Game 147 Open Thread -- 16th September, 2009
by the red baron on Sep 16, 2009 1:14 PM EDT
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It seems very odd to be talking about an extended period of losing by this team, but that's what we're doing. The Cards have now lost four of five, the first time they've done so since July 18-22. During that stretch, the Cardinals lost the second of a three-game set to the Diamondbacks, then were unceremoniously swept by the Astros. It was probably the low point of the season, the hour at which I think most of us believed we were seeing the beginning of the end.The end of that series with Houston also just happened to coincide with what has to be seen now as the turning point of the season: the acquisition of Matt Holliday. Holliday was dealt to the Cardinals on the 24th of July; the Cards dropped two of three to the Phillies in the first series with him in the fold, then didn't lose another series until the Braves just came to town.
Of course, the question is this: did the Cardinals start playing better because of Matt Holliday, or did Holliday simply come along at a remarkably fortuitous moment? Personally, I lean more toward the latter explanation, as this team has been largely carried by the starting rotation over the past month and a half, and I have a hard time rationalising how Matt Holliday had a positive impact on the pitching staff. But I am willing to listen to any suggestions.
Through the first 98 games of the season, the Cards' aggregate batting line was .254/.325/.409, good for a team OPS of .734. Since Holliday joined the team, the batting line has been .278/.345/.436, OPS of .781. Of course, not all of that improvement is due to Holliday himself, but rather to the overall changes made to the lineup around that time. Rick Ankiel's playing time has decreased, though not enough to keep him from racking up various types of golden headgear. Likewise Thursty Joe, Khalil Greene, and Tyler Greene. Take those four bats out of your lineup, and your numbers are bound to improve, and probably rather markedly. (For the record, I'm still very intrigued by Tyler Greene long-term, but also realistic about his chances of ever making enough contact to be a useful ML player.) Regardless of where you fall on the continuum of how much value John Mozeliak gained or lost in his various dealings this season (and I think my own feelings on the subject are pretty well known by now), there has certainly been a significant upgrade in the offensive talent level of the major league team from the beginning of the season until now.
Which, of course, brings me to my complaint. Ha! Didn't see that one coming, did you?
I know I've harped on it before, but I just can't leave it alone: this team is too talented to be as inconsistent on offense as they are. Once again last night, we saw a pitcher absolutely shut down the Cardinals, as much because of help given by the Cards' hitters as because of the pitcher's performance. Don't get me wrong; the Cards are currently a pretty good offensive team, scoring slightly over 4.8 runs per game since that Game 99 cutoff. But that number is pulled up a ton by some big crooked scores; the Cards have been shut out four times during that period. Ten times in those forty-eight games have the Cardinals scored two runs or less. Maybe I'm making too much out of this; I honestly don't know what the rate of scoring below a certain number for the average team is, but this squad certainly feels like feast or famine to me.
Remarkably, though, I have good news on that front to leave you with today. During last night's postgame powwow, Tony La Russa commented on the offensive approach of his team. I'm paraphrasing, strictly from memory, but he said something along the lines of, "Well, we like to be aggressive, but we took ourselves out of a lot of at-bats, helped out the pitcher too much. We like to be aggressive, but we were maybe over aggressive out there."
Do you have any idea how much good it does my heart to hear even that tiniest of admissions there may, in fact, be something about the club's approach that needs changing? Sure, it was one, maybe two sentences, but the words over aggressive came out of Tony's mouth, and that's enough for me. Maybe we'll see a bit more patience at the plate today. It may not help, as Josh Johnson is one of the really great young pitchers in the NL, but an improved process will lead to improved results somewhere along the line.
By the way, I'm getting rather tired of dealing with day games on Wednesdays. Seems like every time I turn around this year, there's an early game on my day to post, and I'm scrambling to get something put together. I certainly hope MLB decides to do a bit better job of scheduling games around me next season.
The Baron's Playlist for the 16th of September, 2009: Wade's Record Collection
In memory of someone who meant an awful lot to me an awful long time ago.
"I Am the Resurrection" - The Stone Roses
"Beatles and Stones" - The House of Love
"Molly's Lips" - The Vaselines
"Rain" - Blake Babies
"Fortune Cookie Prize" - Beat Happening
"Nearly Lost You" - Screaming Trees
"Black Gold" - Soul Asylum
Enjoy the game, everybody. I'll program an overflow for around 2:30.
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anybody know how to make a chart on a fanpost?
or have a link to instructions?
many thanks to any help.
nevermind...
