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Game 96 Open Thread

St. Louis Cardinals at Houston Astros, Jul 21, 2009 8:05 PM EDT


 

Wellemeyer Wandy
7-7, 5.56 9-6, 2.81

 

Wandy Rodriguez has one of the weirdest career paths in baseball; he's striking out batters more frequently now than he did as a 22 year-old in the Appalachian League, pitching to high schoolers. His K/9 is three higher now, at 30, than it was at 26, when he showed no particular propensity for the strikeout. His DIPS profile, as of right now, resembles a left-handed Adam Wainwright.

Here are Todd Wellemeyer's last four game scores: 27, 35, 61, 31. That comeback start involved a very simple game plan: throw fastballs until there are two strikes, then throw sliders. His inability to follow that up with another game's worth is one of the most frustrating parts of his year, which has involved mostly frustrating parts.

To paraphrase my favorite eighties teen movie: Todd, throw that way really fast. If something gets in your way, turn.

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I want to use the first post on this thread

to express how fucking excited I am that The Mars Volta is coming to The Pageant on September 8th.

Oh, and fuck Houston and their lame ass ballpark.

by dcfcblues on Jul 21, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

grumblegrumble

stupidballparkgrumblegrumble…

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 21, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

you are in for a treat

they are really good live. go see the melvins when they come into town as well

Cardinal fanatic since '82

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, i've wanted to see them live, but never have had a chance

I did get to see At The Drive In live a few times though, and those were always incredible shows.

by dcfcblues on Jul 21, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lineups...

Schumaker 2B
Stavinoha LF
Pujols 1B
Ludwick RF
DeRosa 3B
Rasmus CF
LaRue C
Wellemeyer P
Ryan SS

Bourn CF
Matsui 2B
Tejada SS
Lee LF
Blum 3B
Pence RF
Coste 1B
Quintero C
Rodriguez P

....my quick smells like french toast...

by mstreeter06 on Jul 21, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Berkman sidelined w/ strain

Available for pitch hitting apparently

....my quick smells like french toast...

by mstreeter06 on Jul 21, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, last night sucked.

But hey, it’s a meaningful game between the Cards and Astros in late July. I would not have expected this two months ago. I feel like I owe someone money for the privilege. Needless to say, I’ll take it.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 21, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

A glimmer of hope for The Colonel and Cardinal Nation...

Wellemeyer is 0-1 with a 1.42 ERA in three starts versus the Astros.

Unfortunately though, he’s a flyball pitcher in a park where pop flies to left turn into homers.

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes

But they are facing Joe Blanton. I’m not sure you know this, since he shut the cards down last time, but he’s terrible.

by cloistermaximus on Jul 21, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some pre-game facts...

Skip has the 5th best AVG (.305) and 6th best OBP (.362) of all Major-League 2B.

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Good news.

But I don’t think most of us are concerned about Skippy’s offense.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 21, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

P.U.J.O.L.S.

Powerful Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage

"If you believe in telekinesis, raise my hand."

by tigr on Jul 21, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm bored.

"If you believe in telekinesis, raise my hand."

by tigr on Jul 21, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flip Glaus and Shoe?

Why not flip Glaus and Shoe when Glaus comes back?

Shoe at 3B and Glaus at 2B? Glaus doesn’t have the arm strength to play 3B but could probably play 2B. Glaus is also an old Mi, from what I hear. Shoe has the arm (and maybe the glove) for 3B.

Thoughts?

by thepainguy on Jul 21, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

You still need a good arm to play 2B

From what I understand, he can’t even throw 60 feet. The would make him have to play very shallow and be unable to have much range.

by cloistermaximus on Jul 21, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Belliard

Belliard was a bigger guy and he compensated by playing deep, but I gather that wouldn’t work for Glaus.

Of course you just scared the crap out of me when it comes to Glaus in LF.

by thepainguy on Jul 21, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It might work

if he had four plus months to try (let alone Skip trying to learn third). Glaus in left is a big enough experiment for now.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glaus.

6’5", 240 lbs.

Round Ronnie…5’8", 214 lbs.

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glaus is way too big of a dude to play 2B.

He isn’t fleet of foot and wouldn’t be able to turn a DP. Think of how many plays Skip has been able to make at 2B because of his quickness and arm strength.

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

but just think of all the runners who would crap their pants

instead of trying to take out Glaus on a double play

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 21, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont know if glaus has the speed needed to cover the ground for a 2b

plus, that just means albert would have to field more ground balls. scary.

"If you believe in telekinesis, raise my hand."

by tigr on Jul 21, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would work in a video game

so why not!

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

160-2 season, here we come!

Heywood Jablome a surprise MVP…

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 21, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: out then safe

I was apprised at work today of the very bad call at home plate at the end of that Twins game last night. (I was told it was a blatantly missed call).
Sure enough I saw it when I got home on the blow out of proportion sports reports on TV. I confess when I saw it the first time, live speed, I thought the runner was out. Replay and slo-mo showed he was safe, and pretty clearly too if you were a Twinkie fan.
My point is I thought he was out the first time too… I feel bad for the ump.

by the Tewk on Jul 21, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

If you have to slow it down or watch a replay...

to see whether someone was out or safe, you have to cut the ump some slack.

If you can’t tell at normal speed, you have to expect them to miss a handful of 50/50 calls.

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

you do expect them to miss a few

but they are right there and are paid to make the right call.

by Evilfrog on Jul 21, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Ball Beat The Runner

…and that’s enough for most umps at all levels.

by thepainguy on Jul 21, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duncan was on 101.1 today

And he repeatedly denied that is still injuried.

by Evilfrog on Jul 21, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

he may not be injured

but he is definitely not in Major Leeague form

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 21, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Don't Think He's Injured

He’s just not a great hitter approach-wise and pitchers have figured him out.

I have seen clips from several years ago of Suppan toying with Duncan low and away and Duncan complying.

That also puts to rest the idea that Duncan is pressing.

by thepainguy on Jul 21, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

WRONG!!!

On the FSN pregame, Hal McRae was asked about Ank and Dunc. According to Hal, well, Duncan is “just pressing.”

So there’s that.

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hal couldn't teach how to hit out of a wet paper bag

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a pretty funny "interview" too.

You know how everyone kind of always agrees that the hitting coach doesn’t really “do” anything? Well, that much was evident during the interview.

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha yet tony claimed duncan was still not healthy

why can’t this organization properly handle and treat injuries?

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the same pregame I just pointed out above

They were talking about how TLR was “visibly” upset and really vocal/outspoken about how he’s so disappointed that “some Cardinal fans are being hard on Duncan” when he’s out there playing hurt.

So the team is really talking out of both sides of its mouth on this one.

And shit, Welley just gave up a HR. Goddamit!

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can't fix suck.

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Stav joins the mustache brigade

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

its a madatory callup decision.

"If you believe in telekinesis, raise my hand."

by tigr on Jul 21, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

When we come back from break...

Check out Mustafa behind the plate

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah.

He looks like the guy from Borat, plus the turban.

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, 1-2-3 top of the first

I’m out. I can’t watch Todd pitch. It will just make me angry.

by cloistermaximus on Jul 21, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

wise decision

add the fact that the cards can’t hit Lefties, and I should probably head out too

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the West Coast

we call it “beating traffic”.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 21, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is one of those games...

where you can’t trust the win expectancy chart. Sigh…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 21, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

thanks mike

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

That was one hell of a bunt!

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 21, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

nothing he does surprises me anymore

but yeah, should be Brendan

Cardinal fanatic since '82

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

Ryan swings at the first pitch 99.99% of the time.

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

A little...

But Skip had decent numbers vs. Wandy I think, and Boog was like 2 for his last 24 overall…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 21, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tony does like the .333 avg against Wandy

SSS be damned!

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 21, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

No he isn't!

He sucks! He’s terrible! He’s the worst person to ever propel a round object in the direction of someone carrying a club-shaped object!

by notmorganfreeman on Jul 21, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

shhhhh

you meant to say, “he sucks,” but I understand

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Wellemeyer and “in control” are usually two things that don’t go together.

by stl522 on Jul 21, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except..

..he is in control of all the ladies hearts.

/sarcasm

"If you believe in telekinesis, raise my hand."

by tigr on Jul 21, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Home plate umpire is giving

Douche Wandy a pretty generous inside corner so far…

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

YOU SUCK WANDY

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

DERO

HAS JUST GONE YARD!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

DERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

DeROSA!!!!

Holy crap, that was launched…

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Wrist looks okay

But I’m not a doctor.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jul 21, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I played one last night

so I am saying his wrist is fine

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 21, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW HE CRUSHED THAT

....my quick smells like french toast...

by mstreeter06 on Jul 21, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

a rosier outlook!

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 21, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

OH SHIT

i picked a hell of a time to turn on the game

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

HOLY CRAP!!

aren’t there rules against hitting a HR vs LH pitchers?

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

He's still new

Give him a break on these rules.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jul 21, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

great point.

i’ll consider this a warning then

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

No ball park would have held that one!

Yeah buddy!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

no doubt about that one

high fives all around

Cardinal fanatic since '82

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

That Sneaky Bastard!

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 21, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

fuck that park!

wait,,,,i did that wrong

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

That's how a man hits a HR.

None of this barely makes it into the Crawford Boxes bullshit

by stl522 on Jul 21, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

rec'd

great pic!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHA

rec’d. that is quality!!

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh Colby,,,,

that was right down the middle

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

It was probably outside corner

Given the angle of the camera. But still, it was clearly in there.

by mojowo11 on Jul 21, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

he couldn't find them with a compass & a map

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey man, hes a pirate

not a tourist

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

. . . To catch the hot dog guy.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Jul 21, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

LaRue

cant catch the heater

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

if i didn't need them so bad

i’d give my specs to the ump so he could see the low outside pitches

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 21, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

i wish

my fucking internet would work so i can watch this game

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

if your interwebs are broken, how are you here?

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

not broken

just utter fucking suck

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

thurstywebs

maybe even welleywebs

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's nothing

that i don’t expect

time warner is balls

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't have cable

just time warner internet

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

knock on wood, our experience with TW hasn't been too awful

early on it went out like once a month, but for the past couple years it’s been pretty consistent.

of course now that i’ve said that it will go out for a week

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

if youre watching on mlb.tv

adjust the quality down to the 3rd or 4th bar. its less choppy down there.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm in austin

it’s blacked out. watching channelsurfing.net.

which doesn’t require much bandwidth

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

disregard

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cmon Lash!

and as I typed that, base hit!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Colby doesn not get the benefit of the doubt at all

strike three is a ball to a star player

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

oops

i was looking at the wrong pitch…you’re right

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

that was pretty much “what the hell are you thinking not swinging at that pitch with two strikes kids”

by Evilfrog on Jul 21, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Old men with funds...large funds...

Remember, this park was once called Enron Field

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

you should see the Lexus Lounge

there is a solid crystal replica of MMP in the foyer. Its also the only establishment left in Houston that you are allowed to smoke inside. They figure, if these guys are willing to pay the money to enjoy the LL, they can smoke whatever they want.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've been accused of looking just like him

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch sir

very ouch.

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

tough but fair

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

pedophile

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahhhh right.

he was nagged in a child porn ring, right?

by hangingfromatree on Jul 21, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahah

rec’d

"If you believe in telekinesis, raise my hand."

by tigr on Jul 21, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

so

he’s up to at least some good?

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Note to self...

mutton chops + stache = bad look if trying to beat a pedophilia rap…

by ducttape16 on Jul 21, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't know where this thread is going,

but it’s nowhere good.

hey, look, baseball!

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Jul 21, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

GDM?

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

you were awesome in Deadwood

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 21, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, just the young version

i don’t see it though, but that’s what i’ve been told

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

a rising 94 mph fastball

duncan is going apeshit

Cardinal fanatic since '82

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Nasty change-up!

Hope he can use that one again.

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

WTF thats not a strike?

Welle dont need to work harder fool, now look, you have fucked him ump.

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I blame that HR on you ump

you squeezed him, he gave, and he gave big…

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why does Hunter Pence have such a punchable face?

I’m sure he’s a nice guy and he’s a good player and everything…but I just want to beat the shit out of him.

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

i wonder why...

"If you believe in telekinesis, raise my hand."

by tigr on Jul 21, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hammy is batting

oh crap

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

holy fucking shit

TWFS

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

as soon as Welle walks a guy the wheels fall off

his shoulders slump, it’s all so predictable at this point

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

giving back

what a guy, that welly

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

why am i even watching?

welle, huh welle?

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 21, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

for the behind hte plate turban action.

"If you believe in telekinesis, raise my hand."

by tigr on Jul 21, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quit throwing the slider!!!

The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Jul 21, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

every frigging time we get a lead

we give it right back

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

there goes the no-hitter and the shut out.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Jul 21, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

and maybe

the mlb per diem

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 21, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

they get per diem?

400k+ isn’t enough for a snadwich on the road?

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Their per diem

is almost as much as a normal AAA salary. It’s silly.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't worry guys

Mark DeRosa will save us all.

by mojowo11 on Jul 21, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

i love that we now have more than one guy that hits lefties

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

save us

mark de rosa wan …

wait

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, how is Hunter Pence an athlete

he runs with the worst posture I’ve ever seen…he runs like skulking werewolf

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too

I have been calling Pence “Hammy” since he came up. I would holler it out to him from the stands before games while they were stretching.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't see anything

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

put on your glasses.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

i refreshed the page & everything

nothing is there

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

dunno

its hammy from over the hedge, fyi

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

was that English?

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

for us southern folk,

yes.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ireditlikeboomhowser

andstilldontgitit.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

well

donno doesnt look right and “I dunno” is how it sounds in my head.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

"its hammy from over the hedge, fyi"

is what I was originally curious about.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats weird

not sure how thats happening.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe...

I honestly have no idea what that means.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

lets try it again

It is Hammy, from Over the Hedge. For your information.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Still no clue what that means. I give up.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok

I dont know what else to do. Other than say, Over the Hedge is a Disney/Pixar (?) movie that came out a few years back

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never heard of it

which explains my confusion greatly.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

dreamworks

my bad

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

God

you were in diapers then!

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

what do you mean were?

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

shut up dad

it’s time for a change btw…

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

call your mom

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

the whore.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats why she's his mom

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was 16!

the same age i was when the cardinals won the world series. cut me some slack there.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

what pisses me off is the team thinks Boggs would actually be worse than Welley

how stupid is that? they think Boggs will be worse than the worst pitcher in all of baseball!

holy fucking shit. TWFS

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

haha and they worry about how deep boggs goes into the game

as if Wellemeyer goes 7 strong EVER!! i hate it.

Duncan and Wellemeyer have no value whatsoever right now

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you

it makes no sense. mortensen wouldn’t be the worst pitcher in the league either. i dont get it, how they talk up the system and then openly carry hatred for it at the same time

by riotmute on Jul 21, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank HL

he did all the work to point out how bad Welley is & how stupid the Cards are for thinking no one in memphis is better than him.

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I don’t care what the front office or coaching staff says, any one of Boggs/Hawksworth/Mortensen would be better than continuing to run Wellemeyer out there every five games. They can’t be worse than one of the worst pitchers in baseball. Let them get at chance to develop and adjust to the majors. Welley has no future here, and they might.

by stl522 on Jul 21, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

it makes me happy...

when I figure out an acronym I’d never seen before without asking.

by mtalken on Jul 21, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously

Welle needs to be a middle relief guy, where he can throw heat for one ininnings and that’s that

by the Tewk on Jul 21, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

This franklin is good.

So I’ve got that goin for me

by RiverRat on Jul 21, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Perhaps early inning franklins

should be dubbed welles until the team wises up.

by brackenthebox on Jul 21, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can get on board for this.......

but at what point do they become franklin’s again…..I really don’t wanna mess with the GOB’s on this.

by RiverRat on Jul 21, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

hawk petition

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

i love that commercial

"If you believe in telekinesis, raise my hand."

by tigr on Jul 21, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too

so very much.

"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.

by TNTinCO on Jul 21, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is bitter sweet

with each run, I’m sad we are losing.
with each run, I’m glad Todd is punching his ticket off the island.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 21, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

i have bad news. his ticket has about 15 punches left.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Jul 21, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

No it doesn't

he was told 2 starts to prove he stays, otherwise they are looking for someone else.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 21, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

i don’t remember that. I’m not saying you’re wrong. Hell, i hope they did say that and stick to it

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Jul 21, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was in the PD today

linky linky it’s towards the bottom of the article

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

it doesn't quote MO, but i guess it repeats what he said?

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I'm remebering JSL! tweeting

that Wellemeyer has 2-3 starts to get it going or else they will look outside organization to replace him.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 21, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont understand why we need to look outside the org

to find a #5 starter. As its been discussed, ad nauseum, that we have guys in the minors that may be able to be at least league average enough to fill that roll.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

really? was that published or do you have a source on the inside?

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Jul 21, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya know, i'd love to agree w/ that

but I’m not convinced he’s punching his ticket off the island. He should be but he should’ve proven that at least a month ago

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

It just has to happen, right?

The sad part is they will probably replace him in the rotation with Thompson

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 21, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thinly veile Big Head Todd mention?

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

someone's getting their fiber

i wish i lived near a JITB

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

i fucking hate the astros

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

mine is the opposite of that

well, cubs astros tied

Cardinal fanatic since '82

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i must admit

the brewers are capable of climbing to the top of my list. their newfound douchery has them seriously contending for the top spot

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I used to not hate them, but I like their stadium a lot and I usually don’t mind the underdog

Cardinal fanatic since '82

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

their stadium is cool

but w/ Deputy D-bag and the fact that I’m used to them sucking….

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry

meant astros, then cubs brewers tied

Cardinal fanatic since '82

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cubs > 'Stros > Red Sox > Brewers > Royal Fans.

"If you believe in telekinesis, raise my hand."

by tigr on Jul 21, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

ditto

and their stadium makes it even easier to hate them

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dunno

i mean i hate the cubs and the brewers

but this is a different kind of hate

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just hate them because they are dumb

and they do their stupid late season surge all the time. plus they always play better than what they should.

Cardinal fanatic since '82

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I hate the Cubs because they are the Cubs.

I hate the Astros because I find in them no redeeming qualities. They suck. They are pathetic. They’re poorly run. I dislike most of their players. They compete despite being terrible.

It’d put them about equal. Just different hates.

by mojowo11 on Jul 21, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boog

Regressing on offense….quickly….

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Completely agree.

Douche-Wandy is getting all sides of the plate and the generous high call.

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

wtf?

that was the my awkward approach from aCF ever.

"If you believe in telekinesis, raise my hand."

by tigr on Jul 21, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

So glad Stavinoha is on this team...

playing 2 days in a row…

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Skip in LF

DeRo @ 2nd
Wallace @ 3rd

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm from the STL area

maybe I should play everytime the team rolls through

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

so what? i have family in st. louis. that doesn't mean i get to start the next home stand.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Jul 21, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

quit trying to be like me tom

lol

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you guys can talk them into that, gimme a ring.

Surely a platoon of tom s., the teague, and goodymobb could be at least on par with Dunkiel?

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way to go

Paul Blart.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

This made me LOL

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cmon Albert!

This game needs more runs for our side!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Pence has replaced Ausmus

in my Astro that annoys me the most list

The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Jul 21, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

i

don’t get the berkman hate

seems like an alright guy

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

he did well in the roid era without them

"If you believe in telekinesis, raise my hand."

by tigr on Jul 21, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

I didn’t think anyone could have ever topped Ausmus or Backe

by stl522 on Jul 21, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh god

you’re old pudge

not yadi

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

That's Humberto Quintero.

Pudge has some boo-boos, so he’s on the bench tonight.

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

well then

he can fuck right off with that faux pick off move. yadi hopes to his royalty check within 10 business days

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pudge is old

and took a beating yesterday. Which is why he isn’t starting this game.

by Evilfrog on Jul 21, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well guys and gals

If Albert would’ve only listened to Opera and taken that pitch the other way, we might’ve had something there. Hopefully the inside info memo gets to the team in time for us to fight our way back.

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Welley got a gift high call

hopefully he doenst try to keep pitching up to get that call.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

is it legal

to have a rag sticking out of your back pocket?

by the Tewk on Jul 21, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

you have to be prepared

when you wear white!

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure it isn't

just the pocket turned inside out.

by Evilfrog on Jul 21, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yadi

would have had him

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

there too

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

and again

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was a good throw

Bourn stole that off Welley. Huge jump.

by mojowo11 on Jul 21, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 21, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

plus it was offspeed pitch

by stl522 on Jul 21, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

offspeed pitch, nonetheless

but still, I think Yadi would have gunned him down.

remember, Thou Shall Not Steal On Yadda!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

to add

the throw looked like it bounced before getting to Ryan

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

it definitely did

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It did

But it didn’t short-hop him, and he was able to get the tag down quickly. It was even to the correct side of the bag. There’s nothing wrong with skipping one to second as long as you don’t short-hop the fielder at second (and the grass isn’t super-long).

by mojowo11 on Jul 21, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, it was close

and Boog did a pretty good job picking it. The ball bouncing and how close it was could have been the difference is what Im saying.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

yadi could throw out jesus at second

on a homerun

on his day off

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

youneverknow

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Attention FSMW:

Fix Jim Hayes’ microphone. That’s like the 3rd night in a row…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 21, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

htown sucks, what do you expect?

i doubt the cat carries his own mic with him

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's being really dumb about this

no wonder people think Dunk is only on the team because of his last name

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

The way we treat Chris Duncan?

I dont remember throwing apples at him….

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

His Numbers Suck Because His Approach Sucks

You don’t have to be a MLer to understand that.

I think Tony’s defensiveness is getting in the way of good judgment.

by thepainguy on Jul 21, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

he also admited that duncan wasn't fully healthy

so it’s OUR fault, tony, that YOU keep playing him when he’s not healthy? Great logic there, genius

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

Tough pitch to hit and Tejada rips it up the middle.

I blame this half on Welley and half on Ankiel.

by mojowo11 on Jul 21, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

Mitch Boggs couldn’t do this.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Wellemeyer is not throwing bad pitches.

The one that Bourn lobbed into center was a well-placed changeup.

That pitch to Tejada was down and away.

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

That means his pitches suck now, too

not just his command.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

make it stop MO

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, about 5-1 Welle

Luckily, it didnt go out…

Someone call Mitchell Boggs please, tell him he’s wanted in St. Louis.

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

My friend texted me from the game last night

He said even the Astros fans that he knows down there (he’s living in Houston this summer) hate the place.

by mojowo11 on Jul 21, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

looked like shoe top

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 21, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Can we please DFA Welley immediately after the game

just as the Nats gave Julian Tavarez the boot following their game the other day?

by stl522 on Jul 21, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

bad as it is

nats might be able to use a military man like the colonel

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 21, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doublewick

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

DoubleWick

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

thank you for the correction

seriously – it even looks like a bad softball game out there sometimes

by Expatcardfan on Jul 21, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

APS BP

yesterday he was hitting track, and pennet signs…amazing

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 21, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

hello

good to see the cardinals have life kind of. nice double by studwick.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Me too..

the results weren’t there that time, but a good AB.

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

He seems like a guy who can’t cover the outside part of the plate on any breaking stuff.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 21, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't say swing

His approach. The guy works an at-bat and doesn’t get caught swinging at fucking slop. Maybe I’m just too accustomed to Ankiel…

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jul 21, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

Derosa looks like a total pro compared to a lot of our hackers

Cardinal fanatic since '82

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

tie it up Colby tie it up

*clap Clap

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 21, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

clap clap clap

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

raz is up!

oh wait, the pitcher is lefthanded? damn.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

That was the first ball

I’ve seen him put to the right side.

by RiverRat on Jul 21, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

thanks...

i was too lazy to look it up but knew 330 would get it done in that joint.

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

315' to the wall.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jul 21, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's 2 outs...

Unless we see a wild pitch or infield single, it didn’t help much…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 21, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

what do you want

an out that advances ludwick two bases?

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was probably for DeRo's nonproductive out

coupled with pretty much how we very rarely have productive outs as a general rule.

If DeRo can advance Lud, Raz’s groundout plates one.

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm talking about moving a guy over to third with less than two outs...

And bringing a guy home from third with less than two outs. That’s just an out…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 21, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

but this is the cardinals

two productive outs?

and in the same inning?

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

it would be hilarious if the vets made Colby wear a fake stache

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

when did the astros

turn into human vacuums

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 21, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

no Dan, FuManChue is just an easy an out as Welley

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

the ol' HBP to get to the pitcher trick

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 21, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

LOLZ

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 21, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

good time for Dunk?

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

there is no good time for dunk.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pinch Hit!!!

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

fuck.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well crap....

Oh well, get Welle out of the way.

Bullshit that first pitch was a strike ump!

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Batting the pitcher 8th

is doing wonders isn’t it LaRussa?

'Stay Thursty My Friends' - Tony LaRussa

by The_teague on Jul 21, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I think I hate this team.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

hey, he ran hard to 1st. what more can we ask for?

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Mitch Boggs

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure seems like the pitcher batting 8th...

has bitten us in the ass a lot lately…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 21, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

i don't believe it

albert still doesn’t come up to bat with people on base

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

batting the pitcher 8th

doesn’t keep stav out of the 2nd spot

by brackenthebox on Jul 21, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn't, does it?

I mean sure, it gets Albert “up in the first inning,” which TLR loves, but when you have dudes who aren’t that great at getting on base stacked up in front of Albert, he ends up leading off a lot of innings after our 9, 1, and 2 have gone down.

And shit, another run.

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

not just lately

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 21, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

game over

wellemeyer’s going to give up three runs in the bottom of this inning now. you just watch.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

3 we're being conservative huh?

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 21, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

man on 2nd, no outs

or as the Cards call it, a guaranteed scoreless inning

by mattyp on Jul 21, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

that's because once ludwick is through the lineup

we’re screwed until boog comes up. the lineups 5-8 are almost guaranteed outs.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

DeRosa hits lefties

and has a HR already. LaRue has been on base both PAs this game.

by Evilfrog on Jul 21, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Odds on Tony taking out Welley after 2 batters

now that he blew his chance to pinch hit for him?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 21, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

no no no

even if he gets in trouble, he has veteran experience to get him through it.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice pitch Welley

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

So if you weren't gonna PH for Welley there

then basically you’re hoping he gives you another 2-3 innings, which is when that spot would be due up again. I would bet you 1000 internet dollars that Todd doesn’t make it that long.

I realize TLR could double-switch and junk, but that was a prime opportunity to use a PH in a big spot. We don’t have any good RH guys on the bench right now (other than Yadi), so when TLR does his dumb doubleswitch, he’ll be bringing in Ank, Dunc, or Thurston to face Wandy.

I really don’t get it.

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate you Todd Wellemeyer.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

i hate this team. this is pure bullshit. tony just can’t manage anymore.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Fastball Down But Flat

They seem to be sitting on that pitch. Is he tipping it?

by thepainguy on Jul 21, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe

or his pitches just suck. He needs to become a thrower again. At least he had a chance then.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't it a few starts ago

when everyone got all excited about a good Welley outing? Supposedly he’s scrapped most of his off speed pitches and just threw fastballs like 70-80% of the time (I don’t recall the #s).

So, what’s wrong with that approach?

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

His Fastball is Flat and His Slider Isn't Working

He’s not Jake Peavy (who has a “hit it if you can” fastball).

by thepainguy on Jul 21, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He did a couple of years ago.

He just had no idea where it was going.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep, this team only needs "fringe" help MO

everything is A OK

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate to be seen as a traitor...

…but betting against the Cards tonight is probably the easiest money I’ll make this month.

by notmorganfreeman on Jul 21, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

So what did you bet?

I mean, I get how you bet on baseball with lines, over/unders, right? Or did you just take a straight W/L bet?

If it was O/U, what was the line?

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Straight win-loss bet.

£25 on Astros @ 5/7 (don’t know Vegas odds).

by notmorganfreeman on Jul 21, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

congrats. Can’t believe that was even on the board ;-)

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

It helps betting at British exchange sites.

Layers generally don’t know too much about American sport, especially intricacies like the Cards inability to hit a lefty. Request any odds under 10/11 on a favourite win and it’ll probably get matched.

by notmorganfreeman on Jul 21, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

20 days

But he was never going to take all 20 days. Once he showed he could hit, he’d be back.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 21, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

True...

just wondering where that put the both of them.

by RiverRat on Jul 21, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup said rain is also the reason i'm watching this game

otherwise be out biking or something.

anyway, i was at the memphis game last night and Troy look pretty good at the plate. In LF, nothing challenged him really but he made the routine plays

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

or cd

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 21, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't get why he's on the team

but as I type this he makes a good play

Cardinal fanatic since '82

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

nice play but that still doesn’t make him our best option.

still, i’d rather be rid of Wellemeyer and Duncan first haha

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

gotta say I hope this is Welley’s last start. it’s gotten to the point where I just expect to lose when he starts, and it’s bad enough that we are going up against a lefty

Cardinal fanatic since '82

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

gettin some help there todd

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 21, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Flip It?

Is the LF flipping the ball to CF or SS actually something you want to use as a strategy and not just once in a while?

by thepainguy on Jul 21, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

You all need to calm down. Welley is doing well with his pitch count and has only given up 3 runs.

We have to score more than 1 run or 2 runs to when a game.

If he gives up a 4th run then yank him but until then the offense needs to get going.

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on Jul 21, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

whoops

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 21, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get me a faster computer/server and my comments will be in context.

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on Jul 21, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know damn

its like this is BCB board or something. If i want to read welly sucks i hate TLR i’ll just go over to the pd board. When did everyone lose it here?

by dugmartsch on Jul 21, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because we're all smart enough to see...

the lunacy in repeatedly giving opportunities to scrubs like Wellemeyer and Stavinoha. And that’s just tonight…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 21, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

We are spoiled. Not many teams have a good 1 through 4 set of starters. Most of them have maybe 1 through 3 if they are lucky and then 2 or 3 Wellemeyers.

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on Jul 21, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since Wellemeyer is one of the 5 worst

or the absolute worst pitchers in baseball when it comes to WHIP and FIP, I doubt very fucking much that there are too many teams with 2 of the 5 worst starters in baseball in their rotation.

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 21, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually

The Mets have two, and they both have winning records.

by dugmartsch on Jul 21, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes but they also have more than one piece of offense....

Generalizing here, but there are way too many regulars on this team with crap ops’, and even thogh it’s a crap stat, challenging Mendoza.

    These are the pitfalls of a franchise that prides itself on having “the most knowledgeable franchise”.

by RiverRat on Jul 21, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

welley was the only card who signed last night

even though the MIFs through a few balls to fans…wellwey at first taunted fans then as he walked down the line decided to sign…I was like bud you cant be that cocky when you stink…cause ti wasnt a playfull taunt he was Like oh you want this ball and said it several times and kept walking then decided to sign…

even my daughter who catches some of the ballplayers attention when she holds the ball out and says please had nothing on the power of Welley

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 21, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh, what game & team have you been watching the rest of us have not?

they suck vs lefty’s, and who’s pitching against them?

Welley sucks yet the FO refuses to do anything about it

the O sucks & the FO refuses to do anything else about it

there is so much dead weight on this team & the FO refuses to do anything about it

the manager calls out the fans because we are sick & tired of his shit. and the FO does nothing about it

this team has so many problems it’s not even funny. it’s only because the division sucks they are in first. and i guarantee you they won’t be in first for long unless some big changes happen.

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many whens do we have now?

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on Jul 21, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

nice catch Stav

that wasn’t easy

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

That sequence was classic Wellemeyer...

0-2 on the pitcher, and he lets him hang in and hang in until he nearly drives in a run. Quality stuff…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 21, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

this is the inconsistency that has plagued his whole career

and why he has been dfa’s by his previous employers

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 21, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

let's load the bases

for pujols

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Did the offense go comatose again?

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on Jul 21, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

wandy is a speedy worker

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

everyone knows its

windy

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 21, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Tony...

You forfeit any right to be “disappointed” in the offense, when you put Stav in the #2 spot

I know you’ve won a bazillion games and are thus beyond criticism by a meager mortal, but if you can’t figure out how putting a guy that doesn’t get on base right in front of your best hitter…ugh

by DiscoJer on Jul 21, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

or when you

bitch about the fans being hard on Duncan because “he’s hurt and he’s giving it his all” when Dunc insists he is not at all hurt.

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

and throw B. Ryan under the bus while doing so

that was pathetic on TLR’s part, not on the part of us fans.

not his finest season…

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I missed what he said about Ryan.

GODDAMMIT Welleymeyer.
(sorry)

What did he say?

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

and i quote

“Maybe it had something to do with the fact that Valverde [has a huge split],” La Russa said. "And did Ryan have a particularly good day? How can people ask? What’s the question there? A guy who could hit a two-run homer versus Brendan doing what? Looking futile again? Did anybody watch Brendan’s at-bats?

“Chris is a … whipping boy. I’m so tired of the unfairness with Chris Duncan, it makes me want to vomit. You can tell anybody … that he’s getting treated unfairly. It makes me want to vomit. That’s why I get upset as soon as he gets mentioned.”

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow...

just wow.

I am pretty sick of TLR and have been for a few years. When fans want the media to ask tough questions and hold his feet to the fire, TLR apologists will say “Why would he throw _ under the bus?”

Yet when it suits his agenda, he’s more than happy to throw a player (Ryan here) or an entire piece of the team under the bus.

That is just dumb. Please go away and take your tons and tons of wins (and losses) and head-scratching decisions with you.

Now, who’s gonna be the first to ask me if I’ve read “Three Nights in August?”

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah let's all remember this one for when someone tells us he's

“just defending his players.” Seems like he only defends certain players

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

He did have a point

Duncan NEVER looks futile up there

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 21, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Full quote, even worse:

“Maybe it had something to do with the fact that Valverde, [lefties are] hitting .300 versus .140 [for righties]. And did Ryan have a particularly good day? How can people ask? What’s the question there? A guy who could hit a two-run homer versus Brendan doing what? Looking futile again?

“Did anybody watch Brendan’s at-bats?

“Chris is a … whipping boy. I’m so tired of the unfairness with Chris Duncan, it makes me want to vomit. You can tell anybody … that he’s getting treated unfairly. It makes me want to vomit. That’s why I get upset as soon as he gets mentioned.

“They’ve got a great reputation in our town, but it’s not a perfect reputation.

“It’s a pretty clear difference [for Valverde between right- and left-handed hitters]. Plus Chris, even when he struggles, he’s one of our better pinch-hitters.

“This guy is treated unfairly. For fans that have the reputation that they have, that they deserve, they do have a couple quirks that are not fair. And he’s one of them.

“What’s so ridiculous is, if you watch Brendan, Brendan had no chance yesterday for some reason. So he’s going to do better in that at-bat? That’s ridiculous if you think about it. I think it’s ridiculous. And it has to do with the guy that pinch-hit. It’s really a black eye for some of our fans that are not objective about him for whatever reason. I’m not sure what it is. I can’t figure it out.”

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy fucking shit

TWFS

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

New fan post on it

I’m irate.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

"...are not objective about [Duncan] for whatever reason."

Get the fuck outta here, TLR. WE’re not objective in this particular circumstance. Riiiiiiiiight.

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup even worse

when i read it earlier i thought this might be the most asinine thing Tony’s ever said AND he’s killing his starting ss to defend duncan. brutally ignorant

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

or why he lets raz get hot only to move him around

??

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 21, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow...

that was right on time, huh?

Freakin’ Stav hacks at the first pitch he sees against a guy who’s absolutely dealing. Jesus, take a pitch and slow down his rhythm at least.

So. Frustrating.

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

weak

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Doctors should use video...

of the Cardinal offense to induce comas.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 21, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

My buddy does sleep research

I should send this to him, actually. Good idea.

Jesus LaRue, WTF was that?

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

why not bat the pitcher 7th and albert 2nd

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 21, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice lineup.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

anemic

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

your not old enough for beer

maybe some wine coolers

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I already have those.

I’m lacking 1 or more Frisco Melt(s).

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

yadi>>>>>>>>>>Larue

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 21, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy hell

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

get YADI in the Game NOW!!!

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 21, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

wat.

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

wellenmeyer=quasimodo

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

i wish there was a memphis game to watch

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

haha same here. i also wish it was not raining

this was a perfect game to avoid. in fact, on that note, i’m out. there’s gotta be something better to do than watch this.

at least we get Carp tomorrow

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can someone name one...

speedy, light-hitting, black outfielder that doesn’t own the Cardinals?

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 21, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Daryl Jones or Matt Holliday?

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on Jul 21, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

and light hitting?

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 21, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

and speedy?

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you . You have know idea how happy you just made me! I was hoping someone would catch that...

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on Jul 21, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

holliday is black, speedy and light-hitting

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

and that is the punch line.

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on Jul 21, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoops. I guess that would be rewarding good behavior. How about hang the referee?

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on Jul 21, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

So 4 out of 5 starters are good. We have holes at 3B and LF which we all know.

Derosa is a pimp and will play through the pain and fix the 3B problem. Maybe Glaus can fix LF? If not we need Holliday or Dunn.

Or we can just wait for the fix it fairy to make Duncan or Ankiel play better.

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on Jul 21, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I was not replying. And until we get a new thread I am done. It takes me 5 minutes to get a word in edgewise.

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on Jul 21, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or we can admit Wellemeyer fucking sucks...

and put Boggs in the rotation. It’s absurd.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 21, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat.

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

DeRosa's thinking

cleveland was better than this

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

you've clearly not watched

an indians game this year. they’re pitching is far worse than ours.

by hangingfromatree on Jul 21, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

not when wellenmeyer pitches

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

a rope a tree hand the referee?

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on Jul 21, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

perhaps you sympathize

but you will never truly know..uness you convert

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jul 21, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy hell

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Me > Todd Wellemeyer.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

This is a strange mix

The Astros are falling like flies as they beat our ass.

by mojowo11 on Jul 21, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

. . .

. . .

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

return of the anal fissure?

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

so let me get this straight

bourn bunted his way on after larue threw it into right field. then he thinks he can pick him off with no avail. and then welley decides to be cute and try and pick him off and throws it into foul territory. bourn to third on what should have been an out.

terrible, terrible, terrible baseball.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

the dude that shot that is the creepiest man alive

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

really??

he’s an ass

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

its not worth it if it isn't willfully given

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

shots fired

gdm…

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

tough but fair

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

No seriously though

It really is creepy. I felt creepy just watching it. I only made it about a minute in before I felt like I was an awful person.

by mojowo11 on Jul 21, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't talk about that video

i lose all function in my brain whenever that video is mentioned.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quality of woman, high

Quality of video, low

Seriously though, it’s a very creepy video.

by mojowo11 on Jul 21, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

i felt very creepy watching it. almost too creepy to continue.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

believe it or not, i have actually not watched it

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously, i haven't seen it

i know it’s hard to believe, but it’s the truth

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay

are you going to watch it?

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably not

it’s too big of an invasion of her privacy. it’s just wrong

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree

but it’s erin andrews.

i mean, what a terrible person.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hadn't even heard of it until this thread...

FYI- Lots of articles on google say that many searches will turn you on to things that will download viruses when you think all you’re getting is a creepy eye full of Erin Andrews.

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

"almost"

I like how you perceived the line and even thought about staying on this side of it before continuing.

Good work, sir.

by goodymobb on Jul 21, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

if welly is a good boxer

he’ll thow at the nknee here

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

he doesn't have the control to do that

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

aim for the strike zone

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

screw this.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

/ grabs crotch

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

5-1

Boggs. Now.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

shit

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Glad they didn't pinch hit for him.

Holy fucking shit. Tony.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

made him helpless on 2

then gives it up

if he doesn’t go all the way and hold them to 0, his era goes up yet again

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 21, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

that was an absolutely terrible pitch

i’m done with him

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Kinney? really?

TLR has officially given up on winning this game

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

ummm is there even a league avarage pitcher availible for trade?

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 21, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I know

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 21, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you dfa welle

there would actually be a couple teams that might pick him up

i would, and throw him right back into a relief pitcher. fireman thing, get one or 2 and quit before focusing becomes impossible

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 21, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

dear tony,

WHY DID YOU NOT NOT PINCH HIT IN THE FOURTH INNING??!?!?!?!?! WELLEMEYER PROCEEDED TO GET FOUR OUTS AND GIVE UP TWO RUNS AFTER THIS DECISION! DO YOU REALLY THINK THE EXTRA 1 1/3 INNINGS WOULD HAVE BEEN THAT TAXING ON A BULLPEN THAT HASN’T HAD TO THROW MORE THAN TWO INNINGS SINCE BEFORE THE ALL STAR BREAK!?!?! SHEESH.

Love,
stlcardinalsfang

//rant

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

From the Twitters, regarding Wellemeyers spot:

azruavatarRT: @JoeStrauss: Cardinals could do Halladay w’out dealing Rasmus. “The question is whether they’re willing to do it.” Descalso a commodity.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

i'd trade descalso

they want wallace, though

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd trade him too

if i knew we’d get to the postseason

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

At his point I think I do it

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 21, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do too

best rotation in baseball for hopefully 1 & 1/3 years.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

As soon as we traded for him

Halladay, Carp, and Waino would all hit the DL.

by mojowo11 on Jul 21, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

will the take Skippy?

i’d rather hold on to descalso

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

as a centerpiece for halladay?

aaaaahahahahaha

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

no no no

instead of descalso. walrus is still the centerpiece isn’t he?

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

no trade walrus

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

therer's no way we can't get him unless he's involved

i want to keep him too, but there’s no way the jays will do the deal unless he’s part of it

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

works for me

no trade walrus

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i love wallace's bat as much as the next guy

but we still have no real inclination where he’ll stick defensively. To me, a move like this is why a team w/ Albert at 1b drafts pure hitter like Wallace

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's the exact reason we drafted him....

best bat in the draft…don’t know where we’re gonna play him, but you have to draft the best talent

or something to that effect IIRC

by RiverRat on Jul 21, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

going for holliday

is betting on the come

read your mutual fund guide, past performance is not an indicator of future performance

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 21, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holliday

or Halladay?

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

halladay

is betting on the front runner, who only plays every 5th day

i’d give pitching for him, but not an everyday guy. we have too few—check out our offense

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 21, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

well that settles it

i’m unabashedly rooting for Welle to shit the bed vs Phil (if he starts) just to show them how bad he is one last time.

I’d spring for Halladay if Colby isn’t involved. I have no trouble trading Descalso for a guy as good as Doc

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea

as much as a love descalso, i’m scared he is playing above his ability this season…like hoffpauir did in ’07

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

and last season, right?

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

hoffpauir did not have a very good year last year

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

descalso sure did

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

nvm

that was only once he got called up to AA

not awful before that, though when he was 20 or 21

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup i just think the odds of him being a truly special player are low

for good or ill, we are committed to skip at 2b for the foreseable future. we all know how good Doc is

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

what happened to them wanting kozma?

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

even better

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

they want at least 4 players...

… think wallace, kozma, descalso, and at least one of Jones/Mort/Boggs/Garcia.

at least, that’s what they’ll ask for.

by kindred on Jul 21, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

that

is fucking outrageous

no way they get half that much vaue

the cars top 4 prospects? no way

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

they don't have to trade him...

… at least not at the deadline. they’ll hold out for something massive.

by kindred on Jul 21, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

i don’t think he gets traded

if he does, it’s to the phillies

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

f them

not sure i’d do that if they threw in rios and cash

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 21, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is crazy and i want Halladay bad

but they can have 2 of the above and then a less prospect, not 4 of those listed!!

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

so was this the second game?

if MO is true to his word, is welly done?

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 21, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

it's definitely said 2nd game

but i still think they won’t have the balls to pull the plug. sure hope i’m wrong tho

by kalmavet on Jul 21, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

game off

too frustrating

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Jul 21, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

brew crew shut out the pirates

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

well done kinney

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

holy fucking shit.

A new 6 is a serious number rap!!!

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jul 21, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

he's not a maching

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on Jul 21, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

wandy

headed to HOF
if he could face the birds every time

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jul 21, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

overflow

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jul 21, 2009 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

What an awful, awful start to this road trip...

You almost feel optimistic about the next 2 days until you realize Carp and Wellemeyer are facing the staff ace of both the Astros and Nationals. Then you get to see the hottest team in baseball. This could get really, really, ugly…

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jul 21, 2009 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

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