Game 99 Open Thread: Cardinals at Phillies
by DanUpBaby on Jul 24, 2009 6:34 PM EDT
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I'm, uh, excited to see what Pineiro does today.
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If I may ask
Anyone have a place for the out-of-towners to watch this online?
This is kinda key. Big game. Ya know.
don't worry about it
lugo’ll probably play again this weekend
by DanUpBaby on Jul 24, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
According to MLB.com
They’re offering live lookins of Holliday atbats.
by cubsfaninatl on Jul 24, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Lineup
Julio Lugo 2B
Mark DeRosa 3B
Albert Pujols 1B
Matt Holliday LF
Ryan Ludwick RF
Yadier Molina C
Rick Ankiel CF
Brendan Ryan SS
Joel Pineiro P
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jul 24, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions
Cleanup maxima.
I’m thinking we can get a whole Latin theme going for the Roman.
by notmorganfreeman on Jul 24, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions
THROW MORE SINKERS!!!!
Oh, and welcome to the ballclub, Matt! ;-)
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
Holliday took a train, in case anyone was wondering
Arrived 20 minutes before conference. No parachute, even.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
How pedestrian.
YOU DO NOT IMPRESS ME, MATT HOLLIDAY.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
who's on stache watch?
We need some HD cameras.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
the other watchers are saying the staches are gone
I looked away for a second…
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
No "rent-a-cop"
to get him through dangerous downtown Philadelphia? (Gratuitous Josh Bard reference…)
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Jul 24, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
my lame, lame live-blog of Mo's interview
Someone else will have to fill in expressions, I forgot how to touch-type all of a sudden.
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2009/7/24/961768/cardinals-still-acquire-matt#18638537
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
one thing I didn't include
The Cat claims Cardinal nation is OVERJOYED.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
The Cat
didn’t check out the 2000 some-odd posts here today, did he????
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Jul 24, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
the guys in the truck are slackers!!!
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
jeebus! Roman is Helitech Hero already?!
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
well hello
Holliday is “giggling with Skip.”
He’s in, apparently.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Why do I feel
as though I’m missing something by not having Cardinals Live! on my cable? Ah, well…
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Jul 24, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
they're only relevant a few times a year
Hence my live-blogging. A public service.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
also, no, I cannot speed-type and think at the same time
that’s all on me
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Is this Happ's last start as a Phillie
how serendipitous on our Roman Holliday!
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 24, 2009 6:44 PM EDT reply actions
Well...
Maybe if our new line-up lights him up enough, Toronto won’t want him anymore and the Phillies don’t make the deal.
Too wishful?
Shannon sounds even more pessimistic
At least about the go big or go home aspect.
“Back to the drawing board” he slurs says, if it doesn’t work out.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
is tonight's game on FSMW
and one of the one’s comcast decided not to carry?
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
Should be on FSMW.
That’s where the source of the away feed for MLB.tv.
by notmorganfreeman on Jul 24, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm getting closer
and closer to switching to Direct TV. and I used to be very anti-satellite dish.
(in Decatur)
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
and it's never nights that I have softball
only nights that I plan on sitting at home and watching the game
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
I'm in the same boat...
I hate Comcast with a passion, but this is nothing that hasn’t been mentioned in this space before.
Does anyone have a link for watching the game on the interwebs?
my understanding
is that Comcast didn’t purchase all of the games, but Direct TV did. So I will probably end up at the bar
(hoping my wife gets called into work, so I can)
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
Coed tourney starts Monday (we lost 1 game)
Mens league goes until late August..
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
ahh
Our coed tourney started this week, We lost to the number 1 team in the league. And didn’t win a game. Definitely need to get on a mens team next year. Or atleast find a better coed team…..
four bases? four hits this game? four games till he gets a hit? four hits before he breaks his
wrist?
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
exactly my thought, sadly
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Let me Start Over...
Over Under on at-bats before Holliday gets his first hit? 4 At-Bats? Under for me.
Go Cards!
GolfHog44
I like your subject!
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 24, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Rosenthal...
…is very fucking short.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 24, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions
Boosh!
You can't teach a hammer to love nails.
by the red baron on Jul 24, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
....what.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
crap, I had a phone call and missed it
Are they all clean-faced?
Did they rip Todd’s stache off and shave to cover it up?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
no, I saw it in DC
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Someone tell Rosenthal to go away
His baseball opinion is worthless. Just report rumors because your baseball acumen is severely lacking.
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Dan is talking to Ken Robothal.
Even he thinks prospects trade can come back to haunt you.
really?!
