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Soon, this will not be the only photograph of Troy Glaus on the AP wire.

Jeff Roberson - AP

Soon, this will not be the only photograph of Troy Glaus on the AP wire.

By the time you read this, PH/1B/break-glass-in-case-of-3B-emergency Troy Glaus might already be on the Cardinals' active roster. What's this worth? Well, how much better do you feel knowing that Troy Glaus, and not Khalil Greene, is the first pinch hitter off the bench? Much will be made of Glaus's indifferent rehab with the bat (.216/.369/.392 in AAA), but the main problem he'll face in September, whether he's fully cleared to play third or not, is that there are too many warm bodies in front of him; DeRosa, Greene, and Thurston all have some claim to the position, and while none of them is a defensive wizard it's hard to imagine a situation in which Glaus will come in as a pinch hitter and then be needed defensively. 

Potentially useful analogue situation: Ryan Klesko's 2006 season, which began as a pinch-hitter at the end of September (he went 3-4 with two walks, giving him a year-end 388 OPS+) and ended in the beginning of October as designated pinch hitter against a certain Team of Destiny.I can't see La Russa forgoing "flexibility" in the bullpen and on the bench for a guy who might bat once a game, but sometimes I think he just needs a buzzword he can be excited about to make weird, out-of-character changes to the roster; if anything is going to get him excited about a pinch-hitter, it's Troy Glaus, who can Do Damage out of that nine spot with the best of them. 

Star-divide

The other September call-ups, at least for now, seem to be the usual, inexplicable choices—the third LOOGY and the third catcher. Taken in order of likely appearance, according to Goold's article: The third LOOGY might actually influence the outcome of a game, which makes it more worrisome, if also more understandable. Royce Ring is probably better than a lot of lefty specialists who have stuck in the bigs, but that doesn't make him very good; first round Future Closer hype aside, his formidable strikeout rates didn't translate to the high minors in 2004, and they don't now. 

(I hate to draw conclusions from so little data, but Ring's got weird splits for a lefty reliever. Unlike a prototypical LOOGY—Memphis teammate Charlie Manning, or Dennys Reyes—he doesn't pitch around righties at all; like prototypical LOOGYs, he gets pounded by righties. Get on it, future pitching coaches.) 

The compulsion to have two backup catchers is maybe the weirdest managerial tendency ever to gain widespread currency in Major League Baseball; it is something that is both nearly universal among managers and completely uninteresting to everyone else involved in baseball. My only explanation is that the managerial equivalent of the naked-in-public dream is one where Yadier Molina and Jason LaRue collide trying to field a fly ball and you, the manager, are forced to put on the gear and replace them. 

Anyway, it is what it is; if it helps La Russa sleep at night, and Bill DeWitt is willing to pay his meal money, it's not going to hurt the team. So the 28th Cardinal, due up some time after the end of the PCL season, will be Matt Pagnozzi, who is not a good enough hitter to play in the minor leagues, but who, to his credit, has been able to elevate his game in such a way that he's been equally below average at every level. 

#

Once more into the Dave Duncan trough—the New York Times, whose reporters don't fall under the purview of Elder Duncan's press embargo, ran an interesting piece about him on Sunday. It's all worth reading, but most interesting to the VEB demographic is the first extended description I can remember of his Tipping Pitches ideology: 

"You start looking at the individual numbers of a guy like Kyle Lohse," Duncan said, "and when there's hitters that have absurd numbers that they shouldn't have, that's a real indication that they know what's coming."

Duncan explained that when pitchers tipped their pitches, hitters would lay off the breaking stuff and wait to devour a fastball. That quickly gets inside the pitcher's befuddled head.

"When you have a pitcher that's afraid to throw a fastball that has a good one, that compounds your problem because you can't pitch without a fastball," Duncan said. "[...] If he has really good stuff and a variety of pitches and he's getting hammered, then there's a reason."

I wonder if Dunc reads Fangraphs? I'm being completely serious, here—one of the many unfortunate side-effects of the stats/scouts false dichotomy is that a guy like Dave Duncan, who "watches hours of film and keeps extensive charts of pitchers and opposing hitters", would probably dismiss a web site that facilitates the exact same thing out of hand. 

Anyway, their pitch values illustrate, at first glance, that the opposite effect has been key to Lohse's success in St. Louis; his fastball has been a little worse than his career average (although far better than it was in 2007), but his breaking pitches, including a curveball that used to get, well, devoured, became solid positives. That said, pitches aren't thrown without context; if Duncan's gameplan is to keep hitters from "[laying] off the breaking stuff", their increased tendency to make contact on pitches outside of the strike zone, where most non-Vlad hitters make a ton of outs, might be the result. 

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easy

1. Someone runs down Yadier Molina.
2. Jason LaRue breaks his hand breaking someone’s face.

Boom, two catchers gone in one minute. It could happen.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 7:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no Jinx!

Talking about Molina going down would be a close 4th to some first baseman going down.

No JINX, damnit.

by stlfan on Sep 1, 2009 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nah, they'd just sit him out for a game

You should see the other guy.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I find it hard to envisage a face

that could break Jason LaRue’s hand.

Maybe Mt Rushmore, that’s about it.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 1, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

that is true

so that would never happen.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you mean the actual statue

or the real life faces of George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, and Ted “Theodore Thunder” Roosevelt?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually Jason might not fare so well against them

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ol Honest Abe....

…can’t run like he used to…
:=8/

My hovercraft is full of eels!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Sep 1, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's the hat

Stovepipes never were very aerodynamic

Run Vince run! There's a tarp chasing you! Run! It's right behind you!

by TBender on Sep 1, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the fix was in

they couldn’t let Abe win. A victory for Lincoln is a victory for the Land of Lincoln, and Wisconsin won’t stand for that.

by STLRegalia on Sep 1, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats in washington

but i get your point

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 1, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh...ooops

for some reason I thought it was in Milwaukee. Guess I’ll pay better attention to the tv next time

by STLRegalia on Sep 1, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Milwaukee does the sausage races.

Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.

by Cardinals645 on Sep 1, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wash did recently have fake sausages at a race

At which point the Presidents kicked them down.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing like a good sausage kick-down

"Baseball has been good to me since I quit trying to play it." - Whitey Herzog

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Sep 1, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was Pittsburgh

MLB Network has a clip of one of the Pierogis taking out one of the Presidents.

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Sep 1, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw that one too

I remember the Wash. vs. fake sausages because the sausages were fake. They were like painted cardboard boxes. Also they wouldn’t beat down their own mascots… would they?

of course my memory could be faulty.

I saw the Brewers trust circle though!! I wasn’t imagining that.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

evidence

http://joesportsfan.com/?p=8880

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LaRue Cud GO Back....

…to his lucrative 70’s porn business…
;=8)

My hovercraft is full of eels!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Sep 1, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is where I really wish Stavinoha hadn't gotten hurt...

if you have to have them around, I like 3rd catchers who can do something else…not that Stav is a world beater, and if I got down to using him behind the plate, we’d REALLY be in trouble…at least Pags is a natural catcher.

by tbell61 on Sep 1, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and we had his nickname all ready.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dodgers have been making moves, and lots of them

Garland, Thome and Belliard? Am I missing anyone? Seems they are very concerned about their team lately.

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Sep 1, 2009 8:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Where do they fit?

Thome takes PAs away from Loney, who isn’t a world-beater or anything, but when was the last time Thome wore a firstbaseman’s mit? Furthermore, where does Belli fit in?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thome

2005 he was the Phillies first basemen and he has played 4 games at 1B for the Sox in 06 and 07 combined. But yeah nothing in the last couple of years. I think he is more of a late inning PH guy but who knows.

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Sep 1, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've heard in a couple of places (though might only be conjecture)

that Thome has been signed basically 100% as a pinch-hitter. He’s not even fielded 1B (I don’t think) in interleague for the Sox the last couple of years because of Konerko. Arguably would’ve made more sense for them to dump him on a contending AL club with a DH need, but it’s hard to see who that would be, now that the RedSox have got Victor Martinez. He’ll probably see more ABs off the bench for the Dodgers (I’m sure they’ll give him one per game, probably as the first-choice pinch-hitter), and it’s not out of the realm of possibility that they’ll use him occasionally for a few innings at 1B before bringing in Loney as a defensive replacement.

But yeah, does seem an odd move.

Belliard and Garland don’t really seem like impact moves either. Looks like Garland will get some starts for them but I don’t expect him to be in their playoff rotation if Kuroda comes back OK (in fact, he’s probably only there as cheap Kuroda-insurance).

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 1, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's definitely going to be strictly a bench force:
"We’re not bringing him over here to play first base," [Dodgers GM Ned] Colletti said. "We’re bringing him here to come off the bench and be a great influence in the clubhouse. He’s one of the true great guys in the game.

"In fact, the night before the deadline he called me. … He just said: `I just want to be honest with you. I’d love to come. I want to help you guys any way I can. But playing first base is not something I’m going to be able to do— maybe in an emergency situation, perhaps."

Link

"I'll be glad to have Ryan [Braun] help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy." - Doug Melvin

by all4tookie on Sep 1, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Based on the evidence,

the verdict is that Jim Thome is the Dodgers’ Troy Glaus…

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure he can.

He also still cashes large paychecks, which, pro-rated for the remainder of this year might not be all that bad for an organization like the Dodgers. He’s a nice weapon on the bench for Joe Torre, no doubt about it.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WS DH

Dodgers thinking long term too. Playoff rosters can be changed during each round so Thome may or may not appear in the NL series but would be quite useful if the Dodgers make the World Series

by ubeddie on Sep 1, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was gonna say that too

But didn’t want to get into any jinx arguments. Obviously he’d be great to have at DH in the AL park.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

id take

Glaus off the bench to crush some balls!

by RedJoker on Sep 1, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit Mo

Why didn’t you trade Yadier Molina for Jason Varitek? We need that clubhouse presence!

