The Brian Moehler Diaries, or, Notes from Undermound
by DanUpBaby on Aug 28, 2009 2:00 AM EDT
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PrintI am a slow pitcher... I am a replaceable pitcher. I am a mediocre pitcher. I think there is something wrong with my slider. But I rarely know what is truly wrong with my stuff, and I can seldom say for sure whether my fastball is too fast or too slow. Some of you will probably not understand this, living where you do. But it is the way I have lived outside of St. Louis—a career borne forward on a current of spite and outside junk. If the ball is scuffed, let it stay scuffed!
I have been pitching this way for a long time now, thirteen years—I am 37. Once I was a prospect, but a bad one. It is only in St. Louis that I receive some measure of satisfaction. Only there may we finesse pitchers, lost underfoot in the sabermetricians' crystal palace, kick things over! Only there may we fight rationality, exhibit our own control over ourselves and the pitches we throw, and live according to our own pitch-to-contact will.
I am writing to you—as though it can be written down, this futile push against the barrier of 3*BB+13*HR-2*K/IP— to say that my spleen is momentarily subsided, temporarily brought low. It is only in St. Louis, against these Cardinals, that I am freed from my own insecurities.
It is like this in the world around us, the one we've so eagerly constructed for ourselves: most baseball teams, in their brutal conformity, hit far better against we finesse pitchers than they do against power pitchers, who believe themselves able to impose their own cool rationality on the chaos that burns within a man's soul. Their vengeance works unaware within the stats on the back of a baseball card. (Of course, they always say, you could pitch like that, Brian—but I say: what can be done when one knows about DIPS? I can't throw a knuckleball, and my fastball keeps me from society and ESPN. I know they are right. I cannot throw a changeup through this brick wall, and yet I cannot accept it! I must forever nibble at the margins.)
The league average OPS in these recent years tells the sad story better than I am able; while teams in the National League hit just .236/.323/.379 against power pitchers, those pitiable—and yet enviable!—creatures, they struck us finesse pitchers for a line of .281/.337/.446! There is simply no getting around BABIP, the great rational force of the baseball diamond.
Ah, but in St. Louis there is respite for the weary, for those who seek to topple their self-awareness and replace it with momentary glory. For the Cardinals have no understanding of BABIP, and here, where I am allowed free reign to push against the shackles of Voros McCracken's hideous organizing discovery, I have never lost a game. My comrades fare nearly as well; the Cardinals, in 2009, have hit just two percent better against us than they have against our enlightened rivals. Their BABIP sits at .272, far below the .300 average to which I have resigned myself.
What could it be? Is it random chance—I should only hope so, as though a part of me wishes that I be regressed forcefully and decisively back toward the mean. (Why do I take pleasure in this?) Certainly their superior 2008 performance against our kind suggests it is so. Or is it something else? Once a friend of mine pushed me toward a meeting with Dave Duncan, Privy Councillor of the Cardinals pitchers, knowing that his style and mine—always pitching toward contact, never striking out batters—meshed as well as one human's desires can mesh with another.
And I told him, in a terrible bout of sentimentality—"David, aren't you aware that one day all these pitchers will stop striking out batters entirely? Must we submit ourselves to this inevitable, planned existence, where there is no room for finesse or style or elegance?" I spoke at length about the way I wanted to pitch, the way I felt I had to. I told him all about my fear of the strikeout, about the terrible secrets of the four seam fastball and the changeup and all the pitches invented to miss the bat entirely, as though that were any way to play baseball. I was getting past myself, red-faced, and I worried that he would laugh in my face.
"Why, you—you speak as though from a book," he said. I could detect a terrible irony in his voice.
That sent a pang to my heart. Of course I should have known that he wants to believe as I wanted to believe, but I was too shaken. I left him there with Mr. Titular Councillors Reyes and Perez, for whom I am little more than a scoundrel, a non-entity, and I went to Florida, underground, where a man can live and play baseball as anonymously as an insect.
But now I see that maybe he understood me. The Cardinals, who prize finesse pitching above all else, who flout BABIP by throwing the ball directly at the bat, struggling against pitchers of their own kind! Why, it is arranged by Dave Duncan or else it is an irony piled upon ironies! ...
[The notes of this paradoxalist do not end here, however. He could not refrain from going on with them, but it seems to us that we may stop here.]
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Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 28, 2009 5:58 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
this is for spants
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Aug 28, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm glad I wasn't wearing 3-d glasses.
I might have a black eye.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
by Eckstreem on Aug 28, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Trevor Hoffman
Did the Cardinals make a waiver claim on Trevor Hoffman?
I hope so,
if only to keep Philadelphia from getting him.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
+1
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I wouldn't mind Hoffman joining the ranks
We could certainly use the RHRP depth. But I doubt the Brewers would trade him to us.