Derrick Goold beat me to it.
by RedbirdAvenger on Sep 16, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
horray day games!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions
But I'm at work
and won’t be able to watch it.
"The almighty tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he’s pretty sure you’re screwed" Albert to opposing pitchers.
i'm out of class for the day
hooray wednesdays!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i have an insanely busy afternoon
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 16, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
that's me on tuesdays and thursdays
but m/w/f are sweeter than anything.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
my adbloc finally caught the lg ad
so that makes my firefox happy.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
i was productive this morning, and now i'm home to watch a game and kick back some Franklins
let’s hear it for day drinking!
All I can get is Game Cast and
it is soooo slow or locks up.
"The almighty tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he’s pretty sure you’re screwed" Albert to opposing pitchers.
I have so much homewor and still one class today, but am I going to not watch baseball, no. Because I mae bad choices and Colby’s playing.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Ah, the motto of Hal McRae.
I see you’ve read his book.
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 16, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Why read the book?
When you could be booking him and get it straight from the horses mouth.
Who wouldn’t want this guy speaking at their event?
Yeah, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
"There are three things the average man thinks he can do better than anybody else: build a fire, run a hotel and manage a baseball team."- Rocky Bridges
by That's a Winner on Sep 16, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because I mae bad good choices
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The question I will let the first person replying to me decide is
Is test review for a test I know I can get at least an 85 worth missing the Cardinals game for?
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Sep 16, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I would obviously say No. Do you need higher than an 85?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
just take advantage of the marvelous TI-89....
like a digital crib sheet :)
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
This was actually my plan
and I’ll consider studying at the time that’s enough right. Cardinals Basebal Oh wait Thurston is playing….I’ll see you guys later.
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Sep 16, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
We were talking a few days about K-Mac's sinker this year vs. his 4-seamer last year.
His velocity has been up and it looks to me like he might have ditched the sinker or changed his action over his last few appearances.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Today's Lineup... it's ugly
Schumaker 2B
Ankiel RF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Rasmus CF
Molina C
Thurston 3B
Lugo SS
Pineiro P
....my quick smells like french toast...
So has the news already spread around here that the FJM folks are back and running Deadspin for the day?
Good stuff.
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 16, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions
i'm confused
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the heads up
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Sep 16, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll hold my full conclusion till Ken Tremendous posts
But they seem to be out of practice…
Not afraid to nitpick
Eh.
Tremendous was always the real reason that place was so great anyway. The others were pretty good, but Ken’s rising tide lifted all boats, as it were.
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 16, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought the MJ/Fawcett piece was pretty good
though that was largely on the back of the absurd article
by brackenthebox on Sep 16, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Too aggressive...
hopefully Tony’s blurb here will have the same affect as the one he made in late April about being moar aggressive.
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
That was my thought,
but I’m afraid of jinxes, so I didn’t say it.
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 16, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
does anybody else think that the lineup today is a metaphor?
sort of Tony’s way to sacrifice an animal to the baseball gods without actually doing it?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions
well im sure that there are enough guys on the team willing to actually kill something
maybe they could take out fredbird
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
is my computer slow or did everyone fall asleep?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions
pretending to work
and/or i have nothing worth saying right now
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
its cool
i should be working but instead im worrying about my work computer’s internet connection
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not even sure why i'm pretending
there’s no one else in the office today. they wouldn’t even know if i left
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
that quote from tony warms the cockles of my heart.*
*not sure what cockles are or whether in fact my heart has any.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
I like nothing better than to have my cockles warmed.
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by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Sep 16, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
thats what she said
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
OT: I survived a kitten attack
While in college, I lived in a house that I rented (with a few other roommates). This house was next to a vacant lot. Well, the lot was vacant of a house, though it was home to a stray cat.
I knew the (human) neighbor prior to moving in, and on Sundays we would grill out behind his house on his large stone/brick grill. One particular Sunday we were visited by a momma cat and a few feral kittens. These adorable baby animals were very shy, and would run if you stood up. But hunger quickly overcame shyness, and they would eat any scraps you threw to them.
Over the next few Sundays a cautious trust was established between the cats and us. One little black kitten in particular was hardly shy at all. This one black kitten caught my eye, and I made up my mind to "rescue" it.
A week or two later, I have the day off work, and I’m hanging out at my house in my pajama pants and a t-shirt. I had a busy day planned of playing video games and grilling meat. I step out on my front porch and fire up my grill. Before I’m done cooking, my little visitors show up for a free meal. Only this time the mother is nowhere to be seen.
Now is my chance.
