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Hot Stove League! Minor League Waivers Edition!

Bryan Augenstein, whose name is difficult to spell and remember all the way through, is this year's Charlie Manning—a major league vet we've never heard of who's notable primarily because he is the first offseason move of the—well, the offseason. Also because the number in the lede of every article about the pick-up is last year's 6.49 ERA in the minor leagues. Here are some Bryan Augenstein Facts:

 

  • He's 6'6", which is weird—for some reason I expect all mediocre pitchers to be about Jason Simontacchi's size and build, but Bryan Augenstein refuses to be typecast as an excellent pitcher based on his height. 
  • He had good numbers until last year—strikingly low walk rates, no home runs, a fair-enough strikeout rate. He moved quickly through the system, did all the right things, and had a cup of coffee with Arizona in 2009, where he did stereotypical cup of coffee things.
  • Last year his BABIP sat at .391. ANALYSIS: I don't think that will happen again in 2010. His walk rate was also up a little, but I, too, would begin pitching around people if I were suddenly allowing 12 hits per nine innings. 

Today could very well be the last time we mention Bryan Augenstein on the VEB front page, but as AAA filler goes he's interesting—young, solid numbers before The Incident, stuck in hitter's parks his whole career. It can't go any worse than the Rich Hill experience, and our expectations are lower. Perfect! (Also, where was I when Rich Hill pitched four scoreless innings for the Red Sox last month? Where was Rich Hill?) 

This is what not making the playoffs means: Four teams' fans will spend this off-day getting really psyched up about seeing their best pitcher (or C.J. Wilson) start game one of the LCS, four wins away from the World Series. I am getting—well, at least a little psyched up about Bryan Augenstein. Okay, I'm making the same face he's making in that photo. It's October 14, our team's not in the playoffs, nobody's even playing tonight—it's just cause for Bryan Augenstein to deploy the :-[ emoticon. Or maybe to chew on something? I'm not sure what that is. 

Star-divide

How slow are things? Joe Strauss's "Hearing noise re: potential health issue w/a member of Cards '10 rotation. Hearing name Andrews as well" turned out to be Jake Westbrook having surgery on his non-throwing shoulder—which is accurate in the strictest sense but kind of disappointing once you actually take a look, like one of those interstate billboards promising two-headed animals or the world's largest ball of twine

Of course, really it's good news that the potential health issue is a non-issue. The Cardinals could have done without Westbrook if Kyle Lohse had been anything except terrible; as is, they've got a gap in the rotation that would be suspiciously Jake Westbrook-shaped even if he hadn't played here for a few months. Dave Duncan is probably a little pissed off that he'll have to use somebody else for his secret switch-pitcher plans, but he'll get over it; in the meantime, Westbrook is, like Brad Penny before him, a fair stab at patching the back of a rotation that still needs to be patched.

It would be great if the Cardinals could develop guys like Westbrook themselves, but having just gotten Garcia out of the farm for good I can't complain too loudly about it. 

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you clearly need moar unicorn.

Also, I am psyched up about this supposed epic EPIC pitching matchup.

(And @str8edgeracer. Who just tweeted: @JessGysin twitter popular > pro athlete popular hahaha less than 20 seconds ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® in reply to JessGysin)

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 7:25 AM EDT reply actions  

The Gap in Our Rotation is Wider....

…than the gap in Michael Strahan’s front teeth when he smiles: we need our Westie!!!

:=8O

Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 14, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

you havent read old hoss radbourn yet

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 14, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

no interest. don’t even know who that is. don’t even care.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 14, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

guess 'e don't care about baseball, eh?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

'parently

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 14, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

you'd probably like it

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 14, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

str8edgeracer

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 14, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your standards for "psyched up" are ... interesting.

StanTheManFan
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He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.

by StanTheManFan on Oct 14, 2010 8:57 AM EDT reply actions  

It's gonna be a long off season...

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 14, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

As long as they sign Holliday I don't care about anything else they do.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 14, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

you need to be moar specific

Brian, Cody or Heath Holliday?
imagine the possibilities of nicknames for a guy named Heath..

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 14, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn it...

…I’m a morning-moron. This was supposed to go up in the raccoon drinking discussion subthread.

by dronemc on Oct 14, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Though if you think aboutit...

…a review of Heath Holliday on Urbanspoon is amusing, in a post-modern sort of way.

by dronemc on Oct 14, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't open this at work,

I’ll have to check it out tonight.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 14, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's nothing amazing, just a few quick blurbs.

The first one is titled “Great Bacon!”, however, and will likely crash our servers with all the bacon pics it spawns if people look at it..

by dronemc on Oct 14, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

I scanned his peripherals too, using the Interwebs. He was at times described as the best control pitcher in the Arizona farm system. And for Low A ball, he had a remarkably low number of free passes.

Consider me interested. Sounds like a bit of 5th-pitcher competition to me.

by JWO on Oct 14, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is nice to have something to talk about other than the success of other teams.

Having literally never heard of Augenstein before we signed him, I don’t even know if he’s a starter or reliever. His innings totals look like a reliever, but minor league numbers can be weird. Does anyone know?
Anyway, he’s at least a little interesting. He had good control in the minors for the most part. In his call-up he has a 53.2 GB%. I think a team has to make this kind of pick-up because you never know when you’ll find something useful for cheap.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 14, 2010 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Primarily a starter in the minors, 2 starts with AZ.

"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.

by The Continental on Oct 14, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh

thanks!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 14, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

FB (87.4)

Let’s not get too psyched.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 14, 2010 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Is that from his call-up or from the minors?

Is there anywhere you can find mph info for minor leagues?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 14, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

i for one am shocked SHOCKED

you would use a smiley (frownie? mmm brownie..) on a front page post
SHOCKED i tell you!

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 14, 2010 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

This site used to be cool

Its gone way downhill since baseball stopped mattering

Dog shit salad

by Aranathor on Oct 14, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's sucked ever since it stopped being underground.

Much like a certain group of overexposed South American miners.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Oct 14, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

So surface, man

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 14, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

that might be a vampire emoticon

Twilight?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

you should be slapped

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 14, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I once saw a two headed cow....

Last time I checked, it was still hanging above the door in a bar called The Frenchman and Me in a little hole in the wall town called Wolf Creek. I saw a lady with a pet raccoon in the same bar. I almost quit drinking that night.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 14, 2010 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

anything it wanted.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 14, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

The bartender initially cut me off,

after I made the statement, “Either I’ve had too much to drink, or that lady has a raccoon in her back pack.” Bartender came over 5 minutes later and said “I was about to cut you guys off (we were well past the maggot drunk stage, as it had been raining all day and we couldn’t fish), but ya, she does.”

He bought us a beer and a shot each.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 14, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like you really needed his help at that point.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Creepy....

:=8.

Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 14, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like an egg on a skillet

and the burner is set to “warm” or “one”… it’s about to get toasty.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 14, 2010 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Wait. What?

Augenstein had a .361 BABIP in the minors in 2009, a 5.50 ERA, and a 2.98 FIP?

Then, this year, he had .385 BABIP, 6.56 ERA, and 3.86 FIP in AAA?

His LOB% was a little over 58% in both seasons?

After two consecutive seasons of what seems to be really unlucky results, Augensteingression could be very cool.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 14, 2010 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

the key words are

“sinkerball specialist”

What I Did On My Winter Vacation, by Dave Duncan

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like the way you think

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 14, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would have to be an epically bad defense.

He gave 10 H/9 in 09 in AAA and 12 H/9 this year. It’s either bad D or he is very hittable. Of course, he’s also striking out 7.5/9 over the last two years. Does that come out to avg. for ML?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Must be pitching to HARD contact

Sounds like he is insurance in case PJ Walters does not return

SD

by Gibby45 on Oct 14, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

or maclane,

who was granted free agency again, a week ago.

by ball in play on Oct 14, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thing is, I'm not so sure that's "unlucky" as it is "very hittable"

Look at his walk rates — he doesn’t walk anybody, but gets a fair amount of K’s. What that tells me is that when he’s off, he’s missing in the middle of the plate and the ball isn’t sinking, so hitters are spraying piss rods all over the ballpark and racking up tons and tons of hits on balls that aren’t even capable of being fielded. I can’t find any data on line drive rate, but I’m going to guess that it would be above 25% in both of those years. That’s not unlucky, that’s throwing lots of hittable locations when you don’t have above average stuff. I don’t know that it’s something that can be improved on.

Honestly, I would guess this is pretty typical of a struggling sinkerball pitcher, with the exception of the better than average K-rate, which I have really no answer for, other than maybe he’s Brandon Webb when he’s on and bad Joel Piniero when he’s off.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Oct 14, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm

His Game Logs seem to spell this out. I’ve sorted by Earned Runs….

He had 7 quality starts in 22 total starts. In those 7 starts, he walked 5 (five!!) in 45 innings — that’s damn impressive. He’s also giving up a lot fewer hits in those starts than in his non-quality outings. Anyone want to bet that his GB/FB ratio is around 3:1 or better in his quality starts and 1:1 or worse in his non-quality starts? When the sinker is working for him, he’s pretty good. When it’s not, he can’t get anybody out — witness the 2.00 WHIP in nearly all those non-quality starts. That’s terrible.

It’s the definition of a minor league pitcher. There’s tons of guys who can be really good when their on, but they can’t consistently bring that level of performance or figure out a way to get outs when they don’t have their best stuff. A good gamble on our part, but I don’t expect much out of him. Brad Thompson was fantastic at AAA with a similar arsenal of pitches, but never made much of a dent in the majors. Why would we expect this guy to be better?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Oct 14, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

LD% here

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 14, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fourstick's deducation proves correct.

His sinker has lost its sink, causing his GB% to go down and his LD% to go up.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 14, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 14, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

dun dun dunnnn!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

...caaaannnnn

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 14, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

at some level, I was waiting for that

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice find

I didn’t realize StatCorner had batted ball data — where do they get it from? Does BIS chart minor league games now?

His LD% isn’t as high as I thought it would be, but it gets higher and higher the closer he gets to the big leagues too, indicating that better hitters light him up, probably because they don’t miss as many mistakes in the middle of the plate.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Oct 14, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like a margarita.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 15, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to make a joke about him probably having a 30% LD rate, but didn't.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 14, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

It could be either bad defense or bad pitching. . .

or both, I guess, but without line drive data, we can’t tell. Your theorem is certainly an apt cautionary note, killjoy. ;<)

No time to look right now, but isn’t the D’Backs’ AAA affiliate in Tucson? Does dry heat do bad things to a sinkerball?

by SouthsideCardsFan on Oct 14, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't seem to hurt Brandon Webb when he was healthy

He was one of the best pitchers in baseball for a 3 year span….

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Oct 14, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except

B Webb pitches a lot of his games inside when it’s hot in Arizona, right? And I believe that Tucson is at a higher altitude, too, which tends to straighten out breaking pitches, IIRC.

This is all just a WAG, anyway.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Oct 14, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thinner air: less air resistance: less sink

The problem is that the effect is probably imperceptably tiny.

"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy

by hazel on Oct 14, 2010 9:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

how is a 2-seamer thrown, though?

the less air resistance would at least give a 4-seamer more “sink”

really, less “rise”, but you catch what i be cheesin’ n e wayz

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 14, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yah, it was inside

But that doesn’t mean the air is more humid inside the ball park than outside the ball park. I highly doubt they are adding 20-30% more humidity inside the stadium, so if we’re talking about “dry air” it’s pretty much the same thing.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Oct 15, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

A dry baseball

comes off at higher speeds when hit than moist, humid baseballs

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Oct 14, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

...
What that tells me is that when he’s off, he’s missing in the middle of the plate and the ball isn’t sinking, so hitters are spraying piss rods all over the ballpark and racking up tons and tons of hits on balls that aren’t even capable of being fielded

I honestly have no idea how you can possibly tell that simply by looking at his K:BB ratio. I mean seriously.

His LD Rate in AAA last year was 20% – that’s probably a bit below average, but not terrible enough to warrant a ~.390 BABIP. He’s getting unlucky.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 14, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm making an educated guess, which is basically what you're doing.

I don’t know how you can say, by BABIP alone (along with stringers from game logs for batted ball data, which would make that batted ball data pretty damn sketchy, imo) that he’s getting unlucky, FOR TWO YEARS IN A ROW. And for basically his entire minor league career, he’s been unlucky, by your astute observation. What is he, Martin Short’s character from Pure Luck? The unluckiest minor league pitcher in the history of the planet?

No. It just means he probably isn’t very good. He can be really good when he’s on, but when he’s not hitting his spots, he gets punished because he only throws 88 mph and doesn’t have plus breaking stuff or a good change up. The guy has a good “pedigree” in that he’s tall, he has a good sinker, and he can be dominant at times. Guys like that hang around the high minors forever and there’s a really large portion of them that never make it to the big leagues as an effective pitcher — mainly because they don’t profile well in the bullpen since they don’t throw hard and they aren’t consistent enough to be a good back end starter.

At least I qualified by comment as that “it’s what the data is telling me” instead of just making the unqualified statement that “he’s getting unlucky”, like you just know this for a fact.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Oct 15, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

....
FOR TWO YEARS IN A ROW.

This is laughable. Wow, two fucking years in a row? You do realize that it takes 3700 BIP for BABIP to predict future BABIP at 50%? 3700 BIP. That’s like 10 season before pitcher BABIP starts to mean anything:

http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/career_dips_numbers/

So no, it means he probably is getting unlucky, and there is a very small chance he’s not good. The data is telling you nothing. Your creating a narrative out of K:BB ratio.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 15, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't you just disprove your own argument?

If his BABIP in his entire minor league career is ~.350, we should just assume that it’s unlucky because it takes 3700 BIP to predict it at 50% in the future? Seems to me that this would be more of a reason to not use BABIP by itself, at all, ever, to prove anything related to pitchers, because it’s resting on the assumption that everyone should be around league average even though that’s not possibly true for everyone.

What’s laughable is that you’re discrediting the predictability of a stat that you’re using as the sole basis for your point.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Oct 15, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's laughable that you consider 2 years of higher than average BABIP to be significant

His career BABIP in the minors is .324:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=augens001bry

Which is a bit worse than average. That comes in a measly 363 innings pitched, and 1133 balls in play. That’s chump change when it comes to BABIP and means nearly nothing. Proper regression would have his projected BABIP at ~.305 going forward.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 15, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

This move will augment our pun-depth as much as it augments our pitching depth.

Could augur more shrewd low-risk pick ups with fun names.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 14, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

VEB is developing metrics faster than we can keep up

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's the tagline we've been searching for.

"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.

by The Continental on Oct 14, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

VEB: Don't say it unless you meme it

I also think the tv movie about the rescued Chileans should be called Unaccompanied Miners, but that’s just me

by mattyp on Oct 14, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking "A Miner Miracle"

but that may be a bit too “Lifetime Movie Network” for it to have much mainstream appeal.

by dronemc on Oct 14, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you guys take your estrogen pills or something?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manny Ramirez??

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was told they were Vitamin D. Pills.

Also, if called to testify before a committee, no hablo ingles.

by dronemc on Oct 14, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

boosh

That’s awesome

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Oct 14, 2010 2:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Blogging is a meme sport after all

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 14, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

i should probably credit you glossary - wise

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

see str8edgeracer

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stimmt

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 14, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually = eyestone

what we call a cat’s-eye agate

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Oct 14, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

cheers alberich

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

that looks disturbingly like raw chicken.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice, thanks

Wie schön.

/German-language posting.

by lightbulb on Oct 14, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

jo, was wunderschianes

If that’s a graph of his pitches, explains a lot.

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Oct 14, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do we still have Scott Gorgen?