+infinty factorial
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
I want the Walrus back...
MLBTR is reporting that the Giants claimed Hoffman
Apparently the Brewers are just gonna pull him back. Looks like the Giants were just blocking the Dodgers/Rockies.
So, he didn't fall to us.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
and Olney says Hoff's not going to SF
Proud sponsor of the Official 2009 StL Cardinal theme song: Reason to Believe
I seem to remember reading this.
Isn’t it the introduction to Memoirs of a Gentleman Replacement Level Starter?
Very enjoyable read, DanUp. It has, of course, made me tremble at the notion of facing Joe Blanton in October…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
SI on the Cubs
Overall, the Cubs have played to their talent.
An old team full of right-handed power hitters will suffer slow bats, injuries and bad defense, as the Cubs have. So the question one might actually ask is why they aren’t worse than they are, rather than better.
Question — geeky serial killer Marchman mentions Leonard Koppett re: the managers’ “lineage”. That in a book, or is it just through his artciles? Sounds like an interesting read.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
^articles
Which I misspelled twice in this comment…
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I figured it was interntional since you did it twice
I was trying to figure out the hidden meaning.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
someone's trying to make me french
send help
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I hate to point this out,
but “articles” is the same as the French spelling of “articles,” at least in the grammatical usage. If it’s a newspaper article, it’s a “papier,” I believe.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
true true
I would say someone’s trying to turn me latin, but i already flunked latin.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 28, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
No, I'm calling you an intern
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
Did SI reference their spring article
and say “but then again every idiot picked the Cubs”?
This reminds me of summer reading
It’s some sort of whiny self-absorbed thing that I didn’t want to read, and hence didn’t read. But it’s supposed to be some important piece of history and literature. Blah!
Just kidding, Dan. This was awesome.
But if it was a direct reference to something, and not just a brilliant pseudo-literary invention of your own, I probably have not read that something. Ah well! The style was awesome enough that I can still appreciate it.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
based on the title (I'd never even heard of this before)
by brackenthebox on Aug 28, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Huh.
Now I kind of wish I hadn’t written that… his stuff is way too good (and way to long, I would think) for high school summer reading.
I was thinking more along the lines of The Education of Henry Adams, actually. But I guess that would be more appropriate for Joel “Matty” Piñeiro… "What could become of such a pitcher of the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, when he should wake up to find himself required to pitch the game of the twenty-first??
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
What is this "summer reading" of which you speak?
Anything I read in the summer usually had cartoons or lots of pictures in it.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 28, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually really enjoyed Notes from Underground when I had to read it for my senior year AP english class
I couldn’t tell you at all what it’s about now, but I remember thinking it was an assigned reading I actually enjoyed. (I also enjoyed the Grapes of Wrath)
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
it's actually a very close parody in tone and style
to notes from the underground.
which is a lot more geeky awesome than just using the title
Holliday: "Albert, Carp and I have been talking about it and we think we know what your problem is. You've been tipping your swings." I expect no further problems.
Yeah, I went ahead and read the first chapter. Spot on.
Again, awesome stuff DanUp
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
sorry, I was just saying I had found it based on the title
clearly a lot more similarity than just that
by brackenthebox on Aug 28, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I think my slider is diseased
Great post. Notes from the Underground has to be among the top five in terms of opening lines. May be right behind the Tale of Two Cities and Slaughter House Five. Tone and cadence of was pitch perfect.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
ouch. that san diego baserunning blunder makes not-top-10
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
however, the cubs have number 2
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 28, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
The Rockies...
Feel the same about Brad Thompson. Sucks we lost that game. My soon to be Father-in-Law flew in from England. He took his new wife and 8 year old daugther to their first game. :-( {not his first, he is from around here.} Sucks when you lose the first game watching a sport you’ve never seen before.
To soothe the sore spot of yesterday's loss,
the Washington Nationals (28.5 GB in their division) are being flown into St. Louis for a three-game weekend series. Meanwhile, the fastly fading Cubbies host the crippled Metropolitans (16.5 GB in the same division).
So, the NL East cellar-dwellars have been dispatched to the Midwest this weekend. Given their play of late, and injuries, I’m not sure which club I’d prefer to play at this point in the year. I think I’d actually prefer to take on the Mets. Nonetheless, we ought to be able to take two out of three from the Nats, even with anticipating a rough start from either Smoltz or Boggs or both.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I'd rather play the mets.
Neither team has any pitchers, some of the Mets can play defense, but the Nationals have a decent offense.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
this sounds bad but
I was wary of the Nationals until they went -1 Nyjer Morgan.
ouch
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 28, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I am not rejoicing over any player's injury, but
this news does not make me sad.
by cardsgirl95 on Aug 28, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
deadspin has finally caught up with the burning in the outfield
so, so tardy.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
hahahaha
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
by tehzachatak on Aug 28, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Bravo. Bravo.
i’m really loving this.
