Resting the Starters
The local handegg team had their home opener yesterday, and against my better judgment I joined momup and one cousinup for a trip to the EdwardJones Dome, which is apparently so run-down and antiquated fourteen years in that the Rams will have to move unless St. Louis drops $500 million in a series of unmarked official Rams logo briefcases at the location of a new stadium, which will last thirty years now that stadia tastes have crystalized forever. The new jumbo-jumbotron is really nice, though, except that with the renovations I'm pretty sure there is no clock, digital or analog, visible from the seats.
Anyway, football games always make me thankful for two things:
- Teams that pass the ball downfield.
- Baseball games.
Now that they've clinched I can say it: I like watching infielders in the outfield, sometimes. This seems like a bad time to play anybody but Colby Rasmus in center, since he seems in need of as many Getting Acclimated at-bats as he can possibly get, but giving Holliday a day off with flu-like symptoms and simultaneously giving David Freese a look at third? Excellent.
With the Cardinals' basic gameplan, in the last several games, centered around keeping Brendan Ryan from finding a way to injure another finger, we get an early taste of the pitched inaction of Hot Stove season. Take it away, Scott Boras:
"I don't even think that is going to be an issue," Boras said. "Rick Ankiel is going to go somewhere.
"There aren't many players who can play center field with his kind of power and his kind of arm strength. ... There are going to be a lot of teams who look at Rick as a substantial trade over what they have."
I'll say this for Boras: those are indeed Rick Ankiel's strengths. This isn't like those McDonalds ads that tout their weakest attribute, their indie-tinged whole foods cred, instead of the fact that their chicken mcnuggets are delicious. But even Scott Boras, as he's saying these words, has to hear the rebuttal: you've just named both his skills; now what?
Ankiel's a better player, I think, than he's shown this year; his anti-tools have been out in full force, and he's spent much of the year in a bad situation for a guy who was both a starter and the feel-good story of the decade this time last year. The Pirates seem like a recipe for disaster, if only by default, but as the big side of a platoon on some contender that does not have Colby Rasmus on it he's a good bounce-back candidate.
I love the Ankiel story in all its highs and lows; his curveball will always be my benchmark for outrageous pitches, and his outfield fastball has, as expected, brought about a few of my all-time favorite defensive jaw-droppers. But the bat not cooperating has done something I wouldn't have thought possible this past February—it's made me at peace, barring some playoff heroics au Natural, with an offseason departure that's been inevitable since before he ever started slumping.
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That fist looks scrawny
I suspect it belongs to a computer programmer or geneticist.
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I'm guessing that lifting
pipettes does little for their physique. Also, there was a geneticist in my circle of friends at college who was liable to slip through cracks in the floor.
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Sounds like
The market inefficiency for genetics companies would be to hire buff geneticists. Hell, they could study the genetics of their workers to see who could put on some muscle mass. ’Roided out geneticists could wield bigger pipettes=more work done no? After all, they are in the business of selling genes.
Moneynucleicacid.
Not afraid to nitpick
it does wonders for their wrist strength, though.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
MOOAAAAARRRR MOO JUICE!
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It's what pays the mortgage.
So I have moar enthusiasm than most.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea why this picture exists
but it seems appropriate

by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
What about somebody who's studying both?
Oh wait, that’s me. Aw.
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
guilty as well
with computational chemistry leanings
by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Internet high five!
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, I read in your profile that you're in Boston
Are you at Boston U? I almost went there for grad school. Just didn’t have the finances. That would have been something.
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Average age of VEB's readership
less than 30? It seems like there are a lot of current or recently graduated college students in these parts, myself included.
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You damn kids with yer rock music and yer internets!
(I have it on good authority it’s a series of tubes.)
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 28, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm 25 FWIW
I’d wager that the average age is under 30
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Dammit...
I’ve got six more month’s before I’m the average age of a VEBer…(under 30).
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
by cardzfanbub on Sep 28, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
somewhere in there...
I forgot the words no and longer.
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
by cardzfanbub on Sep 28, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
10 months left here
time for my centrum silver
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I left thirty about nine years back. As of yesterday.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Sooo...
does that mean yesterday was your birthday? If so, then a happy belated birthday!
by cardsgirl95 on Sep 28, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you cardgirl!
Yes, that was a blatant and totally shameless plug for some B’day attention. You figured me out.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Happy Belated Birthday
enjoy 39 and remember that 40 ain’t no thang… it’s 41 that royally sucks
Don't ping my cheese with your bandwidth.
by RosevilleRedbird on Sep 28, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you
Thirty was pretty bad. I can’t think that any of them will be worse until I hit sixty.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
My dad turns 60 on Saturday
He is excited though since he is retiring
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh crap,
by extension does that mean I am in for it in a couple months with the big 51?
by ArkansasTravs on Sep 28, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Piss off.
Sorry, but that just NEEDED to be said.
(approaching thirty faster than is comfortable with)
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I understood it needed to be said.
I thought what I said needed to be said as well.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I'm closer to 30 than I am to the age I graduated high school
Lame
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
yay for young people!
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Same
for those who care.
Really, the only bad part of bacon is that it makes you thirsty . . . for more bacon
I'm also 25
I understand you only use the term “Gen Y’ers” descriptively, and it is accurate. But I’ve always hated it.
Anybody know what the term “millenials” actually means, when it comes to describing an age range or generation or whatever? Does it mean you were born after 2000 or something?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I don't think so.
Just because I’ve read some sociological studies on “millenials” that discussed voting patterns. Obviously, to be voting, millenials would have to have been born before 2000. Not that I know the definition or anything…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Then I guess it means people who "came of age" at the beginning of the 2000's
Which would probably mean me. Damn it, another silly pop-sociology term to contend with.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Might as well add to the ranks.
25, also.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
"Snowflakes"
I seem to remember a discussion last season where we were all slammed for thinking that we were special snowflakes. Does anyone else remember this? My takeaway from that discussion was that many of us were under 30.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Supposedly...
…Gen Y’ers refer to those between 0-30 years old, who run the economy (according to Hollywood and Wall Street); Gen X’ers (Woohoo!), are between 30-50 years old, and hate everything the baby Boomers and Gen Y’ers love (true dat!). And the Boomers, well, we all know who they are.
I don’t necessarily agree with all this stuff, but that is the general outlook of Corporate America. it would seem that Gen Y’ers, especially the younger ones (teens, tweens, etc), have moore discretionary income than anyone else, hence why everything (moovies, tv, moosic, etc) is geared towards them.
For a crusty old cow (43) like myself, it would be nice to see a tv show or moovie that does not involve a teenager, or moosic from people who actually know how to play instruments (as opposed to aping them via video games). But that’s just me…
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
So does that make a
39yo like myself just an old piece of crap who needs to move into a nursing home? I hope not.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 28, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
To the death panel with this one!
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Death Panels, run by the Church of England
CAKE or DEATH?
Cake.
Well alright, then, you can go.
CAKE or DEATH?
Um, cake, please.
Very well.
CAKE or DEATH?
Cake.
C’mon, we can’t be giving out cake to everybody, we’re running low.
Well, can I still have some?
Here you go.
CAKE or DEATH?
Death.
Really?
No, I’m just kidding. Cake, please.
No, no, no, I heard you say Death.
No, I was just messing around.
Well, since we’re the Church of England, cake it is.
[NOTE: Not to be confused with the Crucifixion bit from Life of Brian.]
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
Well, we're all out of cake. We only ordered the two bits and we didn't expect there to be such a rush...
So my choice is “or death”???
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Thank you
I didn’t bother looking it up, just riffing on the general theme. Normally my brother is so helpful in correcting in matters such as these, but he’s not paying attention to me.
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
Heh
I doubt I have it perfectly. But man I love me some Eddie Izzard.
Yes, what is it Leftenant Sebastian?
Well, it’s just the rebels, sir… they’re here.
My god man!!… Do they want tea?
No, I’m afraid they’re after something more than that, sir. I don’t know what it is, but they’ve brought a flag.
Damn! That’s dash cunning of them!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Dude don't give them any ideas.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
So much for the judgment that baseball can't attract young people.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Musial
They just have to be young people who are smart.
So in other words, the sport is doomed. Dooooomed!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I love when we pry someone out
from the depths of lurking.
alberich -
UID: 147
comments: 37
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Have i really posted 37?
I’d have said about 5 …
Being a humble man (outside my own field), I come to learn rather than argue.
I’m also so much older than most of the people here I don’t write the language very well.
UID
what is that? Should I have one?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
You are number 2111
(it’s your old school user id)
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
sweet
how does one look at that?
NVM, I see it now. I’m a moran!
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
there sure seem to be a lot of morans on this site
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
step one in the art of stalking...
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
still not as old as I am
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
im willing to bet that is true
or at least they are the most vocal.
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
and by they i mean we
as i am 27
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
Also
I was just thinking — I believe DanUp is about my age. The fact that he writes so brilliant for a site largely full of people that are his elders and never disappoints impresses me. (And, of course, I should extend this to chuckb and baron, who write just as brilliantly. Thanks. [And also to lboros, if you’re out there — we still love you, you crazy old coot.])
Every once in a while I just think we should sit back and be thankful for this great community. I don’t really have anyone else with whom to talk intelligently about Cardinals baseball, so I don’t know what I’d do if this place wasn’t so shockingly, mind-bogglingly, consistently high in quality. I’d probably have to, I dunno, actually do work or something.
I appreciate the kind words
Writing on a schedule is a lot more difficult than posting once a week whenever I felt like it was, but I’m hoping it gets easier sometime before I reach the ostensible average age of this site. Even if it doesn’t it’s been worth getting to be a part of this community, which is truly and inexplicably ridiculous.
I'll pull it down to our level too... 22 hurr.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
RIGHT HERE
though zoom zoom and rasmusgirl got me.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Respectively, I believe.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
yes
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
19 years and 4.25 months
suck on that.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm at MIT for another couple months (hopefully defending in December)
I’d be happy with your decision to stay in the south. I decided to come here over UCSD and have regretted the decision for 5 winters running.
by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
im sure the regret wont last once you have your
degree(s) from MIT…
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
i almost went to MIT for grad school
but i stayed in california for a girl (and to attend a better grad school, at least in my field) — and it was the best decision i ever made.
wait, there are other VEBers in Boston?
holy shit, I thought I was the only one taking up residence in the center of the the axis of evil of the sports world. Anyone know if there are any bars in boston that cardinals fans tend to frequent?
I've heard that the Uno's on Boylston has some cards fans
but I’ve never been myself
by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I am the Card fan at the Uno's on Boylston
I live across the street. Unfortunately, they got rid of the MLB satellite package this year, so I ended up ordering it for myself. However, in past years, the Cards game was always on a couple of TVs there if I happened to come in.
I’m interested how you heard about that, considering it is basically just me, and occasionally this less-serious Cardinal fan.
by olddomination on Sep 28, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Your solitary stand against the evil tide that is Beantown must be legendary
and is known throughout the city.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
i am in boston too
are any cards fans gonna meet up here for any playoff games? (hopefully well into the postseason)
yeah, I'd definitely be up for something like that
right now I’m limited to mlb.tv, so it’d be fun to actually meet up with some other cardinals fans and watch a game.
ok
when it gets to the postseason we can plan something (is it ok to do a fanpost in this vein?). in ‘06 a few of us VEBer’s got together for a few games, including the final WS game, and it was a blast.
Not counting Card games I've been to at Shea/Fenway
I’ve only known two other real Cardinal fans in my life, so it would be a completely new experience to watch a game among other fans.
by olddomination on Sep 28, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I know Jeff Roman lives in Boston.
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
indeed
though I think he has basically sworn off watching sports in Boston bars. I’ll try to coax him out some time this postseason.
by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Uno's in Boston
Don’t know if the Uno’s near Fenway is the one on Boylston, but my brother and I ate there before catching a game there back on 6/12/2003 (that ugly extra-inning affair when Rolen busted up his shoulder; also our 30th birthday – not Rolen’s, he’s an Aries). I remember going there and eating their Chicago-style chili, which I thought was funny, because I live in the Chicago burbs and usually have their New England clam chowder.
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
I'm actually using the ticket stub to that game as a bookmark
By the 11th, most of the bleachers were Cards fans. Larussa was at the top of his game in that one, consistently walking Manny with men on to get to Trot Nixon, who kept popping up.
I believe the forgettable Garrett Stephenson started that one.
by olddomination on Sep 28, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
This post mentions it, but it must have been mentioned previously on VEB, cause I know the poster and he definitely didn’t have first hand knowledge.
by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
The "Cards Bar" monicker I made up
When joking with my friend who is the bartender there if the Cardinals weren’t on one of the TVs. “What’s up with these Red Sox and New York games on? I thought this was a Cahds Bahr?”
But having two semi-regulars who are Cards fans probably does constitute a “Cards Bar” in Boston.
And no, the Uno’s near Fenway is not the one we’re speaking of. Nor is the one in Northeastern University. This one is the one across from the Lord and Taylor’s downtown.
by olddomination on Sep 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Never been in the bar,
but that is, hands down, the nicest Lord and Taylor’s I’ve ever been in.
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a shitty restaurant
There’s good music if my friend is bartending, they have a lot of tvs, nfl package…but unfortunately no mlb satellite.
And it takes me a minute to walk to.
by olddomination on Sep 28, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Always nice to have an establishment in quick walking distance.
Unfortunately, where I live, I have to get in my car to do anything. It sucks.
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Well this is a pretty awesome sub-thread
I dunno who’s fist it is. Thank google images. I recommend you have “safe search” on if you’re going to type “fist” into it, though.
I actually am a geneticist (which you might’ve already known) in the medical field (i.e. I don’t sell genes, I test them for heritable diseases), and I do have relatively scrawny wrists (I have to wear a wrist strap when I’m playing volleyball because I bust my right wrist about 9 years ago and it’s still a bit weak). I do go to the gym to supplement my pipette-lifting, however.
Also, I’m guessing I’m at about the mean age here – 29.
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 4:53 AM EDT up reply actions
who's = whose.
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 4:53 AM EDT up reply actions
A friend of my just got back from a conference in Cambridge (UK)
Genomics of Common Diseases, I believe. He said he saw some pretty impressive work on sequencing the exome of two parents and two children and nailing the genetic causes of Mendelian diseases in no time.
by brackenthebox on Sep 29, 2009 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Your profession must have rooted itself somewhere in my memory
I don’t generally sling barbs at the genetics community but at the time, it seemed apt. Turned out it was!
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I hope Ank does catch on as a starter somewhere else
As awful as he’s looked and for how much I can’t stand seeing him play given his current sucking (not funny ironic ha-ha sucking, 50% of PAs ending in Ks sucking) and there being a clear ‘better than him at every aspect of the game’ option, I’m still rooting for the guy long term.
Strangely though I get a weird feeling he’s going to a chance in the postseason and run into a 784 foot home run at a big time. Gotta love being super biased. I’d settle for those 784 feet being spread over two HRs but my hopes aren’t high.
Not afraid to nitpick
I really wonder what Rick could do
if he had a different hitting coach other than Hal McRae. Somebody to make Rick a more complete hitter (if that’s possible).
I think Rick’s best chance to have a longer career is to get out of St. Louis and learn a different approach at the plate, get a different instructor other than Hal.
Of course I would like to see what a lot of our guys could do with a different hitting coach. I know this sounds like I hate Hal McRae….I really don’t. I really respect the guy and the career he had with the Royals. But I am ready for a new hitting coach next year.
Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon
Disagree.
It’s skillset he is missing not a new approach. He swings and misses a lot. Yes he gets fooled like all other hitters but he swings and misses A LOT. That’s skill not approach. Good hitters can hit no matter the hitting coach. And you can’t tell me he isn’t taking extra BP or being coached/watching film right now. It is probably time to accept the fact that he’s not an everyday player. He will probably have a ok career as a platoon or 4th outfielder. Nothing wrong with that.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Sep 28, 2009 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I think the league has caught up to him
it does sometimes happen that a new player goes on a tear for 6 months or so, and then disappears off the face of the earth after all the pitchers and scouts work out what his weaknesses are.
I think he’s a reasonable bounce-back candidate next year but I’m expecting a bounce back to , say, a .750-odd OPS, instead of the .800+ we were all hoping for this year. I can’t really see him being an above average player in the majors going forward.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 4:58 AM EDT up reply actions
A lot of it is just not being a hitter to begin with IMO
He hasn’t had the repetition (and won’t ever get that chance before his skills erode) necessary to be good at pitch recognition and that ultimately is his problem. . Plus he never even had the true progression up the minor league ladder to progressively build that skill up. Obviously when he connects the ball goes a long way but he just can’t make that regularly happen given his inability to control the strikezone/recognize breaking balls.
He’s seen something like ~5000 pitches in his professional career in 1800 PAs, Rasmus at age 23 has more professional PAs and he didn’t take 7 years off from focusing on hitting. Ankiel before this year’s disaster was a .250 ISO type hitter which is just absurd when you think about his career path. Gotta wonder had he been a hitter to begin with how good he could have been: .280 .380 .550 is hardly a stretch if you even marginally revise up his 07/08 numbers with the development of any semblance of plate discipline.
Not afraid to nitpick
He's a superb athlete
I tend to think you might be right about how good he MIGHT’VE been as a hitter.
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 4:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I have always had this feeling in the back of my mind
that somewhere down the road in his mid thirties,, Ankiel will be inticed by somebody or some organisation to go back to the mound.
That is really where he should be. What an effective loogy he could be…and he just have the maturity of mind at that time to do it. Shame it probably won’t be the Cardinals but that is the one thought that always make me hinge on the thought of giving up on Ankiel.
and less beef!
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone remember John Nelson being called up in 2006?
I saw him in a highlight from that September on KSDK last night and couldn’t help to think he might be the most non-descript call up of all time.
And still… No Allen Craig.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Shortstop, right?
I barely remember it, and I barely remember him doing nothing!
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
not enough games left! Boog still has 8 fingers to go!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Mateo reference in Miklasz's Rams column...
Still, unless you’re a hotshot prospect signed out of the Dominican Republic by the baseball Cardinals, you could see that Boller kick-started the Rams offense.
A bit much? Column
Wait --
Still, unless you’re a quadriplegic trapped in a wheelchair due to Addison’s disease, you could see that Boller’s movement added another facet to the Rams’ offense.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Sep 28, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
HFS ®
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I'll be starting at the P-D on Wednesday.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
you want some plastic bags?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Still unless you’re a morbidly obese sportswriter, you could see . . . .
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Sep 28, 2009 11:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Dear me
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a House allusion
just so everyone doesn’t think I a meaner robot than I actually am.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
I agree on NFL fans
And if you ever want to meet some ugly, angry fans go to a ‘football’ game in europe.
by _pistol_ on Sep 28, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
it depends where you go, really
in England there’s a saying – rugby is a thug’s game played by gentlemen, and football/soccer is a gentlemen’s game played/watched by thugs. Although actually, England/Scotland might be one of the better countries to go in terms of a watching experience – actual crowd violence (which is still quite common in club football in Italy, Turkey, Poland, Germany and a few other places) has basically been completely extinguished in England since the 80s.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I've seen green Street Hooligans
and that was made in 2005. I’m not fooled.
/I let Hollywood tell me everything about life.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
There is something poetic about the Rams' awfulness.
I kept becoming confused as I lazily followed the game on TV. At some point I thought I heard them announce that Bulger was warming up, making me think, “who is that other guy then?” No, it was Boller. The similar sounding name seems appropriate since apparently they’re doomed to lose no matter who is out there. One of their offensive line “stars” is named Incognito. Their third string QB is apparently named Null. You can’t make this stuff up.
Also, I had no idea that Leonard Little was still in football, let alone still playing with the Rams.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 11:01 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I like the poetry slam better
I’m not in a pennant race, but at least I have some pride. … When you go out there and you turn your TV on and watch stupid-ass football when those — football players don’t give a — about you, that’s embarrassing.
“We have how many games, seven games they have to put their — together. Because I don’t mind losing games. That’s part of the game. But when you lose games and you don’t even care about it, we’re going to have problems. … Getting your ass kicked like that, then all of a sudden you’re watching football games, that’s a bunch of —.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
That was one of the best rants ever.
The chair slam at the end totally made it.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
Football vs. Baseball -- In-Person
I’ve never really enjoyed watching a football game in-person, at the stadium. It doesn’t matter if it’s college or pro. However, I love watching baseball games in person. I can’t really put my finger on why this is, but this is my preference.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I like both.....
As long as I have a vested interest in the football game, or it is the right “atmosphere.”
Matt Holliday. Nuff said.
by SoonerfanTU on Sep 28, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
my vested interest
in tonights game is a total score of 49 or more. Or one punt into the video screen
I disagree...
I love a solid college football game in person… pro… enjoy, but not nearly as much.
Proud to be a member of The Night of the Longest Train Wreck Ever (9/10/09)
I love college football games.
I am not really a football fan but I love going to football games here.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Death Valley is a prettty awesome place if you're a Clemson fan...
still remember my school (UVa) being something line 0-42 at Death Valley ’till they finally won a game there. Ugh…
youneverknow
by floodOfLove on Sep 28, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd Moooch Rather...
…watch College basketball, especially in person, ESPECIALLY during Tourney-Time!
Go ’Nova!!!!!
:=8D
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
College Basketball is awesome.
It’s my second favorite sport. Not Pro, College. I hate Pro basketball.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Dear 'Nova...
Signed,
-Tar Heels Devotee
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
Yep, all the way to Detroit, huh?
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
GO TAR HEELS!!!
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
TAR!
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
gag me w/ a smurf
Please don’t mention those inbred fools from Norf Cackalackee. I’m a Virginia Cavalier guy, and expect us to be good sometime before the Cubs win it all.
youneverknow
So, after we've all died?
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
I guess
… in a lesser of two evils sort of way. Dookies are pretty annoying too, but at least they’re creative.
youneverknow
he probably just likes them because of Psycho T
he should be ashamed of himself. Mizzou BBall is almost back.
i love Duke too. between them, the Yanks & Cowboys, i’m surprised i’m still alive.
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i've always been a big Mizzou BBall fan
and that game was awesome.
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Well I don't give a shit about Mizzou...
But nothing makes my dick hard like Memphis getting trampled.
V, b.
i think you're going to be, um,,,
not being able to stand in a crowd for most of the winter this year
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They'll be okay...
But most of my disdain for them has been transferred to Kentucky, which already had plenty of my disdain. It’s amazing how quickly a Final Four team can come to be when you play by a different set of rules.
V, b.
I hate Duke.
I think you misunderstood that part.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
no, i got it
i know i’m a fan of the axis of evil in sports, and i’m OK with it
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GO ZAGS>>>>>>
Boo ACC, BCS, etc.
"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR Passan
by RiverRat on Sep 28, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh you poor thing...
“We’re really good until we get to the 2nd round!”
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
Considering where this program is
and where it was 10 or so years ago, I will take it. Also, look out for them in the next 2-3 years. Phenomenal 7 player freshman class, lots of international guys. They’re going to be a tough team for a while.
Also, I’d put their OOC schedule this year against any Conference schedule out there. Mich St, Duke, Illinois, Wake, OK and Memphis. They aren’t screwing around.
"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR Passan
gonzaga always has a stacked OOC schedule to impress the committee
because they know that once they get into their conference play, they simply blow through their schedule playing inferior teams.
looking at the games you mentioned, i’ll say gonzaga does no better than 3-3 in those games.
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
And I'd take that....
The tough OOC gives them a back up plan for an at large bid if they happen to not win the WCC Tourney. I’d really like to see them move into the MWC or something, but the lack of a football program really hurts when it comes to moving conferences. NCAA should just move the BBall program into PAC 10.
"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR Passan
I don't understand why...
the Pac-10 doesn’t poach BYU and Utah from the Mountain West. Both have very food football and basketball programs, plus they’d represent one more set of regional pairs to keep up that trend (USC-UCLA, Cal-Stanford, Arizona-Arizona State, Oregon-Oregon State, Washington-Washington State). I love that about the Pac-10.
But most importantly, you could split up the 12 into divisions and play a conference championship game in football, which is a straight cash cow. That was the major motivation for the ACC to expand. They watched the SEC and Big 12 cash in on that every year and they finally did the sensible thing.
The Big 10 could add a team and do the same thing, but it doesn’t seem like they want anyone other than Notre Dame, and that isn’t happening.
V, b.
the best sport to watch in person
has gotta be hockey, well with two equal teams. Although the keil/savis/scott trade isn’t even close to the old checker dome. I remember the loudest sporting event i have ever been to has in the mid 90’s at the checker dome for a blues/ red wing game. you had to yell at the person next to you. Loudness aside tv does no justice to a in person hockey game. post season baseball is better, but i have never been to a post season hockey or football game.
Also the stadium also helps, the ej dome is a piece of shit to the nth degree, i’d had rather watched a football game in bush II (never did). i’d watched the steelers play the oilers/titans in memphis @ the liberty bowl, and its rained 2 inches it was still a better experince than the 2 games if have seen at the ej dome. anyone who says baseball was better in the old ash tray known as busch II, than busch III, all i have to say is: what are you smoking and where can i get some?
"Chuck Norris CAN divide by zero"
it looks like someone forgot about curling...
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
i will stand up for curling
And say the one time I played, it was fun.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Sep 28, 2009 12:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
After my own heart.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
how could sweeping ice
not be fun?
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
Hockey is pretty great
I definitely love Baseball the most on TV and in person by far, but Hockey is my second favorite sport to see. Hopefully I’ll get to catch a Blues game in Chicago this year. Tix at UC are so pricey though…
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
Need to do the same
Still haven’t caught one yet in the 13 years I’ve been up here. You might see me there – I’ll be the non-descript white guy with the random polo.. Say Hi when you do. J/k … I bought a sweet personalized, alternate home jersey this winter and am looking forward to showing it off.
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
Oooo
I like those 3rd jerseys!! I was at the Hawks Preseason opener this season. It was my first game at UC and I have to say I was kind of moderately appalled at the tradition(?) of clapping through the entire national anthem. It just seems like a dumb redneck thing to do, but then again these are the same fans that root for the cubs, so I guess it makes sense.
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
Ive only seen concerts at the UC
but it seems to me that there wouldnt be a bad seat in the house there for a hockey game
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 28, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
We sat in the upper corner
and saw everything. It was a great venue esp. for its age.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Stadiums
I don’t really like the atmosphere in any of the newer stadiums I’ve seen any professional sport in. They don’t even approach the atmosphere of a Busch II, which shook when something amazing happened. Now, in the new, open designs, the collective noise of the hometown faithful seems to be lost to the open air. Comparing Mile High to the new corporate Broncos stadium, for instance, is worthless because there is no comparison. I just hope the Chiefs don’t get a new stadium.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
If they move from Arrowhead...
…there will be a literal riot. My KC acquaintances would literally lay down in the stands to prevent detonation.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 28, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I sold beer one year at Busch.
1983. I was working a couple jobs. In the evenings during homestands I’d head down to the stadium and sell beer, back in the days when they were longnecked bottles. Hard work, and pretty much of a drag since I always preferred to be watching the games, but I needed the dough. It had its moments. I was there the night Forsch threw his second no-hitter. I stopped selling entirely and watched the 9th inning from a box seat.
We were asked to sell beer at a couple preseason football games, too. I hated it. The tenor of the crowd changed noticeably between baseball and football. The people were more demanding, less friendly, in general more full of themselves. The atmosphere in the stadium was just different. It’s not all that surprising. The two sports have a very different feel.
by Youneverknow on Sep 28, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
what was your beer call?
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
Did you know Buschy-Wooshy Beer Man?
I loved that guy.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
Baseball is my favorite but I still like football.
I enjoy my Cardinal games and stuck with them through the bad and good times. Thank goodness there have been more good. I will do the same for the Rams. I miss the greatest show on turf but remember the Tony Banks days too. Hopefully I will live to see them turn this thing around. The guys that sit near us at the games are harmless. I’m used to their noise. Basically they are great guys
From Straussy,
in the game story:
With rookie infielder Tyler Greene playing his first professional game in center field and Mark DeRosa making his Cardinals debut in right field, the Cardinals fell behind 2-0 before rallying on first baseman Albert Pujols’ three-run double for a brief lead.
This sentence about sums up the months of September during the TLR Era, doesn’t it?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Time for another Kuh-razy Sub-tember!!!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
But we usually read endless stories
about how TLR keeps the team “focused”. Whatev.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
He does that all year.
Keep everyone sharp and ready to contribute. It worked great with So…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Thursday's lineup
should be interesting. 12:30 pm start after a night game. I heard Glaus might be ready to play.
2 idle thoughts -
1) Perhaps tony looks at tyler as a possible bench player next year. Both rasmus and the next in line prospect (Jay, presuming sugar shane does not impress anybody) are LH. If tony wants a RH to take the odd game in CF v. a LHP, there are crazier people to put there than tyler.
2) Rick Ankiel to the White Sox? Gut feeling.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Sep 28, 2009 11:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ankiel in Toronto Next Year....
is my gut feeling. Well, one of four, anycow…
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
OOTP Baseball 10
I traded Ankiel to Toronto in my first season at the helm. Don’t remember who I got for him (I make a lot of transactions), but he’s doing fairly well (now with Cincinnati in 2012).
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
Sugar Shane is a Sacramento River Cat
by SouthsideCardsFan on Sep 28, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought that was" Sugar 2" Shane Peterson?
As opposed to Sugar Shane Robinson? Or do I have them mixed up now? Gah.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
yeah peterson is with the oakland org.
Robinson is still with us but doesn’t seem to have impressed anybody.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Sep 28, 2009 12:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So you're saying he does all the little things right,
plays 110% every moment of the game, and can’t hit, throw, field, or run very well?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
good at fielding and running.
You still can’t make a career out of that,
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Sep 28, 2009 5:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I actually wonder, if Mather doesn't make it back to some semblance of his former level,
whether we’ll have to go outside the org for a RH 4th OF who can play CF next year. It’s kinda annoying that the three best OF prospects who might make it to the show in the next 3 years (Jay, Henley, Jones) are all southpaws. Rasmus should play every day, I suppose, but I still feel that our ideal bench OF bat would probably be right-handed and capable of playing CF. I’m not sure Allen Craig is that guy.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Kinda makes sense...
I know Kenny’s expressed reservation on passing up Dye’s option.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Permission to use this as my new sig?
Anyway, football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games.
DanUp
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
sweet thanks!
You’re the best DanUp!!
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
The biggest Rams fan I know
was born and raised in NewYork. All of my friends from St. Louis choose another football team to cheer for if they cheer for one at all.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
one of those ppl
but growing up in the late 80’s/early 90’s there wasn’t a football team, and i couldn’t bare routing for a team in arizona. lots of family from pa, steelers pretty blue collar it works for me. just my non-rams reasoning
"Chuck Norris CAN divide by zero"
i don't get how someone can pull for a team that should be in LA
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NLDS Game 4 (if neither club sweeps)
Do you start Lohse or Smoltz? Lohse appears to be regaining some of his ‘08 form and will be under contract for tens of millions of dollars for three more seasons. Smoltz in the ’pen is palatable, but shouldn’t TLR use Smoltz out of the ’pen before the second week of October to make sure that this is a viable strategy?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
if Smoltz can be used out of the pen
then i am all for Lohse starting a couple games. If Smoltzy can’t handle throwing on back to back days or even every other day then i say let him start. Unless we are facing the Phillies; too many good lefties.
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
+1
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Definitely Lohse...
…so we can benefit from mooore innings with Smoltz in the ’pen.
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
i would hope the answer is neither (nlds that is)
with the right days off TLR shouldn’t have to use either one and that would be how i would want it.
"Chuck Norris CAN divide by zero"
oh for crying out loud.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
It's a losing battle, Alex.
Just accept it.
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Tony's Jedi Mind Tricks
I watched on TBS and loved as I tuned in and Buck Martinez stated in all seriousness,
“Despite clinching, Tony LaRussa is still going with his “A” team today." I thought really? Martinez repeated it several times. Then they did live interview with Tony wherein he stated that this was all the starters except Holliday. Again, really?
When did Freese become the starter at 3b? When did DeRosa become a starter in RF? And most of all, since when is Tyler Freaking Greene the starter in CF.
I really didn’t care what the lineup was, but lets not pretend that was the typical starting lineup for the Birds.
And gee, wouldn’t Allen Craig have looked pretty good in LF for that lineup?
Allen Craig would have looked great in LF.
The national broadcasters are not very good. They often make statements about clubs and players that are patently false. It’s frustrating. ESPN’s are the worst about doing this, and, since Buck used to call games for ESPN, I’m not really surprised that he would call a lineup with a SS making his first MLB start in CF an “”http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=a-team&docid=1316302290953&FORM=VIRE#" >A Team."
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
For the record...
They often make statements about clubs and players that are patently false.
Mike Shannon does this, too. I usually just shake my head and chuckle a bit…it’s usually later in games when this happens.
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
"...later in the game..."
Hmmmm. I wonder why that could be.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
probably just a coincidental thing...
he’s even more enjoyable after a lengthy rain delay.
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
Shannon actually said "Cincinnapolis" during yesterdays game
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 28, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
they really aren't national broadcasters
buck calls O’s games & that other douche calls the brew crew games. he was so obviously biased it wasn’t even funny. 6ly, i can’t stand that douche.
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same guys, different positions?
Lugo – usual position (starts against lefties)
Ryan – usual position (starter)
Pujols – usual position (starter)
Ludwick – LF, not RF (starter)
DeRosa – RF, not 3B (starter)
Freese – 3B (not a starter)
LaRue – C (yadi’s status?)
Greene – CF (not a starter)
Freese replaces Holliday and moves DeRosa to RF, moving Ludwick to LF.
Greene replaces Rasmus in CF, because the kid still hasn’t earned a starting position. (he needs to keep the fire burning in the outfield)
so in TLR’s eyes, that was his A-team minus Holliday
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
It looks to me like he's trying out some
different ideas against left handed starting pitching, and we’re going to see a lot of that in the playoffs, mind you.
If you put Holliday back in the lineup, I think you get the same lineup only with Ludwick in CF and Greene on the bench. Freese is much better defensively than DeRosa is at 3B, DeRosa is a solid if unspectacular RF, and Ludwick can hold his own in CF (In fact, he’s probably better than either Skip or Ankiel in CF, imo). If Freese can hit while playing at 3B, then he becomes the guy they put on the postseason roster, leaving Troy Glaus off. But you have to see if he’s going to hit before you can do that — it’s pretty obvious that Glaus isn’t hitting.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
You're right.
I firmly believe that lineup you descirbe—Holliday in LF, DeRosa in RF, Ludwick in CF, and Freese at 3B—could very well be penciled in for the next regular season game versus a lefty starter.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I think this is a very good idea as well
It’s obvious that neither Ankiel or Rasmus can hit left handed pitching, so it makes more sense to shift things around defensively to get someone who might fare better (Freese) in the lineup.
To be totally honest, I’m not sure why Ankiel would even be on the post season roster. You have DeRosa, who can play the OF corners, Schu and Ludwick can man any of the OF positions, and you have a better bat, imo, in Freese to face LH pitching. He doesn’t take good AB’s late and close, he doesn’t do well pinch hitting, so I see no reason to carry him when you don’t have to.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
On the subject of Rasmus,
I wonder how to go about fixing him against LH, or is this going to be his Achilles’ Heel.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
His career minor league platoon splits are nowhere near as bad as this season.
So, there is hope that he could improve moving forward.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
He doesn't look that lost either
Not that I necessarily put much stock in that, but when he’s facing even tougher lefties, he doesn’t “look” as bad as Ank/Dunc have this year, so I feel that there’s hope.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:13 AM EDT up reply actions
For that matter,
I don’t think that Khalil or Thursty should be on the postseason roster. As far as I’m concerned, Ankiel, Khalil, and Thursty can watch the games at Brian Barden’s house. After all, if we win, they’ll all get a ring even if they don’t get a champagne bath.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Don't thank me.
