Breaking the Wandy
by DanUpBaby on Aug 25, 2009 7:00 AM EDT
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PrintI have exciting news to pass along to the rest of the members of the Skip Schumaker UZR Watchers Club: for the first time this year, his UZR/150 is below (above?) -10! You remember the story—it's crawled down from a high, in early May, of around 30. Now: -9.9. I'm loath to throw that half a season he spent as history's greatest monster down the drain entirely, but Schumaker spending half a season as a competent major league second baseman is an impressive turn of events. Now to find some way to attribute this to Dave Duncan...
While we're on the topic of the minor leagues—by which I mean we were on the topic last night—Daniel Descalso, the position's current heir apparent, hit his second Memphis home run last night, part of a back-to-back-to-back-to-back with Troy Glaus, Allen Craig, and Mark Hamilton. He's not exactly lighting the place up—his .655 OPS there has lowered his season-to-date numbers to .301/.374/.467—but he is a prospect; what's he doing having started all of five games in the last two weeks?
I love Jarrett Hoffpauir, but if the Cardinals don't think he's better than Joe Thurston right now he's the guy who should be losing at-bats in the Glaus/Craig/Freese roster crunch; I don't think it's particularly important to gauge Descalso's ability to pinch hit in the middle of his big breakout season.
Good news: the Cardinals play tonight! Bad news: it's that guy. Again.
I think I'd be less annoyed if any other Astros starter had taken the last two years to turn into Adam Wainwright, because something about Wandy in particular drives me nuts.
He Beats Albert Pujols. This, of course, has something to do with it. Defeating the Team Champion, both consistently (as these matchups go) and decisively makes his sudden emergence as a borderline ace even more frustrating—there's no outlet for the frustration that wells up when watching a guy who was once one step removed from LOOGYdom deal against all batters left and right. If he goes seven innings of one run ball and the one run is Albert Pujols putting out a few pixels on the out-of-town scoreboard, maybe watching the ball a little more than he usuallyd oes—well, I know it's about The Team and giving 110% etc., but I think I'd be personally satisfied by that outcome. That's all I can say.
The good news is that Matt Holliday has hit .385/.429/1.077 against him in 14 highly predictive plate appearances. When he got to St. Louis, the first thing he said, after wolfing down his first piece of customary Post-Transaction Family Recipe Apple Pie, was: "Albert, Carp and I have been talking about it and we think we know what your problem is. You've been tipping your swings." I expect no further problems.
He Pitches like a LOOGY. If you take his stats and give him, I don't know, 54 games and 37 innings pitched or something, the Wandy Rodriguez Story makes more sense in my head. He throws a fastball in the low, low, low nineties and a sweeping breaking ball; I can see, say, Trever Miller striking out a batter an inning like that, but a guy who's expected to pitch to more than one batter just should not be doing this. Even his form, compact and awkward, makes me think of a relief pitcher. In short: I just don't know how he does it. And I wish he wouldn't.
He Used to Be So Average. Not just he was an average pitcher once—that's fine by me. But he came up in a way that's more consistent with, say, Mitchell Boggs than it is the pitcher he's become. He was never a dominant minor leaguer; at his best he was worse than he is now, and he combined that with being uncomfortably old for his level.
His whole thing—and maybe this is what does it to me—is an affront to my flattering belief in my own ability to scout players. I watched him suck for two years. I saw his minor league numbers. I have a blog, for goodness' sake. Doesn't he know who I am?
There's no reason for that guy, especially after he leads off the old big league career with 270 innings of replacement level ball, to turn into this guy.That guy was once most notable for being named Wandy.
He's named Wandy. Which brings me to my final point.
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Well done
Even though we are 1-1 against him this year I feel like he has owned the redbirds. I feel like I’d be happy if we can scrape 2 off the astros tonight.
But a 10-run Tuesday would be fine with me also.
Guys Who Own Albert, All-Time [spits!]
(more than 15 ABs; out of 82 pitchers, 10.36% of total pitchers)
avg (.250 and lower)
1. Jason Schmidt – 17
2. Wandy Rodríguez – 25
3. Ron Villone – 15
4. Brandon Webb – 23
5. Andy Pettitte – 23
6. A.J. Burnett – 18
7. Matt Clement – 22
8. Sean Marshall – 20
9. Jason Marquis – 20
10. Jim Brower – 16
obp (less than .300)
1. Ron Villone
2. Jim Brower
3. A.J. Burnett
4. Matt Kinney – 19
5. Kirk Rueter – 15
6. Andy Pettitte
7. Wandy Rodríguez
8. Matt Clement
9. Brandon Claussen – 15
ops (less than .700)
1. Ron Villone
2. Wandy Rodríguez
3. Jason Schmidt
4. Andy Pettitte
5. Jim Brower
6. Brandon Webb
7. Billy Wagner – 21
8. Brandon Claussen
9. Jason Marquis
10. Carlos Mármol – 19
Well, this explains Ron Villone……..
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
BCB says their front office
is the smallest in the Majors, other than the Marlins.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Hmmmm.
I wonder if that’s because nobody would put their career on the line for Jim Hendry?
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Couple of interesting
potential WS matchups in there.
10 ABs or more (153 pitchers).
vs Albert all-time (# ABs)
AVG under .250
1. José Valverde – 10
2. Ryan Madson – 10
3. Jason Bere – 13
4. Al Leiter – 11
5. Darrell May – 10
6. Chris Sampson – 10
7. Jonathan Broxton – 10
8. Jason Schmidt – 17
9. Wandy Rodríguez – 25
10. Ron Villone – 15
11. Kevin Millwood – 14
12. Pedro Martínez – 13
13. Chad Billingsley – 12
14. Giovanni Carrara – 12
15. Luis Vizcaíno – 11
16. Dave Bush – 11
17. Hideo Nomo – 10
18. Jamie Moyer – 10
19. Jerome Williams – 14
20. Brandon Webb – 23
21. Andy Pettitte – 23
22. A.J. Burnett – 18
23. Matt Clement – 22
24. Cole Hamels – 13 (.231)
OBP under .300
1. Chris Sampson – 10
2. Jason Bere – 13
3. Kevin Millwood – 14
4. José Valverde – 10
5. Ryan Madson – 10
6. Al Leiter – 11
7. Darrell May – 10
8. Ron Villone – 15
9. Pedro Martínez -13
10. Jerome Williams – 14
11. Cole Hamels – 13
12. Giovanni Carrara – 12
13. Jonathan Broxton – 10
14. Jim Brower – 16
15. Carlos Hernandez – 12
16. A.J. Burnett – 18
17. Matt Kinney – 19
18. Kirk Rueter – 15
19. Jamie Moyer – 10
20. Andy Pettitte – 23
21. Shane Reynolds – 14
22. Wandy Rodríguez – 25
23. Matt Clement – 22
24. Brandon Claussen – 15 (.294)
OPS under .700
1. José Valverde – 10
2. Ryan Madson – 10
3. Chris Sampson – 10
4. Jason Bere – 13
5. Ron Villone – 15
6. Al Leiter – 11
7. Jonathan Broxton – 10
8. Darrell May – 10
9. Wandy Rodríguez – 25
10. Jason Schmidt – 17
11. Jamie Moyer – 10
12. Luis Vizcaíno – 11
13. Dave Bush – 11
14. Andy Pettitte – 23
15. Pedro Martínez – 13
16. Hideo Nomo – 10
17. Jim Brower – 16
18. Brandon Webb – 23
19. Kevin Millwood – 14
20. Scott Williamson – 10
21. Billy Wagner – 21
22. Noah Lowry – 11
23. Chad Billingsley – 12
24. Brandon Claussen – 15
25. Giovanni Carrara – 12
26. Jason Marquis – 20
27. Carlos Mármol – 19
28. Matt Wise – 10 (.664)
Can I just say … phuck.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 25, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
FREE JARRETT HOFFPAUIR
his Southern accent is more awesome.
http://multimedia.foxsports.com/m/video/24262703/comeback-cards.htm
or do we only call up the ones who can’t sell it. nooooooooooo…!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
"Luckily I got some pitches to lay off [of]."
That might be my favorite thing I’ve ever heard a baseball player say. There’s a guy who knows what he’s good at.
Skip Schumake: he'll never play for the Puerto Rican team
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
^r
what the hey, keyboard.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I like it as an unintentional nickname
Only I’d spell it “Shoemake”
by Ray Lankford on Aug 25, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
And pronounce it like Shiitake?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 25, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Laughed out loud
Reminds me of a game a few years ago, when Al was being weirder than usual. He was putting an “ing” at the end of each person’s name. At first I thought he was just messing around, but he kept doing it. Then I thought I was missing an inside joke. To this day, it keeps me awake at night. “What the hell was he doing?!” Seriously though, “Scott Rolings,” “Chris Duncings” WTF?
by Ray Lankford on Aug 25, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
"mushroom"?
He is one of the smallest guys on the team, now. Shortest, but not the lightest.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 25, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
and deceptively slow. . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
yeah
for a hussley, on-basey, lead-offy, ecksteiny-sorta guy, I’ve always been amazed how slo-o-o-o-w Schu is. Sooner disagrees, FWIW.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 25, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
If he doesn't,
you’re doing it wrong.
I've made a huge tiny mistake.
by the red baron on Aug 25, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
nowhere near.
maybe 4th, at a push. I think a healthy Mets/Cubs is better though.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 25, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
what do you need?
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
stuck in recovery mode
Was watching a game on MLB At Bat and it blinked off and I can’t get it back. Just sits there showing me the usb cable and itunes logo. I tried Apple’s steps to restore it and I always get error 28 as it starts to restore. Tried it on a couple pcs (both Vista) that I had it registered to with itunes. Frustrating… I cn’t find anything on error 28 and what it means.
Time for a visit to the Apple Store, me thinks
I had this problem with mine and had to take it in after calling customer support.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
I just wish
that someone else could come out with devices that do the same things theirs do with a simple interface and a menu/organizational system that makes intuitive sense.
Take, for instance, my wife’s new Palm Pre, or as Palm like to refer to it, the “iPhone killer”. But it’s not. The iPhone (and iPod Touch) has a main screen that shows little icons of the apps that you put on it, and you can scroll to different screens and organize your apps in different ways (like the ones you use the most can be on the front screen, followed by everything else in alphabetical or logical order). In other words, it works the way YOU want it to work. The Pre has everything set up the way that Palm’s “engineers” think that you would want it, that’s as simple as I can put it. The problem is that, while I’m a mechanically inclined individual, I don’t think like an engineer and my interface with my phone isn’t always from a completely logical perspective (not illogical, but mixing in emotional and rational judgement), and this is me, the guy who buys shit the minute it comes out. My wife gets even more frustrated with this stuff when she can’t find the place to upload a photo via text message, or calls a contact instead of texting that person, which is what she was trying to do.
