Game 131 Overflow Thread
by azruavatar on Aug 29, 2009 9:07 PM EDT
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Rasmus looks like he's trying to spank someone
Man, with this outfield, need to get rid of that Rasmus, no Ankiel, wait no, Rasmus wait...To hell with Ankiel FREE KOBE RAMSIS
/azru wet dream
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 30, 2009 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions
So I watched Bull Durham the other day and something bothered me
Ebby Calvin ‘Nuke’ LaLoosh struck out 18 guys in a game and walked 18 guys in a game. So that means the min number of pitches he could of thrown is 126.
Why would a manager let a pitcher in A ball throw 126 pitches in a game. Did they not have pitch counts in 1988
As I replied on the other thread...
he was a college manager cleverly disguised and a minor league manager???
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
Don Baylor also an acceptable answer...
Isn’t he the Cubs manager that pretty much ended Rod Beck’s career?
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
just be glad he's a bench player now
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I think this is where Rick Ankiel can thrive hitting in front of Pujols--OHHH YEAHHHH!!!!!!!
azru, we gotta hang out again and watch a game sometime.
Cardwash Definition: Birds on the Nat.
I think this is where Rick Ankiel can thrive hitting in front of Pujols--OHHH YEAHHHH!!!!!!!
I'm relatively certain this breaks all the rules of the interwebs.
But maybe. . .
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Cody does resemble an ankiel biter
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by gdm426 on Aug 29, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Classic, sir.
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
This should be green, dammit.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
IT'S GREEN BITCHES
I GOT ANOTHER ONE! I MADE IT BABY!
IN YOUR FACE JUNIOR HIGH TEACHERS!
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by gdm426 on Aug 30, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Wonder if they'd be interested in Welly?
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Welly for R. Zimmerman
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I'll take both
Man, with this outfield, need to get rid of that Rasmus, no Ankiel, wait no, Rasmus wait...To hell with Ankiel FREE KOBE RAMSIS
this team is awesome
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions
awh yeah
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions
Guys helping their batting averages tonight.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Musial
Yeah
But no estaban yan or Kevin ohme to face unfortunately
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Aug 29, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions
Big time
Reply fail
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Aug 29, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
his mother is scarred
I want Tung Po!
by ILoveTheSt.LouisCardinals on Aug 29, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions
7 game series
Do we beat the Yankees?
Man, with this outfield, need to get rid of that Rasmus, no Ankiel, wait no, Rasmus wait...To hell with Ankiel FREE KOBE RAMSIS
If Carp goes 3X
we have a chance
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my dad's two favorite teams
I don’t know who he pulls for
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Not if or offense is like it was been the last week (before tonight)
But It is the series I am hoping for, and I think we can.
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 29, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Willie Harris does a modified
double step, non-trip Rick Ankiel.
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...
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 30, 2009 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Did Albert flip his bat? Pop psyc bloggers are energized. ..
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off the wall!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions
What a thoroughbred looks like.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Musial
I think we've found a bullpen
worse than ours
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You should see the D-backs
Haren probably has strangled at least 3 of them due to blowing his games
Man, with this outfield, need to get rid of that Rasmus, no Ankiel, wait no, Rasmus wait...To hell with Ankiel FREE KOBE RAMSIS
That has to look odd
seeing an invisible man strangling people.
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
just like in the movie!
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pshh, i coulda told you after the first month the nats had the worst bullpen
they still do. even without Kip wells & julian tavarez
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I think this is where Rick Ankiel can thrive hitting in front of Pujols--OHHH YEAHHHH!!!!!!!
there's the one.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Record for 2 out RBI's?
Man, with this outfield, need to get rid of that Rasmus, no Ankiel, wait no, Rasmus wait...To hell with Ankiel FREE KOBE RAMSIS
what were they cheering during Matt's at-bat?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
pshh, he's not motte
but he at least has a little lee-way, i hope he doesn’t turn out like last year where he struggled the last month of the season.
Cardwash Definition: Birds on the Nat.
I think this is where Rick Ankiel can thrive hitting in front of Pujols--OHHH YEAHHHH!!!!!!!
When do you like seeing walks
Ricky Horton?
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Aug 29, 2009 9:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Also ricky
Col-sf isn’t an al score. Atleast ur not al
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Aug 29, 2009 9:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Do we have anybody in the bullpen?
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Aug 29, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions
Nats took them all
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
well, smoltz is a starter instead of a reliever, so i dunno
and i don’t know how many games i’ve seen this year that the nats have taken the lead in the last 3 innings, granted most of the times they weren’t behind by 6 runs….
….it’s a serious number…..
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I think this is where Rick Ankiel can thrive hitting in front of Pujols--OHHH YEAHHHH!!!!!!!
K-Mac - look at the scoreboard and see how Cleveland is doing. First and last stop on the Tony Doghouse Express!
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
agreed
now and then
too many internal options at 3rd to give up so much for a potential rental
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
if only Allen Craig was friends with John Smoltz, that never would have happened
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I was looking at fangraph release point charts.
Perez seems to be throwing the ball from a point lower and farther from his body than he did here.
I still don’t think he has the same success here as he will have there. He didn’t fit Duncan’s mold.
al and da keep talking about what a great year kmac is having
i swear his record is greatly superior to his real performance
he has benefited greatly from others cleaning up after him
control issues and quite few base runners
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
he's also been pretty good at cleaning up messes
he’s come into games with 25 guys on base this year, and only allowed 2 to score. but he’s still walking way too many people.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
I would give Wandy's left arm for Dave Veres right now.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Aug 29, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions
niiiice
Cardwash Definition: Birds on the Nat.
I think this is where Rick Ankiel can thrive hitting in front of Pujols--OHHH YEAHHHH!!!!!!!
no, just be glad rosters expand in a few days. more bullpen arms
Cardwash Definition: Birds on the Nat.
I think this is where Rick Ankiel can thrive hitting in front of Pujols--OHHH YEAHHHH!!!!!!!
Recall last year how K-Mac fell off percipitiously? Captain Ron tosses as 440' fast ball - K Mac implodes. The Mississippi runs south
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
this is generally less than cool, K-Mac.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
we need two more runs
to have three games with the score 11 – 4 on the same day.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Mr. Yadi2Second
I am pleased to inform you that you have been awarded with the Random Post of the Day award.
May you have a god day and best of lu… Salad!!
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
I want the Walrus back...
no one would mention this game otherwise.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
You mean..
Cardinals beat the Nationals
Sun rises in the East
Rihanna sounds like strangled cats
Yadda Yadda Yaddi Yadi Yadi
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
I want the Walrus back...
6ly, who do we have RHRP that you trust?
Welly?
Lohse?
K-Mac?
Motte?
PK?
GaaaaaaaawStab?
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meh, hawksworth isn't too bad, maybe he'll be the 2009 version of 2006 post-season kinney
Cardwash Definition: Birds on the Nat.
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Carp and Wainwright are gonna have to be perfect in the playoffs
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 29, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
well, from what we learned in 2006, all we need is 3 starters and a good closer.
and we got that this year.
Cardwash Definition: Birds on the Nat.
I think this is where Rick Ankiel can thrive hitting in front of Pujols--OHHH YEAHHHH!!!!!!!
Our closer blows goats
What are you talking about?
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 30, 2009 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Smoltz
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 30, 2009 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions
ooo, lefty lefty, this'll be interesting
Cardwash Definition: Birds on the Nat.
I think this is where Rick Ankiel can thrive hitting in front of Pujols--OHHH YEAHHHH!!!!!!!
Miller tiemz
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Miller--SOOOOOOOO efficient
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Glovewick!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
guy can struggle a bit hitting
Luddy’s a + defender
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Sauce tiemz?
nooooo. not back to back days.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I don't understand this move
up 5, 2 outs in the 7th
Let Miller at least TRY to get Willingham
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Please, Please, no.
Miller is a loogy. Miller is a loogy. Miller is a loogy. If he were anything other than a loogy, he would have established this at some other time during his lengthy career.
Miller should only pitch to LHB except in random situations where he pitches to a RHB only to bridge to the next LHB.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 30, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
can anybody explain why we pulled
Boggs 88 pitches into his best game of the season to have THURSTON pinch hit? Was boggs sore? Injured? Because it seems silly when your bullpen explodes every other day to pull your starter early with a 4 run lead.
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by tom s. on Aug 29, 2009 9:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Dave & Tony were really pissed at him during his last half inning
that’s all i can think of
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Because Dunn hit a HR?
Because you know, he has no track record of doing that to other pitchers or anything…
they kept showing them both after that happened
and Tony was walking around mad & taling to dave. and dave kept looking over his shoulder talking to him & he was mad. they both kept that up the rest of the inning. dave still looks pissed now.
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I really don't get it.
If welly pitched this game they would talk about how much progress he made and how he battled without his best stuff.
It really is personal with them and some players.
Huh?
Let’s see…
Welley goes down with a mysterious arm injury and likely (as Welley admits) will never start another game for the Cards.
Boggs is starting over a cast of other pitchers who are just about at the same level (PJ, Hawk, Welley, etc.), leading one to conclude that TLR/Dunc at least “like” him the best over other comparable options.
Boggs gets pulled after one of his longest starts ever in the majors (as well, we know he takes a long time to warm up and the staff keeps track of this (i.e. the opposite with Wainwright), with the lead, and has a quality start in the bag. Why not turn it over to an underused bullpen, staffed with some guys who need to work on things in precisely these kinds of low leverage situations (Kmac, Motte), and give Boggs some confidence to boot?
Why do some here jump so quickly to ascribe negative, personal motivations to TLR’s decision-making when perfectly reasonable motivations are just as aparent from the known facts?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 30, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
seemed like boggs was doing just what he
Should. With a big lead, he should pitch aggressively. If somebody hits a solo HR sobeit. I’d rather he threw strikes and went deeper in the game than loaded the bases with walks by pitching too carefully.
It’s beyond me why they would be pissed unless he missed a sign. I think he had one or two pitch ABs for each batter in that inning.
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by tom s. on Aug 29, 2009 9:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hopefully some savvy reporter will ask Tony that question
we might know why tomorrow
I stood where no man goes...
meh, tony probably thought boggs would give up more runs if he stayed out after 6, especially when he's never lasted that long in the bigs before.
Cardwash Definition: Birds on the Nat.
I think this is where Rick Ankiel can thrive hitting in front of Pujols--OHHH YEAHHHH!!!!!!!
COLBY JACK
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Thats what she said?
Im not sure
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
I want the Walrus back...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f_DPrSEOEo
dumb and dumber
Cardwash Definition: Birds on the Nat.
I think this is where Rick Ankiel can thrive hitting in front of Pujols--OHHH YEAHHHH!!!!!!!
Jim Carrey supposedly improv'd that scene
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 30, 2009 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions
guys, just hope willingham doesn't get on
Dukes’ last home run was a grand slam against the flubs
Cardwash Definition: Birds on the Nat.
I think this is where Rick Ankiel can thrive hitting in front of Pujols--OHHH YEAHHHH!!!!!!!
hold on to your butts.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Ugh
We really should give Sanchez a shot
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
can we shoot the fuckers doing the wave
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
+1M
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 29, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
cha-ching!
I got some heartburn from the Sauce.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
SAUCE
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions
great job blue
it sucked, but i’m ok with the result
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What is wrong with those people?
Doing the wave with the bases loaded – ugg!
like a pokemon.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
his eyes are just closed.
you shoulda saw brad thompson’s pic last year
Cardwash Definition: Birds on the Nat.
I think this is where Rick Ankiel can thrive hitting in front of Pujols--OHHH YEAHHHH!!!!!!!
so if it was Photo Day
why did Carp shave his head?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
that LaRue. such a trickster.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
don't go to sleep before the king
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by gdm426 on Aug 29, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's creepy that the King has real hands.
They couldn’t find airbrush makeup?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
WAY late to the thread,
but excellent caption, Az.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
yeah, colby makes me laugh in that picture
he’s the super quiet type that, when you get him drunk, he’s the life of the party
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
oppomus!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
As a heeter, I'm no afray of ennybodie.
- APu.
by Mr. Wilson on Aug 29, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, thats what i thought
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
I want the Walrus back...
Rec'd
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 30, 2009 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions
At the game
Just wanted to say…fuck the wave and that
rasmus hr was awesome
by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2009 9:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
kill them, evil frog! with your mind!
then take their cameras.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Is that something burning I see
in the outfield???
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
Razzums!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions
The Rose!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
"so smooth and effortless... around the bases"
- Dan
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
CHUGS LARUE!
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I think this is where Rick Ankiel can thrive hitting in front of Pujols--OHHH YEAHHHH!!!!!!!
How exactly
did the online video and audio feeds switch which had the 2 second delay??? I love technology.
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
i can't remember the last time I saw him bat
before this game
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
poor chugs
Cardwash Definition: Birds on the Nat.
I think this is where Rick Ankiel can thrive hitting in front of Pujols--OHHH YEAHHHH!!!!!!!
Sauce x2
wot.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
no body left but Franklin
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whoa, that was a Boog-esque chin wipe
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i hate orr
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i don't want the rocks to go to the playoffs simply because betty is there
it’d finally shut these jackass’s up who keep calling him a winner
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I still prefer Colorado over San Fran
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
I want the Walrus back...
With you on that
Dont want to see Lincecum and Cain in a short series
by SoCalBirdfan on Aug 29, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
as long as we have cake, san fran will be noooo problem
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by gdm426 on Aug 29, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's Sandoval
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
I want the Walrus back...
kung fu panda
born on the same day as our very own Korky Rasmus.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
The last couple of frames
looks like he is sliding at base 2.5
Epic…
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
I want the Walrus back...
Colorado is managed by Jim Tracy
San Francisco is managed by Bruce Bochy
I’d be more worried about the Giants personally, given the above and the fact we’d be facing Lincecum, Cain, et al.
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 30, 2009 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Orr was doing well in AAA in august, it's why they called him up
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Evilfrog, please do something about orr before you take care of the wavers
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also the horse chestnuts in his cheeks.
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by tom s. on Aug 29, 2009 9:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
doubt it Orr is 30
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No, no, no...
The Nyjer Morgan All-Stars are otherwise average or worse players that tend to run well and kill the Cardinals.
V, b.
breaking balls. well well well
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
polite applause for Belliard
they don’t recognize him without the hair
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
he looks like a shorter LL Cool J now. weird.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
belly lard!
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Who?
Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.
by Cardinals645 on Aug 30, 2009 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 30, 2009 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions
whatever breaking ball he's throwing
along with the slider looks good. is that the much-requested splitter?
gameday says it's a curve, but that ain't a curve
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I would be fine with assuming it was a slider
except he threw some really obvious (and not all that bad) backdoor sliders in the same at-bat. It seems like it has to be a third pitch.
nice 82 -84 MPH
to complement 97 -98 MPH heater
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Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
Skip shows concern for Orr
Nooo! Skippeh, noooo! leave him where he lies!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
woh
I am now more drunk than I was before
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
aaaaahhh!!
he keeps pulling himself out of the ocean over and over
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
be careful how you slide into Skippy Orr
you don’t want an angry robot taking you out after the game
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Ank in
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Belly at second
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
it's like retro night!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
they should have a 70's night at busch stadium, the philly's did a cool job on their jumbotron.
BOOG would be a porn star with that stache!
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someone was going on about powder blues.
here on VEB
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
4 pitch BB
who would have guessed?
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Skip knee'd Orr's head.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I... what? what just happened?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I'll take three more just like it, Bergmann
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Did the pitcher lick his fingers four times on the mound?
That’s the only way I can possibly imagine Ank walking on 4 pitches
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by jd is legend on Aug 30, 2009 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions
oh hey
it’s Bergmann for the 2nd night in a row.
Did he get a round of applause when he was introduced? Maybe he can throw a hanger to Rick and get him going….
Luddy: It's easy, Ank. Just don't swing.
Dick: Don’t swing?
Luddy: Don’t swing.
Dick: Hmmm.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
okay, skip is 3 for 5
BOOG needs to go 3-5
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Schu is havin himself a game
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
okay, moved the runners up for pujols, that's good
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nice hard-hit ball to Belly
good boog. have a cookie.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
well yeah, berg gave up the walk off yesterday lol
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STRATEGY!!!!
Cardwash Definition: Birds on the Nat.
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strategery
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
g
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Aug 29, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
ahahaha RIOTS!
get them started, Evil Frog.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Let's hope a pitch isn't grooved
that’d be a real rally killer
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
that's anyone's with bases loaded
typically played for Albert.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
ooh, clever.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I like it.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
If you watch the movie `Jaws' backwards
it’s a movie about a shark that keeps throwing up people until they have to open a beach.
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 29, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
this is set up for Luddy, imo.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
that was a little too quick for a holliday
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he couldn't wait to get back to the clubhouse
mrs fritz just dropped off some more piez
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make this Ludtacular, Luddy
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
yeah, Luddy didn't look to smart there
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
please don't waste an Ankiel walk
we may never see it again.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
a 4 pitch ank walk too
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okay. break out the LOBster.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
/facepalm
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Aug 29, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
that was a little too lud-quick
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I shall refrain
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Aug 29, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what she wants
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I guess it depends on what
is being refrained from.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Mine too.
That was awful. Those types of visual disturbances trigger migraines. Fortunately, I wasn’t in a dark room or that would have been the strobe effect from hell.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
It's okay.
Just please, please, please never again!
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
At least you gave a subject line!
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 30, 2009 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions
all the commenters not here
are having seizures.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
puppykicker
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
his proper role would have involved
Entering the game an inning or two ago.
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by tom s. on Aug 29, 2009 10:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he was busy
with puppies
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
childhood nickname
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's the origin.
6. Who was your favorite athlete growing up?
BR: I don’t know why, I never got to see him play, but I was always crazy about Mickey Mantle. My nickname’s after Boog Powell. And I watched the Dodgers play a lot, and loved them.
TB: How come your nickname is after Boog Powell?
BR: My dad and my brother loved a big, slugging first baseman, and loved that name.
