Joel Pineiro and Rick Ankiel: An Ex-Cardinal Spectacular
Dear Cardinals bugs,
It is I—the ghost of Christy Mathewson!—once more into the "breach" for your mercurial proprietor, whose "days on" and "days off" have, if I may jape, here, against the terrestrial hand that feeds me, blended lately into quite the erratic melange! He is, you might say, in blue company, a regular "Woodrow Wilson"—he kept himself out some more! Of course I do digress...
It is with sad but self-evident news that I come today: This will be, barring an unforeseen reversal in the fortunes of our mutual friend, Joel Pineiro, the last edition of "Pitching" in the "Pinch" that I transmit to your on-line broadsheet. Thanks in part to old "Big Six"—and with the help, he tells me, of Dave Duncan—Joel has secured a most impressive contract with the "Angels" of California, spanning two years at the cost of $16 million (or, I believe, 774,000 troy ounces gold.)
It is unlikely I'll be following the Pop-Gun of Rio Pedras to California, much as the West's temperate climate would ease my ghostly, tubercular condition; it is rare we possessors of the baseball pitch are allowed to perform for two seasons running. And while I forecast fair things for Joel in the future, I can understand your managements' ill feelings regarding his continued performance, especially given the composition of your "starting 'five."
I see "Old Dan" returning for the keys now, which is my cue to return to that "sporting-bar" in the heavens from which I watch the events of the championship season. We can't be "hurlers" forever—"pity us all," indeed, "who vainly the dreams of youth recall." But I must thank you all for your hospitality, and though we may not meet again
I remain,
Your spectral correspondent,
Christy Mathewson
That guy just will not. shut. up. I just spent the last twenty minutes talking to him about the gold standard.
Anyway. Joel Pineiro. Two years, $16 million is about what I expected, and for some teams—like the Angels, with a deep rotation even in John Lackey's absence—it is a wonderful deal. Pineiro is unlikely to be as good in 2010 as he was in 2009, even if that breakout season was the result of a change in skill and talent, just because it's so unlikely for anybody to remain so good in the way he was so good. Few people, save the true control savants like David Wells and Greg Maddux, can hold their walks to one per nine inning for more than a year at a time; and he's less likely still to keep his home runs below half of one per nine.
Pineiro is likely to be a good pitcher next year, but he's not as good a bet to be an innings eater as most pitchers who are coming off a season in which they were an outstanding innings eater. The Cardinals already have an expensive rotation filled with durability risk; Pineiro would have been a fine acquisition, but he's a better fit elsewhere.
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I am glad—honestly glad, not ironically glad—as someone who watched Rick Ankiel closely during every last comeback and setback, to learn that in signing with the Royals he found one team for which he is a considerable upgrade. One year, $3.25 million is steep for a guy who would be a reserve on most teams, at least to start the season, but the fact is he's not a reserve on the Royals. David DeJesus has migrated, apparently permanently, to a corner; Scott Podsednik's fielding metrics are worse than Ankiel's, without the arm; and Brian Anderson, who Ankiel presumably bumps off the 25-man roster, is solidly replacement level.
Rick Ankiel looked terrible last year, and given that baggage and Colby Rasmus's stranglehold on center field, a return engagement in St. Louis just wouldn't have made sense. But the post-mortem on his career that followed—honestly, that was going on in the middle of 2009 was hasty, at best. That awful season was directly preceded by a year and a half at an OPS+ of 120; those numbers on another team would have attracted our attention immediately, wouldn't they?
And while I saw all the ugly swings that lent credence to the idea that he had been exposed as an untrained hacker, I've also seen countless narratives thrown out the year after one year's evidence in their favor; I've seen that assigning story form to a season's splits is good for meeting deadlines but terrible for most everything else. That players so rarely meet our expectations when we're predicting some imminent collapse or breakout that is not forecast from their numbers but from our personal observations about what makes them special or different.
Whatever he ends up doing—I'm optimistic—I'm glad we got what we did out of the Rick Ankiel story. It ended badly, and it all could have gone so much better than it did, at nearly every stretch; but we'll always have this, and these, maybe the most remarkable throws from the outfield I'll ever see.
If I may bring together two of my antisocial obsessions for a moment, Rick Ankiel's career has always reminded me, in the most complimentary way possible, of F. Scott Fitzgerald's words in his essay "The Crack-Up", about his pre-breakdown sense of self: "I must hold in balance the sense of the futility of effort and the sense of the necessity to struggle; the conviction of the inevitability of failure and still the determination to "succeed" — and, more than these, the contradiction between the dead hand of the past and the high intentions of the future."
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For the Royals sake...
maybe a change of hitting coaches will revive Ankiel to the power hitter potential he once was.
Or at least someone
who can recognize pitches as something other that “fast”.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Bye Rick
While I’m glad Ankiel won’t be on the StL nine next year, I’m a bit sad to see him go.
What a wild ride he’s been. I hope he does well for the Royals… somehow.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
Gonna Miss AnK
I don’ t think the Birds had a player who elicited more emotion than AnK over the last couple years. He was dreadful, and he was awesome. Seemed like he was rarely in between. His highlight reels still give me goose bumps. I wish him well, and suspect we will wish he was with StL in 2010 (but not at that price – OMG!). By the way, I am told his wine is KILLER good!
SD
IMO
Duncan had something to do with the meltdown of what I thought was going to be the next Sandy Kofax.
by Macarver hater on Jan 22, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm...
Tough to say. La Russa certainly played a role, as did Ankiel’s crazy family life.
Now with extra feisty!
I bet drugs played its part also
Not talking about steroids either
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
he loved to play in the snow
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
He is from Florida right?
Being raised in that hell hole can do more damage than any drug could ever hope to.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
All I know
is that every burn out loser I know from where I grew up had dreams of moving to Florida or has made it down there at one point in time. I want no part of that.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
I know 15 people that moved from Illinois to Florida at some point in the last 10 years
…and only one of them still lives there, the rest moved back to Illinois within two years…thats how bad Florida is
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Jan 22, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
My numbers aren't that high.
But it’s a similar story. That’s the one place I absolutely refuse to go for a job.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Good luck Ank - wish you could have performed well enough to stay
Another sign of what a great agent that Boras is. He not only got Ank a good two year deal but set him up in a place where there will be no pressure and he’ll get 500 ABs for two years. Great deal for Rick and I hope he hits 40 homers and shows up on webgems frequently.
Just win
it a one year deal
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 22, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
second year's an option, I think?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
mutual option, isn't it?
i.e. it’s pretty much a one year deal.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
ah, gotcha.
also, eww, SBN picked that weird grinning picture of Ank’s to go into their headline.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
What is the point of a mutual option?
If the player wants out, he can. If the club wants out, they can. If neither wants out, they most likely could have struck a new deal without to much effort….. Really don’t understand it.
they're just being flirty.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
check yes or no
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Ankiel and La Russa
I think the TLR detractors, me included, should be giving Tony some real credit here. We’ve chastised him in the past for picking “favorite” guys who then tend to be abysmal major league players (Aaron Miles, Mike Gallego and the like) and then sticking with those guys when they are clearly bringing down the team. We’ve also chastised him for favoring veteran players over young guys whether it’s warranted or not.
Tony didn’t make a stink about keeping Ankiel in St. Louis even though he had every reason to do so, based on the above paragraph. He’s probably as attached emotionally to Rick more than any player ever to wear a Cardinal uniform since Tony’s been in St. Louis, due to his meltdown as a pitcher and his subsequent resurrection as a Roy Hobbs outfielder, only to falter into Rob Deer oblivion in 2009. The Cardinals need a 4th outfielder and they need a bench bat, so as much as we can rip Tony for playing Ankiel too much last year, we should be giving him at least some credit for not making a public stink about keeping Rick around to fill that hole on the 2010 Cardinals.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
by fourstick on Jan 22, 2010 8:44 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
possible
Edmonds signing coming up?
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
UHeartJimmy?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
somewhere, Boog has a sad.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
of course he did!
it was just really, really fast.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Jimmy was my first love.
I expect Boog to understand that.
Actually, Todd Zeile was my first love…but that’s neither here nor there.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
peeeeter petrelli...?
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
OHHHAhaha...he's also the executive producer.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
Awesome. Hello, fellow facebooker/knower of mutual friends.
I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
Tony gets credit for not being Tony-ish.
What a strange world, baseball.
by arch support on Jan 22, 2010 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think Tony is in a position to raise a stink about much of anything right now.
Yes, he is emotionally attached to Ankiel. Had we not re-signed Holliday, it would be a different story. But, when the GM goes out and gets Matt Holliday, a guy Tony has been clamoring for over part two seasons, with three prospects—including our no. 1—and then signs him to the largest deal in franchise history to keep him in a Cardinals uniform and under TLR field-management, Tony ought to drift back and consult Mo behind-the-scenes. (Also, don’t forget, that the organization took a major PR gamble and allowed Tony to hire Mac as hitting coach.) And Tony knows that the club has gone to great lengths and taken risks to give him the big ticket pieces that he wants. He knows it would be bad PR to complain about Ankiel leaving. I think Tony resigned himself to Ank leaving in the mid-to-late part of last season.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Agreed
I do think he deserves some credit for actually moving to a reserved, behind-the-scenes position though. It’s not something that he’s really done at any point in time during his tenure in St. Louis. FWIW, I think all of the decisions that have been made have been for the betterment of the club as well, even though some may have been risky.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
uh, this is the same Tony who brainstormed hiring a new pitching coach on Friday
and got him hired on Monday? right?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
hitting coach, geez
Duncan is obs. surgically attached.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
he's more machine than man
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
well he must be half bionic
to be walking at that age, let alone coach
i want to see Carp in his shoes when he retires
see above
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
a little bit of holliday makes the ankiel medicine go down easy.
if you don't know what is wrong with me, then you don't know what you've missed. - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 22, 2010 9:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
matt holliday is eggnog??
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
+1
wonder what he is really telling mo re jed?
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
I live here in KC
and the sports radio hosts were absolutely pissed at this signing…do they really think Jose Guillen, Posednik, Meier, Anderson, Dejesus can field better then this guy?
and his batting production will fit in with the rest of the team up here, and least i can still wear my Ank jersey
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
I actually think KC fans have a right to be pissed
GMDM just keeps tossing out small contracts at bad players and making really dumb trades. Sure, Ank’s contract isn’t for big money, but when you combine it with Kendall ($3M), Anderson ($700K), Podsednik(which may be a minor league deal…)… well, that means you’ve basically thrown pennies you barely have and piled up dead weight. When you’re already paying Jose Guillen (for some mysterious reason) to be terrible, you already have DeJesus (who’s pretty good) and Maier (who honestly probably sucks) manning your OF and cheap guys like Olivo and Buck laying around, what is the point of getting a pu-pu platter of bad players? That’s kind of a throwingshitatawall technique. It’s a sideways move at best, which are pretty useless in my book.
It’s pathetic that I’m saying this, but I really think Ankiel is the best guy they’ve brought in. Yikes.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 22, 2010 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
He definitely has the most upside of anyone
No doubt.
Thing is, they’ve had some pretty good young players come up, they just keep surrounding them with veterans who suck.
Butler, Soria, Greinke, Hochevar, Gordon, Teahen, DeJesus — that’s a whole hell of a lot better than the Cards have produced since Albert Pujols graced us with his presence at the beginning of the decade, and they still have good players in the their minor league system. If they had just embraced the Marlins strategy instead of trading for a crappy Marlins player (Jacobs) they’d be a lot better off.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
that’s a whole hell of a lot better than the Cards have produced since Albert Pujols graced us with his presence at the beginning of the decade
I dunno, with the exception of Greinke, Soria and maybe DDJ those guys are all pretty much average at best. We’ve churned out Ankiel (pitcher version), Waino (does he count? I’d probably say so), Skip, Ryan, Rasmus, and one or two others who’re probably also in the “average or thereabouts” range. I dunno if there’s a huge gulf between the two clubs in terms of what their farm systems have produced.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Butler is a trash 1bman
But his bat is starting to come around. He’s currently a cheap player and they get a lot of bang for their buck from him. He’s still only 23 and hit 51 doubles last season, in a pitcher-friendly park. I could see him posting a .370 wOBA and 25-8 HR this season.
