Return of Goodemeyer
by DanUpBaby on Jul 3, 2009 7:00 AM EDT
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Giving up that home run at the end lends a little realism to the outing—it's like killing off one of the secondary main characters in an action movie so that you can get the romantic leads through unscathed. So I applaud Todd Wellemeyer for his attention to plotting, particularly the way that he wrote in a happy ending.
The Colonel—always an interesting interview, inasmuch as he has probably never seen Bull Durham—is one of the few pitchers who I've seen regularly discuss his velocity in print. His most recent musings on the subject were in this Strauss article, in which he said he was down from "94-96" to the low-90s, but it's a recurring theme; in this MLB.com article from his Kansas City days he uses it as a proxy for his preparedness in Spring Training, noting that he's moved above "88-90" earlier than he usually does in an attempt to make the starting rotation (a preposterous notion.)
It's an interesting tic for a guy whose success last year was attributed to—well, Dan'n'Al 2008, can you take this?
Dan: You know, Al, in the past when we've seen Todd he's been more of a thrower. He just reared back and—but this year you can see him taking a little off so that it moves.
Al: He really is, Dan. He's become a pitcher, not a thrower.
Thanks, guys. For all that talk, then, Wellemeyer is, at the very least, a guy who self-identifies as a hard thrower.
After the most recent quote Dave Cameron wrote on Fangraphs that Wellemeyer's math was off but his concern well-placed—his velocity hadn't dropped five miles an hour on average, but it had lost that mid-90s top-end. So it was interesting to see Wellemeyer, in this comeback outing, go with a very obvious, very deliberate fastballs-first approach.
It was heartening to see him go Out There with a plan at all; lately Wellemeyer has pitched so poorly that it has been impossible to see what, if anything, he was trying to do out there, aside from dodging line drives. All the team's other starters are easily typecast; Carpenter has perfect command, Wainwright has the big curveball, Pineiro and Thompson pitch, with varying degrees of success, as though the strikeout is an ungentlemanly pursuit. But when Wellemeyer's not striking people out he has no identity—he's a power pitcher without the power, a Thrower without the velocity.
But last night's plan wasn't just visible, it was executed. Wellemeyer began by more or less abandoning the changeup he was heavily reliant on earlier in the year; Gameday only caught three in the first five innings, and two of those were used to record outs against noted free-swinger Pablo Sandoval. Instead, it was all fastballs and hard sliders—not just that, but all fastballs until he was ahead of a hitter. The at-bat against Rowand was the first one of the game in which he threw a breaking ball without having a strike on the batter.
When he brought out the slider, most notably in the fifth inning at-bat against Rowand in which he threw nothing but sliders and got three swinging strikes—more than he got in the entirety of his first outing of the year—it was like he had justified it to himself before he threw it. Everything was like that—I can't think of a better word than deliberate. It was a good thing to see for a pitcher who has struggled to understand his own successes and failures over the last year and a half.
Of course, this preparation probably wouldn't have gone so well if his fastball hadn't reappeared, and if that works for Wellemeyer as justification for last night's success it's just as well. The top-end wasn't quite as amped up as he remembers it, but it was there—early in the game he hit 93-94 with startling consistency, and he topped out at 92 as late as the eighth inning. More worrisome for opposing hitters might be the fact that his slider, which was almost cutter-like in its utility and velocity, topped out as high as 87.
As you might expect, all of this has already been ascribed to a Coaching Moment, preserved here for posterity:
That way meant the way Wellemeyer rediscovered during his bullpen session Monday. Wellemeyer had abandoned the between-start session because of ongoing frustration with his delivery. He spent more than 30 minutes just talking with Duncan and bullpen coach Marty Mason about what he felt was wrong. After he made some throws "at about 50 percent," they determined it was his balance. When he lifted his front leg, Wellemeyer was tilting toward third base.
The lack of balance foiled his command, and any attempt to gather his delivery threw him further out of whack.
"We narrowed it down to the most simple thing, the No. 1 thing for all pitchers, which is finding a balance point," Wellemeyer said. "Just one consistent delivery ... where every pitch is the same, every delivery is the same."
