Saturday 8/29 Open Thread
by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2009 2:12 PM EDT
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Things to discuss:
Will the Washington Nine be dumb enough to retaliate for Albert's bat flip?
Doesn't Mitch Boggs seem like a random enough guy to randomly throw a no-hitter (while walking six)?
Interesting John Smoltz facts:
He has splits versus three of the four base coaches in the Nationals v. Cardinals series, and against the fourth's spawn (also known as the worst baseball player in the history of organized rounders).
Smoltz v. Marquis Grissom
Smoltz v. Pat The Bat Listach
Smoltz v. Jose Oquendo
Smoltz v. Cody McKay
Also, John Smoltz is so old, that following his first big league victory, he danced the Charleston on top of a flagpole whole holding the Lindbergh baby.
Leave all poetry, ASCII art, and other non-sense below.
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Fritz for Mod!
Seriously dude, why do you have to work on Saturday?
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
by guayzimi on Aug 29, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's already a mod...
Right?
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
I just assumed since you’re listed as a kneecapper in the enforcement of guidelines.
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Board of Elders!
We have nary convened in a fortnight!
Seriously, this place has seemingly ran itself for years now.
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer it that way
The mod’s are smart. They don’t really get involved in anything unless they have to. When they do ban someone they just do it and don’t say they did.
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 29, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who are some notable victims in the past couple years?
I know WCBW, but anyone else that was a regular?
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mr Redbird
finally got the much needed boot.
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And now he's hiding in plain sight!
Using his own name no less! If only HL had such gall.
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a fucker
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 29, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
was he the guy...
who kept calling reggie sanders “colored”?
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
by guayzimi on Aug 29, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha...
‘Mr Redbird’ is ‘jd is legend’.
I would like to know who used to call Reggie Sanders colored, though.
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it might have been jedmonds999...
that isn’t you is it? If so, the phrase is “african-american” or just “black”.
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
by guayzimi on Aug 29, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't lay claim to that one...
It was probably one of those racist hate-mongers in the bleachers at Wrigley Field.
Just ask Milton Bradley.
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
Might have been…you know how those Alabama folks can be
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 29, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't seen Opera in a while
something happen there?
"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
by RiverRat on Aug 29, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did they boot the alias then as well?
"Obviously, tipping pitches didn't help" - John Smotzl
by RiverRat on Aug 29, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LB banned the dude on the spot when he said something like
“Miles for MVP” when he fouled off the ball that ended Juan’s career. i forget his name, but i liked him. he wasn’t a bad dude, that was just a stupid thing to say.
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by gdm426 on Aug 29, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh sorry you must be thinking of this kneecapper
"It's a BLT with a fried crab on it, Whaaaaaaaaa?"
by pinkelposse on Aug 29, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the soundtrack?
“he’s hackin,wackin, choppin at me.
"It's a BLT with a fried crab on it, Whaaaaaaaaa?"
by pinkelposse on Aug 30, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fritz for Overlord!
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
by guayzimi on Aug 29, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I, for one, welcome our new
pastry chef overlord
by mattyp on Aug 29, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was awesome...
Pineiro sighting at 6:37
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by guayzimi on Aug 29, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Get it, get it, you fool!
By all that’s holy, someone catch that sphere…..you ass! What’s wrong with you?"
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 29, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's my new fanpost about our pitching in general
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2009/8/29/1007005/pitching-ftw
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'd bet washington retaliates
but they probably will plunk the leadoff man or something like that. in all fairness, albert probably deserves one in the ribs.
How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor
by themanthemyth on Aug 29, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah!
Be more like Eckstein, Pujols!
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Albert gets drilled...
Tony will have a shit fit, and Boggs is going to be sacrificed quickly (assuming the benched get warned). I hope Brad Thompson is ready to go. But I doubt they actually hit him.
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for what?
Flipping his bat? He was pissed because they came up and in on him and then the guy followed that with an awful pitch that deserved nothing less than to end up in Illinois.
If they start throwing at our players, Pujols is liable to have one of those days where he doesn’t make any outs.
by nota bene on Aug 29, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can't deny that albert was sending a message with the stand, stare and flip of the bat
he should have just hit the ball 500 feet and run around the bases. enjoy the win. i don’t know why albert gets to take exception to up and in fastballs that are a routine part of the game. he’s the same guy who got pissed when gallardo (?) from the brewers “disrespected his teammates.” albert definitely disrespected the nationals squad without any good reason other than he had a frustrating night at the plate.
How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor
by themanthemyth on Aug 29, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The bat flip was a little over the top...
But like it or not, he routinely stands and watches his home runs. So he just milked it a little more than usual due to his frustration and it being a walkoff. He was staring at the ball, not the pitcher or any Washington player. Gallardo stared into the Cardinal dugout and screamed, which is little different in my opinion.
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember some finger-pointing being associated with the Gallardo incident as well
may be getting that mixed up with something else.
by nota bene on Aug 29, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's right...
Gallardo had a death wish.
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was Villanueva wasn't it?
From last year?
by mopack on Aug 29, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its seems we agree on the facts
we just have a different value judgement. i’m willing to accept that.
How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor
by themanthemyth on Aug 29, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was villanueva
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gallardo seems pretty classy to me
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh okay...
He said Gallardo and I didn’t even think about it.
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my bad
How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor
by themanthemyth on Aug 29, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BE MORE LIKE ECKSTEIN!!!
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SUGGEST MORE STRAWMEN!!!!
How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor
by themanthemyth on Aug 29, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh oh. Fritz is gonna stab you.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 29, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm working on an 85 degree august saturday
it couldnt get much worse
How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor
by themanthemyth on Aug 29, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's like 80
in St. Louis. I had to work, and Fritz did, too. BLAH.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 29, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude
you could be in austin where it’s been 100-105 since the ens of may
it is niiiiiiiiiice in mid mo. kinda chilly this morning
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eckstein isn't made of straw!
He’s all heart and grit!
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saturday night
Got my Khalil’s ‘n Franklin’s ready to go.
by leefyg on Aug 29, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Smoltz vs Jose Oquendo
hmmm, I wonder how many at bats for that matchup
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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follow the link!
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh
I clicked on the Jose Oquendo part of the link, but the John Smoltz part goes to BR
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he had a good eye vs smoltz
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
I want to know the game situation when Smoltz intentionally walked Jose in 1990. And also if Jose has brought this up to him yet.
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Jose was hitting 8th...
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
man on 2nd & 3rd, one out Byrn Smith on deck
4th inning of 2-1 game May 21, 1990
Didn’t work, Byrn hit a single, after Pendleton got picked off 3B and Vince Coleman plated two
by ubeddie on Aug 29, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember that...
it was actually a busted squeeze.
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
by guayzimi on Aug 29, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone has to remind Smoltz of that!
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The next day...
Cox IBB’d him again and the Cardinal pitcher singled again…
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
by guayzimi on Aug 29, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Albert hit that grand slam against the Cubs in April...
Soto just throws his hands up in disgust.
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I LOVED Mark Grace's reaction
to the slam off Oswalt. It was like HE took it in the gut
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by gocards62 on Aug 29, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I loved that!
I still haven’t deleted that game from my DVR just so I can watch Soto’s reaction from time to time.
by ArkansasTravs on Aug 29, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I has a sad.
Awesome.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Aug 29, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i could watch those all day
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by gdm426 on Aug 29, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to see the pitch...
that was supposedly at his head…
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
by guayzimi on Aug 29, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just wait til his first AB tonight.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Aug 29, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The kid above the H in Busch Stadium...
wins the best reflexes award.
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
by guayzimi on Aug 29, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha...
But in all fairness, that kid was probably freaking out as soon as any contact was made.
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what about Dad
next to him. Looks like he’s offering up the baby as a sacrifice to the GOBs
by ubeddie on Aug 29, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
rec'd
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Aug 29, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh great GOBs! Take my first born as a gift for being so gracious!
Rec, btw
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 29, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he promised he would offer the first one who leaped up
to meet an Albert Pujols home run.
To his chagrin, his first born son immediately sprang to his feet and cried out with joy.
So he offered the younger brother instead.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
He just did that on every pitch. Something about broken clocks and blind pigs.
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 29, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
from mlb.com
bj rains is covering the Nats this series
“I was really pumped up and amped to face Pujols in a tough situation, and I threw a pitch that I regret throwing right now,” Bergmann said as he sat and stared into his locker. “For me, right now, it’s only a couple of minutes after it happened and I’m not very happy with both the location and the pitch. In hindsight, I wouldn’t have thrown it. I’d like to have thrown something different, and hopefully the result would have been a lot different.”
by ubeddie on Aug 29, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?"
