Sunday Open Thread
- Various Post-Dispatch figures discussed, over the weekend, their respective choices for last-name-guy-on-the-payroll. I was hoping—sniff—that it would be Jim Edmonds, but with that dream dashed the usual names, Felipe Lopez and John Smoltz, top the list. Mainly I'm just happy to know that it probably won't be Reed Johnson, who has seemed all this time like a considerably worse bet than our own Rick Ankiel.
- Prospect fans who've struggled through this long, dark offseason with little top-end talent to talk about will be happy to know that John Sickels's prospect annual is now shipping.
- I was sad to see Kurt Warner retire, but with the danger of concussions seemingly becoming more and more apparent by the day I can't blame him. I don't know much about football, but I'd be hard-pressed to come up with a weirder-looking Hall of Fame career than this one.
- Nothing has ever made me want to be considered a baseball "professional" more than this demo for Bloomberg's new baseball data tool. Make it happen, SBN.
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I personally would rather of had Reed Johnson than someone like Gabe Gross
Reed Johnson might not of been as good of a glove as Gross but he has a better bat. Especially against LHP.
i didn't know
there was such a RJ backlash around here
seems like the perfect guy for the bench/colby backup
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
he's not a great centerfielder and he has a career OPS+ of 95
I’m just not fond of picking up that guy going into his age-33 season.
he could always play right
and luddy center when colby needs a day off. and his career OPS+ of 95 includes a career OPS of .841 v LHP
not shabby for a mil or two
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I'd rather just put Craig in RF, if we are going to spell Colby with Ludwick in CF
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i probably would, too
but i don’t think johnson is a bad pickup as a lefty masher
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Personally,
I would rather bolster the pitching staff than sign 33-year-old Reed Johnson. Ludwick, Rasmus, and Holliday ought to get 550, if not 600+, PAs. (Holliday almost surely will.) We talked about the fourth OFer last week after Edmonds first made his intentions known, but, since then, I think I was wrong. I don’t think we’ll see a So Taguchi in 2005 (over 400 PAs) type of use of the fourth OFer. I think we should bolster the staff. I’d love to see the Cards signs Calero and/or Smoltz. If we are going to get a bench bat, Lopez on a one-year deal would be okay. After all, it would insure against a Freese flop. (Did you see how I did that? Freese flop insured by Floppy…)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I'm going to keep banging a drum for Calero & Floppy until spring
sign those two and we have no obvious weaknesses (barring injuries, esp. to the rotation).
Why would Lopez sign a contract
for a bench, or even a supersub, position? The way he’s hit the last year and half, should have guaranteed him a starting position somewhere. I do not see him accepting this kind of backup position. I would bet he holds out until near the end of ST, when teams start to see holes that still need to be filled.
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 31, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
I think the assumption is that he hits lefty at 3B vs RHP and righty at 2B vs LHP
thus allowing Schu and Freese to both start against pitching that they’re best suited to deal with.
I guess he might get the occasional start in the OF and the occasionaly day off, too, but he’s probably playing 5 times a week and taking 450-500 PAs minimum.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Feb 1, 2010 7:59 AM EST up reply actions
i'd leave holliday in left at all costs
unless we somehow manage to have dye or dunn as OFers
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I have only watched him a little.
And, I have to say that he is better than Chris Duncan, IMO. Yes, that is a very low bar and probably an unhelpful statement, but I wouldn’t be surprised if, were he to play a full season in LF in MLB, that UZR would put him at slightly above-average.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
yeah I agree
and Hinske’s competent in LF (UZR reckons a bit above average) – he’s big and not especially mobile but catches pretty much everything he gets to.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Feb 1, 2010 8:00 AM EST up reply actions
did you know that if Johnson had stayed with Chicago
they could have had an outfield of Nady-Byrd-Johnson. Hah! (ok…stole that one from someone at BCB – incidentally one of the first semi-clever comments I’ve ever seen posted there)
that's funny
especially if they batted in that order:
who’s up this inning?
nady byrd johnson.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'll take Former First Ladies for $200, Alex
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 31, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'll take colors that end in urple
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Jan 31, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is the only color that ends in urple.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Feb 1, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
fine i'll take
words that rhyme with Orange
by TomCat009 on Feb 1, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What is light urple?
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Feb 1, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that's hilarious
but I’m glad it didn’t happen cause imagine what would have happened once Chris Berman heard about it….
Johnson is a common name...
I think there’s a chance to recapture the potential glory there…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
when's the arb deadline?
seems like we haven’t heard much about skip in a while after they were seemingly very close
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
i know
I thought they were close. I want to do a Payroll Matrix
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 31, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
You could do one with a Skippy guess
You know as soon as you post it, they’ll agree to terms.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
Yeah,
You could just provide the range with the Cards’ numer and Skip’s asking price, and then calculate payroll that way, too.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
hearings begin tomorrow.
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Jan 31, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
there'll be this long dirt skidmark
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
haha
skip will slide headfirst into the arbiter’s office
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 31, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
I don't think Byrnes could of been a NRI
Since he already had a major league contract
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 31, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
article says
It should be noted that, despite the pickup, Byrnes is not guaranteed a spot on the team. He will compete with other options in Spring Training and break camp only if he shows that he’s healthy and capable of making a contribution. Because the M’s won’t be on the hook for much money, they have no reason to hang on to Byrnes if , when they see him, they determine that he’s a lost cause.
rich hill was actually a minor league deal, though
this sounds like they’re just not afraid to eat $400,000 if byrnes doesn’t make the team.
i think that's it
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I am not even sure they would be on the hook for that much
If they release him before the end of spring training.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 31, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
Eric Byrnes is one of the worst hitters in baseball
He makes Ankiel look like an All-Star.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 31, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
he would be a good bench bat as well with a .494 slg vs. LHP and .229 BABIP last year.
I think it would’ve been a good gamble.
His BABIP is so low
Because he is that bad of a hitter. He has lead the league in infield popups the last few years. Pretty much the truest sign of a horrible hitter.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 31, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
let me put that in perspective for you
Eric Byrnes lead the league in infield fly balls with a 25.3% which is so high. Guess who was number 2? Joe Thurston with 25%
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 31, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
now that you say it, that is a crappy %, Flam I say you win.
but if his IFFB% is normal vs. LHP I would take it back.
like batted ball or LHP/RHP
Batted Ball I get from fangraphs even though in honestly I am not exactly sure of their numbers. LHP vs RHP I get rom baseball reference.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 31, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
would there be enough data for a significant sample size
reminds me of the argument of Colby’s LD% against LHPs
Some people have their own bowling ball and their own bowling shoes and no friends.
You must be the change you wish to see in the world.
This seems to come up a lot, so I might as well just do this for eveyrone
Can you post exactly what kind of splits you want, and I can calculate them for all players for you and post them in a Google Docs spreadsheat?
by vivaelpujols on Jan 31, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
i don't know why everthing has to be a gamble
i’d like to see us get someone who is a sure thing to strengthen our bench. gambling on a few guys for one spot at the end of the rotation makes sense but i really hope we have a bench this year.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
should he make that much?
i was under the impression that Cabrera was setting the infield market for the rest of the offseason, and the Reds gave him $3 mil w/ a $1 mil buyout for 2011. we should be able to get Felipe for a song, no?