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

one stipulation is 'tek

HAS to keep his C on his jersey shoulder. We need a guy that everybody can rally behind!!!

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Sep 1, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

O captain, my captain

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got alittle captain in you

"i'm gonna make you an offer you can't refuse."- Marlon Brando

by Matt on Sports on Sep 1, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read somewhere (maybe have been the official mlb.com article)

that Thome was “physically unable to play first base,” whatever that means. I don’t know much about Thome’s health specifically. But I’d guess it would be unlikely he plays the field.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough

Doesn’t stop a lot of guys though.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's midwestern nicenees, personified, though.

(his hunting land is real close to my parents farm and they see him a few times a year during the offseason. He’s seriously a ridiculous nice guy.)

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 1, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

as in

Pujols ridiculous?

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 1, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

high praise, indeed

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 1, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I grew up in Canton

where is your parents’ farm?

by lawman3842 on Sep 1, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Off Stone School road

just southwest of Trivoli.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 1, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Canton, IL

you rubes!

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 1, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

canton, OH

home of the NFL hall of fame for some reason?

by spencegrif on Sep 1, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ohio sucks

6ly, never, evar come here

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 1, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Drew Carey said Cleveland rocks!

Who do I trust?!

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

me, always trust a dude on the internet you've never met

it’s science

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 1, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except we've met before

Don’t you remember when you were so sick and I stopped by your house? I think I changed your sig to “FOR RENT”

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come and look at both of our buildings

At least we’re not Detroit!
… we’re not Detroit!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's the perfect place if you're Ryan Braun....

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 2, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got a picture from my grandmother of my great, great, great grandfather taken in Canton, GA

He fought in the Civil War.

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jayne spent some time in Canton

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

And a statue,

made of clay.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everywhere I go, his eyes keep following me...

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be in my bunk

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Sep 1, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my favorite firefly line ever.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 1, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's up there for me

Jayne is full of favorite lines.
Two of mine are: “So does this! I call ’er Vera” and “That’s why I never kiss ’em on the mouth.”

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know what the chain of command is?

It’s the chain I go get and beat you with until you understand who’s in ruttin’ command here!

by Cardinal70 on Sep 1, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will.

Oh wait… THEY DON’T SPEAK ENGLISH.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 1, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

People Eat Tasty Animals

PETA fully endorses that last comment.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Sep 1, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love animals..

they’re delicious.

"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson

by MUGATU on Sep 1, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to the

Yahoo baseball blog, “Thome’s fragile health won’t allow him to play defense except in an emergecy. Suffering from a chronic bad back and frequently sore left heel, Thome has played 28 innings at first base since returning to the American League in 2006 — and none since ’07.”
That sounds like a pretty unpleasant physical situation for him.

by BTown Birds fan on Sep 1, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like

a guy who would be out of baseball if it weren’t for this rule they have in this other league where hitters don’t have to play defense.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Sep 1, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except for the whole "physically unable to play in the field" factor.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's the worst he can be at first?

-10 runs? Loney’s about average, so Thome would have to be at least 10 runs better than him with the bat to be an upgrade. ZIPS projects Thome to have a .365 wOBA, and we can probably bump that up .005 points for moving to the NL. Loney projects to have a .343 wOBA; which is about 14 runs worse. So it’s a slight upgrade at best, but it might manifest itself in some high leverage at bats in the playoffs.

Smoltz.

by vivaelpujols on Sep 1, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thome says he literally can't play 1B

Back pain and foot pain. Can’t do it.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 1, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aah

DAMN good pinch hitter then. I wonder who the Sox got back; if it’s anyone promising this is an awful trade for the Dodgers.

Smoltz.

by vivaelpujols on Sep 1, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dunno

And given the drop almost everyone has while pinch hitting I’d venture to say he’s not even that great.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 1, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read that it was Justin Fuller

I know nothing about him. Prospect geeks, fire away.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

when you have Belly to play 2nd it is!

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 1, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently, not.

I’m not saying that he is so bad as a defensive first baseman that he cannot play the field. From what he said to the L.A. GM, he is literally physically incapable, due to his back injury and bum heel, of playing in the field.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

over ~100 PA's

it’s more like 2.5 runs, right?

it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie

by SleepyCA on Sep 1, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe he was signed specifically to destroy

the Cards in the Post season. I hate seeing him in the NL.

"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl

by RiverRat on Sep 1, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 1, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think so...

He’s one of the few guys coming out of the Steroid era that will smell of roses IMO. 5 AS games, no MVP’s (4 top ten votes)….564 HR. It will be an interesting case.

"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl

by RiverRat on Sep 1, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He should be a first-ballot HOFer.

Unfortunately, I agree with joker24, that it will take awhile, which is longer than it should take, IMO.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

first-ballot. He’s one of the 10 best players in his generation, that should be first ballot consensus every time. If he goes back to the AL as a DH he might yet get to 600+ homers.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Sep 1, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.

by effin fisk on Sep 1, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should be

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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 1, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

interesting

2, 5, 6 are our division rivals.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 8:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, That's because Heyman picked us 4th in the division

so you know, he has to justify that somehow

Albert Pujols is ridiculous.

by stlhulsey on Sep 1, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

4th? hfs.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh my gob hahaha
Instead, St. Louis should be on the lookout for the next Carpenter—or Piñeiro, at least—such as journeyman righthander Paul Byrd or former Braves southpaw Chuck James, both of whom have been effective at times, but whose teams gave up on them. The value is in finding and fixing guys, then letting someone else pay the big bucks for the work they gave you.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

James is sort of intriguing as a FAT pickup.

Crappy FB, trouble with walks and HRs? Dave Duncan has something to sell you…

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 1, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forgive my ignorance

What does FAT stand for/mean?

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FAT

equals Freely Available Talent

Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...

by giveml on Sep 1, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gracias

In some cases I guess it should be FA"T"

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

basically, guys who can be had for the league minimum

or on minor league deals who are probably above replacement.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 1, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Burwell Article

Did he actually say anything in that piece?
I got out of it…….there is a problem with Duncan and the front office and someone should fix it.

by RedJoker on Sep 1, 2009 8:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well

as long as you don’t use data and spreadsheets…..you are a smart guy

by RedJoker on Sep 1, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Related Fan Post

So one of the “related” fan posts for today’s post is this one where gocards62 makes the “conservative” prediction that the Cards would only get a .600 winning percentage in August:

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2009/8/1/971818/600-ball-in-august

They ended up with a .769WP in the month.

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Sep 1, 2009 8:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

who knew?

Hey, at least I made a prediction :))

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by gocards62 on Sep 1, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a nice problem to have

that is, the problem of your prediction for an awesome August being too conservative.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe I'll should do the same for the rest of the year

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by gocards62 on Sep 1, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll ONLY win the WS in 6 games

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Call me Nuttier than a bag of...Well, Nuts, but....

…cudn;t we use one last ROOGY in the ‘pen? Dotal and Linebrick are available, probably fer cheeeep. Both are solid vets; Dotel is better VS righties, Linebrick vs lefties. Dotel is rated 0.6 WAR, while Linebrick comes out even-steven at 0.0 WAR. I’m not saying we give up much for either, I just think we should cowsider, especially Dotel.

My hovercraft is full of eels!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Sep 1, 2009 10:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Deadline has passed

"I'll be glad to have Ryan [Braun] help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy." - Doug Melvin

by all4tookie on Sep 1, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

did you forget the "/sarcasm" at the end of that post?

I really don’t know why we would need to acquire a middling (at best) ROOGY from outside the system for a small role in a few largely inconsequential baseball games.

"I'll be glad to have Ryan [Braun] help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy." - Doug Melvin

by all4tookie on Sep 1, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe we could trade for Blaine Boyer?

Now THAT’S sarcasm!

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 1, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

zing!

"I'll be glad to have Ryan [Braun] help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy." - Doug Melvin

by all4tookie on Sep 1, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's not and Say We Did....

Wait we actually DID!
:=8O

My hovercraft is full of eels!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Sep 1, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm amazed that there isn't anyone to call up

Not one single ROOGY who might catch lightning in a bottle? If for no other reason then to give McClellan and Motte a break, they should bring up some RHP.

by OCCardsFan on Sep 1, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would say that...

Walters will be up soon (once the AAA playoffs are over kind of thing) and possibly Kinney or Wellemeyer but neither of them are exciting to me right now.

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Sep 1, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's What Im Sayin'.....

…if KMac or Motte (!) falter, and let’s face it neither one are ‘lights out’, do we want our precious play-off games decided by the likes of Wellemyer, Walters, or Kinney? Wouldn’t you feel better with, say Dotel? A vet who has 83 career saves and play-off experience? A guy who’s career VS righties BA/OB%/SLG% is .208/.282/.380 – isn’t that worth a midling minor leaguer to have that kind of insurance in the ‘pen? Someone who’s pro-rated cowtract can’t amount to moore than a mil?

If we’re ‘all in’ for this year, we should really go ‘all in’; udderwise, to lose a championship because of a weak middle relief bullpen would really suck.

My hovercraft is full of eels!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Sep 1, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And that is why Smoltz was brought in

Smoltz will probbaly be in the Pen come September and Lohse will be the 3rd starter. That also gives you Boggs in the Pen, or another bench spot to use on Glaus if you carry less pitchers.

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Sep 1, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who is Pineiro?

You may run like Hayes, but you hit like shit.

by flipthebird on Sep 1, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that or semantics

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alt + 164

= ñ

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not on Macs

on Macs Alt + 164 yields: ¡§¢

Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.

by Cardinals645 on Sep 1, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh,

îñ†é®é߆îñg…

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 1, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

drunk with power

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 1, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or

&ntilde ;

with no space before the semicolon

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Piñiero RULEZ

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Sep 1, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He Has ...

…that fresh pine scent!

My hovercraft is full of eels!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Sep 1, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bah!

yeah that is what I meant

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Sep 1, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The way Smoltz has pitched I doubt Lohse supplants him should it continue

15 Ks, 1 BB, with groundballs? Granted the Pads are basically a minor league team, but the Nats offense isn’t. Plus he’s a BigGame® pitcher, and it is hard to argue with a career 2.65 postseason ERA in 207 inning. Should he continue to dominate I don’t see how you pull the plug on him starting.

I think they could probably tell Lohse “look we understand you’ve been banged up this season and that’s why we’re going with the hot hand, we still believe in you going into next year but it’s GoForIt™ time” or some such BS.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 1, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you explain to Smoltz...

that you’d like to have him available out of the pen in the first two games of a series as a RH setup that can get you a K. He knows that we are unlikely to NEED a fourth starter in the postseason. I’d prefer they try him in that role a couple of times before October…but I imagine he can handle it just fine.

"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs

by cardzfanbub on Sep 1, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus the largest number imaginable by a human being

starters on three days rest in the post season almost always suck.

I would prefer Lohse find his way and Smoltz in the ’pen, but no 3-man rotation unless they can somehow get full rest.

Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...

by giveml on Sep 1, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its not a problem if we win the first 3 games

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Sep 1, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

in the first round

anyway

Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...

by giveml on Sep 1, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2003 Josh Beckett disagrees

(back before he became infected with the papple virus)

by STLRegalia on Sep 1, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From 1995 - 2008

starting pitchers in the playoffs pitching with three days rest have compiled the following numbers:

84 games
20-34 W/L
4.67 ERA

linky

Sorry it is not more saberesque and has no comparisons for how the same pitchers pitched on regular rest, but I think you get the idea. Unless you have a sinkerballer or knuckler, Josh Beckett in 2003 aside, it is probably a bad idea.

Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...

by giveml on Sep 1, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bob Gibson

didn’t suck on 3 days rest.

by ridgesee on Sep 1, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fixed

 Bob Gibson didn’t suck on 3 days rest

the question would be how much better, worse, or neither was Gibson (or any other pitcher) on 3 days rest vs 4 days. Then compare it to the pitcher he would be replacing and see if this is a worthwhile trade off.

by FunkeeC on Sep 1, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gibby was even studly on

two days rest with a 4-0 record in five career starts totally 44.1 IP. I was surprised that he threw well over twice as many innings on four days rest as on three.

link

Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...

by giveml on Sep 2, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course

guys like Gibby and Apu can do things, like playing hurt, that is not a good idea for mere mortal ballplayers.

Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...

by giveml on Sep 2, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For some reason...

I was thinking there were usually two off-days in the first four games. I think if Smoltz pitches an inning in game one or two he’s still available to start game four…just skip his normal BP session and he should have two or three days of rest before game four.

I’d MUCH rather have Smoltz face a couple of tough righties in innings seven or eight of a close game than KMac or Motte!! He’s much less likely to give up the BB or a hard hit ball.

"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs

by cardzfanbub on Sep 1, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So do I.

We’re a couple of pretty smart guys. I think this accord means that we’re right.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 1, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm not smart but I agree

…does that help or hurt your argument?

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Sep 1, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my argument was pretty facetious to start with.

I can’t imagine you could’ve done anything to damage it.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 2, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Numerous days off in postseason

Because of tv schedule, there are numerous days off. The fourth starter would make a maximum number of three starts in the entire post season.

The only short rest appearance (weather permitting) would be #1 starter in NLDS game 4 and #1 starter for NLCS game 4. The fourth starter would pitch WS game 4. Length of each series does mean the #1 starter could change between NLDS and NLCS.

IMO, Smoltz is more valuable going out of the pen than starting. Lots of off days so he wouldn’t have to pitch back to back very often.

by ubeddie on Sep 1, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That depends on the situation

In an elimination game I’ll take Carp on 3 days rest and then have Smoltz for the middle innings if necessary.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Sep 1, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We can't bring someone in now anyway

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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 1, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Walters will be up soon (once the AAA playoffs are over kind of thing) and possibly Kinney or Wellemeyer but neither of them are exciting to me right now.

Welley got lit up last night vs. Nashville

.2 IP (yep, that 2/3 of an inning!), 3H, 4R, 2BB, 1K, 1HR

Only excites opponent batters.

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by gocards62 on Sep 1, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

I don’t want Welley up if possible

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Sep 1, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THAT'S A LOT OF NUTS!!

1,000 Internet Dollars for the first to pick up the reference.

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Sep 1, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

your mother last night in bed, Trebek?

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 1, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better hand over the cash

a very under-rated “Kung Pow”.

by RabidBuffalo on Sep 1, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well played

First, a joke. What do you get when you cross an owl with a bungee cord? [pause] My ass. Nyah, haha, haha, haha … ENOUGH!

Please, stop. Wimp Lo sucks as a fighter, a child could beat him. – Well, I’m gonna count to three, and if I hear one more friggin’ squeak, I’m gonna take his shoes, and shove em’ up his…

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Sep 1, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better watch out

Betty will kick your butt!

by RabidBuffalo on Sep 1, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree 100%

I’d have loved to have someone else to add to the bullpen, so that Smoltz can stay in the rotation, but as has been said, it’s too late now.

I don’t understand why we’re not taking every RHRP we can get our hands on and throwing him against the wall until someone sticks. It’s kind of irresponsible, really. If we don’t advance in the playoffs/win the WS because of our right-handed relievers…I don’t even know what to say here. But we’ll all look back on this and say, “I fucking knew it.”

Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.

by Cardinals645 on Sep 1, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no sound. doesn't matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0sGJKBqBBk

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that is the worst announcing i have ever heard

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 1, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's from fanfest

that’s why mlb hasn’t pulled it. mute it, I should’ve said.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn straight you should've!

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 1, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

multitasking

it came out as “no sound”

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah and i thought:

“that idiot, there is too sound…” if only my mind would have been working a little better this morning.

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 1, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

“Brandon Lidge”
“If there is anyone else I would want here it’s Albert Pujols”

please, make the brain register the word mute next time, now my ears are sad

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 1, 2009 11:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

MUTE

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very good

And well played, sir

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 1, 2009 12:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

my own fault for language fail, really

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that scene NEVER gets old...

Don't ping my cheese with your bandwidth.

by RosevilleRedbird on Sep 1, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not even 2,000 fans watch history
"You could hear everything," Reds manager Dusty Baker said. "I saw one guy who was missing a finger catch a foul ball, and I could hear him say, ‘That hurt like hell,’ but he caught it. That’s one of those days where everyone could get a foul ball and a T-shirt."

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Reds Pirates doubleheader

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap?gid=290831317

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't it though?

Calcaterra’s take, as per usual, was funny and dead on:

There was no one there. Like, 2000 people. Which is a crime considering how nice a day it was in Ohio yesterday. Sure, it was just a makeup game and sure it was the Pirates, but if there aren’t at least a couple thousand more office drones, college students, and other assorted knuckleheads that can make it to a walkable ballpark on a glorious afternoon then our civilization is circling the damn drain.

“And That Happened” has joined the ranks of Goold’s “10@10” as a daily must-read.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks,

been busy and thought I missed something.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 1, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Matt Pagnozzi's minor league stats make me vomit a little

and it’s coffee flavored barf. But I guess it could be worse… it could be a crappy player at a position that actually matters.
Troy Glaus could contribute something I suppose. It’s just too bad he’s the only player who can hit that we have down in Memphis who can be called on to play 3B in an emergency…

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 11:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Coffee flavored barf doesn't sound THAT bad

Sushi barf is much worse. I don’t know what happens to sushi when it’s in your stomach but it goes from delicious to the worst thing I’ve ever tasted in my life. As I was puking I literally thought “Oh my god that makes me wanna puke………oh yeah, fitting.”

In any case, Matt Pagnozzi is going to officially be a big leaguer. Eww.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 1, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sushi is not any fun to throw up.

But, having attempted the “gallon challenge” three times, I can verify that milk is actually high on a list of things I don’t mind throwing up. It’s not really that unpleasant.

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by azruavatar on Sep 1, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My personal favorite is *cold* beer

Gotta love beer bongs.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 1, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also good

I hate throwing up anything bread like because it makes me feel like I’m choking.

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by azruavatar on Sep 1, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I threw up wild rice, once.

Worst experience ever.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 1, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chewing is overrated

Fun fact: The food industry actually designs food to require less chewing so that you eat it faster and it’s easier for your stomach to break down. Bread (especially white) is so overprocessed that it nearly falls apart on purpose.

Eating healthy isn’t much fun but it certainly forces you to chew. Chicken, vegetables etc. don’t just disintegrate naturally.

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by azruavatar on Sep 1, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So true.

I buy this locally-baked whole grain bread with sunflower seeds in it. There’s a lot of chewing required, and it doesn’t dissolve on your tongue like commercial breads.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 1, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another fun fact.

McDonald’s actually designs their seats and tables to be slightly uncomfortable so people will leave sooner and turnover increases.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Sep 1, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I knew it!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's all that damn Mayor McCheese's idea!

"Baseball has been good to me since I quit trying to play it." - Whitey Herzog

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Sep 1, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had a great example of this the other day

I actually sat down for a meal there and they had 70’s easy listening music playing in the seating area. Just sickeningly bland drivel coming from the speakers, making me want to hurl the food I just ate. (Or it could’ve been the food; probably not, as I’m basically immune to their breakfast menu after many, many meals out.) It was even worse in the bathroom, where no man could withstand the onslaught of Anne Murray on full blast. I vacated (both ways) as quickly as I could.

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Sep 1, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bread in America is, in my experience, pretty vile

/sophisticated European palate snob

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 1, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey man

get your biscuits straight before you talk to me about food

shit is a cookie!

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And if the bread is so much better there

then why’d they lose the war???

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, SHIT

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One of my favorite things about France,

is fresh bread daily. It’s pretty awesome. Plus, it’s cheap and incredibly convenient.

I don’t know why they lost the war. After all, they had the Maginot Line. Wait, what? They lost because they had the Maginot Line?! You’re kidding me?! Good thing we had the Atlantic Ocean to protect us from the Blitzkrieg

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was actually thinking of the Revolutionary war

Which is funny to me, because France is one of the biggest reasons we won. Irony! I love it.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's a reason,

that the first Americans to land in France during WW I said “Lafayette, we are here.”

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

French bread was the bomb when I was there

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I ordered some sourdough bread from Paris

On a whim after reading an article about how great it was, I ordered a 3lb loaf from a famous bakery in Paris. Paid a lot of money (cost and shipping) to get this thing and it shows up as a round brick. 1/2 inch thick crust, no moisture whatsoever … whoever thinks that this is what bread should be needs to be beaten severely.

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Sep 1, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know that they use much in the way of preservatives

They sell their baked goods daily, fresh, and without plastic wrapping. I don’t know that I’d order anything from a Paris bakery. By the time it got here, it’d probably be a brick. I know that when I bought mine fresh, it wouldn’t last more than two days or so.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think getting bread shipped halfway round the world is a good idea

it’s meant to be eaten the day it’s baked, ideally…

so, yeah, what they said.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 2, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, the whole reason the gallon challenge is so difficult,

is because your body is scarcely able to metabolize most of the milk you’re drinking, so unless it passes into your intestine quickly it’s only moderate diluted by stomach acid when it comes up.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 1, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the other hand, sushi doesn't come back as the artfully arranged delicacy it went down as-

instead it’s a pile of masticated fish and seaweed mixed with whatever you’ve been drinking.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 1, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mmmmmmm.....

…masticated fish and seaweed…

My hovercraft is full of eels!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Sep 1, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obviously you're the expert on mastication

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 1, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

please masticate in private

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

U Try Havin' 4 Stomachs...

:=8/

My hovercraft is full of eels!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Sep 1, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus I like lots of wasabi

So it’s also spicy in addition to acidy.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 1, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A guy in my lab in HS spun down a gallon in the centrifuge

put the supernatant back in the milk jug and tried to cheat his way to victory. He still couldn’t finish.

by brackenthebox on Sep 1, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The sheer volume is problematic.

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by azruavatar on Sep 1, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm
But, having attempted the "gallon challenge" three times…

your not as smart of a robot as i had originally thought…

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 1, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and neither am i...

*you’re

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 1, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've also tried to swallow a tablespoon full fo cinamon

Hint: It burns.

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by azruavatar on Sep 1, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My old roommate was trying to be a hardass...

Talking about how that crushed red pepper you put on pizza isn’t hot. So I told him to but a spoonful in his mouth if he’s so damn tough, which he did. Hilarity ensued.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 1, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dave's Ultimate Insanity Sauce is the cruelest bet anyone can make

It’s not even hot, it’s pure pain. I mean really, it isn’t spicy, it’s just like someone stabbed your tongue. I own this sauce.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 1, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I've tried it before.

It’s not even food, really. It’s more like a torture instrument.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of pure pain, may I present

The bullet ant

Also, check out this ritual performed by South American tribes involving these creatures

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeebus

The stuff about the Schmidt Sting Pan Index is pretty cool. The Tarantula Hawk is my new favorite badass insect.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the detailed description of each insect's sting

Tarantula hawk: Blinding, fierce, shockingly electric. A running hair drier has been dropped into your bubble bath. (Does that mean you get killed from electric shock when one of these things bites you?)

Bullet ant: Pure, intense, brilliant pain. Like fire-walking over flaming charcoal with a 3-inch rusty nail in your heel.

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's like fine wine or something.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I once saw...

…and individual coat his pizza with that stuff and eat the whole thing w/o taking a drink. I’ve never seen someone so uncomfortable. I literally thought he was going to kick over dead.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 1, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's absolutely no way it was Ultimate Insanity

You just couldn’t do it, there’s no way. I like spicy food, spicy food no one else will touch, and like I said that isn’t spicy, it’s just pain—-there is no “flavor” sensation, it is pain.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 1, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hell I don't know what it was

It was just the red flaked crap in the glass deal. For all I know it was a shredded and dried Cardinals shirt. But the guy looked on the verge of death.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 1, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh I was looking at the wrong reply

Crushed red pepper for pizzas, thought you were replying to me.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 1, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Once, I was finally recovering from an illness

and drank a quart of chocolate milk to celebrate.

I then decided this was a bad idea, and that I should yak it up before it made me sick again.

The odd thing about throwing it up so soon after I had consumed it, is that it was still cold and still tasted like chocolate milk.

Best throw up experience, ever.

Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.

by Cardinals645 on Sep 1, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

That is really all I have to say.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Sep 1, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's 'cause moo juice

even in chocolate form, rocks!

:=8D

And the milk coats yer insides so it doesn’t burn.

My hovercraft is full of eels!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Sep 1, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ribeye rocks.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Sep 1, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sirloin man, myself

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

indeed, indeed

or porterhouse

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think I could eat an entire porterhouse

12 oz. sirloin and a loaded baked potato is about right wrt portions

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Sep 1, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you haven't got your OMS yet

old man stomach

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Sep 1, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want to try a bone in ribeye.

having a hard time finding one, though.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 1, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never had one

Probably delicious

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go to the butcher and ask for a

Rib Steak. That’s all I get as far as steaks go.

"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl

by RiverRat on Sep 1, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My butcher won't do 'em

only cut of meat he’s turned me away for. I may have to cheat on him.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 1, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that the bone

does add flavor when cooking it, and they are usually at least a buck a pond cheaper than a “ribeye”. Best steak out there, IMO.

"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl

by RiverRat on Sep 1, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Booooooo!

To all of you!
:=8P

My hovercraft is full of eels!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Sep 2, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec

Ribeye is the best cut of steak I know. Filet gets a big reputation, and it is remarkably tender, but I find ribeye to be much more flavorful.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 1, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To me

It’s much easier to cook a good ribeye because of all the marbling and fat, but a great Filet can’t be touched.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 1, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

re: earlier American bread sucks comments

American steak is, IMO, just the best in the world (at least that I’ve tasted). I second all the ribeye recommendations. I also have a soft spot for hanger steak (which is criminally hard to get over here) and very good rump. Fillet has never really interested me.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 2, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WORST SUBTHREAD EVER.

DO NOT SPEAK OF THIS AGAIN.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 1, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Doubt

On a related note, did you know that if you shove food up your ass you’ll crap out of your mouth?

I wonder which foods create the tastiest shit? Discuss.

(NO DON’T DISCUSS)

"There are three things the average man thinks he can do better than anybody else: build a fire, run a hotel and manage a baseball team."- Rocky Bridges

by That's a Winner on Sep 1, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I contend that this is better than a football subthread.

Or at least close.

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by azruavatar on Sep 1, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I will agree with this sentiment.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 1, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

football threads are easier to tune out.

I read those as “blah blah blah Auburn blabbity-blab SEC blah-blah-blah tailgating at notre dame game blah blah Pujols >oh good, they stopped talking football<.”

when i read this thread, i try to skim and i get “blah blah vomited 74 raw eggs through my nostrils. . . .” you can’t gloss over that shit.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 1, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's still very weird

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 1, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pagnozzi

You should see the actual events that give rise to those statistics. It’s like reading about a massacre as compared to actually witnessing one firsthand. Watching Matt Pagnozzi play baseball is painful to watch. He isn’t particularly good at defense and is particularly awful with a bat in his hands. Watch Cardinals games with fear, my friend, for soon you may behold his awfulness…

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I'd almost rather have Robert Stock than Matt Pagnozzi

if we’re talking about a third catcher. Then there’s always whats-his-face. You know, that catcher guy in the minor leagues. What ever happened to him and those 17 third basemen that used to be prospects? I’m sure they’re not available or anything.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the topic of Stock

Dunno if we should be getting too excited about him just yet. Rookie ball is a total joke.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 1, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I know, don't worry. Lots of potential and all but there's a loooong way to go before he's "the real deal"

I just really don’t care for Matt Pagnozzi

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems we're possibly gonna commit to Pags next year

thing is, given that he’ll cost the league minimum, and LaRue has only cost about $400k more than that the last two years, AND LaRue is actually competent behind the dish and with the bat, I wonder if it’s not a better idea just to keep him. Whilst Molina usually starts about 90% of the games anyway, if he ever got HURT, even just for a fortnight or two, I really wouldn’t want to see Pagnozzi making starts over an extended period of time. Ugh.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 1, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if

we can sign him for like 700-800k, go for it. if not, give paggs the chance and when he fails maybe there’s some other catcher in the organization that i actually good behind the dish and still surely has at least some potential to be a decent ML hitter by catchers’ standards

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Failure.