“IS THIS NOT WHY YOU ARE HERE!?!”
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Cubs are about to take on the Buffalo Bisons on FOX...
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
leach twitter update on Welly
Wellemeyer just told us he’ll be pitching in relief for Memphis on Monday and Wednesday.
Looks like no more starts for Welly as a Cardinal.
by ubeddie on Aug 29, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
searching for the perfect
word to describe our above-average first baseman, but don’t know how to spell it?
Well never fear, this website is just for you!
Albert Pujols is ridiculous.
by stlhulsey on Aug 29, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nonsense...
Rediculous is the proper spelling.
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's something horrifically ironic
in calling “rediculous” spellers communists while the website folks are trying to convince everyone to become spelling Nazis…..
by nota bene on Aug 29, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
nazi’s weren’t communists.
Albert Pujols is ridiculous.
by stlhulsey on Aug 29, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to get all political but...
I had the longest argument with this guy the other day trying to tell me how liberal’s were Nazi’s and Communist. I tried to explain him WW2 history and how WW2 started. Than I realized this idiot was just bringing me down to his level.
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 29, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have not had anyone try to pull that one on me in person
I just can’t comprehend the mindset that allow somebody to blurt something like that out. I wouldn’t be able to help myself.
Must….correct….screaming….affront….to….history….
by nota bene on Aug 29, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rec
guilty
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a very common...
meme on the right wing radio circuit… Not saying I agree or disagree, not talking politics, just saying the guy didn’t think that up on his own.
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
by guayzimi on Aug 29, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course he didn't. No one has actual ideas anymore.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 29, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
by tehzachatak on Aug 29, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it must be hard to be a Republican
John McCain seems like a pretty decent guy but so much crazy talk besides him.
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 29, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's ntot exactly easy being liberal, either
especially where I work.
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My boss thinks
that being anything but moderate is the same as being an extremist.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 29, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My friends in other countries especially non-North American
Think American’s are crazy.
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 29, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
People in other countries
think of Americans the way we Americans think of people in Appalachia.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 29, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a communist hippie where I work!
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
everybody I work with is other-side-of-the-aisle, and they used to like to bait me….
by nota bene on Aug 29, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Liberal friends think I am a Republican
And my conservative friends think I am a Democrat
So I got to be doing something right
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 29, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
normally...
the most out spoken ones are the crazy ones. this goes for both sides.
by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it's all socialism!
And socialism is evil!
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 29, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nazis (far right) and communists (far left) are on the exact opposite sides of the political spectrum...
it’s hard to be more wrong than that guy.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 29, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless you consider the political spectrum circular
rather than linear, in which nazi communists eventually meet.
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is novel. but i think the only places nazis and communists have "met" are places like stalingrad and kursk
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 29, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tell people I'm so liberal
I’m almost libertarian and they have no idea what I’m talking about.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 29, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
liberal : libertarian :: nazism : communism
well, not exactly, but close.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
by SleepyCA on Aug 30, 2009 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Circular spectrum, people.
Almost all of us are playing in the same arena.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 30, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Further,
many liberals are social libertarians.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 30, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even further
(and this is my pet peeve) ‘libertarian’ is a made-up word that means what the rest of the non-Canadian English-speaking world calls ‘liberal’.
Americans started conflating ‘liberal’ with ‘leftist’ back when the anti New Deal crowd was trying to convince Americans that Social Security was going to lead us down the road of freebasing and wild sex parties, and they wanted to conflate social liberatarianism with social spending. It’s an incorrect, propaganda usage of the word.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Sep 3, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hear hear!
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Sep 3, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
National Socialism
Say what you like about the tenets of it, at least it’s an ethos.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 29, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the thing with socialism is, you always run out of someone else's money
which is what’s happening now to the USA.
/no politics jackass!!!!
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by gdm426 on Aug 29, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not the war that's expensive.
It’s the socialism.
/the only political shot I’ve ever taken on this shot because dammit, everyone else gets them in
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 29, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we got two wars going on, so it's twice as expensive!
i honestly don’t know what i am anymore. i don’t know what to think of the wars anymore. i think everyone should pull their own weight. i think the gov’t roll should be very small & their only jobs should be protecting it’s citizens & make sure the infrastructure doesn’t fall apart. so what does that make me? i don’t know, i really don’t.