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Jan 31, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
Lopez has to be seen more valuable than Cabrera who is essentially replacement level
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 31, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
so Cabrera was the low end of the market?
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Jan 31, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
O-Dog is the one
everyone is saying the market hinges on
and floppy is the best remaining free agent. he’s worth $10MM in a normal market, i’d say
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
This might be why it is taking so long to negotiate with Schumaker
The market for 2B is so unbelievable low right now
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 31, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
so is belliard the dodgers second baseman?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
after walking away from it and now having returned to it, i finally figured out my problem.
i’m an idiot. as i read and write Cabrera, i’m thinking Hudson. of the Dodgers. of the .342 wOBA in ’09 and .339 in his career.
O. Hudson >/= Floppy >>>> O. Cabrera
/Orlando fail
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Feb 1, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
oh good.
it’s a long and winding road.
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Feb 1, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
i think i can agree with this
flops had a better ‘09, but hudson might be a better bet going forward. and he’s sure to be a type a who cna net a first round pink
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Hudson is never going to get anyone a first round pick again
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 1, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
wat
he’s been a type for 2 years running and he was pretty comfortably a type a this offseason
unless you’re suggesting that he will absolutely not sign a contract without a clause guarnateeing no arb offer if he is a type a
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I don't think being a Type A is the problem
I just don’t think he would decline arbitration
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 1, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
because he
1. will be 34 in February
2. posted an OPS+ of 87 from 2005-2009
3. has struck out more than twice as much as he’s walked for his whole career
4. his projections for 2010 are really ugly
etc.
Sorry, this is something I just can't comprehend, not to go off on you, just the trend as a whole
The guy will be 34, who cares? We aren’t signing him to 7 years. If he were 38 or 40, it would be a bit different, but one year of a guy who will be 34 isn’t detrimental, ESPECIALLY on a minor league deal.
Minor league deals don’t make or break you people.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
By mentioning his age,
it indicates that Reed Johnson is well beyond his peak years. And since he’s a marginal talent, that’s not going to bode well for his future skills.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
they were talking about byrnes
but yeah
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 31, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
Ah. I got my mediocre outfielder threads confused.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
I see that, but
if he isn’t going to age correctly, you should worry about that when players are 38 and 40, not 33 or 34, when they are leaving their prime.
Plus, minor league deals aren’t supposed to be that big of a deal, and i am tired of people being hesitant to do it just because a guy is above 30. People above 30 can contribute and don’t always break down folks.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
See, if I'm signing someone to a minor league deal, I'd like there to be some upside.
There is no upside with Byrnes.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
This.
There’s really very little chance Eric Byrnes would outperform any of the other options the Cardinals have. The only thing Eric Byrnes would bring to the Cardinals in 2010 is a track record of being an awful baseball player who had a couple very mysterious good seasons stuck right in the middle there.
And I don’t think anyone is suggesting you never sign anyone over 30 (Abby Hoffman as GM?), or that a minor league contract is going to significantly affect the team one way or the other. That being said, the upside to signing someone like Byrnes is what exactly? I think that’s the point being made. I understand the concept of insurance and all, but I just don’t see Byrnes being useful in really any way, shape, or form.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
If you put Jay's offense at Thruston level
With his defense he would still be more valuable than Byrnes. He just doesn’t have any upside. While Jay is a player highly reliant on batting avg. To me that means he could be a lucky player at least.
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 1, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Oh herro.
And yes. Thanks for expanding on my snippet.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
Howdy, Spants!
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
abbie hoffman as GM?
Yippie!
"It doesn't have to be terribly prolific! Just so that it isn't childish and silly." She reflected. "I prefer stories about squalor." J.D.S.
wasn't Thurston signed to a minor league contract last year?
Don’t tell me that minor league contracts can’t come back to bite you in the ass
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 31, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
that there's bad and good contracts, and the whole point of signing byrnes
would be to take a gamble.
byrnes is done
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 31, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
I never said that all minor league contracts are bad.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
so you are saying that minor league contracts have made AND broke us?
I can agree with that
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
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by mattyfrommo on Jan 31, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
who was he replacing that was would have been a better fit?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 31, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
I like your answer better though
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
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by mattyfrommo on Jan 31, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
he's not an option at 2b
and wasn’t viewed by the club as an option at 3b
he also hadn’t played a game above AA
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 31, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
but anyone can play second base
even chris duncan. don’t doubt it.
Some people have their own bowling ball and their own bowling shoes and no friends.
You must be the change you wish to see in the world.
Adam Kennedy
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
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by mattyfrommo on Jan 31, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
adam kennedy was released
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 31, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
I know, but was he who Thurston or Barden actualy replaced on the roster?
I say yes, even if we have no actual way of knowing.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 31, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
probably
and glaus/mather/freese
thurston making the team and staying on the team all year was kind of the result of a perfect storm. and considering all that, he was still a tick better than replacement
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 31, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
wow, that kind of makes it sink in just how bad replacement level really is.
considering all that, he was still a tick better than replacement
Albertofstan.
F* Yeah!
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Feb 1, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
that's the problem with too many of these low-risk gambles
seems we just end up going with the best of the bunch, regardless.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yep, coming out of ST last year
both Barden and Thurston had good ST, right? But Craig had an awesome spring as well, and I think we would have been no worse off if he would have been allowed to be on the team all season, instead of one or both of them.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 31, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
I thought the only reason thurston was playing so much was a series of bad luck
Glaus was hurt, then freese was hurt, then Barden started to suck, then DeRosa was hurt. I doubt Byrnes would be starting if we did sign him if a injury occurred.
Have you forgotten how Tony LaRussa runs a team?
i am trying to come up with the last bench player around here that did not get at least a part-time starters # of PA , and I can’t remember a single one. Heck, Nick Stavinoha got 91PA in less than 40 games.
If you are on the bench in St. Louis, you are basically a part-time starter, no? I would love to be proven wrong here.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
I would have to agree with you
But to me the difference between the starting lineup and the bench right now is huge.
Holliday – Craig
Rasmus – Jay
Freese – Gotay
Ryan/Schumaker – Lugo
The only one right now that could possibly make sense is Lugo subbing in for either Ryan or Schumaker. That is ignoring the defensive part also. Now Freese could potentially struggle at the plate. But honestly I can’t see huge alterations on this lineup.
Now looking at the past of TLR should say I should expect to but right now I can’t see it
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 1, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
I think you're all missing the important point here
Eric Byrnes DIVES WHEN HE THROWS A BALL IN FROM THE OUTFIELD. His grittiness is off the charts. Even though he can’t hit the ball out of the infield, Tony would still find a way to play him in the outfield most days and give him about 400 PAs.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Feb 1, 2010 8:06 AM EST up reply actions
I still find it hard to believe that this guy stole 50 bases just 3 years ago,
more than double the previous year, which was his previous high. Pretty suspicious, if you ask me.
