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Second half contributors

With the season officially (if not mathematically) half over, this seems like a good time to ask about whether some players with big question marks over their heads are going to contribute in the second half. I'm curious what folks here think, so I thought I'd throw these names out and see what you expect from them.

Rather than ask everyone to predict specific stats for each player, I thought it would be interesting to ask a more general question - which of the following players will make a significant contribution to the Cards in the second half? The phrase "significant contribution" is obviously open to some interpretation; I figured I'd let everyone decide what they think it means, making this a broad optimistic/pessimistic question. It's sort of a gestalt view of what the VEB group expects from these players; I realize the yes/no format will be frustratingly vague to some, so please feel free to add some non-gestalty details or stat predictions too. For reference, I've included some (major league) numbers for each player for the past 2-3 seasons; the HR totals are based on 162 game averages, prorated for the 71 games left this year. One possible interpretation of "significant contribution" would be will they put up the numbers you expected of them back in the offseason, before various injuries, anxieties, surgeries, and incompetencies came to pass. But feel free to use your own interpretation (and feel free to explain it).

Rick Ankiel: He announced going into the ASB that he was still dealing with significant pain and stiffness from his collision with the outfield wall in early May. Presumably a few days off has helped a little, but a few days can only do so much. Even before the collision his slash lines were .247/.326/.395 with 2 HR, well below average for his brief outfield career so far.
Stats (2007-2008): .270/.334/.515, 15 HR

Mark DeRosa: The latest word is that he'll need surgery in the offseason to repair his wrist, but he hopes to play through the injury the rest of the season. FWIW, he had a pain-free batting practice today and personally hopes to play as early as Saturday.
Stats (2006-2008): .291/.368/.453, 7 HR

Chris Duncan: There's been considerable speculation here that he's still dealing with the effects of his neck surgery. As far as I know there haven't been any specific statements to that effect from the Cards medical staff, but there wouldn't necessarily be if he's just dealing with lingering weakness or stiffness. Or maybe he just hasn't humped a trophy lately. We all have needs.
Stats (2006-2008): .267/.355/.486, 12 HR

Troy Glaus: He's hitting - not well - at Palm Beach, but still can't throw. There was a rumor recently that he would need a second surgery (which would presumably sideline him for the year), but as far as I know there hasn't been anything definitive about that.
Stats (2006-2008): .261/.364/.491, 14 HR

Khalil Greene: Apparently playing with Springfield tonight. Rotowire says he could be back in St. Louis "by next weekend," but I doubt too many people would be willing to put money on that. Last time he came back he homered in three straight games, then he got beaned.
Stats (2006-2008): .240/.291/.421, 10 HR

Brett Wallace: My strong impression is that most of the relevant people in the organization are very much against bringing him up this year, but what do I know? It shouldn't be too surprising that a walrus is somewhat ungainly at third, but with those tusks he's a lot less likely to get Hee-Seop Choi'ed than Rolen.
Stats: Nothing to see here; move along.

Todd Wellemeyer: Since Joel Pineiro stole the magic beans Welley got from Duncan, he's gone back to pre-2007 Welley. Except now he's doing it for 4-5 innings at a time instead of 1-2 innings at a time.
Stats (2007-2008): 3.95 ERA, 1.32 WHIP, 6.4 K/9, 1.9 K/BB, 10 HR allowed

Trade: Finally, just for fun - will there be at least one person not currently in the organization who will make a significant contribution? It could be a pitcher, a hitter, a back-up for Fredbird... will we make any "impact" trade this summer?
Stats (2006-2008): Just for fun, imagine Halladay's stats here. Turns out they're really good.

I don't know of a convenient way to do a single poll incorporating all these guys, so if folks are interested I figured we could to a comma-delimited list of yes/no answers, like we do for preseason predictions, and if there are a decent number of responses I'll tabulate them next week. To start things off, for the following order:

Ankiel,DeRosa,Duncan,Glaus,Greene,Wallace,Wellemeyer,Trade

my answers are

no,yes,no,no,no,no,yes,no


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i see wellemeyer being a contributor along with ankiel, they dont have anywhere to go but up, Derosa will make an impact and help the team depth at lf and 3b soon. of course the wild card here is whether there is a trade, which i dont think will happen

by KyleW on Jul 17, 2009 11:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

first thing's first

DeRosa needs to get a freakin hit.

R.P.O.F.Y.M.

by BVHeck on Jul 20, 2009 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

and i think that he will

by KyleW on Jul 20, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

derosa the man

good team player in the clutch

take it easy

by angryandy on Jul 18, 2009 4:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just because De Rosa

had a pain free batting practice yesterday doesn’t convince me that he is ready to pick up his season. I’m waiting for about a week of plate appearances with about 30 couple at bats. Then you might have a clue.

by ridgesee on Jul 18, 2009 10:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The only possible contributor

I see on that list is DeRosa. Ankiel and Duncan will most likely continue their batting woes, Glaus may be in rehab for the rest of the season, Wallace most likely won’t be called up, and Welly is still gonna be the Welly of the 1st half.

Nelly > Dunc

by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 19, 2009 9:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i don't know if you mean

rehab in a more symbolic sense or what, but glaus can’t rehab for more than a couple more weeks barring another dl stint

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Freddy Sanchez anyone?

he’s rejected an extension. How much little would we have to offer the Bucs?

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by gocards62 on Jul 20, 2009 8:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

depends on if the pirates will

trade within the division. If that werent a factor i’d say we could get him very cheap

by KyleW on Jul 20, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

in order of probability of contribution going forward

derosa > ankiel > trade > wallace > wellemeyer > duncan > greene > glaus

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wallace is not going to be called up

He is the X-Mas present under the tree. Wait until April 2010 before opening.

by JWO on Jul 20, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

carry the team

Pujols, Colby, and Ludwick…big contributors down the stretch.

by PujolsDynasty on Jul 20, 2009 6:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

really going out on a limb?

by KyleW on Jul 20, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

Before I type a lengthy response, I’m taking the above as a sarcastic post, I hope?

by leefyg on Jul 21, 2009 4:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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