Simply put, the interfaces on Apple’s devices make intuitive sense, while the rest of the industry seems to have a lot of trouble getting out of their own way to do this stuff.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Not sure if this is your flavor of nerd
but it’s a great resource if you ever decide to switch
Mac OS X For Unix Geeks
by brackenthebox on Aug 25, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
That makes zero sense!
Your Apple’s market. half the geeks I know (mostly linux geeks though) sit and stare at their iphone half the day.
It’s eerily similar to the Mac experience back in college. Whole rooms of people sitting and starting at the Mac SE or whatever it was. Head leaning on left hand. Right hand click click clicking.
You're just jealous
I know I am
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 25, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
iphone >> blackberry
I had a pearl, curve and messed around with a girl I dated’s storm.
If you do corporate email then BB > iPhone.
My iPhone has almost completely replaced my laptop and it also has a Amazon Kindle app in addition to streaming MLB gameday.
You can pry my iphone out of my cold dead hands.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
addendum
I HATE hate HATE how you can’t use mp3’s easily as ringtones or how ATT doesn’t have ringbacks.
I constantly rip shows/movies to my iphone and carry my iPhone to TV adapter with me…“hey baby, wanna watch some south park?”
No MMS and tethering…SUCKS…especially mms for obvious reasons.
I’m too big of a vag to jailbreak.
I HATE hipsters. I do not do the external attribulations thing. I don’t write novels on my bright ass Mac at starbucks in the CWE with my dark rim glasses for all to see.
The camera sucks but the video recording is awesome for a phone.
I once got drunk and thought an iPod was an iPhone and had a 3 and a 1/2 conversation. Turns out I really don’t know Jay-z.
The MLB blackberry app is better than the iPhone MLB app. The MLB iphone app is horrendous.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
I disagree
Apple’s marking strategy is to appeal to everyone. I know people that have little to no “geek cred” at all and they have and iPhone and two iPods from previous generations. Who doesn’t have an iPod or didn’t used to have an iPod nowadays? This would be like saying Google is the geek search engine — geeks use it, but so does everyone else. In fact, a higher percentage of geeks vs. regular guys probably use other devices because they aren’t so proprietary.
You don’t appeal to just geeks and have the top cell phone, mp3 player, and laptop in terms of units sold.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
you summed up how I feel
The reason I hate Apple is that they are so proprietary. I prefer to stick to stuff that is open source or at least lets me tinker with it.
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
but Apple didn’t get to where it was by allowing you to tinker. The more it allows you to tinker, the more complicated it is to use their device. One thing that you have to admit is that they have the best user interfaces for the regular joe.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
yeah i can admit that
For people that are not computer literate I see no problem with Apple products. I just would never personally use any of their products.
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I am a geek who avoids Apple
I have avoided iPods for ever because they have a proprietary connector and I would have to buy “iPod” compatabile stuff. My biggest problem is that iPod stuff is now all over the place and finding a good MP3 accessory that isn’t iPod only is damn near impossible. I have a WinMobile phone and can’t wait to get something new but I wanted to avoid both RIM and Apple if possible, but Sprint gives me the choice of WinMobile, BlackBerry or Palm and WM was the “best” of those for me at the time. If they don’t get another OS soon I may go BB next time but Apple or Android is where I would rather be from a phone perspective, and even that is sad since I would rather avoid the iPhone if possible but it is just head and toes above the competion right now.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
except you have to use AT&T
Especially when you are used to Sprints Data plan
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I love Sprint’s plans, I have 3 phones with unlimited data, text, GPS for like <$150 or so. Two are BB Curves and one os my Mogul.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
What I don't get
is the whole “withdrawing from society” thing. Maybe it’s cause I’m old. The friends of mine spend hours converting movies to work on hte iphone, staring at their iphone, listening to ipods. It’s odd.
I just have no desire to spend $400 to $600 on a phone, and I like watching and interacting with people, I guess.
I don't think that the iPhone is the problem.
I think it’s cellphones in general. Web-enabled phones have all but ruined any sort of manners people have. Countless of my friends will be fiddling away on their web-enabled phone while we are out to eat, just the two of us. It’s unbelievable to me because it’s almost subconscious and leaves me wondering if I’m that boring.
As for watching movies and the like, I don’t think it’s all that different from staying in and watching TV. Most of my friends watch movies and TV shows on their iProducts when traveling in a car or on a plane or when at home. To me, that’s not really withdrawing from society any more than watching TV or DVDs is withdrawing from society.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I don't think just cellphones are the problem
it all started going wrong with Alexander Graham Bell.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 25, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nikola Tesla should have built that death ray and kicked some asses that needed kicking.
The world would be a better place if he did.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Aug 25, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well
The only reason they have the top selling phone is that there’s 2 models. Their market share of smart phones is blasted away by Blackberries, they’re just spread over like 12 models.
And which laptop is the highest in units sold?? Even if that is the case, their market share is still dwarfed on the whole compared to PCs at large.
Not afraid to nitpick
Yes and no
Google is a bad comparison, but whatever.
I’m not sure how the geek appeal happened. maybe when the new Mac OS’s came out? The guys I’m talking about have Mac notebook that they would save from a fire before their kid, they’ve bought every iphone when it came out, and they’ve had at least 3 to 5 ipods.
Now you’ve made me think about when it started. It wasn’t happening back in the 90s; these people were fixated on linux. Now they all worship Jobs. Hmm.
i don't know anyone that went to linux to mac's
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I use both
Apple > Linux
The Mac OS is just better. I has more software (like the entire Adobe suite for instance) and still runs all geek tools (Apache, RoR, mysql, etc.) VMWare or Parallels for running all other OSes as well. I use Linux on server, Mac on laptop.
by creativereason on Aug 25, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It depends on what you need.
I also know a Linux/Mac nerd.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I owned an Apple IIe
that I bought in 1984. It died in 1991. I have never bought another thing from Apple. Not that I didn’t like the IIe…it was my first computer, and performed very well for all the years that I had it. I bought a hard drive for it that was as big as a breadbox, cost about $200, and had all of 128 KB on it!!!! It was great! But even so, no iPod for me.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 25, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
BlackBerrys
can be customized like that. I’m sure Apple got the idea from RIM.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
That is what Apple does well
Find old technology and reinvent it as if they just made it
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
That may be the least Apple-like quality I can think of
In other words, it works the way YOU want it to work
Apple is very good at making interfaces that work for many people, but they are completely inflexible compared to open platforms (e.g. linux or android) or even the less dictatorial, but still proprietary ones (windows, blackberry, etc). If Apple hasn’t explicitly thought about how you want to use your device/computer, you’re probably out of luck.
FWIW, I say this as a mostly happy owner of an iphone and a macbook pro.
by brackenthebox on Aug 25, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
This is absolutely true.
In the same way that Windows narrowed the focus from previous operating systems, Apple narrows it further. Sort of acts ahead of the user to stop them from destroying their stuff, simplifies it so that any idiot can use it, and a smart person who doesn’t care to get too involved can do what they need without any bullshit.
When you scratch the surface too deeply, however, they are extremely inflexible and limit the user tons of ways.
On balance I really like my two apples (my computer and my shuffle), but I feel like some of the SQL and stuff I’d like to do would be easier on another machine.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
If it made intuitive sense
you wouldn’t be re-arranging it, and saying that the ability to re-arrange it, is great.
I totally disagree
their menus make intuitive sense, i.e. “if I want to move this icon here, I just drag it there and it stays there.”, instead of “I have to find the settings menu that lets me re-order everything so that I can find the preset menu setting that I want from a list of choices”. How is that intuitive, unless you’ve always worked with computers and know that all the adjustments you make have to be done in the settings menu? It’s easy for you and me, but it’s impossible for my dad, who calls me all the time trying to figure out how his Blackberry works, or how to do certain things on it. He can pick up my iTouch and be surfing the web and checking the weather in 5 minutes but he’s had his Blackberry for a year and can’t to those things immediately because it isn’t intuitive to him when he looks at it.
The Palm Pre has more processing power than my laptop did back in 2002, and it’s in the palm of my hand. Why is it that everything has to be proprietary so that I can’t do what I want to do with it? I can change my iPhone just about any way I want, but I can only use Apple products on it and put music on it through iTunes. Yes, that sucks, but at least I can put music on it and figure out how to fucking play it, unlike my Treo which makes doing those things next to impossible because of the interfaces involved. The iPod is easy to use, and iTunes is easy to use, and both do things I want to do simply and without a lot of questions and FAQs.
I’ve played around with Android phones — they’re a pain in the ass, unless you like programming, in which case they’re awesome because you can do what you want to it and install the stuff you really like. But that doesn’t mean they are “easy to use”.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Android has upside
Android over the years will be getting better and better. As more phones start to use the OS. I am waiting for Sprint to finally get an Android phone
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Me too, Flim.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I'll believe it when I see it...
Android might be the best phone OS on the planet and its still going to have a tough time beating Apple. Similarly, Firefox and Chrome are the best browsers out there in terms of speed, customization, and functionality, yet if you add the usage of both of them together, they still don’t add up to the number of users who use IE, and the new version of that doesn’t even measure up to the other two browsers.
I like my Treo Pro and hate Windows Mobile, so I’d like to see an Android OS for the next Treo Pro. But if it’s going to cause me problems with sync, email setup, and so on, I’ll just keep what I have and carry both that and my Touch with me for music.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Windows Mobile is highly hackable
True nerds swap out the the OS with a custom one
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I know
I’ve done it…and then I end up having problems with email (I have three different business accounts and personal mail that I sync to it) and syncing my calendar and contacts which are on Exchange.
Palm’s new OS is pretty sweet for that stuff, it goes out and grabs all the info from your various contact lists, facebook pages, even VEB logins, and puts them together under one contact. Like, if you had your name tied to your profile on here and VEB had a contacts list, the OS would literally file you under your name for phone number, email, screen name, facebook page, myspace page, VEB, your other SBNation and your own blog if you have one, ALL under one contact listing in the phone. It’s pretty damn sweet, I have to admit.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
More BlackBerry
Curves have sold this year than iPhones.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
That's because they're available on multiple networks
and they’ve been given away for free. More people have switched from Blackberry to iPhone than any other user, and they pay to do it by switching phone companies AND buying the phone. This would not happen the other way around, trust me.
The only reason I don’t have an iPhone is because if fucking hate AT&T’s service. I’ve been much happier with Sprint.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
that is a huge reason for me also
Sprint has the best data service of any networks
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I know
three people who have gotten iPhones and then gotten rid of them for BlackBerry Bolds, which they paid for. I’m not a fan of the Bold b/c RIM and AT&T have ignored some pretty obnoxious software bugs. My 8330 Curve is less buggy and way older. Of course, it’s on Sprint.