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 31, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
To me he fits the profile of a PED user
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 1, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
You're just saying that because he acts and talks like a WWE performer.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
by spants on Feb 1, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Eric Byrnes is fucking terrible.
I’ve been watching him play for the D’Backs for years. They gave him a ridiculous contract after one season that was not pure suckitude and he’s been awful ever since. He shows absolutely no signs of understanding how the game of baseball is played. He seems like a nice guy but seriously, NO. I would flip out if the Cardinals had signed him. Even if it was a MiLB deal. Are we really that desperate?
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Feb 1, 2010 1:38 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
does k. greene still play baseball?
i don’t recall hearing anything about him signing.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he signed a major league contract with the rangers, actually
he’s penciled in as their utility infielder.
interesting
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
spent a lot of time with Cubs fans this weekend.
they refused to talk baseball with me. this season is going to be AMAZING.
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
ridiculous, even.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'm still gonna do some libations for the GOB
although as someone pointed out, we’ve been waiting for this season since 2007, so here’s to that.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Johhny, we hardly knew ye
I’m still beating the drum for John Smoltz. But only as a reliever (set-up man and co-closer with Franklin)
Calero would be an acceptable alternative.
Re 3rdbase and spare OF, I’m very ok with Freese and Craig; one if not both may surprise.
As far as the Byrnes discussion went, no one bothered to mention that the man is crazy!
but smoltz wants to start
he’s willing to sit out a half season if that’s what he needs to do to get a starting job
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
i'd let him start
so long as he’d agree to move to the pen later, perhaps to make room for garcia. this could be as big a sticking point in the negotiations as money, i suppose.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i think he just wants to win
he’s waiting til mid season when the cards have an injury and then signing
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I don't even think we'd need to make that agreement
Consider our current rotation w/Smoltz:
Carpenter
Wainwright
Penny
Lohse
Smoltz
I think it’s a given that one of the first 4 will get injured during the season, which will allow us to call up Garcia without costing Smoltz his spot. Besides, I’m not sure what’s the rush to start Garcia. Dude has pitched ~30 innings in AAA and missed almost all of last year. He’s 23. Smoltz is better than him next year anyways.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 31, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
i have no problem with smoltz starting all year
but i’m not sure that, eventually, he wouldn’t be more valuable to us in the pen. and if garcia is ready then…bring him up.
of course, with any injury to the top 4 smoltz would stay in the rotation.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
...
of course, with any injury to the top 4 smoltz would stay in the rotation.
And I think that is a given. I wouldn’t mind Smoltz in the pen if he was a closer, but Tony’s not gonna do that. Instead he’ll be in middle relief and won’t be of as much value.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 31, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
true enough
like the dodgers series.
i hanker for him to close, but i guess you’re right, tony won’t do it.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i forgot
smoltz was coming out of the pen then
oh, what might have been
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
garcia's thrown 90 innings in AAA
and started 16 games. That’s not an unreasonable amount for someone to be promoted to MLB. Although I take your point (and agree, in fact) that it would be better if he starts the season as our 6th starter.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Feb 1, 2010 8:09 AM EST up reply actions
Relievers seem to be getting way to much money
Franklin was pretty damn good last year and wasn’t even worth one WAR. Any additional reliever, even Kiko would probably be other worth a half win over what we already have. And he would probably cost at least $2.5M. That seems conservative also.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 31, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's safe to say
When WAR is saying that basically every reliever that signs a contract is overpaid, that’s more an indictment of WAR’s handling of leverage than it is seemingly every team, including a lot of “smart” teams.
Not afraid to nitpick
true to an extent
but paying some $10MM to have effect on about 4% of all the innings in the entire season is a little silly IMO
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
i agreed with him
all the way until he got to “WAR means wins above replacement and the closers replacement is the setup guy”
i don’t like that. WAR measures value above a replacement vale player, not specifically the guy that would be the replacement. he’s still right, but i thought that part was kinda dumb
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
No
WAR does mean the guy who would be the replacement. If Albert gets hurt, who replaces him? It’s probably a replacement level guy called up from AAA. Even if it’s Allen Craig and he’s a 2 WAR guy, the difference between the 2 is the difference between Pujols’ WAR and Craig’s. Because of chaining, the replacement for a closer is almost always the setup guy. That’s not true if your starting SS or 3B gets hurt. Think about it, who’s the Cards’ replacement if Rasmus or Freese gets hurt? It’s Jon Jay or Ruben Gotay probably — replacement level, or thereabouts. Who’s Yadi’s replacement? Anderson or Pagnozzi. Pretty close to replacement level.
so
the people who calculate WAR predict who is going to replace a given player and subtract the starter’s WAR from the actual replacement’s WAR?
doesn’t seem like a very uniform way of evaluating players. for instance, WAR would be pretty unfair to a guy like jj hardy in ’09 if you were to try and compare him to boog using WAR calculated in that manner
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 31, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
I think this is wrong
there are more guys worth >0 WAR in baseball than there are spots on MLB rosters. Thus, replacement level is broken. Just setting it arbitrarily 2 wins below average is wrong, IMO.
If pretty much anyone on our roster gets injured, we can call up a replacement who is better than the nominal “replacement level”. This is the case for a majority of MLB teams, I’d have thought.
When guys like Edmonds, Ray Durham etc are having to retire because no-one’s got space for them on an MLB roster, I think it’s fair to say there’s a surfeit of ~1 WAR players around.
I think the chaining part of reliever valuation (as well as the means by which leverage is “calculated”, or, perhaps I should say “guessed”) is ridiculously over-simplified and the whole metric doesn’t seem to do a very good job of pegging a reliever’s value. WAR does a decent job of approximating value, or allowing relievers to be compared, but I think the shortcuts and approximations in the way it’s calculated add up to major errors, especially as the overall numbers (of innings, runs etc) we’re looking at are so small.
This is a bit of a poorly-written argument against RP WAR, actually, I think I made a much better job of explaining my position on it at FG but I don’t really have time to edit this right now…
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Feb 1, 2010 8:16 AM EST up reply actions
Just setting it arbitrarily 2 wins below average is wrong, IMO.
It’s not set that way arbitrarily. I believe (and someone correct me if I’m wrong) it’s empirically based and you have some callups who provide + and some who provide – value but it balances out to a theoretical replacement level player.
But, even if you claim that replacement level is “broken” it doesn’t matter because it’s, essentially, a scalar coefficient. Everyone is being judged by the same baseline so the comparisons are still valid even if it may not function as a salary predictor as perfectly as you’d like. That said, it’s modeled relievers relatively well in the past.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
Yeah I'm not sure I completely buy that arguement
Mainly because of the effects of chaining. When you push everyone up a spot, it makes it less likely for their to be high leverage situations at the end of the game. Simply multiplying the leverage index of the closer, and ignoring the marginal change in leveraged WAR from “previous” inning relievers is a mistake that systematically underrate closers. How much, I don’t know.
Oh, btw, sorry for no post today… again.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 31, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
byrnes
i didn’t want him, but would have been interesting to see how his act played with TLR. of course, boog would somehow manage to take the fall – tbh, not sure i’d want byrnes anywhere near boog.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
So I have been re-watching the show Lost from the beginning
And I have to say I absolutely hate Michael the Angry Black Dude. Seriously, the dude just yells the entire show. By the third day I would of probably just beat the living shit out of him.
I think he does get the shit beat out of him.
several times, right?
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
yeah but pretty much everyone on the show does
Who doesn’t get their ass beat in the show is a better question?
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 1, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions
I am thinking hard about this.
Sun? Has anyone ever beat her up? Maybe Walt? The fact that it’s hard to answer this really says something about the quality of this show.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
A's to sign gabe gross
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/01/athletics-pursuing-gabe-gross.html
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Now we are fucked
Not a decent backup CFer left on the market. I don’t understand this from the A’s perspective though. Don’t they already have too many OFer’s?
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 31, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
baldelli would be all right
he’s a career .831 OPS v LHP. and was sniffing .900 v LHP as recently as ‘08. i’d be okay with him as a cheap pickup if we were going to sign a backup. certainly a better hitter than gross and no slouch on defense. 4.2 career UZR/150 in CF
though, i doubt mo signs someone before mid-ST if at all. almost content to just have jay/craig on the bench and let lud be colby’s platoon partner against tough lefties with jay ready to step in if colby gets hurt
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
last year
he made $500K
i think he’d be a nice pickup even for twice that
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
this is probably a valid concern
i don’t know what his status is
i wish there were a big database of current and past DL stints
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
oh, nice
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 31, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
so, he was day-to-day
on oct 3
he’s an injury risk, but it doesn’t look like he’s currently injured
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 31, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
August 10, 2008 Missed 116 games (fatigue).
haha, wow
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 31, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
apparently, being tired is exhausting
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i'm gonna call into work tomorrow
and tell them i won’t be in for the next four months because i’m tired
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 31, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
He is ill
he has a chronic mitochondrial condition of some sort.
They can be very serious.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Feb 1, 2010 8:18 AM EST up reply actions
he's not an injury risk
he has a condition that doesn’t allow him to play every day. I wish I remembered the name but it causes him to be too fatigued to play too often. He did miss that many games due to fatigue. He’d be a perfect platoon guy against lefties b/c he’d play 40-50 times per year and be pretty good when he played. He’s an ideal 4th OF for us or most any team.
did he ever make it through a whole game last year?
not that he would have to – just curious.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
They thought it was mitochondrial, but it ended up
being some type of channelopathy.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
Read the whole comment thread, dummy!
Before you look like a horses ass!
/in case anyone isn’t aware, I’m talking to myself, not spants
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 31, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
I thought you were changing your avatar?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 31, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Huh?
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 31, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
interesting
like i said, i know nothin about the guy except what his stats say. and that he has a cool name
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 31, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
It's a mitochondrial disorder
His mitochondria don’t work as well as they should, and that causes him extreme fatigue.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 31, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
That is only part of the problem
He had tons of injury issues last year and none them were due to fatigues. They were all due to various leg issues.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 31, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Actually,
I believe it’s thought that’s part of the issue. The disorder in question not only causes fatigue, it causes muscles and the like to not function properly, making him more susceptible to injuries. (Muscle injuries, that is. Cartilage and the like isn’t affected.) At least, that was the last I had heard; the story could be different now.
Really a tragedy; Baldelli is one of the most unbelievably talented ballplayers I’ve ever seen in my life.
And for the record, I think he’d be a really nice pickup for the Cardinals, who shouldn’t need as many plate appearances from the backups this year as in seasons past.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
i guess for cheap it could not hurt
I am still worried about backup CFer. I just don’t have faith in Ludwick being able to play CF at all. Maybe 3 or 5 games a year. But not much more.
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 1, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
then
i don’t see how you could dislike baldelli at $1MM or less
maybe incentives that bring him up to 1.5 with so many PAs. 300?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
It is sad.
I had such hopes for Rocco. I’d be happy if the Cards picked him up. He certainly has a better chance at helping the team than Eric Byrnes.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
We're fucked because we didn't get Gabe MF-in' Gross?
I’ll take Felipe Lopez and Allen Craig over any combination with Gross. Besides it’ll be nice no to have to hear read all the horrible puns and/or nicknames everyone would have come up with. At least I’m already used to “Floppy”
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Feb 1, 2010 1:52 AM EST up reply actions
sounds like travis buck is available
to make room for gross.
don’t know much about him, except that he was a top prospect and is still young enough.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
instant nickname: No Relation?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 31, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
ha
took me awhile to get that.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
well lesee
Jack was the 3rd of 7, and he had 8 kids… (or seven plus Joe if you’re into math). So it’s a fair distinction.
(If you wanna get poetic about it, we’re all Jack’s.)
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 31, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm.
Awfully quiet in here tonight. A little too quiet, if you ask me… Is everyone busy trying to drink away the memory of that farce that was the 2009 Grammys?
Make way for the Homo Superior.
people watch the grammys?
i’m sitting here staring out the window waiting for spring
and being marginally emo
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I still do; I can't help myself.
I hate watching it, I hate the awards, I hate the people they give them to. But I watch every single effing year. It’s like having a toothache, and you just keep poking at it with your tongue, even though it only makes it worse.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
as your lawyer
I would advise you to get a praline concrete and watch any Jim Jarmusch you can easily obtain
ghost dog!
i was about to declare “george washington,” but wisely decided to google and he did not direct that movie
what other JJ films would i like based on my love of ghost dog?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Dead Man
is most like that one but I really liked Down by Law mostly because I am a Tom Waits fanboy I haven’t seen The Limits of Control but it looks awesome
i think i might actually have that
and never got around to watching it. lemme imdb real quick. okay, no i think i was thinking of somehting else and don’t feel like hooking up my HDD to find out. johnny depp, though? sounds like i need to update my queue
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Nah.
They’re sort of in that Great White Hope category right now, kind of like the Strokes were right after This Is It.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
I've been going crazy over here.
How do I go without baseball for this long every year?!
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
I don't watch the Grammys or follow pop music, but even I know Lady Gaga got robbed.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
Good thing I'm drinking...
or these two comments may have caused an aneurysm…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
I am also shocked.
Her voice irks me. Yet I still have some of her songs. They’re just so darn catchy.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I've only heard the two biggest songs.
But they both get stuck in my head for days if I catch any part of them.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
Oh my gosh.
I know. I heard that Bad Romance song once and I could not get it out of my head for like a month. I finally broke down and bought it. That’s how the other two went basically but they were only in my head for like 2 weeks.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
If I remember correctly,
it’s a very old word for prostitute, but a particular type. More like a harem member or consort. I could be wrong, though.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't
argue with the quality but where I am from it is not pejorative, more familiar than anything.
I think we know the next person on the to be stabbed list...
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
I can't stab someone named TomCat double-O-nine.
I just can’t.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
He would stab you
don’t all double 0’s have a licence to kill?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Now, don't quote me on that.
