Game 101 Overflow thread
by chuckb on Jul 26, 2009 2:49 PM EDT
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63 pitches through 4 innings and only 3 runs against Philly is not bad for Welley.
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
Whatever Lugo is eating he should share with everyone else.
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
Big moment in the Chi Cincy game. Bases juiced with 2 out and Micah Owings on the mound.
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
And then came back.
And then broke down again.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
i really fucking dislike TLR and his devotion to Wellemeyer
this guy is a horrible pitcher. why can everyone see it but Tony????
why do we keep on throwing his ass out there
ridiculous
The Redbirds are of the highest priority to me... As it should be
Wellemeyer is almost a guaranteed loss
anymore. Geez he’s painful to watch.
Thoughts on the Vikings, Buckeyes, and Cardinals
www.purplebuckeye.blogspot.com
He is not pitching so hot. I was really looking foward to watching him pitch this year after last year but that ship has sailed.
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
Yeah, me too
Thought he figured something out. I guess not
Thoughts on the Vikings, Buckeyes, and Cardinals
www.purplebuckeye.blogspot.com
Well let's hope the Dodgers have a bad series
or we could be in 3rd place pretty quick
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
Yes. He seems worn down. So does Yadi. Maybe they should give Pujols a break to get him fresh.
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
he got a break in the nationals game
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
Albert, where has your power gone?
I didnt realize you were a singles hitter
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
I wish Albert was good again
"You wait for a strike, then you knock the shit out of it"- Stan Musial
Wow, Albert's in a funk
Thoughts on the Vikings, Buckeyes, and Cardinals
www.purplebuckeye.blogspot.com
The All-Star festivities took a lot out of him
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
untrue
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Albert ignored a cream puff second pitch then DP. WTF
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
you are not far off
i live in nyc. i’ve seen probably 15 games nationally this season and no way they have won more than 3-4
How come our hitters can't see the 83 mph floating changeup
coming into their wheelhouse
Holliday is good
Now can we get Albert to go back to being good too
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
i think albert should hit behind holliday right now.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to see Holliday and Pujols switch places for a game or two
TLR loves lineup tinkering, why not?
it would be fun
but tony would never go for it.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
DEAR MO
I know that Dunc and Tony have a morbid fascination with allowing Wellemeyer to continue to pitch, but please, please, please give Blake Hawksworth or Mitchell Boggs a chance. I promise their ERA’S will not be over 5.
Thank you,
Nooooooooooooooooooo!
Three games not make a career great.
The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!
I thought that was Duncan's spine...
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Jul 27, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
The yankees are scouting Ian Snell. Can we get him?
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
i'd love to
seems we’ve shown no interest, though. I think we’re probably done for the year, for trades.
Snell also (if it works out) gives us our cheap #4 starter for next year, so we can sign Holliday AND DeRosa. Wow, that’d be pretty awesome.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 26, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless the Pirates
have a mysterious desire to have Troy Glaus for 2 months, I don’t see that happening.
On with the (good) youth movement!
Well maybe we can flip whatever we get for Glaus and something we already have to get Snell.
You know one of those 3 way trades.
Then if we don’t sign Piniero we can slot Garcia and Snell in as number 4 and 5 starters to go along with Carp, Lohse, and Wainwright next year.
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
We needed Waino and Carp and Pineiro to pitch against them
The Redbirds are of the highest priority to me... As it should be
remember when we would get 2 out RBIs once in awhile?
wait….
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions
if wellemeyer is pitching this inning i'm going for a long piss...
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
How many does Welly puke up this time around? Over/under I'd say 3/4
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
2/3 of an inning
5 hits, 2 walks, 4 runs
Thoughts on the Vikings, Buckeyes, and Cardinals
www.purplebuckeye.blogspot.com
Is there something wrong with Albert that we don't know about? Did he get hurt and they are just not saying?
Also, second time in a row through the heart of the lineup with no runs, and we had 2 hits out of it that time.
Go Cards!
GolfHog44
Not a bad idea. He gets some rest and Glaus gets to audition for his new team.
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
kinda cool thing though
is that the heart of our lineup is now like 6 or 7 hitters long…. earlier this year it was Pujols & Rasmus….
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 26, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
this is what I've been saying all along
Albert has not looked right to me since the beginning of July. Weak grounders. Weak pop-ups. He lights up Harden and Garland to keep the average numbers crooked, but I’ve been vaguely worried about him for a while.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
He's mortal.
He’ll bust out of it soon.
by mattisnotfrench on Jul 26, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I would agree but didn't he hit a couple of dingers after the All-Star break?
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
like I said
Remove those two pitchers as outliers. And keep in mind some of those “walks” are in fact intentional.
We’ve been watching Albert for a long time… does that look right to you?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Albert is supposed to have the softest hands in baseball, and the best hitter's eye
But he’s vulnerable to pressing. That looks like a month’s worth of Trying To Do Too Much.
And of course, nobody coaches Albert, because Albert knows his swing better than anybody else.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I checked
Against Garland. Only. Then it was back to the same old slump.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Reverse-TESS
it could happen
"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 26, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Must be the ball's fault. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Lugo giveth...
and Lugo taketh away.
Preferable to the punchless Ryan at this point, imo.
Acquire Wlad!!!
If he keeps getting 3 hits a game
I’ll take one throwing error with the bases empty.
On with the (good) youth movement!
don't we want houston to win?
Mets might be a player in the WC yet. Astros have no chance at the division, or the wild card.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 26, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
no, dead serious.
Houston cannot win this division. They are hopeless.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 26, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
But the Mets?
They’re 10.5 games back from their division and in fourth place. Beltran could be out of the year, and they have shown zero promise of turning their season around.
It’s not like we have a wild card chance, so we might as well get rid of our pesky division contenders that are 1.5 games back from us.
On with the (good) youth movement!
we could win the WC
looking at the current standings we’re not far out of it. I expect both us and the Cubs to have a much better record in the 2nd half than we did in the 1st.
True about the Mets. I didn’t see they were that far back. Anyhow, Mets and Astros both irrelevant :-)…
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 26, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it's an honest mistake.
When I saw that the Mets were doing so poorly the first time a couple weeks ago, I was shocked. But then I read into their current roster situation, and it all made sense.
On with the (good) youth movement!
Houston has a...
.500+ record in the 2nd half the past 12 years. They are usually trying to come back from about 6 games down to win the division. This time they are only 1.5 down. I think there is as good a chance they win the division as anyone else.
Plus, the Wild Card is for pussies.
Go Cards!
GolfHog44
It makes sense
Especially considering the very unlikely chance that an NL Central team wins the WC.
On with the (good) youth movement!
Houston's run differential is going to catch up to them
And I don’t think the fact that they had Clemens Pettitte and friends 4 years ago has any bearing on whether say Wandy Rodriguez doesn’t implode.
Not afraid to nitpick
yes because what the Astros team did in 3 months during 2002 has a huge sway on how the rest of this season will go down
it’s just luck, SOMEONE’S got to win an abnormal amount of 2nd half games, they’re just one of 30 teams.
There is no way as good a chance they win the division as anyone else. They have like a 5% chance of winning the division according to most metrics (or, given their mediocre team, common sense).>… Berkman’s out for the foreseeable future, and we’ve just added HOlliday.
Houston are irrelevent to this season.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 26, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
it does, actually
considering we can’t win. all we can do is hope everyone loses. hoorah!
On with the (good) youth movement!
to be fair to him
he’s not bitched too much during this season.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 26, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
well, I'll do my late inning losing game ritual
of turning off the game and just assuming we lost, then anxiously checking the boxscore tomorrow hoping to miraculously see that we made a comeback. Needless to say, I think my optimism about actually coming back has been rewarded what, once this year?
Where's Albert's wife to figure out what's wrong w/ her mang
And why the holy hell is Shitty(my knew nickname for Welley) stll pitching every fifth day?
The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series
by Walking Underwear on Jul 26, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions
he does pitch like a girl getting shelled so apropos i guess
The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series
by Walking Underwear on Jul 26, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like they are getting hot and are going to go on a roll :(
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
They are playing the Nationals and Reds
And we are playing the Phillies and Dodgers
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
fangraphs does not like our chances...
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions
That's the least of the skeptics when Welly's lobbing cement mixers up to the plate
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Replace "C Utley Home Run"
with “Wellemeyer Given the Start” and that looks about right.
"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 26, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Buck just says things.
“Ankiel, good jump, back on the ball…”
Ankiel did not get a good jump on that. At all. Say what’s happening, Joe.
jeez no-one cares.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 26, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I care that the Mets
are beating Houston. I also hope the Reds beat the Cubs.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
+1
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
walters
with all the lefties, it would have been a nice day to see him start.
Mo, you can trade anything of mine.
by njnick on Jul 26, 2009 3:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'm still pissed off about that fastball Motte threw to Rollins yesterday. It was right in his wheel house.
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
Hopefully the look on his face there
indicates that he’s had enough and will give someone else a chance.
Yes...
But we’ve scored 2 runs. I’m more peeved about Tony’s (mis)handling of Motte yesterday.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Yesterday our
offense was serious. It sucked to lose a game where we scored 6 and had 15 hits. It’s not like I just denied the holocaust with my statement.
Maybe I just assume we’ll lose Welley’s starts so it doesn’t really bother me.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
i agree yesterday was a winnable game
til the point they left motte, who clearly had nothing, in to pitch the game away
but it should bother you that tony refuses to make a change
this loss in on the manager, who refuses to change a starting pitcher who simply isn’t getting it done. we we’re screwed from the start. yes, we’ve only scored two runs, but wouldn’t it be hard for you to get motivated if you were down five runs?
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
So you're telling me
I should feel more frustration today compared to yesterday?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Well, I don't.
And I’m not going to. This game is like watching a dead horse get beaten. Yesterday we watched the horse get killed.
Just because I don’t make sense to you doesn’t mean I’m wrong.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
i never said you were wrong
but yesterday wasn’t exactly killing a horse. motte’s stats when facing the same team on consecutive days was brutal. you had to figure that was going to happen too.
it’s frustrating knowing that we had a ballgame at 3-2, and tony didn’t take wellemeyer out. 4 earned runs later, it’s not a game anymore. it’s just so frustrating.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
That's exactly my point.
TLR grossly mismanaged Motte yesterday. And we were way more into that game offensively than this one.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
but he mismanaged wellemeyer today too by starting him...
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
(slaps forehead)
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Explain to me how
I had to know that TLR was going to leave Motte out there once he was struggling. He usually has a short leash with him. Explain to me how losing a game we’re not into offensively is worse than losing a game we could actually fucking win. Because it isn’t. We had the rug pulled out from under us yesterday. Today, there was no rug to begin with.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
i dont cause i expected to lose this game
as soon as welley was named pitching against this lineup it was a forgone conclusion
we could have won the game yesterday
I'm w/ you
when Wellemeyer runs out there I just pray for about 8 runs and then we’ll take our chances.
Todd Wellemeyer:
curing what ails Jimmy Rollins since 2009.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
fun
"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 26, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions
where did that come from? Jeez
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Just tuning in..
to see Rollins crank yet another long home run.
good grief.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
Wow
Tbs is litteraly laughing now
The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series
by Walking Underwear on Jul 26, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions
Screw you tony
everyone knew this would happen
The Redbirds are of the highest priority to me... As it should be
You think he would have learned from watching Motte get the same result from that spot yesterday. With that short stroke all he has to do is time it and pull it...
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY
this is the most pissed i’ve been about cardinals baseball in a long, LONG time. TONY:
MAKE A FUCKING ADJUSTMENT!!! WELLEMEYER IS NOT WORKING!!!!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions
but TLR keeps backing Welley
it’s a tough spot, they are deathly afraid of making him mad in any capacity.
couldn't agree more
Mo, you can trade anything of mine.
by njnick on Jul 26, 2009 3:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Words cannot describe how pissed I am at our managers and GM for
not getting red of Todd fucking Wellemeyer
The poster formerly known as JoeyBombs.
Now that we're officially in "win now" mode
I wouldn’t doubt a DFA being in the very near future
On with the (good) youth movement!
I'm pretty sure that's the only time Wellemeyer has been part of a "win now" strategy.
With a very loose definition of strategy…
how many gopherballs does it take
for a guy to turn it around Tony?
"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 26, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions
Game ERA of 10.5, and that's assuming he gets out of the inning before giving up another run.
Go Cards!
GolfHog44
Last two unearned. Tony will mention that prominently in his Welly-apologist analogy.
Funny if you’re in Tony’s House of Dog, you can do no right – ask Reyes, YP and Ryan
If you’re in the house of Posh you can do no wrong – Ask Lil’ Dun and Welly
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
oh good grief,
don’t remind me. 0-10 with an era of 7 something. those were the days, the horrible horrible days.
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
Tony: I thought Todd made some very good pitches today. Phillies: So did we. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
very very sad but true
Wellemeyer will make his next start
The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series
by Walking Underwear on Jul 26, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions
95% chance
"I will grow a mustache bigger than Wyatt Earp's if we keep winning," - Adam Wainwright
by Beware the Molinas on Jul 26, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh duh duh duh dhuh
I’m Tony LaRussa, I don’t know when to pull my pitchers…Uh duh duh duh
I’m Todd Wellemeyer, I don’t know how to keep my pitches down…..Uh duh duh duh duh
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
This is what happens
when the worst pitcher in the league faces the best team in the league
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
that was funny
BUT YES!!!!!!!!!!
Here’s hoping that fantom hammy pulls keeps him out for the reast of the season!!!
Every time I turn to the left
There’s just this shooting pain. It’s the weirdest thing.
by Merry CRasmus on Jul 26, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
NOW, Tony???? NOW????????
you are a fucking hopeless manager these days.
Maybe when we were 3-2 down and still in the fucking game.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
"I wonder if he's hurt himself"
“Naw, I think his neck just hurts”
(rimshot)
"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 26, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions
I know this is bad
But I am rooting for an injury to him at this point. It is the only way that we will get his ass off this team
The Redbirds are of the highest priority to me... As it should be
Second place
Cubs in first
The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series
by Walking Underwear on Jul 26, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions
Looks like
Wellemeyer had the dignity to fake an injury. good for him.
"I will grow a mustache bigger than Wyatt Earp's if we keep winning," - Adam Wainwright
by Beware the Molinas on Jul 26, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions
I shouldn't be happy that he's hurt
I shouldn’t be happy that he’s hurt
I shouldn’t be happy that he’s hurt
I shouldn’t be happy that he’s hurt
It’s not woooorrking.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Jul 26, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions
It didn't work out so great yesterday (bullpen)
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
that's gotta be it for welly as a cardinal.
I’m calling it. Unfortunately it probably means fucking Thompson in 5 days….
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
gross
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
red belts?
"I will grow a mustache bigger than Wyatt Earp's if we keep winning," - Adam Wainwright
by Beware the Molinas on Jul 26, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Chance of a Cards' win
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
They both give up monster homeruns to lefties?
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
Should have traded him in the offseason when he had value.
The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!
we weren't to know he'd be this bad.
his contract had more value to us if he turned out to be decent, than it would as trade bait. Also, we all thought Pineiro would suck this year and Welly would be a useful #5. I think most of us would’ve traded pineiro for a bag of balls on a salary dump. Pitching is a difficult thing to predict (Roy Halladay excepted…)
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 26, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
So...
…if this becomes it for Wellemeyer, do they go with Thompson? I think that’s probably no better…
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 26, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions
Is it just because I haven't seen him in awhile
or do I remember Boggs being an acceptable 5th starter?
But like I said...
he seemed like what I would expect out of a 5th starter… I don’t remember seeing him as the starter and thinking everything would have to break right to win.
Just checking in to say
Tony, its over…Wellenmeyer should not be starting for us ever again…bring up boggs or the hawk
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
another thing i can't understand about TLR
he burns useful relievers in low-leverage situations. Like the 8-1 win on friday, he had fucking KMac and Motte pitching when the game was won, then we actually NEEDED to use Motte yesterday. And now Reyes is pitching – the game is pretty much gone. Just turn the ball over to Hawk or something.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
i suppose thats true
it’s just so frustrating that he kept welly in for TWO INNINGS after he should’ve been pulled, lost 4 runs, and now we’re practically out of it. If we were gonna use our proper relievers, they shoulda been in for the 5th. Wellemeyer was clearly struggling to get anyone out 2 IP ago…
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 26, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
This game really is upsetting
But everyone here knew it was gonna go down this way. I would go so far as to say Tony knew too. And probably a 99% chance the team expected it too. Begs the question why Wellemeyer got the start.
The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series
by Walking Underwear on Jul 26, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions
Maybe this is Tony's
pitching version of trotting Kennedy out to play the OF.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
good point
We can hope, i guess, this lights a fire under Mo’s ass to get a legit 5th guy. They’ve gone all in at this point and should probably pull out all the stops.
The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series
by Walking Underwear on Jul 26, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
putting kennedy in the OF after
The FO let the deadline go past w/o a move is . . . Well, still not ok. Putting a crap pitcher on the field after the FO just made the biggest move of the season to get your desired player is very hard to understand.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jul 26, 2009 3:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Like I said earlier,
Tony is crazy.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
i honestly didn't know it was going to go down this way
he should have been done after we came within one run. it would still be a game if it was 3-2. we called up hawksworth for a reason…
it’s just so frustrating.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i knew it would go down this way
when Wellemeyer pitches anymore and it doesn’t go that way, I’m surprised.
Welley against this lefty lineup. I truly expected it, just expected to be out of it earlier than the 6th
The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series
by Walking Underwear on Jul 26, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
+1000000
that was absolutely the point to pull him. Heart of the phillies lineup coming, put in (say) miller to get the lefties. After that DeRo homer we were in this game :-(.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 26, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
right but the bull pen was used heavily yesterday and the schedule doesn't get any easier til about 10 days from now
The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series
by Walking Underwear on Jul 26, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
it wasn't that bad yesterday
motte and kinney got thrown around, but it’s not like all 8 guys were used. plus, again, hawksworth was called up for a reason.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
watch us come back
and give tony an excuse to pretend wellemeyer’s suckiness didn’t even exist today.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions
If we come back I will let him do it...
though I would be pissed, a win is better than a loss.
Go Cards!
GolfHog44
Maybe the Cards should have more pitchers . . . 15-16?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Yea and send Rasmus and Ryan down to do it
The poster formerly known as JoeyBombs.
HOLD out for a big contract, Team's desperate
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
.. hits as well as he ptiches in any event.
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I say...
we go sign one of those crazy female fast-pitch softball pitchers, would do better than Wellemeyer.
Go Cards!
GolfHog44
Well, Ankiel's 0 for 3
I guess that hot streak is over!
by chuckb on Jul 26, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Just wait for him to adjust his swing
And go back to hacking at everything
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
Although his defense will stay very consistent
Lets hope an O-fer doesn’t affect him that much
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
DeRosa is not a good
defensive 3B but I really like the way he swings the bat. The more I see him at the plate, the more I like.
I think he's also figuring out how to hit with his bum wrist too
Which should help the situation some.
How can management make
The poster formerly known as JoeyBombs.
Bad day for me
i dont even know what i was starting to say when i accidentally posted
The poster formerly known as JoeyBombs.
Colby Ratstche
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Ratstache. Whoops!
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
so i've been without media access for a few days now
has anything interesting/of importance happened to the Cards?
we traded for Roy Halladay
currently playing in LF.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 26, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
i got the news on that Friday night
the F-bomb i let out when I found out Wallace was in the deal was epic, both startling birds and making small children in faraway counties cry.
by Expatcardfan on Jul 26, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
the roy halladay thing was a joke.
we got holliday. from oakland.
by hangingfromatree on Jul 26, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
there should be some sort of moratoriam on names
no more Hollidays (or homonyms), Greenes, or Zimmermans in the league
by Expatcardfan on Jul 26, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Holliday and Lugo
are now Cards.
Lineup scored lots of runs, now not so much.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
is it sad that i found out about Lugo from facebook?
and from a BoSox fan, which was worse
by Expatcardfan on Jul 26, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
hitting? Sir, you master the art of hyperbole
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I guarantee you
Wellemeyer WILL be out there five days from now. LaRussa is like the Bourbon dynasty in France — he remembers everything and learns nothing.
Giving the Cardinals fans an excuse to use their our bourbon to try to forget.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 26, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions
"our bourbon",
is that Czech?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't want to contradict...
someone who bust out the Bourbon dynasty, but I do think this is it.
The neck “injury” was the first step to a strategic DL-ing of Welly.
Acquire Wlad!!!
Gawd I fucking hope so.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
hardee's is the best thing ever created.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I've eaten there once.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
their moron ad guys actually sent me a press release during the ASG. I'll reprint it for braindead posterity:
Bonjour Dan –
Hardees is stirring up controversy again! Check out great pics from the AllStar festivities downtown. These girls are riding around on Segways in French Maid outfits and crashing all of the hot parties and events this week!
Check it out to see where they will be next and find out how to get your FREE French Dip Thickburgers!
my heretofore unanswered response e-mail
You literally could not pay me enough money to write about this. Fire your ad guys.
Dan
and yet, you've written about it
even without being paid. So, so clever, they were.
the end of every half inning IS a turning point. -Evilfrog
touche
if anybody eats a hardees Hot French Maid Dip Sandwich Bro as a result of reading that PR flak’s mind-numbing e-mail, I will ban them from this website.
by DanUpBaby on Jul 26, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I decided to have french dip sandwichs for dinner
as a result of the e-mail reminding me of the deliciousness. I went up at Schnucks for ingrediants and also I bought a bunch of random fruit for this week.
When I got home, I enjoyed a delicious plum w/ iced tea, and didn’t think about Todd Wellemeyer for about 15 minutes.
So, thanks, Hardees!
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
While my experience was fantastic,
my English was just awful in the review. Those first two sentences are brutal.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
Hardees will do that to your English comprehension
it is the price you pay for eating there
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
shouldn't you really be banning yourself from this website too
if that happens?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
French Maid outfits?!
How… original.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
You want a good burger?
Make your own with high-quality ingredients.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Dale's sauce and Montreal seasoning
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Jul 26, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
I have yet to find a burger shack that “makes” a burger better than what I cook on the grill.
The “ingredients” they use are crap
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't we own the Dodgers?
How many games in a row have we won against them in Busch Stadium?
Go Cards!
GolfHog44
Rick Ankiel, 5th starter
How awesome would it be to have Ank take Wellemeyer’s spot in the rotation? Couldn’t do any worse, and the lineup would rock.
I really hope Hawk
can do something to show, no no, Impress Tony enough to let him start.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
The guy on Channel 5 just said...
The Cardinals lead the White Sox by a 0.5 game…wtf?
Go Cards!
GolfHog44
jesus, how'd they get back into it?
i thought STL was up at least 4 games on the White Sox
by Expatcardfan on Jul 26, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
dear tony-
If you want the FO to be able to afford your shiny $16 to 18M toy going forward it might be nice to save some money going forward. That might involve using farm-raised starting pitching. Why don’t you test this approach so you don’t have to watch odalis perez in 2010?
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jul 26, 2009 3:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
yeah, good pitch, too bad
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
And Hawksworth blows his audition
BOGGS, GIMME BOGGS
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
yeh, Hawksworth! that';s the answer!
The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series
by Walking Underwear on Jul 26, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
Or the Thigh hi ptch with little movement over the dead center of the plate
The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series
by Walking Underwear on Jul 26, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
This Phillies team is the best team in the league
best offense in baseball right now?
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
Thats what happens when you only use half the plate
The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!
i'm not sure if wins against the nationals count any more...
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 26, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
well that’s wellemeyer starting again in 5 days time. Fuck, hawksworth….
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
so i guess
cardinals offensive prowess is inversely proportionate to pitching prowess
great
anybody think the phillies are better than us?
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Although they didnt have to face Carp or Waino
We didnt have to face Hamels or Moyer so…
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
Sadly I do
Phillies are the best team in the league and I don’t see how they don’t get back to the World Series.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
Injuries are the only thing that can stop them
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
If they were to get Halladay they will be be the best team in all of baseball
if they’re not already,
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
/sore loser
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Jul 26, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
wasn't a bad pitch from hawksworth tbh
right on the outside corner
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
That means he'll be on the DL within the week
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Jul 26, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a bit of a Harden mancrush
It kills me to see him on the Cubs. I’d love to see him on the Cards next year. What do you think he’ll command on the FA market?
I have a bit of a momcrush on Harden
It broke the A’s half of my heart when they traded him.
Oh, and chicks dig the strike out.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
It's official
The Cardinals have reversed. We can now hit lefties, but can’t hit junk-throwing righties.
DAMN YOU JOE BLANTON!
when do we start playing the powderpuffs?
seems like it’s been awhile since we had a week of pittsburgh and cincinatti…
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions
PGH
always seems to play up to us as we play down to them.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just checking out the schedule
I like the looks of August. Full of Mets, Pirates, Padres, Reds, Nationals….
"I will grow a mustache bigger than Wyatt Earp's if we keep winning," - Adam Wainwright
by Beware the Molinas on Jul 26, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
We have a stretch in the beginning of August
in which we play the Mets, the Pirates, the Reds, and the Padres
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
2R, 2K, OBB
Im glad Blake battled back from a less than stellar start to that inning.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
Wellemeyer
When I saw Wellemeyer was scheduled to pitch, I knew we would lose today. I don’t know what is wrong with him, but he needs to go to Memphis and work it out. We have just added three good players for offense (DeRosa, Lugo, Holliday), and we have a pitcher who continues to pitch in REAL games as though he is throwing to a friend at the Home Runn Derby! Yet Tony trots him out there just like he did Mulder a couple of years ago. Then Tony leaves him out there until it is too late for the team to come back. We need to get better starting pitching and better relief. The Cubs are winning right now, so you know who could be in first place tonight if the scores stand as they are now posted. Yuck!
That's a bold statement you made right there
by mojowo11 on Jul 26, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
lol
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Then it would be boldly emphatic.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 26, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dead girl, live boy
the only 2 things that could get TLR fired in St. Louis.
by chuckb on Jul 26, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
You've been on a roll lately.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I rec's that so much
if rec’ing that statement gets me banned …it was still worth it!
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
It figures this is one of the few games of the season not against the Cubs that I get to watch on my TV instead of my computer
The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series
by Walking Underwear on Jul 26, 2009 3:55 PM EDT reply actions
keep dreaming
The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series
by Walking Underwear on Jul 26, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
This team has done this all year...
They are a team of streaks. They will go on a 5-10 game winning streak and take first back, then lose 3 in a row, then win 4 in a row, etc…it’s just gonna be fun at times and not fun at times, but we’ll win the Central in the end.
Go Cards!
GolfHog44
feels like what this team has done since the beginning of the TLR era
well, except the days of the the MV3, when they just won every game and took all the guesswork out of things
by Expatcardfan on Jul 26, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
are you saying the MV3 was a big reason the team won 200+ games in 2004-05?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
This Phillies lineup is really, really good. But...
this series is totally different if it’s Carpenter, Wainwright, Pineriro instead of Pineiro, Lohse, Wellemeyer. And that’s exactly what they’d be facing in a playoff series. They still scare me, but not nearly as scary as they’ve looked the last 2 days.
V, b.
I'm not going to stop you
but the last 10 times that was a popular sentiment he wasn’t. He just slumps like everyone else, just less than everyone else.
He's probably just
fatigued and achy. He’ll be okay.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Given all the stuff he had to do..
Ludwick really should have represented at the HRD.
Acquire Wlad!!!
Bring on the dodgers
bring on Waino, Carp and Pineiro the next three days
The Redbirds are of the highest priority to me... As it should be
So the word on the street is that TLR is planning to go with a 4-man rotation in the next few weks
This makes me quite happy if true.
(Source: Jay Randolph/Ricky Horton)
Chris Carpenter, Adam Wainwright, Joel PIneiro,
and a man in a Phantom of the Opera mask who looks suspiciously like Rick Ankiel.
In sleep he sang to me
In dreams he came
That curve which buckles knees
Racks up the Ks
And do I dream again?
For now I find
Dick Ankiel is pitching once again,
INSIDE MY MIND
by mojowo11 on Jul 26, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
(saluting)
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
i realise no-ones watching this train wreck of a game anymore
but do the right thing and make this green, people…
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 26, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
im still watching
youneverknow
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm paying for this green comment
Because I am now unable to stop whistling the damn tune of Phantom of the Opera, and probably won’t be able to for days.
We have 7 more games before an off day...
That would mean Carp and Waino going on short rest. I don’t see it…
V, b.
Blanton strikes out the side
time for the team to head back to St. Louis
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
Joe Blanton?
strikes out the side, heart of the order no less.
The way hes going, he is going to pitch a CG with 6 (5?) consecutive K’s.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
DFA Wellemeyer
and find anyone to replace him except Puppy Kicker
The Redbirds are of the highest priority to me... As it should be
Boggs?
weve got to give the kid a solid chance
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He was good when he was up here
I was really happy with his stuff, I dont understand why Tony and Dave are so unfair to him
The Redbirds are of the highest priority to me... As it should be
Im not sure, either
They have to see it, too. But, he is an “unproven” pitcher and Welley is a “proven” vet; we know how that ends up with the roster.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Because this team is not a meritocracy. They manage the roster with cronyism.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jul 26, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd take the PK at this point
at least he’d kind of a lovable loser. as in, expectations are so low you can’t be disappointed. which is all i ask out of life – not joy, just a lack of disappointment
by Expatcardfan on Jul 26, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
ummm ...
couldn’t we just trade the royals franchise to toronto for halladay?
by hangingfromatree on Jul 26, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Lou*
He also hates democrats, minorities, women, and anyone who disagrees with him
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
He's a nutjob's nutjob.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jul 26, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Albert IS due up 8th this inning
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Jul 26, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's do this
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Jul 26, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
He can still be the tying run!
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Jul 26, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
he hasn't worked for 4 days or so
keep him fresh
by hangingfromatree on Jul 26, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Randolph
just called Eric Gagne “Eric Gag-knee.”
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
For an announcer, its like he doesnt even watch baseball
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
Last weekend I watched a Trolley Dodgers game on the free Extra Innings
my head about exploded listening to Vin Scully do such an amazing job by himself in the booth. Then we have this nonsense to deal with.
I love Vin Scully.
Wish we had someone like him. Even a little bit like him.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
It would be amazing to just have a one man booth.
I don’t really need a color man breaking down what I can see.
Scully is just so damned engaging.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Vin Scully
might just be the best thing about MLB.tv.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
that was a better inning, blake.
I don’t feel bad about the single to howard, hr to ibanez. Those two are good hitters. You just can’t let the whole lineup light you up for 14 hits or whatever todd got.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jul 26, 2009 4:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
howard hit a good pitch
Ibanez hit a mistake, it happens. Anybody looks good compared to Welley at this point.
Ankiel with a patented, down by a 7 with no chance of winning extra base hit
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
Still nice to see
that rather than a patented roll-over-it ground out to 2nd base.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
This feed is driving me crazy
random blackout spots, then it goes on hiatus for a few pitches
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
Well, if you all want to feel better
The Royals gave up a leadoff double and a basehit. Got Andruw Jones on a rundown at home, Struck the next batter out and then their league worst bullpen induced a popup to second that Callaspo totally lost, found, and then dropped to allow the first run of the game to score. Then another single to score another run.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
i don't like the idea of
facing the fills, especially in the post season should we be so lucky, with all right-handed starters
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
That's why we should have made smaller moves
Like Doug Davis and Willingham.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jul 26, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd agree on davis
wonder if it is still possible
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
I would argue that the Cardinals could be favored in a short series...
Carpenter-Wainwright-Pineiro…
V, b.
mark it down
they aint getting him unless Ricciardi caves
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
He shouldn't cave
he can still get haul for Halladay this offseason or get a still nice package at next year’s deadline.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
absolutely
namely the reasons I dont believe Ricciardi will get rid of Doc for anything less than what he asked of the Phils.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing that will infuriate me most will be Welley's post-game interview.
“Yeah, I felt good, just left some balls up and they pounced on em, but I was making good pitches all day and my arm is strong and my I LOVE KATIE HOLMES1”
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
Lidge keeps blowing on his hand.
Does he have icy hot on it?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
My god this game sucked. Glad it's over.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
ballgame
Thank you for doing exactly what I expected you to do, Joe.
what a painful road trip
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
Phillies are the hottest team in baseball
but we need to get our shit together and at least split this series with LA
"You wait for a strike, then you knock the shit out of it"- Stan Musial
I would want his name to be
Vinny. Vinny Pinerio.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Die, Die, Die
my darlin! Dont utter a single word.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
We all saw this coming today...
It sucked and now it’s over. We’ve got Carp, Waino, and Pinerio going the next three days. So let’s see if we can’t make a statement against the Dodgers and go on a nice run. We know we’ll be scoring runs.
V, b.
can't win the division
if we concede 20% of our games by putting the colonel out there
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Kinda glad I'm stuck in a Panera bread in Springfield given
this Phillies trip.
If the S-Cards could maybe, i dunno, not give up 12 runs tonight that would help too.
Thought I was watching the big boys last night as Pop Warner sent out his 2nd baseman to finish pitching the game. Poor kid has never pitched before and gets fed to the wolves (i.e. me sitting behind the visitors dugout. my voice carries.)
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
How did you get stuck in a Panera?
Magnets?
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 26, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
zing!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
The pitching matchups with the Dodgers:
Wolf vs. Carpenter
Billingsley vs. Wainwright
Kershaw vs. Pineiro
Kuroda vs. Lohse
I feel good about Lohse facing the worst of the 4 Dodger starters in the series. I don’t think I’m being greedy in believing we can win 3 of 4. I wish we didn’t see 2 lefties, but I feel like we’re much better equipped with Holliday, Lugo, and a healthy DeRosa. Carp and Waino will also go against the Astros, so I’m predicting a 5-2 homestand. Get excited…
V, b.
Cliff Lee could be waiting on Thursday...
Hopefully Ned is dumb enough to send Kershaw to the Indians.
Acquire Wlad!!!
Mo speaks.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
he really didnt say anything we dont already know.
Basically he said pitching sux
by madeintaiwan on Jul 26, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry, was hoping for the same
It was fast and as far as I could catch (was busy) didn’t say anything new. Slight slam on Welley.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Wow...the Reds and us just got totally screwed...
100% safe at home, not even close, called out. Tying run would have been at 3rd.
Go Cards!
GolfHog44
just got on to say that
that play was not even close. one of the worst calls i’ve ever seen.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 26, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Rick Ankiel in Reverse... Seriously
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4357116
The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!
Wellemeyer makes me violent
He should have been pinch hit for in the 4th inning.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 26, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions
Fuck Wellemeyer for sucking balls
Fuck TLR for continuing to trot him out there, and fuck MO for not DFA-ing his ass so TLR can’t trot him out there. I don’t understand. It makes me angry;
3 in 1
wow
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure I really want to diagram that....
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
if it makes you angry
you should get off the computer until you’re calm enough to say something else. I know game threads are pretty fargone as far as venting goes, but these gymnastics are a little over the line. at least think whether or not your statement would be out of place in Cards Talk before you write it.
Also, by the time you’re halfway done fucking Wellemeyer TLR and MO will probably get the idea and leave the ballpark.
by DanUpBaby on Jul 26, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry for the profanity
Lost my cool for a second
OT: DeRosa deal completed
RT @JohnMarecek Jess Todd to Cleveland to complete DeRosa deal #stlcards
....my quick smells like french toast...
Eff word
Jess Todd sent to Cleveland to complete the Cleveland deal for DeRosa, per Goold.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
W.....T......F.....
Wow Mo, Effing Wow
Why in the world was he on that list? I’m sorry if I’m overreacting, but we literally have no one on the farm.
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
Let me guess, Boggs is the PTBNL in the Lugo trade...
Jesus
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
Yep
and if we make a move for a Davis-esque SP, the system is just about completely gutted, if it isn’t already.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
mateo and miller wouldn't be a bad one-two
but yeah, you can use minor league depth one of two ways, and the Cardinals have shown pretty thoroughly which way they’re going with this year.
agreed
but it’d be different to me if they weren’t rentals. Sure we could resign them, but that requires using resources too. I wish that if we were hell bent on trading all of these guys that at least one of the moves would have included a cost-controlled player or someone signed for a couple years.
and we still don’t know if we’ll sign Miller, thought surely the odds have increased, which of course give Miller all the leverage
We've basically lost
what some would consider last year’s top-5 prospects.
Two (Rasmus and Motte) to the majors and three (Wallace, Perez, and Todd) to other teams. We still have Jones and, like you said, Miller and Mateo coming in (and Delasco blooming), but that is a huge blow to the system.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
David Freese is back
He is in springfield
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 26, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but...
we kept the really good stuff. Rasmus > Wallace, Jones/Jay > Peterson, Boggs/Garcia = Mortenson, Todd and Perez are relievers… Plus we hung on to Descalso.
Not bad for a team that’s “going for it.”
Acquire Wlad!!!
Strictly prospect talking
we lost both Rasmus and Wallace. And while Todd and Perez were relievers, the were still two of our highest rated prospects.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
losing 2 to the majors
isn’t really a bad thing — as long as they’re allowed to play
by chuckb on Jul 26, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Perez and Todd for DeRosa
This makes me sick
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 26, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
considering Perez has been awful and DFA'd
and DeRosa has been playing well, it doesn’t look awful…
okay, yes it does.
by longhornscardinals on Jul 26, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I was about to say
Whaaaa?
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Jul 26, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Perez has been fantastic after a rough start
he just needed to get acclimated to his new team.
So glad we kept Motte instead, he’s just great.
I heard he had heel issues
And they were thinking of doing season ending surgery on him
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 26, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah they will be. But he has been amazing recently.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
i knew i should have looked up what i was saying before typing it
damn you, lazy sundays.
by longhornscardinals on Jul 26, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Took the words
right outta my mouth. I just read the news at P-D.
by Youneverknow on Jul 26, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
What a stupid fucking move by Mo
I liked the Holliday trade, but the DeRosa trade was just fucking stupid.
From a text from AZ:
“Wow. Was luhnow bored or something? Needed a challenge?”
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
We could potentially have a boat load of draft picks next year
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 26, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Negative on Holliday
DeRosa possibly
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 26, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Glaus, Greene, and Joel
could all net something, too.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
Unless Glaus somehow comes back very strong
Yes to both of them
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 26, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus
Greene isn’t even a Type B so no point to offer arbitration
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 26, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
right, that's my point. no way those guys net us picks
holliday and derosa, yes. glaus and greene, no
I am still holding out some hope of Glaus
The third base market is that weak. I hope the Cardinals sign him to a one year deal even if he does not get offered arbitration
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 26, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Depending on what appens with DeRo and Holliday
I wouldn;t be upset if they offer him arb.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
It is stupid to offer him arb if he still can't throw
He seriously might get $15M+ from arbitration. But if we just resign him and he regains his value at 3B some what. Hopefully he is still a Type A by the end of next season
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 26, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, sure
if he still can’t throw a baseball. In my scenario, that has been improved upon.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
Yeah, my bad
should have seen the list (the stupid, stupid list) before saying anything.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
Wasn't there a list of who all are A's and B's somewhere?
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
Yeah MLBTR has it, Elias ranking
But I pretty much have memorized anyhow
Holliday – A
DeRosa – B close to A
Ankiel – Nothing close to B
Pineiro – Nothing close to B
Glaus – A
Wellemeyer – B
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 26, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
you are kidding about the last one, right?
Welleys 2008 season was good, but it was actually good enough to keep him a B?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
That is some fucking crazy right there
I will never figure out Elias
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
The fact Welley is a B
and Joel isn’t close shows how much the system sucks.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
ankiel is actually a B (as of 11 July)
with very little shot at becoming an A. But his performance lately (1.036 OPS since the ratings were compiled) couldn’t have hurt.
Pineiro was very close to “B”, basically just needs to be rated better than 1 more guy to make it.
Welley is actually a high B with a shot at being an A… wow…
Amazingly, Elias rates Carlos Lee above Albert Pujols. That’s awesome.
link, courtesy of MLBTR and eddie drabek.
the end of every half inning IS a turning point. -Evilfrog
ack
eddie bajek. Meant to check the name before I posted and got caught up in reveling in the Elias silliness and forgot.
the end of every half inning IS a turning point. -Evilfrog
I believe Luhnow has committed Harry Caray
or possibly Hara-kiri
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
We gave up 2 of our top prospects
according to Baseball America, for a 3 month rental of a utility player who is playing with a torn wrist sheath.
AWESOME
Average Fan
Hell Yeah!!!! Farm system is for losers
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 26, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
otoh, the guy has . 987 OPS since the wrist sheath tore
we might want to consider having paletta tear the sheaths off of all of our infielders. Could be the new Tommy John surgery.
the end of every half inning IS a turning point. -Evilfrog
OT, but not really
been out of town all weekend, is it worth going through the last 2 games worth of threads?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
well welle pitched one game
we gave up 23 runs combined in 2 games….so i think i’d pass if i were you
Substitute yourself for the kid and perhaps Larry Borowsky’s legendary all-seeing eye for the tall adult. Or maybe turn the man into a robot. Or whatever represents Dan and Chuck. I think you get the idea.
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 26, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea
but I am still entertained by that comment
I should not have went to the fist game thread for today
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
This picture was supposed to be in it
Not sure why it didn’t wind up there…well, it’s because I’m stupid, but my ego doesn’t generally allow me to make comments like that unless necessary.
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 26, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
well I accept this medal with the utmost sincerity
can also be stupid, it was the first thread, not the fist thread. I guess with the way Welley was pitching, fist works!
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
I watched Under Siege last night.
Also, off topic.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
I don't even watch Wellemeyer games anymore on TV
Let alone follow a game thread, So I say no
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 26, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
No, He is probably following orders from DeWitt
This also would fall more on the players and LaRussa
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 26, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll say it again w/ regard to TLR
dead girl, live boy!
by chuckb on Jul 26, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Are you suggesting accountability?
Heretic!
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 26, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
if we miss the playoffs, this year,
it really won’t be Mo’s fault. Once pujols stops hitting like joe thurston, this lineup is going to be fun.
We have certainly reduced our chances of making the playoffs in the future, but this year we’re in about as good of a position as could possibly be imagined, unless Todd+perez+Wallace+Robinson+Mort+duncan was enough to get Halladay…
the end of every half inning IS a turning point. -Evilfrog
TLR will just say "You should've gotten me Holliday earlier"
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
One first rounder,
two first round supplementals, and two second rounders… for Holliday and DeRo. This is an important two months for Mo
Acquire Wlad!!!
Negative
That is too many draft picks, 3 or 4 at most
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 26, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahh that makes sense
I was thinking of getting draft picks back
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 26, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
holy fucking...
Man killed outside stadium today. Sounds like an alcohol-fueled brawl. Kicked out, then they continued it on the street, where he was BEATEN TO DEATH.
What the shit, Philly.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
That happened today.
I know there was a man beaten to death on Friday outside the stadium, are you saying there was another?!?!
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
wait, maybe it was Saturday evening
so it might be the same thing
link
Still.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Yeah, I think that is the same thing...
Phillies fans are dumb and trash, and the people of Philadelphia are violent and morons.
Philadelphia: The City of Brotherly Love (I mean murders)
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
They beat you to death, but love you in the process
Orwell shit right there…“Love is Death” or something.
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 26, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Philly is a rough, rough place...
I went to go visit at friend at Penn once. I’m thinking Ivy League, old buildings, coffee shops. That f****** place is in Wellston X 2.
Acquire Wlad!!!
My thoughts exactly.
Way to be classy, Philly!
Oh my God!
what the hell is wrong w/ some people!
Isn’t the Eagles’ football stadium the only one in the NFL w/ an actual jail in it? Probably there should be more but that tells you something right there.
What could possibly be so important...
…that someone, in a state of inebriation of course, has to beat someone else to death, all at a freaking sporting event?
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 26, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe he was looking at the stripper wrong
a group of men attending a bachelor’s party at McFadden’s pub, which is attached to Citizens Bank Park
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Back in 2003, March
I had just graduated from Boot Camp and was staying at the Philly Omni Hotel with some of my squad. We went to a pub not far from the hotel and were shooting pool upstairs, above the bar area. About 30-45 mins after we got there, a big ruckus started down below. Before we knew it, the Police, Paramedics, and Fire personnel were out front and we couldnt get out. Im not sure what happened to start the brawl, but a man was beaten to death inside the bar, and another died shortly after being placed on a gurney. Philly is not a town I ever want to live in.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 26, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
that's crazy, man.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i remember a while back, i spent some time at the AF base in trenton
Part of the whole in-processing thing was that they briefed you on all the places you legally couldn’t go, according to the order of the base Commander. Basically amounted to: everywhere a 21yo kid would want to go, is off-limits. lol.
the end of every half inning IS a turning point. -Evilfrog
That's pretty common
at most military installations. Military towns are not good places to live. Any one ever lived in Fayetteville N.C.? Horrible place
Moz=Bad GM
Mo's like a kid who
just got his inheritance. He waited for a little bit, thinking he was going to allocate it wisely, and then apparently went on a bender and said fuck it, i’m blowing this on hookers and blow.
HE SAID WITH A SMIRK
by Dave Barry on Jul 26, 2009 6:33 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Holliday is supposedly uber-religious
Maybe he should be a fancy car or something?
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 26, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
religious =/= moral
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Guys, don't worry. Wellemeyer felt good and had control of all his pitches. Everything is fine
“On Utley’s hit, I thought it was a popup and it went out to right,” Wellemeyer said. “Against Howard, I threw a 2-2 fastball, which was a two-seamer down the middle. He caught it.”
Wellemeyer said he tweaked his calf before coming out in the sixth, but was all right. What bothered him was the result.
“I still felt very good,” Wellemeyer said. “I felt like I had command of all my pitches. I got ahead of a lot of guys. The line doesn’t look good. We lost the game. As far as mechanics, I felt very good.”
what a joke!!
I felt really good with my jump
it was the sudden crash at the bottom of the cliff that really bothered me. The execution was there to fly but the results weren’t what we were hoping for.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 26, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You sure it said Jess Todd to complete the Derosa deal.
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
sorry, bad joke.
we were talking about todd wellemeyer sucking, you reply failed and said “todd traded”, I said “wrong todd”.
I’m extremely angry about losing jess todd right now.
the end of every half inning IS a turning point. -Evilfrog
How could he think that was a popup?
That was a rocket to RF!
Chlorophyll? More like borophyll!
by jd is legend on Jul 26, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I fell down into a hole today.
But my mechanics were good. I placed my left leg in front of my right leg with consistency and I felt I had good command of my walking. From time to time, you just have to say ‘well done, ground’.
by notmorganfreeman on Jul 26, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I completely missed HL's comment.
So ignore me.
by notmorganfreeman on Jul 26, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
"Well done, ground"
is pretty good.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
It's a shame Francisco Samuel proved to be utterly worthless
according to Goold, Cleveland was pretty set on taking him instead of Jess Todd, but Samuel has been atrocious at AA.
He's still pretty young
Give him a couple years to work on it.
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
or maybe a week in the CLE system
given how Perez has pitched, the last 5 games or so.
the end of every half inning IS a turning point. -Evilfrog
does TODD being the PTBNL mean that he will destroy us all from the Indians' rotation?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Wellemeyer is not a good pitcher
And his “Oh well, we will get em next time!” attitude is really starting to piss me off. Send him to Batavia and start Boggs. Sometimes I don’t this team
no such luck...
Argentina or Colombia. Hehe.
(However, it does seem to be Dutch in origin.)
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
My sources tell me Todd Wellemeyer sucks.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 27, 2009 2:37 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Reveal them or I call bullshit...
V, b.
by LukeMP1186 on Jul 27, 2009 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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