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Dave Duncan and Mark McGwire

I might be doing my math wrong, but if Dave Duncan ends up coaching through the 2013 mutual option he got in yesterday's contract extension he will have been a pitching coach in the same La Russa regime for 30 years, which is pretty incredible. I think he's earned it, but whether he's helped or not it shows just how important it is for a pitching or a hitting coach to have a clearly defined plan. 

Dave Duncan has the clearest plan this side of Leo Mazzone, whose memoirs will be titled Throw It Over There Until They Call It A Strike, and—saying nothing of its effectiveness—it makes it easy to craft a narrative around the team that benefits him when things go well and when they go poorly. When average pitchers pitch well it's because they've bought into the plan, and when they pitch poorly it's because they're off it—sometimes, like with Todd Wellemeyer, these are both true of the same pitcher at the same time. When the Cardinals have a great season it's because he's a meticulous planner, and when they have a terrible one it's because the personnel was either incompetent or unwilling to buy into the system. 

That makes me sound more skeptical than I am. Let me say this: I can describe that thought process as though I'm outside of it, but at the same time I completely buy into it myself. When Todd Wellemeyer pitches well, I think: He's always had the stuff, and now Dave Duncan has the gameplan. When he falls apart, I'm convinced he's a blockhead with a good fastball who will never understand what it is that might make him successful. (The only exceptions here are clearly capable young pitchers who flame out inside the Duncan Zone, like Anthony Reyes.)

So I'm glad Dave Duncan's back; I believe he's effective but I can't prove it. If nothing else it gives the Cardinals an organizing principle for their minor league free agents, one-year deal guys, et cetera. I can't know how much Duncan has helped Adam Wainwright or Chris Carpenter or Jaime Garcia, but when Mozeliak have to throw things at the wall for their fifth starter every year I'm at least confident that he has some idea of who might stick.

Star-divide

I was a real Mark McGwire optimist last year, and for the same reason; as someone who had had a much-publicized conversion experience about hitting halfway through his career, and come out of it a much more disciplined hitter, I thought he might have some easily digestible organizing principle for all his hitting instruction. And if the Cardinals had hit as well as we expected they would last year, I might not have noticed it was missing.

Instead, they struggled, and McGwire came out of it seeming unsure of what his main point was—much of what he said seemed conventional and kind of muddled, and the only way in which he distinguished himself in year one was his conviction that the team was over-reliant on watching video. That might eventually be his Pitch-To-Contact!, but as a new coach he didn't seem to own the team's hitting approach in the same way Duncan sets the pitching tone. In that sense, he was difficult to evaluate—and disappointing, really, for that reason alone. 

I'm fine with giving him another year, but I will say this: I'm a little pissed that he didn't do any pinch-hitting in September. But a new opportunity has opened up: Next year they can sign Kerry Robinson as the bullpen coach and then bring McGwire in to pinch-run in a crucial situation. 

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I was hoping to get through the year without thinking about Todd Wellemeyer

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 7:20 AM EDT reply actions  

yes the gob hate you personally

their list goes like that

Cardinals
Y2S
VEB
Nationals
Pirates

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 26, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's quite a place of honor for Y2S

I would think he’d take some pride in that

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 26, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

so does veb then earn the next place on the list...

by virtue of Y2S’s proliferation on the blog? I mean really that’s some pretty strong animosity against us. Damned little boggers.

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 26, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

what i wanna know is how does d-dee come by this information...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

she is an

omnifarious, omnipotence, omniscient incarnation. She is a demiGOB sent her as a secret agent to fully ascertain our worst fears, in the furtherance of the GOB agenda.

the above statement is exhibit 12c

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 26, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

where do you keep the other exhibits

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

in Patrick Fitzgerald's office...

She is still under investigation… We apparently haven’t paid enough to play. Exhibit one is that she is not of this world.

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 26, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

wait so if i apply for citizenship

this will come back in my background check?
are you trying to get another year of aaron miles? are you?!?

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 26, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

no

not if you do this…

I’m just sayin’

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 26, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

i already have a green card

which is yellow

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 26, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

that makes me feel

blue

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 26, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exhibit 1

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 26, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always wondered

what D-Dee looked like

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 26, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

400 lbs, bald, crooked teeth and a tail

that will teach you to wonder

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 26, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

A tail?

Awesome, she’s a furrie!

I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson

by Solanus on Oct 27, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

She's not the only one...

;=8)

Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 27, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cows aren't furry.

Unless you’re talking about a scottish highlander and they could almost pass as such.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

furry

the noun
and if you want to be traumatized, you’ll google that.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

DON"T DO IT!!!!!

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 27, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

who dat

she fine

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 26, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sarah Roemer

she’s not even the 2nd best looking actress on the show though, IMO.
1. Taylor Cole
2. Lisa Vidal
3. Sarah Roemer

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 26, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

d-dee is heavily airbrushed?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought everything on the internet was real

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 26, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't look down.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 26, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

unless you're on the internet

but you shouldn’t picture it

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i here this show is completely awful

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 26, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Compared to Lost, yes

compared to most other tv thrillers, i don’t think it is bad

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 26, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

network television is a disgrace

the best network television shows get crushed under the might of mediocrity. look at where Parks and Recreation is now and where Community is headed.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 26, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arrested Development would also like a word.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 26, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

THIS

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 26, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

and look at what happened to Arrested Development

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 26, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

um isn't parks and rec taking a break b/c amy poehler just had a baby

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 26, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

it got turned into a midseason replacement.

thats why ken tremendous has time to do stuff like a Fire Joe Morgan day at deadspin.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 26, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHERE IS COMMUNITY HEADED?

that’s the BEST show!

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 26, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

check the ratings.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 26, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i happen to agree though

the most recent ep blew my fucking mind.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 26, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's OK, really, honest, trust me

OK, yes i’m a little worried, but TBBT is getting like 15Million watching them, if that wasn’t on at the same time Community would easily be getting 10+million watching them. nbc says the ratings are where they expect them to be & they are happy it’s not doing worse. it gets a lot of DVR’s viewers remember & a lot of online viewers too.

this week is a big test for it though because it will be on at 8:30 up against that shit my dad shits or whatever abomination of a TV show thats called. hopefully it will be a huge pick up in viewers. if so, they might move it to 8:30 where it will get the viewers it deserves.

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 26, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really hope you just get to buy access to a season of a show for a small amount of money

I don’t see why they couldn’t do that, since you are not owning a copy of it, you should be able to just pay to have access to that one show, I think cable will probably go in that direction once it is more on par with the internet

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's a good idea

then instead of commercials they could actually have 30min to full hours of programming rather than 22min & 43min of programming.

of course they’d probably have a crap ton of product placements which would suck.

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 27, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I mean, people have products, it’s not like it has to be that obvious of a product placement

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 27, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

right, just have name brands facing the camera

it’s not like a character has to walk in & say

“i just got a great deal on a brand new Mercedes-Benz. and after that i went to the Apple store & got a new IPad & Inosepicker. then i went to Trader Joe’s & got a 50lb bag of Cheeto’s. then i went to Starbucks for a cincoshothazelnutvanillanofathalffoamlate. then i stopped by Arby’s for some curly fries & finally i used my Blackberry Tourch3 to orde some Poppa John’s pizza while we watch the generic sporting event on our brand new Sony Plasma HDTV.”

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 27, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

just the fact that fuckin Big Bang Theory destroys it every week in the ratings

says a lot about how fucking stupid people are

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 26, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think TBBT is funny, but it's a completely

different show than Community. and thus i think it has a totally different audience. TBBT is the more tradition 3 camera sitcom comedy that everyone is used to. whereas Community is this off the wall, can’t really put a label on it comedy. people who watch it really have sit down & pay attention to whats going on or they’ll miss a lot of the story. heck i have to watch it two or three times just to get all the inside jokes & humor. and even then i miss some of it. you don’t have to do that with TBBT, you can leave it on & surf the web, cook dinner, hang with friends or your sig other (obvy this doesn’t include me) & you’ll still get the gist of the story.

so in a way you’re right, people that watch Community are “smarter” than TBBT fans.

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 27, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

i can't stand it

the laugh track drives me crazy

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 27, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's unfair... a show's script is written knowing whether or not it has a laugh track

And the actors… act, based on whether or not it has a laugh track

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 27, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

parks and rec is fun now but it started off really slow

and is way too close in tone and structure to the office. I had a hard time giving it a chance and I am the biggest fan of the office to ever run viva el birdos.

by DanUpBaby on Oct 26, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

o....well i never gave it a chance

so i never bothered to revisit after a few views

by guillermozeliak on Oct 26, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

a friend of mine became a parks and rec superfan during season two

so I felt obligated. I’m still not totally invested in it, but it’s better.

by DanUpBaby on Oct 26, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

do it for Ken Tremendous!

also, its better than The Office, which i could never get into.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 26, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

this season of the Office

is reversing the serious downward trend it’s been on the last few seasons. Which is to say, I have actually laughed when watching it. Community is still better, though.

by mattyp on Oct 27, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

er, hear, that is.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 26, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The newest episode entitled loyalty is on hulu as of today

The very last sequence is worth watching for the cinematography alone. The special effects are neat, but the continuous camera shot is very cool. I’ve never seen anything like that before. Usually in action scenes you get half-second clips from numerous angles spliced together to give the viewer the thrilling feeling, but this tops it all, a continuous roving camera shot (the only thing I can compare it to is the 3D camera angle change they do on MNF sometimes) as they are escaping. If you’re not a fan of The Event I’d recommend just fast-forwarding to the last segment. The scene I’m talking about is in the last 2 minutes or so.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 26, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I might be somewhere farther down on that list

It’s not anywhere close to February and I have to work every day. :(

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 26, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

so you want GOB hate?

consider World Series ring eligibility.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

So it is Y2S's fault!

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 26, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

the F? how did i not make thier hit list? i'm the one who gave them their bastards nickname

f’ing bastards

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 26, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

shouldn't Pirates be a little higher than that?

or maybe Pirates fans would be more accurate. or how about the Marlins or Rays, since they have no fans?

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

a) that is not the complete list

b) i don’t question the rankings, i only deliver them

also, the Marlins have Steve

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 27, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would you prefer references to Mike Maroth or Estaban Yan?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Oct 27, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

so last night....i had a nightmare...

