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by chuckb on Sep 10, 2009 11:17 AM EDT
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PrintFirst of all, great stuff by Dave Cameron over at fangraphs re: Albert. In 6 games, his WPA has been 1.38.
Second, there's been some discussion here over the last week about the merits of "pitching to contact" vs. being a strikeout pitcher. The notion is that getting an out on 1 pitch is better than getting strikeouts b/c strikeouts increase pitchers' pitch counts so the best way to have your starter pitch deep into games is to have him "pitch to contact." The problem is that this is a false comparison. Of course, getting an out on 1 pitch is better than getting an out on 3 pitches (provided the 1 pitch doesn't allow base runners to move up or score!) but when a batter puts a ball into play, it doesn't always end up an out. Strikeouts end up as outs nearly 100% of the time.
NL batters have 75,182 ABs so far this season -- 15,516 of which have ended w/ a strikeout. Of the 59,666 balls put in play, 19,468 of them have resulted in base hits (.326). So nearly a third of the balls put in play this season in the NL have led to the batter reaching base successfully. 11% of the base hits have ended in home runs and another 22.7% have resulted in doubles and triples. Exactly 0% of the strikeouts this year in the NL have ended in extra base hits. Additionally, another 766 batters have reached base successfully via the error. All told, nearly 34% of the time a ball is put in play, the batter reaches base successfully and many of those have resulted in extra base hits. That's approximately 34% more often than batters reach base successfully when struck out. (I'll acknowledge that a handful of batters have reached base this season when struck out, due to a passed ball or wild pitch. Still, that number has to be extremely small.) Additionally, there have been 595 sacrifice flies in the NL so far this season. This means, of course, that runners have scored nearly 600 times JUST ON FLY BALLS b/c the ball was put in play.
Additionally, there's the argument that pitching to contact is better than strikeouts b/c sometimes a double play is better than a strikeout. That's true, of course. 2 outs are better than 1. However, the league strikeout % for pitchers is 18.1% The league's DP% for pitchers is 11%. That is to say that the average NL pitcher is 7% more likely to get a strikeout than a double play in a DP situation and the likelihood of a batter reaching base when he hits the ball is 3 times greater than the likelihood of him hitting into a double play. Therefore, in most cases, I'd rather NOT intentionally walk hitters to set up the double play. Why add an extra base runner when a DP just isn't that likely? Among Cards' pitchers, only Joel Pineiro, Kyle McClellan, Blake Hawksworth, and Brad Thompson are more likely to get a DP than a K.
The comparison of a 1-pitch out to a 3-pitch strikeout is therefore incomplete. The best way to limit pitchers' pitch counts is to limit the number of batters they face and the best way to do that is to avoid allowing batters to reach base successfully. Batters have reached base successfully more than 20,000 times so far this season just by putting the ball in play -- 20,234 to be exact. I'd be willing to bet that's 20,000 MORE TIMES than batters have reached base successfully via the strikeout. Anyone want to take that bet? It's hard to score and hard to run up pitch counts when they're making u-turns to the dugout.
Ground balls are good, to be sure, as long as batters are putting the ball in play. Grounders are less likely to end up as extra base hits and hardly ever end up as homers. But they do end up as hits fairly often. All things equal, in a big game, I'd rather have Chris Carpenter and his 6.97 K/9 and 55.4% GB%, or Adam Wainwright and his 7.68 K/9 and 51.5% GB% on the mound than Joel Pineiro and his 4.26 K/9 and 61.2% GB%.
Perhaps this weekend I'll have a chance to get into Derrick Goold's ridiculous article yesterday on the prospect of Matt Holliday receiving some MVP consideration this season. I suppose it's not ridiculous that people might vote for him, but realize that his WAR in the NL is lower than Colby Rasmus's and it's far lower than Manny Ramirez's was last season. I guess I'm not saying it's ridiculous that people might vote for him. I'm saying it's ridiculous to consider him worthy of MVP consideration. Additionally, he points out that Chris Carpenter is putting on a Rick Sutcliffe-like show and may warrant the Cy Young despite having fewer IP, CG, shutouts, WAR, RAR and many other stats than Tim Lincecum. I love Carp as much as the next guy but at some point don't we have to set aside our fandom and evaluate these guys somewhat objectively? Particularly if we're newspaper reporters? I can understand Cards' fans pushing for Carp to win the Cy, but objectively, if the season ended today, he simply doesn't deserve it. 2nd? Maybe. 3rd? Maybe. 4th? No way! Lincecum's the best pitcher in the NL and has demonstrated that throughout the season. Wins or not, he's deserving of the award and it's really difficult to objectively argue otherwise. As a Cards' fan, I'd love to see Carp win it but as someone who also loves intellectual honesty, I have a difficult time stomaching voting for anyone except Lincecum first.
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Honestly
I truly believe that any of Carp, Waino, and Lincecum are deserving of the Cy Young, and I wouldn’t be distressed at any of them winning it. My gut? Same thing that happened in 2004 happens this year: Carp and Waino split the vote (just like the MV3 did in ’04) and Lincecum gets the well-deserved hardware.
According to more involved measures, Lincecum has been enormously valuable, more than two wins higher than Waino or Carp.
He’s notable for his win last year, and his pitching style is, let’s all face it, really cool. He racks up the strikeouts in a way I thought would never happen again after Pedro and Randy Johnson both reached the twilight of their careers.
That said, voters are dumb. Despite the fact that Lincecum is achieving his ERA in the most dominant and sustainable way possible of any of the Cy contenders, the only stat he leads in in the voters minds is K’s. It seems like the award is still his to lose, and a 230 inning, 260+ K year with a 2.3 ERA should be enough to fend off Waino (if he gets to 20 wins, that’s probably another story), and I think Carp is unlikely to win just because his IP total isn’t (and shouldn’t, for the sake of his health and our postseason) going to break 200.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
By Statcorner tRA Carp/Lincecum done the same thing on a rate basis
The IP total is the only real separator.
That and the Pedro/Randy thing is hyperbole, Pedro in ‘99 13.2 K/9 1.56 BB/9. Had 4 straight years higher than what Lincecum is doing now in the NL West. Randy’s career K/9 is still higher than Lincecum’s this year. Verlander is right with him this year in the AL. Mark Prior and Kerry Wood pretty much did the same thing Lincecum is doing.
Not afraid to nitpick
It's amazing to look bat at those numbers
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
That's mind-boggling.
And we lit him up in the desert back in aught-two with 5 ER and 10 hits off the Big Unit over 6 innings. Yet another reason to look back in nostalgia at the Edmonds Era (who went 3-for-4 with a 2-run HR off of Johnson). That series was so satisfying after the aught-one NLDS.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
stop thinking
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* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
astonishing
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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 10, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I just assumed no one would ever K 300 in a season again.
Lincecum seems like he could pull it off one of these years.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Possibly but
Randy K’ed 372 in a season, jus’ sayin.
I would think outside of pitching 250 or 260 innings, Lincecum would have to regain the ability to reach back for 97 98 again, I don’t see his off-speed stuff getting much better than it already is this year and you have to have about a 12 K/9 in 230 innings. That takes a true swing and miss fastball IMO.
Not afraid to nitpick
On the possibility of another 13 K/9 guy
Strasburg has a legitimate chance. He really does have the best stuff ever: 102s on Stalkers.
Not afraid to nitpick
I'll have to see it to believe it.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
The most amazing thing about Randy
is that he did all that with just two pitches (granted, two of the best pitches in baseball history). I’m not sure anyone else in the live-ball era has accumulated THOSE sort of dominating stats without having at least a third pitch (correct me if I’m wrong, baseball history is far from my strong point). Astonishing.
The hard thing for guys like Mike Mussina and (possibly in a few years) Johan, Lincecum, Halladay and the like, is that the late-90s era saw arguably four of the top ten pitchers of ALL TIME (Pedro, Rocket, Unit, Maddux) all plying their trade, plus other guys who’d be sure-thing HOFers in most eras but will only get in as “close thing” guys when their time is due (Schilling, Glavine, maybe Smoltz although I’d argue he’ll probably be fairly unanimous), which kinda raises the bar somewhat. Somebody like Mussina would probably be close to a no-doubter in a pitching-starved era, but given he pitched at the same time as those guys and was clearly not as good (plus might have to share ballots with some of the less clear-cut but still definite HOFers) it’s possible he’ll miss out.
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 4:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Carp is going to win the Cy
I have found most fan’s honest about Tim having a better year so far. But I think Carp will get the Cy due to his story. A story told before. He comes back form 2 years of being on the DL and comes back to dominant. I think this story will resonate in the voters to sway them to vote Carp over Tim. Us going to playoff’s (with hopefully the best record in the league) and the Giants not going will be enough to sway enough votes for Carp over Tim.
Carp will win
Everyone in my east coast office, even the Giants’ fan, think Carp is going to win. For most people, his one-hitter the other day sealed it.
As much as Sabriticians may hate it, the traditional stats—era and wins—still carry a lot of weight, as we learned to our chagrin when Howard rode rbi and hr to an ill-deserved MVP.
And Carp win benefit a lot from finishing better than Lincecum. By October, people tend to forget about what happened in April.
My money is on Carp, and I don’t risk my money based upon bias.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
by Titus Pullo on Sep 10, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
the other thing is that little issue of Not Talking About Carp
Wainwright and Lincecum may have more chances.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 10, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
Others outside the organization are thinking Carp will win it. I mean, on Baseball Tonight on ESPN Radio they were acting like he was a shoe-in. I realize that means relatively nothing, but if enough talking heads think he’s going to win, undoubtedly there are some voters who think that way as well.
Traditional stats and votes
I agree with ya. Cy is determined by BWAA members with two reps from each team voting, so 32 NL ballots of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place. The final score is a weighted sum of the votes, i.e. 5F + 3S + T. Each voter uses her own criteria. So I have to respectfully disagree with churckb’s assessment that
objectively, if the season ended today, he [Carp] simply doesn’t deserve it.As many others have pointed out, there are other objective criteria that voters use to define what is best. Some might even consider “the most dominant player on a playoff caliber team” as a criteria which is a criterion that I personally disagree with, but the playoff caliber team can be pretty objective. And Carp does lead in other stats but not by much. I would prefer to say that it’s arguable that Lincecum is the best NL pitcher up to this point. I hope I am not quarreling too much about semantics.
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by prophetjohn on Sep 10, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Carp wins it if he makes 20 wins
pretty hard for the traditional guys to leave out someone with a ~2.something ERA and 20 wins in favour of someone with a similarly dominant ERA, some more IP and Ks, but considerably fewer wins. I think if he doesn’t make the utterly arbitrary 20 win mark, Lincecum could steal it.
I also think there’s the issue of the more sabr-inclined guys will vote for Lincecum anyway, but the old timer vote may be split between Waino, Carp & Lincecum, so they may take votes off each other.
If Franklin’s ERA stays below 2 and he gets to 40 saves I could see him picking up a 1st place vote or two from the clueless guys.
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 4:47 AM EDT up reply actions
plus
didn’t Lincecum win it last year? they will want to hand it over to Cy Carp
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 10, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
WPA
I know WPA is somewhat flawed but don’t you find it interesting that Carp has a higher WPA then Lincecum in fewer games? I think Carp has been as good as Lincecum and only trails him by 4 games. Both deserve the award and I don’t really care which one wins it.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
Cy Young Predictor
has Waino 1st and Carp 2nd.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/features/cyyoung
"The almighty tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he’s pretty sure you’re screwed" Albert to opposing pitchers.
Yep
And it’s amazing how good of a predictor that has been the last several years.
Sometimes it's hard for me to keep track of the various awards arguments and their salient points re: merit and likelihood
Anyway, it’s still great fun to discuss. Clearly A.D.A.M. and Carp have put together fantastic years so far. At this point I think it’s possible one of them sneaks past Lincecum in the eyes of the voters. I don’t know if I’d put this likelihood above 50% (I probably wouldn’t) but especially given Lincecum’s back troubles and the possibility that he won’t be able to “lead his team down the stretch” as much as Carpenter or Wainwright I can see it happening. I still think it would be hard for either of them to deserve the award over Lincecum, but who knows. It might end up close enough where there’s an argument to be made for more than one pitcher, like 2005 (I’m thinking of Clemens).
It will be very interesting to me to see how Holliday’s MVP votes shake out. I really like Goold’s comparison; Holliday won’t have quite the line that Manny had in their respective stints, but it is surprisingly close. It was maddening, for me, to see so many sports writers and whatnot try to argue that Manny either deserved the MVP or at least deserved to be one of the top vote-getters. Will Holliday get the same attention and treatment?
My guess is no, for a couple reasons. One, Holliday has Albert Pujols on his team and a more ridiculous cast of starting pitchers than Manny had on his team. Two, Manny is Manny, and the Dodgers are in Los Angeles.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Another reason Holliday won't get as much consideration...
Pujols is having a RIDICULOUS year compared to an average Pujols year last year. If Pujols had this season last season Manny wouldn’t have received quite as much attention RE the MVP award.
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
by cardzfanbub on Sep 10, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Pujols has been basically the same player this year as last
More power, less OBP, worse defense.
Smoltz.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 10, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
And that's precisely the reason Albert's so ridiculous
He does the same bloody thing every year. A few more homers this year, a little higher OBP that year…but the net effect every year is, well, ridiculous, of course.
Good gravy, I love watching this man play.
I forget who it was
Someone went through the exercise of cherry-picking his worst season according to each stat, and then presenting those “worst” stats all together - and it still looked ridiculous.
by Andyfantastic on Sep 10, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Partly Generic/Partly baseball-reference.com
If you look at the next to worst season that Albert has put up in individual categories over his career, he still would have finished in the top 8 last year in average, runs, rbi’s, hr, slug, obp, and ops.
Yaz won his triple crown w/ a line of .326/44/121, in 161 games.
El Hombre’s career averages produce a line of .334/43/129, per 162 games
by The former Toris34 on Sep 10, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, I distinctly remember seeing this
in fact, I think it even did it by 7 or so worst months in his whole career and compiled a fictitious “season” that way, thus producing comparatively worse stats than doing it by strict years. Don’t remember if there were any saber stats, but I seem to recall a BA of like .280. Yeah, so Albert at his absolute worst for about a whole season is….a well above average baseball player.
Reminds me
of this old post.
he’s never had an OPS+ under 150, he’s never hit fewer than 30 home runs, and he’s never not pronounced the silent g at the end of the word mang.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
I wonder if that secretly pisses Skip off.
by Andyfantastic on Sep 10, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Skip should just be glad he's along for the ride
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 10, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
truer words were never said
"Ludwick, I could kiss you on the nuts!" - the red baron 7-29-09
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Pujols has been basically the same player this year as last
More power, less OBP, worse defense.
UZR probably isn’t that descriptive on a year-by-year basis (I think even mgl said so – and yeah, I mean descriptive, not predictive), although I’d accept that, subjectively, his defence hasn’t been as good this year, so maybe you’re right.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 10, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
"D-E-F-E-N-C-E"
That’s quite a nice British spelling.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Ehh...
last years numbers only stack up due to the higher AVG. His ISO last year was .296 and this year is .367 (that’s higher than a lot of guys SLG!!!), and his OBP-AVG last year was .105 compared to .119 this season. He is clearly having a more ridiculous year this season than last. The key number is HR’s which are a HUGE draw for the voters, and he’s going to set a career best this year while having nearly the same OBP.
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
by cardzfanbub on Sep 10, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
RBIs man
it’s all about the RBIs.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 10, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
is there a stat for ridiculousity?
Oh that’s right. What ever happened to the AP stat?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 10, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I've had to rethink some of my theoretical assumptions about it
It seems like it is possible for players not named Albert Pujols to temporarily exceed an AP of 1.000. This is kind of like how matter/antimatter particle pairs can be created in the vacuum of space, but still preserve entropy by annihilating each other (or something, I ain’t no Steve Hawking). In the end it still appears that the values will balance out and there is no AP greater than 1, which is Albert’s.
Anyway, I’m mostly leaving it for smarter people than I to come up with a workable AP calculation.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
A bunch of pundits
including heyman and stark, have said their vote would go to waino if the season ended right now
lincecum is great, but he is not the clear cut winner…this year’s race is so close…it will come down to the very end
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
To the END
reminds me of 06 when Carp lost to Webb…Carp turned out a great outing his 3rd to last start and everybody handed him the hardware…then he put up two back to back bad outings (although webb did get lit up his last start, badly).
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Heyman's article today had Carpenter.
Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.
by Cardinals645 on Sep 10, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
When was the last
back to back cy winner? I think voters will want somebody else to win it just for “parity” or whatever.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
Randy Johnson
Back-to-back-to-back-to-back, 1999-2002.
by Andyfantastic on Sep 10, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I was really
drunk back then. Who were the dominate pitchers during that time in the NL, or was he just running away with it? Schilling come to mind, but it’s pretty hazy in here.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
Kevin Brown put up two big seasons for the Dodgers in 99 and 2000
not an earth-shattering FIP, but a genuinely elite one, plus 250-odd IP both years. Probably in the 7 win region, I guess.
Schilling put up two huge years in 01 and 02, but wasn’t as good as Brown the two preceding years. He was a near-10-win pitcher in 02 (for comparison, Lincecum will probably end up somewhere in the 8-win region this year, with a long shot at hitting 9).
Tom Glavine put up three solid years in this time, though by FIP he was a long long way behind the other guys mentioned and had pretty crappy K/BB ratios.
Smoltz had a significant injury every year during this spell (and was closing at the end of it).
Greg Maddux put up strong years (again in the 7-8 win region) in 00 and 01.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 10, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Ran away with it.
Johnson averaged 26 out of 32 1st place votes for the 4-year period.
by southsidepat on Sep 10, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Carp didn't win it in 06 partly for that reason
i.e. “He’s already won it so let’s give it to Webb”.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 10, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
i was running through carps IP so far.