I’ve played around with the iPhone. I will never buy it until it’s not soley an AT&T phone and it has a physical keyboard. I wouldn’t mind having a Touch. Is the next gen getting a mic?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Check out the HTC Touch Pro
Best phone on the Sprint network
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I've heard they
have crashing issues.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
never heard that
I have been waiting for them to come down in price before I get one
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
When my last Mogul crashed
I hoped they would replace it with a Touch Pro but instead I got a refurbished Mogul that had keyboard issues, now I am using my wife’s Mogul that she traded for a Curve. When I am eligble for an upgrade next year I am hoping either the Storm or an Android phone are on the Sprint network. I heard the Storm is coming but Sprint wants RIM to fix the problems wiht it first.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
I want the Tour.
But I have to wait until April.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
My buddy that works for Sprint
just got the tour and he loves it, even more than his Treo Pro, which is the phone that I have now.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
I can't wait.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
IE market share is just inertia
As many people are still using ie6 as ie7 (and neither of them are close to firefox based on this).
Also, firefox relies on people installing new software; android is going to come installed on their device. That coupled with the fact that people upgrade their phones much more frequently than their computers makes a switch much easier.
by brackenthebox on Aug 25, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
FF may take over more if Mozilla gets their way in Europe
Right now Win7 will include a “ballot” screen where the user selects their browser. Mozilla wants that screen gone and for MS to bring back their scrapped version with no browser pre installed by them. This would give either the user the choice or would force an OEM to install it. The biggest problem I see with no default browser is how do you download FF without getting to it? Unless you have it on a CD you will need some option to get a browser built into Windows.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
You don't think people are capable of a command
FTP pull from a server?
You’re lack of faith in humanity is disheartening.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
I hope that's a joke....
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Are you just using the incorrect "you're/your" on purpose now?
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 25, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
um
Windows explorer can access the internet by itself, without the browser. So that solves the problem right there.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
I thought it redirected all requests to IE now
Or atleast used the IE process in the background. Anytime I use windows explorer to hit a web resource it loads my default browser, I haven’t tried without a browswer.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
Not on XP
I don’t know how Vista handles it because I’m not stupid enough to load Vista on any of my machines.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Is either FF or Chrome better than IE8?
Or would it just be an exercise in redundancy?
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 25, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I like both better
But prefer Chrome now
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
If you don't mind me picking both your brains,
what is better about them? Just so I can make an informed decision.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 25, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Firefox has great add ons
Chrome seems to use less Ram and CPU power
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanx Flim
I will take a look at them.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 25, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I use FF for almost everything
Except for dual browsing gameday and VEB gamethreads, which I use Iron for
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 25, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
i got chrome earlier this year and I really like it.
more intuitive and straightforward than FF IMO.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 25, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure if it's true
but the js engine seems much faster than anything I’ve used. That may just be the chrome marketing working for me, but the AJAX heavy sites seem much smoother for me
by brackenthebox on Aug 25, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought chrome had some sort of information gathering thing that was freaking people out.
Is that true or not?
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Iron doesn't
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 25, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRWare_Iron
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 25, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
people freaked out about that
but it’s unclear if it’s different from any other browser, and if it is, there’s always Iron
by brackenthebox on Aug 25, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that a haxxored version of chrome or something?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
yup
chrome with the tracking stripped out:
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008/09/24/iron-chrome-for-privacy-fanatics/
by brackenthebox on Aug 25, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Does it affect performance in any way?
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
I haven't noticed
Seems to run as well as Chrome
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 25, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright, well, next time you see me
I’ll no longer be my African-animal influenced self but will be instead some sort of metal.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
It also supposedly has some ad blocking
But I haven’t really noticed it
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 25, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I realize this is going to tag me as a techno-deficient being,
but do I need to strip the IE8 out or will it matter?
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 25, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
And even if you wanted to it’s supposedly quite hard to get rid of.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Preemptive TWSS.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Thanx
I figured that would be the answer but needed to ask it.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 25, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Removing IE
from a Vista machine is one of the most miserable experiences one can go through. Not to bad on XP, though.
I've made a huge tiny mistake.
by the red baron on Aug 25, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Chrome
is really nice if you want simple, fast, and low CPU pull. It’s built on an old version of Apple’s WebKit software, so it basically looks and feels like an old Mac window. It’s very streamlined and easy.
I use Chrome for a lot of work stuff, when I’m primarily working with simple pages of text and things like that. For my personal browsing, I still use Opera. It’s got a ton of extra features, heavily customizable, and personally, I just like the way it works. Always have, probably always will.
Oh, and one more thing: I’m not sure if the Google folks have fixed it (they probably have), but the early versions of Chrome had a really serious security risk that had carried over from the version of WebKit it was based on. I would be very careful using it for any sort of sensitive data application. (Online banking and the like.)
I've made a huge tiny mistake.
by the red baron on Aug 25, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
They came out with a patch for that
in the current version that came out 3 months ago or so.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
They all ripped off Xerox's research anyway
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I used to have an Atari with a GUI interface before
Windows 3.1 and Apple
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Coolness
My dad used to work in the computer industry a long time ago and we still have some sweet old stuff in the basement. We have a huge tape drive that is the size of a small fridge. You open this clear plastic door, basically, and put in a disk the size of a pizza.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Well, their basement, not mine
I’m pretty sure the basement of my apartment building has the body of Jimmy Hoffa in it. Or at least all the stuff that Geraldo Rivera thought he had found in Al Capones “secret vault”
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
When I was a kid my dad
had one of those huge-assed HP mainframes for his business’s recordkeeping. I thought it was the greatest thing. In retrospect, you really couldn’t do a damn thing with it. lol
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 25, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
You must be as old as me
if not older.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 25, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
And then Windows
ripped off the Mac OS and made it for PC’s.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
you can't hold the home and power buttons for 30 seconds
and then try and restore again. if that fails, you’re pretty much stuck taking it to apple
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Aug 25, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Skippy was tipping his glove at the beginning of the season
the ball knew where it was going to be so it was able to avoid it.
by Evilfrog on Aug 25, 2009 8:31 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
We've got a better team now
and I think we’ll be able to break the can’t-hit-any-lefties spell tonight. We should be able to – it’s Wandy Rodriguez, not CC Sabathia.
Carp for NL Cy Young!
Yes,
the DeRosa/Lugo/Holliday triad makes us more formidible versus southpaws at three positions, which is pretty significant. I suppose that tonight will be the new-look Cards’ greatest test, our old nemesis Wandy.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Which is a very good thing since
the Phillies picked up Cliff Lee. We may get large doses of him or Clayton Kershaw in the postseason.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
i'm a lot more worried about Cliff Lee than I am about Clayton Kershaw.
DeRosa: "I guess I was just an appetizer."
by tehzachatak on Aug 25, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Lee absolutely terrifies me, to the tune of Kenny Rogers ’06. But Kershaw is scary, too.
by RedbirdAvenger on Aug 25, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
woe.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 25, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree...
The pre-Holliday/DeRosa offense had a number of pathetic performances, but none more so than that Sunday night in Cleveland against Lee. It was embarrassing.
V, b.
Don't remind me
Literally the least competitive game all season. It was over in the 2nd inning when the Cardinals decided to chase whatever poopburger pitches Lee was tossing up there.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Poopburger.
That made me lol.
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
on the positive side...
at least everyone in the lineup’s seen him once now?
errrrrr….
by RedbirdAvenger on Aug 25, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
We *need* to be aggressive...
and swing at the first pitch we see. Or something like that.
That game was so frustrating to watch. Our PAs were absolutely attrocious. If I remember correctly, DeRosa whacked a HR off Carp early on that essentially sealed the game for the Tribe.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Wait...
Are you saying you’d rather have Derosa/Lugo/Holliday playing against lefties than Thursty/Schumaker/Dunc? NO WAY.
Seriously, the idea of playing Thursty/Schumaker/Dunc on the field at the same time against LHP is an offensive and defensive abomination.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 25, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately,
Ankiel still plays versus lefties. Ugh.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Probably right
And it’s all okay b/c he hits them better to whatever level a .600 something OPS and inferior defense is “better.” Whatever Tony, whatever man…
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
baseball cube splits
AP vs Sabathia: .111/.111/.111 (9ABs)
AP vs Rodriguez: .167/.348/.167 (18 ABs)
Holliday vs Sabathia: .333/.333/.333 (3ABs)
Holliday vs Rodriguez: .273/.333/.818 (11ABs)
DeRosa vs Sabathia: .222/.222/.222 (9ABs)
DeRosa vs Rodriguez: .286/.412/.429 (14ABs)
Lugo vs Sabathia: .222/.300/.444 (18 ABs)
Lugo vs Rodriguez: 0 ABs
Ludwick vs Sabathia: .333/.333/.333 (3ABs)
Ludwick vs Rodriguez: .231/.333/.308 (13 ABs)
Molina vs Sabathia: .000/.000/.000 (6 ABs)
Molina vs Rodriguez: .289/.289/.289 (21ABs)
I was going to make some statement about us hitting better lefties better than not so good lefties but I guess we don’t hit either of them. Also it looks like the Cube doesn’t have stats up for 09 yet so some of these may not be up to date. Also I didn’t run any lefties or Boog since I didn’t think they would have much of an impact
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
Boog impacts the earth.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 25, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
well
Boog is .200/.200/.200 in 10 ABs vs Wandy
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
i have it on good authority
his splits against the earth are not that good.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 25, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe it explains the socks
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I think Boog
kissed the earth the other day with that awesome diving catch. Boog for president.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
Thank you, DanUp,
for articulating my feelings about WANDY. He has really bothered me for the last couple of seasons and you have nicely laid out on paper (pixels?) the reasons why.
Does Wandy have grit?
A little guy who can befuddle the best hitters. I’d just have to tip my cap to him. Having said that, let’s get him tonight.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
Lineup prediction.....
Lugo 2B
Ryan SS
AP 1B
Holliday LF
Luddy RF
DeRosa 3B
Molina C
Ankiel CF
Waino P
Matt Holliday. Nuff said.
I've got a fever...
…and the only prescription is more Ankiel. Ironic that Waino is the vaunted “second leadoff man” in this lineup.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
YOU NEED TO
swap ryan with ankiel, and then move ryan to the 9 spot and move up waino to 8 it is TLR ya know
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
ugh
Ankiel hitting in front of Albert vs a lefty. No thankyou.
In fact, anyone with a <.350 OBP hitting in front of Albert, ever. No thankyou.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 25, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
you gotta sit AP
i’m calling it first!
Holliday: "Albert, Carp and I have been talking about it and we think we know what your problem is. You've been tipping your swings." I expect no further problems.
Am I the only one not on the Allen Craig bandwagon?
Move over. Guess I need to start cheering for prospects.