TB: And that’s you.
BR: Yeah, exactly. (Laughs) They loved the name, and they wanted that to be my first name, but Mom wasn’t having that. Especially when I came out at 10 pounds or something, she said, “His name’s Brendan, that’s final.” That was that.
by vexedtechie on Aug 29, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I know I've spent too much time on VEB when...
I read the first question as “Seriously, who was your favorite athlete growing up?”
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 30, 2009 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions
family nickname
it beats the team nickname, which is apparently ‘Ryno’. uh, yeah, we don’t get it either.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
just look ryan up on wikipedia
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my fanpost pwns your fanshot.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
mine was first
so your fanpost is just picking up my fanpost sloppy seconds
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actually, no
My fanpost came first.
Besides, I asked you to make that fanshot.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
of course, now there's no screenshot of the tender moment with Colby
so it’s all incomplete.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
my was posted in july, you didn't do yours till this month
but you did ask me to do that, so,,does that mean your having your own sloppy seconds?
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no, I posted it earlier
I just edit it frequently, which means the date changes when I forget and check that box.
And I’m not even going to figure out how you can have your own sloppy seconds. Would that be in negative? Imaginary numbers?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
look, guys.
It’s the internet. No need for this. We all know everyone here (except the ladies) is packing 8 inches, right?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
yeah, really.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
The thread the other night? Remember?
Sure, sure. I’m the bad guy.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
yeah, why do you always sell us short?
not cool spants. not cool.
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8 is plenty. Srsly.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
btw, do not google the term
“this big” without safe search on.
there really are some things you cannot unsee. yikes.
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I shall keep that in mind.
(off to Google…)
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
This has scarred me for life, gdm.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
cats are evil creatures
really, i could go the rest of my life without seeing another male penis. 6ly.
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unfortunately some of the ladies
Are also packing 8 inches
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 29, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think there's any of those on VEB. But maybe.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
But of course.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
great, now i've got that damned $5dollar song in my head
up yours fritz
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also I posted a collection of Boog links
so you can properly stalk him.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
too bad we don't have legit "protection"
For albert. Other teams just walk him at will. If only we had a slugger, a “big bat” if you will, to bat behind him. Then all these walks would stop.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Aug 29, 2009 10:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
does his shirt say wasington
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Aug 29, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
wouldn't surprise me with all the nats' troubles with jerseys this year
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Just an FYI
I’m watching the game on GameDay and my girlfriend just looked at it and said, “Why does that look like a woman?” — pointing at Brad Thompson. So I guess Brad Thompson looks like a woman.
"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang
His eyelashes are very long.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
baby face is a woman eh?
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he looks very simalar to this lesbian I know
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Aug 29, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm...
Yeah, put him in drag, I could see him confusing people.
Too much? Or an invitation for someone to photoshop women’s clothing on PK? You make the call.
i think you're on to something there
"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang
I like the photoshop option.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
long suffering vexed. lol.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
here's some actual guys in drag
ah, rooks.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
You're my internet hero.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I'm not gonna say it's my best work, but it's not my worst, lol...
…it wasn’t too terrible making it…just trying to find a suitable “drag” photo as an original…that’s what sucked.
by vexedtechie on Aug 29, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I don't doubt it...
…again, precisely why I’m glad it was you and not me. Thanks for taking one for the team.
I wonder what Brad would do if he saw this?
Puppy massacre?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Well, judging by those heels...
…I’d wager we’d have a puppy kebab on our hands.
by splhcb67 on Aug 29, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry, man.
I would do it myself…but I have zero ability. Therefore, I simply make suggestions, and let others do the dirty work. It’s a tough racket, but someone’s gotta do it. :)
Where do you see salad?
I see Green Beans.
by vexedtechie on Aug 29, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
so the bat broke, possibly on line to kneecap Thompson, and then the runner carries the shard towards Albert?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
That's a winner!
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Aug 29, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
WINNER
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25
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
ok, I'll post that to facebook next time instead
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
21!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Braves still up, 9 - 1
if this result holds up, Phils will also be +21, 74 – 53
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19 -6 this month
.760 ball guys & gals. Not too shabby
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man
76-55, 21 games over
Boggs .074
Motte .029
Indy .241
Wick .141
Ramses .110
Pujols .052
Skip .017
by nota bene on Aug 29, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
when Evilfrog is done taking care of the wavers, i'm sure he'd be more than happy to help you out
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i thought boggs had a really good game.
It may take him through next season to get confidence and control to throw strikes. I think he’s getting there. The Nats offense is not shabby.
Right now, I think boggs + smoltz are better than welly and an injured lohse.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Aug 29, 2009 10:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
no more distractions during the warm-ups!
maybe he was down because no one wanted his photo.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I love that this was a game with 13 runs & 22 hits combined
and the time of game was still only 2:53
Somebody got to Cliff Lee...
maybe there is hope…
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
I'm wondering if the HRs...
were cheapies, or if he actually pitched poorly.
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
when I think offensive ass-kicking
I’ll admit that the Braves are not the first team that leaps to mind
is that goold, and does he sound like he's twelve?
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that's calvin may
he always asks tony the first question of the night
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aha. thanks.
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Who is that guy, and why does he have a job?
Because his name should be Mr Obvious.
Brett Favre is a Viking, and John Smoltz is a Cardinal. The Cubs and Packers still suck. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
someone told me a few years ago he writes for the Rolla Mo newspaper
but i’ve never been able to confirm that
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is he real?
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm only trusting this if there were no real names involved.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
uh...
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Really?
Because I’m Seve Tomlinsin.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
i. i. what? "Brad Lidge Jr."
NOOOOO.
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
did hummel ask that one?
wonder why they cut away from the post game?
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Giants vs Rockies game is pretty good
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions
Which is precisely why
Everyone should root for the Rockies (or, possibly at this rate, the Dodgers) to take the wild card.
Teams that scare me...
in order of most to least:
Philly
Colorado
SF
LA
Atlanta
We really need to overtake Philadelphia to get home field for the NLCS.
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
Is there any way we can play the Phillies in the first round?
If the Wild Card comes out of the West?
