Sunday ramblings: stats, scouts and sample size
by vivaelpujols on Jan 24, 2010 6:25 AM EST
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Sorry boys and girls, no Brad Penny post again. I feel that he really is an interesting case, and one with which Pitch f/x could be particularly useful; however, analyzing Penny has been a lot harder than I thought it would be. Since I want to do the post justice, I'll wait till I have good pitch classifications and a good idea of what to look for before I present it to you guys.
Instead, today I'd like to spend some time talking about the role of stats, scouts and sample size in evaluating players. I'll start off by saying that the supposed schism between statheads and scouts does not hold true for a lot (dare I say most) serious sabermetricians. Stats are simply the record of the results (or in some cases, like UZR and DIPS models, estimates of those results). If a player has 4 plate appearances in a game and gets out each time, the stats will say he had a bad game.
Scouting, in theory, is supposed to be about the inputs. Take that same player who went 0-4. Say he's facing Chris Carpenter on one of his pulling-a-95-MPH-twoseamer-out-of-his-ass days, and still manages to get solid contact on the ball. However, he lines out twice to Rasmus in deep center, and gets robbed by Boog two more times on hard ground balls in the hole. A good scout should be able to recognize that the batter actually did a pretty good job that day and simply got unlucky.
In small sample sizes, a good scout is ALWAYS better than stats.
However, even good scouts obviously have their flaws. For one, there is often bias in their opinions of players. In Moneyball, Billy Beane once said "we're not selling jeans here", or something to that effect. This was a caution against scouts who favored players who looked good, even if they didn't have good tools. Scouts are also not trained in bio-mechanics, or other necessary subjects to judging players by their mechanics, so they will have natural errors in judgment as well. Furthermore, even if a scout is able to give a perfect assessment of the players ability, it's hard to translate that into an expected stat line going forward.
In the short run, those flaws aren't nearly as glaring as the ones in a players stats. Even over a full season, a player can get unlucky. That may seem foolish, but consider all of the variables that are out of a hitter's control than can drastically affect their stats:
- Umpires
- Opposing pitchers
- Defense
- Ballpark
In fact, even over and entire *career*, there is still some expected luck in a player's statline.
However, while luck always exists in stats, it get's increasingly smaller the more games a hitter plays. At some point, the measurement error of stats (meaning how much luck goes in them) gets smaller than the biases and judgment errors that scouts have.
There is no real way of telling where that point is; however, you can make some reasonable assumptions. The best way to evaluate players is ALWAYS to weigh scouting information and stats in some way or another. To steal Tom Tango's favorite line, Theo Epstein once said that scouting and stats are each one lens of a pair of glasses, and you need both of them to see clearly.
If you combine a team of excellent pure scouts (IE, guys who don't consider the results AT ALL when evaluating players) and a team (or one really) of good statisticians, you will get the best possible evaluations of players out there.
Indeed, some of the most innovative research out their is done by combining stats and scouts. UZR is a perfect example of that. It takes human observation of the quality and placement of batted balls and processes that information into an estimate of how many runs that player saved. Pitch f/x is another example, as, in my opinion, it is essentially digitized scouting. Ideally, you could construct a DIPS estimator using only the inputs that a pitcher provides (velocity, movement, location), and ignore the actual outcomes. Pitch f/x is the closest thing we have to an unbiased scout, who's observations can be broken down into numbers and manipulated like such.
This brings me to another related topic, which is the misuse of stats in the online community. Although there are a lot of ways in which people misinterpret and misuse stats, the most common denominator in those instances is sample size.
Consider the example of the player going 0-4. NEVER, never, never would anyone ever say that statline is A) a decent gauge of how well the player performed, or B) a decent predictor of his ability going forward. However, we do that all of the time with similarly small sample sizes of stats.
An example of that is John Smoltz's pitch count splits last year. From Baseball Reference:
| Pitches | Plate appearances | OPS against |
| 1-25 | 84 | .698 |
| 26-50 | 99 | .818 |
| 51-75 | 96 | .833 |
| 76-100 | 63 | 1.011 |
A clear trend right? The more pitches he threw, the worse he got, that proves he can't be a starter in the bigs anymore, right?
Wrong. Now it's possible that Smoltz legitimately pitched worse as the game went along last year (or at least moreso than the average pitcher). I haven't examined his Pitch f/x data for those splits yet, but it's entirely possible that he lost velocity on his fastball, his slider had less break and he threw more pitches right down the middle. However, you couldn't tell that just by looking at the chart above.
63 plate appearances for the last set of pitches and less than 100 for each of the other ones? Are you kidding me? If Chris Carpenter allowed a 1.000 + OPS against over the first 63 batters faced to start the year next year, nobody would (or should) make a big deal out of it. In fact, we see that last year, Carpenter gave up a .922 OPS against the Giants in 52 plate appearances. Does that mean that Carpenter can't pitch against the Giants? No, it means that he had a couple of bad starts against them.
The attitude, and admittedly strawmen-esque phenomenon I'm referring to above is what's know as false correlation. When you see Smoltz getting progressively worse the more pitchers he throws, that *implies* that he actually pitched worse (and didn't just get unlucky); but it certainly doesn't prove it, and the standard error on that implication is going to be huge.
This happens all of the time with stuff like right-lefty splits, home-road splits, random slumps and hot streaks that players go into, etc.
Anyway, it's 3 AM my time right now and I wanna go to sleep. Hopefully, my arguments (admittedly with no evidence to back them up) were convincing to you and you took away something valuable from them. If not, enjoy your f'ing sunday.
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I am going to enjoy mt f'ing Sunday
and I am also going to say I could not agree more with this entire post. Sabermetrics, scouting, and common sense should go hand in hand? That is what I get out of this all anyway.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
they should all date
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I'd watch that sitcom
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Unfortunately,
NBC will only air two episodes – as a summer series, to boot – before canceling it.
Now with extra feisty!
they should've gone with web episodes
the loyal audience’s made of up late-night bloggers anyway
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I endorse this subthread.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 25, 2010 5:38 AM EST up reply actions
I completely agree.
The Mariners new GM was recently in an interview with Baseball Prospectus and stated a lot of the same things in regards to utilizing both the scouts and the numbers to make their decisions. I recommend reading the interview: http://baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=9967
BP makes a beer and tacos analogy
who wants to give up beer or tacos? Not this guy. Especially Fish Tacos.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Is that a euphemism?
Or do you mean actual fish tacos? I’m with you either way, of course. Fish tacos are awesome.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 24, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
heh.
How is that not recced to the high heavens?
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 25, 2010 5:39 AM EST up reply actions
I saw that comment in the main thread yesterday
and immediately thought about the column a few months back that tried to break down the Holliday deal in terms of his last two months of production in 2009 and how he’ll likely never be that good again…….by using a bunch of stats to back up an already formulated opinion.
It should be the other way around. You go in with a theory and see if you can back it up statistically. If you can’t, you don’t cherry-pick the stats that are the best for your argument, you either state your theory and show how stats refute it, or you come up with a different theory.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Stats/Empirical data
are supposed to combat confirmation bias and many other cognitive biases. A lot of the time the data contradicts conventional wisdom and that’s when the “get off my lawns” get bent out of shape.
We constantly over estimate both the quality and quantity of our knowledge. I don’t trust anybody’s “knowledge” that doesn’t have the strength to flat out say “I don’t know”.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
I don’t trust anybody’s "knowledge" that doesn’t have the strength to flat out say "I don’t know".
Anybody unwilling to say that is a true fool.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 24, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Por ejemplo...
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 24, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Your sig looks suspiciously like a caption.
Now with extra feisty!
by spants on Jan 24, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
it is a glorious mustache, after all
it’s very consistent
by nota bene on Jan 24, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Indeed, it does
And Joe does have a glorious mustache.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 24, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
Great Stuff!
I have been arguing the combination of sabr-stats and ‘anecdotal’ or judgmental evidence for some time now, only not very clearly or cowcisely because, well, I’m a cow and u should all be lucky that I can even type with these gynormous hooves… Anyway, thanks for bringing in some common sense to the argument. So, does anyone kow any good moo-recognition software that would obviate the needs fer me to bother typing?
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
The SABR books I've read
advocate combining scouts and stats.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
I Never Actually Read One of Those....
… but I ate one not too long ago. Lost of good fiber.
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
I think you should be proud
of yourself MooCow. I live with a couple of horses. As much as it would behoove them to ungulate their thoughts in writing they just canter.
by easy on Jan 24, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks
for the interesting analysis. I think it would be useful during, the off seasons, to have more discussions like this about stats, particularly the newer ones, and their usefulness. Rather than trying to create news re: trades, free agents etc. we would all maybe be more enlightened by a once a week discussion of a statistic with analysis not only of it’s overall value but also of specific instances where it may be more or less useful. Also discussions of when to trust the stat or the insider opinion would be interesting.
by easy on Jan 24, 2010 10:04 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Something about this post (and the comment about scouts falling in love with body types)
reminds me of the Chicago White Sox of the 90s (I’m talking about their farm system). They pretty much drafted based on what the player looked like. They had some physical specimens in their system but the guys couldn’t play. They all looked like basketball players. Tall, muscular, impressive. Just couldn’t hit worth a shit.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Jan 24, 2010 10:52 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I bet they sold a lot of jerseys
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 24, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Warren Harding Error.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Jan 24, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
michael jordan?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
anal nitpicking on a f'ing sunday morning
it may be a little early in the day for this kind of discussion, but here goes a few comments from an amateur statistician. very much agree about sample size, and error. using the term stats in baseball always kind of irritates me because i think it subtly misrepresents what these numbers tell us. even in everyday use, the term statistics tends to have a connotation of validity and rigor so that people use the term in lieu of "number’. in statistics if you were interested in predictability, you should/would report the average of some series of outcomes with an error (125+/-12) that represents a predictive measurement that does improve as sample size increases (zero error can’t be obtained, even if the number of events is infinite).
in baseball “stats”,we tend to treat the numbers as the sum of all outcomes, and in some ways they are. however, baseball “stats” aren’t based on random events.
for smoltz, for example, the event that might be repeatable as an experiment (and therefore more closely represents a random variable) is the velocity of the first pitch of the game as one event, second pitch as another, etc.
for a hitter, his BA is not the mean of a series of random events, it is the summary of outcomes of non-random events so it is not really possible to have a plus or minus. it is like the flipping of a coin, an experiment in which outcomes are confined, a random event that does not produce a normally distributed population of outcomes. hence as vep says, you need a large number of events under a specific set of conditions (hitter against pitcher, first at bat, same ball park, same men on or not on base, etc) to have a sample size with a small enough probable error to be a useful predictor (don’t tell tlr!). so many variables involved that propagating the error associated with the variation of each variable (if you could even know such a thing) would likely lead to a an error large enough to make almost all hitters look the same at the 95% confidence interval, which we know they are not.
sabremetrics (ie, the numbers used are metrics rather than statistics in the true sense) seems a better description of the numerical approach to baseball performance. it is a valid attempt to quantify outcomes in a way that allows for some predictability and is extremely challenging.
to me, this is what is most interesting about sabremetrics, ie, that each team has their own approach to which compilation of data is the best predictor (e.g., before they commit $120M to what they hope will be an outcome within their predicted range of outcomes). standard deviation is standard deviation no matter where you go, but sabremetrics are in the eye of the beholder. i’d love to see what the cards use.
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
there are 15 people in my house
i want to go out and have a cigarette
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Great Post.
I like how baseball as a whole is attempting to bridge the gap between stats and scouts to analyze players. I remember that in ’08, I, as someone very unfamiliar with some of the advanced stats and sabremetrics, thought that Floppy was incredibly awesome and should be held on to for as long as possible. He “looked” awesome, but some of you stat guys at least warned of not getting too optimistic about him. Since, I have started to learn and study some of the advanced stuff, and at least understand that there can be more than “how a player looks” and that the more I learn, the less I really know. (that sentence probably made no sense). One thing I am interested in- how do certain teams handle this information? Do all teams have stat heads that use these advanced stats extensively? Some teams more than others?
wow...my perception of Floppy was almost the complete opposite of yours
UZR has Lopez as a pretty passable defender (except maybe at SS), but I remember watching him, and getting the impression he was a complete butcher in the field. That’s why I’ve still been a little hesitant – despite his breakout season by WAR last year – to endorse him this off-season.
fun w/ Lopez' numbers
Looked him up on BR, and I see that in a grand total of 43 games (169 PA), he played all four infield positions and both corner outfield spots, which I find hilarious. (Only 1 inning @ 1st, which came in this game. If anybody’s bored, read thru the boxscore on that one, there is a major surprise in there. Bet the VEB thread for that game would be an interesting read….)
Anyway I think it’s interesting that Floppy’s defensive numbers at short are really hideous, but he looks modestly above average at both third and second, which is a headscratcher for me. I dunno why anybody would play him at short, but we sure could use a switch hitting third baseman…..
is the sample size really 63 PAs
or is it 342? The trend isn’t just the 63 PA’s where he turned people into albert pujols. He was elite the first time around the order, ok the second, and terrible the third, and in the absence of any other information, that is at worst interesting information. When you combine it with the other things we know- he’s 42, coming off of surgery, and showing signs of aging/loss of effectiveness (he’s lost over a mph on his fastball, and almost 2 mph on his slider, since 2008, and almost 4 mph off his fastball since 2004) you just can’t ignore it, no matter how much you wish it wasn’t true.
Sure, there are error bars on each of those “measurements”, but you have what appears to be a clear pattern. Pitchers in general get worse as the game goes on (NL pitchers last year, per time through the order: .718, .759, .810, smoltz for his career: .613, .648, .705) and smoltz exhibited that same pattern, last year, but to an extreme (.701, .829, 1.061).
Luck might be a factor, but when a guy who is aging and coming off a serious injury pitches the way a guy who is aging and coming off an injury should be expected to pitch, Occam’s razor tells me that it was something else. If you find other data that tells you something different, you can weigh the two together and use both sets to inform a decision, and you can give the data you have less weight since it is a SSS, but you can’t just ignore it.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
I don't think he's advocating ignoring the data.
He’s just saying that SSS shouldn’t be used to draw conclusions. It doesn’t mean they aren’t shaping the picture, just that they shouldn’t be the most relevant part.
Now with extra feisty!
The point is you can't tell that by looking at the data
Smoltz could EASILY have pitched terribly in the later innings, and still have given up very few runs. Some of my recent research at THT with Washburn and Burnett suggests that pitchers may have much less control over their stats than we think – well beyond BABIP.
You’re right that you can’t ignore the data, but those little splits have so little weight in projecting future performance that they are pretty much useless.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 24, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
I think he is saying that we cannot simply look at those numbers
and declare Smoltz to no longer capable of starting in MLB. As you point out yourself, we have to provide context to the small sample size of statistics, something that VEP did in his 0-for-4 example (going 0-for-4 vs. Carp with four sharply hit balls is more bad luck than poor skills).
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
To be clear, I'm not saying that Smoltz didn't lose gas in later innings last year
I am saying that you can’t tell that from his stats.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 24, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
so basically you are saying don't make assumptions by reading the numbers,
you gotta watch the games
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
No you have to look at Pitch f/x dummy =)
by vivaelpujols on Jan 24, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
I SAID YOU GOTTA WATCH THE GAMES!!!!
DON’T YOU KNOW WHO I AM????
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 24, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
a way to make such small sets more informative
is to put them in context of what the opposing teams typically did in those innings. then you might have a better barometer. different if he pitched those innings against the yankees or pirates
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
Sure, there are error bars on each of those "measurements", but you have what appears to be a clear pattern. Pitchers in general get worse as the game goes on (NL pitchers last year, per time through the order: .718, .759, .810, smoltz for his career: .613, .648, .705) and smoltz exhibited that same pattern, last year, but to an extreme (.701, .829, 1.061).
The thing is, though, not to nit-pick this example, that “extreme” last year could well just be that he gave up (in, say, 60-odd innings) an extra 2 or 3 HR more than he usually would. If those extra couple of shots were ones that just got over the right-field wall in Fenway and might’ve been caught elsewhere, all of a sudden it’s potentially just a little spike of variability.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 25, 2010 5:45 AM EST up reply actions
nice choice of examples
At some point you should go ahead and do that PFX breakdown of Smoltzinski….I think it’s hard to escape the conclusion that at age 42 he was running out of gas the third time thru the order (the Red Sox did release him, after all) but it’d be fun to see somebody actually demonstrate that with the numbers.
Another case in point would be Pujols vs. Wandy: 5-31, 2 2B, 0 HR, 1 RBI, 6 BB, 1 K, .161/.297/.226/.523
I don’t think anybody believes Wandy’s found some hidden flaw in Albert’s swing….
Right
And I did a Pitch f/x post of Pujols vs. Wandy, and didn’t really find anything special that he was doing.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 24, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
I think it’s hard to escape the conclusion that at age 42 he was running out of gas the third time thru the order (the Red Sox did release him, after all) but it’d be fun to see somebody actually demonstrate that with the numbers.
Maybe it’s not possible with the numbers? That’s where the scouting/empirical observation comes in i guess.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 25, 2010 5:47 AM EST up reply actions
we are recalling that he came off surgery and rushed back to the Red Sox a few months early, right?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
and re: enjoying f'ing Sunday
I will enjoy my f’ing Sunday just fine once my f’ing hangover f’ing clears the f up. F.
I stopped calling them hangovers and started calling them mornings.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Jan 24, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
haha
that gets a rec from me. it’s funny ‘cause it’s true.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
repeating question
I don’t have time for google-fu (effin handegg) … where in the world is Russ Springer?
I have nothing in repayment, other than tidbit that someone offered Brett Favre some reading glasses so he could read the plays off his armband.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
last transax BR has for him
is 8/8/09, claimed off waivers by Tampa Bay from Oakland. Not sure if he has a contract for ’10 or what.
hmm. cool.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
last mlbtraderumor
is from good reporter on 1/6 saying cards may have intrest.
As for the bullpen, Goold speculates on Octavio Dotel and notes that a Russ Springer reunion has been discussed.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
isn't dotel gone already?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
sweet even in handegg they like baseball more
by CodyG on Jan 24, 2010 2:49 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
who dat
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
.
(don’t fail me, VEB)
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
AIN'T NOBODY GONNA BEAT DEM SAINTS
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
jd is Elvis?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
quote of the day
“Maybe I’ll burn my house down,” he joked.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Ladies, Cody apologizes for any spontaneous orgasms this picture causes
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Cody apologizes for that?
he really must be young…
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
oh ok
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
It would be less gingery, no?
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
that really is pretty awesome
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
He's a big Zephyrs fan.
Now with extra feisty!
by spants on Jan 24, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
for awesome knowledge of baseball history.
Make way for the Homo Superior.
by the red baron on Jan 24, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
bring the wood!
predictions, anyone?
Colts 34 Jets 13
Saints 37 Vikes 31
I’m really looking forward to the NO/MIN game, should be a barnburner. Both teams look Super Bowl-worthy. Definitely rooting for the Saints though.
one upset, one ratings hit for ESPN
Jets 20, Colts 17
Saints 41, Vikes 10
anything so long as Brett isn’t in the super bowl, I can’t take two weeks of that
playoffs have blown so far
I’ll dispense with predictions and just declare what I want to happen: Indy to completely destroy, embarrass, basically depants the Jets, then a really good, close, shootout between the Saints and Vikes (with a narrow preference for the Saints coming out on top)
pretty much
I watched the entire Jets-Chargers game and was really underwhelmed with the Jets. The Colts were beating them when Caldwell pulled everybody, so as long as Manning is actually playing I don’t think the Jets have a prayer.
I will say watching the Saints blow the Cards out of the building was fun, even if I felt bad for Warner.
FTW
Nice call, there, matty. I would say a 30-17 win for the Colts, and a 31-28 OT win for the Saints fulfills your wish nicely.
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 24, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
last notes for a bit
i’ve seen way too much of Namath’s chest hair. stupid digital enhancing and cheap fx.
Peyton looks like he’s got constipation. Game hasn’t even started yet!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
that hit was strangely satisfying
even if they lose, moar of that plz
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
can someone explain this to me?
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4853444
the way arod was forgiven is beyond me.
I will explain it.
Fucking bullshit.
How’s that?
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Jan 24, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
i like you, you seem smart
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
i seem to have an ability to put inexplicable phenomena into laymen's terms.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Jan 24, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
sometimes in rhyme
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Sample size
This post makes a lot of sense, but I think it also raises a lot of questions. Most importantly, what is the threshold for significance for these kind of stats? In other words, how many innings/plate appearances would it take before you should consider pitch count splits?
And what do you think about Smoltz’ left/right splits last year? When you consider whether Smoltz can be an effective starter in 2010, I think part of the relevant context is the fact that opponents may be able to exploit a platoon advantage, which Tony can control if Smoltz is a reliever.