Hochevar, Teahen, and Gordon? Well I’m with you. Teahen is pretty mediocre and Hochevar and Gordon have been pretty inconsistent. Gordon is reaching some critical seasons where you can’t say “Well, he’s young” anymore.
Still, their minor league system hasn’t been horrible. They also have Ka’iahue, Hosmer, and Moustakas down there who aren’t slouches as far as I can tell.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 22, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
FWIW
I picked up Gordon fairly late in my fantasy draft last year and had him pegged for a potential breakout year. I’m beginning to lose faith that that’s going to happen, now. I just don’t know how much more projection he’s got. I still think he’ll be about average going forward, but I don’t think he’s ever going to be Ryan Zimmerman.
I just don’t get why they keep picking up corner outfield/1B/DH options who can’t get on base while Ka’iahue rots in AAA. I think they’re going to have to trade him soon or turn over 1B to him because it’s getting a bit ridiculous. Maybe he’ll get his shot this year!
FWIW (probably not much) I like Hosmer but I think Moustakas might turn out to be a bit of a disappointment.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
GMDM is bad at his job
I just don’t get why they keep picking up corner outfield/1B/DH options who can’t get on base while Ka’iahue rots in AAA.
He’s a scout and a player development guy, but he clearly has no idea how to construct a roster. Um, Dayton… you already haveseveral guys who are 1B/DH guys. You simply cannot keep bottlenecking them in there, one after another. You just can’t. You HAVE to trade some of these guys, or NOT pick up bad ones like Jacobs.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 22, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
what?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
teahan
plays for the white sox now
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
Indeed
But he still spent significant time in their organization and as such is relevant to this discussion.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 22, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
The Royals have had better draft position than us,
for all of the recent player-development past.
"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"
"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."
Technically
Teahen was traded to the Royals in the Carlos Beltran deal…
But as for Cardinals players, how can you discount Molina, Ryan, Skip, Freese, Rasmus, McClellan, Motte, etc…as having a bad farm system? And if your going to count Hochevar, then we reserve the right to include Jaime Garcia.
If anything, I’d prefer to take the players the Cards drafted and produced than the Royals. Hell, when you have Albert Pujols, why not have a team with Ryan, Skip, Molina, and Rasmus?!
Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
I like the fact that you could put Albert Pujols on the field with a bunch of guys who make the league minimum
and still be about as good as the Royals were 2004-2006. Seriously.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
But hopefully he is not starting
Maybe entire starting infield
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty cool stuff
Whatever happened to that outfield logjam?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
that seemed to dissolve overnight
Chris Duncan?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Best birthday gift
of all time. OF ALL TIME.
Albertofstan.
F* Yeah!
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jan 22, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
potentially our entire starting lineup except for Holliday
Has played in our minor league system at one time
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
wait
Has played in our minor league system at one time
what
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
oh
it’s all one sentence. weird capitalization is weird.
i thought he was saying holliday was in our system at one time
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
partly a by-product of Duncan's philosophy
isn’t it? I’ve heard quotes to that effect, somewhere.
(Which may be connected to discount groundballers, which may be connected to keeping Albert. It’s like a circle of life.)
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
You could kinda argue that Freese is a prospect from the Padres' system, mind you...
although if I recall we jumped him up a couple of levels from high-A (where he was kinda rotting when we traded JEd for him). That’s looking like a really great trade, in retrospect (esp. if Jimmy signs to play for us again this year!).
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
P-Dub!
Oh, wait.
Though… So‘s been picked up, and hey… it’s Scott Spiezio.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
ok, i've seen "p-dub" a couple of times now
and still can’t figure it out…even went to glossary, didn’t see it there. BTW, love the glossary, but ur next edition of it should be alphabetized, whaddya think?
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
that's a good thought
some of the most-used sections of the glossary were actually addendums (addenda?), so they’re a mite disorganized.
P-Dub is Preston Wilson. Double-u = Dub. At the time, I believe VW was doing all sorts of “Vee Dub” ads, or something, plus the president’s nickname, so unless someone’s got a better explanation… that’s how it came to be.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i knew that dub=w, but couldn't imagine that we
were still talking about Puddin’head Wilson on this blog, even tho i did see where he wants back in to the MLB. Thus, the cornfusion.
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
well, he announced that he was open to a return to the MLB.
So he’s actually topical. Maybe even in the creme sense.
Neither did I, ISawG. Neither did I.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
no shit
I am open to a return to MLB too. Doesn’t mean anyone particularly wants to pay me half a mill to run my skinny white british ass out in right field, does it?
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
depends
can you outrun a bratwurst?
oh you meant to play, no probably not. then again im not sure why so many think signing jimmy is a good idea…
LaRue!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
It's like trading for the thirdbaseman of the future...
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
it really is
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Ehhhh
Freese never played in the majors for any other team before coming to STL. Ludwick did.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 22, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Soria was Rule 5 pick 12/06
KC was his fourth organization in five years if you include his stint in Mexico in 2005
This is a good point.
The collective effect of signing these lackluster players on the payroll is about the equivalent of signing a fairly sure thing good player. Rather than signing Podsednik, Kendal, and Ankiel, why not go after a player who is still good? That is a question for K.C. fans to ponder.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
But would a player who is still good. . .
want to go to the Royals? It takes two to tango, and I suspect that the only players that seriously consider the Royals are those who need a chance to rehabilitate their career in some way.
So while there are certainly reasons to criticize GMDM (great moniker, BTW), I think it’s important to realize the degree of difficulty of his job (some of it self-created, certainly). He’s dealing from a short deck both from a financial perspective and a perspective of why would anyone who wants to actually, you know, win baseball games want to play there.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jan 22, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
That's a fair point,
but I’m not even necessarily talking about top-tier free agents. Obviously, I don’t know who would be willing to play in K.C., but I would think someone decent (i.e., someone who would accept a $6-7MM salary) would play there.
One a side note, when I read, “the only players that seriously consider the Royals are those who need a chance to rehabilitate their career in some way,” I immediately thought of “Major League.” That speaks volumes to the state of the Royals.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
the royals
owner has money to spend like the Cardinals but just chooses not to, and pockets the luxury tax money his team recieves
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
Isn't the Royals owner of Wal-Mart money?
Doesn’t he actually have more money than what we fantasize to be in DeWallet?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
but what about all the money you'll save at Wal-Mart?
and we wouldn’t have thisgem without Wal-Mart…so he can do whatever he wants
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
I dunno
Marquis signed for the Nats, and Dunn the year before. Guys like Dotel go to teams like the pirates, and Gonzalez went to the Orioles. Certainly some options will be closed because the team is so poor, but really, in the ALC, the opposition is so weak that the Royals could probably be in with a shout of competing if they just signed some non-awful players. However, Moore seems intent on actually SEEKING the worst players.
Russ Branyan would’ve probably gone there if they just guaranteed him a more or less everyday 1B job, but they’d rather have dead wood like Mike Jacobs and Jose Guillen stinking up the joint. There were some decent CFers on the market, and they go and sign the corpse of Scott Podsednik. When any of their players actually show some ability (Brian Bannister and David DeJesus in recent times) there’s rumours that Moore wants to get rid of them. It’s baffling. He is truly, truly incompetent.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
as fourstick said the other day
they have nobody on their team with an OBP higher than Yadier Molina. Fricking YADI. Moore has literally gone out, found the hitters with the best ability to GENERATE OUTS in the league, and pretty much consistently employed them. Now Ankiel, too. It’s absurd, truly strange.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
FWIW
Marquis and Dunn signed for real money that the Royals haven’t been willing to spend.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jan 22, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
They did snatch Meche
Now, of course, they did reach for him, but I actually think it was and has been a decent move for them. They needed a good arm badly, and the guy has been a 4.4 and 5 WAR pitcher in the two seasons he was healthy. I’m not saying that they can compete for elite talent, but if they spend wisely they can supplement the DeJesus/Greinke/Soria/Butler core with useful players on larger contracts and then scrape the trash bin for undervalued talents… but of course Moore has no idea what an undervalued talent actually is.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 22, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I remember them being absolutely PILLORIED for that Meche deal when it went down
strange how people re-evaluate these things in hindsight (although, looking at their other FA signings of the last 3-4 years, I’d say it was more luck than judgement…)
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah...
…they got lucky w/ Meche. I think there was a good argument to be made for that contract when it was signed, but that was probably not the argument they had in mind.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 22, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
olivo and buck
are gone, and yes GMDM sucks…which honestly being here and a cards fan i go to watch other teams because the Royals just dont know how to run a franchise…and its from the top down. DeJesus is servicable, but meier, guillen and anderson are a waste of space, and i actually like the scotty pods signing given the type of line up they have up here…but hes no center fielder which is probably why they signed Ank
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
If I lived in KC,
I would be at Kauffman every time Greinke started a game being played there.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
thats the only
time the stadium is filled to half capacity
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
I beg to differ.
I have seen it 90% and 100% filled. Of course, two-thirds of the crowd was wearing red…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
well thats when the cardinals
are in town, but when its just a reg game and grienke is pitching place is still dead
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
Did a road trip to Kaufman...
…when the Angels were in town this past labor day. Pitchers were Greinke on Saturday, Hochevar for the Sunday matinee. Place was packed and rocking, which people wishing each other “Happy Greinke Day” on Saturday. Got a cool barbecue apron as a giveaway. That was a SWEET game, btw. Greinke-Lackey pitchers duel. 1-1 all the way through. Don’t remember if it went extra innings or not, but I do recall the Royals bullpen blowing it immediately after Soria exited.
On Sunday, the stadium was maybe a third full, at best, and the fans seemed almost sullen. My buddies and I skipped out on the latter part of the game (after Hochevar had given up 6 runs on what seemed like a thousand hits in 4 innings) to see the Royals HoF and then get an early start on the trip back east on I-70.
True fact.
Go for an Indians game and it’s like a ghost town.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
ouch
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
what do i keep doing?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
For better or worse...
…Rick Ankiel is a firm part of Cardinals lore now. It’s been said so much that it’s cliche, but the truth is it’s a remarkable, remarkable story. It’s largely for all the wrong reasons (but some right ones!), but I truly believe that Ankiel is one of the truly defining players of the TLR Era in St. Louis. He was one of the finest pitching prospects the organization has ever had and was seemingly on his way until that fateful playoff start. TLR seemed convinced that he’d ruined Ankiel, and I think that had a lot to do with why the organization was willing to keep him around. He had some pretty good months at the plate too, which is just a tribute to his own athletic gifts and pure desire to keep showing up. However, between injuries and being-figured-out, the time had come to move on. I wish him luck and sincerely hope he puts up great numbers in KC.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 22, 2010 8:54 AM EST reply actions
Farewell and Adieu...
…to Ank and Piniata. Thanks fer yer cowtributions, but we all have to mooove long – good luck to ya both.
I, for one, sincerely hope we haven’t seen the last of Christy’s ghost.
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
Rick Ankiel’s career has always reminded me, in the most complimentary way possible, of F. Scott Fitzgerald’s words in his essay “The Crack-Up”, about his pre-breakdown sense of self
Dude, Joe Strauss said exactly the same thing in his article in the PD today. That is so f’ing derivative.
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I'll never forget when Strauss compared Mac's glorious downfall to that of Lucifer in Milton's Paradise Lost.
That guy is a poet. Even if he is a dirty cop.
by arch support on Jan 22, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
I though the comparison of Tino Martinez to Shylock was kind of a stretch though
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I demand an IHeartBoog Ode to Ank
I’ll do one when I get home from class. Yes, I’m sure the suspense is just killing VEB
let me get a crack at this
no boo-ing!
Ankiel’s been a Cardinal carousel
Pitching and hitting suspenseful as hell
He’s off to Kansas City
And it’s a bit of a pity
But we love him and still wish him well
by d-dee on Jan 22, 2010 9:36 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Ode to Rick Ankiel
There once was a pitcher named Rick
Who later got good with the stick
And his throws were so strong
But he was hurt for too long
I hope with the Royals he’ll click.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Jan 22, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 8 recs
EDIT
Perhaps line 4 should be: But he was bad for too long
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
An Ode To Ank
the first home run, the rejoice that occurred
The explosions we heard, the emotions they stirred
emotions, which lingered, which maybe obscured
a body oft injured, a mind yet uncured
the line ’tween man and myth, though once blurred
made clear at last, and with these words assured:
the man, he is gone, no longer a Bird
but the legend lived on, forever endured
by mattyp on Jan 22, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 15 recs
Wow.
Nicely done. I’m rec’ing this, even though you’re totally stealing my thunder.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Beautiful.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
...
No more balls hitting the backstop
No more disconcerted head-drops
No more swings from the heels
Or wondering how he feels
Goodbye Ank
Goodbye
Now with extra feisty!
by spants on Jan 22, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
quote the spants, never more
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Quoth*, "Nevermore"*
/Poe nazi
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
i'm just glad i remember a poem,
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Or did you mean...
…a POEm?
YYYYYYYEEEAAAaaaahhh?
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
by mojowo11 on Jan 22, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
fml
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
YYYYyyyyyeaaaahhhhh.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for picking me up.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
;=8)
Here is the MooCow’s ode to Ank,
Once good, lately he stank;
Now he’ll catch flies for the Royals;
we remember his K’s, but also his toils
on behalf of the team with the Birds on Bats;
So long, Ank, we take off our hats.
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Jan 22, 2010 9:20 AM EST reply actions 6 recs
annnd green
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Idiot that John Kruk is...
he rightly asks rhetorically, “How many homers did the guy hit off of pitchers on steroids?”
And Cow Many Hot Dogs..
…did Big Mac eat purchased from vendors on steroids? No one thinks about THAT!
;=8)
Mmmmmmmm….hot dogs…..
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
I only eat 100% Beef Hot Dogs
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
I'm sorry but I think its a bold statement to say that there is 100% beef in a hot dog
Maybe they mean 100% cow
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
close enough for me

and it rounds up to 100
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
heh...
Always firm and juicy, the meat we use inside our hot dogs is 100% domestic beef and beef trimmings.
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
you've left me no choice...

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
actually
most hotdogs have a lot of chicken in them.
Cool fact – I dunno what the laws are in the US as regards meat labelling, but over here you’re not allowed to call mechanically reclaimed meat products any sort of meat (i.e. when they push the bones and skin of the carcass through a wire mesh at high pressure to remove the last scraps of meat as a kindy liquidy goop, after they’ve got all the meat off by conventional methods). So most hotdogs have a % of meat in them that’s not actually allowed to be called “chicken” or “pork” or whatever but instead is labelled “Mechanically reclaimed meat product” or something. Most cheap hotdogs are basically this plus a bit of chicken skin.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
This is why I don't eat hot dogs.
Except at baseball games (and not in KC, those are nasty) and at Portillo’s.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 22, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i only eat Nathan's or Kobe beef hot dogs
you can’t go wrong there
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
never tried them, they're so expensive
of course so are nate’s & kobe’s
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
rec for Portillo's
That place is fantastical, by far my favorite part of Chicago…
And yeah i realize the bar isn’t set all that high…
Chicago is a good place to be...
just gotta learn the places to avoid and it’s a lot of fun.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Mmmmm hot dogs
They’re still delicious. I try not to eat them because I made the mistake of looking at the nutritional facts one time. Don’t do that. But a good grilled Busch Stadium dog with onions and kraut, can’t beat it.
Not afraid to nitpick
I know this sounds like heresy
But I grew up on the North Side of Chicago, and I can firmly say: Wrigley Field hot dogs are the mothatruckin’ bomb.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
I don't remember Wrigley Field hot dogs but the White Sox have good ones.
I think my favorite go like this:
Busch Stadium
Comiskey… I mean US Cellular
Jacobs Field… I mean Progressive Field
Miller Park
Then way at the bottom The K- nastiest hot dog I have ever had. I get hamburgers there.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I like the Fenway Frank,
but a lot of folks don’t.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I've never had it.
I want to go to Fenway some time though.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
awesome park
mostly terrible people. Kind of reminds me of Wrigley in that way. I was there when we hung like a dozen on Daisuke and co. two seasons ago, with Glaus going over the Green Monster. It was awesome. z
The one time I went to Wrigley, I didn't consider it an "awesome park"
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 22, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
no, not in the strict sense
but it is an awesome atmosphere when it’s a day game, and nice out (and you’re not sitting in the bleachers)
yeah, if Fenway is as awesome as Wrigley
i don’t ever care to go
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
hmmm
I really like Wrigley – again, the atmosphere more than the park itself – but Fenway is still better.
You enjoy being surrounded by douchebags?
If so you should head down to Barleycorn after the game.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
It's Bad, But...
…while I have never been to a ballgame in St. Louis, I have been in Wrigley, twice! Good dogs…
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
I've been to one game at Wrigley
and I actually loved it. Saw the brew crew come in. We had great seats, second row of the second deck straight behind the plate, and the atmosphere was electric.
masochist!
watching the Cubs play the Brewers? Yikes!
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
i saw
a 14 inning game against i think the rays. great atmosphere. the people were way better than yankee or shea, too
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I mean I want to go to all of them so Fenway would be included.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
call it the Jake, everyone else still does
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
playing in cleveland caught back up to them again
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Damnit...
now I feel like I need to make a Portillo’s run…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
wow, that looks a special kind of revolting
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
It's a Chicago style hot dog...
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
in fairness, that's probably better than whatever is ground up in his feed.
if you don't know what is wrong with me, then you don't know what you've missed. - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 22, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
this doesn't look like pizza to me
or at least any pizza i’ve ever eaten
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 22, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
man, i linked it just so you wouldn't have to see it
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I hope he finished that sucker off
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
it's that "snap" that the spine makes that really gets the mouth watering.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
for a cow,
you are remarkably well-versed in edible proteins
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
83.
He hit 83.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
that was my first thought when I heard Jenkins comments too
has Fergie made the same comments about “Slammin’ Sammy”?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Jan 22, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't read the whole article
but didn’t Jenkins get in trouble for cocaine?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
TWOJS
Thats What OJ Said
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
where the EFF were all these people when Manny and A-Rod were caught?
Why isn’t anyone demanding that they be banned from baseball? I don’t get it.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
give up trying
and just enjoy Cardinal baseball
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 22, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Don't bother with mainstream media outlets...
That’s the answer.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
They play(ed) in Boston and New York
they have double standards there
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Jan 22, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The best part about this article...
is that Jenkins states "If you’re going to hold a press conference, hold a press conference." This was sent IN AN OPEN LETTER to the AP. If you are going to announce something to the press, hold a press conference.
...Ankiel has, for a while, been my favorite player.
As a Springfieldian, I watched him the first season that he was transferring to OF, and I’ve been rooting for him ever since.
Still will.
GO ANKIEL!
okay VEB... conversation between Rick Ankiel and Zack Greinke
annnnddd go.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 9:29 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Scene
American League Cy Young Award winner Zack Greinke throws in the bullpen of the Kansas City spring training facility, working on his breaking ball. A player, somewhat familiar, walks up.
Player: You need to bring your release point up a little.
Greinke, coming off one of the most dominating seasons in Major League history, incredulously asks: What?
Player: Your release point. It’s a little low. Here.
Player takes the ball and throws one of the nastiest curveballs Greinke has ever seen. And left-handed.
Greinke: Holy shit! That was incredible. Bring the release point up, you say?
Player: Yeah. Up a little.
Player walks away and Greinke reads “Ankiel” across the back of his jersey.
Greinke: We should get together and talk about pitching sometime.
Ankiel: Nah. I don’t really do that anymore. It doesn’t do anyone any good. I’m going to go take some BP. If you’ve got any pointers on my swing, I’d be more than happy for the input.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jan 22, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions 10 recs
it's totally going to happen too.
Greinke’s going to win 26 games and Ank will hit .350 and 50 HRs.
by WyoCardsFan on Jan 22, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
And the Royals
Will still lose 90 games…
Play ball!
by IL and StL Fan on Jan 22, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
I'd buy it if Greinke's curve wasn't so sick.
Dude threw a 50 mph curve in a game!
Now with extra feisty!
mom's-basement-number-cruncher-who-doesn't-really-like-baseball-but-only-mathematics-and-science-and-shit true confession
I have never seen Zack Greinke pitch in my life.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
I tried, then they changed the rotation.
Why they wouldn’t want him to pitch to Albert Pujols is beyond me. ESPN might’ve done an emergency broadcast.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not actually sure I've ever seen a Royals game that hasn't been against us
tbh, most of the AL baseball I’ve seen in recent years has been BoSox games (my housemate is a big fan) mixed in with (when it was on channel 5 here) the occasional Yankees, WhiteSox, Tigers or Angels game on the TV. I think I’ve seen the A’s about twice in my life, the Rangers and Mariners maybe a couple more times than that, and the Orioles about once.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
I watched him pitch against TEX last season.
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/1/22/1264466/joel-pineiro-and-rick-ankiel-an-ex#
Now with extra feisty!
Because you're clearly a spambot with a malfunction
who is trying to drive traffic to a forum on the forum it’s trying to drive traffic too.
I’m expecting your head will explode through force of paradox quite shortly.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
there's definitely an xibit pimp my ride meme joke in there somewhere
just straining to get out…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
I don't remember.
Was she feisty?
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
This shit scared me when I was a kid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuSsSwg9MXs
Now with extra feisty!
yep
I think i’m in the same boat on that one.
In retrospect, that was a pretty awful film (although I’ve never really liked superman much, tbh…)
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
The only good thing about Superman
is the Kill Bill speech relating to him.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
All Superman movies have been horrible in my book
Except for the anime ones
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
The one with terrance stamp in (#2?)
was good, I think, or at least, adequate. We had it on vhs when I was a kid – one of the view movies we had, so i’ve seen it tons of times. IIRC, we had that, and two of the worst Bond films (Never Say Never Again, if that even counts, and For Your Eyes Only), and, erm, Local Hero I think. Strange combo, I guess.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
I always loved Superman 2
Every once in a while I slip a “kneel before Zod!” or “guilty! Guilty!” into conversation.
When I went to see Superman Returns I got totally giddy and pumped during the opening credits with the old music and motif. It was kind of a disappointing movie but I liked it anyway.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Local Hero
is one of my all-time fave films. I love good “small” movies.
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, it's a good movie
I didn’t like it when I was a nipper but I can definitely appreciate it now. There was lots of mentions of it in the press when a “real life” story occurred a few years ago when Donald Trump wanted to build a golf course near Aberdeen in Scotland, and some old coot refused to leave his house which was on the land, no matter how many hundreds of thousands they offered him for it.
I’m not sure if it ever got built, either.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
My guilty pleasure
is Smallville
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Good stuff.
You know what scared me when I was little? Tim Curry in It and the Fly. My father used to get drunk and do that “Help me, help me” thing in the fly voice when I was little until I would cry.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
In retrospect,
I wish I hadn’t just shared that story. Oh, well. Too late now.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Eh, screw it.
You people already know ridiculously intimate things about me anyway. Too late to try and build a wall of privacy now.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
my dad used to hold me under water
or put pillows over my head. he really got a kick out of scaring the ever loving crap out of me
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
i'm remarkably normal don't you think?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I have never actually seen The Fly
I own it but never watched it. I have a huge list of movies that I have never seen but own
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
What is it about Tim Curry being terrifying?
He was terrifyingly awesome as the Lord of Darkness in Legend (unicorn tie-in huzzah) and terrifyingly convincing in Rocky Horror
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
One plus two plus one plus one
That movie really stands the test of time.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I hate rocky horror
but I readily admit he’s pretty fantastic in that movie.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
Pinocchio for me...
apparently, at age 4, I ran out of the theatre screaming when the whale ate Pinocchio.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
When I was little I cried watching "Watership Down" and the "Snowman"
which my parents used to mercilessly mock me for. Thing is, those are REALLY sad films! I still think they’re pretty sad/harrowing now…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
I cried at Bambi.
And The Fox and the Hound. I still don’t watch those movies. They just rip your heart out.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
The Fox and the Hound is evil.
Yay I saved everybody! Wait, we still can’t be friends because we’re different and society won’t let us. The-F***ing End, welcome to the real world kiddos!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
So apparently The Snowman had David Bowie in the intro???
I just figured this out because someone I know posted a link to it on Facebook. I think the tape we had didn’t include that part.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Heh. Didn't know that.
Still, Bowie in the Labyrinth is pretty much the greatest achievement of the human race, so I’ll give him a pass on the Snowman thing…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 25, 2010 8:11 AM EST up reply actions
did i give you permission to use that?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
bullshit, that goes for everyone & not just me
you should ask before using anything imho
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Seeing this in stereo makes me laugh even more for some reason.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Mr F is going to be pissed
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
....

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
i was joshin, i don't really care. i know it's yours
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Mac and cheese for you:
http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/2009/12/fancy-macaroni/
Now with extra feisty!
SBN'd
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Royals Spring Training
Ank and Greinke at the same time: So, I’ve heard about your problems.
Ank and Greinke at the same time: What problems?
Ank and Greinke at the same time: Anxiety, right? All the pressure of being a young ace, seeing yourself as a hitter…
Ank and Greinke at the same time: You too?
Ank and Greinke at the same time: Oh my god. We’re the same perso… (heads explode)
The end.
Now with extra feisty!
by spants on Jan 22, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 12 recs
does the damage that Ank can do to Grienke, while sitting next to him in the dugout during games
scare anyone else? I really think that should have been a clause in this contract (no interaction with Grienke)
oh, and rec’d
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 22, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Zack is much healthier mentally
Not that he speaks of his problems to large groups of people, but he generally acknowledges them. His support system also seems much stronger.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
yes!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, he is
I still wouldn’t take that chance.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 22, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
one doesn't actually catch mental illness like cooties
though I think there was a new study that suggested some self-selection of friends and community might go on.
[…looks around]
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I was perfectly normal before I started coming here
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 22, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Sweet Jesus.
It’s like an after school special gone horribly wrong.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
so i'm to blame for everyone being nuts too?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
awesome
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Farewell Ank
I hope he does well in KC. This year for interleague the Redbirds go to KC in June. I wish it were the other way around but it will still be cool to see him then.
Hey Ump!
There are two series, right?
One in St. Louis and one in Kansas City? Isn’t it a “rivalry” interleague match-up, so the clubs play in each city?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i think they normally do
but this year is only in KC. I would guess it has something to do with the imbalance in the number of teams. I only count 12 interleague games, which i believe is less than most teams.
Farewell Ank
I WISH YOU ILL.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
I'll risk nexdef'ing
In case the intertubes wink out on me again.
No offer was made to Jo-El because they were plum out of multi-year contracts. Imagine that!
I am, however, pleased that we have minimized the L’s in our starting rotation… as much as it is possible, anyway. /letter-play
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
No offer was made to Jo-El because they were plum out of multi-year contracts. Imagine that!
That happens when you give four year deals to Kyle Lohse…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
sad trombone.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
you know, for once, just this once. i'm happy about that deal
i wanted no more from the Pinata
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
does anyone here
really want to give pineiro another multi-year deal?
by Evilfrog on Jan 22, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the report I heard implied they were out of budget
am not so much stressing the multi-year bit.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
I think this year is fine
but we’re already pretty much finished spending for 2011, especially if there’s any chance we’re giving Albert more money in that season. I could see us maybe adding a pitcher and a bench player (kinda like the 2007 or 2008 free agency periods) but nothing substantial, and probably no deals above about $5m.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
The Cards have a way with encores
Wouldn’t surprise me to see a 37 year old Rick Ankiel down in Jupiter trying to make a comeback as a loogy with TLR just pleased a punch to have Ank back with the team.
Those throws
They stick with me – they really do. More than the Waino strikeout in the NLCS, more than any Pujols swing except the train shot in Houston. Man. I love watching those throws.
Me too
They’re among my favourites moments as a Cards fan in the last few years. Even more so than moments like his first HR as an outfielder..
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
should've slept with it when you got the chance
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 10 recs
This reply makes me happy.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
did we really have a ligit chance though?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
mlb.com has a horrible, horrible searching system
which makes finding stuff like that without a direct link pretty much impossible. It’s one of my constant frustrations in life.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
i can't wait for microsoft to stop sponsoring them, too.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
what's in your omelette
if i may ask
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Ham & cheese
with greasy hash browns smothered in gravy. Quite good.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I discovered by random eating-up-leftovers-chance a while back
that a bastardised spanish omelette made like a regular omelette but with really slow-fried grated potato and onion, is pretty much the food of the gods. Strange but true. Try it.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
leftover cooking is the best kind
I should learn how to cook gumbo
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Weirdly (on the southern food theme), jambalaya used to be my specialty when I was a student
though I’ve probably not cooked it now for nearly a decade. I should dig that shit out again!
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
not a fan of leftover gumbo
The shrimp flavor seems to take over
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
I have a strong aversion to okra
especially when trying to cut it up when it’s raw. Ugh! What a stink!
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Or rather, when it's cooking...in a pan...
nm
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
I am a massive fan of cooking, eating, and trying every food under the sun
and there’s nothing I won’t try, pretty much, and very little I really dislike. But okra is clearly NOT food.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
Have you had fried okra?
It is one of my favorite things.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
that's the only way i'll eat it
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Chock Full of Ick...
:=8P
There is no way an Italian would eat such a vile thing!
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
i'm not italian, in fact, i can't eat italian food
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
The fact that it's called "Ladies' fingers" is ineffably unpleasant, too
And no, I don’t believe I’ve had it fried. I’ve only had it in indian cuisine. I’m in no great hurry to add it to my list of foods I can eat, because I hardly ever come across it.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 25, 2010 8:13 AM EST up reply actions
i really do love cooking
would anyone be against me turning viva el baro into viva el diner? i’ve always wanted my own diner
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
gotta ask
Can you tell me how to do that? I capture pics but dunno how to do video. I’d hate to lose track of these.
If you have the time and are bored...
give me a shout at veb-login-name at sdrone dot net.
Why?
I’m not sure what everyone thinks Edmonds will contribute .
well I don't care what everyone thinks
I’ll take 100 Jimmy K’s as long as I get to see 1 Jimmy HR at Busch (not including anything seen on MLBN)
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
i will second that
i will buy more tickets to watch him sell third base dives or whatever else he has to show even if it’s just his ass in a uniform
He's got a better chance at succeeding there
with their little pennant porch in RF and the jetstream that takes balls out there.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
will that jet stream always be there
or is there future construction/demolition that will get rid of it?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
but he never was a true
“pull” HR hitter IMO. I don’t know how much it will help him.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
he hit a lot to straightaway centre from what I recall
but he had a fairly pull-friendly swing…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
I think in his last couple years, he was more of a pull HR hitter
during his glory years he would jack a dong out of any part of the stadium.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 22, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
He had, at one time,
one of the best opposite field power swings out there…IMO
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Ank did not negotiate properly. See below
Ank should immediately call dayton moore and ask for a 1yr 5 million dollar deal and eventually take the 2yr 15 million dollar deal Dayton offers.
Mo, you can trade anything of mine.
by njnick on Jan 14, 2010 7:54 AM PST up reply actions 15 recs
1.14.10, the day I went green.
by njnick on Jan 22, 2010 10:12 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
rec for calling it
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Telegram: Esteemed Ectoplasmic Hurler Christy Mathewson
I write to inform you that your services may be further needed stop
Cardinals have acquired pitcher by name of Brad Penny stop
Evidence of latent ground-ball tendencies but surprisingly low rate of strike-out stop
Respectfully, mattybobo
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Jan 22, 2010 10:56 AM EST reply actions 9 recs
I enjoyed this.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
recerific for awesome use of old time telegrams
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
My opinion
Jo-El was as good as gone, we all knew that. There was no way the Cards would put the money up for him. I have a feeling that he will be pre-2008 Pineiro in LA anyway.
As for Ank, I have mixed feelings. In a way, I am glad he is gone because of his offensive struggles, but in another I am sad. Ank has been a Cardinal for a long time (11 years I think), and it will be different seeing him in another uni. I will definitely miss that cannon of an arm. I was a big fan of Ank when he came back, and my dad & I were both fired up when he hit his first homer as an outfielder in 2007. It was kinda sad to see such a great story crumble in a matter of months. Of course, that scary shoulder injury didn’t help him, and it was really sad that Ank left without saying a word, having been with us for more than a decade.
Regardless, I wish Ank well.
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Good riddens
Honestly 2010 is going to feel like a breath of fresh air. Our 2010 lineup is going to be around the same every single day. We got rid of all our dead weight. No more Wellemeyer, Ankiel, Duncan, or Thurston. If our worst player right now is Julio Lugo than I think we are doing pretty good. Also, if Pineiro can reinvent himself why can’t Penny who has far and away superior stuff.
I hope we resign Smoltz and don’t sign Edmonds.
somewhere, Green Day has a sad
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
You mean the rotting corpse of Green Day, right?
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 22, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
thought it was implied
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
If our worst player right now is Julio Lugo than I think we are doing pretty good.
Ruben Gotay would like a word, and he’s PISSED.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
one random triple-A swallow does not a summer make.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind signing Edmonds, purely for sentimental reasons
He’d just be on the league minimum, right? Yes on Smoltz.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 22, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
I honestly see JEd
patrolling left field for the Yanquis next season. Not for league minimum however.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
which would be great for several reasons (i'll name 3)
1. if it’s ugly, it won’t happen here
2. if it’s great, it might lock JEd into the HOF
3. it’s New York, Baby! JEd might bring half-shirts back into style!
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
I still want him to sign here though, logic be damned!
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
logic & reason go out the window when Hollywood is involved
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
yep, I could get behind Smoltz & Jimmy B.
MAKE IT SO.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
Good Ol Mets
Looks like they are trading for Gary Matthews Jr. Really? Fucking Omar Minaya always trying to one up Dayton Moore.
And he gets an extra $500k bonus...
for accepting the trade on top of his already preposterous $55 million contract.
I’d be ashamed to take that money, or at least I’d send it to Haiti or something.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
That bonus is pretty funny.
Matthews has been clamoring for a trade for something like a year now, hasn’t he? So, not only does he get playing time, he also gets $500K. I imagine that his agent gets a cut of that trade bonus, as well the agent should.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Do you think Sarge Jr has ever been ashamed of anything in his life?
Ever?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Jan 22, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Man I'm really starting to like the Mets
Now, they aren’t the Cubs, but they’re awesome.
the mets are only paying him 2m for 2 yrs
and dumping a kinda sorta useful middle reliever.
angels are eating 20m to get rid of the guy
fuck
that’s what you call a salary dump.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
I'd feel really bad if someone had to pay $21M to get rid of me.
Then I’d wipe my ass with a $100 bill.
by Mister Eff on Jan 22, 2010 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
speaking of, what'd sammich place did you eat lunch at today?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
sounds good, minus the peppers. i can't handle the peppers
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
It was great, as always.
Didn’t get the employee discount like normal, though. New girl working the register.
that just sounds dirty
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
i've been telling women that for years
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 22, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it's supposed to be alcohlic, isn't it?
I thought it was fermented to like a 0.05% ABV or something. PROPER ginger ale, I mean.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 25, 2010 8:14 AM EST up reply actions
There's ginger ale and ginger beer.
Ginger beer can have some alcohol because it is fermented. Ginger ale is just a ginger-flavored soft drink.
I'm living in an age that calls darkness light...
My feelings on Ank
in a blog entry.
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F. Scott Fitzgerald
That’s an interesting Fitzgerald quote, DanUp. Interestingly, Ankiel is a case study in disproving what is arguably Fitzgerald’s most famous quote:
“There are no second acts in American lives.”
For what it’s worth, I commend and thank Rick Ankiel for his brave and inspiring second act with the Cardinals.
by heyzeus on Jan 22, 2010 11:34 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
why is Leach publishing sth on Penny now of all times?
it’s like they’re trying to justify letting go of Joel and the contract they gave Penny
btw, was there a press conference yet where they introduced him as a Cardinal?
Don't forget that Leach is a Cardinal organization propagandist.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
not as bad as Muskat, at least.
But it is the Mothership.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
I have no problem
at all with M Leach. I think he does a solid job.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I don't have a problem with him, either.
But, MLB signs his paycheck and he writes a fair amount of fluff. I like his writing and really enjoy his blog, but he rarely (dare I say never?) been critical of the Cardinals as an organization or written an unflattering story about them, if I’m not mistaken. The news of stlcardinals.com is controlled by the St. Louis Cardinals.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
leach hasn't been here in almost a year
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I believe that the Cardinals mothership site is not controlled by the Cardinals at all, actually
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
I don't either
I know Leach has written some stuff the Cards would not run on that site, if it were completely under their control.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Goold and Leach
are actually one and the same person. Leach is Goold’s nom-de-mothership, and he writes there when he feels like being a toady.
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
stupid question
what’s sth?
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
internetese?
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Sith.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, that's how i always read it.
I think I’m usually pretty up on internet abbreviations and acronyms, and I’ve never seen anyone using “sth” for something outside of here (in fact, it might just be d-dee…)
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
actually that's what they teach us in school
smth is another standard abbreviation for it
now that i think of it, native speakers might not be familiar with this because they don’t read english dictionaries..
Two there always are... master and apprentice.
Lord Duncan has conveniently gotten rid of his former apprentice, Darth Siñquero, now that he no longer has a use for him. He has been replaced by a new Sith, Darth Centiquid.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Jan 22, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
get those photoshops going
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
I have a Clash of the Titans centiquid photoshop somewhere at home
I’ll have to see if I can dig it out tonight. It’s probably in the sock drawer or something (actually, it’s on the laptop…)
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
I may actually be excited for the remake
Though that calls for a Harryhausen marathon. Does TNT still do MonsterVision marathons?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
I love the old Harryhausen films
I think Jason and the Argonauts is my fave. They seemed to used to be on a lot of xmas here. My christmas film viewing nearly always used to include It’s a Wonderful Life, a liberal dose of Harryhausen stuff, a Chaplin film or two and The Great Escape. Wonderful. I didn’t see any of those this year, though :-(.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Which Chaplins?
Say City Lights and I’ll be your best friend forever.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
another movie I own that I have not seen
I went crazy one year and got all the IMDB Top 250
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
City Lights is one of the four or five best films ever made.
One of the coolest things I’ve ever seen was a couple years ago, for Valentine’s Day I believe, the Moolah (I think it was the Moolah? Why can’t I be sure of that?), put on a showing of City Lights with a live orchestra playing the film score. It was unbelievable.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Oh thank god.
When I try to remember something and then I’m wrong about it, I get all panicky and can’t sleep for a couple days. (I’m actually serious about that, by the by.)
Did you attend that performance?
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, that's a shame.
May I ask, then, how you’re so sure it was the Moolah? Just curious as to why you recall it so clearly.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
I think that was actually done by the St. Louis Symphony for New Year's
http://www.slso.org/0506/sec.htm
I really wanted to go, but wasn’t able to.
I hope I haven’t fouled your sleep patterns, red.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Jan 22, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, shit.
Yeah, that’s going to bug me for quite some time now.
Thing is, I don’t remember having dressing up for the performance. I was thinking Mel (gf at the time), and I went in something more casual.
Boy that bothers me.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 23, 2010 3:26 AM EST up reply actions
Then again,
now that I think of it, maybe we did have to dress up, because I also remember her standing in front of the bathroom mirror, joking she should wear her work uniform and see if they would let her in.
Well, either way, thanks for the link, Continental. At least I know now.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 23, 2010 3:27 AM EST up reply actions
I've enjoyed more or less all of his that I've seen
and I am by no means an encyclopedic consumer of his work, but City Lights is one of his finest. If I were to go for a cliched choice, I’d say probably Modern Times might be about my favourite, it seems to have aged better than many. The Kid is pretty strong too. Of his silent “classics”, I think the Gold Rush is about the only one I’ve not been as keen on that I’ve seen.
I didn’t feel the great dictator really worked, although it’s obv an important film – I’m actually more a fan of his silent work.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
See, this stuff right here
This is what is oh so wrong right about this site. I try my hardest to keep steering us towards a geeky Star Wars subthread and it turns into a discussion about Chaplin. Star Wars just isn’t geeky enough for VEB.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
we had a pretty in depth Star Wars conversation 2 days ago
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
i blame Lucas
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Anyone recall
that Harryhausen’s is the name of the sushi restaurant in Monsters, Inc.?
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Harryhausen Penny goodness
well fuck this i can’t seem to get any site to host the damn thing that ain’t broken.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
I want to see that
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
rec'd
but I hereby reserve the right to rescind said rec if Penny does not learn the ways of the dark side.
by ArkansasTravs on Jan 22, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
Star Wars?
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can I just say that Joel was ROBBED, ROBBED I SAY, of a Gold Glove
I less than three Waino as much as the next person, but the lack of outrage in light of Piñeiro’s defense is appalling. Cy Young contention wins Gold Gloves?! Next thing you’ll tell me offense wins Gold Gloves.
Oh… wait, this just in: players who fail to make the cut for their home country’s team are ineligible. Never mind.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
el oh el.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
I was hoping you got it
and were just being ironic.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
I was hoping that, too.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Jan 22, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Ha!
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, this is the real reason Jo-el left
He couldn’t wait to be quit of Oqueno.
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
*Oquendo
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
so, um
yesterday’s thread(s)? worth reading? can i get a clif notes version maybe?
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 22, 2010 12:09 PM EST reply actions
they are always worth reading
what else are you going to do in that cold, dead place?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 22, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
i have a nice post-it note list full of things to do in the next three days
maybe starting on that instead?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 22, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Is anyone else having problems with IE freezing up
once comments hit about 750? I didn’t used to have this problem, but it’s been true for about a month now. I know a lot of y’all don’t use IE anymore, but for those who do, give me a holler?
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
IE can't handle all the green
Are you forced to use IE or by choice?
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Choice
I have an aversion to change.
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
just get google chrome for surfing this site maybe?
works for me
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
If Albert Pujols
played for the Royals. (hypothetically) Would they be favored to win the ALC?
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
I always thought the NLC was a trainwreck
now I think the ALC might be even worse.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Agree
but could the greatest player in our generation carry the Royals?
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
I like to put them in context
He’d be in the same division as Mauer.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
If for some reason (god forbid) we weren't able to re-sign him
I’d hope he’d go to the Royals. It would show that he’s at least still the hometown guy we thought he was.
I’d still cry hot hot tears.
If he was it's not a fair contest
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
sort of the curt schilling of the nineteen-aughts?
That guy just will not. shut. up. I just spent the last twenty minutes talking to him about the gold standard.
if you don't know what is wrong with me, then you don't know what you've missed. - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 22, 2010 12:41 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
His expression is priceless.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
I disagree!
He barely comes up to most people’s shoulders.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
As a short person I would rather not be associated with Rosenthal please
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
If I'm coming from NW Arkansas by car and spending the night.
what’s the absolute cheapest I could get away with spending, and how?
spending on gas or hotel?
And where are you driving to? Busch Stadium?
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Kill a drifter and take his bindle.
Sleep in his traincar.
by Mister Eff on Jan 22, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 22 recs
why the hell won't SBN let me rec this SOB?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 22, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
I had to log out, and then log back in
just to freakin rec it
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
rec on three! 1,2,3!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
rec!
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Rec'd for proper use of bindle.
And general awesomeness.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
So THAT'S what those things are called
You learn something everyday.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
probably the fastest green ever, i think....
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder what that says about us?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
something to do with cutting and burning.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I rec'd it out of sincerity, not humor
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
hotel rooms are fucking expensive at the last minute
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 22, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
21
it’s now legal
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Just so I know I haven't missed anything
We still don’t know what happened with Schu, right? Is he going to arbitration?
I doubt it will actually go to arbitration
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
i find it weird that we heard so much about
schu and cards close to a deal and nothing about luddy
and then all of a sudden luddy is taken care of out of the blue and silence about schu
should we be worried?
Another stupid question:
If a player just wants to sign a one year deal, why would they sign before arbitration? Can’t they usually get more with an arbitrator?
They way arbitration works
Is the player submits one number and the team submits one. The arbiter picks one. But most of the time they meet somewhere in the middle
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
isn't there some rehashing of evaluations and such?
like employee performance reviews…
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
yeah but the Cardinals literally never got to arbitration
Not since Darren Oliver
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
If they trade numbers at exactly the same time
I wonder how often it’s happened that the team’s offer has been higher than the player’s asking price? I would bet that exactly for this reason, the player always has to submit first.
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
someone pointed out ot the Luddy that it was a 47% raise. like his number. /random
maybe they’re just practicing their smokescreen skills.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
so are you saying Skip only gets a 55 % raise?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
now I'm wondering how much that is
we can find out…
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I don't they will settle for 666,500
if so, Skip needs to fire his agent
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
oh that's right
I keep forgetting it’s his first year for that. it seems like Skip’s been around forever.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
well they way I guessed Luddy's
He got $3.7M in 1st year of arbitration. Normally is 40% what he would get on the free agent market. 2nd year they normally get 60%. So I did 3.7/4 * 6 and got $5.55M
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
OT: Anyone know anything about
Asterisk pbx systems? I am trying to set up a free VOIP service for my house.
I had my first VEB dream last night.
I dreamed that I showed up to VEB day and no one else was there. It was actually really sad.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Did anyone give you a party hat?
’Cause then it would be sad and funny, instead of just sad.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
she'll have a migraine.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
probably not.
I really want to but I live in Phoenix, so it’s not so easy for me.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Hmm.
Logical, but I thought maybe the waitstaff came out, gave you a hat, then laughed at you and threw boxes of rice chex at you.
Or maybe that’s just my dreams.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha
this made me laugh. I can just see myself sitting there all sad at the bar with a beer in my hand and a hat on my head and then the bartender comes by and hits me in the face with a box of cereal. LOL
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Oh, sure, laugh.
It ain’t nearly as funny when it’s you waking up in a cold sweat, the smell of Chex thick in your nostrils. I, I can still hear the rattling of the box sometimes…
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
áąha underscore áąha
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
we should ask gdm.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
....

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
why the hell is that pitcher wearing shorts?
f’in Japanese baseball
and why is that baseball yellow?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
that's too small to be a softball, isn't it?
and it can’t be softball, there is no way that many cameramen would be at a softball game
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
And the all-dirt infield.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
logic,logic,logic
they must just have little softballs in wherever that was taken
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
shot at gdm right outta nowhere
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
i don't know, i just know words hurt too
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
i have no idea, these pics find me, i don't find them
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
It looks like the former Japanese all-stars' softball game played the day
before the actual Japanese All-Star game? Maybe?
Reminds me of an intermural softball game I was playing in college. Our pitcher (girl A) pitched to a batter (really brute strong, hot blonde girl B), who proceeded to pulverize the ball right into the pitcher’s nose, thereby breaking it into little bits (nose, not ball). One of the ugliest injuries I’ve ever seen.
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
except their seasonal festivals.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Don;t You Watch Japanese Monster Moovies?
Like with Rodan or Mothra or Godzilla? There is always a little kid that the military turns to when the monster du jour is flattening Tokyo, and he always is wearing those creepy little shorts.
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
those are the censorship shorts, moo.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
It's so true
He often has a hat and a backpack.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Everyone was there
They all just told you the wrong section.
will i get in trouble if i say something about Big Mac?
I am listening to a long interview with Bob Costas on the Bernie show and I hear something crazy that I wanted to share.
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 1:15 PM EST reply actions
I know I know
I said First! one time during a game day thread.. I cautious with my VEB rep
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
There was an investigative reporter from ESPN I believe that talked to Big Mac's provider
and they said something along the lines of “Paris Hilton could run over Dick Butkus if she took the same stuff that Mac did”
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
I would pay so much money to see that.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
I would also pay top dollar to see
Paris Hilton run into some dick
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
That's not a rare occurance.
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by spants on Jan 22, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
would you have paid money to see the contest between paris hilton and Mr. Slave?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
You don't have to pay top dollar.
You can get that shit on several hundred sites for like ten bucks.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
God bless the degredation of society!!!
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
link to the ESPN stuff I mentioned earlier
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
oh im sure they dont
but it sells does it not?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
I've always been partial
to street pharmacist.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
not "in trouble" with mods per say
but lame and douchey
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Can somebody talk me into buying a PS3 for the Show?
