Cardinals show Shelby Miller the money
by DanUpBaby on Aug 17, 2009 5:01 PM EDT
286 comments
This takes a little sting off the Holliday trade, doesn't it? From Twitter, 2009's favorite affront to the newspaper, via JonathanMayo:
Source tells me Shelby Miller has indeed agreed to terms with the Cards. No. 19 pick in #mlbdraft will indeed get $2.9 mil as I guesstimated
Tired, perhaps, of hearing the managing partner's name turned into shorthand for a team that doesn't care enough to open De—well, you know—the Cardinals have spent the last month and a half operating as though they were the Red Sox.
Wagner Mateo got $3.1 million, the overseas bonus of the year; Matt Holliday was acquired, on the cusp of being the free agent of the offseason, for years of possible cost control; and now the Cardinals have thrown a little more than twice the slot recommendation at a guy who only fell their way because of signability issues. This year has begun to remind me of the early years of JockettyBall, which featured both the famed prospect trades for veterans and the occasional foray (Ankiel, Drew) into signability land. It's a tough combination to beat.
Shelby Miller almost immediately becomes the best prospect in this weakened system; it's a shame MLB's ridiculous draft procedures have basically resigned teams to losing the chance to play their first rounder in short season ball, but as good as he's supposed to be it would be surprising not to see his mid-nineties fastball in full season ball as soon as next year.
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Here is a picture of a wizard.
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
by il rosso on Aug 17, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Busting out the Good stuff.
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
by RiverRat on Aug 17, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is ALSO a picture of a wizard.
Let’s hope Kemp does this again.
by vexedtechie on Aug 17, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still love it.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 17, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And this is a picture of Mr. Wizard
by saladdays on Aug 17, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is he as awesome as Dr. Science?*
(*Dr. Science is not a real doctor; “I have a master’s degree… in science!”)
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Aug 17, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But apparently
not how to spell. “than”, not “then”.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 17, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He taught him and then he taught his teachers
What, isn’t clear.
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
counter!
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/photos/cardinals-show-shelby-miller-the/200990
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 17, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So 200990 = Money now?
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I kept thinking
when I saw this photo was, “Not a picture of a wizard.”
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 17, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
almost odd that stlcardinals.com and stltoday.com/cards
hasn’t reported this yet
i hope the information is correct from JMayo
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
by 82Special on Aug 17, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Per Leach
Club confirms, Miller signing announcement coming soon.12 minutes ago from web
MatthewHLeach
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
by RiverRat on Aug 17, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His article
can be found here.
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
by RiverRat on Aug 17, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
alllllllllllllllllright
thanks, now i feel better.
good for the Birds. i’m very happy they stepped up & got the deal done.
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by gdm426 on Aug 17, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To care over the powder blue argument from the other thread
the ‘nice’ looking PB uniforms from 2005 were made by Mitchell & Ness.
Since then, Majestic has taken over all throwbacks and they don’t care about accuracy.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That explains it.
The ones from 05 are markedly better for good reason, then.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 17, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, I see
It’s THOSE we want then in 2010. PB Saturdays.
I know whom to call for a hole in my roof or a whole new roof.
by lightbulb on Aug 17, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
try hawksworth
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Aug 17, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do not like them on a fox
I do not like them on a box
I do not like them on a Wizard
I do not like them on a lizard
I do not like them on a Rat
I do not like them on a cat
Road greys, to me, are much better
Over and above some sky blue sweater
I do not like power blues, my friend
I do not like them ’til the end.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Aug 17, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Is power blues
Like power pop, but with more sadness?
by purple_haze on Aug 17, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
and darker sunglasses.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Aug 17, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
= Buddy Guy
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 18, 2009 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah!!!!
I’m glad to see Lunhow come through with a solid pick, and management coming through by actually committing itself to spending more on prospects.
So does this mean we signed all of our picks for this years draft?
Can’t wait for next years already now
by from First to Third on Aug 17, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll bring tom s.'
<a href="http://" target="new">link from the fanpost over here
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 17, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
/link fail
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 17, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see the fanpost now
I have the main stories rss’sed to me, just clicked on it didn’t pay attention
by from First to Third on Aug 17, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are those similar to rous'?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 17, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just a little flour and butter
Mix in a little stock and we got a gravy
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 17, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MMMMMMMMMMM
Gravy.
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
by RiverRat on Aug 17, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking something more like this
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 17, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
wtf is that?!
