Game 103 Open Thread: Dodgers at Cardinals
Los Angeles Dodgers at St. Louis Cardinals, Jul 28, 2009 8:15 PM EDT
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| Billingsley | Wainwright |
| 10-5, 3.72 | 11-6, 2.95 |
Wellemeyer to the pen! Boggs to the rotation! Rasmus to the lineup! It is a good day to be a fan of the St. Louis Cardinals, unless you're Todd Wellemeyer. His strikeout rate is not quite as dizzyingly out of line with his career as it was in the majors--at 6.8 per nine innings he's in 2007 territory, though not 2008--but his last three starts in AAA have been extremely impressive. Interestingly enough, he's gotten considerably more of his outs in the air this year than last. It's not enough information to build a case for a New Approach, especially considering his fangraphs pitch selection is almost identical year to year, but it is different.
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frankenstein doesnt scare me
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
So, Soriano takes one:
A. Roy Oswalt is a gentleman- he wouldn’t resort to violence!
B. In the ribs/back.
C. In the thigh.
D. Shoulder and above- “It just got away from me and he got himself hit.”
15=/=25
A
hopefully. I like Roy-O
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
no,
but I’ll be right back…
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
That is amazing
You put everything on it that I suggested. Rec’d!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Soriano will probably strike out
If they try and bean him
by olddomination on Jul 28, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
He gets 4 AB's right?
I vote for B,C, and D twice…but I’m old school like that…
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Jul 28, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
B please
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Fantastic job today everybody
1000 comments in a catch-all thread is pretty damn incredible.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
try this:
http://www.atdhe.net/7404/watch-dodgers-vs-cardinals
It seems to be ESPN; are they broadcasting the game?
It'll probably change over around gametime
Typically these channels run all day just showing different stuff as they go.
Thanks for the link.
that doesnt seem to be working
I get nothing but a black screen and a password enter thingy or whatever. not sure what to do.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
wellemeyer could be a good thing for the 'pen
if he’s used properly I guess. I wonder if this means anything for Motte?
Cardinal fanatic since '82
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions
Booo!
Motte just needs a second pitch. Can’t Franklin teach him one of the 20 billion that he knows?
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
Maybe, but a second pitch would help.
Maybe when he comes in after pitching the night before the previous nights hitters can time his fastball better?
It’s a stretch but it’s all I got.
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
he rarely faces more than 3-4 hitters. i doubt they figure him out from that
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Ask the guy
for the materials cost and for his labor rates. My husband is a mason and he breaks down his estimates so people know exactly what they’re paying for.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
This guy just said $6000.
If it was my house and he was talking to me. I would of already laughed him out of the house
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 28, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll do it for $5500...
I’ll be there tomorrow. Actually, I can come over right now if you want.
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
Once you have that info,
call another company and ask them the same thing.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
But are you the Chosen One?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
"Dad?
Remember when we started ignoring everything Grandpa said?"
“I think you should listen to him now”
/may not be exact word for word, but thats how I remember it
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Who holds back the electric car?
Who makes Steve Gutenberg… a star?
We do! We do!
Now let’s all get drunk and play ping pong!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
"You're NOT a cutter,
I’M a cutter."
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jul 28, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends on stairs,
landings, railings etc… Something basic might run you $20-$30 a square foot.
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
what's the going rate on cedar these days?
Cardinal fanatic since '82
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
This guy is still here
I am came over for Dinner and he is messing up my eating time
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 28, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
If you figure that
a cedar board goes for $1 per linear foot, and you need to build a deck of 12′×12′ you would need around 26 12’ deck boards, so around $312. Add to that the lumber you would need for the underlying structure. I would recommend using pressure treated 2×6, with either PT 4×4′s, or concrete construction blocks (not cinder blocks) for the foundation/corners. (If you want to build it solid out of cedar, I could find the prices for that also.)
The deck will require 16" (on center) spacing for correct structural integrity, so at least 9 joists (more for center bracing), with 4 more boards for the outside of the frame. If you are going for a solid cedar deck, add about $156 more for the necessary lumber. USE SCREWS, nails will inevitably back out over time. For railing, or seating, you will have to price that yourself. Cedar should only be around $1 per linear foot and will last around 20 years, though it will be gray and weathered by about year 10, even with refinishing it every year.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope the numbers are accurate, they are the best I could come up with looking at different lumber yards’ prices.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I appreciate it
You have any feelings towards composites?
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 28, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Composites are fine
and will last regardless if they are used off of, or directly on the ground, whereas cedar will rot quickly on the ground or in constant shade. Composites will mildew, but that is cured with bleach or a pressure washer (dont get too close, though). Composites cost a little more, but will last just as long, more likely longer though.
That said, there aint nothing like a real wood deck.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
by quickly
I mean that the usable life of cedar is decreased if laid on the ground where it will stay wet much longer. Thats also why I suggest concrete construction blocks to raise it from the ground.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
It will be barely off the ground. Maybe a step or two
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 28, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
then the blocks might not work depending on step height
these blocs are only 12" tall, and shaped like pyramids without the point. They are relatively inexpensive and easy to use (minor digging/scraping and leveling required unless your yard is perfectly flat).
On second thought, the blocks will work because of the board height that would rest in their grooved top.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't take this shit
Now he is talking political stuff. GTFO
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 28, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Lineup:
2B – Schumaker
3B – DeRosa
1B – Pujols
LF – Holliday
RF – Ludwick
CF – Rasmus
C – Molina
SS – Ryan
P – Wainwright
Anyone see that now Ank is hurt with a groin strain?
If we are lucky Rasmus and Ank will take turns with thier injuries so we have at least one CF at all times.
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
That's just a fancy way of saying they're...
splitting time. Both are injured and can only play every other day. Whatever…
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
that's a good way of looking at it
Cardinal fanatic since '82
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Now watch them only score two...