There's *always* room on the Allen Craig bandwagon.
Welcome aboard.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 25, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
agreed.
welcome.
....my quick smells like french toast...
by mstreeter06 on Aug 25, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Craig homerun
I made the Memphis game in Round Rock last night, and was again treated to history. ( I got to see Many Para’s perfect game here ) . The four homers were really cool, but Craig’s landed in the upper deck in left field, and was by far the longest of the four. It was a shot!! On the other hand, his bases clearing single was a blooper over short that Round Rock kicked around the entire park. Descalso also made a great play going to his left at second. Glaus appears to be very bored with the minor league experience, but he can throw to first base. He did not even move on two balls hit down the line.
by Remember Kenny B on Aug 25, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Disengage!
You’re not going to convince him. It’s going to take a home run in September (or whenever) coupled with a quinessential Tony quote like “He really earned some points with that at bat.” That would change things, but until then it is pointless.
by Merry CRasmus on Aug 25, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why does he get a free pass to make statements like that though.
Just because someone is beligerent enough to ward everyone else off? That’s not right and I think it’s a legitimate question.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
I'm not even necessarily trying to change his opinion in this case
but I do want to know what went into its formulation.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
cause we know from experience that its not worth the effort
not feeding the troll and all that. he doesnt put any research or thought into it. all gut all the time w/ a sprinkle of TLR regurgitation
I don't care to know
I guess that is all I’m saying. There are people here that are contrarians quite a bit, but manage to do it in a way that keeps good dialogue flowing. All for that. I don’t want it all to be a bunch of groupthink here, and I don’t think anyone else does either.
If you really do want to know his formulation, then I guess it is wrong of me to interfere with that. I think you know better than anybody it’s going to end up being fruitless though. I am pretty sure everyone is able to understand he is pretty closely wed to whatever he believes TLR’s opinion to be, and compartmentalize it appropriately. If he finds out he was wrong about TLR’s opinion, or that TLR changed his opinion, then he will change his own. That’s my brief summation of his formulation. Everything else is window dressing.
by Merry CRasmus on Aug 25, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Then why did you not question the guy that started the topic?
Why did he get a “free pass?”
Matt Holliday. Nuff said.
Yes
My opinion about his defense comes from a friend that says he should never play 3B in the majors. I don’t think his bat will play all that well, that is MY opinion from seeing him.
Matt Holliday. Nuff said.
shocking
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 25, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm more forgiving than most,
but this is getting old.
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
It's been going on since he signed up
He’s a contrarian under every situation, everyone gets it, no one has to respond, it’s worthless. Let him make uneducated comments in peace.
Not afraid to nitpick
He just said he's not on the Allen Craig bandwagon...
what’s the big deal? How can a question about whether someone
For example, I was never on the Jess Todd bandwagon. Did I have a “good” reason? Not really – I just watched him pitch, didn’t think his stuff was all that great, and assessed that he had the upside of a middling middle reliever in the bigs.
Let’s all save the enmity for when people make comments that are false, contradictory, or stupid. If he’s not on the Craig bandwagon, so be it, he can join the Cards FO on the sideline.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 25, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, this has never happened before and in no way indicates a pattern of behavior.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
SSS
How many posts do you need before we trust the statistics?
Or maybe we just trust the mods; they have access to a lot more information than we do.
by brackenthebox on Aug 25, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
my gut tells me that his presence as a poster
brings up the PORB (posting over replacement blogger) score for us all……
he just bleeds intangibles….
and hell, he just is the model of consistency
by FunkeeC on Aug 25, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He gets the full
5 Morgans for consistency. A HOFer!
by MdRedbirdFreak on Aug 25, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because it's constant
VEB seems to think _______________________ (in this case, Craig should get a shot) so he doesn’t. No one here has that great of an idea about Craig, but at least they’ve looked at the stats or seen him or something. I’d pretty much guarantee Sooner has done neither, yet he has an opinion on the matter. Like pretty much everything else he debates people on. Or rather makes a dumb statement, people call him out, then he plays semantics and changes his whole statement to begin with.
Not afraid to nitpick
In fact, the argument doesn't even require his presence to occur.
Like so.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
That's what pisses me off most.
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
That's what she said.
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 25, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And then she laughed.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 25, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love the differing opinions.
It’s just he says stuff and then walks away. Like, I’m not on the Craig bandwagon or whatever, and then he just leaves. He comes back a few hours later (typically, not on this particular thread) and proceeds to argue the living hell out of everyone who commented back on it. At least, if you have an argument to make, support your points with evidence. I just get tired of the one-liners.
If he’s not on the Allen Craig bandwagon, FINE! I don’t mind that. At all. What I do mind is the sniping that he causes. Most of the “Chupe mantequilla de mi culo” moments on VEB involve him in some way, with a few notable exceptions. That means to me that he is a large part of the problem. This comment isn’t really that bad at all, it’s just the sniping. Grrr.
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
you guys aren't gonna believe me till he hits 10 million comments
Most amount of stir, least amount of words.
One of these days he will type “no” and you will eat your babies trying to entertain.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
hehe.
Yeah, you’re right. He has this magical quality about him that elicits responses. =(
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
i'm tipping my comments!
You guys are amateurs. There’s hundreds of people online who pull this. The boards that keep some kind of control ignore it, and they do so without prejudice or delay.
There are no faces online. Alas, there are no pies of midwest niceness. You have to respond to activity, and activity alone. If you guys keep saying “he keeps doing this!” … let me tell you a secret.
He’s going to keep doing this.
And that goes for every member in the whole board.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I laughed
One of these days he will type "no" and you will eat your babies trying to entertain.
My 13-year-old daughter would say this is when LOLz. I don’t agree with that. Anyway I found this funny. As long as I don’t end up eating my 6 year-old.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
How fucking stupid.....
If you feel that way, attack the guy that made the first post. All I did was let him know that he wasn’t the only one. That is it. Had I wanted to debate it with you or somebody else, I’d have went more in depth.
My. God.
Matt Holliday. Nuff said.
Alright.
I apologize for “attacking you.” Sorry.
However, let’s go back to the original post.
Am I the only one not on the Allen Craig bandwagon? Move over. Guess I need to start cheering for prospects.
What most of us interpreted this to mean was that the poster had not previously been on the bandwagon, but was now getting on, as evidenced by the first response. So, posting a simple “I’m not,” appeared to everyone as being contrarian.
So, if you thought he was saying he wasn’t on the bandwagon then I’m sorry. Try reading more carefully next time or something.
Also, I am sincerely apologizing if you feel I in any way attacked your character. It’s just frustrating that you seem to fire these little quips all the time. /walks away
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
Oh.....
And it isn’t my comment that causes the sniping, as seen by the fact that another poster actually started this topic today. The sniping is caused b/c there are a handful of posters that like nothing more than to engage me. Period. My original post in this thread doesn’t break any board rules, wasn’t rude, or anything. The other poster asked a question, I said he wasn’t alone. YOU and a few others started the sniping. THAT is the problem.
Matt Holliday. Nuff said.
I think we have a different
definition of the word snipe and how it relates to forums.
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
I was going to mention
You as a guy that often plays the role of contrarian, but one that defends your point of view with some independent thought. I think you often raise some real good points that are getting missed, and on occasion adjust some people’s thinking.
Not to suggest that is all you do or anything, but when you challenge the widely held notions I get the sense you know what your own thoughts are and are sharing them honestly. There’s a a big distinction right there. Occasionally I’ve been the odd duck here too.
I do agree with you that it is no big deal that he doesn’t think much of Allen Craig, but we’ve seen how this devolves again and again. Every couple days or so.
by Merry CRasmus on Aug 25, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Wandy and Waino
Do have something very much in common, a monster curveball. I don’t remember Waino being straight up dominant in the minors. I remember him being good but nothing amazing. You mention the same thing about Wandy. Maybe a great curveball is like a good wine. It takes a few years to develop. So by the time time Curveball is truly dominant they are already out of the minors.
throwing a good curveball will get you looked at...
locating a good curveball will get you worshipped
Holliday: "Albert, Carp and I have been talking about it and we think we know what your problem is. You've been tipping your swings." I expect no further problems.
Adam
has always said his problems in the minors were purely mental, basically that he never trusted his stuff the way he did starting in 06 after talking to de-facto pitching coach Chris Carpenter.
Maybe Wandy talked to Carp.
Shut up, Fritz™.
carp would have made him carry his luggage
Holliday: "Albert, Carp and I have been talking about it and we think we know what your problem is. You've been tipping your swings." I expect no further problems.
No, no, no.
Dave Duncan discovered that Wagonmaker was tipping his pitches in the minors and immediately corrected the problem, allowing Wainwright to step in and dominate as closer. Or something like that…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Pitch values
Wandy and Wainwright and 2 and 1, respectively, in pitch value (wFB) on their fastball. Wainwright leads by a whisper thin margin of one-tenth of a run.
- A.D.A.M.: 17.9
- Rodriguez: 17.8
You also make a good point about their respective minor league records. They were both far from bad, but they didn’t do anything really that would suggest they were a few seasons from upper-echelon type results.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
GAH!
Yeah I did. -1, me.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
The ATL would not have
included Wagonmaker if they didn’t have concerns. And Cox and Mazzone are pretty good at grooming pitchers. I totally agree that there is an mental aspect of the game that is hard to quantify, i.e. control as a separate factor.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
In theory though...
…you could say that about the Cardinals WRT The Mysterious Unnamed Diamondback.
In 2004 it looked like the Bravos were probably going to lose Sheffield to free agency, so they needed outfield help. They may have felt they didn’t need Wainwright as much as they needed an OF bat and JD Drew was their guy. This is all wild speculation of course, but I think the point still stands. It may not be a negative appraisal of Wainwright as much as they saw a need somewhere else.
On a related note, I find it interesting that Drew had a monster year in 2004. The dude hit 31 bombs with a .436 OBP. Not too shabby.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
It’s hard to know from an outside perspective what all went into ATL’s decision making.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
Smoltz
maybe i’m behind on this since i haven’t looked at veb in a couple days, but good lord, are you SEEING this pitch-tipping nonsense on the rotoworld scroll? This has to be a joke right? like maybe a big "dave duncan ironically impersonates “dave duncan,” graying the boundaries between baseball and performance art.
rotoworld agrees with the opinion of the board from what i can tell
they seem pretty skeptical that pitch tipping had anything to do with the improved results (as opposed to the padres)
by brackenthebox on Aug 25, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
So dave duncan is into Dada?
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Ceci n'est pas un pitch
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Aug 25, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
This graph is my hero.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Why so 6?
Holliday: "Albert, Carp and I have been talking about it and we think we know what your problem is. You've been tipping your swings." I expect no further problems.
by slash2049 on Aug 25, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
j'aime magritte
bien.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 25, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCv35CuKWE4
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by Felonius_Monk on Aug 25, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
That was trippy
Very cool though.