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
OT: according to Ichiro
wow.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
hahahahah
my god i love that guy. if he was american he might be up there with shaq in terms of quotes
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
by tehzachatak on Aug 28, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
he needs to get a better translator
some of this stuff is gold.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 28, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
nah
he actually speaks pretty damn good english. i’m pretty sure the reason you don’t hear more of it is just because he’s so reserved.
if you want your day to be made though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtImIqR5neU
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
by tehzachatak on Aug 28, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I was about to post that...
Dang. Anyway, he clearly has a grasp of the vernacular!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I had thought so too
then I heard that bizarre story in the All Star Game locker room, and became confused again.
which, of course, I’m blanking on…
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 28, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Related - when Willie Davis finished his career in Japan, he was interviewed. It went someting like this:
Willie, tell us about yourself
I am Willie Fucking Davis of the fucking major leagues. . . .
For fans of baseball in Japan – or anywhere else for that matter – book by Robert Whiteside are unmatched. Try “You Gotta Have Wa”.
Whiteside is a very reclusive guy – former GI who learned perfect Japanese, married a Japanese diplomat – rarely speaks in public, but gave baseball a true gem.
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Hm.
At first all Google was giving me was an artist/jeweler/restauranteer of the same name.
The kicker? He’s from Missouri, and he’s know for Faberge eggs.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
He's got very good english,
the translator thing is just something he does.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
That guy deserves to be in the HOF...
just for bringing the deadball era back to life.
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
Careful.
There’s a certain Venezuelan national team reject who might also qualify.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
for the life of me, i actually cant figure out who you're talking about
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
by tehzachatak on Aug 28, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah...
Pineiro fits the bill… The Venezuela thing threw me off.
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
by the way
just throwing this out there to make sure people feel like i do.. there’s absolutely no doubt this guy is a first ballot hall of famer, right?
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
by tehzachatak on Aug 28, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
i personally think
His accomplishments in Japan should also have some kind of weight on the decision
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 28, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah. the thing is
even COMPLETELY ignoring them i think he’d have a shot. considering them a LITTLE bit, and considering what he’s done for the game of baseball, breaking the barrier of japanese position players coming to the majors.. i think he is an absolutely undisputable lock.
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
by tehzachatak on Aug 28, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Slightly yeah if only because it was his only option for a time
But I don’t really care what anyone did at AAA for the HoF, and that’s pretty much what the NPB has been compared to talent wise. I understand he was great over there as well, but there’s massive caveats involved.
Not afraid to nitpick
He's probably going to get 3000 hits in the US anyway (he'll be over 2000 before the end of this season),
but even if he retired tomorrow he’d be a lock for the HOF. He’s too popular and cool.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Not disagreeing
Just saying his NPB stats shouldn’t matter very much. He’s been great in the MLB and there are extenuating circumstances why his counting stats aren’t better, leave it at that.
Not afraid to nitpick
Jeff Passan at Yahoo has a column up this morning
suggesting that Ichiro might be able to get 4000 hits.
by BTown Birds fan on Aug 28, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I once spent a semester at Rolla with a Japanese guy
Upon meeting him, I figured he was in his mid 30s.
He was actually in his mid 50s.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
He's accumulated 45.3 WAR just in the US which would put him at the unlikely to low end,
but he’s done it in such a flashy and memorable way (repeatedly leading the league in hits/avg, mysterious/offbeat style and personality) that he it seems like he’d basically be an undoubtable lock if he retired tomorrow despite the fact that he will probably play at least 5 more years above league average. This is also not counting his NPB stats, which combined with his MLB stats put him (I think) over 3000 hits with something like a 340 lifetime BA.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
horror of flame at the very reast
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Favorite player not on the Cardinals
And it’s not even close
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
now this is interesting. Junior on the Reds.
Ken Griffey Jr. says he told Dusty he was going to get traded.
CTR: Did you think Dunn was going to get traded?
KG: Yeah, I told (Baker) that too. I’ve been around this game way too long to not know what’s going on.
He also suggests that the Reds have a Cub-like problem. Except in reverse.
KG: The problem that Cincinnati has is that they compare every team to the Big Red Machine and that team will never be duplicated. There will never be a team like that again.
Warning: the interview does take several turns for the disturbing. Commenting next…
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
HFS ®
CTR: Basically, you’re having fun.
KG: Yeah, I always have fun. Our third baseman is out after getting hit in the nuts. When he comes back next week, his first at-bat, his theme music is going to be the Nutcracker Suite.
CTR: That’s just wrong.
KG: But good.
CTR: Just wrong.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 28, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh my goodness that is awesome
“That’s just wrong.”
“But good.”
“Just wrong.”
I’m happy that Griffey and Ichiro are on the same team now. Apparently they’re hilarious together. Like, they do weird things like tickle each other and then act like it’s totally normal.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
seems they pulled that article from the archive
stupid newspapers. did you know they don’t even print them on paper anymore? it’s all on the intertubes. damn kids.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 28, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
This computer thing must stop, I tell you.
Before it takes over the whole friggin world.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 28, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I've heard that they are a hoot.
Their catcher, Rob Johnson is a family friend and he lockers between the two of them. His parents say that they are both a couple of goofballs, but Griffey is the King of the pranksters in that locker room.
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
that comment is a little disturbing...
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
and Boog's stache is this week's Create-a-Caption
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Create-a-Caption-Brendan-Ryan-s-mustache-wants-?urn=mlb,185311#remaining-content
oh, boog.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
link fail
i’m on a roll. big league stew.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 28, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
btw just in case anyone wants to watch something beautiful
i woke up this morning and wanted to see this again.
http://www.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl_3_1.jsp?w_id=522804&w=2006/open/tp/archive10/101906_slnnyn_cards_last_out_tp_350.wmv&pid=mlb_tp&gid=2006/10/19/slnmlb-nynmlb-1&cid=mlb&fid=mlb_tp350&v=2
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
link fail.
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
by tehzachatak on Aug 28, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
dF:"ASDgflasdgiajsdas
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
by tehzachatak on Aug 28, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
i love watching that
it will never ever ever grow old.
Don't ping my cheese with your bandwidth.
by RosevilleRedbird on Aug 28, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
never indeed
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
last image: juan encarnacion.
now i has a little sad.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Eeees okay
I steeeel goat paid
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
that report came from a dominican newspaper and was later debunked.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Yup.
I was flat pissed. If you can’t trust what you read in the newspaper in a third-world country, what CAN you trust in this world?
I've made a huge tiny mistake.
by the red baron on Aug 28, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Mr. Titular Councillors Reyes and Perez
I love that line. But then I started loving it less when I thought about what if we had Chris Perez in there in the 8th and 9th yesterday instead of K-Mac.
Perez Watch: Consecutive Outings without an earned run…16.
Consecutive days without me giving a crap: 60
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Sorry. I will refrain from mentioning former Cardinals on this site. I was just pointing it out because I was never a huge fan of the DeRosa trade and from time to time I still pine for the services of Mr. Perez. I didn’t mean to offend you.
Hah, it's cool, I didn't mean to be a douchebag.
I just think complete turnarounds in performance are impossible to predict and that it’s very likely that Perez is only succeeding now because he isn’t in St. Louis anymore (not that this streak could have just as easily occurred in STL as CLE).
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
I agree
I am with you on turnarounds in performance being impossible to predict. And I guess we all have to appreciate that the “fresh-start” effect swings both ways: for every Holliday and Lugo, there is a Perez.
I do still wonder if Perez was traded over Motte (or others) due to our FO giving up on Perez as having the potential to be an elite reliever. I tend to think that wasn’t the reason, but that is more likely that Cleveland wanted Perez the most and we acquiesced given our deep need at 3B at the time and our seeming wealth of RH relief. I happen to wish he hadn’t made the trade, but I will still hope DeRo can contribute to a solid pennant run.
Sorta OT
I feel compelled to mention that AJ Burnett really is tipping the hell out of his pitches. He hooks his wrist in his arm action on his FB and doesn’t really on his curve. Dunno how visible it is to the batters given 12 Ks yesterday but it’s a 100% thing if they could see it. As far as I can tell via a quick look on MLB.TV he’s done it all year to some degree but it’s gotten crazy obvious lately.
Not afraid to nitpick
Bad for your elbow too.
Seems like he’s still killing it with his curve this season, just giving up more fly balls and homers on his fastball.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Hooking the wrist isn't bad for the elbow
The guys who write that are morons.
Guys who hook their wrists and have elbow problems tend to have arm action problems.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
For example, AJ Burnett's injury problems are related to his Inverted L
Not that he hooks his wrist.
The same thing goes for Barry Zito.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
Hooking your wrist in that way often leads to timing problems.
Hence, bad for your elbow. But way to go off over a semantic issue.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Hooking your wrist doesn't lead to timing problems
Inverted arm actions, like Burnett’s Inverted L, lead to timing problems.
When some people look at pictures like the ones of Burnett, they focus on the hooked wrist and ignore the big old Inverted L. The same thing goes for Aaron Crow and Barry Zito, among others.
Hooking the wrist can lead to control problems because it implies tension in the wrist, but that’s not going to cause elbow problems.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
So does anyone hook the wrist the right way?
