RHRUI v. St. Louis Cardinals
Judge Birdos: Please be seated (in your parents’ basement!). This case is Right Handed Relievers Union International v. St. Louis Cardinals. Arguing on behalf of the Union will be Mr. chuckb. Mr. b – you may proceed.
Mr. b: Thank you, your honor. Your honor, the Cardinals are presently in first place in the NL Central. Their rotation is stout, their offense is improving, and their defense is serviceable. Ryan Franklin has been a pleasant surprise in the closer’s role and the team has 2 solid left handed relievers. They have their best chance since 2006 to make the playoffs and make a strong run once they get there. With that in mind, the team must fortify the right side of their bullpen as it is, right now, their biggest area of need. It may be the one area that, failing a strong Cubs run, could prevent the team from making the playoffs or from succeeding once they get there.
Judge Birdos: Arguing on behalf of the Cardinals will be Mr. Bill De-wallet….excuse me, DeWitt. Mr. DeWitt, would you care to make an opening statement at this time?
Mr. DeWitt: Yes, your honor. The Cardinals have already added more than $6.5 M to its payroll in order to make a postseason run. Jason Motte and Kyle McClellan are young pitchers who have had some success in their major league careers. I feel confident in their abilities to get batters out over the last month and a half of the regular season and in the postseason. Besides, the rotation has been so strong, and Franklin and the lefties have been so strong, Motte and McClellan are likely to only be called upon to get a couple of batters at a time. There’s really no need to give up prospects or GOD FORBID!!!! extra dollars in order to add a reliever whose responsibility would extend to just a couple of batters. Finally, Blake Hawksworth has been sensational in relief over the last few weeks and he gives Manager La Russa a third option already on the roster should Motte or McClellan prove they can’t handle the job.
Judge Birdos: Mr. b – you may call your first witness.
Mr. b: Your honor – I call John Smoltz to the stand.
Bailiff: Please raise your right arm. Do you solemnly swear that that arm can get hitters out and can help the Cardinals win their division and win postseason series, so help you God?
Mr. Smoltz: I do.
Mr. b: Mr. Smoltz, many baseball observers believe that your career is effectively over after being dfa’d by the Red Sox. Could you please tell us in your own words ...
Mr. Smoltz: What do you mean "in my own words?" Whose words do you think they would be?
Mr. b: Could you please tell us why you believe you are still able to get major league hitters out?
Mr. Smoltz: This year I’m striking out 7.43 batters per 9 innings and only walking 2.03 batters per 9 innings. My K/BB ratio of 3.67 is better than my career K/BB ratio. Batters only have an 18.1 % LD rate against me this year and my ground ball rate is a respectable 42.8%. My fastball is still averaging more than 91 mph and I also throw a curve, a slider, a change up, and a splitter.
Mr. b: Isn’t it true that batters are hitting .341 against you? In fact, aren’t batters' slash stats .341/.384/.541?
Mr. Smoltz: That’s true but I’ve been a victim of terrible luck. My BABIP is an unsustainably high .390. Considering my respectable line drive rate, it should be closer to the league average of .300. Also, my HR/FB rate is 14.8%. Again, it’s unsustainably high. In a more pitcher friendly ballpark w/ better luck, that rate will be much closer to league average.
Mr. b: What is your current FIP?
Mr. Smoltz: 4.93. I know it’s not great, but it’s much better than my ERA.
Mr. b: Mr. Smoltz, you’ve been a starter most of this season but would be coming to the Cardinals in order to relieve, is that correct?
Mr. Smoltz: I’m going to do whatever they ask me to in order to help the ballclub.
Mr. b: Well said. You’ve seen Bull Durham!
Mr. DeWitt: Objection, your honor! What’s the relevance of this? If it’s to show that Smoltz pitches like Nuke LaLoosh, never mind!
Mr. b: Mr. Smoltz, what are batters’ slash stats against you the first time through the order?
Mr. Smoltz: .250/.343/.312. That’s an OPS of .655.
Mr. b: .655? What are their slash stats on pitches 1-25?
Mr. Smoltz: .257/.395/.286. That’s an OPS of .681.
Mr. b: What are batters’ OPSes in your first 2 innings of work?
Mr. Smoltz: .705 and .464.
Mr. b: .464? That’s Chris Carpenter’s level, isn’t it?
Mr. Smoltz: He wishes!
Mr. b: Have you ever heard of xFIP ? If so, please tell the court what it is.
Mr. Smoltz: It’s basically a predictor of a pitcher’s future ERA based on his peripheral statistics.
Mr. b: What is your xFIP right now?
Mr. Smoltz: 4.37 – in the American League. That’s better than league average.
Mr. b: Do you know if ZIPS has run a projection of your FIP for the remainder of the season?
Mr. Smoltz: They have. It’s 3.65.
Mr. b: Your witness, Billy Boy!
Mr. DeWitt: Mr. Smoltz, what is your current ERA?
Mr. Smoltz: 8.35
Mr. DeWitt: 8.35? Is that in pesos?
Mr. b: Objection!
Judge Birdos: Sustained! Quit being a dick, DeWitt!
Mr. DeWitt: I apologize, your honor. How many homers have you given up this year, Mr. Smoltz?
Mr. Smoltz: 8
Mr. DeWitt: 8…in how many innings, 150? 160?
Mr. Smoltz: 40
Mr. DeWitt: 40? That’s fewer innings than years you’ve been alive! Sweet Fancy Moses! Mr. b already mentioned your slash stats. What was that OPS against?
Mr. Smoltz: (ahem!) (inaudible)
Mr. DeWitt: Could you please repeat that? I’m not sure they heard you down in their parents’ basement.
Mr. Smoltz: .968!!!!!!!!
Mr. DeWitt: What is your current contract status?
Mr. Smoltz: I’m owed $35,000 for every day I’m on the active roster and another $500,000 if I’m on the roster on October 4. That comes to about $2.3 M if I become a Cardinal today.
Mr. DeWitt: And the team would have to give up prospects in order to trade for you, correct?
Mr. Smoltz: Right now, that’s the case. I was dfa’d about 6 days ago but after 10 days I become a free agent.
Mr. DeWitt: I’m done w/ this witness, your honor.
Judge Birdos: You may step down, Mr. Smoltz. You may call your next witness, Mr. b.
Mr. b: I’d like to call Justin Speier to the stand.
Bailiff: Please raise your right arm. Do you solemnly swear that that arm can get hitters out and can help the Cardinals win their division and win postseason series, so help you God?
Mr. Speier: I do.
Mr. b: Mr. Speier, you were just released outright by the Rancho Cucamonga Angels of Oxnard, is that correct?
Mr. Speier: Actually, it’s the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.
Mr. b: My mistake. Thank you. Could you please tell us why you believe you are still able to get major league hitters out?
Mr. Speier: I’m striking out 8.78 batters per 9 innings and only walking 3.38 batters per 9. My fastball averages more than 90 mph and ZIPS projects my FIP to be 4.36 the rest of the season. I’m crushing right handed hitters. Their slash stats against me are a ridiculous .239/.290/.359. My xFIP is 4.48…in the American League!
Mr. b: Not too bad. Anaheim Stadium favors hitters as well, doesn’t it?
Mr. Speier: It does. Its multi-year park factor for pitchers is 102 whereas Busch Stadium’s is 99. I realize my HR/9 and HR/FB have been relatively high, but I’ve been playing for the Angels for 3 years and this year my road OPS against is 140 points lower than my home OPS against.
Mr. b: And the Angels released you? It’s outrageous! Outlandish! Preposterous! Your witness, DeWit…less!
Mr. DeWitt: ERA?
Mr. Speier: 5.18
Mr. DeWitt: HR/9?
Mr. Speier: 1.58. But that’s in a…
Mr. DeWitt: Yes, we know. A hitter’s park. Got it. Any hitters’ parks in the National League?
Mr. Speier: Probably a few, but I’m a deity against righties!
Mr. DeWitt: Any good left handed hitters in the NL?
Mr. Speier: I suppose so, but w/ Miller and Reyes, Mr. La Russa wouldn’t need me to pitch to many of them.
Mr. DeWitt: That’s quite a sales pitch you’ve got there. I wouldn’t use that line when you introduce yourself to Tony. "Hi. I’m Justin Speier. Please, Mr. La Russa don’t let me pitch to any lefties!"
Mr. b: Your honor, is there any call to have Mr. Speier spoken to in such a manner?
Judge Birdos: Oh pipe down, Francis! It’s not like he’s headed to the Hall of Fame! He’s made tons of money playing a game you and I would play for free and all that other stuff.
Mr. b: Duly noted, your honor.
Mr. DeWitt: Line drive rate?
Mr. Speier: For my career, it’s 18.6%.
Mr. DeWitt: And this year?
Mr. Speier: 20.8%
Mr. DeWitt: Then your .334 BABIP isn’t necessarily a product of bad luck, is it?
Mr. Speier: I’d call it bad luck that I haven’t had the good fortune of being able to pitch to National League hitters in a pitcher-friendly ballpark such as your beautiful new stadium. And have I mentioned what a nice tie you’re wearing, Mr. DeWitt? And I’ll add that I’ve been more effective against righties, even in the tougher league and the tougher ballpark, than your very own Kyle McClellan and Jason Motte.
Mr. DeWitt: Ha!
Mr. Mozeliak (sitting at Mr. DeWitt’s table): Ummm...It’s true.
Mr. DeWitt: It is? Is this thing (points to microphone) on? Dammit, boy! Didn’t I tell you to cover that thing when you spoke to me?
Mr. Mozeliak: I’m sorry, Bill.
Mr. DeWitt: (ahem!)
Mr. Mozeliak: I mean… I’m sorry, Mr. DeWitt, sir. It’ll never happen again.
Mr. DeWitt: Is this thing still on???!!!!!! No more questions for this witness!!!
Judge Birdos: Mr. b?
Mr. b: Your honor, I call Eduardo Sanchez to the stand.
Bailiff: Who?
Mr. Speier: Who?
Mr. Smoltz: Who?
Mr. DeWitt: Who?
Mr. Mozeliak: Who?
Mr. Luhnow (sitting next to Mr. Mozeliak): He pitches for Springfield.
Mr. DeWitt: Isn’t that where Homer Simpson lives?
Mr. Luhnow: Ummm…that’s a different Springfield, sir.
Bailiff: Do you?
Mr. Sanchez: Si.
Mr. b: Mr. Sanchez, could you please tell the court what your peripheral stats are for the Springfield Cardinals?
Mr. Sanchez: I’m striking out 10.70 batters per 9 innings and only walking 3.16 per 9 innings. My HR/9 is just 0.73 in a hitter’s park in a hitter’s league. I’m currently getting ground balls 44.4 % of the time.
Mr. b: How about your raw stats?
Mr. Sanchez: Batters are currently hitting just .164 against me. My ERA is 2.43 and my FIP is just 3.15.
Mr. b: What about your stuff? Would you say you have pretty good stuff on the mound?
Mr. Sanchez: Is the guy on the Dos Equis’ commercials the most interesting man in the world? Hell, yes, I have good stuff. It’s not uncommon for me to bring it – my fastball, I mean – in the upper 90s. Mr. Mozeliak could verify that. He saw me pitch less than a week ago.
Mr. DeWitt: Is this true, boy???!!!! I thought you were scouting some hot right handed pitcher, not playing grab-ass w/ 20 year olds in the beer leagues!
Mr. Mozeliak: But I was scouting…
Mr. DeWitt: Shut up, boy! Who asked you to speak?
Judge Birdos: Order in the court! Could you two misfits please STFU? This thread’s long enough as it is! This ain’t no Wednesday morning, you know!
Mr. R. Baron: Hey! I resent that. That kind of remark is completely uncalled for in light of the …
Judge Birdos: Quiet in the gallery! You were saying, Mr. Sanchez?
Mr. Sanchez: Que?
Mr. b: In fairness, though, Mr. Sanchez – that is in AA. It’s not exactly the majors in the middle of a pennant race, is it?
Mr. Sanchez: How would I know? It’s the minor leagues.
(Everyone in the court has a puzzled look on his face.)
Mr. Sanchez: As I was saying, certain sites figure out their minor league translations – how my stats project to the majors if I was given a chance to play today – and mine are muy bueno!
Mr. b: You spend a lot of time in your parents' basement, don't you?
Mr. Sanchez: I spend a lot of time in the bullpen waiting for the 9th inning of a Texas League game to arrive!
Mr. b: How bueno are they...the stats, I mean?
Mr. Sanchez: Baseball Prospectus shows my MLE PERA to be 3.88. Minorleaguesplits has also done some MLEs and they have my FIP as being 4.43. In other words, I could step in today and do an admirable job in the Cards’ pen. They project my batting average against to be .179 and project me to strike out 8.59 batters per 9 innings while only walking 4.42 batters per 9.
Mr. b: Those are projections, though, right? I mean, you’ve never gotten anyone out at the major league level?
Mr. Sanchez: No, but neither had Francisco Rodriguez before being called up in a pennant race in 2002. In fact, he pitched fewer than 6 major league innings before dominating in the playoffs. The Cards’ very own Josh Kinney had only pitched 25 innings before being great in the playoffs in 2006.
Mr. b: What would it cost the team in order to add you to the roster?
Mr. Sanchez: Very little. They would just have to pay me the major league minimum and then I could start dominating.
Mr. b: No further questions, your honor.
Mr. DeWitt: Mr. Sanchez, you’re how old?
Mr. Sanchez: 20
Mr. DeWitt: You can’t even drink, can you? I mean…legally. What I mean to say is, what if we added you to the roster, you couldn’t even have any victory champagne, could you?
Mr. Sanchez: Doesn’t that just leave more for the other guys and Tony?
Mr. DeWitt: Smart ass, punk! And that’s Mr. La Russa to you, boy! Don’t you know he likes vets anyway?
Mr. Sanchez: Yes, I know that animals are very important to him.
Mr. DeWitt: Huh?
Mr. Sanchez: Huh?
Mr. DeWitt: Have you ever gotten a major league hitter out?
Mr. Sanchez: No. I think we’ve already established that.
Mr. DeWitt: You’re currently pitching at AAA – the minor leagues, right?
Mr. Sanchez: It’s actually AA … for Springfield.
Mr. DeWitt: AA? That’s one less A! You’re younger than that Cory Remus kid that keeps taking Ankiel’s spot in the outfield! How do you expect to get big league hitters out?
Mr. Sanchez: With my high 90s fastball and otherwise explosive stuff!
Mr. DeWitt: I have no more questions. I rest my case.
Mr. b: So do I, your honor.
Judge Birdos: Closing statements?
Bailiff: I’d like to say that…
Judge Birdos: Not you, dumbass!
Mr. R. Baron: … and I should add that I’m really not all that verbose, it’s just that there’s a lot to say and …
Mr. b: The Cards need to make a move. I’ve presented 3 pretty good options from which to choose. All of them, I believe, can get big league hitters out right now and be better options than either McClellan or Motte going forward. Yes, I know that Smoltz is older than dirt and that Sanchez is younger than Rasmus looks and that Speier is…well, Justin Speier but any of the 3 would be better than what we’ve got. When we traded for Matt Holliday, giving up our best prospect and a pitcher w/ solid potential, we made the decision to go for it. It’s silly to allow a gaping hole in the pen to fester when there are options available.
Mr. DeWitt: I’ve said all I have to say. It’s time for my sponge bath! Get my briefcase, boy!
Mr. Mozeliak. Yes, Mr. DeWitt, sir.
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This is for Spants
fist
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
by RiverRat on Aug 13, 2009 1:20 AM EDT reply actions 12 recs
your fist is for spants?
um
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Aug 13, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Oh, my.
That’s pretty shocking, even for the internet.
And you’re certainly not helping Alex make his case for Spants and her husband to come get drunk and “party” with a bunch of people she knows from the internet and apparently have a fist for her.
I've made a huge tiny mistake.
by the red baron on Aug 13, 2009 4:06 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
that’s all i got.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I had a nightmare last night around 4am.
Couldn’t go back to sleep, so I reached for my BlackBerry and went to VEB.
Made me wonder if I was still having a bad dream.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I LOLed for real
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
LOL - actually really lol'ed.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 13, 2009 5:11 AM EDT up reply actions
This was the first thing that popped in my head
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 13, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
POW
right in the kissa
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
I'll be honest
The thought that a fist could be used for punching didn’t even cross my mind till that picture. Soooo I’m corrupted.
Not afraid to nitpick
yeah
it definitely wasn’t the first thing i though of either
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
I will have you all know
that this has nothing to do with the gutter your minds are wandering.
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
This might be the greatest site on the entire internets.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
wow
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 13, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh come on
One more rec and it’s green!
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Aug 13, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
And I oblige
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby
You're lucky you aren't coming to VEB day.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I know.
Or maybe you’re unlucky. I’d totally roofie you and put you in a tutu and a tiara.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
You wouldn't have to roofie me to get me to wear that
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Aug 14, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Now I'm bummed you won't be there!
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Me too
But I will be at the Sept. 12 game vs. the Braves if anyone wants to meet up! No? Okay then.
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Aug 14, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
release either welly or pk
call up eduardo
tomorrow
oh and lol
Mr. DeWitt: Mr. Smoltz, what is your current ERA?
Mr. Smoltz: 8.35
Mr. DeWitt: 8.35? Is that in pesos?
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
+1 on "Pesos" and "Francis
this post made my day. Also enjoyed the good natured RB ribbing. Hilarious.
youneverknow
There is nothing better on the internets
when we can project our opinions of others onto them in these made up dialogues.
Bravo.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 13, 2009 1:33 AM EDT reply actions
Plus
I thought you were going a different direction with that ‘saving more champagne for Tony’.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 13, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I decided to be a little more subtle about it
so as not to create any anger but I definitely included Tony for a reason.
I was a prosecuting attorney one county north of Jupiter when TLR..you know...
What i would have given to have him on my docket…
“Your honor, Mr TLR is charged with operating a rotation with a starting pitcher ERA above 5.67”
“on the charge he was arrested for…well we’ve worked out a plea deal..in exchange for inaudible and a promise of never doing it again, State will drop all charges.”
On TLR’s way out the door…“Mr. La Russa, whose going to call me about those lifetime season tix in the Cardinals dugout.”
The daily thread is up and baseball is on
it’s just like Wednesdays but instead of it being a day game, it is the Mariners still trying to beat the White Sox in the 14th inning.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 13, 2009 1:36 AM EDT reply actions
Great post!
I love this style of post! My favorite part was the shot at red baron.
I would love to see what Sanchez could do at the ML level. I live in the springfield area and I’ve seen him pitch. His arm is electric.
I can’t justify paying over 2 M for Smoltz. Speier would be ok, I guess, but I would try to take a flyer on Sanchez first.
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
The thing is, we don't have to pay Smoltz
at that point, I don’t believe. Once he becomes a FA, they can work out whatever money situation they want.
I would prefer Sanchez over Smoltz but I know Tony doesn’t want that. He’s had enough of these young fireballers. Don’t make him trade them for another utility infielder. Didn’t he smack you in the mouth hard enough last time?
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 13, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
add in
proven closer. proven winner, proven vet. what else is there to prove?
Seriously. He could slot into the 8th inning. Everyone else drops an inning. There is as much chance that the vs LHB is an issue Duncan can fix as it is just being old. The BPIP almost has to come back to earth.
I wonder what his numbers vs LHB’s are in the first 25 pitches? Are they teeing off all the time or just 2nd and 3rd time through
but once he becomes a free agent
anyone can negotiate w/ him. If we trade for him, we have the exclusive rights to him.
indeed...
so it is entirely possible that he comes for the pro-rated league minimum. You have to consider the following with Smoltz:
—it’s not about the money
—it’s about winning
—he would surely wish to get back to the nl
—he won’t go back to the braves, or any nl east team…so i’d think
—he doesn’t seem like the west-coast type
It seems like we would be the perfect fit assuming he would accept an 8th inning role
I dabbled in pacifism once....not in 'Nam of course
"Hello Your Honour, sorry I'm a little late...
Things kind of got out of hand today since I’m now managing Juan Encarnacion’s senatorial campaign (I’ll tell you what—those Dominicans know how to rouse the ol’ rabble something fierce) so I am forced to submit my official statement in a condensed form of what it would have been, a quick 10,000 words or so, tops."
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Late Wednesday posting is a long tradition
and not to be mocked…
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
I think you can respect a tradition and still mock it.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
fair enough
I was making fun of myself there, more than anything.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Don't worry, I knew you weren't being totally 6.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
That's a remarkably good impression.
You even stuck a paranthetical aside in there. Nice. Sadly, I now feel as if I’ve become entirely too predictable in both my style (the old F. Scott Fitzgerald on an absinthe bender thing), and my posting habits (I prefer to think of it as ‘Renaissance craftsman late’, but unfortunately, my painfully hectic schedule in recent months has led to something more properly identified as ‘Ren and Stimpy late’), leading me to think perhaps a paradigm shift is in order for the Baron. Perhaps a William Burroughs approach, in which I take various pages from CardsTalk, shift the words around, and create something entirely new out of it.
And that’s how you write a paragraph by the Baron.
I've made a huge tiny mistake.
by the red baron on Aug 13, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
You could turn yourself into the VEB version of Hemingway.
The Cardinals were playing a game of baseball. It was raining. I watched from a clean, dry place. The old man sitting next to me leaned in and said he thought the team was good this year.
“Well I don’t know. I like them. I must say there is something truly damn fine about them.”
“Oh?” I said.
“I really like this team.”
“They are truly a likable team.”
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Aug 13, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Lose the "I said" and you're golden.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I went back and forth actually
I love those columns of dialogue with nothing but the text itself inside the quotation marks. I think you’re right, I should have left it out.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
So, you even labored like Hemingway.
I admire your “method” blogging.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Aug 13, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I also drank heavily and watched Youtube videos of bullfighting.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
No more guns for you, matty!
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Sounds like a tuesday.
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 13, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Have you ever noticed with those columns of dialogue
how often the writer seems to get off the mark with who is saying what? Not Hemingway, per se, but other, lesser, lights.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 13, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i hate that
faulkner is bad about it
seems to go pages without reminding you who is saying what
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
This deserves so many
recs.
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
faulknerize it!
i went down to the ballpark and they were hitting on it and there was wet on my cheek and they kept hitting on it and the skipper kept saying “loogy! loogy!” and i put my head down and the sound went away and then luster was there saying “hush you up! you aint gotta cry you big loony. they up 4 games on the cubbies.”
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Aug 13, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well-done.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
You're all going to miss me
when I pack up my word processor and go home, you know.
I've made a huge tiny mistake.
by the red baron on Aug 13, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, we all love you RB. very nice encarnacion scoop the other day.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
It'll be sometime late Thursday
when we finally figure out you left.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 13, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
If Smoltz really makes it to FA, I'm not sure there's anyone who needs him as much as we do.
15=/=25
isn't it funny
that now the two areas of need (which, admittedly, are not as dire as the previous ones) are rh relief and a lh bat?
every area of of need this year was priorly considered and area of great depth
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
did you just...
1. Use the word “priorly?”
2. Use the word “priorly” correctly?
3. I wish I had a tertiary comment to make.
i don't even know
if priorly is a word i’ve indulged in maybe a few too members of the st louis cardinals
you catch me
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
you used it right, now which members did you indulge in?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/priorly%20
–adjective
1. preceding in time or in order; earlier or former; previous: A prior agreement prevents me from accepting this.
2. preceding in importance or privilege.
–noun
3. Informal. a prior conviction.
—Idiom
4. prior to, preceding; before: Prior to that time, buffalo had roamed the Great Plains in tremendous numbers.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
They need to fix the SBN spellcheck then.
Because it keeps giving “priorly” the red underline. It recognizes “priory” though, so if anybody wants to start up a Benedictine monastery devoted to Cardinals baseball…
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
What spellcheck?
I use Firefox which spell checks for me but it recognizes priorly I didn’t think that SB had one too
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
Well sonuvagun
I guess that’s a Firefox feature then. This is pretty much the only website I view in Firefox in which I type stuff in the site itself, so I never realized it wasn’t an SBN feature. It doesn’t seem to spellcheck the subject line though, odd…
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
yeah
I need to figure out how the spell check works, but i beleive you can set it to spell check any field but right now it doesn’t check all of them….nvm just found it, right click in the subject and select “spell check this field”
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
BTW, this didn’t save properly and I had to do it each time, so found this article easy change to make it default for any field in firefox
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
yeah just recently
Chrome spell check has been checking the subject box. It is nice
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 13, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
or anyone who can make
As good a case to him or the sawx to make this deal.
To the sawx: the only folks who want him are a dwindling list of contenders. You don’t want to trade him in your division, or even your league. we’re also probably one of the only clubs willing to add salary.
To Smoltz: you are going to be respected in STL – if we’re going to have a vet-friendly manager, may as well make hay out of it. You can work with dave duncan on your pitches to make yourself a free agent candidate for a one year in 2010. and really, how many nl teams are better positioned for a serious WS run than us? If he wants to retire, we may offer the best chance to go out with a bang.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Aug 13, 2009 2:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
_claps_
/is held in contempt by the judge and spends the night in a holding cell.
FYI – Smoltz is the one with the appalling LH/RH splits. Ops against LHB is like 1.300 and his OPS against righties is about .550. I ran the numbers in a too-late reply to the smoltz thread on fangraphs. So smoltz in the rotation: Bad Idea Jeans. Smoltz in the bullpen picking up 2-3 outs at a time in between LHB: Very Good Idea Jeans.
NB – may not help us in the postseason much (see philadelphia phillies: left-handed hitters) but might help us get there.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Aug 13, 2009 2:03 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I would love to see any of the three, but......
Does Smoltz still throw five pitches? I know he did at one time and they were all plus. If he still does, would that pose a problem for Yadi? That’s alot of pitcher to learn in a very short period. I know Yadi is great working with pitchers and calling a game, but learning five pitches and Smoltz’s tendencies could be a learning process and we don’t have much time to tinker. Having said this… If anyone can do it Yadi can , but I would rather try, in this order, Sanchez, then Speier.
Yadi supposedly knows all the San Francisco pitchers
Just from playing them and talking to Bengie. He didn’t want to miss the line-up during the All-Star Game. He didn’t.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
In relief, it probably wouldn't make much sense for him to do that, anyway.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Smoltz...
… reportedly refused to move to Boston’s bullpen, and is seeking a starting job someplace else. that’s if he doesn’t retire.
i’m all for Speier, but Sanchez is a stretch. his stats are gaudy and his stuff is great, but he’s 20 years old and has 37 innings above A-ball (plus a .227 BABIP). i’d expect better results from Motte over the next two months than from Sanchez.
Yeah I am concerned about the Smoltz to the bullpen noises in Boston
and also heard he wasn’t keen on moving back to the pen.
That said, I wonder if it’s slightly apocryphal; Smoltz has pitched plenty in the pen for Atlanta in the past (different circumstances, I know), and I could actually see the possibility that the Sox just don’t have SPACE for the guy in their pen. They have 3-4 decent right-handed options, plus a lefty set-up guy who can pitch to righties. I wonder if the Sox maybe just want to dump the couple of million left on his contract in a trade, so DFAed him to try to make a move.
Also, I wouldn’t be aversed to trading for him, letting him take the remaining 8 starts (or whatever) that the #5 guy would make in our rotation, then moving him to the pen in the postseason. That way, we (possibly) fortify (or at least don’t hurt) our rotation, and can have him pitching to righties in the playoffs.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 13, 2009 5:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I could be wrong, but I thought that it was that Smoltz refused to be assigned to the minors, not that he didn’t want to go to the bullpen….
I wonder how this works exactly....
He can’t actually refuse to go to the bullpen if Boston wanted to use him there. How can Boston be expected to pay his salary if he refuses to pitch for them? And I doubt there is contractual language mandating that he be a starter or nothing else.
It seems more likely that Boston simply doesn’t want him at all.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 13, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
cmon, Motte. get it together man
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 13, 2009 2:26 AM EDT reply actions
yeah really.
I’m really, really, really, really hoping that Motte hasn’t gotten Duncan’d. Or, Dunc’d, as the parlance goes. The Sauce was the highlight of last year, and I look forward to it like I wait for Boog.
The thing is, I also get the feeling that Yadi is on board with whatever Duncan has in store for Motte… I’m afeared they’ve broken him. They’ve broken him, Ma!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Objection, Your Honor. Argumentative.
There were many highlights to last year. I don’t know that Mott was the highlight of those highlights.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
OBJECTION
that is one bright green page. my eyes, my eyes!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I know.
Isn’t that horrible? The baseball writers website really does offer an example at a subconscious level of their disdain for the internets, doesn’t it? I picture them formatting their website, muttering, “If any of those nerds want to read this in their mother’s basement, they are in for a surprise…TOXIC GREEN BACKGROUND! MUA HA HA HA HA HA!”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
OT:
My parents (and grandparents) are all in Heaven; I live in the Arkansas Delta — I don’t even have a basement (high water table, don’tcha know); and I’m reading (and posting) from my living room…
That said, that “toxic green background” is enough to make one’s eyes bleed!
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Aug 13, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Fuck.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 13, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
+100
It took me a a full two minutes for my eyes to adjust back to normal. That oughta be illegal or atleast come with a warning and disclaimer.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 13, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I should amend it
To my favorite surprise of last season. I mean, who saw Motte coming?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Of the 3
I would take Speier over the other 2
VS. RIGHT: .239 / .649
HOME: .278 / .861(Hitter’s Park)
AWAY: .275 / .722
(BA / OPS Against)
Those are pretty good stats to me. He was released, so we can theoretically sign him for the league minimum. Smoltz is too expensive for my tastes, despite his decent righty stats, and Sanchez is just too much of a gamble for me. Weren’t we saying the exact same things about Motte? electric fastball, etc.
Man, with this outfield, need to get rid of that Rasmus guy. :)
Sanchez is actually a pitcher,
but I see the appeal of Speier. He’s known for pitching up in the zone, however, so I’m not sure how well he’ll fit in with DD. Pitching down and more to contact would hopefully lower that awful HR/9 and HR/FB, but it could also kill his K rate or increase his BB rate, the two things propping him up into below-average-with-upside territory.
15=/=25
Speier is
much more of a FB pitcher than the other 2 and his career home/road splits aren’t as distinct as this year’s. Still, he could get a couple of righties out between the starter and Miller or Miller and Franklin.
Honestly, I'm not that worried about him getting a few lefties since he's not horrible against them per his career,
it’s more the last few years that his platoon split has become a ravine. Over that same period his HR/FB has exploded, so his approach probably needs to change in some fundamental way- lefties aren’t the only problem.
15=/=25
well done chuck
i honestly would be fine with any of the three options. if we do bring sanchez up though i would still like to get one of speier or smoltz. i hate the word “proven” and therefore will not use it but in this case i do feel that smoltz’s or speier’s experience might be very valuable. plus if they both make it through waivers we would only pay them league minimum anyways.
"Sorry about him, he's dealing with being an inker. " - Chasing Amy
Awesome post chuck
I actually enjoyed that more than a lot of the other “slightly comedic dialogue” posts we’ve had this year, because you make some pretty good points.
I’ve felt for a while that our RHRP is very weak. If (and I realise it’s only an IF) Franklinstein turns back into a pumpkin anytime soon, we’re pretty screwed unless Carp, Waino and Pineiro can pitch back-to-back-to-back CGs… Motte’s been a big disappointment, and I’d like to see him either start next year in AAA (to learn to throw a changeup) or spend some time in a winter league refining his stuff.
I think I’d give Eddy Sanchez a chance, but if Smoltz is available by the end of the week, I’d love to get him. I don’t think it even hurts to try both, although I’d be less keen to trade anything meaningful for Smoltz while he’s on waivers. I suppose if we have the $2m to pay the rest of his contract, we could offer them a non-prospect (as with the Duncan/Lugo trade) just to take him off their hands, maybe Shorey or someone.
I’d also have loved to get Russ Springer in the Holliday deal, and I really feel we should’ve held out for him too. I’d have felt the deal was a lot fairer if we got one of their relievers in return (Wuertz was also mentioned, obviously he’d have been an excellent add-in too). The most irritating thing is that the Rays got Springer on WAIVERS, and apparently Beane was asking for Boggs or another prospect for us to land him in the Holliday deal. We really should’ve just offered a mediocre prospect to get him when they waived him, maybe Salas or someone. His peripherals are still very good this year and he’s pitched well for us before (though I believe his success here was at least partly a mirage, he’s better than any other RHRP we have right now).
Hawksworth’s looked good so far, but I’m not sure I have the utmost confidence in him going forward. Motte’s only good facing the occasional right-hander (esp. when we need a K), and KMac’s merely average. I’d be more happy if our pen was Hawk (6th/ long relief), Motte (ROOGY), KMac (7th inning guy), NEW PITCHER (8th inning guy), Franklin (closer).
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
Getting a righty reliever in the Holliday deal
would have been like champagne at La Belle Aurore on the day the Nazis marched into Paris.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
the rays still would have had priority
right??….or am i all wrong on the waiver policy?
i’m sure mo pushed for a rhrp in the deal. nut, the last thing you want is to have the russ springer throw-in debate spiral into a deal breaker….we know what beane thinks of draft picks
I dabbled in pacifism once....not in 'Nam of course
TLR's call is hilarious
Got its own tab on SportsCenter.
Apparently someone pwns Don Tony.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
sadly it's gone from the morning rotation
The L.A. crew handled the entire highlight a million times better. It was a nice compare-contrast on how to work a count full and how not to, feat. Albert Pujols and Chris Carpenter.
In the morning it’s read like they’re all hung over and forgot how baseball works.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I think ESPN was only made aware
of there being baseball teams west of New York within the past 48 hours. They were probably just too dumbfounded to speak intelligently.
"It reminds us of all that once was good, and could be again." - Terence Mann.
by Futility Infielder on Aug 13, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
crap!
Those are just advertisements for East Coast teams to try to offer bloated contracts to our best players! Shut down the satellite.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 13, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
the phone call's back on SC
in the midday edition.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 13, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
What is this call?
I didn’t watch SC last night.
Tony took a call
during the Presser last night. Good TV.
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
you should try to catch it....
TLR took a phone call mid post-game press conference. His phone blew up a few times during the Q & A and someone made a comment about it. He then answered the next call and talked for probably a minute at least.
It was funny and nice to see that side of Tony, but I couldn’t help thinking “My god…the old man has really lost it!”
nah, he had an off-day the next day
He knew he’d catch hell if he didn’t answer. And since Aggie apparently made some of the arrangements, when he came back he’d catch hell from her. Now he has a record on national t.v. of playing nice and putting family before baseball, which has got to get him some points for good behavior.
It was a strange double-switch, but a necessary one.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I didn't watch it in the context
of the off-day today, so I guess I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. Dude has been in a pretty good mood (by TLR standards) since we got Holliday.
you don't know about the post-game thing with TLR?
He doesn’t call home when they lose.
When they win, he does.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Honestly, I didn't know that.
should’ve read Three Nights in August I guess. That would allow me to make sense of his post-game phone call AND his love for small sample size splits!
Crap.
no, you shouldn't have
the book sucks and is poorly written…but you SHOULD read A Well Paid Slave about Curt Flood and free agency. THAT is a great book.
+1 on Curt Flood book
every MLB player that gets a fat contract through free agency should be required to read it. Yours truly even wrote a song (“Curt Flood, a Mighty Man”) inspired by the book.
http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Cuts-Seventh-Inning-Stretch/dp/B0002CSARQ
/End shameless-self-plug
youneverknow
...uh huh
I have no great love for TLR, but if you’re gonna assume he’s lost it because he took a phone call, I’d like to direct you to some other managers who are clearly more senile.
It’s not like it was entirely opaque. He said outright, I have family coming in from Tampa.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Vote for Pedro
Yeah, I know he’s gone. But Smoltz is the Pedro equivalent. Chuck left out a huge advantage to grabbing Smoltz, and that is he has a HUGE amount of post-season experience. He’s not just a veteran – he’s a veteran that has thrown in a ridiculous number of high-pressure situations in September and October.
If he can be had for a reasonable cost (say $1.5M for the remainder of the year) then we take him. It’s a good risk.
$1.5MM for the rest of the year is not a reasonable cost.
Especially given the question marks surrounding Smoltz.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Yeah, thats a pretty hefty tag...
equivalent of a $5.3mil/year deal. I think the only way we get him is if the Sox are forced to just release him and eat his salary, allowing us to sign him for the pro-rated minimum. Gotta think Smoltz would garner some interest from a lot of clubs at that rate.
"I'll be glad to have Ryan [Braun] help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy." - Doug Melvin
You're exactly right.
And, I’ll add that the only way I want him is if the Sox are forced to eat his salary.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
and, preferably
some feces.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 13, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
keith law sayin' Smoltz is a ROOGY
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I'd like to see Sanchez get bumped up to AAA
if he continues to dominate then get him up to the big club before September 1
this just in!
Boog’s first time batting second. I am anxious but hopeful. Also, DeRo is hilarious.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Does TLR realize that Boog isnt a table setter?
He’s got a ~.320 OBP. Not too good. Then again, who on the Cardinals outside of Pujols and Holliday does have a good OBP?
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 13, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I suppose his is playable
As is to be expected Skip has been pretty good v. RHP.
.316/.378/.440/.817
And pretty atrocious v. LHP.
.210/.273/.235(gah!!!)/.507
Skippy simply should never play vs. lefties. The MIF in those situations should be Ryan at SS and Lugo at 2nd. Now against RHP…
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 13, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
well let's hope TLR realizes it
I never know if Boog does or not.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 13, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
See?!? See?!? It worked that one time!!!!
I’m right and you bloggers are wrong so suck it!!!
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 13, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
batting 2nd slash line vs Ryan's slash line
265/.316/.424/.740
-——-vs——————
286/.326/.381/.707
he’s about in line with what the 2-hole has been producing this year.
(his OBP is .363 at home. good Stache’ Mojo)
I always forget that Yadi is a solid hitter now
I guess his 2006 is still burned into my brain.
And besides…his good OBP is meaningless b/c he can’t run and he just clogs up the bases. That’s what Dusty Baker thinks and he’s got a career winning record so he must be right, right?
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 13, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
That was the strangest thing I've ever seen Dusty do...
…That’s saying something.
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 13, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
he batted Corey Patterson
in the leadoff spot for most of last season.
BTW, I’m not convinced the shift was such a bad idea. How many grounders to 2nd does Pujols really hit?
I tried to find the answer online but haven’t been able to find it yet. I’ll keep looking, though, b/c it should make for interesting discussion. I, too, think Baker’s an idiot but I don’t think that means that we should assume that everything he does is stupid.
check the spray charts at mlb.com
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
found them
It looks to me as though ol’ Dusty managed to get something right.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while!
wtf??
http://deadspin.com/5336293/stay-classy-cubs-fans-update
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"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
He got away, yup.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I'll be damned
I didn’t THINK the guy security took away was the beer tosser.
So it would seem obvious that the less-drunk guy who was REALLY REALLY anxious to turn the completely drunk guy over to security was probably the beer tosser.
it would cap this whole debacle
If that guy sued the Cubs.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
hey, is the culprit a hipster?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Hmm...
The true beer-tosser did have some pretty stupidly hip sunglasses clipped on his shirt collar. He might be a damn dirty hipster as well as an unsportsman-like scalawag.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
[writes this down]
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 13, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd just like to call attention to the fact that he is wearing a sweatband on his right arm
One that matches his shirt, sunglasses and hat.
That’s all. Didn’t want that to go un-noticed in the hipster vs. douchebag debate.
by Ray Lankford on Aug 13, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
The guy looking at him to his right's
expression is priceless. I think he’s in awe of the aforementioned hipster’s douchenozzle-ry.
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
I noticed that
But said gawker is also wearing some kind of headband or bandanna around his head. I’m not even sure how to categorize that yet. He may in fact be a douchey co-conspirator for all we know.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
are these the douche gangs of Wrigleyville?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
yes
blue balls vs the suburban whites
it gets pretty gruesome when they start singing show tunes
"when you're a douche, you're a douche all the way . . .
from your first tricked out civic to your last dying day. . . ."
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Aug 13, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 16 recs
If only there was a rumble
between the Douches and the Guidos
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
they're snapping their cellphones now
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I thought a Guido was just a leveled up Douche Bag
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by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 13, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I just thought it was a very specific kind
Maybe Hipsters vs. Guidos would be better.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
The circles in the Venn diagram definitely overlap
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Aug 13, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
concentric, if you will
"I'll be glad to have Ryan [Braun] help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy." - Doug Melvin
Thanks for that
now Amazon thinks I’m a douche.
You might also enjoy:
Catherine Wheel

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
that shit was amazing...
All the banzai bandanas and junk when Fukudome came up last year. I wonder what he really thought about it?
This sh*t is bandanas
B-A-N-D-A-N-A…S
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
probably just thought it was stupid
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 13, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
"Why didn't I think of that?"
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Aug 13, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I was wondering what Ben Stiller was doing
in the crowd…
Mer-MAN!!! Mer-MAN!!!
"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 13, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
From Kevin Goldstein's twitter
@kingclip
Frankly surprised that things like the Victorino incident don’t happen more — douchbag ratio in the bleachers at Wrigley is off the charts
Pretty much FML any time -Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball.- Joe Thurston runs the bases.
by Cardinals645 on Aug 13, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
armband = douchebag
definitely not a hipster, btw.
by yomarktvraps on Aug 13, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
what if he got the arm band at goodwill?
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by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 13, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
what if it's organic cotton handmade by recovering heroin addicts in Cambodia?
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Fair trade organic cotton of course.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
that's a hipster
v-neck t-shirt, sweat band, terrible shades, chin growth
and looks like a slight breeze might destroy him
See to me that is a Douche Bag
A hipster finds a random shirt on the floor and wears it
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by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 13, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
hipsters and douche bags are not mutually exclusive
by BirdsonFire on Aug 13, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's obvious he's
a douchebag who wants to be a hipster.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
my mind is blown.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I know.
That level of doucheyness is astronomical.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I think you mean
http://www.hotchickswithdouchebags.com/
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Stuck between two worlds
He desperately tries to be something he’s not, but his true nature always shines through at the end. It’s rather tragic. I think this is a metaphor for the entire history of the Chicago Cubs.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Aug 13, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's obvious that he's lost
in this world of douchey hipsters, desperately just trying to find himself.
Pretty much FML any time -Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball.- Joe Thurston runs the bases.
by Cardinals645 on Aug 13, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
this
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 13, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
This is clearly the answer
Hipsters don’t like sports. This is a well-known fact.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Aug 13, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
but don't they like beer?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Only Pabst
which they pretend to like the taste of.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Aug 13, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
[writes this down]
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I don't know if I am an expert on hipsters,
but I may be able to help shed some light into these truly awful people.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Aug 13, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
If it's
this guy, he’s definitely a douchebag.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I love the internet.
And Deadspin.
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
Speaking of douches
I just got a copy of fucking Maxim in the mail because apparently Blender quit printing. I want to kick my own ass.
Shut up, Fritz™.
by Alxfritz on Aug 13, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
does that come with a full sample set of the AXE array of male beauty products?
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
DoucheBag or Hipster
1. Knows they are smarter than you.
2. Knows they are buffer than you.
3. Has enough hair gel on to spackle a medium size house.
4. Doesn’t own a comb or brush.
5. Shelves are full of books they’ve read.
6. Shelves are full of Bruce Lee DVDs.
7. Shops at Abercrombie.
8. Shops at Goodwill.
9. Refreshes with a Redbull.
10. Refreshes with a Vanilla Latte.
11. Often confused for being homosexual.
12. Is a closet homosexual.
13. Wears dark rimmed glasses.
14. Squints.
15. Was beat up in High School.
16. Was the person beating them up in High School.
17. Voted for Obama.
18. Voted?
19. Ate steak for lunch.
20. Snacked on some hummus.
21. Listening to Radiohead on their Ipod.
22. Making up rap lyrics to techno music.
23. Blogging on a Mac
24. Upload pics of themselves to Facebook.
25. Refer to their guy friends as ‘boys’.
26. Has no guy friends.
27. Wears flip flops.
28. Wants to impress you by quoting Thomas Pynchon.
29. Wants to wrestle you in front of their friends.
30. Ironic saying on T-Shirt.
31. Collar popped up.
32. Owned their jeans so long they have holes in them.
33. Purchased their jeans with holes in them.
34. Throws their College name in your face.
35. Can’t find their Community College on a map.
36. You want to punch them with in 30 minutes of meeting them.
answers
Douchebag: 2,3,6,7,9,12,14,16,18,19,22,24,25,29,31,33,35
Hipster: 1,4,5,8,10,11,13,15,17,20,21,23,26,28,30,32,34
Both: 27, 36
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by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 13, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
...
Can someone add this up and see which this guy is?
Pretty much FML any time -Todd Wellemeyer touches a baseball.- Joe Thurston runs the bases.
by Cardinals645 on Aug 13, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Are ya sayin'....
….anyone who voted for Obama is either a hipster or a douchebag? Cause I’m gonna get real mad now…
>=8/
I hate Jason Marquis!
:=8O
And Sometimes....
….to add the ol’ Bronx Raspberry, I’ll do:
:=8P ‘’ ’’‘’ ’’’ ’’’’’’’’ ’ ’’’’’
I hate Jason Marquis!
:=8O
I'm assuming
he’s implying they voted for Obama because that was the “cool” thing to do.
but you know what they say when you assume things…
when
it’s like for a once in a life time thing, man, yeah. It’s like now when we’re old, we can say we voted for like the first african american president, man.
When the Country.
….votes in Jello Biafra for president, THAT will be a memory-worthy, once in a lifetime event…
;=8)
I hate Jason Marquis!
:=8O
No, moo, you misunderstand.
Douchebags HAD to vote for Obama, because it was the cool thing to do, not because they made any sort of informed political decision.
Not all Obama voters are douchebags, but all douchebags are Obama voters.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
That's most definitely not true.
I know several Republican douchebags.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I thought they were called
dumbasses.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Maybe they should
get party qualifiers.
Douchebag ( R )
Douchebag ( D )
Douchebag ( various parties, G, L, I, etc )
douchebag (lowercase for lack of political affiliation)
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
That seems very sensible.
the lowercase implies a more generic term for a whole class of people while the capitalized version can indicate a specific named subject.
Like this: The Cubs and all their fans are douchebags. Ryan Braun is Deputy Douchebag.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
And Im not a Dumbass either
SlamalamaJackADongWick cares very little about your draft pick standing-by gdm426
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 13, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
that's a different breed of douchebag
and I would replace douchebags with hipsters in Eck’s comment.
This is all getting very confusing.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
after following HCWDB for a couple years
I feel like I am as well versed in douchebags as most of the posters here are in sabermetrics
I'm not a douchebag
SlamalamaJackADongWick cares very little about your draft pick standing-by gdm426
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 13, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
whoa whoa whoa....
flip flops are “douchbaggy” AND “hipstery”? So I had crater-sized chunks taken out of my heels after hiking a big-ass mountain and have rocked flip flops for about 2 weeks now, which by this completely valid and reliable quiz, suggests that I’m both a hipster AND a d-bag.
Awesome.
They're all I wear when I'm not at work.
I don;t know what that says about me, other than I like comfy feet.
Shut up, Fritz™.
I like being barefoot
/enter redneck joke
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Aug 13, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
If she had a pause in there
(Am I sure that’s what that is?) and then said “kidding,” that would be amazing.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I don't think there's quite that kind of causal relationship here
The quiz assumes that we’re already talking about a hipster or douchebag. It’s kind of like a checklist of attributes. Flip flops are harmless enough on their own, much like having a bookshelf of books that you have actually read or eating steak for lunch.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i think that's #1 on the douche bag-qualifier list
for the moo cow.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

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