Magritte is not a hack, which is an important quality for modern painters to have. He manages to be very “meta” without it seeming stupid.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
they also have a
Completely Useless By September ordinance.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
There's a website for that now.
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
I like clicking the counter and making it go up.
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
This year
it seems they are Completely Useless BEFORE September. ;)
by cardsgirl95 on Aug 25, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
this makes me smile :)
....my quick smells like french toast...
by mstreeter06 on Aug 25, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
which doesn’t make any sense to me, because most people don’t have to get up and work on Saturday or Sunday, so why exactly are they going to bed at 9 PM?
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
It's to deal with parking around Wrigleyville
as I’ve been told.
The non-baseball businesses and residents don’t want the traffic on those nights.
Run Vince run! There's a tarp chasing you! Run! It's right behind you!
Again,
that’s really stupid. Most of the businesses around there are restaurants and bars — wouldn’t you want 40,000 people coming into your neighborhood to eat and drink? I can understand it from a residential point of view I guess, but then why allow them to play night games at all? I would think that the problems would be larger on weeknights than on weekends.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Agree completely
Just the reasoning I’ve been told by friends who live in Wrigleyville. They, for 2, want weekend night games.
Run Vince run! There's a tarp chasing you! Run! It's right behind you!
Yeah...
If I’m a downtown wrigleyville bus. I want 4:00 game times on Friday and Saturday.
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
by cardzfanbub on Aug 25, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not about businesses
People want to be able to park wtihin a mile of their house/condo/apartment when they come home.
On game days ,they can’t.
Parking in that whole area is annoying.
Which I totally understand
but then why is it more of a problem on weekends than on weekdays? I mean, they would HAVE to leave on a weekday to go to work right? So if the game is at 6 or 7 that means people are getting there around 5 and causing the same issues.
I guess I just don’t understand Chicago and probably never will. AFAIC it’s a great place to visit and a horrible place to live.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Schu's glove
I am sure he has improved, but am I alone in thinking that the vast improvement in UZR/150 is connected to the “small sample size” disclaimer that has become mandatory when discussing ANYTHING in May? To my eye he wasn’t an absolute disaster even early on, which is to say I felt he was surpassing my personal expectations from game one.
Again, not saying he isn’t getting better but I am not convinced he was really all that bad to begin with. Much to my surprise.
yeah I think I agree with that.
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by Felonius_Monk on Aug 25, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
me neither
it was pretty much what you’d expect to happen in that given situation, on the optimistic side
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 25, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting numbers here:
Per Fangraphs:
As of this morning, over the last 30 days, the Cardinals have the best starting pitching (per FIP) in the big leagues, and overall have the third best pitching staff in all of baseball. Our relievers over that period rate right in the middle of the pack (14th overall), which is what you would expect with three pitching well (Miller, Franklin, Hawksworth), one so-so (McClellan), and three pitching not so well (Thompson, Reyes, Motte).
Now, here’s whats interesting to me: All of us think that our offense has been winning us more games since the Lugo and Holliday acquisitions (which was also around the time DeRosa got back in the lineup). But it hasn’t been markedly better than it was in July, even with Holliday’s ridiculous numbers over the last month, only about .10 points in wOBA, while the rest of the league has made a huge jump over that same period. The Cubs and D-Backs have been hitting about as well as we have the last month, and we’ve picked up 7 games on the Cubs over that time. An interesting side-note on the offense: Our team WPA is the best in the NL over that time, as is our Clutch rating. Perhaps we’re winning more games with timely hitting in the late innings because our pitching is keeping us in enough games so that our offense has a chance?
Regardless, I think this is a positive thing when talking about the postseason. The Dodgers don’t scare me near as much as they did back in June, but the Phillies are beginning to look like a juggarnaut if they can ever get everyone hitting at the same time. Ibanez and Werth have cooled off while Howard has heated up, Rollins has been below average all year, and Utley is simply the best player in the NL not named Albert Pujols. They have the best overall pitching in the NL since the trade deadline, and if they’d just end the Brad Lidge experiment and let Madson close games their bullpen would be a lot better off. No other team really matches up with our pitching staff besides them (they can roll out three quality starters and have a better fourth option than we do).
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
who has that graph of offense vs defense?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 25, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
UmpBump has the Cardinals WAR pie chart, and features the offense vs pitching in it.
http://umpbump.com/press/2009/08/23/cardinals-war-pie/
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
Colby Rasmus #5 on the pie chart
depending on how much you like defensive metrics.
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did someone say pie?
"Ludwick, I could kiss you on the nuts!" - the red baron 7-29-09
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Hanley Ramirez is not pleased with your assumptions
Man, with this outfield, need to get rid of that Rasmus, no Ankiel, wait no, Rasmus wait...To hell with Ankiel FREE KOBE RAMSIS
Why?
They’re 8 games back and 9 back in the loss column. They’re all but cooked unless Philly just decides to suck for the whole month of September. They are not the 2008 Mets, that’s for sure.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
I think he meant
about the best player outside Pujols part, but I could be wrong.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
Agree about the Phillies
But I think you could also say that about the Cards. I don’t think Pujols has really been quite on top of his game offensively the past month. If he starts really raking, and Holliday keeps up his pace (or even 75% of this pace), combined with our rotation, which, in the playoffs, I think is the single most scary rotation in all of baseball (with the Giants a close second…they don’t have a 3 guy the level of Pineiro)…aren’t we pretty much the definition of the team no one wants to play in a playoff series?
who is the phillies 3 guy these days?
Happ? Statistically it’s Blanton, I suppose…
by RedbirdAvenger on Aug 25, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Statistically
It would be Lee, Happ, Blanton because Hamels has really, really sucked this year.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
While I'm not a huge proponent of us beating the Phils, I think we
really match up well with them. Waino and Carp can get lefties out, and our bullpen should be pretty stout against lefties.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
I had Mike and Mike or First Take on in the background while I was doing homework this morning
and they were trying to say Blanton is the number 2, Happ is number 3, and Pedro is number 4. I laughed, and then I secretly wished that the Phillies thought this too.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Aug 25, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
This is why it surprises me that
ESPN still has the Dodgers above the Cardinals on their power rankings. I know I am biased but at this point in time the Cards and Phils are the teams to be in the NL and will probably have the best two records when it is all said and done. The Dodgers may even end up wild cards behind the Rockies the way they are playing right now.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
See I follow the ESPN Baseball Today podcasts
And they love the Cardinals. They have had them pretty much top 5 all season and currently have the Cardinals #2 behind the Yankee’s
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
This week's ESPN power rankings
Yanks
Angels
Phillies
Dodgers
Red Sox
Cardinals
Rangers
Rockies
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
yeah I get that
:), I was saying they are completely off from the ones on ESPN.com which are the BBTN ones.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
seems that way :)
I just use the web mostly and find the powerrankings mostly funny each week.
FoxSports has one I more agree with, Yanks, Angels, Phills, Cards, Dodgers as the top 5.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
The thing that annoys me about their rankings this week
is that the headline proclaims that the Cardinals are surging even though Fox Sports had them ranked four last week as well.
by Cardfanintherock on Aug 25, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
On the other hand, Buster Olney wouldn't stop gushing about the Rockies in his espn.com chat yesterday...
He thinks they’re the best team in the NL. I respectfully disagree.
V, b.
you know they dropped us this week too... i didn't really understand the rationale behind it at all
Holliday: "Albert, Carp and I have been talking about it and we think we know what your problem is. You've been tipping your swings." I expect no further problems.
yeah, what a matchup that would be
Hamels has been pretty beatable this year (and still, as of late) and Joe Blanton just doesn’t scare me, though I do remember him dominating us earlier this year. But in a Carp/Waino/Pineiro vs. Hamels/Lee/Happ (or Blanton) 3-game stretch, I think Carp wins, Lee wins, and Happ/Pineiro is a push…
by RedbirdAvenger on Aug 25, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
But slightly tweak that
To
Carp vs Lee
Waino vs Hamels
Pineiro vs Happ
I will take the Cardinals in all 3
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
And I don't even think Hamels
has been their 3 guy, statswise…I think Blanton’s probably had a better year. Now, at the top, I think Lee and Happ are actually just about a push with Carp/Waino (or Lincecum/Cain).
Of course, if they actually throw Hamels in the playoffs, so much the better.
You are over estimating Happ by a large margin
No Waino or Cain
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
really?
check out his splits from the the last few months…. pretty sick.
by RedbirdAvenger on Aug 25, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I refused a fantasy trade for Happ for just that reason
Though his fantasy stats refuse to come back down to earth. So he looks awesome!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Maybe...
His ERA+ is over 160 right now…higher than Waino’s, actually. Now, granted, that includes Waino’s mediocre first month, and I do think Waino’s better…but still, Happ’s been excellent. Probably NL ROY, in my opinion.
The Phils definitely have a lot of mediocre starters without much on the high end.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
on the other hand, that lee trade probably is the best transaction of the season,
all due respect to matt holliday.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Definitely.
It takes them from hoping their starting pitching can hold out (a la the ’06 Cards) to a solid chance to defend their title.
I agree with that
They kept their top three ‘spects and got a legitimately awesome pitcher back, AND said pitcher has a pretty team-friendly contract. Great, great pickup. Their GM (Amaro IIRC?) deserves a lot of credit for not panicking and pulling the trigger on one of JP Ricciardi’s insane Roy Halladay requests.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
/Julio Lugo death stare
It's official. Cardinals third basemen are jinxed.
by YesWeOquendo on Aug 25, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
i think we have the better 3....
but for some reason Blanton does seem to dominate us…he’s not very over powering but he must be fairly deceptive on his delivery to the plate…
Corner OFers
In July, Ludwick was hot. Then, we got Holliday and he has been setting the NL on fire as Ludwick has cooled off a bit. So, I guess it isn’t surprising that our starting pitching is what is carrying us. We’ve had a few monster offensive games and watching this lineup is less frustrating than the Joe Thurston At Third lineup, but I don’t think that the overall results are so much better than before so as to sing the offense’s praises. The credit lies with the two-headed monster of Carp and Wagonmaker.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I don't see that as surprising
Carp and Wainwright have been slapping people around, and Pineiro is right behind them.
I do think there are fewer days when we just get shut down by some nobody.
I don't think it's surprising
nor do I think anyone would be surprised by the data. But I see a lot of people here thinking that it’s because our offense has been so much better than it was before Lugo and Holliday, but it hasn’t been a whole lot better over that span, the pitching has been better while everyone else’s pitching has been falling off.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Some of us believed Shu could become an average (or better) 2b-man
Then again, some of us believed Kip Wells could be a suppanesque starter.
The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!