Someone better-acquainted than I with pitchf/x could (and should) probably make an interesting fanpost about whether or not this shows up in the data. But it's good to see that the Cardinals have some medium-term plan for this mystery spot in the rotation, even if it isn't, as I thought it should be last week, riding Well-e out of the rotation on a rail.
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A very good night
for Welly, and a very good night for the whole lineup. Let it be the start of something important like a 9 game winning streak!
by SuperSeve on Jul 3, 2009 7:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, Seve!
Another face I haven’t seen around here for quite some time. Where you been?
You can't teach a hammer to love nails.
by the red baron on Jul 3, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not much time...
…. but still following baseball and lurking this good site!
GO CARDS!!!
by SuperSeve on Jul 3, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gotta agree
GO CARDS!
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 3, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great job 'ups
IMO the Colonel is more mercurial than Boog, so I dig the coaching moments and the shades.
Division rivalries! Cards neck and neck with the Brew Crew. Reds: 2 back. Cubs: 2.5 back. Stros: 3 back. Pirates: debuting reality-show winners in minors, weather permitting. I mean, 6 back.
Who’s excited? And/or stocking up on the booze?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 3, 2009 9:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thrilled for the end of the First Act and the beginning of the Second
(That is, if a baseball season is merely a two-act play….)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jul 3, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm hoping for a third act that
ends with 11 victories.
by stlfan on Jul 3, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Of course! Whomever shall we get to author the dramatic climax of ’09?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jul 3, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
to
me the season doesnt really start until august
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
by DESTROYER on Jul 3, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you don't
get all excited when pitchers and catchers report?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 3, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Shit
That is when I get so excited. I am bored all winter long talking just bull shit about what if’s.
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 3, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too!
And I don’t care about football, so winters are pretty fucking boring.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 3, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
EH
dont care about football either but my other passion besides baseball is hockey since i play it all year round, out here in KC in the rec leagues
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
by DESTROYER on Jul 3, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pre-stoppage
I loved hockey. Maybe I should give it another shot.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 3, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should watch the Blues now...
They’re an up and coming team and are actually fun to watch. I boycotted for one season when Pronger got sent packing for Erik F’ing Brewer, but I could not stay away long…
by stlfan on Jul 4, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I caught a bit
of the playoffs. Hockey is definitely fun to watch.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 4, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where do you play hockey in KC?
Are there any roller leagues?
by stlfan on Jul 4, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It does make for a long december
(scroll down for comment to make more, lamer sense.)
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 3, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stock of booze
never runs out. It’s the occasion to hit the stock that is missing since a while…
GO CARDS!!!
by SuperSeve on Jul 3, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 'stros really need to go all-out this year
they’re going to utterly suck for about the next five years and this is their last chance to get close to the post-season. If I were them, I’d deal every meaningful prospect (i.e. not very much) in the high minors, start again from the ground up and try to have a last hurrah this year. They’re really going to be irrelevant for quite a while now.
In other news, the reds and especially the cubs worry me a lot more than the brew crew do. I think all four teams could still be in it in a month or two.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 3, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They've already done that
They’ve dealt every meaningful prospect for the team they currently have. Now they should be rebuilding. Instead, they’re looking to FURTHER gut their system and leap into contention.
My friend is an Astros fan, and it’s all he can do to watch them play without throwing up and/or crying.
by mojowo11 on Jul 3, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I liked about last night
was that Lud’s 2 hits required a bit of luck. A few of his hits start finding holes and maybe he can get going.
by sdrone on Jul 3, 2009 9:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
personally
I’d have prefered two no-doubter moonshots, but there ya go…
Unless you’re suggesting that, luck is, like, repeatable, or something. I don’t really get it.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 3, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like to see his terrible luck
finally turning around. But, yeah, I’d rather see line drives.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 3, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how do we know it's "turning around"?
that’s what I’m saying. He might hit 4 line drives straight into fielders’ gloves tonight. If you toss two heads after ten tails, you could say “phew, my luck’s turning”, but you’re just as likely to toss ten more tails as you were in the first place. He’s no more likely to “be more lucky” now than he was this time yesterday.
We’re all better off hoping for improvements in Lud’s (or any players’) actual performance. Luck will take care of itself in the long-run.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 3, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the at-bats
Those hits were preceded by productive at-bats. That’s what I really wanted to see out of Ludwick, so for myself I’m cautiously optimistic.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 3, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wednesday night, he had at least two very good PAs that I remember
The RBI single he lifted to the opposite field on what I remember to be a breaking ball in the first and the walk to load the bases for Duncan later on in the game. Very heartening.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jul 3, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had
a double and a triple a few days ago, no? Luddy has been productive this series.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 3, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and they were both off the wall (one might have short-hopped the wall)
in almost the same spot, a little to the right of dead center – he hit them a long way. His singles last night were pretty well hit too; very nice to see.
by BTown Birds fan on Jul 3, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought his triple was either a homer or an out
it hit right off the top of the wall & bounced away from the CF & RF.
but yeah, it’s about time his hits started falling. we can’t win without StudWick being StudWick
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jul 3, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Part of Lud's probably is that his BABIP (luck) has been horrible
Those types of hits are usually outs for him.
by sdrone on Jul 3, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe him getting a little lucky with dribblers will boost his confidence
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 3, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shows what I know
I had pretty much given up on Wellemeyer. If duncan and mason are that good let’d get P J Walters up here and resurrect him.
by ridgesee on Jul 3, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
IF Welley has two more similar starts
it will be like trading for a SP—big bonus. Hope he can keep it up
The next question: can Lohse make a full recovery? Sounds like he needs one more rehab start.
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by gocards62 on Jul 3, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know gocards62
it really will.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 3, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
if taking half a season to fix a simple, fundamental flaw qualifies as some sort of coaching miracle.
Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...
by giveml on Jul 3, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It really makes one wonder, doesn't it?
Especially after Carpenter “fixed” Wainwright’s released point. Does Duncan not watch film for mechanical flaws? Does he not pay attention when they are winding up? Or, does he merely sit on an empty bucket flipped upside-down and shout, “Throw the two-seamer again! Again!”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jul 3, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
Duncan helps pitchers with their preparation and game plans, not with their mechanics. Besides, he’s just one man!
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 3, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mechanics are Mason's job.
He must be taking this year off mentally after last year’s bullpen’s fiasco.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 3, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This
Duncan’s Job is to take a pitchers strengths and a hitters weakness and give the pitcher a plan to get said hitter out.
Mechanics are something the minor league coach’s and Mason’s jon.
by Evilfrog on Jul 3, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Duncan understood this I would agree
But he seems to want to tinker with pitchers and does more harm than good when he does.
If he stuck to planning, he would be much more valuable.
by DriverZn on Jul 3, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can't teach people
who aren’t ready to learn.
Especially something that has doesn’t have one right answer like pitching mechanics.
by dugmartsch on Jul 3, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought part of it may have had to do with TLR threatening to send him to AAA. I don’t know whee I read it so can’t link to it, but I know I read some quote from TLR that was very obvious this may have been Welly’s last start if he didn’t pitch well.
by sbentley on Jul 3, 2009 10:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That would be
…a sad commentary on Goodemeyer’s ability to be motivated by, you know, a desire to be good.
by mojowo11 on Jul 3, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
o/t: Bench Help
We keep hearing that we have 13 pitchers because there are no likely candidates to be the 13 position player in AAA.
Well, I say its time to trade for some bench help.
Just a few names – Scott Hairston, Ty Wiggington, WIllie Harris, Hector Luna
"Greene over to Schumaker, on to first! Double Play!!"
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 3, 2009 10:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BEN SHEETS
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 3, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ok, I think I misread something
“Hector Luna”?
by sdrone on Jul 3, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's tearing up AAA
as an old guy in a hitters park
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 3, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hector luna > joe thurston
"Greene over to Schumaker, on to first! Double Play!!"
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 3, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
he’s got a soft spot in my heart still
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 3, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh...
luna is on the DL
"Greene over to Schumaker, on to first! Double Play!!"
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 3, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Until you remember him shot-putting that throw to home plate in the '04 World Series.
by AndyB83 on Jul 3, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
scratch wiggington...
3.5 mill for ’10. no thanks
"Greene over to Schumaker, on to first! Double Play!!"
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 3, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not bad value
and we probably need a place-filler for 3B for at least part of the year.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 3, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with Monk
Wigginton would allow both T. Greene and Thurston to be sent out. He can hit and play just about every position.
by BCinVA on Jul 3, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
additionally
“Scratch Wigginton” would be a perfect ballplayer name. I envisage him as a scrappy middle infielder with a serious tobacco chewing habit, whose main quality is his ability to break up double-plays. He probably ends up being a 3rd base coach for Ozzie Guillen or something.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 3, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with
the tobacco part, but the guy has to be a stocky catcher and a grizzled vet.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 3, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure Harris is available?
and/or useful.
Hairston would cost something significant, but I like him, broadly. Same with Wigginton. I can’t help but feel that another three-true-outcomes guy (Wiggy) would drive most of us to suicide, though…
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 3, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not sure if he's available...
just kinda scanned the last place teams for useful players
"Greene over to Schumaker, on to first! Double Play!!"
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 3, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marlins and Nats have some OF depth
KC too. Although a lot of them are LHH (which doesn’t help really) there are some RHH there who could help out. I’ve been saying for a while that trotting Duncan out there every night (especially vs LHP!) is embarassing when we could pick up a league-average guy somewhere for next to nothing.
Other options – Ray Durham. Good bat, durable. Probably still a better 2B than Schumaker.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 3, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when u mentioned Durham...
that made me think of Edmonds. But I have a feeling he’d be similar to Ank or Dunc offensively. I don’t think we get the Jimmy that raked for the Cubs last season
"Greene over to Schumaker, on to first! Double Play!!"
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 3, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hell -
i’m even okay with staying with 13 pitchers if it means no Joe Thurston. or Rick Ankiel. or Chris Duncan…i’ve just had enough, i guess
"Greene over to Schumaker, on to first! Double Play!!"
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 3, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by gocards62 on Jul 3, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still hoping we end up with Brandon Wood as well
Stupid Angels. You’re not playing him, so let us play him.
by mojowo11 on Jul 3, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked the idea of Ty Wiggington,
until I looked up his numbers for this season. Dramatic drop in ISO, OBP, resulting in an AnkDunc-esque wOBA of .305. He has a pretty mediocre defensive reputation as well. Digging further, however, it seems he is having bad luck in his BABIP and HR/FB rates, even as he is hitting more line drives and more fly balls (he’s hitting a huge number of infield flies)
His contact rates are good, but he’s expanding his zone and seeing fewer strikes. I think this might be primarily a result of the O’s ballpark and the AL and especially AL East pitching. There are some similarities to his time in Tampa Bay.
He could be primed for an excellent second half, and he is the quintessential utility man playing competently in every IF spot and a good LF this season. He’s also right handed, and we could send the O’s a few of the guys we aren’t planning to protect in the 2009 Rule 5 draft to get him.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jul 3, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Daniel Descalso has been promoted to Memphis
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 3, 2009 11:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it would be nice if he killed the ball in AAA
possibly have him in STL next year and move Skip back to the outfield.
by riotmute on Jul 3, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am soooo excited about Descalso
seems he’s just come out of nowhere (slightly concerning) a bit like Joey Bombs did last year. He wasn’t on anyone’s top 20 Cards prospects lists last year, and now I reckon he could be as high as #3…
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 3, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sniff
Joey Bombs. If he’s done, I shall miss the guy.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 3, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if Mather comes back strong next year in spring training
I could see him fill the Thurston role on the team. But if he can’t get healthy, who knows? I also wonder about Freese – he had the worst luck ever and now it looks like he might of missed his chance
by riotmute on Jul 3, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mather's
wrist will probably take time to heal. Wrist injuries are a cruel bitch.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 3, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mark DeRosa didn't
have three wrist surgeries in the last year. Mather has.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 3, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lee looks just now...
starting to get his power back.
by Evilfrog on Jul 3, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
people that descalso had a chance to be pretty good
he just hadn’t put up the numbers until this year…kinda like d-jones last year
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 3, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's not like he's been toiling away in the minors for a long time
I believe he was drafted 2 years ago (the Kozma year)
by dcfcblues on Jul 3, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally o/t
but why is every single Cardinals hitting prospect of note left-handed… never worked that out…
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 3, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1 out of 10 Americans are left handed
But more than half of the American presidents have been left handed
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 3, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stupid flanders
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 3, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jul 3, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am left handed
so I still have a chance of being a Cards’ prospect or POTUS? Sweet!
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jul 3, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Example #1,098,375 of why the "win" and the "loss" are absurd "statistics"
The year, 2009. The place, Pittsburgh. The matchup, Mets vs. Pirates. The inning is the ninth, with the Mets up by 2 runs. The pitcher is the exuberant K-Rod who surrenders two runs, blowing the save, which sends the game into extras. The Mets plate a run in the top of the tenth and K-Rod gets the “win.” It’s absurd, I tell you. Absurd!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jul 3, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The bottom line is that K-Rod was in there and the Mets won.
Wins and losses are the ONLY ways to measures a pitcher.
LULZ
Gregatron is not responsible for any of the crap he just wrote.
by Gregatron on Jul 3, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MO's sense of humor
Goold’s interview of Moz regarding Mateo. Skip to about 2.05 minutes remaining if you want a laugh- “It woulda hurt!”
Moz mentions that agents get their clients/prospects to play and display their skills year round. So Moz and his team had a long look, more than just a video of his swing.
http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/bird-land/bird-land/2009/07/bl-blogcasts-gm-mozeliak-talks-wagner-mateo/
by voigtzr on Jul 3, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love
DG. He does some great work.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 3, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am trying to get a screen shot of him ducking, it'd make an awesome avatar
with a little word bubble beside him saying something like, “no Tony you can’t have a 25 man roster of nothing but pitchers & MI’s!”
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jul 3, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sure could've gone for a day game today.
I’m not sure why I wasn’t consulted when the schedule was made.
by BTown Birds fan on Jul 3, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we really don't have enought day games
i am a fan of those
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 3, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, especially on a day that's a holiday for many people
I’m surprised there are only two day games today.
by BTown Birds fan on Jul 3, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
day games are the enemy's of vampires
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jul 3, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was also hoping for day game...
Won’t be able to watch tonight because Counting Crows are playing free in downtown STL.
by AndyB83 on Jul 3, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Counting Crows? Around here?
I thought they were always hangin’ around Omaha?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 3, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ROOOOOUUUUUUNNNNNDDDDDD HERE.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 3, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my god, a counting crows joke.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 3, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha... Yep.
‘Round here in STL… more specifically, under the arch. Not a band I’d pay for, but kind of excited to see them for free.
by AndyB83 on Jul 3, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
burrell and nolasco for ichiro?
i might be in last place but i’m not gonna just give players away.
by adiueordie on Jul 3, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tomorrow Night
Huey Lewis and the News in Milwaukee. Fuck. Yes.
by mopack on Jul 3, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
....
Looks like “Welley Got His Groove Back”.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
by Red Blazer on Jul 3, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
by Red Blazer on Jul 3, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
Epic
I can’t stop laughing
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 3, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
beautiful! I stole it; I needed a profile pic. Moz needs that shot framed and put in his office next to his Colby shrine.
by voigtzr on Jul 3, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I lifted it off DG. It was the interview with Mo about Mateo.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
by Red Blazer on Jul 3, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'll give you $5billion internet dollars for the rights to use it
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jul 3, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hah! I beat you to that one GDM.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
by Red Blazer on Jul 3, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That look is priceless. I still can't stop laughing at it either.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
by Red Blazer on Jul 3, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it is possible to oversaturate this site with that screen shot.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
by Red Blazer on Jul 3, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yadi's mitt
This is my conjecture at what helped Welley. I don’t know about the whole “finding that balance thing”. But I noticed that Yadi was setting up in the heart of the plate with the mitt. My hypothesis was that Welley’s got too much movement on his pitches and he is not able to control the location. However, when Yadi set’s up in the center, sometimes he still gets strikes. I can recall one at bat in particular where he was effectively wild in striking out Sandoval? The pitch was no where near where Yadi was set up, but the pitched moved high and inside.
I guess I could somewhat verify my hypothesis by looking at Welley’s movement and see if it is predictable. But I am too lazy.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
by totalloser on Jul 3, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fangraphs
I meant to say that I could check Fangraphs, but I’ve got to work on a report right now.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
by totalloser on Jul 3, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just about killed my self
So I was talking about the Armoire for my move. I was talking off one of the doors and slipped and started something could not be topped. This 300lb top half just collapsed. Would flying everywhere. Honestly I just feel lucky somehow I didn’t break my big screen.
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 3, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
you phonetic spelling has finally stumped me.
huh?
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 3, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry was jarred
I tried to take apart a big wood object which I should have not done. It failed epically and almost killed me and my TV.
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 3, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not the TV!
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 3, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
The only think I care about in my apartment is my Home Theater Computer, 7.1 Surround System, and my 56in TV everything else is for sale
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 3, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do not need to be at work today
bored out of my mind.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 3, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Think of Skip.
Always works for me.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Jul 3, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn my work computer not having MS PAINT!
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 3, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sporcle.com is your friend.
for time wasting that is.
by paposse on Jul 3, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bernie on the Radio
Do you guys ever listen to Bernie on 101.1? He is not the same guy that he in print. I like him on the radio
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 3, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bernie Interviews Luhnow
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 3, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am really starting to like Mateo
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 3, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm excited about him
and apparently the cardinal org is, too
i wonder if the cards are even kind of trying to get sano.
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jul 3, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
reply fail
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jul 3, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't sound like they will sign Sano
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 3, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he did talk about a Stud DR SS we currently do have
Apparently we signed him last year.
He currently has a .370/.462/.580/1.042 in 26 Games with 6 Triples and 12 SB’s so far. Apparently he is supposed to be a monster with the glove too. Luhnow said his glove was comparable to our recent draft pick Ryan Jackson who is superb with the glove.
It is just the DR summer league but something to keep an eye on
His name is Grabiel Hernandez
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 3, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea...its mildly exciting
stats from the DSL aren’t usually indicitive of future performance…but its good to know he at least knows how to handle his bat
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 3, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
P.S He hit for the cycle last night
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 3, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DJ jones to memphis
or so says scout.com…
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 3, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What?
He just went on the DL
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 3, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh man
i completely read that article incorrectly…sorry for the false infor
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 3, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Today's Lineup
Friday lineup vs. RHP Homer Bailey:
1. Schumaker 2B
2. Duncan LF
3. Pujols 1B
4. Ludwick RF
5. Ankiel CF
6. Molina C
7. Thurston 3B
8. Pineiro P
9. Ryan SS
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 3, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
by MUGATU on Jul 3, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
i wish i could rec those a thousand times
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jul 3, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
These two vids remind me of a family guy episode.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
by Red Blazer on Jul 3, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think i have that one around here somewhere too.......
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
by MUGATU on Jul 3, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TLR just won't allow us to have fun
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jul 3, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
That kid just glides in out of nowhere! Every time!
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 4, 2009 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's so evil!
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 4, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looks like Chuckie.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 4, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the last time (not really) Colby should be starting every day
Is Tony even watching Rick’s at bats?
by OCCardsFan on Jul 3, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto.
Unless it is that hiatal hernia thing again.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
by Red Blazer on Jul 3, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One is the coaches kid
the other is TLR’s pet.
by dcfcblues on Jul 3, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like the coach's kid meme at all
If his name were Chris Doe I think he’d have had a pretty similar career from the moment he reached the majors. Big offense, injury-masked ineffectiveness… this isn’t an uncommon career path.
by DanUpBaby on Jul 3, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of
I think I would like to a Chris Duncan/Shelley Duncan platoon
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 3, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Flim, what's a good place to get info on starting your own beer brewing?
Forgot to bring this up again sooner.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jul 3, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
find a homebrew shop,
and talk to the people there. there is also plenty of general info on the net (wikipedia “homebrewing”). it isn’t really that tough or expensive of a process, and is really fun once you get the hang of it. i believe most homebrew kits are built for beer and winemaking. i used to play around with winemaking, but sold my kit to a friend due to laziness. now i just get to enjoy the final product instead of hassling with the entire process.
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
by MUGATU on Jul 3, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should of said something yesterday
Literally just sold my old startup setup yesterday for only $75.
I recommend this book The Complete Joy of Homebrewing
That book will have everything you need to get started. Now to get actual equipment their is a couple local places such as Worms Way , STL Wine and Beermaking LLC and online sources such as Northern Brewer
First thing you should do is get the catalog from Northern Brewer. That is the place I swear by for the ingredients. The catalog is awesome. STL Wine and Beermaking is the best local place. I don’t go to Worm’s way anymore because they also sell Hydroponic and growing equipment. Every time I have purchased something from that place I get pulled over right away from the Cops. Trying to trump up a drug charge when I am trying to buy beer supplies.
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 3, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
two bats, 30 home runs, no chins
coming soon to a theater near you
by DanUpBaby on Jul 3, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
How many years before people accept he'll never be good again.
He was a flash in the pan, nothing more.
by TheBirds on Jul 3, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is a horrible thing to say about Colby
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 3, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do
you feel the need to convince people to be pessimistic on Chris Duncan?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 3, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it really wasn't smart or fair to Dunk for the team to try & let him play this season
there’s no way he’s 100% after having part of his spine replaced
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jul 3, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pessimistic = realistic in this case
If you want to keep telling yourself he’s going to fix his problems just so you can be optimistic, go ahead. He’s had one good “season” and some people act like that was his norm and what we see now is an anomaly. You are setting yourself up for disappointment.
Watching him play, he has many many issues at the plate that aren’t injury related. But hey, once he gets healthy all that will correct itself.
I don’t see how a bad back keeps Chris Duncan from hitting a breaking ball, or at least telling when the pitcher throws him one. He’s so easy to pitch to, throw a breaking ball for a strike and you are good. Or just throw a fastball to the outside portion of the plate and he’ll try to pull it.
by TheBirds on Jul 3, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It almost sounds like
you’re confusing Ankiel with Duncan. Oh, wait…
I think Duncan is still the same hitter he was in ‘06, he just doesn’t have the same power (due to radical spine surgery). If he regains some of his strength over the next year (I’m not sure he should even be playing this year at all), he could be very useful in 2010 (which sounds like a long time from now, but in reality is only a few months away. I hope we have flying cars by then!).
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 3, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm
not optimistic about it. I’m reserving judgment until he is healthy. I agree with gdm that it’s unfair that he’s with the big club this season.
Oh, and most batters have holes in their swings or approach. Ankiel does, Thurston does, Ludwick does, etc. Jim Edmonds HAD to swing at high fastballs. When he connected it was great, but he often didn’t connect. Duncan is no different. Except he’s had spinal surgery and is lacking power.
He needs time, and unfortunately, the Cardinals didn’t give it to him. Perhaps had Ankiel and/or Ludwick contributed offensively earlier in the season, Chris would’ve been used more as a 4th outfielder. At any rate, I don’t think he’s washed up yet.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 3, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The bigger issue is he should be working this out in AAA
Not in the majors. When your only tools were OBP and Power and you lose 1.5 of those, you don’t have much value left.
by DriverZn on Jul 3, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said that.
“it’s unfair he’s with the big club this season.” And it is unfair.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 3, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every player outside of Pujols has a way to be pitched around
but you have to do something about it. I’m pretty sure Duncan still has the power to pull the ball and get HRs, he just never gets a chance to.
He needs gulp* listen to Hal McRae. They are telling him to take those pitches up the middle or to the opposite field. Then maybe you’ll start seeing pitches you can yank over the fence.
by TheBirds on Jul 3, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has
been going oppo sometimes lately. I believe his last HR (so, so long ago) was to left-center.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 3, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's looked best when hitting the ball back up the middle
But for whatever reason he doesn’t stay with that. I think he’s so worried about hitting HRs that he doesn’t want to stay with that approach. Maybe he can’t physically do it, maybe the pitchers aren’t allowing him to, but he needs to abandon this mentality. He needs to work on being a solid hitter first. If he does that and keeps up his walk rate, he will be worth having. Although he’s probably worth having now because I’m not sure there are any bats above replacement level ready to come up from the minors.
by TheBirds on Jul 3, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know what he's worried about,
but I agree he needs to stick with driving the ball up the middle. Perhaps he’s a bit “out in front” lately. We saw how long it took Luddy to get out of that.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 3, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I cry for Colby.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jul 3, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys ever think.....
That his injury isn’t going to allow him to play everyday? That some days, he is going to “hurt” to much, or that simply, a day of rest is needed? He isn’t 100%. Has that not been documented enough?
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
by SoonerfanTU on Jul 3, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got any evidence of that?
Because it’s unlikely that gastritis would go away for two days and then suddenly crop up again.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jul 3, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
But that doesn’t mean some days aren’t better than others. He is playing through, if not pain, at least a very uncomfortable situation. A day of rest can do wonders when you feel like crap all the time.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
by SoonerfanTU on Jul 3, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's so cliche, this exchange, so let's try to change the flavor.
I’ll admit, TLR has benched Colby for good reasons the last few times (heel pain, gastritis), but can you admit that there have been some pretty unjustifiable benchings as well?
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jul 3, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we get it, you love Tony no matter what
but this has nothing to do with health. it’s his madness about two players success in a few at bats vs a pitcher. Colby could be on a 40 game hitting streak & he wouldn’t have a snow balls chance in hell of starting tonight. until MO gets rid of his toys, he’s going to play them as much as he can.
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jul 3, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and of course
colby ISN"T on any kind of hitting streak (.563 OPS over his last 10 games), and he STILL hasn’t taken a walk since May.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jul 3, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just looked over his June numbers
He is swinging at large amount of balls outside of the zone. Plus, It looks like they might be starting to figure him out. He is hitting fastballs well. But Sliders and especially curve balls are eating him up
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 3, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is streaky, but I though this was the book on him before he got here.
Its not like he has struggled since his rest. Also even struggling he still has value on defense that the other can only wish for.
by DriverZn on Jul 3, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that had finally happened when we got rid of Miles
But now we have thurston and to a lesser extend Rick and Chris.
Tony suffers from the same issue far, far too many people do. They want to reward hard work rather than results. So they often choose to reward someone that appears to try really hard over the person that is successful.
Drew was disliked for lack of effort as a Card despite putting up a 875 ops. Tony seemed to have an issue with Jimmy for a “lack of effort”.
When the goal is to win, you really need to reward results over effort and the team simply doesn’t do that. Sometimes I wonder if TLR and much of STL realizes that “making it look easy” is in fact a skill and not a lack of effort.
by DriverZn on Jul 3, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the last few times he has had good reason
with the ankle injury and than the hernia. But that still leads to people freaking out about it.
by Evilfrog on Jul 3, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What Al Hrabosky can't understand why Colby isn't starting, you know it's bad.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jul 3, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not going to be watching the game tonight
Which is great news for my sanity.
by TheBirds on Jul 3, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy. Fucking. Shit.
TWFS
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jul 3, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 3, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
ALBERT PUJOLS IS RIDICULOUS!
NL player of the month if you can believe it.
http://www.newsobserver.com/1607/story/1594240.html
by RiverRat on Jul 3, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
some of that was against AL teams
he should get AL player of the month too
by adiueordie on Jul 3, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
again, it goes like this peeps
Albert Pujols is ridiculous
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jul 3, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
against the AL last month
12 games, 47 PA, 38 AB, 16 H, 9 HR, 5 IBB, 19 RBI and a 1.771 OPS.
Wow.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jul 3, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Breaking news
The AL has been named Albert Pujols League of the Month
by DanUpBaby on Jul 3, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I read this out loud to my friend
We both had a nice laugh.
Thanks for brightening our lives, DanUp.
by mojowo11 on Jul 4, 2009 4:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why is the Hoff on the team?
i can’t figure it out
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jul 3, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They just don't want to hassle him.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 3, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So that Descalso could be promoted.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jul 3, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You fool
You spoke too soon
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 4, 2009 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha, Just had someone try to write me a check for something I sold on Craigslist
I told them to get cash. I just assumed everyone knew cash only for CL
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 3, 2009 6:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That happened.. .
to me a couple months ago. Nice guy, talked for awhile, then he broke out the checkbook and I told him to come back with cash. He got offended and my wife said I was completely unreasonable. Granted it was $20… But still.
by guayzimi on Jul 3, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just
specify it on your post and you shouldn’t have that problem again. Unless they forget how to read.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 3, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got flagged before cause I said Cash only
No joke. CL can be great but serious flag nazi’s out there also.
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 3, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They "forget" 50% of the time
Or act like you “agreed to a lower amount on the phone.”
CL is CL. Heh. It’s fun.
by sdrone on Jul 3, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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