Prelude to Postseason Production
by chuckb on Sep 12, 2009 10:28 AM EDT
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Pujols and Holliday have picked it up in September but they were our best hitters in August as well. The main difference between the 2 months has been the hitting of Ryan Ludwick. Take a look:
| Aug. wOBA | Sept. wOBA | |
|---|---|---|
| Pujols | .459 | .595 |
| Holliday | .391 | .513 |
| Ludwick | .271 | .494 |
| Ryan | .358 | .334 |
| Molina | .335 | .396 |
| Lugo | .320 | .421 |
| Rasmus | .318 | .288 |
| DeRosa | .317 | .257 |
| Schumaker | .316 | .305 |
The major improvement by Ludwick, and unsustainable production from Pujols and Holliday, mask the poor months that DeRosa and Schumaker have had. When the leadoff hitter’s unable to reach base, you’re going to have a hard time scoring runs but another problem is the fact that Brendan Ryan’s been in the 2 hole 14 times over the last 6 weeks. Now, I’ve got no problem w/ him batting first or 2nd against lefties. He’s hit them fairly well for his career. That’s not true, however, for his production against righties. For his career, his splits against righties are..265/.314/.371.
Tony’s tried a lot of guys in the 2 hole this year, w/ Rasmus getting the most opportunities w/ 292 PAs in that spot. Though his OPS is .776 in those 292 PAs, there’s a good argument to be made that perhaps he doesn’t belong in that spot. Still, that .776 OPS is higher than Ryan’s this year – in the 2 hole or not. The real problem, of course, is that Tony’s married to Pujols, Holliday, and Ludwick in the 3, 4, and 5 spots. Lugo in the 2 hole is a good idea if he’s going to use Ryan to lead off against lefties but I’d rather see Holliday or Pujols in the 2 hole w/ the other batting 4th. I’m basing that on Sky Kalkman’s tutorial on optimizing a lineup based on The Book.
Our best hitters ought to be hitting 1st, 2nd, and 4th and, since I like Pujols hitting in the first inning (as Tony does, btw) I’d like to see Pujols 2nd and Holliday 4th. Bat Ludwick 5th and Rasmus 3rd maybe. We could use DeRosa in the 3 hole as well. Nevertheless, getting creative w/ the batting order isn’t going to cure the problems we had in August if Ludwick fails to hit in the postseason. If Ludwick isn’t hitting, teams will just walk Pujols repeatedly (they may do that anyway) and take their chances w/ Holliday. As I’ve said myriad times, I welcome the walks to Pujols since it almost always increases our chances of scoring more runs but that means that Holliday and Ludwick are going to have to come through.
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The real problem, of course, is that Tony’s married to Pujols, Holliday, and Ludwick in the 3, 4, and 5 spots.
How crazy is it that Tony’s problem is sticking to his lineup.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 12, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
to top off the freakiness of Friday
Albert makes top 10 plays. Skip doesn’t.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 12, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yadi-Mo
Once again, no one compares to Yadier – 45 defensive runs saved since 2003
by JBrew on Sep 12, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Ryan has been doing a great job of late in the 2 spot.
The last few games it seems he is constantly on base and making things happen. The last few games have also shown that teams aren’t automatically walking Pujols with a runner on 2nd. I like Ryan’s speed in the 2nd spot because he scores on XBH from 1st. This is huge in the playoffs when we will be in low scoring games.
Could somebody look up Ryans’ OBP for the past month? It seems to me he is taking more walks than in the 1st half, and if he is, he should stay in the two hole.
There is no way we can bat Holliday and Pujols split up from each other. We don’t have the personel to put around them. If we had Shoe, Pujols, Ludwick, Holliday, Rasmus, teams would probably walk Pujols AND Holliday every time they got Shoe and Ludwick out. If our top 2 hitters don’t get a chance to do damage, our lineup doesn’t generate many runs.
by thp0344 on Sep 12, 2009 11:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ryan's OBP in the last month:
If you mean “September”: .324 (9 starts in 10 games)
If you mean “30 games”: .378 (26 starts in 30 games)
by stlfan on Sep 12, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
last month as in August-September
should have been clearer. If Ryan can keep near that base (stay above .360 OBP) he is perfect in the 2 hole with the big bats behind him (or leadoff against lefties).
by thp0344 on Sep 12, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A bit of a tangent
When you brought up
Ryan’s speed in the 2nd spot because he scores on XBH from 1st, it reminded me of how frustrated I am of Oquendo’s lack of aggressiveness in sending runners. Last night is a good illustration. The first time, he held up the runner at 3rd with no outs, but we still didn’t score. We could’ve tied the game at that point. Then he did send the runner which I was glad to see. Sure, Lego was called out, but it was a bad call despite a perfect throw. So we could have won the game with those two runs. Last nights game is just an annecdote. If sending aggressiveness is actually tracked as a season long stat, then I would cite that number. Bad sadly, I can only use what I recall from watching games. And Al always says that Oquendo is the most aggressive in sending ‘em, but my eyes don’t quite agree.
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by totalloser on Sep 12, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
using the old
ball getting to the fielder before the runner gets to 3rd measurement, I thought holding Holliday the first time was the right call. He hesitated on contact because it was a line drive up the middle and that is what cost him the chance to score. Frustration in that situation falls on the next 3 guys not being able to drive him in with nobody out, not on the coach. He made the proper hold, IMO, as Holliday was 2 still about 2 steps away from 3rd when the ball got to the CFer.
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by scoot on Sep 12, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw it a bit differently
I thought the ball was not hit that hard so that it actually took some time to reach the outfielder. But I concede that my view from my couch is very different from the 3rd base coaches view. I already erased the game, else I would be curious to see if indeed you are right about Lego’s position when the ball was caught.
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by totalloser on Sep 12, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's what is baffling to me
the Cardinals are the proud owners of a 100 point OPS split between facing RHP and LHP. Given that our best hitters are largely RH (Pujols, Holliday, Ludwick, DeRosa, Molina) you’d think they’d be hitting LH better but you’d be wrong. There’s a BABIP difference so it could be partially bad luck but the ISO against RHP is .170 and versus LHP it is .130.
I don’t get this. I guess it’s a good thing in that we’re more likely to see a RHP in the playoffs (and in general) than a LHP but it seems very odd to me given what we know about handedness splits.
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by azruavatar on Sep 12, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...but
The Phillies have 2-3 good lefties and the Dodgers 1. Truthfully, not too sure on the other teams.
by stlfan on Sep 12, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
quick and dirty numbers
vs RHP as RH – .275/.342/.457/.799 and .298 BABIP
vs RHP as LH – .266/.336/.414/.750 and .302 BABIP
vs LHP as RH – .246/.328/.401/.729 and .272 BABIP
vs LHP as LH – .201/.267/.280/.547 and .263 BABIP
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 12, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
our lefty hitters this year have been poor
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 12, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
vs RHP as LH
Colby – .827
Skip – .799
Ankiel – .714
our vs LHP as LH is so bad I won’t even want to post it
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 12, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So our RH hitters have a reverse split
and our LH hitters have a normal god awful split.
I’m still not sure if I’d rather face a LHP (based on historical evidence) or a RHP (based on these numbers).
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by azruavatar on Sep 12, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only players that hit LHP well is
Pujols and Holliday everyone else has a sub OPS+ of a 100
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 12, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not as a Cardinal
Only a .644 ops
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 12, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at what point do the Cards look at Hal & make a change?
6ly, why does he still have a job when almost no one can hit any AAAAAA pitcher who happens to be left handed?
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by gdm426 on Sep 12, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because no one wears a cap quite like Hal
and people are afraid of him. Ask any telephones.
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by totalloser on Sep 12, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a damn good question
Three possibly scenarios: this hack away boys strategy is the message and it’s simply no good, or the message is being lost somewhere in translation, or the job of hitting coach doesn’t entail much at all. I don’t see how Hal McRae can maintai his job when he’s at best superfluous.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 12, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's for the whole season though, azru
don’t forget that for about 3 months we HAD to have two of Ankiel, Duncan, Rasmus, and Schumaker in the team, all of whom totally suck against lefties this year, and also Joe Thurston who totally sucks, period (although he actually had a decent split vs lefties for a while). If we didn’t want to play those guys, the only other options were seriously inferior righty bats like Greene and Stavinoha. I expect that is a large part of the discrepency.
Right now, I feel we hit lefties just fine. My bigger concern is PITCHING to lefties (a problem since Phillie has a team full of them, and the potential 4th starter (Smoltz/Lohse/whoever) can’t really get lefties out, and our top 3 starters all have a mild platoon split, IIRC).
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 14, 2009 5:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has this still been bad after the trades?
We still have struggled against lefties, but I hoped it had got a little better.
by thp0344 on Sep 12, 2009 11:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The offense is what worries me
For all the talk about how the offense has improved since the Holliday trade once you get past our 5 spot you can see the opposing pitchers just sigh in relief. Last night was probably our first look at “playoff” type pitching in a while. If Pujols, Holliday and Ludwick get shut down then we are in trouble. But I guess you can say that for any team.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Sep 12, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"playoff pitching"
They is only 2-3 pitchers (Lee, Hamels, maybe somebody from Rockies-Dodgers) who have as good of stuff as Jurrgens has when he is on.
by thp0344 on Sep 12, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Broxton & Kershaw
don’t forget the possibility of Lincecum, Cain & Sanchez being our 1st round matchups, too.
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 14, 2009 5:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I meant Billingsley, not Broxton.
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 14, 2009 5:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm okay with the playoff pitching
as long as what we saw last night wasn’t playoff umpiring.
by Evilfrog on Sep 12, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
truer words have NEVER been said
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 12, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those SOB's
are responsible for my hangover this morning.
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by RiverRat on Sep 12, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine too
I slept until noon today. If this keeps up I might have to start grabbing an ump instead of a franklin.
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 12, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i feel like
This article is spot on with its analysis of our offense. The holliday production has to regress at some point. And since our offensive contributors are quite inconsistent(ludwick, kobe, dero, yadi) it worries me that the regression will happen when we are not playing the pirates. If jair jurrjens can shut us down, a good chunk of our opposition can do so in the playoffs. If we get caught at the wrong time in the lds, we will have a short playoff run. And that will mean the season will have been a monumetal disappointment.
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by tgreenfield on Sep 12, 2009 11:34 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Agree with the concerns and analysis of the offense but
Lincecum, Cain and Happ are the only potential playoff pitchers with a better ERA than Jurrjens (and SF looks to likely be out of the picture at this point). He’s been lights out this year and is generally flying under the radar as to how good he really is. Last night obviously demonstrated this. As an aside, any umpire with that wide a strike zone will shut down most any offense.
by wildman on Sep 12, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 12, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the key is...
To get our CF hitting again. Preferably Rasmus but if Ankiel gets hot than though him in there. We also need to get something out of who ever is playing 3rd. I think it is a bit unfair to ask that to be Glaus at this time of year. So it has to be either from DeRosa or Greene. Honestly I think a few more days off for DeRo to rest his wrist will be the best. But honestly That’s without any real sports medical knowledge.
Skippy plays a big part in this too. But I’m not worried about him. I understand you make some sacrifice for defense with Yadi and Ryan. But we need something out of 3rd base, CF, and 2nd base.
by Evilfrog on Sep 12, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think with derosa's wrist injury
they need to at least give khalil greene a shot to start at 3rd. I think at best Glaus will be good pinch hitter. and it also seems that Ankiel is maybe better as a pinch hitter
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 12, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes on CF
for me it’s Cheese over AnK. I know TLR want’s both to be sharp, but I am afraid that time splitting is hurting Cheese and not helping AnK. I think AnK has gotten enough at bats to get his timing back, unless he is still injured from his collision and we have the usual BOB medical denials. I am ready to give up on AnK. After a brief glimpse of hope, he was returned to his hacking ways. At least Cheese is streaky, AnK is soooo predictable. I do appreciate that AnK has been showing some very nice leather lately. But so has Cheese.
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by totalloser on Sep 12, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's crazy is that both of them seem to have lingering injuries
but I would guess Ankiel is a little more injured, just seems like the guy might still be injured
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 12, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't buy
colby or dero in the three hole. we need some obp that high up in the lineup. and we need as many runners on for albert as possible. i’d rather see something like
2. ludwick
3. holliday
4. pujols
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 12, 2009 12:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
that’s probably what we should be seeing imo too. albert just has better odds of knocking in runs
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 12, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why hasn't Luddy been in the 2hole?
TWSS, there. i got that outta the way for everyone
6ly, every one else has been there when they needed to be “fixed”, so why not have him hit there for a while?
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by gdm426 on Sep 12, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
might as well
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 12, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
won't happen today though
Dicky boy gets the start in right
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by gdm426 on Sep 12, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
luddy is now
protection for the protection
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by scoot on Sep 12, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off topic - we have not lost
even a half game to the Cubs in the standings from August 3 until yesterday. On the 3rd of August, the Cards were idle and the Cubs beat the Rdes 4-2 to pull into a tie for first with us. The next three days we stayed tied and on the 7th we beat Pittsburgh 6-4 and the Cubs lost to the Rockies 6-2. Since then we haven’t looked back. That’s a stretch of 31 games for us and 32 for the Cubs with not one day of lost ground in the standings. Amazing! Now that’s called burying somebody….
Now we need to stay focused and not slip into poor performance in this final push to October. Getting the offense on track will be key for sure.
by wildman on Sep 12, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
still time to get a new hitting coach, heh
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 12, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Derek Goold
Just reported on 101.1 FM that Smotlz felt some discomfort and the club is going to be extra cautious with him. Story to follow over at stltoday.com later.
by Evilfrog on Sep 12, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just showed up on Rotowire too
Crap – I’m going to that game, and Rotowire says Welley’s going to start….
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 12, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leach did too
Smoltz has shoulder tendonitis, expected to miss just that start. Welly in Smoltz’s place. Feel sorry for you, BTown.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Sep 12, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can't smoltz just pitch left handed?
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by rocKStark5 on Sep 12, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs just committed three errors in the top of the 3rd against Cincy
That must have been painful to watch.
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 12, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you and i have a different meaning of the word painful then
i would have used “totally awesome”.
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by rocKStark5 on Sep 12, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Danger of Schadenfreude
I find that GOBs tend to punish folks who engage in that. By no means am I telling other people what to do, but I’ve learned my lesson. cf. 2007 beginning of the season and then how it ended.
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by totalloser on Sep 12, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and we have lift-off...
heh.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 12, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch. Two tough days in a row.
Sigh.
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by totalloser on Sep 13, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha ha
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 12, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just reading the ridiculous giambi post at bcb
What the hell?
The cubs problem is that they dont sign enough aging/old guys? They need more depth at first? Lee isn’t enough?
It’s not like the cubs have a shot in hell of going to the playoffs, which is the ostensible justification for the rockies picking him up in the off off chance they catch a ride to the series.
The cubs problem is that they have enough guys like al in their front office that they make ridiculous moves like signing a giambi type in a loser season to a multi-year deal to assuage whatever demons are chasing them this week.
How about like putting some money into player development instead of not quite superstars that aren’t playing for other teams for very good reasons. Oh, and buy big Z a book on how to not insinuate to national media that he wasn’t really working very hard. Maybe make him write the book.
The cubs are an insulting example of a baseball team this year, I don’t know how anyone could actually want to see a team like that win anything at all.
by dugmartsch on Sep 12, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
eh,
Cubs biggest issues this year have been injury related. Injuries to Dempster, Lilly, Ramirez . It took about 3 months before Lee started hitting for power due to recovery time from wrist surgery.
Sure Bradly has been a big disappointment. And contracts like Soraino’s and Fukudome are bad ones. But that isn’t the reason they had the season they have had.
by Evilfrog on Sep 12, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and baker + pinella = ruined zambrano
“geo” (read: poor man’s yadi) played well over his head last year.
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by rocKStark5 on Sep 12, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Zambrano
how’d he do last night? :)
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by zoomzoomj88 on Sep 12, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Bradley/Soriano/Fukudome contracts will make it pretty difficult for the cubbies
to assemble a really good team without sort of lucking out with dempster and lilly (or were those guys ever considered good prospects?). their general manager is horrible, and the new owners would be insane to continue with hendry. but yeah, their main problem this season has been the injuries, they would have had a shot at the wild card if it weren’t for all the injuries
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 12, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Bradley contract isn't that bad
it’s the Soriano one that will kill them going forward. Bradley’s getting paid more or less what he’s worth.
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 14, 2009 5:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not this season
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 14, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's put up 1.4 WAR so far according to fangraphs
with a hot last couple of weeks it’s not implausible he’ll get close to 2 WAR. That’s about the going rate for a $10m player. Yeah, he’s been a disappointment, but by n means a disaster. He’s getting league-average free agent money and has been slightly-below-league-average.
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 14, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who the fuck cares about those north side losers?
6ly, they are dead in the water & just playing out the schedule. their farm system is a joke & they have too many shitty players for us to worry about them being any kind of a threat for the next half dozen or so seasons.
6ly, forget them, focus on the Birds.
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by gdm426 on Sep 12, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice job Chuck
I’d still like to see Holliday second, Pujols third, Ludwick fourth, and Rasmus fifth, followed by Molina. That kind of OBP in front of Pujols makes me giddy. Plus I would like to see Rasmus run more, and if he is in front of Molina, he should be told to try swiping more bases.
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 12, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh My GOB
The football is gone, THE FOOTBALL IS GONE!!!
Our long VEB nightmare is over!
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 12, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you're welcome
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by gdm426 on Sep 12, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone have a link
to the fox viewing areas for todays game? I’m trying to figure out if I’m going to get to watch today.
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by scoot on Sep 12, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a night game, no?
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Sep 12, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope, its in 26 min on fox
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by rocKStark5 on Sep 12, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3:10 start, i believe
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by scoot on Sep 12, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Try this.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Sep 12, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no go
others?
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by sportsman on Sep 12, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You download stream torrent?
it works for me.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Sep 12, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am just getting the shaft today......
Fox is fox……Had to go to work because of a sick call…mlb audio is blocked on my work comps…..and Toadonalump is broadcasting football….Anybody know of any other radio links?
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by RiverRat on Sep 12, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or video links for that matter?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 12, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FOX where I live is showing White Sox-Angels
Anyone got a linky?
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by zoomzoomj88 on Sep 12, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This may work for some of you,
www.freebaseballradio.com. I am getting slapped down by the man in charge of my work interwebs at the moment.
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by RiverRat on Sep 12, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe this.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Sep 12, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya, websense is a bitch.
"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR
by RiverRat on Sep 12, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The company's program to make sure
that I’m working and not…listening to / watching sports, playing games, etc. I’ve tried proxies, but can’t get around it, and don’t want to press the issue too much.
"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR
by RiverRat on Sep 12, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gettin the game
in SW MO!
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Sep 12, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cubs lose
heh
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 12, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JUST BECAUSE
"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR
by RiverRat on Sep 12, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish TLR was giving Glaus
as many PAs as possible. Although DeRo had a good offensive game Sat., particularly running the bases, I’d like to see if Glaus can play everyday at 3B. Put him in the #2 hole in front of Albert for this lineup:
Skip/Lugo
Glaus
Albert
Holliday
Ludwick
Colby
Yadi
Boog
Pitcher
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by gocards62 on Sep 13, 2009 11:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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