Ed Sanchez
no longer on Spingfield Roster. Interwebs error? Moved up to Memphis? Big Club?
Bueller? Bueller?
his player page still says
Springfield but he isn’t on Springfield or Memphis’s roster
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
where's Fredbird?
has anyone seen the van?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 25, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Post season eligibility question
I know the deadline is midnight on August 31st, but IIRC the playoff roster construciton rules changed in the last few years. Is the post season eligibility basis now a team’s 40 man roster instead of the 25 + DL list? If so, would it behoove the Cards to call up a youngster or two this week?
There are two open spots on the 40 man roster. Boggs can take another ten day trip to Memphis after Saturday’s start. Motte could even take a test drive down in AAA for Memphis’ pennant run.
To be eligible for the postseason
players have to be on the 25 man roster prior to August 31st. The only exception is if a player on the 25 man roster is placed on the 60 day disabled list. He can then be replaced by another player.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
25 plus 15 and 60 DL
The rule changed in 07 to include players on the DL as of August 31 per this email extract from a Red Sox FO
each team’s initial pool of eligible players is the 25 players on its active roster at midnight on 8/31 plus any players on the 15-day DL, 60-day DL, suspended list, bereavement list, etc.
This means Lohse, Glaus and Welly are eligible for the post season. I thought it changed again in 08 but can’t find anything on mlb.com except refernces to rule 40(a)
Anybody see the Giants/Rockies highlights from last night?
Holy mother.
by RedbirdAvenger on Aug 25, 2009 12:09 PM EDT reply actions
*is intrigued*
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
Whoa.
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
let me be the first to say...
if Jason Marquis somehow beats us in the playoffs, I may jump off a bridge.
by RedbirdAvenger on Aug 25, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
see above. sadface.
He is in the exclusive club of Owning Albert.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
FYP
He is in the exclusive club of Owning People Albert hasn’t eliminated yet
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 25, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
what a great game! thank goodness for extra innings!
....my quick smells like french toast...
by mstreeter06 on Aug 25, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
You know why Houston isn't making a run?
’cause Colorado is that team now.
I did
Looked like a pretty wild finish. 14 innings w/ minimal scoring followed by a run-outburst in the last inning. Wild stuff. That Rockies team owes Clint Hurdle an apology or something.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Important omission
Wandy is an extremely handsome man. We must never forget.
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
by effin fisk on Aug 25, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Redbird Rite of Passage
In his daily must-read 10@10, Goold discusses the Cards identifying pitching tipping on the part of new acquisitions:
It has become a rite of passage for a new Cardinal pitcher: The Cleansing of the Tips. There are a handful of pitchers who have joined the Cardinals in recent seasons and after having some success — or, in a few cases, even before they have had their success — admit that they discovered, with the help of pitching coach Dave Duncan, manager Tony La Russa and Cardinals’ teammates, that they were … drum roll please … tipping pitches. John Smoltz is just the latest.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
That's really the problem, isn't it?
If it’s as easy as fixing a tell as to what pitch Wellemeyer is throwing, then why has Wellemeyer been awful this year under Duncan’s tutelage?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
It's probably not that easy, of course
And it’s probably just all mind games that LaDunc and the boys are playing with the opposing hitters. And I, for one, am all for anything that gets hitters thinking while the pitch is being thrown…preferably thoughts along the lines of, “Perhaps I should have been thinking less, and swung at that belt-high fastball down the middle.”
wellemeyer's tip is a big sign around his neck that says
“all my pitches are crap.”
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
"I could tell he was gonna throw a meatball...
…. ’cause he was on the mound."
It's a sign alright...
“Going out of business”
by olddomination on Aug 25, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
three things could have happened for smoltz to improve
- nothing: Smoltz did nothing different this outing verus his last outing. He just had batter results due to better luck or worse batters.
- Fixed tipping/mechanical issue: Duncan and crew found ether a tip or something in his delivery, fixed it, and now everything is hunky dorry.
- Changed gameplan: Dave Duncan looked at what he was throwing and where, and what results he was getting with those pitchs. Yadi then called a different game then what Smoltz would have had with Boston. Getting better results.
Of all these I think 1 or 3 is the most likely scenario. Duncan is an approch guy so the idea of him fixing someone like Smoltz is laughable.
Of all these I think 2 is the best to tell the press. If you tell them you changed his approach opposing teams are going to be breaking down his pitch type/ location more. If you tell them that you fixed a tip then maybe they spend more time trying to figure out what the tip was and what is now different.
What ever they did, I don’t see why they should tell us.
how about "healing process continued"?
he’s still recovering from surgery. he had a 17 or so day break from pitching. i have read he abandoned the splitter entirely in bahstahn because it was so ineffective. maybe he just needed more rest to get his arm to a point where he could throw some pitches.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
I'll be very interested to look at Smoltzy next year...
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
this is the theory i subscribe to
i really love smoltzie on 17 days rest every time
Holliday: "Albert, Carp and I have been talking about it and we think we know what your problem is. You've been tipping your swings." I expect no further problems.
I'll take Option 4:
Threw better pitches.
I watched him make several starts with the Sawx this season, and he in no way looked like the guy we saw on the mound Sunday. It wasn’t the gameplan, it wasn’t nothing, and the pitch tipping I’m very skeptical of. Not to the point I would call bullshit on it, but skeptical nonetheless. But his breaking stuff on Sunday was completely different from what he was tossing up there in Fenway earlier in the year.
I've made a huge tiny mistake.
by the red baron on Aug 25, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Everything that works out is because I, DD, am awesome
Anything that doesn’t is because the pitcher I worked with is a no-talent assclown hack of a human being who hates authority, America, and pie.
I think that’s the logic or something, maybe less hostile….
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair it was true about Wells and Marquis. Especially the assclown part.
But the logic is pretty mindblowing- you just can’t know why TLR’s decisionmaking disagrees with objective measures, but there’s gotta be a good reason! He’s TLR!!!!1
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Similar cases both
Great stuff and lots of potential…none of it ever tapped b/c neither had any ability to make good pitches with that good stuff. Wells simply couldn’t control his stuff and walked everyone, Marquis’s command was awful and he left a ton of slop up.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Awkward moment
I am at the Library working and this dude behind me is going full blown Air Guitar. This is a grown man in his 40’s. He is jamming out on his ipod and has been air guitaring for over a minute now
hey man...
how long would it take to get a VEB CheBird t-shirt?
(this is probably in your post about it)
Well I just ordered a ton's of shirts
Just waiting to get them. If they are already made or have the T-shirts already than I can ship them out fast.
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i think you should join him. just walk up and start air guitaring next to him.
wait for him to get freaked out.
oh, and don’t get shot.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
No, no.
He needs a rhythm section. Start air drumming.
Yes, I may have actually done this before. Why do you ask?
How do you do this...
when he’s listening to his ipod?
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
I think he was wondering how he was supposed to keep rhythm when he couldn't hear the song.
Start air drumming randomly and see if he says anything. If he gives you a dirty look just explain to him that you’re sorry the beat is off, but you weren’t sure what song he was on.
by Cardfanintherock on Aug 25, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Explain that your air-monitor is messed up because you spilled imaginary franklins on it.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Aug 25, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rockouts
I’ll tell you what, I’m 39 and I have been known to have a rockout from time to time. You know that commercial with the bald Asian-looking fellow rocking out in his car to “The Point of Know Return?” Yeah, that’s me sometimes.
And you know what? I’m okay with it!
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I like to get my rocking on while I am down on the farm with a bird running loose.
"Ludwick, I could kiss you on the nuts!" - the red baron 7-29-09
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
I love that commercial
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Slap some bass
man
/Reggae
/sounds like a leprechaun
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
Liked that movie a lot more than I thought I would
Guess I was getting a little overloaded with those dudes, but I dug it.
This guy was cracking up earlier reading
Mad Magazine…. I think the movie “Big” has come true
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Billy Wagner soap opera continues!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
He signed with the Vikings?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Aug 25, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
don't get ahead of the ball
he has to un-retire first
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
and then retired.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Well played
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I had a dream last night that Hawksworth will get shelled in his next appearance
just thought I’d put that out there
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 25, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions
gaw?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
not that we will need him to pitch anytime soon heh. stupid dream
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 25, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Stab
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 25, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm annoying everyone today
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 25, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
John found his
I just saw that the founder of Papa John’s found his 1971 Camaro so I guess this is tied to that.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
http://jalopnik.com/5344770/papa-johns-to-give-away-free-pizza-to-camaro-owners?skyline=true&s=i
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 25, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish they were giving free pizza to people who drive Saturns.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Free pizza to people "living" off of graduate stipends would do wonders for me
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 25, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but you have to sit through a seminar
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 25, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like the Red Sox are getting Wagner from the Mets after all
No word on the details yet…I guess this means that the Red Sox agreed not to offer Wagner arbitration?
weird. the move makes sense on its own but not for a club that just shed smoltz
and paid his salary. smoltz clearly would have been a reasonable addition to the bullpen. even with his unattractive ERA, smoltz was a better bet than somebody who hasn’t thrown a ML pitch since – what? 16 months ago?
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Smoltz has some serious bonus
35K a game can add up when he is a reliever plus 500K bonus at end of the season
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
wagner has a $2M buyout, and I think the Sawx will be on the hook for $2M more this year.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
you're right about the $1M bonus -- but still, the sawx have to pay wagner $3m total.
even with the $500K bonus and assuming Smoltz pitches 30 games in relief you’re still talking $1.5m. I’d rather pay $1.5M for whatever Smoltz brings you in relief than $3M for whatever wagner does.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
I thought Wagner killed the trade
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
They were talking about it on BBTN
and I guess Papeldouche is not happy about it either. Ain’t that a crying f-ing shame.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 25, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
he has really gone out of his way
To prove he is the biggest douche bag in baseball
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it any coincidence that the two biggest D-bags in baseball
have both bitched about how their teams have been run this year.
I think not.
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 25, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a problem he's had since he first got into the majors.
Not sure there’s any chance he’s going to get over it.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
After reading the Boston Red Sox Blog on SB about Smoltz
I realized its not Papel’s fault. The Red Sox Fan’s are just douche bags.
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
OT: Smoltz on Sports Talk Radio
I happened to be in Boston on Sunday and Monday morning and then in Atlanta later on Monday. I was in the car a lot and was curious how local sports talk radio in Smoltz’s two former baseball homes would react to his strong outing for his new team against the Padres.
In Atlanta, they didn’t talk about it much when I was listening, but when they did, they were fairly supportive. I think this stemmed from their love of Smoltz and from the fact that the Braves starting rotation is so strong that they know bringing him back there wouldn’t have been the right move.
In Boston, they mentioned Smoltz and the impresssive outing and then said this was a perfect example of how the AL is better than the NL. I wanted to throw something at the radio but felt my safety in the car was more important than avenging sports talk radio stupidity.
