Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Trent Richardson Interviews Fellow Brown Brandon Weeden

Resting the Starters

The local handegg team had their home opener yesterday, and against my better judgment I joined momup and one cousinup for a trip to the EdwardJones Dome, which is apparently so run-down and antiquated fourteen years in that the Rams will have to move unless St. Louis drops $500 million in a series of unmarked official Rams logo briefcases at the location of a new stadium, which will last thirty years now that stadia tastes have crystalized forever. The new jumbo-jumbotron is really nice, though, except that with the renovations I'm pretty sure there is no clock, digital or analog, visible from the seats. 

Anyway, football games always make me thankful for two things: 

  1. Teams that pass the ball downfield. 
  2. Baseball games. 
There is something wrong—and as an anthropology minor, he said, flashing a winningly academic smile, I am being willfully ethnocentric—about football games. The moment we parked the car was the beginning of a slow, steady campaign of weird disenfranchisement. At the door there were... not lines, but a slow-moving, uncertain mass of people in Marshall Faulk and Aaron Rodgers jerseys—everyone was frisked, because the Rams are liable, at any moment, to blow up the EdwardJones Dome and collect the insurance money.

A few minutes passed, and after the boiler room employees managed to shovel enough coal to get the dome lamps working we were all allowed in. Honestly, the next part shouldn't have surprised me, because the back story scored high enough on the NFL Stern Outrage chart, a few years ago, to reach the sports pages. But I was reminded of how different baseball and football are when I ordered a bottled water and it came back—silently—without its cap. Oh, yeah, I thought—I'm a felon here. 

I was reminded even more of how different baseball and football are when, one quarter into the game, I completely agreed with the decision to not give anyone in the stadium something small and aerodynamic. Losing fans in baseball are kind of pleasant and boozy; losing fans in football want to muster a small mob and seize control of the referees' locker room.

This whole off-topic digression is directed, finally, to the loud, grown man behind me: If you're completely sure that the fix is in, and that the NFL is mandating that the referees aid the Packers in beating up a team that is literally quarterbacked by a zombie, stop payment on the season tickets and go, with your preponderance of evidence, to the Post-Dispatch. Don't yell about it to the guy in full pads and Green Bay Packers Logo Dreadlocks. 

Now: House Money Baseball, where the lineups start to look like my Baseball Mogul teams.  

Star-divide

Now that they've clinched I can say it: I like watching infielders in the outfield, sometimes. This seems like a bad time to play anybody but Colby Rasmus in center, since he seems in need of as many Getting Acclimated at-bats as he can possibly get, but giving Holliday a day off with flu-like symptoms and simultaneously giving David Freese a look at third? Excellent. 

With the Cardinals' basic gameplan, in the last several games, centered around keeping Brendan Ryan from finding a way to injure another finger, we get an early taste of the pitched inaction of Hot Stove season. Take it away, Scott Boras: 

"I don't even think that is going to be an issue," Boras said. "Rick Ankiel is going to go somewhere.

"There aren't many players who can play center field with his kind of power and his kind of arm strength. ... There are going to be a lot of teams who look at Rick as a substantial trade over what they have."

I'll say this for Boras: those are indeed Rick Ankiel's strengths. This isn't like those McDonalds ads that tout their weakest attribute, their indie-tinged whole foods cred, instead of the fact that their chicken mcnuggets are delicious. But even Scott Boras, as he's saying these words, has to hear the rebuttal: you've just named both his skills; now what?

Ankiel's a better player, I think, than he's shown this year; his anti-tools have been out in full force, and he's spent much of the year in a bad situation for a guy who was both a starter and the feel-good story of the decade this time last year. The Pirates seem like a recipe for disaster, if only by default, but as the big side of a platoon on some contender that does not have Colby Rasmus on it he's a good bounce-back candidate. 

love the Ankiel story in all its highs and lows; his curveball will always be my benchmark for outrageous pitches, and his outfield fastball has, as expected, brought about a few of my all-time favorite defensive jaw-droppers. But the bat not cooperating has done something I wouldn't have thought possible this past February—it's made me at peace, barring some playoff heroics au Natural, with an offseason departure that's been inevitable since before he ever started slumping. 

Comment 852 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 28, 2009 6:25 AM EDT reply actions  

That fist looks scrawny

I suspect it belongs to a computer programmer or geneticist.

Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation

by azruavatar on Sep 28, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rasmus.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing that lifting

pipettes does little for their physique. Also, there was a geneticist in my circle of friends at college who was liable to slip through cracks in the floor.

Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation

by azruavatar on Sep 28, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like

The market inefficiency for genetics companies would be to hire buff geneticists. Hell, they could study the genetics of their workers to see who could put on some muscle mass. ’Roided out geneticists could wield bigger pipettes=more work done no? After all, they are in the business of selling genes.

Moneynucleicacid.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 28, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

it does wonders for their wrist strength, though.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

MOOAAAAARRRR MOO JUICE!

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's what pays the mortgage.

So I have moar enthusiasm than most.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about somebody who's studying both?

Oh wait, that’s me. Aw.

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Internet high five!

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, I read in your profile that you're in Boston

Are you at Boston U? I almost went there for grad school. Just didn’t have the finances. That would have been something.

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Average age of VEB's readership

less than 30? It seems like there are a lot of current or recently graduated college students in these parts, myself included.

Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation

by azruavatar on Sep 28, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm 25 FWIW

I’d wager that the average age is under 30

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit...

I’ve got six more month’s before I’m the average age of a VEBer…(under 30).

"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs

by cardzfanbub on Sep 28, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

somewhere in there...

I forgot the words no and longer.

"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs

by cardzfanbub on Sep 28, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

10 months left here

time for my centrum silver

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I left thirty about nine years back. As of yesterday.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sooo...

does that mean yesterday was your birthday? If so, then a happy belated birthday!

by cardsgirl95 on Sep 28, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you cardgirl!

Yes, that was a blatant and totally shameless plug for some B’day attention. You figured me out.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy Belated Birthday

enjoy 39 and remember that 40 ain’t no thang… it’s 41 that royally sucks

Don't ping my cheese with your bandwidth.

by RosevilleRedbird on Sep 28, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you

Thirty was pretty bad. I can’t think that any of them will be worse until I hit sixty.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh crap,

by extension does that mean I am in for it in a couple months with the big 51?

by ArkansasTravs on Sep 28, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

11 years.

Just felt like saying that.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Piss off.

Sorry, but that just NEEDED to be said.

(approaching thirty faster than is comfortable with)

I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!

by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

no you don't

you can’t possibly understand for another 8 years

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understood it needed to be said.

I thought what I said needed to be said as well.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm confused

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm closer to 30 than I am to the age I graduated high school

Lame

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

yay for young people!

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

get off our lawn!

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same

for those who care.

Really, the only bad part of bacon is that it makes you thirsty . . . for more bacon

by jacksonian on Sep 28, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm also 25

I understand you only use the term “Gen Y’ers” descriptively, and it is accurate. But I’ve always hated it.
Anybody know what the term “millenials” actually means, when it comes to describing an age range or generation or whatever? Does it mean you were born after 2000 or something?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so.

Just because I’ve read some sociological studies on “millenials” that discussed voting patterns. Obviously, to be voting, millenials would have to have been born before 2000. Not that I know the definition or anything…

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then I guess it means people who "came of age" at the beginning of the 2000's

Which would probably mean me. Damn it, another silly pop-sociology term to contend with.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Might as well add to the ranks.

25, also.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Sep 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

same here

Albert Pujols is ridiculous.

by stlhulsey on Sep 28, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Snowflakes"

I seem to remember a discussion last season where we were all slammed for thinking that we were special snowflakes. Does anyone else remember this? My takeaway from that discussion was that many of us were under 30.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Supposedly...

…Gen Y’ers refer to those between 0-30 years old, who run the economy (according to Hollywood and Wall Street); Gen X’ers (Woohoo!), are between 30-50 years old, and hate everything the baby Boomers and Gen Y’ers love (true dat!). And the Boomers, well, we all know who they are.

I don’t necessarily agree with all this stuff, but that is the general outlook of Corporate America. it would seem that Gen Y’ers, especially the younger ones (teens, tweens, etc), have moore discretionary income than anyone else, hence why everything (moovies, tv, moosic, etc) is geared towards them.

For a crusty old cow (43) like myself, it would be nice to see a tv show or moovie that does not involve a teenager, or moosic from people who actually know how to play instruments (as opposed to aping them via video games). But that’s just me…

;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

So does that make a

39yo like myself just an old piece of crap who needs to move into a nursing home? I hope not.

VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009

by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 28, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

To the death panel with this one!

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Death Panels, run by the Church of England

CAKE or DEATH?
Cake.
Well alright, then, you can go.

CAKE or DEATH?
Um, cake, please.
Very well.

CAKE or DEATH?
Cake.
C’mon, we can’t be giving out cake to everybody, we’re running low.
Well, can I still have some?
Here you go.

CAKE or DEATH?
Death.
Really?
No, I’m just kidding. Cake, please.
No, no, no, I heard you say Death.
No, I was just messing around.
Well, since we’re the Church of England, cake it is.

[NOTE: Not to be confused with the Crucifixion bit from Life of Brian.]

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Sep 28, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, we're all out of cake. We only ordered the two bits and we didn't expect there to be such a rush...

So my choice is “or death”???

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you

I didn’t bother looking it up, just riffing on the general theme. Normally my brother is so helpful in correcting in matters such as these, but he’s not paying attention to me.

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Sep 28, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

I doubt I have it perfectly. But man I love me some Eddie Izzard.

Yes, what is it Leftenant Sebastian?
Well, it’s just the rebels, sir… they’re here.
My god man!!… Do they want tea?
No, I’m afraid they’re after something more than that, sir. I don’t know what it is, but they’ve brought a flag.
Damn! That’s dash cunning of them!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude don't give them any ideas.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

So much for the judgment that baseball can't attract young people.

"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Musial

by vico on Sep 28, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

They just have to be young people who are smart.

So in other words, the sport is doomed. Dooooomed!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

8 of you

Will be needed to offset me.

by alberich on Sep 28, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love when we pry someone out

from the depths of lurking.

alberich -
UID: 147
comments: 37

Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation

by azruavatar on Sep 28, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have i really posted 37?

I’d have said about 5 …

Being a humble man (outside my own field), I come to learn rather than argue.

I’m also so much older than most of the people here I don’t write the language very well.

by alberich on Sep 28, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

UID

what is that? Should I have one?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 28, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are number 2111

(it’s your old school user id)

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

sweet

how does one look at that?

NVM, I see it now. I’m a moran!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 28, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

there sure seem to be a lot of morans on this site

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't let liam see this

he says there can be only one

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

step one in the art of stalking...

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

still not as old as I am

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

im willing to bet that is true

or at least they are the most vocal.

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 28, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

and by they i mean we

as i am 27

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 28, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

22 years old here

Where’s fang to pull down the average age around here?

by mojowo11 on Sep 28, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

I was just thinking — I believe DanUp is about my age. The fact that he writes so brilliant for a site largely full of people that are his elders and never disappoints impresses me. (And, of course, I should extend this to chuckb and baron, who write just as brilliantly. Thanks. [And also to lboros, if you’re out there — we still love you, you crazy old coot.])

Every once in a while I just think we should sit back and be thankful for this great community. I don’t really have anyone else with whom to talk intelligently about Cardinals baseball, so I don’t know what I’d do if this place wasn’t so shockingly, mind-bogglingly, consistently high in quality. I’d probably have to, I dunno, actually do work or something.

by mojowo11 on Sep 28, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I appreciate the kind words

Writing on a schedule is a lot more difficult than posting once a week whenever I felt like it was, but I’m hoping it gets easier sometime before I reach the ostensible average age of this site. Even if it doesn’t it’s been worth getting to be a part of this community, which is truly and inexplicably ridiculous.

by DanUpBaby on Sep 29, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll pull it down to our level too... 22 hurr.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

RIGHT HERE

though zoom zoom and rasmusgirl got me.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're 17 and 16 right?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Respectively, I believe.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

19 years and 4.25 months

suck on that.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm at MIT for another couple months (hopefully defending in December)

I’d be happy with your decision to stay in the south. I decided to come here over UCSD and have regretted the decision for 5 winters running.

by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

im sure the regret wont last once you have your

degree(s) from MIT…

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 28, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

i almost went to MIT for grad school

but i stayed in california for a girl (and to attend a better grad school, at least in my field) — and it was the best decision i ever made.

by djones9 on Sep 28, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, there are other VEBers in Boston?

holy shit, I thought I was the only one taking up residence in the center of the the axis of evil of the sports world. Anyone know if there are any bars in boston that cardinals fans tend to frequent?

by mattyp on Sep 28, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am the Card fan at the Uno's on Boylston

I live across the street. Unfortunately, they got rid of the MLB satellite package this year, so I ended up ordering it for myself. However, in past years, the Cards game was always on a couple of TVs there if I happened to come in.