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 18, 2009 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rodents Of Unusual Size
I don’t think they exist.
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
by Solanus on Aug 18, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All the popular memes
have been destroyed. All those worries about whether the management would do what it take to be a winner again seem silly in retrospect. Looking in hindsight, the toughest thing to do last year was the right thing to do. We didn’t have the bullets to keep up in an arms race with the Brewers and Cubs, and we resisted the urge to try to win the unwinnable. Not so much the view here on some of that, but the general sentiment was malaise after the trading deadline. Had they listened to the fans then they wouldn’t have had the pieces to move this year after the Brewers and Cubs shot their wad. I’m still pretty convinced they didn’t do the best thing long term with the Holliday trade, but there is something to be said for taking your stand and trying to shut the Cubs reign of terror out right now when you can…and it is working beautifully.
Landing both Miller and Mateo makes everything else that happened much more digestable long term too. This was one theme I bought into to some extent – they we would always solely focus on the quick moving lower ceiling types. This proves that offbase also.
by Merry CRasmus on Aug 17, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
yeah
I was thinking about that, it got really quiet around here for a week or two.
it looks like the cubs just won’t have the firepower to make it this year, especially since one of their trades from last year, harden, is not as amazing as some would have thought.
anyways, we have a whole new team, it’s like there’s two 2009 teams. enjoy the holliday while you can heh
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 17, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Enjoy the Holliday while you can"
Do you moonlight as a headline writer for the PD?
by goodymobb on Aug 17, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no. but he plays one on the interwebs
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by gdm426 on Aug 17, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if I knew what the PD was
then I could answer that question
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 18, 2009 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
St. Louis Post Dispatch
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by gdm426 on Aug 18, 2009 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The resemblance of DeWitt
and Emperor Palpatine in that picture is uncanny
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Aug 17, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that's Dewitt
but I could be wrong
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 17, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh...well then it is emperor palpatine
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Aug 17, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe it's MO
but not sure.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 17, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or not. Actually no clue...not TLR, is it?
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 17, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take a good look kids.
This is what steroids does to you.
by purple_haze on Aug 17, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats "do" not "does"
Learn English, dumbass.
by purple_haze on Aug 17, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steroids is...bad
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's one of the ground crew/security staff.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 18, 2009 5:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know DeWitt played CF
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is not dewitt
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by gdm426 on Aug 17, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, with Miller signed, is Smoltz
going to be pursued? I’ve read from several outlets that the Cards and Dogers are the primary suitors, with the Dodgers looking at him for the rotation and the Cars as a late inning bullpen guy.
Do you want him, and do you think the cards will get him?
I say yes and yes.
People sleep peacably in their beds at night because rough men stand at the ready to do violence on their behalf--George Orwell.
by MilCardFan on Aug 17, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SIGN JOHN SMOLTZ
F*** Billy Beane... actually, I kinda like Holliday
by vivaelpujols on Aug 17, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, we're doing Smoltz now
Everyone, change your sigs!
SIGN JOHN SMOLTZ
by vivaelpujols on Aug 17, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you 6. i am not updating the glossary for this.
;p
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 17, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll sabermetric you're ass
SIGN JOHN SMOLTZ
by vivaelpujols on Aug 17, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd for awesome misusage of "you're"
by vexedtechie on Aug 17, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to make sweet love to this thread.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Aug 17, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even wanna know how you would pull that off.
/Pun intended
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 17, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But will they honor the warrenty
on your monitor after that?
Gregatron is not responsible for any of the crap he just wrote.
St. Louis vegetarian blog
by Gregatron on Aug 17, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That works on two levels
Nice.
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gammons guessing it'll be St. Louis.
He cites Of the Rose’s recruitment.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 17, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Atta boy Mark, git er done
Feel free to flag me for voluntarily using “git er done.”
by mojowo11 on Aug 17, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
how 'bout the anti-flag?
I gave it a rec!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 17, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always thought
the appropriate* use of the term was “git r done.”
*Note that I do not condone any use of the term, whether it’s with an “er,” “r,” or whatever.
by goodymobb on Aug 17, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was in union visiting someone with 36Ds
and I went to walmart….saw a Get R Done tattoo on some dude…looked home made too….epic.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Aug 17, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and boom goes the dynamite....
