The other shortstops, or the wizard's apprentices
by DanUpBaby on Oct 29, 2010 6:00 AM EDT
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PrintThe St. Louis Cardinals are an old franchise—they've played 129 seasons, if you count the American Association St. Louis Browns, and you should—and it seems almost strange to me, striking, at least, that one of their positions was monopolized so late in that history by one player. Ozzie Smith, I mean—he joined the Cardinals in 1982, 100 years after error-prone Bill Gleason manned shortstop for the fifth-place Brown Stockings, and up to that point Marty Marion would have been the Cardinals' all-time great shortstop. Now there's no contest, and I can't see a situation in which there ever will be.
I've started on the player capsules for this year's Maple Street Press annual, and when I got to Brendan Ryan's, which was an excuse to rhapsodize about his 2009 instead of worrying about his 2010, I wondered how many other Cardinals have managed such plausible imitations of an Ozzie Smith season. Since Baseball-Reference has finally given us an easily acceptable, admittedly rough fielding system that extends into the past, I decided to do it in leaderboard format. Here are the top Cardinals careers for shortstops not named Ozzie Smith. (For your control group: Ozzie Smith was worth, per B-R's Total Zone stat, 197 fielding runs as a Cardinal, with a peak season of 32.)
Honorable Mention: Bobby Wallace: Bobby Wallace put together 117 fielding runs in St. Louis in 20 years in St. Louis, but unfortunately he did most of it for the St. Louis Browns. From 1899 to 1901 he was a Cardinal—more accurately, a Perfecto, and then a Cardinal—but he jumped to the new American League Browns in 1902 and stayed there until 1916, when he returned briefly to the Cardinals as a 43-year-old utility infielder.
In 1901 Wallace had one of the better shortstop seasons in team history, hitting .324 with 34 doubles and 15 home runs while earning 25 runs on defense.
1. Marty Marion: 132 fielding runs, 24 peak: The fielding statistic revolution hasn't exonerated Marion for his inexplicable 1944 MVP campaign; he was +24 on defense that year, but that only brought him up to 4.0 WAR, which gets you a little less than halfway to the value Stan Musial amassed that season.
But there are worse things than winning an MVP Award you don't deserve, and Marion was an outstanding defensive shortstop and a passable offensive shortstop, which is certainly the Ozzie Smith formula. He also has one of the better full-name fields on Baseball-Reference: Martin Whiteford Marion (Slats or The Octopus). So many options!
2. Dal Mavill—49 fielding runs, 14 peak: Yeah, there's a bit of a drop-off after Slats or The Octopus. Maxvill at his best looks a little like Brendan Ryan last year—in 1966, his first season as a starter, he was -18 on offense and +14 on defense, culminating in 1.5 wins above a replacement player. For his career: 3.8 WAR.
3. Brendan Ryan—40 fielding runs, 18 peak: That was quick! Ryan's played what amounts to a little less than three full seasons, and picked up 40 fielding runs. It's a shame it took him so long to get started—defense often peaks extremely early, but Ryan is arguably the best shortstop in baseball at 28. John Dewan's DRS is even fonder of his defense—it gives him 20 runs in 2009 and 27 in 2010.
What impressed me as I was looking up former Cardinals starters was how rarely they played somebody who was clearly terrible at the position. The two players who accrued the most negative defensive value at short in Cardinals history are none other than Leo Durocher, whose 1937 season could be the worst in team history at the position, but mainly for his offense; and Arnold George Hauser (Peewee or Stub), 1910-1912, whose full-name field is nearly as good as Slats or The Octopus's.
So for our official shortstop butcher we'll have to choose another Honorable Mention, Browns star Vernon Decatur Stephens (Junior or Buster). Buster, whose nickname is as evocative as any I've used in this blog entry, was basically a nineties shortstop transported back in time to lose the World Series to the Cardinals in 1944. He won a home run title and three RBI titles in his career, and was worth -35 runs on defense as a Brown. That's what I'm talking about.
Of course, then he went to Boston and was worth 19 runs as a shortstop in three years before he was moved to third base. So maybe defensive stats aren't perfect yet.
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I just wanted to mention
I’ve seen 2 mentions of Christy Mathewson in the press the pass couple of weeks, the latest in this week’s SI article on the World Series. If it weren’t for this blog I’d have no idea who that was!
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Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2010 8:42 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Yeah, which era is that supposed to be again?
I want moar throwbacks. Moar! Maybe even a Perfectos throwback. I love all the old jerseys.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
but they have to all wear the socks right.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That was from the Civil Rights Game this year.
"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.
by The Continental on Oct 29, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope beyond hopes that Boog has a passable offensive season in '11
He’s one of my favorite players, and it would be nice not to have to defend him.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
you'll have to, anyway.
I’m sure someone will convince him to paint whipped cream smilies on Mozeliak’s car.
He’s unpredictable, man. Anything could happen. As long as he doesn’t break his head open (vid), he’ll be okay.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
(Dear Mark McGwire: You ruined a good chunk of my teenage baseball memories. Try not to fuck it up with Boog. Please? Thanks.)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't mind defending cheeky shenanigans
I will defend those as aggressively as Boog defends 1.5x the area that most SS defend. And I think mustachioed faceplants are part of the Boog package (TWSS).
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
let's hope there's room on the bench for Bombs.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm still of the opinion that the Boog/Bomb Show adds at least .1 WAR/episode.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
not if Carp is so annoyed he threatens to break the camera in half
i don’t expect to see more Boog and Bombs sitcom beyond spring training and that might not even happen, but i do hope Bombs makes the club – he seems to have a positive effect on Boog
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
or perhaps it's the negative effect of the gritty self-flagellators Boog would have to hang out with instead
and didn’t Aaron Miles throw him under the bus this year?
the Hall of Famers are all for Boog, thankfully. one hopes they’ll send him postcards.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
yes, Miles was an ass to Boog in the interview after he last pitched
i really ho Mo doesn’t do anything stupid this offseason like replacing or trading Boog cause then good luck with the pitching to contact
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
I missed this interview...
so, you’re telling me there is further cause for hating the shifty one?
