Comparing Cards' Champs

Pos	Player	wOBA/FIP	UZR/150	WAR
C	Matheny	.273		0.4
1B	Pujols	.439	3.6	7.9
2B	Womack	.330	4.9	2.8
SS	Renteria	.312	0.4	1.9
3B	Rolen	.421	22.1	8.8
LF	Sanders	.341	10.3	2.2
CF	Edmonds	.436	1.3	8.1
RF	Walker	.432	0.7	3.2
SP1	Carp	3.85		3.2
SP2	Morris	4.93		1.1
SP3	Williams	4.10		2.7
SP4	Suppan	4.77		1.3
SP5	Marquis	4.55		1.9
MR	Kline	3.68		0.5
SU	Tavarez	2.92		1.3
CL	Izzy	3.02		1.1
Total WAR				48.4

Pos	Player	wOBA/FIP	UZR/150	WAR
C	Molina	.282		0.9
1B	Pujols	.436	1.0	7.7
2B	Grudz	.321	9.9	3.0
SS	Eckstein	.335	-3.6	3.4
3B	Rolen	.308	21.7	1.5
LF	Sanders	.384	-5.5	2.1
CF	Edmonds	.386	9.7	5.9
RF	Walker	.382	-12.2	2.0
SP1	Carp	2.90		6.8
SP2	Morris	3.99		2.7
SP3	Mulder	4.30		2.2
SP4	Suppan	4.53		1.5
SP5	Marquis	4.95		0.7
MR	Reyes	3.12		1.1
SU	Tavarez	4.01		0.3
CL	Izzy	3.60		0.7
Total WAR				42.5

Pos	Player	wOBA/FIP	UZR/150	WAR
C	Molina	.261		-0.2
1B	Pujols	.448	4.5	7.7
2B	Belliard	.313	-0.8	1.3
SS	Eckstein	.310	-0.6	1.5
3B	Rolen	.373	14.4	5.6
LF	Duncan	.399	-7.5	2.0
CF	Edmonds	.350	7.6	2.6
RF	Encarnacion	.320	7.1	1.1
SP1	Carp	3.44		5.2
SP2	Suppan	4.70		1.7
SP3	Weaver	5.47		0.5
SP4	Mulder	6.01		-0.4
SP5	Marquis	5.90		-0.6
MR	Looper	3.46		1.0
SU	Wainwright	3.31		1.1
CL	Izzy	5.70		-1.0
Total WAR				29.1

Pos	Player	wOBA/FIP	UZR/150	WAR
C	Molina	.331		2.9
1B	Pujols	.460	0.8	8.2
2B	Skip	.335	-6.9	1.0
SS	Ryan	.317	14.4	3.0
3B	DeRosa	.330	-6.8	1.6
LF	Holliday	.391	2.1	5.0
CF	Rasmus	.320	14.0	2.6
RF	Ludwick	.341	1.0	1.9
SP1	Carp	2.75		5.1
SP2	Wainwright	3.25		4.9
SP3	Pineiro	3.02		5.0
SP4	Lohse	4.57		0.7
SP5	Wellemeyer	5.26		-0.1
MR	Miller	3.48		0.4
SU	McClellan	4.18		0.1
CL	Franklin	3.27		0.9
Total WAR				43.2

I can't help but notice

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by AWolfAtTheDoor on Sep 17, 2009 12:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Well that failed.

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by AWolfAtTheDoor on Sep 17, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You did better than I would.

I’ve got a helluva pic for azru and haven’t had any luck getting it on here.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think you were trying to do

this

but, this thing may be getting old already

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 17, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No. Never. That was awesome.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that will never not be funny

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ironically

the one website that doesn’t seem to work very well with is Taylor Swift’s….

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 5:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it is old

since i did that yesterday

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, thats what I meant

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 17, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry Flim I saw it for the first time right before I posted it and I lol'd and lol'd

Some guy claimed he did it and just posted it. Sorry if it seemed like I was trying to steal a joke.

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by AWolfAtTheDoor on Sep 18, 2009 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

back in days of yore...

“It’s not always the best team, the best pitching staff or the best offense that wins the World Series,” said Edmonds, “but the best team playing in October. That was us. We finally got healthy for the first time since April. We got our confidence once we made the playoffs. And look what happened.”

“We were bad at the end of the season, there isn’t any doubt about it,” Rolen said. “A lot of people said we backed into the playoffs, and I have no resentment to that. But we didn’t have to prove anything to anybody. We barely made the playoffs, and we turned around and played as good baseball as we could play, and ended up being the world champions.”

“A couple years ago,” Edmonds said, “we were just excited to get in the World Series. And I think from the first pitch of the first game of the playoffs [this year], we started talking about being focused long enough to get through this situation and not get a little out of control every time we won a series. After the National League Championship Series, I was really impressed with how everybody handled the situation and gathered it up and got it under control quickly.”

I still can’t find Scotty’s quote about how 2004 was the best team he’d played in, but that’s what I was goin’ for.

Past is past. There is only luggage now.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 12:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What's sad..

is you know Scotty wishes he was still with the Cards with another chance to play in October. Knowning the player he is…he is really missing the success that he had as a teammate with the Cardinals and had not been on a winning team since. It’s a shame he and Tony couldn’t bury the hachet and move on.

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Sep 17, 2009 4:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i'm more concerned about the curse he laid on third base.

they say at night you can still hear the base calling for him… and from then on, no one held down the hot corner without injury or inexplicable errors…

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

damn, Hollywood & Scotty really were beasts in 04&05

and it’s ridonkulous how consistently ridiculous Albert has been

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 12:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

That MV3 was RIDICULOUS.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 17, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice job laying that out for us chuckb.

The 04 and 05 teams were things of beauty, but the 06 team was a thing of beauty at the right time. And it doesn’t hurt that the Tigers pitching staff picked the wrong time to come apart.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 12:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

or to fail at throwing to first or third. Again. And again. And again. Hillariously.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 5:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh, Brandon Inge.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well I hated to pick on all their failings,

just cuz I try to have a heart and that a Tigers fan might accidentally read this. No sense pouring salt in an old wound, although that never gets old with doing it to Cubs fans.

/closet sadist

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

had to click on this article...

http://www.baseballdailydigest.com/blogs/2009/09/16/skip-schumaker-and-the-great-deodorant/

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 2:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

interesting overview of our season.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

once again, the Cards get no respect. no respect at all

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Most of it screamed: Cubs fan wrote this

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Sep 17, 2009 4:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, Cubs fan def wrote this

But I don’t think he was being a homer (except the Cubs “inexplicably slipped” part).

He makes a VALID and IMPORTANT point about being results oriented, however, he uses poor cause/effect skills to make that point. I think there are way to many variables to consider that moving Skip to 2nd was a incorrect move.

LaRussa was probably counting on a lot of things to keep him there…ex. Dick and Dunk’s “inexplicably slip”. Did Skip lose value from being a 3rd/4th OF to starting 2B? Probably. Did it make the team lose value? Doubtful.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Sep 17, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Skip to 2B was a valuable move

They knew he would suck at first but he has already exceeded my goals. I honestly believed at the end of the season he would be a negative 25 runs on defense. He is going to be our 2B next year also.

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ya i don't mind the move at all

the authors point was he has a good chance at being less valuable as a PLAYER to be at 2B (the OP even brings up sample size and it’s possible he may not be that bad), however my point is he is prolly more valuable to the TEAM at 2B than at OF.

I just don’t like the OP’s theory this would cause the card’s 1st place in any other year but this year.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Sep 17, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And yet

he’ll make himself a lot more money as a 2B.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

indeed

He is WAY more valuable as a 2B than a LFer.

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's more valuable as a 2B because the opportunity cost of him playing LF is so high.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 17, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The only slightly disappointing thing about Schu>2B

is that he’s been a bit below-par with the bat. I think he’s been more or less all we could’ve expected with the glove. With a RHB to platoon with the couple of days a week we face LHP, I feel like we’ve more or got league-average production out of 2B, which is all we could’ve hoped. I just wish he’d turned into the 10+HR guy he looked like he might become.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well he devoted all of his time to improving his defense

one of the articles implied that his goal during the off-season was to improve his batting, then he got the call.

he seems to be getting back to his old self lately, though.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Didn't he get the call a few weeks before spring training?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 17, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lugo?

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 17, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cubs fans here in Chicago

have a healthy amount of fear and respect for the Cardinals. Like in Mallrats when Brody wishes that a child playing on an escalator will learn his lesson – Cubs fans have learned theirs.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I take great issue with this stupid comment

The NL Central of ‘09 is nothing like the NL Central of last year. The Cubs inexplicably slipped,

It’s hardly “inexplicable” – the Cubs failed to keep all 9 starting position players and all 5 starting pitchers fit for 85%+ of the season (that level of “lack of injury” only comes around once in a blue moon), and they traded away some of their good players for bad players at the start of the season. And they’re all one year older and one year more banged up. I thought they’d win 90 this year but, realistically, they were never going to sniff 100 again without another insanely lucky season.