Congrats. Hopefully you got a camera phone pic!
by goodymobb on Aug 17, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hope you meant a pic of the friend
not the tat guy.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 17, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I found a new Avator for EvilFrog
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 17, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
that seems to be a sinister frog.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 17, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
He looks like more of a schemer than a doer.
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doing is what
his minions are for.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Aug 17, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Ehhhhxcellent."
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 17, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slithers! Release the hounds!
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 17, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that frog looks like
he/she made some really, really shady investments/accounting and is just incredibly satisfied with him/herself for pulling the wool over everyone’s collective eyes.
Stupid white collar frog criminals.
by goodymobb on Aug 17, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's S/He
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great sig.
Just one question, Is that a personal experience or a dream sequence?
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 17, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nightmare
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you might say that this occurs
only in dreams?
by brackenthebox on Aug 17, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gd you half-Japanese girls
you do it to me every time.
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
by effin fisk on Aug 17, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sang Pink Triangle to my kids as a lullabye when they were babies
It truly is the case that what matters is how you sing it, not what you sing.
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha
Lesbians…
…
Zzzzzzz
by purple_haze on Aug 17, 2009 7:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I've been on a huge weezer kick lately
it’s all that I’ve listened to in the car for the last two weeks, and el scorcho remains my favorite song. I still maintain that a third great weezer album can be made by replacing the four worst songs on maladroit with the first four on green.
by DanUpBaby on Aug 17, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I loved the first two, but it kind of faded after that...
I remember when Jay Leno came across the drummer one day when doing one of his door knocking bits.
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
green's pretty good, I really like maladroit
but I haven’t really listened to the last two. The new single just leaked, though, and I’m enjoying it more than anything since keep fishin’.
by DanUpBaby on Aug 17, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
link?
I haven’t heard it
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
by effin fisk on Aug 17, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just kidding, apparently that's broken
This link autoloads some crappy song and takes you to a free-downloads site, but it appears to work.
by DanUpBaby on Aug 17, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a'thank you
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
by effin fisk on Aug 17, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but he's beaten it
he averages 95.5 per fangraphs right now, which matches his major league high, and I don’t have the numbers or the pitchf/x diving to back it up but I’d say he’s topping out higher than he ever has this year.
by DanUpBaby on Aug 17, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're in the music part of todays thread sir
none of this baseball drivel.
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
by RiverRat on Aug 17, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GOBs forbid!!!!
Thou shalt have no interest before baseball!!!!!
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 17, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand
Are you saying that there are only two great Weezer albums and that you could accomplish a third with this combination? Or are you sayin that Maladroit and Green are both great albums, but a third great one could be accomplished by combining them in this manner?
As for me, they were great for a good bit. After green, it tailed off for me, but I like red, so it’s a good sign.
by purple_haze on Aug 17, 2009 7:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I'm saying the first two are great
and that a third, slightly less great, could be made (and, for instance, sits at this very moment in my car stereo) by surgically removing slob and some other songs from maladroit and replacing them with four of the songs on green, namely the two that don’t sound like everything else on the album (hash pipe and island in the sun) and the two best of the ones that do sound like everything else on the album (don’t let go and photograph.)
they’ve gotten a little boring since pinkerton, and I wasn’t a fan of red at all, but I don’t have Weezer Derangement Syndrome a la pitchfork, which is inventing new negative numbers to give each successive album.
by DanUpBaby on Aug 17, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is the blue disk called Blue?
I’m horrible with album & song names, but those are still my favorite Weezer songs. (Sweater song, say it aint so, buddy holly, ect)
by STLRegalia on Aug 17, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
weezer is ok
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 18, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good, but her current one is still better
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by gdm426 on Aug 17, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see this
as an avatar yet. Where are you?
by stlfan on Aug 17, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love this.
Nothing like getting half way through a thread and finding a dozen posts discussing a new avatar for me.
by Evilfrog on Aug 17, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miller signed, but now Smoltz?
I’d prefer Speier for $ reasons.
Forget Christmas in July... every day's a Holliday in St. Louis.
by zoomzoomj88 on Aug 17, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why they both get pro-rated league min now?
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 17, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
let the
obsessing begin…man obsessing and overhyping prospects is kinda lame, lol
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
by DESTROYER on Aug 17, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think you are over hyped
and you need to stop obsessing over it
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 17, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're an overly-obsessive hype-man
“Now screeeeammmm!!!”
by vexedtechie on Aug 17, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, why did we even draft DESTROYER?