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
yeah, i always thought he sucked but he was probably
a good dude
i don’t think so anymore
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
What did he say?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
he was being interviewed on his scoress ninth
and next to him boog was moping that he didn’t get to pitch
miles looked irritated that his time in the spotlight is being interrupted
boog made a couple more comments from the distance and it must have been the cat who told miles boog was sad cause he really wanted to pitch
miles kinda rolled his eyes and was real dismissive
it was unpleasant to watch, fsnmw cut it out of the online video
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Great pic...
And I’m with cardsgirl, that retro uniform is sick (this is a term my 14 year old daughter uses regularly and I’ve been encouraged to work it into my everyday lingo).
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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 29, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to see them drought back as a road uni.....
I always liked those unis.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
That would be pretty cool
The Red Sox have done something like that… but those are boring. The Cards throwbacks are pretty excellent and would be nice as an alternate road uni worn sparingly.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 29, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I love the red piping on those 40's era uniforms.
I feel like we could use a bit more red on our uniforms.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I really like that abou tthem as well.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yadi2 thanks for posting the bigshot of this pic ! Boog is awesome and Rolen is still a favorite
even if he is a Red. Go Giants !
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.
by riftraftredbird on Oct 29, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
there's a bigger version, i think
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
sigh...i *heart* boog
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
awesome.
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
This is about defensive value, not offense.
Templeton in St. Louis was, maybe surprisingly, about an average defensive shortstop (14 runs over 5 years) and in fact would sustain a similar rate when he moved to San Diego. Thing is, he didn’t do it by playing average defense. He had tremendous range, not markedly inferior to that of the guy he got traded for, and a strong arm. Strong, but scatter-shot. If you’re old enough to remember him, you will probably remember him getting to balls that just left you with your mouth hanging open, then air-mailing the resulting throw into the right-field stands. It happened more than once.
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by StanTheManFan on Oct 29, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh I do remember seeing him play a few times...
…and he did make some amazing plays (not nearly as much as the Ozzster), that’s why I wuz wonderin’…
Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O
what about short timers like groat
nice guy, good player
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Not a Cardinal long enough for his defense to make the list.
Just three years, 1963-5. In two of those he was clearly, although not decisively, above average defensively, according to B-R; in the third, a bit below average. He had 12 fielding runs total in that short stay by their metrics, not enough to make DanUp’s list but still a good thing. He was a slightly above average fielder for his overall career.
I can remember him in the BotB uniform (rather dimly), and yeah, it’d be nice to have somebody like that as an option now.
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by StanTheManFan on Oct 29, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
in motion
http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/search/media.jsp?player_id=453895
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The look on Riggleman's face after the game-saver is priceless.
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
I've seen Brendan make some very Ozzie-esque plays
but some of them are just WTF
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
and.... because sbn does seem to hate us
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/tags/boogtv
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Got this from Uni Watch just now (relevant to World Series, not Brendan Ryan)
Best baseball Halloween costume of the year?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
My wife went to a Halloween party
wearing a Diamondbacks jersey (didn’t have a Cardinals jersey to wear, which should be remedied), halo and wings. She said she was an angel in the outfield.
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by StanTheManFan on Oct 29, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that is awesome
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Blah
I was about to post that it’s so quiet in VEB today and nobody is talking. Then I noticed that it’s only 8.42 as I type this, and it only feels quiet because I’ve been awake for almost four hours already.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
welcome to my world
always do my pilates at the crack of why-the-hell-am-I-up.
let's go bitches!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 29, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No Edgar?
I’m disappointed he didn’t make the top 3.
Go Giants!
Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Jay/Craig 9, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, M Carpenter 5, Molina 2, T Greene 4, Ryan 6, pitcher
Hey, numbers don't lie
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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 29, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
this was rating defense
he wasn’t a bad defensive SS, but he was far from an elite defender
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone think we could make one of those old-time deals for Cain?
like “We’ll give you Mo’s car for 3 weeks, AND this banjo. All we ask for is Matt Cain.”
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I'd imagine the asking price for him right now is at an all-time high.
If these were the PD forums, I think we’d see proposals like Jay, Greene and Luke Lyn (which is what I imagine some PD forum dweller would think his name is) for Cain and Freddy Sanchez.
Realistically, I don’t know enough about Cain’s service time and arby status to say what they’d want and whether we’d be willing/able to pay it.
Dude... that's too much
Strauss seems to like that Luke guy & Jay hit like 300 this year which means he’s gonna hit 330 over a full year, and Greene is going to be our starting Shortstop next year.
So that package ought to be able to get us Posey, Cain and Renteria!!!!
FOR REALLZ
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
Depends on the banjo
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 29, 2010 11:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What if it was autographed by Steve Martin?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
How can we trade for Matt Cain?
We cut Chris Duncan and the Giants now have a lefthanded hitting first baseman…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Random: I went to D-Dee's Fanshot of Matt Holliday's late-season walkoff celebration
I wanted to give her props for the great photo that has been my computer background for the past few weeks. Y2S linked to Red Baron’s December 23, 2009 post (entitled “Twas the Wednesday Before Christmas”)… that was the first time I visited VEB. I actually remembered much of the post (his vivid description of his inept attempts at video game baseball) I got misty-eyed.
Three things:
1) Y2S your encyclopedic knowledge and database of all things VEB, is awesome.
2) D-Dee, that picture is so effin’ cool
3) I do not have to be productive at work today. Thus, I am bored and will trolling VEB all day today.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
well thank you
I hope I can properly organize it this year, but things have been busy and may get busier. y’all deserve better.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
damn right we deserve better
but no one else is dumb enough to do it for free
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
I know, right?
moran
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
1) Y2S your encyclopedic knowledge and database of all things VEB, is awesome.
This is true. Have you read the VEB glossary?
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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 29, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
It might be more accurate
to say that Y2S’s knowledge is glossarian rather than encyclopedic.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Just once i'd like to see DanUp have a post with only one title!
Milt Thompson FTW!
what are we, on a title budget?
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
So... THAT'S where the Mustache came from!
Floppy + Boog = naughty
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
courtesy of d-dee
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
this came after the 'stache.
the staches were actually a 2009 thing from the starting pitchers.
/didactic
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
oh i know... Carp's mustache is probably my favorite Cardinals "thing" since 2006
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
are you sure you're not a girl?
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
nope. not sure at all.
I know my mom wanted a girl….
