Wallace for Holliday and a Reliever overflow thread
by DanUpBaby on Jul 25, 2009 7:00 PM EDT
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The funny thing about the "professional hitter" comment
Is that, by definition, all MLB position players are “professional hitters.”
God
Can we please Trade Glaus for some decent relievers?
Man, with this outfield, need to get rid of that Rasmus guy. :)
Alright.
Let’s see if I’ve got any magic in me today.
On a related note, this game is fucking pissing me off.
You can't teach a hammer to love nails.
wow
a 360 turn by lugo? boog turns that….
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 25, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions
Wellemeyer could have done this.
Bring him in, and Boggs can start tomorrow.
by notmorganfreeman on Jul 25, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions
no more Kinney!
Cardinal fanatic since '82
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 25, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions
Time to end the Kinney madness
He’s striking out no one, walking everyone and getting tatooed.
Not afraid to nitpick
So I just got home...
And I see the GOBs have made us pay for our shiny new offense with a 2008-esque, piece of shit bullpen.
V, b.
Well we did trade away a key part of the pen for it
So what did you expect ?
So did the rule change around here about using the "F" Word?
Just curious?
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
Pardon?
I don’t think we’ve ever had a rule.
You can't teach a hammer to love nails.
by the red baron on Jul 25, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Last year folks were being called out on using it
I dfon’t really care but I remember Lboros getting pissed out it.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
Hmm.
I’d be interested to see a link on that, as there’s never been a moratorium on language around here that I know of. I do recall there was a call for a stop to comments that essentially read, “Go fuck yourself, Tony.”
You can't teach a hammer to love nails.
by the red baron on Jul 25, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing will reach the post-TESS profanity explosion.
Anything that exceeds that is probably acceptable.
It does say on the community guidelines that it isn’t designed to be a family-friendly blog.
by notmorganfreeman on Jul 25, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
we have a rule against
vulgarity. personally I’d like to see less of it—as there are more people here we don’t need a proportional increase of people one-word commenting FUCCKKKK after kinney comes into games—but I only get mad when it’s directed at people/public figures.
Where is the rule?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
There must not be one
I’m just remembering where alot of folks were called out on it last year.
I don’t care….I’ll use it too now!!
FUCK!!!!!!!
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
if there ever was a time for such a thing
this is it.
OTOH, it should be possible to express yourself without using vulgar language. Except when your team is losing 14-5.
the end of every half inning IS a turning point. -Evilfrog
and when you find out that your team just traded away Jess Todd.
FUCK.
the end of every half inning IS a turning point. -Evilfrog
Community guidelines
this blog is written for adults, not children. adults get to cuss — but most of us know where to draw the line. that is, most of us know how to cuss without being vulgar and offending everybody around us.
Not afraid to nitpick
Rollins has been able to hit one pitch all season
and we’ve thrown it to him with a result of 5 RBI’s
Yes
[pushes self away from the table]
I’ve definitely had enough of this Kinney.
by mojowo11 on Jul 25, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bullpen Meltdown
Not cool. Josh Kinney left all of his good pitching in his old Ulnar Collateral Ligament.
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 25, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions
breaks my heart
i had such high hopes for him.
the end of every half inning IS a turning point. -Evilfrog
ok thats enough for me
may me leaving be good luck!
and try not to think that tlr will be forced to pitch welley 6 -7 innings no matter what due to bullpen usage
His PC was 37 after the 1st
Because for some reason he was scared of throwing strikes to everyone but Howard
His first few pitches every AB
seemed to be clearly off the plate… the K-zone quandary seemed to only come into effect 4-5 pitches into the ABs
i am an optimist,
but i got my standards
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
People were yelling at me earlier for saying that the game was over.
Are they happy now?
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
Motte and Kinney's already high ERA's =
^^^^^^^ Skyrocketing
Just got on. What happened to Lohse? Kinney auditioning for Batavia?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Regular suck or was he hurt again?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
RH sliders don't work against lefties
Because they end up down and in.