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by gdm426 on Aug 29, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does infrastructure mean to you?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 29, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
roads, interstates, highway's, etc
nuclear power plants probably as well. but that’s a tricky one because aren’t most electric/power companies private?
why? am i doing it wrong again?
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by gdm426 on Aug 29, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, there are also
schools, police, fire, EMT, post office, regulatory agencies, foreign services, IT, intel, disaster relief, social services, etc.
Some are critical, some could probably be scaled down.
But we haven’t had “small government” since the post-industrial age, and most of the time when we have tried to “limit” government (states rights for disasters, pruning market regulations) we’ve done it wrong.
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right, but the poice, fire, emt's, intell, etc can fall under the protection services
i think everyone can agree most schools are a mess. should that mean the gov’t should privatize them all? i don’t really know. but i think it should be looked into. it won’t be easy though, i remember when Reagan broached the subject & all hell just about broke loose.
also i forgot to throw in water & sewer type services, red lights, stop signs & stuff like that when i said infrastructure.
you are correct though, we’ve had a “big” gov’t for a while. and it’s nearly impossible to get rid of it now. which is why i can totally understand why so many are against it getting any bigger.
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by gdm426 on Aug 29, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have all the answers
to all the questions or anything, but one thing is becoming clear: quality of life is higher in many other countries, for less money. America is slipping behind, and quickly.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 29, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what do you mean by quality of life?
are you referring to health, wealth or something else?
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by gdm426 on Aug 30, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, health for sure.
But off the top of my head: job opportunities, quality of education, life expectancy, access to high quality food. We spend out the ass for very little. The system is financially inefficient because it’s such a clusterf*ck and no one feels it more than the working poor.
The government, and it’s representatives, is too beholden to special interests to straighten out any of this mess. These special interests (big companies, essentially) love it that we’re so busy arguing over the issues we’ve been told mean everything (hot button stuff) that they’re making out like bandits to a greater degree than ever. Meanwhile, we argue over bullshit and fewer and fewer people can afford or have access to the very things that would make us free.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 30, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NEVERMIND THE WAR!
THE GAYS WANT TO MARRY!
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 30, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gay people are getting married folks!
It’s nasty! Imagine that. (…) Two men. Barbecue. “I like you.” “I like you too, dog.” “Let’s get married man!” It’s crazy! That shit is gross!
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 30, 2009 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lobbyist should be outlawed
any company buying a politician, no matter how they do it should be as well.
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by gdm426 on Aug 30, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lobbyists
give voices to groups of people who are minorities. Do you think the Americans with Disabilities Act could have happened without lobbyists? It’s definitely an area that needs major reform.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 30, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What we need is a constitutional amendment
allowing Congress to set spending limits on campaigns and banning independent expenditures on issue ads.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Sep 3, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ZOMG ENGLISH ISN'T OUR OFFICIAL LANGUAGE!
IF YOU DONT THINK IT SHOULD BE OUR OFFICIAL LANGUAGE YOUR A TERRORIST
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 30, 2009 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eventually,
once Kevin Costner and Ford Lincoln Mercury retake the United States, I’d like to see a new form of government where no politician was allowed to claim a party, and they were only allowed to run for office on their own beliefs and theories.
The American two party system is so homogenized that Democrats and Republicans agree on probably 98% of issues, but the hyperbole machines at the likes of MSNBC and FOX News would have you thinking people who vote differently than you want to eat babies and steal your guns. (In the last two presidencies, both with their massive faults, Clinton did more to deregulate banks and be fiscally responsible than any president in my life time, yet will never get credit from conservatives, and Bush gave more for AIDS research in Africa and infrastructure development in third world countries than any prez in my lifetime and no liberal media outlet would give him credit for that.)
Meanwhile we’ve changed from Republican to Democrats in the White House and in Congress and back in forth perpetually for the last… well… forever, and America has never drastically changed.
The powers that be, besides the Fed and the banks who control us all (“Money aint got no owners. Only spenders” -Omar Little), whether Democrats or Republicans make money from the people they serve – corporations and the finical elite – and the media makes money scaring the proverbial pants off of all Americans riling up bullshit.
Shit never changes. And won’t until we evolve our political system to stop painting everyone one color or the other.