SheckieZx disappointing his mother since 1984
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
and i can't hate on my gf's HUGE crushes on Skip, Carp and Waino
because I am pretty certain I have huge mancrushes on them…
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
CDGAF about Sheckie's Very Girly... aaargh
i give up
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Carpenter doesn't give a f.. about SheckeiZx's Very Girly temptations
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
Carp Don't Give A Fuck About Sheckie's Very Gay Tendencies?
sigh…
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
aaah there it is
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
I am really becoming a rec cherry picker
I just come up with slight improvements of stuff started by other people. I’m like the Japanese with cameras.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 29, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
winner, winner
?
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
FTFY
Carp, in fact, emphatically does not care give a fuck.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i just googled "carp don't give a fuck"
first result “Carp don’t give a fuck about Sheckie’s Sissy Feelings” (courtesy of VEB)
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
heh..you're famous.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
if you two ever get in the same room with one of those guys
aaaakwaaard
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
you realize this isn't on the test, right?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
you don't know that
what if it is? i have to be prepared
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
well
Sheckie did say he was going to go for the federal gov’t, didn’t he?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i have GOT to be more careful around here!
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Yep, FBI. Trust me, they're watching you.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I better put some more clothes on
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
here's floppy cheating on boog
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
i like how Boog is right behind Flop
as if saying “ooooh, neat! I’m next! I’m next!”
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
did someone make a matching gif of this?
I think it’s mine, so it’s lame.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Bombs and Freezer fighting over Boog
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Is flop offering Boog coke?
Or that blue ivory crap?
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 29, 2010 11:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
big mac & duncan are back
i’m probably a little late on this, but i’m glad to see that the cards aren’t waiting around with the coaches. i’m not sure if we will see much in the way of players being signed soon, or if we will see another year where the cards wait until the last minute and pick up someone like joe thurston and see “potential” in them.
effin zoomzoom.....
late again.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
FLopez ends up as a Type B. I guess that doesn’t matter since he was released.
No other 2010 Cardinals listed.
"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.
by The Continental on Oct 29, 2010 11:42 AM EDT reply actions
MLB Trade Rumors has a little more info, including options and which have been declined or accepted.
"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.
by The Continental on Oct 29, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Did you notice that Bengie Molina
is a Type A?
Where do they get these rankings, anyway?
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by StanTheManFan on Oct 29, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
It's an elaborate formula that they run.
Then, thew throw papers with names on them down a flight of stairs. The higher up the stairs you land, the better your rating.
by dronemc on Oct 29, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
sounds about right
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
rec
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
beat ya to it
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
The spreadsheet are not amused.
However, I am.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
Boog is awesome at playing SS
Like truly amazingly awesome. Now if only he could hit…
Look at 2009. Boog posted a .324 wOBA, which is of course not a huge number in absolute terms. However that wOBA was good enough to put him firmly in the middle of the pack of ML SS’s that season and (when added to his UZR) to make him a 2.7 WAR player. I mean, average is not bad, something I have to tell students who are bummed about B’s and C’s all the time, average is average. If Boog can be an average offensive SS, he’s a valuable player.
Sadly his 2010, was considerably less good. .256 wOBA… not good even by his fairly low standards. Let’s hope he can rebound in 2011 because, in my book, his glove is so good he simply must play every day.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 29, 2010 11:51 AM EDT reply actions
I would like to ditto that last line.
Every day, Tony, every day.
by cardsgirl95 on Oct 29, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Isn't a .324 wOBA usually around average for all hitters?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Slightly below, I think
I’ve always heard that a lg. average wOBA sits at about .335 but, and I hate to plead laziness, I haven’t looked at what it sat at this season. It’s not a huge difference from .324 to ~.335 but it’s a difference none the less.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 29, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh. I was being lazy too, so I went ahead and checked Fangraphs
Yearly averages with (Boog’s wOBA)
2007: .331 (.342, short season)
2008: .328 (.277)
2009: .329 (.324, pretty darn close to average)
2010: .321 (.256, oy!)
Offense had gown down a tad in the last couple years, but a .008 shift downward in one year seems pretty significant since we’re talking about all of baseball.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
WRIST SURGERY
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I wonder how much of an impact that had on Boog's bat this year
Probably quite a bit though. It’s not easy to swing a bat when your wrist feels not 100%. I wouldn’t be shocked if it had a mental effect on the guy. This is all educated speculating though, of course.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 29, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
the lack of spring training probably hurt him even more.
and that whole “please let’s not let down Mac” thing — he and Skip had several months with McGwire.
but mostly he should’ve had that time in ST to work things out. instead, he was working it out during the season, and then with everyone else getting exposed, he got exposed too.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ryan's wrist really is the question, isn't it?
Hopefully, he is able to heal fully and swing the bat like he did in ’09.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
this
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
okay it's official starbucks coffee is gross
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
what did you get?
I usually like their house coffees.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i don't drink regular (american) coffee, tastes like water to me
but argh, their espresso has this weird aftertaste
and not they have prepackaged single serving flavored instant coffee, which is okay, only it’s mixed with regular coffee too. i put it in cold milk and it’s okay but today i thought let’s put it in warm milk. so it turned into the regular gross aftertasting starbucks grossness
in three and a half years i have yet to find coffee in the US, which i find acceptable in taste
i miss lavazza…
but you guys have baseball and bbq and cheesecake mixed into soft serve icecream so i guess i can sacrifice coffee
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
oh.....so you're to good for our coffee????
GOOD DAY MA’AM!!!!!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
but...
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
I SAID GOOD DAY!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'll bet she stole fizzy lifting drink or something.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
If u don't like our watery coffee....
….wait ‘til u try our watery ’beer’ – especially light beer, which is in all practicality beer-flavored soda…
:=8P
Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O
Don't insult soda like that.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
that is a whole other thing
however, bud select is growing on me
i am terrified i might be turning a little american… fuuuuu
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
There once was a rather profound philosopher who suggested that...
drinking american beer was quite similar to making love in a canoe!
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
Fucking close to water.
/someone had to.
"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.
by The Continental on Oct 29, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
thank you...
i was feeling left out of the fun
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
W&M Beer Bracket
This article was in the William & Mary college newspaper about a NCAA type Beer Bracket. There is also a link to the full page article and completed bracket for your off day browsing.
Back in the day
when I made my own beer the authority whose book I used referred to U.S. lager as “malt pop”.
ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss
One of my best friends is the assistant brewer now at Morgan Street downtown
I recently sampled some schwarzbier he made. So so good.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Did you order their regular coffee?
Their coffee tastes burnt to me. I’m pretty sure they let it sit in the pot for as long as they can get away with.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i think their blend is just plain bad
i have no idea how starbucks became so huge with such a subpar product
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
American coffee was much worse before Starbucks and the gourmet coffee thing took off.
It’s hard to describe how much worse it used to be.
"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.
by The Continental on Oct 29, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Folgers crystals bad.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
but,,,,but,,,, good to the last drop!
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
We're Americans, duh.
Starbucks’ prefers their coffee beans roasted much longer (ie, burnt).
McDonald’s coffee is actually better.
(Per the taste testers who sell coffee to both companies.)
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
Today, I am the typo maching.
Temperature drops 10 degrees overnight and my fingers are frozen.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
frost on my windows this morning
i was shocked, went back in and got a jacket
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
I had to scrape the frost off my car to go to the store this morning.
I didn’t expect that.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i hope you bought a defroster spray at the store
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
I hate that
Cool info about the taste test thing, I did not know that. I will say this about McDonald’s; they have actually made some improvements the last several years.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Yeah I used to hate everything there
But I like thier chicken caesar, chicken tenders, Mcgriddles, and even thier fries since they’re not so damn salty anymore
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 29, 2010 1:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
mcdonalds coffee is really good
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
McD's is really good, Starbucks isn't bad as long as you add a little somthin something
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Having formerly worked at a Coffee Bean a couple of summers ago,
I can tell you that yes, yes we let it sit in the pot for as long as we could get away with – but that was much a factor of it being tedious to replace the pot, and it getting in the way of trying to finagle handjobs in the back room, than it did with being cheap and corperatist.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 29, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't need to hear the handjob part,
thanks though.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Besides, it's not like you were getting ZJs.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 29, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
so wait...
I gave a barista a handjob…and he was just kidding?
Facepalm!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Insert "non-dairy creamer" joke here.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
this is how the mcdonalds lady got her millions.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
The McDonald's lady got her millions because McDonald's ignored thousands of complaints.
And her millions equalled McDonald’s profits on coffee sales for a single day.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
It's nothing to write home about.
That’s at least in part due to how much Starbucks caused everyone else to raise their game. Even brewing really good coffee at home got much easier than ~10 years ago.
"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.
by The Continental on Oct 29, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
the christmas blend is quite good. the rest is crap.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
The only Starbucks I like are the like 1200 calorie drinks
such as egg nog lattes. Which I think are made with crack, too.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 29, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
egg nog lattes? try like 3000 calories
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Damn it
Now I want egg nog
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 29, 2010 2:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i like my cream with a little coffee in it
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
in case anywhere here is a big coffee drinker or cares about these things...
i was in las vegas a couple weeks ago and had coffee at Aria, the new casino/hotel. best coffee i have ever had. it was really fantastic.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Traveling to Vegas every morning
I’ll get right on that
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 29, 2010 2:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
*for coffee
Also I was being a little sarcastic, my wife is a coffee addict, I prefer tea, just not that bitter Earl grey stuff
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 29, 2010 2:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
what, you have something against coffee?
coffee’s not made of cows
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
I don;t mind really good coffee....
….but it tends to make me feel jittery and weird. Tea relaxes me and makes me go Ahhhhhhhhhhh…..
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
thanks for the tip.
What else is there to do in vegas, other than gamble drink, chase hookers, shop, and listen to celine dion howl?
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Oct 29, 2010 10:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
eat
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I love that show
I really want to have something old and cool just so I can go into their store.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
awards
The complete list of winners, courtesy the MLBPA, with the winner’s name capitalized and the Cardinals bolded:
National League
Outstanding Player: CARLOS GONZALEZ (COL), Albert Pujols (STL), Joey Votto (CIN)
Outstanding Pitcher: ROY HALLADAY (PHI), Ubaldo Jimenez (COL), Adam Wainwright (STL)
Outstanding Rookie: Jaime Garcia (STL), Jason Heyward (ATL), BUSTER POSEY (SF)
Comeback Player: R.A. Dickey (NYM), TIM HUDSON (ATL), Aubrey Huff (SF)
NOGAFAAL but here
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Third-Highest wOBA in the NL
1) Joey Votto, .439
2) Albert Pujols, .420
3) Carlos Gonzalez, .416
According to Fangraphs.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I know he was great this year and all, but the Outstanding Player award must have weird criteria
Do they encourage the players to vote for up and coming guys more often or something? Or breakout years? I would think even the players would understand he’s wasn’t as good as Votto or Pujols.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
If they are giving the award to three individuals,
I wonder if the players are given three votes.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
There's also that thing about the Great American Ballpark.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
BABIP of over .380 for an entire year is totally normal, dude.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
these are of course the Player's Choice Awards
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Grind your own beans...
…and use a French press. Don’t overheat the water, boiling is too hot. When feeling a budget crisis, I go with 100% Columbian 8 O’Clock whole bean – “Consumer Reports” rated it a best buy. The grinder I use is a standard, $15 Braun, which can be used in all sorts of Alton Brown techniques besides grinding coffee beans. I’m not fond of Starbucks coffee in any form.
I spent some time in Seattle in June and it turns out Starbucks coffee there has the same woodsy burn note as anywhere else you get it. Quite disappointing, really. And if you’ve never been to Seattle, yes, they have coffee places EVERYwhere.
Honi soit qui mal y pense.
you get a goldstar for referencing alton brown
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
I think his Scrap Iron Chef episode is one of the best things on TV from the last decade.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I also learned from him to use enough coffee when brewing.
It looks like too much, but if you don’t use enough, it ends up bitter.
"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.
by The Continental on Oct 29, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
eight o' clock coffee is really good, too. damn i forgot about that. i've been buying dunkin donuts, which i think is actually really good too
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
i cannot & will not support those chowd loving north east assholes
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i'm in a gif'y mood
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/10/22/1767251/another-look-at-the-middling-infield#49989667
if you’re not careful, you’ll turn into gdm
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
hey, at least mine are baseball related
and i also don’t have a 2 inch… you know what, nevermind
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
by d-dee on Oct 29, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so it begins...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
This has great potential........
unlike gdm.
