Scott Rolen as George Sisler
by DanUpBaby on Jan 26, 2010 3:56 AM EST
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PrintI'm glad the detour from today's baseball inaction was well-regarded, because I enjoyed writing it—and also because the brief Scott Rolen detour made me want to think more about Scott Rolen, Former Hall-of-Fame-caliber Third Baseman.
There's no right way to start, with these, so I started with cardball's suggestion—how does the good Scott Rolen compare to Mike Schmidt? The go-to move, as an avowed peak-over-career partisan, is each player's best five year run.
| YR | G | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | AVG | OBP | SLG | OPS+ | TZ | WAR |
| 2000 | 128 | 483 | 88 | 144 | 32 | 6 | 26 | 89 | 51 | 99 | .298 | .370 | .551 | 129 | 9 | |
| 2001 | 151 | 554 | 96 | 160 | 39 | 1 | 25 | 107 | 74 | 127 | .289 | .378 | .498 | 127 | 10 | |
| 2002 | 155 | 580 | 89 | 154 | 29 | 8 | 31 | 110 | 72 | 102 | .266 | .357 | .503 | 129 | 13 | |
| 2003 | 154 | 559 | 98 | 160 | 49 | 1 | 28 | 104 | 82 | 104 | .286 | .382 | .528 | 138 | -1 | |
| 2004 | 142 | 500 | 109 | 157 | 32 | 4 | 34 | 124 | 72 | 92 | .314 | .409 | .598 | 157 | 27 |
Rolen at his best was an all-star caliber corner outfielder who played brilliant defense at a more premium position, which is definitely a Hall of Fame combination. But while he was always among the best-hitting third basemen at his peak, he was rarely a cut above, often behind fluke years (Bill Mueller, Adrian Beltre), immobile future first basemen (Phil Nevin, Miguel Cabrera, Garrett Atkins), and Chipper Jones and Alex Rodriguez. Among third basemen in the aughts his best years rank ninth, 23rd, 34th, 35th, 44th, and 48th in OPS+ (he also managed 13th and 45th in the nineties.) That's good, and nobody's defensive value approaches his, but it's not the positional dominance existed by peak cases like... well, Jim Edmonds, who ranks 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 6th, 8th, and 13th among center fielders from 2000 to 2009.
Given Rolen's reputation as the perhaps the best third baseman since Brooks Robinson, the way his peak extends two years or so in the other direction, and the way he's progressed post-injury—considerably better than George Sisler, if not as well as alternate-universe Scott Rolens have made out—that's not a bad run on which to hang a Hall of Fame career.
And now—look, I've cheated. I looked at the numbers already. Rolen at his best was clearly not as good as Mike Schmidt as his best. Schmidt led the league in OPS five times, took eight home run crowns, four RBI titles. He wasn't as good a fielder as Scott Rolen, but he was good enough. George Brett and Eddie Mathews, too, were simply too brilliant offensively to match up to Rolen.
The problem for Scott Rolen—and Ron Santo, and Ken Boyer—is that there's not much in the way of second tier talent in the Hall at third base. First basemen like Keith Hernandez compete with lesser lights like Harmon Killebrew or Tony Perez; the last second underserving or even questionably deserving third baseman elected was George Kell, who retired in 1957. Hall of Fame third basemen, by and large, are either forgotten or considerably better than Scott Rolen. It's an awkward place to be.
Rolen's already a fair comparison to Ron Santo, the gold standard of third basemen who are not as good as the third basement that get elected in the recent climate. But if you look at Rolen compared to other players, at better-represented positions, he looks like a much better candidate. You'll find him on the WAR list next to Ryne Sandberg, Dave Winfield, and other solidly-in candidates in recent memory. On the Keltner List he does pretty well, having been the best third baseman of his era; a key cog on several playoff teams; a player able to play well after his prime, as we know all too well; and, after Chipper Jones is inducted and Rolen tacks on a few more years with the Reds, arguably the best player at his position to not be inducted in the Hall of Fame.
And at third base, that's a long list.
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I was happy to see Chris Duncan latch on with the Nationals—really, with anybody, although few teams have more at-bats to fill in the outfield and fewer players to fill them with. When he was cut from Pawtucket in August I thought he might really be done—and he might really be done. But he's got one more shot.
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Sooooo....
….let’s make a trade. Rolen for Freese. Straight up.
Also, please heed my signature.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Is your memory that short, young man?
Though I have to admit, I am fraught with ambivalence about Hass Avacados.
His BAC (blood-avocado content) was .85.
Which, if you know anything about avocados, you’ll recognize is off the charts.
I just don’t know if Freese has the maturity to handle a starting position in the Majors, given his weakness for P. americana.
by arch support on Jan 26, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
to be fair, though
he has developed an amazing tolerance, so the .85 isn’t the same with him as it is for you or me.
by WyoCardsFan on Jan 26, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
don't you mean .085?
I’m pretty sure a BAC of .85 would kill a horse.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
I imagine any amount of avocado in the bloodstream would be pretty dangerous
by BTown Birds fan on Jan 26, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Avocado's contain Beta-sitosterol
Beta-sitosterol is a natural plant sterol which may help maintain healthy cholesterol levels.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 26, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
But, does it help you hit dingers?
Albertofstan.
