down the stretch
by tom s. on Jan 2, 2010 7:00 AM EST
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i write to you from the distant past (thursday morning) as i have just realized that, if i am traveling all weekend, posting on saturday will be a difficulty.
as such, if new information has arisen in the last two days, i will have no knowledge of it at the time of this writing.
in the event we sign matt holiday on Friday, i for one welcome our high 5-figure/low 6-figure, 5/6/7/8 year contractual encumbrance/superstar left fielder overlord, for whom we have just over/underpaid. john mozeliak should be praised/publicly drawn and quartered.
what is news to me as i write to you, cardinal fans of the future with your flying cars and space clothing and meals in pill form, is that the cubs have just signed marlon byrd to a three (3!) year contract. i $15m isn't a ridiculous sum for his services, though i doubt he makes sense as a CF in 2012 or that he will post more than an average player's value next year.
the money suggests an average value for byrd of 1.5 wins a year. that seems like a decent guess at his value going forward, especially as he ages. at that money, byrd is a pretty decent if uninspiring signing. in the current market, after missing out on cameron (and it's hard not to look at mike cameron going to boston for comparable money for two years but likely to provide FAR more value and not see a missed opportunity for chicago), this was about as well as they were going to do. i still doubt that this makes them a better club than the one with bradley (for all his warts) and harden on it; erik had a good post over at play a hard nine which ranked the cubs (iirc, with byrd on the squad) as an 84-win team.
my big regret is that this takes the cubs out of candidacy for full-on comedy in CF for 2010 by putting rick ankiel or >scoff< scott podsednik full time in the role, although i feel enough for rick ankiel to know that a year in wrigley could really ruin him as a person. putting a struggling ankiel in a key offensive and defensive position in front of one of the toughest baseball audiences in the nation north america (to keep with our canada-love theme from last week) seems like a terrible plan for a fragile persona like ankiel. ankiel still seems likely to be a pirate in april, which is probably best for everybody.
all in all, nothing has happened in the NL central so far this off-season that should strike fear in anybody's heart. a lot of overpaying for middling relievers, the comical bradley-for-silva deal, the overpay for randy wolf, the appalling decision to let mike cameron go in favor of trading jj hardy for gomez, the inability (so far) of the reds to shed their aging starters' salaries, the inscrutable ability of the reds to nevertheless extend scott rolen . . . . on balance, i would say the moves made by the rest of the division have made the division worse, not better. that doesn't mean the season is a cake walk for the cards, with or without holliday. we are always a bad injury or two from sinking the ship, but you have to like our chances, especially if we land holliday.
tell us what you think in the poll.
take heart in the new year, friends. the solstice has passed us by, which means the days are getting longer. not only are we seeing more sun, but we are closer to pitchers and catchers reporting in 2010 than we are to the last game of the 2009 world series. it's still some time away but, while you've been taking exams or buying gifts or nursing a new year's hangover, we've actually made it much of the way to new baseball.
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I apologize for the short post. Enjoy the New Year.
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well played.
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by rocKStark5 on Jan 2, 2010 8:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Division does seem worse or at least not better
I wonder how much of Mo’s decisions are based on the division comparables and how much on getting better than Phillies/Dodgers? Last summer, it felt to me that the Cards took a big flyer on getting to the world series, predicated most likely on the fact that Carp was having a rare healthy run.
With each team in the division seemingly looking worse (except maybe the Reds), letting Holliday go and taking draft choices would not be a bad move. I’m ok with saving $100 million and ekeing out a divisional championship. I Still think we are odds-on favorite with Allen Craig or some facsimile in LF.
Signing holliday seems more about trying to compete with Phillies and satisfying Albert — both good things. I’d say Mo is in a good spot and as long as he doesn’t get Boras’d, we’ll be fine.
Just win
by The Duke on Jan 2, 2010 8:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand the love for a Allen Craig/ some right handed killer platoon
it would be different if Craig could hit RHP better, but to say we throw someone in to takes a majority of the at bats seems ridiculous. Plus I have no idea what type of fielder Craig is in LF, I assume below average.
If anyone is going to take the at-bats in a platoon I would hope it’s someone like Randy Winn who would be able to perform well enough if Craig flounders against major league hitting while still being cheap enough to pick up a veteran like smoltz for a year.
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by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 9:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't love Craig
But I think he will be league average especially in a platoon of some sort and he’ll be cheap. I think for the money, he could be a good alternative, and quite frankly it won’t be that hard to find a replacement league average player if he craps out. Of course if you are also playing Mr Freeze as a rookie that may be a lot of rookie at bats to bet the farm on and it will be a lot harder to find a competent 3B if Freeze can’t handle it as we saw last year.
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by The Duke on Jan 2, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I Do Like....
..Craig Allen Allen Craig, whatever, but he still project to me as a 4th outfielder. If Joey Bombs is Healthy, and we don’t land Holliday, I’d just as soon seen Mather in Left. But yer right, it would be tough to start 2 rooks in the field, including 1 with a new position. Tasyt should be able to hold down 3rd, but I see Crai…well, you know who, as our next Ankiel/4th OF, only much less defensive prowess but hopefully moar dingers.
:=8)
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by The MooCow on Jan 2, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh Joey Bombs.
I has a sad. stupid wrist.
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by Yadi2Second on Jan 2, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
tastee freese
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by sportsman on Jan 2, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
one nice option is eric hinske
as he’s played LF (well) and 3B (kinda poorly) in his career – sort of “double insurance” against either Craig or Freese being awful.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 2, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm more and more interested in Floppy for this sort of a rotation as well.
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by hazel on Jan 2, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
depends on cost and whether we get Holliday, obviously
but yeah, my preference (currently) for a non-Holliday world would be Cust as a platoon/bench bat in LF, Floppy to do the IF thang, Smoltz or Sheets as 5th starter, and Calero for the pen.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 3, 2010 5:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure I understand this
if craig is platooned he won’t have to hit RHP (was that a typo?) – he’s a right-handed hitter. Also, Randy Winn makes zero sense as a platoon player as he’s a switch-hitter who hits reasonably from both sides (which is a decent chunk of his value). So, I just don’t understand what you’re asking, really.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 2, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think
he’s just arguing against craig as the short side of the platoon
which i might agree with as he’s hit righties reasonably well throughout his career. at least his platoons splits are no skip schumaker
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's basically what I was trying to say.
And if there were such a platoon I would sign Winn to bat against RHP ( he has shown in his career to do better against right handed pitching) because it would makes no sense to platoon Craig just for the hell of it when he has shown he can crush LHP and RHP. at least with winn we would have a fall-back option on a guy with plus defense.
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by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he has a pretty regular platoon split in the minors
(Craig, that is). Given that he’s projected to be a bit above-average with the bat in the majors, you’d have to assume that (if he continues his platoon split, which basically 90% of hitters do; in the case of some guys, like Colby, splits become more pronounced in the majors) he’ll be a below-average hitter of RHP. A below-average hitter who is probably only average in LF isn’t very valuable. We might as well add a cheap lefty who’ll be a better hitter.
If Craig was a better hitter overall (which I think he might become in a year or two) he becomes more viable against righties; however, my best guess would be he’ll be a little over replacement-level purely as a hitter of RHP straight away.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 2, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ps
i really like winn too. Probably not th best fit for us but i think he’ll be a really great pick-up for someone.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 2, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
personally, I really like the Byrd signing
he’s a pretty underrated player with a lot of strings to his bow – he’s got a very competent glove (probably average-ish in CF), he seems to have developed a sniff of power in his early 30s, and he’s always been a good contact guy.
I’m not sure he’s got the greatest skillset in terms of ageing, and there’ll always be a question about how he went from a really bad hitter in Phillie to a consistently above-average one in Arlington (and his 20 HR season last year is definitely a mirage), but I’d say he’s a 2-win player at the very bare minimum, and all the projection systems so far published seem to rate him as that (in the 2.5 win range).
I assumed he’d get closer to $10m and I honestly think that he’s a player of comparable value, right now, to Milton Bradley (Bradley’s got higher ceiling but has been less consistent in recent seasons and there’s the attitude issue).
I think this is a bargain for Chicago and a decent coup for Hendry, personally. Until (unless?) we sign Holliday and/or spend our last $20m sensibly, I’d say we’re pretty comparable with them, in terms of talent.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 2, 2010 8:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
But he's still paying Silva
So, if you have to get Bradley’s production by paying Silva and Byrd, I think they are worse off. By all accounts I’ve seen Silva is likely to be DFA’d this year.
