Game 84 Open Thread -- July 5, 2009
St. Louis Cardinals at Cincinnati Reds, Jul 5, 2009 1:10 PM EDT
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| Carpenter | Arroyo |
| 2.60 FIP | 5.98 FIP |
Arroyo's given up the most homers and earned runs in the majors this season. Both lefties and righties have slugging %s at .500 or better and he's actually been worse away from Great America Ballpark than he has at home. Amazingly, he's 8-7 -- more proof that a pitcher's wins or winning % are a useless method of analyzing a pitcher's performance.
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All-Star Selection Show
is on TBS now.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
AL
(Missed first few)
Jeter SS
Longoria 3B
Bay OF
Suzuki OF
Hamilton OF
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by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Mauer C
Don’t know why they didn’t just show the whole list at the end of the segment.
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by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
they're broadcasting professionals
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
AL Reserves:
A Jones
K Youkilis
V Martinez
C Granderson
T Hunter
J Morneau
J Bartlett
C Crawford
B Zobrist
M Young
A Hill
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by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
(finally)
Mauer C
Texiera 1B
Pedroia 2B
Jeter SS
Longoria 3B
Bay OF
Suzuki OF
Hamilton OF
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by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
pretty good choices
except hamilton and jeter (and actually jeter’s having a pretty good season so it’s not a bad one) – I’d say that’s not far off the ideal AL lineup.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
AL Pitchers:
Z Greinke
R Halliday
J Verlander
T Wakefield
M Buehrle
J Papelbon
J Nathan
M Rivera
B Fuentes
A Bailey
F Hernandez
J Beckett
E Jackson
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by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice to see Wakefield made it
Surprised Fuentes did
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 5, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I missed the AL
Let us know, we’re watching tennis.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Roddick
hasn’t had his serve broken today.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
But right now
Federer is going 40 love and Roddick is going deuce…..and there’s the break.
Not afraid to nitpick
I'm watching.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
NL
Molina C
Pujols 1B
Utley 2B
Ramirez SS
Wright 3B
Braun OF
Ibanez OF
Beltran OF
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by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
These are just the fan voting winners. He won’t play, I don’t think.
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by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
congrats yadi!
first Allstat selection if i’m not mistaken, and first start!
I can’t argue with a single one of those selections. I like zimmerman but wright’s just as worthy.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
NL Pitchers
H Bell
C Billingsly
J Broxton
M Cain
R Franklin
D Haren
J Johnson
T Lilly
T Lincecum
F Rodriguez
J Santana
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by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like I missed a couple
Marquis and Cordero are on the list too.
Oh well, you’ll be able to see the rosters elsewhere soon enough.
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by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
NL Reserves
B McCann
P Fielder
A Gonzalez
R Howard
O Hudson
F Sanchez
M Tejada
R Zimmerman
B Hawpe
H Pence
J Upton
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by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Why did Ryan Howard make it?
They really didn’t need him
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 5, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
because his manager
is the AS manager?
and he is from StL?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Last Chancers
AL:
A Lind
I Kinsler
C Figgins
C Pena
B Inge
NL:
M Reynolds
M Kemp
S Victorino
P Sandoval
C Guzman
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by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta be Kemp or Victorino,
Our OF defense is going to suuuuuuck.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
Federer is
a handsome guy.
(Do you think that works with tennis?)
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
he may lob that back for an anti-jinx
Crap.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I can't handle the top-spin!
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
i really dont see why they give ab's
to the guy…wheres dunc?
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Cheese Viking
with the eye black. He’s serious today, folks.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
Kyle and his sweet mustache were in the dugout yesterday
Not weird at all.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 5, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
so it has to be asked
Pornstache. y/n?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Whatever makes those guys feel like they have an edge
by cloistermaximus on Jul 5, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
starters planned it
Part of the game-plan?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
who is this carpenter guy
and why does he suck so bad?
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
OT Federer is a machine
And in the bad way.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Federer is awesome.
Best ever.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
man, Andy could have taken it any number of times
So close. So, so close. Stupid shadows.
And people pre-recorded championship congratulations for several ads. wtf.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
the 2nd set tie-break was the killer
4 set points and then losing…. still, I love federer so I was happy he won. I’m not too bothered about roddick.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
these scrubs and their beach balls
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
heya guys, great sunday afternoon for baseball
looks like I’ve missed all the offence! How did we score the runs?
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colby jack
deeep
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
Awesome
Schumaker walked/singled first?
I <3 Colby.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Doubled.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
shu double
then colby bunted foul twice, then went deep.
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
haha awesome
the old “Adam Dunn” play vs dusty’s team…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
colby HR to opposite field?
i think that’s the first one this year. Good sign – he’s been pulling it way too much/
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
oh ok
well a colby jack is still christmas :-)
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
he sucks
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would they want such a terrible pitcher?
The guy is the worst.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 5, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
carp and boog
jacking?
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
ha ha, fuck wins
stupid stat.
Still, I’d rather carp didn’t pitch. Keep him healthy GOBs.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
who esle you gonna take from the rockies?
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Jul 5, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the Monk hit the nail on the head.
While we’d all like to see Carp get the recognition, is there any of us that really want him to pitch in this game? Even if it’s just an inning…hell, especially if its just an inning. Personally, I don’t want him throwing one more pitch than necessary this season and even though “this one counts”, Carp"s right arm matters a hell of a lot more to me than this stupid game.
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
I'm not sure why you responded to me.
But, yeah, I agree. Plus I don’t think he should be an All Star.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
I was just falling in line and keeping the thread going
I was responding to you and agreeing with Monk. It made sense in my head. Basically, it doesn’t matter who Colorado has that should make it, I still don’t want to see Carpenter throw one baseball at the all star game.
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
carp was mad abotu something
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
like greene yesterday
i sometimes think our IF positioning is bad. Who places them? Oquendo? TLR? A mixture?
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i was thinking watching
it live that he was, and then they showed carp mad…
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
someone tell the reds announcers that rbis don't mean shit...
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
that curveball is
filthy
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
man corn royyo looks bad
w/ helmet on
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
he was meat at 3rd
joe!
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
no-one at third to catch it
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
not sure thats the play
think joe actually did right
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
joes back to third mo taking him to first
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
oh, he made it to the bag? ok then
someone needs to shout to thurston to throw to 3rd then. It’s molina’s call. Thursty can’t see 3B from his position.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just happy
Thursty got an out
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YES!
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I <3 carp
and colby
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
whew
carp makes me nervous
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
really?
he’s about the only one I have confidence in….
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
... he makes me nervous with
the falling down and such…. really anytime he has to make an athletic move that isn’t throwing a pitch.
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
whoa
groin injury warning
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
achilles
ankle, anything
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
no kidding
I missed it, how’d he “slip”?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
banana peel
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
that stadium's really old-school
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Very.
Laurel and Hardy do an act during the 7th inning stretch.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
now they're saying Ludwick tripped on some luggage
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
wow Ricks Fox pic
haha
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
good job carpenter!
the ol’ seat of the pants throw.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
OT: in other news,
i’m still in california, relegated to listening to the cardinals radio broadcast. if anyone ever lacks tv coverage and the game isn’t on a p2p tv program such as tvants, i recommend the site freebaseballradio. they link to radio websites on which the game is being broadcast online.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
Don't like that the inning got Carps pitch count up
I think Bronson’s only thrown about 25 pitches so far.
Me either.
Carp threw 20 that inning, I think.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
note to tlr
can we please see this OF every day? Can’t stand duncan anymore…
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
I just can't
stand to see Ank and Dunc in the same lineup. It gives me fits.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
anytime ludwick or rasmus are left out
we are shooting ourselves in the f’ing foot. They’re both better than the other two, vs lefties OR righties…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Luddy has a
black-eye!
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
oooh snap
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
"walked into a door"
Shoulder too?! Ugh, don’t be messing with that.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i don't buy it
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Me either.
Of course, I am that clutzy. I was a great athlete, great hand-eye coordination, and I’d walk into door frames.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
turn on the bedside light!
Geez, Luddy.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
haha
luddy got in a fight?
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
with his suitcase
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
geez...
did luddy get shitfaced and have to roll someone at the bar last night?
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
after losses
The Cardinals go out and clean up the mean streets.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
no dp and he hit the ball
that’s an improvement… right?
as predictable as the sun rise
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he
“tripped on his luggage”
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
ha
allegedly…
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
by Smokin Turkeys on Jul 5, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
That's battered wife speak for
I burned the toast.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 5, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
actually
he thought he detected a flaw in albert’s swing
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jul 5, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
damn
colby jacked again?
boy is on fire
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Yadi's an all-star, punks
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
great jump
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
arroyo is hanging a LOT of curves
all three hits this inning were, I think…
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too bad Rick still can't hit one
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The one Albert hit wasn't really a hanger
Pujols is just that good
by cloistermaximus on Jul 5, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny
Reds broadcaster just said until that hit by Yadi, all the hits were on his fastball.
Not sure what game they’re watching.
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground."
yeah
pujols was definitely a curve, hanging, and luddy’s looked like a breaking ball of some sort that didn’t break.
If his FB is only hitting the low-80s the guy has some problems…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Thurston > Ankiel > Duncan
really.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
that's not saying much, FM
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nope, very little indeed
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Carpenter >>>>> those guys...
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
too bad
jt could use a little luck
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Carp!
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
CARPENTER
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
whoops
maybe offense, the c version sounds bad
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
It's the British spelling
Felonius is a Briton
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
Arroyo fears the Carp
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
and not anything like the way
Franklin sucks.
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground."
since when did we TRUST our medical staff?!?
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Brewers series?
He’s back in stl to have the wrist checked, last I heard.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
he's probably out for the year :-|
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
He'll be back Tuesday
With the off day on Monday it makes sense to rest the wrist a few extra days
by cloistermaximus on Jul 5, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
From Matthew Leach (cardinals beat writer)
“Mark DeRosa has taken some swings off a tee, starting yesterday. The Cardinals still aren’t ready to declare when he’ll return to the lineup, but they haven’t ruled out Tuesday. He’ll get a checkup on his strained left wrist on Monday.”
Thank the Maker
Anything to get rid of Thurston.
Of course, DeRosa will probably be starting in CF.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 5, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't we trade for him
just for that purpose?
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Hoffpauir
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
gotta protect there boog
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
Carpenter checks his base-running algorithms
He’s a little rusty.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
New Hardee's ad.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
what a difference a day makes
in general, Cards not over-swinging today.
but… this just in: Ankiel sucks
that's JUST in???
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
rick-dick gota be a competitve guy
how does he sleep with what must be lots of ABs swirling in his head (and not ending well)
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
just saw frankilin is an all star
he suscks, but that’s cool. he deserves it
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
.300 AVERAGE, MAN!
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
No one is a worse choice than Ryan Franklin
he is not only the worst pitcher in the league, but might be the worst player overall.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 5, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and he's a terrible human being.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In the ASG, did they announce
1) the last players availible for voting?
2) the replacements for Ibanez and Beltran?
I’m hoping Colby is an option.
Miles.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
they flashed the reserves but I couldn't catch them all
Where the hell is the website? It’s the 21st century. These announcers not announcing anything is starting to get to me. The guys in the truck could at least give us a ticker.
Aha. http://mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2009/roster_league.jsp
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
AL
A Lind
I Kinsler
C Figgins
C Pena
B Inge
NL
M Reynolds
M Kemp
S Victorino
P Sandoval
C Guzman
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Figgins?!?!
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
lilly of all people
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just lilly
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Kemp.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I dunno
I think I’d bail out of the box if a Carpenter curveball was breaking in towards me too.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 5, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
haha x2
the reds station (on mlb.tv) can’t spell “Tejada”. That’s pretty unproffesional…
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Reds broadcaster just said something beautiful
Only Cubs all-star rep is Ted Lilly
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground."
Best thing about it is that the best clip of Lilly is him throwing his glove on the mound in the '07 NLDS
Bet that clip is queued up in the FOX truck and ready to go if he gives up a longball in the ASG.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 5, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone here had that as an animated gif
It was awesome. I could watch it for days.
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Has the strike zone been this small all day for Carp?
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He's just not getting the top of the zone on his curveball for some reason
His fastball is being called correctly though
by cloistermaximus on Jul 5, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
on mlbtv if u watch highlights its the
other teams guys, and man do they rip Bronson
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
its just funny to hear a
broadcaster other than our own rip a guy
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
some people (Dusty) never learn
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the way carp is throwing
that’s not a bad spot to try, 1 out and the guy a couple of strikes down… Not sure if it was the H&R or a straight steal attempt. Hit and runs suck (especially with a bopper like Bruce in the box) but a steal there is OK i think.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Phillips
was safe. But I’ll take it.
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should have interference anyway
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strike em out
throw em out
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Yadi to second.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
isn't it easier there
for ryan to just step on the bag? I never understand why outfielders don’t often do that on steals/pickoffs when the throw is right over it….
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it's not a force out
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
did i mention
how happy i am that i don’t have to listen to jay randolph and frank cusamano today?
because i am happy about it
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
wow
keep throwing that curve arroyo. That is such a meatball.
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yyyyyeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssss
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
not if luddy
has anything to say about it……
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
Colby
having a nice game.
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another XBH?
really colby colby Als ticked
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
even Al has come around and admitted colby should be starting every day
but he says so with a frown and a fist shake
by FunkeeC on Jul 5, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
raz!
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
he was running forever
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
carp with room for error
(if he needs it) i like it…he should have at least 8 wins(guessing)
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
he gets a lot of lift
that wasn’t a bad pitch but when he’s on he really uppercuts it, but with a pretty quiet swing. I like it. A lot.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
alright luddy, just pretend
ball is your face, bat is your “luggage”
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
lmao
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
if he did trip
It’s like he face-planted.
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His lip
looks a little messed up, too.
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Two-Facewick
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Luggage has a pretty fair right hook.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Luddy
joined a fight club. Needs to channel his frustrations.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
his name
is Ryan Ludwick
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
hey dustyt
shy is the music man still in there?
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put a coat on that hanger
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
al was the best pitcher ever
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
NICE HUSTLE COLBY!
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
Sweet!
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I don't know what happened, but it was awesome.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
[thumba]
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
COLLLLBBBYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!
great wheels kid… We’re SERIOUS, ladies and gentlemen!!!
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weak, but lucky, luddy
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I'll take lucky every time, thx
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Cards best weapon this series:
Dusty Baker
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
Magic Eight Ball says Reply hazy, try again
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Wild Throw by the 3B
Damn you Thurston….Wait
Sorry natural reaction
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 5, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I'd say FC & error
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
were they just tellin rick
to lean into one… dorn style?
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this is exactly the sort of time when ankiel does his best hitting... sigh...
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productive out
I’ll take it
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thanks, dusty
looks like walking apu worked just as planned
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Every single runner scored
So, the outcome was the same as a 3-run HR, without the fun for the crowd.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 5, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
yup
and statistically, they had a
>50% chance of getting him out
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
that was a bad decision
but the way arroyo was pitching there i think a hanging curve could’ve been hit out of ohio….
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Carp finally
getting some run support.
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I heard that.
Thieving bastards.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
no because then they would comment on how to make the page better
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
The guys in the van
are reading it and feeding it to Dan n AL. Dan and Al are just puppets.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I really like the radio guys
a ton better…i cannot stand the negativity from Dan and al and how noone in the MLB plays the game right
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Shannon
and Rooney are so uneven, though. Sometimes they call a great game, other times… yeesh. I really think that Dan is fine, and would be much better with a better replacement for Al.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I like Shannon and Horton
But Ronney isn’t bad. I always listen to the radio feed even when I watch it on TV
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 5, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
is there anything that any player does that dan and Al like?
they are the greatest men of all time
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Encarnacion?
They REALLY said Encarnacion is a good fielder?
That -34.1 fielding value means nothing.
Adam Kennedy?
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Anthony Kim
AKA my favorite American golfer
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
they just spit out another ridiculous number
For Albert’s total number of bases.
He’s ridiculous.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Wow. Bronson's throwing BP out there
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not up 7 runs
and only 1 out.
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
whoooooooo
dusty no like bronson
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Yadi RIPPED that one
Bronson’s taking one for the team now
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
took me a while to find it... but, luddy?

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by MUGATU on Jul 5, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Had to be the way it happened.
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rofl
love that gif
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
one more run
and we double the lead for the second inning in a row
So in the 7th we'll have 16 runs?
That’s some binary bullshit
by cloistermaximus on Jul 5, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
okay I'm playing the lottery today
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unlucky thursty
good contact – i’m sure we’ll take the SF….
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Where did you get your numbers?
And do they include today?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Huh. Don't know what Al is doing.
Maybe we should throw fake stats around and see if we Dan will regurgitate them.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
doubt it
since he’s got more than 7 walks
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
BR says he 206 not including today
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 5, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know how you calculate total bases...
but the official stat is calculated singles+2xdoubles +3xtriples +4xhrs
walks and bases subsequently advanced are not part of the equation (why isn’t there a stat that includes those, i have no idea…)
the long slow ascent towards victory:

looking good guys!
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
well, yes, the graph goes down.
but you don’t descend to victory. i don’t care what the graph says. =P
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
no one?
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
Congrats!
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Ludwick is
gonna face plant his dresser.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
other eye?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
He needs
symmetry.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
could've passed it off as face paint
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Like a warrior.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
or to match with Colby
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
99.99
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
That was a nasty hop
played well by Boog
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
that guy has been solid
nice to see
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sweet dp
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
All Star Game picks
Are all the St. Louisans coming home?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
then they mention Marquis and Haren
…
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
buehrle?!
ugh.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow. Dusty really, really hates Bronson
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"you got us in this mess, kid...
you get us out of it!"
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
He's
resting his bullpen.
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until APu comes up w/the bases loaded
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Boog!
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
just about to your 10-run Sunday, TNT
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I'll start asking
for 10-run M, T, W, Th, F & Sat – if it helps
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
schu has hit well today
well, i guess most of the team has…. arroyo is sucking an enormous baseball dong today…
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"Colby don't walk"
doesn’t have the same ring as “Charlie don’t surf”
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by gocards62 on Jul 5, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
Colby
really isn’t an everyday player. TLR, please take note….
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well this could be interesting.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
COLBY!!!
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
i think you might be the first rasmus avatar on the site
if i’m not mistaken… congrats!
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Runnin Redbird
was the first.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
mine is better
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Debatable.
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I like that one
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I'm going to be the first Hoffpauir avatar...
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
the streak is over!
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
haha "bases loaded, no outs, albert pujols up...
go for it, kid…."
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
ball 1
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Walk Colby (finally!)
to load ’em up for Mang.
Can you imagine the poor guy coming in from the bullpen? His heart has to be pounding out of his chest.
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
Josh Roenicke
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
man has walked on the moon
colby is made of cheese
the moon is made of cheese
colby can walk
by BirdsonFire on Jul 5, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Seriously, would Tony have left PK in this long?
or anybody else for that matter?
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Marquis took some beatings like this in 06
by cloistermaximus on Jul 5, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what the 13 man BP is for ;-)...
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
of course it is
sigh.
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"I'm shocked, shocked to find gambling here"
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there's a f'ing surprise
god i hate our medical staff…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
UGH
I hope you are being sarcastic.
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Joe Strauss Twitter
Organizational concern over DeRosa’s wrist greater than first suggested.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 5, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
(groan)
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
it woudl be nice for them to get it right..
once maybe?…hopefully well get good news on Glaus then?
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Latest report is that Glaus has contracted Dutch Elm Disease
by cloistermaximus on Jul 5, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
i laughed.
Reduce insect vectors!
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
stupid twitter and its stupid character limit
A slightly different take than prior to the team leaving town. My info is DeRosa will see Paletta, who has yet to examine him.
Perez-DeRosa deal nearly ditched at last minute over injury concern, but it was about Perez’ ankle, not De Rosa’s wrist. CP surgery in Oct.
@Khoe00 I’ll leave it for the post-exam report.
@Erik_Manning That’s a bit extreme. The club strains medical information. Last year’s motto: “Dumb it down.”
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I expect DeRosa has actually been dead for the last 4 days.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
put sunglasses on him
and place him at third?
wow, rookie kid got
the best of albert there.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
APu a little impatient there
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this kid is having a great debut
He’ll be marking this one down.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
late comment
but why didnt Ludiwck get credit for an RBI in the 5th inning?
you cant assume a double play, therefore he should get an RBI as if he grounded out.
Milt Thompson FTW!
I think it was E5 FC.
I don’t know why.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
right
but you get an RBI when the guy scores from third on any type of ground out except double play.
Milt Thompson FTW!
what about if you hit a shallow fly, guy doesn't tag to run and then fielder throws it away?
the run scores on throwing error, not as a sacrifice from the original hit. I think the same applies here. If the error had been anything else, or they had been trying to put out anyone except the runner, it would’ve been an rbi. I think.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
i didnt see the play
did they throw home for the error? if so it makes sense now
Milt Thompson FTW!
k, gracias....back to the game
Milt Thompson FTW!
you get an rbi on a fielders chose though
so if he makes an out he gets an rbi but if its an error he doesn’t? that cant be right, or at least shouldnt be right
Milt Thompson FTW!
run scored on an error
not on the original hit, i think?
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
b/c of the error?
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
They ruled
That the error is what allowed the first runner to score on the play. If they’d ruled that the runner would have scored had the error not been committed, he would have gotten an RBI.
lol
if we weren’t like 30 runs up, that would really have sucked….
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still irritated though
it’s nice to go for the jugular on occasion
yep
plus it would have been nice to see Ludwick come through with all these runners on base. He badly needs to start driving those guys home again.
Milt Thompson FTW!
41 rbis i think
not bad given he’s been injured – despite his minor suckitude ((mostly BABIP I think) he could still drive in 100 if he plays and hits 4th rest of the year. TLR CANNOT keep running Dunc and Ank out there. COLBY AND LUDDY MUST PLAY EVERY DAY.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
note to the guys...
it’d be nice to have given PK the 8 runs yesterday, and Carp the 3 today :-). Carp don’t need 8…
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should be.
dunc in to 1st
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
a beaut, boog
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fielding like Floppy v.2008
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you know, al
he really is.
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
mcrae looks hungover
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
mcrae = luddy's luggage?
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
he's a righty
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Ank actually gets a hit!?
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
wait. wait wait wait.
did ank just get a base hit?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
hopefully rick
doesn’t swing on the…oh, wait. never mind. it worked out okay, i guess.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
And Dicky getting a hit when it doesn't matter...
We should really be able to remove meaningless hits from his stat line.
would hhe have any then?
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haha Al burning Yadi for lack of hustle
Ahahaha. Hahaha.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
To: Al, Re: Molina
SYFPH
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by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
pie hole!
I was wondering about that…
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
indubitably
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by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
really al,,,,

"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
we need to get huge leads more often,
so ank can get his numbers up a little.
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
Joe's been robbed
twice today
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
i hope hawksworth gets some work today
it’d be nice to see one of the AAAA starters get a multi-inning look. Let’s not push carp past 90-odd pitches…
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
He pitched well for 3 innings yesterday
and has to be in consideration for Thompson’s next start
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
only if he can grow a 'stache by then.
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
Hm. eight runs today
and Albert doesn’t have an RBI. When’s the last time that’s happened?
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2006?
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
2000
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
by Smokin Turkeys on Jul 5, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
lmao
MASSIVE cock up on mlb.tv…. They came back too early, the TV station hadn’t… They were just showing a side-on picture of the crowd (still in advert break on TV i guess) and then someone said (in the box, and VERY audibly), “Oh, shiiiiiiiiit”, with some guys laughing in the background. Awesome.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
heard that too
had to ask my girl if she heard what i heard
by hangingfromatree on Jul 5, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Carp caves to peer pressure re: the mustaches
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
to be fair
he’s had two hits taken away on good defensive plays by the reds
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
And to repay me for defending him
he drops the damned ball on a peg out at 3rd!
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
thanks Joe.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
the french Joe Thurston fan club?
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
you gotta catch the ball, thrusty
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
look at Albert fixin' to eliminate
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
oh, bruce
you can’t run on the cheese
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
His neck is
way too small. It’s embarrassing, really.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
OH SHIT
i forgot about Laynce Nix. He’s just about to hit a 9-run homer. Shiiiiiiit.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
this is Carp's last inning anyway
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Carp's
’stache makes him look like a small-town cop.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Miles > Thursty
At least Miles has a walkoff grand slam under his belt.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 5, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Back that up
Miles so horrible this season, I mean like Hoff has already been more valuable than Miles has been than this season
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 5, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
hoffpauir
now passing tyler greene’s walk total for the season in 3 days…
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
i really hope this catches on,
can you imagine how awesome a team photo would look with all those ’staches? that would be priceless.
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
we'd be the most bad-ass looking
team in baseball.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
could the unthinkable happen
two walks in one month, i mean week, i mean game???
ha
Was coming to post the same thing
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 5, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I used to work with a guy who's name was
Dick Bonin
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 5, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Dick Pole jokes
will never get old.
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by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
could he do it again?
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
if you mean ground into a weak DP
then yes.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
C'mon Hot Sauce
no freebies here
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not sure why motte's pitching
don’t we have another cannon-fodder arm than hawksworth? Kinney?
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
Kinney was not impressive the other night
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we are 7 runs up...
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
hawksworth
has been solid in his last couple outings
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
aye
either of those would be fine in my book
Motte getting squeezed.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
sure seems that way....
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
Sauce doesn't seem to be bringing it
quite like he was early on.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
nice eye-high FB there
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descalso
1 for 2 so far
3 for 7 since being called up
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
disturbing
Franklin’s stroking the beard.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
THE BEARD STAYS!!!!!
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
y'all like applesauce with your porkchop?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Ok...
so DunK and AnK have base hits… and Mang has no RBIs when Cards score 8 runs.
apocalypse coming?
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
Thirsty isn't safe
when he’s on the bases anyway.
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by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
well played
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
but he does have an RBI
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
9 with a ground out FC
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
That's how I play tennis.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
That stumble that Luddy had into 1B?
That’s how I play softball.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
i am graceful with my feet
not with my hands
That's also how I play Monopoly
/clutz
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by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Lord, Yadi
that ball was over your head
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10 run
Sunday!
Sunday!
Sunday!
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
10 RUN SUNDAY!
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
Hoff
Power.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
Hoff Power!
Almost gone
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
he hit that ball hard
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
wall power?
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
hoff-power!
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
a 1-2-3 ninth would be good
i need to go to the gym
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
i know...
but with an off day tomorrow – i want to squeeze in all the STL baseball i can into this weekend
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
That's how I felt, so I slid the eliptical into the living room.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
listening to the radio, so apparently there is a fairly big delay.
/chitown’d
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
ah, okay.
my apologies, chitown. i’ve not been up to date on the day to day goings on at veb. dang vacation. consider it unsaid.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
the return of 10 run sunday makes my heart sing!!
I want to be the no-talent ass clown!
by RosevilleRedbird on Jul 5, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions
WINNER!
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
winner winner
ribeye dinner.
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
Hoo
rah
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
ok, cubs
finish the deal so we have a little leeway to screw up in sausage land…
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Chris Narveson
is going to be coming in next inning for the Brewers. I had no idea he was a Brewer.
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
nice highlights package of Yadi's pickoffs
Sweet.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
This was a very serious game...
and Colby Rasmus is already the 2nd best position player on this team.
No doubt
Colby should be starting against RHPs over AnK or DunK. He’s been on fire lately, while the aforementioned two have done little other than K’ing or flying out.
TLR: Please start Colby!
he had a min streak liek this earlier in the season
where he was starting to catch on, only to get jossled, then slump a bit…He should be in all the time.
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Brewers lose
to some other team. Didn’t catch who.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
Fuentes
Dude has been lights out since his early in the season problems. He’s given up 11 ER all season, and 8 of those came in 3 outings.
It worked out okay with STL not going after him, but NOT b/c of the reasons everybody thought. Had Franklin not turned into whatever he is this year, and we were relying on Perez and/or Motte, we’d be in a world of hurt.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
We also would not have drafted Shelby Miller
It may not matter if we don’t sign him, but all signs indicate that he will be signed near the deadline
How do you figure
we’d be in a world of hurt if Motte was the closer?
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 5, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously?
You guys were clearly wrong about Perez/Motte being ready to close. No way around that.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
srsly?
Why is Jason Motte not ready to close? Has he been as good as Ryan Franklin? No. But he’s been damn good. He’d be fine as our closer.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 5, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt we'd be in first place right now
if Motte were closing instead of Franklin. World of hurt? Probably not, then again, I doubt DeRosa’d be on the team right now if we didn’t have Franklin closing. We’d be okay, definitely not in a world of hurt, but I also think we’d be looking up at the Brewers instead of the other way around. And with the way things are shaping up, I’m not so sure we have the luxury of knowing we can lose a game or two and not have it come back to hurt us at the end of the year. I think it’s gonna be a 3 team race (maybe four?) to the end.
And to be quite honest. I’m not sure Jason Motte is a future closer. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t/isn’t going to be real valuable to this team. IMO, he’s the type of pitcher that’s designed to put out fires with his ability to strike out any hitter. I don’t know, maybe he can close. I just don’t think he can.
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
I think we would have clearly lost more games
since Ryan Franklin has been performing well over his head right now. But the team wouldn’t be in a ‘world’ of hurt. If we had Brian Fuentes, we would have had to trade Ryan Ludwick to clear up payroll room, we wouldn’t have drafted Shelby Miller and we’d have even less money going forward. THAT would be a world of hurt.
The way this team is currently playing and currently constructed, they aren’t a World Championship caliber team. If you took away Ryan Franklin and replaced him with Brian Fuentes, would they be? No. If you took away Ryan Franklin and replaced him with Jason Motte, would they be? No. So, we would have lost a few games in the standings with Motte but we would have also lost a lot more financially.
Fuentes 09:
1.235 WHIP
8.3 H/9
0.6 HR/9
2.9 BB/9
9.5 K/9
Motte 09:
1.300 WHIP
8.4 H/9
1.2 HR/9
3.3 BB/9
7.5 K/9
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 6, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention three months ago,
we wouldn’t have considered being here with Ryan Franklin a possibility either. The plan was that the bullpen would shake out because of all the talented arms in it. Just because after the fact we traded the least talented one doesn’t mean something along these lines wasn’t basically the idea.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
Nice series
Made it back from Memphis without getting a chance to see the Redbirds. Had a firework go off in my hand last night, it still kinda hurts. I hope we win the next two series and that DeRosa is ok.
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

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