I’m not pulling out my dictionary of archaic words for prostitutes.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions
I'll be sure to note that in the official complaint.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
I just assume that these
Tarts actually enjoy being called Bints, I mean why should should any slag be offended by that?
by TomCat009 on Feb 1, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Sweeeet.
I’m reccing this as hard as I can.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
(joke about "hard" "weeping" and "ED")
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
by spants on Feb 1, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm also reccing the living hell out of this post.
And asking it whose post this is, loudly.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
I always thought gillie meant
like a scout or a hunter. What snipers wear to cover themselves is called a gillie suit.
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 1, 2010 1:51 AM EST up reply actions
ghillie, I think it's spelt in that usage
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Feb 1, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
I don't own anything by her.
I do, however, prefer Eric Cartman’s version of Poker Face to hers, and it isn’t even close.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
not sure if you've seen it
but you may enjoy this.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
That is rather nice.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
catchy doesn't equal or imply good
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
She moved a lot of records this year.
The music industry should give Gaga her dues.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
Selling records doesn't imply talent...
I’ve always taken the stance of if the world is going one way go the other… So far it’s served me well. I only listen to music I won’t be ashamed to look back on in 15 years. I don’t feel that way about Lady Gaga…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
I listen to all sorts of shameful music when I'm at the gym.
Gaga is good gym music. Also good driving with the sunroof open music. But that’s about it.
I mean, she’s better than most pop music, like Britney or (gag) Heidi Montag for crying out loud. Someone has to like pop music so that all these fringier bands can have fans.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
That came across as a tallest midget argument to me
but to each their own…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
We're talking about the freaking Grammys.
By default, aren’t we talking about the tallest midgets?
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
i love pop music
pop music doesn’t have to mean bad top 40 music
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
What do you consider good pop music?
And I disagree… the record companies pretty much dictate that pop music is top 40… but that’s just my opinion…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
All top 40 is pop music.
Not all pop music is Top 40.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
off the top of my head based on what i've been listening to recently,
the xx
thomas function
the exploding hearts
the flaming lips
yo la tengo
i dunno, etc. it’s a pretty broad genre
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Fair enough
just curious
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Thomas Function
are really good, though I find myself wondering why all their songs can’t be as good as Lights Down Low when I listen to them.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
i dunno
i gotta nominate relentless machines or swimming through a sea of broken glass as my favorites
very cool that you listen to them, though
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
true
I don’t find her any more offensive than say Kylie Minogue, that said my tastes run more towards something with a little more soul.
i haven't heard lady aga
but i freaking love that one song by kylie minogue
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
The one you can't get out of your head?
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
by spants on Feb 1, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And I still say
this version is way better.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
I tried the weeping thing at the gym.
People were very confused. I got first dibs on all the equipment, though!
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
Nice.
I find copious weeping solves most of life’s problems, really. Except erectile dysfunction. That totally doesn’t get any easier when you cry.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
Well, that's one problem that this classy whore doesn't have to deal with.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
Wow.
I am sooo uncomfortable right now.
You should be proud. This is the third time in my life I’ve actually regretted an avenue of conversation in 29 years.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, and Mazel Tov
on the functional Mr. Spants wang. Good to hear.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not necessarily...
didn’t spants say she got tired of looking for a job… just sayin maybe she found another income source…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
is he your buddy
Some people have their own bowling ball and their own bowling shoes and no friends.
You must be the change you wish to see in the world.
She's not a guy
friend…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
but i had to use the joke, didn't I?
call it poetic license?
Some people have their own bowling ball and their own bowling shoes and no friends.
You must be the change you wish to see in the world.
Except you could have gone friend...
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
but thats not the order of the joke is it?
I demand order in my joviality!
Some people have their own bowling ball and their own bowling shoes and no friends.
You must be the change you wish to see in the world.
Depends where you are...
there is a buddy, friend in there…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
i am enlightened

Some people have their own bowling ball and their own bowling shoes and no friends.
You must be the change you wish to see in the world.
You'll have a headache anyways...
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
It's not like I was there anyways...
damned moving…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Aw man. I thought you'd laugh, not wince.
Now I’m uncomfortable!
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
Well, to be fair,
I did laugh. Then winced. Then laughed again. Then turned to my cat and made a face. Then laughed again. Then winced again. And finally began typing.
Then laughed again.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
I should play a drinking game with this...
drink every time you read laugh or wince… I’d be feeling pretty good soon…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Who
could have possibly anticipated that a subthread centering around ED would become uncomfortable?
We thought the commercials made it acceptable to discuss.
They did not.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
Wait!!!
you mean to tell me that the commercial with the guy throwing the football at the tire swing might have had some double meaning?
by TomCat009 on Feb 1, 2010 1:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I still don't get that
commercial I mean how come at the end he can consistently drill it in there…. OHHHH!!! that is messed up
by TomCat009 on Feb 1, 2010 1:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Tee-hee.
My favourite is that new one where the guy is talking to his reflection. There’s something about a schizophrenic who can’t get it up that’s just, just great.
I’m hoping desperately for a grown-up Davey and Goliath ad for Viagra soon.
“Geez, Goliath, I don’t know. I really don’t feel right about talking about, you know, that.”
“C’mon, Davey, how are we supposed to cleanse the world in blood and fire if you can’t even shut the old lady up for half an hour?”
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:39 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I like when he high fives the window.
If I saw that on the street I would cross the street. Immediately.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Feb 1, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't.
I would go and try to strike up a conversation with him, post haste.
“Dude, did your reflection just tell you it was tired of being the shadow of half a man too? God, I’m so tired of hearing that! But we’ll fix them, won’t we? We’ll fix them aaaaalllllll.”
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:42 AM EST up reply actions
Oh my gosh.
I almost said post haste instead of immediately.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Does it frighten you
to know how much alike we think? Because if it doesn’t, it most definitely should.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:45 AM EST up reply actions
You're totally inside her head man...
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
If we only think alike in word choice
I think I might be okay.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
See, that's how it starts.
But that’s never, ever how it ends.
Before long, you’ll find yourself looking longingly at water towers, wondering just how many-
Nevermind. Forget I said anything.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
The water towers off Grand?
Because, well, you know.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
Ooh, those are good ones!
But really, all water towers have their attractions. For instance, the one in Arnold, you can’t see the top of at night. So it would take even longer before they could locate the source of the shots. Now, moving out into more rural areas, such as the Farmington tower, you have a nice, flat surface to work with, so maneuverability would be a real boon there.
But in the end, there’s just something classy and elegant about the old style towers. Just a really great place to stage a blaze of glory end to the voices in my head who accuse me of needing pharmaceutical assistance in the pants region.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:52 AM EST up reply actions
You'd need to grab him by the lapels and shake him while you say all that.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
Nah.
I’ll grab his reflection by the lapels instead. That’ll get his attention.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:45 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm personally hoping
they ruin some old shows from the 50s that way…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Feb 1, 2010 1:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I know if Barney Fife
endorsed some weiner pills I’d buy them if the need arose… or failed to arise… not sure how to word that one…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Incidentally
“Confide In Me” by Kylie Minogue might be one of the best songs ever.