I dreamed I was watching the news and Frank Cusumano was interviewing Aaron Miles, who had just agreed to a 3 year contract extension for the Cardinals. Frank was doing his usual “you gotta love a guy who doesn’t have as much talent, but works harder than anyone else” routine. Miles was saying how much of an honor it was to play for Tony and was thrilled to continue his career with the Cardinals.

I just remember yelling, “No! No! Noooooo!!!!” I then woke up to a thunderstorm scared to death over what the hell just happened. It seemed so real that I just about got on my computer to make sure it wasn’t. Scary as hell.

by hockeyno93 on Oct 26, 2010 9:32 AM EDT reply actions  

That sucks

I had a dream before the 2009 season that we traded Troy Glaus for Jair Jurrjens. I was really, really hoping it was true. I was kinda sad when it wasn’t.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 26, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

that storm...

obliterated a concrete street light pole in my companies front parking lot. As for Aaron Miles.. I wish you hadn’t said that, what with the personal animosity which the GOB seem to nurture for VEB.

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 26, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Forgot to close my south facing windows last night

woke up at 4:30 with a window screen in my front room, large puddles in it and my bedroom, a wet and hopefully not ruined vintage radio, and one scared dog.

That storm kicked ass!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Oct 26, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

We were supposed to get 70 mph winds

and record low barometric pressure in Chicago, but I don’t think we got either.

Wind was bad before dawn, but not 70 mph. Loud enough to wake the kids up. By the time I got downtown (8:30am) it was just a light/medium wind. Nothing big.

by sdrone on Oct 26, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was disappointed

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 26, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i left my bedroom window, which faces west, open today & when i got home my room was soaked

i also had a weird dream, but will not share it with you all

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 26, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

The radio still works!

The dog is an asshole again!

Hooray!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Oct 26, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duncan and 2013

Who will be pitching for the Cardinals in 2013. Will Shelby Miller be in St. Louis? Carlos Matias (grumble…grumble I know his name has changed).

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 26, 2010 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

I actually do wonder how Carlos feels about the name change

I mean, the story is that his uncle raised him so he was going by his uncle’s last name, right? There’s gotta be some emotional connection there. It must be weird to have to change back as a near-adult.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 26, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

well it costs about $50 to change it legally

so he can easily change it back, if he wants.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Oct 26, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess that's true

But that would just further confuse things. “I know Fangraphs has me as Martinez, but I’m back to Matias now, honest!”

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 26, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would hope would be in St. Louis by 2012-2013

If not he’ll be really close.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 26, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

He will be recovering from Tommy John.

Seriously, were you trying to jinx us, Evil?

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 26, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Quick poll for my amusement

Which was a better movie: Shutter Island or Inception? Your answer will determine how I look at you for the rest of your lives and possibly the afterlife as well.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 26, 2010 10:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Shutter Island

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Oct 26, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 26, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dirty Work.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Oct 26, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shutter Island

My wife will throw in a vote as well.

by sdrone on Oct 26, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

Inception sucked

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 26, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I preferred Inception.

Shutter Island was good, and Inception was hyped up beyond belief, but in comparison to one another I still preferred Inception. People pointed out that Inception, while creative, did recycle various elements from other movies, but under the same scrutiny Shutter Island is just a better version of The Machinist (and Avatar is Fern Gully with furries). Shutter was better acted, but I just found Inception more interesting.

"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy

by hazel on Oct 26, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

avatar...

being Fern Gully with furries. Now that’s funny, never thought of it that way.

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 26, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think spants called that one

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I heard "Fern Gully with Smurfs" a lot too.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 26, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd throw in a question about Inception

but I don’t want to spoil anything. My wife and I got home and couldn’t remember what the spinning top was supposed to prove.

by sdrone on Oct 26, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

didn't actually prove anything...

that’s what was so frustrating about it. if they’d let the camera hang around another 20 seconds…

capital letters suck.

by soccerfreak on Oct 26, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a darn thing

And that’s the point! We’re supposed to create for ourselves what exactly happened in front of us. Cobb was dreaming some of the time or the whole time or at different times or whatever… who knows!

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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 26, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll just read some 1960s science fiction and call it a day.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

it depends on what makes a “better” movie.

Inception was much more entertaining and interesting, and had a remarkable ability to keep my attention for 2.5 hours.

Shutter Island had better acting and I’m a sucker for twist endings.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 26, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

did anyone notice the fact that there isn't an actual story here?

its just a big assed concept and some neat cinematography.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 26, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't see either one

what does that mean for the way you look at me?

by DanUpBaby on Oct 26, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

you are dead to him

dead. d-e-d dead

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 26, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Neither did I

Our existence must lie along a different space-time wavelength or something, making judgments into the afterlife impossible.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 26, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me niether.

If Carrot Top isn’t in it, I’m not seeing it.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Oct 26, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

this

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 26, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

ditto

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 26, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw Shutter Island the day after I saw Inception

I kept thinking “dude just dunk yourself in water and you’ll wake up.” and “where’s all the acrobatic gunfights with wire tricks?”

That being said. I think I liked Inception more. But Shutter Island was pretty great. Scorsese is making me like Leonardo DiCaprio, which is saying something.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 26, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Inception was better by a substantial margin

It at least tried to do something original with an old concept, the whole “what’s reality”? conundrum. Shutter Island did it in a much more derivative fashion, I thought . I thought it was a better and more interesting movie before it started delving into that area. In fact, I kind of hated Shutter Island by the end.

by mattyp on Oct 26, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Inception

IMO

Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 26, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never saw Shutter Island

Wanted to, but never did.

Inception… Now, I really liked Inception.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 26, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks i just stayed up till 2 in the morning watching shutter island

i thought it was going to be scarier, but i am not complaining…. still need to see inception though…

by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 27, 2010 3:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shutter Island

Inception just tried way to hard… imho

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 26, 2010 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

reply fail

shun me

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 26, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

charrrrrrlllliiiieeeee

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Candy Mountain!

Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 26, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

We'll send you to...

Wait for it…

Shunner Island.

I’ll be here all week.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Oct 26, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

(are we still doing that?)

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Oct 26, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was thinking that

that comment needed some sunglasses and a YEAAAAAHHHH!

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 26, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I might be inviting blog-wrath by opening the floodgates, but what the hell:

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 26, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

that is soooo last season....

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 26, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, I know

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 26, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

greenage

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 26, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping

in year 2, McGwire will have a much larger effect. His hitting approach should really help Colby find some consisitency.

As for the rest of the lineup, obviously just leave Pujols and Holliday alone. Ryan and Shcumaker can’t possibly have that kind of bad luck 2 years in a row. Yadi should get more rest, wich can’t hurt his hitting at all.

If he can teach Craig to lay off the breaking stuff away, then I think he can be a very productive major league player too.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 26, 2010 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Depends

on whether his effect is for better or worse…

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He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.

by StanTheManFan on Oct 26, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

what's the over under for

the announcement that the cardinals have retained the services of Jake Westbrook being made yet this week?

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 26, 2010 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

this week is supposed to be the solve the bullpen coach situation week

i expect player signings after the end of the ws

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 26, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

kind of hope he doesn;t

mult-year with contracts on board now means unlikely to be any openings for current minor leaguers
i suspect we’d be better off having an open competition every year for 5th starter among our milb players
if we can’t do that then luhnow and jmo have failed

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 26, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree about the 5th spot competition

When we don’t have a 5th starter. But that spot is already reserved for Lohse. We need a solid 4th guy.

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 26, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, even if he does sign, they won't announce it

until after the World Series.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Oct 26, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paul the octopus died

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

One wonders if he saw it coming.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 26, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I assume he saw it coming.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Oct 26, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

freaking spanish bastards

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 26, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's right... Paul is dead

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

THAT'S what the Beatles were talking about!

Ringodamus!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 26, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Paul is dead, miss him, miss him

Everything thinks Paul dies while paying too much attention to a lovely meter maid named Rita instead of the road, but it turns out that he unwisely stole a bucket from The Walrus. The Walrus went down Bluejay Way, eventually finding Paul the Octopus’s garden and getting revenge.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 26, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

what the hell am i looking at?

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 26, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

what the wat?

Something about a pussycat, kikoman, and showing me and you

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 26, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Threadjack

You are all winners!

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 26, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

blech

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Oct 26, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

likelihood that...

Selig will write his final epitaph and sediment his legacy during this next round of collective bargaining by somehow fudging the negotiations and creating a repeat of ’94?

Considering I’m not fond of the old chap… I will withhold my answer

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 26, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

No me gusta...

"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.

by pattimagee on Oct 26, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Selig!
“We have less teams than any other sport,” he [SELIG] said last month. “We certainly haven’t abused anything.”

Stop comparing it to other sports. The NFL has 50% more playoff spots and 90% fewer games. NBA and NHL – 50% fewer games and 100% more spots.

I always thought the reason we played so many games was to ensure that the best teams rose to the top. Sure the playoffs are a crapshoot, but at least its nearly always good teams (I preferred the NLCS only, but whatever, Wild Card is here to stay so I’m not going to fight that).

by lightbulb on Oct 26, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nicely said

Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Oct 26, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

deeeeelicious

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 26, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

FACT

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

My first green!

I feel redeemed from the absurdity which is Life.

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Oct 26, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't become a rec whore now, mkay?

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 26, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

we're all whores, d-dee

and I thought for sure alberich had scored a green before. hmm.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

some more than other

cough mattyfrommo cough

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 26, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, how the F did that happen?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 26, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sigh...Life.

Another cancelled show that didn’t suck.

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 26, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

i remember my first green

it didn’t do much for me. same with the first few. but man the first time when it really hit me was like whoa

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 27, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

NBA is going bankrupt.....

apparently 57% of the moolah generated goes to the players (or, the play’yas), whereas in udder sports its moore like 35-40%. David Stern is moost cowcerned, and the play’yas union cowtract expires after this season. Cud have the NFL & NBA on strike, making baseball the only game in town! Well, there is hockey but who cares….
;=8)

Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 26, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, I'm a fan of one format that does expand the playoffs.

Give the division champs a day off, add 1 wild card team, and make them play a 5 game series for the right to play the #1 seed.