How about a tailing FB?
Is anyone listening?
Well...
…when Kinney was healthy he threw a really tight one that he could tie lefties up with at will. That pitch, AKA his best one, has disappeared, and predictably Kinney has been pretty bad.
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 25, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
rec'd
Schumaker: "Finally, we get a middle-of-the-order hitter!"
DeRosa: "I guess I was just an appetizer."
did Tim McCarver
really just say “bludgeon” on live TV?
Schumaker: "Finally, we get a middle-of-the-order hitter!"
DeRosa: "I guess I was just an appetizer."
In Kinney's defense
He was a crappy choice against a string of LH batters because he’s a slider pitcher.
He must be all Tony had left (or wanted to use).
at least victorino's on my fantasy team
Schumaker: "Finally, we get a middle-of-the-order hitter!"
DeRosa: "I guess I was just an appetizer."
All right.
New rule:
Anyone who says during a Cardinal loss that, “At least so and so (the guy killing the Cards on said day), is on my fantasy team” gets a punch in the throat.
You can't teach a hammer to love nails.
by the red baron on Jul 25, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah that's a good point. i'll avoid it in the future
Schumaker: "Finally, we get a middle-of-the-order hitter!"
DeRosa: "I guess I was just an appetizer."
As long as he's a Cardinal.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Absolutely.
You can also use a player not in the game being discussed. The rule only applies specifically to not celebrating the fantasy accomplishments of a player currently beating up on the Birds.
You can't teach a hammer to love nails.
by the red baron on Jul 25, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesnt he go tomorrow?
Looking forward to that slugfest
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
I think you are confused
That’s tomorrow night.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 25, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
Schumaker: "Finally, we get a middle-of-the-order hitter!"
DeRosa: "I guess I was just an appetizer."
We lost by 18 runs, I'll have you know.
20-2. And an inning of perfection from Grit.
by notmorganfreeman on Jul 25, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Whelp I'm done
I have a yard to mow. Damn honey-do list and poor pitching!
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 25, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, I got a lot of driving to do.
I’ll listen to the rest of this ‘fiasco’ on the ‘radio’
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
Can't help but wonder if the reason Jess Todd hasn't been called up again
is because they are hoping the Indians will overlook him when selecting a PTBNL.
Does little good to sell the horses from the farm when the pigs move to the mound. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
geico commercial out of context
gecko to old man: was it rather old and wrinkly
old man to gecko: YEAH! you saw it!?!?
yeah now we'll get to see some fun
Schumaker: "Finally, we get a middle-of-the-order hitter!"
DeRosa: "I guess I was just an appetizer."
If we pitch Wellemeyer tomorrow than we will lose by 20
The Redbirds are of the highest priority to me... As it should be
Put him on the mound. . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
i'm giving up on keeping track of assine comments made by tim mccarver
"You wait for a strike, then you knock the shit out of it"- Stan Musial
Are we really surprised?
The Phillies beat the living hell out of us about once per series. It’s tradition…
V, b.
Of course the bad news...
Wellemeyer is pitching tomorrow, so we may be looking at two this series…
V, b.
Why would you not ...
move Lugo to 2B and bring Ryan in at SS? This seems like an assanine excuse to play Joe Thurston.
asinine excuses to play joe thurston are what tony dreams about at night
Schumaker: "Finally, we get a middle-of-the-order hitter!"
DeRosa: "I guess I was just an appetizer."
Yeah. I am not happy with Tony giving in already. We have a good line-up. I would have let them play it out.
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
Well when I posted that comment it was more like a 5-6 run lead.
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
I guess, but ...
why does he still think that Thurston is a defensive upgrade to Schumaker? I haven’t seen any evidence that Thurston plays defense enough better to justify that tag.
Good game by Ank.
Motte….Learn another God Damn F*cking pitch already!
He has some homework to do over the off season.
Holliday.
Uh huh, oh yeah.
Holliday.
He will be so nice.
Or don't use him in back to back days
or espically in a day game after a night game. His max effort delivery seems to work best with a day of rest.
I think it has more to do with teams figuring him out the second time they see him
“Time fastball”
“Don’t swing at weak slider”
i really wish tony would put Pornstash in... Yadi looks like he's about had it with this one
Schumaker: "Finally, we get a middle-of-the-order hitter!"
DeRosa: "I guess I was just an appetizer."
He'll be pitching soon enough. . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
bastard-coated bastards
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
bastard coated bastards
with bastard filling, covered in bastard sauce and topped with whipped bastard.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Jul 25, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
And a bastard cherry on top.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
This Phillies offense is the best in the league
I hate it but it’s true
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
Awesome
Kind of funny now…
And we have Wellemeyer going tomorrow, so we can guarantee a win there.
Go Cards!
GolfHog44
for whomever he is facing. . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I really thought Brad Thompsons androgyny would help him here
"You wait for a strike, then you knock the shit out of it"- Stan Musial
Verdict on the magic today: Not even a little bit.
Oh, well. I gave it a shot. I do believe I’m going to find something less painful to do with the rest of my afternoon. I’m thinking of finally giving myself that vasectomy I’ve had my eye on.
You can't teach a hammer to love nails.
I think I might just go to bed super early
Cardinal fanatic since '82
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 25, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
BIG day for DICK
Schumaker: "Finally, we get a middle-of-the-order hitter!"
DeRosa: "I guess I was just an appetizer."
ank ate his wheaties today
Cardinal fanatic since '82
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 25, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions
Rasmus could've
hit that double better.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 25, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Get your rally caps on
In all seriousness though, Ank’s had a great game
holy shit
was that the laser again? swear to god i just saw it
Schumaker: "Finally, we get a middle-of-the-order hitter!"
DeRosa: "I guess I was just an appetizer."
i'd rather just forcibly sterilize all the men
Schumaker: "Finally, we get a middle-of-the-order hitter!"
DeRosa: "I guess I was just an appetizer."
yeah but
the foul ball girls are cute
Schumaker: "Finally, we get a middle-of-the-order hitter!"
DeRosa: "I guess I was just an appetizer."
Depends on the method of sterilization.
My method would be decidedly more bloody. And noisy. And then bloody again.
You can't teach a hammer to love nails.
by the red baron on Jul 25, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
It really makes me sick that they are pitching Welly tomorrow
The Redbirds are of the highest priority to me... As it should be
Forfeit
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Jul 25, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Pornstache!!!!!
Schumaker: "Finally, we get a middle-of-the-order hitter!"
DeRosa: "I guess I was just an appetizer."
I was in a restaurant when all that laser shit happened...
I could see it but not hear it…what were they saying?
V, b.
let's go Thursty. make us proud
Schumaker: "Finally, we get a middle-of-the-order hitter!"
DeRosa: "I guess I was just an appetizer."
man
he has no idea what is going on at the plate, ever
Schumaker: "Finally, we get a middle-of-the-order hitter!"
DeRosa: "I guess I was just an appetizer."
Back to back games of Horton and Claibourne
is sooooo painfull. Where the heck is Rooney? Can’t the Cards get better subs for the play by play guys on the radio?
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
someone needs to put Tim McCarver out of his misery
Schumaker: "Finally, we get a middle-of-the-order hitter!"
DeRosa: "I guess I was just an appetizer."
just try to imagine being him
i’m sure it’s worse
Schumaker: "Finally, we get a middle-of-the-order hitter!"
DeRosa: "I guess I was just an appetizer."
you mean out of OUR misery
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
Tim: "How many teams have the athletic outfielders that the Phillies have?"
Ibanez backs slowly away…
As tough as a macadamia nut tree
WTF does that even mean tim?!?