Still, other than that, it’s a pretty reasonable article, IMO.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 5:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ghostwriter: Derrek Lee's mom

obviously.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

she uses deodorant

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Soriano's performance alone resulted in a 4 win swing.

Aramis has been less than half as valuable thanks to injury. The swing from Derosa to Bradley is 2.5 wins. These were more than enough to overshadow nice work from Wells, a really good season from Lee, and decent pitching otherwise.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 17, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

don't forget Wood to Gregg

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Sep 17, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or Marmol to Marmol

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 17, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it also cost Ceda

who is their version of Perez (or maybe Todd) to add Gregg…

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

maybe more like

Soria in KC

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i seriously doubt Ceda will turn into Soria

Soria is like one of the top 3 or 4 relief pitchers in baseball…

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he's a beast

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Sep 18, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I really don't give him much credit

When he thought that Skip was going to be a quick study…

I’m not sure I saw anyone that would think that, but he does make a good point that the NL Central is downright awful. It’s not as bad as the AL Central or anything, but still, major disappointments all around.

"Thunder is good, thunder is impressive; but it is lightning that does all the work"
-Mark Twain

by Taskmaster on Sep 17, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and the horizon

doesn’t look all that promising for the Astros or Pirates in the near term. I’m not sure what to make about the Red’s outlook for 2010-2011 either.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think the Astros are one or two seasons away from being the worst team in baseball.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

prob right

- the carlos lee contract will be an albatross (if it isn’t already)
- fat elvis will get fatter
- oswalt is aging and they’re talking about trading him off
- the farm system is completely bereft of talent
- everyone else is in a decline phase except for maybe hunter pence

yikes.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Instead of trading for Tejada, Wolf, Hawkins, etc.

they should have shipped Oswalt and Elvis off for specs and peak value and they could be like a further along and better version of the Pirates right now.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 17, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

oswalt is just hemmorrhaging value right now. they just shut him down for

the season.

ps cecil, you still going to win 100 games this year?

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 17, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

don't get me wrong

I’m not complaining. At. All.

Let them suck.

This isn’t like college football or basketball when you need a strong strength of schedule.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

also, the ownership is talking about trimming payroll now that they’re falling out of perennial contention. I think this year might’ve been their last shot at taking a pop at the division. If they cut the personnel budget by $10-20m next year, they’ll be putting a lot of replacement-level talent out there.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the fact that Skip was so bad defensively....

earlier in the year should be accorded no weight in assessing the value of the decision now. As of today, and heading into the playoffs, we have the 2baseman Skip currently is, not what he was in April and May.

If we weren’t going to playoffs and the Skip decision played a part, then this analysis would be worth something. One day perhaps people can better incorporate “analysis” with the ability to do math.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 17, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

God what a shitty article

by vivaelpujols on Sep 17, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Makes it sound llike the Crads backed in to this season...

But they didn’t… The Greene move didn’t pay off and we might have gotten lucky with Boog and Pinero, but the other moves were sucess by design mostly.

The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!

by Zubin on Sep 17, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dunno even if Boog & Pin were lucky

one was a player with a good work ethic working hard enough to be a borderline-major-league hitter when we always knew his defence was good enough to be a high-end MIFer, and the other was a guy who learnt a new pitch, bought into the organisational pitching philosophy 100%, and reaped the rewards. They’re both internal products, more or less, and examples of the organisation doing a good job of sticking with (and helping improve) the talent on its own books.

An analogous situation might’ve been the Cubs holding onto Jose Ceda and working to turn him into the production they’ve got from Kevin Gregg this year, without spending the money or wasting the cheap years. They’ve often gone for external solutions and executed poorly, whilst we’ve often gone for internal ones that’ve worked out quite well.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 18, 2009 4:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The 04 Cards were a hell of a team

I still think if the Yankees could have beat the damn Red Sox in the ALCS…..we would have won the Championship. It still pisses me off when I think about it.

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Sep 17, 2009 2:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Try living with a devout Red Saux fan.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have. Didn't work out.

Guess I showed enjoyed too much watching Tony LaRussa’s A’s sweep the ACLS the second time.

by random on Sep 17, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

GOB-tempting, but hilarious

http://blogcritics.org/sports/article/getting-the-house-in-order/
ex. “Outfielder Colby Rasmus is going to paint the wall he stares at for eight hours straight”

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 2:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

the two best

Catcher Yadier Molina is going to practice throwing out base stealers by throwing baseballs at rabbits in his backyard.

Third baseman Mark DeRosa will deep fry all would be base stealers.

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The one about Lego was great too

I want the Walrus back...

by Paulspike on Sep 17, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

After DeRosa fries them...

does he give them to Dennys Reyes to snack on?

by Mr. Wilson on Sep 17, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sure, they just got swept by the Braves, the only team on the remaining schedule that can be called “descent,”

I would probably prefer it if our remaining schedule was nothing but “ascent”. It would kinda suck to miss out on the playoffs now.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 5:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

also - blogging tip

if you’re going to make facile spelling errors, probably best not draw attention to them with quotation marks…

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 5:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Descent was awesome!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also, the author says we look down from our "lofty tour" and I'm not sure what that means.

I’ve heard of towers being lofty however.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It was actually pretty funny though.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Boog: Vampire Shortstop

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Sep 17, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

one time he was on the DL because someone started him on The Song That Never Ends

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Boog has shown marked improvement

ever sense he went to Tony and sang:

Tony… for one time
would you let me be myself
so I can shine
in my own life
tra la la la
let me be myself

by ridgesee on Sep 17, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

by cardsgirl95 on Sep 17, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Middle Infield

so easy Skip Schumaker can do it.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

[watches wives and girlfriends go after mattybobo]

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

this is a pretty good at-a-glance comparison, chuck

but it’s probably a bit unfair in a couple of ways – it seems unreasonable to give Holliday 5 WAR this year when 3 of them came in Oakland (and the left fielders in his stead were basically replacement-level), and it also seems slight cherry-picking to only include 9 position players (in 2006 Speez was nearly a 2-win player, IIRC), 5 starters (this year Boggs and Smoltz have added more than 1 win between them) and only 3 relievers. Maybe just cataolguing the team’s “total WAR” each year from FanGraphs would be a better way to look at it.

Still, it’s pretty cool that our current lineup could end up with a WAR total similar to 2004. Viva!

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 5:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I used

basically only the starters and the full-season totals for the additions to get a sense of how good the players who were playing were at the end of the season, not how productive they had been for the team all year. How good does this year’s team, right now, stack up w/ the ‘04, ’05, and ’06 teams. Counting Holliday as a 2 win player understates how good he is, though it’s an accurate measure of how much he’s contributed to this year’s team. It’s also perhaps misleading to count Izzy as the ‘06 closer since he didn’t close for the team in the playoffs, or counting Mulder as part of that rotation instead of Reyes. Reyes, btw, had more IP for the Cards that year than Weaver but fewer than Mulder…barely. It’s not meant to be a perfect measure, just a prompt for discussion.

by chuckb on Sep 17, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think it also serves

as an astute reminder about just how good those ’04 and ’05 teams were. no matter how you splice it.

also, Rolen’s defensive numbers are just mind boggling.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rolen is/was frickin' awesome

woulda been a clear HOFer if not for the injuries, methinks.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So very true, F_M

by cardsgirl95 on Sep 17, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

damn

Hee Seop Choi

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also true.

by cardsgirl95 on Sep 17, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But it started with

Alex Cintron, right?

by saladdays on Sep 17, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

did it?

don’t remember.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

2001 NLDS

I think?

by saladdays on Sep 17, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cintron was 2nd

hee Seop was 1st.

by chuckb on Sep 17, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

either way

there was clearly more to it than just injury unfortunately. i just get the impression that Rolen’s a tough guy to keep happy.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cintron [hisssss] was first, in 2002 NLDS, Game 2

Choi was on 5/10/05 vs LAN.

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by Solanus on Sep 17, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is my personal cause

It was not Hee Seop Choi who caused Scott Rolen’s injury, it was Scott Erickson’s inability to throw the ball accurately to 1st base from FIFTEEN FEET AWAY. He had an effin 6 ERA why was he even in the big leagues.

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by joker24 on Sep 17, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think he can possibly put himself into the "arguable/fringe" category by the time he calls it quits.

