Resting the Starters
by DanUpBaby on Sep 28, 2009 6:00 AM EDT
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The local handegg team had their home opener yesterday, and against my better judgment I joined momup and one cousinup for a trip to the EdwardJones Dome, which is apparently so run-down and antiquated fourteen years in that the Rams will have to move unless St. Louis drops $500 million in a series of unmarked official Rams logo briefcases at the location of a new stadium, which will last thirty years now that stadia tastes have crystalized forever. The new jumbo-jumbotron is really nice, though, except that with the renovations I'm pretty sure there is no clock, digital or analog, visible from the seats.
Anyway, football games always make me thankful for two things:
- Teams that pass the ball downfield.
- Baseball games.
Now that they've clinched I can say it: I like watching infielders in the outfield, sometimes. This seems like a bad time to play anybody but Colby Rasmus in center, since he seems in need of as many Getting Acclimated at-bats as he can possibly get, but giving Holliday a day off with flu-like symptoms and simultaneously giving David Freese a look at third? Excellent.
With the Cardinals' basic gameplan, in the last several games, centered around keeping Brendan Ryan from finding a way to injure another finger, we get an early taste of the pitched inaction of Hot Stove season. Take it away, Scott Boras:
"I don't even think that is going to be an issue," Boras said. "Rick Ankiel is going to go somewhere.
"There aren't many players who can play center field with his kind of power and his kind of arm strength. ... There are going to be a lot of teams who look at Rick as a substantial trade over what they have."
I'll say this for Boras: those are indeed Rick Ankiel's strengths. This isn't like those McDonalds ads that tout their weakest attribute, their indie-tinged whole foods cred, instead of the fact that their chicken mcnuggets are delicious. But even Scott Boras, as he's saying these words, has to hear the rebuttal: you've just named both his skills; now what?
Ankiel's a better player, I think, than he's shown this year; his anti-tools have been out in full force, and he's spent much of the year in a bad situation for a guy who was both a starter and the feel-good story of the decade this time last year. The Pirates seem like a recipe for disaster, if only by default, but as the big side of a platoon on some contender that does not have Colby Rasmus on it he's a good bounce-back candidate.
I love the Ankiel story in all its highs and lows; his curveball will always be my benchmark for outrageous pitches, and his outfield fastball has, as expected, brought about a few of my all-time favorite defensive jaw-droppers. But the bat not cooperating has done something I wouldn't have thought possible this past February—it's made me at peace, barring some playoff heroics au Natural, with an offseason departure that's been inevitable since before he ever started slumping.
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Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 28, 2009 6:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That fist looks scrawny
I suspect it belongs to a computer programmer or geneticist.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Sep 28, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are geneticists notoriously scrawny?
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Sep 28, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing that lifting
pipettes does little for their physique. Also, there was a geneticist in my circle of friends at college who was liable to slip through cracks in the floor.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Sep 28, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like
The market inefficiency for genetics companies would be to hire buff geneticists. Hell, they could study the genetics of their workers to see who could put on some muscle mass. ’Roided out geneticists could wield bigger pipettes=more work done no? After all, they are in the business of selling genes.
Moneynucleicacid.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Sep 28, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it does wonders for their wrist strength, though.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gots ta Drink Yer Moo Juice!
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MOOAAAAARRRR MOO JUICE!
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luv the Enthusiasm!
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's what pays the mortgage.
So I have moar enthusiasm than most.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Outstanding!
:=8D
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea why this picture exists
but it seems appropriate
by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about somebody who's studying both?
Oh wait, that’s me. Aw.
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
guilty as well
with computational chemistry leanings
by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Internet high five!
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I read in your profile that you're in Boston
Are you at Boston U? I almost went there for grad school. Just didn’t have the finances. That would have been something.
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Average age of VEB's readership
less than 30? It seems like there are a lot of current or recently graduated college students in these parts, myself included.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Sep 28, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You damn kids with yer rock music and yer internets!
(I have it on good authority it’s a series of tubes.)
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 28, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm 25 FWIW
I’d wager that the average age is under 30
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit...
I’ve got six more month’s before I’m the average age of a VEBer…(under 30).
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
by cardzfanbub on Sep 28, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
somewhere in there...
I forgot the words no and longer.
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
by cardzfanbub on Sep 28, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
10 months left here
time for my centrum silver
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I left thirty about nine years back. As of yesterday.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sooo...
does that mean yesterday was your birthday? If so, then a happy belated birthday!
by cardsgirl95 on Sep 28, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you cardgirl!
Yes, that was a blatant and totally shameless plug for some B’day attention. You figured me out.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happy Belated Birthday
enjoy 39 and remember that 40 ain’t no thang… it’s 41 that royally sucks
Don't ping my cheese with your bandwidth.
by RosevilleRedbird on Sep 28, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
Thirty was pretty bad. I can’t think that any of them will be worse until I hit sixty.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
43 Ain't No Cud Chew in the Park Either...
:=8/
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My dad turns 60 on Saturday
He is excited though since he is retiring
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh crap,
by extension does that mean I am in for it in a couple months with the big 51?
by ArkansasTravs on Sep 28, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
11 years.
Just felt like saying that.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Piss off.
Sorry, but that just NEEDED to be said.
(approaching thirty faster than is comfortable with)
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no you don't
you can’t possibly understand for another 8 years
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by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understood it needed to be said.
I thought what I said needed to be said as well.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm confused
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by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm closer to 30 than I am to the age I graduated high school
Lame
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yay for young people!
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
get off our lawn!
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by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same
for those who care.
Really, the only bad part of bacon is that it makes you thirsty . . . for more bacon
by jacksonian on Sep 28, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lots of Gen Y'ers...
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm also 25
I understand you only use the term “Gen Y’ers” descriptively, and it is accurate. But I’ve always hated it.
Anybody know what the term “millenials” actually means, when it comes to describing an age range or generation or whatever? Does it mean you were born after 2000 or something?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so.
Just because I’ve read some sociological studies on “millenials” that discussed voting patterns. Obviously, to be voting, millenials would have to have been born before 2000. Not that I know the definition or anything…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then I guess it means people who "came of age" at the beginning of the 2000's
Which would probably mean me. Damn it, another silly pop-sociology term to contend with.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
25 year olds REPRESENTIN'!!!
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
by STLRegalia on Sep 28, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Might as well add to the ranks.
25, also.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
by TheDuke32 on Sep 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Snowflakes"
I seem to remember a discussion last season where we were all slammed for thinking that we were special snowflakes. Does anyone else remember this? My takeaway from that discussion was that many of us were under 30.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Supposedly...
…Gen Y’ers refer to those between 0-30 years old, who run the economy (according to Hollywood and Wall Street); Gen X’ers (Woohoo!), are between 30-50 years old, and hate everything the baby Boomers and Gen Y’ers love (true dat!). And the Boomers, well, we all know who they are.
I don’t necessarily agree with all this stuff, but that is the general outlook of Corporate America. it would seem that Gen Y’ers, especially the younger ones (teens, tweens, etc), have moore discretionary income than anyone else, hence why everything (moovies, tv, moosic, etc) is geared towards them.
For a crusty old cow (43) like myself, it would be nice to see a tv show or moovie that does not involve a teenager, or moosic from people who actually know how to play instruments (as opposed to aping them via video games). But that’s just me…
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So does that make a
39yo like myself just an old piece of crap who needs to move into a nursing home? I hope not.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 28, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To the death panel with this one!
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Sep 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Death Panels, run by the Church of England
CAKE or DEATH?
Cake.
Well alright, then, you can go.
CAKE or DEATH?
Um, cake, please.
Very well.
CAKE or DEATH?
Cake.
C’mon, we can’t be giving out cake to everybody, we’re running low.
Well, can I still have some?
Here you go.
CAKE or DEATH?
Death.
Really?
No, I’m just kidding. Cake, please.
No, no, no, I heard you say Death.
No, I was just messing around.
Well, since we’re the Church of England, cake it is.
[NOTE: Not to be confused with the Crucifixion bit from Life of Brian.]
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
by Solanus on Sep 28, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, we're all out of cake. We only ordered the two bits and we didn't expect there to be such a rush...
So my choice is “or death”???
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
I didn’t bother looking it up, just riffing on the general theme. Normally my brother is so helpful in correcting in matters such as these, but he’s not paying attention to me.
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
by Solanus on Sep 28, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
I doubt I have it perfectly. But man I love me some Eddie Izzard.
Yes, what is it Leftenant Sebastian?
Well, it’s just the rebels, sir… they’re here.
My god man!!… Do they want tea?
No, I’m afraid they’re after something more than that, sir. I don’t know what it is, but they’ve brought a flag.
Damn! That’s dash cunning of them!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude don't give them any ideas.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So much for the judgment that baseball can't attract young people.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Musial
by vico on Sep 28, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They just have to be young people who are smart.
So in other words, the sport is doomed. Dooooomed!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
8 of you
Will be needed to offset me.
by alberich on Sep 28, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love when we pry someone out
from the depths of lurking.
alberich -
UID: 147
comments: 37
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Sep 28, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have i really posted 37?
I’d have said about 5 …
Being a humble man (outside my own field), I come to learn rather than argue.
I’m also so much older than most of the people here I don’t write the language very well.
by alberich on Sep 28, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UID
what is that? Should I have one?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Sep 28, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are number 2111
(it’s your old school user id)
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sweet
how does one look at that?
NVM, I see it now. I’m a moran!
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Sep 28, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there sure seem to be a lot of morans on this site
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't let liam see this
he says there can be only one
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by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
step one in the art of stalking...
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
still not as old as I am
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im willing to bet that is true
or at least they are the most vocal.