There were so many good posters with high upside on the board…
by purple_haze on Aug 17, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's looking like a major bust, I have to admit.
perhaps he’s haunted by the ghost of a certain Detroit Tigers middle reliever…
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 18, 2009 5:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I give this post an anti-rec
What good does this post do? What do you want us to do, blithely dismiss any news of our #1 draft pick signing?
by mojowo11 on Aug 17, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
didnt say that at all
actually I am ecstatic that we signed miller, just I am not a fan of people that invest alot of emotion into kids that really haven’t proven they can play pro ball let alone college ball since he is a prepster. From what it looks like he has a lot of upside but the draft is as much of a crapshoot as anything else that involves luck. my point is he is hyped up for what reason he is a 1st rounder? eh oh well, I will take my chances in the later rounds too….cough cough PUJOLS cough cough. Its not to take away from the post.
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
by DESTROYER on Aug 17, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
imo
The Pujols draft argument is 10x worst than the anything can happen 2006 Cardinal argument
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 17, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
einstein sucked at math in grade school. einstein was a genius.
ergo, all people who suck at math are einsteins in the waiting.
which is why we should stop overhyping the physics departments at all the big universities and start listening to part-time electricians’ theories on the composition of the universe.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Aug 17, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
that little half-second of Albert's smile on SC's montage never gets old
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 17, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Even I impress myself sometimes."
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was pointing at Colby
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 17, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Maybe Tony'll remember your name now, kid."
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nobody beats the wiz
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by gdm426 on Aug 17, 2009 6:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Ben Sheets
Can he even play this year? I’m sure he would be a better option than Mr. Doesn’tpitchwellemeyer and a better option than Boggs this year.
Man, with this outfield, need to get rid of that Rasmus, no Ankiel, wait no, Rasmus wait...uhhhh
by Taskmaster on Aug 17, 2009 6:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SHEETS
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 18, 2009 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's shelby's agent talking to DeWitt
6ly, i really like this deal. i think it’s a win-win-win for everyone. i just hope dave is gone before he has a chance to “fix” him once he gets to the STL
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by gdm426 on Aug 17, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Miller took it in the shorts...
watch how Strasburg’s agent does it. That’s how you get max $$$ for your client. Go to College. Play in Japan. Head for the North Woods. The kid had leverage…
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
by guayzimi on Aug 17, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miller said publicly when he was drafted he wanted to sign with the Cards, and soon
I imagine that basically took the legs out from under the leverage he should’ve had.
by mojowo11 on Aug 17, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so did matt harrington.
St. Louis Cardinals -- 2006 World Champions
by greenback06 on Aug 17, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps
Miller actually wants to play professional baseball, and the distinction between “incredibly rich” and “unbelievably, amazingly rich” is not one that is of great importance to him. TBH, I think I’d do exactly the same thing in his shoes.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 18, 2009 5:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually that's a pix of Boras
talking to the Nats
Proud sponsor of the Official 2009 StL Cardinal theme song: Reason to Believe
by gocards62 on Aug 17, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gammons says he sees Smoltz with Cards
Because of OMDN Engage
He had decided to live forever, or to die in the attempt
by slash2049 on Aug 17, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
espn not espn.com
He had decided to live forever, or to die in the attempt
by slash2049 on Aug 17, 2009 6:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
i actually found a link of the video
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 17, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Projectability and Frame
Does anyone seriously think that Shelby is going to throw harder than 94MPH some day?
Pitchers are much more likely to back off a few MPH as they get older than they are to gain a few MPH.
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 6:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that doesn't make sense to me
A kid has not reached his physical maturity at 18
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 17, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think a kid who throws 94 at 18 is NOT an early maturer?
People mature at different rates. I’d be willing to bet that Shelby Miller is an early maturer.
Also, can anyone name a guy who threw harder as he got older?
I do see late velocity jumps in guys with major mechanical flaws, but I don’t think that’s Shelby Miller.
In the end, I think the whole idea of projectability is bunk.
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Carpenter
Avg velo this year is higher than at any point previous…I saw that stat linked somewhere earlier today. I will search.
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
by RiverRat on Aug 17, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a quick link to
Fangraphs, but they only have info for the last 2 years..not a whole lot of help. I will continue search when I get home.
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
by RiverRat on Aug 17, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carp = Counfounded
He’s been so injured for so long, that it’s a good bet that he hasn’t been at his max for a while.