But even if Holliday leaves, we always have those picks!!
tear.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
My hotel in Springfield, MO has it.
hee hee
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Out on the Coast
They’re interviewing the guy that mowed Brett Wallace’s parents lawn. They’re talking to his high school coach who said he even closed for his team, besides doing maintenance on the field.
Really.
Must be the west coast.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
What?
All I was saying is that Brett Wallace is from the west coast, where they would air this type of interview. That’s all.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Oh I know...
Nothing to do with iving on the west coast, watching birds, blowing people’s minds with weird posts, offering up amateur clinical diagnoses, etc.
Of course you were talking about Wallace’s origins.
;-)
cardinal nation at this moment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvdhN_pXTsc&feature=related
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
hey y'all
been busy the last couple weeks, haven’t had much to time to hang out in the threads.
So…..I understand there’s been some excitement recently….
Dan looks SO EXCITED
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I'm sure he is
He’ll cream himself as soon as Holliday does anything.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 24, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
this line of conversation is kinda disgusting.
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Matt Holliday walked into the interview
I saw him take the podium and
I JIZZED IN MY PANTS!
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 24, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
ironically this is after the pornstaches are gone
If fellow watchers are to be believed…
= missed the player interviews
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
looks like Boog still has his
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Wow.
Two links to Jizzed In My Pants in two days.
You can't teach a hammer to love nails.
by the red baron on Jul 24, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Well played
I’m 38 years old (39 next Thu.!…wait no exclamation point, this is bad) and I find those SNL Digital Shorts hilarious.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 24, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
he gets to ask real big boy questions
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
he won his lawsuit
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Tony
The team will come together better if you PLAY THE BEST PLAYERS. Like, o, i dunno. COLBY RASMUS.
Just because you screwed Ankiel up 9 years ago doesn’t mean you are obligated to play him now.
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mozeliak's gotta be shaking his head
at least colby’s mired in a semi-slump, otherwise there’d be a riot…
by RedbirdAvenger on Jul 24, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
enjoy those Philly cheesesteaks, Colby
It’s gonna be a long two months…
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
It doesn't matter
Ankiels been in a slump all GD season. There’s no reason to not have Rasmus’s defense in center. Colby’s had plenty of rest recently. This is TLR playing favorites and his own inaccurate assessments of players.
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At the end of the year
Rasmus will have the 3rd most PAs of all players. And depending on how many times Lugo starts against lefties he could have the 2nd most.
Great.
And let me ask again, why are we not fielding the best team when we’re playing a team like the Phillies. The only argument that makes a shred of sense is Pineiro being on the mound as a groundball pitcher. Even so, why give the Phillies any advantage at all. Our margin for error against a team like this isn’t that high.
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Right I get they're equally inept to date against lefties
(although the minor league track record is in Rasmus’ favor — Ankiel lacks a real minor league track record). Rasmus had a day off on the 20th. That argument doesn’t hold water.
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And Rasmus's defense is clearly superior in CF.
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rasmus is a 10-15 run+ defensive CF.
ankiel is a 0 to -5 run defensive CF.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
I think when Rick is healthy (and who knows how often that is)
he’s a average CF. I think Colby’s defense is the kind that might stop people talking about Edmonds after 5 years or so.
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You're suggesting that we don't HAVE to find AB's for Ank?
Blasphemy!!!
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 24, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Rick is still
on the block. If Tony threatens to bury Colby , Mo will get a pitcher for him. Maybe a bad one.
You know I hate to think that Tony is this emotional
but I think you are right about Ankiel. Tony is so expressionless on the field and it hides this huge overwhelming emotion that is under the surface.
Get over it Tone. There’s no crying in baseball.
He did not mention Rasmus once that interview
I swear, if Ankiel weren’t sucking so horribly this season, Rasmus would be bolted to the bench.
“It moves Ankiel down..” NO…Rick Ankiel being terrible moves him down, and it should move him to the bench!
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 24, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
the funniest thing about all this "protecting Albert" stuff
Is Albert is having a mini-slump.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I also think...
the best protection is having guys on base in front of him. I’d like to see Holiday hit 2nd instead of 4th.
we can probably trade him for Manny
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Jul 24, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
send him to Memphis then trade him to the Red Sox
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
maybe Al's trying to be subtle
And he means the other coup.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
No...
a coup would be when DanUp, Az, and sundry others invade Busch and take over Mo’s office…
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Jul 24, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
HL, you better be working on that tunnel
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
That picture of Holiday in a Cardinals hat and turtleneck is soooo photoshopped
Nice work FSMW
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
where's vexed?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Thank god for mute buttons
If I had to listen to Al rave about this deal all night I’d have to kill myself.