"You wait for a strike, then you knock the shit out of it"- Stan Musial
tim's voice just jumped about four octaves
that was amazing
Schumaker: "Finally, we get a middle-of-the-order hitter!"
DeRosa: "I guess I was just an appetizer."
I know
they practically ignored the Ankiel upper deck home run because they were bullshitting
Cardinal fanatic since '82
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 25, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously
the phillies have one more hit than us and nine more runs?
and what happened to our pitching?
i remember when lohse was our ace at the beginning of the season
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
We still have three aces.
And a lot of dross.
by notmorganfreeman on Jul 25, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
long long ago
in a galaxy far far away
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
I really wish MLB extra innings would shos out of market Fox Games
F%#& Billy Beane. Actually... I kinda like Holliday
one would think that would be a no-brainer
Cardinal fanatic since '82
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 25, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
You're supposed to be watching whatever AL East team happens to be playing on your Fox affiliate
by brackenthebox on Jul 25, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually it's always the Dodgers or the fucking Angels
F%#& Billy Beane. Actually... I kinda like Holliday
by vivaelpujols on Jul 26, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Let's see some homers for Pujols and Holliday this inning while there's no pressure on them.
by notmorganfreeman on Jul 25, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions
don't waste em
we’ll need em tomorrow
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
It's like studying before a test.
You still want to know the answers.
by notmorganfreeman on Jul 25, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Two triples in two days?!
Damn Lugo! Where you been all my life?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
that's what epstein is sayin
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
That's alright.
I’m sure he’ll feel a little better next season, when Duncan plays better.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
here you go
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
so there's cheap soda for those in STL
not all is lost.
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
mobile on the run is my shit
"You wait for a strike, then you knock the shit out of it"- Stan Musial
more for the 25cent drinks when the cards score 6 runs
"You wait for a strike, then you knock the shit out of it"- Stan Musial
rick-dick
has come around a bit since cd was traded
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Perhaps together
The formed a symbiotic lifeform called sucK.
by olddomination on Jul 25, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
This Phillies team will be TOUGH in the playoffs
IF we can get there ourselves. Right now I don’t see any NL team beating them in a 7 game series.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
Can't wait for tomorrow's game (sarc)
Well you can’t say LaRussa’s lineup choices were to blame with Lugo and Ankiel combining for 7 hits.
Losing this bad and scoring runs is a positive. Offensive efforts like this may help win those 4-2 or 5-3 games they’ve lost all year and maybe build on that awe-inspiring 5-39 record when falling behind by 2.
You can blame him for...
using Motte for 2 days in a row.
I personally think he should have made a bigger stink over the laser pointer. That’s a pretty serious thing, they should at least played the game under protest. I would have MLB go over the game tape and see just how many batters were hit by it. And I would urge the Phillies to have better security (especially since it came back later, after they stopped the game for it, which is inexcusable) or forfeit the next game that is effected by it.
Kinney's WHIP: An impressive 2.51
When a guy’s whip wouldn’t lead the league in ERA 100 games in, it’s safe to say his ass should be sent packing.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
You gotta wonder...
if Mo could’ve gotten the A’s to throw in Michael Wuertz instead of that 1.5 million towards Hollidays contract.
I seriously just assumed he was going to come
I was baffled
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 25, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i have a feeling it was the money
they probably gave mo a choice between a reliever and the 1.5 million
Tony blew it today
when he tried to avoid using his long man in the hopes of using him tomorrow when Welly blows.. Motte just doesn’t have the stuff for middle innings. If he can’t bring at least two pitches to the party, he would be worthless in a playoff scenario anyway. The fast ball attack is just a novelty. I’m for converting Welly back to hard throwing reliever. Start looking at the kids for a fifth maybe.
we will be getting help from the minors
tony pretty much said as much during the in-game interview. of course, he still could have saved thompson, but i digress.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
Boggs should be starting in place of Welle
and Jess Todd should be up here instead of Kinney or Motte.
Might as well get use out of Todd before he heads to Cleveland.
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