She also duetted with Nick Cave on the unbelievably good “Where The Wild Roses Grow”.
Given her squeaky-clean pop image, to have had two hits with a song about phone sex and a man murdering an “innocent” girl character is pretty surprising, really.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Feb 1, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
Wow.
This is the second time in like a week that the song Can’t Get you Out of My Head has come up on a baseball blog. Wonder what the odds are against that?
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
i was talking about love at first sight
but thanks, asshole. now i’m not going to bed because i’m going on a kylie minogue marathon
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I didn't.
I right clicked it, and then thought better of it.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
I like that song though.
I hope they bring it back or have another just as silly rap next year.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Don't worry spants
This joke did not go un-rec’d!
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
my only association with that song is that she was on SNL with ian mckellan
and sang that song. he introduced her like a giggling schoolboy — from a shakespearean actor-englishman-70yearold, that was impressive.
"It doesn't have to be terribly prolific! Just so that it isn't childish and silly." She reflected. "I prefer stories about squalor." J.D.S.
Oh my gosh Heidi Montag is disgusting.
Gaga is very good gym music.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
A friend of mine came over the other night and played a few Heidi songs.
The worst shit I have ever heard. Ever.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
I got through about 30 seconds of her first single.
And then I wanted to throw up.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
She is a good example
of why free speech isn’t all it’s cracked up to be…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
15 years from now
you’ll likely be amazed at how “what you’re embarrassed about” has changed.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
I'm looking back on stuff I listened to in 94 and 95
and am proud to say I listened to it then. The Offspring, Dookie album, early Foos, Nirvana, Alice In Chains…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
I listened to Ace of Base in 1994
Life well spent!
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Feb 1, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
I didn't say you were
your point just gave me a good sounding wall.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
You know who I like: Sara Bareilles.
You know who is a travesty: Ke$ha.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
No clue who either of those people are
granted I don’t know much music after 98 or so… and even that is alternative and that’s about it outside of the few bands I enjoy who are currently around.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Sara Bareilles had at least one popular song out about a year ago called Love Song.
She is a singer/songwriter/pianist. She’s just talented.
Ke$ha spells her name with a dollar sign. Which should be a red flag. And then there’s this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP6XpLQM2Cs
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That is epic awesome...
This is a fine example of a parody of music…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Again catchy.
So again, sadly, on my iPod. Only for when I need to play a crazy song.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I wouldn't give it catchy...
I’d give it ironic hipster “I love bad music” status on the iPod… but that’s just me.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Nothing.. remember I've been drinking
if you need another reason to dislike her… she apparently likes bacon (this applies only to cgirly)
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Sort of like people who have
Sheena Easton’s “Morning Train” on their iPod and listen to it in that detached, ironic way hipsters have of enjoying things which aren’t actually enjoyable. It’s an appallingly bad song, goes the thought, but it’s just so cheesy and stupid, how can you not enjoy it? It’s kitsch, camp, the ludicrously tragic, the tragically ludicrous, et al.
Like when a clown dies.
Note: the author of this comment love Morning Train in a totally non-ironic way.<?em>
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:36 AM EST up reply actions
I am not detached at all when I listen to that song.
It usually involves jumping around or walking really fast because I can’t jump to my classes.
Although I do find it hilarious.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Now something tragically awesome is the Bloodhound Gang
those guys are lyrical geniuses… Although I have a feeling similar opinions will not be shared by most of VEB…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
I loved
One Fierce Beer Coaster. Since then, the quality of their work has been steadily degrading, I think.
Still, you have to admire a career going on a decade and a half now built almost entirely on dick jokes.
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
I can see that.
I usually don't mind the music subthreads
but when people start talking about Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga, I know it is time for me to grab a drink.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
i found this laughter-inducing
Some people have their own bowling ball and their own bowling shoes and no friends.
You must be the change you wish to see in the world.
I saw that Lady Gaga
was nominated for Grammys and won a couple of them before the big show and decided that Grammys now mean nothing. I find her nonsense to be a parody of music…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
but seriously
when do pitchers and catchers report again?
i promise not to ask for at least 5 more minutes
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
but it was 3 weeks 2 weeks ago!
you’re thinking of the first ST game, surely
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I believe it's about 16 days right now, but don't quote me on that.
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
And I see I was not only too slow, but also incorrect.
Damn my feeble brain.
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
Well it's 16 depending on how you count it.
So we can both be right.
And where I am it is actually 16. But my white board still says 17.
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Hooray!
Sweet, sweet pity. Where would my life be without it?
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
17 days.
Matty must live double the amount of days the rest of do.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
It's also the number of days until the men's short program in the Olympics!
See this year I also have the Olympics to get me through the very end of the off season. Which is very convenient.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I was talking about Figure Skating.
And Evan Lysacek.
But, yes, guys do do gymnastics.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Guys do figure skating?????
Huh! I would have never guessed, I mean obviously couples skating but solo? huh!
Sometimes they look like this:
But too often they look like this:

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i'm pretty sure that second one is a chick
a pretty hot one, no less
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Feb 1, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
wait
oh
ohh
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Feb 1, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that if I have to
choose my own cellmate I would rather he looked like that, rather than say Michael Clarke Duncan
Michael Clarke Duncan could protect you, though.
From everyone and everything.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
Even Johnny Weir?
(The boy (that many of you at first glance thought was a girl) in the picture above for those of you who don’t know)
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I didn't think he was a girl.
I said I didn’t care. Totally different situation.
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this guy would raise his hand
but they’re occupied at the moment

Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Feb 1, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
I just wanted him to feel better when he found out it was 17 days
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
i hope the schedule is wrong
and more than exactly 1 ST game will be available on mlb.tv
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
speaking of which, i don't remember
are there at least radio broadcasts of all the ST games?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Also,
I think this comment just sunk in and I hope the schedule is wrong too. That would annoy me.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
The Indians have a grand total of 0 according to that schedule.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
actually, i was wrong
2 are on espn and 0 are listed as mlb.tv
surely i can get the espn broadcasts on mlb.tv if i’m “out of the country,” thoguh
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I saw a commercial for mlb.tv advertising that all 150 ST games would be available.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
That would be brilliant.
Quickly, find me proof of this, someone!
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:48 AM EST up reply actions
this might make me buy mlb.tv instead of extra innings this year.
i guess i can plug my computer into my TV anyway…
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
I did that last season until I got cable.
I might pay for this for a month or so just to get ST games.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
oh, that's a good idea.
I forgot that you can pay monthly. I will do that, and if plugging my computer into my TV proves to be a pain in the ass, I will get the cable package instead. brilliant, Spants.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
you can get this thing
call roku for like $100 that will allow you to stream mlb.tv, plus other stuff like netflix to your tv in higher quality than you could get on your computer. plus mlb.tv is way cheaper than EI
or you could just get a cheapo computer on craigslist specifically for this purpose. because really, switching between veb and the game really sucks
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Roku streams mlb.tv?