It’s also common that guys pick up a few MPH after TJ surgery, due to subtle pre-surgery velocity declines and better attention to conditioning post-surgery.
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know....
wasn’t really disagreeing with you because of the fact that he has been injured…it was more of a “I just read that somewhere….” kind of moment. I believe you are absolutely correct in that we are just now seeing his gain from TJS.
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
by RiverRat on Aug 17, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Max Scherzer
barely touched 90 in high school. Roger Clemens threw 86 in high school. Guys who throw mid-90s in HS only back off if they get hurt or if they have to back off to throw strikes.
Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...
by giveml on Aug 17, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm talking about non-injured guys in the 5 or so years post-draft
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was in Goold's 10@10
on PD website.
Item #7
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
by TNTinCO on Aug 17, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with those numbers...
…is that they are affected by pitch selection.
They aren’t pure FB numbers.
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish he would put a link
somewhere, but he says avg FB velo.
“Turning again to FanGraphs, we can see how this season Carpenter is likely to set a career-best for the average velocity of his fastball. His average mph since coming to the Cardinals:”
Are you saying he’s not distinguishing between his types of FB?
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
by RiverRat on Aug 17, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The number's too low for a FB
I took 92.6 as an average of all pitches.
His current main FB is in the 94-95 range, not the 92-93 range.
The sentence construction isn’t the best.
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forget if Carp throws 2 FBs or not
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 seamer for sure
he said in last weeks presser that he didn’t throw a four seamer all night….best quote EVAR by the way (I may have to sig it)…“So you were hitting 95 – 96 with your sinker? Carp: Ya.” (ya is said with the demeanor of a BMF)
Cutter as well, but not sure where that would slide into the equation as it’s often confused for his slider, and vice versa as I understand.
Also average would be exactly that…In my mind it seems like he’s around 93 all of the time, but takes some off at times, and blows it by guys at times.
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
by RiverRat on Aug 17, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw him the other day and whenever I looked up, I saw 95
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough....
I only get TV, and they seem kind of …meh about showing the speed all of the time.
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
by RiverRat on Aug 17, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks TNT
I knew I read that somewhere.
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
by RiverRat on Aug 17, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Recent exceptions to the rule
include Zack Greinke, Justin Verlander… you’re right that most pitchers peak young, but it’s usually young by major league terms, not young as in 18.
by DanUpBaby on Aug 17, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you give some more details?
I’ve always heard of Verlander as a high velocity guy.
Also, Greinke’s problems couldn’t have been doing him any favors.
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's Wikipedia's recounting of Verlander's story
Justin clocked 84 mph shortly after joining the academy. The velocity kept getting faster and it passed 93 when he entered Goochland High School. He had been a top pitching prospect in high school, but his career suffered a setback when he came down with strep throat early in his senior season of baseball. A weakened Verlander topped out at 86 during that season, causing professional scouts to lose interest. After he recovered, his velocity reached 100 during his first year at Old Dominion.
93 as a freshman is nothing to spit at, and fairly hard to beat.
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He AVERAGES 95 now, though (that'll include 2-seamers as well as his 4-seamer).
and regularly touches 100 in the late innings
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 18, 2009 5:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, seriously...
Shelby Miller is actually a lefty and he’s been throwing right all this time just to prove he can. He likes challenges and stuff. He’ll hit 101 next season…lefty. Book it!
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 17, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he uses his left
over too quickly
by brackenthebox on Aug 17, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say if he isn't throwing for us in the
playoffs this year….DFA him. If he can’t contribute for that kind of money, just ship him out now.
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
by RiverRat on Aug 17, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly the best part of this news
Is that the Cardinals continue to accumulate young guys with unusual first names. Looking forward to seeing Colby and Shelby in action together.
by mojowo11 on Aug 17, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i heard they are going to race cars together during the off season
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 17, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
They live their lives 1/4 at a time.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Aug 17, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
by effin fisk on Aug 17, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That was hilarious.