Pags failing will be like Ankiel failing. And we’ll have to suffer through it.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

meh maybe

i still have a feeling that that one guy, something about one of the best defensive catchers in the history of the game or something similar might just pan out. of course, we could always sell high on him and trade for jermaine dye

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they will make more.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who is they

and what are they making more of?

the cardinals will make more yadis? your sig is true!

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't ever doubt it.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

all those pickoffs now make sense

they replicated albert’s processors as best they could and now have a yadi factory in the luhnow’s basement. no wonder yadi and albert are so close. little does albert know, yadi is a failed albert cloning experiment

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what? no

separate model.

we do not know where albert originates. we are assured that there can be only one.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've seen Matt Pagnozzi,

and he is not that impressive defensively. I would suggest that he isn’t even that much better than that other guy who got hurt. Oh, what’s his name….

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that other guy

i thought he was supposed to be the superior offensive and defensive catcher. just something about him not sliding out of tony’s vag hurt his chances

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The conclusion of your comment made me laugh out loud.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pags failing will be like Ankiel failing. And we’ll have to suffer through it.

Pags will not hit anywhere NEAR as well as Ankiel’s hit this year. Ank’s been about a replacement-level hitter. No WAY Pagnozzi even sniffs replacement level. I’d be surprised if he OPSes much more than .500-something.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 2, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anderson is rehabbing

he was hurt most of the year

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Sep 1, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i threw up a seafood tostado last weekend...

it did not make my list of top things to throw up…

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 1, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this looks way out of place down here

and very random…sorry.

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 1, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should have known that if I brought up vomiting it would turn into a crazy tangential conversation.

Tangent to the tangent: am I the only person who thinks it is very unintentionally funny to hear my peers refer to vomit as “throw-up”? I mean as a noun, not as a verb. As in, “Oh man, this guy got sick next to me and now I have throw-up all over my shirt. Gross.” I can’t bring myself to say it that way unless I’m intentionally doing it to be stupid.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the shitload conversation was interesting as well.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's very juvenile

brits call it “sick”

i got some sick on me trousers!

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sick, vomit or puke, generally.

“Throw-up” as a noun hasn’t made it here in any real form, I don’t think.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 1, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to James' Law of Catcher Defense

Matt ought to be pretty good— or at least percieved that way.

The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!

by Zubin on Sep 1, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TLR's perception.

In reality, he isn’t really that good. Based on watching him play, I wouldn’t say he is that good at defense. Certainly not good enough to play him given his inability to strike a pitched baseball with a wooden bat.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dont you mean

strike a pitched base ball with a wooden bat?

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 1, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pags is the ultimate james law candidate

he might be the best defensive catcher who ever lived.

by DanUpBaby on Sep 1, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a theory about catcher defense

which may very well be bullshit.

The theory is this:

Catcher defense is not very important (in terms of “value over average/replacement”). This is because most full-time catchers, at the major league level, can catch a baseball very well, block pitches adequately (rarely an issue anyway – passed balls and wild pitches are pretty rare and the difference in catchers’ abilities to prevent is probably minimal) and throw the ball reasonably. Those that can’t throw well or have low CS %s actually end up getting run on MORE, so that they end up ultimately picking off a similar % of runners to really good throws (like Yadi), who hardly ever get run on, so that difference becomes minimal. Also, I feel that, whilst framing pitches and game-calling is a bit of a dark art for us mere spectators, there doesn’t seem to be that much to it that, given the same bench (who call a lot of the game anyway) and the same pitcher, two different catchers won’t have hugely different results.

So, in summary, I’m beginning to wonder if, because the DIFFERENCE in defensive skills between the best and worst catchers is less than, say, the best and worst shortstops or second basemen, that, at least at the major league level, catcher defense is severely over-rated.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 1, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is interesting

I would like to request a Fanpost, not a mere Fanshot.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree a wee bit

 I do agree that in general catcher defense is over-rated. But I’d say this is true of the top 90% of catchers. There are some— or there have been— catchers that weren’t actually very good at catching the ball. (Anyone remember Porter at the end of his career with the Rangers?) I have also seen catchers that weren’t particularly willing to get dirty by snagging a would be wild pitch or by blocking the plate.

That being said, I believe there have been statistical analyses of catchers that show they have evry little effect on ERA.

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by Zubin on Sep 1, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there has to be some metric of the future

measuring how much stress a bad catcher puts on a pitcher, and how much that costs the team.

To my eye, a good catcher may not save that many runs but a bad catcher might cost the team somehow.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree with that last sentence

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by Zubin on Sep 1, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

see: Posada

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do agree that in general catcher defense is over-rated. But I’d say this is true of the top 90% of catchers. There are some— or there have been— catchers that weren’t actually very good at catching the ball. (Anyone remember Porter at the end of his career with the Rangers?) I have also seen catchers that weren’t particularly willing to get dirty by snagging a would be wild pitch or by blocking the plate.

But are any of those really bad ones catching now? To my (admittedly untrained) eye, even though Yadi is great at blocking, seems to call a decent game, and picks guys off (and kills the running game) at a rate that is genuinely valuable, even supposedly poor defensive catchers who actually have a day-to-day job in MLB these days can field the position well. In fact, I’m struggling to think of a genuinely bad receiver currently with a first-team job, at least off the top of my head.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 2, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mark the tape

Glaus will start a game by the end of the week.

by Harknights on Sep 1, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In left field.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How didn't we call up Allen Craig?

This is so frustrating.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 11:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They aren't going to deplete the minors until they know whether they're out of the playoffs or not.

There will be several callups in another week or so.

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by azruavatar on Sep 1, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always forget that it's not an all-at-once roster change.

I’ll stop making vague complaints about it for a while in that case.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah but

he won’t be eligible for the post season

right?

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

25-man on August 31st

- Anybody who goes on the 60-day DL
+ Anybody who was “in the organization” on August 31st
___________________________________
25-man post-season roster

So, we could DL joe thurston and call up shelby miller. As long as you make space for the player by putting someone on the DL, and the replacement was somewhere in the organization on Aug. 31st, they can be called up.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 1, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and have to be on the 40 man roster too, right?

which would exclude lots of players…… Craig being one.

by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Sep 1, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you'd have to be put on the 40-man before joining the postseason roster, but you

don’t have to be put on the 40-man by Aug. 31st. you just have to be somewhere in the organization on Aug. 31st.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 1, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

from wekipedia...
Each Major League Baseball team maintains both a 25-man roster and a 40-man roster of players. Players on the 25-man roster are eligible to play in official major league games throughout the season. The 40-man roster includes the players on the 25-man roster plus as many as 15 players who are either on the team’s 15-day disabled list (see below) or who are in the team’s minor league system. From September 1 through the end of the regular season, any player on the 40-man roster (also referred to as the “expanded roster”) is eligible to play in an official regular season game. Many young players make their Major League debuts in this way, as “September call-ups”. Players must be on a team’s 25-man roster as of August 31 to be eligible for post-season play. The only exception is that a player on the 60-day disabled list may be replaced by another player from the team’s 40-man roster (as of August 31) who plays the same position.

From what I understand is this….. to be on the post season roster, you must be on the 25 man roster on Aug. 31st.
To be called up in Sept., you must be on the 40 man roster. Unless they have changed the rules….. this is how I’ve always remembered it.

by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Sep 1, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this was recently changed.

see this discussion about the Phils adding a AAA player to the ML disabled list.

Ennis is recovering from Tommy John elbow ligament replacement surgery on April 21. He won’t be healthy. But his presence on the DL allows the Phillies to add any player that is in the organization on Aug. 31 to the postseason roster.

That is how left-hander J.A. Happ made the postseason roster last year. Pitchers Scott Mathieson and Mike Zagruski were on the 60-day disabled list, which allowed the Phillies to take Happ.

see also the discussion of Happ’s being added to the 40-man here.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 1, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no place for a

.320/..371/.546 RH bat

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by gocards62 on Sep 1, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, but *plenty* of room for .229/.282/.395 LH bat.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to have to turn my twitter feed off

once baseball is done. it’s already infected with a bunch of football bullshit and they haven’t even played a real game yet.

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by azruavatar on Sep 1, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well

he said he broke a rib……no actual doctor has confirmed that yet. And how bout that hit last night?

by RedJoker on Sep 1, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep...god i hate football season.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Sep 1, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

some of this is quite sad

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/beloit-college-mindset-list-baseball-version/

You better start edumecating them kids. Before you tell them to get off your lawn.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

my first college pitching appearance

was a start against Beloit in the Gene Cussic Classic in Fort Myers…ah the memories…

by STLRegalia on Sep 1, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Im only23 and I remember playing ken Griffey jr baseball on nintendo (back when you couldn’t have players real names in the game), the expos being up and coming world beaters to combat the great braves pitching of Avery, smoltz, glavine, maddux (Avery looked like he would be the best of the four) before the strike, the torre era, people thinking interleague would fail. In fact the first baseball I ever watched was the 91 ws with my dad and I still think game 7 between Morris and smoltz was the greatest game ever (oh and Lonnie smith is still the worst baserunner ever to me) and Im only 23

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 1, 2009 12:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

In the two years before the strike

Maddux won the Cy Young consecutively. Then he won the Cy in the strike year….and the year after. I’m pretty sure Steve Avery never looked like he’d be better than Maddux.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 1, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would be not was

And that’s what I remeber hearing a lot, either way I was young and Im too lazy to look stuff up so Im going on my memory of the days when I also watched power rangers and ren and stumpy so needless to say I wasn’t brilliant at that point in my life

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 1, 2009 1:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Kyle Lohse the Bubble Boy
Cardinals starter Kyle Lohse threw a bullpen session Sunday, the second of his in-house rehab assignment. It was before his previous one that Lohse attempted to add some levity to what’s been an unlucky season for the righthander. Walking out of the trainers’ room last week and delighted by how his groin, forearm, elbow, knee and back all felt, Lohse spied a box of bubblewrap that the Cardinals use for packing. When he emerged again from the training room, Lohse — who first described this on "The Hot Corner" radio show I co-host Sunday morning’s on 101.1 FM/ESPN — had bubblewrap around both elbows, his knee, his back and his groin. "Everything felt really good," Lohse told me later in the clubhouse, "and with the way things have been going I didn’t want to take any risks before I got on the mound."