The Book looked at lefty-righty splits (and I assume their findings could be applied to other splits as well)
Andy talks about it in The Book. IIRC, he said you need 1000 PA against LHP for a LHH and 2000 PA against LHP for a RHH, to regress 50% toward the league split. Something like that. I’m sure someone can quote Andy directly. Or, you can do a "Look Inside" for free at Amazon.
http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/is_ryan_howard_really_that_bad_versus_lhp/
by vivaelpujols on Jan 24, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
lol jets
wow
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
sanchez is so nice, he low-fived the guy who tackled him
also, I think that was Brad Smith of Mizzou. wiki says he has a business degree.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
This game is so depressing....
Jesus Christ.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
I feel like I'm watching a Clemson game.
Of any sport. Or Indians game.
And I’m watching it on the little game tracker thing.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
It's making me cry.
Defense gets blown out by playground plays….My god
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
you're watching Real Madrid v. Málaga?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Close
Wrong type of football
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
oh handegg
it is kind of hilarious, though
A spokesman for the Indianapolis Colts, the NFL’s other undefeated team, said that quarterback Peyton Manning has been disappointed and discouraged by his team’s perfect performance and was undergoing treatment for depression.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
jets are the sleeper team I think
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 24, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Before the game
I would have said they were a fluke.
Now….We look pathetic.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
they kinda got lucky to get this far
but I would not underrate their defense or their running game
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 24, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
They are everything the Colts don't want to face
Especially when Sanchez decides to be as accurate as a sniper.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
wow
the colts really turned on the offense
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 24, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
read: Peyton Manning threatened to crush someone's skull with his eyes.
self-preservation
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
in fact
that’s what’s going to happen to the video editor who just ran all of baby Peyton’s footage
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i'm enjoying the game more, at least
damn, now Peyton has mentally whammied the Jets D. it’s going to get boring now.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
he's first in the locker room, though
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Jets are much more loose than the Colts it seems
All these trixy plays.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Peyton looks constipated in his game video/picture
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
portrait
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
oh Ronaldo
red carded
now my curiosity has gotten the better of me. what do you think, CG, cute or not cute?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Yes.
And I don’t think warranted a red card. Granted my connection is all choppy and I am biased but still.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Unless it's just any kind of hand to the face.
In that case, I guess.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
didn't smoltz have dramatically different splits last year
from his time with boston to pitching for the Cardinals… he got waaaay better
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 24, 2010 4:27 PM EST reply actions
so not necessarily duncan effect
hmmm
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 24, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
pixie dust
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
he stopped tipping his pitches
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
fuck yeah
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
who the f called me?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 24, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was flipping channels while watching the football game and came across a Subway commercial
all I can think of doing is throwing a laptop across the room.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
It's a long year Lutz. Think of the group.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
by azruavatar on Jan 24, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Q: How do you know it's going to be a girl?
A: I yelled Susan B Anthony at the moment of conception.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
by azruavatar on Jan 24, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I'm the picker. It's my turn to pick.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
by azruavatar on Jan 24, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Go watch 30 Rock.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
by azruavatar on Jan 24, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's Dale Snitterman's fault.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
by azruavatar on Jan 24, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Is that where the word sad comes from?
by Mister Eff on Jan 24, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
jets showing jugular now
we shall see.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Don't want to start a new comment thread, so I'll just add on to this one
How dumb is it that they’re playing the Pro Bowl before the Super Bowl? IMO, it’s a dumber decision than having the MLB ASG winner get home field advantage in the World Series.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
From what I understand the Pro Bowl is a joke.
And I think they may be trying to get more people to watch since it is still during the season. But yes, it is very dumb.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
It is a joke
But this decision is beyond dumb for several reasons:
1. Football is a physical game. The risk of injury is much greater in football than in baseball or basketball. Even in a game that doesn’t mean anything, they still deliver big hits. Imagine if Peyton Manning tears a knee ligament in the Pro Bowl and can’t play the Super Bowl? Roger Gooddell would be fired on the spot.
2. You can’t just go out an play football without practicing. In baseball and basketball (and probably hockey, too) you can just get a bunch of players out there doing their own thing, and it pretty much won’t change anything about the gameplan. If you get a bunch of football players out there without practicing, it will be a jumbled mess. That means that the players who made the Pro Bowl from the two Super Bowl teams will have to take time out of their Super Bowl preparation to play in this joke of a game; either that, or they won’t play in the game which is a slap in the fans’ face.
I don’t think I can come close to explaining how dumb I think that decision was.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
It is.
I can’t think of anyway to express it’s dumbness either.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
They should have a skills competition...
or an awards show. Not that that would be interesting in the slightest, but the an ASG for football is pretty much hopeless.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
sorry to tear your argument up
but the pro bowl is not allowed to have players from the super bowl, it was one of the agreements.
This is in response to both Cody and guayzimi
I wasn’t aware of that. Peyton Manning got voted into the PB, right? That means the fans wanted to see Peyton Manning (for example) in the game, and won’t get to. How fucking stupid.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think...
they liked the ratings for PB the way it was, and they didn’t like the awkward nothingness of the weekend between the SB and conference championships.
As for the Big Hit, I don’t get why leveling a punter in an exhibition is anything to be proud of/get excited about.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
Honestly, the big hit wasn't too much a part of my argument
I just love getting the opportunity to watch it, and other big hits
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I know...
I just think any football exhibition game is problematic no matter how you slice it.
How about flag football, no helmets, each player on the winning team gets $50,000. That’ll get ’em playing hard and no one gets hurt.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
Robert Edwards would disagree with your last point
Edwards was chosen by the New England Patriots in the first round of the 1998 NFL Draft. He rushed for 1,115 yards for the Patriots in the 1998 National Football League season, before blowing out his knee at an NFL rookie flag football game in Hawaii. Edwards barely escaped the injury without having his leg amputated below the knee, and he was told he might not walk again.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
flag football - walking only?
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
Hahaha
I know that Robert Edwards injury was a freak one, it was just too hard to not bring up
Maybe just get like the top 16 vote getters to have an XBox 360 Madden tournament
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds a bit like Dave Busst
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Busst
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 25, 2010 5:57 AM EST up reply actions
Players involved in the SB...
won’t be participating in the PB, will they?
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
How does a hater like you know these things?
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
All right then...
I’ll keep that in mind…
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
who schedules a city-wide arts event during the baseball playoffs?
[Kyle Lohse danup voice] These guys.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Brubeck by day, baseball by night.
that’s just good staff work.
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Jan 24, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
had to transfer this to assets
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Freese ain't fit to shine Matheny's shoes
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
speaking of catchers, Ruiz locked down by the Phillies
three more years of Chooch.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
all this signing into 2013 means the Phillies are completely ignoring
the apocalypse adjustment. unless they plan on looting.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
well it helps playing in that sandbox called a ballpark
look at his home/away splits, I think Yadi could hit 20 dingers if he played half his games there.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=ruizca01&year=&t=b#hmvis
trudat
plus the lazers
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Phillies news is always entertaining
http://www.thefightins.com/meechone/so-long-moonshot-matt-stairs-is-headed-to-san-diego/
Matt Stairs lost 31 lbs, btw.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
holy sshhhh* the wasting-away is catching!
http://www.thefightins.com/meechone/charlie-manuels-before-after-nutrisystem%C2%AE-diet-pictures/
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
should find the Astros post and stick this there
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
someone should make a flowchart
Pirates = Cubs AAA
ex-Cardinals end up on the Brewers
we seem to have acquired a taste for ex-Red Sox
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Man, Childress is a douche...