I’m interested how you heard about that, considering it is basically just me, and occasionally this less-serious Cardinal fan.

by olddomination on Sep 28, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your solitary stand against the evil tide that is Beantown must be legendary

and is known throughout the city.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am in boston too

are any cards fans gonna meet up here for any playoff games? (hopefully well into the postseason)

by cardgirl on Sep 28, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I'd definitely be up for something like that

right now I’m limited to mlb.tv, so it’d be fun to actually meet up with some other cardinals fans and watch a game.

by mattyp on Sep 28, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok

when it gets to the postseason we can plan something (is it ok to do a fanpost in this vein?). in ‘06 a few of us VEBer’s got together for a few games, including the final WS game, and it was a blast.

by cardgirl on Sep 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not counting Card games I've been to at Shea/Fenway

I’ve only known two other real Cardinal fans in my life, so it would be a completely new experience to watch a game among other fans.

by olddomination on Sep 28, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know Jeff Roman lives in Boston.

I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!

by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed

though I think he has basically sworn off watching sports in Boston bars. I’ll try to coax him out some time this postseason.

by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uno's in Boston

Don’t know if the Uno’s near Fenway is the one on Boylston, but my brother and I ate there before catching a game there back on 6/12/2003 (that ugly extra-inning affair when Rolen busted up his shoulder; also our 30th birthday – not Rolen’s, he’s an Aries). I remember going there and eating their Chicago-style chili, which I thought was funny, because I live in the Chicago burbs and usually have their New England clam chowder.

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Sep 28, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm actually using the ticket stub to that game as a bookmark

By the 11th, most of the bleachers were Cards fans. Larussa was at the top of his game in that one, consistently walking Manny with men on to get to Trot Nixon, who kept popping up.

I believe the forgettable Garrett Stephenson started that one.

by olddomination on Sep 28, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

This post mentions it, but it must have been mentioned previously on VEB, cause I know the poster and he definitely didn’t have first hand knowledge.

by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The "Cards Bar" monicker I made up

When joking with my friend who is the bartender there if the Cardinals weren’t on one of the TVs. “What’s up with these Red Sox and New York games on? I thought this was a Cahds Bahr?”

But having two semi-regulars who are Cards fans probably does constitute a “Cards Bar” in Boston.

And no, the Uno’s near Fenway is not the one we’re speaking of. Nor is the one in Northeastern University. This one is the one across from the Lord and Taylor’s downtown.

by olddomination on Sep 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never been in the bar,

but that is, hands down, the nicest Lord and Taylor’s I’ve ever been in.

I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!

by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a shitty restaurant

There’s good music if my friend is bartending, they have a lot of tvs, nfl package…but unfortunately no mlb satellite.

And it takes me a minute to walk to.

by olddomination on Sep 28, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Always nice to have an establishment in quick walking distance.

Unfortunately, where I live, I have to get in my car to do anything. It sucks.

I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!

by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well this is a pretty awesome sub-thread

I dunno who’s fist it is. Thank google images. I recommend you have “safe search” on if you’re going to type “fist” into it, though.

I actually am a geneticist (which you might’ve already known) in the medical field (i.e. I don’t sell genes, I test them for heritable diseases), and I do have relatively scrawny wrists (I have to wear a wrist strap when I’m playing volleyball because I bust my right wrist about 9 years ago and it’s still a bit weak). I do go to the gym to supplement my pipette-lifting, however.

Also, I’m guessing I’m at about the mean age here – 29.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 4:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

who's = whose.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 4:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

A friend of my just got back from a conference in Cambridge (UK)

Genomics of Common Diseases, I believe. He said he saw some pretty impressive work on sequencing the exome of two parents and two children and nailing the genetic causes of Mendelian diseases in no time.

by brackenthebox on Sep 29, 2009 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your profession must have rooted itself somewhere in my memory

I don’t generally sling barbs at the genetics community but at the time, it seemed apt. Turned out it was!

Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation

by azruavatar on Sep 29, 2009 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Ank does catch on as a starter somewhere else

As awful as he’s looked and for how much I can’t stand seeing him play given his current sucking (not funny ironic ha-ha sucking, 50% of PAs ending in Ks sucking) and there being a clear ‘better than him at every aspect of the game’ option, I’m still rooting for the guy long term.

Strangely though I get a weird feeling he’s going to a chance in the postseason and run into a 784 foot home run at a big time. Gotta love being super biased. I’d settle for those 784 feet being spread over two HRs but my hopes aren’t high.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 28, 2009 6:32 AM EDT reply actions  

I really wonder what Rick could do

if he had a different hitting coach other than Hal McRae. Somebody to make Rick a more complete hitter (if that’s possible).

I think Rick’s best chance to have a longer career is to get out of St. Louis and learn a different approach at the plate, get a different instructor other than Hal.
Of course I would like to see what a lot of our guys could do with a different hitting coach. I know this sounds like I hate Hal McRae….I really don’t. I really respect the guy and the career he had with the Royals. But I am ready for a new hitting coach next year.

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Sep 28, 2009 7:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Disagree.

It’s skillset he is missing not a new approach. He swings and misses a lot. Yes he gets fooled like all other hitters but he swings and misses A LOT. That’s skill not approach. Good hitters can hit no matter the hitting coach. And you can’t tell me he isn’t taking extra BP or being coached/watching film right now. It is probably time to accept the fact that he’s not an everyday player. He will probably have a ok career as a platoon or 4th outfielder. Nothing wrong with that.

by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Sep 28, 2009 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I think the league has caught up to him

it does sometimes happen that a new player goes on a tear for 6 months or so, and then disappears off the face of the earth after all the pitchers and scouts work out what his weaknesses are.

I think he’s a reasonable bounce-back candidate next year but I’m expecting a bounce back to , say, a .750-odd OPS, instead of the .800+ we were all hoping for this year. I can’t really see him being an above average player in the majors going forward.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 4:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of it is just not being a hitter to begin with IMO

He hasn’t had the repetition (and won’t ever get that chance before his skills erode) necessary to be good at pitch recognition and that ultimately is his problem. . Plus he never even had the true progression up the minor league ladder to progressively build that skill up. Obviously when he connects the ball goes a long way but he just can’t make that regularly happen given his inability to control the strikezone/recognize breaking balls.

He’s seen something like ~5000 pitches in his professional career in 1800 PAs, Rasmus at age 23 has more professional PAs and he didn’t take 7 years off from focusing on hitting. Ankiel before this year’s disaster was a .250 ISO type hitter which is just absurd when you think about his career path. Gotta wonder had he been a hitter to begin with how good he could have been: .280 .380 .550 is hardly a stretch if you even marginally revise up his 07/08 numbers with the development of any semblance of plate discipline.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 28, 2009 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's a superb athlete

I tend to think you might be right about how good he MIGHT’VE been as a hitter.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 4:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have always had this feeling in the back of my mind

that somewhere down the road in his mid thirties,, Ankiel will be inticed by somebody or some organisation to go back to the mound.

That is really where he should be. What an effective loogy he could be…and he just have the maturity of mind at that time to do it. Shame it probably won’t be the Cardinals but that is the one thought that always make me hinge on the thought of giving up on Ankiel.

by ridgesee on Sep 28, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

correction

“might have the maturity”

by ridgesee on Sep 28, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

and less beef!

Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone remember John Nelson being called up in 2006?

I saw him in a highlight from that September on KSDK last night and couldn’t help to think he might be the most non-descript call up of all time.

And still… No Allen Craig.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 9:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Shortstop, right?

I barely remember it, and I barely remember him doing nothing!

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

not enough games left! Boog still has 8 fingers to go!

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 9:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Mateo reference in Miklasz's Rams column...
Still, unless you’re a hotshot prospect signed out of the Dominican Republic by the baseball Cardinals, you could see that Boller kick-started the Rams offense.

A bit much? Column

by dccardsfan on Sep 28, 2009 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Wait --
Still, unless you’re a quadriplegic trapped in a wheelchair due to Addison’s disease, you could see that Boller’s movement added another facet to the Rams’ offense.

Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation

by azruavatar on Sep 28, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

HFS ®

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

you want some plastic bags?

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still unless you’re a morbidly obese sportswriter, you could see . . . .

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 28, 2009 11:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Dear me

VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009

by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a House allusion

just so everyone doesn’t think I a meaner robot than I actually am.

Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation

by azruavatar on Sep 28, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

handegg.

it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie

by SleepyCA on Sep 28, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree on NFL fans

And if you ever want to meet some ugly, angry fans go to a ‘football’ game in europe.

by _pistol_ on Sep 28, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

it depends where you go, really

in England there’s a saying – rugby is a thug’s game played by gentlemen, and football/soccer is a gentlemen’s game played/watched by thugs. Although actually, England/Scotland might be one of the better countries to go in terms of a watching experience – actual crowd violence (which is still quite common in club football in Italy, Turkey, Poland, Germany and a few other places) has basically been completely extinguished in England since the 80s.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've seen green Street Hooligans

and that was made in 2005. I’m not fooled.
/I let Hollywood tell me everything about life.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 29, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

There is something poetic about the Rams' awfulness.

I kept becoming confused as I lazily followed the game on TV. At some point I thought I heard them announce that Bulger was warming up, making me think, “who is that other guy then?” No, it was Boller. The similar sounding name seems appropriate since apparently they’re doomed to lose no matter who is out there. One of their offensive line “stars” is named Incognito. Their third string QB is apparently named Null. You can’t make this stuff up.
Also, I had no idea that Leonard Little was still in football, let alone still playing with the Rams.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 11:01 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I like the poetry slam better
I’m not in a pennant race, but at least I have some pride. … When you go out there and you turn your TV on and watch stupid-ass football when those — football players don’t give a — about you, that’s embarrassing.

“We have how many games, seven games they have to put their — together. Because I don’t mind losing games. That’s part of the game. But when you lose games and you don’t even care about it, we’re going to have problems. … Getting your ass kicked like that, then all of a sudden you’re watching football games, that’s a bunch of —.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was one of the best rants ever.

The chair slam at the end totally made it.

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

U Thuink They're Bad?

Cleveland is even worse!!
:=8O

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

you all have no idea

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Redskins

’nuff said.

Proud sponsor of the Official 2009 StL Cardinal theme song: Reason to Believe

by gocards62 on Sep 28, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Football vs. Baseball -- In-Person

I’ve never really enjoyed watching a football game in-person, at the stadium. It doesn’t matter if it’s college or pro. However, I love watching baseball games in person. I can’t really put my finger on why this is, but this is my preference.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

I like both.....

As long as I have a vested interest in the football game, or it is the right “atmosphere.”

Matt Holliday. Nuff said.

by SoonerfanTU on Sep 28, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

my vested interest

in tonights game is a total score of 49 or more. Or one punt into the video screen

by ubeddie on Sep 28, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is just that majic sound of bat on ball and the sound of the slap of ball on the leather glove that make baseball so great.

The hawking of vendors help also. The atmosphere of a ballpark on a cool summer night can not be created anywhere else.

by ridgesee on Sep 28, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree...

I love a solid college football game in person… pro… enjoy, but not nearly as much.

by slash2049 on Sep 28, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love college football games.

I am not really a football fan but I love going to football games here.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Death Valley is a prettty awesome place if you're a Clemson fan...

still remember my school (UVa) being something line 0-42 at Death Valley ’till they finally won a game there. Ugh…

youneverknow

by floodOfLove on Sep 28, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd Moooch Rather...

…watch College basketball, especially in person, ESPECIALLY during Tourney-Time!
Go ’Nova!!!!!
:=8D

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

College Basketball is awesome.

It’s my second favorite sport. Not Pro, College. I hate Pro basketball.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Matthew, Mark, Lugo, and John.

by BVHeck on Sep 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dear 'Nova...

Sorry ’bout that…

Signed,
-Tar Heels Devotee

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, all the way to Detroit, huh?

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

GO TAR HEELS!!!

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

TAR!

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

gag me w/ a smurf

Please don’t mention those inbred fools from Norf Cackalackee. I’m a Virginia Cavalier guy, and expect us to be good sometime before the Cubs win it all.

youneverknow

by floodOfLove on Sep 28, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, after we've all died?

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better than Go Duke, IMO.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess

… in a lesser of two evils sort of way. Dookies are pretty annoying too, but at least they’re creative.

youneverknow

by floodOfLove on Sep 28, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

he probably just likes them because of Psycho T

he should be ashamed of himself. Mizzou BBall is almost back.

i love Duke too. between them, the Yanks & Cowboys, i’m surprised i’m still alive.

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've always been a big Mizzou BBall fan

and that game was awesome.

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I don't give a shit about Mizzou...

But nothing makes my dick hard like Memphis getting trampled.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think you're going to be, um,,,

not being able to stand in a crowd for most of the winter this year

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

They'll be okay...

But most of my disdain for them has been transferred to Kentucky, which already had plenty of my disdain. It’s amazing how quickly a Final Four team can come to be when you play by a different set of rules.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was in Panama for Spring break during that

That was a very expensive night.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 28, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate Duke.

I think you misunderstood that part.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, i got it

i know i’m a fan of the axis of evil in sports, and i’m OK with it

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

GO ZAGS>>>>>>

Boo ACC, BCS, etc.

"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR Passan

by RiverRat on Sep 28, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Oh you poor thing...

“We’re really good until we get to the 2nd round!”

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Considering where this program is

and where it was 10 or so years ago, I will take it. Also, look out for them in the next 2-3 years. Phenomenal 7 player freshman class, lots of international guys. They’re going to be a tough team for a while.
      Also, I’d put their OOC schedule this year against any Conference schedule out there. Mich St, Duke, Illinois, Wake, OK and Memphis. They aren’t screwing around.

"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR Passan

by RiverRat on Sep 28, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

gonzaga always has a stacked OOC schedule to impress the committee

because they know that once they get into their conference play, they simply blow through their schedule playing inferior teams.

looking at the games you mentioned, i’ll say gonzaga does no better than 3-3 in those games.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I'd take that....

The tough OOC gives them a back up plan for an at large bid if they happen to not win the WCC Tourney. I’d really like to see them move into the MWC or something, but the lack of a football program really hurts when it comes to moving conferences. NCAA should just move the BBall program into PAC 10.

"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR Passan

by RiverRat on Sep 28, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

notre dame did it

why not the zags?

"The field mouse is fast but the owl sees at night"

by pinkelposse on Sep 28, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand why...

the Pac-10 doesn’t poach BYU and Utah from the Mountain West. Both have very food football and basketball programs, plus they’d represent one more set of regional pairs to keep up that trend (USC-UCLA, Cal-Stanford, Arizona-Arizona State, Oregon-Oregon State, Washington-Washington State). I love that about the Pac-10.

But most importantly, you could split up the 12 into divisions and play a conference championship game in football, which is a straight cash cow. That was the major motivation for the ACC to expand. They watched the SEC and Big 12 cash in on that every year and they finally did the sensible thing.

The Big 10 could add a team and do the same thing, but it doesn’t seem like they want anyone other than Notre Dame, and that isn’t happening.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOOO ACC!

:=8P

Go Big East! Go ’Nova!
:=8D

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

the best sport to watch in person

has gotta be hockey, well with two equal teams. Although the keil/savis/scott trade isn’t even close to the old checker dome. I remember the loudest sporting event i have ever been to has in the mid 90’s at the checker dome for a blues/ red wing game. you had to yell at the person next to you. Loudness aside tv does no justice to a in person hockey game. post season baseball is better, but i have never been to a post season hockey or football game.

Also the stadium also helps, the ej dome is a piece of shit to the nth degree, i’d had rather watched a football game in bush II (never did). i’d watched the steelers play the oilers/titans in memphis @ the liberty bowl, and its rained 2 inches it was still a better experince than the 2 games if have seen at the ej dome. anyone who says baseball was better in the old ash tray known as busch II, than busch III, all i have to say is: what are you smoking and where can i get some?

"Chuck Norris CAN divide by zero"

by elirock83 on Sep 28, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

it looks like someone forgot about curling...

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 28, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i will stand up for curling

And say the one time I played, it was fun.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 28, 2009 12:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

But nothing is more stimulating

to the loins as womens beach volleyball

by ridgesee on Sep 28, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

After my own heart.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

how could sweeping ice

not be fun?

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 28, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hockey is pretty great

I definitely love Baseball the most on TV and in person by far, but Hockey is my second favorite sport to see. Hopefully I’ll get to catch a Blues game in Chicago this year. Tix at UC are so pricey though…

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Need to do the same

Still haven’t caught one yet in the 13 years I’ve been up here. You might see me there – I’ll be the non-descript white guy with the random polo.. Say Hi when you do. J/k … I bought a sweet personalized, alternate home jersey this winter and am looking forward to showing it off.

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Sep 28, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oooo

I like those 3rd jerseys!! I was at the Hawks Preseason opener this season. It was my first game at UC and I have to say I was kind of moderately appalled at the tradition(?) of clapping through the entire national anthem. It just seems like a dumb redneck thing to do, but then again these are the same fans that root for the cubs, so I guess it makes sense.

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ive only seen concerts at the UC

but it seems to me that there wouldnt be a bad seat in the house there for a hockey game

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 28, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

We sat in the upper corner

and saw everything. It was a great venue esp. for its age.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stadiums

I don’t really like the atmosphere in any of the newer stadiums I’ve seen any professional sport in. They don’t even approach the atmosphere of a Busch II, which shook when something amazing happened. Now, in the new, open designs, the collective noise of the hometown faithful seems to be lost to the open air. Comparing Mile High to the new corporate Broncos stadium, for instance, is worthless because there is no comparison. I just hope the Chiefs don’t get a new stadium.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they move from Arrowhead...

…there will be a literal riot. My KC acquaintances would literally lay down in the stands to prevent detonation.

VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009

by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 28, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I sold beer one year at Busch.

1983. I was working a couple jobs. In the evenings during homestands I’d head down to the stadium and sell beer, back in the days when they were longnecked bottles. Hard work, and pretty much of a drag since I always preferred to be watching the games, but I needed the dough. It had its moments. I was there the night Forsch threw his second no-hitter. I stopped selling entirely and watched the 9th inning from a box seat.

We were asked to sell beer at a couple preseason football games, too. I hated it. The tenor of the crowd changed noticeably between baseball and football. The people were more demanding, less friendly, in general more full of themselves. The atmosphere in the stadium was just different. It’s not all that surprising. The two sports have a very different feel.

by Youneverknow on Sep 28, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

what was your beer call?

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 28, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you know Buschy-Wooshy Beer Man?

I loved that guy.

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baseball is my favorite but I still like football.

I enjoy my Cardinal games and stuck with them through the bad and good times. Thank goodness there have been more good. I will do the same for the Rams. I miss the greatest show on turf but remember the Tony Banks days too. Hopefully I will live to see them turn this thing around. The guys that sit near us at the games are harmless. I’m used to their noise. Basically they are great guys

by momup on Sep 28, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

From Straussy,

in the game story:

With rookie infielder Tyler Greene playing his first professional game in center field and Mark DeRosa making his Cardinals debut in right field, the Cardinals fell behind 2-0 before rallying on first baseman Albert Pujols’ three-run double for a brief lead.

This sentence about sums up the months of September during the TLR Era, doesn’t it?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Time for another Kuh-razy Sub-tember!!!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

But we usually read endless stories

about how TLR keeps the team “focused”. Whatev.

Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation

by azruavatar on Sep 28, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He does that all year.

Keep everyone sharp and ready to contribute. It worked great with So…

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thursday's lineup

should be interesting. 12:30 pm start after a night game. I heard Glaus might be ready to play.

by ubeddie on Sep 28, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 idle thoughts -

1) Perhaps tony looks at tyler as a possible bench player next year. Both rasmus and the next in line prospect (Jay, presuming sugar shane does not impress anybody) are LH. If tony wants a RH to take the odd game in CF v. a LHP, there are crazier people to put there than tyler.

2) Rick Ankiel to the White Sox? Gut feeling.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 28, 2009 11:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Ankiel in Toronto Next Year....

is my gut feeling. Well, one of four, anycow…

;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

OOTP Baseball 10

I traded Ankiel to Toronto in my first season at the helm. Don’t remember who I got for him (I make a lot of transactions), but he’s doing fairly well (now with Cincinnati in 2012).

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Sep 28, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought that was" Sugar 2" Shane Peterson?

As opposed to Sugar Shane Robinson? Or do I have them mixed up now? Gah.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah peterson is with the oakland org.

Robinson is still with us but doesn’t seem to have impressed anybody.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 28, 2009 12:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He's pretty small...

the David Eckstein of outfield prospects.

by yonjuro on Sep 28, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you're saying he does all the little things right,

plays 110% every moment of the game, and can’t hit, throw, field, or run very well?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry...

forgot to add, without the ‘grit’.

by yonjuro on Sep 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

good at fielding and running.

You still can’t make a career out of that,

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 28, 2009 5:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I actually wonder, if Mather doesn't make it back to some semblance of his former level,

whether we’ll have to go outside the org for a RH 4th OF who can play CF next year. It’s kinda annoying that the three best OF prospects who might make it to the show in the next 3 years (Jay, Henley, Jones) are all southpaws. Rasmus should play every day, I suppose, but I still feel that our ideal bench OF bat would probably be right-handed and capable of playing CF. I’m not sure Allen Craig is that guy.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kinda makes sense...

I know Kenny’s expressed reservation on passing up Dye’s option.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Permission to use this as my new sig?
Anyway, football games always make me thankful for two things:

   1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
   2. Baseball games.
DanUp

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

sweet thanks!

You’re the best DanUp!!

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The biggest Rams fan I know

was born and raised in NewYork. All of my friends from St. Louis choose another football team to cheer for if they cheer for one at all.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

one of those ppl

but growing up in the late 80’s/early 90’s there wasn’t a football team, and i couldn’t bare routing for a team in arizona. lots of family from pa, steelers pretty blue collar it works for me. just my non-rams reasoning

"Chuck Norris CAN divide by zero"

by elirock83 on Sep 28, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

But the team that should be here is in Arizona!

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 28, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

(And that team was from Chicago, iirc.)

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 28, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

EXACTLY

that’s i never pulled for that team & i never will

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

NLDS Game 4 (if neither club sweeps)

Do you start Lohse or Smoltz? Lohse appears to be regaining some of his ‘08 form and will be under contract for tens of millions of dollars for three more seasons. Smoltz in the ’pen is palatable, but shouldn’t TLR use Smoltz out of the ’pen before the second week of October to make sure that this is a viable strategy?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

if Smoltz can be used out of the pen

then i am all for Lohse starting a couple games. If Smoltzy can’t handle throwing on back to back days or even every other day then i say let him start. Unless we are facing the Phillies; too many good lefties.

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 28, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely Lohse...

…so we can benefit from mooore innings with Smoltz in the ’pen.

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would hope the answer is neither (nlds that is)

with the right days off TLR shouldn’t have to use either one and that would be how i would want it.

"Chuck Norris CAN divide by zero"

by elirock83 on Sep 28, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh for crying out loud.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a losing battle, Alex.

Just accept it.

I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!

by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

KABLOOEY?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tony's Jedi Mind Tricks

I watched on TBS and loved as I tuned in and Buck Martinez stated in all seriousness,
“Despite clinching, Tony LaRussa is still going with his “A” team today." I thought really? Martinez repeated it several times. Then they did live interview with Tony wherein he stated that this was all the starters except Holliday. Again, really?

When did Freese become the starter at 3b? When did DeRosa become a starter in RF? And most of all, since when is Tyler Freaking Greene the starter in CF.

I really didn’t care what the lineup was, but lets not pretend that was the typical starting lineup for the Birds.

And gee, wouldn’t Allen Craig have looked pretty good in LF for that lineup?

by OCCardsFan on Sep 28, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Allen Craig would have looked great in LF.

The national broadcasters are not very good. They often make statements about clubs and players that are patently false. It’s frustrating. ESPN’s are the worst about doing this, and, since Buck used to call games for ESPN, I’m not really surprised that he would call a lineup with a SS making his first MLB start in CF an “”http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=a-team&docid=1316302290953&FORM=VIRE#" >A Team."

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Link fail

It was to the A-Team intro.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well....

it’s ‘a’ team, just not an “A” team…
:=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

Touché

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the record...
They often make statements about clubs and players that are patently false.

Mike Shannon does this, too. I usually just shake my head and chuckle a bit…it’s usually later in games when this happens.

"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs

by cardzfanbub on Sep 28, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

"...later in the game..."

Hmmmm. I wonder why that could be.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably just a coincidental thing...

he’s even more enjoyable after a lengthy rain delay.

"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs

by cardzfanbub on Sep 28, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

they really aren't national broadcasters

buck calls O’s games & that other douche calls the brew crew games. he was so obviously biased it wasn’t even funny. 6ly, i can’t stand that douche.

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

same guys, different positions?

Lugo – usual position (starts against lefties)
Ryan – usual position (starter)
Pujols – usual position (starter)
Ludwick – LF, not RF (starter)
DeRosa – RF, not 3B (starter)
Freese – 3B (not a starter)
LaRue – C (yadi’s status?)
Greene – CF (not a starter)

Freese replaces Holliday and moves DeRosa to RF, moving Ludwick to LF.

Greene replaces Rasmus in CF, because the kid still hasn’t earned a starting position. (he needs to keep the fire burning in the outfield)

so in TLR’s eyes, that was his A-team minus Holliday

Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9

by STLRegalia on Sep 28, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It looks to me like he's trying out some

different ideas against left handed starting pitching, and we’re going to see a lot of that in the playoffs, mind you.

