparing someone to hitler

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is going much better than the year when I tried to root...

…for the Cubs out of family loyalty.

That was quickly rendered a moot point.

by thepainguy on Oct 7, 2010 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

in bed

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Oct 7, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

last one

I promise. I’m logging off now.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Oct 7, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

in bed.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

especially funny since i read the word logging as flogging

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 8, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone notice how robots have been replaced by fortune cookies?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

nope

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone else notice how funny it is?

(I’m fully aware that I’m potentially starting something I’ll regret in a month.)

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Oct 7, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

in bed

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 8, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Preach it brother!

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Oct 8, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Between the sheets

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

TIMMEH

just got home from work. let’s go, gaints!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

heh

gaints

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Oct 8, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh, Ank.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice, Ank.

"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.

by The Continental on Oct 7, 2010 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

ank still gots it

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

lol. Ankiel catches a fly ball and THEN dives.

totally sold it.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Oct 7, 2010 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

how can you not cheep for rick ankiel

you’re a heartless bastard if you don’t

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twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

funfun!

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by SleepyCA on Oct 7, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

ank would have been a good hitting pitcher

sigh

stares longingly out the window

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Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 7, 2010 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

...waiting for spring.

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by SleepyCA on Oct 7, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

we can blame that on TLR also

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by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah!

she shouldn’t have handed the ball to the young kid.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

are we counting out the cykiel?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

how dare you

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was Posey out on that stolen base or am I crazy?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

safe in slow mo

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 7, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i do

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 7, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1. By a foot.

Looked like the ump called him safe because he was tagged on the chest.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Oct 7, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

He assumed the foot got in there

But didn’t factor in the Posey slid early.

And that Posey’s short.

by thepainguy on Oct 7, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

go giants

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 7, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

It seemed pretty obvious to me too

They showed the replay over and over, and the TBS dudes kept not mentioning that he was actually out. It was really annoying.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 7, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

looking at it again he was out . my bad

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 7, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 7, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

TIMMEH

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

there's a lot of free love among the Orange

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah me

More for the Braves than the Gnats.

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

if they win this series

they’re my team to win the world series. right now, i think i prefer the gaints, though

but if one of the red teams make it, i’m rooting for any AL team other than the yankees

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes if it comes down to it.

anybody but the reds and anybody but the yankees.

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

BUSTTERRRRRRRRRRRRRR

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Not so much, Ank.

"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.

by The Continental on Oct 7, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

oh ricky.

that was positively jay-ian.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Oct 7, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

didn't sell it.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

avocados !!! now i know what you guys are talking about !

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 7, 2010 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

pablo molina

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Pablo practices one nice swing in the cages

And then swings at any piece of crap in the game with a totally different swing.

by thepainguy on Oct 7, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

what about andres torres?

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twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's really on fire . the giants just gave him the Willie McCovey award for awsomeness

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 7, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope he stays on fire

I was just interviewed by si.com about my work with him. The longer he plays, and the better he and the Giants do, the more likely it is that that piece will run.

Thus my rage an Rick.

Sorry Ank, it’s not personal.

by thepainguy on Oct 7, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone else hear "born a freak"

while listening to that stupid song, and seeing Tim Lincecum pitch?

Actually kind of cool.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Oct 7, 2010 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Leach probably tweeted it

he’s digging it

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

digging that song?

ugh.

BTW I also swear I heard europe’s “the final countdown” as sandoval’s walk-up song. That can’t be right, can it? I think I’m losing it.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Oct 7, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, the music

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

that postseason ad

made me LOLOLOLOL

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

not to mention I'm pretty sure fans of The Big Red Machine would be aghast

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

who should i blame that on me or sbn

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by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

thing i hate:

tbs’ lack of a pitch count

by tomsteele on Oct 7, 2010 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

they're new to this

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but...

I’m worried about his elbow and shoulder.

He’s got the same timing flaw as Carpenter. See this…

http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/baseball/pitching/professionalpitcheranalyses/TimLincecum.html

by thepainguy on Oct 7, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's got a rubber arm . he hardly ever even warms up before games .

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 7, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i've read it before

i’d comment if i had any idea what i was talking about

also isn’t an inverted L just a 7?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but...

As with the Inverted W, I didn’t invent the term. Someone else did and I’m just sticking with their terminology since it’s already out there.

by thepainguy on Oct 7, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've got an inverted 7 in my,

oh, nevermind

Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)

by mattyfrommo on Oct 8, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great slow mo of Lincecum

Too bad nobody there knows what the hell it means.

by thepainguy on Oct 7, 2010 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

tall and fall

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not exactly...

More like tall and gigantic leg whip.

Which is good.

by thepainguy on Oct 7, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

except he's short.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Oct 7, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey, it's conrad brooks

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

last year averaged one gratuitously bad call per series

just about the same this year.

might as well call it umpseason.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 7, 2010 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

KKKKKKKKKKKK

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 7, 2010 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Is Vexed around

The Gap could use some help

Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students

by TomCat009 on Oct 7, 2010 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe

Have you seen Chacin pitch for CO is he head to arm trouble?

Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students

by TomCat009 on Oct 7, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry headed

Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students

by TomCat009 on Oct 7, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

is that Brett Cecil? I was asking about Jhoulys Chacin

and please tell me that this whole SF staff will blow out something

Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students

by TomCat009 on Oct 8, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

more chacins are out there

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but how many Jhoulys can there be?

Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students

by TomCat009 on Oct 8, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have you had a look at Shelby Miller and Tyler Matzek?

do those two look solid?

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by TomCat009 on Oct 8, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Matzek has me a bit concerned here

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by TomCat009 on Oct 8, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do like Miller here

but I don’t have your expertise

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by TomCat009 on Oct 8, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kinda borderline

Negative = Foot is almost down but arm isn’t on the way up yet.

Positive = PAS elbow is below shoulders. He isn’t pulling back with his glove side elbow yet.

by thepainguy on Oct 8, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was kind of surprised they moved him to

starting, with that motion he seems a bit of a time bomb

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by TomCat009 on Oct 8, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

vexed seems to be another of our MIAs.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 7, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

like clemson girl?

Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students

by TomCat009 on Oct 8, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lincecum is going to win this game 1-0

I wonder if GOB will screw up the Giants because I said that. Probably not, cause I’m not rooting for them. The GOB really enjoy causing pain.

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 7, 2010 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

how many pitches is timmeh on?

and 13 m/f K? holy shit

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 8, 2010 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

114

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 8, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice one

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 8, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

its fun to be in town for the sf postseason. i only wish it were the Crads instead

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 8, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

KKKKKKKKKKKKKK

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 8, 2010 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

he doesn't seem like he needs much help

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 8, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

so... to channel orlando cabrera one more time today

lincecum didn’t pitch that great, it was him and the ump against the braves, he got every call

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 8, 2010 12:09 AM EDT reply actions  

orlando cabrera can go fuck himself

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 8, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

well said.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

why thank you

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 8, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're welcome

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

get a bed you two

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 8, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

jealous much?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

she's just waiting for you to get on with it

to get the photos

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep

the ump called all those swing-and-misses for strikes all right

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 8, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

you know... whatever else they do wrong

TBS really knows how to stage and execute baseball coverage. like it’s not golf. and it’s not not-football.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2010 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

not sure how you mean that

but i like the pitch tracker on the side, that should be a permanent thing for everyone
just add the pitch count

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 8, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

some channels cover baseball

like it’s boring as hell
and it’s just not

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

but last year tbs and fox were just god awful

aaaaaawful

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 8, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'll allow some growing pains for tbs

fox has no excuse
they really should use more of the local guys. it’s so stupid that big fox takes it over and significantly dumbs down the game

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

talk about a guy with a pair of jumbo sized coconut balls

link

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2010 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Sorry.

When I read something as impressive as what that guy tried to do, I like to share it. Won’t happen again.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ecks needs a towel

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2010 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

What the hell, Twinks?

You let the Yanks do that to you in your new palace?

Also, that ump is fucking blind.

"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.

by The Continental on Oct 8, 2010 12:32 AM EDT reply actions  

fight! fight!

vintage Eck … and there’s Tony and Dunc.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2010 12:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Haven't really followed the American League at all this year

So I was wondering if anyone knows if the Rangers have a good chance to beat the Yankees in the ALCS?? After Lee do they have the starters that can shut this Yankees team down? Just hoping the Yankees don’t make the WS so I might actually give a damn to watch it. I could get into a Rangers-Phillies World Series. A re-run of last year would tune me out. Not sure I can handle another NY Yankee blow-job the media will give out.

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Oct 8, 2010 3:08 AM EDT reply actions  

I got all excited by this headline

Jack Clark out at FSM; Horton could be on the move. Until I read it. It just states that Rick would move somewhere for a full time job instead of a part time job. Also trying to make a mountain out of Clark not coming back to FSMW.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2010 9:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll hire somebody like,

oh, I don’t know, maybe Vince Coleman? Please FSM , hire Vince, the man needs a job.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

VINCE!!!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

There should be a

Give Vince Coleman a Jobblehead Day.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 8, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

can we start a write-in campaign?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would suggest a Flat Vince campaign

but that really doesn’t have the same punch as Flat Stan.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Plus the whole "tarp" thing.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Run Vince Run!

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 8, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Make the giveaway a tarp with a cool picture of Vince printed on it

Great for picnics or trips to the beach!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 8, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's just wrong.

But damn funny.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe new batting coach

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 8, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

just kidding

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 8, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

"No, no, no, Colby. You just slap it to the left and RUN. Base hit every time."

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 8, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah slap it like vince

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 8, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'd be okay with that

If Colby then would steal second every time. And some times third.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

whiteyball

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 8, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just want them to fire Al

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 8, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

i dont know if i can take another season of his commentary and keep my sanity

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 8, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I find him amoooosing....

;=8)

Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 8, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya that headline is BS, but i really hope ricky is gone

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 8, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

we knew this... we have a confidence poll!

link

I guess the website is Thuuz.com

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2010 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

no word on where Jose Reyes is in this graph
Statistics company Thuuz analyzes games by accounting for things like run differentials, upset wins and comebacks.

if we could post those graphs, I would not be opposed to that in the game thread. there are no spoilers involved.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

It looked like we were middle of the pack.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

we end dead last, though

and the Royals were apparently Very Exciting by September.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm dying to see 2009

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe they serve some really good kool-aid in KC.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I suspect Thuuz.com does not have a metric for bench-clearing scrums.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

My favorite event in baseball is a dominant pitching performance

Thus, these playoffs have been magnificent for me!

Lincebum’s performance last night has pretty much turned me into a Giants fan for this postseason, which pains me to say (the wounds from 2002 have yet to heal). Halladay did something beautiful, but the Phillies have become like the yankees of the NL, and rooting for them is too easy.

I’ve never been able to like Timmeh (he’s still possessing Carp’s 2009 Cy Young), but that was awesome!

Also… How much does AL baseball suck? so damn boring.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2010 11:10 AM EDT reply actions  

31 swing & misses! 31!!!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Visit the Giants' park.

It will be easier to root for them after you see their park. Holy wowsers…makes Busch look like a toilet.

by mattisnotfrench on Oct 8, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

my pals made the giant mitt out in LF. they left some suprises inside it

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 8, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I went in May.

My fiancee’s family hooked us up with some RIDICULOUS tickets. And Matt Cain went and threw a one-hitter.

I also got to watch batting practice and fielding practice from on the field. Just ridiculous.

by mattisnotfrench on Oct 8, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those were some good seats.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Friday night game!

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 8, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love those San Francisco script jackets.

Beautiful. Makes me wish the Cardinals had one that said “Saint Louis.”

by spants on Oct 8, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

didnt they used to? i swear i've seen some

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 8, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

its a great park no doubt and the food is soooooooo good

saw the Cards in April there and had seats first row behind the StL dugout . Loshe kept looking at my neice. If i knew how to post a picture from my mac i’d show you why .

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 8, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

carp's 2009 cy young?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 8, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

or Waino's either/or

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's more like it

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 8, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

either way...

Tim should’ve got that old bronze

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

why ask Bobby Cox about instant replay

of course he’s going to say it will cause more arguments with umpires…

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

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