Source

by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 1, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we may have a nickname!

It beats Kal-El.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

at last!

kyle lohse is now bubble boy

or just bb (uh oh, maybe not now that i’ve typed that out)

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about "Moops?"

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by gocards62 on Sep 1, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Duncan's new son?
Thirteen times this summer, he has started a game and not allowed a walk. For this, he credits his father

Fling in Puerto Rico in the 70’s, Dave?

by STLRegalia on Sep 1, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ewww.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tony never told you what happened to your father……

by Cardinal70 on Sep 1, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cardinal's team fip

best in baseball 3.64!

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

yep

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank the star(ter)s

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by azruavatar on Sep 1, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

wrote about this in my fanpost, Pitching FTW

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

only needs 2 more recs...

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are shameless...

But I’ll rec it out of the kindness of my heart.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 1, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why, thank you

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You need 6 recs, though...

I was just #4, so you still need 2 more.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 1, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, crap

thought it was 5 recs, maybe they upped the ante

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's my fault...

I commented one night that Brew Crew Ball had turned a comment green with just 3 recs, when I thought 5 was standard across the board. That prompted a discussion in which someone proposed we up our standards to 6 because it’s serious. And here we are.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 1, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so serious

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mangiggle, our rec's are number curious

Btw how do you rec?

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 1, 2009 1:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

It's at the bottom of the entry on a fanpost...

Above the comments, just click “rec”.

To rec a comment, click on “actions” underneath it, then click “rec”.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 1, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 1, 2009 1:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Lame

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

now I really want Carp as pitching coach
“Dunc pointed out the talent level that we have and that we shouldn’t be satisfied too easily,” said Wainwright, the major-league leader with 16 victories. “He went through the group and asked us what the goal of the staff should be. That’s where Carp said, ’We’re going to be on the same page from Day 1.’ We’re going to go out and watch sides. We’re going to do things the way we used to do it. We’re going to do things as a group.”

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bad me

link

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

of course, they all thought the mustaches were a great idea

so mixed results.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was ready for a playoff stache

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 1, 2009 1:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Those were

Bite your tongue.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 1, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mini Carp

Awww.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Some day my boy, you too will sport a mighty lip sweater.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and it will all be yours

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you tell me.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 1, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He
is an American poet and radio host. Educated at Columbia University and the University of Montana, Cistulli is the author of Some Common Weaknesses Illustrated (Casagrande Press 2007) and a chapbook, Assorted Fictions (The Chuckwagon). In 2004, three of Cistulli’s poems appeared in Free Radicals: American Poets Before Their First Books (Subpress Collective).

Cistulli currently teaches writing part time at Mt. Hood Community College in Gresham, Oregon.

Duh!

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 1, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

here ya go!

Carson Cistulli

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on Sep 1, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How big of a dick is my roommate?

His car got hit in our apartment complex last night, which is his fault for parking on a curb four feet away from a corner that people are always whipping around. The spots directly in front of our building fill up at night, and walking an extra hundred feet to the rest of the spots in clearly too much work. I’ve warned him about parking there before, but he’s the smartest guy in the room.

But anyway, the guy leaves a note and everything, when he easily could have been an asshole and simply drove away. So I’m talking to him about it a minute ago, and he says he really wishes he would have fucked the guy over for leaving (which I’m not even sure what that means). I explained to him that the guy probably had to be somewhere, and could just as easily fucked him over by not leaving a note, which he wasn’t able to comprehend.

Just thought I would share.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 1, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sounds like he's not fully in touch with reality

did he want the person to wait around for hours?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I said...

He told me it doesn’t matter because you can’t leave the scene of an accident. Ugh.

Mind you, this is the same guy that drunkenly slammed his last car into a tree in our apartment complex. If I hadn’t been around that night, he would have been stumbling around out there until someone called 911, in which case he would have received a shiny DUI to accompany his totaled vehicle.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 1, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time to move, lol

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Sep 1, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I graduate in December...

And I’m done with him.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 1, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I pray for your safety until then

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On a side note...

Illinois had jamar Smith that drunkenly slammed into something, and we had Ramar Smith that drunkenly slammed into something. Of course Ramar had “borrowed” his teammate’s car, and ran away from the scene.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 1, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps

your roommate should change his license plate number to reflect his cell phone number in case he wants to be a douchebag and park where he’s not supposed to again.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Sep 1, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

niiiiiiice

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I kicked Braun out...

He spent way too much time practicing poses in the mirror.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 1, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"What do you think, Luke...

… how many of these shirts should I tuck in?"

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 1, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understood a few of those words.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 1, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i only understood "serious"

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Sep 1, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"All of them Ryan..."

“You’ll look that much cooler when you untuck them all at once.”

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 1, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he is

Can we call dumbassed parking jobs, deputy parking?

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 1, 2009 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

HEY LUKE

WANNA GO FOR A RIDE IN THE BRAUNMOBILE?

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 1, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thx for the subject line.

that pic creeps me out.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 1, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DUH NAH NUH NAH NUH NAH NUH NAH DUH NAH NUH NAH NUH NAH NUH NAH

RYAN BRAUN!

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Put Glaus at 3B for September

As long as our lead stays comfortable, keep Glaus at 3B, let him get ABs. Maybe he catches lightning in a bottle for the playoffs. None of the other characters is close to having his upside. If he can get 100ABs at 3B and DeRosa gets to rest up, we are a much better team in October.

Same with Smoltz —let him build arm strength. If he keeps pitching well, Lohse to the pen in October.

Just win

by The Duke on Sep 1, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

unfortunately

he’s only healthy enough to hit

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's been playing 3B at Memphis

He’s played 14 games there with 33 chances in the field. Three errors. Sounds like he is capable if a bit rusty.

Just win

by The Duke on Sep 1, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wouldnt mind if Glaus

hit like he did in the 2002 playoffs…or 2004…

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by nomar34 on Sep 1, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Glaus can get the ball across the IF consistently

Minor issue there.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 1, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just found the deputy's dream girl

There’s a female tennis player named Vera dushevena
http://www.vera-dushevina.com/index.jpg

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 1, 2009 1:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

so, is it even theoretically possible that one could take 30 PH

PA’s worth, in sum, $12.5M?

if not, troy owes us some cash.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 1, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FJM Fans

We’ve discussed that Ken Tremendous and the FJM crew are editing Deadspin beginning Sept. 16th. Well, they are looking for articles to dissect. Per Ken Tremendous’s Twitter account:

FJM fans: we’re editing Deadspin Sep. 16 and need articles to fisk. Please send links to my firejoemorgan.com email address.

Address for FJM articles: kentremendous@firejoemorgan.com. Send links all the way up to Sep. 16.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dunc in the NY Times

I think it is preposterous to believe Dunc does not look at Fangraphs (or have someone show them to him) considering how tuned he is to correcting past results so that future appearances are successful. Ten days ago from a field box in SD I saw Dunc walk Carp out to the Padres visitor bullpen for warm ups, walk him back, and despite numerous and vociferous Left Coast Redbird fans looking for some acknowledgement, they maintained deep, concentrated conversation before Carp carved up the AAA SD team. This is a pro’s pro, and he will do well wherever he goes.

That aside, the NY Times interest in all this speculation about Dunc and TLR is suspicious, and I believe this was a stealth article for early November ’09.

I predict 1964 deja vu all over again (appropriate Yogiism for the historically inclined). The Cardinals face the Yanks in the WS and after winning game seven on a go ahead pinch HR by Khalil Green in the top of the ninth, the assumption is that TLR and Dunc as the usual package will in fact be back after basking in the glow of the lengthening shadows of the victory parade in downtown StL. Two days later a surprise announcement: they produce a resignation letter composed in late September to Mo, and that they are going to respectively manage and pitch coach the Yankees in the hopes of ending their careers in the harsh journalistic glare but clearly financially unrestricted atmosphere that is NY. Girardi, the ex Yankee catcher, is bought out of his contract, and the Secret Weapon is named Cardinal manager. It all happens in a matter of hours. The baseball world is stunned and talks about nothing else through the awards season.

It could happen.

by CAredbird on Sep 1, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So you think he reads Fangraphs for some reason but have no evidence...

Sounds like a gutsy move. I like it.

Just try not to tip your postings. I saw this one coming as soon as you turned on your browser.

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by hazel on Sep 1, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

+1

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quite honestly

I hardly look at the “Pitch Value” stuff on Fangraphs. It’s simply not the case that Randy Wolf has the best fastball in the league, or that Wainwright’s slider is better than Carpenters. All a pitcher’s pitches are so ridiculously interdependent on each other those numbers aren’t terribly valuable to me.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 1, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been thinking of looking into this,

to look to see if there is maybe a number of pitches that can be considered more meaningful.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 1, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it's the pitch itself,

unless you go by Mo’s cutter.