I place a "bread crumb" trail of cat treats from the stairs to up the porch to where I’m standing. Leading the way is the little black kitten. Ninja fast I grab my new little kitten.
And then it happens…
My last lucid thought was that my cat, Retzen, was about to have a new playmate. That thought quickly changed.
The moment I touched this kitten (read: demon), it screams with a bloodlust howl never heard before by human ears. This howl empowers/buffs the kittens surrounding me and instantly they fluff up super saiyan style to twice their size.
Then they attack.
This is no kung-fu movie; they do not wait and attack me one at a time. They are as relentless as (fluffy) zombies, and never give me a moments rest.
One minute I’m grilling chicken. The next I have a severely lacerated forearm from a screaming kitten who has now morphed into a (still screaming) misengineered blender with the blades on the outside. Not only that… I’m being climbed, cut, clawed, pounced, ripped, bitten, scraped, scratched, mangled and eviscerated by a half dozen of its siblings.
Here I am, a full grown male in his 20’s and I’m being felled by mere claw and fur weighing half a pound each. So I go on the defensive. I tuck in the tiny, black, demon kitten with my right hand, so he can’t get away. With my left hand free, I start swatting away the other kittens attacking/climbing/besieging my legs.
Had I planned this ahead of time, I would have worn some sort of armor. Alas, this day my only armor is a thin pair of pajama pants and a t-shirt. Never in my wildest dreams did I think I would have this much trouble from a kitten.
Struggling for freedom, my captured kitten lands his killing blow. Tucked like a football, and drenched in my own blood, he wiggles free enough to bite what would normally be a pair of jeans. Oddly enough, this was the kitten’s lucky day. Rather than biting my leg, he grabs hold of my manhood through my pajama pants.
I now know this cat is pure, unadulterated evil.
It is now my turn to let out a howl of my own as I pull off the kitten still dangling by its teeth from my lower extremity. Once free of the circumcising beast, I chase the kittens off my porch, and run inside to tend my wounds.
The kittens were never seen again…
holy crap
how is your manhood?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
after a traumatizing vet trip, my own cat (non-feral) took a good chunk out of my arm
the next time I tried to put him in his carrier.
them cats is crazy, man.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
holy crap
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
it is entirely possible that skippy is our second-best defensive infielder on the field.
think about that.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Possibly
but I think both Boog and Pujols are better, although Albert’s looked overly aggressive sometimes this year and it’s hurt him defensively.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
boog is not on the field. pujols would be the best on the field now.
i meant that both thurston and lugo may be worse than skippy.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
so does dave duncan have the wrong johnson in his book?
have we gotten that guy out yet???
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions
its never fun to get the wrong johnson in your book
by Expatcardfan on Sep 16, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I would just as soon not have a johnson in my book.
That would be a very odd bookmark for a guy to have.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
/sarcasm?
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 16, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
pineiro is going to be taping brendan's pinkie himself between innings.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
i never imagined that there would be a player like lugo to make me wish for skip and k-bot
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions
Joel Piñeiro is either the snap, the crackle, or the pop
of our hypothetical 3 man playoff rotation.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I don't want snap or pop anywhere near my playoff rotation
by brackenthebox on Sep 16, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point. Revision:
Is Joel Piñeiro the carrots, the celery, or the onion in the mirepoix that is our playoff rotation?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I know that carrots sink
so I think we have our anwser
by brackenthebox on Sep 16, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
y''' y'''' y'''''?
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 16, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
wait those need another '
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 16, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
oh my god what the fuck!?
Every time I click in the gray area a new window opens up about a cell phone. This is obnoxious
was having the same problem
finally got ad block to kill it.
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
because it's actually there
you’re ad blocker is just blocking the image, but the link is still there.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not sure
my firefox automatically got the image, but not the link that goes along with the image. so, like you, i have grey area but a link attached with the gray area where the annoying image would be.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
is anybody for either team trying in this game?
this is like a rec league co-ed softball game on the effort level
by Expatcardfan on Sep 16, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
sinkerz that sink
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
for Fuck sake!!!!!!
can we please please please get out of this fucking rut?!?!?!?!
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions
YADI FAIL
AM I DREAMING?
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
holy hell!
5 singles already? could be 6 (uggla)
could be 4 (lugo)
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 16, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
it may be a good thing I can’t watch this game
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by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Sep 16, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions
apply paper bag to face. breathe deeply.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
me too
"The almighty tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he’s pretty sure you’re screwed" Albert to opposing pitchers.
that was Maybin
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
Don't worry everyone!
Ank and Thursty are in the lineup! Oh, wait….