F* Yeah!
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jan 26, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
yes, so long as you don't use it in lieu of pine tar
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
But chunks of actual avocado would probably get stuck in your vessels and make you die
Best to eat the stuff rather than inject it straight into the bloodstream.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Does that mean Mo's
on a mission for gawd?
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
well, he is showing signs of being badass
Freese said he had a long discussion with general manager John Mozeliak not long after the arrest. He has entered a treatment program, although he said he was not an alcoholic, and said he had lost 16 pounds during offseason conditioning.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 26, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
based on sentence construction
I can only infer that Freese discovered that he in fact has an eating disorder.
by brackenthebox on Jan 26, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
...avocados?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
since that would be functionally trading Edmonds for Rolen
there’s a part of me that finds that hilarious enough to support.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
are we bringing back Tatis?
because the Cubs are considering Chan Ho Park.
(full disclosure – the Rays are the Other Team)
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Can we get Vina and his perfect goatee back on the team?
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
I knew quite a few girls that told me they slept with him
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 26, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
I would...
…wait what?
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
he was named in the Mitchell thing
wish it weren’t so, but there was some kinda statement issued through espn.
I’ve forgotten the details, though.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
it was a viagra/steroid cocktail
mixed with bourbon.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I don't care what kinda roids he did...
….PED’s didn’t help him trim that goatee to a 1-hair-width line.
I still think he got electolysis done on that.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
that's east coast technology
hopefully with all the hair-clipper shenanigans, the team won’t adopt the tech
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
wiki digging
Rolen with the Jays:
After coming off another stint in the DL in late August, this time for his shoulder, he modified his batting stance by lowering his shoulders and arms by six inches, enabling him to reestablish his offensive power for the season’s final month and hitting a couple of home runs at the comfort of less strain on the shoulder, in which he had 3 prior surgeries to correct. He finished the year with a .262 batting average, 11 home runs and 50 RBI.
Interesting.
In 2009, Choi broke out offensively and became a star, rebounding from the slump. He helped the Tigers into title contention immediately, batting .308, blasting a pro career-best 33 home runs, leading the KBO league in runs with 98 and helping them win the 2009 KBO regular season. Choi was runner-up in home runs, RBI (100) and walks (103), 4th in slugging percentage (.589), 6th in on-base percentage (.435), and 11th in batting average. Choi and Kim Sang-Hyun hit 69 home runs, and the two together are called the “CK Cannon”.
In December 11, 2009, He [sic?] obtained his first Golden Glove Award in first baseman nomination.
…
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
where is my korean blogger friend?
i thought you were going to take care of this choi character?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I miss him too.
I liked his panda avatar. And we bonded over Choo.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
gesundheit
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
by STLRegalia on Jan 26, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As the Cardinal World Turns...
you KNOW cow its gonna play out: come August, Freese will be injured/ineffective, we will have no udder viable internal replacements (or ones that TLR trusts); the Jays will be 20 games behind the Yanks and Sawks – if Rolen is healthy we make the trade, he and TLR bury the hatchet and Scotty helps the team to a WS title. All doubts about any future relationship between Rolen and TLR will be erased when TLR plants a big sloppy wet kiss on Rolen’s surprised face on national tv as they stand in a shower of champagne before the network tv cameras in front of the newly-won WS trophy.
Cownt on it!
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
Ermmmm
Scott Rolen kinda doesn’t play for the BlueJays anymore.
We’ll be facing him a dozen times this year when we play the Reds…
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 26, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
what did he rework his salary to be?
if we can’t get edmonds back, maybe rolen?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
I think it's a non-starter
he won’t play for this team again as long as TLR is in charge. Also, we’ve got a decent 3B prospect and Rolen’s hardly a bargain anymore. He makes $6m in 2010, and 6.5m in 2011 and 2012 (by which time he may well be a walking corpse, I guess) and he gets a further $5m bonus spread across those three years, so call it a further 3 yr, $24m deal. It’s not much less than Chone Figgins signed on for as a free agent, and I’ve got to imagine Figgins is probably a better player than Rolen at this point.
I’d imagine Rolen will probably only be a one-win per season upgrade over Freese/Craig/whoever at 3B over the course of that contract. I liked him when he was here but really, his time has passed, I think.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 26, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Why?
I know we love ex players, but we MUST develop young talent if we want to succeed. Rolen has hit 22 HR the last 2 years combined. I know he has good OBP and great defense, but we gotta develop talent somewhere.
I refuse to give in to your logic
I have a Rolen on the River poster and I want to hang it back up. MV3 = Pujols (1) + Edmonds (.5) + Rolen (.5) + Holliday (1)
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
i was told there would be no math
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 26, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
more like mv4
pujols, holliday, wainer, carp
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 26, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
add that rasputin kid this year
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
no
that’s MV2 + CY2 = WS
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
einstein's theory?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
P=MH^2
"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"
"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."
if that says what i think it says
i like it.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Pujols = Matt Holliday squared?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
that's what i read
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I read it as
Pujols=Moar Homers squared
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 26, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Scott Rolen as 2nd tier talent
Man that’s hard to get your mind around. I don’t hate guys becasue of things that happen in the course of the game, but MAN I find Choi at least really annoying.
Choi *and* Cintron.