Not to lean too much on WAR for evaluating everything, but it’s a nice snapshot; baseballprojection has him at close to 60 WAR already. If he can maintain his current groove for a couple more years, put together some 3-4 WAR seasons, then who knows.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

his main problem is that a huge chunk of his value is defence

his hitting stats aren’t really going to cry out “HOF”, even if he does have some sort of resurgence. Of course, the fact that (like Edmonds) he’s RECOGNISED by the wider dumbass baseball public as a great defender (with all those GGs) might help him, but I still don’t see him making it, sadly.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ugh, we are 18-16 against the NL east this season

and 6 of the wins came against the nats…we hve not had a lot of success against those teams thus far

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 17, 2009 9:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Not predictive.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 17, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Weren't a lot of those games pre-Holliday?

The last Philly series we sent out Lohse and Welley after Pinero shut them down.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Weren't we around 11-1 against the AL in 2004?

by bailorg on Sep 17, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and good lord

albert pujols is ridiculous this season…even by his standards

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by VolsnCards5 on Sep 17, 2009 9:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow

04 Had some serious sluggers out there. Mix 04 Lineup with 09 pitching and we have one of the greatest Cardinal teams of all time.

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 9:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Lemme fix that for you

Mix 04 Lineup with 09 pitching and we have one of the greatest ~~Cardinal~~ teams [period] of all time.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 17, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

OT: How to defeat the humans in an invasion

So True

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 9:48 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs

I would be devestated

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by azruavatar on Sep 17, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and non-functional

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by azruavatar on Sep 17, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

As a a college student who just pulled an almost all nighter this is a terrifying thought.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

In my day we used to just take ritalin

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not going to lie...this is true.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 17, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

dude

the old version of that stuff could mess you up pretty good if you weren’t careful

by Jhusk on Sep 17, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ritalin is from the stone age

It’s adderall now.

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by joker24 on Sep 17, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i always thought they were about the same

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think they are

I’ve never been into that because #1 it’s about the worst thing you can do to your body outside of like heroin or staging a knife fight between your left and right hands, or eating McDonalds and #2 addy strangely does almost nothing for me anyway; I took a nap after a couple hours.

But it’s readily available for anyone who wants to whine to their doctor about how they can’t focus on things that bore everyone. Or off of someone who previously did that despite its status as being (technical term) “really illegal”.

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by joker24 on Sep 17, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm proud to be coffee-abstinent

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 17, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you disgust me.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just don't understand how some people "can't function without coffee"

I can drink a cold glass of water in the morning and it wakes me up fine.

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 17, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Apples are supposed to actually work faster than coffee.

I wouldn’t know because I drink coffee every day.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

righhht.

the water washes down the greenies.

wonderful century of failure

by _pistol_ on Sep 17, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I could punch myself in the nuts to wake up everyday

but coffee is much more enjoyable.

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by azruavatar on Sep 17, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

i need coffee in the morning but also mid day

At around 3 to 4 I become so tired. Like about to fall asleep in 10 seconds if I close my eyes

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This explains

the relative lack of off topic posts late in the afternoon…LOL.

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by fourstick on Sep 17, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

More enjoyable than a nut shot, for sure

But I just don’t like the taste of coffee

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 17, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wonder if anybody immediately enjoys it or if it needs to be acquired

I remember not liking the taste for a while but I ended up liking it combined with other flavors. I enjoyed coffee ice cream and candy, and mocha. I still don’t drink black coffee, although sometimes I drink espresso without sweetening it, just for kicks.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've always liked

coffee, even as a kid. I’d sip my mom’s shitty international cafe powdered milk/coffee shit. I loved it. Of course, my tastes are a little more refined now.

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by spants on Sep 17, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you may add extra black to my coffee...

by Big Rev on Sep 17, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t either. So I get the coffee with stuff in it. I don’t drink real coffee.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's not coffee

it’s sugar milk.

Coffee is best sampled black and unadulterated.

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by azruavatar on Sep 17, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But it does have enough caffeine to get me through about three hours, whereas the Cherry Pepsi I have in my room gets me through like one. I’m to the point now I’m going to need an energy drink or something to get me through the rest of the day.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Are you talking about lattes?

Because they have less caffeine than regular coffee or soda. Still, I love lattes.

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by spants on Sep 17, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No. I don’t usually get lattes.

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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What do you put in it that makes it not real then?

Coffee with milk and sugar still has a whole lotta caffeine. :)

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by spants on Sep 17, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Milk and sugar and chocolate.

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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If that's in your drip coffee,

you’re getting a ton of caffeine. Tip: lighter roasts have more caffeine than darker roasts. No one thinks this is true, but it is. If that’s with espresso, that’s a latte, or a mocha b/c of the chocolate. Still has caffeine, but not nearly as much as coffee.

My personal favorite is solo-shot latte, iced. I just need a little bump sometimes. When I worked as a barista, I was so addicted I would shake when I crashed. It was awful.

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by spants on Sep 17, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yikes!

that’s when it’s time for a major caffeine holliday.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

my drink of choice at Starbucks is either a

Venti 8 pump Mocha Frap or Venti 8 pump Caffe mocha

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That is insane.

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 17, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no one has every accused me of being sane

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That depends on the coffee...

If it’s total swill (I’m looking at you Folgers) a little steamed milk helps to mask the horrible flavor. But you’re probably better off not drinking it at all — get a Red Bull or something.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Sep 17, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Red Bull is another favorite of mine

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by azruavatar on Sep 17, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

have you tried the 5 hour energy?

surprisingly effective.

also, i hear getting enough sleep also works. not that i’d know.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I built a tolerance to 5-hour energy really, really fast

Like used it 3 times and I felt nothing after drinking one of them.

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by joker24 on Sep 17, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I actually like the taste of RedBull

It’s probably my casual beverage of choice but again it’s stupid expensive so I don’t buy it that often.

I’ve not had the 5-hour energy before. I’m rarely that hard up for sleep (I usually get 5-6 hours) so I just need a little extra help.

In other news, my liver/kidneys are going to be shot in about 5 years from all this shit.

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by azruavatar on Sep 17, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Vodka ruined the taste of Red Bull for me

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 17, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jager

I honestly have never had a Red Bull that wasn’t mixed with Jager

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by jd is legend on Sep 17, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

gross

tastes like cough syrup

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i love red bull

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

True That

If you can drink black coffee you can drink it any where. But I personally drink Americano’s.

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Espresso, made properly, is fantastic

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Sep 17, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

if ever in Branson, MO go to Dino's 24 Karat Cafe..

best espresso i ever had— maybe tied with me accidentally buying the $25 single shot at Emerill’s but also one at Dino’s is not $25.

by ADMDrayson on Sep 17, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i just bought an espresso machine instead

But a great way to get a cheap good cup of coffee is the AeroPress

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that should be green damnit

without coffee, GDM does not exist

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually azru

punching you in the nuts every day sounds like a pretty good way to wake up….

Ba-ZING…

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

or, indeed

CLANG.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

1) I’m addicted
2) I like the taste (probably related to 1)

Ergo:
3) I’m not interested in becoming unaddicted.

The damned coffee industrial complex has me for life. Bastards.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Sep 17, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You know...coffee comes from Colombia --- FARC terrorists control Rural

colombian land…buy coffee support terrorism.

Well Damn! I guess I am going to be sent to Gitmo or rendered somewhere.

by ADMDrayson on Sep 17, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

we really should do something about farc

NO POLITICS OR WAR TALK JACKASS

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And if you get Kenyan coffee?

Or Hawaiian? Or Indonesian?

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by spants on Sep 17, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

somehow I doubt COFFEE is the addictive cash crop of concern in Colombia.

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by tom s. on Sep 17, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Um

Buy Free Trade coffee = No worries about supporting terrorism.

Somehow I doubt that FARC uses coffee as the stimulant of choice to finance their operations.

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by fourstick on Sep 17, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know I’m weird but I hate water.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

huh?

“hate”? really?

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It tastes gross.

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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that is just crazy

crazy

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

tastes?

I think you’re doing it wrong.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

I don’t buy that water doesn’t taste like anything. It obviously does because I have a string aversion to it’s taste.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do you like watermelon or cucumbers?

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes. But those don’t taste like water. Maybe it’s because they have texture. I don’t know.

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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you are like that little girl in signs

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's contaminated

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by Solanus on Sep 17, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think that would depend on the type of water.

There are places that I can’t stand their water.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is true

Growing up in St. Louis I thought all water tasted great. So not true. Living in a city with bad or just OK-tasting water is surprisingly hard to get used to.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

St. Louis supposedly has the best water in the country.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's fantastic.

Tastes like nothing.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I find that most tap water

tastes like I’m sucking on some coins from a hobo’s pocket.