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by The Duke on Jan 2, 2010 8:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's not a bad signing
and even though i doubt they are going to end up wanting him for 3 years, i doubt 5 mil is really going to break them in his third year
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Byrd WIl Be Useful...
which is moore than cud be said for El Gordo (Silva). I just love the fact that the Cubs are saddled with both Gordo’s and Soriano’s fat, bloated cowtracts. I expect .500 seasons from them for the next 3-4 years, at best.
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:=8O
by The MooCow on Jan 2, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
are gordo and pork chop related>
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by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i expect the Cubs to be our main competition this next year
everyone is way over-reacting to a season in which EVERYTHING went wrong, just as we all over-reacted after a season where EVERYTHING went right for them (2008) and thought we had no chance last year. I think the reality is that they’re not much weaker than we are right now, if at all. Their 4th and 5th starters are arguably stronger, their OF is OK, their bullpen is similarly bad, their infield is probably better than ours with the exception of the fact that we have the best player on the planet at first base. We’re just a Pujols boo-boo away from being quite a bit worse than the cubs in 2010, I think.
The only thing that makes us some way ahead of them is that we’ve still got ~$20m to spend on free agents and may sign Matt Holliday – IMO that makes us a well-above .500 team, whereas I think the Cubs are slightly-above .500 right now.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 2, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with this assessment, for the most part
I think it would be unwise to overlook the Cubs in 2010…their team really fell apart last year and a bounceback campaign from Soriano or Soto or Ramirez or all three makes them dangerous.
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by mojowo11 on Jan 2, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, they're no joke
but cubs on paper ’09 > cubs on paper ’10
they basically added byrd and subtracted johnson, bradley and harden. all quality contributors
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the "experts" will pick them again as central champs
but they are one year older, slower & worser than they were in 09. look for them to compete hard for 5th-3rd place
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by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ramirez may be healthy all year this time
Maybe they won’t have an awful closer
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 2, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they have marmol
the wheels on that train wreck will fall off eventually.
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by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he'll probably get hurt from being used too much
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 2, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Luckily
Fat Z will be there to anchor the clubhouse… make sure everyone keeps a sound head and positive attitude.
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by ducttape16 on Jan 3, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How'd he do?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
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by Yadi2Second on Jan 3, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
until he tackles the gatorade cooler and goes on the disabled list
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 3, 2010 2:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
He caught the gatorade cooler and Mrs. Z doing the nasty one time
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by jd is legend on Jan 3, 2010 2:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ever since then, the smell of lemon-lime flavoring has made him cry uncontrollably.
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
by tom s. on Jan 3, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my feeling is that they brought ramirez back too early
and he may have more shoulder issues. just a hunch though
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 2, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i believe he's now their Rolen
and we all know how that story goes
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by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Byrd projects to give them more than Johnson & Bradley did
so I’d say that’s, at best, a wash.
Losing Harden hurts, of course, but their 5th starter is liable to be above replacement-level. At the moment, unless they shit the bed and use Carlos Silva as a starter (ugh), Dumpster, Z, Lilly, Gorzellanny & Wells (with Marshall as 6th starter) looks similarly good to Harden, Dumpster, Z, Lilly & Marshall (last year’s fearless five during January).
Gorzellanny and Wells both have a shot at being league average or better – if they do that, their rotation is looking very good, despite not having a bona-fide ace.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 3, 2010 5:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For what it's worth
The deal is backloaded:
2010: $3M
2011: $5.5M
2012: $6.5M
So he’ll actually be quite cheap this year and a bit more expensive in his third year.
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by mojowo11 on Jan 2, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he paid exactly what I would deem as a fair contract.
It’s not any sort of albatross, especially with the financial resources that the Cubs have, and as you said, he is projected to be productive, at least in the immediate future. That is not to say I would wish the Cardinals to sign Marlon Byrd to this contract
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by jacksonian on Jan 2, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
An albatross, no.
But a fish-bird nonetheless.
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Jan 3, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if we had no CF for the foreseeable future
this is exactly the sort of deal I’d like to see – a guy who’s likely to be league average or so over the course of the deal, signed for three years.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 3, 2010 5:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love the third paragraph in this article.
rec’d
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by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 8:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
This was the best thing I've heard so far this year!!!
“the solstice has passed us by, which means the days are getting longer. not only are we seeing more sun, but we are closer to pitchers and catchers reporting in 2010 than we are to the last game of the 2009 world series”.
1. Fuck the winter.
2. Hot girls literally vanish during the winter (probably because they are far more susceptible to SAD)
3. “People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.” – Rogers Hornsby
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Jan 2, 2010 9:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
1. Fuck the winter.
Albertofstan.
F* Yeah!
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jan 2, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the other paragraphs as well
in the spirit of hot stove season, i’d like to offer automatic rec’s for all tom s. entries for the next 8 years in exchange for his agreement not to fade into hollywood obscurity during that time.
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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jan 2, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Concerning the poll, How much of a threat could the reds be next year?
I could imagine a full season of Votto+Rolen+Volquez would help alot with the 78-84 finish.
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by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 9:26 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
never mind volquez he's out until august.
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by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 9:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"Nevermind the Volquez...
…Here’s the Red’s Pitchers"…
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Jan 2, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
an-REC-chy in the moo-k?
forget it. you’re better at this than me.
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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jan 2, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cincinnati is not a team I'll worry about...
…until they get consistently good performance out of their rotation. Harang has fallen apart, Volquez is out, and Homer Bailey is running out of time to be in the “Well, he’s still young!” camp. You could do a lot worse than Arroyo, but he’s hardly ace material or anything like that.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 2, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like harang a whole lot more than Arroyo though
maybe you mixed them up.
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by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, I didn't
Harang has historically been a much better pitcher, but he’s recently regressed into Arroyo. Plus, he’s had more injury issues than Arroyo, who has thrown 200 innings each of the past five seasons. Arroyo isn’t much more than a back end of the rotation guy and is fine at that role, hence the reason why I said “You could do a lot worse than Arroyo.” Harang is a once-excellent pitcher who has been hampered by injury the past two seasons and hence his performance has suffered. That’s basically what I was trying to say… that I’m not worried about Cincinnati unless that rotation performs better, that is if Harang and Volquez’s injury issues go away and Cueto and Bailey can live up to their promise.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 2, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
harang was still better than arroyo last year
I don’t care how many innings Arroyo threw, Harang is more likely to have a better season than arroyo next year. A healthy Harang is a 4-5 WAR pitcher.
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by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, you could say that Cincinnati will be a team suffering from a....
Harangover. Huh? Huh? Amirite?
by mattyp on Jan 2, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
HEY OH
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
instantrimshot.com
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
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by Taskmaster on Jan 2, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
YEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 3, 2010 5:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think, if anything
people are OVER-rating the Reds’ chances. I just don’t see them being a factor next year unless us, the cubs AND the brewers all under-perform. They might see a .500 record, which I suppose means they COULD see 85-ish wins with a bit of luck, but I really think that us, the Cubs or the Brewers are likely to be in the 90-win range. If we add Holliday, we’re probably a true-talent 90+ win team.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 2, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the reds are just a starter and a SS away from competing seriously.
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by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they have one outfielder who is vaguely usefully above replacement level (Bruce), and he hasn't done much yet
(although Dickerson isn’t too bad, actually), their bullpen’s so-so outside of their closer, and their rotation just isn’t very good. Volquez is out, I can see a big bounceback for Harang, but Arroyo, Cueto and Bailey will be lucky to average out at 2 wins each. I just feel they’re pretty average everywhere. I guess you could argue a true-talent 81 win team has a shot in the NLC (and you’re right that another average starter and an average SS probably makes them as good as the brewers).
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 2, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bailey
as I recall, showed signs of vast improvement during September last year. He’ll still have to carry it over to next year (and throughout the year) but more hope is there for Cincinnati than has existed in the past. Bruce and others might be much healthier and improved. I know, Cincinnati is always the “surprise” team each year, but they could be better this year. (I’ll still believe it when I see it.)
by CRay on Jan 2, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2011 they'll be in contention.