It is my belief that Alex Cintron cost us a National League Pennant and possibly a World Series back in ’02.
As the stocky kid out of Jasper, Ind., with Busch Stadium ticket stubs for childhood keepsakes, it was natural for Scott Rolen to plunge right into Cardinal Nation after he was freed from purgatory in Philadelphia in a July trade.
He needed the Cardinals, and they needed him. He was desperate for a team committed to winning, and they craved a lift after Darryl Kile’s death.
All the details for a feel-good tale were in place, until Arizona’s Alex Cintron crashed into Rolen’s left shoulder during Game 2 of the National League division series on Thursday. The Cardinals finished off the Diamondbacks without Rolen in a 2-1 victory, but found out today that Rolen, their All-Star third baseman, will miss the remainder of the series after tests revealed a moderate shoulder sprain.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Hissssssssssss
I cannot see or hear his name without hissing, even 7 years after it happened.
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
by Solanus on Jan 26, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He's next on the Stinker List..
….right after Don Denkinger and Jason Marquis!
:=8P
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
After that happened
I remember my Grandfather being angry about it and saying “you have to wonder if it was intentional” And I think I’ve seen him angry about 3 times in my life. Ah the happy memories that brings back… Is it okay to start drinking or do I have to wait until noon before I look like an alcoholic?
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
aw, c'mon you guys
don’t forget that VEB always has advice for every situation
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 26, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Is that the game after the B.I.E.S.S.?
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
that was a cool story from peach, wtf was i? i can't believe i missed that
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
that was awesome
I still wanna meet that guy
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
It seemed like
the Cards were unstoppable until that stupid baserunning mistake by Cintron and he plows into the third baseman (Rolen), after that it was “what might have been” with Scott and the crash with Choi just pounded that nail deeper in the coffin.
If Rolen doesn’t get hurt in that series and doesn’t have the run in with Choi, I think Scott is still a Redbird today and the team is the best of the ‘oughts (2000’s)
"How can a Mexican lose the ball in the sun" ? Harry Caray
by bigchieftootiemontana on Jan 26, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
What might have been...always reminds me of the tarp incident
with Vince “There’s a what behind me?” Coleman.
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 26, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
In other MV3 news,
Rob Rains writes for the G-D (how awesome is it that we now have two St. Louis newspapers—even if one exists only on the internets—with names made up of what were once four independent St. Louis newspapers?):
Globe-Democrat.com learned Monday that the field of potential suitors for Edmonds has been narrowed to two and that the Cardinals are not one of those teams.
The identity of the two teams was not immediately known, but they obviously are teams willing to pay Edmonds more than the minimum salary which the Cardinals likely would have offered. He also would likely have been invited to camp as a non-roster player for the Cardinals and would have had to make the club after sitting out all of the 2009 season.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Whatever it is, it's nice having two local online news sources.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
Seattle's major daily paper went to online only.
This paper folded previously, but could be successful online. I don’t see what the big deal is.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
I couldn't tell.
One comment seemed unfunny, one funny.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
The "Killebrew as lesser light" comment isn't playing well....
…over at BTF.
They ask if the author has ever heard of baseball-reference.com.
Considering that Killebrew piled up 14 consecutive 130+ OPS+ seasons——while Tony Perez, mentioned in the same sentence, had four total, and Scott Rolen has three—-it’s a legitimate criticism.
Killebrew is a no-doubter Hall of Famer, Perez is borderline at best, helped by his “Big Red Machine” pedigree.
Killebrew
finished in the top 5 in the AL in OPS+ 10 times in 12 years
Speaking of whom
Does anybody else look at Pablo Sandoval — or Brett Wallace — and see another Killer waiting to happen? I mean, guys who are 5’11", 225# (b-r lowballs his weight compared to my old baseball cards…) don’t exactly have classic baseball bodies.
by StanTheManFan on Jan 26, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Unlike Mantle or Musial, the jeans models...
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Who?
Mantle and Musial? Tell me this doesn’t look like a jeans model to you:
Or this?
As an aside, thank you for your help on the Willie McGee photo search. I’m very picky. I love the dramatic night photos from playoff games the most. That autographed one, taken in Milwaukee, would be perfect. (Why it isn’t on the MLB.com store is beyond me, as it is an officially licensed MLB photo.) But, I don’t buy auotgraphs on ebay as a general rule. Actually, I don’t buy autographs. I have Stan Musial’s, and I got that one myself. Sadly, that’s about it. (I had a Vince Coleman, but I can’t find it at my mom’s house.)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
It's not in the MLB store
b/c someone already bought it. It’s being resold, I’m guessing. Shame that autograph ruined, for you, what would be a perfect shot.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
My preferences:
Photos and baseball cards without autographs; baseballs with autographs (and preferably in blue pen). The baseball thing may or may not be due to “The Sandlot.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
No
Killer slugged 573 homers, won an MVP in 1969, played in 13 all-star games,played almost
800 games at third, over 900 in the outfield, 900 plus at first and a little at 2b. Only 158 at DH.
He was never a borderline HOF, he was a no doubt HOF .
Wallace isn’t going to hit homeruns and he won’t spend any time at third in the majors. He will be lucky to spend much time at first.
"How can a Mexican lose the ball in the sun" ? Harry Caray
by bigchieftootiemontana on Jan 26, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Killer Brew...
…is a legit HOF, no doubt about it.
As fer Wallace, let’s see what happens first. I still think he’s gonna grow into a high average/gap power kind of guy, 40 doubles and 18-24 hr a year, but he may develop moore power after a couple of years. I see him at first base, though, if he’s gonna stick in the bigs.
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
I really meant more in terms of body type
but I wouldn’t give up on Walrus so easily. It’ll be fun to watch how he develops.
Killer was absolutely a HoFer, but oh, that body. My father, no small slip of a man himself, met Killer not long post-retirement, and came away from it muttering about what a large slab of beef the man was. Yet he was only 5’11".
by StanTheManFan on Jan 26, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Killebrew's pretty much a no-doubter I'd have said.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 26, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Help me out here.....
what is (or better yet a link to) BTF.
Thanks.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Link
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/newsstand/
Links to random stories every day; best part are the comments. A lot of knowledgeable, interesting and funny commenters.
what's that stink
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 26, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
sorry, i told matty to clean that up. but he never listens to me
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I told him too!
it’s really time mattybobo steps it up
or was that mattyp?
I know I am missing about 12 more mattys, so it might have been one of them
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Psh you can't blame this on me
I gots my own problems
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
he really is a slob
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I like BTF a lot
and I think I liked to baseball-reference in this post, but Killebrew and Adam Dunn seem like they have a lot in common. Dunn might hit 550 homers too.
Dan you obviously know nothing about baseball
You think Scott Rolen was a corner outfielder.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 26, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
of course he was
but tony decided anyone can play third.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
the meme's out of hand, tony! out of hand!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Posting pictures
I am trying to post a lengthy (nearly 11,00 words) treatise on players from 1910-34 (25 players : 25 years). I am needing to figure out how I can add pictures such that the text will appear to the side of the picture and wrap properly until it gets to the bottom of the image, then use the entire width of the page.
Picture text text text
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If it’s not possible in this format to do it that way, I’ll post it “sloppy” and just deal with it.
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
I've tried to do this, as well, but didn't have initial luck, became frustrated, and gave up.
Let me know if you have any success. I think you may have to go:
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"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Probably what you've been able to do? (I just wanted to play)
Text-Text-Text-Text-Text-Text-Text-Text
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Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
like this?
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by brackenthebox on Jan 26, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
if so
<img src="yourfile.jpg" style="padding: 5px; float: left;">
the “float:left” is the key thing (float:right to put it on the right side of the page). The padding option is just so the text doesn’t come uncomfortably close to the image.
In general, I recommend using something like google docs to make a long entry, then just copy the html.
by brackenthebox on Jan 26, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks a bunch
I’m using the standard FanPost function and I’m working my way through it so far, cleaning up all of the superfluous bullshit in the code. I’ll probably be at this much of the day (mostly due to the size of the text and all the refinements I’m looking for).
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
Quick Test
1911 – 1B – Ed Konetchy (BR/TR, 6’2½”, 195; played w/STL 1907-13) Variously called the Candy Kid and the Big Bohemian, “Koney” was a right-handed hitter who almost always batted cleanup, stood straight up at the plate, choked up on his bat, and sent liners to the outfield fences. He was one of very few players to hit a ball out of old Robinson Field in St. Louis.
Konetchy began his career in 1907 with the Cardinals, winning praise for his glovework from managers around the circuit. In 1909, he led the team in every offensive category and finished in Top 5 in NL in Hits, Runs, TB, 3B, and RBI, plus led in first base Putouts and Assists.
In 1911, with the Cards only three games out of first place in early July, the team was involved in a train crash on its way from Philadelphia to Boston. 47 passengers were injured, while twelve died. None of the Cardinals were seriously injured, due to a pre-trip change in the location of their car to the rear of the train. Konetchy and Cards manager Roger Bresnahan led the rescue effort, carrying many passengers to safety, some of whom may have died. The Cardinals never recovered from the incident, finishing a distant fifth despite posting their first winning season since 1901, but Konetchy led the NL with 38 doubles & 158 games played, and his own team with six HR and 88 RBI. Big Ed finished 22nd in MVP voting in 1911, 12th in 1912. Konetchy also managed to win a game in 1913, pitching 4⅔ innings of 1-hit relief.
After the 1913 season, manager Miller Huggins sent Konetchy in an eight-player trade to Pittsburgh. He played for the Pirates, Pittsburgh Stogies (FL, 1915), Boston Braves, Brooklyn Robins, and Philadelphia Phillies. He also played for 6 years in the minors afterwards, winning the 1925 Texas League MVP at 40 years old with a .345, 41 HR, 166 RBI campaign. He later worked as a scout for the Cardinals.
Konetchy was statistically similar to Wally Pipp and Hal Chase, physically similar to Keith Hernandez or Kent Hrbek. Bill James named him the 1910’s All-Star 1B-man and GG winner, and considers him (along w/ Sherry Magee and Larry Doyle) as the best player from the Teens not in the Hall of Fame. He rates Konetchy as the 48th best first baseman of all time.
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
Less filling?
Wait I did that wrong…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
so the main thing i took from this
is that you’re saying Edmonds is more deserving of the Hall then Rolen?
I’d say thats an easy call. Hope he signs on with someone and reachs the 400hr mark. Centerfielder with his defensive abilities with those types of numbers don’t come around often.
Milt Thompson FTW!
Jed falls down on counting stats.
Not enough HRs, and no hitter with as few hits as Jed has been elected recently. I’d still vote for him, final 2010 season or not.
by StanTheManFan on Jan 26, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
i would like very much to never encounter the words "Edmonds" and "falls down"
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
willie mays falls down with the mets
how’s that?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I wonder if 3rd base's kinda weird requirements hurt guys who play there...
To play third, you have to be a strong fielder. It’s hard to really hide guys over there because so many balls are hit there. However, third basemen can’t be too good at fielding, b/c then they wouldn’t play third, they’d play shortstop.
To play third, you also have to be a respectable bat. However, third basemen are also required to dive around a fair amount over there because there are so many smashes they’ll only grab/knock down if they lay out. I would imagine this wear-and-tear isn’t good for the body long-term, so their offense probably suffers.
So, we have guys who are good fielders, but rarely transcendent, at a position that beats you up and helps compromise your offense a little bit. Good hot-cornerists could conceivably have good peaks, but simply not pile up enough around that peak to get much attention. Hmm… This may require further investigation.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 26, 2010 11:12 AM EST reply actions
this is twisty yet intriiiguing.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 26, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
I think you also must have better reflexes playing 3rd
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 26, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
barehanding a good bunt
and throwing out a speedy runner is the most difficult play in baseball, imo, and only third basemen need make that play, and rolen was pretty damn good at it.
also, what jumped out at me in his 5-year stats above was that 8 triples, and then also a 6.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I disagree
Trying to track down a deep fly ball without slowing down as you approach the wall is the hardest play in baseball, IMO. The guys who sprint full-speed into walls, even padded ones, to catch a baseball have balls of steel. I never could bring myself to crash blindly into something like that.
The barehander on a bunt is a hard one too, obviously.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
What about being the catcher on a play at the plate?
That is a tough freaking play.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
ryan theriot doesn't think so... it keeps happening to him
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=5539049
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
because it's so freaking awesome?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
that was a huge link fail
well, here’s one…
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=6132411
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
And sometimes you have people trying to take your head off.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
i disagree on difficulty
i’ll give you bravery, but not difficulty. the throw itself is a feat.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Generally, shortstops also need to make that play
on occasion.
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 26, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
similar
but i don’t think it’s exactly the same. for one, the batter doesn’t get out of the box nearly as well. and they are not always very swift afoot.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Shorstops playing Third base
this is why I think Rolen should be a HOF’er. This is what I think of when I think of Rolen at third base. The guy just had awesome range. More than anyone I have ever watched. I might be biased, but I think Rolen is the best fielding Third Baseman of all time, and I think that good enough reason to get in the HOF. If Robinson and Ozzie can get in based on their gloves, I think Scotty should too.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 26, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rolen has been excellent.
But I think best fielding of all time might be a stretch. If you watch some Beltre highlight reels, I don’t even know if you could conclusively say Rolen was the best fielding 3B in his generation, much less all time.
by arch support on Jan 26, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
the numbers show them as pretty even
since 2004, and given their four year age disparity I’d be inclined to give the tie to Rolen, if we’re talking about the balance of their careers. Eric Chavez was also a great defender, in his prime, though out of his prime he’s made Scott Rolen look like Cal Ripken.
chavez was the shoulder too, wasn't it?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
both, wasn't it?
I remember, after the 2004 season, worrying that Chavez and Beltre were going to steal Rolen’s Hall of Fame thunder. Then they both declined ever faster than he did.
sorry for the ignorance, but has beltre signed?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Maybe it's just that Beltre makes it look so easy.
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=6072271
And he does that on a weekly basis.
by arch support on Jan 26, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
Ode to Scott Rolen
There once was a player named Scott
The MV3 we haven’t forgot
He played with precision
Until the fateful collision[s]
With Cincy, he’ll get one more shot.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Jan 26, 2010 11:27 AM EST reply actions 13 recs
aannnndddd green
i’m not feeling rhymey today so i won’t try to piggie back on your dealio
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
why thank you
i think i used up all my skillz on that one
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Finally.
That took way too long.
Don’t say it guys. The robot might eliminate you.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
but,,,,,but,,,,,,but,,,,,,but,,,,,,,
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Jo-El shall speak!
it’s on the Burwell show. Burwell’s not there, so it’s safe.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
they're currently debating whether JEd's on-stage thing was spontaneous
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 26, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
they're saying it's because of the restaurant
so tool-alert.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 26, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
despite not knowing that JEd did say he'd take a backseat to Colby
they’re saying he might’ve seen some better ways to Sell It.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 26, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
only in baseball
can “You were a horse” be a compliment.
oh oh oh, a note of hurt bewilderment in Joel’s voice in the middle of the diplomacy
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 26, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
he was looking for some security, man!
Joel says he’s taking his show on the road! Pixie dust ftw.
“That team reminded me a lot of that St. Louis team.”
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 26, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
"after the first five days of the season, everyone becomes number one"
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 26, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
they're still all good friends, btw.
shut up Joel, we know you miss the Man Stew.
OH DOG HAHA. Joel did win the fantasy football thing, he’s very proud.
“I’m the first Puerto Rican to win fantasy football!”
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 26, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
I though Oquendo said he couldn't even play in the FFL league
by brackenthebox on Jan 26, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
he proved them all wrong! all of 'em!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 26, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
actually, if money is involved, it's dicey
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
it's their annual fantasy league
about half the team plays, so I’m guessing it’s for the glory.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
only in baseball
can "You were a horse" be a compliment.
I can only imagine it would be a reassuring answer to the question “darling, how did I look in bed last night?”
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 26, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
oh... man.
that is rather inappropriate in certain corners of the internet. or a completely appropriate given an inappropriate situation.
just don’t… don’t google his wife a horse. just don’t. really.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 26, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Best google search EVAR!
from wiki:
Now, despite the fact that darkhorseman was clearly an asshat,
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
it's like telling kids not to stick their finger in the electric socket
apparently he was neocon. /politics
- has a slightly different connotation in different parts of the internet.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 26, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
why can't I remember the space??
*nospace, geez, Y2.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 26, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
In answer to yesterday's Bob Gibson question
that was Gibby vs Horton in Game 1 of the WS.
You guys are going to make me cry. It’s like an entire generation of Cardinals fans haven’t been educated on before 1989. :(
The Tigers road jerseys had their numbers on their sleeves (hence the ‘patch’ comments).
Willie Horton had a batting stance very similiar to Albert’s.
by Hardcore Legend on Jan 26, 2010 12:13 PM EST reply actions
who?
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Jan 26, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
some of these guys were born in 1989
I for one enjoy these stories a whole lot, but really, if y’all aren’t going to tell them, you can’t complain if no one knows them.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 26, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
hell some were born after 89
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I was thrown off by the angled outfield wall, fwiw.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
wait, I thought the batter is question was a f'in lefty
and it was Mantle. Did I miss a whole f’in subthread or something?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
CodyG posted a gif of Gibby throwing a hammer to an unknown player.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
Pretty good
…..and equal to the chances that he ends the season with an injury
by NorseKaiser on Jan 26, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
hah
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 26, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Samuel and Lynn...
for Sheets!
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
Looks like the A's did sign Ben Sheets for $8M
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 26, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Love this kind of a deal...
The A’s in 2010 will:
1) Be competitive with an effective Sheets thus getting a good ROI AND get a supplemental pick when he leaves
2) Be uncompetitive with an effective Sheets and acquire a DeRosa-type package of prospects (or more)
3) Be uncompetitive with an ineffective Sheets and lose $8 million
Seems to me the pros clearly outweigh the cons.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
Now it's $10 million plus performance bonuses...
loving this a little less.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
HFS
®
did billy the kid get taken?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
that is insane
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 27, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
The chances of Sheets
garnering a supplemental pick are pretty low, i’d say. He did miss the whole last season, after all.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jan 26, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't Glaus qualify as a Type B?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Yes, Glaus was a Type B
No way Ben Sheets even becomes a Type B. He didn’t even play baseball last year and was not even signed to a team. If he was just on the DL it would be one thing but not even on a team means he severely dropped.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 26, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
really?
didn’t know that distinction was a factor.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
You don't lose your spot in the rankings while on the DL
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 26, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
yes you do!
you keep saying this, but again, glaus was a type b at the end of 2009. he started as a type a. and a pretty healthy type a
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 27, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
he’s pretty average, though. I’m pretty glad we were never in on him.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 26, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
$5m OK for you?
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 27, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
One dollar Bob
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 27, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
you got it
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Good pickup...
Fuku could use a platoon partner.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
Pending a physical
Which, for Nady, could be an obstacle.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
yawn, enjoy playing for a 3rd place or worse team xman
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
i think
the cubs are and 85 or so win team. i wouldn’t be surprised to see them compete for the wild card
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
i don't see it, i just don't see it
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
i think they could win the division next year
I really don’t think there’s more than 3-4 wins separating us, them and Milwaukee, and those sort of advantages can disappear in a hurry with bad luck/bad health.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 27, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
I Want Smoltz and Wang!
and I’m aware that didn’t come out right, but u all know what I mean…
:=8P
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
you must really like smoltz, cow
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 26, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Well, he is...
…kind of dreamy, in a totally non-homo-erotic way – not that there’s anything wrong with that…
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
Just realized something
The Cardinals are entering 2010 on a 9-game losing streak (including playoffs). Poor timing for the patented TLR late-season slide!
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
Similar poor timing in '04
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Oh shit
One place I looked had the Cards’ losing streak at 6, which I assumed was only regular season. I guess they included postseason in that one.
Still, we’re on a 6-game losing streak.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 26, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
am i the only one that hates seeing the old standing on the front page?
even though it shows us in the division lead, it does show a losing streak. and i hate that
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
really?
i don’t remember going 0-6 the last six games of the season
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
look at the front page, it's been there since october
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
good stuff again dan
but i can’t believe you wrote this
Rolen’s already a fair comparison to Ron Santo
HFS® dude, that’s like really insulting to Scotty Ro. the only reason people think santo should be in the hall is because of what team he played for. i guarantee you if he played for seattle, the fathers, texas or kc, no one would ever bring up the fact he should be in the hall
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
i think he's saying
that rolen will outdistance santo with even a couple mediocre years in the natti, though.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
...or...
It could be that Ron Santo has a career OPS+ of 125 and Rolen has 124. I never saw Santo play, so I don’t know much about his defense. Sometimes your anit-Cubs bias clouds your theories/arguments a little too much.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 26, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
bah!
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
or
the fact that he cries about it so much….Awe Pat…
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Santo was actually pretty good
I dunno about HoF, but his stats speak for themselves. 9 years of 120+ OPS (120 is the cutoff you guys usually use, right?)
Ron Santo = Hall of Very Good
I liked him, but he’s a classic Very Good player, who has hung on in Chicago. Grudgingly, I admit that Santo was a tad better offensively than Ken Boyer (whom I recall fondly).
Had Santo played in New York, he would be recalled as an epic hero; but I agree that if he had played for the Padres, no one outside San Diego would remember him.
hey, look what MLB decided to add to their video archives
I hate their video archives very much.
but who doesn’t love this…
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=3232246
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I should search to find Wainwright striking out Beltran
Oh wait. MLB’s search algorithm would yield 236 games from the 2007 Royals season.
at least microsoft stopped their sponsorship, so we get the clips immediately
if we can find them.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Awesome...
right over the “AIG: The strength to be there” sign.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
past Endy
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Endy robbed the homer right on that sign
Which, even though we were on the wrong side of it, made for a totally epic picture.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
so freaking awesome
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
how to sell it?
A little something for our outfielders, perhaps.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
List of outfielders
whose brains were not studied: Jim Edmonds.
Pretty nifty.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
They do not, however, have any explanation for some of the paths that Manny Ramirez(notes) takes to fly balls in left field.
nice
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
ufo's involved, surely.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'm readin' birdbats, a collector's blog
it’s remarkably stalkery.
“July 17, 2009. I’m fairly certain the flame-finished LS ash bat Carpenter is swinging is a Jason LaRue model…”
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Colby changed bats a *lot*
July 1, 2009. Rasmus was swinging a Gwynn-finished Sam Bat tonight. It was the first time he has used Sam this season, and it was the bat he used to hit the walk-off home run. Colby now has swung five different brands of bats (LS, X-Bat, CTG, Marucci and Sam), and we’re not even halfway through the season.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
good to know
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
the site is unsearchable
the guy editorialized that they change bats a lot when they’re struggling. can’t find the dang entry.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
here's one I found...
June 10, 2009. Rasmus didn’t use three different brands like Tyler Greene did on 6/6, but he did use at least three different bats tonight — a natural LS ash, a black LS ash and a Gwynn-finished X-Bat. It’s unusual to see someone on a hot streak like Rasmus switch bats with any frequency. Then there’s Pujols, who hasn’t strayed from his Marucci bat during his recent dry spell. There was a time, not so long ago, when a Albert would be switching bats often in search of a slump buster.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I heard Mark Grace had a different technique
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 26, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
speak of th' devil
April 18, 2009. When Ankiel’s shattered bat barrel flew into the stands late in the game, Fox analyst Mark Grace jumped on his soapbox to rail about the dangers of maple bats. Only one problem — Rick’s natural Rawlings bat was ash with a flame finish from the ring up. Oops…
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Flame finish.
Makes it sound like a souped up El Camino.
by arch support on Jan 26, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
i agree
i think in actuality there’s a flamethrower involved
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
this dude has a serious bat fetish
not that there’s anything wrong with that.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
according to these archives, he was borrowing from everyone, too
case in point: May 2 – Though he’s used Louisville Slugger all season to this point, today Rasmus switched to what I believe is Brendan Ryan’s natural Marucci
a team of bat-swappers, and Colby’s at the fore
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
bat-swappers and Mr. Jason LaRue
I was so close that I could tell that some players were using other players’ bats (including P.J. Walters using Adam Wainwright’s lumber). What I found most interesting was how the players prep their bats. Jason LaRue, for example, applied brown pine tar near the center brand, put rosen over that, then added Mota stick further up the handle — and his bat already had tape on the handle. His bat even had a chip out of the knob, which you don’t expect to see with bats that are still in use.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
whitey wouldn't have put up with this nonsense
colby would’ve been dealt to the mets, pronto.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
not just bat-swappers, but dirty ones at that
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Red and his boys, from last year's ST
http://stltoday.mycapture.com/PHOTOS/STLT/697740/22418031E.jpg
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
great shot.
is that carp – anybody know?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
definitely
Yadi’s eyes are easy to pick out.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
RR's pulling your meme.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
LaRue seems to have been the bat-lender last year
which makes sense given how seldom he played
still… May 22, 2009. After his brief flirtation with a maple X-Bat, LaRue is back to using his typical, nasty, tarred-up LS ash bat
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
oh hey there
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
moar!
This is my favorite entry thus far — http://webpages.charter.net/birdbats/Birdbats/Blogs/20090420.htm
last one, the 26th.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
This is the kind of...
LaDunc reclamation project that sends BCB into paroxysms. Sadly, I doubt Hill will ever learn how to throw it over the plate consistently.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
he might, though
after all, he didn’t come up through our minor-league system, so there’s a fighting chance.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
No risk move worth taking
Had good stuff back in the day at least, what’s the worst that could happen? Who knows, give him a Duncan Sinker® and/or a Matt Morris Lineage Cutter™ and it could work out.
Not afraid to nitpick
how do you make the (r) and (tm) symbols?
I always have to cut and paste from Word, but I was wondering if there’s an easier way.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
try typing them just like that in the text window
preview®™
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
interesting that you can do it in the text but not in the subject line.
and by interesting, i mean retarded.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
...SBN'd!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 26, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
Or they could hand him a bat and an outdield glove,
and dare Willy Taveras to run on him.
"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"
"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."
by hazel on Jan 26, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
that's rec-worthy stuff
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
maybe it's the master plan
he’s not a dunc project at all. tony needs his conversion fix.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
ARe you kidding?
He’s great at throwing it over the plate. Of course, it then gets smacked. So he starts trying to throw outside.
That curveball of his is huge. It’s fun to watch.
No, he is not good at throwing it over the plate
2008: 8.24 BB/9
2009: 6.24 BB/9
2008: 10.8 % O-Swing (swings outside the strike zone, lg avg is about 15%)
2009: 19.8 % O-Swing
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 26, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yes - read my 3rd sentence
Heh. He pitched before 2008.
I think this signing shows the
Cardinals are serious about having a lefty in the rotation.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 26, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
competition for garcia
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Soulsucker?
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
boooo
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Eduardo Sanchez is a NRI
anyone think there is a chance he makes the team?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
I do.
Especially if K-Mac wins a rotation spot.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I don't wanna get my hopes too high
I really think Sanchez could makes this an awesome bullpen.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Sheesh.
This kid will be only 21 this year. Is he still under 6’? I’d like to see him grow a couple more inches.
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 26, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Remember we thought the same thing about Chris Perez and Jason Motte
which doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be optimistic about Sanchez but it’s probably premature to ask that of him next year.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
agreed
I’d still take Chris Perez’s or Jason Motte’s 2009 seasons over what I think most of this years bullpen will give us.
One of these days, one of these young relievers is gonna go all 2005 Todd Worrell on us.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
wasn't jason motte really, really awful last year?
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 28, 2010 4:25 AM EST up reply actions
It will annoy me if KMac wins a rotation spot
given that we have ~$7m left to spend and a bunch of good pitchers have signed for $5m or less.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 27, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Same.
I just don’t have confidence that KMac can get through an order two or three times.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
i'm on board with y'all
and i will be unpleasantly surprised if smoltz is not a cardinal this year.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
no
but i think there’s a good chance he plays for the 2010 cardinals at some point
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
pads have garland
too lazy to go to the HSP…
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
really, really lazy
Rick Ankiel said that the Nationals, Marlins, and Yankees were in it until the end, reports Doug Tucker of The Brownsville Herald.
The Dodgers and infielder Ronnie Belliard have agreed to a one-year deal worth $825K, (plus incentives)
and in case you missed it:
Stark hears that the only offers Matt Holliday had in-hand when the Cardinals signed him were one-year deals worth $18MM or so.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Ha.
I wish Mo had the balls to offer him a one-year deal. Imagine the look on Matt’s face.
by arch support on Jan 26, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
That makes sense
Boras would advise his client to take a 1 year $18m deal over a longer team deal that didn’t have the money/year he wanted.
An article in the P-D stated this was the Cardinals' biggest concern,
that they would lose Holliday to a one-year deal.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
is boras the host?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Between Garland and Sheets
This can’t help our chance of signing Smoltz. Since I thought either one of them was going to the Mets.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 26, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
there's someone on mlbtr with username
“brendan ryan’s mustache”
own up
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
alternate explanation: it's become self-aware
by DanUpBaby on Jan 26, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
that would also explain why it is no longer on his face
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
they always leave...
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Rectastic
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 26, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
you can try saving it directly into html from word, but I'd anticipate that wouldn't work well
One option would be to load the word doc into google docs, then copy the html and past into the fanpost.
by brackenthebox on Jan 26, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
there also seems to be a "paste from word" option
does that not work?
by brackenthebox on Jan 26, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
ah
had to switch to visual view
i knew it was there somewhere
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Are you talking about tables or just words?
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 26, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
I am still dreaming of being able to do scripts in fanposts
So I can make this kick ass sortable tables
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 26, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
that sucks will have to look for another way
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 26, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
if nothing else
i’ll just take screenshots and post them as images
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I stand by the solution I proposed in your post
by brackenthebox on Jan 26, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
I hate mutual options
they f’in confuse me!
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
I can't stop laughing
Newsday is a Long Island newspaper. Some people bought it for $650 million and put it behind a pay wall. Three months later, they’ve got 35 subscribers. Yes, 35.
MLBTR had a lick to Newsday that was subscription based. I never heard of it before and thought it was weird to charge for a newspaper I have not even heard of before.
it's always been paper # 3
in nyc, behind the times and post. at least for the past 20 years.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
the village voice may have been ahead of it for awhile
dunno, but they dropped and then turned into a free paper, and i don’t know if circulation numbers exist for free papers.
at one time the daily news circulation was in the mid-hundreds of thousands
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
this is funny
but also sad, as someone who wants someday to be paid for his writing. Of course, I’m also part of the problem, so there’s that.
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