That’s cool.
And you totally need a spare computer, unless you are anti-gamethreads.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
yeah
i’ve been prowling CL and debating whether i just want to build something nice. i probably won’t get roku, but it’s something for the non-techie person to consider
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
REALLY, THOUGH
it would be awesome if mlb would work somethin out with sony so i could stream with my ps3. if netflix can do it, mlb can
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
i have an awesome set up
I got my computer hooked up to my TV with a bluetooth keyboard
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 1, 2010 2:15 AM EST up reply actions
I do both on one computer.
You just have to watch the game half screen.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
On my computer.
I have the game thread on half of the screen and then the game(s) on the other side. Sometimes I maximize the game for awhile.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
We were talking about running the game through the computer to the TV.
Might be a little weird half screen, unless you have an enormous TV.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
actually
now that i think about it, i was doing this for a while. dual monitor with my tv as the second monitor. thing is, that flash player can’t be full screen while you’re doing something else. so it was just a window in the middle of my tv. better than nothing, but i want better this year
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
actually, you can...
make flash work full screen by using a hex editor to change a value in a .dll. It’s really easy, just google “flash full screen bug” for how-to’s.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
I thought you were saying to use mlb.tv you have to have an extra computer.
I guess I misunderstood. It would be about the same I think on a computer screen.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
My TV would replay the game great.
But the game threads wouldn’t be legible from my couch, especially at half screen.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
Oh well I live in a tiny dorm room so my TV is really close to where I sit.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Well I live in a spacious basement, which is below my mom's quarters.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
I wish my mother had a basement for me to live in.
Sadly, her house features only a crawlspace. I’m so tired of millipedes.
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 2:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, those things are gross.
And I would never live in my mom’s basement. It’s creepy down there.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
Watch out for the radon
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Radon!
Awesome. No one I’ve ever shown that to finds it funny except me. Are you my soul mate?
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 2:14 AM EST up reply actions
Only with the right pills?
Wait that didn’t work right… And what are you referring to?
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Oh, never mind.
On one of the Aqua Teen Hunger Force DVDs, one of the extra features is a film Dave Willis and Matt Maillero made, called Radon. It’s about a creature called Radon which lives in the basement and kills people.
I feel bad about myself now.
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 2:17 AM EST up reply actions
Pardon me,
it’s Raydon, actually, and here it is.
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 2:19 AM EST up reply actions
I've watched a lot of Aqua Teen... just never the DVDs
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
ahhh Aqua Teen Hunger Force made me remember
To never forget 1/31/07
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 1, 2010 2:22 AM EST up reply actions
Oh man was that hilarious...
Can’t believe that was 3 years ago…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
yeah, i think this would not go well if i was trying to do it on the tv.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
It's okay.
You get used to it. If y’all wouldn’t talk so much I could take breaks. Geez…
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
oh yeah.
I hadn’t thought of the game thread factor. damn. and it wouldn’t be cheaper to get mlb.tv if I also had to buy this roku thing. AND if I have to buy another computer as well!
EI it is, then. i really wanted to get satellite so I could just get FSN midwest and see the pregame/post game stuff but apparently they black out the actual games. bastards.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
isn't EI
like $250?
mlb.tv is around $100 and you could get a decent cheap PC on craigslist for $50 if you live in a metro area
if $100 isn’t an obstacle and you already have satellite, though, EI would probably save you at least a couple headaches. i know they were debuting a new player, but mlb.tv was a little rough the first couple weeks of the ’09 season
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Yeah, but I'm always leery of dealing on Craigslist.
If the rest of my dealings are any indications, that computer isn’t going to look anything like you were told it would when it shows up on your doorstep.
It’ll probably end up giving you herpes, too.
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 2:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What in the hell
do you do with your computers sicko?
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
I defrag them bitches
all day and all night, son.
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 2:06 AM EST up reply actions
ask the toaster.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Feb 1, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
So THAT'S what virus protection is for.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
by spants on Feb 1, 2010 2:08 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Sadly, no matter what version of Norton I run,
they don’t seem to be able to get rid of this rash.
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 2:09 AM EST up reply actions
Norton is a virus. That's you're whole problem there.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
At least you failed the right way.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Using you're instead of your
is much more excusable in my book than the other way around. Shows that you are at least aware of the difference.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Ah.
I thought you meant failing into bed was the right way.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
Nah...
nor do I endorse failing in bed…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Well then, do I have a pill for you.
And that is what we call full circle.
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 2:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I almost said
that’s what we call coming full circle, but I thought with the subject matter, that word choice was just asking for trouble.
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 2:15 AM EST up reply actions
He'd reached the point of no return.
(ha ha)
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
by spants on Feb 1, 2010 2:17 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
This is the best comment
in the history of VEB. Congratulations, Spants.
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 2:18 AM EST up reply actions
Good stuff right there...
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
I have a bunch of ideas for a comment here,
all of them blue. i don’t know which one to choose! So I’ll just say thanks.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
No, thank you.
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 2:22 AM EST up reply actions
wait for it...
coming full circle? Yeah I’ll just go ahead and not talk for the next 5 minutes after that one…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Oh, my.
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 2:21 AM EST up reply actions
now you know why
I am glad I come here
by TomCat009 on Feb 1, 2010 2:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And another brilliant comment.
I can only hope it was on purpose.
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 2:24 AM EST up reply actions
I had
a teacher with that unfortunate east coast tendency to add an ER sound to the end of words that end in A so maria became maryer needless to say that when he explained the value of Beta testing their was enough suppressed giggling to get half of us sent to dentention
I could have linked
to the wikipedia page… and not for the song. But I enjoy not being banned. Warning don’t go there if you are not prepared to see some things you can’t unsee.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
You watched it!
You can’t unwatch it!
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 2:26 AM EST up reply actions
Woo you threw down the easy alley oop...
good job.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Slightly less skill than throwing a football through a tire swing.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
it is
sub-threads like this that makes this my favorite place on the interwebs
by TomCat009 on Feb 1, 2010 2:18 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
We're glad to have you
or at least I am.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
So you're telling me
Norton 360 is the reason it burns so badly when I pee? Oh, thank god. I thought I was going to have to stop going to Thailand each summer.
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 2:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you can look at it before you buy it
i’ve had nothin but good buys on cl
never bought any electronics, though
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
last year EI was $160 with the early bird special.
and mlb.tv premium is $120. but the nice thing is you can chose to watch the Cardinals broadcast instead of whichever one EI wants to show me.
well shit. i guess i need to buy another computer then.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
actually
cheapest roku player is $80
http://www.roku.com/roku-products
i was thinking it had dvr functionality, too, but i might have been wrong
http://www.roku.com/mlb-partner
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Arigato.
This is the best day of my life. Literally. (Yes, that does make me somewhat sad.)
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by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:52 AM EST up reply actions
check it
http://www.mlb.com/mediacenter/index.jsp?ymd=20100304
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
clicking through the schedule
looks like at least most cards games will be available
i freaking love you, mlb
only a month until i can watch real baseball!
and no blackouts for all yout stlers out there!