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Yes
Most pitchers don’t hook their wrist. Instead, they keep it relatively loose.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
What about
Rick Sutcliffe? Didn’t he do some funky hook thing with his wrist? I always thought that had to hurt something.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Aug 28, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
What I'm asking is, is there a pitcher who hooks his wrist in a way like Burnett (or Wellemeyer or others)
who doesn’t make an L or W and has no timing problems?
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
we need to get him then
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
by tehzachatak on Aug 28, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I was going to say it might be hidden by his body...
…but this pic suggests otherwise.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
Are you sure he only hooks on his FB?
This looks like a CH and the hook is there.
Maybe it’s a recent thing.
It may also be that his FB is a hit-it-if-you-can pitch where no amount of tipping is going to help you.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
Didn't really see many changeups
Just that it was plainly obvious FB/CB. Just go to his MLB.com page and watch the highlights it’s cupcakes picking out FB from CB once he breaks his hands.
Not afraid to nitpick
That's the one I linked to...
My initial thought was that lefties would get a much better view if they could see it but he’s had a pretty hefty reverse platoon split so I have no idea.
Not afraid to nitpick
I didn't watch the game yesterday
But I don’t know how the Cards can’t figure out Moehler. If I recall, Moehler is still unbeaten against the Birds. I heard from my dad that KMac gave up a homer with 2 outs in the top of the 9th to Keppinger… and that must’ve been frustrating. The good news is, we still have a 9 game lead over the Cubbies, and should be able to keep it barring any setbacks.
Carp (or Waino) for NL Cy Young!
Good pitchers know how to use a hitter's ego against him
Jamie Moyer is the expert at that, and it appears Mr. Moehler has been studying up.
P.S. Charley Lau has some great things to say about how good hitters don’t let a pitcher use their ego against themselves.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
That's quite good.
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
-Wayne Malloy
by KerouacCardinal on Aug 28, 2009 12:09 PM EDT reply actions
Not sure of what to make of this (DanUp's post)
My brain is slow this morning and I have other things on my mind. Can anyone explain this to me non-metaphorically?
The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!
If the Cards faced pitchers using their own gameplan, the Cards would suck.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 28, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
ok this was really early in the morning
but I think I saw this footage of the Brewers doing their new mandatory team-building exercise.
They seemed to be… I mean, this what I thought I saw… they were holding hands in a big circle and then doing a wave.
I just remembered that I saw this, and now it seems like a coleslaw-induced dream…
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I think that coleslaw was bad
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
I swear I saw it!
I know I’m crazy but it could only be their road unis, and then they cut to Prince.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
heh, typo. home unis.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
too funny :)
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 28, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions
well done, danup. ranks with your best.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
I'm not sure if this has made its rounds here ...
but someone loves Colby…
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 28, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions
oh yes.
it’s made its rounds.
and i love her.
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
/jailbait
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
hey i cant be more than like.. 4 years older than her
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
If you're 20 and she's 16 (for example)
20 years behind bars brah
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
there are much better ways to get your picture on the internet.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
gdm doesn't appreciate you publishing his photo on VEB
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but in two years i'll be 22 and she'll be 18... and that's legit
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
Is that the Missouri state law?
I know in Alabama the rule is “16 and you’re fine, 15 gets you 20”…of course, we’re pretty far behind
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
no that's just what's acceptable according to me
it even works when you’re like 16, means the youngest girl you can date is like 15. that’s legit. and then as soon as you hit 21 anything over 18 is legit, which is how the world works (you round up if it’s an age ending in .5)
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
age of consent in Alabama in 1880: 10.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
uhhhhhh
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
Alabama in 1880 was generally a terrible place to be
Especially if you weren’t in the white aristocracy
We’ve come a long ways in 130 years, and we’re still way behind
Oh well, there’s always Mississippi!©
(copyrighted because that may actually be Alabama’s state motto)
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
FLAG'D
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
REC'D!
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's the Baron's Law for determining quality of life in a place:
the more times your state, or a city within your state, is mentioned in a civil rights protest song, the worse it is to live there.
Easy, clean, and simple.
I've made a huge tiny mistake.
by the red baron on Aug 28, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, from that link
Colorado has lowered its age of consent from 18 in 1920 to 15(!) in 2007
Delaware’s age of consent in 1880 was 7
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
i was struck by the delaware one.
in the other direction, Chile had an age of consent of 20 years old for decades, since lowered to 18.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
How could anybody possibly think 7 is a good age of consent?
Or 10 for that matter!
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
If the legislature was made up of 9 year olds
Then they probably would’ve just banned girls from the state altogether.
Although, I admit, sometimes I wish for such things. Females is crazy, I tells ya.
by mojowo11 on Aug 28, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would have been an awesome legislator at age 9
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Fridays! Everyone wear their favorite TMNT t-shirt to work on Fridays!
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of
Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.
by Cardinals645 on Aug 28, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Sandstorm is a kinda racist character
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's the thing.