Medusa and Gorgen is a powerful combination.
We would need to keep it going by drafting Nate Scylla, Derek Charybdis, and Chimera Hernandez.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 14, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

Ha.

A rec for you sir.

Chimera Hernandez is an awesome name.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Oct 14, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as it's pronounced correctly

namely, ki-MEER-uh, with a long I in the first syllable.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 15, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Since I think you just officially turned on the Hot Stove

I’m surprised you said nothing about Carlos Martinez (nee Matias).
P-D Article

by JWO on Oct 14, 2010 10:56 AM EDT reply actions  

that's 'cause about 5 threads devoted to Matias in the last three days.

unless my math is wrong, which is quite possible.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

VEB is very excited to welcome Matiatinez stateside.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 14, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

can someone explain to me why his last name is now martinez??

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 14, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

he changed it from Matias

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 14, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but WHY

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 14, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

to get a visa.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

matias was his uncle's last name

who raised him. he had to change back to his father’s last name, martinez, to get his paperwork approved

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 14, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

\/ \/ \/ RiverRat beat you to it

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 14, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i realized my mistake

i’ve shamed my coutry and my people

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 14, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice effort though.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 14, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was raised by his uncle (Matias) and he took his name.

His fathers name was Martinez. He had to change it to get the visa.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 14, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thank You.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 14, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any time.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 14, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

o rly? i'll remember that

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 14, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

get a room

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was my understanding that RR's offer applies only to name change inquiries

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 14, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

flagged!

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 14, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya, but admit it, you laughed.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 14, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

i smirked. and actually i rec'd it too. good timing

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 14, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

reference?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 15, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

search IHB and hammock

for a trip into IHB’s subconscious. may contain Matt Holliday.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

i almost shaved my head because of that hammock

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

you saying your head compares to the Tremendous Skull?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

no, but i was almost willing to chance it

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

nvm, this is covered

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 14, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

AFL recap from Goold:

Pete Kozma made his debut Wednesday, starting at shortstop and cracking a triple … He also struck out twice. In the field during the Surprise Rafters loss to Peoria, Kozma turned two double plays — including one on his own.

Adron Chambers started in left and batted No. 3. He stole his first base of the AFL season. And reliever Ramon Delgado may have had the best debut of the group so far. The righty pitched two scoreless innings in relief.

Also, Jordan Swagerty gets a Hall of Famer’s endorsement. But not really.

"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.

by The Continental on Oct 14, 2010 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

look at my baseball card. now look away! it is now magic.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

FTFY
look at my baseball card. now look away! it is now magic diamonds.

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Oct 14, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

you did read the story, right?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

so was I...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Relevant

Old Spice Grover

Fast forward to like :30

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 14, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw this the other day....

it’s full of awesome.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 14, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

rui

that’s two awesome youtube vids you’ve shown in about 10 hrs. well done.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 14, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

im on a horse. moo.

…cow…

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt

by tgreenfield on Oct 14, 2010 2:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I can't help but feel that Ole Miss blew a golden opportunity for universal awesomeness...

A black bear? A freakin’ black bear?!?! Instead Admiral F. Ackbar?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5684400

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 14, 2010 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

It's a trap!!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes We Can!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 14, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

LucasFilms nixed the Admiral

Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Jay/Craig 9, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, M Carpenter 5, Molina 2, T Greene 4, Ryan 6, pitcher

by gocards62 on Oct 14, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, he's in another galaxy, fighting evil forces.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7ljrGXktR4

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jon Jay discusses his rookie season

and how he can’t get away from answering inane questions from reporters

cooooool as the other side of the pillow

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

they probably think it's some kind of hazing

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can imagine Jay going up to Holliday or Waino or someone after the interview...

…and asking, “Come on, is he REALLY a reporter? REALLY?”

Not Carp, tho’, b/c CDGAFAJJABJRQ!

by dronemc on Oct 14, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

2010. In a nice little nutshell.
But despite proving his worth to the Cardinals, Jay was dealt another confidence blow when he was optioned back to Memphis in early June to clear a roster spot for Randy Winn. The veteran outfielder was released by the Yankees after hitting just .213 to start the year, but the Cardinals decided he was more worthy of the roster spot than the .302 hitting Jay.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 14, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

you gotta read his quotes really really fast

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 14, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uecker needs another surgery.

He has a tear near his replaced heart valve. Prognosis sounds good, but he’s 75.

Best of luck, Ueck.

"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.

by The Continental on Oct 14, 2010 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

yikes

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

aaaand...

BOOM goes the arrhythmia

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 14, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I think they need to fix this one.

If they replaced his with, say, Hrabosky’s, he’d just end up unfunny and bitter. Like he didn’t have a heart at all.

"he and the umpire pitched a no-hitter. He gave him every pitch. Basically, we had no chance." -Orlando Cabrera, whinging eunuch.

by The Continental on Oct 14, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

what's up!

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 14, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

these guys?

Ohhhhhh…you said twinE

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 14, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

We went there once. Story can be found here.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 14, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

not a bad video for a duck

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 14, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have seen him twice in concert.

Peoria 96 and Hyannis Port 96.

Hell of a tour that year.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Oct 14, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw him a couple years ago in Springfield, MO

so cool.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 14, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

He must make his rounds to the big fairs

The time I saw him at the Ozark Empire Fair

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 15, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

So anyone have a good guess what the top 100 prospect list would look like?