…er, I mean THEY WILL ONLY SCORE TWO RUNS AND NO MORE BECAUSE CHAD BILLINGSLEY IS SO DAMNED HANDSOME.
"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 28, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
still not perfect
would rather see Lugo start over Skip at 2B
Cardinal fanatic since '82
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Only against LHers
I love them as a straight platoon.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
fair enough
Cardinal fanatic since '82
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I really like a Lugo/Skip platoon @ 2B
while Ryan gets most of the starts at SS.
In the new and improved offense, Ryan’s slap hitting in the 8(?) hole is fine, and his defense is pretty much second to none in the Cards organization. Meanwhile, Skip plays 2B against RHP and Lugo plays 2B against LHP. They cover each others’ weaknesses. It’s such a natural and obvious situation that even TLR is going to be hard pressed to come up with reasons not to deploy them that way.
Glorious!
No longer patiently awaiting. Raz has arrived.
by RunninRedbird on Jul 28, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
First Colby, Now Ankiel
Colby hurt his heel and Ankiel got to play. Now Ankiel has a groin injury and Colby gets to play. I can tell I’m burnt out on TLR and his machinations. This is just a handy cooincidence (sp)
Cards playoff odds today are at 52%
A win (and a Cubs loss) puts us at 57%, a loss (and a Cubs win) puts us at 46%. These are high leverage games.
F%#& Billy Beane. Actually... I kinda like Holliday
We got Wagonmaker so hopefully we are just waiting on the Cubs to put up a Lose today.
last night killed me. I thought for sure they would lose.
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
it was after the 8th
of course they were going to win being tied and going into extras at Wrigley.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I wanna see a big blue L tonight
Cardinal fanatic since '82
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
how do you do lineouts for text?
I really want to fix your statement
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
strike and /strike inside of these things <>
Whatever you want to strike out in the middle.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
So
(strike)blah blah</strike)
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
blah blah is easier done -blah blah-
blah blah
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
Interesting.
I’ve never looked at the formatting guide.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
this is much easier
Thanks!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I was trying to illustrate with parentheses, so it wouldn't strike out.
Accidentally kept an angle bracket in there.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Thanks!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
click on "show formatting guide" in lower right corner of posting box
dashworddash will produce this-word-
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
Preview Fail
word
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
why, what did I do now?
Cardinal fanatic since '82
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
look down
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
here goes nothing
I wanna see a big blue L tonight every night
Fixed
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
thank you
Cardinal fanatic since '82
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
np
thanks to Spants and RiverRat for the coaching
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe change every to italics to indicate new phrasing
Cardinal fanatic since '82
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
may i suggest?
I wanna see a big blue L tonight every single fucking night.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jul 28, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Since were fixing every thing
I wanna see a big blue white L tonight every single fucking night.

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
also ^we're
/dumbass
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
that's what we needed
Cardinal fanatic since '82
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
ok
I’ll work on it for next time I get an opportunity
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Very light rain in University City, ~5 miles west of downtown
From the radar it looks like a delay is quite likely but there’s a very good chance they’ll get it in.
by BTown Birds fan on Jul 28, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't look good. We need a dome.
http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/graph/USMO0787?from=36hr_topnav_undeclared
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
Neither?
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 28, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
SLU basketball is looking up...no?
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
Being a Rams fan..
…keeps me humble. I’m so used to the Cards kicking ass and taking names for six spring/summer/fall months (most years anyway) that watching the Rams bumble their way through the football season is good for keeping me grounded. Or something like that.
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 28, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The Blues were
good until several years during the 00s and then good again last year. Hope they keep trending up as I’d like to get into hockey again.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Who?
Kidding…
But seriously, I don’t like hockey much. I followed it out of obligation for awhile but two lockouts in 12 years did it for me.
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 28, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The Rams, but I'm biased.
I’m from LA. I hated the Rams then, glad they and the Raiders left. I moved to southern MO and had to deal with the freakin Rams again. Who else would even want them? Go Cards and Go Seahawks.
by SoCalBirdfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
If there is going to be a rain delay can we start Franklin and work backwards?
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
There's really a low chance they will get this game in
This system is moving north-east, so it looks like it will rain consistently for the next 3-4 hours:
here in KC I've been watching that system since last night
it’s moving more due east, but it’s moving awfully slowly. I don’t think they’re going to play tonight.
that's ok, I didn't buy it yet
Cardinal fanatic since '82
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I wanted to chime in on today's thread
re: Ankiel vs. Rasmus, statistics, coin flips, crystal balls, slumps & hot streaks, etc, but I wanted to make sure people saw this, so I figured I’d just post this here….arguments on each side were very interesting and thought provoking, but seemed to me to completely miss the larger point. And I can’t really think of a better way to say this than to post this:

Baseball players are human beings, not coins or dice. Psychology can’t be modeled statistically (unless Billy Beane knows much more than he lets on). It might be a cliche, but the game gets played on the field and the fickleness of the Gods of Baseball is well known.
Just my $.02….
Past performance
does not guarantee future results.
Please consult your physician.
"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 28, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody argued that it guaranteed it.....
But if you give me two lifetime .300 hitters, who after 100 games this season are both hitting .300…..and one of them is 1 for his last 25, and the other is 12 for his last 25…..all things other things equal (and no luck/unlucky arguments with the hits), which one do you want at the plate?
NOBODY will pick the 1 for his last 25 guy.
There are 3 things the average man thinks he can do better than everybody else: build a fire, run a motel, and manage a baseball team.
-- Rocky Bridges
I'll take the 1 for 25 guy
because he’s DUE
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Jul 28, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would if
his name is Albert Pujols.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 28, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
false choice.
what’s the OBP and SLG of each?
couldn’t find an appropriate pair of .300 hitters, but these guys are separated by one point.
nyjer morgan – .303/.366/.380
chase utley – .304/.420/.554
I’ll take utley, and I don’t care whether he’s 12 for his last 12 or 0 for 27.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jul 28, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You said it for me
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 28, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
but you could repeat the same exercise
with guys with roughly equivalent OBP, or SLG, or OPS, or wOBA, or whatever.
In real life, it’s not a Nintendo game, and there may be unforseeable repercussions to playing this or that guy. Obviously the object is to maximize your chances of winning, but the whole reason anybody watches sports to begin with is in the hopes that something improbable will happen.
So, do you ride the hot hand or try to get the slumping guy a vote of confidence so he breaks out of it? Answer: it depends. I don’t think there should be a hard and fast rule, and part of managing I would think would be to read each given situation as accurately as possible.
And even then, sometimes a fan reaches over the railing and takes the ball from Moises Alou. Things happen.
Moises Alou was asked by a reporter a while back
I don’t remember which one exactly about that catch and he stated that he very much doubted that he could have caught it anyway. He let the guy get crucified for years and then comes out and says that. Doesn’t say a whole lot for him, does it?
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 28, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I remember that. His reaction at the time was anything but nonchalant.
I’ve always thought the way Bartman was hounded out of Chicago did not reflect well on the city. IIRC he wasn’t the only one reaching from the stands for that ball.
My nephew is a huge Cubs fan
and he was foaming at the mouth about how they oughta ban Bartman for life.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 28, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Surprised he didn't get shot in that town
100 Years is a long time.
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 28, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Not long enough IMHO
and my nephew might would have if had the chance at the time. Of course, the way some people treated the ump that blew the call in 85 was pretty dispicable. Although I was really pissed at the time myself.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 28, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh.....
I said all things equal. You can assume that means OBP and SLG as well.
I also said two career .300 hitters. Not two guys that are hitting .300 this season.
There are 3 things the average man thinks he can do better than everybody else: build a fire, run a motel, and manage a baseball team.
-- Rocky Bridges
if all things are truly equal, flip a coin.
Fyi, using BA as a shorthand for batting skill is not going to enhance your credibility.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jul 28, 2009 9:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
In baseball,
like many things in life, we are asked to make decisions regarding the future based on imperfect information. I mean, literally, we’re trying to predict the future, which is obviously difficult at best. So, to me, I don’t think either the statistical arguments on the one hand or the intuitive/hunch-type arguments on the other hand can be dismissed.
The manager in the dugout has more information available to him than the fans that second-guess him. He gets to see their demeanor before the game in BP or in the locker room or whatever, and has a chance to perceive an extra bounce in somebody’s step or a slight hanging of the head before the game. And he has access to all the videotape and numerical data his little heart desires. All of that has to be taken into account. To do otherwise IMHO is slacking on doing one’s due diligence.
I wouldn’t trust somebody whose one and only method of deciding which pinch hitter to use was throwing an I Ching anymore than someone whose one and only method was number-crunching.
I don’t remember all of the circumstances of the Gibson WS homer (whether Lasorda had anybody else on the bench, for example). But I do remember that he had two bum knees and was facing Eckersley. What are the odds that he would hit a homer? But the odds don’t score runs, the batters do, and in that case, for whatever reasons which may (or may not) be beyond statistical analysis, he homered.
QED.
here's the thing
The sheer amount of baseball games played per year make it conducive to stats. ANY large number will yield a measurable pattern. That is why there are few stat geeks toiling over football games, because they play three times a year or something. (And I think you better talk to every psychology professor I ever had, because those damn charts sure looked like statistics. Stupid powerpoint…)
Everybody enjoys the game in different ways, and the idea that stat guys — who are measuring what happens in the field — are somehow totally against watching what happens in the field has very little basis. Stat guy are not against you! (Except when they are.)
Also, there are no crystal balls in baseball, in stats or otherwise. The GOB told me so.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
plural fail!
see if you can find it.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
but championships
are decided by small sample sizes. There’s no mathematical model I’m aware of that would have predicted, for example, that the Tigers pitchers would suddenly forget how to field long enough to lose a title. And that’s the bottom line.
So, statistical analysis is great for predicting performance over the regular season marathon, but its value diminishes (to an unknown, perhaps unmeasurable extent) in the October sprint.
Again my position is that both approaches are useful and must be balanced. That to me seems like the secret of the black art of managing.
I say you take the best players you have...
…and throw them out there as much as possible and hope your GM hasn’t failed you and that the GOB are with you for a month.
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 28, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
with you there
and TLR rode Wainwright’s curveball all the way to a ring instead of sticking with the Proven Veteran Brigade.
I think TLR can tell that Rasmus at his peak > Ankiel 2.5, so I’m not fretting. As for the past week, for whatever inexplicable reason, Ankiel hit like a mofo and played a pretty damn good CF, so we didn’t really miss Rasmus. Hopefully Cody comes back and slugs .900 the rest of the season.
you! you practice the black arts? a witch! a witch!
My first comment was refreshed out of existence (witchcraft!) so in short:
Small sample sizes are accounted for by statistic geeks. I don’t think anyone who dabbles in the stuff doesn’t get that — small sample sizes are when you can’t assuredly measure a pattern. All your examples are exclusively these micro-moments… they don’t, for instance, describe all the times the decision/gamble was tried and failed. In many of the discussions this past week, we’ve been talking about decision-making and decision-making processes, so it has been a little heavy, that’s all.
So… I guess I’m not understanding why anyone, or the stat-savvy, or whomever, need to be reminded of the human element. Small sample sizes are when the magic happens. Stat geeks get that. They’re not Adam Dunn (that I know of.)