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by azruavatar on Sep 17, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If that's how you keep from popping positive on a breathalyzer,

More power to you.

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by Solanus on Sep 17, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i agree 100%

i’ve been all over the great country of ours, and the STL has the best tasting water. period.

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

"I don't always drink water... but when I do..."

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How do you feel about Earth, Wind, and Fire?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs

Rec

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 17, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that reminded me of

battle beasts for some reason.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Sep 17, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ohmygoodness

Battle Beasts are one of those childhood things where sometimes I wonder if I only imagined they existed since nobody else seems to have heard of it. I felt this way about the cartoon “Centurions” for a while too.
I just find this site about Battle Beasts. Notalgically awesome.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Centurions used to be on Cartoon Network at 3 AM or so weeknights in 1997.

That was what I did instead of studying for my 8:40 AM research methods class. I would just stay up all night watching cartoons, go to my early morning class, and CRASH. Unless, of course, I had to go to one of my three jobs.

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by andi_k on Sep 18, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Awesome

I mean, except for the lack of sleep part.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 18, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Our running joke about Centurions was that the transformation sequence took up nearly half of the show

So nothing ever really happened.

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by andi_k on Sep 18, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I should own up to being a big Centurions fan back in the late 80s....

i think I even had two of the action figures (which were actually pretty well put-together for a tie/cartoon tie-in).

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 18, 2009 4:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You know Felonius, they really were

I was born in 1984 so I wasn’t actually old enough to see it when it was on TV. Even if I did I wouldn’t have understood anything, probably. But I did watch it on tape and I believe we had a couple toys for it. My favorite was aquatic operations specialist Max Ray. Look at the guy, he’s the coolest:

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 18, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

must be a SC thing?

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I grew up in St. Louis. I still live there in the summers. I will say tap water there tastes better than it does here.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

i grew up in the StL and never thought twice about bottled water. Then went to college in Tucson and everyone had a water jug in their house or only drank bottled water.

it’s pretty much the same in Chicago. still…i love me some water.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I went through that phase when I was 15.

I don’t know why, but water was just gross. Now it’s pretty much all I drink. It’s strange how taste buds change.

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 17, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i used to drink about a 6 pack of mt dew or dr pepper every day

now i’ve replaced that with water

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

My first year of college I gained a ton of weight just from drinking Dr. Pepper all the time

Changed it to water, stopped gaining weight

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 17, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i rarely drink any pop/soda now

and i’m still fat. f’in metabolism

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I really should drink water. But I just can’t. I can do flavored waters but I think that defeats the purpose.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You should drink Vitamin Water

Cause 50 Cent owns it and he is cool

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

VH20 is the awesome

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Coca Cola owns it.

50 Cent has a flavor.

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 17, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he is actually a lot smarter than I thought

I saw an interview of him the other day and came off impressed

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

50's no Kayne that's for damn sure

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's not a dumb athlete.

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 17, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd be shocked if he was "dumb"

Intelligence is expressed in application.

He is considered one of the “best” hip hop artists…to be that good you can’t exactly be “dumb”. Just because his subject matter is bitches and ho’s doesn’t mean he’s “dumber” than someone pre-law.

I still hate hip hop though.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Sep 17, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The guys who end up basically with their own record labels are obviously business smart

But for example TI is unquestionably dumb though. Dude worth 50-80 million goes himself to buy a machine gun in a Walgreen’s parking lot? #1 why is he buying a machine gun illegally #2 why doesn’t he send some of his people to do it?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 17, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Diet drinks

don’t have sugar to make you fat

by saladdays on Sep 17, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

most artificial sweeteners mess with your metabolism, though.

diet drinks tend to make you fatter, not skinnier.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 17, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Add more J&Bs

by cyclone on Sep 18, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I grew up on a farm with well water

I actually used to like the taste of iron in the water. Now I don’t mind regular water, but I’d much rather drink it filtered. I drink a lot of home-brewed flavored iced tea. Plus probably more than my share of soda.

No alcohol, no coffee, no drugs, though.

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Sep 17, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Additionally, coffee is not for me

I can’t stand the smell of it. Plus it didn’t help that my first and only real experience with the stuff was in the Navy, onboard a submarine. We had this awful generic stuff (simple metal can, we called it “Silver Can”) and the taste of it was horrible.

“Coffee makes me a mite nervous” – Carl, Sling Blade

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Sep 17, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You were in the Navy

and you don’t drink?

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I couldn't afford my addiction (mostly joking)

Mr. Hyde is an image that comes to mind when considering mixing me with alcohol, so I just leave it alone.

Which is too bad, because I can see myself really getting into microbrews and such.

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Sep 17, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I want to get to know more about good tequillas

but can’t afford to.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no joke

I heard quality tequila is like fine scotch. Even when I am done in Mexico they cost a shit load

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

I buy one or two bottles down there every year that cost ~$50 there but would be ~$100 here. Stuff is incredible, though.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

very true, tequila is not meant as a shot or a mixed drink

silly American’s though couldn’t take it, so it has become the popular liquor shot or mixed drink. really good tequila is meant as a sipping liquor much like a good scotch.

scotchy scotchy scotchy scotchy. i love scotch.

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I find this all fascinating and will have to be on the lookout for sipping tequila now.

My wife loves tequila and used to drink it straight or with ice back in college. I’ll bet she’d be interested in trying some quality stuff…
I also discovered pisco recently which is fun.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Patron

by dcfcblues on Sep 17, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

is overrated, there are much better tequilas

Don Julio comes to mind….

by FunkeeC on Sep 17, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

not keen on pisco

the only “shit from grapes that’s not good enough to go in wine” booze I ever occasionally drink is grappa, mainly because Ernest Hemingway used to like it and he’s a dude.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like grappa a lot

I think pisco is pretty similar. I’m not sure about the differences in how they’re made but I think it’s basically the same process.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh I don't especially like it

I just drink it now and again because I’m a pseudo-intellectual asshole.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 18, 2009 4:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

The pure blue agava tequila is supposed to be just that way. I would love to try some but I’ve had enough of the bad stuff, it will probably taint my veiw anyway.

/stupid youth

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yummmm

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

taint...

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

and this one comment confirms my views about Fritz

also, share the name of the damn sipping tequila already !

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

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by mattyfrommo on Sep 17, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry

but you have to haggle with Mexican street vendors to find out.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

sounds like a fun way to spend a weekend

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

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by mattyfrommo on Sep 17, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's a regular tuesday for fritz

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

just dont ask how much he pays for donkey show tix

by FunkeeC on Sep 17, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They're comped.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eat the worm!!!

/college in Texas

Carp Love (NSFW)

by thepainguy on Sep 17, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1 to the farm well water with iron in it.

I still live on said farm and I am so glad they finally ran the water line in our area. I do not miss drinking a glass of water and feeling like I just licked an a piece of steel.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's the (never-again-to-be) white clothes

And the big iron stain under the faucet in the tub that I hated. You could actually see the stuff float around in your glass.

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Sep 17, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ah yes... the non-white whites.

My parents moved out here 50 yrs ago last month. When they got here, there was no running water in the house and a cistern outside for water with a pitcher pump in the house. So they drilled a well and ran water in the house.

Mom had grown up elsewhere and moved here, and evidently never dealt with iron-laden water before. The first time she washed a load of whites and used hot water the whole load turned orange…she just sat down and cried.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

we have a well now, and it's awful

but my grandparent’s farm well is awesome. it’s one of those wells like the fuji bottled water comes from. it’s great.

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How deep is it?

The deeper it is the better the water. That and it depends on the soil type in the area.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i have no idea,

the farm is in SE Mizzou right at the beginning of the mark twain nation forest

in the late 90’s before everything went to hell in a hand basket, my dad was looking into bottling it & selling it because there’s more than one of those type of wells on the property. and he thought if fuji water was selling for $2 bucks a bottle they should easily get $1 for the same type of water.

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If it's down there

I would say that the wells are damned deep. That would help it immensely.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

they are Artesian wells

thank you google, that’s been bugging me for over an hour. ever heard of Big Springs in Van Buren on the Current River? they are in the same area. good, good water.

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

move back to Mo, sell bottled water, aquire capital to open VEB bar

the best part is it will get you out of Ohio

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

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by mattyfrommo on Sep 17, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

PROFIT!!!!

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

rec'd

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How are you not dead yet?

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 17, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m sure I get enough water from other stuff. I just don’t like it alone.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i don't like to be alone either

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

smooth, gdm, smooth.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 17, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

He’s a crafty on he is.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

if he was a lefty too I'd be worried...

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 18, 2009 4:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sometimes I don’t know how to respond to you.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

just smile, nod & say f'in gdm like everyone else

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mace? Taser? Kick to the groin?

Carp Love (NSFW)

by thepainguy on Sep 17, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

all good options too

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tazer to the groin ftw...

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 18, 2009 4:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

never could drink the stuff myself

I make do with really strong tea.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Green tea here,

but no coffee.

by cardsgirl95 on Sep 17, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep, green tea works too.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

not as strong though

but much more enjoyable.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

green tea = awesome

if it has other shit in it (arizona has one with plum, or pomegranate)

My personal choice is well over 150oz of Diet Coke :-)

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Sep 17, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

150oz? ugh. Cherry Coke Zero

is now one of my new faves.

Also, straight, real, fresh green tea is sincerely amazing.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just the thought of 150oz of Diet Coke

is about to put me in a palsic state.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brain Tumors for everyone!

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by azruavatar on Sep 17, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Green tea is obnoxious to brew

Though, I’m quit eobsessive about my tea—loose leaf only, and carefully followed instructions.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Sep 17, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i only like sweet tea

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This. I’m not going to lie sweet tea was probably about 50% of the reason I went to a southern school.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Girls sunbathing in January was 75% of the reason I went to school in Texas

And remember, that Texas is not the South.

Carp Love (NSFW)

by thepainguy on Sep 17, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

my grandma in arkansas used to make the best sweet tea evar

she doesn’t do that anymore. if she stops making her german chocolate cake, i just might have to stop visiting her.

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

my sister makes the world's best german chocolate cake

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

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by mattyfrommo on Sep 17, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hook a brotha up

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I make the world's best german chocolate cake.

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 17, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you're my sister?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

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by mattyfrommo on Sep 17, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

My brother is named James...

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 17, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like the name James

not Jim

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

My name is James!

My sister’s name is not spants (or is it?).

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

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by mattyfrommo on Sep 17, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is getting weird.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Your name is Matt

or else everything you have ever said is a lie.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can't it be both?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

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by mattyfrommo on Sep 17, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

KABLOOOEY!!!

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i don't know what to think anymore

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

My third name is Scotty

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

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by mattyfrommo on Sep 17, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

are you always running out of powar?

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

I’ve giv’n her all she’s got captain, an’ I canna give her no more

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

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by mattyfrommo on Sep 17, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

A bird of prey cannah fire when she's cloaked!

… humpbacked people, sir???

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 18, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What is the first letter of her name?

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 18, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

L

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

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by mattyfrommo on Sep 18, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Loren?

Lisa?

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by gdm426 on Sep 18, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Leonora?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

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by mattyfrommo on Sep 18, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Samsonite!

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 18, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Phew.

You’re not my brother.

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 18, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yay!

Now you guys can hook up! This is just like some movie that was probably once made.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 18, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

may the GOB's have mercy on matty's soul

if mr spants finds out

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by gdm426 on Sep 18, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i smell a contest!

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i once was involved in a dance off

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

not the kind of contest i was hoping for

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think we need a German Chocolate Cake-Off

in St. Louis.

gdm and mattyfrommo will be the judges.

It has to be after the season though, cuz we might be stupid, but we aren’t stupid enough to risk letting gdm in St. Louis during THIS season.

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

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by mattyfrommo on Sep 17, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

rec'd

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll be a judge!!!

Carp Love (NSFW)

by thepainguy on Sep 17, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

3 judges does make more sense

can’t be deadlocked that way

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

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by mattyfrommo on Sep 17, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hear Paula Abdul has some room on her schedule

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no paula

pain guy will be fine

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like this sweet tea a lot

http://www.amazon.com/Sweet-Tea/dp/B00138F0OY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1253262118&sr=8-4

frickin awesome.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 18, 2009 4:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Teavana

Those are a bunch of freaks over there. I don’t really think anyone over there (employess, consumers) would find that as an insult, just a very concise description.

I actually have about 25 different kinds of tea in the house right now (black, green, red, white, etc.), but it’s just simple tea bags I can get in a grocery store and brew up in my iced tea maker. I don’t have diffusers or blend the tea leaves myself, or buy bags at > $50 a pound.

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Sep 17, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i love japanese tea

matcha especially. Really good for you and actually a much better morning pick-me-up (both for your health and alertness) than coffee (though I have to have my morning brew at work, too). Need to get some more of that stuff, ran out about a year ago…

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We've already discussed this.

You get your caffeine from tea. You’re still a junkie.

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 17, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But I don't drink tea in the morning

I drink it in the evenings, and still don’t have any trouble going to sleep at night. I’m immune I think.

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 17, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You must be.

Everyone metabolizes it differently. I can’t have caffeine after 2 or 3 or I can’t sleep.

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 17, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

getting old sucks

i can’t have any after 9 now. back in my prime i could drink it all day & night & still get a solid 10 hours of sleep.

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

is being a junkie a bad thing?

really, I have accepted the fact that I am addicted to too many “bad” things. Once you can accept that fact, life can be quite awesome.

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 17, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

(blows ring of smoke)

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

(sips scotch)

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

(beats a rentboy)

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

(recs a comment)

"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 17, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

(participates in any of my hobbies)

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 17, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Word

I drink no caffeine in the mornings. The weird dependency people have on caffeine is bizarre.

by mojowo11 on Sep 17, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i was that way for a loooong time

and then i started a new gig where i had to wake up at 5:30a daily and put in 10-12 hour days. suddenly had to start drinking coffee just to avoid passing out at my desk.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

College changed that thinking for me.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just graduated this spring

Don’t get me wrong, I did the energy drink thing in the case of super-late nights or all-nighters (and I pulled quite a few, thanks poor time management skills!), but I still don’t need caffeine in the morning if I’ve had a decent amount of sleep—say, 6 hours—the night before. It’s weird how culturally pervasive the idea that everyone needs caffeine to get going in the morning has become.

by mojowo11 on Sep 17, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

6 hours=decent??

I’m not looking forward to the real world.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 17, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

watching baseball games

and being awake the next day for work (at 5AM) are not always conducive to one another.

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by azruavatar on Sep 17, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sadly this is true.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I usually get up at 4AM for work

and if the Cards win, I am usually okay with 5 hours of sleep. If they lose, I am still awake but my sense of humour usually leaves me.

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 17, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I typically get more than 6 hours

But 6 hours is enough for me to run on at something near full functionality.

by mojowo11 on Sep 17, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I had maybe three hours last night. I don’t need caffeine if I have one night of 6 hours of sleep. If I’ve had a few in a row I do. Less than six I always need soemthing. Honestly today I will be having my first ever energy drink. I’ll let y’all know how it goes.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like Sugar free Monster

All the energy drinks taste so sugary to me

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m a fan of sugar. All they had in Pawmart was Full Throttle. I got Full Throttle Orange. It’s good.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

When I was a uni student I used to go to bed after dawn, frequently

and often went like 2 days with minimal sleep. I could sleep about 4-5 hrs a night no problem. Nowadays I struggle with less than 7.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's not weird

considering caffeine is an addictive substance.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Sep 17, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not so proud of that other abstinent, are you?

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was wondering how long it would take somebody to make that joke

You do not choose abstinence. Abstinence chooses you. Right gdm?

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 17, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It can be good for the soul.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

my soul must be freakin perfect by now

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

I don't drink coffee

but I have a horrible soda habit that i’m trying to kick right now. 2 days of nothing but cold, filtered water to drink and I have headaches and feel like crap.

by dcfcblues on Sep 17, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i hear heroin really takes the edge off that rebound.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 17, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hah...

i’ll stick to meth

by dcfcblues on Sep 17, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i had caffiene headache for weeks after i quit pop/soda

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm still amazed at how valuable David Eckstein was for a while.

And when I say “for a while” I really mean “in 2005” but eh.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 9:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

in retrospect

the transition from Renteria to Eckstein worked out fine on the whole. Surprised that they had similar defensive numbers in ‘04 and ’06. Still, I’d be curious to see Renteria’s numbers from his 2003 season.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But,

Eckstein was the 2006 World Series MVP!

You’re right, however, that we got a great season out of him in ’05. How about that UZR number, though?

Imagine if we had had that one pitcher who pitched well in the ’04 playoffs. I think we traded him or something…

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 17, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He did make Granderson fall down that one time

What a gritty little guy.

by mojowo11 on Sep 17, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Granderson had a bet with the wet outfield and lost.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cubs problem solving vs. Cardinals problem solving

“We need a lefty hitter.”

1. Milton Bradley, 3y/30M
2. tell Brendan Ryan he’s going to learn switch-hitting over the winter

/looking through BCB in an effort to understand the “L” flag

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Cubs problems solving vs. Cardinals problem solving, part 2

“We need to improve the ballclub.”

1. Make a low risk, high reward acquisition and carefully leverage prospects for value at the deadline.
2. Sprinkle holy water on the field in an attempt to remove the curse. Link

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that holy water stuff was just... unprofessional

who does that?

oh, right.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

professional priests.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

forgive me, Big Rev

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Had me confused momentarily with mixing up #1 and #2

by ADMDrayson on Sep 17, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

cubs problem solving vs. Cardinals problem solving, part 3

1. Trading Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio
2. Not doing that

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 17, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

part 4.

1. Bad Jason Marquis
2. Good Jason Marquis

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Part 5

1. Passable but still kinda crappy Aaron Miles
2. Historically awful, .462 OPS Aaron Miles

by mojowo11 on Sep 17, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

part 6

1. signing Brian Jordan away from a football career
2. signing Jeff Samardjiza away from a football career

i can do this all day

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This merits it's own FanPost

So that someone can link to it easily to rile up BCB.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Sep 17, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+infinity

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Sep 17, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Part 7

1. Mark Prior, 2003.
2. Adam Wainwright, 2006.

/unfair?

by splhcb67 on Sep 17, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Part 8

1. Build new stadium
2. spray windex a few times into the urinal trough

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Which, of course, reminds me of my all-time favorite Cards/Cubs joke

What’s the difference between the Cards and Cubs? Why, we’ve won a World Series in our new stadium, and they haven’t!

Never gets old, friends. Never. Gets. Old.

by splhcb67 on Sep 17, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

never heard that. going to try it around the office. if you don’t hear from me, that’s why.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I originally heard it in '06

In a flipped-around version, of course. (What do the Cards and Cubs have in common? Neither’s won a WS in their new stadium.) That, of course, lasted all of one year, so I just altered it to fit reality. I think it’s even funnier now, personally.

by splhcb67 on Sep 17, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

There's also this classic (which I'm sure everybody has already heard)

What do the World Series and a neutered grizzly have in common? No cubs!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Ha! Rec'd

Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.

by Cardinals645 on Sep 17, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Funny

I heard that joke as applied to the whole NL Central. We are the only team to have won in our current park. The butt of the joke is obviously the Cubs and how long they’ve tried

by brafi on Sep 17, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What are you trying to understand about it?

"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR

by RiverRat on Sep 17, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's futile, I know

why would a team feel the need to announce to everyone that they lost?

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The back story i read

involved merely letting the fans on the EL know the outcome of the game, thus the W or L. I think the same message could be sent if perhaps they didn’t raise a W flag on a particular day. More L flag info than you’d ever want to know.

"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR

by RiverRat on Sep 17, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it still doesn't answer the fundamental thinking

oh well. it’s the Cubs.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, well that is summed up right here:

oh well. it’s the Cubs.

"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR

by RiverRat on Sep 17, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think too hard sometimes

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Does anyone else find it weird that the Wiki page has like 20 names for the W flag. "AKA the flag with the W, W flag, W Win Flag, WWW.Winflag.cubs

by RDCardsfan on Sep 17, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s the cubs.

"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR

by RiverRat on Sep 17, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

My goodness but Rick Ankiel has been horrible this year

I hadn’t looked at his line for the season but he’s posted a .233/.285/.392 slash line for a .289 wOBA. What’s more disgusting is that he’s done that in 376 PAs. Need another example of TLR’s inability to properly evaluate players? Why does he have 376 PAs??? WHY WHY WHY? This is like Aaron Miles in CF.

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by azruavatar on Sep 17, 2009 10:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

PS

anyone want to wager on whether he’s shoulder is still screwed up?

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by azruavatar on Sep 17, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm just hoping it's not his head

don’t care who it is, i’m so over the traumatic brain injuries. wouldn’t wish it on anybody.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's both

he’s even said he gets jumpy when he gets to the warning track. and i’d bet the farm he’s going to have a “clean up” surgery on that shoulder in the off season.

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ugh. that's fantastic.

I’m not fond of Dick’s at-bats, but it’ll suck if this turns into CDunc the Sequel. Running injured players out there can’t be helping their careers.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

maybe he should become an infielder

but when you think about it, it should be no surprise to anyone that he’s jumpy in the OF now

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think that's a good example of Tony not evaluating a player

I seriously think Ankiel has more to do with Tony somehow feeling remorse for his inability to continue pitching, or something like that.

by saladdays on Sep 17, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Of course

that doesn’t make it right to keep playing him. I’m just sayin’…

by saladdays on Sep 17, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

mlb traderumors is doing a series on FA this offseason

and ankiel has come up as an option for all 3 OF spots…good luck to whomever signs him

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 17, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he probably won't cost much

and I’d say he’s a reasonable bounce-back candidate. He’s the sort of guy we see on other teams, look at his stats and say “Hey guys, I think I might’ve spotted a nice low-risk, high-reward bounceback candidate here”, unjaundiced by having actually watched him play all year.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

plus

there’s some value in being able to play him at all 3 OF positions. he has a track record of power. there are def things to like. if he’s cheap he’s classic low risk/high reward.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seems like he's still not healthy-

if he’s cheap he could make some team look pretty smart.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 17, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

BCB is talking about getting him

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no! jim edmonds notwithstanding, don't they ever learn?

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 17, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

guess not

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wrigley certainly is a good place for him

nice natural padding on the walls and a short porch in rf.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Soriano, Bradley, Fukudome, Johnson,

How many OFs do they need?

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 17, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

they just called up So Taguchi, so....

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Small sample size Azru

by vivaelpujols on Sep 17, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's gone from two years of a .360 wOBA

to a .289 wOBA. I think he’s screwed up either mentally or physically.

He’s swinging at more balls outside the zone, less in the zone and making less contact on what he swings at regardless of where it’s at. He’s getting worse.

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by azruavatar on Sep 17, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's been worse this year

Doesn’t mean that he will continue to. ZIPS projects a .326 wOBA, even after those ~400 awful plate appearances.

by vivaelpujols on Sep 17, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

meanwhile, we know where Of the Rose is

Because Cubs fans are still following him around.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

the part where he starts laughing is priceless, though.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i want to punch a baby

every time I hear the words “clubhouse cancer”.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Sep 17, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Andrew?

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 17, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

zambrano is an ass, huh?

i think the sun rose in the east this morning

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 17, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

funny

because when he was good he was a “gamer” a “winner” a “fiery competitor”

now? “fat” “lazy” “ass”

haha

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

speaking of players we can't let go

Are we going to see the last of So Taguchi this weekend?

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The answer is yes

Unless you count his subsequent appearance as a baseball-samurai in some future heroic anime. Or something.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the future is here, my friend

the future is here.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I vote

we use him as a scout to uncover baseball talent around the Pacific Rim…and also to report back on where to find the best sushi.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like this idea.

by cardsgirl95 on Sep 17, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He needs to open a sushi stand at Busch.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

also a good idea

He could split time between scouting and prepping tekka maki. I like it!

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would eat sushi everyday of my life

if it was fiscally possible.

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by azruavatar on Sep 17, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn the overhead costs of raw fish!

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 17, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and mercury poisoning

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

s'pose you can avoid it

if you pass on tuna mostly. perhaps stick to octopus?

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm more of a fan of squid if we're talking non-fish sushi.

Roe is also delicious but I have no idea what the mercury effect would be. I’ve had grilled octopus before that was tender and absolutely delicious but octopus as sushi or sashimi has always seems weird and rubbery to me.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

true

or Unagi (eel) – also delicious when grilled

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh hell yes

Eel is my favorite Japanese food by far.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

mmmm eeeeeeeel

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i commend both of you for good taste

let’s also not forget the wonders of edamame

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

One of my favorite foods period

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 17, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i agree about squid

grilled or fried.
also after a day of drinking and poker, in vegas i tried an all-you-can-eat named Todai. I consumed more sushi than one should at a a single sitting. I can’t fairly assess the quality – due to my BAC – but it was the most enjoyment i ever gotten from sushi / sashimi. I do remember the selection being endless.

wonderful century of failure

by _pistol_ on Sep 17, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

After turning 21

I went to Vegas 3 days later—-ended up at an expensive all you can eat somewhere (don’t remember where) and really my only memory was that I was eating everything with my hands and I said at one point “this tastes like happiness”.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 17, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you guys ever try SanSai

cheap and hits the spot…

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Huh. I didn't realize that place was a chain. Seen it in Clayton but never eaten there.

Does it only have locations in California and Missouri? That’s kind of a weird combination.

I remain loyal to Seki’s in the Loop.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i mostly go there because of location

but I do like that it’s no big thing to have a couple of bucks in my pocket and still get a nice bowl of miso.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sounds awesome.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i heart miso

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think they also leave the tv tuned to Cards games, too.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sekisui on South Grand

was So’s favorite.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

my buddy works at Modai Sushi Lounge

And their food is solid

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You should buy Gift Certificates off restaurant.com

They run promotions often to get the $25 GC for $3. You just have to spend $50 on food not including booze.

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

There rolls are okay

but their nigiri isn’t very good.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think you mean

There rolls are okay
but they’re nigiri isn’t very good.

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by jd is legend on Sep 17, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do we need to have a discussion about panini/panino and gelati/gelato

Silly grammar.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Does not compute.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

there they’re their
to too two

werd.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pizza!

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Sep 17, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you're on the east side of the river

I’m a huge fan of this place in Fairview Heights called Sushi Tatsu. It looks a little like a hole in the wall from the outside but it’s very nice inside, quiet, reasonably priced and tastes great.

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by azruavatar on Sep 17, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

mmm my parent's live in FH

ill have to tell them to check it out

by FunkeeC on Sep 17, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Love Sansai.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would eat sushi everyday of my life
if it was fiscally possible.

This.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

so many choices…it really wouldn’t get old…add in some sake…OMG

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 17, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i've never had sushi

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You've never lived.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i would agree with that statement

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

at least you are saving yourself from either buying really really expensive food

or are saving yourself from getting intestinal worms and mercury poisoning.

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 17, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's totally worth it though

The best thing about sushi is I swear it gets better every time you eat it. I started off way back in the day like “meh, it’s okay, too expensive for me though” and now it’s awesomely good.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 17, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

there are def some places

where the sushi is good and decently priced. even in Chicago

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No matter what though

It’s way more expensive to get stuffed on sushi than it is most other places. It’s a delicacy thing so it’s not surprising.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 17, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

stop me when i go too far out on a limb

but given that sushi is soooo healthy, it might be a good investment in your health if you eat it regularly.

just thinkin’. might have to get some sushi tomorrow now.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

bad for the environment though

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

true

in terms of overfishing?

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll let my kids deal with that

We’re gonna have frickin wireless electricity, they can figure that out in 50 years. Right?

What I wouldn’t do for infinite cloned mercury free tuna.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 17, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

wireless electricity is

Telsa old

I don’t think we are putting it off on our kids. It will happen in OUR lifetimes

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Signs, signs, everywhere the signs.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Old but it's gaining commercial practicality/appeal

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 17, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seeing is believing

I hear all this talk about alternative energies but it never happens

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hear by 1967 we'll be living on the moon!

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 17, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not talking alternative energy

I’m talking wireless electricity that means I won’t have to actually plug in my laptop. It’s the next step in laziness that will keep me from EVER leaving my couch.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 17, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yah yah yah i hear you but

I am not holding my breath

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i have it

on my sonicare already

...baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i know the technology exists

I just don’t see it being wide spread and not expecting it to any time soon

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Stop raining on my laziness fantasy

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 17, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bam!
Done and done.

It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.

by YesWeOquendo on Sep 18, 2009 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's the mercury driving you more mad each time

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 17, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i do own a mad hatter hat

I enjoy it

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he cracked open a thermometer in high school physics

and were touching the mercury a little bit

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 17, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

mmmmm..... intestinal worms.....

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 18, 2009 4:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m getting sushi tonight!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

is that sushi place

still there, near Olive and Fee Fee in Creve Coeur, in the same plaza as Happy China? Whatever that place was, it was damn good. Uh. In the 1990s.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

bad gdm!

Step 1 . try sushi
Step 2 . get laid
Step 3. ?
Step 4. profit

did I do that right?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 17, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Phase 1. crawl outta basement

Phase 2. get laid

Phase 3. eat sushi

Phase 4. PROFIT!

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

how you downplay him!

Franchise. Locations in three states. Signed jerseys on the walls, international baseball on the tv’s, and a cardboard cutout of So with a ring on each finger greeting diners.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

then his own reality show

obviously mixing in something from Iron Chef + The Bachelor + baseball. Add on supplemental merchandising (think his face on coffee mugs, lunch boxes, and of course a whole line of So…? cologne for men).

Who wants to be an angel investor?

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So is so over it

talk about surprise guest appearance.

The 40-year-old Taguchi, who lives in St. Louis, disregarded the Cubs’ phone calls Wednesday night because he said he didn’t know who would be calling him from the 312 area code.

“I don’t have any friends in Chicago, so I thought it was a wrong number,” he said. “So I just ignored it for maybe two hours.”

Taguchi’s agent called him and told him the Cubs were looking for him for the rest of the season.

“Cubs?” he replied. “Why now?”

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

so freaking awesome

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

again, let's trade some nobody for him on the last day of the season, give him a PH

at-bat and let him retire a card. please. he loves the city (he makes his home here) and the city loves him.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 17, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

we're your real friends, So!!

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thursty anybody?

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh please… let’s do it. That would make me so happy.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 17, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

or

That would make you SO Taguchi

sorry, couldn’t resist.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

6ly?

/Facepalm

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no facepalm, no

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

is that true?

if that is true, I love So more than I thought I could

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 17, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's what the link says

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wagner'd

So rules. I’m all for the 1-game contract mentioned by tom or make him the official team thurston for the post-season.

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Sep 17, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rolen is frickin brilliant when healthy

Those combined numbers have got to be one of the best, if not the best, for a third baseman in a single season. Brooks Robinson had some better years on defense, but he was mostly an average hitter except when he won MVP in ‘64. Schmidt never hit .300. Boggs and Brett were hitting machines, but fielding was very average. I don’t know who else pre-1960 to compare.

As a heeter, I'm no afray of ennybodie.
- APu.

by Mr. Wilson on Sep 17, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mike Schmidt was a beast with the bat

Aren’t we past looking exclusively at BA??

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 17, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

True.

He led the league in slugging and OPS several times. He did hit .317 in the ’81 strike season, too.

As a heeter, I'm no afray of ennybodie.
- APu.

by Mr. Wilson on Sep 17, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Schmitty did say a few years ago

That he thought Rolen was the best he ever saw. But Mike is a gentleman, too.

As a heeter, I'm no afray of ennybodie.
- APu.

by Mr. Wilson on Sep 17, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

George Kell? Al Rosen?

by ridgesee on Sep 17, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Al does a nice job on BCB

he played 3b too?

wonderful century of failure

by _pistol_ on Sep 17, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I assume you mean the combination of awesome offense and awesome defense?

Cause there is this little-known third baseman for the Yankees… but his best years as a 3B combine awesome hitting with just OK fielding.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea, and steroids

Ass

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 17, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

by the way, i think you need to up your sig to 6.5 WAR years

~6 is never going to happen

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 17, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, I put it that way for two reasons

One, fangraphs and the CHONE guy’s WAR have different values because they’re calculated differently, so I wanted to allow for some variance. Also, I put it as 6 instead of 7 or 8 because 2002 did in fact happen. Fangraphs has his 2002 total at 6.1, baseballprojection.com has it at 5.8. That’s his worst year, therefore his only real “down” year.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

good point

but methinks that will never happen again…hell just 7 WAR may not happen again….HE’S IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF HIS PRIME

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 17, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Probably won't, at least until he gets old

but by then I don’t know if it will count as a “down” year or just as a “normal” year for someone his age who is so awesome but not earth-shatteringly awesome anymore.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he's changing the laws of statistics

terms like mean, average, and standard deviation have no meaning with him

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 17, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

injuries, man

even one that knocks him out for ~1 month, it’s going to be hard to top 7 WAR.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

shhh

i am being irrational here…give me my moment

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 17, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I meant single season combined.

Maybe Paul DiPodesta has a number for that.

by Mr. Wilson on Sep 17, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The awesomeness of Rolen's hitting paired with the awesomeness of his fielding was quite a thing

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The reason we won in 2006 and not 2004 or 2005 is something WAR does not account for...

GRIT!

by ADMDrayson on Sep 17, 2009 10:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

that's what VEB is for

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2009/7/28/966493/our-hitters-the-grit-factor

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can someone...I'm horribly bad at math, do an analysis of Grit from 2004-06 and present?

by ADMDrayson on Sep 17, 2009 10:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

My take from this

Starting pitching, starting pitching, starting pitching. The ‘04 offense was absolutely insane…but the starters weren’t world-beaters, and lost the best of the bunch (Carp) before the postseason as well. Same deal in ’05, with the exception of Carp going for crazy good numbers. ’06: Yeah, the same thing, with worse offense, except once the playoffs hit, Weaver and Soup pitched way above their heads. (And, as an additional help, Yadi hit WAY the heck better than a -.2 WAR guy.)

So, I guess the upshot of this all is, it’s much better to have three starters at 5 WAR all season than to hope like heck that they start pitching like 5 WAR starters in the postseason.

by splhcb67 on Sep 17, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Erik has article on Boog at Fangraphs

They call him Boog

Is it just me or does Fangraphs have tons of articles about Cardinals?

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

oooh i gotta update the compedium post

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

^n

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Doesn't Erik Manning write about the cards quite a bit?

Also, they have to cover Albert Pujols because he’s objectively ridiculous, and they’re all about objectivity.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 17, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

RJ seems to write about the Cardinals a lot also

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would suppose, even objective observers can get sucked in

by the seductive allure that is the Cardinals.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

"seductive allure" and "Cardinals"

= bad porn.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

or bad documentary on avian mating rituals

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 17, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

with mustaches

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hmmm yes

adds to the allure

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 17, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or a documentary about Richelieu's mistress

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

but wouldn't that be more likely

to contain words like liaison and boudoir?

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe the BBC version. Also, "ribald".

But the Showtime/Cinemax/HBO version will be must more saucy.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

"be must more"?

I would agree that it must be much more saucy….that doesn’t mean Motte will be in it, does it?

/reads interweb very well

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Motte could be some crazy Cardinal's guard or something. Maybe slap an eyepatch on him.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rocheforte?

Isn’t that a smelly kind of a cheese?

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You know

I was OK with that movie. It wasn’t great, but it did a decent job of capturing the essence of the book. But of all the musketeers, Porthos would probably be most likely to know what is a cheese and what isn’t.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed,

I thought was fairly well done and Oliver Platt cracks me up anyway. Throw in Gabrielle Anwar and I could watch anything.

I still like the early seventies versions that had Richard Chamberlin and Faye Dunaway in them. Charleton Heston as Richelieu was great.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Crap

I meant “fairly done”.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've actually never watched that the whole way through.

But I"m currently borrowing it from someone so hopefully I’ll get around to it. Seen maybe the first half or so of the first one and it’s great.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Have you recognized the guys playing Athos and D'Artagnan yet?

And since we are running this vein, what did you think of Man in the Iron Mask? Personally, I liked it alot. In and of itself it was a well done movie. If you put that many good actors in one movie, they’ll make it good.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The choice of Malkovich and Sarsgaard as father and son

Was just brilliant. Sarsgaard sounds exactly like him.

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by Solanus on Sep 17, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes. I really like Michael York because his face and accent are so fun

I instantly recognized the guy who plays Athos but I didn’t know his name until I looked it up. What was really weird to me was Christopher Lee as Rochefort. It was pretty hard for me to see it at first.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, and I haven't seen Man in the Iron Mask yet, only a few minutes of it randomly.

I fully intend to read the rest of the novels at some point, maybe that will be enough to get me to watch all these films for real. I’ve only read the first two, the third one is kind of intimidating because it’s so huge.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 17, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

St. Louis was in the hands of the French first.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

they do...and i love it

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 17, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is it just me or does Fangraphs have tons of articles about Cardinals?

There was a crazy lull in Cards articles throughout the middle of the season, so it seems like they’re kinda making up for it lately. Having Erik writing there certainly helps.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What chance do you guys think of Ryan winning the GG?

Who is his big competition? Rollins seems to be having a down year

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no chance

as a commenter in the fangraphs post mentioned, the GG has become an offensive award

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 17, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

Rollins or Hanley or Tulo based on offense and a halo reputation for their defense.

GG is a bad award. Not as bad as Rolaids Relief Man though.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's too bad they give out those shiny gloves, though.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

shiny helps

i’m sure they look really nice on the mantle.

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

they do wear actual gold gloves

I mean, I don’t know if it’s real gold, but Rawlings gives them the special gloves.

Apparently the protocol is strict… Yadi only borrowed Albert’s 1B glove because he’s a Gold Glover too.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

what would the actual consequence have been??

i wonder what the actual consequence might be, say, if Yadi hadn’t been a genuine gold glover?

Perhaps he’d have been forced to wear a women’s softball uni?

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

My mind's eye!!!!

Thanks so very much for that. I won’t be able to sleep for a week.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the baseball gods would have smote them.

and stranger things have happened…. if you’re really into tempting fate….

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

And smote him, thus

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by thepainguy on Sep 17, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the picture in your sig scared me

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 17, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

why?

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Are you afraid od naked, beautiful women

…or carp?

Carp Love (NSFW)

by thepainguy on Sep 17, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

not what i was expecting at all

and at first glance, i thought it was beastiality…scary stuff

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 17, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wait, it's not about bestiality?

Buzzkill.

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by thepainguy on Sep 17, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

is that Derrek Lee???

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

David Price

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Side note: Over-rated cha---cha---cha cha cha

Hasn’t dominated at any level of pro-ball outside of A+ ball….and still didn’t come close to owning A+ ball like all of the other recent phenom pitchers.

(Note, I said this before the year)

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 17, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Price is so hot.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 18, 2009 4:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm all for Boog but I don't think he can make up for his shaky play in the beginning of the year

that said, it would be a nice surprise. some airtime on a bigger stage might help that campaign.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I tend to go against the grain here

I think he could really win it this year. Book it.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Speaking of Erik

and therefore FR…Redbirds took a 2-0 series lead in the PCL championship series

thats exciting…starting pitching has been outstanding throughout the playoffs…>30IP and only 3 ER

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 17, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

we were following it in the gamethread

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who says we don't have any pitching at AAA?

Looks like we might not miss Mort as much as we thought at the time of the Holliday deal.

In a related note — I’m pretty excited about the Jaime Garcia era, hopefully starting Spring 2010.

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by fourstick on Sep 17, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

JAIME GARCIA

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jaime Garica seems like a dream come true

For Duncan and TLR. A lefty that throws groundballs

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think I saw one of his starts in the majors

Wasn’t sure what to think, but kept an eye on him occasionally.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's almost a shame Dunk won't be here to see him rock next season

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

MARTY MASON

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 17, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he's the real man behind the curtin

i really don’t know if he’d want to step out from behind it

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

just hire Carp as player-coach and Marty can stay where he is

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yadi2

Yer a friggin genius…you really work in a think tank, don’t ya? Tell the truth man.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

this season, Carpenter has apparently

set the tone for the Cardinals starters
fixed the mechanics of Adam Wainwright
found out how John Smoltz was tipping pitches (Dan Patrick)
viewed Shelby Miller when Dave Duncan was out of town*
worked with Mitchell Boggs to perfect his delivery (FSM) (picture)

*ok, all the other starters were there too. even AJ Pujols got a look at Shelby.

Hire him already. It’s not quite Hal McCrae-is-superfluous-around-Albert-Pujols, but come on.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

cut out that extra 'C'

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

donate it to one of the guys posting about

kyle mclellan.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 17, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

does K-Mac fall under the L Theory?

Because that’s a lot of L’s in his name.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

look's likely

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by gdm426 on Sep 17, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But he starts off with a K, so he's going to have some success

But it’s outweighed by the four L’s.

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by thepainguy on Sep 17, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I got no arguments against it.

The guy is damned sharp. And if somebody doesn’t do as they’re told…we’ll know.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

we'll know what? They have really awkward suitcases?

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We'll know they didn't listen to Carp

by the little black rings around their eyes.

"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 17, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

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by thepainguy on Sep 17, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha, the brewers have to pay braden looper and his -.6 WAR 6.5 mil next year

and remember when people wanted us to sign Fuentes…he’s not been very good this year(though to be fair, it is the AL)

Link

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 17, 2009 12:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

Reyes and Miller were much better signings than Fuentes would have been. I still think his numbers would probably be better in the NL, but not a lot better.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Sep 17, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

by airhad on Sep 17, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I, for one (out of several hundred on this site)

would probably have vomited if we’d given Fuentes a $30m-odd contract. He was never that consistent even in the NL.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 17, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

bored? read moar fanshots

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/fanshots/links

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 17, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

well, hopefully it's a good time to go into a slump

and then start to go on a winning streak at the end of the season. if the cards won in ‘06, with that roster, proves something, I think. it’s more about who is winning at the time than about anything else, eh?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 17, 2009 12:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

TLR is just teaching

the guys the value of limping into the playoffs. expect more Thurston starts, Wellemeyer appearances and puppy kicking.

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by madding on Sep 17, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've been mulling

over writing a fanpost on Cards’ Septembers under LaRussa because they’ve had some pretty futile Septembers in years’ past. However, some of the best September records (2000 to 2002) seemed to fizzle in the playoffs.

My guess is, yes they are slumping…slumping like a fox.

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Sep 17, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

boog and razzums duking it out for the uzr/150 lead

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