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Game 98 Open Thread -- July 23, 2009

St. Louis Cardinals at Washington Nationals, Jul 23, 2009 7:05 PM EDT


 

Wainwright Balester
3.64 FIP --------

Balester makes his first start of the season after putting up a 5.11 FIP for the Nats in '08. Prior to being called up, Balester had a 4.30 ERA w/ 3 BB/9 and 5.7 K/9 for Syracuse of the International League. His WHIP in AAA was 1.519 b/c he's been giving up 10.6 H/9. He appears to be a fastball, curve, change up guy whose fastball averaged 91.5 mph last season.

This game is, of course, a makeup game for the May 3 washout that is the 4th game of a series that the Cards were leading 2-1. We had just been shut down by Shairon Martis the day before. Balester's a righty who we've never faced before and, after being ripped by the disastros 3 times, we need a good game before moving on to Philly.

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Lineup - ick

Schumaker- 2B
Rasmus-CF
DeRosa- 1B
Ludwick- RF
Ankiel- LF
Molina-C
Thurston-3B
Ryan-SS
Wainwright-P

The poster formerly known as JoeyBombs.

by RasRoY on Jul 23, 2009 6:58 PM EDT reply actions  

so 10 run Thursdays!

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 23, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Balestar Contactica!

i don’t remember who i stole this from.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 6:58 PM EDT reply actions  

That would be me

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 23, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha.

i laughed a lot when i read it. apparently no one else thinks it’s funny?

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Genius is seldom appreciated in its own time.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 23, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

you guys here about matt holliday

we might trade wallace to get him. espn said 50-50

by hittmeier on Jul 23, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

looks

a lot more likely than that now

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

damnit
what r u basing this on?

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by RasRoY on Jul 23, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's all at the bottom of the lugo thread
RT @BaseballStone looks like cards will make a deal for holliday. asking price is former 1st round draft brett wallace (via Steve Stone)

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN

The same place that hired Joe Morgan?

by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Jul 23, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

WWL

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adding to Steve Stone rumor

Jon Heyman

rumor is #cards may want #a’s to pay money to cover brett wallace’s $1.8-mil ’08 bonus. plus, holliday makes $13.5 mil.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Good god, this is just retarded.

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Jul 23, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree....

Wallace is worth more than 2 months of Holliday IMO

by RiverRat on Jul 23, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

MO's a fool if that's all the Cards are getting back

you can’t just give him away to a guy who’s desperate to have him

FOR RENT

by gdm426 on Jul 23, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still say BB pays for Ballpark Village

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 23, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

the only good thing about this

if it happens, is that I can go watch the walrus play for the A’s triple A team. But I don’t want it to happen, unless Holliday agrees to sign a multiyear contract for the Cardinals. Which won’t happen.

I want to be the no-talent ass clown!

by RosevilleRedbird on Jul 23, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

This shit is bananas

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy shit

I’ve been out of town, and am still out of town, since Saturday. I’ve done my best to keep up with this team/organization during my trip, but at this point I am lost. The only word I can think of to describe what is going on right now is “clusterfuck.” Am I right?

The Godfather himself has decided to grace us with his presence. This is his damn house. He sleeps 20 feet away.

by thegodfather on Jul 23, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone know where i can watch this game online?

"You wait for a strike, then you knock the shit out of it"- Stan Musial

by Drewshank4 on Jul 23, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

check out

this. I’m at work so I can’t check if it’s on.

by RiverRat on Jul 23, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wallace/Holliday

If the cards are really swapping Brett Wallace, doesn’t it suggest that they are very serious about keeping Pujols? It seemed to me like Wallace would be his natural replacement in a couple of years after we could not afford to keep El Hombre.

by eephuspieces on Jul 23, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions  

But Holliday isn't that good anymore

He’s good but not great like he used to be

The poster formerly known as JoeyBombs.

by RasRoY on Jul 23, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

only 29

he will benefit from a move back to nl

by hittmeier on Jul 23, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just lookin' for that silver lining...

You know, like the special lining in all coors?

by eephuspieces on Jul 23, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec

but in holliday’s defense the evidence that he won’t hit outside of coors (and his OPS+ is still 120) is a half-season in Oakland, where bats go to die.

by DanUpBaby on Jul 23, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

he has started heating up in july

by hittmeier on Jul 23, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

good trade

at the end of the day wallace is still a prospect im a win now kinda guy

by hittmeier on Jul 23, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

he wont be. and he is a prospect for as long as he hasent proven himself

by hittmeier on Jul 23, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

good observation.

he won’t be called up yesterday.

it’s questionable to be willing to trade someone based upon where they are in the organization, in my opinion.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm a "win" kind of guy.

it’s stupid, imho, to trade wallace for 2 months of holliday.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

k say that

when albert leaves cause mangement didn’t give him help

by hittmeier on Jul 23, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brett Wallace is help

If you could have had Jermaine Dye for Colby Rasmus 2 years ago, would you have done it win now guy?

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

holliday twide the player dye was and rasmus better prospect than wallace. I saw him play in college and he could barly play 1st base much less 3rd. i’m not denying that he rakes the ball but his defense is pretty shaky

by hittmeier on Jul 23, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait

did i stumble onto the pd forums?

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

ns

I honestly didn’t expect anyone at VEB to support a wallace/ holliday trade

The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series

by Walking Underwear on Jul 23, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's thinking about hating apple pie.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 23, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

And hoping the Cards put this one away early

so he can pad his stats with meaningless HRs and RsBI.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 23, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy crap guys.

holliday and dunn? we’d have too many outfielders! we’d have to play dunn at like shortstop or something!

/stupidity

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holliday in LF

Dunn at first

Pujols to third

/runs and hides

I think they all have it wrong, they are confusing Matt with Roy

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 23, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

one can only hope

/crosses fingers

The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series

by Walking Underwear on Jul 23, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

if MO's trading Walrus, i would much rather him get Roy in return

we can live with Dunn in LF. hell, we’ve lived with Dick N Dunk

FOR RENT

by gdm426 on Jul 23, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dunn is much worse defensively than Duncan

Seriously. He’s roughly as fast as a one-legged dog out there.

by mojowo11 on Jul 23, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

schu!

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I love it when the second baseman can hit

I know his UZR is terrible, but just subjectively it makes me happy.

by DanUpBaby on Jul 23, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

lead-off double. wow.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 23, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Rec

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

someone penciled in Colby's stache.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 23, 2009 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice work, Dunn

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Jul 23, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

thanks adam dunn

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 23, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

let's trade for dunn

yeah

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Adam Dunn

Helping the Cards win since July 23rd!

by notmorganfreeman on Jul 23, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

uh,,,,um,,,,

he totally meant to do that. he’s helping us by bringing his trade value down.

FOR RENT

by gdm426 on Jul 23, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

behind home plate

8 taken seats, 47 empty?

If I were in DC could I get the equivalent of $75 Cards tickets for $5 or something?

by leefyg on Jul 23, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

cheaper than drugs

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 23, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

One thing you certainly could get

is some Ben’s Chili Bowl. That stuff is good.

by peach concrete on Jul 23, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think its arguably

The poster formerly known as JoeyBombs.

by RasRoY on Jul 23, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow...

Hal McRae’s hat looks even more ridiculous from behind…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 23, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

the new glasses don't help

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 23, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy hell

what was wrong with that pitch ludwick

by hittmeier on Jul 23, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Way to take that pitch right down the middle Luddy

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

damn rain

Not in DC… big thunder here. Gotta go.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 23, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Can Wainwright upstage Buehrle with a perfect game of his own?

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Ya, lets jinx it in the bottom of the 1st, good idea

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

can Chris Duncan make the game saving catch?

too soon?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 23, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice dude...

He only had 25 outs left, and you pissed all over his chances…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 23, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correction, two outs, bottom of the 9th

ball hits off his head Conseco-style, goes over the fence, loses perfect game and no hitter

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flagged as inappropriate.

First time I’ve ever used that feature.

by notmorganfreeman on Jul 23, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just you all wait until it actually happens

Then each one of you will be begging to lick the mud off the bottom of my size 12s

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

have mercy

i luv that curve ball

FOR RENT

by gdm426 on Jul 23, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

WW

Movement looks sharper tonight than I can remember seeing recently. Small sample size yadda yadda

by leefyg on Jul 23, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

DeRosa with the pick

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Like how the guy is just an all around player

it’s too bad the rest of the team plays like crap when he starts.

by TheBirds on Jul 23, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone know where i can watch this game online?

"You wait for a strike, then you knock the shit out of it"- Stan Musial

by Drewshank4 on Jul 23, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

THE SKY IS FALLING

AMIGAD!

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

AAAAAANK

my man!

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

whoo hoo

rick-dick can hit minor league pitching

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 23, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

On that note… Hello everyone!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 23, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

howdy

you seam to have good mojo

FOR RENT

by gdm426 on Jul 23, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. Despite that making me look good, I waited until he hit the HR.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 23, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

no no no no

wallace for holiday straight up

can’t afford him and apu unless dewallet has a saeizure

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 23, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rick hit it because nobody's there

No pressure

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Rick: 'Don't trade me to Boston, bitch!'

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

so fucking good to see

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

RICK

I hate it that the VEB thread is way ahead of the MLB.TV feed

The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series

by Walking Underwear on Jul 23, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

switch to

standard def

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what I do.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 23, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll give it a whirl

The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series

by Walking Underwear on Jul 23, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not looking over his shoulder at Chris Duncan anymore

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I just can't believe...

that Mo would deal Wallace unless they were virtually assured of Holliday re-signing. Even then I’m not sure it’s a good idea, but he can’t be that stupid…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 23, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

you never know

what’s going on inside the castle

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 23, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree

i wonder if the hold up has to do w/ extending Holiday

by kalmavet on Jul 23, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, how is resigning Holliday a deal breaker?

Another albatross contract, YAY! Those never backfire.

by TheBirds on Jul 23, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's another topic entirely...

I’m simply talking about trading a guy you have under control for years for a two-month rental…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 23, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

6:18pm: Ken Rosenthal calls the Cards’ interest “mild, for now.” However, Jon Heyman has a few updates on the proceedings—as noted in the past, Cards manager Tony La Russa is said to “badly” want Holliday. Heyman also reports that the Cardinals might want the A’s to pay a portion of the $1.8MM bonus Wallace received after the 2008 draft.

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Man I hope the Yanks overpay and snatch him...

this will be one time where I’d be glad to hear, “we made the best offer we could, but……..”

by RiverRat on Jul 23, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

On this I say

F Tony

The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series

by Walking Underwear on Jul 23, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

holiday would be nice

but it won’t win the ws because we don’t have the pitching to cover a 7 game series

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 23, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

we don't?

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like

carp, wainright, lohse/pinata

by jxmetal1 on Jul 23, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's always easier to spend someone else's money

he wouldn’t want him badly if he knew just how much it was going to cost

FOR RENT

by gdm426 on Jul 23, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

or

if he were going to be around for the brett wallace era

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

little soon

to be giving wallace an era

by hittmeier on Jul 23, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

the would "potential"

was implied

if duncan gets an era (which just ended) any guy on the team can have an era

we’re in the thurston era now

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

word*

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I completely agree. You aren't the GM, Tony. STFD and STFU.

Go talk down to reporters and some fans some more, asshat. You can get your short term gratification selling out the future of the franchise and get out of Dodge while the going’s good. We’ll have to deal with the long term consequences.

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Jul 23, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

How

does Thurston just have no ability to make contact. He looks like Helen Keller when he bats

by jxmetal1 on Jul 23, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

You never saw Helen Keller bat, she could have been good.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 23, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Relatively speaking. (that relationship being Joe Thurston)

by jxmetal1 on Jul 23, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have seen Helen Keller's twitter account though (thanks Azru (?) for pointing it out to me)

And it is hilarious

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Julio Lugo approves of the trade

“You know, the jackets are nicer with this organization. They will keep me warm. They also have BBQ flavored sunflower seeds, something I sorely needed to pass the time in Boston.”

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

don't forget that cooler with wheels

that might be what sold him. Also, the batboys make very good conversation in StL.

by TheBirds on Jul 23, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

glad to hear

lugnuts has his priorities stgraight

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 23, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we wind up trading half a decade of our best prospect

for two goddamn months of Holliday just because our manager is basically acting the equivalent of an eight-year-olds “BUT I WANT IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW”, then I want La Russa run out of town.

by craig3410 on Jul 23, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

If you could look into a crystal ball...

and see that Matt Holliday wins you the WS, you absolutely do it. But that’s impossible…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 23, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

and unlikely

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 23, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree 100%...

but he’s implying that you would pass on that oppurtunity because of Wallace’s potential. That’s absurd…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 23, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

if our system

can’t afford to give up our top prospect, than it isn’t as good as we have been lead to believe.

by Evilfrog on Jul 23, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The system can survive it, Tony

but the organization can’t hemorrhage cost controlled talent when it is already up against it financially.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

you quoted him almost verbatim

with the ‘if the farm system can’t…then it isn’t as good as we have been lead to believe it is’.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

we'll it's true

Building a team from within is a great strategy. But when you are in a position to make a run and can improve your chances with a trade you do it.

Trust that you have other players right behind those prospect to take their place.

by Evilfrog on Jul 23, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

wallace looks good but in no way is he a sure thing

by hittmeier on Jul 23, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

show me these "sure things" of which you speak.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Jul 23, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

there are none if we were trading like 3 top prospects but holliday for one prospect. ill admit a good one is worth it to me if managment thinks we have a chance of resigning

by hittmeier on Jul 23, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, then all you really said was wallace is a good player.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Jul 23, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was drafted 13 months ago. go back and check the

2008 draft and find out how many are in the majors. find out how many are even in AAA. very, very few prospects rise so quickly and don’t have substantial success – like All-Star type success – in the majors.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Jul 23, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

k

if he is that good why isent he up right now. we need SOMETHING

by hittmeier on Jul 23, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

frightening thought

but may not be far off the mark

i suspect mo may be playing As vs. jays
personally, i’d be more likely to give wallace for halladay than holliday

also, nfw on dunn!!

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 23, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

the only reason they are trading him is because they believe he can't play 3rd or LF

which is kind of smart if you calm down & think about it. by trading him now when he has probably his most value, they can get the most in return.

FOR RENT

by gdm426 on Jul 23, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

never say never

when talking about someone who can actually HIT

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 23, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree, but the Cards FO obviously does not

so i’d rather they get the most value for him instead of wasting his bat in the minors

FOR RENT

by gdm426 on Jul 23, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

From a Boras client?

No thanks, I don’t feel like letting ownership sign the deed for Busch Stadium over to him.

by craig3410 on Jul 23, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

signing

him now would not break the bank because of his year so far

by hittmeier on Jul 23, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a Boras client.

They never sign extensions, and the very few times it’s happens, it’s happened because the player went over Boras’s head to resign.

by craig3410 on Jul 23, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

again, i agree

holliday for walrus is a bad move, especially considering how much Billy wants him. i’m just saying they should get the best deal they can since they don’t think he can play a defensive position.

FOR RENT

by gdm426 on Jul 23, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

if they truly got a good deal it isn't a bad idea to move Wallace

I think that was half the idea in drafting him, I also agree that Holliday is not the droid I’m looking for.

by TheBirds on Jul 23, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Walt used to buy me nice things"

“sigh”

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 23, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

No!

You’re not my real dad GM!!

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

man...

I thought the game started at 7… I just read through all 5000 post in today’s main post.

by Evilfrog on Jul 23, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Calm down guys

Mo is not a complete moron. He is actually a pretty good GM. Trading Holliday for Wallace is so completely and obviously retarded that there is no way it will happen.

(Dear God I hope I’m right.)

Gregatron is not responsible for any of the crap he just wrote.

by Gregatron on Jul 23, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

And to retort,

I think Wallace can be crafted into a decent 3B, maybe not this year of course, but I only do that deal if we ship Ankiel out as well, and lock up Holliday.

But none of this is certain…

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

why would he resign?

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, re-sign.

damnit. i always do that.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something to keep in mind

I believe Jon Heyman is AT the Yankees game tonight (against the As) so his info may be coming straight from As management.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

DeRosa

Nobody ever told me he was such a looker!!!!!!!

Also, how many of you before this offseason could’ve predicted a Thurston-Schumaker-DeRosa double play……?

by leefyg on Jul 23, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

haha

nice observation

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

not at all

Look at Ankiel – he’s already homered!

by leefyg on Jul 23, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t like either of them.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 23, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

"you seam smart"

FTW

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. I didn’t want to go there.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 23, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

twice in one day!

someone shoot me, please

FOR RENT

by gdm426 on Jul 23, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was a baseball thing

like the seams on a baseball?

Just trying to help a VEB’er out

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 23, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes,,,,,yes,,,,that's exactly what i meant

seams on a baseball, VEB, Cards game, it’s all coming together now

FOR RENT

by gdm426 on Jul 23, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t like the looks of two baseball players and I am dubbed smart? Awesome.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 23, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am a man, and I know what a good looking guy looks like

I see one in the mirror every day!

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 23, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   5 recs

I’m reccing this.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 23, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice double play

imagine thinking that would be a double play combo for the cards this time last year

by kalmavet on Jul 23, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I know Mike Wallace

And Im sure we all do

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That makes zero sense.....

Our pitching has been fine, and while we don’t have any aces ready in the minors, we have several guys that could fill in the 3-5 spots.

What we have struggled with is hitting. And we don’t have any stud hitters coming up, other than Wallace. So if you move Wallace, at this point, you better get a bat back.

Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan

by SoonerfanTU on Jul 23, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this Wallace for Holliday talk may just be smoke signals

Trying to bait Ricciardi into lowering his demands for Halladay

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

or hanley!

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give Mo GM of the year if he pulls that off

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd personally build him a statue in front of Busch if he pulled it off

i’m not saying it’d be a good statue, but it’d be a statue nonetheless

FOR RENT

by gdm426 on Jul 23, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

a duel Mo and Coolio statue?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 23, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mo with the Coolio dreads

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which, IMO

Would be very smooth maneuvering by Mo

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

it worked once...

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wallace for Roy, I could stomach

Wallace for Matt, barf

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

How in the hell can the Nats be so damn bad

when half their team has a >.400 OBP. They need some serious pitching. I say we trade Thompson for Dunn. I would have said Willingham, but I doubt the Nats GM is THAT dumb.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 23, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

DoubleDubmaker

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

schu!

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

All your Balester belong to Skip

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

*All your Balester ARE belong to Skip

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn...

I thought there was only one out…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 23, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

it's ok al

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 23, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

Thats like saying 1000 > 1

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now we shall discuss

the merits of Ernie Broglio.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 23, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Josh Bard...more like Josh Tard.

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Jul 23, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

a graduate of

the yadda sprinters school

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 23, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't Josh Bard the catcher that Albert eliminated in SD last year?

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Is firejoethurston.com available?

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Jul 23, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

One thing I can't wrap my head around is the A's aquire Holliday for basically Houston Street

for the entire year, and somehow this equates to Brett Wallace for 2 months after a lackluster season to date by Holliday?

by TheBirds on Jul 23, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 23, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The A's will send Holliday to the Yankees for cash and a good prospect or two

The Cardinals will send Wallace and a few fringe guys to Toronto for Halladay.

Mo and Beane are just jockeying to get the Jays’ pricetag to fall and the Yanks’ package sweeter

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too

But it would be awesome and it would make me look smrt

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm going to hold him to this

btw, who do the tigers have that the A’s want?

FOR RENT

by gdm426 on Jul 23, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly what we need....rain

Can we just play 5 innings and call it (if we are winning)?

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

It's not a huge storm

Just one of the popup variety. It will probably be delayed, but they will finish the game, even if it’s at 2 AM

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last season

There was a rainout for the Cardinals trip to DC, then, a rain delay in the makeup game the next day.

I’m not sure what the numbers are for rain delays, but DC surely is second only to Miami.

by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 23, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Balester

new strategy is to just walk everyone this inning and hope for a rainout.

by Evilfrog on Jul 23, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

isn't

this already a makeup?

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

yes

for a game that we should be have been able to get in.

by Evilfrog on Jul 23, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're gonna lose Wainwright, too.

Horrible timing.

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Jul 23, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

so...

there goes his streak. 18 games of pitching 6+ innings.

by Evilfrog on Jul 23, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not if it gets rained out.

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Jul 23, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think it will

radar has DC covered; but not much behind it.

by Evilfrog on Jul 23, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

No we're not

TLR will throw Wainwright out there no matter what happens. He doesn’t throw that many warmup pitches.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jul 23, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, how many make-up games

have been rained out?

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Jul 23, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Make up game gets rained on?

Makes me never wanna go to Washington DC….ever.

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

After living in DC for nine years

I can tell you last year in June and July, it rained at least a little while nearly every single day, a quick thunderstorm which would arrive around 7-8 p.m. and last about an hour.

Now, creating this near-tropical environment in constant 90 degree days, what do you think that did to the population and size of water bug roaches bedeviling that area?

I do not miss DC, not one little bit.

by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 23, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woo

I love sponsoring rain delays…I still think it would be funny to see one sponsored by Pacman Jones.

by ducttape16 on Jul 23, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

rofl

the rain delay is sponsored

helitech rain delay

haha, holy shit

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Okay...

This whole jumping halfway up the page every time someone comments thing is annoying as crap. Has it always done this or am I just now noticing?

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 23, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it always jumps back to

the last comment you clicked on in the New Comments box.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Jul 23, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

it only sometimes does it to me

i think if you have a comment selected like using the ‘z’ or ‘c’ features, it will jump the that post when it refreches

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

been happening to me too. annoying

The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series

by Walking Underwear on Jul 23, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

shit. I haven't been able to get my C to work

in anything but IE lately, and i hate using IE

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 23, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smoke screens!

Smoke screens I tell ya! (crosses fingers)

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can the nationals just concede to us already?

There is no reason to drag out their inevitable loss any longer.

by TheBirds on Jul 23, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Who's song is that 'Wetter' song?

Slightly appropriate, mostly not.

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

fiancee is telling me

That I should stop messing with her while she is taking a shower and take the dog for a walk…

sigh…

I’ll be back.

by Evilfrog on Jul 23, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Ooh la la

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

why don't you just,,,

no, don’t say it gdm,,don’t you dare say it. just walk away. walk away

FOR RENT

by gdm426 on Jul 23, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was a loaded comment.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 23, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

obviously still loaded

he got no help from her to unload it.

by jxmetal1 on Jul 23, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeaaaaaah, thats da butt.

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can I buy you a fish sandwich?

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, what?

hahahahaha.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i ended up taking the dog for a walk.

which was a lot less fun that what I was trying to do to pass the rain delay. It’s like we are already married. :-)

by Evilfrog on Jul 23, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLB

is showing the top of the 9th inning of Rays@whitesox

by Evilfrog on Jul 23, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

First I'm seeing of this catch...

Nice timing with the defensive substitution of Wise for Podsednik, huh?

by goodymobb on Jul 23, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha.

ha. ha.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alternate programming:

WNBA on ESPN2…what? What’s wrong with the WNBA?

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 23, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

'the thick of it' on youtube

a great way to spend 26 minutes, as long as you don’t mind a lot of swearing

by peach concrete on Jul 23, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

For my money the best comedy of the decade – British OR American.

by peach concrete on Jul 23, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have you seen In The Loop yet?

Lots of laughs, even if there’s odd continuity.

by notmorganfreeman on Jul 23, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not yet.

It comes out in the US tomorrow, although it will probably take longer for it to make it to Tennessee.

I’ve only seen trailers and clips. It looks funny.

by peach concrete on Jul 23, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any word on when the game starts back up?

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe a few minutes after that

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Allen Craig just jacked a 2 run homer

fwiw

The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series

by Walking Underwear on Jul 23, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

decided to listen to the memphis game

khalil up to bat now

The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series

by Walking Underwear on Jul 23, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question

Did Glaus start tonight, or is he out again?

by santiagofish on Jul 23, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

scratch that wallace at 1b

The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series

by Walking Underwear on Jul 23, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

t geene at 3b

The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series

by Walking Underwear on Jul 23, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's like six this week. jeez. make room, guys.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Jul 23, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what really grinds my gears?

When the stupid backside of the hot dog bun splits open. God!

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 23, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Probably so...

But purely unintentional if that’s the case. It seriously irritates me when the thing falls apart…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 23, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

while you're putting the hot dog...

never mind.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wainwright

With the delay, TLR wouldn’t risk sending him back out afterward, would he?

by rdf8585 on Jul 23, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

it's still pouring in DC

i’m guessing he won’t go back out if they aren’t back playing in an hour

FOR RENT

by gdm426 on Jul 23, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey guys, wouldn't it be somethin' if we gave the A's TWO of our better players?!

And in return, we get 2 formerly great players who may or may not break down in a couple years?!

by vexedtechie on Jul 23, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Mulder?

He was good for a while wasn’t he?

by vexedtechie on Jul 23, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, no...lol

Tradin’ [name deleted] for Mulder…
Tradin’ Walrus for Holliday…

by vexedtechie on Jul 23, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, and daric barton.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

keeeeeekooooo callllleeeerrroooo.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well at least Daric Barton sucks...

It could have been a lot worse, even though it’s so bad already with just whatshisname…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 23, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't look now...

but the kid appears to be putting it together. If they get Wallace they’ll have a 1b/DH combo that’ll consistently post 300/400/450 for years to come. That’s not really good enough, but at least they’ll be cheap.

by guayzimi on Jul 23, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey y’all they have a cap dance on during the rain delay. Awesome.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 23, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

that one was much harder

than the ones at the stadium.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

but it was still under 2,

as always.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah we didn’t see the beginning and my brother still guessed right.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 23, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey, has anyone around here

used channelsurfing.net recently? where’d they put all the MLB and MiLB links?

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

good question

i wonder if the wrong person found out

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you know any other places

to watch MiLB games nefariously, prophet? i got MLB covered through an assortment of stuff.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah

i just know about channelsurfing because of you

milb.tv is only 30 bucks a month, but other than that, i got nada

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

err

30/yr

if you’re interested though, i would pay the 7/mo considering their season is about over

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay.
we'll see about that. i'm assuming that mlb.tv and milb.tv are separate bills?

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

unfortunately

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

that makes sense i guess,

but is rather annoying.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never knew video feed was available fro the AAA games

just bought the 1 month subscription. Those are some funky short billed caps they’re wearing

The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series

by Walking Underwear on Jul 23, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

watch it

it’s automatically recurring

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

really? thanks for the heads up

The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series

by Walking Underwear on Jul 23, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

i found that out when i tried to resubscribe once and found out i had been paying for a year already.

i watch my bank statements a little closer now

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Skip has a dog named Dempster after his first ML hit?

Does that mean he hits his dog?

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I laughed

Does Dempster know this, I wonder…

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 23, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Skip Schumaker named his dog after Ryan Dempster because he got his first hit off of him. I find this hilarious.

Now I’m going shopping.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 23, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

And Slider’s a word not a phrase, it should be disqualified as the phrase of the week.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 23, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cardinals Crew are making young Cards fans dumber

Stop having conversations with a Walking Mute Bird…

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does that

make DG a twit?

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Jul 23, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why does the History channel care so much about Gangs?

All they are doing is perpetuating the rap that gangs are cool and news-worthy. Thus making these dumbasses infamous. ….sigh.

/rant

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

They had a production meeting

and found out that they needed to get more urban…

by ducttape16 on Jul 23, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why does the history channel care so much about...

all the non-history related programming they air? They should really change the name…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 23, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha.

i like daily dish’s terms for joining.

don’t be mean

good terms.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Balestar not on the mound anymore, who is this guy?

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Clippard?

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty good reliever, it looks like.

linky

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Automatc Out #2 coming up

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Nevermind

Thurston swatted that for extra bases

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beg your pardon?

Stay Thursty. My friends!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Jul 23, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I might have to call him an automatic out more often.

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blame/Thank?

Really sketchy…

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

so, the automatic outs

have 2 of the three RBIs this game?

by Evilfrog on Jul 23, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Nationals = Twilight Zone

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy frackin' schniekies

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Jul 23, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

thursty?
  • the heck?

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

SB nation

auto-formatting fail.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

No...

if you want to live in a fantasy world… [grin]

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Jul 23, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

even Thurston looks good

Interesting.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 23, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

woooooo

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 23, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

...they're IBB'ing Brendan Ryan

I like the Nats.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 23, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

me too.

they’re kind of like that little kid you feel sorry for.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

so, they're running waino out there.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Did Al just say....

“Thurston is leading the team in Home runs also”…………………
/head explodes

by RiverRat on Jul 23, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't they know Wainwright can mash?

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

But Brendan Ryan is futile!!

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

phillies next.

ooof.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

that's like an

oof sandwich.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

mini buffalo ranch

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 23, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

We've got tonight

Who needs tomorrow
Let’s make it last
Let’s fiiiiind a wayyyy

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Jul 23, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yadi's not hustling, Al.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 23, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

yay riggleman.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, the bases-loaded walk!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Jul 23, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

good skip bb

The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series

by Walking Underwear on Jul 23, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Colby, shave the stache bud

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

he can erase it.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 23, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

a cat could

lick that off.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

did al just try to make it sound

like trading for a player who is signed for less time is better?

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Why

are you paying any attention to Al?

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Jul 23, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nick Johnson comes in to the song 'Heartless' by Kanye West?

Interesting….

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

recently went through a break-up?

i know someone who is good friends with nick. he played high school baseball with him.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has that song just in case his ex comes to the game?

Judging by the attendance, I doubt it…

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

leadoff single

It’s rarely worth the health risk to being a starter out after a long rain delay.

by rdf8585 on Jul 23, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

The real reason that we can't trade for Dunn:

If we do, the race between Nationals wins and Dunn’s HR total will become void. It’s one of my favorite things in baseball this year.

by mojowo11 on Jul 23, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

what's the count now?

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 23, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

26 wins for the Nats, 24 homers for Dunn

Dunn needs to pop a few in losses to catch up. I believe in you, Big Donkey!

by mojowo11 on Jul 23, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

No wait, I lied, the Nats have 28 wins now

Damnit, Dunn, start hitting some bombs against teams that aren’t the Cardinals!

by mojowo11 on Jul 23, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

sadly, way.

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly?

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jul 23, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

way!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Jul 23, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

coolio?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 23, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mars...

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Jul 23, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

the District of Columbia

Where Ankiel hits a homer and Thurston gets a double.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 23, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

on the

thereisanotherstormrightbehindthisoneandwestillhaveainningtogotogetinitintothebooks planet

by Evilfrog on Jul 23, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone have a place where this game can be gandered at online?

The act of bequeathing this information upon yours truly would result in great gratitude and a rec.

by mojowo11 on Jul 23, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

all my usual places

are coming up empty…which doesn’t usually happen.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

This is especially cruel considering the Extra Innings preview just ended today.

by mojowo11 on Jul 23, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you have tvants?

better question, do you like using tvants?

here’s the tvants link.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I've never had good luck with tvants

But I’ve got the program. I’ll give it a shot, I guess.

by mojowo11 on Jul 23, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, sorry.

it’s all i got right now. i’ll keep looking.

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, oops.

link

The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer

by ilrosso on Jul 23, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks adam dunn

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 23, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL Adam Dunn

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Slip and slide!

Gregatron is not responsible for any of the crap he just wrote.

by Gregatron on Jul 23, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Need to finish the inning

another rain delay is coming within 30 minutes

by ubeddie on Jul 23, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm...

HRanKKiel

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

cmon

he hasn’t reached Al levels yet… AnK still has a productive moment from time to time. You sir have crossed the line.

by ducttape16 on Jul 23, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the comment, it made me LOL

But its not what I was going for, I was trying to combine a Homerun and two K into Anks name.

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Hraboskiel or Hrabankiel

I'm the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy.

by The_teague on Jul 23, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

No,

that’s Ank’s line tonight: HR, K, K.

1 for 3, RBI, Run

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Jul 23, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

God, Yadi is the slowest man alive.

Do some plyometric training in the offseason, FFS.

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Jul 23, 2009 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

so uh,

is lugo the guy who was accused of hitting his wife in htown? and the stros cut him saying he’d never play another game. then it came out he didn’t hit his wife & he play for the drays?

FOR RENT

by gdm426 on Jul 23, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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