And I give you a rec for your efforts.
by mojowo11 on Aug 17, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
awesome article.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 18, 2009 5:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait a minute,
Shelby- Cobra? That could be an interesting duo.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 17, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey everybody
what’s the deal with the cheap astros-cards tickets? is there a promo code i have to enter?
by adiueordie on Aug 17, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nah
during the last two series they did a thing where for every cards’ win during the reds and pads series, they would deduct $4 from the ticket price. they won all but one of those games, so tickets are $4
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Aug 17, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Cardinals are doing their part for the economy
now bake more pies
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 17, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't forget the triple chocolate chunk fudge brownies with powered sugar
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by gdm426 on Aug 18, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
woot
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Aug 17, 2009 6:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Off-topic
Is tonight’s game on ESPN2?
by Cedar Plank on Aug 17, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yep
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 17, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you
This might be a dumb question too, but I’m going to throw it out there….
I live in Chicago. There’s a Cubs game on at the same time as the Birds game. The Birds shouldn’t be blacked out right? Blackouts are usually just for when the home team is on a local channel and a national channel?
by Cedar Plank on Aug 17, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, also
Note that the last Cubs game on ESPN wasn’t blacked out locally. It was on Comcast Sports net. I don’t really understand the rules.
by sdrone on Aug 17, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't either
Here’s hoping when I turn on ESPN2 at 9:00 it’s not Football’s Greatest Groin Inuries
by Cedar Plank on Aug 17, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That happens a lot here in Chicago
ESPN will end up showing ESPN News, while another local channel has the Cubs. Not sure why.
by mojowo11 on Aug 17, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good luck getting to watch it
because there is a Little League game on ESPN2 before it and I’ve noticed that those stupid games run over by about 30 minutes.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really want to watch it
Not just to see Carp and the Cards in an important series, but because it’s always good fun to watch a knuckleballer
by Cedar Plank on Aug 17, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I can help with this. . .
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Aug 17, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget theplastic bags!
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 17, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think I've figured the nuances out
What info did azruavatar post? I just see the subject line :\
by Cedar Plank on Aug 17, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The kids running down the hall by his hotel room
disappeared mysteriously.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm out of plastic bags. You?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 17, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The subject line is all there is
The dastardly deeds are implied only. Use your imagination. Picture a robot killing children.
by mojowo11 on Aug 17, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would it look like the album cover
of Queen’s News of the World album?
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 17, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a perfect pic for azru but I can't get it to come up.
How do I do this on here?
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 17, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something along the lines
of azru hates kids I believe.
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
by RiverRat on Aug 17, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone actually like the LLWS?
Let me rephrase…the LLWS as covered by ESPN? I guess it’s kind of cute watching 105 pound kids swing bats that sometimes look as big as they do…but for weeks on end? That’s not even the worst part…the announcers analyze the games like they’re doing an MLB game. “I’m not sure why Timmy the Tooth’s dad didn’t bunt there.” “Little Stevie Thompson needs to mix in his curveball a bit more.” “Johnny the Swinger needs to do better turning the DP” and so on and so forth. Drives me nuts. Gotta love the WWL…taking a bunch of kids playing a game that is supposed to be fun for them and hyping it like it’s the daggone MLB playoffs. Not cool.
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 17, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's a gigantic embarrassment
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't the game at that level supposed to be fun...
…and not about getting on TV and making money for the Evil Empire of Sports Mediadom? I mean, if the truly talented kids want to play lots and lots of games, go for it…but the second it becomes about something more than having fun and getting better at the game, a line has been crossed.
"I know how the numbers work. I know how OBP works. I know all the numbers that will never be printed in the newspaper. They're slowly working their way on to major league scoreboards. But, how the game really works, it's not what you see out there, and it’s not about short term emotions in games. It's numbers behind numbers… it's how the game works."--Brian Bannister
by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 17, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What drives me crazy (the most) are the maniacally screaming fans
This clearly isn’t about the kids playing ball and just having fun.
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hate the parents more than i hate the kids
stupid fucking helicopter parents
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by gdm426 on Aug 18, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the Frosted Flakes ads.
And…. that might be about it. Poor kids.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 17, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know this
And I give you many thanks for this info.
by mojowo11 on Aug 17, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey mattyfrommo
You’re on the front page of sporcle!
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Aug 17, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
6-ly?
I knew I would make the big time one day!
All the ladies say I am a mentally stimulating diversion, I guess they are right!
"Ludwick, I could kiss you on the nuts!" - the red baron 7-29-09
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 17, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mentally stimulating = "you have a nice personality"
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Aug 17, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"you have a nice personality" = no chance in hell I will sleep with you
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
by RiverRat on Aug 17, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well you guys really know how to bring a guy down
that’s it, I don’t love everyone on here anymore!