If you put Holliday back in the lineup, I think you get the same lineup only with Ludwick in CF and Greene on the bench. Freese is much better defensively than DeRosa is at 3B, DeRosa is a solid if unspectacular RF, and Ludwick can hold his own in CF (In fact, he’s probably better than either Skip or Ankiel in CF, imo). If Freese can hit while playing at 3B, then he becomes the guy they put on the postseason roster, leaving Troy Glaus off. But you have to see if he’s going to hit before you can do that — it’s pretty obvious that Glaus isn’t hitting.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Sep 28, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right.

I firmly believe that lineup you descirbe—Holliday in LF, DeRosa in RF, Ludwick in CF, and Freese at 3B—could very well be penciled in for the next regular season game versus a lefty starter.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this is a very good idea as well

It’s obvious that neither Ankiel or Rasmus can hit left handed pitching, so it makes more sense to shift things around defensively to get someone who might fare better (Freese) in the lineup.

To be totally honest, I’m not sure why Ankiel would even be on the post season roster. You have DeRosa, who can play the OF corners, Schu and Ludwick can man any of the OF positions, and you have a better bat, imo, in Freese to face LH pitching. He doesn’t take good AB’s late and close, he doesn’t do well pinch hitting, so I see no reason to carry him when you don’t have to.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Sep 28, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the subject of Rasmus,

I wonder how to go about fixing him against LH, or is this going to be his Achilles’ Heel.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

His career minor league platoon splits are nowhere near as bad as this season.

So, there is hope that he could improve moving forward.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn't look that lost either

Not that I necessarily put much stock in that, but when he’s facing even tougher lefties, he doesn’t “look” as bad as Ank/Dunc have this year, so I feel that there’s hope.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

For that matter,

I don’t think that Khalil or Thursty should be on the postseason roster. As far as I’m concerned, Ankiel, Khalil, and Thursty can watch the games at Brian Barden’s house. After all, if we win, they’ll all get a ring even if they don’t get a champagne bath.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't thank me.

Thank Rob Neyer, or, as I look at the Fanshots bar, our prolific fanshooter Yadi2Second.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do a lot of shots.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

wild turkey?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would think Y2S is more of a jello shot guy

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

reading my profile, are you

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

at first I thought it was cotton candy and pickles

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like sour. sweet tooth will get me into trouble, though.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

They could have a four-man champagne man stew

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

math problem

exclude all those guys and the NLDS roster ends up having 14 pitchers. From what I’ve read, the Cards are planning to carry 14 position players and 11 pitchers into the NLDS. The Aug 31 25 man plus DL had 14 position players and 14 pitchers. The Cards would have to DL someone to make any other position player eligible for the postseason. And the players union won’t look to kindly on phantom injuries to Thursty or Ank. Kbot and Glaus are another story.

So IMO the choice is four from Ankiel, Thurston, Glaus (or dl sub 1), Kbot (or dl sub 2) , Welly, Thompson and Boggs.

by ubeddie on Sep 28, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK,

I would go with Glaus, if healthy, Boggs, Allen Craig, and Ankiel, in case we need an emergency closer in Game 7 or something.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

sidebar says...

Glaus may be ready to resume play. I hope it’s one of Freese or Glaus that we take to the postseason, and JT gets omitted.

"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs

by cardzfanbub on Sep 28, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buck Martinez

At least he has an excuse…. He does not cover the Cards.

I did not get the TBS game being from Iowa I had to watch the game with Rick Horton and Jay Randolph announcing. I wish I was able to watch the TBS game.

Jay Randolph is absolutely terrible. I honesty don’t know why he announces games anymore. Joe Morgan is honestly better than him. Randolph is so confused it’s not even funny…

by ICbirdfan on Sep 28, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was that the FS Midwest broadcast?

In Des Moines, we used to get the Sunday games back when the St. Louis CW affiliate carried them. Since the St. Louis NBC affiliate carries them these days, we no longer get them.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

No it was the Channel 5 broadcast....

FS Midwest does every game except Sunday games. News Channel 5 in STL does those games and I have a local channel that must pick up the News Channel 5 game.

Rick Horton is not bad, but Jay just makes listening tough.

by ICbirdfan on Sep 28, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

But

I do like Horton when he does games.

by saladdays on Sep 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

There seems to be a lot of anti-Ricky Horton sentiment out there

But I don’t mind him too much. It could just be that it’s by comparison to Dan n’ Al and Randolph.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Ricky Horton.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spants had the best description of Rick

Basically, he says as much dumb stuff as Al, he just says it pleasantly and with a boy next door grin, so you don’t really notice it.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

ankiel

Does anyone here really think that boras would say anything else about ankiel? He’s his agent and wants to make as much money as possible for ankiel, as well as himself. I really wish ank the best of luck next year as i see little to no chance him being back. He just seems to have fallen off the mountain this year, to find pitches to hit, i keep wondering why anyone throws him a fastball anymore. I look forward to some of the youth to take his spot and do a better job

"Chuck Norris CAN divide by zero"

by elirock83 on Sep 28, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

OT: Adam Dunn watch!

Dunn has seven games to hit exactly two home runs. If he hits EXACTLY two homers, he will have his fifth straight year with exactly 40 homers. And that, my friends, is awesome.

by mojowo11 on Sep 28, 2009 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Adam Dunn...

if only he didn’t hate baseball..and America.

(J/K, that would indeed be awesome.)

by cardsgirl95 on Sep 28, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's incredible.

The odds of four seasons in a row with exactly 40 HR, let alone, five, has to be almost infinitesimal.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The odds would be ridiculous...

unless he’s a quitting, baseball-hating quitter, who quits trying to hit homeruns once he reaches 40 for the year. We know he doesn’t play for love of the game, he probably just wants the personal fame and glory of achieving such a “rare” statistical feat. He probably rolls his eyes a lot and makes rude gestures during the National Anthem.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Motivation

Because he hates baseball, he does it for the stat heads who can punch it into the spreadsheets they have saved on the computers sitting in their mother’s basements. He doesn’t do it to help win games or anything like that, this much is certain.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

He wishes, just like all of us here do, that baseball only existed in computers. But he was cursed by God with the talent for hitting monstrous homeruns. So now he acts as an agent on the inside. It’s really quite devious.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

the dude will never make anything of himself in baseball

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Odds are 50%

Either he does or doesn’t.

Oversimplification for the win.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a Yogi Berra-esque statement, IMO.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

EJ Dome

I Have been away from St Louis for close to 2 decades now. What is wrong with the EJ Dome. How can anything be wrong with it— it is only 15 years old or so.

The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!

by Zubin on Sep 28, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

there isn't really anything wrong with it

it’s kind of dark on the inside and it doesn’t have a retractable roof and it’s increasingly easy for teams to throw temper tantrums about their stadiums.

When the Rams were good it was an awesome place to watch a football game.

by DanUpBaby on Sep 28, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

No city's taxpayers should pay $500MM for a private franchise's stadium.

What’s more, I wouldn’t be surprised if a tourist tax factored into this funding, which means Cardinals fans would be paying for the new Rams stadium. I find this deplorable.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they will be gone by 2014

When I think the current contract is up. I just don’t see the Rams or Saint Louis ponying up for a new stadium.

by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

What they ought to do is take a can-opener to that sucker...

Hell, even I’d be inclined to go to a game there if you could get an actual cold-weather, open-air, stadium football experience in it. And it would still be significantly warmer since it’d be closed in on all sides but the top.

Oversimplifying?

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Sep 28, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

st louis will get it done

they got it done for the cardinals, they’ll get it done for the rams.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't know about that...

With Busch III, Kiel Auditorium, this new Northside Development Project (if it goes through), Ballpark Village…St. Louisans may very well reach their tipping points soon in how much their willing to give up to help private developers and companies build new stuff.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Sep 28, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

the football fans in the upper levels will get it done

just like baseball fans in the upper levels got it done for the cardinals and the blues fans in the upper levels got it done for the blues.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need more casinos

the Vegas of the midwest, we shall be!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh...don't get me started.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Sep 28, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Loose slu...slots, you say?

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Try

the Atlantic City of the north.

"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5

"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Sep 28, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

They didn't do too much for the Cards, did they?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't the county use its bonding power?

And, I believe, multiple tax breaks?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

only thing i can find from wikipedia

“The stadium was financed through private bonds, bank loans, a long-term loan from St. Louis County, and money from the team owners”

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

45 million dollar long-term bond from st. louis county

meaning the county probably got a tax break in order to get that money.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just found a nifty new blog,

entitled Field of Schemes, and here is a snippet of a post on the funding for Busch III, which the author says is a “much better deal” than other cities have gotten. You should definitely read the entire post, as it also provides a breakdown of the Cardinals, LLC’s ongoing financial obligations:

The final tally, then, has the costs of the new facility breaking down like so:

$42.7 million in state funds to pay for infrastructure and the demolition an replacement of an interstate ramp;

$3.4 million a year from the elimination of a city ticket tax, which should pay off $42.9 million worth of bonds;

$90 million in cash from the Cardinals;

$200.5 million in private stadium bonds, to be paid off by the team at $15.9 million a year;

a $45 million county loan, to be repaid by the team with interest – though the Cards can instead choose to simply hand over the stadium after 30 years, which they almost certainly will.

So while involving substantial public funds – somewhere between one-quarter and one-third the total construction cost, depending on how you count that loan – the new St. Louis stadium will still involve the second-most private money of any baseball park of the last 30 years, after the San Francisco Giants’ Pacific Bell Park, which was 90% privately funded.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's cool

but what exactly does “hand over the stadium” mean? the county will just own it and do with it whatever it pleases?

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

But not “whatever it pleases.” They will likely demolish it and fork over some more money for Busch IV InBev Stadium and the Belgian Village.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

but what happens if the cardinals still want to play in it in 30 years?

will it just be county owned and run?

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's just it; they won't.

In 30 years, the Cardinals will successfully lobby for a new baseball stadium and get the state, county, and city to help pay for it. (That is, unless the socialist revolution becomes complete and the federal government seizes all private property, instituting a salary cap in MLB to make it more socialist and fair. They the federal government will own Busch III and nullify any contract clause between the Cardinals and the county.)

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, that's rather lame

so knowing that, construction will begin on busch stadium IV sometimes around 2033?

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be my guess.

The city or county will “donate the land” for Busch IV.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

since when is the life expectancy of a brand new stadium 30 years?

just seems like it would last longer than that.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

How long did Busch II last?

It had a renovation after 30 years and then they tore it down for Busch III after about 40, right?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

i believe 1966 was the first year they played in busch II. but wasn’t that stadium supposedly built like crap and one of the last “cookie cutter” stadiums and they just wanted to get rid of it?

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mindset

Imagine telling someone in 1966 that the new Busch Stadium II would be the “last of the cookie cutters,” that those stadiums were ugly, that astroturf was a horrible idea, and that we just wanted to get rid of it. That person’s reaction would likely be similar to ours at the notion of tearing down Busch III. But, the same talking points used for Busch II can be used for Busch III in 30 years:

“It was built like crap. It is the last of the cookie cutter retro stadiums. We just want to get rid of it.”

This is a sore spot for me. I loved Busch II, especially after the post-football renovations. I did not, and, to this day, do not, see why we needed a new stadium, in particular, a new stadium so close to the interstate.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

fair enough

we’re on the same page here.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

The physical building absolutely lasts longer than that.

However, and this is the part that boggles quite a few minds, is this: in looking at a building built for a purpose such as this, one needs to adopt the mindset more of an automobile, only on a grander scale.

You buy an automobile, pay on it for a while, and then, once it’s paid for, it’s essentially making you money, because the money you would be paying for an auto payment is now extra in your pocket. (Of course, it only makes you money if you take said amount and put it aside, a fact sorely lost on most.) All the while you’re driving the car, though, you’re also incurring maintenance costs. Oil changes, tuneup, new clutch, etc.

Now, here’s the tricky part. At some point in the life of that automobile, there is going to be a repair cost incurred that exceeds the value of the automobile. Simple devaluation ensures this will eventually happen. Ten year old car, the transmission blows. You take it to your mechanic, and he says to you, “Well, it’ll cost two grand to fix, but the car’s probably only worth eight hundred bucks.”

At that point, you would literally be paying more than the car is worth to fix it. Now, there’s nothing wrong with doing so; maybe the car has sentimental value as one of your children was conceived (or delivered), in it, or it originally belonged to a family member, or you just really like it. So you put the money into it for reasons other than strictly financial ones.

A stadium works much the same way, though the repair costs almost never actually exceed the value, due to the fact it’s a piece of real estate and all. The rules are slightly different. At some point, though, the costs of maintaining and upgrading a stadium will outstrip the financial value the building itself has. At that point, the organisation can continue to repair it for some reason (see: Wrigley Field), or replace it with a new stadium which, while requiring a large initial investment, repeats the same cycle of profitability and eventual devaluation as the automobile.