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
surely
I’m not trying to bash SABR guys or number-crunchers. I just felt after skimming thru the day thread I wanted to offer a non-polemical argument in favor of the ol’ gut. If the discussion had been lopsided in favor of intuition, I’d have weighed in on behalf of the stat guys, because I feel the beauty of baseball is that it requires both clear-eyed analysis and the occasional ballsy gamble.
It’s making decisions during these crucial small sample size moments that I think is not only the most difficult and prone to weirdness/GOB intervention, but it’s also clearly what everybody remembers years later.
Discussions like this are why this is such a kick-ass website =)
Should we open the door to start discussing quantum mechanics and what I believe they call the zero point something or other?
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
I hate rain delays/postponements so very much...
Especially when I’ve done literally nothing all day but wait for the game to come on…
V, b.
and you have a lineup like that...
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
who else fears for Cal Eldred vs. Julio Lugo?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
El Dread
Nice. Just when you think we have some bullpen problems now, there’s that old chestnut. Hoo boy did he ever suck.
"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 28, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
heh
He wasn’t holding the umbrella over Lugo.
They had a nice laugh over it… on camera, that is…
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
so is this thing gonna get called?
or too early to tell? I really want to see a game tonight :(
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions
3 hours of concessions, followed by a reschedule.
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
so are they really going to play?
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
From Goold on Twitter:
dgoold Start of the game delayed by “approaching rain.” No set time. They intend to play. Start time. TBD. #stlcards
6 minutes ago from web
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
this is LA's only trip to STL so they should be highly motivated to get this one in
I’d rather have a long-delayed start than multiple delays which would mess w/ Waino, potentially
day night tommrow?
we shouldn’t need the pen too much
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
works for us night owls
though since i’m not in stl i probably shouldn’t comment on the odds they play this game
Could FSMidwest actually put "delay" on the screen?
I realize somethings up when a Pedro Martinez story is up, but I had to come here to check.
I just made a pizza, a cheapie at that....
And I am not full….
I’ve already started drinking and the game hasnt even started…
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
Instead of going to Cardinals Crew, or someone stupid Best Damn Top 50...
Why don’t they play Cardinal highlights or play a game from last year that the Cards won….
or something of that kind….so stupid if you ask me…
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
Houston already up 1-0 in the top of the first
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
yayish
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
Also, I was so pleased seeing this the first time,
I’ll be posting this all night I believe.
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
The Game is on WGN
if anyone wants to watch while we sit at Rain Delay
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
Memphis bobblehead
series continues w/ A.D.A.M.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
F989879dome just pulled an Albert
tried to stretch a double.
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
^ Fu%$#$&&^%dome
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
Not comparing...
just saying that now that Albert did it, it’s the in thing to do.
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
we can call it a Pu.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
oh hey
I dunno if everybody saw this during the day thread or not, but it’s news to me.
Cards send Unwellemeyer to the bullpen
ST. LOUIS (AP)—The St. Louis Cardinals are sending struggling Todd Wellemeyer(notes) to the bullpen. It did not come as a surprise to the right-hander, 7-9 with a 5.79 ERA.
"I’ll be in the bullpen for who knows how long and try to make the best of it," Wellemeyer said. "We had to switch it up and see how it goes.
"I’m going to make it a good thing for me, that’s all there is to it."
Wellemeyer threw a bullpen session Tuesday before the Cardinals played the Dodgers. Manager Tony La Russa said the pitcher will be available for relief duty beginning Thursday.
"We don’t lack any confidence in what he’s capable of doing, but he’s been struggling," La Russa said. "I think he understands."
The Cardinals plan to recall righty Mitchell Boggs(notes) from Triple-A Memphis to take Wellemeyer’s turn against Houston on Friday night. Boggs has started four times for St. Louis this season and is 1-0 with a 3.22 ERA.
I know people have said they’d rather have Hawk starting than Boggs, but I’m OK w/ Boggs. He pitched decently earlier this year and I’d like to see more.
Who's going down?
Hawk?
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
Yes please
He has no purpose on this roster
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by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd agree
but w/ the Ankiel injury, maybe not? Assuming ankiel’s issue is minor, Stav should go
does Thursty have options?
He should
He was signed to a minor league contract
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by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
so w/ Ankiel hurt to some degree
the question is do we need Stav or Thursty more the next few days?
OH THE HORROR!!! such a horrible, epic dilemma!
kg has to be dealt with on friday also
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
probably...
I forgot he was still with the club. Not needed with the new toys. Also, we know it won’t be Joe F Thurston.
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
hopefully
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
answer
so far, nobody. They haven’t recalled Boggs yet, so we don’t know who’s going down. The article says they’ll call up Boggs on Friday night. I read right past that part.
We have 12 pitchers right now, so if TLR wants his 13 pitchers again, it’ll most likely be Stav; otherwise I expect it’d be Hawk, or possibly PK.
a few things:
1. it’s about time!
2. Wellemeyer’s either BSing or completely content to go the ’pen.
3. Boggs can’t pitch any worse than Wellemeyer. Even if he can’t go deep into the game, at least he should keep us in the game. Welle couldn’t do either. Plus, Boggs has been on fire lately after struggling in his return to Memphis
4. I wonder how much we’ll be using the 5th starter the rest of the way
1. no kidding!
2. Pretty much everybody who makes it to the pro level knows when they suck out loud….he’s a competitor, he can’t be happy to be beaten like a redheaded stepchild constantly.
3. Boggs’ll be fun to watch I think
4. Not much….we’ve got lots of off days in the remaining schedule….I think they might use PK as their spot 5th starter. I’m hoping we’re able to make it to the end of September healthier than TLR teams usually are at that time.
yeah the off days should help
we really have 3 straight years of falling off the shelf in september. We merely lucked out in ’06 that the rest of the division was brutal.
Beer sales at my local store
were epic the last three Septembers.
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
not that he has any room to complain
But kudos to him for being a grown-up about it. That’s a hard pill to swallow.
Actually, we’re doing very well with players being understanding about their roles this year. Nobody – motte, perez, ankiel, etc. – has thrown a fit about not landing a coveted role. I noted that duncan the younger responded well to the trade. Maybe there’s more angst behind the scenes, but the worst blow-up was (ironically) welly blasting skippy’s defense back in ST. Which was pretty mild.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jul 28, 2009 9:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just read LaTroy Hawkins of the Astros is out with Shingles...
Yack.
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
Google is not helping at all right now
Can anyone tell me if there’s a way to save a MySQL database from the MySQL Command Line Prompt (i.e. mysql> blah blah)? I’m seeing ways to do it from a regular command prompt (mysqldump -u root -p password etc.) but I can’t do that on my machine for some reason. I feel there should be an easy way to do this, just can’t figure it out.
You guys rule.
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Did you try
looking for that in the forums at www.theelectrictoolbox.com ?
That’s where I go for all questions related to MySQL.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
whoops
dammit, long day
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
I have never heard of that website
Checking it out now. I’m doing this for a class project.
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by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry I can't answer your question
I always do it from the command prompt in Windows so I’ve never had to do it the other way.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Yeah I tried that and I guess I don't have that mysqldump thing installed or what not
That would be much easier, for sure
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by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably
and yes, you do need the dump installed for that to work, otherwise windows doesn’t know what directory to dump your database too. Stupid DOS-Windows environment :-)
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Yeah
Working in UNIX at work is making me realize Windows ain’t that great. It’s what I used growing up, so I’m used to it, but it has many flaws.
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by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I use Linux mostly
when I’m working with databases, and thank god for that. I just hate Windows command prompt mostly — I relate it to using standard measurements (Windows) when you could be using metric (UNIX), in that everything you do in UNIX makes sense but there are so many stupid un-follow steps in Windows that just aren’t logical.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Pretty apt analogy
I always get yelled at by my windows command prompt when I type ls -l
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by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
you and everyone else I know that uses both of them. I feel like I need to change the alert sound to a dog barking sometimes for the full effect.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
This game should be called now...
it’s just a wall of green on the radar.
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
From the baseball archives during the delay
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/1995/08/17/1995-08-17_yanks_put_in_place_bosox_sho.html
“It went beyond the two-game lead swing that was at stake, one that would send the Red Sox west with an eight or 10-game lead on the Yankees. It was more about pride. It was about a stellar catch by Willie McGee, who scaled the wall in center, taking an RBI away from Bernie Williams in the eighth. It was about Jose Canseco shortening his swing to deliver a two-strike winning double off Bob Wickman. "
Rain Delay CHEER UP

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
Do they really hang an L flag after losses?
lulz
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by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually I heard they quit doing it this year
The history was that people coming home from work on the train could easily tell if the scrubs won or lost by the flying of the flags (apparently they occasionally fly a white one with a blue W……???)
/ashamed I know this much about the scrubs
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
More laughing at the Cubs goodness during the rain delay

(Courtesy of Alxfritz)
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by RunninRedbird on Jul 28, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
look at the horse's eye
he seems to be saying “Im embarrassed enough to have this fool on my back, please dont take that picture”
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Roosevelt was the president
The first Roosevelt.
That was 18 presidents ago.
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by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell, the Titanic wouldn't even sink for another 4 years!!!
Also in 1908:
- The average life-expectancy was 47
- The average speed limit was 10 mph
- The average hourly wage was 22 cents
- Canned beer hadn’t been invented yet!!!
- The population of Las Vegas was 30. 30!!!
That’s what the country was like the last time the Cubs won the WS. HA!
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by RunninRedbird on Jul 28, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
before both World Wars
before New Mexico, Arizona, Alaska, and Hawaii were states.
before every player whose number has been retired by the Cards was born (with the exception of Hornsby).
hornsby doesn't really have a number so it works
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just reading the history of Hawaii not that long ago and something stood out to me
When Pearl Harbor was made in Hawaii the queen of Hawaii said “This will be a day that will live in infamy for Hawaii”
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 28, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Many prominent
still thought einstein was a joke in 1908
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
*prominent physicists
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
And they were WRONG!!!
(chuckle)
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Jul 28, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
If he's not a joke,
why is his name only used when you’re calling someone an idiot?
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 28, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
thats the einstein bagel guy
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
/Brian Regen
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by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
He's the best
He’ll be at the Pageant this Sep. First time I’ve missed him in St Louis since I’ve lived here.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
Yeah he's great
And not to sound all “mom-ish” or “old person-ish” but he doesn’t have to be vulgar to be funny (I’m looking at you, Dane Cook)
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by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The guy's clearly a joke
Just look at him:

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by RunninRedbird on Jul 28, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
what i dont understand
is a lot of physicists back in the day were womanizers. einstein and schroedinger come immediately to mind. thats one stereotype that hasnt stuck, though feynman gave it his best.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
speaking of feynman...

"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
Interesting
His flow chart has the same end result as mine
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by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
The last person alive at that point I was related to died in 1994
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by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
for me, it was my memama in 1998
she was 16 when the Cubs won the series.
yeah, she was 105 when she passed away
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Ladies and Gents, I present a gem...
One of my “friends” just sent me this text…
“Fukudome is probably the best outfielder defensivly [sic] than any other outfielder there could be maybe 2 or 3 who are better”
Hilarity ensues.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAZHAHAHAHAHAHAHAZHAHAHAHZHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHZHAHAHZHAHAHHAHahahhahzhahahHAHHAAHHZHAHAHAHAHA!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
In related news
Jim Thome is the best DH defensivly than any other DH out there could be maybe 2 or 3 who are better.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Yeah I think Thome is tied for 1st for defense when it comes to the DH postion.
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
I feel like there should be a Chris Duncan joke in here somewhere
but I think they’re all past the expiration date….
You must have gotten religion
and stopped watching all Cub highlights on TV. He made a little pose last night….
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
a little?
he pointed in the stros dugout and did the now you see me now you dont hand gesture
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I know...
I wanted him to go see the clip if he could, it’s online at espn.com and it’s really one of those that you have to watch to really get a sense of it.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
You can see him pointing to the dugout in the bottom right corner of the screen and then you can see the face waving bullshit after that.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
how about this
Added Soriano: “I got the victory tonight and everybody is happy now.”
from the link you provided.
He got the victory, not the team. Not the guys that got on in front of him to load the bases so his sorry self couldnt be walked. Nope, only him.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't ever utter those words again.
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
The pose
and the “you cant see me” hand waving in front of his face, all the way around the bases.
classless
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
no TV period at the moment
OK, I knew he’d hit the walkoff last night but I didn’t know he was a douche about it. Gotcha
LOL that blonde lady on WGN broadcast must have been thinking...
Why am I at a Cubs game, and this stadium smells like urine and rancid nacho cheese….
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
Holy shit
Not good for the Stros!
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by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
oh man
that would be the end of their season. They can’t possibly compete without both Oswalt and Elvis.
they is donefor
Cardinal fanatic since '82
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Astros chances of making the postseason might have just been crushed...
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
should of said...
“ahhhh…cecil I got one more toss in me.”. then voila, 2 cracked rics for soriano and a dl double date…too bad
I dabbled in pacifism once....not in 'Nam of course
Agreed
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by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll try
Oswalt getting hurt while plunking Soriano and causing him to step in the bucket for the rest of the season while whiffing at every slider near the plate? Would that be better?
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Sori plunked
Oswalt, to me, is one of the better guys in the league.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed
plus it is bad karma for us to like someone getting injured
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
yep
we, of all people, shouldnt make light about someone on another team getting injured
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
he threw a nasty curve and was done
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Now is a good time to drill Soriano...
He just came in the game! He was cold and didn’t have his command!
V, b.
You all will probably disagree with me...
But I really like Bob Brenly as a commentator, and I think it’s a shame he works for the Cubs.
V, b.
agree
one of the better ones
speaking of which
interesting contrast last night between phillips and orel
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
little known fact
Steve Phillips’ middle name is “FAIL.” Seriously. All caps and everything.
by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
3-0 Stros
And Dempster throws the ball into CFer
1st and 3rd, still no one out
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
Should have gone home with it
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by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
he threw it INTO the CFer?
they are cursed!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
*Stomps on toe*
How about now asshole?
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by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Adding insult to injury...
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by RunninRedbird on Jul 28, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I like a cubs loss
just as much as a cards win
"You wait for a strike, then you knock the shit out of it"- Stan Musial
what's up with Big Unit?
gone till september?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
He's 83?
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by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't insult the man!!!
He’s only 72!
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by RunninRedbird on Jul 28, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
ow
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I'll be back in September, back in September...
January, Febuary,April March May,
San Fran I hear you crying but I just can’t play,
When my shoulder heals…
I’ll be back in September.
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
by Red Blazer on Jul 28, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
lost in the comments! rec’d
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 29, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
HAHA the top of the 3rd has been awesome!!
Cubs Dugout: "Oswalt’s done guys! Go crazy! do whatever you like! throw it to the back stop! Dive and fail; throw it into the outfield!! we can’t fail!! WEEEEEEE!!!
sweeeeeeeet
Cardinal fanatic since '82
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions

This one’s called revenge. I like it.
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
Please tell me that's Ron Santo's house
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by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
just a random neighbor of
a White Sox fan. 100 goats as well
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
that's awesome
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Further clicking found this
clip I spit my franklin.
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
Adam Dunn hates baseball so much,
the Natinals are up 2-1 on a freaking bomb.
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
2008 Dempster = 2009 Pineiro
Somebody’s getting suckered this winter. Hopefully not Mo.
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
My guess
The Brewers
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by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Rains sorta clearing out of downtown
And the system is weakening a bit. We might still have ourselves a game tonight…
yabut...
isn’t there a wall of water coming toward us?
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
most of that stuff is moving to the NE
the whole system is moving E, but the individual storms are rotating NE. Roughly parallel to 44, in other words.
Not if it stays to the west of downtown
The rain is moving northeast while the front is moving east, so if the system weakens quickly enough, we might end up with just light rain. Light enough to play baseball in.
looks like thet should have started
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
Some rain delay highlight viewing
The Yahoo baseball blog has a hopelessly subjective but moderately entertaining list of the 10 best/most memorable defensive plays of the decade (apparently on the assumption that the next three months will suck defensively). The Cards make three appearances: twice on defense (Ankiel throwing out two Rockies at 3rd, Edmonds’ 2004 NLCS game 7 catch) and once on offense (Endy stealing the HR from Rolen in the 2006 NLCS game 7). Several of them have video, but not all.
And the #1 defensive play according to this guy was made by…wait for it…Derek Jeter.
by BTown Birds fan on Jul 28, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions
The running flip play? Or the dive into the seats play?
Both awfully overrated
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i remember after chavez made that catch
i was as upset as i had ever been …i vowed to myself to not care as much. that all changed about 2 innings later though….thanks yadi
I dabbled in pacifism once....not in 'Nam of course
I never jumped off a couch faster
than when Yadi hit that homer. Possibly when Mike Jones tackled Kevin Dyson at the end of that Super Bowl, but I’m pretty sure I was already standing at that point.
My fastest-off-my-ass moment was the 2005 NLCS game 5 when Albert broke Lidge.
2006 turned out better though.
by BTown Birds fan on Jul 28, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone have a good link of Cardinals baseball highlights
Like McGuire homeruns, or Edmonds homeruns and catches, or whatever?
Who the fuck is McGuire
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh just messin
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Barry McGuire
… sang “Eve Of Destruction”….
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Jul 28, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Get outta here...I'm a Tarheel born.
…McGuire, Dean Smith (GOAT), Guthridge, Doherty (ick), Williams (2nd GOAT)
you didn't finish it...
… I’m a Tarheel born/ I’m a Tarheel bred/And when I die/ I’m a Tarheel dead.
rah rah Carolina-lina.
Thank you...didn't realize other Tarheel fans were on here!
Duke is puke and Wake is Fake. The team I hate is NC State. You can’t get to heaven in a red canoe, ‘cause God’s favorite color is Tarheel Blue.
I hate the tarheels
after watching fat sean may mow over roger powell again and again… BITTER!! The Illini were the better team that year.
You mean the Sean May who upset all my fellow Hoosiers?
By going to UNC instead of Indiana?
Funny thing about the national championship…only matters who the better team is that DAY. Just ask NC State and University of Houston’s teams from 82-83…
just ask james augustine..
who somehow was fouled out of that game in like 7 minutes while May just ran everyone over w/o a whistle.. so the best team didn’t even get a chance to play that day. Watch the game.. its forever burned in my brain.
Watch the game? I did...
I was the only UNC fan in the bar of the cruise ship.
Apparently it was an Illini fan cruise? hahaha
No, the NCAA called the season
after the Arizona-Illinois Elite Eight game, since no game would ever top that. I think Illinois and Louisville had a scrimmage after that, but I wasn’t really paying attention.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 28, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Greatest college basketball game I ever witnessed.
I just sat on the edge of my chair, watching the tv, saying, “this can’t be the end, this was their year.” I couldn’t turn the tv off and am I GLAD I didn’t.
i actually went so SIU too...
… but my Tarheel roots run deep, and i’m in grad school there now.
the Illini were not the better team. that Tarheel team had 4 first-round draft picks on it.
its ridiculous...
augustine played 9!!!! minutes before they(officials) ticky tack fouled him out. That was our starting center. You won 75-70, you can’t tell me that wasn’t a huge factor in the outcome of that game. I’m just saying we never got to see the real game to prove who was the better team. If you disagree with that then your kidding yourself.
Sean May was wearing an elbow pad...
that absolved him of offensive fouls… You didn’t know that. (Yes I’m a very bitter Illinois alum)
Paul Maguire?
That guy could probably rip some HRs. And he already has a stellar mustache. Put him in uniform!!
by Fred Head on Jul 28, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously though
Isn’t there a vault or collection or something on the web of baseball highlight reels?
well the good thing about a rain delay
is that i can actually keep up with the thread and (gasp!) actually comment even.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
are they starting?
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
+1 for proper use of time zone abbreviations
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
nothing grind my gears more than seeing CST this time of year.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
Savannah, Ga!
originally from Tallahassee, Fl
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Raised CDT
Living EDT now (and probably the forseeable future)
Athens, GA
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just in Atlanta.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
What part of ATL
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty close to the connector then?
I’m not an Atlanta expert by any means, but I have my bearings
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely
Bar scene is ridiculous. It’s grown on me since I started (I went to Auburn for undergrad, so I had the whole rivalry grudge to get over)
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
watching condensed game from last night =
productive way to stave away the rain delay
He had decided to live forever, or to die in the attempt
i wish. i dont even have cable
i just bought a month of mlb tv the other day
by CardsCentralChamps09 on Jul 28, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
brewers are down to the nationals again
5-1 already. man its great to see them fall apart
by CardsCentralChamps09 on Jul 28, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions
awesome
Cardinal fanatic since '82
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
hypothetical - if there would definitely be a rain out, could the teams...
start the game full well knowing this with the intention of continuing the game tomorrow afternoon from its stoppage point? or does MLB and player’s union frown on this? i mean, it is their only meeting in St. Louis, right?
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
The home team
has “control” over whether to start the game; once the game has started, the umpiring crew has full authority over whether to continue to play.
Baseball should change its’ rules to make all “rain-outs” suspended games; then you could pick up where you left off…
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Jul 28, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
why couldn't they move the game up by an hour or an hour and a half and get to the 5th atleast
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
woo
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
coolio
No longer patiently awaiting. Raz has arrived.
by RunninRedbird on Jul 28, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Buehrle
Dude is throwing a perfect game though 3.1 IP. Guy is money – closing in on the all-time record for consecutive innings perfect…
41 batters (sorry..not IP, my mistake)
1 million internet dollars to the first who can name who holds the record. Apparently it ended against our beloved birds on the bat.
LaRussa would have played him out of position
and he would have been traded at the deadline for a utilityman
His B-R writes -
Still the ML record holder after 35 years!! On 8-23-72 retired last 21 Pirates at “The Stick” in 8-0 shutout. 6 days later retired first 20 Cardinals in 3-0 shutout in St. Louis. 41 in a row!! (Tied by Jenks in ’07 but took 34 days and 15 games!)
not anymore
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
his teammate (jenks)
is a co-owner of the record. 13.2 ironic i guess
The dude
wants to be a Cardinal at some point in his career too. Too bad if he ever does, it’ll probably be in the wrong part of his career….
No longer patiently awaiting. Raz has arrived.
by RunninRedbird on Jul 28, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
no wrong part of his career
he maxes out at like 85 mph
by hangingfromatree on Jul 28, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
astroles up 4-0
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
left lower-back strain for oswalt
…tough luck for him. this wright guy is dealin’ though
I dabbled in pacifism once....not in 'Nam of course
yea, but
he needs to do something about those pants
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
1, I believe
I think the record is 41 and he is at 40.
12 batter from tonight
27 from his perfect game
1 batter from his previous game, before he was replaced
oh duh
forgot about the game prior to his perfecto
i saw that
would love to have him. contract up after 2011. if we are lucky (in a Pujolsian way), we prob won’t have $15M/season to throw his way. but if there ever was a guy to take a hometown discount….
I don't want to jinx the guy...
but there have been what 18 (or was his 19) perfect games thrown…..what are the odds a guy throws two, let alone two back to back.
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
his was 18
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
his was 18
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
gotta be nerve racking
to be paul konerko right now
He had decided to live forever, or to die in the attempt
big unit has torn rotator cuff
it was nice career, thanks for the good times
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
i know he was kinda surly at times,
but i always liked him. the 2001 world series was the most fun to watch in terms of quality of games. and i loved seeing new york eat it. was it also the last one to go 7 games?
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
i should clarify,
most fun to watch since i have been watching, aka, since 1996.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
cooper watching
no one warming
wtf
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
pen went 6 last night still have 2 games in the series
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
3 walks and a sac fly
4-1
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
did I miss the 2nd run scoring
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
nope
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
royals just tied it up
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
hahaha
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
you know, despite never following them and them being pretty poor on average...
i always kind of root for the Orioles. Go STL Baltimore Browns Orioles!
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
They are kind of exciting right now though
Markakis, Jones, Wieters, etc. I know I’m forgetting a couple, but they could be pretty good fairly soon.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Good point
I was trying to think of younger up and coming guys though.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Natinal's have the bases loaded
with 1 out
5-1
Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
Damn my eyes
I hate reverse jinxing things. Or maybe it’s a positive jinx.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Rangers are beating the Tigers!
Seems every other game is getting props.
by notmorganfreeman on Jul 28, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions
haha rangers are still hanging tough
just three games down to the angels
by CardsCentralChamps09 on Jul 28, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
If it wasn't still light out
I’d probably go to bed.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
Cecil Cooper is such a shitty manager...
Wright should have been out of thus game 3 batters ago, and he doesn’t even have anyone warming up…
V, b.
I don't know how he can they got burned last night
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno
it’s a tough spot to be in, for sure….how many innings did the starter pitch yesterday? There was the extra innings game, and then the next day your ace goes down in the 2nd. Brutal.
Is it a rule of baseball...
that a relief pitcher who walks the bases loaded while leading must leave the game? It should be… I suppose after that 13 inning game last night he wants some innings out of Wright.
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
painful
to remember what the stros did to us
and watch them hand this game to the flubs
4 walks, one hit, 3 runs
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
His HOF stock has skyrocketed in the past week
Not that he’s near being in or anything, it’s just improved exponentially
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
If Buerhle goes back to back...
that has to be the greatest single achievement by a pitcher ever, right? It has to beat 59 scoreless by Hershiser.
Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.
is hershiser's streak
more impressive than johnny vandemeer’s back to back no-no’s?
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
Let's member folks
There have only been 18 perfect games in history. If Buerhle did it twice in a row, that would be insane.
I gotta get to bed yall
Heres to a big ol W for the good guys tonight.
And a big white L for the bad guys.
GO CARDS!
VIVAELBIRDOS!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
it's like
7:30 in argentina
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
no I think its 1030
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i just looked it up
those sneaky bastards!
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
28
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I got to bed this early sometimes
But we have a baby and my wife gets up really early for school sometimes.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
it's 8:30
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
it is 2130 here
and, I have to be up at 0430. My chain of command doesnt like it when Im A) Late B) a zombie or C) unable to focus on keeping my helicopter in the sky.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
It's 0230 here.
And I have to be up at… well, I don’t really ever have to be awake.
by notmorganfreeman on Jul 28, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
you're an army killer guy?
and you those fancy clocks that go to 24?
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
not Army
I am in the U.S. Coast Guard, stationed in Savannah, Ga (on an Army post).
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
oh cool
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
if youre interested
here is a video of a rescue that I did last year near Houston. The voice you hear throughout the video is mine, well until the end anyway.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"
good times
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
The wind in the Metrodome blows at -1
http://espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=290728109
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
I guess in theory
You could always reverse the direction and change the number to negative and be saying the same thing. Sorta.
That's true
I just know that’s ESPN’s way of coding wind in a dome
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice to see all the local talent we are cranking out that is in the MLB.
Buerhle, Howard, McClellan…
It is nice to see local boys realize the dream.
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
So are we gonna need an overflow before the game actually starts?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
yeah probably
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
we're drunk with page hits
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
perfect timing
got to see tejada let the air out of wrigley
Game On!!!!
by the way, I’m 15 minutes due west of the stadium and it hasn’t done anything but light, sporadic drizzle since around 6:30. Why the hell did they delay so long (unless conditions were different down there)
I love the hero walk from the bullpen
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
atdhe.net help?
I had the Dodgers at Cardinals page loaded and it was streaming the Cubs/Astros game. Now it’s giving me Giants pre-game. Is anyone else getting this?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Cory looks like the ball boy, sometimes.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Okay now that they're playing
Does anyone have a feed of the game online? The original channel was playing the Cubs game, and now it’s playing something about the Giants.
wainneeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrr!!!
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Al just described Manny's booing as a 'left-handed compliment'.
I assume he meant backhanded, but those crazy southpaws may live in bizarro world.
by notmorganfreeman on Jul 28, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions
he said booing the cubs
are a left handed compliment. as opposed to how they boo manny
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is*
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Oh, I zoned out (as I always do with Al).
The phrase ‘left-handed compliment’ just amused me.
by notmorganfreeman on Jul 28, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
no he said cubs players getting booed is abackhanded compliment.
still not entirely sure why, but…well, it’s Al.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
Before the game even hardly starts...
…wow. Go us…
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 28, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Is last nights 1st Base Ump now behind the plate?
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

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