I think it’s a combination of pitches. Lincecum has one of the “best” fastballs in the league but his changeup = devastating when people mistake it for a 97mph electric fastball. The pitch values (i assume) are a record keeper based on ops or something that gets hit off them. So its not the pitch itself but how/when the pitch is used….then again those are just my random thoughts and no research to back it up.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Sep 1, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Link?

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 1, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT:

is anyone else watching SAFINA v. ROGOWSKA

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Sep 1, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OT

do you ever hit random play all on your music player, and you hear the song that is about to come up before it starts? that always weirds me out

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Your music player is too predictable

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 1, 2009 3:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

can we have true random? or random+?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

tRandom* is much more predictive of future randomness than plain old Random+

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is a good point

as long as it is music player adjusted

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe it is

It might also even be adjusted for operating system, processor, and some other stuff. I’d have to check around the interwebs for a while.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that would be ideal

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

rec'd

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Sep 1, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was Glaus officially on the DL?

I ask because if he is, he would be eligible for the postseason roster, and potentially valuable as a DH in the World Series.

by olddomination on Sep 1, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As someone pointed out to me a few days ago

our 40 man roster was never filled therefore Glaus was on the 15 day DL not the 60, our 25 man roster as of yesterday + DL’d people (Glaus, Wellemeyer, Loshe) are the only ones I beleive are eligble unless we put someone on the 60 day DL (Wellemeyer anyone?) between now and then.

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Sep 1, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

welly is the obvious name there.

i’m not really convinced glaus is going to stick out the whole of september; my guess is he returns to the DL for good.

aren’t mather and garcia currently on the ML DL? I think you could move either of them to the 60-day and use their spots.

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by tom s. on Sep 1, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

jaime is active

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right. i'd forgotten his rehab was done. mather's still rehabbing, though, yes?

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 1, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i know he's not active

i hadn’t heard if he was rehabbing or done for the season or what

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't he in Springfield?

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by spants on Sep 1, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes.

i’m hitting .000. mather got optioned way back in april – I guess they didn’t put him on the ML DL, just on the memphis dl. so now he’s just at springfield on a regular assignment.

hugo was right – glaus, welly, and lohse are our extra players beyond the august 31st 25-man. sorry.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 1, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

memphis

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh mather?

sure. dunno

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by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grit.

Geez, Brandon Phillips.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fantasy owners everywhere are thankful.

Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.

by Cardinals645 on Sep 1, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miklasz tweet

says Franklin inked through 2011 and Trever Miller through 2010 and option for 2011.

Carp (or Waino) for NL Cy Young!

by zoomzoomj88 on Sep 1, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Miller?

Sweet.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 1, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miller was our bitch this off season regardless

And he knew it. He is going to be a Type A free agent. It was going to go to Arbitration regardless

by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 1, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Franklin extension makes no sense to me.

However, depending on the numbers (which I’ve yet to seek out), the Miller signing could be a very positive development. The LOOGY corps is secure through 2010.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

very happy

that it will be miller time for at least another year

franklin? take it or leave it. he probably won’t be this good next year, but whatevs

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nonsense.

We extended him at the end of 2007, knowing full well that he would continue to be as lucky good in 2008. Mo knows full well that Franklin will be as lucky good in 2010 as he has been in 2009. He’s a Proven Veteran, after all.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

to be fair

in conjunction with being pretty lucky, he’s also been pretty damn good. a 0 war reliever doesn’t just turn into the best closer in baseball at the benefit of a little luck. his command has been pretty much perfect for most of the season and his pitches have been doing what they’re supposed to do. just lucky on the balls in play. which can be sustainable in the number of innings a closer throws and with boog 60ft behind you

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+ beard = voodoo success

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who the hell is this reliever that you guys are referring to?

It surely can’t be OUR Franklin. I mean, really, the man only gets to pitch in games we are already winning. And he only gets to pitch the very end of those. Anybody can do THAT job. Our Ryan Franlkin sucks.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Sep 1, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

= voodoo suck.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm rather worried about his continued effectiveness even through October's end.

His BABIP is .223 with his LD% down 1 percent from last year. His BABIP was .255 in his magical ‘07 campaign and is .277 for his career. His GB/FB ratio is about the same as last year and lower than 2007 or 2006. However, his GB% is 2 percent higher than last season, so, that’s Duncanitics at work, I guess. His K rate is about the same as last season, but he is walking one fewer batter per 9 innings, which is similar to 2007. That said, his FIP is great, due largely to his microscopic HR per 9 innings (0.35!). His HR/FB is 3.5%, where it is over 10% for his career. His Zone% is the same as last year, so his control isn’t really all that much better.

Is the cutter making that much of a difference? He scrapped his slider, which was a great pitch for him in ‘07 and okay in ’08 in favor fo the cutter. It hasn’t been that great according to Fangraphs, but his fastball has been a lot better this season. We’ll see if it can continue. Color me skeptical.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Answer:

no. Franklin has pitched reasonably well, for a limited reliever, and has been lucky. And we’ve given him $4m that we didn’t really need to when he’ll be 38. Yeah, it’s defensible, given how effective he’s been, but I still think that could end up biting us in the ass.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 2, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'd better have seriously lowballed Miller

because he was on the verge of being a type A. I’d have let him walk, probably, but if we’ve got him cheap it’s probably a decent deal. Guy’s been nails this year.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Sep 1, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He would have accepted arbitration I would expect

He had no bargaining room. Who would have signed him as a Type A? So hopefully what we got was a price he would have accepted during arbitration and then a option for 2011, what I am more curious about is how that option vests, how many appearances or whatever does it take?

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Sep 1, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

screw you, Mothership!

MLB: “It is no secret that when we entered Spring Training, the question of who would be our closer was unsettled,” Mozeliak said. “Ryan has responded to that challenge in a big way, and our club would not be where we are today without his outstanding performance and leadership.”

VS

Everyone else: “‘Franky’ has responded to that challenge in a big way, and our club would not be where we are today without his outstanding performance and leadership.”


Mo is down with his peeps, yo. Don’t you forget it.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

PROGRAMMING NOTE

Shaq vs. Albert at 8:00pm CDT tonight! ABC.

Good thing it’s Piñeiro. We’ll be done with plenty of time.

……MOAR SINKERS.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ah shiznit

gonna miss that

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It will.

Tomorrow or later tonight. All the other Shaq Vs. shows are.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 1, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah yes, forgot about hulu

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Projection systems.

Does anyone know where I can get some good info on the major projection systems along with what goes into them and how the data is manipulated for the output? And also, if necessary, some basic information on how to understand that information.

I’m googling around and mostly reading Silver talking about PECOTA, but the only formulas I can find are Marcels.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Sep 1, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

PECOTA

I know BP has some good PECOTA stuff on their site and I thought I saw something on THT awhile ago about the various ones and how they differed.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?context=6&category=true

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Sep 1, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

PECOTA

has a lot of proprietary stuff in it so they don’t publish it. PECOTA, zips and chone are the big boys.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Sep 1, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ATTN: DanUp

The Vlad Reference is now out of vogue. Going forward, the correct player to which to refer re: punishing pitches outside the zone is now Pablo Sandoval. Unless you’re trying to sound like a guy who’s, you know, referencing the distant past (i.e. 5 years ago).

Just a heads up.

by mojowo11 on Sep 1, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

panda!

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fun added fact

Last time I checked, the two highest guys in the ML in contact made on pitches outside the zone (by a large margin) were teammates and back-to-back hitters in the batting order K.F. Panda and Bengie Molina. Hacktastic.

by mojowo11 on Sep 1, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was cricket.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 1, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT: economics article

I found this to be a really good read, just wondering your thoughts on it, as there are several economics peeps on here: http://chronicle.com/article/We-Are-All-Madoffs/48182/?sid=at&utm_source=at&utm_medium=en

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Meh - another neo-Malthusian

The extended analogy of consumer society to a Madoff/ Ponzi scheme fails, for the same reason that Malthusian predictions of doom never quite come true. Madoff ran a zero-sum game, in which inevitably only the insiders can benefit. Economic growth, on the other hand, is not a zero-sum game.

The writer seems to think that moving away from a sustainable agrarian economy (e.g., living on the banks of the Nile, expecting fields to be renewed by spring floods) was a big mistake. He’s wrong.

by madridbend on Sep 1, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

I thought it was a little too far to say that we are all madoffs… sounded pretty gimmicky. but I do agree though that we could go through all the resources, if the prime objective of consumerism is to consume…. so I agree with him that companies that seek to double their profits every year are not very realistic imo.

props for using the word neo-Malthusian btw

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ding

And on a side note I also despise the term Great Recession.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Sep 1, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

$5 Ticket to tonight's game

My girlfriend and I have and extra ticket for tonight game. It;s the first row in 589 (Away bullpen). If you’re interested shoot me a text or call at 618-806-5222 (I don’t answer numbers I don’t know so leave a voicemail and I’ll get back to you) or email me at eda900player2000 at yahoo.com

check out VEB on facebook...just search groups for Viva El Birdos

by Dttl89 on Sep 1, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

kinda funny

read the comments about geovani soto and jerome walton..haha

http://www.sharapovasthigh.com/2009/09/40-most-undeserving-mlb-starting-lineup.html

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Sep 1, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

some potential avatars for anybody who still needs one

some old pics of Cardinals.

Dizzy & Daffy Dean, Musial, Pepper Martin, one of Brock/Javier/Gibson celebrating in 1967, Bob Uecker with a tuba….

by nota bene on Sep 1, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Uecker pic is classic.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Sep 1, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Call-Up Day = Thursty...???

Skip Schumaker, 2b

Brendan Ryan, ss

Albert Pujols, 1b

Matt Holliday, lf

Ryan Ludwick, rf

Colby Rasmus, cf

Yadier Molina, c

Joe Thurston, 3b

Joel Pineiro, p

if there was going to be a starter at 3B that wasn’t DeRosa, I thought it would be Glaus.

Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!

by timmycardinals on Sep 1, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 1, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When's the last time Thursty started anyways?

It’s been nice to see TLR actually relegate him to 25th man duties once we traded for his replacement

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

true, but

I still echo tom s.

Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!

by timmycardinals on Sep 1, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tom S.'s has his own echo.

[reverb]

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn

one hopes Khalil is okay. He owns Looper.

Troy, Yadi, Skip, and Boog are all pwned by Loop, small sample size; Albert and Dero are utterly pwned by Looper, Lugo and Holliday are not much better.

We’re pretty much going to lose this game.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the good news is, Colby seems to see him pretty well.

I hope Colby is our new Ex-Cardinal Pitcher Killer!

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

(yes, but you're not supposed to say that. you might kill my inverse jinx powers)

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not even sure where that ends up

nothing to see here, GOBs

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was under the impression that Glaus can only pinch hit

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's Thome.

"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl

by RiverRat on Sep 1, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still don't understand how he can swing a bat at full speed and run the bases, but not play 1B

I can’t imagine any injury that would do that

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Random question, JD...

How do Auburn and Georgia distribute student tickets?

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 1, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this a joke?

’cause I can think of a few punchlines…

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 1, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yokels.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 1, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At Auburn

You purchase student tickets and they get uploaded to your student ID. You swipe your ID at the gate and as long as you purchased a ticket to that game, you get in. There is no assigned seating, it’s first-come first-serve (except in the fraternity section, which is roped off).

At Georgia, up until this year, it was all paper tickets. You had an assigned seat and you would purchase your season tickets at the beginning of the season, and get the paper ticket the week of the game. This year they are changing over to a systems similar to the one Auburn uses, with one caveat: your face must match the picture on the ID you present.

In other words, at Auburn, I could use Julio Lugo’s student ID to get into a game, and they wouldn’t think twice; you could sell student tickets. At Georgia, (they say) they are going to check the picture on the ID against each person’s face, so unless you know someone who looks reasonably like you do, you can’t get in on someone else’s ticket. I’m not sure if they’re really going to be hard on that, especially after the first few games.

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That sounds like a madhouse at Auburn...

But the reason I asked was because they just changed ours for the first time in forever. In the past, we just went to the ticket office the week before the game to pick up our tickets, which were randomly assigned. Last year was the first year we had to pay for our tickets, which pissed a lot of people off but I didn’t really care since we were one of the last schools with free tickets as it was. The system stayed the same, though.

But they’ve totally overhauled it this year. Now they’ve implemented this complicated loyalty system, which is going to keep track of individual attendance at every game, and they’ll be assigned better seats in the future depending on their points. So we have to get online and claim our tickets, then they notify us when we can get on and buy them, and then we print them at home. But to start out, priority is supposed to be based on credit hours. Well I’m only part of a group of 3 guys, and we all have over 100 hours. But our tickets were average at best, while groups of 10 and 12 people full of underclassmen were getting much better seats. So basically it doesn’t fucking work.

I was just curious as to whether other schools around the conference had managed to fuck it up as bad as we did. The old system worked perfectly fine, but they had to go and change it. But they’ve always been strict as hell about matching faces to IDs here. I tried to get my cousin in last year with my roommate’s ticket and ID, and they kicked him out and confiscated the ID.

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by LukeMP1186 on Sep 1, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah, not a mad house at Auburn

Works fine. You just have to get to the game really early to insure you get a good seat and/or you get to sit with people you want to.

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just hate fighting people for seats...

That’s the way they do basketball here, and I can barely tolerate it.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 1, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're totally different motions,

so it makes sense to me.

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by spants on Sep 1, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It seems like swinging would cause more stress than covering first base and fielding the occasional grounder

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by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If his back is

bugging him, bending, stretching, and crouching would probably hurt him more than swinging a bat. If it’s his shoulder, it’s the throwing and possible diving that’s the issue.

Back issues are weird. Some movements just don’t hurt, while others inexplicably hurt.

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by spants on Sep 1, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Having once again injured my back

and dealing with a chronically bad back, I can attest that somethings (bending at the waist for me) hurt inexplicably. If Thome is fast enough to drop into a full squat utilizing just his hips and keeping his spine in a non-flexed position, he could field. Somehow me thinks that’s not the case.

I could, however, swing a bat with no problem. Twisting isn’t an issue for me.

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by azruavatar on Sep 1, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i was wondering about this also

esp swinging the bat, i would imagine that would kill someone with a bad back.

by RedJoker on Sep 1, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was under the impression that Glaus can only pinch hit strike out.

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by tom s. on Sep 1, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ankiel can strike out as a starter as well as in a pinch hit role.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 1, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have been down on Glaus all year

but the fact that he actually has been activated and actually is in St. Louis finally is making me pause….can the guy really come back and play like he did in 2008 on defense and offense? That would be a huge lift to a team that’s already playing really well.

I don’t want to get optimistic on Glaus, but man….

by nota bene on Sep 1, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No.

No he can not. This is the Mark Mulder rehab tour ‘09. If you suck in your rehab assignment, you shouldn’t be called up just because.

Shut up, Fritz™.

by Alxfritz on Sep 1, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

they basically don't want to lock him out of any post-season recognition which we are not discussing

is my theory.

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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

that’s what I’m inclined to think, but for some reason seeing the guy actually make it to St. Louis is making me wonder. If the guy was just flat-out incapable, you’d think TLR would keep him in Memphis, or he’d have a “setback” or new injury or something….

by nota bene on Sep 1, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if it's a choice of Glaus and his potential .380+OBP sat on the bench

or some scrub like Stavinoha, I’ll take my chances with Glaus, personally. He may not be much good but it’s a smart move if the other options all suck anyway.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 2, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm boycotting this evening's game.

I will not watch a game where Joe Thurston is the starting third baseman. His glove is poor and his throws will cause me great anxiety as I fear for Pujols and the organization’s well-being. My heart can’t take it.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, why isn't ka heel playing third?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there was a report in the other thread

from someone at the game, that mentioned Khalil being really upset after his last oh-fer.

I fear that might have something to do with it.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, crikey.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 1, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's a better defender at third than dero

i thought the main issue with thursty was his ineptitude on the base paths and his ability to strike the apple with a wooden stick

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like Thursty covers more ground at third than DeRo, but his throws are worse

"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Sep 1, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's about

a whole win better over 150 games according to uzr, which accounts for throws

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

okay, after looking

it’s .5 wins and dero has four times as many innings at the position as thurston. not hugely accurate, thurston could be as bad as dero (assuming a 5 run margin of error)

i’m still gonna go with thurston is the better defender at 3b

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, it's 2b

that i was thinking of where thursty is a win better than dero

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The horror...

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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 1, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

eh,

It’s just one start. Gives DeRosa three days rest. I’m okay with it. I’m sure Tony would want to watch Glaus take balls a few days before deciding if he is ready to start 3rd,

by Evilfrog on Sep 1, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fuck this shit

gotfuckingdamnit MO!

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Sep 1, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

uncalled for

and rec’d.

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by Felonius_Monk on Sep 2, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone else seen...

that movie about the Dominican baseball player, called Sugar? I noticed it had great reviews, so I just downloaded in on iTunes and it was pretty good.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 1, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BCB had a review

They probably spoiled it, though.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 1, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,

they filmed some of it in the Quad Cities on the Cards’ affiliate’s field.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go River Bandits!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 1, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saw it in the theater here

thought it was a great movie.

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by TNTinCO on Sep 1, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw it.

I really liked it.

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by spants on Sep 1, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

post season tickets

link to register for drawing to be able to purchase post season tickets at the mothership. Make sure to uncheck the two ad boxes. Post registration disclaimer

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by ubeddie on Sep 1, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

woooooot

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

does that mean

if my name is drawn, i can buy a ticket to the nlds and the nlcs or the one of my choosing?

or are their separate drawings for each series?

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

one game

and I believe they pick it for you. There may be a second chance drawing after the 9/23 deadline similar to the one the Cards had for all star ticket packages

by ubeddie on Sep 1, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you, sir.

You are a true gentleman (or lady).

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 1, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He

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by The_teague on Sep 1, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

has already been watching for hourse

(I hit enter a little too early, no premature postulation jokes please)

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by The_teague on Sep 1, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

guys, GUYS

mother fucking baseball

it feels like ages

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Sep 1, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Off days are bad...

But they’re especially bad after a day game. God!

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 1, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO...

Felix Pie took AJ Burnett deep, and as he’s rounding the bases, Burnett is incredulous and sort of throws his hand up in Pie’s direction and says to himself:

“This motherfucker?”

Classic. The Orioles bench wasn’t happy.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Sep 1, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

teh glaus iz alreddy broke.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 1, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lineups

Milwaukee

Lopez 2B
Gerut RF
Braun LF
Fielder 1B
McGehee 3B
Cameron CF
Kendall C
Hardy SS
Looper P

Cards

Schu 2B
Boog SS
Pujols 1B
Lego LF
Luddy RF
Corey/Cody/Whatshisname CF
Yadi C
Thursty (Great…) 3B
Joel P

Carp (or Waino) for NL Cy Young!

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