/sorry gdm, I couldn’t resist.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
My roommate freshman year of college listened to Linkin Park
Ugh. He had, shall we say, musical tastes that did not largely overlap with mine.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
so i was looking for a Machine gif (of course)
and came across a thread that discusses Brian Wilson’s proposed sexual prowess/techniques etc… I would like but it is disturbing.
Also, there are rumors that Pat Burrell is “Machine”
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
i can make you a gif if you want
but please not another word about anyone’s sexual techniques
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
I didn't say, I was just reporting what I saw.
I apologize, I needed to get it off my chest. The thread was scary, especially someone named “AstrosFan”…. (shudders)
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
and it was supposed to be "link but..." not "like but..."
Freudian?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Pat the Bat?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
apparently Pat and Beard are roommates
or at the least really good bar-hoppin’ buddies
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
i am skeptical
Burrell doesn’t need that much sugar.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yeah, not sure if I'm buying it.
There is also a movement for Wilson to host SNL.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
now THAT would be epic.
but only with Betty White.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Burell, you know, that actually seems pretty likely
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
So if you googlemap directions from "Japan to China"
one of the directions is “jetski across the Pacific Ocean – 782 km”
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
why don't you type into google "where is chuck norris"
and click on the feeling lucky button or look at the first result if your google instant is on
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
That would make a fantastic sig
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 29, 2010 2:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm planning on building...
…a pulled pork smoker from terra cotta planters next summer. And I am finally going to do the jerkey-via-box fan with furnace filters when the weather gets colder with dry air. Oh, and regarding the French press: be sure to clean it off regularly. I think most coffee ends up tasting bad because of the tools used to make – they aren’t cleaned enough and end up with icky, oily residue that spoils the taste. French presses are easily broken down and cleaned.
Honi soit qui mal y pense.
I recommend a Weber bullet smoker
The terra cotta approach is fun but it’s difficult to keep something like that right for the 15 hours needed to smoke a pork shoulder. You’ll be surprised at the electric draw a 1000w heating element draws. I hope you have a house and not an apartment.
You also won’t have enough heat to be able to put water in there for steam; that’s pretty necessary for low quality meat, IMO.
I’m trying a new rub recipe on some pork shoulders I’m smoking overnight tonight.
I have a killer rub, and agree on the weber
Also check out Brinkman smoker…quite a bit cheaper than a Weber, and a good one to get started in the smoking game.
/I have three different smokers…once you start, you can’t quit.
Also…smokingmeatforums.com is a great site.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
spicy? not spicy?
This is what I"m trying; my wife got the recipe from a magazine ad:
1 1/2 teaspoons smoked paprika
2 teaspoons black pepper
1 teaspoon cayenne
1 teaspoon dried thyme
1 teaspoon garlic powder
1/2 teaspoon salt
I’m not convinced it’s as good as the “best rubs in the universe” rub from the weber forums, but I wanted to try something different and the smoked paprika was interesting.
I make bigger batches......
approximately on all of these, I just dump it in as I go. It’s a rub, so there’s no reason for exactness.
1/4 c Smoked Paprika (Costco has large bottles of this for about $4)
1/4 c Brown Sugar
2tbs gran garlic
4-6 tbs chilli powder
1-2 tbs dry mustard
1tbs thyme
1 tbs oregano
as much or little cayenne to set the heat that you want
2-4 tbs tony Cachere’s Cajun
2-4 tbs kosher salt
2- 4 tbs of fresh ground pepper
2 tbs onion powder
I think that’s pretty much the base of mine. The thing here is, don’t dump it all in a bowl and then mix it. Start with the brown sugar and get that mixed so it’s almost granular, then add the Paprika, and mix it all in. Continue doing this until everything is added. It makes the rub much more uniform. I’ll usually do a batch twice the size of this, and just keep it in a Tupperware bowl. I use this for shoulders, brisket, ribs, pretty much everything.
Also, try finishing your pulled pork with a mixture of 1/2 c apple cider vinegar, crushed red peppers, couple tbs of brown sugar, and some cajun seasoning. Heat this until the sugar is melted, and pour over your shoulder after it is pulled. I was a little leery at first because I’m not much of a vinegar fan, but it really brings out the flavor. just add a little, and taste it. You can always add more, or not use it at all if you don’t like it, but you won’t taste the vinegar. II’ll usually have a little left over on a 7 or 8 lb butt.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
For some reason, RR...
…I mentally read that last paragraph in Joe Morgan’s voice, like he was adding it in after a particularly tough at bat on Wednesday night baseball.
the last sentence really sealed the Joe Morgan voice.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
if you type in "AFL" into google, arizona fall league isn't even on the first page!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU
i cant go to the chris carpenter AFL ceremony thing because i have a freaking softball game that night. i hate the world right now.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
call in sick damn it
have i taught you nothing???
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
i'm the coach, though. /insert sad face
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
but it's softball......
hand off the responsibilities to someone else…I’m sure they’ll be able to manage….
Also, CCDGAFAIHBSBG.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
shit you're right, he doesn't
we never have enough girls though. if i dont play they will have to forfeit. i can’t let the team down. EFF.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
D-Dee
volunteers to come play in your stead… It will be a serve as further indoctrination into our diluted american culture for her!
problem solved ;)
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
so if d-dee was in arizona, she would play in my softball game instead of going to see carp at the AFL game?
i somehow doubt that…
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
brain twin
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Where's spants when you need her?
She can show up for the game, stab a few folks, get the game called short, and everyone can make the event.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
if i were in AZ with a choice between IHB's ballgame and Carp's ceremony
guess where i’d go
also, i can’t field, i drop things
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
hm... i guess i can play RF for the Rangers then
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Just forfeit
and tell the team you’ll bring the beer next game.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
i already bring beer to all the games, unfortunately.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
time for tequila
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Tell them next time you'll poisen the beer if they can't find a replacment for you.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
or just get everyone tickets for the AFL ceremony game
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
who knew GDM & AZ softball leagues had anything in common
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I didn't know softball teams had coaches.
Or, are you the coach of a youth softball team?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
puts her bringing beer to all the games in a different light
by YesWeOquendo on Oct 29, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
no its adult coed.
you’d be surprised. you need a coach to make the lineups, set the positions, pass out the schedules, tell everybody the rules, and call everyone they know to come fill in when inevitably someone cancels two hours before the game
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
So, does this mean that your assistant coach will be calling everyone
he or she knows to replace you when you cancel two hours before the game in favor of the Chris Carpenter ceremony?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
OT: So what is everybody being for halloween?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I don't know yet
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's me, modeling my costume
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
sweet ride
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
I AM THE LAW!
…now imma get on my bike and peddle away…
"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.
by The Continental on Oct 29, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I'm pretty sure I'm getting my hair cornrowed and going Kenny Powers of the Charros
Not afraid to nitpick
Son is going as Link.
I went as Dr. Horrible last year. I might get that out again.
"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.
by The Continental on Oct 29, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I am not dressing up.
I have to take my little brother and sister (dad’s third wife). The last time I dressed up was 2006. I went as a World Champion. My costume was a St. Louis Cardinals uniform and the World Heavyweight Champion belt.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 29, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I should probably just be the dude again this year, but this time with short hair
gives me an excuse to go out of the house wearing pajama pants and a bathrobe anyway
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
so, essentially, you're gdm
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
we are very similar and completely different at the same time
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
last time i went...
i was dressed up as an etch-a-sketch
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
thats cool
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
is there an etiquette for dressing up when you're handing out candy?
(obviously… will be wearing clothes.)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
we are wearing old man and old woman masks.
we have normal costumes for the party tomorrow. cyndi lauper and brett michaels. our other friend is donald trump
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I have a tourney, so no Halloween for me =(
It’s, uh, not exactly the type of event for an engaged college dude anyways
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
last time i did anything for Halloween was 1999
gawd i suck
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I had to hobble together a last minute thing......
I had my Carp jersey at my SO’s house, so I wore that and squeezed into a pair of her boy’s baseball pants, and went as Carp. I wandered around bars yelling I DON’T GIVE A FUCK, but apparently I was the only one who got it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions
CodyG's surreal life in comics for the day.
by CodyG on Oct 29, 2010 2:36 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
how come i don't get it?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
oh yeah i haven't.
incidentally, my cat was born into a litter named after dora the explorer characters.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
my cat's name is poot.
it was originally dora and i changed it because obviously poot is a way better name. i am now wishing i would have changed it to swiper.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
how does it help me to watch someone else make the same joke i don't get?
but thanks, i am reminded that i love brian regan. the pop tarts bit and the thanksgiving at the kennedys… “ask not what creamed corn can do for you…”
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
by IHeartBoog on Oct 29, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't say it owuld help.
I just said to watch it.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
This has been bothering me for some time.
Growing up, I learned that folks were “Cardinal fans” with “Cardinals” in the singular. There were “Cardinal hats” and “Cardinal t-shirts” and “Cardinal uniforms.” Now, it seems that folks use the plural, i.e., “Cardinals fans.” Which is grammatically acceptable? Which is grammatically correct?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
NOGAFAG
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Whoa whoa... that's kind of bigoted, don't you think?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Oct 29, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would think it's "Cardinals"
As the Cardinals are a team, a singular unit. So saying a “Cardinals fan” or “Cardinals uniforms” would be correct
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
If you want to be completely finicky
a “Cardinal fan” would be a follower of Stanford (or perhaps of the bird or the ecclesiastical office), while a follower of Our Team should be a “Cardinals fan”.
But I find it difficult to imagine circumstances in which it would matter.
ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss
All 6 Rocky Movies
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
that was supposed to open in another window...
i apologize if it does not.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
That wouldn't leave a lot of room for plot development.
Enough for the Rocky franchise, yes, but still…
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I feel bad. Let me try to rectify.
And if SBN won’t let you open in a new window. I tried.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
the Rambo, Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill vids are pretty good too.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I guess I should've asked before
I started calling him Boog (what can I say, I’m a follower), but where does the Boog meme come from?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
It's been his nickname for a long time, I think
His parents were fans of Boog Powell or something
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
This is the correct answer.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
also, apparently he was rather oversized for a baby.
hence the nickname… it outgrew him, or something.
He does like his bbq ribs, though.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
funnily enough, he doesn't seem to respond to "Boog"
maybe from family only
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
how could he not realize that's what we all call him?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
'cause last I heard, he's not on the internets.
remember how everyone wanted him to get on Twitter?
besides… it’s “The Boog”, not Boog. the memesplanation for it is that we used to have 3 Ryans, and it was easier to type. very good TUI score.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and also, whichever family member updated his wiki page.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
his wiki page says "has dabbled in pitching"
If only…
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
that's what he's been trying to tell them.
clearly we should start a petition.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
his Baseball Reference page needs to say
Brendan Wood Ryan (Boog or The Boog)
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
nah
it’s more of a VEB thing without “The”
and if it’s “The”, it’s more of a private family thing.
his teammates have bestowed several nicknames on him. I think Goold knows all of them. not that you can search P-D anymore.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what was it, ryno, b-ry and what else..?
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
something rabbity
and there was yet another one this year… maybe.
I tend not to repeat the clubhouse nicknames, because they’re hopelessly bad. (Ryno is a cubbie aaaaauuuggghhh.)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
family nickname...
his older brothers always called him boog/ er booger or some such thing. If I recall my boog lore correctly his (much) older brothers essentially raised him
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
this is not at all true.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
you're both right
Before the start of the 2005 season, Jim Ryan died at age 62. [..] Ryan said Paul, 15 years his elder, has “picked up where dad left off” as a confidant and guide and that his father’s lessons still follow him.
As does the nickname his father gave him. It was Jim Ryan who saw a pudgy baby Brendan and likened him to bulky slugger Boog Powell. “The Boog” was the nickname that became part of the family’s lingo, as in: “When is The Boog’s game today?” [..] Fourteen years younger than his closest sibling, Ryan vied for the spotlight by impressing his brother’s friends with athletic feats.
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
His dad passing 5 years ago
does not make his older brother essentially raised him even remotely true. Everything I’ve read has indictaed that the Ryan’s were a very tight family.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
and by the way
because it seems like Ryans are very talkative, this is all publicly available information. none of it was heard at a bar.
so don’t anybody get any ideas.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I misremembered parts of the story...
sorry for the errant (unintentional) implication that the Ryan’s weren’t a close family. I just remembered hearing that his brother was serving in some fashion as a father figure, to whom Boog was very close.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
that's how i perceived what you said
that’s why i didn’t feel the need to dissect every word
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
that is how rumors get started, though.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
speaking of which
what happened to the stalker fanpost you’ve promised on more than one occasion?
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
got busy
it’s one step away from a rough draft, but as with the glossary, I need uninterrupted time, rather than the little spurts I’ve been getting.
in bed.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
then stop fuckin hanging out in the daily thread
and do something useful
in bed.
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
I only hang out here in spurts
is what I’m saying
it only seems continuous because I have other tabs and I type fast
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
well my apologies...
not the intent
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
no worries
boog lore is a worthy and entertaining study.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Thanks Ya'll
Much appreciated!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
since we are on the subject of memesplanation,
where did ludriguez-wick come from? I understand the -wick…
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
d-dee?
do you have the screencap?
tell me you have the screencap. wait, let me search for it.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
any explanations as to the reason for "Ludriguez"?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
SEE: D-DEE.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
manstew fun i suppose
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
that plate was on the road wasn't it?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
visiting clubhouse
(aka we can always blame the cubs)
I’ve seen screenshots of the guys defacing the “State Farm” sticker at Wrigley to spell something else, though. it must be a thing.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
heh
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
guess you guys want to see what the redbird man stew did, eh?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by the way, straussie has set his clock to midnight next week
for the bullpen coach thing.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
aaaaaargh, why you no take precaution?
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
'cause it's next week
also, that’s a pegacorn.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
you're a pegacorn
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
all 8 inches
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
hey there! take 'er easy!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
It's better with bacon
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
everything is better with bacon...especially Kevin Bacon
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
indeed
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I would like to photgraph myself eating one of those.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Not bacon. But you can get one of these bad boys in Sauget.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Also just because...
(Warning: despite my best efforts, no opening in new window)
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
If nothing else, it allowed one more game to be played in Busch II.
"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.
by The Continental on Oct 29, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
the mang ! that was the best .
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.
by riftraftredbird on Oct 29, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
God that slider just seems to be aimed at Mang's bat.
And Brad Lidge also attached his soul to that pitch. Pujols ruined both.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Called it
This has to be the most called home run in history. I told my wife that Lidge would hang a slider and Albert would hit the train tracks.
Is this mutual calling of the shot a once in a lifetime phenomenon or is it just the epic ridiculousness that is Albert Pujols?
by WizardofOz1982 on Nov 3, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
so FSNMW is back on Dish
why the dance?…
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
hey, I need some non-official lawyerly advice
and mostly because of the math, otherwise I could explain this to them myself. It’s like some fiendish word problem, and I likely need more coffee.
“Payments must be received by midnight of December 31 or will be considered delinquent and subject to late charges. If mailed, payments must be postmarked by the United States Postal Service no later than blah blah blah. Late payments are subject to 2% interest per month, or any portion thereof, with a maximum of 18% per year, plus a 2% penalty.”
So is that 20% of the tax amount, or 20% of the original property value?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'm no lawyer but to me it means 20% of the tax amount . been there
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.
by riftraftredbird on Oct 29, 2010 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
that's what i thought
i’m not generally relied-upon on matters of math, it seems. probably wise.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Local news here in SF says that Panda is the DH i guess thats no shocker.
I hope the Cake gif shows up every time he bats .
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.
by riftraftredbird on Oct 29, 2010 11:06 PM EDT reply actions
Gosh guys, it's after 9 AM on a Saturday morning and there's like, no content anywhere
What gives.
I mean, wow VEB has spoiled me and I have become totally dependent on it for my morning routine.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
morning routine
lunch break, during class routine, during work routine, i am bored outta my mind routine…
i need to get some friends..
nah, too much work, not enough baseball
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
"not enough baseball"
Now there’s a motto.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
My Saturday wishes
1) Mizzou wins at Nebraska (sorry for the handegg speak)
2) I don’t die in a terribly painful way.
That is all…
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Handegg keeps pulling me in. I've stopped fighting it finally.
I really hope Mizzou wins.
I would also prefer to not die painfully.
Moar handegg: The Rams are retiring Bruce’s number tomorrow. I find myself trying to come up with reasons to extra-hope they win. They’re playing the Carolina Panthers, who remind me of the Jacksonville Jaguars. They’re both boring wild cat sports team names. If I remember correctly, the Jaguars were the expansion team chosen to be created instead of the St. Louis Stallions (another boring choice, as there were already the Colts and the Broncos. Can we get some more interesting team names please?) and I will always hold it against Jacksonville a little bit because of that. So, beat those pseudo-team stealers, Rams!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Isaac Bruce was one of my favorite players.
of any sport, all time. He (along with Kurt, Marshall and Torry) made football a watchable sport in StL for a few years.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
The Warner-Faulk-Bruce-Holt offense was a thing of pure sports beauty.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Go, go, go you purple Stallions!
"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
what time is that game and is it televized?
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Depends on which game.
MU game is at 230 central, on ABC or ESPN, depending on where you’re located.
Rams game is at 12 central, probably not broadcast outside of StL/Charlotte viewing area.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
So the White Sox want to trade for Colby Rasmus
with a package “centered around Carlos Quentin”. This must be one of those surprisingly boring “centers” kinda like the eye of a hurricane, since the last two years Quentin has played like a Ryan Ludwick with slightly better hitting and terrible defense, with Fangraphs putting him at 0.0 and -0.4 WAR for 2010 and 2009, respectively. He is younger and cheaper than I thought though.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
don't give links or anything..
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Oops
I only saw it on the Rotoworld sidebar on the front page. I think this is the source, from the Chicago Sun Times.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
rumors like that make me irrationally angry
like this and the pujols-howard shit etc
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Well, I totally believe that the White Sox have made this offer
But if MO accepts an offer like this he should be fired on the spot. Unless the rest of the package has awesome prospects in it. This isn’t gonna happen, has very, very little chance of happening. Doesn’t technically make it a “rumor”, it just means it’s an unrealistic idea.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
yep.
if Mo agrees to this he his dead to me. D-E-D dead!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
courtesy of Men In Tights via d-dee (a few threads ago)
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
i like you a little more just for recognizing the source
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
trust me, i'm as unlikable as ever.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I make that reference almost reflexively now.
Then I start talking about going to the dentist and they left these cotton balls on my mouth. I will take these cotton balls with my hand! And put them. In my pocket!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
ahaha
your lizard seems kinda limp
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
in bed
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.
by riftraftredbird on Oct 30, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
These? These are my most trusted associates.
On my right, Dirty Ezio. On my left, Filthy Luca.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
d-e-d huh?
heh heh
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
we really don't need another talent with mental issues, enough already
Then there’s Quentin. The Sox love his raw talent but are concerned about his capacity to grind out an entire season without beating himself up mentally. A team source said Quentin planned to again visit with a life coach this offseason so he could ‘’start having some fun in the game.’’
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
a Tony La Russa team will fix that right up!
oh wait.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 30, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So let's see...
…Deal 24 year old who’s a little immature (so it seems) but has nowhere to go but up in terms of talent for an older guy who’s a full fledged headcase and had one elite season and…
Oh and he’s a corner outfielder, meaning the Cards would have to hope Jay could be a full time ML CFer. If this trade happens I may drive to Busch, try to find Mozeliak and LaRussa and club them both. Mo for making that trade and LaRussa for not being able to suck it up and deal with Rasmus’s imperfections.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 30, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
club them like baby seals
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 30, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
ok before we all run off to destroy Cardinal FO
Remember where this came from-Straussie. If it was mentioned at all it was probably as a joke.
(white sox #1) Hehehehe I wonder if we could get the Cardinals to take Quentin off our hands. We could trade him for Colby Rasmus.
(white sox #2) Dream on. That ain’t ever gonna happen.
Not to say that TLR and FO don’t deserve at times to be clubbed in the head. I have wanted to do that a time or two myself.
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
yeah i saw that on the side bar right before the internet brought me to this page
all i really saw was “Carlos Quentin” and “Colby Rasmus”…
I made an audible groan. Then I read it. The last sentence was nice.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
even the unicorns think this
is silly
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
let me help with that
JoeStrauss: Quentin for Raz’ stuff been percolating since end of season. According to one Cardinal FO type: “Gotta do better than that.” #Fail
twitter stuff gets lost after a while and we’re trying to preserve knowldge for the ages you know…
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
thanks wasn't aware of the twit link issue
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
not really an issue
but it reads easier and the blockquote stays even when links go dead
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
shouldn't he be untouchable
@Drawnitsud Again, teams under false assumption Mo’ prepared to dump Raz’. Not the case. But neither is he untouchable.
by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 30, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Fun post for the hell of it:
Blue/Orange contrast is everywhere. It’s everywhere!
Also, an awesome historical baseball image:
I don’t know if this is the official inspiration for the Padres logo or not, but it’s perfect.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
how many of those boys later grabbed the bat and beat the shit out of "father Fattso". sorry
weird alter boy memories surfacing
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.
by riftraftredbird on Oct 30, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
cool pic though
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.
by riftraftredbird on Oct 30, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
He's not necessarily a Father
He could be Brother Fattso.
Besides, they look like they’re having plenty of fun watching him whiff. No violent assault necessary. But those were simpler times.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
yeah its a very cool shot
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.
by riftraftredbird on Oct 30, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
would you trade Rasmus to get Ludwick back ? just askin....not serious
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.
by riftraftredbird on Oct 30, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
there are 3 or maybe 4 OF in all of MLB
I would trade straight up for 5 years of a LH CF with power and luddy is not on that list
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
how about Torres ? too old ?
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.
by riftraftredbird on Oct 30, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Torres would be great as long as they threw in Posey
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
what are we gonna do with posey?
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
oh I imagine he can play 2nd
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
he's also a lights out closer
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.
by riftraftredbird on Oct 30, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
can't we just trade for b-weesy
and put the boog-bombs-beard-cheese show on tv?
if that happens i don’t even care about the baseball
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
Steps
1) Collect Boog, Bombs, Beard, Cheez
2) Make them live together
3) Film it
4) Train monkey to joust
5) Profit
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Oct 30, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
trade colby for torres/posey and then film Colby in SF...now thats a show
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.
by riftraftredbird on Oct 30, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
bumgarner and rasmus show?
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
show about best gifts for gf?
…wait for it.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 30, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
in bed
boom!
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
it's even funnier if you know what they got their SOs
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 30, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey d-dee how does 2nd place taste?
in yo face!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
wow, I'm not going there...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 30, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point.
Them just jokes.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
DO. NOT.
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
i.can't.stop!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
so... right now... while you're on VEB.... uh...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 30, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
not sure if i should rec...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 30, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
also for searching
the key word is sitcom
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 30, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
new sitcom
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
by d-dee on Oct 30, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
i'm shocked you found one of colby smiling
good work
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i stole it
that’s “smile engage” from the gs fanpost
i thought it’s a better bet than google
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
this could be misinterpreted easily
four guys and a camcorder makes you really happy and need towels….
that would be a kick-ass show though
by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 30, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Gay towels too.
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.
by riftraftredbird on Oct 30, 2010 3:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
why the F is this not green?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I've been away fro VEB for awhile
but when in the hell did Torres become something special?
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
by mattyfrommo on Oct 30, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
since painguy ruined him and then he recovered
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.
by riftraftredbird on Oct 30, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
since we found out him and Pujols share the same hitting coach
our very own oleary
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
since he put up 6 war this year
Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have? Frank Chance 1908
how in the hell is his WAR higher than Colby's?
almost all defensive, huh?
I’m still not sold.
And there’s no way I’d trade Colby for a 32 year old Torres.
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
by mattyfrommo on Oct 30, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
watch him play today
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.
by riftraftredbird on Oct 30, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
wouldn't change my mind
and I’ve yet to watch a single out of the 2010 postseason
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
it's been one of the better non-Cardinal postseasons without a doubt
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 30, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
that"s what I've heard
it’s gonna be my first non-baseball watching postseason, I’m getting myself prepared to skip the 2011 season, just in case Mo gets more boneheaded.
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
by mattyfrommo on Oct 30, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Neither would I
I do like Torres though.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
the Rasmus trade talk was just put together to create maximum hot stove usage.
"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 30, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
The Mythbusters are starting the wave at the Rally to Restore Fear.
I don’t know whether to be appalled or amused.
"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2010 12:41 PM EDT reply actions
it's science.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 30, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Stand back, they have a seismometer and they know how to use it.
"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
the most expensive miners joke ever.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Cat Stevens vs. Ozzy Osborne.
Wow.
"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
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