"Ludwick, I could kiss you on the nuts!" - the red baron 7-29-09
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 17, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"no chance in hell I will sleep with you" = "I have this great friend I want you to meet. She has a great personality too."
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Aug 17, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"She has a great personality too." = "She's fat."
Cards, Colts, and Pacers - Baseball, football, and basketball or gambling, guns, and old cars?
by JPBarnett on Aug 17, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I have this great friend I want you to meet. She has a great personality too." = She's so Psycho
Regan takes notes.
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
by RiverRat on Aug 17, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Signing Shelby Miller makes me happy
I have a warm bubbly feeling inside…That’s not weird, is it?
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 17, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
rum gives me the same feeling
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by gdm426 on Aug 18, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man it feels cold out there today in STL
I just had to go grab a hoodie
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 17, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you get caught in that hailstorm?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby
by stlwcards on Aug 17, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about that rain storm?
TESS of rain.
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 17, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Bulger = Broken Pinkie Out 2-3 weeks.
As if anyone cares about the Rams.
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey...I do(sorta)
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby
by stlwcards on Aug 17, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Current starter is now Kyle Fraggin' Boller.
That’s what I heard on the radio anywho.
"I know how the numbers work. I know how OBP works. I know all the numbers that will never be printed in the newspaper. They're slowly working their way on to major league scoreboards. But, how the game really works, it's not what you see out there, and it’s not about short term emotions in games. It's numbers behind numbers… it's how the game works."--Brian Bannister
by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 17, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least we'll get the first pick this year.
who’s available?
by stlfan on Aug 17, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh!
Sam Bradford or Tim Tebow or Colt McCoy!
by stlfan on Aug 17, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tebow!
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tebow?
If we get the first pick it damn sure better be McCoy
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby
by stlwcards on Aug 17, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys think the Rams will suck bad enough
to get the first pick? Am I delusional for thinking we make a run at mediocrity this year? (I don’t mean mean achieve mediocrity, just knock on mediocrity’s door, with 5-6 wins.)
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by Gregatron on Aug 17, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
but if we suck we might as well be the best at it
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby
by stlwcards on Aug 17, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
the Lions kicked our asses in that regard last year.
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by Gregatron on Aug 17, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How dare you doubt the Lions
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Aug 17, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who in the hell is Charlie Haeger?
Just awesome! The team starts playing great and now they have to run into a unknown righty. It just isn’t fair! I suppose there is always tomorrow.
"Ludwick, I could kiss you on the nuts!" - the red baron 7-29-09
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 17, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and a knuckleballer at that...gah!
"Ludwick, I could kiss you on the nuts!" - the red baron 7-29-09
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 17, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He throws a knuckball if that helps....
so our offense should be good and F’d up for the next month or so.
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
by RiverRat on Aug 17, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was a good run while it lasted, right?
"Ludwick, I could kiss you on the nuts!" - the red baron 7-29-09
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Aug 17, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good night to play Ank
thursty, Kaheel, LaRue…..the fewer regulars that have to get their swings messed up by a knucklballer, the better IMO.
/doesn’t really want to see that lineup.
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
by RiverRat on Aug 17, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you were right about Dick
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Aug 18, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's gotten smacked around
when he was with the White Sox.
by sdrone on Aug 17, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh crap.
Then we are really in for a long night.
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by Gregatron on Aug 17, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't watch espn2, moo
They’re showing Jason Marquis in Little League, and he’s on the phone.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 17, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
7:42 CT
and the LL game goes into the bottom of the SECOND INNING/
No way they get 7 innings in in the next hour and 10 minutes.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fuckin' AL
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 17, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they only play 6 though
right? Hope for ten runs.
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
by RiverRat on Aug 17, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even still
we have 50 minutes left and they haven’t started the 4th inning.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that grandma is going to kill somebody
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 17, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would they preempt for that?
Surely not. If so I guess I can tolerate Dan and Al for an inning or two.
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by Gregatron on Aug 17, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They can't leave live programming for other live programming
unless you are in a home market. It’s like a broadcasting rule.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 17, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those little booger eaters should
hurry the hell up then!
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by Gregatron on Aug 17, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then explain to me why, in the 4th quarter of Auburn's 2007 opening game against Kansas State
ESPN decided to leave the football game to live coverage of Clay Buchholz throwing a no-hitter? IN THE STATE OF ALABAMA?! There is nothing bigger in Alabama than UA/AU football. Clay Buchholz throwing a no-hitter (in the regular season, no less) was cool enough, but not at the expense of a tight football game in its home market!