He’s at 160+ with four starts left. If he mixes up some 8-inning games,he won’t make 200 innings, but he’ll break 190.
He’s still going to trail adam and linececum by a lot, but he’ll end up with a respectable total.
I agree, of course, that in the “should-win” cy young adam and carp are probably jockeying for second place. Linececum’s season is just ridiculous.
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by tom s. on Sep 10, 2009 11:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
in Goold's defense
I don’t think he said that Holliday would or should win the MVP; rather, he said that he would get some votes. He also pointed out that voters vote for 10 guys. I don’t think it’s ridiculous for Holliday to get some down-ballot votes. But it would be crazy if Holliday finished in the top 7 or 8, in my opinion.
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
it's really difficult to objectively argue otherwise.
No, actually, it’s not.
Carp has allowed 2 runs or fewer in 17 of 24 starts.
He’s allowed more than three runs twice all year.
Lincecum has allowed 2 runs or fewer in 16 of 28 starts, and has allowed more than three runs 7 times.
Home cookin' at Bake McBlog
yes bc earned runs are the best metric for evaluating pitchers. clearly.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
by tgreenfield on Sep 10, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
You said it, not me
I never mentioned earned runs.
I was responding to the statement that it’s difficult to argue objectively that anyone besides Lincecum should win the Cy.
The fact remains that when Carp starts, he allows 3 or fewer runs 90 percent of the time, and ultimately, run prevention—-not strikeouts, not WAR—-is the name of the game.
I’m not saying Lincecum shouldn’t win, I’m just saying one can argue objectively that Carpenter is a deserving candidate.
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I see this spiraling out of control
Into a ‘what happened’ vs. a ‘what should have happened’ with a little ‘what will happen’ on the side argument.
Not afraid to nitpick
Please, no vivaelpujols jabs
like what happened on BCB! We’re civilized here.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 10, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
is it too early for franklins?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
link?
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 4:50 AM EDT up reply actions
It might not be difficult to argue otherwise.
It would just be difficult to present convincing evidence.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
well, if you start with the assumption that pitching == k's
then this is a true statement.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
Not sure what you're saying.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
let me try to clarify
if FIP-based measures are all you accept as “convincing evidence”, or as a measure of skill, then the TTO events that are used to calculate FIP dominate the “skill” calculations. There are three of these: Home runs, walks, and strikeouts.
And the only one of those that Lincecum is better than Carpenter in is K rate. Carpenter has had a lower walk rate (BB/9), and has given up (slightly) fewer HR/IP. And he has a higher K/BB rate.
And since Carpenter has ALSO given up less runs per inning pitched, it seems unreasonable to say “I’m not convinced carpenter is the better pitcher” unless you only consider K’s to be important, since the only argument in favor of Lincecum is that he K’s more people (and has pitched more innings, but that’s an argument for “most valuable”, not “best”).
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
by SleepyCA on Sep 10, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, that's not true at all
Hazel considers Lincecum to be the better pitcher, because the combination of his TTO skills results in a better expected performance than Carps. It’s not that he has more K’s, it’s the fact that the K advantage that Lincecum has over Carp is of greater value than the Home Run and BB advantage that Carpenter has over Lincecum.
I also find it kind of funny that you mention R/9 innings, yet discount the fact Lincecum has pitched more innings than Carp as a “value” not skill. RA is not skill either. Lincecum has a better tRA and FIP than Carp, meaning he is pitching better and just getting unluckier.
Smoltz.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 10, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Carpenter=Lincecum (for all intents and purposes) by tRA on a rate basis
Both on Statcorner and Fangraphs.
Not afraid to nitpick
If Carpenter=Lincecum in skills,
and Lincecum has 50 more innings…
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
right- hazel accepts FIP assumptions as dogma.
But carpenter puts fewer guys on base than Lincecum, has a higher IFFB rate despite having a lower FB rate, and erases significantly more guys with double plays. Those are good things, and since getting ground balls and IFFB’s are also pitching skills, they should be considered.
Carpenter’s ERA has outperformed his FIP every year since his 2002 surgery, typically by around half a run. I have a hard time believing that he’s been lucky every single year of his Cardinal career. If you do something once, it might be “luck”. if you do it twice, it might be “luck”. If you do it 6 times in a row, it’s probably not “luck”.
I think it’s more likely that the FIP calculation underrates extreme GB pitchers like Carpenter. He’s also operating at the extreme low end of the BB/9 spectrum, so there may be some nonlinearities there that the extremely simplistic FIP equation does not consider.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
FIP (or tRA) SHOULD be expected as dogma
At least until someone properly studies the subject, simply saying that the FIP calculation underrates ground ball pitchers, because Carpenter has outperformed his FIP that last few years, is just not good enough.
I don’t really want to do a full research article (maybe I will later); however, I ran a correlation between ground ball percentage and ERA-FIP for all pitchers this year with over 50 innings pitched, and it was .0007.
Of course, that’s definitely not a study that I would hang my hat on (you would need a larger sample size, and control for other factors like LD% and Strand Rate); however, it’s pretty clear that their is no obvious misvaluing of groundball pitchers.
Smoltz.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 11, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Missing term
I think the way to a better expected RA formula out there would involve fixing the normalizing term in standard FIP. Instead of some league average number like 3.2 (expRA = 3.2+DIPS), you need some term that takes BIP data into account (expRA = BIPPS + DIPS). It wouldn’t surprise me if it turned out that LD% is the only variable needed.
I’m predisposed to thinking that Strand Rate isn’t a predictive skill like LD% and BIP-type in general.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
sorry, that was harsh
I don’t feel like spending any more time on this- i have a shitload of stuff to get done right now- but david gassko has written some excellent stuff at THT regarding the subjects you’ve dismissed here. Might want to check them out.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
I haven't dismissed any subject
If your claiming that FIP underrates Carp, you should provide some proof. Or at least link me to some articles.
Smoltz.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 12, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions
This is the only article I could find by Gassko about groundball pitchers
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-truth-about-the-grounder/
The money quote:
What I don’t want people to think after reading this article is, “ground ball pitchers good” or “ground ball pitchers bad” or anything like that. Because neither is true. There are certain advantages to having a high ground ball rate—like a low home run rate—and certain disadvantages, like a high line drive rate and more unearned runs. The fact is, just like any other pitcher, ground ball pitchers can be successful and unsuccessful, based on how well they do other things, like controlling the strike zone. But the ability to prevent balls from being hit in the air itself is not all that important; certainly not as much as some would like you to believe.
??????
Smoltz.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 12, 2009 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions
FIP (or tRA) SHOULD be expected as dogma
At least until someone properly studies the subject, simply saying that the FIP calculation underrates ground ball pitchers, because Carpenter has outperformed his FIP that last few years, is just not good enough.
I don’t really want to do a full research article (maybe I will later); however, I ran a correlation between ground ball percentage and ERA-FIP for all pitchers this year with over 50 innings pitched, and it was .0007.
Of course, that’s definitely not a study that I would hang my hat on (you would need a larger sample size, and control for other factors like LD% and Strand Rate); however, it’s pretty clear that their is no obvious misvaluing of groundball pitchers.
Smoltz.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 11, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe not convincing, but certainly compelling
Pitcher A
allows more than 2 runs in a game in 43 percent of his starts
Pitcher B
allows more than 2 runs in a game in 29 percent of his starts
Just one data point of many…. but I find it hard to simply dismiss as being worthless
Home cookin' at Bake McBlog
by salvomania on Sep 10, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
OT: I don't always read the P-D boards, but when I do...
I shouldn’t laugh at this, really…
re: the Lugo and Albert Show
Albert was telling Lugo about how fun it is to glare at Ryan. Lugo said sometimes he glares at Ryan in the shower and Brendan gets totally freaked out. (:D face) Good times were had.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
No, no, you should definitely laugh at that.
Because I just pictured it in my head, and nearly fell off my chair.
Hey Boog. Lookin good…
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
by tgreenfield on Sep 10, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
That picture needs to be seen on this board a LOT more.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 10, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean, all I really did was search Julio Lugo Stare
And that ball grabbing demon look popped up
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
by tgreenfield on Sep 10, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
subject line!
this is like a picture of clowns.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 10, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Does Lugo kinda look like Chris Rock there?
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 10, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I see more of this
how do i reach thiiiiss boooog?!
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
by tgreenfield on Sep 10, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't see the Cy race as..
quite so black and white. Wainwright was pretty lucky for the first couple of months while he was giving up walks and hits like nobody’s business, but since May his WHIP is pretty close to 1.00, and he’s trending the right direction. Lincecum (1.02) and Carp (.97) both have WHIP’s around 1.00 for the season the big difference between the two is that Lincecum K’s 10+/9 (Carp 7/9 ) while Carp GB/FB is 2.05 to Lincecums 1.20. According to the rest of your article you’d take the guy that gets the K’s over the guy that gets the GB’s, so it’s not surprising that you pick Lincecum as the better overall pitcher. I see it differently.
BTW – I know that WHIP is a flawed stat due to BABIP, but BABIP is a flawed stat without batted ball detail.
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
by cardzfanbub on Sep 10, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
BABIP is a flawed stuff because its hard to say
really doesnt roll of the tounge…not like WHIP….mmmmm, WHIP
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Sep 10, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
stat, not stuff
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Sep 10, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Who put the IP in the WHIP-BABIP-BABIP
Who put the RP in the VORP-A-WARP-A-WARP
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 10, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
that was awesomely bad.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
That's what I was going for
I’m never afraid to post something bad for the sake of badness.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
wow
do you guys actually pronounce babip like a word? i just say bee ey bee eye pee
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 10, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
so like
“buh-bip”?
that’s ridiculous
i refuse to say that
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by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
In Columbia, MO
it’s pronounced “bay-bip”
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
I say baa-bip. Baa like a sheep.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
we should take an informal survey by location
and map it as in “soda” vs. "pop
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
Um… no… Blue..
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
i am pretty sure that is how it started
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
and why the north won...
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
I would fight for that
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Most people I’ve met call it soda. I’ve met like one person from the south who actually calls everything coke. And they don’t even go here.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I know lots of people who say soda
Coke >> soda >>>>>>>> pop
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Coca-Cola, probably.
But they all drink Mountain Dew anyway.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
No
“Can I get you something to drink?”
“Sure”
“What do you want? Water? Beer? Coke?”
“Coke sounds good.”
“What kind?”
“Well, I’ve got Diet Coke, Dr. Pepper, Sprite, which would you like?”
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
So if I say Soda
Will they bring me Seltzer water?
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Most people will know what you're talking about
I honestly can’t really describe how it makes sense. It doesn’t. But it at least doesn’t sound as ridiculous as pop.
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
True about the pop. My grandmother says pop. It makes me really hate Detroit.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
No it just reinforces my already established hatred.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
god i hate pop
my mom says pop and my dad says sodie
i don’t know how i turned out normal much less a (pseudo?)intellectual
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
what the fuck
kind of twisted bastard of an establishment has diet coke and not coke?
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by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
i live in the south, yo
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by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
True fact.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Depends what part, IMO
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
central
south austin to be exact
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
which is apparently in california
according to my east-texan stepfather
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by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
this is a more appropriate reaction
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by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Eh not sure about Dallas
When I was there it had some elements of the south, but some non elements. I will say I had the best steak of my life there, though.
I’d say Houston, Austin, and the Gulf Coast from Galveston to Louisiana would be considreed southern
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
have you ever been to austin?
because i have no idea how you could lump it into that category
san antonio?
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I haven't, but I've met people from there
So that’s what I’m basing my opinion off of. Feel free to refute.
And San Antonio seems more Mexican to me than southern.
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
never been to san antonio
i’ve heard lots of people call austin “the peoples’ republic of austin”
it’s second only to san francisco in being the gay capital of the us. in fact, it often get numerous san fran references.
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by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I went to school in San Antonio (Trinity)
The first club I ever went to in my life turned out to be a gay bar named The Bonhom Exchange. I was brought there by a guy (who turned out to be gay) who disappeared and was lured there by a girl for whom I had the hots. But then she bailed and I was stuck standing with my back to the wall and just kinda watching things unfold.
I was worried about guys hitting on me, but evidently I was transmitting “hetero” something fierce.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
nothing wrong with gay bars
most of them know when you’re straight. if not, you might have problems
i went to karaoke night at a gay bar here and sang some elton john song. rocket man, i think. good times
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
I wish I knew that at the time
We ended up going there quite a bit. They played the best music. You just had to clear out by 2 or 3 when things started to get a bit extreme.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Louisiana is not The South
Because of all the cajuns.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
At least we don't have
The library masturbator! Take that, midwest!
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh Cleveland.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Aw.
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
The person who was asking for a soda miraculously became the posessor of the sodas in this exchange.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess the last two phrases in the dialogue should be combined without the "well"
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I just found that funny.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
TEXAS IS TEXAS
Texas is not the South.
Austin is a northern enclave embedded in Texas.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
I was surprised. My friend Anna from Cincinatti calls it pop. She doesn’t drink it so it was never annoying.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
But she’s so sweet!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought this was just a Texas thing
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
i live in texas
and i’ve never heard anyone refer to all soda as coke
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
STL is the bastion for Soda in the Midwest
We fight off the Tyranny of Pop from the North and the Red Wave of Coke from the South
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s pretty awesome actually.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Bam
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
"Do you want a coke?"
“Yeah, what do you have?”
That’s usually how it goes. Learn it, love it.
V, b.
So is it like
Can I get a Coke, Make it a Coke
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
That's really funny if you imagine Mitch Hedberg saying it.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I had a friend from texas
ask for a Dr pepper coke while we were in North Carolina.
He got slapped.
Shut up, Fritz™.
Love Dr. Pepper
Almost all they have around here is Mr. Pibb. He didn’t even get his degree!
/Hedberg’d
At least in Alabama it was mostly Dr. Pepper
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Ever get anyone asking
for a “Liter” of cola?
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 11, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
this car gets 50 hectares of kersone to the kilometer!
i’ll show my simpsons fanboyness out.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
What country is this from?
It no longers exists…
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Negative
Copier, and I don’t even know what I call what Kleenex is because I don’t use it.
Not afraid to nitpick
Give me soft drink liberty, or give me death.
(How come New Hampshire gets to have the most bad-ass motto of any state in the union?)
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Carp lives in New Hampshire...
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Proud to be in the "coke" region
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
you would be
ginger…
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
Damn skippy
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
yes. exactly like that.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
where's
the “sodie” option?
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by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
contained within "soda" and limited to south st louis/south county
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
That's soda,
unless you add “pop” to the end. Then you’re in the pop category.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
Me also.
And I grew up in St. Louis, and call it soda. When I moved to Baltimore, people thought I was talking about soda water.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 11, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm mostly shocked this isn't green yet.
do I need to reload?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 10, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
i say the whole thing out
or else no one has a clue what i am talking about…amateurs.
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
For the record
I never actually say “buh-bip”. I always say “bee ay bee eye pee” like you do. But I couldn’t pass up the punnery.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
tongue, not tounge
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 10, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
ha, thanks
i promise i knew that
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
you've ruined everything
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
You keep husing that hword
I do not tink it mean hwat you tink it means.
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
I think it's relatively clear-cut
Tim’s #1, then it’s Carp and Waino. Personally, I’d maybe give #2 to Waino due to extra innings pitched, even though his overall production (esp. by tRA) has been slightly inferior.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
OK you convinced me.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 4:56 AM EDT up reply actions
another unrelated point
can anyone tell me what the run value (+ve or -ve) of a batter hitting a GB (assuming average defence, average conditions, average everything) as opposed to a FB? Obviously this’d have to factor in the fact that ~12% or something of the FB will disappear over the fence (again, everything else being basically average conditions).
I sometimes wonder if GB aren’t a little over-rated – they do go for hits far more than FB, after all…
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
Usually not on GB's...
ITP HR’s usually happen on missed dives where the ball goes to the wall GB’s rarely get to the wall though I suppose a scorcher down the line could happen.
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
by cardzfanbub on Sep 10, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Except in RBI Baseball
I’ve had several grounders go for inside-the-parkers. Happens with pitchers batting usually.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
god i loved those HRs
those chubby little fuckers briskly walking after a rolling grounder to the fence at an even pace…
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Man, I miss RBI baseball
"Baseball has been good to me since I quit trying to play it." - Whitey Herzog
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Sep 10, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I present a pleasing salve for thine nostalgic selves.
www.virtualnes.com has lots and lots of NES games available to play online, in java form. It’s not quite the same as playing with a controller, but for RBI Baseball it works surprisingly well (varies depending on the game). The best part is that they emulate in such a way that it might actually be legal (at the very least they try really hard to make it legal). So it’s not as sketchy as downloading emulators and ROMs of the games.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Can't help you there
Though I suppose it might come out for download on the Wii. Probably would be cheap too since it’s such a small game.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Aw man... I hate my stupid monkey blood.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
emulator
plus new usb controller
bam!
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
nes usb controller*
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
That's one way to go as well
I’ve actually gotten used to using a keyboard for NES games. For SNES it gets more complicated. I can really only play RPG’s and other slower games on an emulator, since I don’t have a controller.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Sounds sweet. I'll have to check it out.
Do they have Baseball Simulator 1.000? That was always my favorite. Gotta love missle line drives carrying the center fielder along and smashing him into the wall!
"Baseball has been good to me since I quit trying to play it." - Whitey Herzog
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Sep 10, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
They do have that one.
It’s a pretty good selection, and they continue to add more.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
not really
so far this year, in the NL, ground balls have been hits 23.3% of the time, fly balls, 21.9%. That’s nto a huge difference. It’s the line drives that kill.
OTOH about 7% of the ground balls that are hit turn into double plays, and none are home runs, while very few fly balls are DPs and about 9% of the fly balls are home runs.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
The topic of Albert and the decade Triple Crown came up yesterday...
It was noted that his only competition (from either league) is Ichiro in the batting average department. I looked to see how close it actually is and found that it’s really, really close.
Albert is sitting at .334 right this second, while Ichiro is sitting at .333. To be more exact, Albert is 1693 for 5068 for an average of .33405683, while Ichiro is 2001 for 6009 for an average of .3330005.
I applied Albert’s average to Ichiro’s number of at-bats to see how far “ahead” Albert is. It comes out to 2007.34729 hits for Ichiro. So with an actual total of 2001, he’s only 6 to 7 hits behind Albert’s pace.
It should be interesting to see how it plays out over the final month.
V, b.
by LukeMP1186 on Sep 10, 2009 12:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
amazingly consistent hitters
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Sep 10, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Context
Albert Pujols has a higher batting average than the man touted as one of the greatest contact hitters of all-time. RIDICULOUS.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Methinks you meant
2007.34729 hits for Albert, not Ichiro.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 10, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Youthinks incorrectly...
2007.34729 hits is the number Ichiro would need in his 6009 at-bats to have the same average as Albert. He only has 2001, there fore he’s 6 to 7 hits off of Albert’s pace.
If Albert had roughly 2007 hits in his 5068 at-bats, his career average would be nearly .400.
V, b.
Um
I thought you were looking at what Albert’s hit # would be based on Ichiro’s # of ABs. That would be 2007+ hits for Albert, with Ichiro’s ABs. So Ichiro would be off 6-7 hits with only 2001. I know it’s just semantics….and we get the same result.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 10, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not
just creat a Cy Young formula and weight the meaningful areas? But the first time a 8-15 picher wins it then all hell will break lose.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Sep 10, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions
On the Cy
Carp isn’t done, he’s getting frickin better. Never, never has he had the ability to reach back and dial up 96-98 like he’s been doing lately. It’s just unfair. His cruise control is 3 plus pitches, then he dials that up when he needs it? There’s no possible way to account for 3 pitches like that…even if you’re sitting on one of them you probably won’t hit it if you get it. He’s gonna close this season out with a bang and steal this thing from Lincecum.
Not afraid to nitpick
then he tells the media that he enjoys effing up hitters.
Unless it’s a certain situation late when you can lose the game or change the game I’m going to come after you. I’m not wasting pitches. I’m trying to get strike one, strike two, strike three as fast as I can, or get you to put the ball in play and let my guys work behind me. When you do that it puts (the defense) on the offensive. You’ve got to make a decision what you’re going to do. That’s when it gets fun.
bad. ass.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 10, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Carpenter enjoys destroying your psyche.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
This is why they gave Carp the long-term deal
Everybody was concerned about the injury history, but Duncan HAD to have this attitude on the staff.
Probably for good reason.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
It's pretty incredible
that we will still probably get a good return on that contract, even after he missed 2 freaking years.
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
Carp is the single reason we'll be over the top this season, IMO
Around the table, Duncan asked each of his starters to share something they used to motivate or measure themselves. Joel Piñeiro explained how he tries to “out-pitch” the opposing starter. Kyle Lohse talked about “being prepared” for each start, and joked recently that he should have “stressed staying healthy.” Adam Wainwright said he explained why number-based goals are futile and how he couldn’t be content with, say, 14 wins if a 15th is possible.
When it was the ace’s turn, Carpenter set the tone.
“Dunc pointed out the talent level that we have and that we shouldn’t be satisfied too easily,” said Wainwright […] “He went through the group and asked us what the goal of the staff should be. That’s where Carp said, ’We’re going to be on the same page from Day 1.’ We’re going to go out and watch sides. We’re going to do things the way we used to do it. We’re going to do things as a group.”
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
would it be against VEB directives to transcribe it more realistically?
hahaha
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
"Before every AB I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and..."
“…ripping his still beating heart from his chest and devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wife, children, and entire family. I then let the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-holy ground from which I deliver the first pitch.”
Or something like that.
P.S. I reserve the right to use that as my sig.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
by thepainguy on Sep 10, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wonder about you, painguy.
Actually I was thinking of inserting “fuck”, “fucking”, and “motherfucking” every other word. And perhaps a random “shit.”
Your comment sounds like what goes on in Motte’s head. Until he quiets the beast with a fastball.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Trying to keep it clean
I don’t wanna be like you and get banned. ;-)
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
if that's clean, I don't want to see the unplugged version!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
It's officially my sig, now
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
posters with long sigs irk me
…………………………
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
intended
the skinny thread helps
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Or the sick, twisted version
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
haha
something is wrong with our society when ripping a heart out of someone’s chest through their throat is less vulgar than saying “fuck” repeatedly
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I was hoping someone would notice
I’m going to be standing over here. in case the blogging is coming from inside the house.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 11, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
All sex is violence
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
CLEAR THE MECHANISM!!!
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
Of course
He’s the salty old sailor of the bunch
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 10, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
It just can't.
“Carpenter said Wainwright is there to always remind him that a fastball on the inside edge of the plate can’t miss because, in a phrase that’s like a joke shared between best friends, “it just can’t.”"
And Wainwright says 30% of his pitches are the one seam sinker from Pineiro .Wow.
once you go pack, you don't go back.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I dearly hope that no one making the decisions
in the Front Office handed out a 65M dollar extension so they could have his attitude.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
I'll do it for league minimum!
As long as the players don’t punch back
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 10, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll take a beating for $400k
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Mulder, is that you?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
But, he's a Proven Veteran who knows how to win.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
We joke about this stuff
but people say it with a straight (internet) face and it makes me want to slam my fingers in a door to distract from the mental anguish of reading this kind of nonsense.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
Looking at you, Al Hrabosky!
About every time I hear him talk about a pitcher who is a “winner,” it drives me silly. If he wants to say that meaning something intangible or because he’s simply a good pitcher, than okay… but often it’s in the context of a guy’s ability to rack up a good W/L total. Which is just… wow. Wrong may not be harsh enough.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 10, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
A "winner" in my eyes
Is some one that can still compete when he doesn’t have his best stuff
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 10, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
That's why Wins = Cy Young
It makes so much sense now.
Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.
by Cardinals645 on Sep 10, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the way it went down
Papa Dunc made it clear to everyone that they had to sign Carp just because of his attitude.
I thought it was a questionable decision at the time, but I’m starting to wonder.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
But a 5 year extension
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Based on attitude?
I don’t think so. I’m not saying they weren’t enamored with his attitude, but don’t you think it was mainly b/c of the pitching?
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
Yes, but
The results intrigued them but the mechanics concerned them.
The attitude broke the tie.
P.S. I have some current, overhead, HD footage of Carp where his mechanics look better and that I will post at some point. However, the issue is that…
1. He’s a hard thrower (and I think that makes a difference).
2. His body is now officially a mess.
I’d be much less concerned if he had turned into a soft tosser. While I love to see him run it up to 95, I cringe every time he does.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Could you provide a reference
on this demand from Duncan?
No,but it happened
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Just curious....
…but didn’t you partially make your first buck screaming about how the Carp extension was a mistake?
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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 10, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
note-I'm asking not to be a pain-in-the-ass
…but rather because in this comment it seems your thinking has changed in some way. Maybe I’m missing something, but I am curious.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 10, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, but
He’s still an extremely high risk guy and could flame out at any moment. There’s also the question of whether he’s really worth an effective $40 million per year when you’re getting similar numbers from Wainer and Pineiro for much less.
However, on the positive side there’s always the question of Carp love…
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
Question 2
Do you have an endless supply of Carp Love pics queued up?
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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 10, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
see above
Now I really, really wonder about thepainguy.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I'm focused on the chick, not the Carp
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Although it's funny
My in-laws have a place out at Innsbrook. The grass carp in the lake have become my White Whale. They are huge and fight like crazy (and also need to be thinned out so the bass will thrive). I’m doing my damnest to catch one, and have invested probably $500 in the effort.
My younger son is similarly obsessed.
So stick that in your ’puter and crunch it.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Just a warning
Troy McClure’s career almost didn’t recover from his alleged fish fetish.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i caught one in a local pond as a kid
It was an epic battle against it. I was a grassy hill and nearly dragged me into the pond. Took me at least 30 minutes to get it out.
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 10, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I hooked into a small, 10 or 15 pounder once
I dropped a Zara Spook on its head and it hit out of reflex.
Now I’m after Mongo (or even Junior since it’s been a few years).
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
ignore the subject line and
twss
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I had the same thought
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
It is what it is
And I am what I am.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
No, but I do have Google and the Internets
All three of them.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
That my friend is a smokin' hot, naked female human woman
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
I think it's supposed to be a fish
As in “Carp love”?
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 11, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, remember that I'm mostly just reporting what happened and why
I still stand by my original post that it was probably a bad deal due to the injury risk.
Imagine how much less we would be paying him now as a reclamation project.
Maybe a couple million?
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
if lincecum's injury causes him to miss a couple starts or not pitch well
and waino pitches 4 more games like he did yesterday, he wins…if they both pitch well down the stretch, i have a feeling waino will win it, though tim probably should
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
The Cy Young Award is
often not given to the best pitcher. Lincecum is the best pitcher, but if Waino ends up with 20 wins and Lincecum 14, Lincecum is not getting the award.
Especially
if the Giants don’t make the playoffs, which, as we all know, is a contributing factor to at least some of the voters.
Every time there's a post about Carp
…over in the “related Fanshots” sidebar, I see “Chris Carpenter looks like he’ll be ‘out for a while,’ LaRussa says” and I freak out.
Lincecum's Back Spasms
He missed his last start, but is improving according to the AP. Nonetheless, this could impact the race if he misses a handful of starts or is ineffective because of the back basms. I hope neither of these things happen, but it would quite probably level the playing field between he and Carp.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
use the rocker chair for your video games, young Timmy.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
His IP total is still over 200, thanks to his higher !P per start.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
¡Viva!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
BAB!P
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 10, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this being done
Just so he faces Colorado and LA?
by Merry CRasmus on Sep 10, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
There's some speculation of that, but the utility of such a shuffle was debunked on BtB.
Plus, why wouldn’t they just say, “we’re bumping him to face teams we’re in the race against.”
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Holliday devoured by wolves...
…only to return from the dead three days later to him 45 HRs and OPS eleventy-billion, capturing the MVP and the hearts of the nations of the world. Children laugh, lions lie with lambs, cancer is cured, and world peace is declared.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
This is like a TV Guide snynposis of a movie I'd really like to watch.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
A Dog Took My Face And Gave Me A Better Face To Change The World: The Celeste Cunningham Story
by brackenthebox on Sep 10, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
The dog gave her a better face?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Wasn't that basically the plot of the last Matrix movie?
God it was horrible…
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
I think that entire movie was made just for the "Deus Ex Machina" pun.
At least I choose to believe that to protect my sanity. The pun thing also explains why Tim Burton bothered to sign onto the Planet of the Apes remake.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Maybe wishful thinking on my part
I was making a run for fantasy league championship and then Adam Jones, Beckham, and now Lincecum get hurt, and I am now stuck in 3rd place.
by Merry CRasmus on Sep 10, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i leave the sabr stats to other people
AP’s worst numbers
R:99
H:177
2B:33
3B:0
HR:32
RBI:103
BB:69
K:93
SB:1
AVG:.314
OBP:.394
SLG:.568
OPS:.955
His best #s
R:137
H:212
2B:51(twice)
3B:4
HR:49
RBI:137
BB:104(current)
K:50
SB:16
AVG:.359
OBP:.462
SLG:.698(current)
OPS:1.148(current)
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
I think the way it was done in the past
was to take his 6 worst months, and add them together to approximate a season’s worth of PAs. I think the result was something similar to what Carlos Beltran can put up…
Albert Pujols is ridiculous.
At his worst
he’s 2008 Ryan Ludwick, which is really, really fucking ridiculous.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
But with fewer strikeouts and more walks.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 10, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Innings pitched and wins
These are always the two wildcard stats in the eyes of the voters when it comes to Cy Youngs.
In 2002, Pedro went 20-4 with a 2.26 ERA/2.24 FIP with 239 K in 199.1 innings.
He lost the Cy to Zito who was 23-5 with a 2.75 ERA/3.87 FIP with 182 K in 229.1.
The only numbers Zito didn’t best Pedro in—wins and innings (and BABIP).
In 2007, the AL Cy Young was basically a toss up between Beckett and Sabathia. Beckett: 20-7/3.27 ERA/3.08 FIP/200.2 innings, 194 K; Sabathia 19-7/3.21 ERA/3.14 FIP/241.1 innings, 209 K. The tiebreak was innings pitched.
For that reason alone, with Carpenter only at 166 innings right now. Even if Lincecum misses another start, Carpenter isn’t going to catch his 200 innings pitched. And it’s tough to give it to Wainwright, who may lead all three in wins and innings, but have overall the worst peripheral stats of the bunch.
All in all, I think Lincecum deserves it. There may be some splitting of the Cardinal vote too that aids him (on ballots where Lincecum is voted 2nd between the other two). But I think Wainwright, at this point, has a better shot to win the vote (over Carpenter) if he gets to 20 wins.
The Cardinals have a tough stretch of games coming up—it might all play out on its own.
(The only other voter bias, which shouldn’t factor into play this year is W/L ratio, which affected Randy Johnson who had far superior numbers to Clemens in 2004 but had a 16-14 record, and Clemens the next year, who had comparable stats to Carp but had a 13-8 record.)
you forget
Cain is also having a damn good season, who will take votes from timmy
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
I think it is going to be really close
I’d have to go with Lincecum right now, but the gap has been closing really fast. Carp could definitely get there with a few more A+ starts. I’m not sure Waino can close the gap. No matter how they go with it they are going to have an excellent choice.
by Merry CRasmus on Sep 10, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I thing W/L ratio...
very well could be a factor. Carp is at 16/3 (5.1/1) and Lincecum 13/5 (2.6/1). Carpenters win ratio is pretty much double Lincecum’s, and considering the offensive disparity I’d consider Lincecum more likely to rack up L’s than Carp at this point. It probably shouldn’t factor in, but it likely will.
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
Lincecum has 5 more starts at this point,
to go along with 200.1 innings. Assuming no more back problems, and 5 wins with an average of 7 innings and 8 Ks per start, he would finish with an 18-5 record, and about 235ish innings and 273 Ks. Fairly impressive, but if Waino and Carp finish out with 4-5 more wins each, they’ll each have at least 20 wins (Waino could have as many as 22). The voting will be close, and A.D.A.M and Carp could cancel each other out, but I still see one of our guys winning (whether deserved or not). I think Lincecum’s delivery puts a lot of strain on his back, and I’m betting he has more issues before the season is over.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 10, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions
OT: Wainer's mechanics
FWIW, the picture at the top of the page is a perfect example of why Wainer’s mechanics make me nervous. Look at his his Pitching Arm Side elbow is both above and behind his shoulder in the Inverted V position.
This isn’t always problematic, but IMO it’s a cause for concern.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
yea that just looks painful
can’t see the rotator cuff isn’t being strained with that motion
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
can't see how
hopefully its never a problem
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
So far...
I may do a piece on him.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
Indeed
Though the consistent velocity year to year is a good sign for his shoulder. Tommy John isn’t the worst thing in the world.
Not afraid to nitpick
Maintaining velocity is a good sign
Also, just because you get to that position it doesn’t automatically mean you’re going to have a timing problem.
But it does up the odds.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
Heh
I was wondering if anybody was going to comment on that. I thought “Oh no this reminds me of Anthony Reyes AGH.”
There, now I’ve added an Anthony Reyes mention to stir things up even more!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Fortunately, Reyes' Inverted W was much worse...
…and it led to a definite timing problem. Wainer’s more on the borderline.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
Looking at that picture, it's still kind of hard for me to imagine how/why he would look like that in a still photo
Reyes has such weird mechanics.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Like Mark Prior...
…Reyes was taught (by Tom House who was channeling Paul Nyman) to scap load hard and high by breaking his hands with his elbows.
Breaking the hands with the elbows may be the single most dangerous cue out there.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
if you stare too long
he almost looks like he’s left handed with his shirt on backwards
by brackenthebox on Sep 10, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
It's definitely one of the strangest pics I've ever seen
But still pics of pitchers taken at the right moment will tend to do that.
Brandon McCarthy also almost always seems to look a bit bizarre.
Maybe it’s partly because he’s so gangly but also because he’s got the same mechanical flaw. That lets him generate more force, but also generates more torque and thus bizarre body positions.
I don’t think it’s an accident that you never find bizarre-looking pictures of Maddux and Ryan (at least when they are pitching).
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
I don’t think it’s an accident that you never find bizarre-looking pictures of Maddux and Ryan (at least when they are pitching).
As opposed to when they’re breaking Robin Ventura’s face?
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
I dropped the parens in there specifically b/c of those pics
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Did Ventura get beaten up by Maddux, too?
Poor Robin. Bummer.
I thought that was Nolan Ryan who dealt that ass-whooping.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
i've always meant to ask this
why “inverted W” and not “M”
by brackenthebox on Sep 10, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Because that's what Paul Nyman called it and still refers to it
I’m just sticking with his terminology.
Inverted L is also someone else’s term.
The only one I came up with was Inverted V. I thought that better fit the pattern than did “carat”.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Because that emphasizes the "inverted" part
Which is the whole thing.
Smoltz.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 10, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
True
But a minor point.
That may be the original reason.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
So what you're saying is
If a pitcher ever gets into a “M” position during his throwing motion, don’t draft/sign/trade for him?
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 10, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
No, but be aware of the risks
Pay close attention to his timing and run away if there is even a hint of elbow and shoulder problems (e.g. recent velocity problems).
FWIW, the Inverted W, combined with an over-reliance on the slider, are the root cause of Josh Kinney’s problems.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
I know my opinion carries an enormous weight
But I support this way of phrasing things. Yay E-five.
Not afraid to nitpick
These guys can be great and very valuable for a while
But you can’t count on them or know when they are going to blow up.
That’s why I say we should enjoy Carp when he’s healthy, but not count on him to be our number one.
I used to be more absolutist about this, but Oakland has had some success using up problematic guys and then dumping them or selling high (e.g. Zito and Mulder) right before the fall.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
But you can’t count on them or know when they are going to blow up.
or why they blow up.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
Or the Padres with Peavy
Or the Twins with Santana, or the Braves with Smoltz etc etc etc.
Not afraid to nitpick
so, he's a 1 WASaBi player?
nice
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Still Dreaming
After yesterdays start I thought it’d a good time to take a look back at the Community Projections for Adam Wainwright. Interesting thread with some talk of trading the Walrus and a few people predicting Cy Young consideration for Wagonmaker.
RB isn’t the biggest fan of these predictions but he played along. I tried to dissuade his fears of A.D.A.M. getting overlooked for the award and you know what, no one wake me up because I’m still dreaming. Final results are here and I guess our rose colored glasses weren’t rosy enough.
"There are three things the average man thinks he can do better than anybody else: build a fire, run a hotel and manage a baseball team."- Rocky Bridges
by That's a Winner on Sep 10, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions
Haha!
From that thread
“"Buster Olney hears from some scouts who think Mark Mulder could be the “hidden gem" of this year’s free agent class. Mulder’s likely to throw for scouts within a couple weeks.”"
Shut up, Fritz™.
If Mark Mulder was a stock, he'd be Enron circa 2001. And Buster Olney would be Kenneth Lay.
I have no idea why he cannot extract himself from Mulder’s nuts, but he has been throwing this headline out there for over a year.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
That's a great way of putting it
Well done!
by Merry CRasmus on Sep 10, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Ex.
Since December of 2008, Olney has been on this Mulder trip.
He posted about Mulder in March, and on July 8th, 2009, Olney was yet again shilling for Mulder’s agent. He posted again on Mulder in september as well.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Perhaps he thinks
that if he keeps saying it, it will come true.
Seriously though, I do believe the Buster reports a lot of what he hears, and considering how many retreads continue to get interest from teams, I wouldn’t be surprised that he keeps hearing rumors of Mulder coming back from his various sources. That doesn’t mean he should report it all the time like he does, but he certainly could be hearing it.
In a similar vein, think of how many pro teams recycle head coaches who haven’t had success? I mean Dick Jauron has like 2 winning seasons in his career, yet continues to get jobs. Mike Dunleavy has had 3 different teams quit on him completely and he’s a coach AND a GM for the worst franchise in the NBA. It’s the same thing with veteran pitchers, imo.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Tell me again why you're not a moderator?
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 10, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never been asked
and while I would enjoy putting up a couple of posts a week, this site is run so well currently that until I’m asked by one of the mods to join as a moderator, I’m not going to actively seek it out — they have enough to do without answering emails like mine.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Carp's legacy
I love Lincecum so I wouldn’t be all that upset if he won, but I really think this would do a ton to cement Chris Carpenter’s legacy as a Cardinal for the long term. I’d be thrilled to see him get a 2nd one, probably moreso than any other individual award given before. Especially after all the crap he’s been through.
Us who lived through it will always know how good Carp was. I just am not sure history will do him justice, only because he spent half his career battling injury. Our uber-sabermetrically inclined children and grandchildren will pull up his stats, see his comps to Brad Penny, Erik Hanson, and John Lackey and think grandpa is crazy for talking Chris Carpenter up. Well grandpa isn’t crazy….at least not in this case. The stats aren’t ever going to do Carpenter justice, but maybe a 2nd Cy Young award will.
I had similar thoughts earlier...
Carp would likely be discussed among the best of all time had he spent as much time healthy as he has injured. His last two healthy seasons have been utter domination!
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
I just am not sure history will do him justice, only because he spent half his career battling injury.
Also, he was pretty mediocre in Toronto. He only really got good when he came to the NL.
I suspect history will treat him about right – he’s a guy who’s had about 3 genuinely dominant seasons in a fairly long career. He’s great now, but I don’t think he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as the Smoltz’s of this world.
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 5:14 AM EDT up reply actions
What if he goes into the bullpen at age 38
and racks up 200 career saves and retires at 43? If he pitches another three full seasons he’ll wind up with over 150 wins probably. If he’s close to this dominant over that stretch and has 5 great years in the bullpen, his ERA+ will closely mirror Smoltz’s, and he’ll probably have another World Series ring to show for it.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
200 saves in 5 years is very hard work
especially for a guy who’s had so many injury issues – he’d have to be fully healthy, able to pitch back-to-back days (questionable at that age), and playing for a seriously good team.
So I don’t think it’s at all likely. Still, if he did all of that, he’s a borderline HOFer, and perhaps actually even better than that (he’s probably in the Tom Glavine division).
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
K's vs. Groundouts
Thanks for restating something that is often overlooked, chuck. Yes, it would be awesome if every single pitcher could induce weak contact on the 1st/2nd pitch of an AB and get groundouts like a machine. But the world does not work this way, as pitchers of this breed are about as rare as Nationals fans.
The real split is not between efficient and inefficient, it’s effective and ineffective. People who throw a lot of strikes and rack up K’s and weak contact are good pitchers. Pitchers who throw a lot of strikes but give up a lot of hard hit balls are bad ones. Pitchers who can’t throw strikes at all are also bad ones. The second two pitcher types are more likely to allow baserunners, which is the best way to drive up a pitch count.
This all brings us to Carpenter, and why I think he may actually be a near-perfect pitcher. He has outstanding control (meaning the ability to throw strikes) and superb command (the ability to direct your best version, or at least a really good version, of a pitch to a specific location) of three pitches. This means he simply won’t throw many pitches into hittable regions of the strike zone and won’t walk many. If this was all he had, he’d be a very good pitcher, but not necessarily a great one. However, he combines these skills with phenomenal pitch quality. Simply put, the dude’s stuff is nasty as hell. All of his pitches move tremendously, and again he can direct that movement to exact locations. He’s a pitcher who can simply dominate a lineup and do it with an absurdly low pitch count, and not because he pitches to contact (though he very well may believe he does) but because he avoids walks while sacrificing nothing in terms of pitch quality. What a shame that he’s not been able to have a full career due to his many injuries.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 10, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think his idea of pitch to contact...
is “I’m not going to fool you with a pitch that’s going to dive way out of the zone. I’m going to throw it in the zone, and you’re not going to be able to do anything with it.”
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
Which is Why...
…I will take Carp over Lincecum every day. It’s all about the ’tude, the Bob Gibson ’tude.
;=8)
My hovercraft is full of eels!
:=8O
can you imagine lincecum fighting Ryan Ludwick?
and winning? no chance.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
Gibson.
Mmmmmm, good.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 10, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Lincecum's got a GREAT attitude IMO
doesn’t seem overly worried about anything, just goes out there, has fun, and dominates.
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 5:15 AM EDT up reply actions
If we're talking about the
“perfect pitcher”, we’re talking about Greg Maddux. Period. Carp’s current season actually measures up quite well with Maddux’s first Cy Young season in 1992 with the Cubs, except for one thing — innings. And the reason why Maddux had more innings is because he was completely injury free for pretty much his entire career:
- Nineteen seasons of 30+ starts
- Led the NL in Games started 7 different times
- Were it not for the strike of ‘94 he would have had 18 straight seasons of 30+ starts, and in all of those years, he didn’t miss his turn in the rotation one single time.
- Led the NL in Innings pitched for 5 straight seasons.
- Career Innings per start = 6.767 (740 career games started)
- Career K/9 of 6.03, Career GB% of 53.5%, Career K/BB of 3.37. Career ERA+ of 132.
- 18 career Gold Gloves (not that he was that good every year, but he was the best fundamentally at fielding the pitching position that I have ever seen).
Most of his starts lasted fewer than 120 minutes when he was in Atlanta, and that’s before they put in the rules designed to speed up the game. His defense was always ready to play because he worked quickly and made hitters make things happen early in counts.
That’s the perfect pitcher in my mind. Takes the ball every 5th day, is never injured, gets a similar amount of ground balls and strikeouts, works quickly, and works into the 7th inning in nearly every start.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Sep 10, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You just can't argue with any of this, but it never hurt Maddux
That he consistently had a 25 inch strike zone to throw to either. I kid a little here, but only a little. Still, he’s far and away my favorite non-Cardinal pitcher of all time.
i love it
my dad and i used to laugh about the Maddux boxscores all the time, because it was always 8innings, 4 hits, 1 bb, 1 er, 78 pitches, gametime 2:03
by Expatcardfan on Sep 10, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure
but Tommy Glavine took advantage of umpires sitting on the inside shoulder and pitching at a weird angle to get strikes that were 2 inches off the black on the outside corner. Roger Clemens juiced. I could go on and on with the other pitchers of this era…
Any pitcher of Maddux’s talent is going to get the benefit of the doubt on borderline calls, because the umpire KNOWS that they placed that ball there on purpose and that they can hit that spot 95 times out of 100 if that’s where they want it. Getting calls that this isn’t “lucky”, it’s having the innate talent to be able to throw the ball exactly where you want it. Regardless, it has nothing to do with his durability, which was my main point of the post: If you’re looking for the perfect pitcher, you better get one that is durable and doesn’t get hurt, because that’s the #1 problem with pitchers in general.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Maddux is unquestionably one of the top 10 pitchers of all time
so IMO even if he wasn’t benefitting from those calls (and is there even evidence that Maddux/Glavine got more questionable strikes than other guys of that era? Without pitchFX I’m guessing it’d be hard to prove) he’d still be a clear HOFer.
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
The Giants are
the 1980s Astros two of the top 5 pitchers in the NL and not going to make the playoffs
I don't think Cain is close to being in the top 5 pitchers in the NL
Better pitchers than Matt Cain (off the top of my head, and not including guys like Derek Lowe who’s maybe only arguably better/worse/similar standard):
Lincecum
Wainwright
Carpenter
Santana
Vasquez
Johnson
Harden
Gallardo
some guy who plays for Arizona, I forgot his name
Webb (injured, admittedly)
Billingsley
Jimenez
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 5:20 AM EDT up reply actions
You forgot Kershaw
who I think has eclipsed Cain as well. If he gets his walk rate down to a league average level, he’s going to be a scary good.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
I didn't forget him, I just wasn't 100% certain he was ahead of Cain
on balance I’d much rather have Kershaw but I only went for guys who are unquestionably, definitively, provably better. I don’t think anyone could conceivably argue that Cain is better than any of those guys above. I agree with you that he’s not better than Clayton Kershaw either, mind you, but I guess it could conceivably be argued.
He (and Derek Lowe, and Pineiro) were guys I considered sticking on that list.
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 5:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Mr Glass?
Someone needs to photoshop TG’s face on this pic…
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
that's perfect with your avatar.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I just don't see Lincecum winning it two years in a row
unless the Giants make the playoffs. they will want to either give the Cy Young award to Carp or Wainwright, it will be interesting to see if they value wins and innings pitched more, or better stats. I’m guessing they’ll give it to Carp
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 10, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions
sorry to interrupt this post (again)...
JAIME GARCIA!!
That is all.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Got my tee in the mail the other day
Looks great!
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 10, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Good to hear
I knew you were coming to the game this weekend right?
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 10, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
Very quick trip to STL and back…get in around 9:30 on Friday night, leave around 1 or 2 on Sunday.
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 10, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
figured out what section yet?
I’m at Fri and Sat games in the LF lower level. I think 168 Friday and 171 Saturday, but I might have those backwards. Never met a VEBer.
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
I think we're in the Champions Club
But I’ll be all over the stadium, just soaking it in
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 10, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you going to go the stadium early, try to catch BP?
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
Not sure
I’m at the discretion of the people I’m going with (my cousin and her friends). I would like to soak in as much as I possibly can, though there’s been talk of touring the Budweiser brewery before the game.
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 10, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Or this
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 10, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
nice!
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 5:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I was at the game last night
and he looked very good.
No-hitter through 4, threw lots of first-pitch strikes…K’d 6, didn’t give up a fly ball out until the 4th inning. Would’ve gone 7 or 8 innings if the game hadn’t been delayed by rain and lightning.
He even hit a double in the 2nd inning.
Not sure why he couldn’t be called up, when the time is right (Memphis out of the playoffs)…he didn’t really labor against any batter, except for Blake DeWitt and other Isotopes hitter, who each fouled off 6-7 pitches. He was economical overall.
PJ Walters going tonight.
awesome
Poor little red riding peej. I glanced at his opponents’ line, it looks like he’s being thrown to the wolves again.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I'm hopeful
but I have a feeling he’ll get shelled tonight. I’ll be at the game tonight, so I’ll try to post another brief summary tomorrow.
looking forward to it!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
However, the league strikeout % for pitchers is 18.1% The league’s DP% for pitchers is 11%. That is to say that the average NL pitcher is 7% more likely to get a strikeout than a double play in a DP situation
sorry chuckb, but my phd is rearing its ugly head and i can’t shut it up.
if the league strikeout % is 18.1% and the DP % is 11%, then the average NL pitcher is not 7% more likely to get a strikeout — he is 65% more likely to.
that is a good point
if you are simply comparing K to DP
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 10, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
which is what he was doing (unless i misread it, in which case, i apologize
for bringing it up)
technically, it's not indefensible given that the original units are %
if he had said:
However, the league strikeout % for pitchers is 18.1$ The league’s DP% for pitchers is 11$. That is to say that the average NL pitcher is 7$ more likely to get a strikeout than a double play in a DP situation
we’d all be happy (or confused).
This is why dimensionless units suck.
by brackenthebox on Sep 10, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I prefer "3.5 Felonius_Monk_Units", personally.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 5:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd also like to know
the percentage of strikeouts with a runner on 1st instead of in all at-bats. (But then again not all DP start with a runner on 1st.)
Perhaps the league strikeout percentage is only 10% (just picked a number) with a runner on 1st (hence pitching out of the stretch).
good point
he also has to get two strikeouts to achieve the same goal. .181^2 = 3.2%, so he’s about 240% more likely to get a double play than strike out both hitters.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
To be honest
this analysis isn’t correct either. He should be looking at the rate of strikeouts in double play situations, which is basically any time a hitter is on. Do hitters strike out at the same rate with runners on as they do with the bases empty?
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Well, than you would have some selective sampling
Guys who strike out fewer hitters tend to allow more base runners, thus the K% with runners on would be deflated. I don’t know how big the affect would be though.
Smoltz.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 10, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
That's true
but to compare them 1 to 1, you have to do this, and you’d also have to find out the odds of a average pitcher striking out two guys vs. just getting a double play, since one situation makes two outs and the other only one. The entire nature of this evaluation is going to be selectively sampled if it’s done right, which may not make it worthwhile in the first place.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Strike Outs Only Give you 1 Out;
put the ball in play and, if u have runners on, u can get mootiple outs.
i dunno, an out is an out, as long as our pitchers keep getting them I don’t care what kind of out it is.
My hovercraft is full of eels!
:=8O
it's a wash
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 10, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
OT: Andres Torres for 2010 5th OFer
Andres Torres is a guy I’d love to see wearing the Birds on the Bat. He might be a great fit if they decide to let Ankiel walk because he’s cheap but talented and his swing is getting a lot better. Plus he’s crazy fast, like the birds of old and is a great guy.
Here are some of his greatest hits from this year, including a bomb last night.
- 4/15 HR to CF (same exact spot as on 9/9t)
Full Disclosure: I am president of his fan club and am totally biased because he is a friend and I have worked with him on his hitting.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
One more self-reply...
Chris, do you like his LH or RH swing better?
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
RH by far
We have talked over the past year about how he’s not as comfortable (and I think he thinks more) from the left side. His coaches want him on that side mostly because he’s one or two steps closer to first base. However, his swing is much better and smoother (and less think-y) from the right side. He’s got great foot speed so I would trade off the added distance from 1B for the improved consistency.
I need to look at his splits to see if this holds up. It’s just based on conversations right now.
In general, he started out with everyone wanting him to be Ichiro. I’ve been working with him to get more power back into his swing and make him more of a speed guy with modest power, more along the lines of Shane Victorino.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Look at the Splits
I assume Andres hits LH to try to gain an advantage against LH pitchers.
What I found in his splits says that my hunch was correct and that this isn’t working…
LH v. RHP: BA=.173 OPS=.603
RH v. LHP: BA=.333 OPS=1.051
Like I said, I would just have him hit RH.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
not seen much of him
but according to UZR his defence is crazy good, too.
However, my concern is that I wouldn’t want to be paying $$$$ for positions we have got lots of cover for internally. If you’ve got Holliday (or DeRo) in LF, Ras in CF, Lud in RF basically full-time, than at most you need a utility corner guy (Craig) and a CF option, ideally who can hit LH (Jay?) to fill-in. You could even get away with not having a 5th guy and letting Schu be the CF backup (though I’m not keen on that idea). If we have an extra $2m to spend I’d rather use it to upgrade the bullpen.
Still, Torres sounds like a great option for a team who needs a 4th OF.
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 5:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think he needs $2MM to be happy
He’s making the minimum right now, and he’d kill to be on the same team as Pujols.
This probably makes more sense if we don’t resign Holliday, because he also plays a lot of LF.
Also, he is SF’s standard defensive replacement.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and letting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
If he would sign for the league minimum he's definitely better than Jon Jay
and so we should get him. I agree. I just wonder if we offer the minimum, SF offer the minimum, where will he end up?
And, in fact, is he even a FA next year? I could see him getting $1m or more, given his stats.
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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
I’m new to the whole contract, CBA deal.
I know he was a free agent and a NRI and I assume he just signed a one year deal.
Cots says…
Andres Torres of
1 year/$0.4M (2009)
* 1 year/$0.4M (2009)
o signed for 2009 by SF as a free agent (minor-league contract)
o contract purchased by San Francisco 4/4/09
* ML service: 1.115
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and letting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
I'm just glad we know that photo was take an 8:16 PM
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 10, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
*taken at
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 10, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
hey, 'restoring the rosters' is done
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
k
1. Rickey Henderson – C
2. John Candy – CF
3. Jon (from Jon and Kate + 8) – 1B
4. John Goodman (he did play Ruth) RF
5. Halle Berry (why not?) anywhere she wants
6. Matt Holliday – LF
7. Ozzie Osborne – SS
8. Rick Vaughn – P
9. Smalls from the Sandlot – 2B
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
All time movie lineup??
1. Willie Mays Hayes – CF
2. Marla Hooch – 2B
3. Pedro Cerano – RF
4. Crash Davis – C
5. Mr. Baseball Jack Elliot 1B
6. Bobby Rayburn – LF
7. Roger Dorn – 3B
8. Rick Vaughn – P
9. SS?
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
SS-Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez
"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols
I thought he was a CF
Although who am I kidding, the kid could play all nine positions at once
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 10, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
except in the bigs where he is a bench player....
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
What about that monkey who could play 3B in the Joey from Friends movie?
I hope that sentence made a lick of sense
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 10, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
i googled "matt leblanc baseball" and came up with
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
That's the one
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 10, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Where in the holy hell
is Roy Hobbs? I think he gets the nod over Bobby Rayburn in LF.
Also, you have to take the Yankee first baseman from Major League, Haywood. I mean, he led the league in nose hair, and that’s hard to do as a Yankee player.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Roy Hobbs
played RF (at least, after he shot by Barbara Hershey).
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 10, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
"was" shot
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 10, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Pitcher should be
Henry “Author” Wiggen.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 10, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I love me some Jack Elliot
He can consistently hit the shuuto now.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I hadn't paid a lick of attention to the Jon and Kate thing
But I was stunned to discover how ugly that Jon guy is. He’s talking shit now?
Not afraid to nitpick
never seen it...
but that HORRIBLE DATED bob haircut kate sports has been single handedly been brought back because of her…I hated it when it was in fashion the first time around in 1998.
And as such….I am going as “Jon plus Chainsaw minus 9” for Halloween.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
lol
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 10, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not worse than this thing
It’s as though women try to make themselves look unattractive with that.
Not afraid to nitpick
She's hiding something
Antennae of a third eye.
Seriously, I don’t get it why women do things that make them look less hot. I think it’s stylists seeing if they can put one over on women.
“What if we could convince them that burlap is really cool…”
Spants, I need your help on this one. Of course you sound like you may be the kind of person who’s immune to this.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
I am, in fact, immune to this.
However, it’s obvious to me why women do everything that they do. They’re competing with, and showing off for, other women. I’m not really into that as I don’t care what other women think of me.
I’m not saying that women don’t want to look good to men, but that men don’t give a shit whether your sunglasses are $10, $75, or $300 Diors, etc.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
again, crazy ex gf
had a monthly budget of $600 for hair and botox. at age 29. and again, there is a reason we refer to her as crazy ex gf. she also had a weird fetish for $300 sunglasses
by Expatcardfan on Sep 10, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, I know you're upset, and the really hurt you, but
I would appreciate it if we could be a little more careful when tossing around insults about people who like $300 sunglasses.
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Sep 11, 2009 5:20 AM EDT up reply actions
My sunglasses are expensive, too.
But not for show-off reasons.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
"competing with, and showing off for, other women"
I have always suspected that this was at least part of it. Guys who go for trendy fashion (if they exist, I’m not convinced) are not the kind of guy that a woman would want to be with anyway.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I’ll help. We think it’s cute. Because we think it’s cute, we think boys think it’s cute. Apparently we are wrong sometimes. I, personally, have no idea what guys like so I dress and do my hair how I want to.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
In most cases...
…you’re good with men if.
1. You’re showing some leg.
2. You have long hair.
3. You’re wearing a dress or skirt.
4. You’re showing some boobage.
Anything more than that is lost on men.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
The hair thing upsets me. I can’t grow my hair out that long or I look weird. So does the cleavage thing, that isn’t happening on me.
I do have nice legs though.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Then you're good to go
1 out of 4 is sufficient.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
My wife
just chopped her hair off for locks of love. Ten inches gone, just like that. It’s still should length, so it’s not too bad, but…
It’s been like a month and I’m still not used to it.
Shut up, Fritz™.
I mean I don’t have super short hair. It’s really short in the back but the rest is still long enough to put in a small pnytail.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Ponytails are hot
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
This is like a little, spunky-looking half pnytail on the top of my head. I don’t think it’s what you’re thinking.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I know what you're talking about
That’s seriously good enough for most men
All you need is a little bounce.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
I love short hair on women.
Maybe not GI Jane short, but well above shoulder length is great.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Sep 10, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s encouraging.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as it's not too butch
No buzz cuts, please.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
It's like this
Gosh using the sunject line is weird.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Except blonde.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice
Posh is hot, and her hair is hot, but someone needs to buy her a pizza or something.
I don’t know any guys who like the bony, anorexic look.
Give me some curves, please.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
I don’t look like the rest of her. My top half might a little.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 5:30 AM EDT up reply actions
like Kanye's girl...
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
that 'future' chick in the VW commercial
she was saucy.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 10, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell yes.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
I was unconvinced until that last look.
…even forgot she was a ginger.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 10, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Who?
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Not a fan of that look
Back in my prime, I wasn’t at all into Grace Jones.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
she
looks good in a bikini but i am not a fan of her overall look…
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
The body's smokin but I can't get past the "hair"
I also HATE tattoos on women.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
well
And then there's a tattoo that makes you question humanity
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I do remember being stunned by her
Wasn’t there a video where she was blowing on a trombone?
That was weird.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and letting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Even simpler, ask these questions
Is it possible that your hairstyle will look utterly ridiculous when you look back on this <10 years from now?
Do you smell bad?
Is it possible to describe your current appearance as “baggy”?
Are you wrapped in a burka?
If you answer no to these questions, what extra you do to primp up is mostly irrelevant to most guys. For more detail, see The Best Page in the Universe. Especially the pregnant looking dress thing.
Not afraid to nitpick
1. No
2. No
3. No
4. No
Okay I’m set.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny website. I’m still wearing Hollister though, no matter what you say.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I wear baseball hats. I think I look good in them and people have told me I do so I like wearing them.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
My roommate last year looked awful in them. It was sad.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey I have a pink Cardinals hat with Colby’s Signature on it. I feel like that is awesome.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Black.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing wrong with it
Wear it with pride.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Oh I do. I walk around campus in that hat like I’m the coolest person ever because Colby Rasmus signed my hat.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Interest in sports is all that matters
I had soccer practice for my 7th grade girls tonight. You’d be amazed at what they show up wearing.
Some are dressed all in pink, for God’s sake.
But at the end of the day, I’m just happy they are there and playing hard.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
I like pink but I also like sports, it’s the perfect combination.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I for one think that's awesome
I encourage it in my daughters.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
...while playing sports
Of course this may have something to do with why they all absolutely refuse to head the ball.
And sometimes shriek and turn when it looks like the ball is going to be kicked into them.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Sorry if this is a mainstream reference but you’ve lost me.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
He has a girlfriend? I’m heartbroken.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh. Good. My plan can still work then.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Me or her? Her, definitely. Me, I’m 20. That’s not jailbait.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Her.
I know you’re in college. You’ve mentioned it before. Plus, well, your screenname…
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
I could have been a super genius… although it’s probably pretty obvious that’s not me.
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Clearly don’t know much about recent college rankings.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Are you not drinking yourself into a stupor...
after that game tonight? I would be unconscious already.
V, b.
I don’t drink much. And I’m in my dorm. I’m an RA in a Freshman dorm, alcohol would not be a good idea.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
My Freshman RA was solid
bribe him with booze and drugs
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I mean, I don’t want to bust anyone but I just don’t drink a lot in general so I see no reason to do it when it could get me fired too.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
i understand
Do you guys have good off campus housing?
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Very good. I like being an RA though. I want to be an RA on the Theta hall next year.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
i could never see myself being an RA
I like my privacy
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
You get your own room. That’s like the number one reason I did it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
They looked funny on her. Even her boyfriend thought so. It’s something to do with the size of her head I think.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
May have had a big nose
I love my wife (most of the time), but hats don’t work for her.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
I have a gigantic head and hats look ok on me
Of course, I’m not a chick, so this may not apply
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
That's what you think
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Thank you very much
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
That's what she said
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
I think if anything she would have had a small head.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I have a freakishly enormous head
once went to a cricket match and this guy, a colleague of my dad’s, bought us all sunhats. They fit everyone else and mine was basically perched amusingly right on the top of my head…
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 5:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Indeed
Plus it’s a “Hey I’m not going to ask why the runner is going back to the base on a flyball” signal.
Not afraid to nitpick
Um… I’m not sure I understand this. Does this mean a girl in a baseball hat is a signal to ask her baseball questions?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Am I supposed to answer this?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
A girl in a baseball hat is approximately 1/10 as likely to be utterly clueless about sports. This is a good thing.
Not afraid to nitpick
What if it has nothing to do with baseball? I have a green and pink Clemson hat, an orange hat that says clemson girls… best in the world, and then three hats baseball team hats, but what about the first two?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
After deliberation
Pink hat of the school: 1/4 as likely to be utterly clueless about sports.
Non-sports related: 1/3 as likely to be utterly clueless about sports.
Not afraid to nitpick
I was told there would be no math.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 11, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
So the pink school hat makes them more likely to know nothing about sports?
Mine’s green with pink writing.
How about camo sorority hats? I’ll be buying one of those soon. When I get more money.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
More likely than a BaseballTeam hat yeah
But less likely to be a sports dumbass than the average non-hat wearing girl. So that’s "BaseballTeam hat" > "Pink hat" (though a Rasmus signature totally mitigates this) > "no hat" in terms of probability of knowing about sports.
I’m discussing women’s fashion on a baseball blog with strangers at 11PM on a Thursday night when I should be drunk at a bar analyzing these details in person…or at the very least I could be productive by studying for the LSAT I’m taking in 2 weeks. But no, what am I doing with my life?
Not afraid to nitpick
I may be considered a stranger. I’m not on here a lot. I went into mourning after the Trade that shall not be named because it causes me pain and hung out exclusively on LGT during that time.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Let’s Go Tribe! Gosh don’t you know your SBN abbreviations?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
two Night Court refereneces
that is SO cool!
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
This is common.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm guessing it's a Clemson blog
Smoltz.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 11, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
They don’t have on of those.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I know everything about everyone here
How else could I make up a lineup?
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Hats on girls can be awesome
I don’t even mind the Cuban dictator hat.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Some girls can pull it off
For me at least.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
You apparently haven't talked to them?
Aside from it being ugly, the people who wear them are the female version of douches.
Not afraid to nitpick
my douche test for girls
Is I take a picture of them than see if they suck in their cheeks
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
What if they are making fun of the male douches?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
But this is what I love to do. It’s so funny. And I look terrible and I know that but it’s hilarious.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Usually I smile when someone takes my picture, for the record.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I think normal. What is a duckface? Maybe we’re talking about two different things.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve never done that in my life.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
No
At this point in life, all I’m doing is watching.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Oh god I love Maddox
Still, five (?) years later, “I am better than your kids” will make me laugh until I cry.
Ding ding!
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
Wow, what a page
I have worn crocs, but that is because they were pretty functional for a vacation. Plus I bought the awesome, off-road kind.
The tit curtain thing is dead on.
I’m also a neck guy, so the vagina shirt thing is also true for me.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
I hate Crocs with a flaming passion.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i have a pair for doing work outside
But sometimes I go to public wearing them not thinking. I feel so embarrassed. I normally judge girls by the quality of their shoes.
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 10, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I have over 50 pairs at college. I think I may pass that test.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I have 50 pairs of shoes.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Red flag
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
I just like shoes.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot
But I’m not judging you.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
No it just reinforces my already established hatred.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Shoes are another thing women go overboard on
I like the high heels, within reason*, but I could care less about brands.
- I don’t like them all complicated.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
i dont mind a girls shoe collection
I appreciate nice looking shoes on a girl
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 10, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I just like shoes.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm married and have 4 kids, so I'm past the point of caring
It’s all function for me.
Plus, I’ll play the contrarian just to make my daughter cringe.
Yes, I’m that guy.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
So you wear Croc's out of spite?
I find them to be poor shoes
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 10, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I wore them for all of a 7-day vacation once and liked them
I do normally wear Tevas, but Crocs work better when you are wrangling kids.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Reefs work better
when you’re drinking bottled beer.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
sandal's with bottle cap opener
I have a pair of these and think how gross they really are. I walk around over shit in them all day than put the bottl on the opener at the bottom of the sandal
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 10, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
A friend of mine
thinks they’re nasty. “What if you step in shit?” he asks. “I have two feet,” I say.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
Pointy shoes about two years ago
man, I hated pointy shoes on women.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 5:28 AM EDT up reply actions
VERY weird look
Reminded me of the Wicked Witch of the West.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and letting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Morrissey called. He wants his pompadour back.
And he says to take the extensions off it, too. They make it look dreadful.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
I think Jon's a bit of a douche, but Kate strikes me as a bitch
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
You're right, they aren't inter-related
His douchey-ness is probably mostly independent of her bitchiness, but I’d bet he does some of it to spite her and/or to show he isn’t whipped.
Each is their own, messed-up, person.
Too bad for the kids.
P.S. My kids loved that show until recently.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
i tried watching recently
and holy crap. I’d go nuts if I were him, also. Hopefully that man attempts to enjoy life again.
There needs to be an Ed Hardy support group.
by Expatcardfan on Sep 10, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
She's trying to mommy him, which doesn't fly very well
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
watching that show was a shuddering vision of what my life could have looked like
if i had stayed with one or two of the women I’ve dated in my life. But look at me now – I’m home alone reading a baseball blog! Sadly, I consider this a win.
by Expatcardfan on Sep 10, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Exception: Unless you're sick
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Ed Hardy...
…(or whoever) has done us all a HUGE favor by making it so easy to pick douches out from a mile away.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
i'm still waiting for our fake teams tournament
ex-Pirates
hurt Mets
MLB brothers
MLB fathers/sons
all-tilde team
guys named Ryan
guys with unisex names
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I'm intrigued
Like…. Homer Bailey?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
CoCo Crisp
"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR
Kiko Calero
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
oh screw that
Blake Hawksworth
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Yes. Also could double as a
soap opera name or an action figure of some kind.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
the Cardinals would make a good superhero movie
or a horror movie.
or a horror movie about superheroes.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Clay Zavada
There’s another player I’m forgetting with an unfortunate name. Tis eluding me. I’m pretty sure no one is named Popup McGee or something…
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
stubby clapp?
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Dizzy Dean
"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR
His parents hated him.
"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR
pretty sure "rusty" wasn't the given name.
kuntz was not really a choice.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
They had to have seen it coming, right?
"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR
And if I'm not mistaken,
he’s a ginger. That’s just cold.
"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
"If you disrespect the Baseball Gods, you'll get slapped." - TLR
Randy Wolf
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
oh of course
Angel Pagan
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
hiram bocachica
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
VEB lineup
1. vivaelpujols 2B
2. azruavatar CF
3. chuckb 3B
4. lboros 1B
5. spants LF
6. DanUpBaby C
7. the red baron SS
8. Alxfritz P
9. gdm426 RF
You always put the retarded kid in RF
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 10, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
low blow
"Ludwick, I could kiss you on the nuts!" - the red baron 7-29-09
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
I assume you mean the crack I made at gdm?
At least he’s starting! You’re coming off the bench, brotha!
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 10, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I am playing for the other team!
"Ludwick, I could kiss you on the nuts!" - the red baron 7-29-09
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
wait, that didn't come out right
"Ludwick, I could kiss you on the nuts!" - the red baron 7-29-09
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Not that there's anything wrong with that
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
I'm not even on the fucking team?
And I’m not hitting 4th either? I’m the FOUR STICK for Pete’s sake!!!
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
You think you can unseat lb from the cleanup spot? I'd like to see you try
If you’d like, we can bat you 4th for our minor league affiliate, Viva El Redbirdos
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 10, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
he assumed it refered to golf
Sooner is managing the team, correct?
I’m offering my services via contract for any mood and anxiety related disorders that may arise. Cant be any other licensed mental health professionals on the board..
Of course Sooner is managing
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 10, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
From his gut and by the seat of his pants
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Gotta be Hardcore Legend
Especially after he “closed out” the story of Chris Duncan getting traded
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 10, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I would like to be the 2nd LOOGY.
I am right-handed.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 5:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Better than Randy Flores!
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Sweet! I made the cut.
I promise I don’t have lego legs.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
Hmm we don't have the budget to build a separate locker room right now, unfortunately
Open (j)d-wallet!
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 10, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess this makes me... (being evil and all)
Fritz’s agent who you know will make it impossible to resign him with out over paying just because he had a career year and even though you know he will regress next year and you’ll end up throwing $16 mil with a 35 year old pitcher who can’t get throw 5 innings…
im getting you.
a 6 year $70 mil deal…
2010 – $8 mil
2011 -$10 mil
2012 – $10 mil
2013 – $12 mil
2014 – $14 mil
2015 – $16 mil
I like it.
But I insist on a sushi spread in the locker room and penthouse suites on all road trips.
Now go get me those bacon and vodka endorsements!
Shut up, Fritz™.
Bacon-flavored vodka
mmmmm
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 10, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Did I tell you about the bacon-flavored fudge brownies my girls once made with my mom?
It was kind of weird, but it was also tons of awesome.
P.S. I wish I could figure out what they did. I assume the pan wasn’t cleaned enough.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
I made
bacon chocolate chip cookies last winter. I ate a few and gave the rest away. I’ve never felt so gluttonous as when I ate and made those cookies.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
You're the most awesome woman I've ever "met"
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
The key to
the cookies being awesome is to use bacon fat in lieu of some of the butter.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
holy crap that could be a bit awesome
the key to good tasting chocolate anything is salt
by Expatcardfan on Sep 10, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I also made
these last winter. Coarse sea salt sprinkled on top is the key.
If you need the salt, you should buy better chocolate. But I agree that the flavors play well together.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
I've made those too
They’re soul-enriching, but my wife thought I was insane for spending two days to make cookies.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Sep 10, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
They're amazing!
I’m totally going to make them again this winter.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
I think that may be what she did
That was my first thought when I tasted them; that there was some bacon-flavored lard in there.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Any chance you can
translate this?
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 10, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Oooh touche
Hrm who plays CF then?
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
All the ladies say I am smooth
so can I play CF?
I don’t wanna be on the bench!
"Ludwick, I could kiss you on the nuts!" - the red baron 7-29-09
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
It's an offday so here's some offtopic
The female runner from South Africa that was being investigated has male and female sex organs. I wouldn’t want to be the person who tries to draw a line in the sand on this case.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
Just like Rick Sutcliffe!
Full circle, people!
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Sep 10, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am very disappointed in my fellow VEB'ers
"Ludwick, I could kiss you on the nuts!" - the red baron 7-29-09
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Rick Sutcliffe is a hermaphadite jokes don't go over as well as I thought they would.
huh.
Shut up, Fritz™.
I bet they rule her ineligible for womens' competition
And she’s probably not good enough to compete with the men.
Bam. Career over.
I am SO surprised
Not.
P.S. Hermaphrodites are hot. Just look at Jamie Lee Curtis.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
She's a he
Medical reports indicate she has no ovaries, but rather has internal male testes, which are producing large amounts of testosterone.
This settles it for me.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
well technically she has parts from both genders
but obviously the hormones do give her a competitive advantage over other females
She's a she only cosmetically
Where it matters (hormones), she’s a he.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
i think they can be used to carry luggage
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 10, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
In college
there was a running joke in my group of friends about “super vaginas”. Our theory was that when women have to have hysterectomies that they basically wind up with a big gaping cavern in their abdomen. It was good for storing everything from small children to handguns to flares to wallets, etc.
We were a classy bunch.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
i've heard, though
it’s not a clown car
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
So true...
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
My kids love that show
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
My boss is obsessed with them.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 10, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
that only took 14 hours
VEB comes through
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 10, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
you are missing like 5 kids there
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I was told there would be no math!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
and shes pregnant again LOL
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions
wow even that cut off 2 kids
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions
So, by extension,
when a man loses a testicle, his scrot-
I’m stopping right there.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
Yes, game over
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Might be able to carry some spare change?
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Or beers
Did anyone see that video?
Gross.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
i hear that you can get one as an aftermarket add on to your
Mitsubishi Galant now.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Vaginas are the effect of feminity, not the cause
She’s a man, man.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Femininity isn't the issue. Femaleness is.
So, if a guy has a vagina he’s a man?
In the end, she’s intersexual, as several women in the Olympics have been.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
I should have said feminization
As in hormonal feminization.
I think transsexuals can compete, maybe even in the Olympics, but “women” have to have the machinery whacked and have been on hormones for some period of time.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Transsexuals
identify as the opposite gender. Intersexuality has a combination of male and female sexual or physical features.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
Way to win it for the boys
I just needed someone to Franklin it.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
And that is why you fail - Yoda
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
pssh...girls...
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
I'm shutting up now
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Where it matters...
…from the perspective of sports.
As we know, men can make anything work when it comes to sex.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
"I'm a guy. You give me a two popsicle sticks and a rubber band and I'll find a way to fuck it like a filthy MacGyver!"
Not afraid to nitpick
Is it just me...
…or is that table giving anyone else kind of a sultry, pouty, over the shoulder look?
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Jamie Lee Curtis is not a hermaphrodite
in fact, it’s not really considered a clinically or socially accurate term to use for human beings with ambiguous or intersex genitalia any more. Just sayin’.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 5:47 AM EDT up reply actions
So I headed out for lunch today
I live in San Francisco. Left the office, walked up the street. I was talking to my mom on the phone. Saw a hot chick, checked her out for a split second, looked at the guy she was with, moved on with life. Happens a thousand times a day, right?
OH SHIZ DOUBLE TAKE the guy was Manny Ramirez. I was like three steps past them before my brain fully registered it. Turned around and looked — indeed, today I passed Manny on the street. I am still recovering from being starstruck.
That chick had to be pretty hot
Not to notice Manny first and crazy hair.
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 10, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
6ly I can kind of understand the draw
But there’s Brian Barton hair and there’s the nest on Manny’s head.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I just got home from Waterbar in San Francisco
Where Manny was hanging with same hot chick and several douche’s not named Ryan Braun. Everybody was giving Manny shit and he was enjoying it. Talking to everybody and signing autographs. The guy really likes being hated.
NorCal CARDS FAN
Life is to short for hate
I would of tried to talk to him if he was open to it
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 10, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Put the pie down and step away from the supervillain!
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Similar thing happened to me, only it wasn't the attractive woman that got my attention.
I was in Paris, walking down the Champs Elysees, and I saw this guy who kinda looked like Kevin Smith. Man, he sure does look like him I thought. He was with his wife and a young daughter. As we passed he noticed me looking at him, and gave me kind of a weird face, as if to say “why are you looking at me” or perhaps it was “don’t stop and talk to me I’m on vacation” because it was absolutely Kevin Smith. I turned after I passed him and he was wearing a hockey jersey with the name “Harley Quinn” on the back.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
NW Arkansas
puts up 4 in the top of the second to go up 4-1 on Springfield. Lynn at 46 pitches through 2 innings.
I simply do not agree that ERA is too highly a looked at statistic
This being said, Carp has the BEST ERA so there very much is and objective way to say he deserves the cy young! Not to mention the rest of his stats are also kickass
The Redbirds are of the highest priority to me... As it should be
that video andi found
may be the most Booglicious thing I’ve seen so far. I’ve never seen anyone so casually nuts. It’s amazing.
I started laughing around the time I noticed Red Schoendienst and TLR standing in the background… probably shaking their heads, hoping these kids will get off their lawn.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Brendan Ryan is Dark Helmet
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 10, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know how to make animated gifs
or I would post the slow-motion sequence.
He’s such a goober, but on the field he moves like a…
uhh… ummm…
[insert some kind of graceful, feral creature here; "cat " just doesn’t do it justice]
He’s fun to watch.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
literal lol
at ferret
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
marmoset? ferret?
but not a lemur. or a tarsier.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 10, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Where's the file located or can you send it to me?
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
check the fanshots
nobody checks those fanshots. there was all this information on outfielder-eating wolves.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 10, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
here's a link
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
the sequence begins at about 1:15
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
the Royals must be the Tiger's TESS.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
It's such a shame PJ is so damn inconsistent
When he’s on(see: the 3rd and 4th inning of that Cubs start), he’s fun to watch. That screwchange is something else. He’s been a great big pile of eh this game.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
Pitching to contact
I’ve said it before, but Dunc’s “pitch to contact” philosophy is badly misunderstood if the interpretation is that he values groundouts higher than strikeouts. The philopophy correctly values groundouts over walks and home runs. It’s a reasonable gameplan to throw strikes (to avoid walks) and to throw them down in the zone with movement to get groundballs and occasional strikeouts.
Carp and Wainwright are excellent pitchers who can do that and strike out nearly a batter per inning. Lohse and Piniero are fair to middlin’ pitchers who can do that, strike out a batter every two (or three) innings, and avoid crooked numbers by not walking batters and letting the defense do its job. I think Boggs can be better than he’s looked if he can start locating his pitches in the zone, especially his slider that he’s trying to get major leaguers to chase. It’s a good enough pitch that he should be able to get strikeouts and weak contact on if he can start hitting outside corner with it.
In another point, wouldn’t it be easier for your average pitcher, independent of his backing defense’s quality, to walk one fewer batter per start than strike out one more? I think so, and throwing pitches in the strikezone is what pitching to contact is. Take a look at any DIPS-type formula and it’s pretty clear that reducing BB/9 makes a more marked improvement in expected RA than increasing your K/9 by the same amount. I look at the “pitch to contact” label as the equivalent of the “don’t swing for home runs” rule: it’s great when you hit them, but you can’t approach a plate appearance trying to hit one—you need to put a good swing on a ball in the zone and put it in play. Likewise, it’s great when you strike a batter out, but you need to go into the plate appearance trying to throw strikes that won’t get hit hard.
This shouldn’t be a controversial thing, in my humble opinion, we should be celebrating our pitching coach’s theoretically sound philosophy that’s fueling the ridiculously good starting pitching we’ve been enjoying this season. And since we’re VeB, we should probably be trying to figure out how much the strikeout rate empirically drops given some reduction in walk rate (if any correlation actually exists.)
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Sep 10, 2009 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
MLB Network is stupid and predictable
“Cardinals Achilles heal… who will bat behind Pujols”
Ugh, do these guys actually pay attention to baseball?
Smoltz.
PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE LEGO MAN BEHIND THE MACHINE
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 10, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
More OT: Holliday
Holliday’s career line at Busch II now reads:
.411/.471/.831/1.302
Yes, I realize this is on a .422 babip, but it is a 173 OPS+.
bake those pies, man.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 10, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Ron Villone beats Phillies.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Nice
Marlins might be able to make a late run at that division, believe it or not. Their biggest obstacle will be overcoming that 3-game sweep at the hands of el Birdos. They and the Phillies meet up for two more series down the stretch, including a 3-game to end the year.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
i have been looking over the Rockies
They have a really balanced lineup and pitching staff. They have just 3 starters with around 130 to 105 ERA+ nothing special. Their offense has a 150 OPS difference between home and away. I bet we sweep them in 3 games.
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 10, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish
we would have used him properly last year (as in the way we’ve used Miller this year).
Shut up, Fritz™.
Mystifying
why Tony misused him like that. It’s not like Randy Flores should’ve been our primary lefty or anything.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
He missed all of 2008
trying to rehab his elbow (shoulder?) w/o surgery
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
So I just skimmed through this thread...
And you guys hit some bizarre topics, even for an off day.
So congratulations all around.
V, b.
*especially* for an off-day
this was pretty lame until about an hour ago.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 11, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Seriously though...
For a while there I thought everyone was about to start exchanging personal photographs.
And no one wants to see what gdm looks like.
V, b.
I look like a cop
in a straw hat.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
That's okay...
JD is also a ginger. You guys are like a VEB secret society all by yourselves. That’s why JD denies it.
V, b.
This would be
the Red-Headed League?
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 11, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
What’s the big deal with gingers? If I’m right about what it means I see no big deal.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m blond. Naturally strawberry blond but I put highlights in. So I have a little red.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Too bad we don't have a sketch artist here...
I think ClemsonGirl has described her entire physical appearance over the course of this thread.
V, b.
Red highlights for the Redbirds?
I may try that.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Blond highlights. But go ahead with your plan.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
come on
don’t respond all the way up here. you’re killing my z function fun
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
nah
z all the way. only z
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
i will fight you
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Lugo's watching you
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
The chomping is a bit of a turn-off
Makes me think of a bear trap vagina nightmare I once had.
Didn’t turn out so well.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
I think this is a reasonable place for this thread to end
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
No. I just don’t understand.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
We are awkward.
And a lot of us have the facial/body hair of a seven year old.
It’s not something to be proud of.
Except for on St Pats day, when you can all kiss my drunk, fat, white ass.
Shut up, Fritz™.
This might clear things up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0IVuGK7sAw
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
dude. it's the ultimate Boog article.
I better save this before P-D erases it from their frickin’ archives.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
dgoold has been reading VEB
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
dude, I've got *chills*
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 11, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Boog video clip is up as a fanshot
It’s 1MB and the source video sucked, but it still works.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
holy crap I'm reading the attendant article
this is … so cool.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 11, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
14 years younger than his closest sibling
that explains A LOT.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
i'm gonna get yelled at
I made a fanshot for the article
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 11, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
but...but...it's so awesome!
how could you get yelled at for that?
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
i could end up in the doghouse!
you never know
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 11, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
somebody's out of the doghouse (?):
“He can be an asset, like he is now, as long as he is working on the basis of respect and trust and productivity,” La Russa said. “He’s playing well. He’s playing consistently. He cares. So when he does his Robert DeNiro impersonation, everybody laughs. If he was not respected, not trusted and not a productive player, then all he would be is a clown. That’s not the case.”
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
But is he still feeble?
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
I think it was "futile"
I hope not.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
Well, not exactly.
One is the full-length interview, one is a short clip from the interview without sound, and one is an unrelated article, except that it’s also about Brendan Ryan.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
awesome!!!!11!!!11
thank you. I rec’d the fanshot.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
I can't stop listening to Animal Collective.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
meh
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
probably get flamed for this
but i never saw the appeal.
sung tongs and some other earlyish stuff is okay. the new stuff is just bad
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll probably get flamed for this,
but I don’t even know who they are.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
I’m with you here.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Can’t be the case unless 20 is now old.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
i mean, i'm 20
all it takes is a broadening of ones’ musical horizons.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
by tgreenfield on Sep 11, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I think a lot of us
are broad as fuck, musically, it’s just really hard keeping up with new music once you become an adult and have an actual life.
I quit trying a few years ago, and then found out this summer form a Rolling Stone at my parents house (they retired and are back into music now — being retired is like being an old teenager with your own house, says my dad) that one of my favorite bands of 2003, when I had the time to check out every band someone suggested to me (Kings of Leon) are apparently super popular now.
Shut up, Fritz™.
ha yeah
KoL were played over the intercom or whatever at some casino near my house. That’s when I knew. Honestly, I don’t really “follow” music. I just Pandora a lot of my favorite bands, find related-artists adn go from there. Pandora is great to find new shit.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
I think I have fairly broad music tastes. I’ve just never heard of this particular band.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I'm just 22...
Never heard of it.
Probably one of those bands that is “totally awesome, but only their first album that no one heard, they sold out after that.”
I’m paraphrasing of course.
V, b.
nah
everyone loves pretty much all of their albums
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that the new stuff is a good mix
of their earlier stuff. The amalgamation of their sounds (Merriwether Post Pavilion) is easier to take for most people who haven’t listened to them before than some of their stranger albums from the past.
They’re pretty good.
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
AC is great, but I’ve been on an electronic kick. m83, crystal castles, passion pit
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
by tgreenfield on Sep 11, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
boards of canada?
about the only the electronica album i can stomach anymore is mhtrtc
well, that and rdj’s saw vol 2
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
well and dj shadow
gotta love rabbit in the headlights
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
boards of canada is more ambient-y for me
but it’s still great. do you like air?
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
by tgreenfield on Sep 11, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
What the hell are you peope talking about?
Doesn;t anyone just listen to The Band anymore?
Shut up, Fritz™.
the band are pretty solid
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
as in The Steve Miller Band?
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
Really?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
No, as in the marching band
Play some of that rip roarin’ ragtime!
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I just finally read your sig all the way through btw and wow.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
i was assuming
he meant The Band
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
not familiar
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Sep 11, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
me neither
I guess electronica and its variants can go over people’s heads. to me, nothing is better than popping in some explosions in the sky or sigur ros while watching the cardinals.
relaxing, i tells ya.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
by tgreenfield on Sep 11, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
see!
don’t mock Air when you enjoy Sigur Ros. I recommend Air if you like SR.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
by tgreenfield on Sep 11, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I never even considered EitS for a baseball game,
but it could be pretty fantastic.
They did not impress me at Lolla though.
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I imagine
that they’d have some difficulties. Who did you see at Lolla(im bombarding you with questions, my apologies)
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
No. It's alright. Music is easy to talk about.
Well, at that Lolla (2008), I saw:
Radiohead, Kanye, Wilco (my favorite band), Bloc Party, Broken Social Scene, The National, Explosions, Gogol Bordello, Okkervil River, BATTLES, Chromeo, Yeasayer, (dragged to) MGMT, Black Lips, Foals, and bits of others.
There was a lot of running involved.
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
damn
Three of those bands are on my must-see list, but they’ve never really come to MN when I’m not at school, but those are some sicks artists. MGMT is awful, glad to see mutual hate.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
black lips!
shit is so cash
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
if you haven't
you need to check out king khan/bbq show and all their various projects
like les sexareenos. fuck all this hip hop shit the kids like. that’s some party music. filthy, liud, poppy rock and roll. man
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
sigur ros is cool
i like aegtis byrjun or however you spell it. and the one where all the songs are untitled
don’t like much explosions in the sky, godspeed you! black emporer type stuff
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Sigur Ros is basically the pinnacle
of instrumental ambient type of music. Explosions is purely instrumental so its hard to get into, imo. Honestly, a lot of their popularity comes from Friday Night Lights, that’s why it’s so nice to set to a baseball game. If you like SR, you’d definitely like Boards of Canada, Ulrich Schnauss, Aphex Twin, etc.
I’m recommending music all over the place. Kind of pathetic.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
never heard of ulrich schnauss
the other two are cool
and i used to like gy!be a lot, but ionno, it’s just too repetitive
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Me too. I think I would die without air.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
rofflecopter
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
by tgreenfield on Sep 11, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
me neither
it’s okay. i stayed away from that coke/soda/pop argument y’all had. as a northerner, i feel like my perspective is irrelevant :)
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
LOLCANO!!!!!!!!!1111!!111!
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I knew somebody would go there.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
M83 are pretty awesome
I’m not sure if I’m into the whole 8-bit, video game music that Crystal Castles kind of delves into.
If you are one for dance-electronica, I would highly suggest Cut Copy. They’re awesome.
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah
Cut Copy is great, do you like Royskopp? I think they’re much better than CC.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
what about Marginal Pyke?
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
also good.
basically, i’ve been on this big remix kick since school started. boys noize, mstrkrft, justice, etc. so when i study/relax/watch baseball, all of those chilled out ambient bands really appeal to me. and of course, radiohead.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
I prefer Bloc Party
but that’s my angsty youth speaking. Radiohead reached the peak of music amazingness with Kid A.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
oh, get the fuck out
I prefer Bloc Party
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
ha.
Really, you’re anti-BP?
Radiohead is king though. I may have misspoke by denigrating them. Mah bad.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
they're okay
i’m just a rh fanboy
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Bloc Party was my favorite band for a while
I was also 16 at the time.
I didn’t discover Radiohead until later on. They are better than Bloc Party, obvs.
But Silent Alarm is a killer album.
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
SA is probably their best overall album
But I honestly love Intimacy, and its remix variant. That obviously isn’t BP, but it’s still great.
I’ll still listen to Kid A any day of the week over any album ever.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
yeah kid a
best album. i’ve kind of listened to all of their albums way too much. but man, kid a changed the way i look at music
gets me all nostalgic thinking about it
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Yeah.
Pretty much amazing.
Do you like DFA1979? They’re pretty much the best blend of rock/dance pop I’ve heard in a long time.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
honestly
and i’m kind of embarrassed to admit, i’ve never listened to them. heard lots of talk, just never got around to it. so much mousic, so little time
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Give em a listen
Their discography is awfully small because the DFA project broke up. Mstrkrft and JFK are the two electronica/remix-based offshoots of DFA. But DFA is great to listen to.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
Well,
Kid A is my favorite Radiohead, too, but…
I think I’d still take Revolver.
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
that's not even their best album
rubber soul, man
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Their best album....
Oh no.
Who knows.
They were pretty damn good throughout.
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I missed the most awesome day
of VEB of all time. But if anyone is still in this I want to thank you for the entertainment during macro.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Sep 11, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you ever tried Kid 17
on Everything in it’s Right Place, Kid A, and Idioteque?
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
yeah, i do
i’m a member of a radiohead message board. kid 17 is just kinda lol
i’ve heard and i guess it’s interesting, but the way music is structured, it’s not hard to find stuff like that
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
I actually think the syncopation on Idioteque
is pretty awesome, if it is synced up right
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I think they are different.
And whether they are better is purely subjective.
I think that In Ghost Colours is one of the best albums to come out in the last few years, but it won’t truly be appreciated for that for a while.
Oh, and I do like Royskopp quite a bit.
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
This is true
Pathetic side note, Fifa 09 introduced me to MGMT and Cut Copy. Needless to say, one band is significantly better than the other.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
gotcha.
Yeah, they suck.
I remember asking rb about it and he said he loved it. I wasn’t sure how serious he was, so I didn’t force the issue.
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
ha.
There’s a pretty sweet video of Weezer covering Kids. When WEEZER outclasses your band’s top song, you have little to no talent.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
I mean, you can't deny
that since the Green album, everything Weezer has done is basically poop.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
Yeah
but that can’t take away from the blue albums awesomeness. Which you were like four when it came out.
Eff, I’m old.
Shut up, Fritz™.
You take your car to work. I take my board.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Sep 11, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not that young
20 still allows me to cringe when young folk talk about stupid shit like HSM or something.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
GDM, you can have my CDs, Baron you can have my albums, Spants you can have my tapes.
See kids, CDs were these small discs, albums were big discs, and tape were really weird…
Shut up, Fritz™.
Albums are the only way I physically buy music anymore
I don’t see a point in anything else.
At least with vinyl you get a nice substantial thing to hold on to.
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
/ -——- BOOM >
/
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
motherfucker it is High School Musical
How/Why did I use that acronym.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
no no
I just realized that I used HSM to describe High School Musical
I feel oodles of shame.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
apologize if it came off that way.
probz should’ve had an exclamation point in there somewhere.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
ha gotcha.
was worried you were gonna go all internet-Carp on me.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
/averting eyes and walking away humming We’re All in this Together.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Christ almighty
At least tell me you’re a fan of old Nick shows such as All That and Doug. That gets a respite in my book
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
Doug was cool
until it suddenly became stupid. who the fuck ruined Doug, anyway?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
those fuckers.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
she cut her hair!
see bald chick thread several miles up the page
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
All That… yes. I never liked Doug. I do like the Old Nick shows. I’m going to be a first grade teacher. I can be pretty young and shallow in my tastes.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
i'm liking you less and less
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
Because I’m going to be a first grade teacher… harsh.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
no.. the sentence following that
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
I go from shallow to very deep. Very wide range. Depends on my mood.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
you should watch Avatar while on shrooms.
then tell us about it.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 11, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
did you have shrooms?
that might be your problem there
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 11, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hah
it’s funny because I think that the pinnacle of American television begins with GUTS and ends with Arrested Development. and yet we have haters on Doug
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
I don’t hate it, I just never really got that into it. Loved All That though. My favorite TV show ever is Boy Meets World and my favorite show on now is How I Met Your Mother. I don’t know if that makes anything better.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
No, not really
Jason Segel is amazing. But HIMYM? egads.
Start watching shows that got cancelled! Or It’s Always Sunny.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
You and I have the same taste in media
or so it seems
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
there's nothing wrong
with being awesome about the right stuff. cardinals, radiohead, and arrested development.
formative shit, that is.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
I can't be friends with people
who prefer family guy to seasons 3-8 of the Simpsons. I get mad. visibly angry.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
I hate Family Guy. I can stand the Simpsons. Is that better?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
much better
Seasons 4 and 5 of the Simpsons is literally art. It is classic,well-written by amazing talent, and satire at its finest. But yes. much better
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
well, fuck
if mainstream people like, i certainly cannot!
/hipster douche
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
i disagree
every show needs someone to hate on
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
Ted is by far the least interesting character
but there would be no one to be surprised by the stupid shit they do if straight-man Ted wasn’t there.
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
That's true
Boy they know how to suck it up now
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I've been listening to a lot of Grizzly Bear
and those remastered Beatles albums!
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
pitcher w/l is meaningless, etc.
But this is actually pretty cool.
Waino leads the majors in wins; that’s not news. Carp is now 2nd for wins in the NL. Behind him is marquis with 15, then a 4-way tie for fourth in the NL, which includes pineiro, with 14 wins. Now if pineiro has a good finish and takes 3 or 4 wins, the cards could conceivably end the season with a 1-2-3 in wins in the NL.
Not that meaningful, but cool.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Sep 11, 2009 1:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
cant you tell
we’re not talking about baseball tonight :)
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
we are a sad lot when there is no Cardinals game.
but creative. very… creative.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
you know what i miss...
big league chew
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
Seeing how much you could get in your mouth (NO TWSS JOKES) was always fun
That and with Bubble Tape. You’d start out with a normal piece and end up getting the rest of it in eventually.
Not afraid to nitpick
twss twss twss twss
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
twss twss twss twss
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
i just saw some the other day
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
he's a witch!
only witches can still see BLC!
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
no seriously they had original or watermelon
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions
she's using her witch smarts to be smarter than the interwebz
and now she’s coming for me!
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
its a northern chain store like ummmmmmm almost the $0.99 store
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
We had one on Peoria when I was little that closed around '90
I had no idea they were a chain.
Shut up, Fritz™.
They are in STL county as well
They used to have penny candy.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
smartass.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
I thought there was only the one in Webster. My world is collapsing around me.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
That's the one I'm talking about!
Penny candy….mmmmmm
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
Maplewood, then Ballwin.
Now Columbia, MO.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
I have friends in Maplewood. I was born in Richmond Heights and we moved to Webster just in time for me to go to their schools.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Similar for me
Lived in Overland but then went to Webster for the awesome school district
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions
On with Webster, on with webster
fight, fight, fight, fight, fight
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Pass the ball on down the field and fight with all your might…
Worst fight song ever.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Webster sucks
Go Pioneers.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and letting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
This is untrue.
Kirkwood sucks.
and here we go…
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions
We're gonna beat Valley this year I can feel it
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Um who has the bell right now? Oh yeah, that’s what I thought, Webster does.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Are you going to be a teacher at Webster?
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions
They don't get to play for the bell
Sorrz
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions
The debate for best nickname ever is over
Millennium High School in CA wins
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
It's the school that made the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 11, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Before you even ask...
Lafayette High School
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
Hey, I was on the Lafayette swim team.
Lettered freshman and sophomore year, then quit.
Why do you hate?
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
I do not understand
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
Yes, but what does that have to do with my high school swim team?
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
buddy....
i just throw stuff out there. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions
somtimes I am too literal.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
1. Too good. I view them as the Yankees of St. Louis High School swimming.
2. Water is WAY too cold.
3. We are cursed. Everytime we swam there something bad would happen to someone on our team. Just awful.
I don’t hate them as much as I hate Blue Springs in KC. Cheaters.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Cold water makes you swim faster. Swimming in hot water sucks.
It’s unfair to categorize them as the Yankees of high school swimming just because they’re really good. It’s not as though people move to that part of the school district just so they can be on the Lafayette swim team.
I do understand that 85% of the girls on the team are snotty rich assholes who swim U.S.S. year ’round, though. I can understand hating that.
Sorry about your curse, though. Webster?
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
Not that cold! I hated swimming in warm pools but there is such a thing as too cold. Lafayette crossed that line. I would hyperventilate everytime I got in that pool. Rockwood Summit perfect temperature. Lafayette= Webster U’s pool when the heater broke.
I was talking about those 85% who are snotty that remind of the Yankees.
Yeah Webster. All kinds of crazy things happened to us at that pool. Weirdest thing ever.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Rockwood Summit was just a series of empty, rolling hills on 109
when I was on the Lafayette swim team.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
random
when my buddy’s wife was pregnant about a year ago she started craving big league chew like nobody’s business
by Expatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions
okay guys
throwing on some neil young. surely everybody can did on some neil
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
a southern man don't need him around anyhow!
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
most likely...
do you often go around quoting skynyrd at people that recommend neil young?
if you answered yes… then i would think it’s a stronger possibility
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
it's only sarcastic
if you missed the original reference
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
so i'll take that as a yes
and my fellow southerner did miss out on the reference… i’ve lost faith in the state of tennessee
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
From the south
Prefer Neil Young to Skynyrd
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't mean to start a 400-comment thread about soda vs. pop
I was hoping for the same result with varying pronunciations of BABIP so somebody less lazy than I could map it.
On a positive note, I have learned that non-game threads are entertaining.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
you didn't know that?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Hadn't had a chance to participate in one before
This thread just crashed my browser.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
oh yeah
game threads are only cool for those of us that live in areas not highly populated by cardinal fans
and of course, the guys that live in their mom’s basement (all of us)
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
This is a pretty standard game thread for the Indians site. Just throw in some CHOOOOOO’s and Well that sucked’s and you’re golden.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
ha ha!
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
What? The Well that sucked’s? Yeah… story of my life. At least I still have the Cradinals.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I wasn't laughing at your plight, I was laughing at your description of the Indians site
sorry, I should have been more specific.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
i prononuce it babip
just like how its spelled. speds.
by Expatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Eric Young Sr. just interviewed Eric Young Jr.
Why do I even watch the WWL?
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
dude, I have WWL on and I'm not watching it.
what is wrong with you?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
me too i love background noise
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
don't get it
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
So you can hear Eric Young, Jr. say he wants to "sparkle"
which I’m actually not knocking. I think that’s kinda cute.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
my thoughts on tonight's threads:
this thread is like watching a train wreck.. but then it turns out that one of the trains was full of kangaroos… and now all the kangaroos are just jumping around, and the crowd has forgotten the trains and just staring at the kangaroos, but now it’s getting monotonous.. and everyone’s getting bored until someone new walks up and is like “Hey.. what’s with the kangaroos?” then everyone else wants to be the one to tell the story and where they were when it happened and what they think caused the wreck, and meanwhile all the passengers and train personnel have left…
Quote:
Well.. I was just coming home from work, and there was all this shouting.. seems the westbound train got on the wrong track and slammed straight into the eastbound from Pawtucket.. the conductor over there lost an arm.. wait.. where’d he go… long story short… kangaroos have taken over the preschool, and I’m selling t-shirts
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
by slash2049 on Sep 11, 2009 1:15 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
fortunately Chris Duncan could not possibly be on that train.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i just now got that joke.............
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
is there a video
of a hawk attacking a kangaroo?
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
Y’all really aren’t used to not talking about baseball on here are you?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
i mean i guess the kangaroos
could be storing baseballs in their pouches…
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
People just seem kind of confused by this thread. I would have assumed it would have been normal.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Some people
are new. Some people don’t read everyday (!) and some people don’t read on off-days. Or they just read the main post and comments when they’re at work, and don’t see what happened until tomorrow.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
Some people make
inane comments during game threads contributing very little, then someone brings up music and goes all comment-happy. oh, that’s me.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
I've been around for 2+ years...
I don’t know, but this thread is crazier than normal. In a good way of course.
V, b.
some people
don’t understand that off day threads are like a Talking Heads concert.
Whatever happens, it’s whatever. But it’s awesome.
Shut up, Fritz™.
I normally drop acid on off days
and just let it flow
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Acid is a little harsh
shrooms are more subtle
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions
For reading and writing a bunch of comments
on a baseball forum
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions
meh,
it’s all relative to how much you eat
shrooms are more of a dirty trip
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
i love shrooms
not often but every few years. They are normally life awakening moments. Last time I took shrooms I watched Wizard of Oz synced up the dark side of the moon
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
i didn't do shrooms till college
My first time was on 4th of July
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
College for me too
Although that was only two years ago.
What a trip!
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
okay, walking drug user stereotype
Doing shrooms then going to a waterpark. now that’s fun.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
yeah... and then all of a sudden i was wet
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
I once had an in depth conversation
with Spud McKenzie
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
"Get the hell off my lawn!"
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
How she really wanted to be a track star
but apparently also had a penis and vagina
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
and for the record
i can’t trip anymore. shit freaks me out and i get all unable to talk coherently and it’s just not fun
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
It may be your fault...
Everything was normal until you showed up.
I mean I’m not sayin’, I’m just sayin’.
V, b.
Although people started talking about the “girl” runner before I got here.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Yeah, but spants buzz-killed that one but fast
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
it's not your fault...
Don’t fuck with me Sean! Not you…
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
I'm not going to blame her
but her team did lose a heartbreaker tonight.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
No. We are blameless in all things now tha Dabo is in charge.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
from my experience,
this thread isn’t really representative. usually some tangents, bust mostly baseball discussion
but, shit, it’s an off day and the cardinals are playing the best baseball of anyone in the game and cruising to a division championship, an mvp, a silver slugger or two, comeback player of the year and maybe a cy young
what is there to talk about?
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
...Boog?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Boog approves of the direction of this thread
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
Moo Cow
has an annoying habit of bringing up some medieval torture ritual called rounders… or knockers.. or grass chewing and frolicking a lot during games
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
Funny you say this because I just sold a set of DVDs in Finland
For use in instruction in the game of Pesapallo, which is kinda sorta like baseball.
I’ll be interested in how this turns out.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Yes
color me impressed VEB
you don’t get this at BCB, not even a little
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 11, 2009 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
no, then they argue about the reality of sucking
because sucking doesn’t exist.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
You can't project suck.
SUCK HAPPENS IN REAL LIFE YOU FOOL!
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
Franklin is a figment of your imagination...............................
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
Carlos Zambrano is a stand up player
get off his back!
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 11, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
ooo T-BALL on the WWL
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
i'm now wondering if that last mix-tape check was Get Your Freak On.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
If I had it recorded I would try to help
but I don’t
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
damnit, i wish i was still in MN
I could go watch Clayton Mortensen and cry tears of bittersweet sadness tomorrow!
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
anyone else think it would be funny if the phills collaapse and ruin all of the playoff promos
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
I'm defriending my grandparents on facebook.
I got this shit today posted on my status.
Tim, life is more than football games and sports, what do you think of the issues that we as a country are facing i.e. Health Care and the financial mess this country is facing. How do you think we should address them. Grandpa
What the fux?
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
Yes, I know!
but seriously, caring about shit? That’s stupid.
/actually, I really do care a lot, but it’s facebook. I’ll save my “what needs to be done” for academia, thanks.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
i have abandoned facebook
I dislike all social networking sites. I care little of other people’s lives
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions
yet here you are.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
this is not social networking in the same sense facebook is
Facebook is always dominated by a few friend that tell their daily life stories.
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
8 inches?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
it's cute
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 11, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
ah
i’m so proud to have started a veb meme
even if a slightly obscure one
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
so you wouldn't make t-shirts for them
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I’m having a difficult time believing you right now.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Social networking. I suppose you explained yourself okay above.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
i still occasionally use them
but for the most part avoid them
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
honestly, if i didn't have a place
to rave about the Cardinals and infuriate my Cubs/Brewers-liking peers, I would get rid of FB. I’m almost there. I just talk to my few good friends on fb chat all of the time, and that’s tough to get rid of.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
I think it's natural to lose interest in a thing like Facebook
as you get into the later years of college. At that point you should be solidifying the friendships that you already have and don’t have to stay as connected to the friends from high school.
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
all my best friends are my friends from high school
Even after college we all stayed in touch and hang out
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Same here
Most of my friends don’t even use FB that much in comparison to me. But seriously, how else can i proclaim “MATT FUCKING HOLIDAY” from Miller Park to the rest of my internetz friends?
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
true.
but seriously, thanks cardinals for going 6-1 in the games I saw you in person.
Carp’s 1 hitter, Matt Fucking Holliday, Ludwick singlehandedly destroying the Cubs among others.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
here
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
you need a separate, family-only facebook account
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
I just came to this realization
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
you need one for your carp friends?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I'm seriously considering just defriending almost everyone
I already have deleted almost all the photos or de-tagged if you. My profile photo isn’t even of me.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
do it
it’s freeing
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Burger King used to have a promotion
if you defriended 10 of your friends they would give you a Whopper
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions
my profile pic
is my toupee-wearing dog. But there’s plenty of tagged photos of me…
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 6:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Jim Hayes is your dog?
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and letting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
My profile photo is Kahn from Star Trek II
The reason is that I’m kind of shy, but in reality I’m also a genetically-engineered super-human with designs for global conquest.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
My carp friends aren't on the Internet
They are fish.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and leting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
so you admit to having fish friends....
are they pervs too?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
You should just answer him
but mostly talk about football games and sports
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
oh, good ole joe wilson (r) south carolina
such an influential figure
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
hahahahhahah
True. NO RELATIONSHIP STATUS = GETTIN LAID ON THE REG
or just using my tears as my own personal lube….
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
history and poli sci
so the whole gramps comment is actually ironic.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
Of fucking course you are
I’m English and Poli Sci for law school
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
law school = pretty awesome
class mon and tues.
1 class wed = sports law
no class thurs. and fri.
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
I'm glad you think it is pretty awesome
cause that’s not what I have heard from others.
Where do you go?
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions
grad school is looking likely para mi
prob. focusing on modern american history. i’m taking a research seminar reserved for seniors a year early, but it’s pretty sick and pretty much confirming my destination.
plus, a free kindle!
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
Isn't Madison the main UW?
Like, if you told me you went to Wisconsin, wouldn’t I just assume it’s Madison?
I ask because it annoys the shit out of me when I tell people I go to Tennessee, and they say, “oh, Martin? Chattanooga?”
Umm…no.
V, b.
yea, out of the MN/WI/IL axis, that's true
but going to HS in MN then going to college in WI where there are a ton of other institutions, you have to clarify. Plus, I would’ve just typed UW which can be confused for other shit
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
"I thnk we should address them by getting everyone older than me out of political office.
do you have any questions about how you’ve messed up my country?"
...I don't think it's the baseball that's doing this.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
yeah
there’ve been a greatly increasing number of noobs and such that weren’t around when the cards sucked in june
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
I was around; I just wasn't posting.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
that's the one!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
If you don't have a Friday class
Why you on here?
Go out and party
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe this is like designated blogging
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
bc i have a ton of reading to catch up on
no good, yo. so i’m just watching I Love Lisa and drankin a Jim and Diet.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
seriously, we are live similar lives Land
this is kind of creepy.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
Except we chose drastically different colleges
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i went to a big hs
so this whole huge campus thing is pretty much right up my alley. and i love college hockey, so uw is pretty logical.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
Tulane is just the middle size for me
plus it is in New Orleans, which is almost exclusively good
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I almost went there, actually
They were giving out money like candy post-Katrina. I have a really good friend who goes there, so I might be spending my SB down in NO. Plus, being 21 by then will help(not that it matters too much)
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
just out of curiosity, who is the friend?
Cause that’d be real strange
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, that's a large part of why I came here
I wanted to go to NYU but Tulane gave me more money
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
well, do you know anyone from apple valley minnesota?
that’s the test
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
Nope, I don't think so.
but the nice thing about Tulane is it is not totally unreasonable that I would no any random person. Unlike all my friends at Mizzou who know no one
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
i couldn't afford my D.O.C.
without my gambling winnings from the card’s winning streak.
so therefore i respectfully disagree
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
I can't stop listening to Crystal Castles.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Try Crimewave,
Courtship dating,
Air War,
Black Panther,
and most of their covers are good (like Vanished)
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Yeah. It's a bit more like, say, My Bloody Valentine, than real electronica.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Or spiritualized.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Spiritualized is wonderful.
His latest album is great
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Not sure I've heard the latest.
Ever heard Our Dark Horse? It’s some small time deal that I guess the guy from Spiritualized likes.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Check their myspace...
When Winter Ends is a wonderful song. Also, So Thank You For That
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Not to be a snobby douche, but some of their stuff was better when it was obviously recorded in a basement or at a show.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
ladies and gentleman!
such a great song
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
It's really funny that everyone knows that song but no one listens to much other stuff-
there’s huge contrast, and a lot of the other stuff is much more inaccessible.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
yeah
i never made much of an effort to get into their other stuff
i think i was on a huge jazz kick when i discovered that album and i just couldn’t get past those melodies
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
yeah, i just heard that song on a movie or something when i was a teenager,
and went and spent like $40 on a big album. Then I had to learn to love it- I had already invested.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
ehh, MBV is shoegazer, but honestly all of those labels blend together
Saturdays=Youth is definitely on target with your description, but his older stuff is honestly the nice blend I really like. But CC is just amazing. Boys Noize, too.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
shoegaze is such a funny genre
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
but also a great genre!
And one of the most fun to record, I think
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
i don't produce music, but i'm sure.
shoegaze is just great to fall asleep to, imo.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
You should try doing it
At some point you’re going to look back thinking why didn’t I make some of that sweet, sweet music, too.
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions
bc i litearlly have no musical talent/ear
i just like to read about nuke prolif and call it a night.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
WINikipedia
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Specifically the Animal Collective songs that I cannot stop listening to are Fireworks and Summertime Clothes
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
When the sun goes down, we'll go out again.
Wonderful, reminds me of freshman year of college
by LandSickness on Sep 11, 2009 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions
And I wanna walk a round with you
the hooks are digging into me.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Hey, does anyone here listen to the Chinese guy B6?
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
from the Commercial Appeal
“The Memphis Redbirds rallied in the ninth inning Thursday night to take a commanding lead in the Pacific Coast League playoffs.
The Redbirds scored five runs in the top of the ninth to beat the Albuquerque Isotopes 8-6 and take a 2-0 lead in the best-of-five American Conference finals."
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
We really should of been following that game
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah.. i was..
i just didn’t really chat about it… i was also watching the titans… so i was a little drunk for most of it
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
booyah
An unbelievable two-out, ninth inning rally pushed Memphis past Albuquerque Thursday night at Isotopes Park and sent the Redbirds back home with a 2-0 lead in the best-of-five series.
The ‘Birds erased a three-run deficit in the ninth with Donovan Solano’s pinch-hit single starting the rally. Mark Hamilton’s two-run double brought the Redbirds within a run before Allen Craig’s pinch-hit, RBI-single tied the game at 6-6. Brandon Yarbrough played the hero belting a two-run double into the right-center field gap to put Memphis on top for the first time since the fifth inning. Hamilton finished the night 3-for-4 with two runs scored to lead the Redbirds. Blake DeWitt went 3-for-5 with two runs scored to lead Albuquerque.
Memphis reliever Tyler Norrick picked up the win tossing one scoreless inning of relief. Albuquerque closer Scott Strickland, who led the PCL in the regular season with 32 saves, was pinned with the loss allowing five runs on four hits while recording only two outs. Redbirds starter P.J. Walters allowed three runs, one earned, on nine hits over 4.2 innings.
The ‘Birds return home tomorrow night to host their first playoff game since 2000 with game time scheduled for 7:05 p.m. Lefty Evan MacLane gets the ball for the Redbirds against Albuquerque’s Tim Corcoran.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
HFS ®
Memphis Top 9th
- Pitcher Change: Scott Strickland replaces Josh Lindblom, batting 6th.
- Offensive Substitution: Pinch hitter Donovan Solano replaces Tyler Norrick.
- Donovan Solano singles on a line drive to center fielder Xavier Paul.
- Jon Jay singles on a line drive to center fielder Xavier Paul. Donovan Solano to 2nd.
- Tyler Greene walks. Donovan Solano to 3rd. Jon Jay to 2nd.
- Jarrett Hoffpauir grounds into a force out, pitcher Scott Strickland to catcher JD Closser. Donovan Solano out at home. Jon Jay to 3rd. Tyler Greene to 2nd. Jarrett Hoffpauir to 1st.
- David Freese pops out to first baseman Hector Luna in foul territory.
- Mark Hamilton singles on a line drive to right fielder Jamie Hoffmann. Jon Jay scores. Tyler Greene scores. Jarrett Hoffpauir to 3rd.
- Offensive Substitution: Pinch hitter Allen Craig replaces Mark Shorey.
- Allen Craig singles on a line drive to right fielder Jamie Hoffmann. Jarrett Hoffpauir scores. Mark Hamilton to 3rd.
- Pitcher Change: Cory Wade replaces Scott Strickland, batting 6th.
- Brandon Yarbrough doubles (1) on a line drive to center fielder Xavier Paul. Mark Hamilton scores. Allen Craig scores.
- Shane Robinson singles on a ground ball to shortstop Chin-lung Hu. Brandon Yarbrough out at home, first baseman Hector Luna to catcher JD Closser.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Whaaaa?? Hector Luna?
Has he been languishing in AAA since the Belliard trade?
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
wrong team, i think...
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I didn't know how he (Luna) got from the Indians to the Dodgers farm system
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
My favorite bullet point here
Tyler Greene walks. Donovan Solano to 3rd. Jon Jay to 2nd.
Just because it doesn’t happen every day.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Fun Fact:
Greene posted a professional career high in walk rate at Memphis this season.
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scotch and water*
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
soda water?
or are you really bastardizing a good scotch by mixing it with coke?
that’s what jack daniels is for
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
i would never mix scotch with a soda
But would mix it with a coffee
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 11, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
interesting
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
dude, i was introduced to something like that a couple of weeks ago
absolutely wonderful
by Expatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions
hold the scotch?
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Rocks or straight up
Though I like rusty nails as well.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Bourbon and scotch?
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
well
none of my browsers are really handling this thread very well anymore. think i’m gonna call it a veb night
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
I feel like we need shirts
the back: a list of things covered.
music, shrooms, coke/pop/soda, POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
is that all you got?
nothing more…substantial? like the herp?
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
you know
if i cared about HC, i’d be able to avoid the internet herp.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
the mods
are gonna come in tomorrow and go you sick )@$*$$! what did you do
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"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
is it really that many
i haven’t clicked back on this page in quite some time. having too much fun!!1
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
the actual count is 1300+
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I really should go to sleep. I’m driving to Atlanta tomorrow. But I’m too excited to sleep. It’s like Christmas.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Your christmases must suck.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
I am seeing my friend who I haven’t seen in forever and eating real food for the first time in two months. This is fantastic.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
cereal bar
every kind of cereal you could imagine. i swear one of my buddies lived for that.
by Expatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
do i know you
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s so boring. Andsometimes they have good food. Like yesterday they had too much good foos. They tend to cluster the good options together so that some days they have nothing.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Okay, comprehension FAIL.
I thought you were referring to this thread as christmas.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
good point
nice to know that some people care about things that aren’t baseball. like anti-Gingites
by Expatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions
i mean, what the fuck?
is that a goddamn hotdog on a napkin? is there some sort of milk to go with his chefboyardee? what the fuck is going on with the center table arrangement? Sandra Lee would never allow a tablescape like that. And her milk would have bourbon in it.
by Expatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Everyone read me on driveline tomorrow
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
yeah, pathetic.
it’s kind of hard to substantively discuss shit in gameday threads. i really really like shooting the shit.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
I was talking to Fritz...
However, you aren’t around much, so you’ve probably quintupled yours.
V, b.
LandSickness went on to sail around the world, twice in a row.
His wherabouts are currenly unknown.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
I'm out too
It was fun.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
andi_k was elected class president and eventually prom king.
He went on to earn an associates degree in film from a local community college. Eventually he found his calling as the new six flags dancing old guy.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Dancing old guy's wife.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
I am a she
but coincidentally, I did work at Six Flags for three years as a teenager.
I can still be the prom king, right?
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
I need to sleep so I don’t die in a car wreck on 85-South tomorrow. This was awesome everyone.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
ClemsonGirl turned out to never have gone to Clemson-
not that she had lied. She was actually a sleep-deprivation-induced hallucination of the undersexed and almost entirely male VEB community.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Sep 11, 2009 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Peace out
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and letting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
thepainguy eventually proved that PFX was useless and that Smoltz really threw a screwball.
He went on to run for governor, only to lose to Jerry Springer.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Sep 11, 2009 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
okay, i'm gonna shower then head to bed.
night, everyone. pour one out for me
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
tgreenfield faded back into obscurity.
Sightings and rumors were circulated from time to time. They all proved naught until one fateful day in 1997 when he was captured on the mexican border with a fake Bolivian passport. He fled during arraignment and is still at large
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
so i checked my email before sleeping, wound up back here, and i was hoping my send off
would be exactly the same as “yeah-yeah” from The Sandlot. alas…
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
This is all you get:
http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/05/sandlot-kid-charged-with-battery/
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Big Lesbian Trannies deserve your respect too, you know
by Expatcardfan on Sep 11, 2009 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Alxfritz never really left, because he's actually just a brain in a jar connected to a computer system.
He always did have a feeling that he was living as a disembodied brain, but he never confessed this fear to anyone.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Luke eventually made the ND football team only to be felled by injury before his first game.
He re-evaluated his priorities in life and is now living as a Jain Buddhist on an organic farm/commune in Idaho.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
This was indeed quite epic.
I got off at around 11 or so, come back before bed and see like 800 new comments. I was sure we had gotten spammed.
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 11, 2009 4:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I had to leave a few hours ago...
To avoid being too pulled in.
Read an entire Agatha Christie mystery.
Smoked half a pack of cigarettes.
Came back for more.
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
Wow, long thread
In other news – the Adam picture at the top is attributed to “Morry Gash”. Amusing pseudonym alert.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
1400 comments
and not one flame war.
Longest thread to read EVAR and no one even needs to be banned at the end of it.
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I'm ashamed of you morning after guys...
there’s seriously only ~2 recs for some great individual replies.
I’m ashamaed
I'm going to anticipate Albert being walked if Babe Ruth is hitting behind him -Holliday
this whole post is green
don’t be hatin’
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 11, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
preach homes
I lol’d at many quotes
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
by tgreenfield on Sep 11, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I reading (skimming) from a mod perspective
not as a commenter.
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My god, it's full of win
This thread is epic like Homer.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
you were like the carrion crow picking through the remains the next day.
good work. adds to the atmosphere.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 11, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I really enjoy looking at the past day's thread and seeing what I missed
I usually only post at work, which is awesome for my productivity.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I thought more James Joyce myself...
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 11, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
you're just saying that because we have a Moo Cow.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 11, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I like to think that bearded Viking-lookin' dudes will raise goblets of ale and mead in their drinking halls and sing about this thread.
It’ll probably be embellished a little over time. Like, instead of gingers, it was a red dragon that 13 of the fiercest warriors of VEB had to join forces to slay. The dragon terrorized the populace of a kingdom called Clemsonia known for its comely young lasses who wore their hair short and wore pointy shoes and said “Coke” and competed in games and tourneys just like the men. The warriors fought with the aid of magical mushrooms and always managed to outperform their peripheral statistics.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 11, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I don’t say Coke. Unless I want a Coke.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 11, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Well it all gets jumbled together in the oral tradition
Azruavatar will end up being a mechanical man forged by Hephaestus himself, and thepainguy is some kind of wizard who can correct mechanical flaws by correct focusing of chi.
Anyway, the facts won’t all be straight but the legend will still contain truth.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
We do not live in fictional projections of the story
Rather, WE LIVE THE STORY IN REAL LIFE WHAT DONT YOU GEt
/bcb
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
by tgreenfield on Sep 11, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!!!
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and letting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
I would prefer if this thread is never mentioned again
it should only belong to those of us who were here. The rest of you don’t know what it was really like, man.
Where was our parade???
Shut up, Fritz™.
Shopping and baking
while I was smoking an enormous pig shoulder for her. She’s off on a weekend long “camping” trip/ bachelorette party now.
Shut up, Fritz™.
ahhhh
I was wondering why she didn’t tuck you in earlier.
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I've never heard it referred to as that
People always just called it a doobie.
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and letting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
Is that a regional term, like using "pop" or "coke" for "soda?
"Before every at bat I picture myself reaching down the hitter's throat and ripping his still beating heart from his chest, devouring it before his eyes and the eyes of his wailing wife, children, and entire family, and letting the blood pour down the front of my uniform to stain the now-hallowed ground from which I will deliver the first pitch." - Chris Carpenter
we don't get no respect around here
i typed some horrible things man…horrible things
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
by tgreenfield on Sep 11, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish I would've
announced my departure. Then hazel would’ve written something funny about me.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
i also had that wish this morning
Proud to be a member of The Night of the Longest Train Wreck Ever (9/10/09)
I almost wish I wouldn't have logged out.
It seemed like people started disappearing after that.
It could have been so much longer.
TWSS
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Sep 11, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
For all us (we?) gingers:
we have better sex lives. Check it.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
It's not all good news though
cause there’s also this.
Also, I’ve always loved this article for some reason. Probably because it was originally sent to me with the subject line “red is the new black.”
by brackenthebox on Sep 11, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
holy fucking shit
this was epic, i’m pissed i took thurday off.
f’in gdm
the good news, i’m batting 9th & playing right field. i get Fritz’s CD’s
the bad news, i’m retarded, still a ginger, sexless & living in my mother’s basement
holy fucking shit
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
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