I wish I had put more on the Saints.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
I really don't know who I want to win
They seem like the exact same team to me. It will be a hell of a game whoever plays the Colts :)
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
hmm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrkbE5uQ8DM
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
dude
Allen Craig got Minor League Player of the Year.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I dunno, I just found out he existed
…seriously, I must’ve missed it sometime. hell, I might’ve reported it, but … the winter kinda sucked.
enjoy your youth.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i weep for him
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
what's everyones' opinons on pete rose
as a player. i mean, he has a whole bunch of hits, but he just played a really long time very consistently. he was never an elite hitter, really
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
WHO DAT
Favre knew it
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Jan 24, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
good stuff vep, good stuff
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Indiana makes me want to strangle someone
How the hell do you lose to IOWA!?!??!
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Isn't Indiana still digging itself out of the rubble left by Kelvin Sampson dropping a nuclear warhead on the program?
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
Yup, they are
but they are so up and down, it’s frustrating. I know the process is hard, and they lost their leading scorer, but we should beat Iowa by now. Iowa is terrible, and it was at home!
/end venting process
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Hehe
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Indiana has plenty of good karma
They deserve after that bombshell Sampson laid on them.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
what the holy fuck is wrong with peterson?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
He's certainly strong enough...
to hold onto the ball. He holds it the right way…. Is it just lucky that they’re getting hits on the ball?
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
Whoever the hell the RB coach is,
needs to actually, you know…coach the guy.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
mindless facts from Buck
he apparently has a crushing handshake
maybe he can’t run and hold at the same time? like walking and chewing gum?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
is anyone else bitter toward Joe Buck?
I feel like he sold out.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
i feel like he's a robot
y’know his youngest sister’s still on the radio… I heard her take a shot at big bro for never being around for Thanksgiving dinners because of his handegg duties.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
... they got rid of him???
i wish
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i'm torn when it comes to buck
part of me is bitter towards him because i want him to be a lot like his dad. which is actually very unfair to the guy because there will only ever be the one & only Jack Buck.
and the other part of me can’t blame him for wanting to step out from his dads shadow & leave the Cardinals & go off & do mlb, nfl & try to be more than just a sports guy.
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I would not be so bitter
if he were any good
at least he’s not Chip Caray-bad
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
he's the best we got on fox, and yes i know that's not saying much
but i do agree that he’s lost a lot since his dad died & he stopped doing the Cards games. he used to be really good, now he’s a shell of his former self.
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I always liked him when he did the Cardinals.
He isn’t the same anymore but I really liked him back then.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I try to explain it to other people who didn't hear him in St. Louis and they don't believe me.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
can you blame them?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
yep, he used to be great
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I still like Joe Buck
I dunno why everybody hates him so much. McCarver I could do without, for example, and I think Aikman does a pretty good job as the color guy.
I don't think he's nearly as bad as everyone says he is but he has lost something over the years.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 24, 2010 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
Hilarious.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 24, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i don't hate him at all, i just wish he was who he once was
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
a good announcer
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
He was who we thought he was?
Apparently, not anymore.
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 25, 2010 2:17 AM EST up reply actions
favre limpin' off
does this end like old yeller?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 24, 2010 8:59 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
That may be the only way to get Brett Favre to retire
Take him behind the Dome and shoot him
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
YES!
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
oh hell, don't show deanna
that’s just crappy
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
That's cruel, I agree.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
He's coming back.
the legend grows… We’ll hear about it for months…
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
That's before the retirement coverage ofcourse
Just looking forward to that…
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
the Sears ads are kind of funny...
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
HI GUYS IN THE TRUCK
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Leave it...
joe to kick this off.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
was weird, though
didn’t he say “can the legend grow any more”?
ripping you, dude
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
OMG HE'S BACK! HE'S BACK! HE'S BACK!
HE CAN HEAL HIMSELF! HE’S NOT HUMAN!
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
no religion
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
that kind of talk is Albertian.
not sure it qualifies
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
YES!
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
HFS
®
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Bout time the Saints picked up one of those
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
That's about four fumbles...
in the last six plays or so.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
i have never seen so many fumbles
this is ridiculous…and not in the albert pujols way.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
the Rams had this thing about the superdome too
I thought at the time it was just the voodoo
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
and favre has to scramble after someone else's fumble
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
that's a TD
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
If they don't overturn
Go for it
(I think it’s a TD too, but NEVER FORGET)
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Hey is there some sort of game going on?
by BuzzKillington on Jan 24, 2010 9:11 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
i like your screen name with this comment
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Whenever they show Farve getting sacked
there are zero Vikings in the entire screen shot. It’s like watching the Rams protect Warner and Bulger.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
So what do people think about the statheads...
idea that teams should go for it on 4th down most of the time, from most places on the field, if the yardage to go is reasonable?
I’ve often thought a quarterback option/punt would be good…
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
This is the conversation that comes up everytime I watch football
with my roommate. We’ve both been complaining about the lack of initiative on 4th and short prior to all the attention it got when bill belichick made the call.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
I was watching V. Williams for a while
but now there’s little else on my TV. I’m still not a fan of football but I continue to watch it for some reason. I think not having to hear about the Rams every motherf**king day from co-workers has allowed me to enjoy the post season a little bit. The unflinching optimism for the Rams was nauseating.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
In my office
every Friday was a list of reasons why the Rams could win. It was unrealistic but I don’t think I ever heard anyone say, “Ya, we’re just screwed this week.”
Think; It's not illegal yet.
you could watch the 101 chowdown countdown in the travel channel
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
that's like me
with the chiefs when i lived in missouri.
central mo is chiefs country just as much as it’s cardinal country
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
If it's any consolation,
I’m waiting for the Verdasco/Davydenko match to start at which point football will be my backup channel.
Sports to be watched in this order for me:
1 – Cardinal Baseball
2 – UFC/WEC events (MMA)
3 – Tennis Grand Slams
4 – Hockey
5 – Football
I really don’t care for golf or basketball at all.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
I'll also watch volleyball if it's on TV
Volleyball is easily my favorite sport to play.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
YAY FOR VOLLEYBALL
YAY FOR IT! We beat the 2nd and 3rd place teams in our league this sunday. Up to 4th. Exciting stuff!
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 25, 2010 6:04 AM EST up reply actions
The pressure to conform...
in football is unbelievably powerful. All reason indicated that the Belichek decision did not severely damage the Pats odds of winning (if it damaged them at all) and yet he was absolutely pilloried. And he’s a top 3 coach all time.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
Belichick's decision was absolutely the right one
The choices were:
100% chance that Peyton Manning gets the ball back (negating fumbled punt returns)
or
~40-50% chance that Peyton Manning gets the ball back
Manning probably would have led them to a touchdown no matter where he started the drive from
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty much
Don’t get the hate on Belichik there, that defense was tired as hell, and he decided that they couldn’t take another drive. I agree with it wholly.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
the only problem I had with the call
was that if you know you’re gonna go for it on 4th down there, you should be running on 3rd and 2.
I like the trend that more teams are going for it on 4th down, but you’ll get the most effect out of it by playing the full series with that strategy in mind.
by brackenthebox on Jan 25, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Well
I understand that idea, but once they grab the first down , the game is over. If I were Belichick, I would much rather put the ball in Brady’s hands than whoever’s turn it happens to be in their patchwork RB core. I’d give him 2 shots instead of putting it in uninspiring RB’s.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
I would go for it on 4th down so much if I were a coach.
It’s just so exciting. This is why ClemsonGirl is not a football coach.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Go for it every time if it's 4th and 1 or less
Probably if it’s 4th and 2
You should have some plays in your playbook that are almost guaranteed to get at least two yards.
I’m definitely anti-conservative football (playing for field position)
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
i'm in the same boat, go for it go for it go for it
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I imagine it's cause the penalty for not making it is so severe
there’s probably some game theory thing about making those type of choices….high risk with minimal upside and huge downside.
I do think NFL coaches should be somewhat more willing to gamble on 4th and very short as long as they’re confident in their offensive line.
Spants, if you're here, I have a random question for you:
Does your husband love baseball (and/or the Cardinals) as much as you do?
Any other married/committed women on this forum, please feel free to respond.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
I believe I've heard her say he's mildly interested, but not die hard
Correct me if I’m wrong, spants. Or stab me.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
intriiiiguing.
really, though, i wonder how she feels about that. i’ve been trying to find someone who loves baseball, and it has eluded me (which is kind of absurd IMO). maybe it’s not a big deal.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
well you've come to the right place
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
It's a big deal to me.
None of my friends are into baseball. Josh and I will always have baseball to talk about. We also play golf and tennis together, and those are sports we can play into old age. It’s good for our marriage to have this shared passion. I’ve had boyfriends who weren’t into baseball like me, but we always had something major in common, like interest in politics or literature or whatever.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light
He loves it, but he only liked it when we got together.
My rabid fandom has definitely infected him. He’s not into the numbers the way I am, but I illuminate him as I learn.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light
that's what's happening to me and my BF
but before we met he really barely knew anything about baseball. this will be our first full season together. i’m hoping he will get into it. i wonder if he doesn’t, if that’s a deal breaker or not.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
It might take more than one season.
And as long as he’s respectful and not hostile to your VEB hobby, it should be all good.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light
with my luck, i'll land a baseball fan
who loves the cubs
speaking of dealbreakers…
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
that doesn't beat the celebration sex you get with the Cardinals female fans
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
well you've come to the right place
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I don't know.
Do we have many vocal lesbians around here?
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light
i have longer hair, like a girl
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
and you have a penis, like a girl
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 25, 2010 6:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
so that's what that thing is
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Please don't let it be
I’m very anti-deal breakers.
Lots of my friends say things like, “I could never date someone who smokes” or “I could never date someone who’s a different religion.” I just don’t understand that because it really narrows the pool of people you could date. People who feel this way are missing out on some wonderful people by excluding whole groups of people.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
aw
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
ginger girls are hot.
anyone who says otherwise is demonstrably wrong.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 25, 2010 6:07 AM EST up reply actions
This is very true
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 25, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Josh smoked when we got together.
He’d been wanting to quit and having a girlfriend who didn’t like kissing him as much as she should was a strong push in the right direction for him.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light
yeah, i'll date any girl who can stand to be alone with me for more than 5 minutes
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
that's enough for twice, right?
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 25, 2010 6:07 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
only if i take a little blue pill
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I couldn't date someone who smokes.
I would have headaches around them all the time. And while last year when some of my friends smoked I got a little bit used to it the smell never stopped bothering me. It’ nothing against them I just wouldn’t be able to handle it. I think if we were going to work out they wouldn’t smoke or at least quit.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
yeah except that
does it really narrow the pool to say I want to date someone who likes baseball? I mean its kind of insane that I have never dated anyone who likes baseball as much as me, considering that at least probably 75% of American men like baseball.*
*apologies to Adam Dunn.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
They'll just replace you in 7 months
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Jan 24, 2010 10:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Is having a wife a deal-breaker?
Sorry, there were definitely things that were deal breakers for me, and smoking was at the top of my list. I never dated anyone who smoked…in fact, I never even came close. Subconsiously, if I was even remotely aware that they smoked, it’s like I didn’t even see them. This probably has a lot to do with me losing my father, a 3-pack a day smoker, when I was 13 and he was only 50. Yeah, it was a heart attack, but I know to a reasonable certainty that the 60 cigs a day didn’t help.
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 25, 2010 2:26 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it was a heart attack, but I know to a reasonable certainty that the 60 cigs a day didn’t help.
I think science would agree with you there. Smoking elevates risk of heart problems by quite a large degree.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 25, 2010 6:09 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think there's anything wrong with having deal breakers.
In big deal things like someone who smokes for example it means you probably aren’t going to work out. Why should you waste your time if you know it’s not going to work? What’s the point in dating them then? I’m not saying you can’t be friends of course but if you know your limits I don’t see that as a bad thing. For me, someone who doesn’t like baseball would not be a deal breaker as long as they didn’t care that I liked baseball.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 25, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
you gotta be kidding me
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
it's contagious!
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Still got grease on their hands from all the fried New Orleans food
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
Why did the bald man paint rabbits on his head?
Because from a distance they looked like hares!
I’ve got more where that came from.
by BuzzKillington on Jan 24, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that's not funny at all
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
How do you get a Cubs fan off your front porch?
Pay him for the pizza
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i've heard the same only insert a michigan grad
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Yeah
I usually hear it as “Alabama grad” or “Arkansas grad” etc.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
funny....but there would have been an easy way to make that inappropriate
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
have you seen the one in the ballpark turf fanshot?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I'm ready for the Vikings "Pants on the Ground" remix
“Ball on the Ground”
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 9:26 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
that almost sounded dirty fella
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I wouldn't mind seeing this game end with a Brett Favre pick six
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
The overs are praying for this...
they’re sweatin it out now.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
Oh, I didn't mention
In overtime
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
I'm calling fumble...
pretty bold, I know.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
good call
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
81 should be...
kicked off the team for holding the ball like that after everything that’s happened…
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
that did not look like celebration
that looked like the favre family in mourning or something
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Go for it.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
If they fail...
it’ll be a quick score and they’ll have another chance.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
is that the fake president stumping for Mass Effect?!!
also, can they name a hero something other than shepard?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
not a bad extended ad
complete with the porn shot
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
you know i'm surprised Fox is letting danny mac work for the WWL
he’s calling the sms v creighton game on the u. he’s done a lot of u games this basketball season
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
For a game with two teams I don't really care about too much, I'm really into this game
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
ha same here.
at this point, i am rooting for overtime. lol
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
NBC.
It’s an exhibition so it’s just fun. For example Johnny Weir just skated to Poker Face which was hilarious.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
My grandma and I used to watch that together when I was a kid.
And gymnastics.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light
I stopped liking it at some point.
I’d rather watch golf.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light
I really like Ice Dancing.
It it just so cool to watch. It seems much prettier to me than plain figure skating.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I really like underwater basket-weaving,
but that’s summer olympics.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light
That would be exciting.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 24, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
You should
look into octopush.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 25, 2010 6:11 AM EST up reply actions
I was totally joking.
But I cannot believe underwater hockey exists!
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
yes.
i always watched gymnastics and figure skating with my mom when I was younger. good memories.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
oh hey, it's the last two minutes
guess it’s time to watch
i heard favre is also peterson’s psychiatrist
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
which in handegg time is ten minutes, right?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
no you're thinking of basketball
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
they get all mixed together
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
What can't the man do?
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
quit
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 24, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Touche
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
recarific
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
OMGFAVRELOL
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 9:52 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
well that was fitting
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
he could've just run
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
it'd be funny if this could end in a tie like the regular season
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
but it's like getting a brand new game without starting another one
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
overtime is the one thing that college football has gotten right
Think; It's not illegal yet.
by azruavatar on Jan 24, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't like college OT either
IMO you should play full 15-minute quarters, and whoever is ahead at the end of the extra “quarter” wins. That way, both teams get a chance at scoring, but they don’t turn it into baseball like college football does.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
pulp fiction
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
shit!
i have seen that movie like 10 times too!
guess i am just drunk.
/face palm + /shaking head in disapproval
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
alcohol, the cause of, and solution to all of the worlds problems
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Here ya go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLtwFugudZE
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
I've never seen that movie.
This explains why I wasn’t catching that quote.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
You should
It’s my favorite
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Must see....stop what you are doing right now and obtain this flick.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
but you said it?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
f'in gdm
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
it's the voodoo
“tails you won the toss”
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
tails comes up more than heads, that's a fact jack
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
What is the longest word in the English language?
“Smiles”. Because there is a mile between its first and last letters!
by BuzzKillington on Jan 24, 2010 10:09 PM EST reply actions
Yay!
More first grade jokes!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 24, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
There are 5 birds in a tree. A hunter shoots 2 of them dead. How many birds are left?
2 birds. The other 3 fly away!
by BuzzKillington on Jan 24, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
That one was a little bit more advanced.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 24, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
But still good.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 24, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Now, here's a fellow attempting to ride a bicycle. But he's having some trouble, isn't he? And do you know why?
by BuzzKillington on Jan 24, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
He's a Scot?
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
/laughs
Now, who here likes a good story about a bridge?
by BuzzKillington on Jan 24, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
if this thread doesn't end in a Guinness ad, I'll be disappointed.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 24, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
it was everwhere else but here
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
....
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
hahaha
it’s funny because that really is what she said, hahaha.
by BuzzKillington on Jan 24, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
almost funny
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 24, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
damn, almost only counts in horseshoes
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
and hand grenades...
You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all.
-- Earl Weaver
by Smokin Turkeys on Jan 24, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta stick with the "h"s
and hydrogen bombs…
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 25, 2010 2:34 AM EST up reply actions
But those only work with a nuke fuse...
so I don’t know if we can totally stay on the h train…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
excellent timing of Sears ad.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
The graphics that tennis has added to the broadcasts
tracking the ball location and where it is struck or where it hits the ground is incredible. It’s so intuitive and informative.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
sometimes I still feel a twinge
for Jimmy Connors, though.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 24, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
that was a crap call
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Sort of.
But it doesn’t upset me.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 24, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
Colts
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
oh i don't care, i dislike both of them equally
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
is it time yet?
oh wait no. heh.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Brett Favre's last pass was an INT
Yeah Saints!
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
they done killed the kicker
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
he's twelve
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 24, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
Aw shit
This marks the beginning of Brett Favre “retirement season”
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
So the tennis coverage just
“welcomed the football fans over” after the conclusion of the NO/MIN game; I was already watching the tennis match. I often think that I’m one of the few people with weird TV tastes (I was flipping between Real World and CNN on Wednesday night). Is there really much of a crossover audience between tennis and football?
Think; It's not illegal yet.
maybe the true crossover
are the aussies and the beer drinkers
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 24, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Drew Brees.....Who dat?...
"A slick way to out-figure a person is to get him figuring you figure he's figuring you're figuring he'll figure you aren't really figuring what you want him to figure you figure." ~ Whitey Herzog
Damn I wish I was on Bourbon Street right now
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
we could always check youtube in about five hours
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 24, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
Umm, yeah....
drunken debauchery at it’s finest. Or, in other words, Heaven
"A slick way to out-figure a person is to get him figuring you figure he's figuring you're figuring he'll figure you aren't really figuring what you want him to figure you figure." ~ Whitey Herzog
by birdsonabat on Jan 24, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
so can someon loan me $50K?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I want to know which one of you guys added this to the Sabremetrics Wiki page?
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 24, 2010 10:28 PM EST reply actions
kind of sloppy
how many times he’s referred to as “carp”
def written by a cards’ fan
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 24, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
of all the things to put under the general topic of
“sabermetrics:controversy”,
the 2009 cy young award would probably be about #35 on the list. That’s embarrassing.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
nice timing on the ribbon shooting
they pros down there
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
You'd think they would be a lil over-zealous lol. But they weren't
"A slick way to out-figure a person is to get him figuring you figure he's figuring you're figuring he'll figure you aren't really figuring what you want him to figure you figure." ~ Whitey Herzog
by birdsonabat on Jan 24, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
it's a little early
I’m waiting for the rest of it
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 24, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
though I wish Terry weren't sick
because this guy is dry as toast
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 24, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
thankfully the who dat chant keeps it lively.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 24, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
No one is going to work, class, whatever tom in the entire state of Louisiana
"A slick way to out-figure a person is to get him figuring you figure he's figuring you're figuring he'll figure you aren't really figuring what you want him to figure you figure." ~ Whitey Herzog
by birdsonabat on Jan 24, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
The whole state got the flu...
Can you believe it?!?
"A slick way to out-figure a person is to get him figuring you figure he's figuring you're figuring he'll figure you aren't really figuring what you want him to figure you figure." ~ Whitey Herzog
Super Bowl
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
now we switch to the Manning storyline? greeeat.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I don't know why...
But Peyton Manning has always irritated me. Ever since Tennessee
"A slick way to out-figure a person is to get him figuring you figure he's figuring you're figuring he'll figure you aren't really figuring what you want him to figure you figure." ~ Whitey Herzog
by birdsonabat on Jan 24, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
if he weren't a football player
he’d be that quiet, pleasant guy who’s affable until he goes on a murder spree
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 24, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
I like his commercials
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
He is hilarious.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 24, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
those are horrible hats!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i'm not into the stitching
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 24, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
This is going to be a pretty awesome Super Bowl for me
My 2nd favorite AFC team vs. my 2nd favorite NFC team
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
Raiders* and Falcons
*I currently actively root for them to lose so that hopefully Al Davis will finally let go. He’s ruining a once proud franchise.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
this is impossible
I like both the Colts and the Saints, I dunno what the hell I’m gonna do. I guess I gotta root for the Saints just because this is their first trip to the Big Dance.
...
A man asked for a meal in a restaurant. The waiter brought the food and put it on the table. After a moment, the man called the waiter and said:
“Waiter! Waiter! There’s a fly in my soup!”
“Please don’t speak so loudly, sir,” said the waiter, “or everyone will want one.”
by BuzzKillington on Jan 24, 2010 10:46 PM EST reply actions
is buzz buzzed?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 24, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
haha quite the contrary sir
here’s a tell I’ve experienced too many times before
At an auction in Manchester a wealthy American announced that he had lost his wallet containing £10,000 and would give a reward of £100 to the person who found it.
From the back of the hall a Scottish voice shouted, “I’ll give £150!”
damn Scots always trying to steal our money, take our jobs, and our women too.
by BuzzKillington on Jan 24, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
Why, you're not Scottish because if you are.
/holds fist up
by BuzzKillington on Jan 24, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oh so why do you want to take my job,money, and women?
why do you hate me?
by BuzzKillington on Jan 24, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
Ted Drew's is coming up on the travel channel
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
"why don't you try to hit it to the fleur de lis?"
I got chills for that one
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
that
was one of the damnedest football games I’ve ever watched. I couldn’t relax for the entire second half. I can’t believe what a great job the Minnesota D did in the 2nd half, it seemed like the Vikings’ O was on the field for damn near the whole 30 minutes, and yet the Vikes just couldn’t hold on to the damn ball. I think it was 5 fumbles, 3 lost, and the two picks….-4 on turnovers….ouch.
Just looked up time of possession—Vikes 36:49, Saints 27:56. Of course the Vikes didn’t have the ball in OT, so the Saints’ time of possession during regulation was more like 23 minutes (yowza). That’s 99 Rams-esque, winning a game when the other team has a huge T.O.P. advantage like that.
As much as I can’t stand the Favre circus any more, gotta give him some respect….the Vikings were moving the ball pretty much at will, despite Favre repeatedly getting his ass handed to him. (Warner would have been sacked 12 times with that kind of pressure. Favre was smart enough to get rid of the damn ball.) I thought he’d blown out his knee on that one high-low hit.
Should be an entertaining Super Bowl.
let's hope so, i hate boring super bowls
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Colts in 3...
wait that doesn’t work…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
We haven't had a boring SB in a few years now
At least, nothing like the early 90s NFC romp fests we always saw
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 24, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
i enjoyed those Dallas romps a lot
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
That's a tricky question.
I’ll say no, but I really mean maybe.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light
hmm...
they’re busy
Hmm
DDJ ’09 pickoffs: 4
Podsednik ’09 pickoffs: 11
by kcbottom9th on Jan 22, 2010 3:27 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
FAIL
by wildthang on Jan 22, 2010 3:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I smell leadership
“Things could always be worse.” – Buddy Bell
by buddyball on Jan 22, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that what that stench is?
Peeewww!
Tension is the enemy. – Charlie Lau
by aHorseWithNoName on Jan 22, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 25, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
they actually talk about baseball over there
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 25, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
Their team has been busy lately.
Ours has not, other than the McGwire kerfuffle.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light
weird
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
smammich
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
like i told you, sammich pick
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
on an unrelated note, i could use some curly fries
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
ditto, i'm so hungry right now
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
did you all know that some shows air in canada the day before they air here?
like for instance, Chuck aired earlier tonight up there & the episode is already online before it even airs later tonight. and that new fox show human target does the same thing
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Some air later, too.
I’ve heard Mad Men airs a day or two later.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
i was looking for big love online a few weeks ago when i found this out
i had no idea they did that. i knew in england & other europian countries aired them after the seasons where over here. but i thought they aired on the same nights up in canada that they aired here
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
casttv.com has it, but tonights isn't up yet
i found tv duck last week & it already has tonight’s episode up
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Thanks!
I missed the last few from last season, so I need to catch up.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
no problem, i'm surprised fastpass doesn't have it, they have every thing else
i hate that casttv’s best links are mega video too. their stupid time limits piss me off to no end
and make sure you do watch last seasons before watching this one. it jumps a head in time a while & you’ll be a little lost if you don’t. i also hate that they only did 9 episodes this year. i don’t care if they are longer episodes this year, they should do at least 15 per.
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
i don't know buzz, isn't there a VEB'er from Vancouver or Toronto?
i assume you could get both USA & Canada tv feeds, but i don’t know
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I wouldn't know I've only been on here for a week.
but how does that work if you have two channel fives?
by BuzzKillington on Jan 25, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
i don't know
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
some air in the uk like that too
i think it explains monk
he knows things
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I also see dead people
that’s compulsive necrophilia for ya!
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 25, 2010 6:18 AM EST up reply actions
how can you date them
when they’re rotten
unless it’s carbon
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
was not aware
You know a list of shows that do that?
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 25, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
from what i can tell there's a bunch, i don't have a list though since i'd have to go from memory
and the only ones i can remember are chuck & human target
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Follow up
In response to my comment above, VEP quoted and linked to a thread on insidethebook.com, discussing Ryan Howard’s platoon splits.
I think it’s worth pointing out that the thread continued beyond the part quoted above, and the following clarification was offered:
Since people are going to quote me, let me quote Andy to make it official, p157:
Recalling the "regression" section of the Toolshed chapter, we find that a right-handed hitter’s platoon split is best estimated with a weighted average in which his platoon split is weighted by the number of lefties he has faced, and the league average is weighted by 2200.
In other words, a righty who has 2200 plate appearances against left-handed pitchers will be regressed exactly halfway toward the league-average. For a lefty, the number is about 1000 (due to the larger variation in platoon skills).
…
For pitchers, the break-even points come sooner (700 for righties and 450 for lefties) and thus are more easily attainable.
from http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/is_ryan_howard_really_that_bad_versus_lhp/
After reading that, it doesn’t directly address the question of sample size, but rather weighting for regression purposes. And I don’t see any indication that the same weights would apply to pitch-count splits as to left-right splits – the quote specifically describes only left/right platoon splits.
In any case, I get the basic point that we should not rely on small samples to draw conclusions. What I’m not getting is how we can recognize when a sample is big enough to consider. If we’re trying to reach a better understanding of how many plate appearances, or innings pitched, are enough to form a meaningful sample, we should have some numbers or formulas to back it up. And of course, as many other commenters have suggested, we should consider all of the relevant context (in the case of Smoltz, his age and injury history, and observation of his actual pitching, not just his stats).
I’m not trying to be a pest about this, just trying to make sure the discussion is thorough. This blog is consistently good enough that I (and I think a lot of readers) have high expectations. I think we can do better than simply saying that certain stats are meaningless due to small sample size, without a contextual explanation of what sample size would be sufficient for a given purpose.
I'm not saying that they are meaningless, simply that they mean very, very little
I’m not sure what the regression for inning by inning splits are, but if they are nearly as much as the lefty righty splits, than 63-100 plate appearances will be regressed almost 100% to the mean.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 26, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
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