Game 83 Open Thread -- July 4, 2009
St. Louis Cardinals at Cincinnati Reds, Jul 4, 2009 1:10 PM EDT
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| Thompson | Owings |
| 4.77 FIP | 5.39 FIP |
On our side, it's a good thing that Thompson has a 56.5% GB% b/c a 2.81 K/9 is just unworkable in the majors. He just can't survive for long allowing everyone to put the ball in play. If the Reds don't hit the ball out of the ballpark, they could certainly single him to death. Thompson has 6 starts so far this season and has an above average game score in only 1 of them. He's been beaten around in his last 2 starts and it seems to be a race between he and Wellemeyer to see who loses his job when Lohse returns from the DL. Wellemeyer seemed to have a leg up before his impressive start a couple days ago so now Thompson's probably ahead by a nose. Here's hoping he pitches well enough today to fall behind Wellemeyer once again.
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Boog out of the lineup with an upset stomach
He and Raz need to stop eating sliders before the game. T-Green in his place.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 4, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no more skyline chili!!!!
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 4, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's easier said than done
but I prefer Goldstar myself
Albert Pujols is ridiculous.
by stlhulsey on Jul 4, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
duncan and ankiel start over ludwick
/sigh
by kalmavet on Jul 4, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ankiel once had a dream he was 3-4 against Owings
Tony’s just playing the numbers man.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 4, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That had to be a weird conversation:
Hey Tony, I had the coolest dream last night…….
by fuegophil on Jul 4, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Colby speed
With only the 7th most baserunning opportunities on the team (OPPS), such as opportunities to advance on balls in play or steal bases etc., Colby’s EQPBR, or runs earned on the base paths above the average, is 1.997, which is best on the team.
In 2006 Colby stole 28 bags in 36 attempts, (77.7%) almost Jacoby #‘s, granted against weaker catcher’s arms and slower pitcher’s deliveries.
So, Colby is obviously fast, but he is a great baserunner too. This is one large reason why his lack of walks and therefore OBP practically equalling his average is a concern.
Tony should consider batting Colby in front of Yadi until he starts walking more in front of Pujols, then again maybe the two hole will only ever see strikes due to fear of Pujols. By batting in front of Yadi he can show off his speed and steal more bases (Larussa probably is hesitent to send runnners batting in front of Pujols), or run on hit and runs. Yadi after all rarely swings and misses.
Batting order doesn’t really matter though according to Bill James. But I would like to see Colby attempt to steal more often which wont happen in the 2 spot.
by voigtzr on Jul 4, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wrong thread
but you’re right on.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jul 4, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
COLBY JACK!
Albert Pujols is ridiculous.
by stlhulsey on Jul 4, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Robot Approved
COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Colby!
Love Shannon’s call: “here’s the pitch and a home run.”
by TNTinCO on Jul 4, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and Colby slugs!
Can’t wait for his Old Man Strength.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 4, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Albert talking about Gehrig's bat is fascinating
He puts his hand on it and spits out all these technical estimates.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 4, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
pujols + one above average outfielder = division title
by dugmartsch on Jul 4, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so you think we are set for the division title
with the roster as is?
by Evilfrog on Jul 4, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ healthy carpenter...
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 4, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like some rain is falling
What’s the radar like?
by cloistermaximus on Jul 4, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
5-0 Brewers in the 1st
THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!
by stltrav09 on Jul 4, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't have a problem with that
Don’t like the Cubs putting together a string of wins, even if it does help the birds out. Plus, their win last night was thanks to a shitty call by the home plate ump.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 4, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hoping for a split of the 4 game series.
That means GO BREWERS today and tomorrow.
THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!
by stltrav09 on Jul 4, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
take two of three in head to head match-ups and hope division play is split 50-50.
Don’t want anyone putting any runs together against anybody.
by dugmartsch on Jul 4, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
O Rick. . .
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thompson is not looking sharp
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just got home
colby jacked?
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
my man
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reds' channel replay was terrible...
did Ankiel mess up ?
by the Tewk on Jul 4, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't get
MLB.tv to work. Media errors everywhere.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 4, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
working for me
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There must be some sort of
MLB.tv balance sheet. One of us has to have problems, it seems.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 4, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB Extra Innings - I can't find the game?
Anyone? Help?
by Expatcardfan on Jul 4, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No Saturday day games on EI
Fox rules Saturdays.
by TNTinCO on Jul 4, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't like this matchup
If brad sinks that ball inside to Bruce he’ll put it in the seats
by cloistermaximus on Jul 4, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
man
thompson looks awful
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did Al just say.....
That when Tony makes a move that might look iffy to some, we as fans probably DON’T know the entire story?
Hmm…..
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
by SoonerfanTU on Jul 4, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not disagreeing
with this sentiment, but I also think Al talks out of his ass quite often.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 4, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al is Tony's sock puppet.
only you would grasp at that straw.
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've heard Al be very critical of Tony.
And it isn’t like he didn’t give examples.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
by SoonerfanTU on Jul 4, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So everyone should shut up and never say anything again.
Ever.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 6, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damage control
Nice job Brad
THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!
by stltrav09 on Jul 4, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that was a hell of a first pitch
from thompson with one out and a runner on third.
Dare I say, clutch?
by dugmartsch on Jul 4, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This should be fun
At my parents house with the satellite and a storm comparable to Noah’s flood… I see this going exceptionally well for some reason.
by ducttape16 on Jul 4, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and again
I love that moment when Albert’s processors assess the situation and decides on the best course of action. Then executes.
self-quote
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 4, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice work, getting out of it, pk
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cubs strand bases loaded.
5-0 Crew end of 1.
Soriano out of the leadoff spot (bout time).. batting 6th. He ended the ending with a dribbler to 3rd base.
THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!
by stltrav09 on Jul 4, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm already considering tomorrow's game
because… it would be nice psychologically to be in first place at the AS break.
but mostly because.. is Carpenter REALLY back?
key game for him… and us.
by the Tewk on Jul 4, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Blind Hog syndrome for Thursty
finally found a hit!
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by gocards62 on Jul 4, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thursty was 0 for 12
ankiel hanging on 0 for 9
keep Hoff and call up the Walrus
by the Tewk on Jul 4, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone
remember the VeB poster who had ALS? I can’t remember her handle…
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 4, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind. Found her.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 4, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do we play the Brewers after the Reds
That’s one important series…Better hurry up and start getting certain people to hit
My avatar is 3 years into the future for sure...
by Taskmaster on Jul 4, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's go, Greene T
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by gocards62 on Jul 4, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Dan's description as a "stomach issue"
sounds like the runs to me…
by ducttape16 on Jul 4, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is gameday right?
Is this strike zone really that small?
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 4, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whatever it was,
Greene T took “strike 3”
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by gocards62 on Jul 4, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the heck were you looking for Greene???
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm assuming he wanted the ball on a tee.
At least that’s the excuse I’d go with if I were him.
by ducttape16 on Jul 4, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swing the bat Greene...
My avatar is 3 years into the future for sure...
by Taskmaster on Jul 4, 2009 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tyler Greene might be the worst player on the team
by dcfcblues on Jul 4, 2009 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No, that honor is reserved for Thurston
by stl522 on Jul 4, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a chance
Greene has better power and can actually field a positioin
by stl522 on Jul 4, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thurston can field a position
he is just being played out of position.
and Greene has no more power than Thurston, sorry.
by dcfcblues on Jul 4, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and don't take this as me being a Thurston fan
I think he’s awful, but as bad as he is, he’s still better than Greene.
by dcfcblues on Jul 4, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what happened to tyler?
he used to know how to hit
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by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
in his last ML stint
and then in AAA between then and when he got called back up
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd hang my hat on the 1500 minor league ABs in between...
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jul 4, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I vaguely remember a flukely first week up
but his offense so far shouldn’t really be that surprising to anyone given his minor league track record.
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but
not this bad
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by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
He’s always been pretty poor (average and OBP wise) with the bat. He has shown a bit of pop, but that was in the PCL which is a hitters league.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 4, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
awful at-bat
failure is one thing, just standing there doing nothing is another
by kalmavet on Jul 4, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nasty
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
by Paulspike on Jul 4, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they're so reading VEB
“Maybe in about three years we’ll see [Thompson’s stache].”
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 4, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Brad Thompson is still pitching for us in 3 years
something has gone horribly wrong with our team.
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
original comment
here was “spring training / 2006”, iirc.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 4, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The starters are growing staches, but it's hard to tell if PK is...
that line reminds me a bit too much SuperTroopers.
by ducttape16 on Jul 4, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't care if he's a good hitting pitcher
That’s pathetic PK
by dcfcblues on Jul 4, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't care how good a hitter he is
you just gave up a home run to the GD pitcher.
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
served up on a T
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by gocards62 on Jul 4, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The wheels on the bus are falling off
falling off
falling off
The wheels on the bus are falling off
on the 4th of July
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Thompson bus that is
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well Wellemeyer pitched well in his last start
This is most likely Thompson’s last start. Lohse will be back next start
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 4, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but there's a doubleheader
we’ll see both thompson and welly start again
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by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cute..
but false
THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!
by stltrav09 on Jul 4, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been called that before. . .
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is this the most enjoyable team from a facial hair standpoint in recent history?
by ducttape16 on Jul 4, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i couldn't stop laughing
at that shot of lohse
by alkane111 on Jul 4, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thurston almost did the exact same thing he did yesterday
by dcfcblues on Jul 4, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
at least we're enjoying something on the field
other than AP
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 4, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dang, reply fail. to ducttape
that reload is tricky
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 4, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has to have the least baseball sense of any MLBer I've ever seen
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jul 4, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shit, Votto is smiling
This game is about to get out of hand
by cloistermaximus on Jul 4, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think albert proved yesterday
that any game in which he plays is never out of hand.
by dugmartsch on Jul 4, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the offset angle
makes that look a lot more generous than it was. I really like that we get the good angle for our home games.
by dugmartsch on Jul 4, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yah, the angle made it look like a ball
by cloistermaximus on Jul 4, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gameday was marginal
but it looks he saw four strikes, one of which was called a ball.
by dugmartsch on Jul 4, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's no competition...
thompson goes when Lohse comes back.
by guayzimi on Jul 4, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thompson has thrown a few great pitches
and then one or two really awful ones.
by DanUpBaby on Jul 4, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wonder Brad
I stood where no man goes...
by Desert_Rat on Jul 4, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Owings may be a good hitter
But he’s terrible Pitcher. Let’s get that run back boys.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 4, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ot: joey chestnut wins
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 4, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the real winners are the obese...
They can feel a bit better about themselves for one afternoon.
by ducttape16 on Jul 4, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
only those who are obese because of over-eating
Be precise with your shots, dude.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 4, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
I will hang my head in shame.
by ducttape16 on Jul 4, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Color me confused with this PC flag?
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jul 4, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
more than one way to become obese
Some conditions are not the person’s fault.
Sorry, I was off stuffing my face.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 4, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me or is this strike zone crazy?
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 4, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's crazy.
It’s wide, but not tall. At least it’s consistent (so far)
by cloistermaximus on Jul 4, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is short and fat
Calling outside pitches and not calling lower pitches
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 4, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the 90s
strike zone, pre-Questec. Well, maybe not that bad.
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by spants on Jul 4, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did TLR say that Colby is going to be in lineup a lot more?
That’s what Horton just said TLR said
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 4, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Owings pickoff move is terrible
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry
he’ll still pickoff thurston
Albert Pujols is ridiculous.
by stlhulsey on Jul 4, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure a little leaguer with a below average pickoff move
could nail Thurston by 5 feet.
by ducttape16 on Jul 4, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when Joe Thurston was young
he hit .475 but was picked off, once or twice a game, by the coach-pitcher. He’s never forgiven his father.
by DanUpBaby on Jul 4, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Phillips you aren't Albert
sit down
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sorry but i hate
ingame segments of any kind
by dugmartsch on Jul 4, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
could duncan
make contact with that beach ball?
by alkane111 on Jul 4, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
another AP UIBB
with a few extra swings
I stood where no man goes...
by Desert_Rat on Jul 4, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
out on 3 pitches again
I stood where no man goes...
by Desert_Rat on Jul 4, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's been a strike all day Duncan
You should have bunted
by cloistermaximus on Jul 4, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dear Mark DeRosa
come back soon. we need you
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not a strike
but he’s been calling it today
by alkane111 on Jul 4, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Ludwick sick or something?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 4, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it too much to ask for Ankiel to just get one hit?
by stl522 on Jul 4, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There are so many terrible players on this team
Duncan, Ankiel, Thurston, Tyler Greene
by dcfcblues on Jul 4, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
putting Ank, Dunc, and Thurston
all in the same lineup is effectively self-sabotage. I could possibly bear it if they were just non-factors, but they are all actively hurting this team.
by mattyp on Jul 4, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
btw, the biggest contribution they could make to this team
right now would be to refuse to take the field. Do baseball players ever do that? I guess I can hope…
by mattyp on Jul 4, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In defense
I’m not sure that I want to write off Duncan and Ankiel as terrible players. Just players doing terribly.
by Expatcardfan on Jul 4, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tyler Greene sure can field his position
by dcfcblues on Jul 4, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice datapoint
in the green>thurston argument.
by dugmartsch on Jul 4, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're better than that Tyler
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dear Brendan Ryan
get well soon. we need you.
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ps: start eating with Colby, and his new diet
by Expatcardfan on Jul 4, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one still amazed by Colby's injury?
As someone who has a very strict diet (MORE PROTEIN PLEASE), it just doesn’t seem that hard to get these kinds of things right especially when you have trainers like the Cardinals do.
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you ever think
you’d be typing that??
by TNTinCO on Jul 4, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boog has been a pleasant surprise this year
by dcfcblues on Jul 4, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I absolutely agree
I’ve always liked him… but never thought someone would be saying “we need you” this year.
by TNTinCO on Jul 4, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think his offense is necessarily as good as he's been this far
but his glove has always looked good.
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I take that back
I think this is his offensive level. .300/.340/.400 I thought he was hitting better than that
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'll take those lines
from a gold glove caliber shortstop
by dcfcblues on Jul 4, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Colby's range.
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by spants on Jul 4, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Razzums
is awesome
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i understand its an out for the home team
but could you at least show the play again and admit it was quite a ways to run?
Thx
by dugmartsch on Jul 4, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SERIOUSLY???????????
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DID THAT JUST EFFING HAPPEN???????
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you kidding me yadi?
don’t throw that ball
by DanUpBaby on Jul 4, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Especially
with Thurston on third. But even with a real 3bman there…
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 4, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, I guess it doesn't matter now
Brad’s always there to pick up his teammates.
by DanUpBaby on Jul 4, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thompson isn't a pitcher with good enough stuff to pitch around mistakes.
He, like Pinero, is completely dependent on his defense.
by DriverZn on Jul 4, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Heavens
these flyballs are all on the track.
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by azruavatar on Jul 4, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i was just thinking
what a nice young man brad thompson is.
by dugmartsch on Jul 4, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Those two errors hurt. He should have never been on base to begin with.
by stl522 on Jul 4, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Where is the offense Al?
Have you watched the team this year?
Have you looked at the lineup?
by dcfcblues on Jul 4, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he says that
and then quotes a stat about how carp has bad run support. he doesn’t know what he’s saying
by alkane111 on Jul 4, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They really have only scored 1 run against Owings?
by cloistermaximus on Jul 4, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it's the Cardinals, remember?
Derosa.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 4, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happened to Thompsons control?
Not walking people was the only thing that kept him a borderline MLB pitcher. If his walk rate goes up to average its time to swap him for Boggs or Walters.
by DriverZn on Jul 4, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Obviously you haven't been watching the AAA Box Score
Walters and Boggs have self imploded
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 4, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
then hawk
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by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How Bout
Todd in the Bullpen, Lohse in the Rotation, and PK in Memphis
I am not a fan of the Hawk
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 4, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm undecided on hawk. i made up my mind about pk a long time ago
and we have one more start to fill. lohse can’t throw both dheader games against the cubs
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by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well Lohse's next rotation start would be the same day as
Wellemeyer so he probably does the DH with him. The next day will most likely be PK’s last in the majors.
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 4, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
When Lohse comes off the DL he has to take someone’s spot. It wont be PK cause they need him the next day.
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 4, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"the next day"
is the start of the all star break
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by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol ankiel almost let that go over his head
by FunkeeC on Jul 4, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he was trying to dec the runner
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by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone got an update on derosas return date?
by cardfan124 on Jul 4, 2009 2:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
tuesday
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by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love the Greene hitting 9th
under what set of circumstances does he get on base in front of Albert? or is TLR just making the blanket policy of hitting crappy hitters ninth to save some egos. I think the former is a cover up for the latter.
by Expatcardfan on Jul 4, 2009 2:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm confused...
Is Al saying we’re going to play Apu in beer? Honestly there needs to be a dump button when he starts rambling like ths.
by ducttape16 on Jul 4, 2009 2:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so AP is not only advising our offense
He’s positioning our defense?
Ridiculous.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 4, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Player-manager time
Save some money on the TLR salary that way.
by ducttape16 on Jul 4, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
do the current rules allow player-managers?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 4, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If not I'm sure we can find a figure head.
And if they don’t why not… all sports could be made better by player managers or player coaches.
by ducttape16 on Jul 4, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Albert still needs his D Duncan, though
…Yadi?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 4, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say we have a fan drawing everyday for the manager...
get some more people to the park. Get to take the uniform home with you… it’d be great.
by ducttape16 on Jul 4, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a different lineup every game?
Heyyyyyy.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 4, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah Apu is smart enough to keep a someone constant lineup...
Part of the promotion is you don’t get to make actual decisions… just relay the decisions Apu makes.
by ducttape16 on Jul 4, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not only lefties we can't hit anymore
These last 2 pitchers were horrible righties, and we still can’t hit.
by dcfcblues on Jul 4, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We're thrown off by the stars and strips on the hats...
by ducttape16 on Jul 4, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true, with normal hats we were ripping the cover off the ball
by cardfan124 on Jul 4, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was using that as an excuse about not being able to hit crappy righties...
not for all the anemic offense problems.
by ducttape16 on Jul 4, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
got a link for your viewing pleasure
But the text is all in korean and you have to use IE to view it. Plus you have to download some programming and it is in korean also.
But, if you do go through all of that, the password is wdscore
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by scoot on Jul 4, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That should just about put this one out of reach
nice pitch Brad.
by dcfcblues on Jul 4, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what if
votto had been healthy all year
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by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he'd be the 2nd best first baseman in the NL
by dcfcblues on Jul 4, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe
but prince fielder is a monster so far this year
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by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can barely watch this shit
its just ugly
by cardfan124 on Jul 4, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wonder if we can replace Thurston with a metal plate
and just let it deflect balls to SS. For the AB, just see if the pitcher can throw 4 strikes or use a pinch runner.
by DriverZn on Jul 4, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hawk, plz
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by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
woo
big strikeout
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by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, at least Franklin gets the day off
And we have Carp going tomorrow. Shame we’ll have to share 1st with the Brewers again.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 4, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We scored 7 yesterday, its not over yet
Optimism, some times you need it.
by DriverZn on Jul 4, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yesterday was nice
But it was the ONLY time this whole year they had ever overcome a 3 run deficit later than the 7th.
Thurstan, you suck.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 4, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gah!
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by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know we've won three in a row
but I can’t remember the last time I felt like we ran away with a game.
What happened to that number 1 offense in april?
by cardfan124 on Jul 4, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
albert is not impressed with thrusty's choice
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by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
neither am i
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Jul 4, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
another mental error
what is that 20.
by TheBirds on Jul 4, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thurston is so dumb.
Willy T was running, you go home with it
by stl522 on Jul 4, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Would be nice to have a legit 3rd baseman
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
by KYCards on Jul 4, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
tuesday
patience, young padawan
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by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What Glaus will be back Tuesday and healthy??
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
by KYCards on Jul 4, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't wait to see what TLR has to say about that one
I know it’s bad to badmouth your players to the media, but I wish he would for me. Just this once.
by TheBirds on Jul 4, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh if he says "Joe is Joe"
that’s the closest you’ll get.
by ducttape16 on Jul 4, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3-4-5 Hitters up, Owings on the mound
If they don’t score in this inning I’m going to start gathering fireworks.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 4, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
seriously Thurston
you have the worst decision making skills of any player I have seen in the big leauges
The Redbirds are of the highest priority to me... As it should be
by ANDYAK47 on Jul 4, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice to
see Albert go the other way.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 4, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chris should do the same.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 4, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is good at the BB.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 4, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tigers woods
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by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shannon is laughing at Ankiel's swinging tendencies
Not a good sign
by Expatcardfan on Jul 4, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The change up has been getting Dicky all season long
Any non fastballs have been doing that.
by ducttape16 on Jul 4, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anybody that walks duncan
should be fired immediately.
by cdc81 on Jul 4, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No, That would
be if they walked Ankiel. They’d have to pitch like Ank to walk him.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 4, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hairston almost made that DP.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 4, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damn
hairston is tough
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by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Duncan went completely out of his way on that one, gotta love it
by stl522 on Jul 4, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hahaha, that replay is crazy
He just homed in on him.
by TheBirds on Jul 4, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Albert!
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 4, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HAHA
ridiculous
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by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
non-game-related
I’m an out-of-state fan visiting Busch III for the first time this summer. I have SRO tix and seated tix for two of the Cubs games in September. Are SRO tix worth trying? They are section 500 and section 100. Where are those areas? Any help is appreciated.
by Cardaholic on Jul 4, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it's cardinal baseball
any tix are worth it
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by prophetjohn on Jul 4, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 4, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did we just score a run as they were attempting to go around the horn???
What the hell was that?
by ducttape16 on Jul 4, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Classic bait and switch...
I stood where no man goes...
by Desert_Rat on Jul 4, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
God if Thurston had Pujols' instincts he would be a great AAA player
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jul 4, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you can generally count on the Reds...
muffing something up eventually
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