I really don’t have enough time to justify 2 consoles… We are saving up for a house so money is kinda tight… but not having a baseball game to play is killing me
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 1:31 PM EST reply actions
Is it not coming out on PS2?
Obviously not the same, but better than nothing.
Now with extra feisty!
I think it is
and I hope so, since I have a PS2. I haven’t heard otherwise.
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yeah but the ps2 version is not as cool as the ps3 version.
Ugh…
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
true.
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sadly i just traded my ps2 in last month
damn it all
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
yep
an xbox game I have been looking for forever… an xbox 360 game… and a bunch of live points that I used to download some albums for beatles rock band
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Never getting rid of that thing.
I’ve heard some PS2 games won’t play on PS3.
Now with extra feisty!
i thought that i heard that no ps2 games would play on ps3
that it wasn’t backwards compatible
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Apparently there's an emulator you can get?
I don’t know much about it. I asked in the previous free-for-all thread, but got no response.
Now with extra feisty!
hmmm
i dont know… of these things i am ignorant
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
no current pc on the market
can handle that emulation
it’ll take years before you see one
many years
ps3 must be modded with an extra hdd
then have to download the emulator
and must play the games from hdd, can’t play from disk
it’s a pain
does tha void the warranty? (spelling)
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
For the cost of the HDD, you should just re-buy a PS2 if you want it.
They’re cheap at pawn shops, I hear.
Now with extra feisty!
this is it
the first ones were backwards compatible, and as a result they’re worth more used at gamestop etc. than the new slim ones are. it’s ridiculous.
That's what you said.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Heh.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Think that one may have gone
overhead.
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
Ok
Now that i’ve read this a couple of times, maybe not.
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't that funny?
How it was almost impossible to tell if we were on the same wavelength or not? I read her replay half a dozen times before deciding to offer the benefit of the doubt and assume she got the joke. (I was wrong, of course, but I feel okay about it.)
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 23, 2010 3:40 AM EST up reply actions
ha ha
one of the baron’s best , IMO
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Gracias.
I was rather proud of that.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 23, 2010 3:40 AM EST up reply actions
There was only one model produced
that was backward compatible, and they stopped making it. Why I’m not sure, unless the compat software was a real memory hog.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 22, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
older ps3s are backwards compatible
newer ones apparently not. i assume they’re planning on offering ps2 games for download at some point, like they do with the ps1 games now.
really?
then I suppose I can’t trade mine in. I cannot say goodbye to Need for Speed Underground 2.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
if you like ps2 games then you should try out the mark of kri (spelling?)
I had that game for my ps2 and loved it…
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Holy crap.
I just realized that I’ve been on VEB for a full year now. And I will say this – I couldn’t imagine being anywhere else. This place rocks.
/selfishly waiting for recs after praising VEB
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c'mon man...
I was only kidding. Guess I should’ve indicated sarcasm.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jan 22, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
at least, on the selfish part
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 1:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Thank Go... oh yeah, forgot... Onion's fake
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About to go the library
Been on a fantasy book crave lately. Just read the New Sun series and liked it. Any other good sci fi or fantasy books out there?
...

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Jan 22, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 10 recs
the only comment that keeps circling my brain is that he is wearing a cosby sweater
A COSBY SWEAT-TAH
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
haha
rec’d
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ever read hitchhikers guide to the galaxy?
Douglas Adams is really really funny and there are like 5 books in the series
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Have you read Joe Abercrombie's First Law trilogy?
The Blade Itself, Before They Are Hanged, and Last Argument of Kings. I thought very highly of it.
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
Kim Stanley Robinson;
Red Mars
"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"
"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."
check out jim butcher
his dresden files series is pretty awesome.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
Can anyone else explain this to me?
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/royals-sign-ankiel/
.350 wOBA for anKiel next year?
With a hat tip to "So I Married an Axe Murderer"
wOBA
Whoa buh
…I can’t come up with anything else
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by jd is legend on Jan 22, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I don't use wOBA
because I have simply run out of space for offensive stats in my brain, but wasn’t Ankiel’s, uh, that higher than .350 in 2007 and 2008?
Honestly I just see no special reason for him to be any more done than the average hitter who has an off year after one and a half good ones. I am not a scout, and I’m done trusting my eyes.
Ankiel was about ~.360 in 07 and 08
And 07 was in very limited playing time. Projecting him anywhere near than that after a .290 wOBA year is ridiculous, whether he was injured or not. That’s not to say he doesn’t have the potential to do that – just he should be expected to at all.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 22, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
I think Dave might be attributing too much of last year's performance to injury.
The flip side of saying this, though, is that perhaps we are not attributing enough of last year’s performance to injury.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Even if we aren't atributing enough to injury
Injuries still effect a guys performance! If I was to tell you that a year ago I was a good hitter, but I spent the last year so injured that I could only manage a .288 wOBA, I would say that injury should have substantial effect on performance going forward.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 22, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
So would I.
And my initial reaction was to scoff at Cameron’s statement of expecting a .350ish wOBA to be reasonable. But, we all watched Ankiel look completely lost for the entire year and that has undoubtedly left a bad taste in our mouths. Perhaps the truth is somewhere in between, which seems likely. Of course, you seem to give Pineiro’s 2009 performance more weight when evaluating him moving forward than I do. Likewise, you also seem to give Ankiel’s 2009 performance more weight going forward than Dave Cameron does. Correct me if I’m wrong, but you feel that each of their 2009 seasons reflect their true talent level (whether that be to objectively improving or declining).
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I don't think I tend to give 2009 performance more weight than I otherwise would
In fact, I generally stress the opposite. For Pineiro, I have a very specific reasons for doing so, which I’ve explained billions of times yesterday. And the only reason I feel confident in my assessment of Pineiro is the sheer amount of time I’ve spent looking at him.
For Ankiel, I think the question is how much injuries effected his 2009 performance. Going into 2009, Marcel’s had Ankiel at .349, so let’s say that was his estimated true talent level going into 2009. In actuality last year, he had a .288 wOBA.
Now if we recalculated Marcels for next year (including 1200 plate appearances of regression and aging), we get .325. So how much of Ankiel’s performance last year would have to be attributable to injury to get .350? Well, for Ankiel to project for a .350 wOBA, he would have had to have a .350 wOBA last year – which was exactly the same as his projection going into 2009!
So that means Dave is attributing 100% of his performance last year to injury, and NOT including ANY chance that the injury effected him long term.
Isn’t that completely ridiculous?
by vivaelpujols on Jan 22, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Yes.
It does seem ridiculous. Maybe a wOBA of .330ish would be more reasonable. Don’t feel like I’m attacking you. I’m not. I tend to agree with you on the Cameron expecting a .350ish wOBA from Ank. That said, I’m more critical of my impressions from watching a player play, so I tend to want to explore someone’s opinion that runs contrary to what my eyes tell me. So, maybe my calling for some consideration of Cameron’s assessment is misplaced because of my skepticism.
On Jo-El, I’m less bullish on the repeatability (is that a word?) of Pineiro’s 2009 performance than you are. However, I’ve not done the work you have on Pineiro. PIneiro really is a nice little test case for the magical effect of Dave Duncan, isn’t he? I know I’ll be paying close attention to his starts over the next couple of years.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Sorry for Capsing on you with Ankiel
About Pineiro, my thought process is really very simple.
When we do projections, the reason we include previous years performance is because the inputs != the outputs. If Pineiro had done the same things he’s always done, we could reasonably expect that he just got lucky, or had a good year, and nothing really changed about his performance to explain the variability.
However, we know that Pineiro was different last year – and it’s not just phony causation. He legitimately changed his approach, and the fact that he had such a good season, means that it’s more likely that that change in approach is responsible.
Correlation does not equal causation, but it does imply it. And when you can find legitimate causation to go along with that correlation, that’s pretty strong evidence.
So back to projecting him. Using a typical Marcel approach, we would get him around a 4.00 ERA/FIP. However, since we think that his new approach is what, in part, caused his 2009 since season, we should weigh that season higher than we otherwise would, because there is a decent chance that it wasn’t just random variation.
So if we adjust the weighting, we get a lower FIP, around 3.8-3.9!
by vivaelpujols on Jan 22, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Pineiro
I picked up what you were putting down about Jo-El yesterday and I understand what you are saying. Here is the root of my skepticism. First and foremost, I hated his contract when it was signed and I’ve never liked Pineiro. (This dislike grew when girls that we would watch games with at bars would comment on how attractive Pineiro was as well as his WBC hissy fit and his being so out-of-shape heading into 2008.) I’m not a big Pineiro fan. Now, let us get to the numbers!
His walk rate of 1.14 BB/9 was a career low and less than half of his career rate of 2.56 BB/9. I worry about how repeatable this will be because his Zone in 2009 was 52.5, or, roughly identical the 52.9% it was in 2008 and slightly below his career Zone % of 53.9%.
I also wonder if he will throw his sinking fastball at a 70% clip again and still have it be about a +23 pitch (!) moving forward. (For a comparison of how good Pineiro’s 2009 two-seam fastball was, Wainwright’s 2009 curveball was a +23 pitch, too.)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
According to my calculations, his Zone% was significantly higher last year
By about 3%, and all of those extra pitches in the zone were in the bottom third of the zone. I don’t know how FanGraphs calculates Zone%, but I adjust for batter hand and batter height, so I’m pretty confident in my numbers.
I don’t think that Pineiro’s fastball will be a +23 pitch. The primary reason for that was all of the strikes that got called on it, which are in part luck (umpires gave him a few more called strikes on pitches outside of the strike zone compared to league average).
However, based on the movement he gets on it, and the location in the strike zone, I’m comfortable calling it at least a 55% GB pitch going forward.
It won’t be +23, to be sure (and that’s kinda misleading comparing it to Wanio’s, who didn’t throw nearly as many curves as Pineiro threw sinkers, the rv100 is what you should be looking at, and Pineiro was +1.14, and Waino was +2.71!); however, it will still be a strikethrowing, groundballing pitch.
He’ll allow more homeruns and walks, and I have to think his K’s will go up as well, but he’ll still have a walk rate WELL below league average, due to the fact that he will get such early contact in the count and pound the bottom of the zone with the sinker, and a well below average homerun rate due to his GBs.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 22, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
But I thought stats with a little "w" at the begining were all better?
So the wPitch Type is no good? Shit. Where does one even find rv100? I’m assuming this takes into account the number of times a pitch is used.
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Oh, rv100 is the proper term for it, or at least the one I use
It’s just the average run value * 100. On FanGraphs, it’s the wX/C one I think.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 22, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
If I were a Royals fan
I’d be hoping for a league-average wOBA from Ankiel with decent defense. I’d call a wOBA of .330 or so satisfying. Average wOBA usually hovers around the .320s, right?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Ah. I thought it was a tad lower.
Anyway. I would be surprised at this point if he puts up a .350 wOBA. I think Kauffman has some sort of weird radiation that cancels out on base percentage.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
it's scaled to roughly recapitulate OBP
so average is about the same as average OBP (give or take a few hundredths…)
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
I remembered that
I just thought the average (of both) was a tad lower. Fangraphs has me confused on the matter; on the player pages they peg the average OBP as .330 and above the last several years, but average wOBA dips below .330 a few times.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I think it's something to do with interleague games or something similarly weird
probably nothing to lose sleep over.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 25, 2010 8:17 AM EST up reply actions
Fangraphs commenters are kind of retarded.
Any post disagreeing with the main one is like -8, while anything agreeing is +8.
"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"
"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."
I know, I love how my post is -9 now!
The funny thing is nobody actually has any rebuttal to it.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 23, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
I've got a rebuttal:
-10 booyah!
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"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."
by hazel on Jan 23, 2010 1:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
just sign Edwards already
it’s not really about what he can contribute on the field, but I like the idea of having him around the team in general.
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Edwards?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I'm sad that no one got that
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Edwards(cissorhands)?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
fine, fine, fine, I'll add it to the glossary
I thought for sure I put in the link to past glossaries, though, so it should’ve been out there somewhere.
Mostly I thought no one from 2006 would come back to haunt us. I’m wrong, okay!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
how in the hell does no one get that anymore?
f’in noobs
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I was late to this part of the thread
and it made me sad, sad, sad
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
don't try to be an inspiration
just wasting your time, time, time
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I tried it a couple/three days ago.
One or two folks got it. f’in noobs.
by ArkansasTravs on Jan 22, 2010 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
you know there really is a Jon Edwards
is that what this is all about?
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
yeah but I mean there is (or was)
a jon edwards in the cardinals organization
was he the Allen Craig of years past?
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
that guy
sat at the back of my getupbaby prospect lists for years and proceeded to never follow up on his big season as an 18 year-old.
But is that what Edwards means?
Why won’t anyone just tell me?
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
I think someone was posting a lineup here one time and typed Edwards
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by jd is legend on Jan 22, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2009/8/5/978227/an-abridged-veb-glossary#19403188
Think; It's not illegal yet.
Me too, Dan.
Every year I kept saying this kid is going to break out in a big way, and every year he just doesn’t. It’s really depressing.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 23, 2010 3:44 AM EST up reply actions
IF it's not about on the field play
Then why are we “signing” him to a contract?
Give him some money and don’t count him toward our payroll.
Um, not sure if I've been nexdef'd on this...
…but did anyone see that news about the A’s top prospect (Grant Desme, I think is his name) leaving baseball entirely…to go into the priesthood?
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
Transubstantiation for the win
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
by STLRegalia on Jan 22, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Jan 22, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
so on a whim i googled that kid's name...
I found the ESPN story for it and for some reason decided to read the comments… this is what i found
DickieEyeBall: What slap in the face to the A’s that invested their time and money to help develop this kid to achieve on the field. He just NOW realized he wanted to be a child molester errrrrr priest?
Religion = opiate of the masses.
Another person wrote this
jayhawk77stl: baseball needs more selfless acts like this in baseball~ the guy could of been a superstar, def would of made the majors at some point, and made some really really really good money! But he chose to go help people live better lives~ If it were me, I wouldn’t of been able to be that giving… NO WAY! I would party like I was tiger woods~ My way is more fun, but his is more rewarding in the eyes of god~
and he got this response from somebody else
d rokko: @jayhawk77stl
What are you talking about? Really?!? Quit trying to impress your mom by writing a featured comment.
And as far as helping other people; helping them believe in magic or what? You make me sick. Sick I tell you.
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta love internet comments
The lowest form of mammalian communication
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I honestly cannot stop laughing at what you just wrote
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
I believe that deserves the double facepalm
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
...

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Jan 22, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
YAY
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Tangential thought
Thinking about Riker makes me realize that if Jimmy grows Riker facial hair I’d totally want him to come back.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
maybe boog could do Patrick Stewart Impressions
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't put it past him.
He should adjust the bottom of his jersey during his ABs
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Jan 22, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm pretty sure Picard didn't lick his shoulder, though.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I would, however, pay to see Patrick Stewart play Boog in his biopic.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
A friend of a friend used to date patrick stewart
I believe she was 25 at the time and he’s pushing 70, I think. I believe he dumped her for a younger model. That guy likes them young, though I suppose, in his shoes, many would….
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
wait, he's not gay?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
He's British, not gay.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
^continued from OT thread.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i could have sworn he was gay
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
You are thinking of Sir Ian McKellan (Gandalf in LOTR)
I’d guess. Either him or John Hurt.
Hmmm. I’m not even sure John Hurt is, actually…
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 25, 2010 8:19 AM EST up reply actions
no, captain jean luc picard
i swear 10 years ago it was big news he was gay
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
(singing): "Is he gay? or European?"
sorry, it just sprang into my head. Too much time spent with my theatre major daughter I guess.
by ArkansasTravs on Jan 22, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
that's the one!
I knew I’d heard it before, and couldn’t place it.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
should i now pretend to be offended
for gays and/or europeans and create artificial drama like yesterday?
I'm not going to bother explaining the irony
or, like, quote artificial suicide statistics or something.
but I will link to the musical!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
That depends
on whether Jimmy has a supply of Just For Men handy.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Ankiel saga continues
good luck hitting AL pitching Ank… I will probably pay more attention to the Royals now than I would have, just to see what Rick or Dick is going to do. at the very least he is very entertaining to watch on defense, and I will always have some anticipation at seeing something close to those 2 throws in Colorado. and of course it will be interesting to see if pitchers have truly figured out how to pitch to him and reduce him to a .230 hitter, or was last year an injury fluke and he’s more like the Ank of ’07 and ’08. hard to say….
and goodbye Jo-El, your pinata-ness will not be missed, but your Christy Mathewson impersonation will be! although, Brad Penny should be about equal or better than what I would expect from Pineiro in 2010. I hope the AL doesn’t bust the pinata too bad.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 22, 2010 2:37 PM EST reply actions
Am I the only one who doesn't want Edmonds to come back to the Cards?
In theory, he’d be a good 4th OF/backup 1B/PH, but I’m afraid TLR would not use him that way. I fear that Jimmy would get far too many PA, and would ultimately be a detriment to the team.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
go sit in the corner and think about what you've just said
that’s assuming Edmond’s body could handle too many PA’s.
(especially after diving for grounders at 3B)
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I don't think TLR would do that.
I know that sounds ridiculous to say, based on his track record, but I think we have to remember that a lot of the weird shit La Russa did was at a time when our OF was Ludwick, a rookie, Ankiel and Duncan, and Thurston and Barden were our 3B options. It seemed to me that after we got DeRosa and Holliday and Duncan was gone, TLR was a lot more consistent with his lineups.
I have confidence that he would put Jimmy solely in situations where he could succeed.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
I don't either
we need to see if some of these minor league prospects can be the 4th outfielder
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 22, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
they'll have their time
bring on Jimmy
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
I'd rather see him go to the yanks or somewhere where he can hit a lot of home runs
and not have to police the outfield much
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 22, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Give him coach money
Sit him on the bench, let him steal pitch signs, mug for the camera (keeps it off McGwire), and teach Rasmus how to climb walls and bring back 420’ home runs.
For Jimmy's sake
yes, yes, a million times, yes.
I would love to see Jimmy help hif HOF case by putting up another 160ish hits and 20-30 HRs before he hangs up his cleats (again).
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jan 22, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
yup
that’s my feeling, if he plays at a smaller stadium, he can add to his home run totals and help his HOF case considerably. I don’t think that will happen in StL, and we don’t really need him either
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 22, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
I think your assessment is a bit pessimistic.
I am now going to throw out three examples of TLR maximizing the value of his bench guys: Ozzie Smith in his final year, Aaron Miles (just ask the Cubs), and So Taguchi (just ask the Phils). He seems to be pretty good about putting his bench players in positions to succeed.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
That's my point
I’m afraid TLR wouldn’t view Jimmy as a “bench player.” I don’t think he would take too many PAs away from Holliday, but I’m afraid he would take too many away from Colby and Luddy. Colby should be our full-time CF in 2010, and I’m afraid having Jimmy around would compromise that.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 22, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
TLR's uses his bench.
It’s well-documented. He believes it keeps his starters fresh and keeps the back-ups sharp. TLR is going to give a fourth outfielder hundreds of PAs this season. So got 424, 361, and 340 PAs in ‘05, ’06, and ’07. John Mabry got 274 and 275 PAs in his two seasons in St. Louis. Speez got 321 PAs in ’06 and 257 PAs in ’07. Eduardo Perez got 177 PAs in ’02. That’s just a cursory search of the players whose names come to mind. Colby and Ludwick will be full-time OFers, as much as non-elite players are every “full-time” players for TLR. He will give them rests and with their injury histories, that might not be terrible. Our fourth outfielder will probably get between 200 and 400 PAs in 2010, whether it’s Edmonds or someone else. I don’t think it matters much who it is at this point.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I think Craig would be the best 4th outfielder
by vivaelpujols on Jan 22, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Or Gabe Gross (who's actually prettty damn good)
by vivaelpujols on Jan 22, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Gross was about as valuable as Edmonds in 2009....
just sayin’. I like him but I think both guys would provide marginal value, the way our team is currently set-up. I’ll go with JEd for the memories!
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Gabe Gross was as good as Edmonds in 09
Better in 08, and hasn’t missed a full year! I’d go with Gross.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 23, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
me too
Mather might work himself back into the equation too
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 22, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
I agree.
I’d rather have Craig on the bench than Edmonds, but I also don’t know that they are mutually exclusive bench pieces. Edmonds could play the role of ’06 So Taguchi with Craig playing the role of ’06 Scott Spezio. Or, so I tell myself as I wax nostalgic.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Edmonds being left handed helps
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
i don't think it's a particularly good idea
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 23, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
More Mac Mess
This whole thing is old…He gets burned for years for being silent, now being burned for the truth…
Jenkins, did’t he have a drug problem? isn’t it the same thing? No fergie didnt pitch better but abusing a substance all the same. Seems a bit hypocritical.
Timmmm EEE had a good take that yes Mac could have been more clear, but NO ONE expected him to say all he did about the records, and that he didnt have to go that far.
Now this trainer comes out, who apparently either wasnt interviewed for the witch hunt when that report came out, or lied..and was silent during all of cansecos claims..
It’s gonna be a long spring…
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
also one of the Busches slammed Big Mac
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why the hell does he have to make a statement?
he himself’s miraculously not a cheater for making evidence disappear..
DRUGS OUR BAD!
while he sips on his beer
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder why he had that published on KMOX's website
instead of as an opinion on one of the newpaper websites?
oh yeah, the comments would have made him look like a hypocritical POS
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
the media is just about all sensationalism
so as long as they make up some controversy, they will make money. I think most people are lying to themselves if they think that McGwire is a big deal, he’s just another player.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 22, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
you know what i can't figure out.. when i heard the news my response was
Yeah… and? I don’t understand what the big deal is or why he is any different than the other guys who juiced. Hell, Palmeiro LIED to congress and then tested positive
If you are going to suck, you might as well try to kick (butt), like, Jesus Lizard, they suck, but they kick (butt)-Beavis
by FredbirdisaDork on Jan 22, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
yeah and this just proves how bad the mitchell report was
considering they interviewed all these former coaches and trainers and players that were around mac and none agreed with Jose…thats why I’m mad this trainer came out now…Thats a good point about Raffy..noone is saying anythign about him, or Clemens anymore…I think we just need to move on..why all the mud slinging? It accomplishes nothing
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
it's weird to see Mcgwire become the fall guy for this
when there are many more far more deserving people for that role. it just shows how dumb the mainstream media is
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 22, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
I guarantee you
that if Barry Bonds came out and admitted steroid use, he’d be getting nowhere near the treatment McGwire’s been getting.
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you mean
this treatment?
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Jan 22, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
oh
I’m sure that he wouldn’t have a walk in the park either
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 22, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
You are wrong.
Bonds got worse, much worse, and he hasn’t ever tested positive or admitted as much (although I accept that he’s just as guilty as big mac).
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Way more evidence though that he did take steroids though
Their really was nothing on Big Mac expect speculation.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
All of the MLB clubs colluded against Bonds and drove him from baseball.*
* May or may not be true but it sure seemed at the time and still seems to be the case today.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
actually Bud ordered the teams not to sign him
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
This blog is pretty good.
I’ve read it a few times and they have some good thoughts.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
agreed x2
For a Cubs fan to be bashing a former Cardinals owner is something I thought I’d never see. I’m glad that this person agrees that this should stop and that Busch was way out of line.
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good read
great honesty by lee and yount.
but the anti-sanctimonious cries are starting to sound sanctimonious
since I deferred my student loans for too long
now they take my tax returns, which really f’ing sucks! no vacations for me
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 22, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
i almost earned that the hard way too. The student loan folks are relentless.
I eventually went back to school so they allowed me to re-consolidate instead of defaulting.
I got out just in time
to lock in 3% interest (don’t remember the exact number 3.36 or something like that), so my student loans have been reasonable…now when I go back this summer, that’s a different story…
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
i did that until Sallie Mae bought the company i redid my rates with
And my payments went up significantly
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
I guess I lucked out
only 17 more years of payments!
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
but what if my company IS Salie Mae?
now I have to go see who takes money out of my checking every month…
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Contreras to Phils
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wheww dodged that bullet.
as a person who wacthes the sox regularly, i wanted nothing to do with that guy. He has a very inconsistent, unrepeatable motion. I can’t believe Dunc really had any interest in him.