I don’t even know who the top prospect would be(mike trout?)

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Oct 14, 2010 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes.

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 14, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manager Carousel

Pretend for a moment that TLR does not come back to St. Louis. Who is at the top of your list for available managers you would like to see? My pick is Valentine at the moment, just for the fun of it. Though, knowing we want to keep #5 a Cardinal for life, I’m not sure Bobby would be the best choice.

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

by p_lampe on Oct 14, 2010 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I could live with this.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 14, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

why on earth would Joe come back

after we ran him out of town in the 90’s?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 14, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't let the Gob hear you

this is just the kind of vague comment that they would use against us

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 14, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

melvin

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 14, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was hoping for either Fredi Gonzalez or Oquendo

so since Fredi is already signed by the Braves. My vote is for Oquendo.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 14, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Maddon.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Oct 14, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ohh available managers.

Whoops. I still think he would leave TB for the Cardinals though.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Oct 14, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

think of the mustache-related costumes.

Maddon uses more memes than we do.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bobby F. Valentine?

No thanks.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 14, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone have Bobby Cox's number?

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 14, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

why?

Do you know a wife that needs beating?

BOBBY COX IS A WIFEBEATING DOUCHE, NOT A HERO BECAUSE HE’S OLD AND RETIRING FROM BASEBALL

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 14, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't overreact or anything geeeez

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 14, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

lboros

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 14, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would make too much sense.

We can’t have that.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vince, Terry & Ozzie

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 14, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don Wakamatsu

But no bias, right?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 14, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was a rule

that every other Cardinal manager had to be Red Schoendienst.

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Oct 14, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought the Cardinal manager *is* Red Schoendienst

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could we just clone Whitey?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pop Warner

Jose Oquendo.
Chris Maloney.
Steve Guttenburg.
The dad from Alf

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Oct 14, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just FYI

I was trying to remember the name of the dad from Alf. Let’s just say it’s not a good idea to google it unless you want to hear some sordid news.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Oct 14, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone interested in AFL baseball?

Jordan Swagerty is making his debut with the Rafters right now

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

2 on, no one out on a single and then an error by Cruz

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jesus

double to score a runner. 2-0 Mesa.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

2-1 that is, now 4-1

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another double,two runners score

The Cardinals have been just sucking profoundly in the AFL so far this year

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finally a ground out

looks like Schwag has been missing over the plate to not pretty results.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

is this available somewhere on the internetz?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 14, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm just following the Gameday located on the milb website.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another out, but a sharp lineout to Cox

ball right down the middle. Still looking bad.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

They replace Schwag

sorry, kid you don’t have it today.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, its a disastrous start for the other guy I was looking forward to seeing. Schwag now has an ERA of 10.80 to begin the season

to be fair, however, they just doubled again off the new pitcher.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

its a doubles parade!

Josh Vitters drives in Jeremy Moore

6-1 Mesa.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Schwag looked bad but this guy looks terrible.

Issues a walk. Still two outs.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now a single scores Vitters and a throwing error advances a runner to third

Hilarious!

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another single!

Mesa is trying to bat around twice.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

And another single!

Lucas Luetge has now face six hitters without recording an out.

Failure.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

its still going!

Jordy Mercer singles in a run

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

awwww, Mesa finally records an out, ending their quest to bat around twice.

Luetge has the truly epic ERA of 135.00

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

an ERA of 135 (thats one hundred and thirty five)

is probably what I would get, were I allowed to play professional baseball.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

After a leadoff double, Cruz grounds out sharply

now its Cox, looking for his first AFL base hit

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOM

Zach Cox finally shows some of that mythical doubles power, doubling in a run to make it 10-2

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

incidentially, Pete Kozma, currently playing DH

sounds like the most ill-suited DH of all time.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cale Iorg strikes out to end the inning, right before Kozma could bat

jerk

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now another Cards pitcher making his AFL debut

Blake King gives up a single before two quick outs, followed by another single.
First and second right now

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

GameDay has Blake King's fastball at 94-96

but he seems to be throwing mostly a mid eighties changeup/slider

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tony Sanchez flies out to end the top of the fifth

I didn’t know Blake King had that much heat, I’ll have to look into him a little more.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pete Kozma singles to lead off the bottom of the fifth.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

now Adron Chambers singles

gooooo Redbirds, leadin’ the way!

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eric Farris singles in a run in a very complicated play that I will proceed to transcribe verbatim

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eric Farris singles on a ground ball to right fielder Andrew Lambo. Pete Kozma scores. Throwing error by right fielder Andrew Lambo. Adron Chambers out at 3rd on the throw, pitcher B.J. Rosenberg to third baseman Josh Vitters to shortstop Jordy Mercer to pitcher B. Eric Farris to 2nd. Two out.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tony Cruz takes a walk and, combined with the walk issued to Caleb Gindl

the bases are now loaded for Cox….

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now a pitching change

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

A wild pitch to Cox brings in another run

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

aaaaand Cox Ks, for the gajillionth time

three out

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blake King goes into his second inning of work

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

gets a ground out from Andrew Lambo for the first out

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

then issues a four pitch walk

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

fly out for the second out

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

single, now first and second, two out.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

King seems like he might have some control issues

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's also getting jobbed on some balls and strikes calls

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

But King gets out of it with a swinging K.

And that’ll do it for me, folks.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa

Multiple purple_haze postings are a purple haze.

by lightbulb on Oct 14, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy 20-tuple reply

late combo breaker is sad :(

I'm not trolling, just being sarcastic.

by hr on Oct 14, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

no one else seems to want to follow AFL baseball with me

but all the important info is here, if anyone wants to see.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

merit badge

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

makes me excited about going to the game on saturday

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 14, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

where is my fellow arizonian anyway? RD something-something

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 14, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm interested I've just been busy working. blah

All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz

by spfldbird on Oct 14, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I just read the Matt Pagnozzi?!?! fanpost...

holy buttcrack that is intense!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 14, 2010 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

this reminded me of

“Funky Butt-Lovin!!”
“Did he just say ‘funky butt-lovin?’”

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 14, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's an epic cage match

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 14, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I was most surprised by the combatants

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 14, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's an interesting crusade by DG himself.

Change all of 8th Street to Stan Musial Street

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I think I know what Augenstein's problem is

he just doesn’t look that into it.

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 14, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

his face just says "meh" to me

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 14, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Go ahead hit it. I don't care. It may sink, it may not. Whatever."

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 14, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 14, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's from an old Charlie Brown strip.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sitting here at B&N listening to Phil Collins sing the best of Motown

Phil Collins singing “Papa was a rolling stone” as if he had lived it.

Excruciating.

Borderline offensive.

by thepainguy on Oct 14, 2010 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I just realized

that picture looks really weird.
At first glance, it looked as if the baseball was a dirty spot on the uniform.

Then the more I looked at it, it looked like a see thru all the way to his shoulder bone. Weird.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 14, 2010 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

that baseball actually looks photoshopped

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Oct 14, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Attention Statheads. Does anyone know where I could find Team BABIP Against numbers?

I’m curious what they would look like across an entire season

also curious if they would reflect team defensive value

by YesWeOquendo on Oct 14, 2010 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Here

.296 for this year.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 14, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

fangraphs says .299

but overall, not particularly unlucky.

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder why there's a difference?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 14, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I linked you to Batting....

Here’s pitching. Also .296 on BR.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 14, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLB This Year in Baseball Awards

are now up and ready to be voted on.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/awards/y2010/tyib/index.jsp

Enjoy!

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 14, 2010 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I was surprised Brett Myers had 24 QS

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 14, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still am amazed when i see Yadi's Caught Stealing pct.

49%?!?!?!!?
Incredible

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 14, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy fuck

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

thou fuckin' shalt

If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.

by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Larue laughs at Yadi....

He threw out 50%

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 14, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interestingly

CS% leaders of active catchers inimum 200 stolen base attempts
1. Yadi 46.82
2. Pudge 44.49
3. Henry Blanco 42.93
4. Jose Molina 39.45
5. David Ross 38.55
6. Jason LaRue 38.51
per B-R

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 14, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

minimum*

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 14, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Yadi and LaRue

respectively, own the two highest single season CS% of all active catchers
1. Yadi 64.1 2005 (7th all-time)
2. LaRue 60.87 2001 (22nd all-time)
3. Pudge 60.34 2001 (29th all-time)

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Oct 14, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

LaRue used to be a badass behind the plate.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

fixed

LaRue is a badass

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

hi, i'm here

be not amazed
thou shalt not run
or try to run

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

how is strasburg even eligible for this?

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 14, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't hate

he threw 68 innings

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 14, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

what's the cutoff?

btw, how funny is it that two of the Must C moments are Atlanta’s big 9th with the walk-off salami by Conrad and Chris Nelson stealing home against the Reds?

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 14, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

VEB's a curse

i have to write an article for my school paper, sell an ad, study for my pyschology midterm, study for statistics midterm, and write an essay on Antigone )…. none of which i’ve started doing yet

but im on VEB instead…. thanks!

by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 14, 2010 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Antigone's easy ...

If it’s the Anouilh for a French class, compare it to the Sophocles to the disadvantage of the latter.

If it’s the Sophocles for a classics/world lit class, compare it to the Anouilh to the disadvantage of the latter.

If it’s either (or both) for a theatre class, sneer at text-bound literary critics who miss the most important dimension of the piece(s).

If it’s for anything else, insist on the superiority of the Brecht/Holderlin.

Any of these approaches gives you at least twice as many passages to quote, which greatly reduces your own literary effort.

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Oct 14, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

VEB really does do everything...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently VEB does at that.

Just wish I knew what the hell he was talking about.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

my education clearly sucks.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 14, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

goes along with y2s' statement

it really does

"I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It's only after a get acquainted period that I see what I've been about. I've no fears about making changes for the painting has a life of its own." -Jackson Pollock

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 14, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

its sophocles for a classic lit class, but i do not know who Anouilh is… its short section called Theban plays by Sophocles…. but Anouilh is foreign to me…

but wow thanks a lot!

by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 14, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anouilh's foreign to me, too ...

French.

OK, I see now you’re in high school, so you prolly don’t have access to all that stuff. Do a comparison with Dietrich Bonhoeffer – German theologian who was executed by the Nazis. Wikipedia and the U.S.Holocaust Museum will tell you all you need to know, but you might have to Google around for fat quotes.

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Oct 14, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

niiiice

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 14, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

blah

All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away

by gdm426 on Oct 14, 2010 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

blub

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Oct 14, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

flub

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 14, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Repost from last night

Brett Favre Getting Hit By Football

Homer Simpson, famed movie critic, calls it “a triumph… a real tour de force”

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 14, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

On 101.1 they were talking about who is the best pitcher in the post season right now

not one person suggested Timmy. Tim Lincecum is the best pitcher in baseball. He is the best pitcher in the post season.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 14, 2010 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

No?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 14, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 14, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

FOURTEEN STRIKEOUTS

it’s not timmeh’s fault that the reds shit the bed and had a little bit of bad luck on batted balls against halladay

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 14, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

But EF makes it seem like it should be an automatic conclusion

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 14, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm a pretty big lincecum fan

but i can see how someone would give it to halladay. but i still think lincecum pitched the better game

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 14, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well sure

If we are going by the one start that already happened, then I’d say Lincecum was more dominant

But if we’re going by who we’d want starting Game 7? I don’t see how you make a distinction between Roy, Tim, and Cliff. It’s all very, very, very close

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 14, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, definitely true

and i’d probably take both of them over lincecum considering the year that he had. i thought we were just talking about the performances thus far

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 14, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

14 K 1 BB vs. 8 K 1 BB

I think Lincecum should clearly get the edge here.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 14, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

#spreadsheetmafia

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 14, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're tied with 0 RBI against

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 14, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

You could make the argument that Halladay is more efficient,

reducing the likelihood that Sergio Romo is going to come in.

"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy

by hazel on Oct 14, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Then again, Romo has a career 2.83 FIP, you’d probably want him over both Halladay and Lincecum given that hitters improve against a starting pitcher as the game goes on.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 15, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lincecum went against an offensively-challenged team.

Halladay no-hit the best offensive team in the NL.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Oct 15, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is for me. I'm okay with other answers

I’m not okay with the way he was just dismissed without thought in the conversation.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 14, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Given the season that he had?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 14, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

a season where he lead the league in strike outs and K/9

also had his highest BABIP against him while posting his best ground ball to fly ball ratio. I’d take Lincecum as my starter for game 7.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 14, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

lincecum had a stretch where he was downright bad

it wasn’t all luck

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 14, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone has those though, including Halladay

Lincey’s xFIP was 3.21, which is about as good as it gets (except for, you know, 2008-2009 Lincecum).

by vivaelpujols on Oct 15, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's fine

But how many people were asked? Given 5 people, you think it’s out of the realm of possibility that they would prefer Halladay or Lee?

SSS applies to real life, too

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 14, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woah there.

He had a good first game, but the guys that actually go multiple games for their team are going to get more consideration. Timmy Lincecum may end up being the best pitcher in the postseason, but I would go with Cliff Lee at this point.

And under your logic, how the hell do you not go for Halladay?

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Oct 14, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

the question was phrased

if you can have one of these pitcher start for you in one game, who would it be?

that is Tim Lincecum.

Also, Tim Lincecum has pitched the best game of the postseason. Halladay just has the best box score.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 14, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh

He’s thrown the best game (arguably) so far, but I have no problem with a list that ranks:

1a) Halladay
1b) Lincecum
1c) Lee
4) Sabathia

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Oct 14, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

and there is no wrong answer

but no one went with Lincecum. Even the guy who picked Sabitha and Lee over Halladay because they stroke out more people and “strike outs are the most important thing in the post season” It’s like they have are just ignoring the Cy Young for the last two years. (and they guy who is in the running this year.)

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Oct 14, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's not really in the running this year

it was a bit of a down year. he was only about an average staff ace as opposed to the best damn pitcher in the world

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Oct 14, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

you think lincecum would trade panda and renteria for utley and rollins?

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by tom s. on Oct 14, 2010 10:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

so, i've been trying to figure it out

and maybe i’m showing my noob colors here, but i dun geddit. everybody keeps saying things like “joe maddon would leave the best-in-baseball rays to come manage for the cardinals”

what’s his cardinals connection? he never played for the cardinals (or any MLB team) and never worked for them either, that i can tell.

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by prophetjohn on Oct 14, 2010 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm in the same boat

I think the Rays have a much, much better situation than we do

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by mysterui on Oct 14, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

so, it's just conjecture?

he has no connection to the cardinals or st louis?

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by prophetjohn on Oct 14, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it even conjecture?

I wasn’t aware of any actual conjecture that he might come to St. Louis. I thought was was more along the lines of “desperate hopes and dreams of certain Cardinals fans as they pray to the Gods of Baseball before falling asleep, which they know will never come to pass”.

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by mattybobo on Oct 14, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just parsed through all 139 results for "Maddon" on VEB

Nothing remotely resembling a connection. He managed here during the ASG and liked it, but that’s the closest I saw

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by mysterui on Oct 14, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

amateurs

He dropped a lot of that down in 08, when they were wild about doing profiles on him.

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have no idea

unless DeWitt is willing to pay him a lot more than the Rays are.

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by Evilfrog on Oct 14, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was a fan as a boy.

but I suspect he’s a bigger fan of the football Cardinals.