You can't fix stupid
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
I equate...
listening to sports talk radio with watching a sit-com: I know how it’s going to start, I know how it’s going to end, and I have to buy in to a lot of unrealistic bullshit to get anything out of it.
For instance, this morning the local sports talk radio show host (I tune in because his co-host is well informed, gives good points, even though he goes of on political tangents from time to time) got on the topic of the Little League World Series, because a local team was playing in it. Did we talk about the game they played or the players or how they got there? No, we talk about HIS days playing Little League 25 fucking years ago, how is daughter is going to start Pee-Wee softball soon, and so on, AND SO ON. FOR THE ENTIRE FUCKING SECOND HOUR OF THE SHOW!
It takes a lot for someone to make me hate talking about the Little League World Series, but he, along with Brent Musberger, can sure make me do it.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
For the first time in 4+ years...
I’ve broken down and brought my laptop to class. So entertain me.
V, b.
Awesome
Don't ping my cheese with your bandwidth.
by RosevilleRedbird on Aug 25, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Top 500 songs of the decade?
http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/7685-the-top-500-tracks-of-the-2000s-500-201/
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 25, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
uh, no, pitchfork
you’re doing it all wrong
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 25, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I personally couldn't believe Popozao didn't make the cut
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 25, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I've been refusing to read there list
because I know I will just be irate
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 25, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
*their
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 25, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a bad top 10
It’s not going to make everyone happy but at least it isn’t Animal Collective 1-5 and Wavves 5-10. Pitchfork isn’t as bad as everyone makes them out to be.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Aug 25, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
all I have to say is
they are not very open minded
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 25, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
No top 500 is complete with every genre
But it is a good 500 considering what they review.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Aug 25, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard Charlie Weis is trying to figure out whether Jimmy Clausen throws a splitter or sinker
Discuss
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
I don't know about Jimmy...
But Casey throws an underrated sinker, while Rick throws nothing but wild pitches.
V, b.
ok... pies?
I read regularly enough that I understand about 90% of the inside jokes on here, and most of the 10% I don’t get I assume are buried in game threads that I skim and I just missed something, but they usually go away so I don’t bother with them.
However, this “MOAR PIES” thing keeps coming back and back, and I assume DanUp’s pie reference is probably the same reference.
Please. somebody sate my curiousity and share: What’s the story/joke/pop culture reference behind the pie references
gdm loves his pie
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 25, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it's part of operation midwest nice
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2009/8/5/978227/an-abridged-veb-glossary
with a little bit of “THROW MOAR SINKERS” if I understand the chronology correctly
by brackenthebox on Aug 25, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
And I've been curious - "MOAR?"
what’s with the spelling?
by Ray Lankford on Aug 25, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's like internet-speak or something.
Like with lolcats.
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
I don't care for it.
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 25, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i has a sad.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
ova 9000!
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
P-P-P-P-Powerbook!
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
Stop it.
All of you. You’re grown ass adults.
Now, where I’d put the rally genitalia?
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 25, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
where'd I
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
I think I know where you put it
Try right here
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Screw you.
I clicked and I even knew what it was.
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
You may enjoy this then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr2jlCyCJBI
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 25, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
missed a perfect chance
to rhyme a “rick rolled” at the very end.
but brilliant.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
The whole literal video series is great
My personal favorite is “Separate Ways” by Journey
“Total Eclipse of the Heart” is another fave
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm going with the cows
they’re sneaky
Holliday: "Albert, Carp and I have been talking about it and we think we know what your problem is. You've been tipping your swings." I expect no further problems.
that's a big part of why I was confused....
I gathered that it might have something to do with midwest niceness and trying to suck up to people, but with the “MOAR” part, I figured perhaps I was missing some pop culture reference everyone else got or that it was probably some comment someone made one-time for some reason and it stuck.
I also failed to see that in the glossary, which I actually did look at before asking. Problem was I looked for “MOAR PIES!” and that obviously isn’t there.
Anyway, thanks!
if memory serves
The pie is in there.
The MOAR is probably older than a lolcat. Pop culture is not explained in the glossary. Try urbandictionary if you think you’re missing something.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Stl will win them over with our charm
We’ll offer them pies and whatnot, they’ll love the city, and then sign for the hometown discount. I don’t know who started it, but I saw AlxFritz go on and on about it in a hilarious post so maybe it was him.
by Merry CRasmus on Aug 25, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was a reference to the Chic-Fil-A ads.
and was directed generally toward MooCow at first. You know the ads that say Eat Moar Chiken!
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
That is where the MOAR came from, I am pretty sure anyway.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 25, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
well, if not...
the lolcats reference works as well at this point, as if you do a google image search for “moar” you get mostly lolcats.
I have to say, the first time I saw students of mine looking up lolcats while bored during study hall, I thought they were the dumbest thing ever.
Somehow, the more I saw them, the more hilarious I found them to be.
"Somehow, the more I saw them, the more hilarious I found them to be."
It’s true. It’s so true.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
It's the Midwest Niceness factor
It’s a funny jab at the idea that we Midwest folks are super-tame and uber-nice and that we are an attractive destination for players for that reason because “we bake pies.” It’s a comically homey little image. So when Matt Holliday falls in love with St. Louis, it’ll be because WE BAKED HIM SOME FRESH APPLE PIES!
I surely could have explained this better.
Yeah, it started with Matt Holliday,
during a discussion about our prospects for resigning him. There’s a bit of the midwestern stereotype mixed with “The best fans in baseball” line, plus a thin bit of evidence from Walker and McGwire. Pies were brought up late in the original discussion; not sure exactly how it became so pie-centric, but that is the funniest part.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
it was fritz
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2009/7/27/965109/game-102-overflow-x-2-and#18782091
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
adam dunn hates apple pie!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
NOM NOM NOM NOM
Holliday: "Albert, Carp and I have been talking about it and we think we know what your problem is. You've been tipping your swings." I expect no further problems.
Are they still having Cookie Monster eat fruits and vegetables?
I get it, eat healthy and all that. If that’s the case then change his name to Apple Goblin or Fruit Beast or Vegetable Troll.
by Cardfanintherock on Aug 25, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope they have stopped that
Eating healthy is for duckface girls and Apple users and people from Colorado. I.E., not Real Americans.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
cookies are sometimes-food.
Adam Dunn eats healthy.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
those are disturbing
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Not so much
Devouring a beloved muppet is not deliciously disturbing, or disturbingly delicious, or anything of the sort…I think the eyes just make it creepy to me…Maybe.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
OT
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
Excellent.
I f*cking hate that face.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
i like you
A little bit more after that statement
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, yes, yes.
Do not do this, any female. You do not look sexy, you look like you’re trying to do a Mick Jagger or Steven Tyler impersonation. I know of no male who finds Mick Jagger or Steven Tyler sexy.
George Michael?
Holliday: "Albert, Carp and I have been talking about it and we think we know what your problem is. You've been tipping your swings." I expect no further problems.
Normal rules don't apply to David Bowie
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Aug 25, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i'm pretty sure ours is right...
if you had said “man” you might have some leeway
Holliday: "Albert, Carp and I have been talking about it and we think we know what your problem is. You've been tipping your swings." I expect no further problems.
Men are starting to do this, too.
It’s a scary world.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I look just
like my avatar, but there’s a bow clipped to my feathers.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I just gave it a try
I think the key is to do slight d-baggy turn of the head first, and then your lips sort of curl automatically. I don’t think there are any lasting effects, but I can’t be sure.
We'll have to keep a close eye on your next post
to be sure the douchiness didn’t/doesn’t extend to writing abilities.
The closest I can get
is the sad puppy-dog lip. With a little bit of tremble.
I find it to be quite useful in certain situations, that’s all. Don’t judge me.
Somebody needs to start up a new website
Duckfaceswithdouchebags.com
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I could do a website where I make fun of pitchfork
sort of a counterpoint to all their reviews, etc
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 25, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
that site is a collection of all sorts of physical presentations (hair, fakin bakin tans, makeup,
clothes, facial jewelry, etc.) that offend good taste.
% of women on that site that also have a tramp stamp: est. 90%.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Might as well be a bullseye
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 25, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
RT @Dustin_Mattison
Cardinals to the Arizona Fall League: L. Lynn, D. Kopp, A. Reifer, M. Parisi, B. Anderson, D. Descalso, D. Jones & T.Henley
Shut up, Fritz™.
a preview of the NRI's for ST next year, depending on who you think gets added to the 40-man
between now and the Rule V deadline.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
i'm a little surprised -- i thought he wouldn't be well enough to play anywhere until late spring.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Sept 1 call up question
with the regular AAA season not ending till Sept 6th and Memphis with a good chance to make the playoffs, will the Cards add a third catcher before Memphis is done for the year?
odds are it'll be pagnozzi.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
It's been a few years...
…but yes—very good time indeed. Make sure you’ve got a patient DD with ya, though. They give you a small glass, but there are a LOT of beers to “taste.” Oh man, I just drooled on myself…
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by EsemplasticSaxum on Aug 25, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I am not a St. Louisan (if only...)
but I now have plans for Sept. 19
"Ludwick, I could kiss you on the nuts!" - the red baron 7-29-09
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
they have
all there beers they brew on tap. even the seasonal s. usually have a band and they sell food. i think they have one brew they only serve there.
Is it as crowded as the heritage festival in Forest Park?
That place is a fucking mad house.
by Ray Lankford on Aug 25, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Ever been to Taste of Clayton before?>
The amount of hot chicks was staggering
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
New favorite baseball player
Move over Adam Wainwright
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 25, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Kids don't make huge targets
How does he expect to even hit the “next batter” if he can’t even hit the strike zone apparently?
by Cardfanintherock on Aug 25, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Again...
…why must ESPN treat the LLWS like some kind of elite athletic contest? It’s not! It’s a bunch of kids playing baseball at a level where the game is supposed to be about improving and having fun…not winning and “the competition.” The kid was clearly pissed off and disappointed and shouldn’t have to have his conversation w/ the coach on record…and now it is. Way to go, ESPN. You have hit a new low.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
oh stop it
They make TV, people watch.
It’s a business.
and it is dubious whether 11 or 12 year old kids need to be part of entertainment and
under what circumstances.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
wow
If you think it’s acceptable to use 12 year old kids to make money then I just don’t know what to say. I think it’s shameful and an abomination. They take these heartbreaking moments that these kids are going to remember for the rest of their lives, put on TV for millions to see…all to make money. It’s bullshit and I’m sorry that you don’t see it that way.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
you sound naive
I bet someone younger than 12 made your shirt and shoes
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
no you are confused
You are think of a hippie. A hipster just wears clothes so tight they were made for a 12 year old
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Did I say that was okay?