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 29, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think so...
If we finish with the best record, we play the wild card winner.
If we finish 2nd to the Dodgers, we would also play the wild card winner.
If we finish 2nd to the Phillies, we would play the Dodgers.
If we finish 3rd and the Dodgers and Phillies finish 1st and 2nd, we would also play the Dodgers.
If we finish 3rd and the Phillies and Dodgers finish 1st and 2nd, we would also play the Dodgers.
So unless someone outside the West wins the wild card, we won’t see the Phillies until the NLCS.
V, b.
I'm not sure who to root for
I don’t want the Giants to make the playoffs, but Marquis started the game….
why can't we beat SF?
what’s our record against them this year? it seems like we haven’t won a game against them in 10 years, though
by Expatcardfan on Aug 29, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
mix tape check
Let My Love Open the Door.
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
pretty interesting backdrop for Boggs
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
someone help me with that second one
I suck.
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
that's 3. #2 was winding down at the beginning of Colby's.
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
that's #3
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Colby needs to sell it.
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Start Me Up by the Stones
Brett Favre is a Viking, and John Smoltz is a Cardinal. The Cubs and Packers still suck. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Any lyrics at all?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
it was 80s, and winding down
I thought the repeating lyrics was “tenderness” but I couldn’t tell — Colby was talking deep and the high-pitched chorus was of course the least intelligible to me.
It’s one of those songs someone would, theoretically, do to that finger-snapping shoulder move.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
in other words, identical to about a hundred other 80s songs.
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Aha. it is in fact Tenderness by General Public.
Probably a one-hit wonder.
Good night and thank you all for playing!
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
oh but Number Three is Start Me Up
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
someone show Cody these Hollywood highlights
that’s how you sell it rook
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is Jack Nicholson randomly showing up at every major league ballpark?
bucket list?
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
wha?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I don't have WWL, so I don't know these things.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
oh that's right
that makes sense, though. he’s a yankees fan.
i think the phils game was against the cubs.
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yankees fan
and a Lakers fan? That’s bizarre.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
he's Jack
he can do whatever he wants to…
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Good movie.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Either way, he doesn't give a damn about what you think you're entitled to
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 30, 2009 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions
i've seen him at dodger games
and the giants & mets, too. he gets around.
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If I had that kind of money,
I’d see a lot of baseball.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
front row?
I must either be missing him, or I… don’t watch those teams’ games.
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not talking about this year. i saw him once sitting with seinfeld at a mets game
he’s been to a lot of dodger & giants games over the years too
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it seems like more of a grand tour this year
if he shows up in other places, then I’ll start to be intrigued.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
well 2 is a small sample size
i’m randomly looking for something again, and there’s two pics of Jack — at the Bank and at the Rangers’.
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
and does this increase the chances of Boog doing his 'Jack' impression
then getting kneecapped?
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
By the by
This team fucking rules.
I’m giddy, seriously giddy, for the next month plus.
Shut up, Fritz™.
Wheeeeeeeeeeeee!
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Right there with you.
And I am nearly wetting myself imagining Carp/Waino/Jo-el, with Smoltzy in relief/whatever he feels like doing, in a playoff series. Not to jinx anything, but is it possible to throw a shutout for a full playoff series?
(feel free to ban me forever if this comes back to bite me in the ass)
me too
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm trying to get a buddy of mine
that just got divorced that I lived with in 2004 and 2005 to move into my basement for October just so we can be absolute wrecks together like the olden days.
Shut up, Fritz™.
awesome ;)
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
She "embraces it" in her words
we were dating back then, she misses being that much fun.
Shut up, Fritz™.
i feel ya
I miss being that much fun too. My house to always be the place everyone hung out at for years. Than I went and got a place of my own for a few years. Now I miss having a roommate and getting ready to have one again soon.
I want to have a party house again.
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 30, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll buy you a pizza...
I don’t want your couch, I just want to outbid gdm so he has to suffer.
V, b.
you bastard
stay out of this! i was just about to score a sweet couch!
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even better- we acquired holliday 33 games ago
we’re 24-9 since (21-12 pythag). With 31 games left, if we maintain the post-24 July pace, we’ll win 98.5. Uh, 99.
Over a full season, that’s like 118 games.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
he's golfing
we’ve lost him to the starters
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
that surprised me
being a good southern boy, i would have thought he’d like to hunt & fish more. but i guess it can’t hurt if he’s hanging out with Adam & Smoltzy more so than KMac & Franky.
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lots of more 'rural' areas are deep into golf
colby doesn’t seem like the sort to be horribly corrupted by the bullpen, anyway.
he’s still trying for that stache, though.
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 30, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
i must be from different rural areas than he is
because all my relatives love to hunt & fish. while golf is seen as a rich man’s sport.
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Well looking ahead (and no offense to the GOBs)...
TBS has the NLCS this year, so we wouldn’t have to play a Tim McCarver FOX game until the World Series. So there’s that.
V, b.
And on a related note...
Our playoff odds currently stand at an even 97% according to coolstandings.com.
V, b.
Just TBS...
I think any overlap goes to TNT, but every game is scheduled for TBS. It went smoothly last year if I remember correctly.
V, b.
Every game of the Division Series, I mean...
They alternate with FOX on the NLCS and ALCS each year.
V, b.
The good news is that awful Frank Caliendo show got cancelled...
That’s like the only fucking commercials TBS ran during the playoffs last year. It was unbearable.
V, b.
Skip is #5 on Top Plays
look atchoo.
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Buster says we don't write off the cubs yet.
hmm.
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
with a month to play left
you can’t, really
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 30, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
They're only 5.5 back in the wild card...
But there’s four teams in front of them. If Buster was talking about the division, then he’s fucking retarded.
V, b.
i'm waiting for the never-ending commercials to find out more
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 30, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
and he didn't say anything.
I am confused. Oh well….
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 30, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
They've got us right where they want us.
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 30, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, Gammons said they were toast.
I tend to lend more credence to him than, well, anyone.
(This all, of course, assumes that I actually put any faith in anything any analyst says, which is mostly not true. Try sorting that one out.)
they are only 7 games back in the loss column...
;)
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
by SleepyCA on Aug 30, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow. The Strauss story on Duncan
reveals the well of bitterness in the old man, because of his son’s treatment and because of the way the minor league operation is being run now. It sounds like he’s packing his bags.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Musial
Wow, indeed
that was a myriad of old quotes and no information whatsoever.
The only thing i learned is they don’t conslt Dave when they bring in new starters now, which makes sesnse since they haven’t brought in a new starter in years.
Shut up, Fritz™.
if that is his real name.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 30, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
fits the narrative
the Duncan story, as told to The Chatmeister, would make a compelling tragic opera. Verdi could have done great things with it.
Anyway, can’t blame Dave for sticking up for his son, but if chris was really refusing to seek medical care and playing hurt while clearly unable to play, thus hurting the team, that’s unacceptable.
What’s really interesting is that it seems like TLR is not fully supporting Dave on this…
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
What amazes me
is for about the 9.314th time, the fans could see someone was clearly trying to play hurt and the manager could not.
Shut up, Fritz™.
could not? or just didn't do anything?
one of the things that dave says:
Dave Duncan reacted harshly upon learning of the trade the night of July 21. While reporters were shooed from the Minute Maid Park visiting clubhouse, Duncan lashed out at the team’s training staff in front of players for its handling of his son.
Reminded that Chris consistently denied his injuries when queried by reporters, Duncan insisted, “At some point the club should protect those who don’t protect themselves. Chris didn’t protect himself. And no one else protected him either.”
“no one else” clearly includes the training staff. does it include tony? tony clearly could have sat chris down and said, “you’re not right. i’m not playing you until you’re healthy again.” does dave blame him?
did this create a rift between dave and tony? maybe that’s why dave and tony seem to be on different pages. i also think the timing of the “vomit” speech was very odd. the article reveals that tony already knew that chris was being traded at the time he made the comment. trying to rebuild a bridge with an old friend?
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
possibly OT?
seems like TLR is just a tad more open and easy with this group of players. Of course, there’s the winning, but he’s enjoying himself. Not sure how much that figures if the band breaks up.
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 30, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't let the door hit you on the way out Duncan.
This is a PR coup for the front office. Now they can replace Dave with someone that is more in tune with the youth movement without the backlash that might have resulted otherwise.
and hopefully work with more than one type of pitcher
that was a bunch of nothing though. we already knew everything but the part about Chris refusing to see the Dr. if Dave really doesn’t want to work with guys who can’t throw sinkers, he probably should leave. and if he’s so upset that his son got hurt & told no one, and his play hurt the team & the fans aren’t happy with that, he should leave.
otherwise, honor your contract & kindly STFU.
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Dunc is STFU'ing
He had an outburst over a month ago and PD is getting even on Duncan’s boycott (of STFU and honoring his contract) by running “a story” on what might happen. How brilliant is Strauss going to look if Dunc’s personal business ends up being because of his or his wife’s health?
This will have an immediate, negative affect
on Cardinal pitching. Maybe not so much with guys like Carp and Wainright, but the Lohse’s the JP’s, and the Franklins. Watch. I’ve been saying this for years…..Duncan has been as important to the Cardinal organization since his and TLR’s arrival as anybody except Pujols probably. Yes, probably more important than TLR. We don’t draft SP well. We don’t have a ton of money to throw around, and probably even less with Holliday on board. The one thing we’ve had was a pitching coach that would turn mediocre pitching into pretty damn good pitching. Sometimes it only lasted for a year, but it was important for that year.
I will say this…..if his anger is entirely over the handling of Chris, he is probably at fault more than the FO. But the rest of the things the article mentions him being upset about, there are no excuses. You don’t treat one of the best that way.
I hope he stays. The world will not end if he doesn’t, but I’d just about bet my savings that Cardinal pitching sees a downturn at least for a couple of years.
Matt Holliday. Nuff said.
by SoonerfanTU on Aug 30, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
They said the same thing about Leo Mazzone too
and Braves pitching seems to be doing ok without him.
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Mazzone needed talent.
Heck, I wouldn’t even argue that Duncan could turn that staff around.
Matt Holliday. Nuff said.
by SoonerfanTU on Aug 30, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I could have been an awesome pitching coach with Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz all in their primes
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 30, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is exactly what Duncan needs
right now, the pitching staff is excelling with a former Cy Young winner on top of his game, a perhaps future Cy Young winner on top of his game, a guy making $7.5M and having a career year, a guy making $7.125 and being mediocre, and a future Hall of Famer who appears to be turning it around, with terrible starts by Wellemeyer and frighteningly average starts by Boggs mixed in.
Duncan has talent now and will need talent in the future to keep his title of “worlds best pitching coach.”
Shut up, Fritz™.
Go check the numbers.....
There was a distinct fall-off after he left. I have no idea which metric you’ll want to use, but for ease of argument, using ERA, their NL rank in the three years after LM was 10th, 3rd, and 12th. The three years before was 9th, 1st, and 6th.
I also don’t place LM and Duncan in the same boat. Seems to me that LM did a good job of turning studs into studs. I don’t remember him doing the same things that Duncan is known for doing, which is turning below average or average guys, into service-able 2/3 types. THAT is where his value is in my eyes. Like I said, STL hasn’t done a good job of drafting legit 1/2 types, we’ve only traded for one that I can recall (Waino), and we can’t afford to go sign a bunch of them. What happens IF we lose the ability to transform the Weavers, the Marquis, the Suppans, the JP’s, and the Lohse’s?
Matt Holliday. Nuff said.
by SoonerfanTU on Aug 30, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
There's no way you can eyeball something like this
and say that if the staff sucks next year, it’s because of DD. We’ve seen pitcher’s who haven’t succeeded under Duncan, we’ve seen some who get worse and we’ve seen some who get better. The staff turnover for a rotation and bullpen makes any direct evaluation of Duncan’s impact damn near impossible.
There’s simply too many variables.
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Isn't eye-balling what you MUST do
On something that can’t be measured statistically? Or should we just not discuss things that can’t be measured for that reason?