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would love if the two party system was gone
and everyone ran on their beliefs & just that. it’s too hard nowadays to paint everyone into the two boxes of republican & democrat. i don’t think anyone fits in them any more.
i’m too cynical though fritz, i don’t think 98% agree on the issues. if you put 100 people from all over the country in a room, it’d be nearly impossible to get them to agree on many of the issues & problems this country is facing. i do though leave the door wide open that i am dead wrong about this. in fact, i hope i am wrong.
speaking of the Fed, i’ve been wanting to read this book for a couple months now. it’s about how the Fed was created & just how our money system got where it is today. i’ve always like history & money, and this covers both pretty well from what i’ve been told.
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by gdm426 on Aug 30, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only issues
politicians use to rail on to part us against each others, in these current culture wars, are abortion, gay marriage, and, now, universal health care. Those are THREE issues out of everything that goes on in this enormous country of ours. And even with those (and maybe a few more that I’m missing) issues, moderates on both sides, which are basically 80% of the population can come to a conclusion if not to politely “agree to disagree” on.
It’s the wacko 10% on both sides that are weighing us down. Most of my friends are conservative, but when we sit down and have a beer or two, we almost always come into agreement on issues. but a lot of folks these days don’t want to hear differing opinions and sit in a vast echo chamber, masturbating in their own beliefs, until they’re convinced people who don’t agree with them on one or two issues out of millions should have no voice whatsoever.
Speaking of, hey! Lou Dobbs follows the postgame!
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 30, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"masturbating in the own beliefs"
i couldn’t have said it better. even if i had Scrubs writers writing my lines.
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by gdm426 on Aug 30, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank goodness for subject lines...
Because those 2 giant GIFs are murdering this thread in cold blood.
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We are getting ready to head down town
Any word on line ups?
by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Us
Schumaker 2B
Ryan SS
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Ludwick RF
Rasmus CF
DeRosa 3B
LaRue C
Boggs P
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 29, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like seeing Skip there
not cause I have a man-crush on him, or I have anything against Lugo, but because it means we’re facing a right-handed pitcher, which means we have a chance to score more than 3 runs.
Good to see Molina get the day off, he’s been looking worn down recently.
by nota bene on Aug 29, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Molina should play...
a lot less than he does. LaRue is starter caliber.
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
by guayzimi on Aug 29, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nats
Nationals lineup:
1. Harris CF
2. Guzman SS
3. Zimmerman 3B
4. Dunn 1B
5. Willingham LF
6. Dukes RF
7. Orr 2B
8. Nieves C
9. Stammen P
by ubeddie on Aug 29, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Belly?
I was afraid of Belly. Hmmm.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone posted it in DanUp's thread...
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
screw danup and his thread...
this is “the thread”
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
by guayzimi on Aug 29, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
watch out
with that kind of talk, you may have the Board of Elders after you.
by ubeddie on Aug 29, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're sticking up for...
Fritz’s thread…
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
by guayzimi on Aug 29, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Screw the Board of Elders...
Fritz was on the viva Mayflower, so to speak.
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
by guayzimi on Aug 29, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Viva el Spelling!
Pilgrims
/asshole
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 29, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he knew John Smoltz?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's how they communicated back then
with singing pilgrams
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy shit...
Tim McCarver just said that “Go Cubs Go” is the best song associated with any team in the big leagues. He sad he “loves that song.”
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I heard that.....
But after chastising them for the Bradley deal, McCarver has to try to get back in the Cubs good graces.
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by The_teague on Aug 29, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What other songs are associated with any team in the big leagues?
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 29, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were comparing it some Mets song...
And it wasn’t “Meet the Mets”.
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I rocked it to some
Heat is On after the game last night.
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oriole Magic
hasn’t been played in over a decade or two though. In case you are interested.
by ubeddie on Aug 29, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure the Official Cardinal Fan Theme Song
is this
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 29, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some people
enjoy different ways of celebrating after a win.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 29, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
by tehzachatak on Aug 29, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but in all seriousness
this has got to be one of the greatest songs ever written about baseball, cubs related or not
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
by tehzachatak on Aug 29, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
worst. song. ever.
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone watching the Cubs v. Mets game on FOX?
A plague of flies or moths or locusts has swarmed the field? The things are massive? Anyone else seeing this? Dragonflies is what they are saying?
Are they attracted by the smell of piss and bad baseball?
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by The_teague on Aug 29, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
(I put way too many question marks in there, disregard them)
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by The_teague on Aug 29, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They also showed a giant water spout out on the lake...
I think God is unleashing the plagues on those pagan, racist bleacher bums.