I couldn't stand him either
Happy to see him go elsewhere.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
+1
Plus, With every hole plugged by another team. The closer we get to Smoltz. I am really curious where Bedard is going to end up. I have had zero info about him
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Bedard's overrated
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yeah that guy
sucked in SEA before he got hurt
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
Not exactly the model of health
But I like his upside
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
Plus, he is a border line Type A
So if he had a good year I would think you could get some draft picks for him
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
he is not likely to pitch enough to increase his value
or else he’d have attracted a BIT more attention this offseason
That is not true
You don’t lose value if you are on the DL. He is definitely close enough to be a Type A
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
you do
but you have to be on the DL for a long time
i know glaus slipped a lot because of all his time on the DL
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
But at the end of the 2009 season he was not far off
In the end it comes back to his health which sounds questionable. He is probably better off coming back mid season to which ever team needs him
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
he was type a
at the beginning of the season. he wasn’t even type b by the end
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Are you talking aboug Glaus or Bedard?
Regardless they are both Type B’s that injury questions that would of gotten more in arbitration than on the free agent market. Hence the reason they were not offered arbitration
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
I'm happy too
I never really understood how he was highly regarded. He was OK, just OK, with Chicago and Colorado. Not really much to write home about.
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OK is pretty good for like $3m
we’re paying Lohse $40m over 4 years to be OK. I still don’t see how/why you can’t see that we can’t sign superstars for every position. It’s just not possible.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think I have ever seen so many reced posts in one thread before
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 4:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
you're forgetting the one thread that's all green
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
yeah that thread had an asterisk with it
Damn cheaters ruining VEB
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
OCD is now cheating?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I was drinking some loaded apple cider that weekend
I am sorry for my actions that weekend. I hope you all have it in your heart to forgive me. I really was only doing it for the taste, I had no idea it would have an affect on my rec’ing abilities.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 22, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and yet you all missed what was the quite possibly the best
TWSS variation ever.
At least I hope you missed it, otherwise there is a word for people like you.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
i'm glad Dick's gone. it's long passed time all parties moved on
what once was a promising relationship that we all thought would last forever. quickly became a nightmare that no one had the guts to walk away from. it’s for the best the relationship is finally over.
fair thee well Dick. i’ll do my best to only remember the good times. because when they were good, they were really fucking good.
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
rec
because you beat me to it
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
as soon as the loan goes through
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
i feel like i have made this exact joke against you before
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
you've made it a few times
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
needs moar green.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 22, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
on a minor league contract
For sure. He needs to work on his defense and 3B maybe try to see if he can play OF also. Cause he can’t play 2B
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
MiL deal and an NRI
there’s tony’s competition for freese. and it won’t need to be a veteran that tony feels the need to play over freese. he can also play like 6 positions!
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
he is actually quite similar to Allen Craig in a lot of ways
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
but looking at his splits
it would make sense that he’s a switch hitter
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
what?
there’s basically no platoon split among colby’s MiL numbers
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
i was just saying
that it wouldn’t make sense for a RH batter to hit RHPs that much better than LHPs
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
what's your point?
i think its pretty clear that he’s the definition of an outlier
his career OPS vs RHP is 75 points than vs LHP
not exactly the 224 points for guzman
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Well I wasn't really addressing Guzman anymore
because now I think it’s pretty clear he’s a switch hitter, I was addressing this
i was just saying
that it wouldn’t make sense for a RH batter to hit RHPs that much better than LHPs
Just listed the first person that came to mind. Not that I don’t agree with the status quo.
"that much better"
in this context is defined as .224 points better
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
that was just cause he hit only RH in the MLB
He is a switch hitter
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
if you don't believe me google
Jesus Guzman switch hittter
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
anyone know how claiming him works
since we’re not in season, we can’t exactly go worst to first
and if we claim him, does he have to go on the 40-man?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I dunno
Which is worse, losing a fairly low-value player named Jesus (Giants), or losing a fairly high-value player to Jesus (A’s)?
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
I don't care what they may say
Guzman is just all right
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I just burned through my third book in 2 weeks (around 1600 pages total)
and I don’t want to start one of the Stephen King books I haven’t read given that I just finished The Dark Tower. Anyone have any suggestions for authors in SciFi or Fantasy genre for me to pick up? I have 300 books sitting on my shelves (after giving away 80 a few weeks ago) and don’t feel like re-reading any right now.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
My wife took like, a two year hiatus from that book and eventually went back and finished it.
I was impressed that she stuck with it after all that time.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I think Jim Gaffigan's bit on books is pretty close to how I feel
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 22, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
I recommend the Wheel of Time
However, it is 800 pages per paperback in a 13 book series.
It’s entertaining anyway, if you like Lord of the Rings, you will like this.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
no offense
i heard the first 4 were good but the writer was writing to write tons of words to sell books for money
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
That's a common criticism
but it’s not one I’ve ever agreed with. Some of his novels are transitional in nature and lack climatic battle scenes which is usually what leads to that criticism.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
I would disagree
The Author just let the scope of what he was trying to write get away from him He had a whole world built and history written for that world but could only give out snippets
...was that the series where the guy died before he could finish it?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Brandon Sanderson is writing the last three novels of the series
the first of those three, A Memory of Light, is out in hardback but I haven’t bought it yet.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
I've read all of those about 4 times now
Good books, not ready to commit to reading that series again though.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
Ahh, I assumed as much, but was offering
just in case you hadn’t read them :).
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
I just flew through the series
The Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe
The Book of the New Sun is a novel written in four parts. It is written in first person by a man named Severian. His profession is torturer and the books chronicle his rise to power as ruler of the world. The world is our world, but set in a distant future where the sun has begun to cool and dim. The books are rare in the fantasy genre in that they have invited serious analysis and literary criticism. The Book of the New Sun starts with a killer premise and more than delivers. I came to the series only recently and count it as one of the greatest reads I have ever had, fantasy or no. It is a more challenging work than most “wizards and knights” fantasy, but oh so worth it.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
I tried to read another one of his novels and hated it.
I’ll give that one a look though.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
It can be kind of complicated to follow
He literally makes up a lot of his own words. But it flows nicely. It actually seems something red baron would like.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
Also, if you like books that are more of a quick read
One of my absolute favorites is based on Magic the Gathering
Arena by William R. Forstchen
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
I just started reading 'pattern recognition' by william gibson
also, I’m reading ‘we can build you’ by philip k dick, weird story about selling automatons. Next book I want to finish is ‘a game of thrones’. I started reading it a couple of years ago but never go to finish it because I lost the book on the train. if you haven’t read any harlan ellison, ‘deathbird stories’ is crazy awesome. you’ve probably read ‘time machine’ but that’s a must read for sci-fi fans
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 22, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Game of Thrones is the next book I want to read
I am just waiting for it to come in at the Library. Speaking of, Do you guys buy books or just get them from the library?
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 22, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
buy
used or new… I never return anything on time or go to the library that much
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 23, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
well with my library system
You can renew books online so it makes it much easier. Plus, I am a very fast reader. I can finish most books in 2 or 3 days.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 23, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
ah
I don’t read very much compared to how much I used to. I have plenty of books to finish, and like 5 other new ones after xmas gifts.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 23, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
DON'T DO IT
if you read game of thrones you are asking George R.R. Martin to jerk you around while he takes six years to release the next installment. I this guy wrote the Harry Potter series he would be on book four about now. That said the saga of fire and ice is some of the best fiction written in the last 10 years
You could also try Ender's Game
It’s a fairly notable book, so I wouldn’t be surprised if you read it, but the other books branching off of it aren’t bad either.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Enders Game is my favorite book of all time
I like the whole series
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 23, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
Awesome book
I was 20 pages from the end and still had no idea how the hell he was going to wrap it up in 20 pages. I figured I had a misprint.
Read Armor
by John Steakley I buy a copy re-read it and give it away every couple of years best Sci-Fi ever
I've heard lots of people didn't like the rest of the series
My sister loves it. She claims to be the only person in the world who actually likes “Xenocide”. I wouldn’t know, I never read anything but Ender’s Game. Great book though.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
"speaker for the dead" is the best book Card has written
but it is hard to really consider it a sequel to Ender’s Game. It stands on it’s own pretty well, with just references to the (now distant) past. I thought Xenocide was decent, as well.
The recent return to the series was a pretty fantastic idea, and he’s done pretty well with it, as well. if you’re going to read the “series”, I’d go “ender’s game”, then the new round of post-battle school books, then speaker/xenocide/children etc.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
Cross posted from earlier in the thread:
Kim Stanley Robinson, Red Mars
Good hard science fiction.
"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"
"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."
A couple to read
Historical Fiction
The Archer’s Tale or the Richard Sharpe novels by Bernard Cornwell
Sci-Fi
Armor by John Steakley
Lucifer’s Hammer by Jerry Pournelle and Larry Niven
Fantasy
anything by Terry Prachett including Good Omens co-written by Neil Gaiman
Breakfast of Champions by Kurt Vonnegut
Iain M Banks
seriously. You’ll thank me!
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 25, 2010 8:21 AM EST up reply actions
More specifically
his Culture novels. I think Use Of Weapons and Excession are the best, although getting started with “Consider Phlebas” (first in the series) might be kinda good.
For a standalone brilliant SF read that doesn’t require any preamble, I really loved “Against A Dark Background”. He also did a book of short stories that I forget the name of, which is worth a look. Ah, State of The Art.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 25, 2010 8:24 AM EST up reply actions
so i tried my hand at this rhyming thing, and here's what happened
so there was a player named Rick
who became quite good with the stick
then he changed his name to Dick
and he lost all his powar right quick
now all his fans were sick
but the story doesn’t end here
off to KC went him & his career
where fans hoped his head would clear
but the SABR nerds did sneer
“he’ll never hit well. for the numbers doth tell,
he’s a fake, a phony, a one trick pony!
he can’t hit the heat! he can’t hit junk!
his career is now bunk!”
but the fans still had hope
for they knew he was no joke
when the game was on the line
he simply, fat out choked
and that made them sad
and some very, very mad
cause to the world he was a cad
but them, he just made them glad
for he could still jack some dongs
and make some girls drop their thongs
and that’s all that really mattered to the throngs
for they couldn’t bare the thought
that all their cheers went for naught
so they watched with their hearts and not with their eyes
for when it comes to Rick Ankiel, it’s really no surprise
don’t bring logic or reason to the table
because they don’t belong in this fable
fin
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 22, 2010 9:16 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
danka
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
that sound you just heard was LB throwing his computer through a wall
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
you really can rhyme
nice work!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 22, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
thanks dude
and 8 rec’s? wow thanks y’all. i didn’t think it was that rec worthy, i’m really surprised you all liked it.
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I had to un-rec it
we don’t want you to get a big head
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
thanks bro

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 23, 2010 2:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That is good stuff right there.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
i do what i can
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
The A's are one star-crossed organization:
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/1/22/1265301/grant-desme-leaving-baseball-for#storyjump
This was the mvp of the az fall league…
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
is it
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking
it was this guy.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
no P-Dub, noooo! we're not really getting the band back together!
Though, serious question — what about Russ Springer?
Oooh, I might fanshot that.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
Giada De Laurentiis' presence
on the food channel means that you don’t need to have the sound up in order to enjoy it
I am convinced
that the producers of her show have a cleavage quota. Every episode.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i'm convinced that show is evil
i mean – its great to look at it – but you know that Avatar depression that’s been reported on, where pathetic people are so transfixed by the beauty of the Avatar world that ours just seems unrelentingly depressing by comparison. Well…That’s the way I feel about that show. Don’t show me a world where extraordinarily gorgeous, petite, and full-breasted women wearing revealing tops are happily cooking in the kitchen all day, because when I get home I have to face my kitchen, where I’m quite certain none of that occurs….and then it depresses me – all alone – as I warm a hot pocket in a microwave from 1992.
by mattyp on Jan 23, 2010 8:23 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Is the Hot Pocket or microwave from 1992?
Or both?
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 23, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
recerific
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
another note from the future... Joel says farewell!
liveblog from 101 radio… I’m sure it’s online somewhere, but I’m lazy.
highlight: he won the fantasy football league.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

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