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by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jocketty will trade Bruce, Votto and Volquez for Mark Mulder
don’t worry.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 3, 2010 5:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
that their offense is legit. Votto, Bruce, Rolen, Phillips is a solid core. And I think this may be Bruce’s breakout year. Year One he was inconsistent, Year two he gets hurt, I think year three he goes for 30 dongs.
You may run like Hayes, but you hit like shit.
by flipthebird on Jan 2, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe avg will be there too
nice fantasty draft pick-up
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by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Careful with the painkillers after a hangover too-
ibuprophen is the best one to go with.
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by hazel on Jan 2, 2010 9:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
unless you plan on drinking off a hangover (my preferred method)
ibuprofen + alcohol = ulcers and heartburn. Found that one out the hard way.
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by rocKStark5 on Jan 2, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
use the topical stuff?
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Jan 2, 2010 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Take two aleve right before you go to bed
Awesome
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 2, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
now will that conflict with the roofies/floories/rapies?
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Jan 2, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No
YOU take the aleve, but don’t offer any to him
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 2, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
perfect
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Aaaaaaaand
I just realized I said “him” instead of “her”. Freudian slip? Yikes
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 2, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Aw. How disappointing. I thought you were being subversive.
Now with extra feisty!
by spants on Jan 2, 2010 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe my advice was for the ladies
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 2, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it was funnier not knowing
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A couple of glasses of water and a couple of Tylenol
Before retiring has always worked well for me. The water really is the key.
by BCinVA on Jan 2, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yep, water, water, water.
works for me.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 2, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My method of choice...
I pound a bottle of Gatorade and as much water as I can hold in my stomach before passing out. I wake up clear headed and needing to take a serious leak.
by mynameistyler on Jan 2, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm a big fan of VH20, i found it's a lot better for me than Gatorade is
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mixing Tylenol and booze
is not the best thing you could do to your liver… granted if you’re routinely drinking heavily the condition of your liver is probably not high on you list of priorities…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Jan 3, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
shhh, it's the future
we don’t need livers in the future.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 3, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, let future gdm worry about heart & liver disease
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 3, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like water and excedrin best
didn’t need it this year for some reason, I guess I paced myself pretty well
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 2, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I see no way the Cardinals win the division in 2010
So far the Brewers and Cubs have yet to lose a game and the Cardinals have yet to win any. We’re all doomed I tell yell.
I have drank a lot of water in the past 24 hours and plan on continuing to do so.
by Evilfrog on Jan 2, 2010 9:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
you evil evil frog
you’re going to drink all that coffee without sharing.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But look at the loss column!!!!
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 2, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
a rec for the loss common
ohnoez
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 2, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would have been very unhappy to see Ank land in Chicago
not because it’s Chicago, but because it’s Ank. I’d really like to see him succeed somewhere, as long as it doesn’t lead to “somewhere” winning the division or the pennant.
by StanTheManFan on Jan 2, 2010 10:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
anywhere where there's pressure is a bad idea for Ank
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So, Pittsburgh it is, then, correct?
Or KC?
by BCinVA on Jan 2, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I assume if he goes to pittsburgh, he'll be traded of DFA by the end of the season.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ank can always hope
he gets promoted to Chicago mid season.
by ubeddie on Jan 2, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To me it seems like the whole NL got worst this year
The Cardinals got better through subtraction. We got rid of all our negative and below average value players. Now that I think about it has been a really slow off season. I bet their will be so many good deals on the free agent market at the end of years. What ever teams take advantage of them will be the teams that make the largest strides for the smallest dollars. The Kelly Johnsons of the world will be the difference next year. The AL seem and the Phillies seems to making all the signing/moves.
The NL Central is just getting sad. The Cubs have gotten worst this off season somehow. Byrd contract is not horrible but I am curious to see how he does back in the NL. He wasn’t that good until he got to Arlington. The Silvia deal was one of the best Christmas gifts I received. The Brewers needed Randy Wolf even if they had to over pay for him. The Cubs are about a 87 win team with Byrd about the same as us. Holliday is the difference between wining the NL Central and not.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 2, 2010 11:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
welcome to our new overlords from Washington DC?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 2, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I FOR ONE WELCOME OUR NEW OVERLORDS
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
87 wins before holliday?
because i think they are at least 90 wins with holliday
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Phillies got better
I think Roy Halladay is going to murder the AL East this year. Even in that bandbox. He could be challenging Albert for NL WAR MVP I think…
That said, the Dodgers have taken a step or two back, and the other teams in the NL Central (other than us) haven’t really taken any major steps. I guess Holliday makes us the 2nd best team in the NL, arguably…
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 2, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I have finally decided on my New Years resolution
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 2, 2010 11:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh, oh!
Crap. Just say no to 2009 memes!
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 2, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my pic would be perfect right now
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How would we feel about Ank back here as the 4th OF?
After we sign Holliday, I mean.
by BCinVA on Jan 2, 2010 11:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
my first thought is
why is it always Boras
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 2, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i always assumed boras would somehow trick Mo into signing a contract that has a very small print
that also includes Ank in the deal.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dude posted an OBP in the .200s for the season
and still hardly projects to be above .300 for the upcoming season. He has no pitch recognition whatsoever. Here’s a startling little fact: In 2009, his walk total equaled his K%, 26. Ugh. On the defensive side, but him down for a couple eye-popping diving catches that mask his poor jump and somewhat regular misjudging/misplaying balls. Besides, he would be an (likely) known quantity clogging up a spot that could be used to test the potential of an Allen Craig or what have you, and Tony might still be tempted to play him over Colby in center sometimes, thereby causing me extreme rage-induced high blood pressure. No thank you. I wish him success elsewhere
by mattyp on Jan 2, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No
If only to take away the temptation of actually starting him a lot from Tony La Russa. The guy has been figured out by the league… he can’t hit fastballs and he’ll chase all over the place (hey… that rhymed!) He’s a decent glove I suppose, but he really cannot hit. And, yet, TLR viewed him as a starter for much of the season and as a viable platoon option for Rasmus.
Ankiel’s time in St. Louis is at an end and I really hope Mo realizes that.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 2, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i would feel sad
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
actually
if TLR wasn’t the manager and wouldn’t hopelessly over-expose him, I’d be open to it. He’s the same sort of “rebound candidate”, buy-low guy that we’re always super-keen to sign from other teams. Of course, I’m assuming he signs for dirt cheap. Anything more than $1m makes no sense for us, but he might make sense at 1 year and $3-4m for someone else.
Ideally, Craig is the 4th OF and then we need someone right-handed who can play CF (Reed Johnson, please!). The concern with that is that it leaves a grand total of 2 left-handed hitters on the 25-man roster. The only other way to skin the roster that I can think of is to see if Tyler Greene can play CF (which I doubt, somehow). Otherwise, we just have to cross every appendage and hope Colby learns how to hit lefties.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 2, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
jon jay?
he’s gotta make the bigs eventually
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think we need a righty, really
Jay is a useful backup (and, if we sign Holliday, another LHH would be useful, as we’ll only have two), but Colby’s big issue last year was lefties and, whilst I’d be happy to give him the chance to figure it out, if he continues to struggle, he may need a righty to take some of his starts.
Having looked at Johnson’s stats the last few years, it looks like his defence in CF sucks, so he’s probably not the best option – if we’re going to have a sucky CF vs LHP we might as well move Ludwick there and give Craig a start or two in right. That offense will absolutely kick ass.
My other option was a guy called Norris Hopper who got canned by Cinicnatti last year – he’s not very good, has no power whatsoever, but has an excellent glove and gets on base OK against LHP. His other big advantage is that he’ll probably take a minor league deal so we could stash him in Memphis and call him up if Colby is struggling and needs some time off vs lefties. He has a major league OBP of .367 (.406 OBP vs LHP; unsustainable BABIP, but there’s a good chance he could slap-hit his way to Brendan-Ryan-esque numbers at least), and is above average at every OF position (by UZR) in about half a season. Very fast too. I’m pretty sure he’s a minor league free agent.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 3, 2010 5:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
colby will hit lefties, though
sooner or later
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I agree with those saying Don Tony would overutilize him
And I recognize his bat is not what we first thought it was going to be, but I thought he would mostlydo the 8th and 9th inning defensive replacement for Holliday. Also, he is a lefty bat and we don’t have many of those.
by BCinVA on Jan 2, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hopefully he won't run into any walls this year wherever he lands
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 2, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just say no, his career is just about over
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he's alive, folks!
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nope, he's still a figment of you all imagination
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well, at least we're hallucinating again
clemson was worried about you
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i told you all i was going to take a step back around the holidays
it’s always a very rough time of the year for me & this year was no different. i would have been even more a depressing mess than i normally am & a huge buzzkill to everyone’s joyous holiday cheer had i not forced myself to keep quiet. just because i’m miserable around the holidays does not give me the right to ruin them for anyone else. it’s best for everyone if i just go away & hide during them
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's okay
i hate the holidays, too
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's the thing, i don't hate them
bad things just have a tendency to happen around them & they turn into a big depressing mess. like death. if you’re related to me, wrap yourself in bubble wrap starting in november because there’s a very good chance you’re numbers gonna come up. i’ve had more relatives die around this time of year than any other time combined.
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have most relatives die around my birthday(week of)
since I was seven there’s been about 11 deaths the week of my birthday (four on it).
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Remind me not to be related to the two of you.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 2, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
damn dude
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think someone
just won that race to the bottom…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Jan 3, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what i don't understand
is how can mo/holliday be close enough that it’s inevitable that he signs, but still be a week away? i would think if they were essentially in agreement they couldn’t be more than a day away. and even if they are just at odds with terms but both accept that the end result is holliday in LF at busch, i don’t see how it could drag out more than a day of negotiations. do they have to work out the wording of the contract or what?
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 11:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they just want some time off.
Unlike the rest of us, Mo and Bo don’t live in their mothers’ basements.
ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss
by alberich on Jan 2, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can imagine Mo telling his mother about how mean Boras is.
“Mommy! He wants like 20 million a year!”
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
by Taskmaster on Jan 2, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gatorade
Drink some before bed and a bunch in the morning…. helps with the dehydration and the electrolyte imbalance.
by punditmoi on Jan 2, 2010 11:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
its got what plants crave
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 2, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sun?
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Electrolytes
The answer was “electrolytes”
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 2, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my guess was feces
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jan 2, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What about water?
“You mean… from the toilet?”
by mynameistyler on Jan 2, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That movie was awesome.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
by Taskmaster on Jan 2, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nothing hydrates better than water
Gatorade can lie, but it’s complete BS.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 12:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
actually gatorade just overstates its practicality
the average person won’t need electrolyte replenishment unless they’ve been exercising under extreme conditions for numerous hours. If you go out for a quick jog, skip the gatorade and go with water. However, part of the queasiness/shakiness/ligh-headedness associated with a hangover is caused by low blood sugar after a night of heavy drinking, so the carbs in Gatorade can help raise that level and alleviate those symptoms.
by mattyp on Jan 2, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but it's got what plants crave!
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Jan 2, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You beat me to it!
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Jan 2, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 2, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't get it
duh
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
is that a movie?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am glad that you are now bringing extra feisty!
although, I’m not sure how long you’ve had that sig heh
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 3, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yah, one of the best movies that came out in aughts
Mike Judge!
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 3, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how have i never heard of this?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 3, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
...it's really not all that great.
Not even for satire. Especially not for Mike Judge.
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Jan 3, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's more of a horror film if you ask me.
Now with extra feisty!
by spants on Jan 3, 2010 1:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose.
Luke Wilson being the smartest guy around is a terrifying prospect.
Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.
by EinFesteBusch on Jan 3, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't really like it either
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 3, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I really wanted to.
But thought it was terrible. Good plot, terrible execution.
by Mister Eff on Jan 3, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thought it was brilliant
woh, you like money too?
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 3, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's one of my favorite movies
on the other hand
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 3, 2010 2:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what do you like about it?
considering all i know about it is what imdb said, i looks like a mix of demolition man & futurama.
and now i’m craving some taco bell
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 3, 2010 2:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like that it is super funny
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 3, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But water tastes gross.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 2, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
really? i love water, it's so refreshing
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Really?!
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 2, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe, if you live in Cleveland
but here in the Rockies, it’s tastes like…water.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 2, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I live in St. Louis.
It has apparent;y been voted some of the best water in the country. I don’t like water. I don’t like bottled water, tap water. any water. Except frozen water. I like ice and really, really cold water. That’s the only time I drink it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 2, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i love water
when it’s mixed with citron and limes.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Jan 2, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I like flavored water.
But at restaurants I’d have to ask for like a plate of lemons and stick all of them in the water.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 2, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so sorry, CG
I just assumed you were in Ohio, what with all the Grady love. It is Grady, right?
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 2, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course it's Grady.
It’s okay people assumed that a lot. I understand because being an Indians fan not from Cleveland isn’t really normal because, well, they’re not that good.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 2, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they used to be though, and hopefully will be soon
this retched state needs them to be good. all this OSU overexposure has to stop
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh they're definitely on the right track.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 2, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So, apparently, you've got a thing for CFers?
Or just ones that effortlessly glide along, are in a certain age range, are relatively GQ-ish, etc? How do you feel about Mr. Edmonds?
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 2, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't find him attractive.
Is Colby GQ-ish? I thought most people thought he was funny looking.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 2, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, relative is
a relative term.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 2, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i always wanted to be like Hollywood
he’s just soo cool. he has that look & swagger about him that oozes confidence & superiority. he’s a good looking dude & i have the opinion that most women want to be with him & men want to be him. i said most not all. different strokes for different folks & all.
Albert, Carp & Adam fall into the same category as well. Colby’s got that young southern boy charm thing going on that can supersede defects any women perceives in his appearance. BOOG’s got that quirky hyperactive thing going on with the laid back SoCal boy thrown in that keep women guessing. there’s no better way to get a woman interested in you than to keep them guessing, and BOOG is a master of that. Yadda is just all man. he takes charge & he’s the boss & you & everyone else know it. you’re in good hands with Yadda & there’s no where else you’d rather be. that’s why women love him.
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you sure know a lot about the things that women like...
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
those who can do, those who can't, teach
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey now.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 2, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this only applies to the fellas
you’re still golden cgirly
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And those who can't teach,
teach gym.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 2, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and those who can't teach gym
teach gym poorly.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And those that can't do either
Administrate
by BCinVA on Jan 2, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 2, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
are you anemic?
Anemic people crave ice. Do you sit around and chew on ice a lot?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Jan 2, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
/scared
i f’in love ice
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're safe.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 2, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am borderline anemic, and I too love ice and very, very cold water.
Now with extra feisty!
by spants on Jan 2, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No.
It’s just the only kind of water I like.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 2, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the water in austin is great
i think like top 3 in the country according to something
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
From the places I've been
I’ve noticed that water taken from the surface doesn’t taste as good as that taken from an aquifer… But that could just be me.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Jan 3, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
VEB: I challenge you to have 500 comments by 2P.M.CST
are you up for it?
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 12:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
that'll please the signal:noise ratio lurker nazis who posted in azru's thread about the memes...
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 2, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how does one find that ratio
no idea heh
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 2, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's probably on fangraphs.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 3, 2010 5:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So the original Power Rangers is on ABC right now.
It’s just as awesome as I remember it as a kid.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Jan 2, 2010 12:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
hey wait a minute... robots don't age.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
firmware updates
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Jan 2, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think my first crush ever
was the pink power ranger.
by mattyp on Jan 2, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
never mind that was thwe other girl.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Yellow one died.
She was my favorite. Rocky was my power ranger crush.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 2, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wait a power ranger really died?
why didn’t someone tell me?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
f'in gdm
we had a thread about this… on VEB. months ago.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 3, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
really? was it when i had the bacon lung?
because you know i lost about 3 weeks of my memory
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 3, 2010 1:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sep 9?
looks like you were there, but had firefox problems.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 3, 2010 2:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow sounds like she had a pretty horrific death
and i don’t remember that day at all
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 3, 2010 3:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The black one got arrested for DUI in my hometown
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 2, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
be proud my man
be proud…
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i loved that show's racial sensitivity
so, there’s a black guy, and an asian girl…. Hmmmm…. What colours should we make their power-ranger suits?
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 2, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
asian girl
you know whats a shame, i dont think theres ever been an asian guy on the Real World, some asian girls, but no asian guys. That shows been on for like 10+ years
I want Tung Po!
by ILoveTheSt.LouisCardinals on Jan 3, 2010 5:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I see someone
has been on wikipedia again.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Jan 3, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps no Asian males were willing to sign away their dignity as quickly as the rest of those attention whores
P.S., I do enjoy “reality” TV.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Jan 8, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
tom, did you mean
high 8-figure/low 9-figure? ’Cause if we sign Holliday for a low 6-figure contract, I, for one, will be expecting the end of the world about a minute later.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 2, 2010 12:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
if only holliday did sign for a five year figure. Sigh..
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Mo would get
union’d on a stunt like that…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Jan 3, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i just noticed that. hoping nobody else did.
Not enough time to edit.
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
by tom s. on Jan 2, 2010 4:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
i did
i thought it was some joke that was over my head,
like holliday was signing for 89,000
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One major key to not getting a hangover
is to be plenty hydrated before drinking. Drinking water while drinking alcohol also helps.
Eating greasy, carb-y food before drinking can help prevent a hangover, but it doesn’t do anything to cure a hangover. Other proven hangover remedies: eggs, bananas, fruit juice, water, multivitamins.
Now with extra feisty!
by spants on Jan 2, 2010 12:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah, and aspirin.
Check that link for lots of good info.
Now with extra feisty!
by spants on Jan 2, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
eating that trash while drinkign is good, too
and so tasty!
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The thing with greasy, carb-y food
Is that it’s the only kind of food I remotely desire when hungover. I presume eating breakfast is a good thing for hangovers, therefore greasy, carb-y food is a hangover cure!
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jan 2, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Especially eggs!
Now with extra feisty!
by spants on Jan 2, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I crave chicken fried rice every time
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jan 2, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
despite the VEB bacon embargo
I have to say that a nice, thick bacon sandwich is my no.1 hangover cure (along with drinking gallons of water).
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 2, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my hangover cure
is not drinking more than one beer at a time
but that’s not very fun
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like sleeping through hangovers
Waking up at 6 in the afternoon feelin peachy keen.
I want Tung Po!
by ILoveTheSt.LouisCardinals on Jan 3, 2010 5:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i can't eat eggs anymore after the hunting incident of 1991
good thing i don’t get hammered anymore
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The thing that works like a charm for me
is McDonald’s chicken nuggets with sweet and sour sauce with a coke…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Jan 3, 2010 1:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh gawd i love McD's nuggets & their sweet & sour sauce
i could eat like 50 a day if i could afford it. their honey mustard sauce is money too
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 3, 2010 1:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I had that in DC after a night of TRB partying
and realized it was the best cure I’d ever found… since then I don’t even dick around with anything else…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Jan 3, 2010 2:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they used to be even better before they changed to all white meat
their dark meat pieces were the bomb diggity
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 3, 2010 3:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i used to go out with a friend of mine back near where my parents live quite a lot
and I’d usually spend the night on his couch. Pretty much every morning-after, we’d wake up, say “you know what, I’m really hankering for some KFC right now”, drive to KFC, get some, and then remember that it tastes like ass. This schedule was on rinse-and-repeat for about 2 years…
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 3, 2010 5:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I was at that game (the pic above)
Jo-el’s finest hour. Not only did he shut them down for eight innings, he drove in both (iirc) Cards runs.
Speaking of which, is the deadline to accept arby past? Joel would seem to be the best FA pitcher still out there, but there’s been only hints of teams being interested. Do you suppose he might panic a bit and accept arbitration, knowing that he would get a raise, and try again next year? I would think that would not be a bad thing for the Cards if he did.
by ArkansasTravs on Jan 2, 2010 12:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
nah
best he’d do if he accepted (and btw the deadline’s past and he didn’t) is that he’d get 1 year, maybe $10m. Realistically, if he wanted to get that deal, there’s plenty of clubs that’d do it. The Mets are unsure about 3 years at that value, but for one year I’m sure they’d bite his hand off.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 2, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the deadline to accept was past
just wasn’t sure. Again assuming we do end up signing Holliday, I would guess we might not have enough payroll room for another $10M pitcher. However, if nothing happens and he (Joel) is willing to take $8M for one year with an agreement to not offer arb next year, I would be tempted to do that.
by ArkansasTravs on Jan 2, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
meh
would much rather have a guy not coming off a career year, like smoltz.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too, probably,
but either Smoltz is wanting too much or we’re not very interested or…? At the end of the season, I fully expected Smoltz to sign up for another year with the Cards before the end of November. Surely his salary would fit even if we sign Holliday, no?
I really came to look forward to Joel’s starts last year. You are right to point out it was a career year and he probably won’t repeat that performance again (as evidenced by his fall off toward the end of the year).
by ArkansasTravs on Jan 2, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they better bring back Smoltzy & sign BEN SHEETS
Lego is the delay in them doing more. once they figure that mess out more deals should get done.
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure we have much money once Holliday signs
(if he signs, not counting any chickens…) – also, I think there’s an issue of how much he’ll cost and how the deal will be loaded. If it’s, say, $15m next year, I guess we can probably afford to talk to a Smoltz, or a Sheets even, but if it’s nearer $20m, it might be too close to get Smoltz. I’m guessing that’s why they’ve not talked to him. He seems like a good fit and there’s obviously mutual interest.
Also, bear in mind that Mozeliak’s procedure so far has been to keep the media very much in the quiet. Penny was signed with no hint of a suggestion that we were even talking to him, Lohse too, and the Lugo/Duncan trade, and the Khalil Greene trade, all went down without much media attention beforehand. Could well be we’ve got an offer on the table right now to SMoltz and we’re just waiting on the final $ figure for Holliday before we can pull the trigger.
I, for one, would love Smoltz back. He is one of my all-time favouritest players ever!!!
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 3, 2010 5:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not only did he shut them down for eight innings, he drove in both (iirc) Cards runs.
i remember that. good game
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 12:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
you guys know
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It really was John...
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Jan 3, 2010 1:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
probably not gonna be much more vluable than freese
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather see what Freese can do
other than drink us all under the table
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 2, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Yes.
Considering Crede’s only likely to play 90 games, we can still see what Freeze looks like in the majors with Ruben Gotay fallback option off the table.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Jan 2, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
crede would be nice as a very cheap pickup.
Not sure what the market is for him. Not likely to go before beltre and maybe not till after lopez.with the glut of 2b, wonder if lopez or uggla (in a trade) end up at 3b.
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
by tom s. on Jan 2, 2010 6:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Cardinals 252 votes...
Cubs 14. Either we signed Holliday and no one told me or homerism has completely rampant. Both teams have 20-24 WAR in the field, and the starting staffs are about equal. The Cubs have a better bullpen and their talent is less top heavy thus spreading out injury risk. They’re the slight favorites right now.
MB for LF in 2010!
by guayzimi on Jan 2, 2010 1:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I thought zambrano's numbers were removed because
it was assumed he would break his leg breaking a bat in half.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
TLR is worth 2-3 wins and
Piniella is probably league average at best.
Just win
by The Duke on Jan 2, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well the difference in vote totals probably doesn't mean that we think the Cardinals are
18 times more likely that the Cubs to win the division.
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jan 2, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I sense some bias from some of these voters
i voted for the last one just because I know my judgment is biased.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not going to try and pretend I'm unbiased.
But I do think the Cardinals are a little bit better, and they still have money to spend whether it gets spent on Holliday or not.
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jan 2, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for the Yankees
I think they have enough money to buy the entire NL at this point.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
by Taskmaster on Jan 2, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think that's why they're cutting payroll
saving up to buy the NL
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but Zambrano's going to hurt himself tackling a gatorade cooler
and Dempster will sprain his wrist flicking it too hard, and Soriano will skip into a wall, etc
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 2, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's tacklin fuel
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
by Taskmaster on Jan 2, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Assuming we have $20M to spend,
we’ve got another 4-6 WAR coming in one way or the other.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Jan 2, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But... they're the Cubs.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 2, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my thoughts exactly
but i may have been overly homer-cautious.
R.P.O.F.Y.M.
by BVHeck on Jan 2, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW, I'd dispute that the Cubs pen is better
I think both bullpens are pretty awful, to be honest. They’re very reliant on Marmol, and, like us, don’t really have a single pitcher they can “rely” on to get outs.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 3, 2010 5:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we're going to sign holliday
it’s inevitable. i’m going forward assuming he is the LF
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 1:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
reply fail all over the place today
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2009: Year of the Reply Fail
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by prophetjohn on Dec 16, 2009 1:15 AM EST on -12/15/09 Drop it like it’s hot….Stove Thread on Viva El Birdos
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by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2009 2:18 PM EST on B Prospects, Plan Bs, DWIs on Viva El Birdos
re: rolling machine
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by prophetjohn on Dec 13, 2009 3:42 PM EST on Non-Tendered is the Night on Viva El Birdos
the prospects post
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by prophetjohn on Sep 9, 2009 12:31 AM EDT on The Overflow Thread of Happy Endings? on Viva El Birdos
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by prophetjohn on Sep 3, 2009 9:23 PM EDT on The best pitch one can throw on Viva El Birdos
this was supposed to be in response to the athletic ability with regards to race debate
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by prophetjohn on Aug 23, 2009 4:32 PM EDT on Game 126 Open Thread — August 23, 2009 on Viva El Birdos
it moved on me
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by prophetjohn on Aug 21, 2009 11:59 PM EDT on Game 123 Overflow Thread on Viva El Birdos
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by prophetjohn on Jul 22, 2009 9:48 PM EDT on Game 97 Overflow on Viva El Birdos
that was for yadi2
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by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2009 6:12 PM EDT on Ghosty’s Assessment of the Current 2009 Cardinals (Opinion) on Viva El Birdos
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by prophetjohn on Jul 7, 2009 10:00 PM EDT on Game whatever overflow thread on Viva El Birdos
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by prophetjohn on Jul 7, 2009 6:53 PM EDT on Brewers imploding? on Viva El Birdos
supposed t be pointed to the .310 avg post
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by prophetjohn on Jul 3, 2009 3:22 PM EDT on Return of Goodemeyer on Viva El Birdos
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by prophetjohn on Jul 1, 2009 9:47 PM EDT on Game 80 Open Thread on Viva El Birdos
supposed to be to the arod comment
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by prophetjohn on Jun 30, 2009 11:54 PM EDT on Game 79 Overflow Thread on Viva El Birdos
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by prophetjohn on Jun 27, 2009 3:30 PM EDT on Game 76 Open Thread — June 27, 2009 on Viva El Birdos
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by prophetjohn on Jun 12, 2009 6:42 PM EDT on Rasmus is really, really good on Viva El Birdos
i didn’t read your whole post before replying fair point
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by prophetjohn on May 29, 2009 11:53 PM EDT on Game thread: Cardinals at Giants on Viva El Birdos
MB for LF in 2010!
by guayzimi on Jan 2, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
like half of them are me!
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
waitm they're all me!
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
impressive
in only four minutes/
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so much win in this thread.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Jan 2, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh good point...
I didn’t check to see if they’re yours…
Full analysis to come…
MB for LF in 2010!
by guayzimi on Jan 2, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I want pie charts!
and, in unrelated news, pie.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 3, 2010 5:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
where else is he gonna sign?
plus, you know mo. he wouldn’t say he’s “very optimistic” if it weren’t all but done. he’s very careful with his words
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
plus tlr's tweet
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mo is careful with his words
when he says “very optimistic” he means there’s still a chance it won’t happen.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course
there’s still a chance it won’t happen. Holliday may go elsewhere for more per year for a year or two, if he can find an offer. OTOH, I expect the holdup is that he and Boras are still trying to figure out what length of contract Holliday prefers with the Cards, given the average per year falls as the number of years increase.
by CRay on Jan 2, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of contracts
why is it players can get incentives on games finished and plate appearances, but I never see contracts that base HRs or RBIs(i know) as incentives.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
cba
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of which
isn’t it f’ed up that you can’t include performance based incentives? isn’t that the whole basis of employment?
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not if you're in a good union.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
by SleepyCA on Jan 2, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and therein lies the problem with unionization
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that, and the fact that people who cross them
often end up with their houses blown up.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
by SleepyCA on Jan 2, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but
if there were no chance of him signing elsewhere, mo won’t say it’s a sure thing until holliday’s name is on a contract. if it were only very likely, mo wouldn’t build it up by saying very optimistic
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what i mean is
it’s probably going to be more likely than mo is making it out to be because he wants to CYA
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be conservative and say I'm 80% confident holliday will sign.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the only way we don't sign him
is if he goes for a one- or two-year deal. If he signs somewhere long-term, it’ll be with us.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Jan 2, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather sign him for one year and 20M than 5 years or 8 or what ever it is.
that way we can go after someone like Crawford or Werth after that.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Holliday > Jayson Werth
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Jan 2, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and crawford
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2011 is mostly a pitchers FA class anyway.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not by a ton though
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 2, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
about 30 points of wOBA
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he makes it up with the glove though
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow, you;re right
looks like he’s pretty awesome with a glove
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I really like Werth
not so keen on Crawford now, though, long-term.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 3, 2010 5:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There can't be any chance...
he’ll do that. It would just be insanely stupid to take a 1/20 over a 5/80 for nothing more than the chance to make $120 or $140 million next year.
MB for LF in 2010!
by guayzimi on Jan 2, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it ain't over, till it's over
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you know what's cool?
not being able to take lunch until 2:30 when you got to work at 8
at least i’ll only have an hour and a half left when i get back
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 3:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i mean, i aint sayin it
but look at his freakin arms
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 3:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
After watching him play for two months, I couldn't help but think something was up.
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jan 2, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm to the point where i don't even care
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll drive the shipment to his house if he resigns.
That’s how little I care at this point. The only people I would be disappointed by would be Pujols, Jeter, or Griffey Jr. I just want a few guys that I can point to, and past that if they help us win, then I could care less.
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jan 2, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would be disappointed if randy johnson was one of the guys.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i've seen bigger
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this one of the few times
i could’ve gotten behind TWSS. blast you, 2010
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we found a new meme.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
careful
i think we’re all a little memophobic at the moment
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jan 2, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
memophobic, is that on urban dictionary yet?
it’s not a real thing till it’s there
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh shit
I just googled it and memophobia is the intense fear of memories. that’s not funny at all.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 2, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how could you even live like that? you'd have to be knocked out all the time
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i really liked it
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ya well it would suck being that guy...
worse example: 50 first dates.
R.P.O.F.Y.M.
by BVHeck on Jan 2, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but they weren't afraid of their memories, they didn't have any
there’s a big difference
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
touche
i got off topic quick huh?
R.P.O.F.Y.M.
by BVHeck on Jan 2, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
TWS ahhh f it all to hades
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be freaky.
Would have you have like nightmares about your childhood?
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
by Taskmaster on Jan 2, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The whole problem with TWSS is it's overused now.
I remember back in 2004 when a properly placed TWSS would be epic.
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jan 2, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
anyone know
when ST tickets go on sale? are they difficult to get? how much do they cost on average?
got a wild hair up my ass and decided i’m gonna go to jupiter for spring break
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 4:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
mlb.com
just like you do during the regular season.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Jan 2, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i know where to buy them
i just don’t know when/how much/how hotly contested they are
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have always had the impression that they are fairly easy to get.
I may be wrong.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 2, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
plus you might run into something unintentionally funny
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jan 2, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
do i need to live in st louis to get this?
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No.
They’re hotels in St. Louis I think. If you lived in St. Louis I assume you would stay in your home not a hotel.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 2, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but but
what’s unintentionally funny about that pic?
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh, because fredbird lives in st louis?
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The luggage.
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Jan 3, 2010 4:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know.
I didn’t get it either.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 2, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no one finds fredbird wielding luggage funny but me
my apologies. we now return you to your regularly scheduled offseason doldrums…
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jan 2, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ah okay
i’m just slow to the punch
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ohhhhhhhhhh...
Another blonde moment for me.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 2, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
per the mothership
2010 Spring Training tickets go on sale at stlcardinals.com on Saturday, January 16th
at 9am CT/10am ET.
by ubeddie on Jan 2, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
baller
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So, you're a fan of SuperTramp?
Hunh. To each his own, I guess.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 2, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
pictures that are neat
http://butdoesitfloat.com/103200/In-spite-of-these-oscillations-the-link-has-never-been-broken
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 2, 2010 5:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Strikeouts are fascist!
Bull Durham’s on KPLR-11.
by thepainguy on Jan 2, 2010 5:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
maybe, but they help your FIP which is important these days.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if anyone has noticed yet
I’ve made a comment every hour since 9PM CST last night.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 7:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
/hands CodyG a cookie.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
by SleepyCA on Jan 2, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well done.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 2, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks I need to keep my energy up
My sleep schedule is out of whack and this seems like an easy way to fix it.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i was up till 8am today & got back up at noon
my sleep is f’ed up big time as well
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've been up about 28 hours now
I still have an hour and a half to kill to get me back on track.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Surprised you are not wigging out and seeing things yet
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 2, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I, for one, did wipe off my screen...
MB for LF in 2010!
by guayzimi on Jan 2, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so did i
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Jan 2, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't the first time I saw it because I read the whole conversation at once
But every subsequent time, when I “z” down to it, it throws me off
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 3, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ditto. but then, there are often creepy-crawlies and no-see-ums around here.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 2, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
got me
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 2, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Uggh
I tried to wipe off my screen, read all these comments, couldn’t figure out what everyone was talking about, and then tried to wipe off my screen two more times before I figured out what was going on.
Gettin’ dumber by the day over here.
by peach concrete on Jan 2, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
'over here'
being my little corner of the world, not veb — y’all seem very clever still.
by peach concrete on Jan 2, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
blame it on the cold
it’s 8 degree’s here so it works for me
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
good idea
Although I’m not sure I noticed any upswing over the summer. It seems to be more of a general decline. I blame age and too much tv.
by peach concrete on Jan 2, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nonsense, if i've learned anything it's that TV is never to blame
and it can’t be age, you’re so young. everyone knows women stop aging at 21
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was for once not fooled.
Success! The brunette lowlights are kicking in!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 2, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My goal in life has been achieved.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 2, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Me neither
But only because I’ve been fooled before.
It’s like I always say: fool me once, shame on me—fool me twice, fuck you, stop messing with me.
We're going through a new avatar test phase here at mojowo11. Please be patient as we may try a variety of new ideas over the coming days and weeks.
by mojowo11 on Jan 3, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fool me...
you can’t get fooled again.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Jan 3, 2010 2:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
did you all realize that the mets were the only team
who had more minor leaguers suspended for PED’s & drugs than the Cardinals last season? i was just reading the article on the biz of baseball.com about PED’s suspensions & the mets had the most at 8, followed by the Cards & royals with 6 a piece. 6,,, uh,,, kind of ironic. the tigers had 5 & the dbacks, rays, flubs & nats each had 4.
i don’t know what that says about the farm system. are there are bunch of “cheaters” or just a bunch of stupid young idiots?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 7:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i don't care if they use it in the minors, they just better be off it when they hit the big show.
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 2, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't know how i feel about it
i was hoping someone smarter than i was going to come along & tell me what to think
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought most of ours
were for weed. And the ones that were for PEDs ended up being released.
by Evilfrog on Jan 2, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i didn't think
weed was illegal in baseball. what with all the soto and now lincecum business
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
majors=ok minors= nono...I think
* is an Asshat
by RiverRat on Jan 2, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Soto and Lincecum
didn’t test positive on a test.
by Evilfrog on Jan 2, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
soto did
but it was for the WBC
still, i think i’ve read that pot isn’t illegal in mlb. can’t imagin someone like lincecum would risk his job over a joint
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the union
would protect him pretty well from anything other than an official test.
by Evilfrog on Jan 2, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, its banned
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_drug_policy#List_of_banned_substances_.28not_exhaustive.29
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
let's try thank link again
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Before I click
I hope it’s listed as a performance enhancer… because it never stops being funny when people claim pot is a performance enhancer… I’m looking at you IOC…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Jan 3, 2010 2:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
man...
so disappointed…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Jan 3, 2010 2:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pot is banned but they can't even test for it
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jan 3, 2010 2:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure at this point in time
the Union could get a clause in the CBA that the GM has to come down and blow everyone before the game and the owners would have no way to stop it…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Jan 3, 2010 2:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MO would resign on the spot
not that there’s anything wrong with that
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 3, 2010 3:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't think any of us would blame him...
again… not that there’s anything wrong with that…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Jan 3, 2010 3:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't VEB just have this discussion?
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 2, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no idea
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't remember, i just found that number shockingly high
i only remembered only 2 or 3 being busted & i don’t remember what they were busted for
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by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FYP
I don’t care if they get caught in the minors, they just better not get caught when they hit the big show
:P
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 2, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the cards need to address the drug issues
with both alcohol and weed/PEDs. it’s getting ridiculous.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jan 2, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it is being address
Just because more people are getting caught with weed doesn’t mean that issue isn’t being addressed. I’d venture to guess that more people abused Weed/PEDs in the past now. More people poppin now is a result of better testing. And these people are getting punished for it.
Unlike less decade when if someone was smoking weed no one cared and everyone looked the other way on PEDs.
by Evilfrog on Jan 2, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
same as it ever was
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 2, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just meant that some ballplayers have always done banned substances
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 2, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's a link
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 3, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought they didn't care about mj
wrong!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 3, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, me too
maybe it’s not enforced? i just find it hard to believe that there have been no positive tests in mlb for marijuana since 2004 or whenever they started all that testing
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 3, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, why would they even bother testing for it
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 3, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
6?
I can only remember about 2, I think. Bighames and a pitcher whose name escapes me right now. I know Herron had issues with something like that, but I think we dumped him and he wasn’t suspended. Who else was it?
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 3, 2010 6:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it was three for drugs of abuse and three for PEDs, iirc.
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by tom s. on Jan 3, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
something that irritates me
is all the talk of vazquez being a number 4 starter for the yankees. now i know most VEBers are smarter than that, but i was content to believe that he would be the number 2 starter. interesting results when comparing him with sabathia and their ’09 seasons
stat – sabathia/vazquez
ERA – 3.37/2.87
FIP – 3.39/2.77
xFIP – 3.82/2.77
tRA – 3.95/3.67
K/9 – 7.71/9.77
BB/9 – 2.62/1.91
WHIP – 1.15/1.03
WAR – 6.0/6.6
ERA+ – 127/143
of course FG will tell you that JV had a career year and will likely regress more than sabathia, but if you look at tRA and tRA WAR and even tRA+ from statcorner, vazquez is pretty much in line with his career numbers and is also consistently slightly outperforming sabathia for the last 3 years.
i’d be interested to see some pitch f/x analysis (cough) if it’s even possible to see why there’s such a large difference between the consistency of vazqeuz’ FIP numbers and his tRA numbers. or is it just sampling error/bias?
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 10:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
maybe i should have posted this in the hot stove thread
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Might be the difference b/t AL and NL hitters.
I know, JV pitched in the AL ‘07-’08, and Sabathia pitched for a bit in the NL in ‘08. But JV’s numbers look to me to be better in the NL than the AL.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 2, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ERA+
is league and park adjusted, i believe. and the main thing with the AL east is the yankees. he’s pitching for the yankees and doesn’t have to face them. and the red sox aren’t much different from the phillies offensively as far i can tell
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
also
someone please correct me if i’m wrong, but pretty sure that statcorner’s tRA WAR is park/league adjusted and vazquez comes out on top all of the last three years
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
I’ve wondered over the last year or so why Vazquez always is underrated
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 2, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's the New York media...
2004 was his worst year, and they haven’t forgotten.
4-6 more WAR in 2010!
by guayzimi on Jan 2, 2010 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they also blame him for their collapse in the ALCS as well
he may never live that down in NYC.
by all accounts he’s probably their #3 if he keeps doing what he’s done
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by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's better than Burnett imo...
4-6 more WAR in 2010!
by guayzimi on Jan 2, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
is he a better pitcher in the AL?
i don’t think he is. and if AJ ever learns to be a pitcher instead of a thrower half the time he’d be even better than he is now
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by gdm426 on Jan 2, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
based on what?
burnett isn’t a good pitcher
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
aren't vazquez' stats better?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 2, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
whoops
I misread your comment, sorry!
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 2, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, you better be, chitown
you better be…
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by prophetjohn on Jan 2, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I repent, I repent!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 2, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They're pretty much the same pitcher
across the board. Burnett walks a few more batters and Vazquez allows more HRs.
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by EinFesteBusch on Jan 3, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
identical career FIP
who’d a thunkit. I always assumed Vazquez was a bit better.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 3, 2010 6:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
um, good question
he’s got a live arm, he’s got a winning attitude, he’s a team player & he’s good in the clubhouse
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 3, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A few reasons
1) The defenses behind him have consistently been miserable.
2) He’s pitched worse with runners on base than you would expect from a guy with his strikeout ability.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 3, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1) who?
javy’s tRA numbers are consistent and the defenses behind him wouldn’t affect his FIP numbers
2) i don’t understand how that affects the disparity either
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 3, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you need to read up on FIP
by vivaelpujols on Jan 4, 2010 3:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, nevermind, I misread your origional statement
I thought you were talking about FIP vs. ERA.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 4, 2010 3:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
can't believe almost missed this
Happy Palindrome Day 01022010!
more palindrome goodness: http://norvig.com/palindrome.html
also, interpol is the new world police
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 2, 2010 11:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ten animals i slam in a net.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 3, 2010 6:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what's wrong with the picture...? I'm thinking tom s. wants to draw our attention
to Skip’s mustache.
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by Yadi2Second on Jan 3, 2010 1:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
sexy wise, there's nothing wrong with it either
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 3, 2010 1:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
let's say the key is in the caption.
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
by tom s. on Jan 3, 2010 2:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
OT, handegg alert
i’m sick of the WWL bending over backwards to trash Mike Leach just because their douchebag “analyst” & even bigger douchebag (redacted) pathetic excuse of a son pissed him off so much he tried to get him to quit his team. if any other player or any other parent pulled the shiat they pulled, that kid would have been thrown off the team. but just because it’s one of their own they do everything they can to trash a pretty damn fine football coach. craig james is a steaming pile of crap & was fired from cbs for being sleazy dbag & incompetent moran. he was also demoted from abc’s coverage of college football for the same thing. he’s lucky to even have a job right now. he had to pay his kids high school off just to get his kid on the football team & his kid is lucky to have gotten a D1 college interested in him. if you watched the alamo bowl you saw them focus in on that dbag pos every 30 seconds trying to get people to feel sorry for him, but you can’t because he was walking around on the sidelines with the biggest shiat grin on his face. barely any of his teammates were talking to him & none of the players playing in the game even gave him the time of day. why? because he’s a (redacted) dbag pos that even his teammates want nothing to do with him. that should tell you all you need to know about the situation.
james has no credibility whatsoever yet the WWL acts like he’s God’s gift to the world & we should all believe him & not that mean weird coach. f them, f the WWL & i hope Leach takes them all to court & win millions from how badly he’s been treated.
/steps off soapbox
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 3, 2010 1:58 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I haven't been in touch on all of this stuff
since I’ve spent the better part of the last week dealing with moving and the associated nonsense of that. But it sounds to me that Tech didn’t want to pay Leach the money he was due. And he picked a bad time to go overboard on a kid that was being a brat. That being said I understand the kid had a brain bruise… and if he didn’t feel like practicing then he shouldn’t have had to practice, but also shouldn’t have played in the next game. If I’m Leach I give him all the time in the world to heal up… by not letting him play until he decides to stop being a brat and start being a team player.
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by ducttape16 on Jan 3, 2010 2:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know
Used to be, if you didn’t like your playing time or something else about your college program, you would just TRANSFER.
He’s still probably going to have to transfer. I hope his teammates gave him a soap party.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 3, 2010 2:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's a big part of it, he really pissed them off last year when he had an offer to go somewhere else
and worked out a newer deal at Tech with a raise of course. but if craig james wasn’t this kids dad, nothing would have happened. only because he works for the WWL is this an issue. if the kid hadn’t quit by now, he would have been cut for the crap he pulled. he is a lazy, whiny little biatch who thinks just because his dads on tv he deserves his ass to be kissed by everyone on the planet.
i really hope Leach takes them to the cleaners. but he’ll probably pull a Mangino & settle for about half the money left on his deal & go coach somewhere else next fall. he should have any pick of the available jobs because everyone knows the WWL idiots aren’t to be believed. he doesn’t abuse his players, if he did, he’d have been fired years ago.
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 3, 2010 3:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Mangino and Leach...
I feel like I should share this with everyone. Made me laugh as an Illinois fan…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Jan 3, 2010 3:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For Illinois football...
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jan 3, 2010 3:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Juice...
You kept many a future hepatologists well into the black…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Jan 3, 2010 3:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I swear Ron Zook will be right there with the Twinkies & cockroaches
running around this rock long after the nuclear & zombie apocalypse has destroyed us all
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 3, 2010 3:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Amen
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 3, 2010 2:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait...
…Mike Leach did Tiger Woods?
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by vexedtechie on Jan 3, 2010 5:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also...FWIW
I think this is outright wrong. Leach has been one of the coaches I’ve loved to watch. Vocal about his team, supportive in all manners, not afraid to stir a little controversy.
This whole ordeal is unreal.
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by vexedtechie on Jan 3, 2010 5:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree with you sir
The school is dirty. he could be at UWash right now but eh decided to stay at that god forsaken school. All my TTech friends are incredibly pissed off. They are going to be mediocre as long as that ownership is in place.
I mean, the guy NEVER HAD A HISTORY of being abusive to players, they didn’t do a full investigation, and the facts were muddled up by the media jackass known as Craig James. It’s disgusting. He was one of my favorite coaches. Maybe Indiana will play him the money. I sure as hell know I would.
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by Taskmaster on Jan 3, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Po blogs on the Royals
Should we read it, or should we tl;dr and give the Royals fans even more reason to hate our utter lack of interest in them?
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2010/01/02/the-royal-decade/
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by Yadi2Second on Jan 3, 2010 2:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
hey I learned something!
*Riddle me this Batman: There have only been a few players named Jamie or Jaime in the Big Leagues — and it seems a disproportionate number of them have been left-handed pitchers — Jamie Moyer, Jaime Easterly, Jaime Garcia, Jaime Cerda, Jamie Walker. Maybe it’s just my imagination.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 3, 2010 2:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
3 catchers too
http://www.fangraphs.com/players.aspx?lastname=jamie
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 3, 2010 6:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if like me you find yourself unable to sleep at this early hour,
i suggest you turn on comedy central & experience the greatness that is jim norton unedited & uncut. you’ll thank me later
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 3, 2010 4:01 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I watched. I approved.
I also enjoyed the Saget standup, but not the Roast.
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by vexedtechie on Jan 3, 2010 5:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs fan here.
I think you pegged the Byrd signing perfectly. The Cubs have moved laterally in their OF over the course of the offseason, as I expect them to be about 30 run worse on offense and 30 runs better on defense over the course of the year (OF’s only). The rest of the everyday lineup looks to return, which means any further improvement would have to come from bounce-back years from Soto and Soriano, and a more healthy Ramirez. (And yes, I also expect Lee to regress a bit.)
The biggest problem is the Cubs also lost Harden. Frustratingly, they lost him without getting any compensation in return. They need to go after a Sheets or Smoltz type SP, if for no other reason that if tehy don’t do that they’re looking at a month+ of Silva in the rotation as Lilly recovers.
It looks to be the Cards and Cubs again in 2010, and as of right now I have it as a very close race. But if you guys add Holliday, you’re the clear favorites.
by shawndgoldman on Jan 3, 2010 5:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
and yes...
this means I’m hoping someone (anyone? Buehler?) swoops in and signs Holliday before he signs with St. Louis. I’m not optimistic, however.
by shawndgoldman on Jan 3, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Like you said, t's a real shame for you guys that the Cubs got nothing in return for losing Harden.
Now with extra feisty!
by spants on Jan 3, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's also a shame that we didn't get him
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jan 3, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, especially for that money.
But wasn’t there a report that said the Cards were in on him until they saw his medical files? I’m guessing his shoulder is a bird’s nest.
Now with extra feisty!
by spants on Jan 3, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how many more days til pitchers and catchers report?
I am the Batman
by CodyG on Jan 3, 2010 9:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
they already have.
It’s just that no-one told you.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 4, 2010 8:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well, the cards have clearly won the poll with 79% of over 900 votes.
hfs. either a lot more people are visiting the site on the day after new year’s than i had thought or some of you are signing in from alternate accounts. also the “astros/pirates/mudhens” option has more votes than the reds. hmm.
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
by tom s. on Jan 3, 2010 10:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sounds much like the poll
I saw on a Blackhawks telecast of favorite original 6 stadium… I’ll give you one guess how that voting went…
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by ducttape16 on Jan 3, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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