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, a storm is gonna come, the earth is going to open, and all the dragonflies are gonna eat Hendry alive.
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by The_teague on Aug 29, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With the way the Mets have played
this season, and the general suck that is the Cubs, there’s a lot to attract them.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 29, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs scored a run...
Bisons still lead 2-1…
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Every convo I've had with people about music if they were born in 1992 or later. [xkcd]
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 29, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Haha....And the truth...
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by The_teague on Aug 29, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But...
Didn’t metallica have their own Guitar hero?
by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that should be green damnit
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by gdm426 on Aug 29, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Albert's walk off was not on the first pitch
please stop talking, McCarver.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Aug 29, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, its a bad decision to put McCarver and Buck on a Cubs-Mets game
Its obvious that Buck would rather talk about the Cardinals than talk about the Cubs.
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by The_teague on Aug 29, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
i just turned it on. and all he’s talked about is the cards
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2-2, Bradley with a double
Thanks Mets, who the hell is Parnell, sounds like the kind of guy that would give us fits, but drop 5+ in 3 innings against everyone else.
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by The_teague on Aug 29, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who are the Mets?
You mean the Bisons.
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda like how we were the Redbirds earlier this year. Makes sense.
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by The_teague on Aug 29, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and McCarver
admits he took way to many blows to the head :-)
by DarkHelmut on Aug 29, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
'splains a lot
but not why he’s still in the booth.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Aug 29, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fucking Olive Garden commercials!
God!
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If I was ever out to dinner with folks like that,
nobody at my table would leave without a knife wound.
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The duller the knife
the worse the wound.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 29, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only people like that even existed...
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You do the math, I'll do the alfredo!
/hangs self
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 29, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's what she said.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe and Tim are surprised at Lou's objective view of the Cardinals...
I guess they expected him to reason like the average Cubs fan.
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What did he say?
“theyr’e better than us?”
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much...
He didn’t flat out say the Cardinals were better, but just that they’ve done a really good job. Joe and Tim were surprised.
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody ever says that.
The appropriate phrase is, “They’re playing better baseball right now.”
Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.
by Cardinals645 on Aug 29, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Besides, it would be, "They're better than we."
Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.
by Cardinals645 on Aug 29, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SCHNEIDER
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Excellent sight before cutting to commercial
Mets fan undoes neck brace with arm in sling, drinks beer
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 29, 2009 5:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
wondering if it was supposed to be symbolic
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the injuries may have been self inflicted
Probably right after this game
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 29, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn.
I’m in New Orleans, and Fox is carrying a Saints preseason game against the hapless Raiders. In the second quarter the Saints are already ahead 24-0. I want my baseball!
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Musial
by vico on Aug 29, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But the Raiders sucked because of Lane Kiffin!
Right? Right!?
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Raiders sucked regardless of Lane Kiffin
Although they were 1-3 with him last season and 4-8 without
If his name were Lane Johnson, he’d be flipping burgers at McDonald’s
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 29, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Iowa State...
2007: 3-9
2008: 2-10
But clearly we’re the ones that should be worried about our head coach. See my avatar.
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously the coaches of our two teams have struggled as HCs so far
But one has taken his new job, put his nose to the grindstone, and quietly gone about his business, while for the most part getting the entirety of the fanbase that was livid after his hiring to fully support him and his staff. The other has run his mouth non-stop and made enemies with half of the SEC, while dividing the fanbase that was so supportive of his hire initially. Not to say Kiffin hasn’t worked hard or what not, but he’s letting his mouth write checks that his ass can’t check (IMO). I’d also be wary of bringing an NFL DC in to coaching his highly complicated scheme to college kids who don’t have all day to spend watching film.
Yes, I’m a Lane Kiffin hater. Don’t care who knows it.
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 29, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fan base isn't split...
With all due respect, you have no idea what you’re talking about. The only UT fans that are upset about Lane are the ones who can’t stop tonguing Phil’s balls. Everything he has done has been with the attention of drawing attention from recruits to a program that Phil had run into the ground. And it worked. But he insulted Urban Meyer’s delicate sensibilities, so now he’s a villain of epic proportions. And we don’t give a shit of Florida beats the crap out of us this year, they’ve done it two years in a row so we can handle it just fine. It’s not about this year, it’s not even about next year. Everyone else in the SEC had become comfortable with Tennessee because they saw us turning into a doormat under Phil. Now they see the players Lane is bringing in, and it’s clearly visible what Tennessee is capable of returning to in the near future. So everyone is a little bit nervous. Could it all go down in flames? Sure, but it’s not going to. I’m guaranteeing you that much.