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
by nomar34 on Sep 28, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and by they i mean we
as i am 27
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
by nomar34 on Sep 28, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
22 years old here
Where’s fang to pull down the average age around here?
by mojowo11 on Sep 28, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
I was just thinking — I believe DanUp is about my age. The fact that he writes so brilliant for a site largely full of people that are his elders and never disappoints impresses me. (And, of course, I should extend this to chuckb and baron, who write just as brilliantly. Thanks. [And also to lboros, if you’re out there — we still love you, you crazy old coot.])
Every once in a while I just think we should sit back and be thankful for this great community. I don’t really have anyone else with whom to talk intelligently about Cardinals baseball, so I don’t know what I’d do if this place wasn’t so shockingly, mind-bogglingly, consistently high in quality. I’d probably have to, I dunno, actually do work or something.
by mojowo11 on Sep 28, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I appreciate the kind words
Writing on a schedule is a lot more difficult than posting once a week whenever I felt like it was, but I’m hoping it gets easier sometime before I reach the ostensible average age of this site. Even if it doesn’t it’s been worth getting to be a part of this community, which is truly and inexplicably ridiculous.
by DanUpBaby on Sep 29, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll pull it down to our level too... 22 hurr.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RIGHT HERE
though zoom zoom and rasmusgirl got me.
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're 17 and 16 right?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Respectively, I believe.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
19 years and 4.25 months
suck on that.
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my Philodendron house plant
will be 36 this Christmas.
by ubeddie on Sep 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm at MIT for another couple months (hopefully defending in December)
I’d be happy with your decision to stay in the south. I decided to come here over UCSD and have regretted the decision for 5 winters running.
by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im sure the regret wont last once you have your
degree(s) from MIT…
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
by nomar34 on Sep 28, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i almost went to MIT for grad school
but i stayed in california for a girl (and to attend a better grad school, at least in my field) — and it was the best decision i ever made.
by djones9 on Sep 28, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait, there are other VEBers in Boston?
holy shit, I thought I was the only one taking up residence in the center of the the axis of evil of the sports world. Anyone know if there are any bars in boston that cardinals fans tend to frequent?
by mattyp on Sep 28, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've heard that the Uno's on Boylston has some cards fans
but I’ve never been myself
by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am the Card fan at the Uno's on Boylston
I live across the street. Unfortunately, they got rid of the MLB satellite package this year, so I ended up ordering it for myself. However, in past years, the Cards game was always on a couple of TVs there if I happened to come in.
I’m interested how you heard about that, considering it is basically just me, and occasionally this less-serious Cardinal fan.
by olddomination on Sep 28, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your solitary stand against the evil tide that is Beantown must be legendary
and is known throughout the city.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am in boston too
are any cards fans gonna meet up here for any playoff games? (hopefully well into the postseason)
by cardgirl on Sep 28, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I'd definitely be up for something like that
right now I’m limited to mlb.tv, so it’d be fun to actually meet up with some other cardinals fans and watch a game.
by mattyp on Sep 28, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
when it gets to the postseason we can plan something (is it ok to do a fanpost in this vein?). in ‘06 a few of us VEBer’s got together for a few games, including the final WS game, and it was a blast.
by cardgirl on Sep 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not counting Card games I've been to at Shea/Fenway
I’ve only known two other real Cardinal fans in my life, so it would be a completely new experience to watch a game among other fans.
by olddomination on Sep 28, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know Jeff Roman lives in Boston.
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
indeed
though I think he has basically sworn off watching sports in Boston bars. I’ll try to coax him out some time this postseason.
by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uno's in Boston
Don’t know if the Uno’s near Fenway is the one on Boylston, but my brother and I ate there before catching a game there back on 6/12/2003 (that ugly extra-inning affair when Rolen busted up his shoulder; also our 30th birthday – not Rolen’s, he’s an Aries). I remember going there and eating their Chicago-style chili, which I thought was funny, because I live in the Chicago burbs and usually have their New England clam chowder.
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
by Solanus on Sep 28, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm actually using the ticket stub to that game as a bookmark
By the 11th, most of the bleachers were Cards fans. Larussa was at the top of his game in that one, consistently walking Manny with men on to get to Trot Nixon, who kept popping up.
I believe the forgettable Garrett Stephenson started that one.
by olddomination on Sep 28, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This post mentions it, but it must have been mentioned previously on VEB, cause I know the poster and he definitely didn’t have first hand knowledge.
by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The "Cards Bar" monicker I made up
When joking with my friend who is the bartender there if the Cardinals weren’t on one of the TVs. “What’s up with these Red Sox and New York games on? I thought this was a Cahds Bahr?”
But having two semi-regulars who are Cards fans probably does constitute a “Cards Bar” in Boston.
And no, the Uno’s near Fenway is not the one we’re speaking of. Nor is the one in Northeastern University. This one is the one across from the Lord and Taylor’s downtown.
by olddomination on Sep 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never been in the bar,
but that is, hands down, the nicest Lord and Taylor’s I’ve ever been in.
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a shitty restaurant
There’s good music if my friend is bartending, they have a lot of tvs, nfl package…but unfortunately no mlb satellite.
And it takes me a minute to walk to.
by olddomination on Sep 28, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Always nice to have an establishment in quick walking distance.
Unfortunately, where I live, I have to get in my car to do anything. It sucks.
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well this is a pretty awesome sub-thread
I dunno who’s fist it is. Thank google images. I recommend you have “safe search” on if you’re going to type “fist” into it, though.
I actually am a geneticist (which you might’ve already known) in the medical field (i.e. I don’t sell genes, I test them for heritable diseases), and I do have relatively scrawny wrists (I have to wear a wrist strap when I’m playing volleyball because I bust my right wrist about 9 years ago and it’s still a bit weak). I do go to the gym to supplement my pipette-lifting, however.
Also, I’m guessing I’m at about the mean age here – 29.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 4:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who's = whose.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 4:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A friend of my just got back from a conference in Cambridge (UK)
Genomics of Common Diseases, I believe. He said he saw some pretty impressive work on sequencing the exome of two parents and two children and nailing the genetic causes of Mendelian diseases in no time.
by brackenthebox on Sep 29, 2009 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your profession must have rooted itself somewhere in my memory
I don’t generally sling barbs at the genetics community but at the time, it seemed apt. Turned out it was!
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Sep 29, 2009 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Ank does catch on as a starter somewhere else
As awful as he’s looked and for how much I can’t stand seeing him play given his current sucking (not funny ironic ha-ha sucking, 50% of PAs ending in Ks sucking) and there being a clear ‘better than him at every aspect of the game’ option, I’m still rooting for the guy long term.
Strangely though I get a weird feeling he’s going to a chance in the postseason and run into a 784 foot home run at a big time. Gotta love being super biased. I’d settle for those 784 feet being spread over two HRs but my hopes aren’t high.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Sep 28, 2009 6:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really wonder what Rick could do
if he had a different hitting coach other than Hal McRae. Somebody to make Rick a more complete hitter (if that’s possible).
I think Rick’s best chance to have a longer career is to get out of St. Louis and learn a different approach at the plate, get a different instructor other than Hal.
Of course I would like to see what a lot of our guys could do with a different hitting coach. I know this sounds like I hate Hal McRae….I really don’t. I really respect the guy and the career he had with the Royals. But I am ready for a new hitting coach next year.
Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon
by KYCards on Sep 28, 2009 7:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Disagree.
It’s skillset he is missing not a new approach. He swings and misses a lot. Yes he gets fooled like all other hitters but he swings and misses A LOT. That’s skill not approach. Good hitters can hit no matter the hitting coach. And you can’t tell me he isn’t taking extra BP or being coached/watching film right now. It is probably time to accept the fact that he’s not an everyday player. He will probably have a ok career as a platoon or 4th outfielder. Nothing wrong with that.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Sep 28, 2009 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I think the league has caught up to him
it does sometimes happen that a new player goes on a tear for 6 months or so, and then disappears off the face of the earth after all the pitchers and scouts work out what his weaknesses are.
I think he’s a reasonable bounce-back candidate next year but I’m expecting a bounce back to , say, a .750-odd OPS, instead of the .800+ we were all hoping for this year. I can’t really see him being an above average player in the majors going forward.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 4:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of it is just not being a hitter to begin with IMO
He hasn’t had the repetition (and won’t ever get that chance before his skills erode) necessary to be good at pitch recognition and that ultimately is his problem. . Plus he never even had the true progression up the minor league ladder to progressively build that skill up. Obviously when he connects the ball goes a long way but he just can’t make that regularly happen given his inability to control the strikezone/recognize breaking balls.
He’s seen something like ~5000 pitches in his professional career in 1800 PAs, Rasmus at age 23 has more professional PAs and he didn’t take 7 years off from focusing on hitting. Ankiel before this year’s disaster was a .250 ISO type hitter which is just absurd when you think about his career path. Gotta wonder had he been a hitter to begin with how good he could have been: .280 .380 .550 is hardly a stretch if you even marginally revise up his 07/08 numbers with the development of any semblance of plate discipline.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Sep 28, 2009 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a superb athlete
I tend to think you might be right about how good he MIGHT’VE been as a hitter.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 4:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have always had this feeling in the back of my mind
that somewhere down the road in his mid thirties,, Ankiel will be inticed by somebody or some organisation to go back to the mound.
That is really where he should be. What an effective loogy he could be…and he just have the maturity of mind at that time to do it. Shame it probably won’t be the Cardinals but that is the one thought that always make me hinge on the thought of giving up on Ankiel.
by ridgesee on Sep 28, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
correction
“might have the maturity”
by ridgesee on Sep 28, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
EAT MOOORE MCNUGGETS!!!!
:=8O
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 8:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and less beef!
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn Straight!
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone remember John Nelson being called up in 2006?
I saw him in a highlight from that September on KSDK last night and couldn’t help to think he might be the most non-descript call up of all time.
And still… No Allen Craig.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 9:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shortstop, right?
I barely remember it, and I barely remember him doing nothing!
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not enough games left! Boog still has 8 fingers to go!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mateo reference in Miklasz's Rams column...
Still, unless you’re a hotshot prospect signed out of the Dominican Republic by the baseball Cardinals, you could see that Boller kick-started the Rams offense.
A bit much? Column
by dccardsfan on Sep 28, 2009 9:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait --
Still, unless you’re a quadriplegic trapped in a wheelchair due to Addison’s disease, you could see that Boller’s movement added another facet to the Rams’ offense.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Sep 28, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
HFS ®
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be starting at the P-D on Wednesday.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Sep 28, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you want some plastic bags?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still unless you’re a morbidly obese sportswriter, you could see . . . .
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Sep 28, 2009 11:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Dear me
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a House allusion
just so everyone doesn’t think I a meaner robot than I actually am.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Sep 28, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree on NFL fans
And if you ever want to meet some ugly, angry fans go to a ‘football’ game in europe.
by _pistol_ on Sep 28, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
it depends where you go, really
in England there’s a saying – rugby is a thug’s game played by gentlemen, and football/soccer is a gentlemen’s game played/watched by thugs. Although actually, England/Scotland might be one of the better countries to go in terms of a watching experience – actual crowd violence (which is still quite common in club football in Italy, Turkey, Poland, Germany and a few other places) has basically been completely extinguished in England since the 80s.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen green Street Hooligans
and that was made in 2005. I’m not fooled.
/I let Hollywood tell me everything about life.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 29, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is something poetic about the Rams' awfulness.
I kept becoming confused as I lazily followed the game on TV. At some point I thought I heard them announce that Bulger was warming up, making me think, “who is that other guy then?” No, it was Boller. The similar sounding name seems appropriate since apparently they’re doomed to lose no matter who is out there. One of their offensive line “stars” is named Incognito. Their third string QB is apparently named Null. You can’t make this stuff up.
Also, I had no idea that Leonard Little was still in football, let alone still playing with the Rams.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 11:01 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I like the poetry slam better
I’m not in a pennant race, but at least I have some pride. … When you go out there and you turn your TV on and watch stupid-ass football when those — football players don’t give a — about you, that’s embarrassing.
“We have how many games, seven games they have to put their — together. Because I don’t mind losing games. That’s part of the game. But when you lose games and you don’t even care about it, we’re going to have problems. … Getting your ass kicked like that, then all of a sudden you’re watching football games, that’s a bunch of —.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was one of the best rants ever.
The chair slam at the end totally made it.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
U Thuink They're Bad?
Cleveland is even worse!!
:=8O
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you all have no idea
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Football vs. Baseball -- In-Person
I’ve never really enjoyed watching a football game in-person, at the stadium. It doesn’t matter if it’s college or pro. However, I love watching baseball games in person. I can’t really put my finger on why this is, but this is my preference.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like both.....
As long as I have a vested interest in the football game, or it is the right “atmosphere.”
Matt Holliday. Nuff said.
by SoonerfanTU on Sep 28, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my vested interest
in tonights game is a total score of 49 or more. Or one punt into the video screen
by ubeddie on Sep 28, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is just that majic sound of bat on ball and the sound of the slap of ball on the leather glove that make baseball so great.
The hawking of vendors help also. The atmosphere of a ballpark on a cool summer night can not be created anywhere else.
by ridgesee on Sep 28, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree...
I love a solid college football game in person… pro… enjoy, but not nearly as much.
Proud to be a member of The Night of the Longest Train Wreck Ever (9/10/09)
by slash2049 on Sep 28, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love college football games.
I am not really a football fan but I love going to football games here.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Death Valley is a prettty awesome place if you're a Clemson fan...
still remember my school (UVa) being something line 0-42 at Death Valley ’till they finally won a game there. Ugh…
youneverknow
by floodOfLove on Sep 28, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd Moooch Rather...
…watch College basketball, especially in person, ESPECIALLY during Tourney-Time!
Go ’Nova!!!!!
:=8D
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
College Basketball is awesome.
It’s my second favorite sport. Not Pro, College. I hate Pro basketball.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's Go 'Nova!!!!!
:=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dear 'Nova...
Signed,
-Tar Heels Devotee
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They Cheated!!!
:=8P
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, all the way to Detroit, huh?
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GO TAR HEELS!!!
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TAR!
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gag me w/ a smurf
Please don’t mention those inbred fools from Norf Cackalackee. I’m a Virginia Cavalier guy, and expect us to be good sometime before the Cubs win it all.
youneverknow
by floodOfLove on Sep 28, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, after we've all died?
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep, unfortunately that's what I meant.
youneverknow
by floodOfLove on Sep 28, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better than Go Duke, IMO.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess
… in a lesser of two evils sort of way. Dookies are pretty annoying too, but at least they’re creative.
youneverknow
by floodOfLove on Sep 28, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he probably just likes them because of Psycho T
he should be ashamed of himself. Mizzou BBall is almost back.
i love Duke too. between them, the Yanks & Cowboys, i’m surprised i’m still alive.
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by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thoroughly enjoyed Mizzou's beatdown of Memphis...
So, so sweet.
V, b.
by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've always been a big Mizzou BBall fan
and that game was awesome.
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by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I don't give a shit about Mizzou...
But nothing makes my dick hard like Memphis getting trampled.
V, b.
by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think you're going to be, um,,,
not being able to stand in a crowd for most of the winter this year
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by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They'll be okay...
But most of my disdain for them has been transferred to Kentucky, which already had plenty of my disdain. It’s amazing how quickly a Final Four team can come to be when you play by a different set of rules.
V, b.
by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was in Panama for Spring break during that
That was a very expensive night.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Sep 28, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate Duke.
I think you misunderstood that part.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, i got it
i know i’m a fan of the axis of evil in sports, and i’m OK with it
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by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GO ZAGS>>>>>>
Boo ACC, BCS, etc.
"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR Passan
by RiverRat on Sep 28, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh you poor thing...
“We’re really good until we get to the 2nd round!”
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering where this program is
and where it was 10 or so years ago, I will take it. Also, look out for them in the next 2-3 years. Phenomenal 7 player freshman class, lots of international guys. They’re going to be a tough team for a while.
Also, I’d put their OOC schedule this year against any Conference schedule out there. Mich St, Duke, Illinois, Wake, OK and Memphis. They aren’t screwing around.
"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR Passan
by RiverRat on Sep 28, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gonzaga always has a stacked OOC schedule to impress the committee
because they know that once they get into their conference play, they simply blow through their schedule playing inferior teams.
looking at the games you mentioned, i’ll say gonzaga does no better than 3-3 in those games.
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I'd take that....
The tough OOC gives them a back up plan for an at large bid if they happen to not win the WCC Tourney. I’d really like to see them move into the MWC or something, but the lack of a football program really hurts when it comes to moving conferences. NCAA should just move the BBall program into PAC 10.
"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR Passan
by RiverRat on Sep 28, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
notre dame did it
why not the zags?
"The field mouse is fast but the owl sees at night"
by pinkelposse on Sep 28, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand why...
the Pac-10 doesn’t poach BYU and Utah from the Mountain West. Both have very food football and basketball programs, plus they’d represent one more set of regional pairs to keep up that trend (USC-UCLA, Cal-Stanford, Arizona-Arizona State, Oregon-Oregon State, Washington-Washington State). I love that about the Pac-10.
But most importantly, you could split up the 12 into divisions and play a conference championship game in football, which is a straight cash cow. That was the major motivation for the ACC to expand. They watched the SEC and Big 12 cash in on that every year and they finally did the sensible thing.
The Big 10 could add a team and do the same thing, but it doesn’t seem like they want anyone other than Notre Dame, and that isn’t happening.
V, b.
by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good* basketball and football programs...
not food.
V, b.
by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BOOOO ACC!
:=8P
Go Big East! Go ’Nova!
:=8D
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the best sport to watch in person
has gotta be hockey, well with two equal teams. Although the keil/savis/scott trade isn’t even close to the old checker dome. I remember the loudest sporting event i have ever been to has in the mid 90’s at the checker dome for a blues/ red wing game. you had to yell at the person next to you. Loudness aside tv does no justice to a in person hockey game. post season baseball is better, but i have never been to a post season hockey or football game.
Also the stadium also helps, the ej dome is a piece of shit to the nth degree, i’d had rather watched a football game in bush II (never did). i’d watched the steelers play the oilers/titans in memphis @ the liberty bowl, and its rained 2 inches it was still a better experince than the 2 games if have seen at the ej dome. anyone who says baseball was better in the old ash tray known as busch II, than busch III, all i have to say is: what are you smoking and where can i get some?
"Chuck Norris CAN divide by zero"
by elirock83 on Sep 28, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it looks like someone forgot about curling...
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
by nomar34 on Sep 28, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i will stand up for curling
And say the one time I played, it was fun.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Sep 28, 2009 12:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
But nothing is more stimulating
to the loins as womens beach volleyball
by ridgesee on Sep 28, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After my own heart.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how could sweeping ice
not be fun?
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
by nomar34 on Sep 28, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hockey is pretty great
I definitely love Baseball the most on TV and in person by far, but Hockey is my second favorite sport to see. Hopefully I’ll get to catch a Blues game in Chicago this year. Tix at UC are so pricey though…
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Need to do the same
Still haven’t caught one yet in the 13 years I’ve been up here. You might see me there – I’ll be the non-descript white guy with the random polo.. Say Hi when you do. J/k … I bought a sweet personalized, alternate home jersey this winter and am looking forward to showing it off.
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
by Solanus on Sep 28, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oooo
I like those 3rd jerseys!! I was at the Hawks Preseason opener this season. It was my first game at UC and I have to say I was kind of moderately appalled at the tradition(?) of clapping through the entire national anthem. It just seems like a dumb redneck thing to do, but then again these are the same fans that root for the cubs, so I guess it makes sense.
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ive only seen concerts at the UC
but it seems to me that there wouldnt be a bad seat in the house there for a hockey game
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 28, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We sat in the upper corner
and saw everything. It was a great venue esp. for its age.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stadiums
I don’t really like the atmosphere in any of the newer stadiums I’ve seen any professional sport in. They don’t even approach the atmosphere of a Busch II, which shook when something amazing happened. Now, in the new, open designs, the collective noise of the hometown faithful seems to be lost to the open air. Comparing Mile High to the new corporate Broncos stadium, for instance, is worthless because there is no comparison. I just hope the Chiefs don’t get a new stadium.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they move from Arrowhead...
…there will be a literal riot. My KC acquaintances would literally lay down in the stands to prevent detonation.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 28, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sold beer one year at Busch.
1983. I was working a couple jobs. In the evenings during homestands I’d head down to the stadium and sell beer, back in the days when they were longnecked bottles. Hard work, and pretty much of a drag since I always preferred to be watching the games, but I needed the dough. It had its moments. I was there the night Forsch threw his second no-hitter. I stopped selling entirely and watched the 9th inning from a box seat.
We were asked to sell beer at a couple preseason football games, too. I hated it. The tenor of the crowd changed noticeably between baseball and football. The people were more demanding, less friendly, in general more full of themselves. The atmosphere in the stadium was just different. It’s not all that surprising. The two sports have a very different feel.
by Youneverknow on Sep 28, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what was your beer call?
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
by nomar34 on Sep 28, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you know Buschy-Wooshy Beer Man?
I loved that guy.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball is my favorite but I still like football.
I enjoy my Cardinal games and stuck with them through the bad and good times. Thank goodness there have been more good. I will do the same for the Rams. I miss the greatest show on turf but remember the Tony Banks days too. Hopefully I will live to see them turn this thing around. The guys that sit near us at the games are harmless. I’m used to their noise. Basically they are great guys
by momup on Sep 28, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
From Straussy,
in the game story:
With rookie infielder Tyler Greene playing his first professional game in center field and Mark DeRosa making his Cardinals debut in right field, the Cardinals fell behind 2-0 before rallying on first baseman Albert Pujols’ three-run double for a brief lead.
This sentence about sums up the months of September during the TLR Era, doesn’t it?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Time for another Kuh-razy Sub-tember!!!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But we usually read endless stories
about how TLR keeps the team “focused”. Whatev.
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by azruavatar on Sep 28, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does that all year.
Keep everyone sharp and ready to contribute. It worked great with So…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thursday's lineup
should be interesting. 12:30 pm start after a night game. I heard Glaus might be ready to play.
by ubeddie on Sep 28, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 idle thoughts -
1) Perhaps tony looks at tyler as a possible bench player next year. Both rasmus and the next in line prospect (Jay, presuming sugar shane does not impress anybody) are LH. If tony wants a RH to take the odd game in CF v. a LHP, there are crazier people to put there than tyler.
2) Rick Ankiel to the White Sox? Gut feeling.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Sep 28, 2009 11:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Ankiel in Toronto Next Year....
is my gut feeling. Well, one of four, anycow…
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OOTP Baseball 10
I traded Ankiel to Toronto in my first season at the helm. Don’t remember who I got for him (I make a lot of transactions), but he’s doing fairly well (now with Cincinnati in 2012).
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
by Solanus on Sep 28, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sugar Shane is a Sacramento River Cat
by SouthsideCardsFan on Sep 28, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that was" Sugar 2" Shane Peterson?
As opposed to Sugar Shane Robinson? Or do I have them mixed up now? Gah.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah peterson is with the oakland org.
Robinson is still with us but doesn’t seem to have impressed anybody.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Sep 28, 2009 12:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
He's pretty small...
the David Eckstein of outfield prospects.
by yonjuro on Sep 28, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you're saying he does all the little things right,
plays 110% every moment of the game, and can’t hit, throw, field, or run very well?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good at fielding and running.
You still can’t make a career out of that,
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Sep 28, 2009 5:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I actually wonder, if Mather doesn't make it back to some semblance of his former level,
whether we’ll have to go outside the org for a RH 4th OF who can play CF next year. It’s kinda annoying that the three best OF prospects who might make it to the show in the next 3 years (Jay, Henley, Jones) are all southpaws. Rasmus should play every day, I suppose, but I still feel that our ideal bench OF bat would probably be right-handed and capable of playing CF. I’m not sure Allen Craig is that guy.
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda makes sense...
I know Kenny’s expressed reservation on passing up Dye’s option.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Permission to use this as my new sig?
Anyway, football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games.
DanUp
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll have to check with my publishers, but granted
by DanUpBaby on Sep 28, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sweet thanks!
You’re the best DanUp!!
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The biggest Rams fan I know
was born and raised in NewYork. All of my friends from St. Louis choose another football team to cheer for if they cheer for one at all.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
one of those ppl
but growing up in the late 80’s/early 90’s there wasn’t a football team, and i couldn’t bare routing for a team in arizona. lots of family from pa, steelers pretty blue collar it works for me. just my non-rams reasoning
"Chuck Norris CAN divide by zero"
by elirock83 on Sep 28, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't get how someone can pull for a team that should be in LA
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by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the team that should be here is in Arizona!
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Sep 28, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(And that team was from Chicago, iirc.)
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Sep 28, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NLDS Game 4 (if neither club sweeps)
Do you start Lohse or Smoltz? Lohse appears to be regaining some of his ‘08 form and will be under contract for tens of millions of dollars for three more seasons. Smoltz in the ’pen is palatable, but shouldn’t TLR use Smoltz out of the ’pen before the second week of October to make sure that this is a viable strategy?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if Smoltz can be used out of the pen
then i am all for Lohse starting a couple games. If Smoltzy can’t handle throwing on back to back days or even every other day then i say let him start. Unless we are facing the Phillies; too many good lefties.
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
by nomar34 on Sep 28, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely Lohse...
…so we can benefit from mooore innings with Smoltz in the ’pen.
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would hope the answer is neither (nlds that is)
with the right days off TLR shouldn’t have to use either one and that would be how i would want it.
"Chuck Norris CAN divide by zero"
by elirock83 on Sep 28, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh for crying out loud.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a losing battle, Alex.
Just accept it.
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
KABLOOEY?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony's Jedi Mind Tricks
I watched on TBS and loved as I tuned in and Buck Martinez stated in all seriousness,
“Despite clinching, Tony LaRussa is still going with his “A” team today." I thought really? Martinez repeated it several times. Then they did live interview with Tony wherein he stated that this was all the starters except Holliday. Again, really?
When did Freese become the starter at 3b? When did DeRosa become a starter in RF? And most of all, since when is Tyler Freaking Greene the starter in CF.
I really didn’t care what the lineup was, but lets not pretend that was the typical starting lineup for the Birds.
And gee, wouldn’t Allen Craig have looked pretty good in LF for that lineup?
by OCCardsFan on Sep 28, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Allen Craig would have looked great in LF.
The national broadcasters are not very good. They often make statements about clubs and players that are patently false. It’s frustrating. ESPN’s are the worst about doing this, and, since Buck used to call games for ESPN, I’m not really surprised that he would call a lineup with a SS making his first MLB start in CF an “”http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=a-team&docid=1316302290953&FORM=VIRE#" >A Team."
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well....
it’s ‘a’ team, just not an “A” team…
:=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the record...
They often make statements about clubs and players that are patently false.
Mike Shannon does this, too. I usually just shake my head and chuckle a bit…it’s usually later in games when this happens.
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
by cardzfanbub on Sep 28, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"...later in the game..."
Hmmmm. I wonder why that could be.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably just a coincidental thing...
he’s even more enjoyable after a lengthy rain delay.
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
by cardzfanbub on Sep 28, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jay Randolph?
He is absolutely terrible.
by ICbirdfan on Sep 28, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shannon actually said "Cincinnapolis" during yesterdays game
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 28, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they really aren't national broadcasters
buck calls O’s games & that other douche calls the brew crew games. he was so obviously biased it wasn’t even funny. 6ly, i can’t stand that douche.
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by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
same guys, different positions?
Lugo – usual position (starts against lefties)
Ryan – usual position (starter)
Pujols – usual position (starter)
Ludwick – LF, not RF (starter)
DeRosa – RF, not 3B (starter)
Freese – 3B (not a starter)
LaRue – C (yadi’s status?)
Greene – CF (not a starter)
Freese replaces Holliday and moves DeRosa to RF, moving Ludwick to LF.
Greene replaces Rasmus in CF, because the kid still hasn’t earned a starting position. (he needs to keep the fire burning in the outfield)
so in TLR’s eyes, that was his A-team minus Holliday
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
by STLRegalia on Sep 28, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looks to me like he's trying out some
different ideas against left handed starting pitching, and we’re going to see a lot of that in the playoffs, mind you.
If you put Holliday back in the lineup, I think you get the same lineup only with Ludwick in CF and Greene on the bench. Freese is much better defensively than DeRosa is at 3B, DeRosa is a solid if unspectacular RF, and Ludwick can hold his own in CF (In fact, he’s probably better than either Skip or Ankiel in CF, imo). If Freese can hit while playing at 3B, then he becomes the guy they put on the postseason roster, leaving Troy Glaus off. But you have to see if he’s going to hit before you can do that — it’s pretty obvious that Glaus isn’t hitting.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Sep 28, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right.