I think there are very legitimate reasons to be excited about this trade.
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You know what?
You might be right, but even in that case Al wouldn’t understand them and would still have stupid things to say.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Jul 24, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea it sucks tryin to watch FSMW-HD, mlb network, sportscenter, and espnnews all talk bout the cards and holiday, my hands cramping up from flipping the channel,
by SKyNYrDCHiEF44 on Jul 24, 2009 7:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
So sad that so many people
Consider themselves informed because they listen to Dan and Al. A coup? We got a big short term lift, but we paid an arm and a leg to get it.
it's just a flesh wound!
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
That interview with TLR a little while ago...
…has literally turned me off on LaRussa forever and ever. I have crossed that Rubicon.
Ludwick has the talent, but not the experience? How about a season of being one of the best hitters in all of baseball last year? How about the first and most recent months of the season, when he hit the holy shit out of the ball?
No mention of Rasmus, who has been one of the best CFers in all of baseball this season with the glove, as well as an effective hitter? Seriously, Tony…open your damn eyes.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 24, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions
Lugo's working on his stache...
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
number 12
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
the Rose continues his growth
also warning track power
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
DeRosa's like I got powar, too!
Nice try guy.
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
+2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
If this guy (Happ) stays in the nl he is gonna give Raz a run for his $ for ROTY.
by SKyNYrDCHiEF44 on Jul 24, 2009 7:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Opened the window and a breeze blew in and I...
You can't teach a hammer to love nails.
by the red baron on Jul 24, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
This really never happens you can take my word I won't apoligise, that's just absurd Mainly your fault from the way that you dance and now I...
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
In all fairness
Both outs were crushed
by dcfcblues on Jul 24, 2009 7:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
dan theory
Just before he goes on air, he calls his kids. So after ten minutes of excited baby-talk, he starts his call…
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
First Pitch Swinging for Albert
Sad, he never does that…he’s gotta get out of this slump.
Go Cards!
GolfHog44
Albert is not squaring up the ball....
Someone go adjust his settings and calibrate him please! Don’t we have a technician on staff?
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
can we bribe Dee Dee?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
to top it all off
I still don’t think Albert looks Albert-ish. Hasn’t since before the ASG.
If he’s in a leveling-off period, let’s see how this offensive powerhouse really works without him…
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
He hit an oppo home run and a frickin laser beam off the 2nd deck in the 1st game back...
Not afraid to nitpick
all i want is fricking sharks with fricking laser beams on their heads!
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
I thought he'd break out of it then, too
But he went right back to it. Doesn’t look right at the plate, just imperceptibly off.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
.273 .360 .545 after the break...
Dunno if that’s considered a slump? I guess it might be for him.
Not afraid to nitpick
if you think of a slump as a certain number of standard deviations from the mean
then I guess Al OPSing only<?/> .900 count
it's per at-bat
I’m trying to rustle the numbers and still watch the game.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
got it
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
save us Jo-El!
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
DeRosa
is going to do everything he can to hold down the sweet 2nd spot. Embellishing next years contract numbers isn’t a bad thought.
protection for apu
is like, impossible
give anyone a choice on to pitch to, apu or holliday and who wins
i agree the best to get apu good at bat opportunities is the people in front of him
protection is bs
p.s.—tony sucks
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
huzzah for an 8-pitch inning!
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
er . . . 7.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Alright
I’m going to Hammons field. There’s some really fucking annoying children running around outside my door. If this continues during my sleepy time, I will be an angry robot.
Dear Non-existent Parents - A hotel hallway is not an appropriate place for you to let your children (all 8 of them -- I counted) play tag. Put those animal backpack leashes on them or tether them to the air conditioner. Thanks.
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Screw you to SBN with your flipping auto strikeout.
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uhhh
Go Cardinals (and S-Cardinals)
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or iowa cub. i say push them down, azru.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jul 24, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Will Ferrell Old School style
can do.
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buerhle will be a cardinal.
one day. we hope. and throw another perfect game.
by hangingfromatree on Jul 24, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
good point
so between Holliday and Rasmus should have at least one guy in any given lineup who can steal some (tho they don’t let Colby run much)
I like *that*
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Holliday is allowed to steal
learn, Colby.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 24, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions
3 silver slugger awards
The poster formerly known as JoeyBombs.
Matt Henderson
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die.
I laughed
yeah philly
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Whiteyball
Now we just need the sac fly.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 24, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions
Ok Molina, hit the ball to the right side fella
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
holliday
reminds me of scott rolen, only instead of being the best defensive third baseman of his generation he’s a pretty good outfielder. Good average, not-quite-a-ton of power, surprise baserunning.
he reminds me of the loch ness monster, except he plays baseball and doesn't sleep in a lake.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jul 24, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
According to Peter Gammons
Holliday is “the best LF in all of baseball.”
Seriously. He said that this afternoon as a guest on the local ESPN Radio (D’Marco Farr and whoever the other dude is…never can remember his name).
That's not according to Gammons
it’s according to stats.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
if you're not watching... lightning and thunder
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I know.
He’s only the second hardest player to strike out. What a slacker.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
who's the first?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Luis Castillo?
I think.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Yadi's a little behind.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Ok ump that was high and outside....and a late call...
Starting the countdown like suggested:
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
You can try to hide Rick Ankiel
but they game will find him.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 24, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions
ank back?
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
SWEET!!
"Baseball has been good to me since I quit trying to play it." - Whitey Herzog
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jul 24, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions
OMG ANKIEL SHOOD START EVERY GAME TRADD
RASMUS FOR DINNER
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die.
Rasmus' reaction (in southern accent): 'Aw sch-fucks'
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
Dan, that's not rain on your pants
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
see what can happen
when you don’t go low and away to rick-dick
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Think our manager is bad?
When asked about whether he’d prefer the handful of prospects that the Blue Jays have asked for (including tonight’s starter) or Roy Halladay, Charlie Manuel said:
“I prefer the horse.”
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 24, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
manuels's not getting any younger.
he might not be around to manage the prospects.
by hangingfromatree on Jul 24, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
None of this will count
because we are going to get rained out.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 24, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions
Boog!
Meanwhile, the players are struck by lightning.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Damn you rain!
"Baseball has been good to me since I quit trying to play it." - Whitey Herzog
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jul 24, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions
DAMN YOU RAIN, GO AWAY, I WANT TO WATCH SOME FUCKIN BASEBALL
ARGGGGGGGH
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
No it's not...
Because if the pitch is out of the zone, the hitter will (theoretically) lay off it…
V, b.
that's the point
of sending runners with 3-2, two outs: there’s no chance of a strikem out, throw em out.
by hangingfromatree on Jul 24, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
it is.
serious as a heart attack. it’s the exact same result as a hit and run, because if the ball’s in play, the baserunner advances the extra station.
by hangingfromatree on Jul 24, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
So any time runners are in motion...
and the batter swings, it’s a hit and run. Is that what you’re telling me?
V, b.
don't have to give a batter a "hit-and-run" sign
because he knows the count’s 3-2 and the runners will be moving. but if he takes a ball, the runner is protected.
by hangingfromatree on Jul 24, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
The phrase:
“if he takes a ball” eliminates it as a hit and run. The purpose of a hit and run is to open a hole for the hitter, and you swing regardless. The purpose of starting the runner on 3-2 with 2 outs is to get a head start. No defenders are covering any bases, so no holes are opened up. It is in no way the same thing…
V, b.
but no.
starting a runner on a hit-and-run is asking the batter to protect the plate regardless of pitch location; he’s trying to give the runner a head start and an extra base and [yes!] also get the infielders out of position, but even if running 3-2 isn’t really called a hit-and-run, the extra station element is still in play, just with the added safety of walk protection. it’s like having insurance on the pitch. but he’s still got to swing at anything close.
by hangingfromatree on Jul 24, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
a hit-and-run
is taking a risk. Starting the runner on 3-2, 2 outs is not a risk.
That is a non-trivial difference. A hit-and-run is supposed to be a surprise. It would be surprising to not leave early with a full count and 2 out.
no.
that would be bad baserunning. but that’s not the point. the goal is essentially the same, regardless of risk.
by hangingfromatree on Jul 24, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
To Maximize the Benefit of a Hit with a 3-2 Count
Best case, you turn first to second into first to third and so on.
No it isn't bad baserunning
A hit and run means the runner goes regardless of the jump he gets. You’re wrong, basically everyone else here agrees that you are wrong. A 3-2 steal is not a hit and run.
Not afraid to nitpick
i meant the bad baserunning
was your example of a “surprise” if a runner didn’t go 3-2, 2 outs, with the force on
by hangingfromatree on Jul 24, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry
Okay here we go. A runner without an open base behind him running before the pitcher has finished his motion in the situation where there are 2 outs and a 3-2 count on the batter is “starting the runner”, not a “hit and run”.
Not afraid to nitpick
unless the runner's on 2nd
and there’s no force. and the pitch comes ball four. and he beats the throw.
by hangingfromatree on Jul 24, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
mythical.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 24, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
my mistake
I guess its a steal if you are on 2nd, not being forced, and the hitter gets walked but you still advance to third. That is beside the point your attempting to make. At least I think.
It's just baseball. It's what you do.
Everybody knows it. There is no strategy. Not a steal, hit run…anything. It’s just what you do.
it makes sense
there is nothing to be lost by running on 3-2 2 outs if your already being forced to go. You obviously don’t want to get picked off but that’s why you don’t take off until the pitcher has committed to going home. There are only so many outcomes and none can hurt you by running.
But the Count is Different, so they are Different Beasts
Hit and run could happen with ANY count. Starting the runner(s) ALWAYS happens on a 3-2 count.
My goodness...
Hit and runs are 100% about opening up holes. That’s why 99% a guy swings and misses, the runner is thrown out. Does the runner get a slight jump if the ball is put in play? Yes. But that’s just an indirect effect. The ENTIRE purpose of starting the runners is to get a jump for the baserunners if the ball is in play. You are completely wrong.
V, b.
slight jump?
he gets a HUGE jump. don’t use percentages when there’s no measuring singular purpose, especially when there are clearly more than one beneficial result. the argument is about what the potential drawbacks are, and that’s where the major differences are in the two plays.
by hangingfromatree on Jul 24, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Right...
He gets a HUGE jump, which is why he gets thrown out at 2nd in virtually every instance that the batter swings and misses. I’m done arguing with you. You’re completely, 100%, totally wrong.
V, b.
Except no one ever calls it a hit and run, it's starting the runner
How bout we have a vote?
Not afraid to nitpick
never called a hit-and-run
but it’s essentially the same thing, just safer.
by hangingfromatree on Jul 24, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Look,
you’re wrong. We all know you’re wrong. People are being diplomatic about it b/c you’re new.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
The Point of a Hit and Run
…is to start the runner to get one of the MIs moving and out of position. You then hit the ball into the vacated spot.
That ball just hit a hole, but not because 4 was moving to cover the bag.
but a hit-and-run
protected by a potential walk.
by hangingfromatree on Jul 24, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Rain delay
due to our thunderous new lineup?
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die.
haha, that's right. even the tarp guys in Washington SUCK
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Just assume its a suburb of Chicago...
thats what the rest of the world does…
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
Not far from Lasalle-Peru
off I-80 about halfway between Chicago and Rock Island.
by Merry CRasmus on Jul 24, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Rain Delay programming
I wish they’d show an old game(like 2004) instead of random Andy Benes nonsense.
Would especially like to see Chris Porter as I do not believe he actually exists.
Benes bro's?
Is it true that Andy and Alan didn’t get along? I can’t remember now.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
well shit more rain
great start for the new guy, though
and way to go, rick!
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
game will get canceled
GOB can’t allow for Holliday to get a hit in his first AB (he says “HA” to DeRosa) and for Ankiel to get a 2 out…wait…2 OUT!?!?!…RBI
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
Radar looks like it could be through pretty quick...
Severe Thunderstorm Warning for Philly…but moving through fast. Should be back in an hour or so I would say.
Go Cards!
GolfHog44
I find it hillarious ...
that after all the pissing and moaning that Ankiel drives in the first run with a hit.
Oh I do! I do!
I love Colby, and I want to see him in CF for a long time. That said, Ankiel is here, and I’d like to see him start hitting again.
Maybe you should be happy, or enthusiastic
instead of laughing, I don’t know
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
Oh, I thought you were lavishing in being right
Instead of being excited we are scoring runs…
My bad for the assumption
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
The sad thing is
I’m sure a handful of people on here were actually upset he got a hit.
THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!
I hate him playing over rasmus
but I still want him to succeed. He’s a cardinal for fucks sake.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 24, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You weren't the worst I saw.
Some were just labeling Ankiel as total trash, and saying there was no value in having him play tonight. You seemed to just want to see the best team on the field. I’m ok with that.
Yeah
if he’s the 4th OFer, that’s cool. I just don’t want him and Colby to become 3.5 OFers.
But I think they will.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
From now until the end of the year,
I will bet he’ll be 6th.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
i have him fifth from here on out
Pujols
Skippy
Holiday
Ludwick
Rasmus
But if you think Yadi will have more PAs I wont argue with that. He bats lower in the order and I think he will have more off days. Though we do have a lot of open dates right now.
Actually I don't think Skip will
I think (hope) we’ll see a Skip/Lugo platoon, but I think Yadi and DeRo will.
This is all barring injuries, of course.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
and if skip has a lot of PAs taken away from him
by Lugo than Rasmus might finish the year 2nd. I still think that Yadi batting so low in the order Rasmus has a chance of passing him up.
or the inability to hit anything that isn't straight
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
And that fact that down and in on him acts like the bermuda triangle in that
His bat seemingly disappears every time it passes through that particular zone
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die.
by lunchboxbomb on Jul 24, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
he hit a hr last night
i’m guessing for most of the season it went the way of his ability to hit in general
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
maybe he doesn't feel so much pressure now the cards have help?
seems logical that’s not the kind of guy who can psychologically handle carrying a team
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Not to mention
he’s no longer part of that absurd lefty-lefty platoon that was going on with Duncan.
i hope so
if ank is back, this team is unstoppable
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
what if he is now part of an equally absurd lefty lefty platoon with rasmus?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
right but i wouldnt put it past tony to do something stupid like platooning colby and rick
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't argue with your logic, but ...
I’d expect it to be more likely a 4 person rotation for the 3 OF positions.
Tony will sit Rick
in order to further drive down his cost in order to bring him back. It’s his evil genius.He.Can’t.Help.IT.
tony is really a lot like lex luther when you think about it
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I like how teague concludes he can't hit anything straight, you conclude he can't hit a fastball
That’s not a good prospect for a major league hitter.
Not afraid to nitpick
He cant hit the high fastball, or anything not straight
Better?
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
Much!
But I didn’t realize you were scouting the Ol’ Goaler’s swing… (I couldn’t hit the low fastball, either!)
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Jul 24, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't we see
this “Cardinals Insider” show last night? Ye gads…
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
i just want to get on my soapbox and reiterate my undying hatred for the bastards that run comcast
I get to be like a kid at christmas again waiting for the day that I can tell them to stick their bullshit up their tight fucking asses….
there… i feel better
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions
very sorry to deviate from my normally clean language in my posts
but it had to be said… and i had to swear
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Go to a bar
I think Whitey’s Tip Top on Sheridan has Direct TV.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
im waiting for my wife to get home... maybe we will hit up BWWs
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
They'll have it
Whitey’s is a very pro-Cards bar, FYI, in case you ever want to not go to a Cubs bar in that town.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
thanks for the info... do they have good food there?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Microwaved pizzas only.
But they have cornhole in the back room.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
wait... you mean they have the beanbag game?
or there are some seedy people in the backroom with something other than cardinal baseball on their minds?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Bags, yeah.
I never know what other people call it, but I could pass up typing “cornhole” and “in the back” in the same sentence.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
Holiday
comes out and goes playground. Ankiel responds with a nice measured swing. I’m loving the response of all the players. Yadi stays away from the high 5 line though after his embarrassment.. Albert is completely energized. Logo takes advantage. He is liable to take a position and push Skip into center.
a 3rd CFer?
:)
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
My brain bleeds when you post
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 24, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I almost cried laughing
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die.
by lunchboxbomb on Jul 24, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You think you know what
DeWitt just did Hardcore? Your brain should be bleeding. You have three new major league players, not kids and wanna be’s. Tony will play to win now. He will play Ankiel and Colby will struggle playing with Alpha players, watch.
You heard it here:
if Colby struggles it’s b/c he can’t hang with the alpha dogs. Not because he’s a rookie. It’s because he’s beta.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 24, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have my sources.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 24, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He is more than welcome.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Alpha players?
Wow, wait to take it up a notch. How about the term ML Veterans? And I will still support playing Colby if he does struggle.
I hope this is a joke, if not…..
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
The real reason
Tea is that he went solo 2 months ago. He is self motivated. He swings yard at every pitch. He stopped evolving. His swing is back to may 1st. Ankiel is a complete codependent. He has already responded. This is a fertile environment for him now. And Tony is looking after himself from now on. Gloves are off. Agreements broken.
Seriously...quit the abstract bullshit
Say what you mean.
Rasmus has slugged .480 since May 1st and is 22 years old AND plays a hell of a CF.
Rick Ankiel is a crappy hitter and a home run last night doesn’t change that.
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 24, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Ankiel is a freak
That swing he just made was nice. Which personality was that? If he heats up Tony will play him. Holiday isn’t sitting. Colby has been a pull toy between BD and Tony since January. If Colby starts pressing, it will only get worse. I hope they trade Rick personally.
Just curious, but do you try to be obtuse?
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 24, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
i think 2 months in the hole will be sufficient punishment
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
“Give him another month to think about it.”
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 24, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Ankiel is playing tonigh because
TLR believes he is better than Ras vs. lefties right now. Nothing to do with Alpha males. TLR wizadry.
What?
I’ll say it again…what???
Please tell me you’re not arguing that this one game is representative of anything…you’re not saying that, right?
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 24, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
No redbird
its not. It is very revealing though as to who will connect with the Chemistry. Albert is ecstatic. Even the Phillies are watching the show. Should be a great game. Holiday has been playing baseball with a bunch of players in Oakland. They can score runs. Its takes emotionally responsive team mates to do that. Wainwright shot a an 84 today at Marion.
But what I really
want to know is what type of golf balls Waino hits.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
think you could take him, spants?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Waino or Opera?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
whoa
I meant Waino, but I’ll take this answer too.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Lady Precepts
seriously, they’re the best balls in golf.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
I guess I will be:
Looks like the main storm is heading out quickly, followed by a few showers that will linger for at least 30-40 minutes:
if the wind is going straight east
we are looking at an hour. if it is going Northeast …. it’s going to be a long night.
Moving straight east at this point
I own a black Camaro SS 5th gen; that red one was a pic that i liked… need to change my avatar i guess…
i had 2 4th gens
a 96 RS with Ttops and a 93 Z28. Currently I have an 05 Cobalt SS. I have a 60 mile round trip to work and the Z28 had over 200,000 on it. Needed something with better gas mileage that i didn’t have to work on every few weeks.
I miss the car. in retrospect I should have just bought a beater and kept the Z. I miss that car.
You have pictures of your car?
The all Black one is mine
This was last weekend at a Camaro gathering in St. Charles:
This was after I gave it her first bath:
pretty
Was that a FAST event? Really it was the only Camaro club that i knew of in St. Louis. Not sure if they are still around.
mine would be blue with white hockey strips.
No it wasn't
It was a Z28.com local event… a couple members are in FAST, but FAST is both Camaro’s and Firebirds. There a Camaro only group called Gateway Camaro, which is made up of older individuals who own some of the 1-2nd gens. Not as big as FAST, however.
very jealous
I’m not a muscle car guy (or even a sporty car guy) but the new camaros look like they’re from ten years in the future.
Looks like the showers are expanding a bit; but still moving fairly quickly
If anyone doesn’t know where the stadium is on the radar map, it’s right under the cross-hair mark in the center of the map right below the ‘e’ in Philadelphia…
A Perfect Getaway looks slightly humorous although being a thriller
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
Well so this rain-delay thing...
…is thoroughly anti-climactic. Despite the fact that I hate the Holliday trade on many many levels, I am excited about the fact that he’s playing on the Cardinals. Plus, this is a big series. Oh well…
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 24, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions
yeah
we had momentum!
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
they better be Coming Together
We expect nothing less from our clubhouse leaders. More giggling in the corner!
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
don't know if anybody else posted this but....
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/sweetspot/0-4-98/Losing-faith-in-the-A-s.html
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Thanks Whitey!
Enjoy the meatloaf back at the home tonight!
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 24, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Albert's mini-slump
I keep saying it, so here it is. Kind of. Yeah, I did it on the fly, but looking at all of it together … my eyeballs’ aren’t wrong. Pretend this isn’t Albert Pujols.
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2009/7/24/962028/alberts-mini-slump-raw-data
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
the heck, apostrophes.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
So the Holliday trade
I understand why everyone is mad what with money, prospects(WALLACE), and all the years and odds of losing Holliday. One thing I don’t remember seeing is anyone mentioning much about potential injuries. The team is here to win, we are in a good position, and tinkering a couple spots really might make this team formidable. I know people were talking 2010-2012. What if something happens to one of those guys? Just a thought. I won’t name names for jinx sake.
Tarp comin' off the field...
(sigh) Cardinals Crew on the rain delay… looks like we’ll be back to baseball as soon as the field’s ready, and the pitchers warm up again.
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
hooray
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
barden went down
on holliday? weird.
by hangingfromatree on Jul 24, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a stretch.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
like carp's rumored lifestyle
as the guy who throws haymakers at our outfielders?
by hangingfromatree on Jul 24, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Im sure someone has mentioned this...
but one thing I like about the movements the past couple of days is that we are looking at a potential bench of Ankiel, Glaus, K. Greene, Lugo and Larue…just a week ago we had Stavinoha, Barden, Duncan and Larue. I’ll take that!
IF K. Greene returns,
great; but I’m not really expecting him to make a comeback this season with the Birds. Mental problems are harder to “fix” than physical problems. Get him well, then see if he can still play…
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Jul 24, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
you're right of course
but even without him, our bench looks much better…I’m really starting to feel like this is the kind of team that can run with the Phillies and the Dodgers…I guess we’ll find out in the next week!
In order to retain entertainment value
he should be ordered to wear a protective bicycle helmet at all times.
"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 24, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
That potential bench
Is made up entirely of guys who have been everyday players in the major leagues in at least one season.
Not optimistic on Greene or Santa Glaus, but still…
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 24, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Walked it off...fouled off shin
Then proceeds to take his bat and hit the inside of his shoe
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
I just found out the local Fox I get in HD has switched to the Tigers game for tomorrow
instead I have to watch it in SD.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 24, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions
serious question here for you stat guys
can a really really good player strike out 150+ times a year? do strikeouts hurt the peripheral rate stats? i should know this but i just wanted to know what you guys who really pay attention to the numbers thought
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
yay
nice job jo-EL
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions
The Phillies announcers
have been pretty funny talking about Joel’s sinker. An amazed, puzzled admiration.
by peach concrete on Jul 24, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
i figured that they would be more impressed by his sweet stache
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven't heard them talking about the staches yet.
The away announcers seem to hold that until the later innings when they’ve covered the other topics and things are slow. I’m sure we’ll get there.
by peach concrete on Jul 24, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
They have talked about them
called Joel Rhett Butler.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 24, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh! Sorry.
I must have stepped away. I’m sorry I missed it.
by peach concrete on Jul 24, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
For someone with such great oppo-power...
…Ryan Howard simply refuses to hit the ball to left field willingly.
Granted, that Jo-el sinker was and is filthy.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 24, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions
i would bunt to the left side every time i was up
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
i was in 8th grade when he was on the high school baseball team that won the state tourney...
i was there and remember watching him catch (he wore john lennon-esque glasses then as well)
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
He really loves my friend's hookah.
For, you know, legal tobacco-smoking activities.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
I think tonight
would’ve been a nice barometer to see if he can rock this “new” approach vs. a stacked lineup. Sucks that we had the 48 minute rain delay AND that he fouled that ball off himself. He might not go very long regardless of his effectiveness.
Howard has to use a corked bat
I’ve never seen someone check swing the ball to the wall.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 24, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions
Didn't Albert do that once?
I think it was a double.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I don't know off the top of my head
how many sinkers he’s throwing, but I can say with certainty that it’s a lot less than “more”.
"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 24, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
the team liked the choo choo twain
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
LOL They made that big of deal out of riding a train? Really?
‘Maybe we are coddling these guys too much.’
NAME THAT MOVIE
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
you beat me to it!
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 24, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
That's too easy.
You may run like Mays but you hit like…
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 24, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Where's the bus?
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 24, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I am so tempted to skip Shul tonight
to watch the Cards. But I’ll record the rest of the game and watch it later.
Laters, everyone.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
Well that was horrible
Was Lugo swinging at a bee or something there?
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 24, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions
Bee allergies are very serious.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
They are indeed...
…my brother has them…Not pretty. He literally shits himself looking at a bee hive, and I’ve seen the results when he gets stung.
Not cool.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 24, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
That was one of
those times when I was being not serious. But maybe a little serious.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
don't you love the lack of inflection on the internet?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
really, guys in the truck? Hal McRae and a towel? while the game is going on? REALLY?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Who is the dude that is booing literally ALL of our players?
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
it's just brotherly love
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
last year there were about 400 fatal cases of brotherly love in philly.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
trying to figure it out
Some assistance would be great. I suck at numbers.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
why don't just put diedre pujols on the payroll as the hitting instructor
she seems to know something about hitting
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, can we get a technician in here to work on our machine?
I think the rain shorted out some circuits.
I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.
The day off didn't do the mang any good
he still looks awful up there.
I think all the triple crown talk is getting to him.
see above
It started well before the ASG. I’m trying to back up my eye-test with numbers… screwing around, mostly.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
so for those of us banished to our other senses for this game
is jo-EL on?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions
i hate the DH so...
can we get some love from the GOB for our pitchers when they are batting?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously
none of them should be allowed to swing the bat.
Lohse shouldn’t even be allowed to stand in the batters box.
do you remember a few years ago during interleague play when hideki irabu (spelling?) took his first at bat with the yankees?
it was the funniest thing… he had the toes of his feet just touching the very outside of the batters box
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
ground ball
ground ball out
fly ball out
strike out
ground ball out
walk!?!
ground ball out
infield single
It was awful.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
It was comedic.
He looked at his suddenly empty hand like, “Wha?”
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
you should photoshop a mustache on your frog face there
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 24, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
and evilllllll mustache
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
there goes the no-no.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Those fans may have gotten a wee excited there...
…It was a routine fly ball and they got all thrilled…
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 24, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions
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