Besides I’m a nudist so I do not know what these shirts and shoes are. I get a lot of strange looks when i go to the store, but it works for the most part!
But seriously…to me, as a father of two, the thought of using children to make money turns my stomach. I fear that there is something unavoidable about the system in general (i.e. the Third-World child labor of which you speak), but the fact that ESPN puts these games on TV and puts its hype machine behind them, then sets it up to include all the human drama involved with pre-pubescent kids seems a little shameful to me. I may not be able to do much about that…but I sure as shit don’t have to watch the LLWS. That may sound idealistic or some shit, but I really don’t care. ESPN’s LLWS coverage is an abomination.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
If I was a kid
I would be pretty excited to be on ESPN
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think he's necessarily saying
that the games shouldn’t be televised, just that the coaches shouldn’t be miked and conversations with the players shouldn’t be broadcast, especially this one.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
"it's a business"
is not a catch-all excuse for setting up 12 y/os to embarass themselves on national TV.
or to encourage the kind of pressure that makes kids overthrow and destroy their
growth plates, etc.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Lineup via FSN Tweet
Lugo 2B
Ryan SS
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Ludwick RF
DeRosa 3B
Molina C
Rasmus CF
Wainwright P
....my quick smells like french toast...
DanUpBaby
Wandy is the poster boy for patience with a young pitcher.
He wasn’t very good at the start of his career, but he did continue to make slight improvements each subsequent year. He finally started his bust out last year, and now you have it-a solid #2 who pitches occasionally like a #1 and occasionally like someone who should be demoted.
Actually, he reminds me a bit of Ted Lilly. I wouldn’t be surprised if he stays above average for the next several years. Here’s hoping the Cardinals either solve him, or run into him on a night he looks like he should be demoted.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
Oh, and could you get Mike Adams for the bullpen, please?
Yeah
Check this out also:
http://www.fangraphs.com/graphs.aspx?playerid=2586&position=P&page=0&type=full
Smoltz.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 25, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The weird thing about Wandy
Is that he’s not even that young. He’s 30 now, which I think means he debuted when he was 26. That’s pretty much way too old to be coming to the major leagues, being below average, and expecting any kind of future success. I mean, if we called up some 26 year old and he posted a 5.53 and 5.64 ERA in his first two years, I’d be looking at this crappy 28 year old starter and saying “GTFO!”
I’m not disagreeing with you, by the way. Just pointing out that he’s a strange case, that’s for sure.
When I referred to Wandy as young,
I meant in experience-young in the sense that he was new to the league.
It is an odd career path. I can only assume someone in the Astros organization believed in him and his stuff, and were willing to go on the bumpy ride with him. Whatever. They certainly appear to be right. If Houston were to put him up for trade, I’d think at least 27 teams would put in a call.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
Oh, and could you get Mike Adams for the bullpen, please?
2 thoughts/questions
1. I’m not sure if this has been mentioned, but maybe the “tipping pitches” thing is just a way to throw other teams off by giving them something else to think about. If teams are watching Smoltz’s starts trying to figure out how he is tipping pitches, then they are not doing advance scouting as well as they normally would. Also when hitters are facing him instead of focusing on the ball or picking up the ball, they might be watching his glove or whatever for some indication of what the pitch is going to be. Obviously if the hitter is not watching the ball, it makes it more difficult to hit.
2. I was wondering with Memphis likely headed to the playoffs, is Troy Glaus (or any other rehabbing player) allowed to play in the playoffs for a minor league team?
Glaus on a 20 day rehab assignment
he has to activated or put back on the DL around Sept 3rd, so he won’t be on Memphis’ playoff roster. Most likely Glaus will be called up on Sept 1st to PH.
Good fanpost read on the tipping pitches
Big Day in the Day of Flim
Might be going back to the old world of 9 to 5. No more Freelance work. I had an interview today that went pretty good. And I think I found a new place so I can move out my mom’s basement. It is Frontenac of all places
i will actually going to be working for my old manager
That I loved to work with. That is the only reason I want to go back
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I just won $850,000!
All I have to do is send a stranger my personal information.
Shut up, Fritz™.
Hooray!
I just got a job, too. Except I just graduated from college, so I’m not “going back to” 9-5, I’m trying it on for the first time.
That is good to hear
I heard people that just graduated were having problems finding jobs
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
You're gonna remember those days
of the “first class at 1 PM” fondly in just under 6 months, mark my words.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
OT: Poz crushed the Royals today
His blog post today is easily boiled down to one sentence…I’ve seen some real crap in my day, but this is the worst Royals team I’ve ever seen.
Unlike the Cubs, I genuinely feel horrible for the Royals and all 980 of their remaining fans. They very well may have the most inept GM in baseball, they have no particularly exciting talent near the ML level, they have little money, and their ownership is either clueless or doesn’t care or both.
I’m old enough to remember when that was a really good team. Now they’re basically a AAA team beyond Greinke, Soria, and I guess Billy Butler.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions
For as bad as they have been
You know how many rookies they have played this year?…. 0
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Amazing
They have a minor league first baseman who has consistently posted really high OBPs in his career, has shown power, and yet he rots in the minors while the Royals keep going with the Mike Jacobs race to outs plan. Now the FO has no idea if Ka’aihue can play at the ML level or not. Two of their last first round picks (Moustakas and Hosmer) are currently out with concussion issues and the other can’t play because apparently he can’t see w/o prescription glasses of some kind. It’s just a whacko situation.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Eff word this time zone!!!
I keep getting it backwards and thinking the game would start at 6:15 EDT. Now I have two more damn hours to kill. I hate this place.
Shut up, Fritz™.
well just to spite you
I am going to make a VEB Hoodie. Hanes.com is having a great deal on them today. So it will be a limited edition
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 25, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
ooohhh sweet.
I wanna VEB hoodie…
Don't ping my cheese with your bandwidth.
by RosevilleRedbird on Aug 25, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
OMG!!!!!!
MLB NETWORK SAID THAT WINS AREN’T UNDER A PITCHERS CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guys… we did it. We fucking did it.
Smoltz.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 25, 2009 6:40 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I like how
Steve Phillips became the voice of reason for a whole second and then became his usual idiot self
No excuses. No injuries. No "better luck next time"
Do it, and shut the f—- up.
-Reggie Jackson
He repeated that nonsense in a broadcast earlier this year
It was a Mets game and Johan Santana was pitching. He has been great this year, as usual, and yet his record after like 10 starts was nothing exciting. Phillips said in the booth that he truly beleived pitchers earned their run support. They showed him saying this on camera, as they do sometimes. Hershiser was in the booth too and stared a bullet into Steve’s brain, as if to say “What the…I mean, that’s…just…wow…that’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard.” Orel then sarcastically asked something to the effect of “how does Johan NOT earn his run support?”
Again, Steve Phillips was the GM of the Mets, and that team made the World Series. It is worth noting that he dealt away Jason Bay for I-don’t-even-know-who and tried to put Reyes into the Alomar trade. He was so incompetent that many attribute a trade that he didn’t even make to his record without batting an eyelash (Kazmir-Victor Zambrano).
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
That was a truly brilliant one
What’s pathetic is I pretty much knew which one you were linking before even reading it. Maybe I should have spent more time talking to girls…
/ducks shoe thrown by my lovely wife…who is indeed the love of my life…
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
awesome
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 25, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Not so fast.
We still got to get them to throw out BA and RBI as particularly useful evaluations of a player’s performance. But that’s awesome.
Statheads, rejoice!
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
Verducci and Heyman quoted OBP and SLG
Smoltz.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 25, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome-sauce.
I feel like the victory over the “old” methods of evaluating players is going to come so subtly that no one’s gonna realize it for a couple of weeks. And then all the sudden, ESPN is going to be saying stuff like, “Well, his BABIP is really exorbitantly high this year, at around .400, so it’s gotta come down.” And people will start using WPA instead of BA with RISP. And they’ll use tERA and FIP.
/fantasy-world
But seriously, lots of progress is being made.
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
It's filtering into the players
And my guess is that’ll get MSM guys to educate themselves.
Not afraid to nitpick
Heyman did?
WOW!
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Key word in what I said is,
particularly. However, I think it’s safe to say that it doesn’t measure a player’s skill as well as it measures a player’s value in a particular year (which it doesn’t do well but it does somewhat).
You could have a guy who hit for high average, but had a really high BABIP. Or you could have a guy who hits .240 with 50 home runs.
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
Um...
I disagree. BA is highly vulnerable to BABIP induced-confounding, plus guys who draw a lot of walks aren’t rewarded for it in direct ways, and in fact if you are a walk machine it completely removes a TON of plate appearances from consideration. It’s a tool, I suppose…but a fairly unversatile one with a broken handle.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
GGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, just leave, like, go to canada
Smoltz.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 25, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh come on
What did Canada ever do to deserve that? Why not Uganda or something?
"You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Aug 25, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Mo and DeWitt and the players sit down, have some beverages, come together
And share stories of how excruciating it is to be interviewed by The Cat.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
baseball after an off day
the best
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
I just realized I get to watch the Cards on TV tonight!!
New Orleans is in the Houston market, after all. FSAstros it is
"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang
FSNMW
just brought up Larry Bigbie, forgot all about him
No excuses. No injuries. No "better luck next time"
Do it, and shut the f—- up.
-Reggie Jackson
re: Wagner
I hit FG and saw this. I love that Wagner and Papelbon were arguing over Twitter. The Red Sox clubhouse has got to be a real happy-go-lucky place these days. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of d-bags guys….
But I was wondering about when Cameron says Wagner is “known as a guy who causes issues with other players”….is there some history w/ Wagner I missed that I should be aware of?
He's had several spats over his career
He called out the Mets team at one point that caused a stir, I know the Phils (I wanna say it was Millwood?) didn’t get along with him.
Not afraid to nitpick
Remember when they were the "Band of Idiots"
…and were basically a bunch of goofy-looking hairy dudes doing battle with the Yankees? I kind of liked that…
Then they turned into the Yankees with just as much drama and considerably less dirtball-ness and more proven ’roid users. How about that.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 25, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
there's Wainwright taking a nap...
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
A.D.A.M. is gonna kill them when he sees the footage of his pre-game stretches.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Shelby Miller sighting
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i think he cut his hair or something
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
game thread?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Duncan interview
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
tipping pitches! throw moar sinkers!
hahaha.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
was that Carlos Lee eating yoghurt with his fingers?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
MOAR GAME THREAD
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
are we getting a GT
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
what was that, Corky?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
what did he do
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Aug 25, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
it's what he didn't...
come anywhere near catching up with that double
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
Playin really shallow against Bourn
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 25, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Yuck
not a way A.D.A.M usually starts
No excuses. No injuries. No "better luck next time"
Do it, and shut the f—- up.
-Reggie Jackson
i feel filthy watching this.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
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