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Game 84 Open Thread -- July 5, 2009

St. Louis Cardinals at Cincinnati Reds, Jul 5, 2009 1:10 PM EDT


 

Carpenter Arroyo
2.60 FIP 5.98 FIP

In Carp's last start, he was beat around pretty well, garnering a game score of 25 -- the only start of the season in which he's been below average. I'm looking for him to rebound today. He gets a lot of Ks and a lot of ground balls and pitched a complete game 3 hitter the last time he faced the Reds. I hope we don't need him to be that good today.

Arroyo's given up the most homers and earned runs in the majors this season. Both lefties and righties have slugging %s at .500 or better and he's actually been worse away from Great America Ballpark than he has at home. Amazingly, he's 8-7 -- more proof that a pitcher's wins or winning % are a useless method of analyzing a pitcher's performance.

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All-Star Selection Show

is on TBS now.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AL

(Missed first few)
Jeter SS
Longoria 3B
Bay OF
Suzuki OF
Hamilton OF

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mauer C

Don’t know why they didn’t just show the whole list at the end of the segment.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they're broadcasting professionals

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AL Reserves:
A Jones
K Youkilis
V Martinez
C Granderson
T Hunter
J Morneau
J Bartlett
C Crawford
B Zobrist
M Young
A Hill

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

(finally)

Mauer C
Texiera 1B
Pedroia 2B
Jeter SS
Longoria 3B
Bay OF
Suzuki OF
Hamilton OF

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pretty good choices

except hamilton and jeter (and actually jeter’s having a pretty good season so it’s not a bad one) – I’d say that’s not far off the ideal AL lineup.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AL Pitchers:
Z Greinke
R Halliday
J Verlander
T Wakefield
M Buehrle
J Papelbon
J Nathan
M Rivera
B Fuentes
A Bailey
F Hernandez
J Beckett
E Jackson

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice to see Wakefield made it

Surprised Fuentes did

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 5, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I missed the AL

Let us know, we’re watching tennis.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha i'm now trying to watch two events

and keep up w/ 2 threads

and sadly i have to leave soon :(

by kalmavet on Jul 5, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Roddick

hasn’t had his serve broken today.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 5, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But right now

Federer is going 40 love and Roddick is going deuce…..and there’s the break.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jul 5, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm watching.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 5, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NL

Molina C
Pujols 1B
Utley 2B
Ramirez SS
Wright 3B
Braun OF
Ibanez OF
Beltran OF

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beltran

thought he was hurt. can he play?

by UncleSam on Jul 5, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

These are just the fan voting winners. He won’t play, I don’t think.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

congrats yadi!

first Allstat selection if i’m not mistaken, and first start!

I can’t argue with a single one of those selections. I like zimmerman but wright’s just as worthy.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NL Pitchers

H Bell
C Billingsly
J Broxton
M Cain
R Franklin
D Haren
J Johnson
T Lilly
T Lincecum
F Rodriguez
J Santana

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like I missed a couple

Marquis and Cordero are on the list too.

Oh well, you’ll be able to see the rosters elsewhere soon enough.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NL Reserves

B McCann
P Fielder
A Gonzalez
R Howard
O Hudson
F Sanchez
M Tejada
R Zimmerman
B Hawpe
H Pence
J Upton

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why did Ryan Howard make it?

They really didn’t need him

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 5, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

because his manager

is the AS manager?

and he is from StL?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Jul 5, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last Chancers

AL:
A Lind
I Kinsler
C Figgins
C Pena
B Inge

NL:
M Reynolds
M Kemp
S Victorino
P Sandoval
C Guzman

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta be Kemp or Victorino,

Our OF defense is going to suuuuuuck.

Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.

Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU

by hazel on Jul 5, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Federer is

a handsome guy.

(Do you think that works with tennis?)

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 5, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he may lob that back for an anti-jinx

Crap.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't handle the top-spin!

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 5, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love Colby

I really do

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 5, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow!!!

Launched it again

by RiverRat on Jul 5, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

meh

he should have bunted instead…he just killed the rally!

Albert Pujols is ridiculous.

by stlhulsey on Jul 5, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i really dont see why they give ab's

to the guy…wheres dunc?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 5, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cheese Viking

with the eye black. He’s serious today, folks.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so it has to be asked

Pornstache. y/n?

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

pornfuzz

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 5, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

starters planned it

Part of the game-plan?

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who is this carpenter guy

and why does he suck so bad?