And quotes like this:

I just think it’s Mark Twain. It’s not about one book and it’s not about one particular character, it’s about him his personality. I’ll tell you about another guy, and I skipped over it, would be Branch Rickey. I’d say Mark Twain, Wayne Dyer and Branch Rickey are three of the people that I… Branch Rickey, for me, is so far ahead of his time. I’ve read a lot of his books; the book by Lee Lowenfish (“Baseball’s Ferocious Gentleman”) more recently.
That’s had a big influence on me and kind of validates a lot of the stuff we’re doing here right now. If you go back to the 1915 Cardinals, when they were really bad — the St. Louis Cardinals — and the Browns were better than them at them at that point. And how they build themselves into the World Series in the ‘20s, and eventually he builds the Cardinals and then the Dodgers and has a heavy influence with the Pirates also. And his forward thinking in regard to player development and scouting and all those things. He was willing to take a chance and cut against the grain a bit. Now, it’s an accepted form of thinking. At that time, it was way ahead of its time. In a baseball sense, I’d say Mr. Rickey.

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

and you know. blog articles named

Meet Joe Maddon, Cardinals Fan

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It still seems like the connection is tenuous at best

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by mysterui on Oct 14, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

well I've followed his quotes for 2 years, and he mentions them periodically.

It’s as tenuous as Joe Girardi and the cubs, and look who’s on the short list.

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

FOR ME TO POOP ON

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Oct 14, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't know you could reach your face like that.

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

and don't y'all believe in the pie anymore?

as long as the Cards remain a historic, prestige job in the MLB, that’s a real draw. it ain’t all dollars. not at the average age of managers.

the other part is that his philosophy is pretty much Whiteyball except from The Loop.

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

"don't y'all believe in the pie anymore?"

another candidate in the ever expanding list of possible VEB taglines.

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by purple_haze on Oct 15, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh god, I hope not

never hang all your hopes on pie

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

you have to believe, Y2S.

that’s what the pie is all about, in the end.

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by purple_haze on Oct 15, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I... I don't know if I can...

maybe I’ll eat some pie whilst I wrestle with my faith in it.

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

the y'all makes it more country-like

seeing as we’s simple folk livin’ here in the good ol’ Midwest U.S.A.

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by purple_haze on Oct 15, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually picked that up from my Latin teacher.

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

but it does imply something about the quality of this metaphorical pie, doesn't it?

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's all I am.lol

You're the fail to my win?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2010 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

If the guy hates having a constricted payroll.

The Cardinals offer at least a medium sized one, so that he doesn’t lose guys like Carl Crawford and Pena, 2 clubhouse leaders, every few years and have to start over again.

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by Taskmaster on Oct 15, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

this

im not sure i can buy that he leaves because the Cardinals are historically prominent and its an honor to manage one of the greatest MLB franchises (easily Top 3 i’d say)….

but it makes a lot of sense that he would want to manage a stable roster of guys instead of having to switch players every year… albert pujols is an allure as well (he’s not signed… blah blah… if he doesn’t sign i’d be shocked….)

by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 16, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

i knew there had to be something with the way people were talking

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by prophetjohn on Oct 15, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

OZZIE IS ON BBTN

talking about the GO CRAZY MOMENT!

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

oh god i got chills

Jack!

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

aaaaaahhhh the backflips

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't see the thing you're talking about

but do you, or anyone else, know if the Go crazy folks call was for radio or for tv?

The reason I ask is that my whole life I had heard the call while watching the video at the same time. It was cool but not near as cool as the first time I just heard the call without the video.

There was a commercial on KTRS during Cards games this summer that had the call on it. Theres this pause between “Smith corks one to right!” and “Go Crazy Folks!!” It’s like this really long pause where you’re just waiting and waiting for what’s going to happen. Then you hear the crowd literally explode. Then another 2-3 seconds and Jack yells the words that will live forever in Cardinal lore.

When I heard this I got goosebumps. I thought it was so incredible that I had heard it probably a hundred times, while it had been really cool, I had never felt like I was hearing it live until I heard it on the radio from Jack. It wasn’t until then that I even thought that it might have originally been called on radio.

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by albrtfn on Oct 15, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

According to the all-knowing Wiki (all hail!)

Vin Scully had the television play-by-play for the 85 NLCS. I vaguely remember hearing his call of that home run at some point.

Oh wait, here it is:
    And that’s driven to deep right field, back goes Marshall…gone!
    —NBC’s Vin Scully’s description of Ozzie Smith’s walk-off home run in Game 5.

Something similar happened with Kirk Gibson’s HR in the 88 series. Buck and Scully both called it, but Buck’s call seems to get played more.

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by The Continental on Oct 15, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm almost positive that in Gibson's case

Buck had the TV PbP

And thanks for the clarification Continental and gdm

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2. Baseball games. "
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by albrtfn on Oct 15, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

wanna bet?

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by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

nope, just checked the wiki-webs

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1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
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by albrtfn on Oct 15, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

WIIIIKKKKKIIIIIIIIII!!

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by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

nevermind

i should read wiki first

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1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
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by albrtfn on Oct 15, 2010 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

you damn kids & your wikkii

i was there, well no i was 3hr south, but i saw it & could have told you Vin did a lot of national TV back in the day & so did Jack. but when they did the same games Vin almost always did TV & Jack did the radio side. esp in the STL when he & moon man were on KMOX

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by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

radio

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by gdm426 on Oct 15, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha, their resident ump just rang them up

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2010 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

When you wrote
ANALYSIS: I don’t think that will happen again in 2010

did you mean 2011?

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 15, 2010 1:03 AM EDT reply actions  

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