It’s only racist since it involves non-white persons.
Monty Moose and Walkabout are JUST as racist, IMO.
Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.
by Cardinals645 on Aug 28, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
Pizzaface
Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.
by Cardinals645 on Aug 28, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it possible to be racist toward Canadians or Aussies?
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends on how much you want it.
If you want it bad enough, you can make it happen.
Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.
by Cardinals645 on Aug 28, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah - you can do anything you set your mind to
Now throw another shrimp on the barbie, you dirty hoser.
by BTown Birds fan on Aug 28, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Note to self:
My daughter will never live in Colorado.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I'd keep her away from Argentina and Spain as well
Age of consent in those places is 13
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
That's kind of unfair
It was 10 in a lot of places in 1880.
Hell, it was 7 in Delaware.(?!?!?!?!?!)
(all according to your link)
Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.
by Cardinals645 on Aug 28, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Crap, just saw all the other posts.
Dammit.
Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.
by Cardinals645 on Aug 28, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I think she is a Junior in High School
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm a junior in college! perfect!
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
/stalker
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i have a weird hobby
I enjoy tracking people down off the internet. Like random people that e-mail me from Craigslist. I like to see how much info I can dig up with as little as info as possible.
The results are scary.
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah man
it’s crazy how much stuff you can find out.
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
You already gave me all your info
Nothing to find out…
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Put the lotion in the basket
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
At a Memphis Redbirds game a friend once heckled a guy using a SOTL quote
“It rubs the lotion on its skin, or else it gets the hose again.”
It cracked up Chris Maloney and seemed to have the desired effect on the pitcher.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
When I was in undergrad at Auburn, our basketball team was pretty terrible
Hell, we’ve been pretty terrible for the better part of 20 years, minus a few outlying seasons. Anyways, attendance at the games was pretty dismal, and that was perfect for me and my heckling friends. Since there were so few people at the games, the opposing players and refs could actually hear our taunts. They generally did a pretty good job of ignoring us, but one time I said something (don’t remember what it was) to a guy inbounding the ball right in front of me that made him turn around and smile at me. That was pretty awesome.
Another time we played a team where their starting center was enormous. He had major man boobs, and every time he got the ball, we chanted “Bitch tits!” He had an awful game. I believe we contributed.
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
So, I went to a Cards game as a kid in the mid-90's some time
I can’t remember which year. I was sitting with my older brother and our friend who was his age. The game was against the Giants, and we were sitting near the end of the left field line. Of course, the left fielder for the Giants that day was none other than Barry Lamar Bonds.
So we eventually got up the nerve to start chanting “Bar-ry, Bar-ry, Bar-ry” not in an encouraging manner, but in that annoying way that Bart and Lisa harassed Darryl Strawberry in the softball episode of The Simpsons. This was long enough ago that Barry wasn’t the villain in the eyes of the world that he is today; furthermore, my brother and our friend were really into baseball cards and knew how awesome a player he was. So it’s not that we hated him, but we just thought it was be super awesome if Barry Bonds noticed us.
At first I didn’t think it was having any effect, and I almost gave up, but then at some point he turned around and gave the slightest of waves with his glove.
Holy crap! Barry Bonds waved at us! I thought it was the coolest thing for a while.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
My first Cards game,
hell my first MLB game, was in 1992 against the Expos, and we basically got free tickets. The stadium was empty and we moved down to the third base side near the bullpen. 3 of us sat there and harassed Mel Rojas for what amounted to about 7 innings. I believe our favorite was Roj – ASS. He never would look at us, but the bullpen coach and catcher eyed us pretty good. He dropped a ball that was being thrown back to him from the catcher, and we would not let it go.
Not my finest hour of Midwest niceness, but what do you expect from a bunch of drunk 18 yo’s?
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
At the LA-STL game in LA
When Brendan Ryan first came up to bat, some guy yelled,
“Amber Alert!”
(I assume they have those in MO)
Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.
by Cardinals645 on Aug 28, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
from the Deadspin threads
If there’s grass on it, I’d say the fire’s burning in the infield.
so. very. wrong.
1 part Douchebag, 3 part Hipster!
hahahahahahahahahahahaha love deadspin. god that's wrong
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
and by it,
I mean the Fire Burning in the Outfield (more like fire burning in my ears).
Carp (or Waino) for NL Cy Young!
Tickets for tonight
coupon code: Nation nets you Outfield Field Box (normally $44 per) for only $20.
Shut up, Fritz™.
Passed this on to a friend
Thanks for the heads up. Is it as dreary in St. Louis as it is in Chicago today?
THX
And it’s “nation” not “Nation”.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
Those with weak stomachs, don't read past the subject line
According to B-R, Moehler is 5-0 against us lifetime in 8 GS.
:-( !
Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.
and that's only because he got a ND yesterday
if the W/L stat in baseball made any sense, he’d have earned the win yesterday and he’d be at least 6-0
The last time the Cubs gained anything on us in the standings was August 3
25 days ago
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
Suck it Cubs
As my 8YO son once said.
I didn’t know whether to be proud or horrified. I settled for a bit of both.
I reprimanded him, but was smiling out of the corners of my mouth.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
hahahahah
THAT is my kinda kid.
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
I'm not a hug e fan of sporting negative slogans on clothing about other teams, but
I saw a guy today that was wearing an anti-Cubs shirt. It said: “The Chicago Cubs: Getting guys from St. Louis laid for over 100 years!”
I had to shake his hand. It takes balls to wear a shirt like that in the financial district in San Francisco as there are a lot of Cubs fans that live out here. Has anybody else seen any good “anti-opponent” shirts?
NorCal CARDS FAN
I have..
the “I’d rather my sister be a prostitute than a Cubs fan” t shirt, which i’ve worn to Wrigley on several occasions.
I saw this shirt at a game once:
It had a picture of the front of Wrigley Field, and it said “World’s Largest Gay Bar.”
I mean, I don’t even really find that funny, but the guy had cahones.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
yeah
i really just don’t find that one funny.
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
Exactly
I just can’t believe that the guy actually wore it, to a game. In nice seats too! It was the Redbird Club I think. He didn’t seem to get any complaints or anything, much less asked to change shirts or leave the game.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
My Favorite that I own is
Completely
Useless
By
September
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 28, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I've seen the ol' "Zambrano Mows My Lawn" shirt...
…but after the game today, I’d have to think it’s Marmol.
My nephew got sent home with a note
from his teacher in first grade for saying “Cubs suck” to his classmates.
Shut up, Fritz™.
Sent Home!?
Should of gotten a gold star
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 28, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
My sister wanted to ask the teacher if she was a Cubs fan
but let it go instead.
My nephew also disn;t believe me that the Cubs haven’t won a world series in nearly a hundred years when he was in kindergarten, cause that’s back when there were dinosaurs, not baseball.
Shut up, Fritz™.
He got the rest of the day off.
Sounds OK to me.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Aug 28, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
that is bullshit
would they rather he lie?
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
awesome
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 28, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
John Mozeliak Mastercard commercial
Ryan Franklin as your closer during 2010? $2.75 million (plus incentives)
Ryan Franklin as your closer during 2011? $3.75 million (plus incentives)
Not having TLR call you on your cellphone every damn day during the offseason begging you to sign some capital-C closer for seven figures? Priceless
There are some things money can’t buy, for everything else, there are incentive laden contracts.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Aug 28, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions
why
would you want to throw more money at a guy that sucks so much?
I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.
+1
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
at least he's reliably sucky
Holliday: "Albert, Carp and I have been talking about it and we think we know what your problem is. You've been tipping your swings." I expect no further problems.
i dunno about reliable
cause we had to rely on someone else to blow the game yesterday
a real shitty closer would have been in the game doing his job of blowing it instead of having some second year no name doing his job for him
Brick Top from "Snatch"
Then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs. You got to starve the pigs for a few days, then the sight of a chopped-up body will look like curry to a pisshead. You gotta shave the heads of your victims, and pull the teeth out for the sake of the piggies’ digestion. You could do this afterwards, of course, but you don’t want to go sievin’ through pig shit, now do you? They will go through bone like butter. You need at least sixteen pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm. They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in about eight minutes. That means that a single pig can consume two pounds of uncooked flesh every minute. Hence the expression, “as greedy as a pig”.
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
it's always a good idea to befriend a pig farmer
youneverknow when you’’ll need them
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
yu godda caravan?
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Marmol on to close...
it ain’t over by a long shot…
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
At the game tonight with my camera
I hope to get some video to settle the great debate over exactly what the Smotzl™ is; whether it’s a screwball, a splitter, or both.
Wish me luck.
Well, I'm from Texas and my mama taught me to not piss all over myself.
Sorry, I only have a finite amount of luck to bestow
And I choose to grant it to the team. Hope you understand.
by cloistermaximus on Aug 28, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Tonights Lineup via FSN Tweet
Lugo 2B
Ryan SS
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Ludwick RF
DeRosa 3B
Molina C
Rasmus CF
Smoltz P
....my quick smells like french toast...
doubtful
mets fans usually only feel vindicated when someone gets fired
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
Then they'll probably feel vindicated pretty soon.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Sucks for the Rays to have to sell so low on Kaz, but he looks like a lefthanded Daniel Cabrera now.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
possibly dumb question
what happened to him?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i guess being a former Met
Finally caught up to him
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 28, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Declining velocity and control.
Injured? Who knows?
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Fuck, their blowing La Russa at MLB Network now
The best thing is that they cited him ripping on Ryan for making an error.
Smoltz.
They said that Brendan Ryan made an error one game
And Tony and Oqeundo were reprimanding him for it. Then they said that was a good thing.
Smoltz.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 28, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
we've been carrying brendan's dead weight on defense for too long.
it’s time someone took him to task for it.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
seriously
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
So you are saying that him and Oqeundo would be better coaches
If they didn’t reprimand him and let the error slide?
yes
that is what he is saying. 100%
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
re: Dave Kramer, Boog's HS coach
he made it clear that Brendan is a smart kid, but it is all in how you approach him to get him to understand what you want. Kramer commented that Ryan had a really strict and intense college coach, but said that Ryan needed that type of structure. He thinks that TLR is at no loss for intensity and thinks that is good for Ryan. Brendan played 2nd base in HS, and Kramer said that he never had a 2nd baseman play for him like Brendan did. He did say that Brendan hasn’t really changed much from HS, besides the shaved head and getting a little skinnier.
He said, "Yep, he still wears his socks up around his nose." I guess he’s not a fan of the socks. "
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Yes, because Ryan is an amazing defender and always tries his hardest
Should Tony rip on Pujols for striking out?
Smoltz.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 28, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
First, Tony has likened Ryan’s Defense to Ozzie Smith. So Tony knows he is a great defender.
Second, Ryan’s biggest issue since he has came up as a rookie is playing under control His body get’s a head of itself. He ranges into other peoples plays and bumps into people. Another issue for Ryan has been concentration. If either of these two factored into the error then yes, Tony and Oquiendo should reprimand him for it.
As far as Pujols goes, Depends. If Tony feels it was a lack of Concentration, Effort, or Preparation then he should correct him. However; some players need more correction than others. Some players are able to correct themselves. This has nothing to do with skill level. More to do with discipline and self-awareness
Suggesting a coach would be better by not coaching makes about as much since as a baseball net.
And yet I don't buy it.
Will you admit that Ryan getting chewed out on a bad luck play is bullshit in the same way that Pujols striking out on a good pitch is?
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
I didn't see the play in question or the chewing out.
But yes, If Ryan’s error was just a physical error and not caused because of a mental lapse than he doesn’t need to be chewed out for it no more than Albert striking out.
However; being that Tony is okay with errors due to aggressiveness and understands that physicals errors will happen I do not believe that would be the case here.
"Tony has likened Ryan’s Defense to Ozzie Smith"
ugh, remind me again how the TLR-Ozzie thing ended?
;)
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
I kinda of love MLBN because I like it better than the WWL
but then, other times, I hate it.
Like when Jon Heyman said Don Mattingly should be in the Hall of Fame because it’s a Hall of FAME, and Mattingly is famous. (In fairness it might have been Verducci, but I’m pretty sure here.)
Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.
by Cardinals645 on Aug 28, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
that's a great comment
On Chris Carpenter in the 2009 Cy Young Race: "He's got one," Wainwright said. "He doesn't need another one."
It wouldn't have bothered me so much
if not for all the other shenanigans, like putting down Blyleven’s and Raines’s merits.
And saying that McGwire should not be allowed in due to his steroid use, but that Sosa should be in since there’s no evidence he used steroids.
Again, not sure which of these are from Heyman and which are from Verducci, but come ON!
Pretty much FML any time Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball or Joe Thurston runs the bases.
by Cardinals645 on Aug 28, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody said anything about these guys being any good!
I think “Wild Thing” Ricky Vaughn should be in! That guy is so famous! He’s timeless!
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
MLN does some interesting stuff.
I forget who the spaz ex-Met is on there.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Benny Agbayani?
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they've invented the lighter?
updated why so 6 fredbird
hopefully non-baseball types will realize what it means…
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Do you like me?
Yes [ ]
No [ ]
Maybe [ ]
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you love me?
Do you wanna be my friend? ‘Cause if you do…
Well that don’t be afraid to take me by the hand, if you want to…
I think this is how love goes, check yes or no…(guitar)
/George Strait’d
V, b.
I am uncomfortable with this thread.
:p
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
is there a box to check for that?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Do you like me?
Yes [ ]
No [ ]
Maybe [ ]
This could be interpreted as harrassment [ ]
I may have gotten much different results if I had included that box in elementary school
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 28, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Very nicely done
but…um…is there room for one more K? As you say, there’s some room for misinterpretation. Wouldn’t want any morans thinking Fredbird is a bigot. (Hey, some of his best friends are blackbirds!!)
by BTown Birds fan on Aug 28, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe after the game
someone remind me
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Skippeh and co. tempting the GOBs!!
They felt like they couldn’t lose again all year, huh. Not so funny now, huh, huh!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
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