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
HFS
why is there an exhibition on the 13th at 1am! eastern time. that’s still 10pm pacific!
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I hate to break it to you.
But I don’t think this means what you think it means.
There aren’t any check marks under the different feeds. I don’t think they’ve decided which ST games they are releasing yet.
And it says over 150 ST games which is not all of them. It depends on which games each local station is going to show. Like STO only shows some Indians games in ST and MLB.TV only shows those (not all) and any that the other station may have.
If that made any sense….
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
That's fine but we don't even which games they're showing yet.
I’m just saying it’s not every ST game.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
if there's a game every day
i’ll be happy. not as happy as if it were a cards game every day and not quite as happy as if it were one of a cards, mets, rays or rangers game every day, but i just want baseball
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Well then you should be set,
Because I think they have a game one every day. I would watch some of them last year too. Especially Rangers games, I love their announcers.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
plus this
if i actually had the chance, i would watch the shit out of cubs baseball right now. baseball is baseball right now
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
let's not go crazy here
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
I spent a summer in Champaign and that was the only option...
now I know how heroin addicts feel.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
its still an average of 10 games for each team.
better than nothing, right?
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Yeah.
And this was fine for me last year. And the radio is nice. Reminds me of home.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I actually am restoring one
of these it reminds me of listening to games with my grandpa, something about a baseball lends itself to radio broadcast.
well
i don’t think any cards ST game i watched last year with the exception of maybe one or two was actually televised. most of them will probably be mlb.tv exclusive with mlb announcers
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
They show a few on Newschannel 5, the local NBC affiliate.
Jay Randolph FTL.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
yeah
that’s what i remember
does shannon do the ST radio broadcasts?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
No.
They’re the local stations. I watched all of the Indians ones and quite a few of the Cardinals ones last year.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Only if Gary Thorne is announcing though
I remember one several years back with the following call… That one’s back but… GONE!!! Let’s stick to hockey Gary…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Better than It's outta he-
I mean Granderson catches it.
/Hammy (Indians announcer, every fly ball)
/the guy who was ready to call Grady’s game winning home run this season that Granderson stole while simultaneously ripping my and every Indians fan’s heart out and stomping on it with his cleats, I think his name started with a P. (Did you get all of that?)
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
i would cry tears of happy
really
that’s truly bonus baseball. even though i’d be in school during over half of them.
man
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
well groundhog's day is tuesday
if he sees his shadow, there’ll be three more months of off-season
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Feb 1, 2010 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this scared the hell out of me as well
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
saw the movie (G-hog day) for the first time this weekend
I had been totally missing out on a classic.
Some people have their own bowling ball and their own bowling shoes and no friends.
You must be the change you wish to see in the world.
I just watched it for the first time a couple of months ago. I have no idea how I avoided it.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
I feel like it's on TBS five times a day
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Feb 1, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
i'm convinced it was some sort of conspiracy to make me suffer
or something like that
Some people have their own bowling ball and their own bowling shoes and no friends.
You must be the change you wish to see in the world.
have you ever seen
the Jim Gaffigan bit about watching a movie and really liking it but not being able to talk about it because it came out 6-7 years ago?
i've seen Jim Gaffigan talk about hot pockets and bacon
that is it.
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Feb 1, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
The having fun on your birthday bit is good too.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
I miss Hedberg
that man perfected delivery of jokes.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Escalators cannot break
they can only become stairs. “Escalator temporarily stairs, We apologise for this convenience”
I used to do drugs.
I still do, but I used to too. Whenever I heard he died me and a guy I worked with sat around that nite just telling his jokes back and forth… the man was a talent.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
a better collection
of Non Sequiturs I never heard, I am actually shocked American audiences appreciated him.
He definately had a niche...
I’m willing to bet a lot of Blue Collar fans wouldn’t get it…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
I never found his work....
until about a month before he died. And then I was pissed.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I could see that...
I went to a Comedy Central show with him, Lewis Black and Dave Attell. Good times there.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
It was like....
I have found my comedy God…….wait he’s dead….fuck you Mitch…Lenny Bruce too.
This is possibly my favorite one liner:
My friend asked me if I wanted a frozen banana, I said “No, but I want a regular banana later, so … yeah”.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
And I've seen that show on DVD
would have been awesome…3 of my top 5 comedians right there.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i have a bit of a gripe, windows
it’s 2010. this is windows 7. i should be able to use the little calendar on the bottom right to add reminders and events. every phone i’ve had for the last 10 years has had this functionality. do i really have to download an application to run in the background to tell me the 4 or 5 dates per year that i have to remember?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
why
couldn’t you guys be this active when i was at work and had nothing better to do instead of when i am trying to convince myself to go to bed
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Sportspickle quote
I am excited to sign with the Brewers. I think I can still dive unnecessarily for balls as well as I ever could.
- Jim Edmonds
It's funny cause it's true...
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
us
sweet now we can sign him to a well below market and stick it to boras just like we did with holliday!
wait
oh
…
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Something seems off.
Shouldn’t Eff, gdm, and slu be here somewhere? Odd that the rest of us are around and those three aren’t. They’re typically all over the late nights.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
gdm hasn't been around for a few days. I think he's mourning Howard Zinn.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
Every time i heard
Howard Zinn’s death being announced the book Howard’s End popped into my head very distracting
I'm sure you're right.
By the way, who would have thought dead liberals would be one of his buttons?
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:57 AM EST up reply actions
Just wait until-
On second thought, I’m going to just censor myself before I finish this comment. It’s better that way.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 1:59 AM EST up reply actions
opposite night?
I am here solely to elongate the procrastination of my American Revolution homework
Some people have their own bowling ball and their own bowling shoes and no friends.
You must be the change you wish to see in the world.
Hehehehe
Elongate
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Feb 1, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
I've been up since 6 this morning.
That is way too long for me. Good night VEB.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
'Night, Clemson.
Sweet dreams.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 2:20 AM EST up reply actions
That is was...
have a good one
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Good night, Spants.
And thanks for the readership, milady. Always appreciated.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 2:40 AM EST up reply actions
I have to say I am impressed
I go away for an hour, and you people pull off one of the finest hours in VEB late night history.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Nice to see you're getting in the game
with your choice of wording…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Feb 1, 2010 2:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't even see what I did there
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
It was rather nice, wasn't it?
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 2:38 AM EST up reply actions
That's what she said?
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Depends
and Spants beat me to the joke. Boo.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 2:40 AM EST up reply actions
It's better for the gal to be quicker.
OKAY THAT IS IT FOR ME, FOLKS.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
Yes, but only if she's willing
to make a bunch of jokes. If she makes just the one then wants to go write some more on her own, not so much.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Feb 1, 2010 2:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Or really sad...
I don’t know which.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
HFS I just read through the entire thread
VEB seems collectively “frustrated”
"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~
by YesWeOquendo on Feb 1, 2010 3:08 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Alright, that's it for me.
I’m going to bed now as well. Speak kindly of me when I’m gone.
Make way for the Homo Superior.

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