I firmly believe that lineup you descirbe—Holliday in LF, DeRosa in RF, Ludwick in CF, and Freese at 3B—could very well be penciled in for the next regular season game versus a lefty starter.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is a very good idea as well
It’s obvious that neither Ankiel or Rasmus can hit left handed pitching, so it makes more sense to shift things around defensively to get someone who might fare better (Freese) in the lineup.
To be totally honest, I’m not sure why Ankiel would even be on the post season roster. You have DeRosa, who can play the OF corners, Schu and Ludwick can man any of the OF positions, and you have a better bat, imo, in Freese to face LH pitching. He doesn’t take good AB’s late and close, he doesn’t do well pinch hitting, so I see no reason to carry him when you don’t have to.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Sep 28, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the subject of Rasmus,
I wonder how to go about fixing him against LH, or is this going to be his Achilles’ Heel.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His career minor league platoon splits are nowhere near as bad as this season.
So, there is hope that he could improve moving forward.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't look that lost either
Not that I necessarily put much stock in that, but when he’s facing even tougher lefties, he doesn’t “look” as bad as Ank/Dunc have this year, so I feel that there’s hope.
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For that matter,
I don’t think that Khalil or Thursty should be on the postseason roster. As far as I’m concerned, Ankiel, Khalil, and Thursty can watch the games at Brian Barden’s house. After all, if we win, they’ll all get a ring even if they don’t get a champagne bath.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't thank me.
Thank Rob Neyer, or, as I look at the Fanshots bar, our prolific fanshooter Yadi2Second.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do a lot of shots.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wild turkey?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would think Y2S is more of a jello shot guy
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
reading my profile, are you
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at first I thought it was cotton candy and pickles
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like sour. sweet tooth will get me into trouble, though.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They could have a four-man champagne man stew
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 28, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
math problem
exclude all those guys and the NLDS roster ends up having 14 pitchers. From what I’ve read, the Cards are planning to carry 14 position players and 11 pitchers into the NLDS. The Aug 31 25 man plus DL had 14 position players and 14 pitchers. The Cards would have to DL someone to make any other position player eligible for the postseason. And the players union won’t look to kindly on phantom injuries to Thursty or Ank. Kbot and Glaus are another story.
So IMO the choice is four from Ankiel, Thurston, Glaus (or dl sub 1), Kbot (or dl sub 2) , Welly, Thompson and Boggs.
by ubeddie on Sep 28, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK,
I would go with Glaus, if healthy, Boggs, Allen Craig, and Ankiel, in case we need an emergency closer in Game 7 or something.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sidebar says...
Glaus may be ready to resume play. I hope it’s one of Freese or Glaus that we take to the postseason, and JT gets omitted.
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
by cardzfanbub on Sep 28, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buck Martinez
At least he has an excuse…. He does not cover the Cards.
I did not get the TBS game being from Iowa I had to watch the game with Rick Horton and Jay Randolph announcing. I wish I was able to watch the TBS game.
Jay Randolph is absolutely terrible. I honesty don’t know why he announces games anymore. Joe Morgan is honestly better than him. Randolph is so confused it’s not even funny…
by ICbirdfan on Sep 28, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was that the FS Midwest broadcast?
In Des Moines, we used to get the Sunday games back when the St. Louis CW affiliate carried them. Since the St. Louis NBC affiliate carries them these days, we no longer get them.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No it was the Channel 5 broadcast....
FS Midwest does every game except Sunday games. News Channel 5 in STL does those games and I have a local channel that must pick up the News Channel 5 game.
Rick Horton is not bad, but Jay just makes listening tough.
by ICbirdfan on Sep 28, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But
I do like Horton when he does games.
by saladdays on Sep 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There seems to be a lot of anti-Ricky Horton sentiment out there
But I don’t mind him too much. It could just be that it’s by comparison to Dan n’ Al and Randolph.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Ricky Horton.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spants had the best description of Rick
Basically, he says as much dumb stuff as Al, he just says it pleasantly and with a boy next door grin, so you don’t really notice it.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly while i hate ricky. not as much as AL, but i still hate him
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by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
next year we will have Cal, and all will be right with the world
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That, and that his voice is harder to zone out. I don't even notice Al anymore.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Sep 28, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ankiel
Does anyone here really think that boras would say anything else about ankiel? He’s his agent and wants to make as much money as possible for ankiel, as well as himself. I really wish ank the best of luck next year as i see little to no chance him being back. He just seems to have fallen off the mountain this year, to find pitches to hit, i keep wondering why anyone throws him a fastball anymore. I look forward to some of the youth to take his spot and do a better job
"Chuck Norris CAN divide by zero"
by elirock83 on Sep 28, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OT: Adam Dunn watch!
Dunn has seven games to hit exactly two home runs. If he hits EXACTLY two homers, he will have his fifth straight year with exactly 40 homers. And that, my friends, is awesome.
by mojowo11 on Sep 28, 2009 12:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Adam Dunn...
if only he didn’t hate baseball..and America.
(J/K, that would indeed be awesome.)
by cardsgirl95 on Sep 28, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's incredible.
The odds of four seasons in a row with exactly 40 HR, let alone, five, has to be almost infinitesimal.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The odds would be ridiculous...
unless he’s a quitting, baseball-hating quitter, who quits trying to hit homeruns once he reaches 40 for the year. We know he doesn’t play for love of the game, he probably just wants the personal fame and glory of achieving such a “rare” statistical feat. He probably rolls his eyes a lot and makes rude gestures during the National Anthem.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Motivation
Because he hates baseball, he does it for the stat heads who can punch it into the spreadsheets they have saved on the computers sitting in their mother’s basements. He doesn’t do it to help win games or anything like that, this much is certain.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
He wishes, just like all of us here do, that baseball only existed in computers. But he was cursed by God with the talent for hitting monstrous homeruns. So now he acts as an agent on the inside. It’s really quite devious.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he should have stuck with football
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by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the dude will never make anything of himself in baseball
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Odds are 50%
Either he does or doesn’t.
Oversimplification for the win.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a Yogi Berra-esque statement, IMO.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
EJ Dome
I Have been away from St Louis for close to 2 decades now. What is wrong with the EJ Dome. How can anything be wrong with it— it is only 15 years old or so.
The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!
by Zubin on Sep 28, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
there isn't really anything wrong with it
it’s kind of dark on the inside and it doesn’t have a retractable roof and it’s increasingly easy for teams to throw temper tantrums about their stadiums.
When the Rams were good it was an awesome place to watch a football game.
by DanUpBaby on Sep 28, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna freak if the city gets conned into 500M for that shitty team
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Sep 28, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No city's taxpayers should pay $500MM for a private franchise's stadium.
What’s more, I wouldn’t be surprised if a tourist tax factored into this funding, which means Cardinals fans would be paying for the new Rams stadium. I find this deplorable.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they will be gone by 2014
When I think the current contract is up. I just don’t see the Rams or Saint Louis ponying up for a new stadium.
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What they ought to do is take a can-opener to that sucker...
Hell, even I’d be inclined to go to a game there if you could get an actual cold-weather, open-air, stadium football experience in it. And it would still be significantly warmer since it’d be closed in on all sides but the top.
Oversimplifying?
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
by TheDuke32 on Sep 28, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
st louis will get it done
they got it done for the cardinals, they’ll get it done for the rams.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know about that...
With Busch III, Kiel Auditorium, this new Northside Development Project (if it goes through), Ballpark Village…St. Louisans may very well reach their tipping points soon in how much their willing to give up to help private developers and companies build new stuff.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
by TheDuke32 on Sep 28, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the football fans in the upper levels will get it done
just like baseball fans in the upper levels got it done for the cardinals and the blues fans in the upper levels got it done for the blues.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need more casinos
the Vegas of the midwest, we shall be!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh...don't get me started.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
by TheDuke32 on Sep 28, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Loose slu...slots, you say?
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Try
the Atlantic City of the north.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Sep 28, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They didn't do too much for the Cards, did they?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't the county use its bonding power?
And, I believe, multiple tax breaks?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
only thing i can find from wikipedia
“The stadium was financed through private bonds, bank loans, a long-term loan from St. Louis County, and money from the team owners”
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
45 million dollar long-term bond from st. louis county
meaning the county probably got a tax break in order to get that money.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just found a nifty new blog,
entitled Field of Schemes, and here is a snippet of a post on the funding for Busch III, which the author says is a “much better deal” than other cities have gotten. You should definitely read the entire post, as it also provides a breakdown of the Cardinals, LLC’s ongoing financial obligations:
The final tally, then, has the costs of the new facility breaking down like so:
$42.7 million in state funds to pay for infrastructure and the demolition an replacement of an interstate ramp;
$3.4 million a year from the elimination of a city ticket tax, which should pay off $42.9 million worth of bonds;
$90 million in cash from the Cardinals;
$200.5 million in private stadium bonds, to be paid off by the team at $15.9 million a year;
a $45 million county loan, to be repaid by the team with interest – though the Cards can instead choose to simply hand over the stadium after 30 years, which they almost certainly will.
So while involving substantial public funds – somewhere between one-quarter and one-third the total construction cost, depending on how you count that loan – the new St. Louis stadium will still involve the second-most private money of any baseball park of the last 30 years, after the San Francisco Giants’ Pacific Bell Park, which was 90% privately funded.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's cool
but what exactly does “hand over the stadium” mean? the county will just own it and do with it whatever it pleases?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
But not “whatever it pleases.” They will likely demolish it and fork over some more money for Busch IV InBev Stadium and the Belgian Village.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but what happens if the cardinals still want to play in it in 30 years?
will it just be county owned and run?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's just it; they won't.