I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!

by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

makes sense

but that’s kind of my point. is it really too much to repair and maintain after just 30 years? seems like it would need some upgrades and such after that amount of time, but it still seems like it would be worthwhile to do so after just 30 years.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

After about 30 years,

Busch II was renovated and updated, made into a beautiful baseball-only stadium. Then, the Cardinals began to trash it and eventually got a brand new stadium out of the deal. My point is, how long after the stadium becomes government property will the Cardinals decide a new stadium is necessary?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

and as bgh argues, it will likely be right away. which i just think is silly.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

less about repair/maint.

and more about things like luxury boxes, amenities, etc. That’s the main reason they build new stadiums. Also the idea that a shiny new building will attract more customers.

youneverknow

by floodOfLove on Sep 28, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

bogus

in my opinion. buying a new car is a terrible investment. maintaining an old one is only a poor ivestment…..

bottom line is people don’t want to spend money once the luster has worn off. shiny and new…

by cdb on Sep 28, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also,

there are probably tax incentives when building new.

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 28, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was listening to part of the game on the radio in my car the other day

And one of the commentators ( I honestly have no idea who either of them were) made this downright silly remark about watching the play again on that gee-golly absolutely awesome GIANT HD SUPER JUMBO SCREEN. I assume they upgraded it? Their need to pimp out the screen was kind of pathetic.
That said, the only professional football game I have ever been to was a 90’s Rams game in the Dome (it may have still been the TWA Dome back then) and I found nothing wrong with it. The game was the crappy part. The best moment was a very nice punt by the Rams’ punter. Exciting!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes they updated it from that sorry ass old one

but god, watching the rams from 1999-2001 still remains as my favorite childhood memory. there was not a louder, better place to play football during that time.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been to St. Louis, Atlanta & Minnesota

Minnesota was by far the loudest place I’ve ever been

Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9

by STLRegalia on Sep 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

minnesota? really?

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Metrodome gets extremely loud for Iowa vs. Minnesota (back before the Gophers got a new outdoor stadium),

so I bet it gets incredibly loud for the Vikings, when the entire crowd is unified in their rooting interest.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think it's bigger than the EJD

but i would still say the ed was louder in it’s heyday as the twa dome.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Georgia dome was louder, IMO, too

(Bears/Falcons last year)

Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9

by STLRegalia on Sep 28, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

well the geogia dome has got both of 'em by 10K

so that’s understandable.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

when did you go to st. louis?

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

fair enough

though i would argue it was louder in 2000-2001 (including the 1999 playoff games).

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

There wasn't a cloud in the sky and it was an insanely comfortable 77 degrees yesterday

and you had to go inside to watch a football game in person.

That’s what is wrong with it.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it were 40 degrees and rainy, it would still be wrong.

I firmly believe that football should be played outside and on natural grass.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed.

signed,
Packers fan

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It looked really nice for that game against the Bengals last Sunday.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Early-season doesn't count.

It’s like going to an HS football game when it’s still light outside. Early season is dismissed except for injury and record.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't like the "Smurf Turf" of Boise St?

That field cracks me up everytime I see it.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It does have a strange pull to it.

Kinda like that doughnut that you really don’t need.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Mmmm... forbidden donut..."

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Mmmmm, forbidden fish food."

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Misutah Spakurah?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it just me or does that look like those Guild pilots

from the original Dune movie?

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ballchinian, you say?!

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am literally shaking from laughing at that.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeeesh!

:=8.

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta love Men in Black

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha

Massive amounts of spice will do weird things to you.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the Smurf Turf

Real grass is always best, mind you, but if you’re going to have turf, why NOT have it be blue?

by mojowo11 on Sep 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally

I think Clemosn should have an orange field with purple yard lines.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

You couldn't follow the game on TV, I wouldn't think.

The Clemson players would blend in.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

They'd have to wear their purple uniforms.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You lost me there.

I like their orange uniforms, and I’m from a high school where we wore purple at home, and the UNI Panthers have purple as their primary school color (despite the lamentable creep of black into the football team’s color scheme).

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the orange ones too.

They could wear orange at away games. Or they could wear white.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

So? They

I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!

by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

So? They'd be wicked tough to beat.

Camouflage and all. How do you tackle what you can’t see?

I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!

by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know.

Teams can tackle the green-glad Jets. My guess is that they’d just be hard to see on the tele.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

They would be hard to beat.

Our players would be used to the blinding field and stands full of orange, other teams however…

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing really

Many people don’t like the fact that it’s a straight-up dome and that the crowd is kind of tame… To which I retort that when the team was good that place absolutely shook. I don’t think we’re talking about Metrodome/Arrowhead loud, but you really couldn’t hear yourself think after a 65-yard Warner-to-Bruce TD.

It’s not perfect, but it’s a fine facility. The Rams ownership just wants an excuse to bolt.

VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009

by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

there were the claims of piped-in noise too...

sneaky, sneaky Rams.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Sep 28, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like something the Twins would do, to me.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

They wouldn't have been the first

VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009

by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 28, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

football is the cold weather sport

baseball is the warm weather sport. that’s all I need really. never seen a live football game, other than the Green Machine (my high school team). I dislike college football, and haven’t been able to get into basketball since Jordan retired. hockey is great live but lame on tv… I am pretty sure that football is better on tv than live though.

dang I wish the playoffs would hurry up and start! I’m not sure how fun it will be to follow the team with lineups like yesterday’s one

Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

i haven't seen one nba games since june of 98 either

i love college football though, but other than dallas i hate the nfl with a passion.

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like Chitown I've always preferred football on TV to live.

Football, despite being berated as some sort of macho caveman exercise, is a pretty complicated sport. I actually played football at school in 7th and 8th grade, and managed football all through high school (there was a sports requirement and that was what I did in the fall trimester. Great way to get on the good side of the coaches) and to this day I can’t tell you what a Red Mad Double Dog Defensive Formation actually is. Or what have you. I really like having the benefit of TV angles and the occasionally insightful commentary by the TV guys to help break things down better.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Worst officials signal?

Tripping…

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm so glad referees have microphones.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

i get to go ref football this afternoon

i’m going to call more tripping just because of this. thanks.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

particularly nice

when combined with the ridiculous throwback uniforms they’ve been wearing. I really don’t understand the point of those, by the way. Is there a market for throwback ref unis that I’m not aware of.

by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really makes me want to eat at TGI Fridays...

…Woody’s a tool.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

AFL refs wore orange.

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 28, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

He Looks Like..

….he’s trying to do the River Dance!

:=8/

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would always rather watch an NFL game on TV as opposed to in person...

I don’t care who is playing. But if you actually like football, went to a college game, and came away wishing you watched on TV…well that’s probably a result of where you were. There is nothing comparable to an electric college football atmosphere in my opinion.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Unless I'm 50 yard line in awesome seats

I wouldn’t take free tickets to an NFL game. The unpossible number of commercials make it unbearable to sit through.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 28, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chicken McNuggets are infact delicous

and the local f’ng gdm handegg team is not worth mentioning

that is all

It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.

by YesWeOquendo on Sep 28, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

the rams are awesome.

duh.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're on the road to 13-3!

Have no fear everybody, it’s all downhill from here.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh

as probably the biggest rams fan on this board, i have to say it’s mighty depressing to watch this team the past three years.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honest question

I don’t ask this to rub it in, I’m honestly curious because I want to know how bad it really is right now (so I know what to expect for the next few years). Are they the worst team in the NFL? One of the worst? Or just very bad but not absolutely bottom tier bad?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

hard to say based on just 3 games

but last year the Rams and Detroit were on a different plane of suckitude compared to the rest of the league by football outsider’s DVOA. Until there’s reason to think otherwise, I’d have to agree that we’re now in a class by ourselves.

by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

they are definitely in the bottom five

i wouldn’t say they are the worst team (cleveland step on up!), but they are without doubt in the bottom tier right now.

as for improvement, i firmly believe this team bottomed out last year. the new regime took over this year, and many intelligent fans already notice a difference in the way the team plays. the defense has improved, and it’s only a matter of time before spagnuolo and his crew get his guys installed and the rams start winning.

i would expect 3-4 wins next year, 5-8 next year, and then maybe some sort of run in 2011. they desperately need a franchise QB, and i believe they will draft one with their inevitable high pick in the upcoming draft.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grammar question

Which one is grammatical correct

The problem lays within the box

The problem lies within the box

by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know

that exact question knocked me out of last year’s National Grammar Rodeo in Calgary

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I thought it was strange to having our grammar rodeo in Canada...

Andy Williams??!! We’re stopping!!!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

lays is not a word... "Lays" is an incorrect version of "lay"

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

But they do make damn good chips.

/Douh!! Or however that’s spelled.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mmmmmm

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? Huh.

I’ve just always thought of it as a plural of, well, you know.

I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!

by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh heh...

…sexin’.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

“Lay” is a form of “to lie” as in to lie down. It is past tense: She lay down and fell asleep after having an exhausting day. It might also be second person or a command or something? There’s that Dylan song “Lay Lady Lay” after all… I can’t remember if that’s correct grammar though.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

lies within would be proper

Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is what I first thought

Also, In case anyone is wondering the reason I asked. I am making a t-shirt for my dad’s birthday. He think he comes up with all these awesome t-shirt ideas. So I thought I would make him a couple t-shirts for his birthday.

by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another cool link,

off of that story is to this Stan “The Man” Musial LIFE magazine photograph slideshow:

http://www.life.com/image/first/in-gallery/31082/stan-musial-the-man

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

And this story about Red is classic:
St. Louis had dropped a tough game to the Braves in 13 innings at Busch Stadium on that significant date, July 22. Schoendienst was frustrated by the defeat and carried his frustration with him to his new home in suburban St. Louis. When Red walked into the house his wife, Mary Eileen, sensed trouble. Red walked out back and decided to mow the lawn, twice pulled the rip cord on the power mower and broke it. He came back inside and lifted the cover off the pot on the kitchen range and challenged her on her method of boiling potatoes to go with the steak that he was about to cook. He went back to the barbecue and put the steaks on, and soon puffs of black smoke circled the neighborhood. A policeman rang the front doorbell and asked if the Schoendiensts were all right and if they were planning just a small fire. “Go out back,” Mary Eileen said, “and ask the manager.”

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: Yadi is 2 GIDP's away from tying the Franchise record.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Yearly Progression...

04 – 4
05 – 10
06 – 15
07 – 18
08 – 21
09 – 27 (and counting?)

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's becasue he doesn't hustle.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get off our forums, Al!

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only if you GET OFF MY LAWN, RASMUS!

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Appropriate Touch

Sponsored by Slick-Rick 'Stache Cream

by The_teague on Sep 28, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to check my $99.99 spreadsheet

but I think he’s the most in debt in adjusted $99.99.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

Because the Royals or Padres have heard your arguments, agree with them, have relatively low-key managers, and are apparently ready to trade for Milton.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

LB started a sign Milton movement here at VEB a few offseasons past.

And I agreed with his logic, which, as per usual, proved correct. However, I just don’t see a Bradley/TLR marriage ended better than the TLR/Steve Kline or TLR/Rolen relationships. It would end quickly and with fireworks. Otherwise, I’d be open to the idea. I don’t blame either the Pads or Royals for being intrigued.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The TLR Rolen relationship sure didn't have much of an impact

We were an awesome team with Rolen and we won the world series in 06. We even got decent value on a trade for Rolen (nobody could have predicted Glaus would be out all season).

by vivaelpujols on Sep 28, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying that we wouldn't have a good club.

I’m saying that the likelihood we would find ourselves in the position we were in with Rolen after ‘07, and that the Cubs find themselves in with Bradley now, is high if TLR is our manager. The gamble might be worth it, depending on what we’re giving up, but I doubt it.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

Bradley is one of my favorite players statistically, but he’s a dick and probably has a slight negative effect on the rest of his teammates. If he’s a 2.5 WAR player – .5 “chemistry wins” than he’s only league average. And he will be expensive, unless the Cubs eat a crapload of his salary, and he doesn’t upgrade us in a position of need.

I’d rather stock up F.A.T’s and sign Rich Harden.

by vivaelpujols on Sep 28, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Naw, he'll be undervalued this offseason I think

His ERA and W/L record was squarely average this year; but he pitched a lot better. He’s pretty consistent too, xFIP’s of 3.70 each of the past 3 years. If you get 150 innings of a 3.70 xFIP pitcher, that’s about 3 WAR. He’ll likely get a short term deal for half of that due to his injury history and “average” performance this year.

by vivaelpujols on Sep 28, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harden

reminds me of Chris Carpenter.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i strongly agree with this tack.

Our financial situation and having several reasonable-but-not-stars rotational prospects make getting a fragile starter on a one-year discount appealing – sheets, harden, webb, smoltz, pavano. Obviously not all those guys have same ceiling, but I’d be interested in getting one of the above.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 28, 2009 5:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Put me down for one of those as the scrap off the heap for 2010.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harden's a type A, presumably

do we really want to give the small bears our first rounder (when they’re likely to be looking to rebuild internally)? If we’re going down the higher end of the FA pitcher route, I’d probably rather look at Sheets or Bedard or somebody.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Expect there is a good chance that Sheets or Bedard are done

Or at least won’t be the pitchers that they were before. A first rounder isn’t really a big deal, it’s usually worth only 3-4 million in surplus value with a HUGE bust rate. Plus, we should be getting a couple back with Hollday/DeRosa/Pineiro/Glaus.

by vivaelpujols on Sep 29, 2009 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

no moar ex-Athletic pitchers!

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 28, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember that post

This is all very strange. Why would the Royals be interested in Milton Bradley? Don’t they know that one of this chief skills is that he always gets on base?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

The author must have confused bradley for jeff francoeur.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 28, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

This thread is too happy-

some one start an argument.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 28, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

You mofo!

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is not!!

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finally!

someone got it.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is probably my all-time favourite Python sketch

absolute genius.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha! You're totally wrong!

‘Over and Done With’ is totally a better song than ‘1000 Miles.’ I mean, I could understand disagreeing, that’s cool. Wait, what?…

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

all of your music is boring

Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has ClemsonGirl possessed Cards Fan in Chitown??

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey! I use the subject line now to please Spants' dying computer.

And besides I ahve no idea what kind of music hazel listens to.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

unless hazel is of the Sister variety.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Sep 28, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGU_v_GAdvg

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 28, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is far from boring.

I’ve got scottish in my family!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOM

roast it!

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

...Roasted...

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

doh!

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is where she was supposed to come back with

“Sure, but not that little”

f’in ClemsonGirl

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was gone!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too far.

f’in gdm.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

someone had to say it

might as well have been someone as harmless as myself

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

so that's what a scottish wedding is like!

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was born in Scotland.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have a Scottish last name

But my actual Scottishness has sort of dwindled through the ancestral line. And the name came from Normandy originally anyway. So I don’t know how cool it really is.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 29, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bobo is a Scottish name?

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 29, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mandolorian

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 29, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have learned in my lifetime

the easiest way to start an argument is to make fun of someone’s music

Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHA LOL!

SoonerTU FAN likes Tony! hahahaha

by vivaelpujols on Sep 28, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

mancrush!

Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Schaeffer looks interesting

but I like Ron Paul too,

Read them simultaneously!

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neither.

But I would never read anything by either of those authors.

Sponsored by Slick-Rick 'Stache Cream

by The_teague on Sep 28, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would go out and buy

“The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt” by Edmund Morris. It is, right now, my favorite political biography and I highly recommend it. “The Rise…” is part one of a trilogy Morris has undertaken on Teddy Roosevelt, and the final installment is due out soon, I’ve heard.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm watching Schaeffer youtube vids now

and I think I’m going to buy his book, or at least check it out.
that’s it for me on the politics

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

best book

I have read in the last 10 years it made me tired thinking about doing half of the things he did

by TomCat009 on Sep 28, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

TR is a truly singular American personality.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kind of like

Michael Collins as one of those guys you wish had held power for a little while longer. Tim Pat Coogan’s bio of Collins is an amazing read as well.

by TomCat009 on Sep 28, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The.best.political.biography.ever...

Is Robert Caro’s Lyndon Johnson, still in progress after three volumes. Rumor has it Caro will not live to finish Vol IV, which makes me very sad.

by alberich on Sep 28, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those are incredibly interesting.

And LBJ is another singular American personality. Perhaps I just like TR better.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Third one

will be called Dutch right? I think The Rise won the Pulitzer

by TomCat009 on Sep 28, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anything about

ending the Fed piques my curiosity. Read that one.

"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5

"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Sep 28, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm willing to bet most people that read this clicked on it

yet no one wants to reply to it…

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of ank's curve

i have a hard time remembering things more than a week in the past. so, ank v. waino. whose is nastier. better yet, anyone have gif/video of ank’s curve?

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 28, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Ank's curve was a thing of beauty.

I don’t really wanna say it was better that A.D.A.M.‘s, but throwing that to a lefty was every bit as nasty as Johnson’s slider was, IMO.

"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR Passan

by RiverRat on Sep 28, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll say it

Ank’s curve was probably the single greatest pitch I have ever witnessed. This is what makes me so sad that he could not control the FB. Ank was without a doubt a future CY winner.

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

This gives me a sad.

I’m almost hoping that he struggles a little bit," Jocketty says. "For one thing, I’d rather see him learn from adversity in Triple A than in the big leagues.

I wonder how Ank would have turned out if it would have happened THAT way.

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duncan would have fixed him.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

That makes me sad too.

It is alluded to in this (probably quite familiar) article that one of his problems was that he never had to face adversity in the minors and just sailed through, blowing everyone away.

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

That and some dependency issues that he didn't personally address

until his dad got locked up.

But apparently the media wasn’t allowed to cover that part of the story.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dunno

i remember that being the main explanation for his struggles

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 28, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, me too

just not in the mainstream media.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i don't remember specifics

shit was ages ago

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 28, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've heard he had some dependency issues as well

but I have nothing to back it up. All I have is hearsay.

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

he had plenty

of the same issue in AAA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3GnaUBKXtI

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 28, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

nvm, this was 2001

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 28, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was fitting Wainer

became the first starter to get double digit k’s in back-to-back starts since Ankiel this weekend.

Ranking Cardinal curveballs this decade:

1. Wainwright
2. Ankiel
3. Kile
4. Morris
5. Carpenter

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wainwright

is always a good #1 for this category, but I don’t remember anyone who possessed a curve as badass as Ank’s. Oh, what could have been.

"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5

"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Sep 28, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know...I should have just said it.

When he did control the fastball, hitters didn’t have a chance. That curve had about 6 feet of break, and when he was able to spot that 95 or 96 mph heater, no one had a chance…lefties or righties.

"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR Passan

by RiverRat on Sep 28, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wanna know why it is impossible to find video of Ank in his pitching days

f’in MLB, f’in Bud

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here is

bad Ankiel in 01

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am pissed that was the only video of Ank I could find

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hardcore Legend

surely has footage.

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 28, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you google

“Voices real and imagined”

You will find an interesting short film, including footage of Ank pitching and taking questions at press conferences, that keeps getting yanked by MLB. It was easy to find until after September 6, 2007, then it started disappearing.

Please don’t link to it directly or I’m sure it will disappear again.

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

ooops--sorry. I should have said: Google

"Voices real and imagined" ankiel

and it will be the first link that turns up. On present video com, username smelly4food.

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just watched it so I know it's still there.

It looks like somebody’s film school project.

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It looks like VEB already had this conversation in early July 2008:

archived for posterity

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just watched it...

…very interesting.

Now…do I get an Ankiel 66 personalized jersey? Seeing as he’ll likely be gone next year??
lol

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

It makes me really sad to watch it

…especially that horrible child yelling at him from the stands. If I ever did that at a sporting event my dad would have given me a lecture about sportsmanship. In fact, he did just that when I booed Garry Templeton.

You have three jersey number choices, depending on what era of Ankiel you want. 66 is probably a good choice.

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

That kid was terrible.

I jostle with the opposing outfielders in FW, but they know I’m playin’ around, nothing serious. Actually had a conversation in the middle of an inning with Brian Van Kirk from Lansing (A-TOR). Good clean fun. He tossed up a ball after he made a putout. lol

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

But that's where the difference lies...opposition vs home

I’d NEVER boo a home-player. I know we knock on our player alllll the time (e.g. Duncan, Ankiel, Thurston, et al) but never in my dreams could I rattle their cages at a game. Fully disrespectful.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right--even when I was furious with Welley or Franky this year

I certainly wouldn’t have booed them at a game. Hearing the home fans boo our own players (even if they really suck and are pissing me off) makes me really sad.

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Borderline disgusted.

… I’ll rag on a player behind the veil of an IP address…but that’s as far as it’ll go.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Completely agree.

I used to never hear St. Louisans boo their players (maybe I just never noticed) but I hear it all the time now and it’s like nails on a chalkboard everytime. Even when Izzy was awful and I hated when they brought him out I could never boo him. He’s playing for my team and so in a way it’slike he’s playing for me. How can I boo him for that?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's gotten worse over the past few years.

I never noticed it before the year Izzy was playing through his hip injury that required surgery (was that 2006?)

I also NEVER saw anyone throw a home run ball back on to the field at Busch Stadium until last year. I actually yelled at those people (but they were too far away to hear me)

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate when people throw HR balls back.

It’s so stupid. I actually don’t mind too much when Cubs fans do it (and I know a lot of people here mind it a lot but my Dad grew up a Cubs fan so I don’t hate the Cubs as much as a lot of people), tradition and all, but any other time it is ridiculous.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't hate the Cubs either.

My feelings toward the Cubs range from mild interest to indifference to pity, and I don’t mean that in an asshole way. When they do well in a year when the Cards are sucking, I think well, good for them. We go to the postseason all the time, and will continue to do so. They hardly ever get to, except for the past few years.

When I was a kid I remember the rivalry being much more friendly.

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've always thought it was fairly freindly on the Cardinals side but less so on the Cubs side.

I just hear horror stories of Cards fans at Wrigley and very few of Cubs fans at Busch.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went to a game at Wrigley in August 2008

and wore an Ankiel jersey t-shirt and got harrassed pretty badly by fans. We were in the bleachers, though. After the game (Cards lost, Carp pulled mid-game due to injury), we got harassed less. The door guys outside the bars on the way to the red line had some pretty clever jokes about InBev and were aware that Carpenter had gotten hurt. They knew how to jab, but weren’t unkind.

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard one of the most awful things

ever said to a child while at Busch Stadium. A Cards fan said it to a Cubs fan and their kids.

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 28, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Elaborate?

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 29, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

...

…which was…?

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 29, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

hee hee.

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 29, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Something about abortion.

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 29, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not very nice.

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 29, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know!

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 29, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tossing HR balls back is the #1 lamest thing in baseball fandom

fking Cubs fans.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I remember in the 90's maybe 95

There were some scumbag bastards that even booed Ozzie before he retired. I mean,granted he wasn’t nearly as good by then, but you don’t do that to somebody that meant so much for so long.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 29, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like making lists of active players (cheating on Ankiel)

Fastballs:
1. Pedro (96 with life with Maddux command)
2. Billy Wagner back in the day (14.6! K/9 from 97-99)
3. Randy
4. Webb (221 innings per year, 64% groundballs with Ks)
5. Papelbon (Might be a douche but career K/BB of 4.5 is nuts)

Curves:
1. Ankiel
2. Wainwright
3. Zito
4. Lincecum
5. Oswalt

Changeups:
1. Pedro’s Bugs Bunny
2. Hoffman
3. Gagne
4. Santana
5. Lincecum

Sliders:
1. Randy, nuff said
2. Lidge in 04 (157 Ks as a reliever! 87-90 mph slider)
3. Kerry Wood during that 20k game
4. Prime Smoltz (best slider command ever, just pumped that thing for strikes 0-0 0-1 and buried it with 2 strikes)
5. Joe Nathan

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 28, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is kinda cool

fan (long pause)… post material?

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: Planning on making a new Cards wallpaper...

…any ideas on what anyone wants?

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Nothing specific; more layout.

I like them simple. I don’t like the wallpapers that combine multiple images. But that’s just me. I thought some of the photos that our members have posted have been cool. Maybe they would let you incorporate some of those?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, I've never been a clutter-guy...

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

or...

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

WIN

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not if it's tiled

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Sep 29, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

What resolution do you run?

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

new years?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

very nice

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

United Nations?

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since nobody answered, here it is in 1440x900

Download from here

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

nice work!

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you

I wanted to keep it simple with the B/W and throw a little red accent in there

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

you got mad skillz yo

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Made a fanshot for it...if this thread gets too molasses'y.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

well done indeed

I actually run 1440 × 900 so Super thanks from Me!

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I run 1440x900 also...lol

I worked it in 1920×1200

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 29, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

partial to the ones with lots of little pics then you step back and it's Lincoln's face

though they’re tough to get right and Lincoln’s face would be more like WW winding up or something

by EinFesteBusch on Sep 28, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if there's a website that does that automatically...

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ohhh, photo mosaics?

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

lots of options online...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=photo+mosaic+automatic+online

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I were to do it, I wouldn't do the automated online version.

I’d use Andrea Mosaic and have all the source photos be Cardinals players, Busch Stadium, etc.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here was mine from 07

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 28, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn, Eck

What is that a bottle of? It looks familiar, but I can’t put a finger on it

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe its Cuervo

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 28, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

winner.

awful, awful stuff.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's probably most delicious right after winning the World Series

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bernie Williams: "Are you the guy that put us in that Ramada in Milwaukee?"

Costanza: “You wanna talk about hotels? Or you wanna win some ballgames?”

Jeter: “Hey, we won the World Series.”

Costanza: “Pssh. In six games.”

Makes me LOL every time.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 6:16 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

OT: Always have a spotter!

Whoopsies! USC RB

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Conversely: Don't Lift Weights!

Those things are heavy.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell yeah... people ask me how I maintain my godly physique...

…don’t go to the weight room and eat what I want.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

never lift over 16 ounces at a time

okay, sometimes you can lift 40 oz, but that should be your limit

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about 59oz?

For those nights when a handle of liquor will do a body good?

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

you do what you want

kids these days

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno if I can do that anymore...

…took a month off of drinking. Freedom comes back this weekend.

Luckily, the liver’s still healthy…or so I hope.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

you should never take that much time off from drinking

there’s a chance the body will think it doesn’t need the alcohol

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone bet me 50 that I couldn't do it...

…why pass up on free money?

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

you make a good point

but make sure to spend that 50 on beer, okay?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duh...?

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you were an alcoholic

You’d have lost $50

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

i really do hate the nfl

and i hate going to watch football games. i hate the fans, i hate the seats bleachers. i hate the loud ass announcers you can hear from 10miles away. i hate you can’t follow the game like you can on TV. college football games are at least fun to go to, i’ve never been to an nfl game & i probably won’t unless i end up living in Big D

oh & i really, really, really, REALLY hate the lambs. they never should have left LA & it would be much better if they get the hell out of town & stop wasting everyone’s time, money & energy that should be focused on the Cards.

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

lots of discussion

around watching football games live. I’ve found watching them (pro games at least) a remarkably tedious experience. i’m convinced the couch is the best seat in the house, so to speak. i can’t believe people pay money to watch men of superhuman stature stand around on the field most of the time in between brief spurts of action.

"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5

"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Sep 28, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm disowning you as my father.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, so you didn't want saturday night to happen?

the right way? on the field?

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

never root for that team

never, evar evar

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay, sorry

i should have said “i want the giants to do everything possible to lose the game!!!!”

my bad.

/has huge test tomorrow that has not been studied for at all, yet wasting time on veb

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's it

I’m calling Dr. Phil

"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5

"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Sep 28, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh, i also hate that's it's just after 7pm & it's already dark out

damnit all to hell, what happened to summer?

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

still sunny here

you damn eastern time zoners

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the advantage to being less than 75 miles into the eastern time zone...

It gets dark as late as possible. Of course the opposite is true in the mornings, but I’m never awake before 10, so why should I care?

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Still sunny here.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

how was that possible?

ohio didn’t see the sun all day, the temps were fine, but no sun. oh well, i’m in the basement anyway, there’s never any sun down here

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rumor is it's always sunny in Philadelphia

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

HFS...

MLB Network just ran the possible outcomes of the Twins/Tigers series across the bottom of the screen.

Not what each outcome would mean, but just Tigers sweep, Twins sweep, Tigers 3 of 4, Twins 3 of 4, split.

Are we that dumb?

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

yes.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're finally speaking to the moran audience

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was helpful...

but what happens if they split?

Ask me about my avatar!

by guayzimi on Sep 28, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Twins fans go bananas?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

B-A-N-A-N-A-S

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

How was it helpful?

But anyway, the Twins are probably done with anything less than 3 of 4. With a split, they’ll still be 2 games back with 3 to play. They’d be tied with 3 of 4.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

hoping for 3 of 4

need at least one playoff race to keep things interesting between now and the 7th

by ubeddie on Sep 28, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm...

ok, but what happens if it keeps raining and the stadium floats away. Did they cover that?

Ask me about my avatar!

by guayzimi on Sep 28, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

They want you to text in a vote.

That is why they are running the possible outcomes.

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha oh okay...

Well apparently I am that dumb.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 29, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I put this in a fan shot but...

looks like Barmes didn’t catch that ball after all.

This is from the Denver Post.

by dcfcblues on Sep 28, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Motherf*ckers...

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

unfuckinbelieveable

i knew he didn’t catch that.

BRING ON INSTANT REPLAY AND BRING ON THE ROBOT UMPS

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

on. the. take.

they just threw games in different directions to throw off the scent.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Karma is a bitch, Denver...

We’re going to piss all over your Rocktober now.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Right after we finish up with Zep-tember here at 103.5, WVEB

All the hits, all time!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I don't know, but I've been told

A big-legged woman ain’t got no soul

killer guitar solo

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

bastards!

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

So let me get this straight (yes, my 3rd comment on the picture)...

Along with Skip being safe at first, THERE IS STILL NO ONE OUT IN THE TOP OF THE NINTH.

Seriously, fuck those umpires in a big way.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

We Win!!!!!

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Sep 28, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert, Skip, and Lugo all score on the bloop.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

IT'S AN ILLUSION!!!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

unbelievable

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 28, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

If anyone could be more pissed than the Cards, it's the Braves

They’d be 1 GB right now if we had won yesterday

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone trying to watch HIMYM?

the audio is all fucked up

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

The storyline must have been too douchy for your cable company to handle.

Although all non-Ted parts were fantastic, especially mustached Marshall.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

6ly, CBS is still f'ed up

it’s not working on Dish, DTV, Time Warner, or over the air antenna.

it’s weird. there’s no voice audio, but the laugh tracks & music are fine. the commercials are fine too. f’in ohio

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strange.

cbs posts HIMYM episodes online pretty quickly after they air. It’ll be up in a few hours.

Which reminds me. I think I might need to buy a tv for the playoffs. Or find a good bar. Cause mlb.tv doesn’t show those games live, does it?

by peach concrete on Sep 28, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Find yourself a bar.

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 28, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

where do you live?

(oh, god, this is turning into 1996 AOL CARDS FANZ FORUMZ)

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

tennessee or denver

it’s totally not creepy that i guessed that is it?

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i need a pep talk!!!

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

huge test tomorrow that i just started studying for--exhausted from the rest of the day's activities

sounds like i need the “just need to get started and on a roll” version.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get your shit together and do it.

/peptalk

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

go rub on out and get on with with it.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Key word "almost"

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 29, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

at this point you won't retain much information anyway

you’ll be better served to get some rest and be fresh tomorrow

It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.

by YesWeOquendo on Sep 28, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

at this point?

it’s 8:25…i freakin’ hope i can retain some sort of information.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I firmly believe

that I passed more tests by cramming than trying to remember information over an extended period of time. I can store anything for 24 hours.

Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation

by azruavatar on Sep 28, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

a gallon of milk?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

in 24 hours -- sure

in 1 hour — no (despite repeated attempts)

Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation

by azruavatar on Sep 29, 2009 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

but, you are a robot. It’s different for us humans

/also have test (wednesday) for which I am procrastinating

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 28, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm studying now for my test Thursday!

I’m so proud of myself. This never happens.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

as in you are studying

for your test that is on thursday right now? Or you are planning to start studying on thursday.

This is the downside of getting all of my school information on my computer. Instead of studying powerpoint slides (i’ve made it through about 3 in 3 hours) I play on the internet.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 28, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Test on Thursday

I’m studying now. Blackboard’s being stupid so I can’t get the powerpoints. I’m studying the old-fashioned way, with the book. :P

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

blackboard ha

we just switched to angel. Which has subsequently been bought out by blackboard.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 28, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should see the number f Facebbok statuses yelling at Blackboard in the Clemson world right now.

One says F U BLACKBOARD!
Another: blackboard is on drugs.
Mine: Darn it Blackboard! I need those Powerpoints!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't remember any big problems with BB

haven’t had any with angel either, so far. Hope they get everything lined out so that you can study the way you are supposed to. . . with a browser open and 3 tabs to distract you!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 28, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

no matter how hard I try

I cannot z through my powerpoints. . .

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 28, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blacboards back up.

Yay… now I have no excuses.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i haven't had an excuse this whole time

but, you see how productive I am being.

I will share this little nugget of knowledge with you, just in case it may help with your test: 80% of patients who die from TBI (traumatic brain injury) have associated fractures with their injury. Furthermore, fractures leave the patient more susceptible to secondary problems such as blood loss, hematoma, and infection.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 28, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's my helpful piece of knowledge:

Child advocacy refers to focused initiatives to improve services for all children or it can target a specific group of children. Eary childhood teachers must be advocates for their students, they are required by law to report anything that may be harming their students.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

see now,

that’s not helpful to me at all. How does that even relate to traumatic brain injuries?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 28, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well you tell me

How traumatic brain injuries relate to strategies to get parents involved in the classroom.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 29, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

see now thats silly

It is important to get family members involved in the treatment of TBI, but we will not be in a classroom. But, strategies there include the following:

“Look, your family member has a TBI, they are never going to be the same again, but in order for them to get as close to normal as possible, you are going to have to be involved in their recovery. they will recognize you sooner, respond to you easier, and be more compliant if you help. If not, they may never get any better.”

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 29, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

What?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 29, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

sorry

humor fail, just go with it. I was trying to spin into some family education that would go along with your comment about getting parents involved in the classroom, but it didn’t really work.

Basically, if family members help with people recovering from traumatic brain injury, the person will improve more than if the family doesn’t get involved.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 29, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

And if they help in the classroom kids will learn better, so my subject matter does help yours.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 29, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

sweet

now if only we could spin away for mine to help you. Or can we just use that one for both of us?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 29, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

That works for both of us I think.

Plus I assume yours is much harder. Mine’s all memorization.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 29, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

mainly memorization

but it is a doctoral level course and there will be case examples on the test. So, i really must get to work. Good luck with your studying.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 29, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sakai rules!

Blackboard drools.

We use both at MU, but Sakai is pretty awesome and I prefer it. Blackboard just feels clunky and outdated.

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, here you go...

stlcardinalsfang, you’re clearly very committed to your studies, because when classes started you told us you would be spending less time on the game threads in order to focus on your work. So don’t give up now! Stop ignoring your work – it’s just going to make you feel worse when you look at the pile of homework later tonight and realize you didn’t put a dent in it. Pick something small, promise yourself you’ll work for an hour on it, and then check back in with the game after that. We’ll give you a cheer. Getting started is always the hardest part – chances are after an hour of working on it you’ll be motivated to keep going.

Plus, if you don’t get to work, Lugo is gonna getcha. When you least expect it.

by peach concrete on Sep 28, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, except there isn't a game on tonight...

So check back in tomorrow! And tell us how much you accomplished!

by peach concrete on Sep 28, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

deal!

though i’ll still be lurking tonight….thy computer is the source of musical distraction.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, so the next time I'll see you...

I’m gonna ask you how much you’ve gotten done. And you can do the same, cause I’ve got a stack of reading for tomorrow.

by peach concrete on Sep 28, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

deal.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've had one test all semester...

One.

This week? Tests on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday.

Irritates the shit out of me how that always happens.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

My 2 weeks:

Math Quiz today, Midterm Thirsday, Math Test Thursday, Paper due Monday, Midterm Tuesday, Paper due Thursday, FALL BREAK FRIDAY!!!!! HOME!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you get a whole week?

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

Just the weekend then Monday and Tuesday.
Also I realized I have 2 papers due next Thursday.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

fair enough

we get a thursday + friday and then the weekend obviously. but that’s still 2.5 weeks away :(

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I couldn't make it.

Last year I made it untilNovember though. I don’t know how.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn

so you didn’t go home for 3 months?

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're insane.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

f'ing kids these days.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously

I’d go insane coming home every other month when I was 18-23. Granted, eight month stretchs sucked, but three months sounds fantastic.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's almost what my friends did

they’d come home on turkey day, and two weeks for xmas & new years. and maybe spring break, but that’s it.

i have no idea why i never went to collage. i should have left & never looked back. f’in gdm

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

you would have learned how to spell college!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's actually wrong.

I didn’t go home for fall Break I just waited for Thanksgiving because my parents didn’t want to fly me home twice in one month and I didn’t have a car.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

so i’m assuming you go home 4 times a year then.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last year

I went home for Thanksgiving and Christmas, Superbowl weekend because I was homeseick, and Spring Break.
This year I’ll be going home fro Fall Break, Indianapolis for Thanksgiving, Home for Christmas, and I don’t know about Spring Break yet.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what i'm trying to reduce myself to

i went home 7-8 times last year, which was too many.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

GET TO WORK!

you don’t want to end up like your old man!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's a cheap shot!

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Done and done

It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.

by YesWeOquendo on Sep 28, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That has to be the best videoon YouTube.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

It never gets old!

and I sincerely doubt it ever will

It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.

by YesWeOquendo on Sep 28, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want to watch it again.

I’ll probably watch it all the time from now on.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

You want a pad?

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

just noticed

Pirates won again. 2 1/2 out of home field advantage

Houston leading Philly 2-1 top of the sixth 2nd and 3rd one out.

by ubeddie on Sep 28, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

what is this "base ball"

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that what the armed forces

refer to when they mean football? GO GATERS! WOOO!

"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5

"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Sep 28, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

575 comments? Effing weak, VEB.

Mother effing weak.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

He eloped to Iowa with Dave Duncan.

Both are now missing.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

then... Seattle?

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry...

the missus has been on me to finish drywalling. What is it with women and bare studs?

Ask me about my avatar!

by guayzimi on Sep 28, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

We only like the animated ones.

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 28, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know, in some circles, mainly mine

the term drywalling is used to refer to what Chris Duncan does to tropheys. Just an FYI.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa...

sheetrocking it is…

Ask me about my avatar!

by guayzimi on Sep 28, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're resting starters

it’s the title of the gdm topic

It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.

by YesWeOquendo on Sep 28, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

who's in centerfield??

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

gdm topic?

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've decided that gdm = God damn

Anything else is wrong. Sorry, but you don’t have a say in the matter, because if it’s not the case I will be crushed.

It just makes to much sense for it not to be true.

“f’n gdm” just wouldn’t be the same

It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.

by YesWeOquendo on Sep 28, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i won't kabloey your world then

carry on

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

gdm right

It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.

by YesWeOquendo on Sep 28, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Initials, birthday.

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 28, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

someone asked me what the 426 was last week & i told them & fritz hated it. oddly enough, i never remember anyone asking me what the gdm stood for

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

whats the gdm stand for?

and the 426?

and, I’ll give a pre-emptive Shut-up Fritz™

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 28, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tell me! Tell me!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's really not that exciting, especially for women

426 stands for the legendary 426ci engine that came in the legendary Mopar muscle cars in the late 60’s & early 70’s.

gdm are the initials for an old high school nickname. one i’m never going to tell you all what they stand for.

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

god damn maniac?

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 28, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, it's not vulgar or any curse words

you all will never guess it

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gay Dumb Motherfucker

Ah shit, can’t get by without cursing

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 29, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

this could get very ugly. or very funny

or both?

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 29, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gastrointestinal Diabetes Man?

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 29, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

So the Cardinals own the season series over the Dodgers...

The Dodgers own the season series over the Phillies, and the Phillies own the season series over the Cardinals.

What happens if they all finish with the same record?

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

records within the division

which right now stands at:

philly: 43-26 (3 to go)

la: 44-23 (6 to go)

cardinals: 45-29 (6 to go)

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a weak tiebreaker...

Seems like a tiebreaker should be based on something, you know, common. We also play more division games, and I don’t know if I think that’s an advantage or a disadvantage.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at Scenario 8.

Here

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe it starts with best combined record vs the 2 other tied teams.

…but I don’t know how that factors into uneven number of games, or if it goes by %

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the way I'm understanding it as well...

1) Phillies: 4-1 vs. STL, 3-4 vs. LA = 7-5 and .583

2) Cardinals: 5-2 vs. LA, 1-4 vs. PHI = 6-6 and .500

3) Dodgers: 2-5 vs. STL, 4-3 vs. PHI = 6-8 and .429

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

so...if the cardinals can win that (and to catch up to the dodgers, they'd have to)

they’d get homefield advantage and play the rockies/braves. la/philly would then play each other in la.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

If still tied thru there...then best record in NL-NL games.

…and if still tied, Best 2nd half record in NL-NL
…and if still tied, best 2nd half plus one game record in NL-NL
…and so forth.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

See I think it should start here...

Going off of records within your own division is retarded, because you’re rewarding the team with the weakest division.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wild Card team

might determine matchups since Colorado can’t play LA. In which case Philly has the series with STL and would get Col. STL then would have home field against LAD. But I could be making the whole thing up.

by ubeddie on Sep 28, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know that's the case in the NLDS...

But I’m trying to figure out who would have homefield in the NLCS.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

head to head series winner

Footnote on the mlb.com Postseason schedule.

The remaining team (but never the Wild Card) with the best overall regular-season record has home-field advantage and will play host to Games 1, 2, 6 and 7.

I believe homefield advantage is reset after the NLDS is completed, so the tiebreaker would be head to head for the NLCS

by ubeddie on Sep 28, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The way I see it...

Best winning percent against other 2 opponents.
LAD (vs PHI/STL) – 6-8 – .429
PHI (vs STL/LAD) – 7-5 – .583
STL (vs LAD/PHI) – 6-6 – .500

By my interpretation of the rules, Philly would have HFA in a 3-way tie.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I came to the same conclusion...

So the Phillies would host the Rockies while the Cardinals host the Dodgers.

Or the Cardinals would host the Braves while the Phillies host the Dodgers.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

If a 3-way tie, I think that's exactly what would happen...

Let’s just win out and hope we get HFA regardless.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that too.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Going, lind of, off of today's post

what would be a better investment of $500M for the city of Saint Louis:

1) A new football stadium, or

B) A lifetime contract to Albert Pujols, donated from the city, county, and state directly to Albert?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

new football stadium.

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

F*ck your handegg.

…Give me ALBERT.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert, easlily

fuck handegg

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

gdm, did you grow up in st. louis?

nfltouchdown.com

find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

first 10 years of my life i grew up 30min NW of Poplar Bluff

the rest of the time i’ve been up here, so no.

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO F'IN WAY

northwest; does that mean like ellsinore?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 28, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

®

yes

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you play any Ozark Foothills Conference

T-ball or little league before you left? (this is getting a little weird)

I went to school and played for Fisk

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 28, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah, i had very over protective parents

i was never allowed to play any sports till high school

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

man, that sucks

remember anyone from back in the day? Some Ellsinore names that were big that I remember: anyone named Stahl, Brock crowley, and I think there was some Eudaley ppl.

and I just realized that there is an age difference between you and I that makes this even more irrelevant.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 28, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, all those names ring bells, heck i'm related to some crowleys i think

my family was just at the grave yard cleaning at white’s mill in late august (my dad’s stone was just installed the day before) and they talked to tons of people, most of whom i didn’t remember. i didn’t go to ECC either, i went to a very small private school in hunter. but i still hung out with all the kids in town. the smith’s oldest son was probably my best friend.

you older or younger than early 30’s?

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

27, will be 28 in november

I played AAU basketball with Brock and eventually played JUCO baseball with him also. I don’t remember any smiths specifically. Also played american legion ball with cameron carter.

Random: I remember there was a kid about my age that got his head blown off accidentally with a shotgun setting in a truck before school with one of his buddies. Had to be around my junior or senior year(97-99). They both played baseball and I always felt awful for the guy that survived.

My condolences on your father; I haven’t lost a parent yet and fear the day that it happens.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 28, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh, moran, Mcdowell was their last name, not smith

smith was the last name of the girl i was crushing on back in the day.

i remember that story. i think one of them was my distant cousin. i think everyone’s related to everyone down there.

and thanks, dad was real sick for a long time. he’s been gone a year & a half. but it doesn’t seem like it’s been that long. weird.

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 29, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mcdowell doesn't ring a bell

and I agree on the odd family tree.

How much over 30 are you anyway?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 29, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

might as well say i'm 32, it'll be official in 3 weeks anyway

his dad ran the ellsinore bank of grandan & is also a preacher at one of the baptist churchs. mike, big dude with a mustache. i hung out with justin all the time. and the smoot kids who grandpa ran the bank of grandan, and comb’s kids who dad ran the grocery store. and the pomeroy’s who lived right next door to us.

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 29, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

mike mcdowell

now sounds vaguely familiar, not so much any of the rest.

Small world here on the intertubes; now its back to studying for me.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 29, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW

I am originally from about 30 min NE of PB and find it interesting that someone else got out of there

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 28, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get paying that kind of money for something only used 8 times a year.

Besides, this is an awful football town.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

6ly

I never see football games anymore because no one wants to spend the money to go to the stadium. Why make them spend money on another stadium for a team they don’t care about and that they probably won’t frequent except maybe the first year?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

FLAGGED

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 29, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Her breastases hinder the whole word...

…maybe she likes collages. Haha.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe she just really likes scrapbooking.

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

she needs a cheeseburger.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll give her my cheeseburger...

…from McDonalds. Late night snack.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

deal!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

what do i get?

i’m the one who found her in the 1st place

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

You get maced...

when she finds out you’re on the sex offenders list.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

A pat on the back and a congratulatory note?

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's better than the mace

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh, of course i'm not

i had hoped that didn’t need to be verified

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh damn, I got 26 offenders living within a 5-mile radius of my house.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting...

…I also found someone I used to go to HS with on the registry….

Weird stuff, man.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

A girl that was in my class

is in the pokie now for having sex w/ some of her 16 year old students. There were a lot of jokes told in her name at our class reunion.

And there is a TON of offenders not far from my house living in the apartment complexes around Chippewa and Kings Highway in South City. Meanwhile, 3/4 of a mile away, I live in picture perfect America. It’s a weird area.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Makes me crave Ted Drewes

hearing you talk about that area.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Sep 29, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I never believed him FWIW

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh gdm, nobody really thinks you're a sex offender

2 chicks just backed you up. I think you’re probably safe.

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

you never know what will become a meme around here

i wanted to kill this one quick before it did

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wise decision.

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

"2 chicks just backed you up."

of course, that’s still illegal in much of the south.

it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie

by SleepyCA on Sep 29, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's the 1st & probably the last time you can say

gdm had two chicks do anything with or for him

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 29, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck yeah it is!

But no gays settling down

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 29, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I knew I was in for it...

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 29, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm sorry your name had to been soiled

by associating & defending the likes of me. f’in gdm

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 29, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I wasn't doing much to keep my name clean in the first place

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 29, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just playing man...

Don’t get all zoomzoom on me.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I lvoe it when usernames become verbs.

Wonder when I’ll get one? I’m usually called on only for photoshop work, lol

Don’t think I’m gettin’ verb’d anytime soon.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

how about we call any photoshops VEX's?

and we call you DJ VEX from now on for your mad remixin skillz on fire burning in the of?

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do whatcha gotta do.

I’ll be a DJ if’n you want. lol

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 29, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe it's called "Autotune the Outfield"

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion

by andi_k on Sep 29, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's whatever I call it!

And I don’t really care what it’s called…

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 29, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would like to personally thank Jake Delhomme...

for throwing a pick six and losing a fumble in the last five minutes of tonight’s game, causing me a second consecutive fantasy football loss in which I outscored every team in my league except for the team I was playing.

Nothing like sitting in 8th place while leading the league in total points by a wide margin. I fucking love throwing money away.

And I know you don’t care even a little, but I needed to vent.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

i care

SCREW YOU DELHOMME!!!!

(did that help any?)

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 28, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

hang in there; my baseball season started the same way and now I’m 6 days away from walking out of there with the championship!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 28, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

But I should easily be 3-0, and instead I’m 1-2 with at least one of my big guns having a bye in each of the next few weeks. it could get away from me in a hurry.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I, however, usedautopick

except to pick Peyton Manning and Jeremy Maclin and I am currently fifth in my league of all men who actually know and care about football and got another win this week. I have no idea what I’m doing though so i see a quick fall coming.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've got Peyton, too...

Jake Delhomme only caused my demise because my opponent had the Cowboys defense.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 29, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would like to thank my Early Childhood teacher

for putting terms on our Midterm that we have never had in class. Thanks a lot.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 29, 2009 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

But that's what makes college a challenge

Wouldn’t be any fun if it were easy…

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Sep 29, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another picture from the Denver Post of the double play that wasn't...

Let me check…let’s see here…yep, STILL no one out in the top of the 9th.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 29, 2009 12:43 AM EDT reply actions  

There was one out right?

Because the DP ended the inning?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 29, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah that...

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 29, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also...

We lead 5-4 now that Lugo and Skip have scored, Albert is at 3rd, Ludwick is at 1st, and Mark of Rose is batting. Let’s get some insurance runs.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 29, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

ofRose Sac flies, Ludwick advances to 2nd on the throw home.

Up 6-4, 1 out. Take it away.

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!

by vexedtechie on Sep 29, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Freese GIDPs...

Franklin loads the bases, walks in a run with 2 outs, gets a fly ball to Carey Ralston in CF.

Game over, Cards win 6-5.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 29, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

minus the GS

Albert’s numbers in Cincy haven’t been as eye-popping as you would expect. OPS in Great American is .772 with a double, 2 HRs, and 3 Ks in 22 ABs. They improve considerably when you count the home games, but he just doesn’t seem to like playing out there.

by EinFesteBusch on Sep 29, 2009 12:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Angels win the AL West

they just destroyed the Rangers

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 29, 2009 12:45 AM EDT reply actions  

sweet.

after losing Nick Adenhart, they’ve got a lot to play for

by EinFesteBusch on Sep 29, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

bobby abreu is not an intelligent man

they are interviewing him & ervin santana, and it’s awful

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 29, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

life ain't easy for el comedulce

but he can’t be any worse than Jack Clark

by EinFesteBusch on Sep 29, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we don't get Holliday next year

even though he should probably be a DH at this point, I’d love to get Abreu on a 1yr/10m contract. Him or Mike Cameron. Abreu is crazy under-rated these days (wierdly, for a guy whose value comes entirely from his bat).

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 6:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

watching 2006 World Series Game 1

7-1 Redbirds in the 6th.

Bring on October.

defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.

by effin fisk on Sep 29, 2009 2:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

The Internet's #1 St. Louis Cardinals blog.
Yahoo_full_count

Managers

Jack_benny__1__small DanUpBaby

Editors

Bendermad_small azruavatar

Trigun_001_small the red baron

Images_small tom s.

Authors

1989_bgh_cropped_small bgh

Valverde_medium_small vivaelpujols