I agree that a direct comparison isn’t a very good measure as an overall team indicator. But if we resign JP, or you see Carp/Waino struggle for an entire year, I think we could say that DD had something to do with that, save injury problems.
Matt Holliday. Nuff said.
So what do we say now when a pitcher struggles? Your position isn’t consistent within the context of the timeframe that Duncan HAS been here much less once he’s gone.
But please, don’t let that dim the lights in your shrine to the coaching staff.
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I don't remember.....
having what I’d call a good pitcher struggle for an extended period of time under Duncan. Nor do I recall too many SP’s that haven’t had at least one productive season under Duncan. Maybe a couple, but not many.
I just don’t understand not giving props to a guy, a guy that outside of the Cardinal organization is regarded VERY highly. Kind of one of those “if nearly everybody has the opposite opinion that you do, you are either VERY smart, or wrong” type of deals. Duncan is very, very good at what he does. Perfect? No. The best in the business today? Almost assuredly.
Matt Holliday. Nuff said.
by SoonerfanTU on Aug 30, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Marquis sucked under Duncan after 04.
Weaver sucked under Duncan, too. Suppan was average, Pineiro and Lohse both have had one good season for him and one average to bad season. Just like Wellemeyer.
Kip Wells, Sidney Ponson, Anthony Reyes, Rick Ankiel. The guy is a good pitching coach, but his “touch of gold” reputation is bullshit.
Shut up, Fritz™.
I never said he could take junk.....
And turn them into something unimaginable for 10 more seasons. But taking a bad pitcher, and making him good for even 1 season is a plus.
Matt Holliday. Nuff said.
But for every bad pitcher
he has “taken” and made “good”, he’s also taken a bad pitcher and kept “bad.” His rep outweighs his results.
Shut up, Fritz™.
Did Mazzone have the same reputation for reclamation projects though?
Mazzone had three HOFs (Glavine, Smoltz, and Maddux) which built his reputation. I don’t think Dunc has had quite the same talent in STL. Even Carp was not the pitcher he is now before coming to STL.
The ability to take scrap-heap level pitchers and turn them into valuable pieces, even for a limited time (like Wellemeyer or Pineiro, e.g.), is a hugely valuable service to a team, from an economic and performance perspective.
I think Dunc certainly needs to recognize other people’s failure in his son’s situation (like TLR’s and Chris’, as well as management and the medical staff) if he does not currently, but that doesn’t mean I don’t want him back as the pitching coach.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 30, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
If we're going to give Duncan credit
for a guy like Carp getting healthy, then I have no chance at winning this argument. Duncan has been as instrumental to Carpenter’s success as he has been to mine.
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by azruavatar on Aug 30, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If you think Carp is only better because of health...
and his success since coming to the Cards cannot be attributed at all to his pitching coach, then you must have gotten this information directly from Carpenter and I salute you for your inside-sourcing. Otherwise, you’re just talking out of your muffler (or whatever is on the tail end of a robot’s waste disposal system).
The comparison to Leo Mazzone is a complete non-sequitur, btw. The issue is whether Dunc is worth more to the Cards as a pitching coach than some hypothetical replacement. Your opinion is evidently that DD is not an asset since the success of the pitchers in STL (like Carp) are not in any way attributable to his coaching (I think I’m safe in assuming that DD’s effect on your success is nil). I guess we’ll just differ in opinion.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 30, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Carpenter was regarded as a top notch talent
for a long time before coming to STL; he just couldn’t stay healthy. To say that he became a Cy Young winner with Duncan but wouldn’t have with another pitching coach is a massive assumption, imo. Did Duncan help him? Probably. If he had been healthy and random pitching coach A had been in STL would he have won a Cy Young? I think the answer to that is still yes.
It’s the same argument we have with TLR as a manager. There’s no real way to measure the impact so we’re left debating unfalsifiable opinions.
Dave Duncan is probably a fine coach. He does good work with retreads. I think he’s abominable (truly awful) at working with young pitchers. I also think he’s very, very hard headed about his approach to pitching and it’s to his detriment.
StL without Dave Duncan probably looks different but achieves similar results as StL with Dave Duncan.
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Well...
I didn’t say Carp wasn’t a top notch talent – I said, IMO, he was better for having DD as his pitching coach rather than another hypothetical pitching coach. In any event, an argument like this isn’t capable of being “won” – perhaps the best one could do is ask Carp himself given his knoweldge of and experience with other coaches.
To your second point, too many around here (not necessarily you, but maybe you in this instance) wrongly equate not being able to measure an effect with the effect not existing. This is wrong in many contexts, but especially wrong when the measurement tools are poor and there are too many interdependent factors that cannot be controlled. Of course, the relationship between winning baseball games and baseball managing/coaching is a prime example (which leads to so much debate on this website).
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 30, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
does any one else think that colby's smooth home run was longer than 444'
it was the same place as prince’s in the derby and they were supposed to be 480’-490’
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Aug 30, 2009 12:36 AM EDT reply actions
also, I was wondering how far Dunn hit his
did it look like it went the same distance?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 30, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
dunn's was the same place as colby's walkoff
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Aug 30, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
he's going to be a pretty sweet hitter next year methinks
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 30, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
~410'
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Aug 30, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
ah
I couldn’t tell how much of a blast it was from the radio and the gamethread
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 30, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
dunn's looks farther
but colby’s was hit into a stairwell, so it’s hard to tell where it really landed. Both were crushed.
the “o” face on colby in the slow-motion replay was hilarious…
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
yeah, it was one of the best home runs I've seen this season, when mlb network showed it
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 30, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
just replayed it
That was a bizarre high-five sequence, is all. Standard palms, then a long tap to the jaw. Then some post-sequence chest thumping.
So if you’re stalking Colby, no worries. You don’t have to kill Boog.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
yup
It almost looked like Colby forgot what he was supposed to do, so it was prolonged.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
what a play
there were a lot of good second baseman plays tonight
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 30, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
That was a fun game
Went to the game tonight. Despite it not exactly being a nail biter, that is one of the best times I’ve ever had at a game. What a great atmosphere! When Thompson was mopping up at the end it felt like Franklin (who sucks) was pitching and we were up like one run or something.
Seeing that play by Skip was unreal. I remember thinking when the ball was hit “well that’s a single” and then yelling “you’ve got to be fucking kidding me!” when Skip actually made that play.
Gregatron is not responsible for any of the crap he just wrote.
St. Louis vegetarian blog
it's pretty fun downtown these days.
Like hawk and animal used to say: “WHAT A RUSH!”
Shut up, Fritz™.
WIth tomorrow's lopsided pitching matchup...
I will pay everyone here 100 internet dollars if we don’t sweep.
There’s no way the GOBs let Carp and Waino miss out on wins to shitty teams in the same week.
No way.
V, b.
is that you luke
GOB-tempting?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
because the GOBs had no idea they could do that
until you suggested it
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
and a bazillion cruel angry GOB's
i’ll be shocked if AW makes it out of the 3rd inning.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
Leg amputation surgery scheduled for 10 AM tomorrow
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by jd is legend on Aug 30, 2009 3:38 AM EDT up reply actions
adds like 10 mph to the tall-and-fall delivery
gonna be the next t-j, i tell ya.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
the pitcher tomorrow for the Nats is Mock
I hope the GOBs don’t mock you
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 30, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Now everyone has a scapegoat...
It’s win-win for you guys. If Waino wins, we’re all happy. If he loses, everyone blames me and gets imaginary money at the same time. Pretty solid if you ask me.
V, b.
Mock
thought it was funny
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 30, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
thanku
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 30, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
If the Cards lose
and you end up unconscious, face down on Market from an Adam Wainwright bobblehead striking you on the base of your skull, it wasn’t me, lawyers.
Shut up, Fritz™.
Matt LaPorta wears his hat crooked...
I’m sort of disappointed that the Brewers traded him, because that’s just the kind of doucheness that is perfect for that organization.
V, b.
it would be awesome if he untucked his shirt after a win
and then got smacked in the head by a teammate.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
That's what funny about that crap...
It’s infuriating when they’re good, but when they suck like they do now, you just laugh at them. Either way, it is certainly both douchebaggery and dumbasserry.
V, b.
disagree
That just means the Padres and Pirates and the Nats laugh at them.
I’m still trying to find footage of the Brew Crew’s giant pre-game trust circle.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
So
does Colby.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I thought that was just his head.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 30, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
hoo boy
I might need therapy for my antisocial behavior, Went out tonight, met my new classmates, and still all I could think the whole time was about was the Cards. Colby going yard, love it so much.
if your classmates don't want to talk about the Cards
there’s something wrong with ’em.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Anyone who rereads the Duncan-Lugo thread
will find all of this information there.
At the time, Mozeliak had informed La Russa that a trade was all but done. La Russa told his longtime pitching coach that night after the deal had been consummated. Chris and several teammates learned the news moments later. Because the Red Sox stipulated Duncan first be optioned, an official announcement was embargoed until the next afternoon.
This is also a kicker and it explains why there are issues with (some) minor leaguers transitioning to the big leagues:
Professional differences with the team’s player development side are a compounding issue. Dave Duncan was a member of Walt Jocketty’s inner circle prior to Jocketty’s dismissal as general manager in October 2007. Since Mozeliak’s hiring, player development has become more autonomous under vice president of scouting and player development Jeff Luhnow. A number of Duncan’s confidantes, including former minor-league pitching coordinator Mark Riggins, have resigned or been removed. Duncan now isn’t consulted on either potential player acquisitions or organization instruction. Communication between the two sides is scattershot, at best.
Prospects literally hear something different in St. Louis than they do in the minors. The approach to the game, stressing certain ways of pitching, etc are a tale of two cities to butcher a horrible cliche. Luhnow and Mozeliak are being forced to wait out TLR and DD to fully institute their overall plan for the club. DeWitt feels like it would be a PR nightmare to fire either TLR or DD (or really any of the coaching staff because they are all so close knit) so it’s a very big divide between the two sides.
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that's kind of a buzzkill, huh
"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang
somewhat
although, I’ve read the Strauss article several times now, and I don’t entirely agree with the timeline he presents. The sentiments of Duncan and TLR are accurate but my understanding was that Chris was aware of this prior to his father.
It could be that Chris had been approached or approached the FO himself about a move prior to consulting DD but didn’t find out about the actual trade until after his father. There was a family disconnect there as well though.
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lock up Carpenter
I’d take him as a pitching coach. Especially since it seems he spent his entire rehab time nosing around Dave’s notes.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 30, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
It'll be interesting to see how a turnover of the coaching staff will happen:
TLR: 1996
McRae: 2004
DD: 1995
McKay: 1996
Oquendo: 2000
Pettini: 2002
Mason: 2000
That’s just 2 coaches with less than a decades tenure and everyone’s been around for at least 5 years. I have to wonder if any other team has had that kind of continuity.
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it just seems like they're all connected, too
but if oquendo really does take over when tlr leaves, it seems like there’d be a good chance for the continuity to remain. and btw, if dunc really is muddling the organizational plan as is being reported (and this is how it has seemed for a long time, anyhow), then we can’t get rid of him soon enough.
"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang
I'm happy with those last four
Mostly I’m concerned as to who gets Dave Duncan’s services afterwards. If he stays in-division… well. Didn’t we just have a couple of posts illustrating that our offense can’t hit Dave Duncan style pitching staffs?
I’m serious about Carp, though. I don’t know how that’ll figure into his retirement plans, but he’s got a good eye and the right mindset. Some years down the line, some work in the minors — I’d bite. It could be some metaphor that Carp was standing in DD’s usual spot when Shelby threw his session.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 30, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
not the Braves
Bobby Cox — 1990
Glenn Hubbard — 1999
Terry Pendleton — 2002
Roger McDowell — 2005
Brian Snitkers — 2007
Chino Cadahia — 2007
Eddie Perez — 2007
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Duncan
I thinks its fair to say that DD is one of the best pitching coaches in the league. Some of the stuff about his meddling with player development is disconcerting, but his being able to take crappy/mediocre pitchers and turn them around has made this team what it is. So my question is, do we need to start Operation Midwest Nice with Dave Duncan?
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