Thank Rob Neyer, or, as I look at the Fanshots bar, our prolific fanshooter Yadi2Second.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I do a lot of shots.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
wild turkey?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I would think Y2S is more of a jello shot guy
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
reading my profile, are you
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
at first I thought it was cotton candy and pickles
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
I don't like sour. sweet tooth will get me into trouble, though.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
They could have a four-man champagne man stew
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
math problem
exclude all those guys and the NLDS roster ends up having 14 pitchers. From what I’ve read, the Cards are planning to carry 14 position players and 11 pitchers into the NLDS. The Aug 31 25 man plus DL had 14 position players and 14 pitchers. The Cards would have to DL someone to make any other position player eligible for the postseason. And the players union won’t look to kindly on phantom injuries to Thursty or Ank. Kbot and Glaus are another story.
So IMO the choice is four from Ankiel, Thurston, Glaus (or dl sub 1), Kbot (or dl sub 2) , Welly, Thompson and Boggs.
OK,
I would go with Glaus, if healthy, Boggs, Allen Craig, and Ankiel, in case we need an emergency closer in Game 7 or something.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
sidebar says...
Glaus may be ready to resume play. I hope it’s one of Freese or Glaus that we take to the postseason, and JT gets omitted.
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
Buck Martinez
At least he has an excuse…. He does not cover the Cards.
I did not get the TBS game being from Iowa I had to watch the game with Rick Horton and Jay Randolph announcing. I wish I was able to watch the TBS game.
Jay Randolph is absolutely terrible. I honesty don’t know why he announces games anymore. Joe Morgan is honestly better than him. Randolph is so confused it’s not even funny…
Was that the FS Midwest broadcast?
In Des Moines, we used to get the Sunday games back when the St. Louis CW affiliate carried them. Since the St. Louis NBC affiliate carries them these days, we no longer get them.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
No it was the Channel 5 broadcast....
FS Midwest does every game except Sunday games. News Channel 5 in STL does those games and I have a local channel that must pick up the News Channel 5 game.
Rick Horton is not bad, but Jay just makes listening tough.
There seems to be a lot of anti-Ricky Horton sentiment out there
But I don’t mind him too much. It could just be that it’s by comparison to Dan n’ Al and Randolph.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Spants had the best description of Rick
Basically, he says as much dumb stuff as Al, he just says it pleasantly and with a boy next door grin, so you don’t really notice it.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
exactly while i hate ricky. not as much as AL, but i still hate him
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next year we will have Cal, and all will be right with the world
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
That, and that his voice is harder to zone out. I don't even notice Al anymore.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
+1
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
ankiel
Does anyone here really think that boras would say anything else about ankiel? He’s his agent and wants to make as much money as possible for ankiel, as well as himself. I really wish ank the best of luck next year as i see little to no chance him being back. He just seems to have fallen off the mountain this year, to find pitches to hit, i keep wondering why anyone throws him a fastball anymore. I look forward to some of the youth to take his spot and do a better job
"Chuck Norris CAN divide by zero"
OT: Adam Dunn watch!
Dunn has seven games to hit exactly two home runs. If he hits EXACTLY two homers, he will have his fifth straight year with exactly 40 homers. And that, my friends, is awesome.
Adam Dunn...
if only he didn’t hate baseball..and America.
(J/K, that would indeed be awesome.)
That's incredible.
The odds of four seasons in a row with exactly 40 HR, let alone, five, has to be almost infinitesimal.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
The odds would be ridiculous...
unless he’s a quitting, baseball-hating quitter, who quits trying to hit homeruns once he reaches 40 for the year. We know he doesn’t play for love of the game, he probably just wants the personal fame and glory of achieving such a “rare” statistical feat. He probably rolls his eyes a lot and makes rude gestures during the National Anthem.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Motivation
Because he hates baseball, he does it for the stat heads who can punch it into the spreadsheets they have saved on the computers sitting in their mother’s basements. He doesn’t do it to help win games or anything like that, this much is certain.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Exactly
He wishes, just like all of us here do, that baseball only existed in computers. But he was cursed by God with the talent for hitting monstrous homeruns. So now he acts as an agent on the inside. It’s really quite devious.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
the dude will never make anything of himself in baseball
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Odds are 50%
Either he does or doesn’t.
Oversimplification for the win.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
That's a Yogi Berra-esque statement, IMO.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
EJ Dome
I Have been away from St Louis for close to 2 decades now. What is wrong with the EJ Dome. How can anything be wrong with it— it is only 15 years old or so.
The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!
there isn't really anything wrong with it
it’s kind of dark on the inside and it doesn’t have a retractable roof and it’s increasingly easy for teams to throw temper tantrums about their stadiums.
When the Rams were good it was an awesome place to watch a football game.
No city's taxpayers should pay $500MM for a private franchise's stadium.
What’s more, I wouldn’t be surprised if a tourist tax factored into this funding, which means Cardinals fans would be paying for the new Rams stadium. I find this deplorable.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I think they will be gone by 2014
When I think the current contract is up. I just don’t see the Rams or Saint Louis ponying up for a new stadium.
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
What they ought to do is take a can-opener to that sucker...
Hell, even I’d be inclined to go to a game there if you could get an actual cold-weather, open-air, stadium football experience in it. And it would still be significantly warmer since it’d be closed in on all sides but the top.
Oversimplifying?
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
st louis will get it done
they got it done for the cardinals, they’ll get it done for the rams.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't know about that...
With Busch III, Kiel Auditorium, this new Northside Development Project (if it goes through), Ballpark Village…St. Louisans may very well reach their tipping points soon in how much their willing to give up to help private developers and companies build new stuff.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
the football fans in the upper levels will get it done
just like baseball fans in the upper levels got it done for the cardinals and the blues fans in the upper levels got it done for the blues.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
We need more casinos
the Vegas of the midwest, we shall be!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
ugh...don't get me started.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
Loose slu...slots, you say?
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
Try
the Atlantic City of the north.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Sep 28, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
They didn't do too much for the Cards, did they?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Didn't the county use its bonding power?
And, I believe, multiple tax breaks?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
only thing i can find from wikipedia
“The stadium was financed through private bonds, bank loans, a long-term loan from St. Louis County, and money from the team owners”
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
45 million dollar long-term bond from st. louis county
meaning the county probably got a tax break in order to get that money.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Just found a nifty new blog,
entitled Field of Schemes, and here is a snippet of a post on the funding for Busch III, which the author says is a “much better deal” than other cities have gotten. You should definitely read the entire post, as it also provides a breakdown of the Cardinals, LLC’s ongoing financial obligations:
The final tally, then, has the costs of the new facility breaking down like so:
$42.7 million in state funds to pay for infrastructure and the demolition an replacement of an interstate ramp;
$3.4 million a year from the elimination of a city ticket tax, which should pay off $42.9 million worth of bonds;
$90 million in cash from the Cardinals;
$200.5 million in private stadium bonds, to be paid off by the team at $15.9 million a year;
a $45 million county loan, to be repaid by the team with interest – though the Cards can instead choose to simply hand over the stadium after 30 years, which they almost certainly will.
So while involving substantial public funds – somewhere between one-quarter and one-third the total construction cost, depending on how you count that loan – the new St. Louis stadium will still involve the second-most private money of any baseball park of the last 30 years, after the San Francisco Giants’ Pacific Bell Park, which was 90% privately funded.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
that's cool
but what exactly does “hand over the stadium” mean? the county will just own it and do with it whatever it pleases?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes.
But not “whatever it pleases.” They will likely demolish it and fork over some more money for Busch IV InBev Stadium and the Belgian Village.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
but what happens if the cardinals still want to play in it in 30 years?
will it just be county owned and run?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
That's just it; they won't.
In 30 years, the Cardinals will successfully lobby for a new baseball stadium and get the state, county, and city to help pay for it. (That is, unless the socialist revolution becomes complete and the federal government seizes all private property, instituting a salary cap in MLB to make it more socialist and fair. They the federal government will own Busch III and nullify any contract clause between the Cardinals and the county.)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
wow, that's rather lame
so knowing that, construction will begin on busch stadium IV sometimes around 2033?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be my guess.
The city or county will “donate the land” for Busch IV.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
since when is the life expectancy of a brand new stadium 30 years?
just seems like it would last longer than that.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
How long did Busch II last?
It had a renovation after 30 years and then they tore it down for Busch III after about 40, right?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
yes
i believe 1966 was the first year they played in busch II. but wasn’t that stadium supposedly built like crap and one of the last “cookie cutter” stadiums and they just wanted to get rid of it?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Mindset
Imagine telling someone in 1966 that the new Busch Stadium II would be the “last of the cookie cutters,” that those stadiums were ugly, that astroturf was a horrible idea, and that we just wanted to get rid of it. That person’s reaction would likely be similar to ours at the notion of tearing down Busch III. But, the same talking points used for Busch II can be used for Busch III in 30 years:
“It was built like crap. It is the last of the cookie cutter retro stadiums. We just want to get rid of it.”
This is a sore spot for me. I loved Busch II, especially after the post-football renovations. I did not, and, to this day, do not, see why we needed a new stadium, in particular, a new stadium so close to the interstate.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
fair enough
we’re on the same page here.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
The physical building absolutely lasts longer than that.
However, and this is the part that boggles quite a few minds, is this: in looking at a building built for a purpose such as this, one needs to adopt the mindset more of an automobile, only on a grander scale.
You buy an automobile, pay on it for a while, and then, once it’s paid for, it’s essentially making you money, because the money you would be paying for an auto payment is now extra in your pocket. (Of course, it only makes you money if you take said amount and put it aside, a fact sorely lost on most.) All the while you’re driving the car, though, you’re also incurring maintenance costs. Oil changes, tuneup, new clutch, etc.
Now, here’s the tricky part. At some point in the life of that automobile, there is going to be a repair cost incurred that exceeds the value of the automobile. Simple devaluation ensures this will eventually happen. Ten year old car, the transmission blows. You take it to your mechanic, and he says to you, “Well, it’ll cost two grand to fix, but the car’s probably only worth eight hundred bucks.”
At that point, you would literally be paying more than the car is worth to fix it. Now, there’s nothing wrong with doing so; maybe the car has sentimental value as one of your children was conceived (or delivered), in it, or it originally belonged to a family member, or you just really like it. So you put the money into it for reasons other than strictly financial ones.
A stadium works much the same way, though the repair costs almost never actually exceed the value, due to the fact it’s a piece of real estate and all. The rules are slightly different. At some point, though, the costs of maintaining and upgrading a stadium will outstrip the financial value the building itself has. At that point, the organisation can continue to repair it for some reason (see: Wrigley Field), or replace it with a new stadium which, while requiring a large initial investment, repeats the same cycle of profitability and eventual devaluation as the automobile.
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
makes sense
but that’s kind of my point. is it really too much to repair and maintain after just 30 years? seems like it would need some upgrades and such after that amount of time, but it still seems like it would be worthwhile to do so after just 30 years.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
After about 30 years,
Busch II was renovated and updated, made into a beautiful baseball-only stadium. Then, the Cardinals began to trash it and eventually got a brand new stadium out of the deal. My point is, how long after the stadium becomes government property will the Cardinals decide a new stadium is necessary?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
exactly
and as bgh argues, it will likely be right away. which i just think is silly.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
less about repair/maint.
and more about things like luxury boxes, amenities, etc. That’s the main reason they build new stadiums. Also the idea that a shiny new building will attract more customers.
youneverknow
i hope not, the lambs are a fucking joke & i hope they go away asap
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I was listening to part of the game on the radio in my car the other day
And one of the commentators ( I honestly have no idea who either of them were) made this downright silly remark about watching the play again on that gee-golly absolutely awesome GIANT HD SUPER JUMBO SCREEN. I assume they upgraded it? Their need to pimp out the screen was kind of pathetic.
That said, the only professional football game I have ever been to was a 90’s Rams game in the Dome (it may have still been the TWA Dome back then) and I found nothing wrong with it. The game was the crappy part. The best moment was a very nice punt by the Rams’ punter. Exciting!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
yes they updated it from that sorry ass old one
but god, watching the rams from 1999-2001 still remains as my favorite childhood memory. there was not a louder, better place to play football during that time.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I've been to St. Louis, Atlanta & Minnesota
Minnesota was by far the loudest place I’ve ever been
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
minnesota? really?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
The Metrodome gets extremely loud for Iowa vs. Minnesota (back before the Gophers got a new outdoor stadium),
so I bet it gets incredibly loud for the Vikings, when the entire crowd is unified in their rooting interest.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i think it's bigger than the EJD
but i would still say the ed was louder in it’s heyday as the twa dome.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
well the geogia dome has got both of 'em by 10K
so that’s understandable.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
when did you go to st. louis?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
fair enough
though i would argue it was louder in 2000-2001 (including the 1999 playoff games).
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
There wasn't a cloud in the sky and it was an insanely comfortable 77 degrees yesterday
and you had to go inside to watch a football game in person.
That’s what is wrong with it.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
If it were 40 degrees and rainy, it would still be wrong.
I firmly believe that football should be played outside and on natural grass.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
indeed.
signed,
Packers fan
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
If it were 40 degrees and rainy, it would be the best weather we've ever seen.
signed,
Packers fan
by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
It looked really nice for that game against the Bengals last Sunday.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Early-season doesn't count.
It’s like going to an HS football game when it’s still light outside. Early season is dismissed except for injury and record.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
You don't like the "Smurf Turf" of Boise St?
That field cracks me up everytime I see it.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I half considered applying there just for the field.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
It does have a strange pull to it.
Kinda like that doughnut that you really don’t need.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
"Mmmmm, forbidden fish food."

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
Is it just me or does that look like those Guild pilots
from the original Dune movie?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Ballchinian, you say?!

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
I am literally shaking from laughing at that.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta love Men in Black
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
I love the Smurf Turf
Real grass is always best, mind you, but if you’re going to have turf, why NOT have it be blue?
Personally
I think Clemosn should have an orange field with purple yard lines.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
You couldn't follow the game on TV, I wouldn't think.
The Clemson players would blend in.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
You lost me there.
I like their orange uniforms, and I’m from a high school where we wore purple at home, and the UNI Panthers have purple as their primary school color (despite the lamentable creep of black into the football team’s color scheme).
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I like the orange ones too.
They could wear orange at away games. Or they could wear white.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
So? They
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
So? They'd be wicked tough to beat.
Camouflage and all. How do you tackle what you can’t see?
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know.
Teams can tackle the green-glad Jets. My guess is that they’d just be hard to see on the tele.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
They would be hard to beat.
Our players would be used to the blinding field and stands full of orange, other teams however…
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Nothing really
Many people don’t like the fact that it’s a straight-up dome and that the crowd is kind of tame… To which I retort that when the team was good that place absolutely shook. I don’t think we’re talking about Metrodome/Arrowhead loud, but you really couldn’t hear yourself think after a 65-yard Warner-to-Bruce TD.
It’s not perfect, but it’s a fine facility. The Rams ownership just wants an excuse to bolt.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
there were the claims of piped-in noise too...
sneaky, sneaky Rams.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
Sounds like something the Twins would do, to me.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
They wouldn't have been the first
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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 28, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
football is the cold weather sport
baseball is the warm weather sport. that’s all I need really. never seen a live football game, other than the Green Machine (my high school team). I dislike college football, and haven’t been able to get into basketball since Jordan retired. hockey is great live but lame on tv… I am pretty sure that football is better on tv than live though.
dang I wish the playoffs would hurry up and start! I’m not sure how fun it will be to follow the team with lineups like yesterday’s one
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions
i haven't seen one nba games since june of 98 either
i love college football though, but other than dallas i hate the nfl with a passion.
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
Like Chitown I've always preferred football on TV to live.
Football, despite being berated as some sort of macho caveman exercise, is a pretty complicated sport. I actually played football at school in 7th and 8th grade, and managed football all through high school (there was a sports requirement and that was what I did in the fall trimester. Great way to get on the good side of the coaches) and to this day I can’t tell you what a Red Mad Double Dog Defensive Formation actually is. Or what have you. I really like having the benefit of TV angles and the occasionally insightful commentary by the TV guys to help break things down better.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Worst officials signal?
Tripping…

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
I'm so glad referees have microphones.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i get to go ref football this afternoon
i’m going to call more tripping just because of this. thanks.
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
particularly nice
when combined with the ridiculous throwback uniforms they’ve been wearing. I really don’t understand the point of those, by the way. Is there a market for throwback ref unis that I’m not aware of.
by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Really makes me want to eat at TGI Fridays...
…Woody’s a tool.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
I would always rather watch an NFL game on TV as opposed to in person...
I don’t care who is playing. But if you actually like football, went to a college game, and came away wishing you watched on TV…well that’s probably a result of where you were. There is nothing comparable to an electric college football atmosphere in my opinion.
V, b.
Unless I'm 50 yard line in awesome seats
I wouldn’t take free tickets to an NFL game. The unpossible number of commercials make it unbearable to sit through.
Not afraid to nitpick
Chicken McNuggets are infact delicous
and the local f’ng gdm handegg team is not worth mentioning
that is all
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
the rams are awesome.
duh.
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
We're on the road to 13-3!
Have no fear everybody, it’s all downhill from here.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
ugh
as probably the biggest rams fan on this board, i have to say it’s mighty depressing to watch this team the past three years.
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Honest question
I don’t ask this to rub it in, I’m honestly curious because I want to know how bad it really is right now (so I know what to expect for the next few years). Are they the worst team in the NFL? One of the worst? Or just very bad but not absolutely bottom tier bad?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
With Detroit beating Washington yesterday
I think we our officially the worst team
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
hard to say based on just 3 games
but last year the Rams and Detroit were on a different plane of suckitude compared to the rest of the league by football outsider’s DVOA. Until there’s reason to think otherwise, I’d have to agree that we’re now in a class by ourselves.
by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
they are definitely in the bottom five
i wouldn’t say they are the worst team (cleveland step on up!), but they are without doubt in the bottom tier right now.
as for improvement, i firmly believe this team bottomed out last year. the new regime took over this year, and many intelligent fans already notice a difference in the way the team plays. the defense has improved, and it’s only a matter of time before spagnuolo and his crew get his guys installed and the rams start winning.
i would expect 3-4 wins next year, 5-8 next year, and then maybe some sort of run in 2011. they desperately need a franchise QB, and i believe they will draft one with their inevitable high pick in the upcoming draft.
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Grammar question
Which one is grammatical correct
The problem lays within the box
The problem lies within the box
I don't know
that exact question knocked me out of last year’s National Grammar Rodeo in Calgary
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought it was strange to having our grammar rodeo in Canada...
Andy Williams??!! We’re stopping!!!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i would say the second one
that’s what sounds correct at least.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
lays is not a word... "Lays" is an incorrect version of "lay"
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
But they do make damn good chips.
/Douh!! Or however that’s spelled.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Mmmmmm
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
Really? Huh.
I’ve just always thought of it as a plural of, well, you know.
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh heh...
…sexin’.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
Yup
“Lay” is a form of “to lie” as in to lie down. It is past tense: She lay down and fell asleep after having an exhausting day. It might also be second person or a command or something? There’s that Dylan song “Lay Lady Lay” after all… I can’t remember if that’s correct grammar though.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
lies within would be proper
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
That is what I first thought
Also, In case anyone is wondering the reason I asked. I am making a t-shirt for my dad’s birthday. He think he comes up with all these awesome t-shirt ideas. So I thought I would make him a couple t-shirts for his birthday.

by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Cool Read
I never knew that Musial was once a GM
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Another cool link,
off of that story is to this Stan “The Man” Musial LIFE magazine photograph slideshow:
http://www.life.com/image/first/in-gallery/31082/stan-musial-the-man
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
And this story about Red is classic:
St. Louis had dropped a tough game to the Braves in 13 innings at Busch Stadium on that significant date, July 22. Schoendienst was frustrated by the defeat and carried his frustration with him to his new home in suburban St. Louis. When Red walked into the house his wife, Mary Eileen, sensed trouble. Red walked out back and decided to mow the lawn, twice pulled the rip cord on the power mower and broke it. He came back inside and lifted the cover off the pot on the kitchen range and challenged her on her method of boiling potatoes to go with the steak that he was about to cook. He went back to the barbecue and put the steaks on, and soon puffs of black smoke circled the neighborhood. A policeman rang the front doorbell and asked if the Schoendiensts were all right and if they were planning just a small fire. “Go out back,” Mary Eileen said, “and ask the manager.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
OT: Yadi is 2 GIDP's away from tying the Franchise record.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
Yearly Progression...
04 – 4
05 – 10
06 – 15
07 – 18
08 – 21
09 – 27 (and counting?)
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
It's becasue he doesn't hustle.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Get off our forums, Al!
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
Only if you GET OFF MY LAWN, RASMUS!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I have to check my $99.99 spreadsheet
but I think he’s the most in debt in adjusted $99.99.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
No.
Because the Royals or Padres have heard your arguments, agree with them, have relatively low-key managers, and are apparently ready to trade for Milton.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
LB started a sign Milton movement here at VEB a few offseasons past.
And I agreed with his logic, which, as per usual, proved correct. However, I just don’t see a Bradley/TLR marriage ended better than the TLR/Steve Kline or TLR/Rolen relationships. It would end quickly and with fireworks. Otherwise, I’d be open to the idea. I don’t blame either the Pads or Royals for being intrigued.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
The TLR Rolen relationship sure didn't have much of an impact
We were an awesome team with Rolen and we won the world series in 06. We even got decent value on a trade for Rolen (nobody could have predicted Glaus would be out all season).
by vivaelpujols on Sep 28, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not saying that we wouldn't have a good club.
I’m saying that the likelihood we would find ourselves in the position we were in with Rolen after ‘07, and that the Cubs find themselves in with Bradley now, is high if TLR is our manager. The gamble might be worth it, depending on what we’re giving up, but I doubt it.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I agree
Bradley is one of my favorite players statistically, but he’s a dick and probably has a slight negative effect on the rest of his teammates. If he’s a 2.5 WAR player – .5 “chemistry wins” than he’s only league average. And he will be expensive, unless the Cubs eat a crapload of his salary, and he doesn’t upgrade us in a position of need.
I’d rather stock up F.A.T’s and sign Rich Harden.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 28, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
really Harden?
He seems overvalued to me
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Naw, he'll be undervalued this offseason I think
His ERA and W/L record was squarely average this year; but he pitched a lot better. He’s pretty consistent too, xFIP’s of 3.70 each of the past 3 years. If you get 150 innings of a 3.70 xFIP pitcher, that’s about 3 WAR. He’ll likely get a short term deal for half of that due to his injury history and “average” performance this year.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 28, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i strongly agree with this tack.
Our financial situation and having several reasonable-but-not-stars rotational prospects make getting a fragile starter on a one-year discount appealing – sheets, harden, webb, smoltz, pavano. Obviously not all those guys have same ceiling, but I’d be interested in getting one of the above.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Sep 28, 2009 5:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Put me down for one of those as the scrap off the heap for 2010.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Harden's a type A, presumably
do we really want to give the small bears our first rounder (when they’re likely to be looking to rebuild internally)? If we’re going down the higher end of the FA pitcher route, I’d probably rather look at Sheets or Bedard or somebody.
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Expect there is a good chance that Sheets or Bedard are done
Or at least won’t be the pitchers that they were before. A first rounder isn’t really a big deal, it’s usually worth only 3-4 million in surplus value with a HUGE bust rate. Plus, we should be getting a couple back with Hollday/DeRosa/Pineiro/Glaus.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 29, 2009 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions
no moar ex-Athletic pitchers!
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 28, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember that post
This is all very strange. Why would the Royals be interested in Milton Bradley? Don’t they know that one of this chief skills is that he always gets on base?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
The author must have confused bradley for jeff francoeur.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
This thread is too happy-
some one start an argument.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
there's some UNC bashing going on up there somewhere
by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
You mofo!
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
It is not!!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Finally!
someone got it.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
That is probably my all-time favourite Python sketch
absolute genius.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:37 AM EDT up reply actions
The Proclaimers' 'Over and Done With' is far superior to their better known '1000 Miles.' I dare anyone to disagree.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
Ha! You're totally wrong!
‘Over and Done With’ is totally a better song than ‘1000 Miles.’ I mean, I could understand disagreeing, that’s cool. Wait, what?…
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
all of your music is boring
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Has ClemsonGirl possessed Cards Fan in Chitown??
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Hey! I use the subject line now to please Spants' dying computer.
And besides I ahve no idea what kind of music hazel listens to.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
unless hazel is of the Sister variety.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGU_v_GAdvg
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
That is far from boring.
I’ve got scottish in my family!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
BOOM
roast it!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
...Roasted...
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
this is where she was supposed to come back with
“Sure, but not that little”
f’in ClemsonGirl
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
someone had to say it
might as well have been someone as harmless as myself
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
so that's what a scottish wedding is like!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I was born in Scotland.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I have a Scottish last name
But my actual Scottishness has sort of dwindled through the ancestral line. And the name came from Normandy originally anyway. So I don’t know how cool it really is.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Bobo is a Scottish name?
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 29, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Mandolorian
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 29, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I have learned in my lifetime
the easiest way to start an argument is to make fun of someone’s music
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
politics doesn't work if you are in a room full of your own side
music however, is a surefire way to rile someone up
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHA LOL!
SoonerTU FAN likes Tony! hahahaha
by vivaelpujols on Sep 28, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
mancrush!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Schaeffer looks interesting
but I like Ron Paul too,
Read them simultaneously!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Neither.
But I would never read anything by either of those authors.
Sponsored by Slick-Rick 'Stache Cream
I would go out and buy
“The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt” by Edmund Morris. It is, right now, my favorite political biography and I highly recommend it. “The Rise…” is part one of a trilogy Morris has undertaken on Teddy Roosevelt, and the final installment is due out soon, I’ve heard.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Loks pretty good
I like Teddy. I will check it out after I am done with these 2
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm watching Schaeffer youtube vids now
and I think I’m going to buy his book, or at least check it out.
that’s it for me on the politics
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
best book
I have read in the last 10 years it made me tired thinking about doing half of the things he did
TR is a truly singular American personality.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Kind of like
Michael Collins as one of those guys you wish had held power for a little while longer. Tim Pat Coogan’s bio of Collins is an amazing read as well.
The.best.political.biography.ever...
Is Robert Caro’s Lyndon Johnson, still in progress after three volumes. Rumor has it Caro will not live to finish Vol IV, which makes me very sad.
Those are incredibly interesting.
And LBJ is another singular American personality. Perhaps I just like TR better.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Anything about
ending the Fed piques my curiosity. Read that one.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Sep 28, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm willing to bet most people that read this clicked on it
yet no one wants to reply to it…
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
speaking of ank's curve
i have a hard time remembering things more than a week in the past. so, ank v. waino. whose is nastier. better yet, anyone have gif/video of ank’s curve?
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Ank's curve was a thing of beauty.
I don’t really wanna say it was better that A.D.A.M.‘s, but throwing that to a lefty was every bit as nasty as Johnson’s slider was, IMO.
"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR Passan
I'll say it
Ank’s curve was probably the single greatest pitch I have ever witnessed. This is what makes me so sad that he could not control the FB. Ank was without a doubt a future CY winner.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
This gives me a sad.
I’m almost hoping that he struggles a little bit," Jocketty says. "For one thing, I’d rather see him learn from adversity in Triple A than in the big leagues.
I wonder how Ank would have turned out if it would have happened THAT way.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Duncan would have fixed him.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
That makes me sad too.
It is alluded to in this (probably quite familiar) article that one of his problems was that he never had to face adversity in the minors and just sailed through, blowing everyone away.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
That and some dependency issues that he didn't personally address
until his dad got locked up.
But apparently the media wasn’t allowed to cover that part of the story.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
i dunno
i remember that being the main explanation for his struggles
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Oh, me too
just not in the mainstream media.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
yeah, he had a horrible home life & he's still fighting those demons
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
yeah, i don't remember specifics
shit was ages ago
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
I've heard he had some dependency issues as well
but I have nothing to back it up. All I have is hearsay.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
he had plenty
of the same issue in AAA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3GnaUBKXtI
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
nvm, this was 2001
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
I thought it was fitting Wainer
became the first starter to get double digit k’s in back-to-back starts since Ankiel this weekend.
Ranking Cardinal curveballs this decade:
1. Wainwright
2. Ankiel
3. Kile
4. Morris
5. Carpenter
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Wainwright
is always a good #1 for this category, but I don’t remember anyone who possessed a curve as badass as Ank’s. Oh, what could have been.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Sep 28, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I know...I should have just said it.
When he did control the fastball, hitters didn’t have a chance. That curve had about 6 feet of break, and when he was able to spot that 95 or 96 mph heater, no one had a chance…lefties or righties.
"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR Passan
I wanna know why it is impossible to find video of Ank in his pitching days
f’in MLB, f’in Bud
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Here is
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I am pissed that was the only video of Ank I could find
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
If you google
“Voices real and imagined”
You will find an interesting short film, including footage of Ank pitching and taking questions at press conferences, that keeps getting yanked by MLB. It was easy to find until after September 6, 2007, then it started disappearing.
Please don’t link to it directly or I’m sure it will disappear again.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
ooops--sorry. I should have said: Google
"Voices real and imagined" ankiel
and it will be the first link that turns up. On present video com, username smelly4food.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
I just watched it so I know it's still there.
It looks like somebody’s film school project.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
It looks like VEB already had this conversation in early July 2008:
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
Just watched it...
…very interesting.
Now…do I get an Ankiel 66 personalized jersey? Seeing as he’ll likely be gone next year??
lol
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It makes me really sad to watch it
…especially that horrible child yelling at him from the stands. If I ever did that at a sporting event my dad would have given me a lecture about sportsmanship. In fact, he did just that when I booed Garry Templeton.
You have three jersey number choices, depending on what era of Ankiel you want. 66 is probably a good choice.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
That kid was terrible.
I jostle with the opposing outfielders in FW, but they know I’m playin’ around, nothing serious. Actually had a conversation in the middle of an inning with Brian Van Kirk from Lansing (A-TOR). Good clean fun. He tossed up a ball after he made a putout. lol
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
But that's where the difference lies...opposition vs home
I’d NEVER boo a home-player. I know we knock on our player alllll the time (e.g. Duncan, Ankiel, Thurston, et al) but never in my dreams could I rattle their cages at a game. Fully disrespectful.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Right--even when I was furious with Welley or Franky this year
I certainly wouldn’t have booed them at a game. Hearing the home fans boo our own players (even if they really suck and are pissing me off) makes me really sad.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
Borderline disgusted.
… I’ll rag on a player behind the veil of an IP address…but that’s as far as it’ll go.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Completely agree.
I used to never hear St. Louisans boo their players (maybe I just never noticed) but I hear it all the time now and it’s like nails on a chalkboard everytime. Even when Izzy was awful and I hated when they brought him out I could never boo him. He’s playing for my team and so in a way it’slike he’s playing for me. How can I boo him for that?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's gotten worse over the past few years.
I never noticed it before the year Izzy was playing through his hip injury that required surgery (was that 2006?)
I also NEVER saw anyone throw a home run ball back on to the field at Busch Stadium until last year. I actually yelled at those people (but they were too far away to hear me)
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
I hate when people throw HR balls back.
It’s so stupid. I actually don’t mind too much when Cubs fans do it (and I know a lot of people here mind it a lot but my Dad grew up a Cubs fan so I don’t hate the Cubs as much as a lot of people), tradition and all, but any other time it is ridiculous.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't hate the Cubs either.
My feelings toward the Cubs range from mild interest to indifference to pity, and I don’t mean that in an asshole way. When they do well in a year when the Cards are sucking, I think well, good for them. We go to the postseason all the time, and will continue to do so. They hardly ever get to, except for the past few years.
When I was a kid I remember the rivalry being much more friendly.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
I've always thought it was fairly freindly on the Cardinals side but less so on the Cubs side.
I just hear horror stories of Cards fans at Wrigley and very few of Cubs fans at Busch.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I went to a game at Wrigley in August 2008
and wore an Ankiel jersey t-shirt and got harrassed pretty badly by fans. We were in the bleachers, though. After the game (Cards lost, Carp pulled mid-game due to injury), we got harassed less. The door guys outside the bars on the way to the red line had some pretty clever jokes about InBev and were aware that Carpenter had gotten hurt. They knew how to jab, but weren’t unkind.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
I heard one of the most awful things
ever said to a child while at Busch Stadium. A Cards fan said it to a Cubs fan and their kids.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
Elaborate?
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 29, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
...
…
…which was…?
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
hee hee.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
That's not very nice.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
Tossing HR balls back is the #1 lamest thing in baseball fandom
fking Cubs fans.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember in the 90's maybe 95
There were some scumbag bastards that even booed Ozzie before he retired. I mean,granted he wasn’t nearly as good by then, but you don’t do that to somebody that meant so much for so long.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 29, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel like making lists of active players (cheating on Ankiel)
Fastballs:
1. Pedro (96 with life with Maddux command)
2. Billy Wagner back in the day (14.6! K/9 from 97-99)
3. Randy
4. Webb (221 innings per year, 64% groundballs with Ks)
5. Papelbon (Might be a douche but career K/BB of 4.5 is nuts)
Curves:
1. Ankiel
2. Wainwright
3. Zito
4. Lincecum
5. Oswalt
Changeups:
1. Pedro’s Bugs Bunny
2. Hoffman
3. Gagne
4. Santana
5. Lincecum
Sliders:
1. Randy, nuff said
2. Lidge in 04 (157 Ks as a reliever! 87-90 mph slider)
3. Kerry Wood during that 20k game
4. Prime Smoltz (best slider command ever, just pumped that thing for strikes 0-0 0-1 and buried it with 2 strikes)
5. Joe Nathan
Not afraid to nitpick
this is kinda cool
fan (long pause)… post material?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
OT: Planning on making a new Cards wallpaper...
…any ideas on what anyone wants?
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
Nothing specific; more layout.
I like them simple. I don’t like the wallpapers that combine multiple images. But that’s just me. I thought some of the photos that our members have posted have been cool. Maybe they would let you incorporate some of those?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I agree, I've never been a clutter-guy...
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
...

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
or...

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Not if it's tiled
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
What resolution do you run?
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
new years?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
United Nations?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Since nobody answered, here it is in 1440x900

Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
nice work!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Thank you
I wanted to keep it simple with the B/W and throw a little red accent in there
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
Made a fanshot for it...if this thread gets too molasses'y.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
well done indeed
I actually run 1440 × 900 so Super thanks from Me!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I run 1440x900 also...lol
I worked it in 1920×1200
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 29, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
partial to the ones with lots of little pics then you step back and it's Lincoln's face
though they’re tough to get right and Lincoln’s face would be more like WW winding up or something
by EinFesteBusch on Sep 28, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if there's a website that does that automatically...
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Ohhh, photo mosaics?
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
lots of options online...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=photo+mosaic+automatic+online
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
If I were to do it, I wouldn't do the automated online version.
I’d use Andrea Mosaic and have all the source photos be Cardinals players, Busch Stadium, etc.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
Here was mine from 07

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 28, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn, Eck
What is that a bottle of? It looks familiar, but I can’t put a finger on it
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe its Cuervo
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 28, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
winner.
awful, awful stuff.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
It's probably most delicious right after winning the World Series
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Bernie Williams: "Are you the guy that put us in that Ramada in Milwaukee?"
Costanza: “You wanna talk about hotels? Or you wanna win some ballgames?”
Jeter: “Hey, we won the World Series.”
Costanza: “Pssh. In six games.”
Makes me LOL every time.
V, b.
by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 6:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
OT: Always have a spotter!
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
Conversely: Don't Lift Weights!
Those things are heavy.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Hell yeah... people ask me how I maintain my godly physique...
…don’t go to the weight room and eat what I want.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
never lift over 16 ounces at a time
okay, sometimes you can lift 40 oz, but that should be your limit
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
What about 59oz?
For those nights when a handle of liquor will do a body good?
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
you do what you want
kids these days
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
I dunno if I can do that anymore...
…took a month off of drinking. Freedom comes back this weekend.
Luckily, the liver’s still healthy…or so I hope.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
you should never take that much time off from drinking
there’s a chance the body will think it doesn’t need the alcohol
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Someone bet me 50 that I couldn't do it...
…why pass up on free money?
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
you make a good point
but make sure to spend that 50 on beer, okay?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Duh...?
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
If you were an alcoholic
You’d have lost $50
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i really do hate the nfl
and i hate going to watch football games. i hate the fans, i hate the seats bleachers. i hate the loud ass announcers you can hear from 10miles away. i hate you can’t follow the game like you can on TV. college football games are at least fun to go to, i’ve never been to an nfl game & i probably won’t unless i end up living in Big D
oh & i really, really, really, REALLY hate the lambs. they never should have left LA & it would be much better if they get the hell out of town & stop wasting everyone’s time, money & energy that should be focused on the Cards.
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lots of discussion
around watching football games live. I’ve found watching them (pro games at least) a remarkably tedious experience. i’m convinced the couch is the best seat in the house, so to speak. i can’t believe people pay money to watch men of superhuman stature stand around on the field most of the time in between brief spurts of action.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Sep 28, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm disowning you as my father.
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i disowned you last week when you started rooting for the flubs boy
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oh, so you didn't want saturday night to happen?
the right way? on the field?
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
okay, sorry
i should have said “i want the giants to do everything possible to lose the game!!!!”
my bad.
/has huge test tomorrow that has not been studied for at all, yet wasting time on veb
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
That's it
I’m calling Dr. Phil
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Sep 28, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd rather go on dateline
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
ugh, i also hate that's it's just after 7pm & it's already dark out
damnit all to hell, what happened to summer?
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still sunny here
you damn eastern time zoners
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
That's the advantage to being less than 75 miles into the eastern time zone...
It gets dark as late as possible. Of course the opposite is true in the mornings, but I’m never awake before 10, so why should I care?
V, b.
by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
how was that possible?
ohio didn’t see the sun all day, the temps were fine, but no sun. oh well, i’m in the basement anyway, there’s never any sun down here
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
Rumor is it's always sunny in Philadelphia
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
HFS...
MLB Network just ran the possible outcomes of the Twins/Tigers series across the bottom of the screen.
Not what each outcome would mean, but just Tigers sweep, Twins sweep, Tigers 3 of 4, Twins 3 of 4, split.
Are we that dumb?
V, b.
they're finally speaking to the moran audience
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
the Twins fans go bananas?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
B-A-N-A-N-A-S
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
How was it helpful?
But anyway, the Twins are probably done with anything less than 3 of 4. With a split, they’ll still be 2 games back with 3 to play. They’d be tied with 3 of 4.
V, b.
They want you to text in a vote.
That is why they are running the possible outcomes.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
I put this in a fan shot but...
looks like Barmes didn’t catch that ball after all.
This is from the Denver Post.

Motherf*ckers...
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
unfuckinbelieveable
i knew he didn’t catch that.
BRING ON INSTANT REPLAY AND BRING ON THE ROBOT UMPS
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on. the. take.
they just threw games in different directions to throw off the scent.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Karma is a bitch, Denver...
We’re going to piss all over your Rocktober now.
V, b.
by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right after we finish up with Zep-tember here at 103.5, WVEB
All the hits, all time!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don't know, but I've been told
A big-legged woman ain’t got no soul
killer guitar solo
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
bastards!
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
So let me get this straight (yes, my 3rd comment on the picture)...
Along with Skip being safe at first, THERE IS STILL NO ONE OUT IN THE TOP OF THE NINTH.
Seriously, fuck those umpires in a big way.
V, b.
Albert, Skip, and Lugo all score on the bloop.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
IT'S AN ILLUSION!!!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
unbelievable
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 28, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
If anyone could be more pissed than the Cards, it's the Braves
They’d be 1 GB right now if we had won yesterday
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I'd rather face the braves than the rocks.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:52 AM EDT up reply actions
The storyline must have been too douchy for your cable company to handle.
Although all non-Ted parts were fantastic, especially mustached Marshall.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
6ly, CBS is still f'ed up
it’s not working on Dish, DTV, Time Warner, or over the air antenna.
it’s weird. there’s no voice audio, but the laugh tracks & music are fine. the commercials are fine too. f’in ohio
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Strange.
cbs posts HIMYM episodes online pretty quickly after they air. It’ll be up in a few hours.
Which reminds me. I think I might need to buy a tv for the playoffs. Or find a good bar. Cause mlb.tv doesn’t show those games live, does it?
by peach concrete on Sep 28, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
where do you live?
(oh, god, this is turning into 1996 AOL CARDS FANZ FORUMZ)
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
tennessee or denver
it’s totally not creepy that i guessed that is it?
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Not at all creepy, cause I think we've 'talked' about it a few times.
I’ll probably find a bar. I suppose it’s an excuse to eat burgers and fries.
by peach concrete on Sep 28, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
i need a pep talk!!!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
You got it. Which version do you want? Or do you want all 3 versions?
by peach concrete on Sep 28, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
huge test tomorrow that i just started studying for--exhausted from the rest of the day's activities
sounds like i need the “just need to get started and on a roll” version.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Get your shit together and do it.
/peptalk
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
go rub on out and get on with with it.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
thanks, non-teacher almost 30 somethings!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Key word "almost"
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 29, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
at this point you won't retain much information anyway
you’ll be better served to get some rest and be fresh tomorrow
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 28, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
at this point?
it’s 8:25…i freakin’ hope i can retain some sort of information.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I firmly believe
that I passed more tests by cramming than trying to remember information over an extended period of time. I can store anything for 24 hours.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
a gallon of milk?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
in 24 hours -- sure
in 1 hour — no (despite repeated attempts)
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
yeah
but, you are a robot. It’s different for us humans
/also have test (wednesday) for which I am procrastinating
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I'm studying now for my test Thursday!
I’m so proud of myself. This never happens.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
as in you are studying
for your test that is on thursday right now? Or you are planning to start studying on thursday.
This is the downside of getting all of my school information on my computer. Instead of studying powerpoint slides (i’ve made it through about 3 in 3 hours) I play on the internet.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Test on Thursday
I’m studying now. Blackboard’s being stupid so I can’t get the powerpoints. I’m studying the old-fashioned way, with the book. :P
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
blackboard ha
we just switched to angel. Which has subsequently been bought out by blackboard.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
You should see the number f Facebbok statuses yelling at Blackboard in the Clemson world right now.
One says F U BLACKBOARD!
Another: blackboard is on drugs.
Mine: Darn it Blackboard! I need those Powerpoints!
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
don't remember any big problems with BB
haven’t had any with angel either, so far. Hope they get everything lined out so that you can study the way you are supposed to. . . with a browser open and 3 tabs to distract you!
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
no matter how hard I try
I cannot z through my powerpoints. . .
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Blacboards back up.
Yay… now I have no excuses.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
i haven't had an excuse this whole time
but, you see how productive I am being.
I will share this little nugget of knowledge with you, just in case it may help with your test: 80% of patients who die from TBI (traumatic brain injury) have associated fractures with their injury. Furthermore, fractures leave the patient more susceptible to secondary problems such as blood loss, hematoma, and infection.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Here's my helpful piece of knowledge:
Child advocacy refers to focused initiatives to improve services for all children or it can target a specific group of children. Eary childhood teachers must be advocates for their students, they are required by law to report anything that may be harming their students.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
see now,
that’s not helpful to me at all. How does that even relate to traumatic brain injuries?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Well you tell me
How traumatic brain injuries relate to strategies to get parents involved in the classroom.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 29, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
see now thats silly
It is important to get family members involved in the treatment of TBI, but we will not be in a classroom. But, strategies there include the following:
“Look, your family member has a TBI, they are never going to be the same again, but in order for them to get as close to normal as possible, you are going to have to be involved in their recovery. they will recognize you sooner, respond to you easier, and be more compliant if you help. If not, they may never get any better.”
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
What?
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 29, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
sorry
humor fail, just go with it. I was trying to spin into some family education that would go along with your comment about getting parents involved in the classroom, but it didn’t really work.
Basically, if family members help with people recovering from traumatic brain injury, the person will improve more than if the family doesn’t get involved.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Yes.
And if they help in the classroom kids will learn better, so my subject matter does help yours.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 29, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
sweet
now if only we could spin away for mine to help you. Or can we just use that one for both of us?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
That works for both of us I think.
Plus I assume yours is much harder. Mine’s all memorization.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 29, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
mainly memorization
but it is a doctoral level course and there will be case examples on the test. So, i really must get to work. Good luck with your studying.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Sakai rules!
Blackboard drools.
We use both at MU, but Sakai is pretty awesome and I prefer it. Blackboard just feels clunky and outdated.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
Okay, here you go...
stlcardinalsfang, you’re clearly very committed to your studies, because when classes started you told us you would be spending less time on the game threads in order to focus on your work. So don’t give up now! Stop ignoring your work – it’s just going to make you feel worse when you look at the pile of homework later tonight and realize you didn’t put a dent in it. Pick something small, promise yourself you’ll work for an hour on it, and then check back in with the game after that. We’ll give you a cheer. Getting started is always the hardest part – chances are after an hour of working on it you’ll be motivated to keep going.
Plus, if you don’t get to work, Lugo is gonna getcha. When you least expect it.
by peach concrete on Sep 28, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, except there isn't a game on tonight...
So check back in tomorrow! And tell us how much you accomplished!
by peach concrete on Sep 28, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
deal!
though i’ll still be lurking tonight….thy computer is the source of musical distraction.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, so the next time I'll see you...
I’m gonna ask you how much you’ve gotten done. And you can do the same, cause I’ve got a stack of reading for tomorrow.
by peach concrete on Sep 28, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
deal.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I've had one test all semester...
One.
This week? Tests on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday.
Irritates the shit out of me how that always happens.
V, b.
My 2 weeks:
Math Quiz today, Midterm Thirsday, Math Test Thursday, Paper due Monday, Midterm Tuesday, Paper due Thursday, FALL BREAK FRIDAY!!!!! HOME!
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do you get a whole week?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
Just the weekend then Monday and Tuesday.
Also I realized I have 2 papers due next Thursday.
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fair enough
we get a thursday + friday and then the weekend obviously. but that’s still 2.5 weeks away :(
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I couldn't make it.
Last year I made it untilNovember though. I don’t know how.
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damn
so you didn’t go home for 3 months?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
you're insane.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
f'ing kids these days.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Seriously
I’d go insane coming home every other month when I was 18-23. Granted, eight month stretchs sucked, but three months sounds fantastic.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
that's almost what my friends did
they’d come home on turkey day, and two weeks for xmas & new years. and maybe spring break, but that’s it.
i have no idea why i never went to collage. i should have left & never looked back. f’in gdm
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you would have learned how to spell college!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
That's actually wrong.
I didn’t go home for fall Break I just waited for Thanksgiving because my parents didn’t want to fly me home twice in one month and I didn’t have a car.
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yeah
so i’m assuming you go home 4 times a year then.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Last year
I went home for Thanksgiving and Christmas, Superbowl weekend because I was homeseick, and Spring Break.
This year I’ll be going home fro Fall Break, Indianapolis for Thanksgiving, Home for Christmas, and I don’t know about Spring Break yet.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what i'm trying to reduce myself to
i went home 7-8 times last year, which was too many.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
GET TO WORK!
you don’t want to end up like your old man!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 28, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
It never gets old!
and I sincerely doubt it ever will
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 28, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I want to watch it again.
I’ll probably watch it all the time from now on.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
You want a pad?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Well I'm watching it and reading through the thread at the same time so here is a link
for all that are interested. http://www.wisevid.com/view_video.php?viewkey=c61st83phi8i7ao79797#
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Sep 29, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
just noticed
Pirates won again. 2 1/2 out of home field advantage
Houston leading Philly 2-1 top of the sixth 2nd and 3rd one out.
what is this "base ball"
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Is that what the armed forces
refer to when they mean football? GO GATERS! WOOO!
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Sep 28, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
575 comments? Effing weak, VEB.
Mother effing weak.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
He eloped to Iowa with Dave Duncan.
Both are now missing.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
then... Seattle?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Sorry...
the missus has been on me to finish drywalling. What is it with women and bare studs?
Ask me about my avatar!
you know, in some circles, mainly mine
the term drywalling is used to refer to what Chris Duncan does to tropheys. Just an FYI.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
We're resting starters
it’s the title of the gdm topic
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 28, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
who's in centerfield??
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I've decided that gdm = God damn
Anything else is wrong. Sorry, but you don’t have a say in the matter, because if it’s not the case I will be crushed.
It just makes to much sense for it not to be true.
“f’n gdm” just wouldn’t be the same
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 28, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
gdm right
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 28, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
nope
someone asked me what the 426 was last week & i told them & fritz hated it. oddly enough, i never remember anyone asking me what the gdm stood for
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whats the gdm stand for?
and the 426?
and, I’ll give a pre-emptive Shut-up Fritz™
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Tell me! Tell me!
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
it's really not that exciting, especially for women
426 stands for the legendary 426ci engine that came in the legendary Mopar muscle cars in the late 60’s & early 70’s.
gdm are the initials for an old high school nickname. one i’m never going to tell you all what they stand for.
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no, it's not vulgar or any curse words
you all will never guess it
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Gay Dumb Motherfucker
Ah shit, can’t get by without cursing
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 29, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Gastrointestinal Diabetes Man?
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 29, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
i guess the good news is that the phillies and dodgers arent playing all that well right now
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 28, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
So the Cardinals own the season series over the Dodgers...
The Dodgers own the season series over the Phillies, and the Phillies own the season series over the Cardinals.
What happens if they all finish with the same record?
V, b.
records within the division
which right now stands at:
philly: 43-26 (3 to go)
la: 44-23 (6 to go)
cardinals: 45-29 (6 to go)
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a weak tiebreaker...
Seems like a tiebreaker should be based on something, you know, common. We also play more division games, and I don’t know if I think that’s an advantage or a disadvantage.
V, b.
Look at Scenario 8.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe it starts with best combined record vs the 2 other tied teams.
…but I don’t know how that factors into uneven number of games, or if it goes by %
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the way I'm understanding it as well...
1) Phillies: 4-1 vs. STL, 3-4 vs. LA = 7-5 and .583
2) Cardinals: 5-2 vs. LA, 1-4 vs. PHI = 6-6 and .500
3) Dodgers: 2-5 vs. STL, 4-3 vs. PHI = 6-8 and .429
V, b.
so...if the cardinals can win that (and to catch up to the dodgers, they'd have to)
they’d get homefield advantage and play the rockies/braves. la/philly would then play each other in la.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
If still tied thru there...then best record in NL-NL games.
…and if still tied, Best 2nd half record in NL-NL
…and if still tied, best 2nd half plus one game record in NL-NL
…and so forth.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
See I think it should start here...
Going off of records within your own division is retarded, because you’re rewarding the team with the weakest division.
V, b.
Wild Card team
might determine matchups since Colorado can’t play LA. In which case Philly has the series with STL and would get Col. STL then would have home field against LAD. But I could be making the whole thing up.
I know that's the case in the NLDS...
But I’m trying to figure out who would have homefield in the NLCS.
V, b.
head to head series winner
Footnote on the mlb.com Postseason schedule.
The remaining team (but never the Wild Card) with the best overall regular-season record has home-field advantage and will play host to Games 1, 2, 6 and 7.
I believe homefield advantage is reset after the NLDS is completed, so the tiebreaker would be head to head for the NLCS
The way I see it...
Best winning percent against other 2 opponents.
LAD (vs PHI/STL) – 6-8 – .429
PHI (vs STL/LAD) – 7-5 – .583
STL (vs LAD/PHI) – 6-6 – .500
By my interpretation of the rules, Philly would have HFA in a 3-way tie.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I came to the same conclusion...
So the Phillies would host the Rockies while the Cardinals host the Dodgers.
Or the Cardinals would host the Braves while the Phillies host the Dodgers.
V, b.
If a 3-way tie, I think that's exactly what would happen...
Let’s just win out and hope we get HFA regardless.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that too.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Going, lind of, off of today's post
what would be a better investment of $500M for the city of Saint Louis:
1) A new football stadium, or
B) A lifetime contract to Albert Pujols, donated from the city, county, and state directly to Albert?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
new football stadium.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
F*ck your handegg.
…Give me ALBERT.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
gdm, did you grow up in st. louis?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
first 10 years of my life i grew up 30min NW of Poplar Bluff
the rest of the time i’ve been up here, so no.
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NO F'IN WAY
northwest; does that mean like ellsinore?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
did you play any Ozark Foothills Conference
T-ball or little league before you left? (this is getting a little weird)
I went to school and played for Fisk
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
nah, i had very over protective parents
i was never allowed to play any sports till high school
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man, that sucks
remember anyone from back in the day? Some Ellsinore names that were big that I remember: anyone named Stahl, Brock crowley, and I think there was some Eudaley ppl.
and I just realized that there is an age difference between you and I that makes this even more irrelevant.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
yeah, all those names ring bells, heck i'm related to some crowleys i think
my family was just at the grave yard cleaning at white’s mill in late august (my dad’s stone was just installed the day before) and they talked to tons of people, most of whom i didn’t remember. i didn’t go to ECC either, i went to a very small private school in hunter. but i still hung out with all the kids in town. the smith’s oldest son was probably my best friend.
you older or younger than early 30’s?
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27, will be 28 in november
I played AAU basketball with Brock and eventually played JUCO baseball with him also. I don’t remember any smiths specifically. Also played american legion ball with cameron carter.
Random: I remember there was a kid about my age that got his head blown off accidentally with a shotgun setting in a truck before school with one of his buddies. Had to be around my junior or senior year(97-99). They both played baseball and I always felt awful for the guy that survived.
My condolences on your father; I haven’t lost a parent yet and fear the day that it happens.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
ugh, moran, Mcdowell was their last name, not smith
smith was the last name of the girl i was crushing on back in the day.
i remember that story. i think one of them was my distant cousin. i think everyone’s related to everyone down there.
and thanks, dad was real sick for a long time. he’s been gone a year & a half. but it doesn’t seem like it’s been that long. weird.
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Mcdowell doesn't ring a bell
and I agree on the odd family tree.
How much over 30 are you anyway?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
might as well say i'm 32, it'll be official in 3 weeks anyway
his dad ran the ellsinore bank of grandan & is also a preacher at one of the baptist churchs. mike, big dude with a mustache. i hung out with justin all the time. and the smoot kids who grandpa ran the bank of grandan, and comb’s kids who dad ran the grocery store. and the pomeroy’s who lived right next door to us.
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mike mcdowell
now sounds vaguely familiar, not so much any of the rest.
Small world here on the intertubes; now its back to studying for me.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I don't get paying that kind of money for something only used 8 times a year.
Besides, this is an awful football town.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
6ly
I never see football games anymore because no one wants to spend the money to go to the stadium. Why make them spend money on another stadium for a team they don’t care about and that they probably won’t frequent except maybe the first year?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
...makes for a great convention center
:/
by EinFesteBusch on Sep 29, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 29, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
FLAGGED
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 29, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you can count me solidly in the "fuck handegg" camp.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 6:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Her breastases hinder the whole word...
…maybe she likes collages. Haha.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe she just really likes scrapbooking.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
she needs a cheeseburger.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I'll give her my cheeseburger...
…from McDonalds. Late night snack.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
deal!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
A pat on the back and a congratulatory note?
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
ugh, of course i'm not
i had hoped that didn’t need to be verified
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Oh damn, I got 26 offenders living within a 5-mile radius of my house.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting...
…I also found someone I used to go to HS with on the registry….
Weird stuff, man.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
A girl that was in my class
is in the pokie now for having sex w/ some of her 16 year old students. There were a lot of jokes told in her name at our class reunion.
And there is a TON of offenders not far from my house living in the apartment complexes around Chippewa and Kings Highway in South City. Meanwhile, 3/4 of a mile away, I live in picture perfect America. It’s a weird area.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Makes me crave Ted Drewes
hearing you talk about that area.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I never believed him FWIW
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh gdm, nobody really thinks you're a sex offender
2 chicks just backed you up. I think you’re probably safe.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
you never know what will become a meme around here
i wanted to kill this one quick before it did
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Wise decision.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
"2 chicks just backed you up."
of course, that’s still illegal in much of the south.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
that's the 1st & probably the last time you can say
gdm had two chicks do anything with or for him
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Fuck yeah it is!
But no gays settling down
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 29, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I knew I was in for it...
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
i'm sorry your name had to been soiled
by associating & defending the likes of me. f’in gdm
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Well, I wasn't doing much to keep my name clean in the first place
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
Oh, I lvoe it when usernames become verbs.
Wonder when I’ll get one? I’m usually called on only for photoshop work, lol
Don’t think I’m gettin’ verb’d anytime soon.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
how about we call any photoshops VEX's?
and we call you DJ VEX from now on for your mad remixin skillz on fire burning in the of?
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Do whatcha gotta do.
I’ll be a DJ if’n you want. lol
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 29, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe it's called "Autotune the Outfield"
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
It's whatever I call it!
And I don’t really care what it’s called…
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 29, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I would like to personally thank Jake Delhomme...
for throwing a pick six and losing a fumble in the last five minutes of tonight’s game, causing me a second consecutive fantasy football loss in which I outscored every team in my league except for the team I was playing.
Nothing like sitting in 8th place while leading the league in total points by a wide margin. I fucking love throwing money away.
And I know you don’t care even a little, but I needed to vent.
V, b.
i care
SCREW YOU DELHOMME!!!!
(did that help any?)
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
also
hang in there; my baseball season started the same way and now I’m 6 days away from walking out of there with the championship!
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Yeah...
But I should easily be 3-0, and instead I’m 1-2 with at least one of my big guns having a bye in each of the next few weeks. it could get away from me in a hurry.
V, b.
I, however, usedautopick
except to pick Peyton Manning and Jeremy Maclin and I am currently fifth in my league of all men who actually know and care about football and got another win this week. I have no idea what I’m doing though so i see a quick fall coming.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I've got Peyton, too...
Jake Delhomme only caused my demise because my opponent had the Cowboys defense.
V, b.
I would like to thank my Early Childhood teacher
for putting terms on our Midterm that we have never had in class. Thanks a lot.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
But that's what makes college a challenge
Wouldn’t be any fun if it were easy…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
Another picture from the Denver Post of the double play that wasn't...

Let me check…let’s see here…yep, STILL no one out in the top of the 9th.
V, b.
There was one out right?
Because the DP ended the inning?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 29, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah that...
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 29, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure I was halfway napping at that point.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 29, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Also...
We lead 5-4 now that Lugo and Skip have scored, Albert is at 3rd, Ludwick is at 1st, and Mark of Rose is batting. Let’s get some insurance runs.
V, b.
ofRose Sac flies, Ludwick advances to 2nd on the throw home.
Up 6-4, 1 out. Take it away.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
Freese GIDPs...
Franklin loads the bases, walks in a run with 2 outs, gets a fly ball to Carey Ralston in CF.
Game over, Cards win 6-5.
V, b.
minus the GS
Albert’s numbers in Cincy haven’t been as eye-popping as you would expect. OPS in Great American is .772 with a double, 2 HRs, and 3 Ks in 22 ABs. They improve considerably when you count the home games, but he just doesn’t seem to like playing out there.
sweet.
after losing Nick Adenhart, they’ve got a lot to play for
by EinFesteBusch on Sep 29, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
bobby abreu is not an intelligent man
they are interviewing him & ervin santana, and it’s awful
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life ain't easy for el comedulce
but he can’t be any worse than Jack Clark
by EinFesteBusch on Sep 29, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
If we don't get Holliday next year
even though he should probably be a DH at this point, I’d love to get Abreu on a 1yr/10m contract. Him or Mike Cameron. Abreu is crazy under-rated these days (wierdly, for a guy whose value comes entirely from his bat).
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 6:06 AM EDT up reply actions
watching 2006 World Series Game 1
7-1 Redbirds in the 6th.
Bring on October.
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.

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