In 30 years, the Cardinals will successfully lobby for a new baseball stadium and get the state, county, and city to help pay for it. (That is, unless the socialist revolution becomes complete and the federal government seizes all private property, instituting a salary cap in MLB to make it more socialist and fair. They the federal government will own Busch III and nullify any contract clause between the Cardinals and the county.)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, that's rather lame
so knowing that, construction will begin on busch stadium IV sometimes around 2033?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be my guess.
The city or county will “donate the land” for Busch IV.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
since when is the life expectancy of a brand new stadium 30 years?
just seems like it would last longer than that.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How long did Busch II last?
It had a renovation after 30 years and then they tore it down for Busch III after about 40, right?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
i believe 1966 was the first year they played in busch II. but wasn’t that stadium supposedly built like crap and one of the last “cookie cutter” stadiums and they just wanted to get rid of it?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mindset
Imagine telling someone in 1966 that the new Busch Stadium II would be the “last of the cookie cutters,” that those stadiums were ugly, that astroturf was a horrible idea, and that we just wanted to get rid of it. That person’s reaction would likely be similar to ours at the notion of tearing down Busch III. But, the same talking points used for Busch II can be used for Busch III in 30 years:
“It was built like crap. It is the last of the cookie cutter retro stadiums. We just want to get rid of it.”
This is a sore spot for me. I loved Busch II, especially after the post-football renovations. I did not, and, to this day, do not, see why we needed a new stadium, in particular, a new stadium so close to the interstate.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough
we’re on the same page here.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The physical building absolutely lasts longer than that.
However, and this is the part that boggles quite a few minds, is this: in looking at a building built for a purpose such as this, one needs to adopt the mindset more of an automobile, only on a grander scale.
You buy an automobile, pay on it for a while, and then, once it’s paid for, it’s essentially making you money, because the money you would be paying for an auto payment is now extra in your pocket. (Of course, it only makes you money if you take said amount and put it aside, a fact sorely lost on most.) All the while you’re driving the car, though, you’re also incurring maintenance costs. Oil changes, tuneup, new clutch, etc.
Now, here’s the tricky part. At some point in the life of that automobile, there is going to be a repair cost incurred that exceeds the value of the automobile. Simple devaluation ensures this will eventually happen. Ten year old car, the transmission blows. You take it to your mechanic, and he says to you, “Well, it’ll cost two grand to fix, but the car’s probably only worth eight hundred bucks.”
At that point, you would literally be paying more than the car is worth to fix it. Now, there’s nothing wrong with doing so; maybe the car has sentimental value as one of your children was conceived (or delivered), in it, or it originally belonged to a family member, or you just really like it. So you put the money into it for reasons other than strictly financial ones.
A stadium works much the same way, though the repair costs almost never actually exceed the value, due to the fact it’s a piece of real estate and all. The rules are slightly different. At some point, though, the costs of maintaining and upgrading a stadium will outstrip the financial value the building itself has. At that point, the organisation can continue to repair it for some reason (see: Wrigley Field), or replace it with a new stadium which, while requiring a large initial investment, repeats the same cycle of profitability and eventual devaluation as the automobile.
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
makes sense
but that’s kind of my point. is it really too much to repair and maintain after just 30 years? seems like it would need some upgrades and such after that amount of time, but it still seems like it would be worthwhile to do so after just 30 years.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After about 30 years,
Busch II was renovated and updated, made into a beautiful baseball-only stadium. Then, the Cardinals began to trash it and eventually got a brand new stadium out of the deal. My point is, how long after the stadium becomes government property will the Cardinals decide a new stadium is necessary?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
and as bgh argues, it will likely be right away. which i just think is silly.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
less about repair/maint.
and more about things like luxury boxes, amenities, etc. That’s the main reason they build new stadiums. Also the idea that a shiny new building will attract more customers.
youneverknow
by floodOfLove on Sep 28, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hope not, the lambs are a fucking joke & i hope they go away asap
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by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was listening to part of the game on the radio in my car the other day
And one of the commentators ( I honestly have no idea who either of them were) made this downright silly remark about watching the play again on that gee-golly absolutely awesome GIANT HD SUPER JUMBO SCREEN. I assume they upgraded it? Their need to pimp out the screen was kind of pathetic.
That said, the only professional football game I have ever been to was a 90’s Rams game in the Dome (it may have still been the TWA Dome back then) and I found nothing wrong with it. The game was the crappy part. The best moment was a very nice punt by the Rams’ punter. Exciting!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes they updated it from that sorry ass old one
but god, watching the rams from 1999-2001 still remains as my favorite childhood memory. there was not a louder, better place to play football during that time.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been to St. Louis, Atlanta & Minnesota
Minnesota was by far the loudest place I’ve ever been
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
by STLRegalia on Sep 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
minnesota? really?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Metrodome gets extremely loud for Iowa vs. Minnesota (back before the Gophers got a new outdoor stadium),
so I bet it gets incredibly loud for the Vikings, when the entire crowd is unified in their rooting interest.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think it's bigger than the EJD
but i would still say the ed was louder in it’s heyday as the twa dome.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Georgia dome was louder, IMO, too
(Bears/Falcons last year)
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
by STLRegalia on Sep 28, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well the geogia dome has got both of 'em by 10K
so that’s understandable.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was there for Bears/Vikings MNF 2 years ago
My ears were ringing
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
by STLRegalia on Sep 28, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when did you go to st. louis?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
99 vs the Niners
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by STLRegalia on Sep 28, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough
though i would argue it was louder in 2000-2001 (including the 1999 playoff games).
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There wasn't a cloud in the sky and it was an insanely comfortable 77 degrees yesterday
and you had to go inside to watch a football game in person.
That’s what is wrong with it.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it were 40 degrees and rainy, it would still be wrong.
I firmly believe that football should be played outside and on natural grass.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
indeed.
signed,
Packers fan
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it were 40 degrees and rainy, it would be the best weather we've ever seen.
signed,
Packers fan
by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looked really nice for that game against the Bengals last Sunday.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Early-season doesn't count.
It’s like going to an HS football game when it’s still light outside. Early season is dismissed except for injury and record.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't like the "Smurf Turf" of Boise St?
That field cracks me up everytime I see it.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I half considered applying there just for the field.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It does have a strange pull to it.
Kinda like that doughnut that you really don’t need.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Mmmm... forbidden donut..."
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Mmmmm, forbidden fish food."
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Misutah Spakurah?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me or does that look like those Guild pilots
from the original Dune movie?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ballchinian, you say?!
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am literally shaking from laughing at that.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeeesh!
:=8.
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love Men in Black
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the Smurf Turf
Real grass is always best, mind you, but if you’re going to have turf, why NOT have it be blue?
by mojowo11 on Sep 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally
I think Clemosn should have an orange field with purple yard lines.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You couldn't follow the game on TV, I wouldn't think.
The Clemson players would blend in.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They'd have to wear their purple uniforms.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You lost me there.
I like their orange uniforms, and I’m from a high school where we wore purple at home, and the UNI Panthers have purple as their primary school color (despite the lamentable creep of black into the football team’s color scheme).
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the orange ones too.
They could wear orange at away games. Or they could wear white.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So? They
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So? They'd be wicked tough to beat.
Camouflage and all. How do you tackle what you can’t see?
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know.
Teams can tackle the green-glad Jets. My guess is that they’d just be hard to see on the tele.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They would be hard to beat.
Our players would be used to the blinding field and stands full of orange, other teams however…
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing really
Many people don’t like the fact that it’s a straight-up dome and that the crowd is kind of tame… To which I retort that when the team was good that place absolutely shook. I don’t think we’re talking about Metrodome/Arrowhead loud, but you really couldn’t hear yourself think after a 65-yard Warner-to-Bruce TD.
It’s not perfect, but it’s a fine facility. The Rams ownership just wants an excuse to bolt.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there were the claims of piped-in noise too...
sneaky, sneaky Rams.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
by TheDuke32 on Sep 28, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like something the Twins would do, to me.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They wouldn't have been the first
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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 28, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
football is the cold weather sport
baseball is the warm weather sport. that’s all I need really. never seen a live football game, other than the Green Machine (my high school team). I dislike college football, and haven’t been able to get into basketball since Jordan retired. hockey is great live but lame on tv… I am pretty sure that football is better on tv than live though.
dang I wish the playoffs would hurry up and start! I’m not sure how fun it will be to follow the team with lineups like yesterday’s one
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i haven't seen one nba games since june of 98 either
i love college football though, but other than dallas i hate the nfl with a passion.
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like Chitown I've always preferred football on TV to live.
Football, despite being berated as some sort of macho caveman exercise, is a pretty complicated sport. I actually played football at school in 7th and 8th grade, and managed football all through high school (there was a sports requirement and that was what I did in the fall trimester. Great way to get on the good side of the coaches) and to this day I can’t tell you what a Red Mad Double Dog Defensive Formation actually is. Or what have you. I really like having the benefit of TV angles and the occasionally insightful commentary by the TV guys to help break things down better.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Worst officials signal?
Tripping…
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so glad referees have microphones.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i get to go ref football this afternoon
i’m going to call more tripping just because of this. thanks.
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
particularly nice
when combined with the ridiculous throwback uniforms they’ve been wearing. I really don’t understand the point of those, by the way. Is there a market for throwback ref unis that I’m not aware of.
by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really makes me want to eat at TGI Fridays...
…Woody’s a tool.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AFL refs wore orange.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Sep 28, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He Looks Like..
….he’s trying to do the River Dance!