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So if there are fans that can't stop tonguing Phil's balls, and they're upset about Lane
That means the fanbase is split, even if only by a little bit. And you’re right, there’s no such thing as bad publicity. But Auburn’s been doing a fine job of bringing in recruits themselves without dissing every SEC coach along the way. I wouldn’t necessarily call a program that was in the SECCG two seasons ago a program that’s been “run into the ground.”
My whole thing is that Lane Kiffin (like Gene Chizik, to a certain extent) is a completely unknown commodity. He did a great job as OC for USC, but so could my 7-year-old cousin. He did a poor job as HC of the Raiders, but so would Vince Lombardi. He could be a great coach, but IMO the evidence he’s shown so far at UT (brashness, cockiness, immaturity) leads me to believe UT may be heading for an Orgeronian Ole Miss era; that’s not necessarily a bad thing, as long as they continue to recruit well. I fear Auburn may be heading for the same fate, but I feel confident Chizik and the staff he put together will have us up in the top half of the SEC regularly in a year or two. I can’t say the same for Kiffin and his staff. He could be a very good coach, I just don’t see it.
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 29, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But those people are going to be upset no matter who replaces Phil...
So how is that Lane’s fault? Phil managed to have a losing record in two of the last four years, and we lucked into an SEC Championship appearance in a year when we lost to Cal 45-31, Florida 59-20 and Alabama 41-17. We are 1-7 the last four years against our biggest rivals, and the majority of those have been blowouts. Phil and his staff had gotten unbelievably lazy in recruiting, which, for example, is why we’re left with the thinnest offensive line in the SEC. Phil was an offensive lineman. It wasn’t going to get any better. Of course Lane is an unproven commodity, there’s no denying that, but people are trying to label him a failure for all the wrong reasons. He absolutely has us headed in the right direction where it matters most (recruiting), and I have no doubt that we’ll see a difference on the field this year. He’s done nothing whatsoever to give people the right to judge his coaching abilities at this point. Everyone wants to talk about the rest of the SEC hating him when, in reality, it’s one school. But you know what? We don’t care.
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by LukeMP1186 on Aug 29, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he took coaches from Alabama and South Carolina, so they hate him too
It’s all speculation at this point anyways. I’m speculating Kiffin will disappoint Vol fans. You’re not. We won’t have a verdict until a few years down the line. I think the most important thing to take away from this debate is that the next seven days need to hurry by.
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 29, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you in new orleans, too?
i didn’t know there was another VEBer down here
"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang
by bmorgan on Aug 29, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thursday's starter
Any word from Tony if Smoltz starts Thursday?
by ubeddie on Aug 29, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i am pretty sure he does
I swear on the radio either TLR or Moz said he was
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 29, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good test against the Brewers
I see it’s another Thursday day game so I won’t get much done at work again.
by ubeddie on Aug 29, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hate printers
I have 4 printers in front of me and I can’t get one of them to work
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 29, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And.....Derrek Lee tries to kill the umpire "on accident"
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 29, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Mets are horrible
how do we have a losing record to them?
Fuld slam — 8 – 4 Small Bears
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by gocards62 on Aug 29, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jake fox*
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Losing record?
Our record against the Mets this year is 5-4. Not great, but not a losing record either.
by cardsgirl95 on Aug 29, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tidbits per the game preview
1) No active Cardinal has faced Stammen in a Major League regular-season game.
2) The Cardinals have been held to three or fewer runs in four straight games and eight out of 11
by ubeddie on Aug 29, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Over / Under 3 runs tonight???
I’ll say under
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by gocards62 on Aug 29, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
over
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you saying 6 or 9?
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 29, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll keep it vague
as to not tempt the GOBs.
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you were right!
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by gdm426 on Aug 29, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm scared too.
/homer twiddling his thumbs on the roof as the doomsday comet is the size of a chihuahua.
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you ever harness this powar, may God have mercy on our souls
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by gdm426 on Aug 29, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
5-3 when scoring 3 or less
nice pitching boys.
by ubeddie on Aug 29, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
9-4 scrubs
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bat Flip
Please refrain from saying Albert’s was better then Tom’s.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Aug 29, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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