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Game 103 Open Thread: Dodgers at Cardinals

Los Angeles Dodgers at St. Louis Cardinals, Jul 28, 2009 8:15 PM EDT


Billingsley Wainwright
10-5, 3.72 11-6, 2.95

Wellemeyer to the pen! Boggs to the rotation! Rasmus to the lineup! It is a good day to be a fan of the St. Louis Cardinals, unless you're Todd Wellemeyer. His strikeout rate is not quite as dizzyingly out of line with his career as it was in the majors--at 6.8 per nine innings he's in 2007 territory, though not 2008--but his last three starts in AAA have been extremely impressive. Interestingly enough, he's gotten considerably more of his outs in the air this year than last. It's not enough information to build a case for a New Approach, especially considering his fangraphs pitch selection is almost identical year to year, but it is different. 

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So, Soriano takes one:

A. Roy Oswalt is a gentleman- he wouldn’t resort to violence!
B. In the ribs/back.
C. In the thigh.
D. Shoulder and above- “It just got away from me and he got himself hit.”

15=/=25

by hazel on Jul 28, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

A

hopefully. I like Roy-O

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

no,

but I’ll be right back…

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

… the wonders of boredom and being able to use Photoshop kinda okay

by vexedtechie on Jul 28, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is amazing

You put everything on it that I suggested. Rec’d!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

He gets 4 AB's right?

I vote for B,C, and D twice…but I’m old school like that…

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

B please

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fantastic job today everybody

1000 comments in a catch-all thread is pretty damn incredible.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

It'll probably change over around gametime

Typically these channels run all day just showing different stuff as they go.

Thanks for the link.

by mojowo11 on Jul 28, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

no problem

just a heads up, atdhe.net has had the last few games…hopefully this keeps rolling.

by MR_PC on Jul 28, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

It wasn’t listed yet when I checked earlier. I tend to check it every day, Thanks again.

by mojowo11 on Jul 28, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

that doesnt seem to be working

I get nothing but a black screen and a password enter thingy or whatever. not sure what to do.

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"

by tgreenfield on Jul 28, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

wellemeyer could be a good thing for the 'pen

if he’s used properly I guess. I wonder if this means anything for Motte?

Cardinal fanatic since '82

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Booo!

Motte just needs a second pitch. Can’t Franklin teach him one of the 20 billion that he knows?

Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.

by Red Blazer on Jul 28, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still say

Motte would be fine if TLR would resist the urge to bring him in on consecutive days

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe, but a second pitch would help.

Maybe when he comes in after pitching the night before the previous nights hitters can time his fastball better?

It’s a stretch but it’s all I got.

Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.

by Red Blazer on Jul 28, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

he rarely faces more than 3-4 hitters. i doubt they figure him out from that

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: 12FT by 12FT Cedar Deck

How much should a Cedar Deck cost?

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 28, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Ask the guy

for the materials cost and for his labor rates. My husband is a mason and he breaks down his estimates so people know exactly what they’re paying for.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 28, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

This guy just said $6000.

If it was my house and he was talking to me. I would of already laughed him out of the house

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 28, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll do it for $5500...

I’ll be there tomorrow. Actually, I can come over right now if you want.

Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.

by guayzimi on Jul 28, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once you have that info,

call another company and ask them the same thing.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 28, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a Stonecutter.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 28, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

But are you the Chosen One?

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 28, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Dad?

Remember when we started ignoring everything Grandpa said?"

“I think you should listen to him now”

/may not be exact word for word, but thats how I remember it

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who holds back the electric car?

Who makes Steve Gutenberg… a star?
We do! We do!

Now let’s all get drunk and play ping pong!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

"You're NOT a cutter,

I’M a cutter."

There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jul 28, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on stairs,

landings, railings etc… Something basic might run you $20-$30 a square foot.

Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.

by guayzimi on Jul 28, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

This guy is still here

I am came over for Dinner and he is messing up my eating time

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 28, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you figure that

a cedar board goes for $1 per linear foot, and you need to build a deck of 12′×12′ you would need around 26 12’ deck boards, so around $312. Add to that the lumber you would need for the underlying structure. I would recommend using pressure treated 2×6, with either PT 4×4′s, or concrete construction blocks (not cinder blocks) for the foundation/corners. (If you want to build it solid out of cedar, I could find the prices for that also.)

The deck will require 16" (on center) spacing for correct structural integrity, so at least 9 joists (more for center bracing), with 4 more boards for the outside of the frame. If you are going for a solid cedar deck, add about $156 more for the necessary lumber. USE SCREWS, nails will inevitably back out over time. For railing, or seating, you will have to price that yourself. Cedar should only be around $1 per linear foot and will last around 20 years, though it will be gray and weathered by about year 10, even with refinishing it every year.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope the numbers are accurate, they are the best I could come up with looking at different lumber yards’ prices.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I appreciate it

You have any feelings towards composites?

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 28, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Composites are fine

and will last regardless if they are used off of, or directly on the ground, whereas cedar will rot quickly on the ground or in constant shade. Composites will mildew, but that is cured with bleach or a pressure washer (dont get too close, though). Composites cost a little more, but will last just as long, more likely longer though.

That said, there aint nothing like a real wood deck.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

by quickly

I mean that the usable life of cedar is decreased if laid on the ground where it will stay wet much longer. Thats also why I suggest concrete construction blocks to raise it from the ground.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

It will be barely off the ground. Maybe a step or two

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 28, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

then the blocks might not work depending on step height

these blocs are only 12" tall, and shaped like pyramids without the point. They are relatively inexpensive and easy to use (minor digging/scraping and leveling required unless your yard is perfectly flat).

On second thought, the blocks will work because of the board height that would rest in their grooved top.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't take this shit

Now he is talking political stuff. GTFO

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 28, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lineup:

2B – Schumaker
3B – DeRosa
1B – Pujols
LF – Holliday
RF – Ludwick
CF – Rasmus
C – Molina
SS – Ryan
P – Wainwright

by vexedtechie on Jul 28, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone see that now Ank is hurt with a groin strain?

If we are lucky Rasmus and Ank will take turns with thier injuries so we have at least one CF at all times.

Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.

by Red Blazer on Jul 28, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's just a fancy way of saying they're...

splitting time. Both are injured and can only play every other day. Whatever…

Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.

by guayzimi on Jul 28, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

The lineup all VEB-dom...

has been waiting.

Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.

by guayzimi on Jul 28, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now watch them only score two...

…er, I mean THEY WILL ONLY SCORE TWO RUNS AND NO MORE BECAUSE CHAD BILLINGSLEY IS SO DAMNED HANDSOME.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 28, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

for

Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.

by guayzimi on Jul 28, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

still not perfect

would rather see Lugo start over Skip at 2B

Cardinal fanatic since '82

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only against LHers

I love them as a straight platoon.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 28, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really like a Lugo/Skip platoon @ 2B

while Ryan gets most of the starts at SS.

In the new and improved offense, Ryan’s slap hitting in the 8(?) hole is fine, and his defense is pretty much second to none in the Cards organization. Meanwhile, Skip plays 2B against RHP and Lugo plays 2B against LHP. They cover each others’ weaknesses. It’s such a natural and obvious situation that even TLR is going to be hard pressed to come up with reasons not to deploy them that way.

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glorious!

No longer patiently awaiting. Raz has arrived.

by RunninRedbird on Jul 28, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

First Colby, Now Ankiel

Colby hurt his heel and Ankiel got to play. Now Ankiel has a groin injury and Colby gets to play. I can tell I’m burnt out on TLR and his machinations. This is just a handy cooincidence (sp)

by spfldbird on Jul 28, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Cards playoff odds today are at 52%

A win (and a Cubs loss) puts us at 57%, a loss (and a Cubs win) puts us at 46%. These are high leverage games.

F%#& Billy Beane. Actually... I kinda like Holliday

by vivaelpujols on Jul 28, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

We got Wagonmaker so hopefully we are just waiting on the Cubs to put up a Lose today.

last night killed me. I thought for sure they would lose.

Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.

by Red Blazer on Jul 28, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was after the 8th

of course they were going to win being tied and going into extras at Wrigley.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

how do you do lineouts for text?

I really want to fix your statement

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

strike and /strike inside of these things <>

Whatever you want to strike out in the middle.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 28, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

So

(strike)blah blah</strike)

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 28, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

blah blah is easier done -blah blah-

blah blah

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

I’ve never looked at the formatting guide.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 28, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is much easier

Thanks!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

html standard is

angle bracket s /angle bracket

On here you can use dashes, I think.

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was trying to illustrate with parentheses, so it wouldn't strike out.

Accidentally kept an angle bracket in there.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 28, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

click on "show formatting guide" in lower right corner of posting box

dashworddash will produce this-word-

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Preview Fail

word

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

look down

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

here goes nothing

I wanna see a big blue L tonight every night

Fixed

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

np

thanks to Spants and RiverRat for the coaching

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

may i suggest?

I wanna see a big blue L tonight every single fucking night.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Jul 28, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Since were fixing every thing

I wanna see a big blue white L tonight every single fucking night.

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

also ^we're

/dumbass

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah

that’s a beautiful sight

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok

I’ll work on it for next time I get an opportunity

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very light rain in University City, ~5 miles west of downtown

From the radar it looks like a delay is quite likely but there’s a very good chance they’ll get it in.

by BTown Birds fan on Jul 28, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty soon

they might not have anything better to do with the edwardjones dome.

by DanUpBaby on Jul 28, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doh!

Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.

by Red Blazer on Jul 28, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

they were

the Rams were frugging fun to watch there for a few years….I’m still convinced that if Vermeil hadn’t bailed out they would have won at least one more ring.

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rams.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 28, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neither?

VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.

by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 28, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I have to have something to watch during the baseball offseason

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

SLU basketball is looking up...no?

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Being a Rams fan..

…keeps me humble. I’m so used to the Cards kicking ass and taking names for six spring/summer/fall months (most years anyway) that watching the Rams bumble their way through the football season is good for keeping me grounded. Or something like that.

VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.

by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 28, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

ouch

Anybody else think they’re going to start a new record streak of getting to the playoffs and failing?

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Blues were

good until several years during the 00s and then good again last year. Hope they keep trending up as I’d like to get into hockey again.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 28, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who?

Kidding…

But seriously, I don’t like hockey much. I followed it out of obligation for awhile but two lockouts in 12 years did it for me.

VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.

by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 28, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rams.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Jul 28, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Da Rams...

Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.

by Red Blazer on Jul 28, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Rams, but I'm biased.

I’m from LA. I hated the Rams then, glad they and the Raiders left. I moved to southern MO and had to deal with the freakin Rams again. Who else would even want them? Go Cards and Go Seahawks.

by SoCalBirdfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wanted to chime in on today's thread

re: Ankiel vs. Rasmus, statistics, coin flips, crystal balls, slumps & hot streaks, etc, but I wanted to make sure people saw this, so I figured I’d just post this here….arguments on each side were very interesting and thought provoking, but seemed to me to completely miss the larger point. And I can’t really think of a better way to say this than to post this:

Baseball players are human beings, not coins or dice. Psychology can’t be modeled statistically (unless Billy Beane knows much more than he lets on). It might be a cliche, but the game gets played on the field and the fickleness of the Gods of Baseball is well known.

Just my $.02….

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Past performance

does not guarantee future results.

Please consult your physician.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 28, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody argued that it guaranteed it.....

But if you give me two lifetime .300 hitters, who after 100 games this season are both hitting .300…..and one of them is 1 for his last 25, and the other is 12 for his last 25…..all things other things equal (and no luck/unlucky arguments with the hits), which one do you want at the plate?

NOBODY will pick the 1 for his last 25 guy.

There are 3 things the average man thinks he can do better than everybody else: build a fire, run a motel, and manage a baseball team.
-- Rocky Bridges

by SoonerfanTU on Jul 28, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take the 1 for 25 guy

because he’s DUE

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I would if

his name is Albert Pujols.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 28, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

false choice.

what’s the OBP and SLG of each?

couldn’t find an appropriate pair of .300 hitters, but these guys are separated by one point.

nyjer morgan – .303/.366/.380
chase utley – .304/.420/.554

I’ll take utley, and I don’t care whether he’s 12 for his last 12 or 0 for 27.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Jul 28, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

You said it for me

VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.

by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 28, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

recs all around!

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 28, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

but you could repeat the same exercise

with guys with roughly equivalent OBP, or SLG, or OPS, or wOBA, or whatever.

In real life, it’s not a Nintendo game, and there may be unforseeable repercussions to playing this or that guy. Obviously the object is to maximize your chances of winning, but the whole reason anybody watches sports to begin with is in the hopes that something improbable will happen.

So, do you ride the hot hand or try to get the slumping guy a vote of confidence so he breaks out of it? Answer: it depends. I don’t think there should be a hard and fast rule, and part of managing I would think would be to read each given situation as accurately as possible.

And even then, sometimes a fan reaches over the railing and takes the ball from Moises Alou. Things happen.

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moises Alou was asked by a reporter a while back

I don’t remember which one exactly about that catch and he stated that he very much doubted that he could have caught it anyway. He let the guy get crucified for years and then comes out and says that. Doesn’t say a whole lot for him, does it?

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 28, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I remember that. His reaction at the time was anything but nonchalant.

I’ve always thought the way Bartman was hounded out of Chicago did not reflect well on the city. IIRC he wasn’t the only one reaching from the stands for that ball.

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

My nephew is a huge Cubs fan

and he was foaming at the mouth about how they oughta ban Bartman for life.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 28, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not long enough IMHO

and my nephew might would have if had the chance at the time. Of course, the way some people treated the ump that blew the call in 85 was pretty dispicable. Although I was really pissed at the time myself.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 28, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh.....

I said all things equal. You can assume that means OBP and SLG as well.

I also said two career .300 hitters. Not two guys that are hitting .300 this season.

There are 3 things the average man thinks he can do better than everybody else: build a fire, run a motel, and manage a baseball team.
-- Rocky Bridges

by SoonerfanTU on Jul 28, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

if all things are truly equal, flip a coin.

Fyi, using BA as a shorthand for batting skill is not going to enhance your credibility.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Jul 28, 2009 9:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

In baseball,

like many things in life, we are asked to make decisions regarding the future based on imperfect information. I mean, literally, we’re trying to predict the future, which is obviously difficult at best. So, to me, I don’t think either the statistical arguments on the one hand or the intuitive/hunch-type arguments on the other hand can be dismissed.

The manager in the dugout has more information available to him than the fans that second-guess him. He gets to see their demeanor before the game in BP or in the locker room or whatever, and has a chance to perceive an extra bounce in somebody’s step or a slight hanging of the head before the game. And he has access to all the videotape and numerical data his little heart desires. All of that has to be taken into account. To do otherwise IMHO is slacking on doing one’s due diligence.

I wouldn’t trust somebody whose one and only method of deciding which pinch hitter to use was throwing an I Ching anymore than someone whose one and only method was number-crunching.

I don’t remember all of the circumstances of the Gibson WS homer (whether Lasorda had anybody else on the bench, for example). But I do remember that he had two bum knees and was facing Eckersley. What are the odds that he would hit a homer? But the odds don’t score runs, the batters do, and in that case, for whatever reasons which may (or may not) be beyond statistical analysis, he homered.

QED.

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

or your broker

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

here's the thing

The sheer amount of baseball games played per year make it conducive to stats. ANY large number will yield a measurable pattern. That is why there are few stat geeks toiling over football games, because they play three times a year or something. (And I think you better talk to every psychology professor I ever had, because those damn charts sure looked like statistics. Stupid powerpoint…)

Everybody enjoys the game in different ways, and the idea that stat guys — who are measuring what happens in the field — are somehow totally against watching what happens in the field has very little basis. Stat guy are not against you! (Except when they are.)

Also, there are no crystal balls in baseball, in stats or otherwise. The GOB told me so.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

plural fail!

see if you can find it.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

but championships

are decided by small sample sizes. There’s no mathematical model I’m aware of that would have predicted, for example, that the Tigers pitchers would suddenly forget how to field long enough to lose a title. And that’s the bottom line.

So, statistical analysis is great for predicting performance over the regular season marathon, but its value diminishes (to an unknown, perhaps unmeasurable extent) in the October sprint.

Again my position is that both approaches are useful and must be balanced. That to me seems like the secret of the black art of managing.

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say you take the best players you have...

…and throw them out there as much as possible and hope your GM hasn’t failed you and that the GOB are with you for a month.

VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.

by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 28, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

with you there

and TLR rode Wainwright’s curveball all the way to a ring instead of sticking with the Proven Veteran Brigade.

I think TLR can tell that Rasmus at his peak > Ankiel 2.5, so I’m not fretting. As for the past week, for whatever inexplicable reason, Ankiel hit like a mofo and played a pretty damn good CF, so we didn’t really miss Rasmus. Hopefully Cody comes back and slugs .900 the rest of the season.

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

you! you practice the black arts? a witch! a witch!

My first comment was refreshed out of existence (witchcraft!) so in short:

Small sample sizes are accounted for by statistic geeks. I don’t think anyone who dabbles in the stuff doesn’t get that — small sample sizes are when you can’t assuredly measure a pattern. All your examples are exclusively these micro-moments… they don’t, for instance, describe all the times the decision/gamble was tried and failed. In many of the discussions this past week, we’ve been talking about decision-making and decision-making processes, so it has been a little heavy, that’s all.

So… I guess I’m not understanding why anyone, or the stat-savvy, or whomever, need to be reminded of the human element. Small sample sizes are when the magic happens. Stat geeks get that. They’re not Adam Dunn (that I know of.)

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

surely

I’m not trying to bash SABR guys or number-crunchers. I just felt after skimming thru the day thread I wanted to offer a non-polemical argument in favor of the ol’ gut. If the discussion had been lopsided in favor of intuition, I’d have weighed in on behalf of the stat guys, because I feel the beauty of baseball is that it requires both clear-eyed analysis and the occasional ballsy gamble.

It’s making decisions during these crucial small sample size moments that I think is not only the most difficult and prone to weirdness/GOB intervention, but it’s also clearly what everybody remembers years later.

Discussions like this are why this is such a kick-ass website =)

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

who else fears for Cal Eldred vs. Julio Lugo?

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

El Dread

Nice. Just when you think we have some bullpen problems now, there’s that old chestnut. Hoo boy did he ever suck.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 28, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

He wasn’t holding the umbrella over Lugo.

They had a nice laugh over it… on camera, that is…

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

so is this thing gonna get called?

or too early to tell? I really want to see a game tonight :(

Cardinal fanatic since '82

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

3 hours of concessions, followed by a reschedule.

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

so are they really going to play?

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

From Goold on Twitter:

dgoold Start of the game delayed by “approaching rain.” No set time. They intend to play. Start time. TBD. #stlcards
6 minutes ago from web

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 28, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

this is LA's only trip to STL so they should be highly motivated to get this one in

I’d rather have a long-delayed start than multiple delays which would mess w/ Waino, potentially

by kalmavet on Jul 28, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

day night tommrow?

we shouldn’t need the pen too much

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

works for us night owls

though since i’m not in stl i probably shouldn’t comment on the odds they play this game

by kalmavet on Jul 28, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could FSMidwest actually put "delay" on the screen?

I realize somethings up when a Pedro Martinez story is up, but I had to come here to check.

by olddomination on Jul 28, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I just made a pizza, a cheapie at that....

And I am not full….

I’ve already started drinking and the game hasnt even started…

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 28, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Instead of going to Cardinals Crew, or someone stupid Best Damn Top 50...

Why don’t they play Cardinal highlights or play a game from last year that the Cards won….

or something of that kind….so stupid if you ask me…

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 28, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

some stupid*

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 28, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Houston already up 1-0 in the top of the first

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 28, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

yayish

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, I was so pleased seeing this the first time,

I’ll be posting this all night I believe.

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Game is on WGN

if anyone wants to watch while we sit at Rain Delay

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 28, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Memphis bobblehead

series continues w/ A.D.A.M.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 28, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

F989879dome just pulled an Albert

tried to stretch a double.

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

^ Fu%$#$&&^%dome

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not comparing...

just saying that now that Albert did it, it’s the in thing to do.

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

we can call it a Pu.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh hey

I dunno if everybody saw this during the day thread or not, but it’s news to me.

Cards send Unwellemeyer to the bullpen

ST. LOUIS (AP)—The St. Louis Cardinals are sending struggling Todd Wellemeyer(notes) to the bullpen. It did not come as a surprise to the right-hander, 7-9 with a 5.79 ERA.

"I’ll be in the bullpen for who knows how long and try to make the best of it," Wellemeyer said. "We had to switch it up and see how it goes.

"I’m going to make it a good thing for me, that’s all there is to it."

Wellemeyer threw a bullpen session Tuesday before the Cardinals played the Dodgers. Manager Tony La Russa said the pitcher will be available for relief duty beginning Thursday.

"We don’t lack any confidence in what he’s capable of doing, but he’s been struggling," La Russa said. "I think he understands."

The Cardinals plan to recall righty Mitchell Boggs(notes) from Triple-A Memphis to take Wellemeyer’s turn against Houston on Friday night. Boggs has started four times for St. Louis this season and is 1-0 with a 3.22 ERA.

I know people have said they’d rather have Hawk starting than Boggs, but I’m OK w/ Boggs. He pitched decently earlier this year and I’d like to see more.

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Who's going down?

Hawk?

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

good question

it doesn’t say. Stavinoha?

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes please

He has no purpose on this roster

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd agree

but w/ the Ankiel injury, maybe not? Assuming ankiel’s issue is minor, Stav should go

does Thursty have options?

by kalmavet on Jul 28, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, let me re-phrase that last part...

hell, does it matter if Thursty has options?

by kalmavet on Jul 28, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

He should

He was signed to a minor league contract

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

so w/ Ankiel hurt to some degree

the question is do we need Stav or Thursty more the next few days?

OH THE HORROR!!! such a horrible, epic dilemma!

by kalmavet on Jul 28, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

kg has to be dealt with on friday also

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably...

I forgot he was still with the club. Not needed with the new toys. Also, we know it won’t be Joe F Thurston.

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

where is GDM and his bear?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 28, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thursty, plz

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by gocards62 on Jul 28, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

answer

so far, nobody. They haven’t recalled Boggs yet, so we don’t know who’s going down. The article says they’ll call up Boggs on Friday night. I read right past that part.

We have 12 pitchers right now, so if TLR wants his 13 pitchers again, it’ll most likely be Stav; otherwise I expect it’d be Hawk, or possibly PK.

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

a few things:

1. it’s about time!

2. Wellemeyer’s either BSing or completely content to go the ’pen.

3. Boggs can’t pitch any worse than Wellemeyer. Even if he can’t go deep into the game, at least he should keep us in the game. Welle couldn’t do either. Plus, Boggs has been on fire lately after struggling in his return to Memphis

4. I wonder how much we’ll be using the 5th starter the rest of the way

by kalmavet on Jul 28, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

1. no kidding!
2. Pretty much everybody who makes it to the pro level knows when they suck out loud….he’s a competitor, he can’t be happy to be beaten like a redheaded stepchild constantly.
3. Boggs’ll be fun to watch I think
4. Not much….we’ve got lots of off days in the remaining schedule….I think they might use PK as their spot 5th starter. I’m hoping we’re able to make it to the end of September healthier than TLR teams usually are at that time.

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah the off days should help

we really have 3 straight years of falling off the shelf in september. We merely lucked out in ’06 that the rest of the division was brutal.

by kalmavet on Jul 28, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beer sales at my local store

were epic the last three Septembers.

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

not that he has any room to complain

But kudos to him for being a grown-up about it. That’s a hard pill to swallow.

Actually, we’re doing very well with players being understanding about their roles this year. Nobody – motte, perez, ankiel, etc. – has thrown a fit about not landing a coveted role. I noted that duncan the younger responded well to the trade. Maybe there’s more angst behind the scenes, but the worst blow-up was (ironically) welly blasting skippy’s defense back in ST. Which was pretty mild.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Jul 28, 2009 9:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I never was clear but...

wasn’t there some story about carp punching somebody?

by 07saluki on Jul 28, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Google is not helping at all right now

Can anyone tell me if there’s a way to save a MySQL database from the MySQL Command Line Prompt (i.e. mysql> blah blah)? I’m seeing ways to do it from a regular command prompt (mysqldump -u root -p password etc.) but I can’t do that on my machine for some reason. I feel there should be an easy way to do this, just can’t figure it out.

You guys rule.

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you try

looking for that in the forums at www.theelectrictoolbox.com ?

That’s where I go for all questions related to MySQL.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoops

www.electrictoolbox.com

dammit, long day

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have never heard of that website

Checking it out now. I’m doing this for a class project.

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry I can't answer your question

I always do it from the command prompt in Windows so I’ve never had to do it the other way.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably

and yes, you do need the dump installed for that to work, otherwise windows doesn’t know what directory to dump your database too. Stupid DOS-Windows environment :-)

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Working in UNIX at work is making me realize Windows ain’t that great. It’s what I used growing up, so I’m used to it, but it has many flaws.

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I use Linux mostly

when I’m working with databases, and thank god for that. I just hate Windows command prompt mostly — I relate it to using standard measurements (Windows) when you could be using metric (UNIX), in that everything you do in UNIX makes sense but there are so many stupid un-follow steps in Windows that just aren’t logical.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty apt analogy

I always get yelled at by my windows command prompt when I type ls -l

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

you and everyone else I know that uses both of them. I feel like I need to change the alert sound to a dog barking sometimes for the full effect.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

This game should be called now...

it’s just a wall of green on the radar.

Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.

by guayzimi on Jul 28, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

From the baseball archives during the delay

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/1995/08/17/1995-08-17_yanks_put_in_place_bosox_sho.html

“It went beyond the two-game lead swing that was at stake, one that would send the Red Sox west with an eight or 10-game lead on the Yankees. It was more about pride. It was about a stellar catch by Willie McGee, who scaled the wall in center, taking an RBI away from Bernie Williams in the eighth. It was about Jose Canseco shortening his swing to deliver a two-strike winning double off Bob Wickman. "

by olddomination on Jul 28, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Rain Delay CHEER UP

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

yes and also on off days

and everyday during the offseason

by kalmavet on Jul 28, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually I heard they quit doing it this year

The history was that people coming home from work on the train could easily tell if the scrubs won or lost by the flying of the flags (apparently they occasionally fly a white one with a blue W……???)

/ashamed I know this much about the scrubs

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

More laughing at the Cubs goodness during the rain delay

(Courtesy of Alxfritz)

No longer patiently awaiting. Raz has arrived.

by RunninRedbird on Jul 28, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

look at the horse's eye

he seems to be saying “Im embarrassed enough to have this fool on my back, please dont take that picture”

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's thinking

“wait til the union hears about this”

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roosevelt was the president

The first Roosevelt.

That was 18 presidents ago.

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell, the Titanic wouldn't even sink for another 4 years!!!

Also in 1908:

- The average life-expectancy was 47
- The average speed limit was 10 mph
- The average hourly wage was 22 cents
- Canned beer hadn’t been invented yet!!!
- The population of Las Vegas was 30. 30!!!

That’s what the country was like the last time the Cubs won the WS. HA!

No longer patiently awaiting. Raz has arrived.

by RunninRedbird on Jul 28, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

before both World Wars

before New Mexico, Arizona, Alaska, and Hawaii were states.

before every player whose number has been retired by the Cards was born (with the exception of Hornsby).

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

hornsby doesn't really have a number so it works

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just reading the history of Hawaii not that long ago and something stood out to me

When Pearl Harbor was made in Hawaii the queen of Hawaii said “This will be a day that will live in infamy for Hawaii”

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 28, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Many prominent

still thought einstein was a joke in 1908

"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial

by Shi on Jul 28, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

*prominent physicists

"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial

by Shi on Jul 28, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

And they were WRONG!!!

(chuckle)

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Jul 28, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he's not a joke,

why is his name only used when you’re calling someone an idiot?

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 28, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

thats the einstein bagel guy

"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial

by Shi on Jul 28, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

/Brian Regen

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's the best

He’ll be at the Pageant this Sep. First time I’ve missed him in St Louis since I’ve lived here.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 28, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah he's great

And not to sound all “mom-ish” or “old person-ish” but he doesn’t have to be vulgar to be funny (I’m looking at you, Dane Cook)

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

The guy's clearly a joke

Just look at him:

No longer patiently awaiting. Raz has arrived.

by RunninRedbird on Jul 28, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at a National Enquirer once in a while.

That’s Einsten’s mildly retarded twin brother!

by vexedtechie on Jul 28, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

what i dont understand

is a lot of physicists back in the day were womanizers. einstein and schroedinger come immediately to mind. thats one stereotype that hasnt stuck, though feynman gave it his best.

"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial

by Shi on Jul 28, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of feynman...

"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial

by Shi on Jul 28, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting

His flow chart has the same end result as mine

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

for me, it was my memama in 1998

she was 16 when the Cubs won the series.

yeah, she was 105 when she passed away

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ladies and Gents, I present a gem...

One of my “friends” just sent me this text…

“Fukudome is probably the best outfielder defensivly [sic] than any other outfielder there could be maybe 2 or 3 who are better”

Hilarity ensues.

by vexedtechie on Jul 28, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

HAHAZHAHAHAHAHAHAHAZHAHAHAHZHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHZHAHAHZHAHAHHAHahahhahzhahahHAHHAAHHZHAHAHAHAHA!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

In related news

Jim Thome is the best DH defensivly than any other DH out there could be maybe 2 or 3 who are better.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

they should

but they need Oswalt, save it for a reliever later in the game

by kalmavet on Jul 28, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow i totally jinxed him

Oswalt is leaving w/ a back injury

by kalmavet on Jul 28, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You must have gotten religion

and stopped watching all Cub highlights on TV. He made a little pose last night….

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

a little?

he pointed in the stros dugout and did the now you see me now you dont hand gesture

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know...

I wanted him to go see the clip if he could, it’s online at espn.com and it’s really one of those that you have to watch to really get a sense of it.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

link

You can see him pointing to the dugout in the bottom right corner of the screen and then you can see the face waving bullshit after that.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

yes. Extreme douchebaggery. People give Pujols guff about admiring homers but that was ridiculous. Looked like he walked most of the way to first.

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

how about this
Added Soriano: “I got the victory tonight and everybody is happy now.”

from the link you provided.

He got the victory, not the team. Not the guys that got on in front of him to load the bases so his sorry self couldnt be walked. Nope, only him.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't ever utter those words again.

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

The pose

and the “you cant see me” hand waving in front of his face, all the way around the bases.

classless

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

no TV period at the moment

OK, I knew he’d hit the walkoff last night but I didn’t know he was a douche about it. Gotcha

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aw

Roy didn’t plunk Sori

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL that blonde lady on WGN broadcast must have been thinking...

Why am I at a Cubs game, and this stadium smells like urine and rancid nacho cheese….

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 28, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

And now Oswalt is injured....

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 28, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy shit

Not good for the Stros!

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh man

that would be the end of their season. They can’t possibly compete without both Oswalt and Elvis.

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's better

Oswalt hurt or Soriano getting plunked.

by enoscountry on Jul 28, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

should of said...

“ahhhh…cecil I got one more toss in me.”. then voila, 2 cracked rics for soriano and a dl double date…too bad

I dabbled in pacifism once....not in 'Nam of course

by bag32781 on Jul 28, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

ribs

I dabbled in pacifism once....not in 'Nam of course

by bag32781 on Jul 28, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll try

Oswalt getting hurt while plunking Soriano and causing him to step in the bucket for the rest of the season while whiffing at every slider near the plate? Would that be better?

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sori plunked

Oswalt, to me, is one of the better guys in the league.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

plus it is bad karma for us to like someone getting injured

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 28, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

we, of all people, shouldnt make light about someone on another team getting injured

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

what happened to him? Anybody know?

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

he threw a nasty curve and was done

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now is a good time to drill Soriano...

He just came in the game! He was cold and didn’t have his command!

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 28, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

You all will probably disagree with me...

But I really like Bob Brenly as a commentator, and I think it’s a shame he works for the Cubs.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 28, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

agree

one of the better ones

speaking of which
interesting contrast last night between phillips and orel

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

little known fact

Steve Phillips’ middle name is “FAIL.” Seriously. All caps and everything.

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

2-0 Stros

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 28, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

3-0 Stros

And Dempster throws the ball into CFer

1st and 3rd, still no one out

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 28, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

4-0 Stros

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 28, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

he threw it INTO the CFer?

they are cursed!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMGCUBSLOL

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

> Coaching visit to mound.

Oh to be a fly on that wall.

“You sure your toe’s OK?”

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

*Stomps on toe*

How about now asshole?

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

E1 haha

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I like a cubs loss

just as much as a cards win

"You wait for a strike, then you knock the shit out of it"- Stan Musial

by Drewshank4 on Jul 28, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

what's up with Big Unit?

gone till september?

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

He's 83?

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't insult the man!!!

He’s only 72!

No longer patiently awaiting. Raz has arrived.

by RunninRedbird on Jul 28, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

ow

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be back in September, back in September...

January, Febuary,April March May,

San Fran I hear you crying but I just can’t play,

When my shoulder heals…

I’ll be back in September.

Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.

by Red Blazer on Jul 28, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

lost in the comments! rec’d

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 29, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

HAHA the top of the 3rd has been awesome!!

Cubs Dugout: "Oswalt’s done guys! Go crazy! do whatever you like! throw it to the back stop! Dive and fail; throw it into the outfield!! we can’t fail!! WEEEEEEE!!!

by kalmavet on Jul 28, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

4-0

small bears down..

by MR_PC on Jul 28, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  


This one’s called revenge. I like it.

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

very nice

i am now debating buying a similar flag to hang from my window…ideas?

by MR_PC on Jul 28, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

just a random neighbor of

a White Sox fan. 100 goats as well

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Further clicking found this

clip I spit my franklin.

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am speechless

well done JD!

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 28, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

re: rain

things look they’re breaking up a bit, maybe they’ll get this damn thing in after all

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Adam Dunn hates baseball so much,

the Natinals are up 2-1 on a freaking bomb.

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

2008 Dempster = 2009 Pineiro

Somebody’s getting suckered this winter. Hopefully not Mo.

Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.

by guayzimi on Jul 28, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

My guess

The Brewers

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rains sorta clearing out of downtown

And the system is weakening a bit. We might still have ourselves a game tonight…

by Camaro5 on Jul 28, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh poo

I benched Ludwick in fantasy about an hour ago.

by mojowo11 on Jul 28, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should rephrase

Yay for having a game, poo for that decision backfiring on me.

by mojowo11 on Jul 28, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yabut...

isn’t there a wall of water coming toward us?

Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.

by guayzimi on Jul 28, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

most of that stuff is moving to the NE

the whole system is moving E, but the individual storms are rotating NE. Roughly parallel to 44, in other words.

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not if it stays to the west of downtown

The rain is moving northeast while the front is moving east, so if the system weakens quickly enough, we might end up with just light rain. Light enough to play baseball in.

by Camaro5 on Jul 28, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

looks like thet should have started

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Some rain delay highlight viewing

The Yahoo baseball blog has a hopelessly subjective but moderately entertaining list of the 10 best/most memorable defensive plays of the decade (apparently on the assumption that the next three months will suck defensively). The Cards make three appearances: twice on defense (Ankiel throwing out two Rockies at 3rd, Edmonds’ 2004 NLCS game 7 catch) and once on offense (Endy stealing the HR from Rolen in the 2006 NLCS game 7). Several of them have video, but not all.
And the #1 defensive play according to this guy was made by…wait for it…Derek Jeter.

by BTown Birds fan on Jul 28, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

The running flip play? Or the dive into the seats play?

Both awfully overrated

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

i remember after chavez made that catch

i was as upset as i had ever been …i vowed to myself to not care as much. that all changed about 2 innings later though….thanks yadi

I dabbled in pacifism once....not in 'Nam of course

by bag32781 on Jul 28, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never jumped off a couch faster

than when Yadi hit that homer. Possibly when Mike Jones tackled Kevin Dyson at the end of that Super Bowl, but I’m pretty sure I was already standing at that point.

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone have a good link of Cardinals baseball highlights

Like McGuire homeruns, or Edmonds homeruns and catches, or whatever?

by Camaro5 on Jul 28, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barry McGuire

… sang “Eve Of Destruction”….

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Jul 28, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frank McGuire?

Former UNC basketball coach??

by vexedtechie on Jul 28, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

and usc coach

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get outta here...I'm a Tarheel born.

…McGuire, Dean Smith (GOAT), Guthridge, Doherty (ick), Williams (2nd GOAT)

by vexedtechie on Jul 28, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

you didn't finish it...

… I’m a Tarheel born/ I’m a Tarheel bred/And when I die/ I’m a Tarheel dead.

rah rah Carolina-lina.

by kindred on Jul 28, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you...didn't realize other Tarheel fans were on here!

Duke is puke and Wake is Fake. The team I hate is NC State. You can’t get to heaven in a red canoe, ‘cause God’s favorite color is Tarheel Blue.

by vexedtechie on Jul 28, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate the tarheels

after watching fat sean may mow over roger powell again and again… BITTER!! The Illini were the better team that year.

by 07saluki on Jul 28, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean the Sean May who upset all my fellow Hoosiers?

By going to UNC instead of Indiana?

Funny thing about the national championship…only matters who the better team is that DAY. Just ask NC State and University of Houston’s teams from 82-83…

by vexedtechie on Jul 28, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

just ask james augustine..

who somehow was fouled out of that game in like 7 minutes while May just ran everyone over w/o a whistle.. so the best team didn’t even get a chance to play that day. Watch the game.. its forever burned in my brain.

by 07saluki on Jul 28, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watch the game? I did...

I was the only UNC fan in the bar of the cruise ship.

Apparently it was an Illini fan cruise? hahaha

by vexedtechie on Jul 28, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

That game never happened.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 28, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, the NCAA called the season

after the Arizona-Illinois Elite Eight game, since no game would ever top that. I think Illinois and Louisville had a scrimmage after that, but I wasn’t really paying attention.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 28, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Greatest college basketball game I ever witnessed.

I just sat on the edge of my chair, watching the tv, saying, “this can’t be the end, this was their year.” I couldn’t turn the tv off and am I GLAD I didn’t.

by 07saluki on Jul 28, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did.

graduated in 07. Now I’m in PHX.

by 07saluki on Jul 28, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh ok

i have a cousin that plays baseball there

by hittmeier on Jul 28, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i actually went so SIU too...

… but my Tarheel roots run deep, and i’m in grad school there now.

the Illini were not the better team. that Tarheel team had 4 first-round draft picks on it.

by kindred on Jul 28, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

its ridiculous...

augustine played 9!!!! minutes before they(officials) ticky tack fouled him out. That was our starting center. You won 75-70, you can’t tell me that wasn’t a huge factor in the outcome of that game. I’m just saying we never got to see the real game to prove who was the better team. If you disagree with that then your kidding yourself.

by 07saluki on Jul 28, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sean May was wearing an elbow pad...

that absolved him of offensive fouls… You didn’t know that. (Yes I’m a very bitter Illinois alum)

by ducttape16 on Jul 28, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paul Maguire?

That guy could probably rip some HRs. And he already has a stellar mustache. Put him in uniform!!

by Fred Head on Jul 28, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Seriously though

Isn’t there a vault or collection or something on the web of baseball highlight reels?

by Camaro5 on Jul 28, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really

MLB makes getting any footage of its games an enormous pain in the ass.

by mojowo11 on Jul 28, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

That sucks

No wonder I came up with nothing searching Jim Edmonds in youtube.

by Camaro5 on Jul 28, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

well the good thing about a rain delay

is that i can actually keep up with the thread and (gasp!) actually comment even.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Jul 28, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

are they starting?

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

nothing grind my gears more than seeing CST this time of year.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 28, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

EDT Represent!

Ft. Wayne, IN…

…currently sitting in Goldsboro, NC!

by vexedtechie on Jul 28, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Savannah, Ga!

originally from Tallahassee, Fl

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Raised CDT

Living EDT now (and probably the forseeable future)

Athens, GA

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just in Atlanta.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jul 28, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grew up in STL

But currently in ATL, GA. Lots of Georgians representing here.

by Fred Head on Jul 28, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

What part of ATL

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Westside

Kinda near GA Tech and Atlantic Station. Not sure they really have a name for it.

by Fred Head on Jul 28, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty close to the connector then?

I’m not an Atlanta expert by any means, but I have my bearings

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

I love me some Athens too. Only been twice. Great college town.

by Fred Head on Jul 28, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely

Bar scene is ridiculous. It’s grown on me since I started (I went to Auburn for undergrad, so I had the whole rivalry grudge to get over)

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

hypothetical - if there would definitely be a rain out, could the teams...

start the game full well knowing this with the intention of continuing the game tomorrow afternoon from its stoppage point? or does MLB and player’s union frown on this? i mean, it is their only meeting in St. Louis, right?

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Jul 28, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

The home team

has “control” over whether to start the game; once the game has started, the umpiring crew has full authority over whether to continue to play.

Baseball should change its’ rules to make all “rain-outs” suspended games; then you could pick up where you left off…

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Jul 28, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

woo

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

coolio

No longer patiently awaiting. Raz has arrived.

by RunninRedbird on Jul 28, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buehrle

Dude is throwing a perfect game though 3.1 IP. Guy is money – closing in on the all-time record for consecutive innings perfect…

by Fred Head on Jul 28, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

41 batters (sorry..not IP, my mistake)

1 million internet dollars to the first who can name who holds the record. Apparently it ended against our beloved birds on the bat.

by Fred Head on Jul 28, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh wait

Hershiser has the scoreless innings streak record. No soup for me.

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

soup nazi

would’ve made a great Cardinal. his mustache was ridiculous.

by Fred Head on Jul 28, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't even start with this...

Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.

by guayzimi on Jul 28, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

LaRussa would have played him out of position

and he would have been traded at the deadline for a utilityman

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

or a marine biologist

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 28, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

His B-R writes -
Still the ML record holder after 35 years!! On 8-23-72 retired last 21 Pirates at “The Stick” in 8-0 shutout. 6 days later retired first 20 Cardinals in 3-0 shutout in St. Louis. 41 in a row!! (Tied by Jenks in ’07 but took 34 days and 15 games!)

by jxmetal1 on Jul 28, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

not anymore

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

his teammate (jenks)

is a co-owner of the record. 13.2 ironic i guess

by jxmetal1 on Jul 28, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

The dude

wants to be a Cardinal at some point in his career too. Too bad if he ever does, it’ll probably be in the wrong part of his career….

No longer patiently awaiting. Raz has arrived.

by RunninRedbird on Jul 28, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will this stream

kick off the cubs and go to the Cards v Dodgers automatically?

by 07saluki on Jul 28, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

astroles up 4-0

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

left lower-back strain for oswalt

…tough luck for him. this wright guy is dealin’ though

I dabbled in pacifism once....not in 'Nam of course

by bag32781 on Jul 28, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

yea, but

he needs to do something about those pants

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

and his control

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

1, I believe

I think the record is 41 and he is at 40.

12 batter from tonight
27 from his perfect game
1 batter from his previous game, before he was replaced

by Fred Head on Jul 28, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh duh

forgot about the game prior to his perfecto

by jxmetal1 on Jul 28, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice!

i like him as much as any non-cardinal.

by Fred Head on Jul 28, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

he has made it public that he wants to play for the cards

by hittmeier on Jul 28, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i saw that

would love to have him. contract up after 2011. if we are lucky (in a Pujolsian way), we prob won’t have $15M/season to throw his way. but if there ever was a guy to take a hometown discount….

by Fred Head on Jul 28, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

we would def get a discount the question is would it be enough

by hittmeier on Jul 28, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

5

………very good innings

by hittmeier on Jul 28, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't want to jinx the guy...

but there have been what 18 (or was his 19) perfect games thrown…..what are the odds a guy throws two, let alone two back to back.

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

his was 18

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

his was 18

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

gotta be nerve racking

to be paul konerko right now

He had decided to live forever, or to die in the attempt

by slash2049 on Jul 28, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

big unit has torn rotator cuff

it was nice career, thanks for the good times

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

yep

he’s gotta be done now, there’s no way he can rehab from that at his age.

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know he was kinda surly at times,

but i always liked him. the 2001 world series was the most fun to watch in terms of quality of games. and i loved seeing new york eat it. was it also the last one to go 7 games?

"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial

by Shi on Jul 28, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i should clarify,

most fun to watch since i have been watching, aka, since 1996.

"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial

by Shi on Jul 28, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Starting

At approx 8:35.

by Hoffa on Jul 28, 2009 9:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

cooper watching

no one warming

wtf

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

pen went 6 last night still have 2 games in the series

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 walks and a sac fly

4-1

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

4 walks

4-2

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

did I miss the 2nd run scoring

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

royals just tied it up

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

hahaha

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know, despite never following them and them being pretty poor on average...

i always kind of root for the Orioles. Go STL Baltimore Browns Orioles!

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Jul 28, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are kind of exciting right now though

Markakis, Jones, Wieters, etc. I know I’m forgetting a couple, but they could be pretty good fairly soon.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point

I was trying to think of younger up and coming guys though.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Natinal's have the bases loaded

with 1 out
5-1

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

GIDP

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soriano's OBP is .312

Yuck

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn my eyes

I hate reverse jinxing things. Or maybe it’s a positive jinx.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it wasn't still light out

I’d probably go to bed.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 28, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Cecil Cooper is such a shitty manager...

Wright should have been out of thus game 3 batters ago, and he doesn’t even have anyone warming up…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 28, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

4-3

sweet management.

by MR_PC on Jul 28, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

4-3

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know how he can they got burned last night

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wright has now alked FIVE in the inning...

You have to bite the damn bullet at some point…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 28, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

he can’t throw a hundred pitches himself

need more than one sacrificial lamb

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's walked 5 in the inning...

Should they just let the Cubs score 15 runs and concede?

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 28, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno

it’s a tough spot to be in, for sure….how many innings did the starter pitch yesterday? There was the extra innings game, and then the next day your ace goes down in the 2nd. Brutal.

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

5+ for the bullpen last night.

Change is inevitable; progress is optional.

by Devin B on Jul 28, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

plus

it’s not like the Cubbies are pitching lights out at the moment

by nota bene on Jul 28, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it a rule of baseball...

that a relief pitcher who walks the bases loaded while leading must leave the game? It should be… I suppose after that 13 inning game last night he wants some innings out of Wright.

Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.

by guayzimi on Jul 28, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

painful

to remember what the stros did to us
and watch them hand this game to the flubs
4 walks, one hit, 3 runs

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Buerhle is 42 up and 42 down.

Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.

by guayzimi on Jul 28, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

His HOF stock has skyrocketed in the past week

Not that he’s near being in or anything, it’s just improved exponentially

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Buerhle goes back to back...

that has to be the greatest single achievement by a pitcher ever, right? It has to beat 59 scoreless by Hershiser.

Please take this comment in the spirit it was intended.

by guayzimi on Jul 28, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

is hershiser's streak

more impressive than johnny vandemeer’s back to back no-no’s?

"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial

by Shi on Jul 28, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh god yes

Consecutive perfect games would be orgasmic.

by mojowo11 on Jul 28, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's member folks

There have only been 18 perfect games in history. If Buerhle did it twice in a row, that would be insane.

by mojowo11 on Jul 28, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I gotta get to bed yall

Heres to a big ol W for the good guys tonight.

And a big white L for the bad guys.

GO CARDS!

VIVAELBIRDOS!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

it's like

7:30 in argentina

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

no I think its 1030

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i just looked it up

those sneaky bastards!

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

28

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got to bed this early sometimes

But we have a baby and my wife gets up really early for school sometimes.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's 8:30

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is 2130 here

and, I have to be up at 0430. My chain of command doesnt like it when Im A) Late B) a zombie or C) unable to focus on keeping my helicopter in the sky.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's 0230 here.

And I have to be up at… well, I don’t really ever have to be awake.

by notmorganfreeman on Jul 28, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're an army killer guy?

and you those fancy clocks that go to 24?

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

not Army

I am in the U.S. Coast Guard, stationed in Savannah, Ga (on an Army post).

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh cool

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

if youre interested

here is a video of a rescue that I did last year near Houston. The voice you hear throughout the video is mine, well until the end anyway.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Philles announcers about Toronto:
"Well they go out West after this series, this weekend, against the Tampa Bay Rays"

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

good times

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 28, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

dynomite!

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 28, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess in theory

You could always reverse the direction and change the number to negative and be saying the same thing. Sorta.

by mojowo11 on Jul 28, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's true

I just know that’s ESPN’s way of coding wind in a dome

Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice to see all the local talent we are cranking out that is in the MLB.

Buerhle, Howard, McClellan…

It is nice to see local boys realize the dream.

Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.

by Red Blazer on Jul 28, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

So are we gonna need an overflow before the game actually starts?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2009 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah probably

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

we're drunk with page hits

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

w00t

6-3

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

money

"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial

by Shi on Jul 28, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Game On!!!!

by the way, I’m 15 minutes due west of the stadium and it hasn’t done anything but light, sporadic drizzle since around 6:30. Why the hell did they delay so long (unless conditions were different down there)

by mattyp on Jul 28, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Well here in the CWE it was a steady rain…not to mention they probably wanted the field to drain as much as possible.

Yes, I am a proud to be a Hyperventilating Prospect Geek.

by mtzxc on Jul 28, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the hero walk from the bullpen

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

and awaayyyy we go...

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Jul 28, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

atdhe.net help?

I had the Dodgers at Cardinals page loaded and it was streaming the Cubs/Astros game. Now it’s giving me Giants pre-game. Is anyone else getting this?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

i am

idk what’s up

"You wait for a strike, then you knock the shit out of it"- Stan Musial

by Drewshank4 on Jul 28, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

same here

it’s killing me, anyone having luck on any other sites?

by MR_PC on Jul 28, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cory looks like the ball boy, sometimes.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2009 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Okay now that they're playing

Does anyone have a feed of the game online? The original channel was playing the Cubs game, and now it’s playing something about the Giants.

by mojowo11 on Jul 28, 2009 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

That happened to me too.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

wainneeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrr!!!

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Al just described Manny's booing as a 'left-handed compliment'.

I assume he meant backhanded, but those crazy southpaws may live in bizarro world.

by notmorganfreeman on Jul 28, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

he said booing the cubs

are a left handed compliment. as opposed to how they boo manny

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

is*

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I zoned out (as I always do with Al).

The phrase ‘left-handed compliment’ just amused me.

by notmorganfreeman on Jul 28, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

no he said cubs players getting booed is abackhanded compliment.

still not entirely sure why, but…well, it’s Al.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Jul 28, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

steeeeerike 1

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Follow me

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Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation

by azruavatar on Jul 28, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Before the game even hardly starts...

…wow. Go us…

VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.

by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 28, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I called it

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay, Moses

err…az…

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Jul 28, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is last nights 1st Base Ump now behind the plate?

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 28, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

5 doubles

and 2 hummers?

He had decided to live forever, or to die in the attempt

by slash2049 on Jul 28, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

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