:=8/
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Sep 28, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would always rather watch an NFL game on TV as opposed to in person...
I don’t care who is playing. But if you actually like football, went to a college game, and came away wishing you watched on TV…well that’s probably a result of where you were. There is nothing comparable to an electric college football atmosphere in my opinion.
V, b.
by LukeMP1186 on Sep 28, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Unless I'm 50 yard line in awesome seats
I wouldn’t take free tickets to an NFL game. The unpossible number of commercials make it unbearable to sit through.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Sep 28, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chicken McNuggets are infact delicous
and the local f’ng gdm handegg team is not worth mentioning
that is all
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 28, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the rams are awesome.
duh.
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're on the road to 13-3!
Have no fear everybody, it’s all downhill from here.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh
as probably the biggest rams fan on this board, i have to say it’s mighty depressing to watch this team the past three years.
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honest question
I don’t ask this to rub it in, I’m honestly curious because I want to know how bad it really is right now (so I know what to expect for the next few years). Are they the worst team in the NFL? One of the worst? Or just very bad but not absolutely bottom tier bad?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Detroit beating Washington yesterday
I think we our officially the worst team
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hard to say based on just 3 games
but last year the Rams and Detroit were on a different plane of suckitude compared to the rest of the league by football outsider’s DVOA. Until there’s reason to think otherwise, I’d have to agree that we’re now in a class by ourselves.
by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they are definitely in the bottom five
i wouldn’t say they are the worst team (cleveland step on up!), but they are without doubt in the bottom tier right now.
as for improvement, i firmly believe this team bottomed out last year. the new regime took over this year, and many intelligent fans already notice a difference in the way the team plays. the defense has improved, and it’s only a matter of time before spagnuolo and his crew get his guys installed and the rams start winning.
i would expect 3-4 wins next year, 5-8 next year, and then maybe some sort of run in 2011. they desperately need a franchise QB, and i believe they will draft one with their inevitable high pick in the upcoming draft.
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that. is. AWESOME.
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grammar question
Which one is grammatical correct
The problem lays within the box
The problem lies within the box
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
that exact question knocked me out of last year’s National Grammar Rodeo in Calgary
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought it was strange to having our grammar rodeo in Canada...
Andy Williams??!! We’re stopping!!!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would say the second one
that’s what sounds correct at least.
find me under the fan voices section for the st. louis rams
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm voting for "lies"
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
by STLRegalia on Sep 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lays is not a word... "Lays" is an incorrect version of "lay"
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But they do make damn good chips.
/Douh!! Or however that’s spelled.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 28, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mmmmmm
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? Huh.
I’ve just always thought of it as a plural of, well, you know.
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 28, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh heh...
…sexin’.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
“Lay” is a form of “to lie” as in to lie down. It is past tense: She lay down and fell asleep after having an exhausting day. It might also be second person or a command or something? There’s that Dylan song “Lay Lady Lay” after all… I can’t remember if that’s correct grammar though.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes a chicken lays an egg..
but the problem lies within the box
by madridbend on Sep 28, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lies within would be proper
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is what I first thought
Also, In case anyone is wondering the reason I asked. I am making a t-shirt for my dad’s birthday. He think he comes up with all these awesome t-shirt ideas. So I thought I would make him a couple t-shirts for his birthday.
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool Read
I never knew that Musial was once a GM
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another cool link,
off of that story is to this Stan “The Man” Musial LIFE magazine photograph slideshow:
http://www.life.com/image/first/in-gallery/31082/stan-musial-the-man
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And this story about Red is classic:
St. Louis had dropped a tough game to the Braves in 13 innings at Busch Stadium on that significant date, July 22. Schoendienst was frustrated by the defeat and carried his frustration with him to his new home in suburban St. Louis. When Red walked into the house his wife, Mary Eileen, sensed trouble. Red walked out back and decided to mow the lawn, twice pulled the rip cord on the power mower and broke it. He came back inside and lifted the cover off the pot on the kitchen range and challenged her on her method of boiling potatoes to go with the steak that he was about to cook. He went back to the barbecue and put the steaks on, and soon puffs of black smoke circled the neighborhood. A policeman rang the front doorbell and asked if the Schoendiensts were all right and if they were planning just a small fire. “Go out back,” Mary Eileen said, “and ask the manager.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Yadi is 2 GIDP's away from tying the Franchise record.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yearly Progression...
04 – 4
05 – 10
06 – 15
07 – 18
08 – 21
09 – 27 (and counting?)
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's becasue he doesn't hustle.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get off our forums, Al!
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if you GET OFF MY LAWN, RASMUS!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Appropriate Touch
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by The_teague on Sep 28, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to check my $99.99 spreadsheet
but I think he’s the most in debt in adjusted $99.99.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you guys ready to listen to my "Sign Milton" soapbox speech yet?
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Sep 28, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No.
Because the Royals or Padres have heard your arguments, agree with them, have relatively low-key managers, and are apparently ready to trade for Milton.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Royals are interested, I must be wrong.
Sorry.
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Sep 28, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LB started a sign Milton movement here at VEB a few offseasons past.
And I agreed with his logic, which, as per usual, proved correct. However, I just don’t see a Bradley/TLR marriage ended better than the TLR/Steve Kline or TLR/Rolen relationships. It would end quickly and with fireworks. Otherwise, I’d be open to the idea. I don’t blame either the Pads or Royals for being intrigued.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The TLR Rolen relationship sure didn't have much of an impact
We were an awesome team with Rolen and we won the world series in 06. We even got decent value on a trade for Rolen (nobody could have predicted Glaus would be out all season).
by vivaelpujols on Sep 28, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying that we wouldn't have a good club.
I’m saying that the likelihood we would find ourselves in the position we were in with Rolen after ‘07, and that the Cubs find themselves in with Bradley now, is high if TLR is our manager. The gamble might be worth it, depending on what we’re giving up, but I doubt it.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Bradley is one of my favorite players statistically, but he’s a dick and probably has a slight negative effect on the rest of his teammates. If he’s a 2.5 WAR player – .5 “chemistry wins” than he’s only league average. And he will be expensive, unless the Cubs eat a crapload of his salary, and he doesn’t upgrade us in a position of need.
I’d rather stock up F.A.T’s and sign Rich Harden.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 28, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
really Harden?
He seems overvalued to me
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Naw, he'll be undervalued this offseason I think
His ERA and W/L record was squarely average this year; but he pitched a lot better. He’s pretty consistent too, xFIP’s of 3.70 each of the past 3 years. If you get 150 innings of a 3.70 xFIP pitcher, that’s about 3 WAR. He’ll likely get a short term deal for half of that due to his injury history and “average” performance this year.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 28, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i strongly agree with this tack.
Our financial situation and having several reasonable-but-not-stars rotational prospects make getting a fragile starter on a one-year discount appealing – sheets, harden, webb, smoltz, pavano. Obviously not all those guys have same ceiling, but I’d be interested in getting one of the above.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Sep 28, 2009 5:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Put me down for one of those as the scrap off the heap for 2010.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harden's a type A, presumably
do we really want to give the small bears our first rounder (when they’re likely to be looking to rebuild internally)? If we’re going down the higher end of the FA pitcher route, I’d probably rather look at Sheets or Bedard or somebody.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Expect there is a good chance that Sheets or Bedard are done
Or at least won’t be the pitchers that they were before. A first rounder isn’t really a big deal, it’s usually worth only 3-4 million in surplus value with a HUGE bust rate. Plus, we should be getting a couple back with Hollday/DeRosa/Pineiro/Glaus.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 29, 2009 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no moar ex-Athletic pitchers!
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 28, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember that post
This is all very strange. Why would the Royals be interested in Milton Bradley? Don’t they know that one of this chief skills is that he always gets on base?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The author must have confused bradley for jeff francoeur.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Sep 28, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This thread is too happy-
some one start an argument.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Sep 28, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
there's some UNC bashing going on up there somewhere
by brackenthebox on Sep 28, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mofo!
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is not!!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finally!
someone got it.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is probably my all-time favourite Python sketch
absolute genius.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Proclaimers' 'Over and Done With' is far superior to their better known '1000 Miles.' I dare anyone to disagree.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
by TheDuke32 on Sep 28, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha! You're totally wrong!
‘Over and Done With’ is totally a better song than ‘1000 Miles.’ I mean, I could understand disagreeing, that’s cool. Wait, what?…
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this comment
makes me want to haver.
by _pistol_ on Sep 28, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all of your music is boring
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has ClemsonGirl possessed Cards Fan in Chitown??
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey! I use the subject line now to please Spants' dying computer.
And besides I ahve no idea what kind of music hazel listens to.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
unless hazel is of the Sister variety.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
by TheDuke32 on Sep 28, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGU_v_GAdvg
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Sep 28, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is far from boring.
I’ve got scottish in my family!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
would you like a little irish in you?
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BOOM
roast it!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...Roasted...
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is where she was supposed to come back with
“Sure, but not that little”
f’in ClemsonGirl
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was gone!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too far.
f’in gdm.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
someone had to say it
might as well have been someone as harmless as myself
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so that's what a scottish wedding is like!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was born in Scotland.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a Scottish last name
But my actual Scottishness has sort of dwindled through the ancestral line. And the name came from Normandy originally anyway. So I don’t know how cool it really is.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 29, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bobo is a Scottish name?
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 29, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mandolorian
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 29, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
You never brought me my drink
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My shift ended.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have learned in my lifetime
the easiest way to start an argument is to make fun of someone’s music
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find politics an easier route
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
politics doesn't work if you are in a room full of your own side
music however, is a surefire way to rile someone up
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHA LOL!
SoonerTU FAN likes Tony! hahahaha
by vivaelpujols on Sep 28, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mancrush!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was this from the game thread the other day?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got two new books, Which should I read first
or
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Schaeffer looks interesting
but I like Ron Paul too,
Read them simultaneously!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neither.
But I would never read anything by either of those authors.
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by The_teague on Sep 28, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would go out and buy
“The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt” by Edmund Morris. It is, right now, my favorite political biography and I highly recommend it. “The Rise…” is part one of a trilogy Morris has undertaken on Teddy Roosevelt, and the final installment is due out soon, I’ve heard.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Loks pretty good
I like Teddy. I will check it out after I am done with these 2
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 28, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm watching Schaeffer youtube vids now
and I think I’m going to buy his book, or at least check it out.
that’s it for me on the politics
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
best book
I have read in the last 10 years it made me tired thinking about doing half of the things he did
by TomCat009 on Sep 28, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TR is a truly singular American personality.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of like
Michael Collins as one of those guys you wish had held power for a little while longer. Tim Pat Coogan’s bio of Collins is an amazing read as well.
by TomCat009 on Sep 28, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The.best.political.biography.ever...
Is Robert Caro’s Lyndon Johnson, still in progress after three volumes. Rumor has it Caro will not live to finish Vol IV, which makes me very sad.
by alberich on Sep 28, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those are incredibly interesting.
And LBJ is another singular American personality. Perhaps I just like TR better.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
should also check out "the creature from jekyll island"
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by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anything about
ending the Fed piques my curiosity. Read that one.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Sep 28, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT, juvenile
Dusty would like to hang on to Dick Pole
by _pistol_ on Sep 28, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm willing to bet most people that read this clicked on it
yet no one wants to reply to it…
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
by albrtfn on Sep 28, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of ank's curve
i have a hard time remembering things more than a week in the past. so, ank v. waino. whose is nastier. better yet, anyone have gif/video of ank’s curve?
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 28, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ank's curve was a thing of beauty.
I don’t really wanna say it was better that A.D.A.M.‘s, but throwing that to a lefty was every bit as nasty as Johnson’s slider was, IMO.
"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR Passan
by RiverRat on Sep 28, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll say it
Ank’s curve was probably the single greatest pitch I have ever witnessed. This is what makes me so sad that he could not control the FB. Ank was without a doubt a future CY winner.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This gives me a sad.
I’m almost hoping that he struggles a little bit," Jocketty says. "For one thing, I’d rather see him learn from adversity in Triple A than in the big leagues.
I wonder how Ank would have turned out if it would have happened THAT way.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duncan would have fixed him.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That makes me sad too.
It is alluded to in this (probably quite familiar) article that one of his problems was that he never had to face adversity in the minors and just sailed through, blowing everyone away.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That and some dependency issues that he didn't personally address
until his dad got locked up.
But apparently the media wasn’t allowed to cover that part of the story.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dunno
i remember that being the main explanation for his struggles
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 28, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, me too
just not in the mainstream media.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, he had a horrible home life & he's still fighting those demons
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by gdm426 on Sep 28, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i don't remember specifics
shit was ages ago
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 28, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've heard he had some dependency issues as well
but I have nothing to back it up. All I have is hearsay.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he had plenty
of the same issue in AAA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3GnaUBKXtI
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 28, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nvm, this was 2001
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 28, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was fitting Wainer
became the first starter to get double digit k’s in back-to-back starts since Ankiel this weekend.
Ranking Cardinal curveballs this decade:
1. Wainwright
2. Ankiel
3. Kile
4. Morris
5. Carpenter
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wainwright
is always a good #1 for this category, but I don’t remember anyone who possessed a curve as badass as Ank’s. Oh, what could have been.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Sep 28, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know...I should have just said it.
When he did control the fastball, hitters didn’t have a chance. That curve had about 6 feet of break, and when he was able to spot that 95 or 96 mph heater, no one had a chance…lefties or righties.
"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR Passan
by RiverRat on Sep 28, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wanna know why it is impossible to find video of Ank in his pitching days
f’in MLB, f’in Bud
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 28, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am pissed that was the only video of Ank I could find
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hardcore Legend
surely has footage.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Sep 28, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you google
“Voices real and imagined”
You will find an interesting short film, including footage of Ank pitching and taking questions at press conferences, that keeps getting yanked by MLB. It was easy to find until after September 6, 2007, then it started disappearing.
Please don’t link to it directly or I’m sure it will disappear again.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ooops--sorry. I should have said: Google
"Voices real and imagined" ankiel
and it will be the first link that turns up. On present video com, username smelly4food.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just watched it so I know it's still there.
It looks like somebody’s film school project.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looks like VEB already had this conversation in early July 2008:
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just watched it...
…very interesting.
Now…do I get an Ankiel 66 personalized jersey? Seeing as he’ll likely be gone next year??
lol
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It makes me really sad to watch it
…especially that horrible child yelling at him from the stands. If I ever did that at a sporting event my dad would have given me a lecture about sportsmanship. In fact, he did just that when I booed Garry Templeton.
You have three jersey number choices, depending on what era of Ankiel you want. 66 is probably a good choice.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That kid was terrible.
I jostle with the opposing outfielders in FW, but they know I’m playin’ around, nothing serious. Actually had a conversation in the middle of an inning with Brian Van Kirk from Lansing (A-TOR). Good clean fun. He tossed up a ball after he made a putout. lol
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But that's where the difference lies...opposition vs home
I’d NEVER boo a home-player. I know we knock on our player alllll the time (e.g. Duncan, Ankiel, Thurston, et al) but never in my dreams could I rattle their cages at a game. Fully disrespectful.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right--even when I was furious with Welley or Franky this year
I certainly wouldn’t have booed them at a game. Hearing the home fans boo our own players (even if they really suck and are pissing me off) makes me really sad.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Borderline disgusted.
… I’ll rag on a player behind the veil of an IP address…but that’s as far as it’ll go.
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely agree.
I used to never hear St. Louisans boo their players (maybe I just never noticed) but I hear it all the time now and it’s like nails on a chalkboard everytime. Even when Izzy was awful and I hated when they brought him out I could never boo him. He’s playing for my team and so in a way it’slike he’s playing for me. How can I boo him for that?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's gotten worse over the past few years.
I never noticed it before the year Izzy was playing through his hip injury that required surgery (was that 2006?)
I also NEVER saw anyone throw a home run ball back on to the field at Busch Stadium until last year. I actually yelled at those people (but they were too far away to hear me)
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate when people throw HR balls back.
It’s so stupid. I actually don’t mind too much when Cubs fans do it (and I know a lot of people here mind it a lot but my Dad grew up a Cubs fan so I don’t hate the Cubs as much as a lot of people), tradition and all, but any other time it is ridiculous.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't hate the Cubs either.
My feelings toward the Cubs range from mild interest to indifference to pity, and I don’t mean that in an asshole way. When they do well in a year when the Cards are sucking, I think well, good for them. We go to the postseason all the time, and will continue to do so. They hardly ever get to, except for the past few years.
When I was a kid I remember the rivalry being much more friendly.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've always thought it was fairly freindly on the Cardinals side but less so on the Cubs side.
I just hear horror stories of Cards fans at Wrigley and very few of Cubs fans at Busch.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went to a game at Wrigley in August 2008
and wore an Ankiel jersey t-shirt and got harrassed pretty badly by fans. We were in the bleachers, though. After the game (Cards lost, Carp pulled mid-game due to injury), we got harassed less. The door guys outside the bars on the way to the red line had some pretty clever jokes about InBev and were aware that Carpenter had gotten hurt. They knew how to jab, but weren’t unkind.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
by andi_k on Sep 28, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard one of the most awful things
ever said to a child while at Busch Stadium. A Cards fan said it to a Cubs fan and their kids.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Sep 28, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Elaborate?
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 29, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...
…
…which was…?
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
by andi_k on Sep 29, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hee hee.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
by andi_k on Sep 29, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something about abortion.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Sep 29, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not very nice.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
by andi_k on Sep 29, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tossing HR balls back is the #1 lamest thing in baseball fandom
fking Cubs fans.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 29, 2009 5:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember in the 90's maybe 95
There were some scumbag bastards that even booed Ozzie before he retired. I mean,granted he wasn’t nearly as good by then, but you don’t do that to somebody that meant so much for so long.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 29, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like making lists of active players (cheating on Ankiel)
Fastballs:
1. Pedro (96 with life with Maddux command)
2. Billy Wagner back in the day (14.6! K/9 from 97-99)
3. Randy
4. Webb (221 innings per year, 64% groundballs with Ks)
5. Papelbon (Might be a douche but career K/BB of 4.5 is nuts)
Curves:
1. Ankiel
2. Wainwright
3. Zito
4. Lincecum
5. Oswalt
Changeups:
1. Pedro’s Bugs Bunny
2. Hoffman
3. Gagne
4. Santana
5. Lincecum
Sliders:
1. Randy, nuff said
2. Lidge in 04 (157 Ks as a reliever! 87-90 mph slider)
3. Kerry Wood during that 20k game
4. Prime Smoltz (best slider command ever, just pumped that thing for strikes 0-0 0-1 and buried it with 2 strikes)
5. Joe Nathan
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Sep 28, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is kinda cool
fan (long pause)… post material?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Planning on making a new Cards wallpaper...
…any ideas on what anyone wants?
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing specific; more layout.
I like them simple. I don’t like the wallpapers that combine multiple images. But that’s just me. I thought some of the photos that our members have posted have been cool. Maybe they would let you incorporate some of those?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 28, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, I've never been a clutter-guy...
Yo MLBPA, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Albert is the most ridiculous player of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by vexedtechie on Sep 28, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