That would actually reward the team with the best record, instead of forcing them to play a series that is often against another division champ.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 26, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am a proponent of a similar idea

I think I heard it from Keith Law.

Add 1 wild card team, so top two non-division-winners compete in a 1-game playoff to see who plays the number one seed.

This does a couple things. It forces the wild card teams to use their #1 starter before the DS, so that the winner will have to start it’s #2 starter in the 1st game of the DS. It would also reward the division champions more like you say, Eckstreem

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 26, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly,

however it works out. 1 game or 3 game probably works better than a 5 game. I like that idea better abltrfn.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 26, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not really for it.

But I’m not really against it, as long as they don’t add a substantial amount of teams (>1), and as long as it instituted correctly. How would that be? I don’t know.

For brevity’s sake: I said nothing.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 26, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think a one-game playoff for the WC would be fun

that way the Blue Jays might have a shot at making the playoffs some years, if they are the 3rd best team in the AL.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Oct 26, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could probably dig that.

There’s been quite a few 1-game playoffs anyways. Those usually kickass.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 26, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hehehe
Union head Michael Weiner

Stupid offseason.

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Oct 26, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's complete

bastardization.

let's go bitches!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 26, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Selig is Bill Clinton

riding the good times and not making the root changes that would have been helpful. (Highlight being: why does Fox and TBS control the playoff schedule?)
Steve Alford was Aaron Miles (that’s a deep one).
Dave Duncan is Karl Rove.
These and other analogies continue to haunt me off and on.
Like for instance, Joe Morgan is Chris Matthews, the highlight being I can’t listen to either one of them because they won’t shaddup.

by the Tewk on Oct 26, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

no politics?

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 26, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does that make you a tea-bagger?

"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy

by hazel on Oct 26, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I never though I'd see the day

when someone said so explicity, that the Gold Glove Award has nothing to do with defense… I guess that is why the Bleacher Report’s writers can only aspire to a ESPN job, huh?

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 26, 2010 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Heh

Tulo’s UZR is “slightly below” Ryans, huh?
It’s not a positional MVP award. I hate voted-upon awards while simultaneously loving them.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 26, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

some poor poor reasoning..

ts ts ts ts….

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 26, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

random helpful (borderline legal) hint

on how to get rid of the Megavideo time limit

just as a precaution, install an addblock for Firefox (you should have one anyway) – Addblock Plus is excellent

go to this little website here
post the megavideo video link you want to watch under
“Link de Megavideo: (Ejemplo: …”
the /?v= part of the link must be there, you can get the link by clicking on the “//” button in the Megavideo player (third from left to right)
and click the Ver button → enjoy all day – yey!

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 26, 2010 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

i don't care for the whole complete a survey to watch

or we will annoy you by constant buffering and won’t allow you to skip forward
but thanks for the alternative

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 27, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

whoa

i dont do that survey shit…..ill use urs

by guillermozeliak on Oct 27, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice

i gave up a long time ago w/ megavideo….some guy did try to make a add-on for megavideo a while back…never worked but it was a good efffort

thx

by guillermozeliak on Oct 27, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

today is so much slower than yesterday...

Flim, haven’t you gone to anymore auctions? How is the private black market gyno practice going?

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 26, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

dude disappears for a while and then comes back as a black market doctor!

LOL

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously,

what exactly does Flim do? Do I want to know? If I found out would he have to kill me?

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 26, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

can't teel you. No. Yes.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 26, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's just a clever guy

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know he knows computer coding

he wrote all the MVP 2005 mods for PC

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 26, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

isn't it obvious

he flims flam

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 26, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wish Tony/Mo would hire Vince Coleman

as a coach to teach these guys how to not run into so many outs as we saw this season. The baserunning this year was really sloppy. Cleaning this up along with shoring up the defense would make this team much stronger than 2010.

They would be wise to have a guy like Vince at spring training. Oquendo needs to have major defensive drills with this team this spring as well….one would think. It would be nice to get a better defensive 2nd baseman and a steady glove at 3rd. Don’t think it will happen unless they replace Skip….along with finding a 3rd baseman somewhere…if Freese won’t be healthy enough to takeover.

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Oct 26, 2010 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't remember Vince being an especially skilled base runner

Just the fastest guy on the field. The guy ran himself out of a lot of mistakes. Awesomely so, I may add.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Oct 26, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe we can hire Scott Rolen to teach base-running.

But in all seriousness, Larry Walker was a great base-runner.

by spants on Oct 26, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know he considers himself an idiot-savant when it comes to hitting

and doesn’t want to be a hitting coach, but he’d be a great replacement for Joe Petini as “random guy” coach.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Oct 26, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Pettini fulfills the ever important "Looks like Ben Kingsley" role

“That’s SIR Ben Kingsley, asshole.”

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 26, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It would be nice to have Larry Walker around for so many reasons.

If only he wanted to coach…in any capacity.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 26, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

FSM, on the other hand...

VINCE!!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

VEB: Vince Employment Blog

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 26, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

can we seriously do this?

aren’t there lame petition sites?
can’t we bribe bj rains with… stuff?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

you mean with...

actually liking his articles?

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 26, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

good god, we're trying to get vince coleman a job

not curing cancer

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ok, so...

a bag of flaming dog excrement suffices?

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 26, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

SOMEONE GIVE VINCE A JOB!

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 26, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

is there a baserunning coach?

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

there will be

once our ingenious manager reshapes the game yet again and hires the first fundamentals coach. Sadly said fundamentals coach will be none other than….

You guessed it… Aaron Miles. Future quote from the Press Conference at which Tony announces his hiring… "Aaron, has always been a true professional that plays the game the right way, showing an unquantifiable amount of grit and hussle, and has in infinite and unrivaled respect for all things related to the GOB.

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 26, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really hope George Kissell returns to kill everyone responsible with perfectly bunted baseballs

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it keeps him from

playing in the field and taking at bats, I’m all for it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 26, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 26, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe loading the fireworks for post-home-run celebrations at Busch?

StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.

by StanTheManFan on Oct 26, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's difficult, actually.

the fellow doesn’t have a tv monitor up there, and he tries to shoot them off as the player touches each base. it’s a total guess with explosives.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

SOMEONE GIVE VINCE COLEMAN A JOBBLEHEAD


Oh wait he already had one.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 26, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey it's my basement!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Oct 27, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why can't I be Found Naked & Incoherent In a Trashed Hotel Room with an Escort?

it sounds like fun!

Instead I am usually found asleep on the couch with potato chip crumbs on my chest and the Simpsons on the tv with the sock puppet of looooove beside me…

:=8/

Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 26, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

leave it to the cow....

to put images in my head that won’t go away.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 26, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't picture anything on...

why do i bother

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I tried, really I did.

it was kinda like the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man in Ghostbusters.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 26, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it has something to do with your father not being famous

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

chitown...thanks for the three colors trilogy mention in yesterdays thread

i watched them all…first two were kinda crappy but the third one was very well done

i really would just recommend three colors: red….since u dont have to watch them all at once…..unlike the Millenium Trilogy

i always enjoy hearing about different films esp. foreign or underrated one’s

by guillermozeliak on Oct 26, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

no problemo :)

tbh I liked all of them, they were all rather different despite being about the same thing. that director is pretty renowned, I need to check out more of his work… I do recall Red being the best one though. White was rather clever, and Blue was the moodiest one if I recall correctly

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

and tom s. heared about them too suprisingly...id think these films

would never be heard of in the states…..i’ll def check out tom’s recommendation of The Double Life of Veronique

by guillermozeliak on Oct 26, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not so sure that he actually saw that

unless I was reading too much into the circumstances

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a damn good movie. no action though.

if you like it, check out the director’s tri-colour series. I can’t remember how to spell his name.

let's go bitches!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 27, 2010 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's the movies we were talking about

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 27, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

True dat...

Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 27, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

can we just blow our wad...

and sign Adrian Beltre?

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 26, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd rather have a starter

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

starting pitcher that is

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

well we can go ahead and do that too

I hear Cliff Lee is available.

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 26, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sooo, you're saying

that you want to blow your wad on Adrian Beltre?

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 26, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think 'e said 'our' wad

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

collectively?

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

just reading it

not picturing it

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

how are Beltre's on base skills?

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

lots of <.330obps in career

.321 .365 .553 .slash from 10
had a monster year in 04 with the dodgers.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 26, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really don't see him being a TON better than Freese (barring the ice ankles shattering)

and since he will cost a metric shit ton more, no thanks

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

hot damn look at that walk rate!

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 27, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn't walk very much, but he has power

Though he’d be going to an extreme righty-friendly home park to an offense depressant home park

I’d say he’d be a 4.0 WAR guy for us

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 26, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

doesn't sound that much better than Freese

would be an expensive insurance plan, or whatever

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

ew

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 26, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

I was poking around Stray Rescue St. Louis
they named this one Brendan

he’s a chewer

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

can he lick his shoulder?

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 26, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

And other parts

Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork

by TBender on Oct 26, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Werth problem

and it’s not the facial hair http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-jayson-werth-problem/

also, my brother says that there are rumors flying about the Cubs signing Adam Dunn. that would suck.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 7:28 PM EDT reply actions  

so what's the general consensus about Big Mac being back for another year?

I’m thinking pretty much a “meh”

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

i think if they stop listening to TLR & start listening to him, they'll be a lot better

TLR’s be aggressiveness & video addiction are huge problems & they are the reasons why the players didn’t have a lot of success last year. they got two totally different philosophy’s being preached to them & they don’t know which one to follow. so naturally they follow TLR because he’s the boss & naturally they weren’t very successful.

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 26, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

timmeh talking to the media

http://mlb.mlb.com/index.jsp

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 7:35 PM EDT reply actions  

this?

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=15424332

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

hehe

Tim said ‘blunt’

….ok, talking about Brian Wilson.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet that graphic designer

who put the orange and blue together is really glad the Rangers and Giants made it

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah
this is actually a great interview

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

world series probables

Lincecum vs Lee
Cain vs Wilson
Sanchez vs Lewis
Bumgarner vs Hunter

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

awesome

Lee
Cain
Draw (?)
Bumgarner

looks to be a good World Series, hoping for a seven game one

by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 26, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I think it should be pretty good

Rangers hitting is quite a bit better. how do the defenses stack up?

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

UZR really loves the Giants, which doesn't pass the eye test

Not sure about the Rangers

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 26, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

UZR doesn't really account for bullpen pitchers not being able to throw to the bases though

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 26, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing the Rangers kinda suck at defense

should even the playing field a little bit. Rangers are probably the better team though, if they can beat the Yanks

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

on that note

how do the bullpens stack up? (Brian Wilson and Feliz are two great closers, but the rest…)

by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 26, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice gif

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 26, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am the three time

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 26, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

you have no idea who you are talking to.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 26, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good to see ya.....

been off fightin Scots?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 26, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think you are actually cody now

the timing of your posts is ridiculously fast (and well-timed) and cody always brings you up….

otherwise you are an incredibly gifted stalker (very possible..)

by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 26, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah,he's gotta be cody

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 26, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mo? Is that you?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 26, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 26, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh...that's right.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 26, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

that cannot possibly end well.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Oct 26, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

considering the video isn't working, i agree

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 26, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 26, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is actually a really good one

unlike that “girls lockeroom” or something like that….too obvious

the youtube is actually clever

by guillermozeliak on Oct 26, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMGAD!!ONE

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 27, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

MLB 2K10

super cheap for PC.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 26, 2010 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you splurge and get the pack?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 26, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

so, Cliff Lee and his wife... do they know we make pie?
Perhaps the Rangers’ greatest sales pitch simply was having Kristen sit in the visiting family section at Yankee Stadium during the playoffs. She says there were ugly taunts. Obscenities. Cups of beer thrown. Even fans spitting from the section above.
“The fans did not do good things in my heart,” Kristen says.
“When people are staring at you, and saying horrible things, it’s hard not to take it personal.”

they later said it wasn’t a big deal, but that would be funny, now wouldn’t it.

article does go on to say Cliff Lee has put a dent in Cardinal Nation, so.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I mean seriously, nothing rattles Cliff Lee except interrupting deer hunting season

has he met half the Cardinals team????

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe we can get Adam Wainwright on this.

or Dave Duncan.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Urge to bake pies... rising...

Don’t tease us with this stuff, Y2S!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 26, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

picture this, VEB

Cliff Lee sits back there and talks about how to fuck batters up with Chris Carpenter, whilst Adam Wainwright keeps elbowing them with some crazy new handshake idea (they smile tolerably at him), and Matt Holliday grunts companionably, occasionally sharing his sunflower seeds. Albert does a pull up on the bullpen roof, trying not to count his ringless fingers with any kind of expectation — and Yadi grins at him because he knows what he’s thinking, and that Ryan Franklin will throw a knuckleball again, and that his pitching staff is so charming when they talk about fucking up batters.

Colby says something unintelligible yet ultimately profound.

Later, Frankie will show the new guy his new hunting rifles (in the parking lot), as well as the deluxe rack that can hold a wild boar.

Sometime in July, Cliff Lee considers a beard.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   5 recs

(I'd put Westy in there, but Hot Stove is ongoing... don't want to jinx anything)

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

recerific

and i cant believe i didn’t know he was from LR. dude i should totally get my uncle on this, i bet he knows his family. he knows everyone down there.

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 26, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

somehow I was composing the Franklin part in my head

and thus switched up “dugout” with “bullpen”. go me.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's like the second one you've done recently right?

you should help me write my picgasim. i’m suffering from writers block or something

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 26, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would be like me condoning it

is it really wise to combine our spamming powers? VEB might never recover

why don’t you ask someone else, like IHB

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah, we can't have that

but is it a good idea to combine IHB’s hammock powars & mine?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 27, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

there are some things I can't know

use your good judgment

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

wait, i thought the Molina's knew everything?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 27, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

the collective, yes.

not me

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will take him hunting.

We own 500 acres in Illinois. Waino can bring him down.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 27, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

wheresabout?

if you don’t mind my asking

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 27, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I still don't get

the Phils trading him THIS year. They would’ve taken it all with that rotation.

let's go bitches!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 26, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

no worries....

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's ok...

he wants to back-up his brother on a major league minimum price basis….

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Oct 26, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I can hear the conversation.

Yadi: Come play one last year with me.
Benjie: I realy don’t think I got it in me…..I really don’t want to play anymore.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 26, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

EFF off SBN.

Yadi: it’s only five or six games you’d have to play.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 26, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

but seriously

that’s why it wouldn’t work

Bengie is so very alpha dog. Mama would have to intervene eventually. it would suck for Yadi.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

LaRue at least was content to hang out with Carp and look badass.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

just relived the 1985 WS game 6 blown call

25 years ago, but still painful
argh

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 26, 2010 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

which team is a bigger bust? Dallas or the heat?

as much as it hurts, i vote Dallas. even though i never thought they were very good, they sure did have a crap ton of hype coming into the season.

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 26, 2010 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

broken collar bone sucks

can’t really predict that. but yeah, they weren’t doing that great anyway… oh well, can’t stand that team heh. sorry gdm!

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's OK, twitters & the WWL are making a huge deal about the heats lost

and even though it’s just one game, i would actually love it if they fell apart & didn’t make the playoffs.

Big D hurts though. it’s like the late 90’s all over again. they got all this talent & yet they are wasting it. ive never been a fan or had any kind of faith in Romo, but that doesn’t excuse the rest of the team for quitting when he got hurt. i don’t follow the nfl that much, but even i know Dallas had no biz losing last night. Romo or no Romo. it just sucks & it’s embarrassing as a fan who remembers the terrible teams of the 80’s, at least those guys had a good reason to lose, they sucked. but at least they never gave up & quit like this team has.

Jerry’s got a lot of work to do to fix this teams problems. and that like always when it comes to him, that’s a very bad thing.

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 27, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't really know or care about the NBA

but still… sample size!

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 27, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

ditto, but i still want them to epically fail

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 27, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

i almsot thought u were referring to the mavericks...and i was like?

but if anyone was superstitiously betting on MNF…last nights streak was broken for the winning teams: VISITORS, HOME, VISITORS, HOME, VISITORS, HOME, VISITORS, VISITORS (giants)

by guillermozeliak on Oct 27, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

at least you are not a bears fan

LOL

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 27, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

i always liked Refrigerator Perry

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 27, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had his GI Joe action figure, with the metal football on a chain

awesome

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 27, 2010 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

who beat the Heat tonight?

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 26, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

they were playing the Celtics

I know this because they were watching on the big TV in my dorm when i came in.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 27, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

big deal, they lost one game to a decent team

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 27, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

i have no opinion.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 27, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

so instead, i will reply with

this

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 27, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is why its pointless to watch reg season nba..only catch a few games

its the playoffs i watch…and w/ baseball going on i completely forgot about the big three in MIA

by guillermozeliak on Oct 27, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

IS THIS SOME SORT OF EUPHEMISM

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 27, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

the Heat's SB game thread has all of 236 comments on it.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 27, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

McGwire, Boog, and Schu: A smoking gun?

FYI, over in the McGwire on the fence thread, I posted a few quotes from an interview with McGwire in which he says some problematic things that could at least explain Boog’s recent fall-off in his hitting.

by thepainguy on Oct 27, 2010 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

since becoming familiar with sbnation

i liked our club’s Viva el Birdos name, good logo, clever, well done…easy abbrv. VEB

same w/ Turf Show Times…nice color, cool sheep lookin thing. also easy abbrv. TST

so, i decided to see what the blues are made of…o god….i initially was gonna guess “bleed blue” or something to that effect but then though otherwise (bleed cubbie…etc)

then i wouldve bet “the blue note”…w/ a nice logo…TBT..easy abbrve..but to see the uggliest mf’er and STL Game Time!! wtf…not that i care about the blues

by guillermozeliak on Oct 27, 2010 12:28 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah it's not for everybody

but don’t judge a blog by it’s horribly ugly logo.

"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" -Isaac Asimov

by jacksonian on Oct 27, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

their game threads are largely unintelligible rambling and swearing,

I’m not really a fan of it, and I don’t think Hockey really lends itself to gamethreads in the way that baseball does

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 27, 2010 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Holy Fuck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PcUSnIu0rw&feature=related

John Legend
Eric Clapton
Keith Richards
Mitch Mitchell

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 27, 2010 4:44 AM EDT reply actions  

except different in that I want to see this.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 27, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeeeech to both!

I wanna see Joe Strummer, Joey Ramone, Jello Biafra and Johnny Rotten all sing together!
:=8D

Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 27, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why did I type Legend @_@

Lennon*

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 27, 2010 4:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

there's a band called that

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 27, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no idea whether these are due to big mac's influence or not

Last week, I posted an article about overall offensive(and defensive) performance of Cardinals batters on my blog.
Link (Alert : It is written in Korean and google translator is very sloppy in translating Korean into English.)

I did the same thing last year, so I compared this year’s performance with last year’s, especially in the way of plate discipline.

2009 —> 2010

Pitch/PA 3.66(15th most in NL) —> 3.76(13th most in NL)
Swing% 48%(2nd most in NL) —> 46.8%(4th most in NL)
O-Swing% 26.8%(2nd most in NL) —> 29.6%(9th most in NL)
Swing Strike% 9.4%(4th most in NL) —> 8.2%(13th most in NL)
K% 19%(3rd least in NL) —> 18.5%(best in NL)
BB% 8.8%(12th in NL) —> 8.7%(7th in NL)

wOBA .325(8th in NL) —> .321(7th in NL)

After a quick n’ dirty look, It seems like Cardinals batters, as a group, have become relatively more patient and selective hitters in the league. In this year, they saw more pitches, hacked less and drew more BBs than last year. There was no drastical change in their lineup between 2009 and 2010. Does Big Mac deserve some credit for these positive changes?

Cardinals fan from Korea

by FreeRedbird on Oct 27, 2010 6:17 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I think you can credit McRae for not being there

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2010 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cool.

I like Mac and I think that at the very worst he is basically a hitting non-factor and a clubhouse distraction, which is better than say, McRae who seemed to be actively hurting the team offense.

"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy

by hazel on Oct 27, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

A classic twitter mistake

http://twitter.com/CardsInsider/status/28893228373

Shorten “morning” to “A.M.”, and you won’t have to say “Ur” like a texting illiterate. Amateurs.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2010 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

it got worse later in the day

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

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