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An AFL update and an ALCS open thread

 

More Arizona Fall League hijinks have ensued since last we were disappointed by Zack Cox's sombrerified debut. Good news: He didn't strike out four times. He struck out one time, which would be bad news if he didn't also double and drive in a run. It's difficult to get much out of AFL numbers, but I'm hoping to see Cox do well enough that the Cardinals have an excuse to be aggressive with his promotion schedule.

Of course, they don't necessarily need an excuse. Pete Kozma, who was moved to AA as a 21 year-old with a career OPS under .700, has gone 1-4 in each of his first two AFL games, with what was apparently a fielder-aided triple.

Star-divide

Kozma—well, he improved last season, but it's hard for me to see his path to the Major Leagues given his career to this point. He showed off a little power last season, but not enough to make anybody forget he's a career .243 hitter who doesn't walk especially often. He's a good baserunner and a rangy but impressively error-prone shortstop. 

As was stated when he was drafted, no one tool of Kozma's stands out, but the tool baseline, to date, has been significantly lower than was expected, and now that purported all-around competence is his problem; when Tyler Greene appeared to have busted just as totally he always had the tools to wish on. HPGF members could always look to his throwing arm, or his outstanding speed, or his surprising home run power, but Kozma doesn't have anything to show for not playing well. He'll be 23 next season, no longer young or inexperienced for AA. The Cardinals didn't him wrong by promoting him so aggressively, but it doesn't matter whose fault it was—he'll have to make a drastic improvement in 2011 to get back on the prospect radar. 

The other interesting AFL prospect is outfielder Adron Chambers, who has probably angled himself toward a 2011 cup of coffee after beginning his career as a 38th rounder in the Kozma draft. Chambers found his way into my heart in perhaps the purest way a prospect can do it—by throwing a gaudy, fluky stat into his career line. In 2009 Chambers, to that point a one-tool speed guy, hit just one home run but managed to push his slugging percentage (in the pitcher-happy Florida State League) past .400, thanks to 17 doubles and 16 triples.

17 doubles, 16 triples, one home run. Is there any line more deadball than that? Actually, the Dead Ball Era might be too late, because by then the ballparks had grown fences and the fielders had decided that gloves were a good idea. That's the kind of line The Freshest Man On Earth, fellow one-tool speed guy Arlie Latham, would have put up—check out his 1884 stint with St. Louis's American Association Browns, which is a dead ringer if only the American Association hadn't required nine "unfair balls" to draw a walk. 

Adron Chambers needs only four to draw a walk, and he's pretty good at it, which is why he stuck around even after his triples total fell to six in 2010 (which he finished in AAA.) He's strangely mediocre as a baserunner—54-84 in his career—and a slugging percentage hovering around .400 in the minors isn't going to keep Major League pitchers very honest, but Chambers is 2-9 with a walk and a stolen base through two games; his persistent climb up the minor league ladder and this AFL stint suggest the Cardinals might see some Major League role in his future, after all.

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Three other baby birds played in the game yesterday.

Blake King and Jordan Swagerty both made their AFL debuts. Blake King did fine posting a couple scoreless innings with fringy control and a mid-nineties fastball, while Swagerty couldn’t even make it through, throwing meatballs and getting pulled after getting only two outs (the next guy, Lucas Luetke, did even worse, giving up five more runs before retiring h\the final batter. He ended up with an ERA of 135.00)

The other guy who played was Tony Cruz, about whom I have nothing to say in particular.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 15, 2010 7:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Can someone do my VEB-job and provide links and times to all the games?

AFL included?

So danup, your heart has adron chambers?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

or is it merely

a large adron collider?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Enter the Adron

of the 36 Shaolin Chambers.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 15, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

no AFL but if someone can't get to a tv tonight

NYY vs TB at 7 pm
ST link here

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

(texas)

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 15, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn

wishful thinking
thanks

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

is FESPN just interviewing everyone who's ever hit a walkoff in the playoffs?

‘cause it was Ozzie last night, and there’s Kirk Gibson

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

I guess Joe Carter is next?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 15, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

so we're not bolding user names anymore, huh SBN?

You know I spend far too much time on this site when something like that immediately jumps out at me and then starts to gradually irritate me

by mattyp on Oct 15, 2010 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

SBN got sbn'd!

how you like it now, sbn

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I noticed it too,

wasn’t sure if it was just me. I wonder what else they screwed with?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 15, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

obviously not the right person

…wait. uh.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

the bold looked much better aesthetically

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 15, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just got contacts for the first time - mono vision

I can’t tell. My vision is always blurry.

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 15, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm debating on whether to get glasses or contacts

I just don’t like stuff on my eyes

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 15, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have very sensitive eye and didn't think I could wear contacts

They bother me a little but not bad at all. Better than remembering glasses. I don’t think I have quite the right prescription.

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 15, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

d'oh

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 15, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

luckily I don't need the glasses that much

but eventually I think it will be a good idea. sometimes I have to squint to see stuff

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 15, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just wait a few years

then you’ll be doing it like I do. Wear glasses but take them off to read.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 15, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

that used to be the only time I would wear glasses, for reading.

but now, I need them for everything. I’m waiting for bionic eyes.

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 15, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I DON'T LIKE CHANGES

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

TLR

Well what are everyone’s thoughts on Don Tony returning? I see Bernie is trying to be dramatic at the P-D but it has been almost a week longer than he said it would take to make his decision.

It makes me happy to see Duncan wants a 3 year deal to return, TLR or no TLR.

by paposse on Oct 15, 2010 9:59 AM EDT reply actions  

it has not been a week longer

he said he would have it by this week. It’s still this week.

I’m really indifferent about it. New blood will be cool. But that’s also kinda scary.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 15, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I read it wrong

I thought he said it was day13 or something of his decision that was only supposed to take a week. Regardless, if we don’t know today I’ll start to be suspicious, otherwise I assume he’ll be back.

by paposse on Oct 15, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well I thought he (or Mo) said a week to 10 days originally

If TLR is having trouble getting to YES then he is really burned out and he may decide not to come back. I agree with Evilfrog. That would be cool…but then what about Albert…..the unknown is exciting and scary at the same time.

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 15, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Albert's status is tied to TLR's presence at all,

I’d think that the MANNER of Tony’s departure has as much to do with Albert’s happines as does the FACT of Tony’s departure. It’s a whole different scenario if TLR walks away than if he gets cashiered by the FO.

by dronemc on Oct 15, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

La Russa to the Mets...

Pendleton to the Cards
Rasmus to the DBacks for Reynolds and Kennedy
Westy resigned
Pujols declines to extend
Augenstein is a modern day Danny Cox and wins 18 in 2011
Cardinals win the pennant

Fire La Russa!

by guayzimi on Oct 15, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

flagged
Pujols declines to extend

by paposse on Oct 15, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

might as well just give colby away on craigslist

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 15, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's out on the curb?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 15, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

people are trying to trade him for relatively expensive 3B with .328 wOBAs and 2 yrs of control plus average-ish starters headed for arbitratration

he might as well be

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 15, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've said it before....

Ima be pissed if they trade Colby.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 15, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

we could try that whole RFLDNAOATTRLT...but that didnt work out so well last time

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 15, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you're crazy

But I like your last statement. Here’s a fun new question for the audience…

If the Cards could win the World Series the following year, would you trade Albert Pujols?

by JWO on Oct 15, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

is the inverse also true? that is - if they dont trade pujols they don't win?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 15, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

A tough one. I want Albert to stay, but I also want the Cards to win it all

every single goldurned year. But, Albert could be the best ever….and if he played here his whole career, in the long run, that kind of thing could be dynastic….ah, heck, don’t know what I’m thinkin’…no, seriously, I haven’t a clue.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 15, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yankees threw out lowest percentage of baserunners in the MLB? 15%

I feel secure in this universe where Jorge Posada just outright sucks.

And suck it, Yankee pitching. Suck. It.

/irrational fan

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

I think the way Andrus plays might be a hinge point for this series.

If he’s able to get on and wreak havoc on the bases the Rangers could end up with a lot of cheap runs and maybe even some big innings.

The Yankees have struggled with good LH pitching this year and will see four starts by lefties in this series.

I think that the Rangers lineup is just as potent as that Yankees is when everyone is healthy, even with that gaping hole at 1B.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Oct 15, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

did Bryan Augenstein really account for the rise in the confidence poll?

or is that TLR-watch?

I am full of questions, today.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

LOL

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 15, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still voting 10.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 15, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

ditto

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

GET YOUR OWN MATERIAL, GOOLD!*
The Curse of Scott Rolen! or, scapegoating from the game
by Yadi2Second on Aug 12, 2009 12:18 AM CDT on Game 115 Overflow Thread II

Today’s Gooldism

*No, not really. It just confirms that he is Here and he has good taste.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

You should go make a snide tweet

about not crediting proper outlets.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 15, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm having an off-day

is this a #poachers tag?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

That last line was uncalled for.....

Scotty could have been just finishing up his contract here. Aside from the feud, I have to admit that I thought Rolen was about done. It seemed like until this year, all you had to do was throw him a high fastball, and he’d never catch up with it. Apparently it just took 3 or 4 years for that shoulder to heal.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 15, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have to agree with you on that, RR.

It wasn’t clear to me before that Tony had as much to do with it as he did. But Rolen wasn’t looking good.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's still done, he even said if he wasnt playing in that bandbox his #'s would suck

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

When did he say that?

Not that he’s not right, just wondered when that was.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

late in the season on FSN

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I might use a hashtag

of #straussicorn, if I were on Twitter.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 15, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

strauss: still not a unicorn

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, I should earmark this for the glossary too

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe that David Freese's condition...

has left him cold to our pleas for a healthy and productive 3B

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

i hold fast to the faith

that Scotty is not responsible for his curse. he’s just the center of it. like some Japanese horror movie.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, i don't think Scotty hates Cardinals Nation...

he just can’t help it.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

perhaps it was Hee Seop...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

CHOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIII

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 15, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

DAMN! Beat to it.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

no, it was that douche from the dbags that first f'ed up his shoulder

he sucks soy sauce was just the nail in the coffin

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

alex fucking cintron, gah, that fuckers name has been eluding me all day

if figures i wake up in the middle of the fucking night screaming his name

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 16, 2010 4:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

David Freese has it in him to put the 3B curse ON ICE!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow!

22 players have played at 3rd since the 06 series??? Granted, some of those must be Sept callups but sheesh. I don’t even know if I can name half of them without looking.

Rolen
Glaus
Spiezio
Thurston
Barden
Greene
Greene
Freese
Descalso
Miles?
Lopez
Lugo?
Mather?

by paposse on Oct 15, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brendan Ryan.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't forget Uncle Rico.

I think Craig got there for one game this year, too.

StanTheManFan
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He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.

by StanTheManFan on Oct 15, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

kennedy

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Oct 15, 2010 12:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

hoffpauir?

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Oct 15, 2010 12:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

didn't miguel cairo reappear in 07?

If so, him.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Oct 15, 2010 12:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

ouch

Kyle Lohse has a No-Trade Clause.

by BVHeck on Oct 15, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let this be a lesson

Don’t trade the faberge eggs.

by JWO on Oct 15, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least, not for guys who aren't good enough to return draft picks

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Oct 15, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

too soon

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

David Freese can COOL our hot corner woes!

(the Mr. Freeze puns will continue until someone tells me to stop…i can’t help myself)

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Read my poem!!!

:=8)

Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 15, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

ICE TO SEE YOU!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 15, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

What killed the Rolen curse?

THE ICE AGE!

(sorry, that is just my favorite line from Mr. Freeze)

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

What's great about that line

(What killed the Dinosaurs? The Ice Age!) is that it’s such a bad pun and also so historically stupid. It’s double-awesome.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 15, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

looks like we've found your a-CHILL-es heel, david.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Oct 15, 2010 12:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   3 recs

new nickname!

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 15, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heck yes!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 15, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

You forgot your sunglasses, Mr. Caruso.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 15, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean these?

VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009

by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 15, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok WTH

Damn you SBN!

VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009

by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 15, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet David could have some nice ICE-olated Power numbers!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

With David Freese we could have a lineup that would CHILL a pitcher's confidence!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

With a full season David Freese is going to have an incredible WAR

Winters! Above Replacement

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think David ever "makes it snow" at strip clubs?

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

This should be David's walkup video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRH-Ywpz1_I

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

if he's here, he should chip in or gtfo

i hate lurkers

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I swear every time someone mentions Tyler Greene

I get REALLY annoyed that we didn’t give him enough playing time to find out whether he can boot Skip to the curb or not.

by sdrone on Oct 15, 2010 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah

sometimes grudges really can mess up your plans going forward, they should have played him a lot more, especially at third and second.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 15, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

he was hurt...

:D

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 15, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

after that though

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 15, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

he was rehabbing

maybe next time he should consider the advice of his agent a little bit longer.

btw, Greene should be given time next spring to boot skip.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 15, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was still disappointed in him during ST

he was not in the best shape of his life.

but mostly that’s because I had high expectations of him.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

TLR won't make the move

based on spring training. Unless you are counting on a new manager.

by sdrone on Oct 15, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sold on Greene anway

None issue really.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 15, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

+ infiniti

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 15, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck that

It’s almost like he would have been a better option to get an extra 145 PAs than Aaron Miles.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 15, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm already convinced. Boot the Shoe-maker

to the A. Miles super-sub role

Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Jay/Craig 9, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, M Carpenter 5, Molina 2, T Greene 4, Ryan 6, pitcher

by gocards62 on Oct 15, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kozma is about as unimpressive a player as you can watch

also, I’m very glad that Duncan wants to stay 3 years more, seemingly despite what Larussa does. glad they are probably not connected at the hip.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 15, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Duncan's wish makes me wonder how the minor-league pitching philosophy talks went.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 15, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

seems that they went quite well

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 15, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

this site is way messed up

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 15, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

the text?

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 15, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

and all the fan posts and stuff are at the very bottom, below the end of the comments

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 15, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just this post though,

the others load normally.

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Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 15, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

this has been said a lot of times

but we have two of the top ten hitters in all of baseball on the team for next season. how exciting is that… gonna be another long hotstove season.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 15, 2010 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I did thoroughly enjoy watching Pujollidasmus this year.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't it be cool if we could pull a Dr. Frankenstein and splice the three together?

End up with something like a 14 WAR player who can play center field.

Of course, he’d cost something like $33 million a year if we splice the contracts together, so that’d offset the value some.

by dronemc on Oct 15, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

dingdangolseparatebodies

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can hear him saying that!

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Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 15, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the obligatory "piss in Cheerios" comment:

But we also have 2 of the worst hitters in all of baseball on the team for next season. How exciting awesome fucking frustrating is that?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Oct 15, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who were you thinking of for next year, Fourstick?

I was referencing Feliz and Miles, but Feliz won’t be back, and it’s possible Miles won’t.

by dronemc on Oct 15, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brendan Ryan is one. He was the worst hitter in the NL not named Feliz.

Yadier Molina is the other.

Both of those guys are still valuable due to their defense, but offensively, they’re atrocious.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Oct 15, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uhm...

Molina wasn’t that sucky as a hitter. Final numbers were:
- .262 AVG
- 6 HRs
- 62 RBIs
- .671 OPS

That’s not silver slugger territory, but that seems respectable.

by JWO on Oct 15, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

.299 wOBA

Ranked 26th of Catchers with at least 200 PA

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by nomar34 on Oct 15, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

what was the average wOBA for catchers with at least 200 PAs?

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by Evilfrog on Oct 15, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

why does fan graphs think there are only 7 ML catchers?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 15, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

here is a list of people with lower wOBA than yadi for 2010 (min 200 PA)

Kurt Suzuki
A.J. Pierzynski
Alex Avila
Ronny Paulino
Ivan Rodriguez
Jason Kendall
Bengie Molina

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 15, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

too bad i have no idea how to use excel or i would tell you the average wOBA

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 15, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I DID IT! average wOBA is .308

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 15, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congratulations!

you are now an official sabermetrist. Your certificate and $15 gift card to Ponderosa Steak House are in the mail.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 15, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

sweet...thanks Microsoft Excel Help!

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 15, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

next step: multivariate regression

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 15, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even though I shouldn't have to do this

I’m going to briefly defend Yadier Molina and his hitting. You used wOBA. Ok, that’s a good measure. Lets look at some of the others.

Catchers with minimum 200 PAs in 2010:
AVG – 18th
OBP – 17th
HRs – 25th
RBIs – 8th
SLG – 29th
OPS – 27th
Total Bases – 15th
IBBs – 7th
Extra Base Hits – 20th

I cherry-picked a little, but I think the numbers bear out the counter-argument. Yadier Molina was not a great hitter. But I would not call him “atrocious”, as was argued earlier.

by JWO on Oct 15, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It'll also be interesting to see if he hits better

during seasons when his wife isn’t about to have a baby.

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by StanTheManFan on Oct 15, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we get his defensive rankings, as well?

Just for balance, of course.

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 15, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT

I apologize for the off topic post. But I have just begun this whole Twatter, Twitter, whatever trip and I’m sure you guys know a hell of a lot more than I do.
Are there any Cardinal players with official twitters? Which Cards reporters should I add? I already have dgoold, bernie and leach. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 15, 2010 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

@oldhossradbourn

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 15, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol... Ok!

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 15, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked the one toward the bottom

about Ryan Howard and a left-handed cue card guy. Howard did pretty well last night. And, he looked very much slimmer out of his uni.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 15, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

pagz and hawksworth both have twitters

they’re both pretty terrible

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 15, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh and holliday

but he doesn’t use it anymore after he got made fun of for posting about creed

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 15, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

This actually made me laugh out loud.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's funny cause it's true.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 15, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

oops

completely missed your post some how.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 15, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holliday had one

I think he stopped after the whole Creed thing.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 15, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

johnmarecek is good

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

who is that guy?

and i hear @GDM426 is the bee’s knees

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

for whoever hasn't seen the sabr simpsons episode

it’s on hulu for now

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I feel like BJ Rains!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5688345

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Straussian Twist!

click link for huge news regarding Tony’s future with Cardinals!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry you are not in Strauss's league. Not misleading enough. Way too much truth.

This is actually news that they are taking every day. At least it’s news to me. I thought the FO had made their pitch and were waiting to hear back.

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by spfldbird on Oct 15, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still practicing on my Straussi-ness

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

that makes you go blind

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would be interested in how you know that.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn't your mother tell you anything?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

How do you know my mother?!

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 16, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I guess she didn't tell you, then...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

How's this?

Trade offers for Rasmus! There are several!
http://pinetarandpocketprotectors.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/colby-rasmus-trade-value/

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was interesting

I noticed in the article that the male brain continues to develop until age 25. Colby has another year of development left. Maybe interview skills are emphasized in that last year. Or how to humor TLR skills.

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 15, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's mostly decision making ability stuff.

Maybe that will help him get the ball out of his glove and on it’s way to the correct target?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, I hadn't heard this part before-
For the first time since 1996, La Russa’s first year with the team, the manager drove home to northern California in an SUV jammed with items that had accumulated in his office. He quickly pointed out then that this wasn’t the first step of an exit strategy.

So for the first time in 15 years he cleaned out his office and took his stuff home? Can’t read too much into that, but it’s intriguing.

"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.

by The Continental on Oct 15, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a beautiful day, but something was missing

oh, of course. Posnanski.

http://joeposnanski.si.com/2010/10/14/thirty-two-great-calls-2/

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

This is amazing

I love everything about this video. I’ve never felt strongly about Jon Miller one way or the other, but this video just pushed him into my favor. And the way they replay Ruben Rivera’s cluelessness over and over at the end? Classic. Like the production guys were just dying to play Yakity Sax

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 15, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

"there are no flags on the field"

i get goosebumps when i hear that… i have no idea why, but the way he says it – i guess that’s the art of announcing

video

by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 16, 2010 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

so in Goold's book

where is Snowcones?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

bassball

yankees montage.

I wish they’d shown more of Nolan Ryan’s first pitch.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Smoltz!

talk over Ron Darling more, Smoltzi.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

i'm bored already.

wtf AL “baseball”
i might take a nap

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I can usually only watch an inning or two at time, before I get bored.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

wish i could watch the ALCS

i’ll be studying pretty much all night

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 15, 2010 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

too bad, you'd be really happy right now

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm loosely following it

it’s on and muted. i saw hamilton trotting around the base paths

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 15, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i forget, are you a little bit of a Rangers fan?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

very little bit

i live in texas and kind of need to follow an AL team, so i’m cool with the rangers

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 15, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

that music is a little epic for a 3-run homer

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Well there you go Mr. Hamilton.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

35 pitches so far for CC

and he’s not even out of the first.

Yeah.

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by StanTheManFan on Oct 15, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

CC Sabathia is a big fat man.

They should call him CCC. Amiright?

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I was watching a game at Colorado (pre-humidor) a few years ago

when CC was pitching. At one point he fell (literally) off the mound — got his feet tangled or something. You could feel an earth tremor up in the stands.

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by StanTheManFan on Oct 15, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about X-CWT?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 16, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

nolan ryan told them not to cut the grass

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

the last replay before commercial sure looked like he was safe.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Safe.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

No I meant OUT!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was a beached whale moment

and totally safe.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

if that would have been a Yankee called out instead of safe

maybe MLB would finally get more instant replay

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Boog-like!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Brendan Ryan's the other shortstop.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

i'd expect Smoltzy to bring him up

lard knows those other two dont know his name. i bet jose reyes is mentioned tho

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know why but your sig always makes me crack up.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 15, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think you spelled drink till the tears taste less bitter wrong

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think you spelled drink till the tears taste less bitter wrong

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was creepy then...

it’s creepy now… plz stop for godsakes the guy didn’t die.

Fire La Russa!

by guayzimi on Oct 15, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

and yet, somehow, the creepiness makes it hilarious

I think its the “sweet prince” that does it.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 15, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

boog never spikes his head into the ground awkwardly

he fought the earth and WON.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

get your head out of your ass SBN

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

there's goes the no no

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't mind Ernie Johnson...for basketball.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

they should've brought Charles Barkley along too.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

the nba sucks & so does ernie

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know what? you suck!

(not really, just seemed like a nice time)

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 15, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

so's your face

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey Ronnie, just because the Yankees as an org has been in the playoffs a shit ton

doesn’t mean these players have & won’t crack under the pressure. good gawd i should totally be a color guy, at least i kind of know what i’m talking about

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

it would be really depressing, though

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think so because i'd be happy to be out of the basement

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, if your last dozen comments are any indication...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

but i'm currently stuck in the basement, if i was at the game in the booth i'd be happy

well, happier than i am now

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

i got news for you gdm

basement-adjusted metrics can’t compensate for everything
even in a bandbox

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

but they have nachos, and the nachos VOPR is +50, you can't beat that

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a balk!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

no Smoltzy, i dont think CC's getting better tonight

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Ha Ha fuck you yankees !!!

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

CC's done, get him outta there

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

lol posada

you suck so bad

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

ya go eat some bbq

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Did Tony retire yet ? hasn't it been more than "a week " since the end of the season?

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

they only show the scpre graphic

like 5% of the time. i keep having to sit and wait for them to show it.

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 15, 2010 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

so they're winning?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh ARod

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Greetings Veebers

I got here just in time to see a former Cardinal go yard.
/if they do it again I’ll have to self-exile.

by Lambtron on Oct 15, 2010 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

but will the Phillies beat the Giants ?

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

my heart says no, but my brain says yes

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

my postseason bracket has been 100% right so far

and I’ve got the Giants winning it all.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 15, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think they will too

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah.

It certainly could go to the Giants, but I think the Philly 1-2 guys are a little better than LinceCain. Tim and Halladay each win a game, and Cain comes close to matching Oswalt (if he starts G2), but the Phillies have too much punch for SanFranny. 6 games.
/amateur analyst is guessing wildly

by Lambtron on Oct 15, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

dont forget about Sanchez

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

greeeaaat, head first.

Albert would’ve slid.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

no offense.... but do you make any other comments anymore?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

wheres the burnsauce gif?

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 15, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't know pitchers had wings.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Oct 16, 2010 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Swisher is the only Yankee i like . He's old school and not a fuckin robot

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

OK i like Jeeter too

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Cardinals are a little bit robotic

Matt Holliday looks like he would fit right in with the Yankees.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 15, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes he would

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

you mean they have huge helmets?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

does Ron Darling ever blow his nose

he has more snot up there than any announcer I have heard

by the Tewk on Oct 15, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

you spelled cocaine wrong

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tottally off topic, but whatever

anyone willing to wager that thier evening was worse than mine?

Dog shit salad

by Aranathor on Oct 15, 2010 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you also burn a chocolate cake that you were looking forward to

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am sure you win

but do tell if you want to

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got my friends lost on the way to a club, at which point they ditched me

Found the place, and found a nice guy and we hit it off for a little while… right up until his boyfriend told me to ‘fuck off’. I managed to haul myself out of the place even though i wanted to break the fuckhead’s jaw and paid 11 quid for a taxi home. All in all a pretty shitty night.

Dog shit salad

by Aranathor on Oct 15, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait what ?

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

isn't it morning where you are ?

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

its currently 4:10am

But fuck it, i don’t have to wake up tomorrow

Dog shit salad

by Aranathor on Oct 15, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

turn the game on dude you'll feel better right away

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

when i first read it i was gender confused for a second . Its all good

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh so the dude neglected to say he was with someone?

how convenient

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I managed to cheat on my own sorta-boyfriend

by making some other guy cheat on his boyfriend, its all good fun eh?

Dog shit salad

by Aranathor on Oct 15, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

even steven

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

how'd you get hooked on baseball in Liverpool?

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are a true Cards fan if you love them when they lose bro

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

so you became a fan because of schu

so where did you go from there? did you start reading box scores? did you google the Cards and find VEB and learn everything from there?

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 15, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I started a fantasy team (with skippy obviously)

Wikipedia’d the Cards to learn some of the history, basically all i got out of that was
a) Musial and Hornsby existed
b) TLR is old and a good manager
c) Whitey herzog was important

everything else i know is incidental, i was active on the MLB site for a while but its full of haters, I only started reading VEB in ’09 (i think)

Dog shit salad

by Aranathor on Oct 15, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm

re: #2, someone should really update the wiki

by mattyp on Oct 15, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahem, that is number b)

er..letter.. you get the fucking point

by mattyp on Oct 15, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

congratulations

you just killed the joke

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Try and send away for Derrick Goold's new book

“100 things Cardinal Fans should know and do before they die” published by Triumph Books . I’ve been a Cards fan since i was a little kid in the 60’s and that book has alot of stuff in it i didnt even know .

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

you have to spread the word, Aranathor

show them the light!

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 15, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't be hatin

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

not that there's anything wrong with that

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 16, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

how much is 11 quid

and you need new friends
actually, just lose all your friends – less headache

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

about 17 bucks

my mates were alright about it in the end, met up with them back in the flat.
But i see where your coming from. Other people walk too slow.

Dog shit salad

by Aranathor on Oct 15, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

where the hell are you?

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's the other brit on the board

who knew there were two British people who liked baseball?

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 15, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Liverpool,

in England

Dog shit salad

by Aranathor on Oct 15, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice

7 years in Germany and i never managed to go to GB
/i has a sad

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fail

you missed out

Dog shit salad

by Aranathor on Oct 15, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

next time around

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not from Liverpool, i'm just at university here

and i’m a Manchester United fan and thus you have just made a powerful enemy!

Dog shit salad

by Aranathor on Oct 15, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

While I love the game...

…and just got back from playing the game, I’m not into EPL soccer enough to have a favorite.

Right now i just follow my older son’s strategy from when he was younger and root for the team that’s winning.

So which EPL team, IYO, is the moral equivalent of the Cardinals? I could see one make a case for Man U, but aren’t they more like the Phillies?

by thepainguy on Oct 15, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be honest... Man U are more like the Yankees

They DOMINATED the Premiership, basically since its inception. The EPL as it is today was founded in 1992 for the 1992-3 season (in football the season lasts across 2 years which is confusing), Man U have won it 11 times, next best? Arsenal and Chelsea tied with 3 each. THREE. Combined with 2 Champions league titles, 4 FA Cups and 3 League cups. 4 double’s seasons (season in which 2 trophy’s were won) and the first AND ONLY english club to win ‘The Treble’ Man U have basically kicked ass and took names for the best part of the last 20 years.

Dog shit salad

by Aranathor on Oct 15, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Yankees bore me

Gotta go with Arsenal or Chelsea (and really Arsenal for their unis).

And now it begins.

…or…

I think this is where we shake hands.

by thepainguy on Oct 15, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

My younger son has got some Beckham in him

I mostly play him at striker (or sweeper) but it’s kind of a waste to put him all the way up top. He’s better bombing and bending the ball from high on the right side.

by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

The moral equivalent of the Cards is probably Arsenal

They play the game the ‘right way’. Arsenal are a great team to watch and a tremendous advert for the game, the Cards are quite similair, although there are more exciting teams in MLB than the Cards. There isn’t really a great comparison in my eyes.

Dog shit salad

by Aranathor on Oct 15, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unknown

This league is weird. We either slaughter or get slaughtered.

No middle ground.

My current plan is to play 2-3-3 against weaker teams and 3-3-1 against stronger teams.

by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...

might i suggest 2-1-2-1-1

Two Centre Backs, one defensive midfielder providing cover, 2 wide midfielders, one attacking midfielder and one out and out striker. Classic Jose Mouriniho inspired diamond formation, playing a consistently in the same formation will help the players dramatically.

Dog shit salad

by Aranathor on Oct 16, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting thought

I was playing a 1-2-3-1 last week but had a problem with good teams running the seam between the two defenders and then juking the sweeper/centre back.

I do like being so strong in the middle and a bit longer because most of these fields are longer than they are wide.

Good stuff.

by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you've got a particularly tall player up front

or are particualrly weak defensively you could always pull the AMF back to be a second covering DMF. Just a thought, but it does limit your offensive capability severely.

Dog shit salad

by Aranathor on Oct 16, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmmmm...

I do have one player I have to hide and I prefer to hide players on offense rather than defense (LF when i play 11v11). This lets me hide her at striker but still have offense at LMF, AMF, and RMF, as long as this "striker’ doesn’t muck things up up top (which has been known to happen) or get called for offside.

by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting strategy, but hey need must when the devil drives

I’d still be tempted, in this instance to play 2-2-2-0-1. An extra body at the back, even an ineffectual one, can make things harder for the opposition. Whilst an ineffectual striker just seems like a waste, unless they are particularly good at tracking back.
In the UK it’s commonplace to play the best player at the striker and hide the worst player at Right back (when playing with 11 men). Regardless of their relative skills, especially at such a young age.

Dog shit salad

by Aranathor on Oct 16, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hide the next weakest player at RB when playing 11v11

But that leaves me a bit exposed when playing 8v8. I know that tendency and attack from the left as a result. The team last week did the same to me.

The advantage of 3-3-1 is that you can still hide weakness at RB and not muck up your offense. However, then you don’t have many layers of defense, and I like layers.

Also, when coaching girls I prefer to have odd numbers so that someone is there to take charge in the middle of the field (because girls won’t always take charge if it’s not explicitly their job).

With my older girls I play a conventional 4-3-3. However, I take my two center backs and flip them vertically so it’s technically a 1-2-1-3-3. That way my center backs are both in the middle of the field and in two layers.

by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very unorthodox strategy

but i like it.

Also, i’m going to bed because its almost 6am. Good luck tomorrow.

Dog shit salad

by Aranathor on Oct 16, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

okay, so you weren't forced to sell your mother into prostitution to pay for the bulk shipment of smack that you couldn't afford

so its not that bad.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 15, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

what kinda fuckin night are you having?

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

my only advice to you, d-dee

is to beware of craigslist

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 15, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

noted

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

ayup

mine is worse than that, at least when considered in a totality of circumstances light. Because all my weekend nights (and days, for that matter) now consist of the same thing, the very thing I’m doing right now: Sitting and sifting through dozens of law cases, journal articles, books, etc, and then incorporating them into scholarship (hah..if you want to call it that) and citing them according to the most inane, meticulous rules of citation this shitty race called man has ever produced. This is pretty much all I do from 9 in the morning til about 2 at night every day, except when I’m in class*1

1 See In re Mattyp v. Serrated Kitchen Knife to the Wrist: The Perpetual Temptation

by mattyp on Oct 15, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you getting paid for it?

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course not

the reward is in adding to the body of legal scholarship (in other words, I get published in a law journal that no one gives a shit about). It probably helped get me the job I have lined up, but if you knew anything about working at a big NYC law firm, you’d know that it’s just going to be a continuation of this misery

by mattyp on Oct 15, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe you should give IHB a call and you guys can talk law

or bitch about it
you might wanna get a hammock

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gutted

I’m a student, but i have literally no work to do half the time, hence why i have time to do ridiculous fanpost such as this one

Dog shit salad

by Aranathor on Oct 15, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am still waiting on part 3 btw

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll get there eventually

its a bit of a sprawling monstrosity even in part 2 form. I keep thinking of new and insightful analysis which makes me forget other insightfual analysis i though of earlier… i need to codify this shit

Dog shit salad

by Aranathor on Oct 15, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

write. shit. down.

just add notes to the post but don’t publish them and you can keep track of your ideas

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you know victoria moore? or gemma atkinson?

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 16, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Life's too short man. get out

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you also accidentally purchase 14 keys of heroin thinking that you were buying illicit imported fine china?

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 15, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

HFS, that would be one expensive fuck up.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 16, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

damn i just turn the game on and tx is about to blow it

boo

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

are you fuckin kiddin me

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn you, NotTheYankees.

"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.

by The Continental on Oct 15, 2010 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn....of course the Yanks will come back and win this one

Yee haw what fun….

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Oct 15, 2010 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

smoltzi, i looove smoltzi

can he manage?

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

someone PLEASE put some superglue on the TX gloves!!

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

the yanks must just have special breakaway bats for their bloop comebacks.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

wtf did you do?

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i turned the game on just when they started scoring..

maybe if we went away again…

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck that

you called for the blame first, you can have it
quick everyone, throw stones at oleary

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i blame it on g.w.

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

....

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 16, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

5 run eighth?

shit. fuck the yanks.

Dog shit salad

by Aranathor on Oct 15, 2010 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Just give them their 28th WS trophy already

Why waste everyone’s time?

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Oct 15, 2010 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

old withered heap suddenly moves and gurgles 'Parity!'

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree, after all they practically bought it

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Geez, that was just the first damned out of the inning

"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.

by The Continental on Oct 15, 2010 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Derek Holland is gonna be pretty good

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 15, 2010 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

O M G WHAT HAPPENED????

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

so it's you

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

apparently so, i turn off the game & they make a miraculous come back

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 16, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

the billion dollat payroll happened

the yanks are like an std you can’t get rid of

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

isn't it ironic that Mike G is selling rich food

given his stint with Slim-Fast or whatever the hell it was

by the Tewk on Oct 15, 2010 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

george w needs gto stand up and get loud

yell some profanity at kerry wood

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

The Rangers radio guys

are horrible. No character at all..sound like robots. Their team blows a lead and they are as monotone as they were at the beginning of the game. We are so lucky to have Shannon & Rooney.

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Oct 15, 2010 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

i couldn't care less about the alcs

but this is pissing me off

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

this crackerjack operation has

Guys in the Truck?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

smoltzi must have brought them

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's the flimster!

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

we thought you were dead

sent someone over to your house to rummage through your stuff and steal the rest of the VEB shirts

by mattyp on Oct 15, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

in that case i'm surprised you're not dead

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

how was it?

did you eat the best food on the planet?

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 16, 2010 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

it bothers me no end that they used the same "calendar" graphics

for recent file footage that happened on different days

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

check out wheels molina 2.0

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

rats, did I miss one

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya he motored over to catch a behind the plate pop up. good play

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

No joke...some car dealership in Texas

is having a A-Rod pinata hung up and they just said “Come take a whack at A-Rod”.

I wonder if steroids and dirty photos of Madonna fall out instead of candy??

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Oct 15, 2010 11:50 PM EDT reply actions  

ya, only crap can come out of it

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

can i get a walkoff?

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:50 PM EDT reply actions  

you get a bunt

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

get off your butts rangers ! They're all sadz in the dugout

"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.

by riftraftredbird on Oct 15, 2010 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

oh, how predictable

the yankees are winning all of a sudden

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 15, 2010 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

shocker

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair they deserve it

it has been nearly 365 days since their last championship

Dog shit salad

by Aranathor on Oct 15, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

But..but..

The Yankees winning every year is sooooo good for baseball.

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Oct 16, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

well, they ARE paying $566,407 per day between championships

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 16, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

great, now they'll all be diving headfirst

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

oh so when the nyy dive into first, it's genius

when anyone else does it… oh forget it

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 15, 2010 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

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