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Aug 17, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that that was probably a poor decision
But I would definitely have been overjoyed, even if I was a UA or AU fan. Baseball is just that much more important than football in my book.
by mojowo11 on Aug 17, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That, my friend
Is where we differ. Especially since it was a baseball team I not only don’t care about, but also completely loathe.
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Aug 17, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think no-nos are that much of a big deal
a perfect game, maybe, but an out-of-market no-no? That must happen once or twice a year…
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 18, 2009 5:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Moo. Turn it to ESPN2
It’s about how this little kid loves cows. You’ll love it!
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by Gregatron on Aug 17, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are these little kids dumb?
Or do they just wanna become mediocre pitchers? All of their favorite players are Jason Marquis.
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by The_teague on Aug 17, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aim low
And you won’t be disappointed.
I'm dumb, she's a lesbian. I thought I had found the one.
We were good as married in my mind, but married in my mind's no good.
Pink triangle on her sleeve let me know the truth.
by thepainguy on Aug 17, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's Staten Island pride.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 17, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLBN talking draft signings
The guy who really needs to come back to earth is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch. by Not Bruce Froemming BCB
by RiverRat on Aug 17, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lineups per Yahoo
S. Schumaker 2b
B. Ryan ss
A. Pujols 1b
M. Holliday lf
R. Ludwick rf
R. Ankiel cf
M. DeRosa 3b
Y. Molina c
C. Carpenter p
R. Furcal ss
O. Hudson 2b
A. Ethier rf
M. Ramirez lf
C. Blake 3b
M. Kemp cf
J. Loney 1b
B. Ausmus c
C. Haeger p
(apologies if these were already posted…)
I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.
by madding on Aug 17, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damn i was just about to hit post lol
....my quick smells like french toast...
by mstreeter06 on Aug 17, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just went to look thinking "I hope Corky is starting"
Then i thought “of course he will be, he hit a walko… GD!”
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
by Smokin Turkeys on Aug 17, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't he sit
the last time he clubbed a walk-off?
Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...
by giveml on Aug 17, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of which
when’s the game thread going up?
by stlfan on Aug 17, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are there ANY teams other than the dodgers that have a 1b who bats 7th?
crazy. i don’t know how he stays employed. we get to see if ausmus can pick the knuckler.
no cory ransom makes me sad; that really was a “walk off and go sit on the bench” homer.
boog starting is good. is this the first time lugo hasn’t started in a long time?
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by tom s. on Aug 17, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boog's going to start or have a lot of playing time
TLR’s hometown discount.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 17, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cody Rasmuchas Gracias getting an off day?
Figured he would get one.
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by The_teague on Aug 17, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see Kemp is making his way slowly up the lineup
Shame. He was so good in the 8-hole.
by mojowo11 on Aug 17, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course
Colby hits a walkoff, he gets the next day off. Brilliant!
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Aug 17, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pregame has begun
looks windy
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 17, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it's Corey!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 17, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Cat is asking after his hernia
smooooooth
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 17, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i now know more about Colby's esophagus than i ever wanted
He was just eating late. Don’t panic.
Colby just LOL’d at the Cat. Good on ya.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 17, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Colby <3s DeRosa
He’s a “clubhouse character”. Which is more colorful language than I’ve seen from Corky in a long while.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 17, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Top'o'the'5th in the LLWS game
I am so hating this right now…
by mojowo11 on Aug 17, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think they only play 6?
if the home team is leading, I bet it’ll be over before first pitch.
I’m taping the Dodgers TV broadcast to watch at home when I am off work so I can hear Vin, assuming he’s doing the game.
I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.
by madding on Aug 17, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol one of the kids just dropped an audible F-bomb
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by The_teague on Aug 17, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heart ESPN360.
That is all.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Aug 17, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind, I hate ESPN360.
Frickin’ blackouts.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Aug 17, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
At least it’s a place to watch baseball when I decide not to blow money on watching 1/32 of the games :P
Man, with this outfield, need to get rid of that Rasmus, no Ankiel, wait no, Rasmus wait...uhhhh
by Taskmaster on Aug 18, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great win tonight! got to see the end of the game at the bar (25 cent carribean wing night)
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