"Baseball has been good to me since I quit trying to play it." - Whitey Herzog
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Sep 16, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions
i love brendan as much as the next guy
but he sits an awful lot
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he jammed it sliding into a base
then he was devoured alive by ravenous wolves.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
26 i think
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that kind of is a lot for one inning.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
death by singles yay!!
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
you can't hit into a double play if you don't hit it
by Expatcardfan on Sep 16, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
good call
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 16, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah skippy
"The almighty tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he’s pretty sure you’re screwed" Albert to opposing pitchers.
i think we need an OHHH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
ATG this ump is blind
or stupid… or both
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions
calls strikes by smell
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 16, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Good thing
we were planning on scoring a whole mess of runs today.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
Johnson and the umpire really love that bottom left corner of the strike zone.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
do you mean the blatant ball out of the strike zone?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, not as bad as some
but ATG, he got like, three called strikes that were outside?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
hes a strike out machine
you cannot stop him…………only hope to contain him.
remniscient of juan e...
thankfully he struck out and didnt gidp
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Rick Ankiel has been 10x worse than Encarnacion
Encarnacion did exactly what he was brought in to do.
Not afraid to nitpick
ha
i know… i liked juan e… i just wanted to say that
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
i think ank missed the bunt sign
"The almighty tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he’s pretty sure you’re screwed" Albert to opposing pitchers.
on the radio they said that johnson has been pulled after like 85 pitches
in the last few games because of them trying to baby him
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions
that's still 7 solid innings against this lineup lately
by Expatcardfan on Sep 16, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
true... but we still got the 8th
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is a good idea for their potential franchise pitcher in a year coming off of TJ
Not afraid to nitpick
and why not? young pitcher, mostly out of the pennant and wild-card race.
why burn him up today?
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
3 runs
3 runs may as well be 30 with this offense…ugh
yeah, we'll never get anywhere with dead weight like albert pujols and matt holliday
on this team.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
we should just DFA'm
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 16, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
BOOK on holliday
sliderz in the dirtz
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
no thats soriano
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
soriano is sliderz in the other batterz box
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 16, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
That one should have been gone
Proud to be a member of The Night of the Longest Train Wreck Ever (9/10/09)
Do these pitches look as bad live as they do on gameday?
"Baseball has been good to me since I quit trying to play it." - Whitey Herzog
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Sep 16, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions
meat
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 16, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, ESPN Gamecast
Only about 3 out of the last 10-12 pitches have been anywhere near the strike zone on here
"Baseball has been good to me since I quit trying to play it." - Whitey Herzog
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Sep 16, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Johnson throws lots and lots of fastballs
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
And as soon as I post that, "slider" "swinging strike"
“Matt Holliday strikes out swinging, two outs”
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
raz will tie it!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions
dirty jinxer
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 16, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Where?
I am low on gas and you need a jacket
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 16, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't like smooth jazz, but i do like smooth HR.
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Holliday
Holliday seems to be cooling off real fast. Someone else needs to step up
exactly. step it up, lego!
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1.009 winners have at least 1.5
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 16, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
soooo, what'd I miss?
….
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
the complete meltdown of the cardinals and the end of our season
i kid i kid
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
sweet.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
damn
ATG, ramos missed a meatball.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions
whoops
looking at the wrong game. d’oh!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
this will get ugly
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 16, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
there will be blood
average height of our infielders is what, 4’8"? and yes, i’m including Albert here
by Expatcardfan on Sep 16, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
we do need taller infielders.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
welcome to Thurston at 3rd, Lego Man
Move those Lego Legs, it’s going to be a long day.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
lugo is too scary to take out frustration on, so i'd be real careful around pineiro, joe.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Did anyone else notice last night...
Holliday looked like he was trying for a homer on every swing, and getting really pissed when he missed a swing?
JAIME GARCIA
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
are these seeing-eye ground ball singles?
or is jo-el really pitching poorly?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions
both
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 16, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
and bad defense on top of that
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 16, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
they're getting hit hard enough
but this isn’t exactly a range-y infield here
by Expatcardfan on Sep 16, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
of course you won't see that from Piñeiro...
you need the Boogñeiro out there.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
if i were cashman, i would fine posada into next week.
if any of my players got hurt in a bullshit brawl in mid-september in a game that didn’t matter because posada had to bump the jays pitcher like he’s 14 years old, I’d be pissed.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
if the cards plunked two members of an opposing team,
i’d just say better thrown “behind” me than “at” me.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Anyone else notice
How Posada and Carlson got 3 games each for a freakin’ brawl and our pitcher gets 3 games for throwing the ball near David Wright? BULL S#*&!
Tony suggested it
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
so is Jo-El's Gold Glove bid still on?
haha.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
is tony just trying to get the cub fans confident?
maybe he is deliberate losing these games so that he can crush their hearts this weekend
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions
that must be it!
paving the way for 12-2, 10-4, and 9-0 wins this weekend.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
can we go back to being good?
that was more fun.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions
too many tales of Ankiel
6ly, when does Oquendo sit down and whup his lego butt?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
throwing as hard as he can
and just barely getting it to the catcher
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 16, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
well that was fantastic.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
87 mph slider in the middle of the strike zone.
Awesome.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
joel just threw an 87 mph slider right down the middle
they won’t ever hit those!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions
we rule.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
slider fail.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
so piniero opens up and tells his agent that he wants to stay with the cards....
then promptly goes out and tries to prove that this is a one year thing?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions
at least it's *before* the contract.
also that contract better be paying Boog extra. in steaks, or something.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Not really
1 Ks 0 unintentional BBs 0 HRs. These are the games that happen when you strike out no one.
Not afraid to nitpick
gold glove
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
help
I can’t tell if I’m being sarcastic anymore.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Molina, Thurston, Lugo
Is this game making anyone else highly irritable?
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
If we don't win the division...
has there ever been a collapse that big?
Metropolitans?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
BAN please.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Sep 16, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
there's just no way
the cubs will lose 10 games the rest of the year if anything. there’s just no way.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
keep on tempting those GOBs
it’ll be a beautiful winter.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i mean if the magic number was 15-20
i would worry a little. but it’s 10. there’s just no way in hell.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
1100 innings for Yadi
oh, he’ll be fresh for later.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
some cuisines favor it
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
well you would think that by loafing he would be conserving energy
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe that's the game plan.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
step on first!!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Thurston's so scrappy
He just runs straight from home to second, right over the mound, when he hits a double.*
*Note: Thurston doesn’t really ever hit doubles, lol.
he has 17.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
for us
apparently.
I don’t know, there was this bear blocking it.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Why did Thursty just hit the ball?
He must be injured
I so wanted Glaus in there.
sigh.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
hey who said it was thursty's day?
1-1
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions
and a stolen base!
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
first of many!
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 16, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
he had 3.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i ment today
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 16, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
ohhh, now that'd be a sight.
I may need franklins.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
also a first!
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 16, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
hey look. it's a steal.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Jo-El robbed.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
god i hate playing teams with good OF's
Proud to be a member of The Night of the Longest Train Wreck Ever (9/10/09)
They aren't even going to make this one competitive.
I hate this slump. I got that ’06 feeling.
by cloistermaximus on Sep 16, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions
well that's okay
i seem to have good memories of the playoffs in ’06.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 16, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't we do something against the Tigers, or some team like that?
"Baseball has been good to me since I quit trying to play it." - Whitey Herzog
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Sep 16, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
i really feel like this will not turn out like '06
this team is just too good to not go at least .500 the rest of the way… that means that the cubs could not lose more than 1 game out of their last 16… i think that we are ok
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
dear joel -- we can cope with lohse and his amazing intermittent elbow, boggs and
the strike zone of doom, and todd wellemeyer and the vortex of suck, but if you start pulling 4-inning outings, you’re going to tax this bullpen.
get it together, plz.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Thrwo moar strikoutz!
Pitch to contact not working.
jinx ftw
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by YesWeOquendo on Sep 16, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Our team is imploding it seems
shit
The Redbirds are of the highest priority to me... As it should be
after 5 good weeks
a rough one was eminent
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 16, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
or is this one of those testical imploding shit storm?
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 16, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
no, that's not how it works.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i wonder if reading cards talk is wearing off on me
all my reason and logic goes out the window when i lurk over there
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions
i never go there
i won’t even read the comments section on Goold’s columns/blog entries. Both the dialogue and the level of discourse are ridiculous (and not in the Albert way).
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
this just in: CHRIS CARPENTER - FLAW DETECTOR
next exhibit: Mitchell Boggs.
Can we just keep Carp? Please?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
are we indanger of losing him?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
for pitching coach
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
player/coach?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 16, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
6ly, why do we have coaches
Albert helps all the hitters. Carpenter helps all the pitchers.
The infield defense is the only real element that the coaches improve. GOBs know what happens in the outfield.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
oh, Albert. you so ridiculous.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
on 3-0, really, Kelperson?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT