Community Projection and Discussion: Colby Rasmus
by DanUpBaby on Jan 19, 2010 6:15 AM EST
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PrintYesterday's McGwire/Rasmus photo—I have included another, although I had to fight to use the 2007 Jim Edmonds file photo that showed up in the AP browser overnight—reminded me that if 2009 hadn't been the year that UZR became available on a constantly updated, free, easily searchable basis, Colby Rasmus's rookie year would have been seen as a striking disappointment. And that reminded me that it was time to decide, collectively, what would qualify as a colossal disappointment for Rasmus in 2010.
With that in mind, my first effort at a Google Docs community projection can be found here.
One thing to keep in mind, having had to throw out a few Hall of Fame ballots: You have to have a VEB username to participate in the community projections. If you don't have one, signing up is free and easy and initiated by clicking the big Start Posting about the Cardinals button—I just logged out to make sure it existed. You won't be able to post comments immediately—there's a two day probationary period, if I remember correctly—but when I'm running usernames against the administrator list, I'll be able to see it.
So: the categories, as ever, are AB, R, HR, RBI, AVG, OBP, and SLG. After the jump: analysis. If you're worried about my half-formed opinions (and more importantly your fellow commenters talking about their own projections in the comments) affecting your judgment, fill yours in now. (The link again.)
Here's Rasmus's career to this point, with MLEs (from Dan Szymborski's zMLE spreadsheet, a must-download) swapped in for his years in the minors:
| Year | G | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | AVG | OBP | SLG |
| 2006 | 131 | 510 | 54 | 128 | 22 | 7 | 14 | 72 | 43 | 101 | 19 | .251 | .314 | .404 |
| 2007 | 128 | 490 | 70 | 119 | 32 | 3 | 19 | 54 | 54 | 117 | 14 | .243 | .328 | .437 |
| 2008 | 90 | 339 | 50 | 83 | 14 | 0 | 8 | 30 | 42 | 73 | 13 | .245 | .327 | .357 |
| 2009 | 147 | 474 | 72 | 119 | 22 | 2 | 16 | 52 | 36 | 95 | 3 | .251 | .307 | .407 |
Thoughts:
- Wow. Those 2007 MLEs for his big breakout in Springfield—he hit.275/.381/.551—are certainly one way of urging caution re: the lesser prospects who put up big numbers in the friendly confines of the Texas League. (Daryl Jones's 2008, if you're curious: .238/.336/.362. Tyler Henley 09: .262/.316/.380. Daniel Descalsco 09: .261/.331/.410, which actually doesn't seem so bad...) Of course, Rasmus also put up that number as a 20 year-old. Justin Upton (.250/.353/.463 in Arizona in 2008) was the first MLB 20 year-old who came to mind, and is not all that far removed.
- Rasmus had solid plate discipline in the minors, and it's reasonable to expect he'll get back around the league average OBP in 2010, but unless he goes full Cameron and suddenly begins walking 75-80 times a year, he'll need to get that batting average out of neutral.
- Speaking of which: when Rasmus's numbers are arranged like this, with his batting average stuck around .250, Mike Cameron begins to look like a fair comparison. That would be something of a disappointment for Rasmus, who was drafted with offense in mind, but given the way his defense has bloomed since 2005 it wouldn't be the end for him as an all-star caliber player. That said, given the weird shape of Rasmus's year and his various maladies, an offensive breakout doesn't seem out of the question. Goal for 2010: walk at least once in every month.
Rasmus's apparent defensive skills provides a cushion for his continued offensive development. His 13.4 UZR/150 might not be his true talent level, but even if his offensive development is marginal at best he'll be a fine center fielder, no hindrance to a plausible playoff team. If he does take the next step, or even just a step, he's among the best players on the team. At 24, and with the Cardinals' budget tied up, that's great to see.
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mark mcgwire has just finished making colby wax all his cars.
next, time to paint the fence.
colby wants to know why he can’t start using the bat.
if you don't know what is wrong with me, then you don't know what you've missed. - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 19, 2010 6:28 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
First learn walk
then learn let fly.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jan 19, 2010 7:54 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Colby-san
hitting homers, yes
hitting homers, no
hitting homers, maybe… squish
Actually, the best thing anyone can do/help/encourage Colby to do is to be patient at the plate (a common observation, I know). The guy’s obviously talented and if he could manage to be more selective I think his numbers would improve across the board.
This has been brought up a number of times, but I’ll toss it out there again anyway, I think Colby will be bouncing around the order quite a bit this year. Assuming that’s true (which, of course, it may not be), I wonder how that effects the level of patience in his approach. On one hand, if was hitting second, he might be more inclined to work the counts, but at the same time, he’d be getting some quite drivable pitches. If he were hitting, say 6th, he might be more inclined to be hacktacular, but with a lesser quality of offerings.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Jan 19, 2010 8:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Affects, not effects
just sayin’
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 19, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
All this made me think of was the Karate Kid reboot starring
Will Smith’s son and Jackie Chan, which, in turn, makes me shake my head in disappointment.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
DEAR PEOPLE INVOLVED IN CULTURE
PLEASE COME UP WITH SOME NEW CULTURE.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
No kidding
Jackie Chan isn’t even Japanese. For crying out loud.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Nor is he Okinawan
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 19, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Nor is it about Karate?
The Kung-fu Kid?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 19, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure Pat Morita isn't either, in their defense
And make no mistake, I love me some Jackie Chan. But it’s wrong wrong wrong. Kung Fu Kid actually doesn’t sound that bad to me though. Anybody know if the character will Chinese instead? I would be way happier with that than passing off yet another Asian actor to the American audience as whatever random Asian ethnicity/nationality the screeplay requires. I’m OK with this in small doses but it can get pretty ridiculous.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
looks like he will be Chinese
according to IMDb
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 19, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting
This actually sounds way way better. And I see it’s technically an “untitled Karate Kid remake” so maybe they will find a better name.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Rumor just in...
from my head. Ralph Macchio will play the villain in this film (yes, the teenaged villain).
Colby-wan, sand da floor!
I think Colby might someday be the best around.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
not sure what you linked to
but now that song will be in my head until at least lunch, when I can pop Foreigner’s greatest hits in, and get something else stuck in my head…
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Why would you want something else stuck in your head?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I had "Tha Crossroads" by Bone Thugs N Harmony stuck in my head all day yesterday
for absolutely no reason
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 19, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Too bad it's not tha first of tha month
“The nineteenth of tha month” doesn’t have the same ring to it…
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
it's the nineteenth of tha month
stay down, stay down, stay down
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
I had Fly Me to the Moon stuck in my head all weekend
I don’t even own any songs by Sinatra. What the hell was that about, brain?
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
Worse
Is when you get the Evangelion version stuck.
Dots Miller for HOF. 'cuz a name means everything!
because
I can only entertain my coworkers for so long with the same song
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Just tell them
that a little bit of all they’ve got will never bring them down.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
That's not how you hit dingers!!!
Here; Watch me hit dingers.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
by Cardinals645 on Jan 19, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
I Like to Think....
… Razzy projects moore like one of our Cards favorites Andy Van Slyke – provided he can improve his batting eye, take some walks, and hit in the .275-.286 range. With homers and steals in the mid-20’s and outstanding defense, he would be just what Dr. MooCow ordered to anchor center for the next decade or so. But for him to hit in the 2 slot he needs to cut down on Ks and try to slap the ball around the field moore. Hopefully Big Mac will help him with pitch recognition so he can be aggressive with pitches in the SZ and can ignore those outside it. I think the power is there and will come, and the speed and D is already there.
:=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
Why slap the ball?
Driving the ball increases the odds of a hit when you are playing on grass and not Busch II ashphault.
Figure of Speech....
…clearly Cheese has the power to drive the ball and doesn’t need to slap it around a la Shoe maker to get on base and ‘make things happen’. Point is it would behoove us all for him to get a few moore walks in that position, but it is a nice think to have power out of the 2 slot as well. I have always though of Shoe as moore of a 2 slot guy: good bat control, able to bunt and move runners over and hit with gap power, instead of a traditional lead-off guy (lots of walks and steals), but I really like the Shoe/Cheese/Mang/Lego/Studwick fivesome, at least against right handers. I am still a bit worried about lefties since the first two in that line up have such troubles against them; we can substitute Lugo for Shoe, but we will need to moove Rasmus further down if he doesn’t develop vs lefties. Having said that, he is young and needs to see moore lefty pitching so he can improve, so we can start him in the 2 slot and see cow he progresses during the year. Hopefully they are working on not only on pitch selection, but on selection from lefties. Cheese doesn’t need to hammer the ball vs lefties, but if he can get on base via walks at a good enough clip then he can stay in the 2 slot and anchor the line-up.
Oh, and by the way: MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
:=8D
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
I'll have you know, MooCow
That my 13.5 month old daughter says moo, a lot. Like, whenever she sees a cow or a picture of a cow. It’s actually quite hilarious.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I don't think Colby's ever going to be the #2 hitter we were kinda hoping he'd be
maybe against RHP. I just don’t think he’s ever going to significantly exceed a league-average OBP.
I’d rather he just works on taking a few more walks, and keeps hitting for power. As he fills out, these 20-HR years are going to turn into 30-HR years, and, even if he’s not slap-hitting and walking enough to get on base at more than maybe a .330-340 clip, he’ll still be plenty valuable with his glove and powar.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Bit of a premature judgment,
donchathink?
I can come up with a pretty compelling narrative for why Colby’s walk rate was what it was in his rookie season:
He actually had a promising start getting on base, with a 254/357/305 line in April. . .
Seeing the lack of pop that he exhibited in the early going, pitchers started challenging him, to the tune of a 212/256/447 May and the infamous no walk, but otherwise very solid 333/333/536 June. . .
His walk rates stabilized a bit the rest of the way, but between his stomach issues and hitting the rookie wall, and (probably) the league figuring out how best to pitch to him, his performance suffered down the stretch.
He may not develop the walk rate that we’d all like to see, but I’m not ready to write that part of his game off yet based on his rookie 22yo season.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jan 19, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not writing it off
I’m just saying he’s not going to be an on-base machine.
I just don’t think he’s ever going to significantly exceed a league-average OBP.
If he’s as good in defense as his numbers suggest, and he advances up to a level where he’s hitting 30 HR/yr (which I think looks very possible) he’s going to still be one of the most valuable players in the league, even if he is only league average at getting on base. That’s pretty much what Grady Sizemore does, minus 30-40 points or so of OBP (and I think Colby COULD be better in the field). I’m writing the guy off by saying I still think he’s got a good shot at being a tiny bit less valuable Grady Sizemore?!
Rasmus has never been an OBP machine in the minors. His ceiling was .380 in AA (in an extreme hitters’ park) a couple of years ago, and it’s be amazing to see him reach that level in the majors, although I’m not sure he can consistently. Yes, he’s got a lot of projection left, but he’s got a LONG way to go from his 2009 numbers to reach league average, and to be the sort of hitter I’d want in the 2-hole ideally (a guy with a .380-400-odd OBP). I was maybe a bit harsh on him – perhaps a .350-360 OBP is attainable, but it’ll take a pretty huge jump in his walkrate from his rookie year AND his minor league MLEs in that department (he only walked about 12-13% in AA and AAA in his whole years, and that doesn’t normally translate to a huge BB rate in the majors).
I like him a lot, but I think it’s a stretch to imagine he’ll be above-average next year (he’s got to be upping his walkrate a few % and have much better BABIP luck/ability to get to a league average .330-some OBP), and I think when he reaches his peak he’ll be better than that, but not by a huge amount. I’d LOVE to be proved wrong, though.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
LaRussa calls on Mo to sign DeRosa
Per Matthew Leach:
La Russa said that if the Cardinals only make one move, he ranks a hitter as a higher priority than a pitcher — and ideally, a hitter who could play third base and the outfield. Felipe Lopez comes to mind.
“We’re talking about creating a competition at third,” he said. "We can use some outfield depth. If you only have one bullet, [you’d like] a guy that can do both those things.
“When you have some of the possibilities we have — like with Kyle [McClellan], with [Mitchell] Boggs, with [Blake] Hawksworth — if you have the resources, I think right now, in my opinion, probably a position player has a slightly higher priority than a pitcher.”
It’s funny that TLR’s assessment of the youngsters is the exact opposite of mine. I’m far more comfortable with the idea that one of Freese or Craig will pan out than McClellan, Boggs, and Hawksworth being effective in 2010. I mean this in terms of the rotation, since that is how I interpreted his statements. This may be out-of-context. I think two of three pitchers listed ought to be okay out of the ’pen.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Man, I screwed that up.
La Russa said that if the Cardinals only make one move, he ranks a hitter as a higher priority than a pitcher — and ideally, a hitter who could play third base and the outfield. Felipe Lopez comes to mind.
“We’re talking about creating a competition at third,” he said. "We can use some outfield depth. If you only have one bullet, [you’d like] a guy that can do both those things.
“When you have some of the possibilities we have — like with Kyle [McClellan], with [Mitchell] Boggs, with [Blake] Hawksworth — if you have the resources, I think right now, in my opinion, probably a position player has a slightly higher priority than a pitcher.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
SBN has trouble with multi-paragraph blockquotes
Happens to me, too. It’s especially bad when you try to put text before and after the quote.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
But DeRosa is already signed
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
That was the joke
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
/swoosh!
that went straight over my head
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
I didn't get it either.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 19, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
I don't have a great deal of faith...
in the Hawk, and even less in K-Mac. However, I think Boggs could be a force out of the pen.
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
by cardzfanbub on Jan 19, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Looks like McGwire
is teaching Colby to bet right hand
(so he can hit dingers)
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
he might bat right handed too
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
bettor
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 19, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
such pedantry!
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 19, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
pedanticity!
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 19, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
yes, yes i am.
Blame my mother. She taught me to fear the death of the English language. As a result, everyone around me suffers. Literacy FTW!
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 19, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
I know my senses of humorz go a bit against the grain for this blog
but I’m kinda tired of this right-handed meme already. Sigh. I like the word dingers, though, so that’s awesome.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
No, I agree
and I’m right-handed. And, I’m not that fond of “dinger”, though “root” tickles my fancy, considering what it means in Australia.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 19, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
we should stick to our own.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
OMG Reds
They point out a fun fact that I did not know (and I recommend reading the whole post):
[Pujols] actually turned 30 on Saturday, but if you look at his filthy numbers, it’s hard to believe he’s only 30. He has more home runs at 30 than Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, Babe Ruth or Barry Bonds had. And he shows no signs of slowing down at all (he had 700 plate appearances last season, which matches his career high).
Why do we bring this up? (Last I checked this isn’t OMGCardinals.com.) Well, because he’s just about the biggest Reds Killer around. Pujols has hit exactly 40 home runs against three different teams: the Cubs, the Pirates and the Reds.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
All NL Central teams
That have had lots of suck in Albert’s career. Not too surprising. But still kind of cool to see the historical comparison.
Also, I rally like the name of that site since I’m a dork like that.
Barry Bonds’ entire career is so good. It’s really amazing how much better he was in the 90s than anyone else.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Also, I rally like the name of that site since I’m a dork like that.
Ditto. I played online poker for the first time in about a year on sunday against someone called “OMGLOLLOL” which I thought was a pretty cool name. It’d be even cooler if someone from this blog plays small to mid-stakes omaha at full tilt and IT WAS THEM.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
omgcardinals.com
my home page
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 19, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
omgwtfcardinalsrofl.com
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
is this website
full of little colby rasmuses in precarious and adorable situations with clever captions?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 19, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
shouldn't that be
chicagocubsLOL.com?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
by STLRegalia on Jan 19, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I believe that site is located at
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
by mojowo11 on Jan 19, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Thanks for giving us
a more structured way to plug in our projection numbers.
Seems to me there was a lot of sentiment last year that we ought to be using PAs instead of ABs in these projections. It helps to start with that when I create these projections, since I like to calculate the underlying numbers before throwing the rate stats out there.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Jan 19, 2010 10:18 AM EST reply actions
Colby-San
thou shall hit
I want the Walrus back...
by Paulspike on Jan 19, 2010 10:23 AM EST reply actions 9 recs
Let's make this comment...
…green.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
YEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH....
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
I think
we may have found corporate sponsorship for Albertofstan…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
I'm debating with a girl what's worse:
Affliction Dbags or Kevin Federlines?
They both make me wanna find a puppy and kick it. I think latching on to another persona is slightly more embarrassing and pathetic than overcompensating with silly skull tshirts and roid rage.
Go.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
I've always pictured Federline in an affliction t-shirt and gray beanie
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
a poser in affliction....
that would be the antithesis of the pegacorn.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
I love love love this Google docs thing
For one thing it’s easier. No worrying about posting in a comma-delimited format with all the corrections and whatnot. Also, it’s more anonymous. This is helpful for two reasons: the first is that it makes people less likely to be influenced accidentally by others’ projections, and the second is that I don’t have to worry about my projections seeming way out of left field compared to smarter peoples’ projections.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Ah but we can't peg the "average projector guy" anymore
My only problem with google docs is that i can’t ge to it from work, damn guess I will have to actually do work then
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
DanUp can do all that
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 19, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Work blocks the weirdest stuff...
I mean, what’s the harm of Google Docs? That’s really too bad.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i can't get on a lot of the sites that house pictures at work
stuff like photobucket and imageshack. Not sure why.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
bandwidth
Uploading lots of pictures could take up tons of your company’s bandwidth … also, I’m sure they’d rather have you being productive than perusing pictures of Aunt Edna’s 90th birthday party.
by QuadCitiesCardsFan on Jan 19, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
Quite true
It just works simply and easily
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
I only use imageshack because I have a desktop uploader that automatically uploads it to
imageshack and copys the link for me. I really wish there was one for Imgur.
I am the Batman
did you notice that a VEB fanpost is on the funny frontpage?
this has to be monumental, right?
I am the Batman
what's the harm?
How about putting sensitive data from work into an online database that isn’t secure?
I could definitely see why Google Docs would be blocked.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
But then people might not like me!
I’m so confused…
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I fucking HATE procrastinators...
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
You can technically chat on it
So if your work blocks chat clients, that’s why.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
Me either.
That’s why I just go to Fangraphs and copy all the Bill James projections.
Just kidding…I changed a few of them :)
I don’t have to worry about my projections seeming way out of left field compared to smarter peoples’ projections
Albertofstan.
F* Yeah!
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jan 19, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
I suck at projections
so I just tried to give mine a theme
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
MLEs
Daryl Jones’s 2008, if you’re curious: .238/.336/.362.
That wouldn’t be too bad for a platoon piece/4th OF, if we assume his defense is a big plus or he can play a credible CF. That’s a bit better than we’d probably expect from Carlos Gomez in 2010.
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No, true
but he’s got some growin’ to do. A .336 OBP is OK for a corner OF who looks likely to be +10 defender, at least (possibly better from what I’ve heard), and that AVG/SLG looks a bit BABIP unlucky to me…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
peaking of which: when Rasmus’s numbers are arranged like this, with his batting average stuck around .250, Mike Cameron begins to look like a fair comparison. That would be something of a disappointment for Rasmus
If Colby Rasmus turns into Mike Cameron, I for one would be pretty happy, I think. Cameron’s been pretty good, and there’s actually a reasonable argument that he’s in the discussion as a very-very-very-deep-reaching HOF candidate, at least by career WAR. The outer reaches of the hall are players in the 60s (or so) career WAR, I believe, and, assuming his defence was better than it is now during the first 6 years or so of his 12 year career, he’s probably averaged about 4.5 WAR/yr for 12 years, 54 WAR. Two good years in Boston and he’s in the 60 WAR bracket, which is well ahead of guys like Jim Rice and a nose ahead of the late-50s totals I’ve seen from most sources for Andre Dawson.
No, i don’t think he’s in either, but he maybe makes the Ray Lankford wing…
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I thought career WAR in the 60's was about average?
That supposition is what I cling to with Jim Edmonds.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
yeah, maybe it is
once you get out of the 60s and into the 70s and 80s nearly everybody’s in. There’s a few guys in the 50s, like Dawson, and some of things I’ve seen on rice peg him in the late 40s, which means that his entire career was about as valuable as what Chase Utley’s will look like (age 31) after a healthy 2010. Wow.
Cameron will probably sniff 60 by the time he retires, conservatively he’s at least late 40s, arguably early 50s now. Most of his value comes from being an excellent CF, though, and obviously defense isn’t very well valued on the whole, and certainly pre-UZR it gets a bit difficult.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Where did you get the...
early/late thing from rather than low/high? I was really confused on your first post with what the late-50’s had to do with Andre Dawson who played 20 years later…
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
by cardzfanbub on Jan 19, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
tbh, I think Cameron's offense would be perfectly acceptable
he’s been consistently above-average with the bat throughout his career, and I suspect they’re probably comparable defenders. Colby’s maybe a bit better with the glove now, but I spose MC is 38 now.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
Colby has to hit left handed pitchers or else
Last year Colby posted a line of .160/.219/.255/.474 vs LHP. A line that makes Joe Thurston look good. As it stands right now no one is going to be able to take playing time away from Colby. We don’t have a backup CFer (Ludwick doesn’t count in my mind). So he has to learn how to hit LHP or Tyler Greene will be playing in CF at some point again this season.
Now he was rather unlucky. He did only post a .184 BABIP vs LHP but much of that was fueled by a pathetic LD%. I have heard people cite that he didn’t have a split in his minor league career. Which is fairly true he hit .826 vs LHP and .860 vs RHP. But what scares me is that he posted a .685 vs LHP and .787 vs RHP in 2008.
Now the jump from AA to AAA for pitchers is normally the ability to throw quality off speed stuff. Colby still can not hit the outside off speed stuff especially from a LHP. The one thing I hope McGwire can teach Rasmus is the ability to just lay off the stuff. Most of it is not even thrown for strikes.
One problem
NOTHING makes Joe Thurston look good.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
RuPaul?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
by STLRegalia on Jan 19, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
i'd hit it....no wait....
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Damn you guys
I made a good point than this crap pops up
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Check Carlos Gonzalez's splits
in his 2008 campaign .188/.207/.247/.454 vs.LHP
in his 2009 campaign .276/.343/.466/.809 vs.LHP
The sample sizes aren’t big enough to be sure yet but I do see them as very similar players. Good power speed combination OF with ++defense and huge upside, if Clobby has the breakout month that CarGo had in August of last year you can pencil them in for the 2012 All-star lineup next to Lego
Is there any news on agreements being reached with Skip or Ludwick to avoid arbitration?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
My guess is...
both parties are waiting to see what figures each side turns in, and will meet somewhere in the middle before the hearings. This is what we did last year with Ludwick.
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
by cardzfanbub on Jan 19, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
and of course heyman
couldn’t just report the news, had to be an ass about it too
not bad for someone who doesnt have to protect albert anymore.
He's obsessed..
with the protection thing. Pujols was worse with Holliday than he was before Holliday.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
Heyman, as his post-season org ratings demonstrates
is a solid chrome asshat.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
the headline: "In 'wick of time: Slugger, Cards avoid arbitration"
think of your own memes, Mothership
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
You just know that Leach reads VEB
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
he sometimes even comments
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
i think its just MatthewLeach
or something like that. maybe an underscore or something. i’ve seen him on here a couple times, but its been a while.
I wanna say there's a middle inital involved
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
MatthewHLeach
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 20, 2010 3:33 AM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah, I'd forgotten that
I do wonder if Leach actually writes the headlines, though.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
the headline writers often ≠article writers
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I think there's only one way to find out for sure
Hey Matt? Matt? Leachdawg? You out there?
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
Do we have
a Leach Signal™ yet?
Albertofstan.
F* Yeah!
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jan 19, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
they know better than to ignore flim
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
They ignore majority of what i say
But occasionally I am insightful enough I guess
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
I also noticed the sidebar on the main page
says Ludwick hit 22 “dingers” last year.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
I saw that, too.
And, since tom s. is constantly referencing Rotoworld, I assumed it to mean that tom s. moonlights writing blurbs for the VEB Rotoworld Cardinals sidebar.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Nothing makes Colby a disappointment to me.
Seriously though. I just want him to start hitting lefties and being more patient than he was last year. I know those thigs have already been mentioned but that’s all I ask.
Also, is it just me, or does Colby always look confused when Mac is teaching him?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I had a dream last night
that I was there for jim edmonds tryout that he requested. they were in Busch II and mark mcgwire was hitting fly balls out to him in left (kind of disappointingly, they were all popups), and marty mason was pitching BP to him with Luddy shaggin balls in the OF. the first couple, edmonds totally went Jacob Paterson on them to left field. then for some reason ludwick was playing really far in (near the infield) and shaded toward right center and jimmy lined one deep to the wall and ludwick ranged all the back and made an over the shoulder catch before running into the wall (i guess my brain was Really excited about edmonds). then when it was over, carp came out and high fived luddy and they were all buddy-buddy and it made me laugh, but i knew no one around me knew why i thought that was funny.
and i was behind home plate and making sure i got pictures to post on VEB…
R.P.O.F.Y.M.
If I ever have a dream that's even tangentially related to VEB
I may have to put the computer away for a few weeks
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 19, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Really
the only dreams I usually remember have nothing, and I mean NOTHING to do with baseball in any way, shape or form. But I’m usually hitting a homerun in them :)
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 19, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
i don't think
i’ve ever had a veb related dream, but i have had internet related dreams. doesn’t bother me much. i also have dreams about people i know in real life and dreams about thoroughly bizarre shit
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
monks dressed as the Monkeys
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
or are they saiyans
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Likewise
I had a dream in which Edmonds showed up in the dugout during the first game of a doubleheader, wanting to play. By the second game, he was on the roster and in uniform. He caught a foul ball…he had come out of the dugout to catch it. Apparently in my dream a player on the bench catching a foul ball counts as an out.
Wait, John Mabry isn't with the Cards anymore?
I like the avatar
In fact, having a Scotch whiskey-based avatar pretty much fits perfectly with a friend of mine named Zack. So double awesome.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
The only even vaguely Cardinal-related dream I think I've ever had
was of the last few scenes of Akira being played out in Busch Stadium, years and years ago. (The old stadium, of course.) Well, it was sort of Akira, and sort of me hanging out with my four-year old cousin and a couple of my stoner buddies. You know how dreams are.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 20, 2010 3:35 AM EST up reply actions
Joe Posnanski post on the St. Louis Baseball Writers' Dinner
It is a must-read. A snippet:
Whitey Herzog on his one power hitter, Jack Clark: "I could tell blindfolded when Jack Clark was taking batting practice because the others sounded like they were hitting underwater."
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I may be looking
more forward to the White Rat’s induction speech than any other in my lifetime.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jan 19, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
i love reading about mr denkinger
I remember crying myself to sleep that night. it still hurts a little. but it’s part of history now and denkinger seems to be a noble dude.
i was listening to the dinner's broadcast on ktrs last night
whitey was giving him some crap, but in a lighthearded way. said something about buying him a braille watch.
Gems of Slightly Lesser Water? Brilliant!
I do love me some Joe Posnanski
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 19, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
My Favorite Bit:
Pitchers and catchers report in less than a month.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
My Colby Projection
260/339/455
475 ABs
16 HR
70 RBI
I’d take that from his 23yo season, assuming similar or better defense. Count me among those who think that he will become an All-Star caliber player, but I think it will take some time. He is essentially learning how to become a major leaguer at the major league level; it is easy to forget that he barely had 800 ABs in the high minors, and that at age 20 and 21.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jan 19, 2010 12:22 PM EST reply actions
That is almost a dead ringer for mine
I projected:
.263/.342/.443
"I learned a long time ago if you keep checking your stats all year, you're going to end up in the toilet." - Chris Carpenter, 2009.
That's pretty much my slash line projection, but add just a tiny bit to each one.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I went higher on the average, lower on the OBP, higher on the SLG!
basically I think he’ll be better at everything than you do except taking walks, and overall slightly lower in value. I think you’ve got him at something like a 13% walkrate there, which seems a little optimistic to me.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
I decided halfway through
that all of my projections should end in a “2”
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
More ABs is my guess
Assuming LaRussa doesn’t fall in love with Jim Edmonds, I’m hoping Colby gets at least 575 ABs. My slash stats are pretty close to those though.
"But as the leadoff guy that inning, my job is to get on base and let guys drive me in." - Albert Pujols 8/20/09, base-clogger.
Looks like Luddy
no contract terms yet though
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Heyman tweets that he’ll receive $5.45MM next year after earning $3.7MM in 2009.
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 19, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
i wonder what the club's projected numbers for skip and ryan were.
could this possibly open up another $1-2M in the right scenario?
the $7MM
was assuming something like $6MM for luddy and $2.5 for skip, i think
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Heyman tweets
That it is for 5.45M. I can’t link b/c Twitter is blocked at my work.
"I learned a long time ago if you keep checking your stats all year, you're going to end up in the toilet." - Chris Carpenter, 2009.
pwned!
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 19, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
sorry
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 19, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
No worries
If you start taking things personally on the internet you are in big trouble.
"I learned a long time ago if you keep checking your stats all year, you're going to end up in the toilet." - Chris Carpenter, 2009.
it will be a bargain
when he has another ’08
even if he’s only somewhere between ’08 and ’09 is a good price. he was thoroughly league average last year, so 5.5 is fair. if he outperforms that in any way, then gravy
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 19, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
You optmism:
…when he has another ’08
I greatly admire your optimism and hope that you are correct.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
he won't
i do think he’s better than the numbers he put up in ‘09, though. which weren’t bad by any means
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Not bad, which isn't to say they were above average.
I agree with you. I expect something better than 2009, but not as good as 2008.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
in that case, it's a good deal
I tend to agree with the party line here, he’s probably above-average, maybe even verging on a 3-win player, going forward. 5 mill for that is pretty good value. His BABIP and HR/FB rates were down on his career rates last year, and with a bounce back to career norms he’d have hit his career wOBA more or less on the nose (.357). I’m guessing he’ll be back around that level next year.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
How much
are his 21 outfield assists over the last two years worth? He’s got a freakin’ cannon. He only has an UZR of 1.7 and .5, respectively, over the last two years. But his arm would seem to make him a definite plus outfielder, and in a spot where many teams hide a bad defender.
“I play right field, it’s an important position ya’ know…”
i dunno
but i’ve always liked him in the field.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 20, 2010 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
UZR theoretically takes arm into account
the last two years, according to fangraphs, Luddy’s been roughly -9.5 runs in “range” and +10.4 runs with the arm.
Seems reasonable.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
Yep
that really is a superlative score for “arm” as well. It’s pretty rare to see OFers score more than 2 or 3 runs above average per year. 5 runs/yr above average = accurate cannon. That pretty much tallies with what my eyes tell me, I think.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 21, 2010 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
Really?
Does your opinion have anything to do with the fact that Peter Gammons reported that the Red Sox and Bay had a four-year deal worth $60MM agreed to in principle until Bay’s knee (un)health caused the Sox to walk away?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Brutal
They should’ve washed their hands of Frenchy…
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
Omar Minaya laughs at your "logic"!
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
so are you guys telling me
it is definitely NOT 5.45M
/kicks Heyman in the junk
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 19, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Jason Bartlett just got $4M for his 2nd year of arbitration
That has to be a blow to Schumaker.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
2nd
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/1/18/1256015/where-those-last-dollars-go#29055438
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
Not a bad guess
Vivaelpujols estimated 9 days ago that Luddy would get 5.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
given how arbitration works
he was pretty much certain to get something in the 5-6 range.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
I beat you by two weeks!
Wait… I don’t think that’s winning.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 19, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, but it will be winning
when you get through in May two weeks earlier!
by ArkansasTravs on Jan 20, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
I wish I still operated in semesters.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
you could operate however you'd like, just there doesn't appear to breaks nor anything different
between one semester to the next
But, that is what I want.
I want to work from August to December, get a holiday break through mid-January, come back to work until March, have Spring Break which allows me to watch the first two days of March Madness in their entirety, go back to work through early May, and then have Summer Break to get a part-time job and watch baseball…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Work in the education sector!
I got Dec 24 – Jan 3 off as paid leave and while we do have work during the summer, it’s soooo laid back because there’s nobody at the districts for us to talk to. Pretty nice, although it’s funny thinking about getting three weeks vacation and then remembering that just a year ago I got three weeks for winter break, a week for spring break, half a week for Thanksgiving, and an entire summer off.
Then again, I’m not missing the homework, that’s for damn sure.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
started las monday
already wrapping up my first programming assignment
i will be in school until 2016 – fml
Rasmus 2010:
516, 73, 19, 64, 271, 348, 465
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
Mac and Cheese
Has anyone here watched Foster’s Home For Imaginary Friends (on Cartoon Network)? If you haven’t but enjoy childish/silly things as I do, linky. If you don’t, I will never be able to explain the next few lines to you.
put-a-pup put-a-pup put-a-pup put-a-pup PKEW-PKEW-PKEW put-a-pup put-a-pup put-a-pup PKEW-PKEW-PKEW-PKEW
NOW YOU’RE THE HORSEY!!!
i LIKE this game
At least the bunnies are on fire.
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
it was okay until they added characters like Cheese.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Is 3/22.5 for Huston Street...
really that much better than 2/14 + a pick for Valverde?
Street is better and younger than Valverde, but he was locked up for 2010. Basically this is a 2/15 for 2011-2012. The Rox don’t lose a pick, but they don’t gain one either for letting him walk after next year, and they take on the risk that he’ll get hurt in 2010.
If they really like him, why not pay him $7-8 mill for his final year under team control, then offer arb? If he accepts, great; if not, they get a pick. Worse case scenario they then have the money to overpay for someone like Valverde.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
I think it's arguably worse
given this is a guy who’s got a very funky delivery who’s had serious arm problems in the past that’ve given him both health and effectiveness issues. I think that’s a horrible contract.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
I will be very proud of Colby
if he hits 20 dingers and ups his OBP by about 20 points
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 19, 2010 2:44 PM EST reply actions
Wow, Carl Pavano got $7M one year deal from the Twins
Seems awfully high for a guy that posted an ERA over 5 last year.
4 FIP and 199 innings?
We just paid Brad Penny 7.5M + incentives for less than that. Brett Myers got 5M, Pettitte had a similar season and got 11.5M, Randy Wolf got 3/29, seemingly all the relievers got paid. This isn’t out of line with any of the deals and is probably preferable to most of them.
Not afraid to nitpick
i think penny was overpaid too
it’s also kind of the cards’ fault for setting the market that high
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I think they pretty much paid the going rate
All these guys are going in the range that makes the deals make sense.
Not afraid to nitpick
It seems like to me
Starters are getting about the average rate
Relievers are getting way over what they should be paid
And position players are getting shafted
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think he was overpaid
His projections are pretty solid
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
you think
he deserves to make more than rich harden? i don’t
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Yeah Penny to me is less of an injury risk than Harden
Cardinals seem to never go for the high risk and high reward guys either
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
carp
wasn’t particularly high reward when the cards first signed him
he had some decent seasons early in his career, but when the cards signed him, he had been mediocre for several years running. carp is the main reason DD has the reputation he does, i imagine
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 20, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
I would say that Dave Stewart
is the main reasons Dave Duncan has the reputation he does today.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i'm trying to see
where his big jump in numbers are. he obviously won a lot more games after going to the As, but for the most part, his FIP remained solidly within the 3.5-4.5 range. not that that’s a negligible difference, but chris carpenter is absolutely DD’s masterpiece. he turned kyle lohse into a perennial cy young contender
that said, i’ve also wath carp pitch a lot of games and the only thing i know about dave stewart is what it says on his FG page
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 20, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
i mean
in two years, carp went from a 4.95 FIP to a 2.90 FIP. the only other year he had been below 4, was ’04, his first year with the cards, where he clocked in at 3.85
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 20, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
and 3.44 is his highest since then
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 20, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
so was it dave duncan
or the guy who fixed his labrum in 2002/2003?
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
what are you drinking this morning?
he turned kyle lohse into a perennial cy young contender
???
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
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by mattyfrommo on Jan 20, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
you're right
he was worse than lohse
his FIP the three years prior to st louis
4.95
4.61
5.58
and he didn’t even pitch in ’03!
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 20, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
oh, you misunderstood me
not literally. i was comparing pre-cards carp to pre-cards lohse
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 20, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Pavano is a long, long shot to put up a 4.00 FIP and 199 innings in 2010
and I say this as a Pavano fan. We’re payinng for next year, not this year. Penny is a better pitcher than Pavano by pretty much any sensible measure. I’m glad we got him for a tiny bit more than Pavano made.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
Just noticed he wasn't a free agent
He accepted arbitration.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah...
he was better than his numbers appeared, so it made sense for him to come back, put up better numbers, and try again next year.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
What everyone above said
Plus, he’ll only be helped by the addition of Hardy at SS for the Twins.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
Wow
I’m amazed he got that much after going to arby. I thought he’d struggle to get more than $4m (which I’d have loved to have signed him for). I was beating his drum earlier in the off-season as I thought he’d be severely under-rated; he had great peripheral stats this year but was really unlucky to post that bad ERA. Maybe the sabr message is getting through to even the arbitrators?
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
I have heard arbitrators now little about stats
They like avg and rbis
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
that's what i thought
which makes rich harden/brad penny money for a guy who’s missed most of two years, and then put up a 5.00+ ERA with a pretty uninspiring win total all the more odd.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 20, 2010 8:55 AM EST up reply actions
Once you put up 200 innings
You’re no more of a risk than Harden/Penny. And again, 4.00 FIP, we’re past looking too much at ERA and W-L for projecting performance on a one year sample…..yes, he’s not projected to be as good as that next year but he doesn’t have to be either to be worth 7M.
Not afraid to nitpick
it certainly looks like we're getting 50% more pitcher
he may win a blue ribbon at the state fair
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"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jan 20, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh Brother
The Cubs, Dodgers and Cardinals are among the teams still monitoring the progress of left-hander Mark Mulder, one major league source said.
I saw that.
Let’s sign Mulder, Sheets and Gagne and thing of how good we were in, say 2003. when I first typed this sentence, I typed “been sheets”. I made myself laugh.
Hmm...
Ben Sheets in 2003: 11-13, 220 IP, 157 K, 4.45 ERA, 3.98 FIP
Can we have bizarro time-traveling 2004 Sheets (2.65 FIP, 10 K/9) instead?
(Although I would certainly take 2003 Cy Young Winner Sub-1.00 FIP Eric Gagne.)
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
well than lets get him back on the stuff
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
this is a meme I can get behind.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
No, obviously
He wasn’t hitting any homers, therefore he was not using steroids. Duh.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
Fox sports?
though maybe they’re monitoring him to be sure we can hit lefties…
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
No to Mulder
Didn’t we learn three years ago?
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fool me once...
hell, can’t be any worse…can it?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
you can't get fooled again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w55rdInhdqg
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 20, 2010 8:56 AM EST up reply actions
Colby at Dinger Camp
Gotta love it.
My Colby projection was… well dammit I forgot to write my exact values down.
It was something along these lines: 525,81,22,84,.265,.345,.435
More dingers. Taught at Dinger Camp, of course.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 19, 2010 3:34 PM EST reply actions
sorry if I missed it...
but didn’t (isn’t) been sheets(courtesy of WyoCardsFan) throw(ing) for teams today?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
y'all know I'm against this whole exhibition game at Target Field thing...
but @#*%)#$ CHEESE CURDS!
PORK CHOPS ON A STICK. JUICY LUCY BURGERS. MURRAY’S STEAK SANDWICH. wild rice soup, yummy. North Shore Creamery sundaes.
WALLEYE ON A STICK.
Twinkie Town caught this one. HFS® !!!!!!
oh, and they’ll probably top that all off with beer from the microbreweries.
sorry, I… I’ve been to that state fair, and they’ll be serving a lot of the favorites. Someone tell Colby not to overindulge.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
no word on the deep fried candy bars, though.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
hfs, is that for real?
are they dipped in some batter?
corn dog batter encased snickers? aaaaaarrrf!!
deep fried candy bars are awesome
there’s a chance they could kill ya, but awesome nonetheless
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
the real reason state fairs are only once a year
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Haven't had any of these..
twinkies, candy bars, pizza, etc., but this past year at a couple of state fairs around the country (Texas for one, IIRC) they served deep fried butter. Yes, I said that correctly, deep fried butter. I’m not sure I even want to see that, much less eat it.
by ArkansasTravs on Jan 20, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
that tells me just about everything I want or need to know about Texas
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
you need to go to Glasgow
they literally deep fry anything. You can take any food stuff into a chippy and they’ll mostly do it for you on demand.
Deep-fried pizza and deep-fried battered Mars bars (basically chocolate, nougat and tons of caramel) are a speciality too. On the downside, the life expectancy is about what you’d expect in the typical sub-saharan village…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
"The Van" by Roddy Doyle put me off chip vans forever.
if you don't know what is wrong with me, then you don't know what you've missed. - macmanus
long life is seriously over-rated anyway
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
as the old vulcan adage goes,
“live short and fuck around”.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 20, 2010 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
That's why they have magnums
I’ve got my magnum condoms, I’ve got my wad of 100s; I’m ready to plow.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Stupid Mechanic
I went to get my car inspected. Everything went fine and picked it up. Driving on the highway noticed my hood was shaking than out of no where it popped up. About gave me a heart attack. Quickly pulled over and put the hood down. They didn’t even close my fucking hood on my car.
Did it spring the hinges or anything?
I’d still call and raise hell, even if it didn’t.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i'd be wondering what else they didn't do
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Yes. You need to bring the event and your anger over it to their attention.
A similar thing happened to my sister when she was in high school. But, instead of her hood flying up, a front wheel fell off. You see, they were giving her new brake pads, but did not put the lug nuts back on. The lug nuts were still in their garage. Needless to say, my mom flew off the handle. She got a bunch of free oil changes or something. I don’t think we ever used them, though, because how could you trust your car—and your livelihood—to that establishment again?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I had a shop not put oil in my car
when I took it in for an oil change. Whoops. Bye bye engine. I got a new engine put in it, but that car was never the same after that.
Now with extra feisty!
I was 17.
Mom didn’t push the issue with the shop b/c she’s a pushover so she and I paid for a new engine. It just never worked right. The idle was all effed up and no one could fix it. It also started doing weird. things, like accelerating on its own. That probably would’ve happened anyway, but it was sad
Now with extra feisty!
Wow.... I work in the industry and
I can’t believe that. Unfortunately things like that sometimes happen, but we’d be on the hook for replacing that engine. It wasn’t your fault that they F’d it up.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I had a boyfriend who was a good mechanic.
He was foggy one day and let someone drive away without putting in more oil. He ran after them and caught them before they left the lot, though.
Now with extra feisty!
i had a boyfriend who was a good mechanic, too.
he sucked, but it sure was nice not having to worry about my car ever. it wasn’t until we broke up that i realized how fucking expensive it is to fix even the simplest thing.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by "sucked," i mean he sucked at life
but not at being a mechanic.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
I have a Honda.
And I love it. But it’s a ’98 and stuff still happens. A rear main seal replacement set me back $1000.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Yeah, but
How many ’98 Fords do you think are still on the road?
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 19, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
exactly.
I’m not complaining. I love my car and it gets 38-42 mpg. I’m just saying, when you live with an ASE mechanic, a rear main seal costs about $150 in parts and the labor is free.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
ya...our labor rate is insane...
$96 an hour, and that’s here in BFE. Metro areas are getting somewhere around $120 or more per hour. Average rear main job is probably 7ish hours….adds up quick. A good extended warranty is usually a great idea.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
yeah I would have gotten a warranty when I bought the car
if I hadn’t been living with a mechanic at the time. that guy continues to ruin my life, it’s amazing.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Yeah, fuck that guy.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
i hate to throw a wrench into this guys, but
aw screw it
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 19, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
if you don't mind me asking, were'd you go to school?
i’ve still got that career path in the back of my head & i didn’t like cbus state out here
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Ha....
School has helped me squat in this job. I’ve been slinging parts for 15 years now, started while I was in college. I’ve got about 130 credits, and no degree. I’m thinking about framing my student loan bill so I have something to hang on the wall.
Anyway parts counter lead to a shot at management at one of the local dealerships, and I’ve been managing a dealership parts dept for 5 yrs now. My dad taught auto mechanics and welding, so most of my automotive knowledge was home schooled, I guess you could say.
If you get into parts, try to get on at a dealership. The aftermarket is crap paying, and most just don’t give a rats ass about you.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
ah there it is
i know squat mechanically about cars. i can change oil, filters & that’s about it. no one ever tried to teach me how to work on them, and from what i’ve found if you want to be in this part, you have to have that knowledge from a young age. so i’m not really focusing on it anymore, but i guess it’s a fall back now. i really have no idea what i’m going to do with my life
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
If you have a basic knowledge,
or can fake it a bit, and can sell, look into Service Advisor positions. They pay well, but are stressful by nature (it’s all about producing numbers), and you are dealing with customers who are already stressed and have to drop large quantities of cash that they either weren’t planning on, can’t afford, or assume you are screwing them.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i used to be in car sales
and i helped out the service advisors whenever i could. i felt so bad for the good ones, and hated the ones that did everything they could get get every penny out of someone. i don’t think i could do that
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
i got that a lot
which is why i don’t do that anymore
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I know some dealerships around here that charge $140
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
we get charged $150+ for our cars
thank goodness for warranties
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
NEVER
buy a warranty from one of these companies that call or send you something (US Fidelis I’m looking at you.) Just an FYI.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i used to do warranty administration work
Most people don’t realize these companies are simply resellers. It is not like they are selling their own warranties.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
most extended warranty
companies are the bane of my existence.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
or you just have to deal with crappy warranty companies?
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
I argue with them
over how much they tell me they will pay for my parts.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Here is a Fidelis example:
We quoted out replacing a radio, they approved the quote and authorized the work. After the job was complete, they informed me that they would only pay X amount (whatever it was.) HTH can you operate that way?
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
The warranty industry in general needs major reform
It so little regulation and is a business to go out of business every couple years. I heard US Fidelis tried to start their own warranty company. I thought they were just reselling other warranties mostly though.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Ya they're doing their
own now, and I am so far not impressed.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i have a '93 ford tempo
with just shy of 250k on it. runs just fine. and it’s pretty classy. when i drive this thing, i’m practically stepping over pussy to get to pussy
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 19, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
speaking of sales, anyone else watching
the barrett-jackson? kind of boring so far. but of stupid mini two seaters getting all the money.
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
mlb....eckersley, sutter, and rollie
being interviewed by costas
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yeah I love my Infiniti
I planned on just driving it tell it fell apart. But it has been solid with no real problems. Still going strong at 165K
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
02 Infiniti G20
made in Japan. Concur about dependability. It’s almost at 100,000 and I’ve only done the routine maintenance. I think I’ll be able to drive this thing til at least 200k if necessary, maybe even 250.
I don't think I understood people that constantly want a new car
I don’t think I could even choke down buying a brand new car
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
I think they are the same people
who bought twice the house they could afford…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
i agree with you
brand new is a waste
buy sth older that retains its value for less – bmw, etc.
i must be raking the cash like it’s the hollidays to even consider buying a brand new vehicle
there's nothing like driving home a new car
i just love that, it’s one of the few things i miss from my car gig. i always got to drive the newest & the best on the lot. but i love cars like no other so i’m sick like that.
the best thing to do it buy a car 6 months after the new model hits the market. that way it’s got around 5-10K on it & it’s already taken the biggest deprecation hit. it’s still “new” & has all the warranty on it, plus if your credit is good, you’ll get a good loan. i could go on & on about this, but i digress. i really did love my job, but i just couldn’t take everyone hating me & thinking i was a crook & the hours sucked & i had no life, yadda yadda yadda.
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
if you can find the right used car lot
and convince them that one of their best customers is married to one of your cousins, they’ll pretend to hook you up.
then you buy the car that is most likely to break down, and do everything you can to run it in to the ground, within a week at the very most. destroy that car.
call the dealer up, tell him he sold you a piece of shit and you’re going to tell everyone he screwed you. within a week you’ll be driving out of the lot with the car you really wanted at 60 cents on the dollar.
My Tranny is starting to slip
I would like to get at least 200K miles on my car
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Heheh
Tranny
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 19, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
Probably just needs more time to get used to the heels.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 20, 2010 3:37 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
My Honda is 9 years old now.
I’ve gotten new batteries, tires and and brakes in that time.
By the time my LeBaron was 9 years old in 02, I had replaced everything but the transmission and the engine (never did replace the broken convertible engine, actually). And the engine cracked two years later.
Toyota is pretty much the same
But when things start to go wrong (however many years in), lots of things continue to go wrong.
Not afraid to nitpick
Lucky you, Effer.
I like my Honda Civic. It just wasn’t quite as reliable as I’d expected.
Now with extra feisty!
it should of been under warranty right
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
i hear ya
My first car was a 1979 BMW 318i. Horrible car. Brakes went out all the time. Went through like 7 master pumps. My engine was made out of cast iron and in winter would do nothing when I started it. Literally if I floored it when I first started it. It would not move. But only 49,000 miles on it.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
LeBaron is like most unreliable car ever
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
I've heard Jaguars are pretty unreliable also
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 19, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
most MPVs (is that what ya call them in the states? the different names for car types can be quite confusing) are pretty bad too
my dad used to work for a peugeot garage. French cars are pretty shit.
I have a 2001 seat leon (spanish car, built by (and basically out of) volkswagen) which is showing its age a little but has been a pretty decent car for me.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 20, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
This reminds me
I have been watching a lot of Top Gear lately. When they talk about a saloon (i’m sure that’s spelled wrong but that how it sounds) are they talking about a 4 door car or what we refer to as a sedan in America?
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
I would say saloon = sedan more or less
a saloon car is one that has two rows of seats, 4 doors, and a separate boot compartment (trunk) that usually sticks out at the back (like a typical BMW 5 series, say). It’s a slightly out-dated term in the UK now, but it is usually used in contrast to a hatchback, which is a similar sized (or sometimes slightly smaller) car with a boot (trunk) that sticks out less and is flat, with a door that usually opens out more backwards rather than straight up.
Hatchbacks usually have the whole rear end of the car open up (incl. the window) whereas saloons generally do not. Also, hatchbacks usually have rear seats that fold to allow the back to be used for storage. All small cars in the UK, and some medium-sized ones, are hatchbacks. An example would be the BMW 1 series (the 3 series has both hatchback and saloon variants). I think they’re generally less common in the US as you don’t really have what we’d term “small cars”. The Mondeo is about the 4th or 5th smallest Ford version here, whereas it’s about the 2nd smallest in the US, I think.
An estate car is a hatchback-style car with a much longer & taller rear section, that can sometimes seat an extra row of seats or much more luggage space. i think the american term might be “station wagon”.
I think nowadays the terms used for cars in the UK tend to be more size-based; city cars (smallest), superminis, small hatchbacks/small family car, saloon car, excecutive etc.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 21, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Thank you very much
that was quite informative.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
I was going to make a joke about user error if it had been a manual.
and then beg you not to stab me.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
so your gf drives a honda, playing workout tapes by fonda
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
why didn't anyone continue this?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I suppose no one's anaconda really wanted to.
Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.
by the red baron on Jan 20, 2010 3:38 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Well I do say,
when it comes to the fairer sex, the periodical Cosmopolitan has little to do with my selection!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
finally, a musical i can get behind
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I didn't know it was here!
Or I would have.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 20, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
My wife inherited a 1992 Dodge Spirit
It’s still doing pretty well. Her Dad took awesome care of it.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I had a 91 Spirit, my first car.
Engines in those things suck. I had it fixed, and it still effed up. Grr!
As of now I have a Ford Thunderbird, only thing that is bad about it is it’s a gas hog.
what the hell is CAR?
is that some kind of fielding graphic saber bullshit?
i’m gonna ride my horse down to the wizard and see what he has to say about all this nonsense.
i just hope he doesn’t try to treat my dysentry by doing backflips on my stomach, again!…
all i can come up with is catching against replacement players
or cardinals against replacement players
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
That's nuts
they have insurance for that kind of thing, so there’s no effing way I’d pay for it myself.
Hell, you could have gotten the insurance claim check and bought yourself a totally different car.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Car and insurance were in my mom's name.
And I was a minor. Anyway, she wouldn’t listen to me. I was pissed at them and pissed at her.
Now with extra feisty!
No, I mean the SHOP has insurance for that kind of thing
Your insurance wouldn’t cover it unless you had comprehensive on the car, but the shop should have reimbursed you in full for the damages they did to your engine. Generally, the insurance company will contact you about the claim and then give you around 80% of the value of the car and take possession of the vehicle and cut you a check.
At least this is my experience, since this happened to a girlfriend of mine back in college. I’ve never raised so much holy cain about something that didn’t happen to me. Suffice to say — I don’t go to Jiffy Lube anymore….
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Ah.
Well, my mom didn’t even tell them. And she works in the insurance industry. Just major stupidity on her part.
This was a mom-and-pop garage.
Now with extra feisty!
i also imagine they'd probably be liable if you chose to sue...
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 20, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
Right, and if the shop is big enough (mine is)
we don’t carry insurance for that, we just absorb them as a cost of doing business and fix our fuck up. Well the service dept does. I run the parts side, so I don’t get screwed to bad.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
that happened to me.
thing cracked my windshield and busted up my side mirror. it was not a good day. Unfortunately for me, I have no mechanic to blame.
Some people have their own bowling ball and their own bowling shoes and no friends.
You must be the change you wish to see in the world.
i had that happen to me once
but i went all the way up and shattered my windshield
i had just been in a minor accident and broken the latch
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Damn, that's a nice contract King Felix got
a 5yr/78M deal for a 23 year old
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Hmm, so someone coming out of college would make roughly 40-45 right?
I guess 78M is ok….
Good Deal for the mariners though.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
40-45k*
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
So....King Felix just signed an extension...
and he'll be 28 when it expires
and he’ll be looking at 200M after that. Poor bastard.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Felix doesn't have to survive 2 more years to secure his kids' kids' kids' kids' kids future though
Not afraid to nitpick
sounds pretty monarchist to me
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
~35M in the bank will do those sorts of things
Depending on how many kids he has→how many kids they have of course.
Not afraid to nitpick
A lot better than signing a 31-year-old with a history of shoulder injuries to a five-year extension.
I’m not a fan of giving pitchers five years, but, if it is going to happen, I’d rather do it to someone under 25 than over 30.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
yeah it's way better than the Lackey deal
from a $-to-production standpoint, but the deals weren’t made in a vacuum, the circumstances were very different.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
Right.
But also, in my opinion, from a health point. I think it is a better bet (although, still not necessarily a good bet generally) that Felix will be healthier from Age 23 to Age 27 than Lackey will be from Age 31 to Age 35.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I think it's a fair deal all round
I don’t think the Ms got a massive discount, tbh. I don’t think you can put this in the Jack Z Hall Of Fame just yet – it’s a fair enough deal for all parties.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Have you seen FanGraphs yet?
I don’t even want to look.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 19, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
I was more talking about Dave Cameron's predictable reaction to the deal
I haven’t read it yet, and I really want to kick the habit of going to FanGraphs. Can someone summarize for me?
by vivaelpujols on Jan 19, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
ahh my bad.
the article is pretty optimistic, but he brings up the risk involved in signing a pitcher long term.
I am the Batman
it is pretty much what you think they would say
Not a bad deal but always risk in long term
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
still, I don't think I would've signed the deal
he was going to make a lot in arb and when he hits the market he’d easily get a CC deal.
I am the Batman
You'd be a fool not to take that kind of guaranteed money.
Set. For. Life. And that’s before hitting FA when he’s 28. It’s a pretty good deal for both sides.
Now with extra feisty!
at 26 though you'd be given so much more
I mean look at what Arod got at his age. This was not factored in my opinion though.
I am the Batman
Felix has already earned 5M so ~2M in the bank
And was due another 10 next year. He was already set for life by most standards.
Not afraid to nitpick
Even by those pretty much
He was guaranteed another 10 and even if he blew out his shoulder Mark Prior style, he’d still manage to pull in another 2 or so. Not saying it was a bad deal from him, but I certainly understand holding out for the monstrosinsanity contract in order to be able to wipe with spider silk.
Not afraid to nitpick
What can you do for your family with $80m that you can't with $5m?
seriously, you can put a good wedge in the bank for each of your kids, you can send them all to the best colleges that money can buy, and you can live perfectly well on that sort of money (although I suppose if you never ever work again, $5m will only buy a “pretty nice” rather than “mega rich” lifestyle for you, long-term).
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 20, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
seriously?
What can you do for your family with $80m that you can’t with $5m?
Five mil ain’t what it used to be. $80MM is fuck you money. $5MM? After taxes? That’s upper-middle class money, at best.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 20, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
No...
I’d put $5 mill in the middle-middle category… possibly lower-middle, right above hobo-boxcar.
THESE GUYS ARE JUST TRYING TO FEED THEIR FAMILIES!!!
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
you kidding me?
he could easily spend $5MM in his lifetime. $80MM guarantees that his kids and maybe even his grandkids will never have to work
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 20, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah..
and we all know that kids who never have to work for anything always live happy, well-adjusted lives.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
Way to take it off the rails!
That has nothing to do with anything.
Anyway, all I’m saying is that I understand Felix’s desire to sign that contract. I would’ve done the same thing. And so would most of you.
Now with extra feisty!
Yes I agree...
I would’ve signed instead of going year to year.
The money thing is confusing. It seems like $80 million should solve all problems, but really the only useful thing to do with it is start a foundation.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
I agree that it's a ridiculous amount of money.
But some commenters are acting like they would’ve held out for more. I think that if you’re a pitcher – especially if you’re a pitcher – you take the guaranteed money.
Now with extra feisty!
Players (and fans)...
treat it as a way to keep score. Even Pujols the other day was quoted as saying that, basically, his $100 million deal sucked compared to Tex and ARod, but he wanted to remind everyone that he signed during his arb years, and not when he was a FA. It was as if he had to make excuses for why his contract was smaller than someone else’s…
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
There's definitely a competition among players.
Plus, I’m sure the union encourages them to take the biggest contracts possible. Albert also pointed out that the Cardinals did him a favor signing him to a $100M deal when he was 3 years into the league.
Now with extra feisty!
salary competition is everywhere
i would have expected the deferred money on holliday’s contract to be more so they make at least equal cash
i don’t think albert cares too much. even though holliday currently makes more everyone knows exactly who’s “protecting” whom
especially
if you’re a 23-year-old pitcher under team control. that’s a hell of a deal for a guy at the level in his career. what other comparables do we have? pujols?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Are you saying that you would turn down the guaranteed contract
that would pay you $80MM or so over its duration in favor of $5MM because some children who are the spawn of multi-millionaires turn out to not live happy, well-adjusted lives? I would jump at the chance to provide for my family in such a way. And I’d set up a trust that pretty much forces them to do something with themselves before getting anything.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
No see above...
People can do whatever they want with their money. I did attend Ladue High School though (I’m from the ghetto of Olivette), I went to a ton of Burroughs and MI/CD parties, I was friends with people all over that area, and imo the money is a problem more than it’s a solution.
But, again, people have the right to be rich.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
Technically
It’s more like 6M guaranteed in the bank with a chance for CC Money vs. 40M in the bank. 80M in the bank is cooler than 40M.
Not afraid to nitpick
i can't help but think of zambrano.
still a good pitcher, but overpaid.
not sure that i have an intellectual justification beyond that they’re two pitchers starting very young, clearly very talented, getting a ton of money and a lengthy contract very young.
if you don't know what is wrong with me, then you don't know what you've missed. - macmanus
I think Felix is a lot better than Zambrano
And is younger than when Z signed the big deal.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 19, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
Good thing Timmeh L
is getting that arbitration raise. He can use it to pay his fine.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Some things that matter to Tim Lincecum, in descending order of impact on his daily life
1. Throwing a baseball in a crazy way
2. Gettin’ blazed
3. What kind of cereal to have around to acquiesce munchies’ demands
4. Takin’ a poop
5. That itch on his left arm
6. A $513 dollar fine
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
wow
giants sign molina to a one-year deal
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/01/giants-resign-bengie-molina-to-oneyear-deal.html
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Surprised the Mets didn't sign him
Not a bad one year deal
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, good deal
totally didn’t see it coming, though
i thought they were all set to hand posey the job
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
bit of a waste of money IMO
they could’ve got someone who actually fills a hole for them, I dunno, Branyan at 1B (instead of overpaying a guy who’s no real improvement over Ishikawa $3m (Aubrey Huff) and a guy who’s probably not much of an improvement over just giving Posey the job $5m+). Or someone with a genuine impact bat in the OF. For a team that short on offense and with a couple of really poor players in a number of positions, shelling out $8m+ for the most marginal of improvements at 1B and C seems stupid.
I suppose I could vaguely swallow the argument that they want to keep Posey down another year as he doesn’t look quite ready, and put his arby clock back to keep him for more of his peak years, but I’m still not sure I like this deal at all. Gregg Zaun’s probably just as good and he signed for a lot less than Bengie did.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 19, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
i guess i didn't realize
posey was projected between 2 and 3 WAR
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
If Posey is that good, then it's worth the money to keep him in the minors
Even Sabean is smart enough to learn the arby-clock lesson Lincecum taught him. 10 days cost Sabean $10MM.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 20, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
it;s funny
i criticized Sabean the other day over that, but at least he kept Lincecum down long enough to keep control over him for that extra year. Unlike what we did with colby.
Unfortunately, he’s good enough that there’s a chance he’ll make more in arb that last extra year than he would have made as a free agent…
Going back to the game theory thoughts, Lincecum maintains that he won’t sign a deal because he “wants to go year to year”. Does any of that have to do with a perceived slight at being kept down long enough to have the giants “win” that extra year of “cost controlled” player? Would it have been better for them to bring him up right away out of spring training, not irk him, and then lock him up greinke-style?
I’d love to know the answer.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
good work, Bengie
made the Mets wait almost all hot stove season. excellent.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Lincecum asks for 13, Giants offer 8
Truly disappointing. I was hoping he’d shoot for the moon.
Not afraid to nitpick
it is his first arb year, after all
can’t imagin him getting $20MM
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
16 would have made me happy
And really though, if he tells the Giants he’s asking for 16, don’t they have to make a better offer than 8?
Given Howard’s 10M number, I think he’ll get 13M easy with the back to back Cy Youngs.
Not afraid to nitpick
no shit
That is my thought also. Such a low ball offer
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
he will get 13
That seems like a low ball offer by the Giants. If it goes to actual arbitration. The arbiter just picks one not something in the middle.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
I bet he'll settle beforehand
If he isn’t interested in taking a risk in his offer number, I bet he won’t take a risk with this either.
Asking for 18 and Giants offering 10 would have been much more fun. And he’d be guaranteed to get about the same as what he’s going to settle for!
Not afraid to nitpick
I am not so sure he will settle
Majority of people do. But the Elite players seem to take their chance on arbitration. Arbiters are not exactly the greatest baseball minds either. Back to Back Cy Young’s speak volumes.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
so i filled out my thingy for the docs,
if none of the # make sence when dan adds them up you know who to blame
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
the massive curly fries post
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
DGoold on Twitter
Schumaker files $2.75. #Cardinals counter with $1.45. Was told this afternoon sides are closer than huge arb gap would suggest.
As soon as we figure out Skips arbitration
I will update the Roster and Payroll Matrix
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
it's the lifetime supply of batting gloves
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
what you talking about?
You could buy 2 taco’s from Jack n Box with change to spare
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
it's barely over $1MM difference!
what do you expect, schu submits 2.5 and the cards counter with 2.2?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
the big question: do they settle on $2M or $2.1M?
if you don't know what is wrong with me, then you don't know what you've missed. - macmanus
Ludwick's last year
$4.25M asked $2.8M offered $3.7M contract. Not quite the same percentage difference as Skippy’s.
Nothing wrong with that
Sucks for the poor bastards who are neither showers nor growers though
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 19, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
Not a shower
not a shower….you’re not an enclosed space with a nozzle that spurts hot water at you for the sake of getting clean….ok, I’ll buy that.
Ain’t the English language a hoot?
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 19, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
WWL seems convinced I should be panicked by Albert's "announcement"
Tell me what to think, VEB!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
that they're idiots? probably.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Go listen to the audio of the Q & A with reporters on the STL G-D webiste.
You’ll feel much better about it than you would after either (1) watching ESPN; or (2) reading Straussie.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
you should think
that it’s probably a bit too cold for shorts and a t shirt, but shorts and a sweatshirt should be just fine
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
it's true. I do think that.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
nah
check out the audio clip in the middle of the article and decide for yourself
wwl and strauss are trying to invent headlines
I know. just rolling my eyes.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
First of all
Espn is selling its soul praying that Pujols leaves for a bigger market.
Secondly, they keep saying he may leave after 2010, which would be difficult considering the Cardinals have a very low market option on 2011 that they will undoubtedly pick up.
You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all.
-- Earl Weaver
by Smokin Turkeys on Jan 19, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
even if (gob forbid) he had some kind of wild injury that meant we knew he was going to be out all of 2011, and knew this before picking up the opttion, they would pick up the option. or so i would think
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
we need to make our own unicorns
smaller ones
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I made my own!
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
by Taskmaster on Jan 19, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
HOOCHIE MOMMMAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
holy crap, there are SO MANY pictures of unicorns online it's not even funny
i guess Strauss has a huge following of artists..?
now i feel dirty
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Ben Sheets threw today
Most reports coming in so far seem to pretty glowing. Especially good about his curve which to me says he doesn’t have any ill affects from his elbow. Good velocity so far 90-91.
I don't think he is in our price range
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
I am not even sure he is in our price range
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
I assume Doug Davis
Who is pretty solid pitcher. Made 8.75M in 2009 so not sure he wants to take a pay cut from that.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
He has to!
Who’s going to pay him near that?
by vivaelpujols on Jan 19, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
Dude is model of inning eater
He is averaging like 190IP since 2004.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
yeah but Davis is a lefty
Which means we would not have to face him. That is worth like 3 wins
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't touch him with a stolen 10 foot pole
He’s completely lost the plate…
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
yeah i tend to agree that Hill's probably finished
I usually think any minor league deal is worthwhile just to see, but guys like Hill and Daniel Cabrera just aren’t going to ever come back to being productive major leaguers, i don’t think…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 20, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
isn't that what pineiro's problem was?
more or less?
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
No
Pineiro’s never had bad control. He’s always walked about 3 per 9 or so (from memory) and never got into the 5, 6, 7+ walks/9 that guys like Hill and Cabrera gave up as their careers were going down in flames.
Pineiro’s problem was just a complete lack of stuff, so, despite average control, his way-below-average stuff meant that he sucked. Getting that sinker going allowed him to improve both his control (as he didn’t have to nibble quite so much) and his ability to get GB (and therefore outs), so I’d say his problem is nothing like what happened to Hill.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 21, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
holy cow
i never realized how awful Hill’s control really was in ’08 and ’09.
Still, his curve was incredible at one point, and I’d love to see what Duncan could do with him.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
I agree he's good
But have you heard one whisper about him this offseason?
by vivaelpujols on Jan 19, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
ask colby?
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Jan 19, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fix sports
says Twins, Brewers, Mets and Nats are showing interest, but Brewskis are pushing the market.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 19, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
Sheets in perspective
career 115 ERA+ (86 W 83 L 3.72 ERA) Wikipedia says, with dry understatement, “hampered with injury problems throughout his career”
Sheets was worked hard when young – over 200 innings each year 2002-04, received 38.5 million extension, but hasn’t reached 200 innings since 2004 (although 2008 was close 198.1)
an incomplete selection of Sheets’ DL appearances:
May 28, 2005: Missed 30 games (viral infection).
Oct 2, 2005: Missed 33 games to the end of the regular season (back injury).
Apr 16, 2006: Missed 11 games (back injury).
Jul 24, 2006: Missed 72 games (shoulder injury).
Aug 29, 2007: Missed 40 games (right finger injury)
Oct 1, 2007: Missed the last 8 games of the regular season (hamstring).
Sep 27, 2008: Missed 7 games (right elbow injury).
2009 no season
2010 looks good in limited throwing
6ly, who among us would expect Sheets to pitch a substantial number of innings, or, for that matter, be able to contribute in September?
and he is angling for...
a Beltre-type deal. $10mill + incentives + a player option for 2011.
No gracias.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
Sheets is the Black Knight
from monty Python:
ARTHUR:
Eh. You are indeed brave, Sir Knight, but the fight is mine.
BLACK KNIGHT:
Oh, had enough, eh?
ARTHUR:
Look, you stupid bastard. You’ve got no arms left.
BLACK KNIGHT:
Yes, I have.
ARTHUR:
Look!
BLACK KNIGHT:
Just a flesh wound.
[kick]
ARTHUR:
Look, stop that.
BLACK KNIGHT:
Chicken!
[kick]
Chickennn!
ARTHUR:
Look, I’ll have your leg.
[kick]
Right!
[whop]
[ARTHUR chops the BLACK KNIGHT’s right leg off]
BLACK KNIGHT:
Right. I’ll do you for that!
ARTHUR:
You’ll what?
BLACK KNIGHT:
Come here!
ARTHUR:
What are you going to do, bleed on me?
BLACK KNIGHT:
I’m invincible!
ARTHUR:
You’re a looney.
BLACK KNIGHT:
The Black Knight always triumphs! Have at you! Come on, then.
[whop]
[ARTHUR chops the BLACK KNIGHT’s last leg off]
BLACK KNIGHT:
Oh? All right, we’ll call it a draw.
by madridbend on Jan 20, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Good article
Besides all the East Coast bias. I liked the results
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 19, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
How accurate is comparing Corky with CarGo
Has anyone looked at the similarities between him and Carlos Gonzalez in Colorado. CarGo was flat awful in his first month batting .210 through his first 70ab Tracy took a lot of heat for having him out there but by late July it was obvious why he had been the Walrus of the first Lego trade. Maybe Corbin will prove Tracy right that it takes about 1200 major league at bats before you really know for sure what you have.
Hey, tediously off-topic
anybody got the link to the auto-tuned version of the Rasmusgirl song? I need it for a school project*.
- - may not contain any elements of truth.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
this is true
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
youtubage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx10F4404R4
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 19, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
You want a cookie?
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 19, 2010 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
YESSS!!!
the 1:10 marker… that was the one and only Cardinals game I’ve been to.
I plan on more this summer.
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
I just had a fantastic idea
On MLB 09 The Show, you could change batter entrance music as well as homerun music. If they still have that in 10 The Show, I will be setting Colby’s music to Fire burning in the outfield.
You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all.
-- Earl Weaver
I met Casey McGehee today
had no clue who he was until after he left…he was a really nice guy…Can’t talk about the setting I saw him in due to HIPPA, but just let me say, he seems like a very good family man
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
well i guess its fiction then
because i don’t have proof
Hoping my reputation of not being a liar around these parts will be enough
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
don't believe Cody, he's using his real name
unless your real name is Volsn, you’re gold.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
this is VEB
that’s how we roll
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
oh, unless you're named Matt
in which case you’re credible, but also crazy.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
that's not his real name
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
he really is
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
That's what they all said
And I made them regret it. Yes, I did, didn’t I Charlie…
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Yes, you did, and don't call me Shirley, Billy
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 19, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
we've been through this before
there’s more friend, pal, buddy, sailor and cowboy coming
skip to what comes after
no
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
who?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Did you tell him his last name had two unnecessary letters?
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 19, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
McGeeheheheeeheee?
which one?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
too good to be true?
http://austin.craigslist.org/sys/1560834515.html
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
i went with 50
i’d be surprised if it’s even still available at that price anyway
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
rescued it from being ebay'd
http://i14.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/9d/80/9a49_1.JPG
Great couch.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 19, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Awwwwwwww....
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 19, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
I drink Sprite when my tummy hurts too!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 19, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
7UP
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I had a feeling you would like this pic.
it’s rather adorable.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
They really don't look similar.
AT least not in that picture.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 19, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
Eh,
I don’t think so.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 19, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
bizarro colby
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 20, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
rec'd because it's true
I wonder if that’s the same one who hacked Colby’s online stuff.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 20, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
The real OG!
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 19, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
From MLBTR
Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that the Cardinals are looking over Chien-Ming Wang’s medical history.
Jon Paul Morosi of FoxSports.com reports that the Cubs, Cardinals, and Dodgers are monitoring free agent lefty Mark Mulder. Late last week we learned that the Brewers were going to wait before deciding whether or not to offer Mulder a deal.
I think we covered both of those
I remember a whole bunch of Wang jokes, so it must’ve been VEB.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 19, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
I will freak the eff out if we sign Mulder.
the bad kind of freaking out. like swearing at random people, throwing shit at the walls, freaking out.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Jan 19, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
At least we won't be paying him $10M+
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 19, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
i would freak out even if Mulder was paying US to play here.
because then he’d be taking a roster spot away from someone who might actually be able to play baseball.
I feel really bad for the guy, and I’ve always liked him, but COME. ON.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
THIS
it’s time to enjoy your millions & the sunshine in zona Marky Mark
well, no sun now because it’s dark & raining. but you’ll see the sun before i do. so you’ve got that going for you, which is nice
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
by gdm426 on Jan 19, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HELL TO THE FUCK NO
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Heh
He writes left-handed.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 20, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
His right arm is to good for autographs....
he only uses that to strike motherfuckers out.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i had never seen it
but it is entertaining
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 20, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Are you sure?
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 20, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
really
has anyone actually seen Mark Mulder pitch?
by CodyG on Jan 20, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Heh. I'll rec that.
I did in fact see Mulder pitch in person. Friday, October 1, 2004, in Oakland against the Angels. He pitched 2 innings and gave up 6 hits and 4 earned runs. The A’s lost 10-0.
I kind of forgot about that in the weeks that followed because I was, for a few weeks, really happy, then really, really sad, and then kind of numb but with a newfound hatred for both Boston and Jimmy Fallon. Then, we traded for Mulder. And I went ‘Huh. Hope he gets good again.’
by peach concrete on Jan 20, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
I can't believe I was the first person to rec this
isn’t this just about the reaction ALL of us would have?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 20, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
i thought i rec'd it, man i'm really forgetting a lot of stuff lately.
and i cursed a lot in my reaction
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
this is tabloid-esque
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jan 20, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
Oh that boy should not be seen without a baseball uniform on.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 20, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
He usually needs a haircut but the suit makes it look like an even more dire situation.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
It makes Timmy's need of a haircut look like a dire situation.
Matt doesn’t need a haircut.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I followed
….I honestly sat there and tried to remember what ganster movie that pic was from…then I was like…that looks like Matt Holliday….Matt Holliday did movies? Then I thought to myself “that blonde last night….”
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
you sure that's not zombie timmy?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
he looks a little like michael jackson too
and yes, slooooooow news day
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
he also looks like he's about to kiss bill clinton
what a strange man.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
That was my first impression
ewwww, creepy.
by ArkansasTravs on Jan 20, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
timmay?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Timmy's been brewing his own "polyjuice potion" in the basement
Only the finest herbs
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Jan 20, 2010 8:27 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Very good comparison.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jan 20, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Agh!
Timmy looks like a combination of Michael Jackson, Alan Rickman, and Peewee Herman in this picture. His next contract should stipulate less weed and more haircuts and food.
by Mulliganstew on Jan 20, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
And he might need to wax his eyebrows
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 20, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
so ummm... question
if Mac did roids while it was not banned by MLB but it was still a federal offense and now the outcry to ban him from baseball
and Timmeh did pot while it was both illegal and a federal offense
→ should we strip Timmeh of his Cy’s and ban him from baseball too?
did he get a suspension for it at all?
by d-dee on Jan 20, 2010 9:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He was probably doing it in-season too
They can’t test for pot use. Maybe that’s why his arm never hurts, because he’s always high! Performance enhancer!
Not afraid to nitpick
no shit performance enhancer
pot makes you feel more relaxed muscle and mind
imagine the effect it would have on khalil greene or even on boog
Also slows your reaction time and kills your (or at least my) ability to focus...
Not afraid to nitpick
"I actually pitch better when I'm a little high"
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
like the Doc!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vUhSYLRw14
Dots Miller for HOF. 'cuz a name means everything!
Ever played Left 4 Dead
That game is one extended nerve wracking FPS. Fun but those zombies are scary fast.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
zombies should not be fast.
Werewolves are fast. Velociraptors are fast. Vampires are fast. Aliens are fast. Etc. There are plenty of fast creepy monsters, if that’s what you are looking for.
OTOH, Zombies are special- they should be slow, mindless, perseverant, and pervasive. It’s what they are about, and anything else is cheating.
Fast zombies are like “we wanted to do a werewolf movie, but we couldn’t afford the fake fur suits, so we did fast zombies”. Booo.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
I am a huge zombie fan
and I think there’s room in the canon for both varieties.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 21, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
this has to be a tongue-in-cheek comparison...
steroids change the competitive balance in the game by artificially increasing a player’s performance level. this is why everybody cares about steroids.
no one thinks using marijuana artificially improves a player’s basbeall performance, hence NO ONE CARES about players using marijuana.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 20, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
oh no
if we assume that Mac really took small amounts for health reasons and everyone is complaining that even if that didn’t increase his power, at least it kept him on the field to hit dingers so it was still a competitive advantage
then
a little joint to calm your nerves before you have to pitch to Albert Pujols also gives you an advantage because you’re e.g. not shaking while throwing the ball. someone with adhd like Boog could also be argued to profit from being calmer. or cocaine also gives you an advantage because it could possibly keep you more alert. see where i’m going with this – anything can give someone an edge
i’m just giving an example of how you can twist things to make them sound like you need them to sound. because as soon as Mac came out and said i only took a little to stay healthy and not gain power, they had to crucify him for something, so it was being able to stay on the field when others in the same situation couldn’t have.
i wonder what the length of Lincecum’s suspension would be, if they don’t just shrug it off
"Small amounts for health reasons"
McGwire’s definition of this term might differ from others’, such as an “FBI informant”:
The Daily News reported McGwire’s regimen consisted of: one-half cc of testosterone cypionate every three days; one cc of testosterone enanthate per week; the veterinary steroids Equipoise and Winstrol V, one quarter cc every three days, injected into the buttocks, one in one cheek, one in the other.
Testosterone cypionate produced quick results, lasted a long time and was used to gain strength.
The Daily News also spoke with doctor and trainers in the “steroid-soaked bodybuilding culture,” and they scoffed at the idea that McGwire was using anabolic steroids for healing purposes.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
keyword: assume
even if he was telling the truth, they’d still crucify him
if someone decides to go after Lincecum ot Mother Theresa the same way they did after Mac, you’ll see ppl suck all kinds of statements out of their fingers to prove a point, regardless of what the point is
i don’t care what was what, all i’m saying is, anything you say and do can be used against you (but if you’re on the east or west coast, you’ll get away with it)
I don't think that Barry Bonds has gotten away with much of anything.
I also don’t think that Jason Giambi “got away with it,” either. The big, big difference is that McGwire is a former player who confessed during the offseason at a time when baseball news has slowed to an almost nonexistent rate. There is virtually nothing to write about, even with arbitration cases being taken care of right now. A-Rod, Giambi, Pettite, Franklin, Glaus, Ankiel, etc. all were exposed during the course of the season or Spring Training. There was an uproar, but it died off once baseball started and there games being played daily. By mid-season, I suspect that the McGwire steroids story will be dead, only to be resurrected come next year’s Hall of Fame vote. (Although, I could see Joe Buck bringing it up during a nationally televised FOX game.)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I anticipate McGwire being the Cardinal hitting coach in 2011.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Sorry, these are just fake issues in the steroid debate that misunderstand what the real issues are.
It’s a straw man (and a bad one at that) to compare steroids with marijuana use. It’s pointless and misunderstands and obscures why the steroid issue has become such a big deal.
Linceum won’t be suspended and on one will go after him. Why? Because no one seriously thinks marijuana improves performance. Winstrol (holy shit, Mac was taking the real-deal ’roids) does.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 20, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
logic is the same
they’re both prohibited (even though in different categories) and they both alter performance
I don't think it is a straw man argument
I think it is a good argument against people say he cheated because steroids are illegal. Even though they were not illegal under baseball rules. Than under the circumstances marijuana is the same. Illegal under federal law but not illegal under baseball rules.
Now you can say he cheated because steroids gave him some kind of advantage. But I think it is a flawed argument to saw just because steroids were illegal than he was a cheater.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 20, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Well
It’s illegal under baseball rules, they just negotiated the rules so they can’t ever catch anyone.
Not afraid to nitpick
Per MLBTR
MLB might see Edmonds play again.
Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports talked to Edmonds’ agent Paul Cohen yesterday. Edmonds is serious about playing in 2010. He’s open to a platoon arrangment, possible time at first base, and teams in either league. Morosi believes Edmonds will lean toward teams with smaller ballparks.
I want the Walrus back...
He'd be perfect for the Cards...
if he can live with 200 plate appearances. Doubt he’d get much more than that..
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
My emotions are getting the better of me.
I am becoming more and more hopeful that Jim Edmonds returns to St. Louis even though he is 40, has not played baseball in over a year, and probably cannot play defense all that well any longer. In TLR’s hands, could he put up a line similar to Ozzie’s part-time line in 1996 (when TLR relegated Ozzie to veteran part-timer in favor of Royce Clayton)?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I'm kinda the same way,
but I just looked at the CHONE projections for JED that VEP recently put up in a fanshot.
Ouch.
Albertofstan.
F* Yeah!
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jan 20, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
FWIW
The marcel projection is a bit more optimistic. I think he’s absolutely worth a shot as long as he:
1) Pinch hits
2) Starts 10 games at first to spell the Mang
3) Only faces righties
4) Never, or almost never, plays the outfield
I don’t think he’ll agree to this – he’ll want some starts in left, if not center (gasp!). If you look at his 2008 season, two things stand out: his defense utterly collapsed (by UZR and direct observation), and his bat was as good as ever. His OPS for the final four months were June 1085, July 969, August 881, September 929. And that was with some bad luck on BIP. He can still crush it…
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
2009, ya mean
I heard, no offers worthy of his skills, apparently.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 20, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
dunno...
Maybe he was demanding too much playing time.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
Wanted to play for the Cubs
Didn’t get any other offers he liked.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
but
he took that year off to get himself in the best shape of his life for spring training this year
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
I'mma let you finish, but JEd is in the best shape of all time. OF ALL TIME!
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 20, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Let's sign Mulder too while we're at it.
He pitched that awesome 10 inning game a few years back.
What? He hasn’t been a productive player for over 2 years. But that game was AWESOME! If we all just wish hard enough, I’m sure he’ll be great.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
Mulder...
has an injured arm and is coming off a prolonged period of suckage. Edmonds is more or less fine, and he was awesome last time he played.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
so you're voting no for a return of Hollywood?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I like the new Rob Rains story
on theG-D:
Cohen implied that Edmonds likely would be willing to accept more of a reduced role in St. Louis than he would in another city. With the Cardinals’ starting outfield set, if Edmonds were to return to the Cardinals it would be as a reserve outfielder and a lefthanded bat off the bench, a position which currently is open.
and it seems possible he has been getting ready for this for awhile
It was also in September that Edmonds had lunch with his Los Angeles-based agent, Paul Cohen, and said he was thinking about maybe trying to play again in 2010.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 20, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
if it sounds too good to be true than it probably is
and i really like the guy
but i doubt that TLR would allow it
I don't really expect it to happen
but I am not gonna let the dream (of my all time favorite Cardinal actually coming back) die, until it absolutely has to
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 20, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
While I am not in the
OMFG bring back Jimmy camp, is there a better LH bench option for league min out there?
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Joe Th...
no, I can’t even bring myself to joke about that.
Albertofstan.
F* Yeah!
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jan 20, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Geoff Jenkins and Brian Giles...
both had bad or non-existent 2009 seasons. Both are available for the league minimum, I would guess.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
I would say that if anything, they are
close to the same caliber. Neither player was ever as good as JEd, Giles is about the same age, while Jenkins is 36. If my choices were those three, I would still think that Jimmy is a better option. In 2008 he put up a combined OPS+ of 111, compared to Giles last year 55, and Jenkins (who was also out of baseball in 2009) put up 79 in 115 games in ’08.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
The problem...
is there is no where for these guys to play on our team. La Russa has said repeatedly that he wants hungry, rah-rah types on the bench, and I don’t see how a veteran of many years is going to maintain that when he’s getting a start a week (or less).
Maybe the best thing would be to bring in a truly ancient figure who can barely move, but can still swing the stick. Frank Thomas?
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
So, the answer to RiverRat's question is,
“No, there isn’t a better free agent LH bench option for the league minimum available.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
brian giles sucks, 6ly stop looking at the projected stats & watch him play people
he’s horrible & has been the past few years
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Gabe Gross probably won't get more than 1 mill now.
Realistically he’s probably better than Jimmy because his glove is so good. I think Jimmy could still be a better hitter, though.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 21, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
if only he batted rh.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
Jon Jay
I think everyone is vastly underrating Edmonds decline.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
by azruavatar on Jan 20, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I don't want to see Edmonds on the team.
It’s kind of odd that he can’t just call it a day. He should’ve taken a cheap, incentive-laden deal last year if he felt he had something to prove.
Now with extra feisty!
Honestly all this Edmonds talk is seriously starting to worry me
He didn’t even play baseball last year.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 20, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
The guy absolutely raked...
from June-September 2008. He was down for 1.25 years before that, but there’s nothing to suggest he can’t still hit righties.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
But I think their is plenty of evidence
To say he can’t field anymore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 20, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
honestly
Jay would probably be better, but there is a certain point on the success-failure scale where my enjoyment of Jim Edmonds playing as a Cardinal exceeds my enjoyment of the Cardinals winning 90 games instead of 89 (and yes, even taking into account the possibility that that game counts.) This is that point.
by DanUpBaby on Jan 21, 2010 4:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agree 100%
I think that’s kinda my reason for wanting John Smoltz again in 2010. I honestly think there are probably better options out there, but watching one of your all-time favourites finishing his career in the BOB just rocks.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 21, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
But wasn't TLR the one saying that the Cardinals wanted to bring him back at the winter warm-up?
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
I'm all for our rep as Saint Lourdes of the MLB
but for real, can someone tell the Cardinals that getting the band back together only works for the Blues Brothers? Old meat makes the man stew go bad.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jan 20, 2010 11:18 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
No new post today?
What gives? Where’s RR? The vote was heavily in his favor, it’s Wednesday….wtf???
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 20, 2010 12:05 PM EST reply actions
err
not RR, rb.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 20, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
It's just RB....
give it anywhere form another 15 minutes to 2 hours.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
RB being RB?
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Jan 20, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
it's still too early for a RB post
c’mon, you should know this by now.
Wednesdays are always the high anticipation for a new post until at least noon, that’s what makes them all the sweeter
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jan 20, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Nope
wasn’t aware of his time sched…or, hell, maybe I was, and I just didn’t remember…I am over 50, so my memory is pretty much shot at this point, but I also don’t check in here until the afternoon, usually. Today’s just a slow day.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 20, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Was he displeased with the poll...
80-20 for is damn good. Many a politico would kill for that.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
Fangraphs article on the 2006 Free Agent pitching class
Danys Baez – 3 years, $19 million. Produced -0.5 WAR.
Miguel Batista – 3 years, $25 million. Produced 1.3 WAR.
Adam Eaton – 3 years, $24.5 million. Produced 0 WAR.
Keith Foulke – 1 year, $5 million. Didn’t throw a pitch.
Orlando Hernandez – 2 years, $12 million. Produced 0.9 WAR.
Kei Igawa – 5 years, $20 million plus $26 million posting fee. Produced -0.2 WAR so far.
Daisuke Matsuzaka – 6 years, $52 million plus $51 million posting fee. Produced 7.7 WAR so far.
Guillermo Mota – 2 years, $5 million. Produced 0.1 WAR.
Mark Mulder – 2 years, $13 million. Produced -0.4 WAR.
Vicente Padilla – 3 years, $34 million. Produced 4.5 WAR.
Jason Schmidt – 3 years, $47 million. Produced 0 WAR.
Scott Schoeneweis – 3 years, $10.8 million. Produced -1.5 WAR.
Justin Speier – 4 years, $18 million. Produced -0.2 WAR, released in 2009.
Jeff Suppan – 4 years, $42 million. Produced 1.6 WAR so far.
Jamie Walker – 3 years, $12 million. Produced -0.6 WAR.
Jeff Weaver – 1 year, $8.5 million. Produced 1 WAR.
Woody Williams – 2 years, $12.5 million. Produced -0.1 WAR.
Barry Zito – 7 years , $126 million, full no trade clause. Produced 5.3 WAR so far.
Wow that is a serious amount of sucking
I read that....
13 of the total 21 WAR (IIRC) were produce by 2 guys, who got a ridiculous amount of money to underperform.
* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.
one of whom wasn't really a free agent
and the other got swine flu last year, and then beat us in the playoffs. ugh.
Oh, wait, you meant zito, not padilla. never mind. Though you could have said 17.5 of 21 by three players, i guess.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
Jason Schmidt
worst free agent signing of all time?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
remember how bad VEB wanted to sign him too?
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 20, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Proud to say I was not in that boat
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
Not outright.
Mo Vaughn, Mike Hampton (by the Rockies), Carl Pavano, Barry Zito, Alfonso Soriano, Carlos Silva, Tino Martinez, and more are in the conversation.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
No where near...
It was actually a pretty good signing at the time. Zito is still the worst ever.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
Mike Hampton is pretty awful
Zito at least eats some innings
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 20, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
The 4/33...
for Russ Ortiz is an underrated one. The Diamondbacks released him after one year and one month of the four years, they got -0.5 WAR, and the $23 million they ate was the most ever up to that time.
Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word
I don't know about that
47M for 43 innings on the mound has to be right up there.
They got absolutely no results for 47M
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Remember Kevin Brown's huge 7 year contract?
How many WAR out of that one?
Time for a new sig.
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 20, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
My question was:
Why did they limit it to just pitching?
Alfonso Soriano: 8Y$136M = 8 WAR 2007 to 2009
Gary Matthews Jr.: 5Y$50M = -1.1 WAR 2007 to 2009
Juan Pierre: 5Y$44M = 3.6 WAR 2007 to 2009
Julio Lugo: 4Y$36M = 1.6 WAR 2007 to 2009
Vernon Wells: 7Y$127M = 2.1 WAR 2007 to 2009
That was a pretty horrible offseason for free agents and big dollar extensions overall.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
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