"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson

by MUGATU on Jul 5, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OT Federer is a machine

And in the bad way.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Federer is awesome.

Best ever.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

man, Andy could have taken it any number of times

So close. So, so close. Stupid shadows.

And people pre-recorded championship congratulations for several ads. wtf.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For real.

Roger even did one!

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 5, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the 2nd set tie-break was the killer

4 set points and then losing…. still, I love federer so I was happy he won. I’m not too bothered about roddick.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

that was the best opportunity he had.

by kalmavet on Jul 5, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

these scrubs and their beach balls

"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson

by MUGATU on Jul 5, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

heya guys, great sunday afternoon for baseball

looks like I’ve missed all the offence! How did we score the runs?

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

colby jack

deeep

"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson

by MUGATU on Jul 5, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome

Schumaker walked/singled first?

I <3 Colby.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doubled.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 5, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

shu double

then colby bunted foul twice, then went deep.

"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson

by MUGATU on Jul 5, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha awesome

the old “Adam Dunn” play vs dusty’s team…

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

aaarghs

third inning: Rooney or Brennamann… ugly choice

by the Tewk on Jul 5, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

colby HR to opposite field?

i think that’s the first one this year. Good sign – he’s been pulling it way too much/

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 5, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh ok

well a colby jack is still christmas :-)

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

he sucks

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's awful

"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground."

by TNTinCO on Jul 5, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

carp and boog

jacking?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 5, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

woops

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 5, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

carp's in the NL team presumably?

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nope

Marquis is though…

Albert Pujols is ridiculous.

by stlhulsey on Jul 5, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha ha, fuck wins

stupid stat.

Still, I’d rather carp didn’t pitch. Keep him healthy GOBs.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who esle you gonna take from the rockies?

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on Jul 5, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hawpe?

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 5, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Monk hit the nail on the head.

While we’d all like to see Carp get the recognition, is there any of us that really want him to pitch in this game? Even if it’s just an inning…hell, especially if its just an inning. Personally, I don’t want him throwing one more pitch than necessary this season and even though “this one counts”, Carp"s right arm matters a hell of a lot more to me than this stupid game.

I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.

by Tackle Box on Jul 5, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

yes yes yes

"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson

by MUGATU on Jul 6, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure why you responded to me.

But, yeah, I agree. Plus I don’t think he should be an All Star.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 6, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just falling in line and keeping the thread going

I was responding to you and agreeing with Monk. It made sense in my head. Basically, it doesn’t matter who Colorado has that should make it, I still don’t want to see Carpenter throw one baseball at the all star game.

I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.

by Tackle Box on Jul 6, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ryan

could’ve dived for that? probably not…

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

carp was mad abotu something

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 5, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

like greene yesterday

i sometimes think our IF positioning is bad. Who places them? Oquendo? TLR? A mixture?

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i was thinking watching

it live that he was, and then they showed carp mad…

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 5, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that curveball is

filthy

"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson

by MUGATU on Jul 5, 2009 1:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

strike 3 please ump...

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 5, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

Proud sponsor of the Official 2009 StL Cardinal theme song: Reason to Believe

by gocards62 on Jul 5, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

man corn royyo looks bad

w/ helmet on

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 5, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he was meat at 3rd

joe!

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 5, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no-one at third to catch it

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ryan

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 5, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not sure thats the play

think joe actually did right

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 5, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

joes back to third mo taking him to first

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 5, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, he made it to the bag? ok then

someone needs to shout to thurston to throw to 3rd then. It’s molina’s call. Thursty can’t see 3B from his position.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just happy

Thursty got an out

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by gocards62 on Jul 5, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

werd

"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson

by MUGATU on Jul 5, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice pitching carp

come on, one more….

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

YES!

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NAILS

Nails Carpenter, nails.

by cloistermaximus on Jul 5, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I <3 carp

and colby

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whew

carp makes me nervous

"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson

by MUGATU on Jul 5, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

really?

he’s about the only one I have confidence in….

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

... he makes me nervous with

the falling down and such…. really anytime he has to make an athletic move that isn’t throwing a pitch.

"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson

by MUGATU on Jul 5, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoa

groin injury warning

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 5, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

achilles

ankle, anything

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 5, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no kidding

I missed it, how’d he “slip”?

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

banana peel

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 5, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that stadium's really old-school

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very.

Laurel and Hardy do an act during the 7th inning stretch.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 5, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

now they're saying Ludwick tripped on some luggage

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 5, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow Ricks Fox pic

haha

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 5, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good job carpenter!

the ol’ seat of the pants throw.

cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.

by ilrosso on Jul 5, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OT: in other news,

i’m still in california, relegated to listening to the cardinals radio broadcast. if anyone ever lacks tv coverage and the game isn’t on a p2p tv program such as tvants, i recommend the site freebaseballradio. they link to radio websites on which the game is being broadcast online.

cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.

by ilrosso on Jul 5, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't like that the inning got Carps pitch count up

I think Bronson’s only thrown about 25 pitches so far.

by cloistermaximus on Jul 5, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Me either.

Carp threw 20 that inning, I think.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 5, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

note to tlr

can we please see this OF every day? Can’t stand duncan anymore…

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just can't

stand to see Ank and Dunc in the same lineup. It gives me fits.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 5, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Can’t wait for DeRosa to get back.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 5, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anytime ludwick or rasmus are left out

we are shooting ourselves in the f’ing foot. They’re both better than the other two, vs lefties OR righties…

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ooof

albert creamed that curve…

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Luddy has a

black-eye!

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 5, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oooh snap

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

has studwick

been hit in the face? black eye…

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"walked into a door"

Shoulder too?! Ugh, don’t be messing with that.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't buy it

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by prophetjohn on Jul 5, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me either.

Of course, I am that clutzy. I was a great athlete, great hand-eye coordination, and I’d walk into door frames.

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by spants on Jul 5, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

turn on the bedside light!

Geez, Luddy.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

luddy got in a fight?

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 5, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

with his suitcase

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by spants on Jul 5, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

geez...

did luddy get shitfaced and have to roll someone at the bar last night?

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by MUGATU on Jul 5, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

after losses

The Cardinals go out and clean up the mean streets.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There you go Luddy!

"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground."

by TNTinCO on Jul 5, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LUDDY! Nice.

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

as predictable as the sun rise

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by gocards62 on Jul 5, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he really does

can we just not play him again?

by riotmute on Jul 5, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ankiel

fuck off.

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he

“tripped on his luggage”

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by prophetjohn on Jul 5, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha

allegedly…

"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."

by Smokin Turkeys on Jul 5, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually

he thought he detected a flaw in albert’s swing

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by prophetjohn on Jul 5, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

hahaha

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by spants on Jul 5, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn

colby jacked again?

boy is on fire

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by prophetjohn on Jul 5, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yadi!

"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground."

by TNTinCO on Jul 5, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

YAYYYY!

YAAAADDDIIII! TANNED THAT BALL!

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yadi's an all-star, punks

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yadi the AS!

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by gocards62 on Jul 5, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

great jump

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

arroyo is hanging a LOT of curves

all three hits this inning were, I think…

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

too bad Rick still can't hit one

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by gocards62 on Jul 5, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny

Reds broadcaster just said until that hit by Yadi, all the hits were on his fastball.

Not sure what game they’re watching.

"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground."

by TNTinCO on Jul 5, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

pujols was definitely a curve, hanging, and luddy’s looked like a breaking ball of some sort that didn’t break.

If his FB is only hitting the low-80s the guy has some problems…

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thurston > Ankiel > Duncan

really.

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's not saying much, FM

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by gocards62 on Jul 5, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope, very little indeed

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn

good play phillips.

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

too bad

jt could use a little luck

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by sportsman on Jul 5, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Carp!

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by spants on Jul 5, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

CARPENTER

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

CARP!!!!

he IS the offence!

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

whoops

maybe offense, the c version sounds bad

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by sportsman on Jul 5, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's the British spelling

Felonius is a Briton

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by jd is legend on Jul 5, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carp!

"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground."

by TNTinCO on Jul 5, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Arroyo sucks

by riotmute on Jul 5, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Arroyo fears the Carp

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and not anything like the way

Franklin sucks.

"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground."

by TNTinCO on Jul 5, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

make it serious, Boog

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by gocards62 on Jul 5, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BOO!

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by gocards62 on Jul 5, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

since when did we TRUST our medical staff?!?

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brewers series?

He’s back in stl to have the wrist checked, last I heard.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's probably out for the year :-|

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'll be back Tuesday

With the off day on Monday it makes sense to rest the wrist a few extra days

by cloistermaximus on Jul 5, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From Matthew Leach (cardinals beat writer)

“Mark DeRosa has taken some swings off a tee, starting yesterday. The Cardinals still aren’t ready to declare when he’ll return to the lineup, but they haven’t ruled out Tuesday. He’ll get a checkup on his strained left wrist on Monday.”

linky

by DarkHelmut on Jul 5, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank the Maker

Anything to get rid of Thurston.

Of course, DeRosa will probably be starting in CF.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 5, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't we trade for him

just for that purpose?

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by gocards62 on Jul 5, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hoffpauir

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by jd is legend on Jul 5, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

gotta protect there boog

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by MUGATU on Jul 5, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Carpenter checks his base-running algorithms

He’s a little rusty.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

New Hardee's ad.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 5, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how do you know?

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by sportsman on Jul 5, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what a difference a day makes

in general, Cards not over-swinging today.
but… this just in: Ankiel sucks

by the Tewk on Jul 5, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that's JUST in???

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

rick-dick gota be a competitve guy

how does he sleep with what must be lots of ABs swirling in his head (and not ending well)

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by sportsman on Jul 5, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just saw frankilin is an all star

he suscks, but that’s cool. he deserves it

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 5, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In the ASG, did they announce

1) the last players availible for voting?
2) the replacements for Ibanez and Beltran?

I’m hoping Colby is an option.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 5, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they flashed the reserves but I couldn't catch them all

Where the hell is the website? It’s the 21st century. These announcers not announcing anything is starting to get to me. The guys in the truck could at least give us a ticker.

Aha. http://mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2009/roster_league.jsp

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AL
A Lind
I Kinsler
C Figgins
C Pena
B Inge

NL
M Reynolds
M Kemp
S Victorino
P Sandoval
C Guzman

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Jul 5, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Figgins?!?!

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lilly of all people

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by sportsman on Jul 5, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just lilly

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My vote's for Sandoval

that guy’s a beast

Albert Pujols is ridiculous.

by stlhulsey on Jul 5, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Kemp.

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by spants on Jul 5, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha phillips is a pussy...

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I dunno

I think I’d bail out of the box if a Carpenter curveball was breaking in towards me too.

by cloistermaximus on Jul 5, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha x2

the reds station (on mlb.tv) can’t spell “Tejada”. That’s pretty unproffesional…

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Reds broadcaster just said something beautiful

Only Cubs all-star rep is Ted Lilly

"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground."

by TNTinCO on Jul 5, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

tee hee

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by spants on Jul 5, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Best thing about it is that the best clip of Lilly is him throwing his glove on the mound in the '07 NLDS

Bet that clip is queued up in the FOX truck and ready to go if he gives up a longball in the ASG.

by cloistermaximus on Jul 5, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone here had that as an animated gif

It was awesome. I could watch it for days.

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by jd is legend on Jul 5, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

on mlbtv if u watch highlights its the

other teams guys, and man do they rip Bronson

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 5, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

its just funny to hear a

broadcaster other than our own rip a guy

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 5, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bronson = Thompson

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by gocards62 on Jul 5, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YADI!

ALL STAR ARM

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

some people (Dusty) never learn

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by gocards62 on Jul 5, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the way carp is throwing

that’s not a bad spot to try, 1 out and the guy a couple of strikes down… Not sure if it was the H&R or a straight steal attempt. Hit and runs suck (especially with a bopper like Bruce in the box) but a steal there is OK i think.

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

99.99

K + Throw!

"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground."

by TNTinCO on Jul 5, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Phillips

was safe. But I’ll take it.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 5, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

should have interference anyway

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by sportsman on Jul 5, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

strike em out

throw em out

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 5, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yadi to second.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

isn't it easier there

for ryan to just step on the bag? I never understand why outfielders don’t often do that on steals/pickoffs when the throw is right over it….

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it's not a force out

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 5, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

did i mention

how happy i am that i don’t have to listen to jay randolph and frank cusamano today?

because i am happy about it

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 5, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 5, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

keep throwing that curve arroyo. That is such a meatball.

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yyyyyeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssss

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by MUGATU on Jul 5, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

COLBBBBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Felonius_Monk on Jul 5, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GR Double

saves a run…

"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground."

by TNTinCO on Jul 5, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not if luddy

has anything to say about it……

"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson

by MUGATU on Jul 5, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Colby

having a nice game.

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by spants on Jul 5, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

another XBH?

really colby colby Als ticked

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 5, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

raz!

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by prophetjohn on Jul 5, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he was running forever

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs